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The long awaited summit between Presidents Putin and Biden has finally taken place, but was it a success? Will it change anything? The answer to this question very much depends on one’s expectations. Let’s take a closer look beginning with the context.

Context of the summit

Just about the only thing which both US and Russian observers agree on is that the state of the Russian-US relations is about as bad as can be (in my personal opinion, it is even much worse than during the Cuban Missile Crisis or any other time in the Cold War). As I have mentioned many times, I believe that the AngloZionist Empire and Russia have been at war at least since 2013. Remember Obama with his “Russian economy in “in tatters”? That was the outcome Obama promised the people of the USA (Quick factcheck: the company Deloitte recently polled the CEOs of major Russian corporations and only 4% of them felt “pessimistic” about their financial perspectives as “negative”, 40% replied “same as before” and 56% replied “optimistic”). Of course, this was was not a conventional war, it was about 80% informational, 15% economic and only 5% kinetic. This, however, does not change the fact that this war was an existential war for both sides, one in which only one side could prevail while the other would, if not quite disappear, then at least totally lose its superpower status. This is a civilizational war, which pitted western and Russian civilizational (cultural, social and even religious) models against each other roughly along the following lines:

The US/Anglo-Zionist worldview: we are the “city upon a hill”, the beacon of light and hope for mankind. Our “manifest destiny” is to “expand the area of freedom” worldwide. We have the best armed forces in history, the strongest economy, the best everything. We are the “leaders of the free world” whose “responsibility” is to lead the world. This is not imperialism, this is the “duty” and “responsibility” placed upon us by history. Our values are universal values and must be universally accepted by all. Those refusing to join our model are authoritarian “rogue states”. Russia must accept that because she lost the Cold War and that western values have prevailed. Those who refuse to accept this are “revanchists” who want to overturn the outcome of the Cold War and rebuild the Soviet Union. The US had to expand NATO to the East to protect Europe from “Russian aggression”. Now “America” is back and, with our allies and friends, we will create a “rules based” international order which we will benevolently enforce to the immense gratitude of all of mankind.

Russian worldview:

Russia rejects any form of imperialism, for herself and for others. Russia wants a multilateral world order, based on international law and the full sovereignty of nations. Each nation should have the right to pursue its own cultural, economic, spiritual and civilizational model without being threatened, sanctioned, bombed, subverted or invaded. Russia rejects the so-called “western values” (turbocapitalism, imperialism, wokeness, multiculturalism, militant atheism, critical race theory, gender fluidity, etc.). The US is welcome to fly homo-flags on its embassies, but it has no business telling others how to live. In fact, the US has to accept two closely related realities: first, the US does not have the means to impose its ideology on the rest of the planet and, second, the rest of the planet sees the total hypocrisy of a country claiming to stand for values which itself gets to violate as much as it wants. Any comparisons are immediately dismissed with the words “but this is completely different!!!”.

Again, Russia agrees that the US is welcome to live in a post-truth, post-reality, delusion if it wants, but she also believes, and says so, that the West has no right to try to impose its pretend-values on others, especially when it constantly violates them all when convenient.

The core issue

The core belief underlying these very different worldview is extremely simple: the US sees itself as exceptional and, therefore, endowed with special rights and sees Russia as a much inferior interlocutor which needs to accept the US hegemony upon the world. In sharp contrast, Russia denies the USA any special status and demands that the US leaders accept Russia as an equal interlocutor before any meaningful dialog or cooperation could even be discussed.

I think that it would be fair to say that roughly between 2013 and 2020 both countries exerted immense efforts in a kind of a massive arms wrestling match to show that it, and not the other guy, would prevail.

For a very short while, Trump tried to get some kind of dialog going, but he was quickly and completely neutered by the Neocons and the messianic imperialists in his own camp (I think of Pompeo for example) and his efforts, however sincere, yielded absolutely nothing: Trump was not able to put an end to the war started by Obama.

Then came Biden and, at first, things looked hopeless. Seeing the massive failure of the first US-China meeting in Alaska, one could have been excused to expect a similar, or even worse, outcome from any meetings between Biden and Putin. Many (on both sides) believed that such a meeting was pointless at best since the US had painted itself into a zero-sum corner in which anything short of an exchange of insults would be seen by the US media (and the public opinion it shapes) as a “defeat”, “surrender” and possibly even “treason” by Biden. That is definitely the message conveyed by much of the US media, including Fox.

I want to express my total disgust with US Republicans who, for four years, were literally hounded by the US media for Trump’s alleged “caving in” to Putin or even for being a “Manchurian candidate” put in power by “Putin”. Now the Republicans are using the exact same language accusing Biden of “weakness” and for “caving in” to Putin. Truly, the Dems and the GOP are like Coke and Pepsi: different labels, same product. Worse, both the Dems and the GOP place their petty interests above the well-being of the United States and its people. I consider both parties traitors to the US and its people.

What actually happened

In spite of all the nay-sayers (on both sides!), Putin and Biden did meet. True, the meeting did not yield any spectacular results, but it would be wrong to conclude that nothing of importance happened.

First, the tone of the Biden administration towards Russia and Putin did change, remarkably so, especially after Biden’s infamous “uhu, he is a killer”. Some sanctions were lifted, the US basically gave up on trying to prevent North Stream 2 (NS2) from being completed, and a number of small steps were achieved, including:

  • An agreement to discuss cybersecurity on an expert level (something the Russians had been demanding for years, but which the USA rejected out of hand).
  • A joint declaration strategic stability (more about that below)
  • An agreement to discuss outstanding issues on an expert level
  • A return of both US and Russian ambassadors to their former positions
  • A discussion on a possible prisoner swap
  • A discussion on possible future arms control agreements

Also of interest are the points which were mentioned in passing, mostly by the US side, but which were clearly not focused on. These include:

  • The Ukraine and Belarus
  • Human Rights (aka “Navalyi” & Co.)
  • Russian alleged interference in western elections
  • Russian alleged covert operations against the US
  • The alleged Russian threat to the EU or in the Arctic
  • Russian ties to China and Iran

That is the official picture. But let’s be a little more wise about this: the US and Russian delegations (about 400 people each) included some very high ranking officials, including the Russian Chief of General Staff. Neither side would have bothered with such a massive undertaking only for the purpose of exchanging threats, ultimatums or insults. And such summits are never organized unless the parties have at least a reasonable prospect of some kind of understanding (this is why the return of the ambassadors was announced before the summit!).

So what really happened here?

To answer that question, we first need to look at what did not happen.

First, it is quite clear that the language/tone of the Biden administration has dramatically changed. This was immediately noticed by the (mentally infantile) US media which attacked Biden in his press conference for not putting enough pressure on Putin. Oh sure, Biden did pay lip service to the usual russophobic nonsense the US media seems to be forever stuck on, but it is quite clear what the US legacy ziomedia did not get what it wanted: they wanted Biden to “unite the West behind the USA” and then “tell” Putin to “behave” and admit something – anything – about the Russian “wrongdoings”. Putin gave them absolutely and exactly nothing. If anything, we could say that he held up a mirror to Uncle Shmuel and that Uncle Shmuel had nothing to say to that.

Second, and for the first time in a very long while, the US did not engage in any threats or ultimatums. If anything, it was quite amazing to see Biden getting angry at an imbecile journo from CNN (I think) who asked Biden why he expected Putin to “change his behavior” when the latter admitted no wrongs. Later Biden apologized, but he was clearly frustrated with the level of imbecility of the US press media.

The US media truly showed its true face during both press conferences. With Putin, they asked stupid, leading questions, based on their own delusional assumptions, and Putin easily swatted down these questions by pointing out at undeniable and well-known facts. The Biden press conference was, as usual, completely sanitized with a prepared list of reporters and questions, and with no Russian journalists allowed (pluralism, free media or free speech anybody?!). The infantilized US public did not think much about this, but in the rest of the world – in Zone B if you wish – people immediately noticed the startling difference between the two leaders and between the two press conferences. It will be awfully hard for the US to speak of “freedom of speech” when its President cannot be trusted to talk to his counterpart alone (Bliken never left his side, just like Dick Cheney did for Bush Jr. or Don Regan did for Reagan in his latter years) and cannot take unscripted questions from the (supposedly) “free” media. The US media clearly wanted Biden to go to Geneva, and tell Putin “now you submit or else…” and only the completely ignorant and infantilized US public could actually take that nonsense seriously. When that did not happen, they turned on Biden and accused him of weakness for “making no threats”!

Third, and crucially, by NOT discussing silly issues but by focusing on the real, important, topics underlying the US-Russian relations, Biden de-facto admitted two things:

  1. The US policy towards Russia since 2013 has failed and
  2. Russia is an equal partner to the USA who cannot be bullied, threatened or attacked

So much for “talking to the Russians from a position of force” which ALL the western leaders mantrically promised us. In sharp contrast, the Kremlin did not have to make any threats: the recent military exercises, which truly freaked out NATO and the EU, made any posturing by Russia quite unnecessary.

I am not so naive as to believe that any of this is set in stone.

First, we know that US politicians typically meet with their Russian counterparts and say “A” only to later come back home, cave in to the war lobby, and then declare “non-A”. Trump did that, as did Kerry and many others. US diplomats are mostly ignorant political appointees and/or warmongering Neocons who simply are not intellectually equipped to deal with their Russian counterparts (James Baker was probably the last truly sophisticated US Secretary of State). Second, we all understand that Biden is really “Biden” (the man himself is just a front, real decisions are taken by the collective “Biden”), which means that while he and even Bliken can agree on something, but that by no means implies that they will stand by what they agreed on. Finally, is is objectively really hard to undo that which was done: eight years of self-defeating delusions about itself and the rest of the world have done immense damage to the United States and it would take something pretty close to a miracle to now reverse a course which at least two US administrations have so foolishly insisted on pursuing.

Yet, what Biden did and said was quite clearly very deliberate and prepared. This is not the case of a senile President losing his focus and just spewing (defeatist) nonsense. Therefore, we must conclude that there are also those in the current US (real) power configuration who decided that Biden must follow a new, different, course or, at the very least, change rhetoric. I don’t know who/what this segment of the US power configuration is, but I submit that something has happened which forced at least a part of the US ruling class to decide that Obama’s war on Russia had failed and that a different approach was needed. At least that is the optimistic view.

The pessimistic view would suggest that, just like a boxer who has thrown so many punches that he now needs to catch his breath, the leaders of the Empire just needed a short time break, to “catch their breath”, before resuming the endless cycle of petty attacks, threats and accusations against Russia.

Time will show which group is right. My money is on the pessimists (as usual).

What we can say now is this: the period 2013-2021 saw a huge decline in US power abroad and the explosion of an equally huge internal political and social crises which are still catastrophically hurting the United States (Obama and Trump were truly the weakest and worst Presidents in US history). In sharp contrast, the same 2013-2021 years saw a huge rise in Russian military, political, economic and social power. Denying this reality forever is simply not an option for the USA (even if the US media never reports about this). It appears that the Biden Administration decided to keep up the same infantile language as its predecessors for internal consumption, but decided that a change of attitude on the international front was urgently needed, if only in order to avoid taking on both Russia and China (and, possibly, Iran) at the same time. History also shows that even just talking to Russia from a presumed “position of strength” was useless at best and suicidal at worst. The history of western imperialism in China offers a more ambiguous image, but the current revival of Chinese power under Xi also suggests that the Chinese won’t cave in to their former colonial masters.

What about China?

If China was mentioned at all, it is not official. The Kremlin had already indicated in numerous statements that trying to turn China and Russia against each other was not a realistic option, so on the Russian side there were no expectations of anything changing on that issue. Besides, while China has a lot to offer Russia, the USA has literally absolutely nothing Russia would want or need. The same goes for Iran, albeit at a lesser degree. There are those in the US ruling class who believe that China is a much more dangerous enemy for the AngloZionist Empire than Russia and it is possible that these are the interests which pushed Biden into a more realistic stance. The truth is that anybody who knows anything about the Sino-Russian relationship (which the Chinese now officially call the “strategic comprehensive partnership of coordination for the new era”) understands that these two countries vitally need each other. Did the US diplomats really hope that they could sway Russia to the US side? Probably not. So, at most, what they needed was a short time break or, at least, some kind of temporary stabilization of the “Russian front”.

What about the Europeans?

The Europeans are stuck in some kind of political no man’s land: some want a confrontation at all cost (3B+PU), especially since the EU stopped funding them, while others are clearly fed-up (Germany, France, Italy, etc.) with the current situation. They all realize that something has just changed, but they appear unsure as to what, why and how. And how shall the EU now treat Biden? First, while hating Trump was seen as “politically correct” by the EU ruling classes, hating Biden is quite unthinkable. Second, while Biden did “consult” with the G7 and NATO, these “consultations” yielded no meaningful result. Unlike the summit with Putin, these “preparatory summits” were just nice PR, a feel-good, “rah-rah, we are all united” kind of symbolic event. Think of it as an imperial king visiting his colonies: fun but not very important. But meeting the leader of a “gas station masquerading as a country” required the presence of 400 or so top US officials and months of preparations. Finally, the fact that “Biden” had to yield to Germany on NS2 shows that the grip of Uncle Shmuel on Germany is weakening, “another writing on the wall” which “Biden” apparently read.

So who won?

At this point I don’t think that we can say that anybody won. In fact, the existential war opposing the AngloZionist Empire to Russia is not over. At most, this will be a temporary ceasefire allowing Uncle Shmuel to catch his breath. But I think that we can also fairly conclude that Obama’s war on Russia has failed and that the Biden Administration is more in touch with reality than Obama ever was. How long this new realism will last is anybody’s guess. I don’t think we should put much stock in the idea that now a new era of peace or collaboration has begun. But maybe, just maybe, the USA will stop playing what I call a “game of nuclear chicken” with a superpower which is at least a full decade ahead in military (and civilian!) nuclear technology and delivery vehicles and a superpower which is now working as a binomial with another nuclear superpower, China.

Conclusion: the US-Russian Joint Statement on Strategic Stability

This is the full text of the US-Russian Joint Statement on Strategic Stability I mentioned above: (emphasis added)

We, President of the United States of America Joseph R. Biden and President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin, note the United States and Russia have demonstrated that, even in periods of tension, they are able to make progress on our shared goals of ensuring predictability in the strategic sphere, reducing the risk of armed conflicts and the threat of nuclear war. The recent extension of the New START Treaty exemplifies our commitment to nuclear arms control. Today, we reaffirm the principle that a nuclear war cannot be won and must never be fought. Consistent with these goals, the United States and Russia will embark together on an integrated bilateral Strategic Stability Dialogue in the near future that will be deliberate and robust. Through this Dialogue, we seek to lay the groundwork for future arms control and risk reduction measures.

The language here is very important: it is the repudiation of a major US delusion which began with Ronald Regan’s “Star Wars” and which was shared by each following President: the notion that the US can win a nuclear war against Russia by technologically or economically defeating Russia. The website “Defense One” (which is hardly a “Russian disinformation outlet”) had this to say about this decades long illusion:

Biden can correct the mistakes of the past. The future of missile defense will be thoroughly studied as part of a broader nuclear posture/deterrence review that will be started in the few weeks. Mindful that less expensive offensive weapons can always be developed to overwhelm, sabotage, or destroy any conceivable defensive system, his administration can return to diplomacy, seek verifiable mutual reductions, prevent the development of new threats, and address rising concerns such as the weaponization of space and cyber threats. That would allow the transfer of funds from the weapons that don’t work to programs that will rebuild and add to America’s security.

If this is really what is happening (and we need to wait before coming to any hasty conclusions!) then this is good news. Good news for Russia which has nothing to gain from any “reloaded Cold War” with the West, good news for the Europeans which need to recover at least a modicum of agency, good news for the USA, which is bled dry and is quickly becoming a underdeveloped third world country, and good news for the entire planet which would be devastated by any nuclear war between any combination of superpowers. If this is really what happened.

For the time being, the “crazies in the basement” are still every bit as crazy as before (see here and here for a few good examples). So are the woke-freaks (see here and here). So is the homo-lobby (see here and here). They all hate Russia and Putin with a passion, and they ain’t going away anytime soon. Besides, it is not like “Biden” will do anything other than give them all a standing ovation, full support and millions of dollars to their cause: these “minorities” (more accurately: this coalition of minorities) are the ideological foundation for Biden’s entire presidency, they brought him to power and he cannot renounce them.

How long brainwashed doubleplusgoodthinking sheep will continue to “take a knee” against “systemic racism” is anybody’s guess, however.

On the external front, the US cannot give up its messianic ideology and claims of exceptionalism. This would be truly unthinkable for the vast majority of US Americans. This does not change the fact that, as I have written many times, the AngloZionist Empire and the current US political system are neither sustainable, nor reformable. Besides, empires are almost impossible to reform. That is why they usually end up collapsing. And when they do, they often try to lash out at those they blame for their own failures. This is exactly what has been going on since 2013 and this will not and, in fact, cannot change until the final – and inevitable – collapse.

There will be no friendship or even partnership between the USA and Russia for as long as the USA will continue to serve as the latest host for the parasitic AngloZionist Empire. Аs the spokesman for Putin, Peskov, just declaredSo far, there are no reasons to exclude the United States from the list of unfriendly countries“.

Finally, did Putin “win”?

I would answer both yes and no. Yes, he did win in the sense that his strategy of dealing with an Empire on the warpath against Russia has been proven extremely effective. All the nay-sayers (liberal or neo-Marxists) have been accusing Putin of caving in to pretty much everything everywhere, yet it is the USA which had to eat crow, drop all its preconditions and ask for a summit. None of the many propaganda attacks against Russia (MH17, Skipal, chem weapons, Belarus, the Karabakh war, Navalnyi, doping, sports and flags, the seizure of Russian diplomatic offices, the kidnapping of Russian citizens, economic and political sanctions, threats, sabre-rattling at the borders, etc. etc. etc.) have worked or even yielded any meaningful results. In that sense, yes, Putin did win. But that existential war is not over, not for the US, not for Russia and neither it is over for China, Iran and any other country wanting true sovereignty.

In that sense, what happened in Geneva is not the beginning of the end (primarily because that beginning of the end has already long taken place, even if it was never reported in Zone A), but it is definitely a chance to change some dynamics on the international scene. The infinite arrogance of the likes of Trump and Pompeo has been replaced by a much more cautious and realistic approach, at least in superpower relations. But Putin/Russia will only have truly won once the US accepts the reality that the Empire is dead and that the USA, like all ex-empires, must now become a “normal” country (like all former empires had to). Sounds easy, but this is almost infinitely hard when imperialism is what you were born, raised, educated and conditioned to live with and when you sincerely believe that your brand of imperialism is somehow benevolent, even altruistic. Russia/Putin will only have truly won once the last empire in history finally gives way to a civilized international world order. Until then, the struggle of Russia – and all the other members of the resistance against the Empire – will continue.

 
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  1. I consider both parties traitors to the US and its people.

    Agreed. The Parties are corrupt. Together with the people who corrupted them they have ruined the Country.

    • Replies: @TG
    , @Leo Den
    , @Realist
    , @frontier
  2. JasonT says:

    ” I don’t know who/what this segment of the US power configuration is, but I submit that something has happened which forced at least a part of the US ruling class to decide that Obama’s war on Russia had failed and that a different approach was needed. At least that is the optimistic view.”

    The US power configuration involves many transnational elements including and most importantly the international banker and the rest of the WEF and Davos crowd. It is this collectivity of elements that has placed into final motion an effort to take total control of the world. The leaders of Russia and China, on the other hand, while part of that elite, have been resisting. What has been happening over the last decade, in its pure essence, is a civil war among the elites. They see that the plebs have already been beaten so they are fighting among each other for the ultimate prize – because they have no fear at all that the plebs will rise up.

    The latest approach is simply a reflection that the western power that be see that they must change tactics with Russia and China because in a few years the Anglosphere will disappear almost entirely due to the genocide being implemented, thereby robbing the western powers that be of the cannon fodder they will need to destroy Russia and China in a kinetic war.

    • Replies: @Ross23
  3. I guess we can call this summit the end of the beginning.

    • Replies: @frontier
  4. I think Coke is way better than Pepsi. Pepsi is undrinkable.

  5. “Truly, the Dems and the GOP are like Coke and Pepsi: different labels, same product.” That’s literally true. Nowadays they’re both “woke” companies. But back in the 1970s, Nixon got the sugared water concession for Pepsi, while Carter got it for Coke.

    • Replies: @profnasty
    , @Anon
  6. Beckow says:

    The anti-missile defense doesn’t work. NS2 will go into service. Ukraine is broke and EU will not let them in. There are no small countries left that US could kick around. There will not be a color revolution in Russia (or China), not even in Belarus or Hongkong. Obama’s war has failed on all fronts.

    On the other hand, US would like to have access to Russia’s natural resources. The talk about China is a subtle attempt to tell Moscow: ‘let our corporations in, otherwise China will take it“. It is 7-8 years too late, that Nobel Peace Price winner was a real piece of work, he could do neither peace nor war.

    • Agree: Aedib
  7. anon[226] • Disclaimer says:

    I feel sorry for Putin for putting up with so much stupidity to get his very important point (global security) across…. it becomes clear that media is trying to set the stage for politics and not the politicians. media defines foreign relations.

  8. Hilarious. They discussed Iran’s non-existent nukes, but the Rothschild neocolony in Palestine’s actual nukes will never make it into the discussion agenda of representatives of 2 versions of the same thing: Ziocorporate globalism.

    Biden and Putin agreed to do business even if there’s war, they even met in Great Resetland’s beautiful Geneva so even analysts lacking analytical skills like the Saker could tell what’s going on if they weren’t serving partisan bullshit of the global kind.

    • Replies: @Kramer
    , @shylockcracy
  9. Kramer says:

    Anti-Imperialist Russia huh? Is this a new thing, or are you claiming that Russia has always been anti Imperialist?

    Isn’t Russia backing separatist groups in Ukraine? And wasn’t Crimea annexed militarily?

    Russian Anti-Imperialism feels a lot like Russian Imperialism, especially when advocated by a Russian Imperialist like the Saker.

    Putin wants to turn Russia into another USA, and as has been demonstrated, Russia’s neighbors are not safe from Putin’s ambition.

    And it’s very rich, the Saker living in the US, talking trash about it and writing propaganda for Russia.

    Go away Saker.

    • Disagree: Bugey libre, Emslander
    • LOL: GMC
    • Troll: annamaria
  10. Anon[306] • Disclaimer says:

    Unrelenting hostility of the empire and its vassals has been a real God blessing for Russia’s soul. So called cultural “soft power” from the West is quite effective in poisoning the soul of nations, including all kind of perversions, denial of God, senseless life of craving for instant gratification and showing off.
    Empire’s enmity has provided the antidote to that poison.
    What really matters is the culture, the belief in God, unbending will and the contempt for the enemy.
    Look at the Taliban and the Houthi, their weapons are basic, guns, Kalashnikovs, RPMs and IEDs, but they can stand their ground against by far more powerful armies and would rather succumb than surrender to an enemy that they despise from their guts.
    Integration with the West, which nevertheless many Russians yearn for, would result in the downfall of Russian Orthodox civilization. And all Putin’s wonder weapons would be absolutely useless to prevent the cultural conquest catastrophe.

  11. Biden is just sickening. He’s been a fraud his entire life and this is just nauseating.

    • Agree: Alfred Muscaria, TKK
    • Replies: @Emslander
    , @Realist
    , @TKK
  12. I wonder how the exceptional proteges of the empire will take the news of empire disappearing… many of them are delusional enough not to know that hand that feeds and protects them, and they may at first welcome the decline of the empire; but all the LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ crowd can have a privileged and sheltered existence only as long as the empire is able to feed them with its Exorbitant Privilege. This crowd will be the first one to face the consequences of their manic dances once the irreversible decline is recognized. Just like all those organic food fads disappear once a recession sets in, all these groups will disappear once the underlying prosperity evaporates…

  13. Is Putin a double? Amtrak Joe Biden called Vlad —Putin in one statement and then followed calling him Donald Trump??

  14. Miro23 says:

    All the nay-sayers (liberal or neo-Marxists) have been accusing Putin of caving in to pretty much everything everywhere, yet it is the USA which had to eat crow, drop all its preconditions and ask for a summit.

    On the part of the US, it may be more a change of tactics rather than any change in strategic aims.

    The strategic aim is still no doubt the subjugation of Russia, China and Iran to the NWO – with Russian under Yeltsin being the ideal situation. In other words the WEF/Davos hedge fund crowd want unrestricted access to the economies of Russia and China so that they can wholesale loot them the way they’re currently doing to the US.

    Since they’re excluded from both Russia and China – and can’t get their hooks into either (financial/political/social/education/media etc.) then they’re probably exploring the military options. Same as they brought Iraq and Libya back into line.

    Problem that Russia and China aren’t Iraq and Libya. They have nuclear weapons ( a lot of them in the case of Russia).

    So that seems to lead to the data of the SIPRI (Stockholm International Peace Research Institute) Yearbook 2021, with its international comparison of nuclear weaponry. As of January 2021 it gives the following figures:

    Deployed Warheads*

    United States 1800 Russia 1570 China 0

    Other Warheads**

    United States 3750 Russia 4805 China 350

    *‘Deployed warheads’ refers to warheads placed on missiles or located on bases with operational forces.

    **‘Other warheads’ refers to stored or reserve warheads and retired warheads awaiting dismantlement.

    The take away is that it would be suicidal for the US and Russia to get into a war – but that China (despite its best efforts) is still a long way behind on nuclear deterrence. Hence the possible conclusion that China could be “Iraqed” in a conventional war.

    This would remove the US’s main economic competitor and open up a treasure trove of new riches to loot. It would “only” require that the US defeat China with conventional weapons and that Russia keep out of it (Geneva summit friendship) – which it would have to do, at least on the nuclear front (Russia couldn’t survive a nuclear conflict with the US).

    I actually believe that the ZioGlob make these kind of calculations when their power is threatened.

    • Agree: Mustapha Mond
    • Replies: @paranoid goy
    , @Andrew Ho
  15. Ross23 says:
    @JasonT

    They have demonised the place and Putin so much it’s difficult to see how they can row back.

    The most they can do is create a media blackout on Russia and Putin while they concentrate on China.

    Not exactly comforting policy for the Russian side but I guess it buys them time.

    • Replies: @Bill
  16. Anonymous[833] • Disclaimer says:

    I must admit I was rather taken aback by the civility, even largess, displayed by both sides, especially the American side from whom I never expected such. Unless Putin was apprised of the planned theatrics ahead of time, he must be praised for his instantaneous adaptation to the unexpected felicitous persona put on by Biden. At first glance, and without knowing the full story, I was scratching my head in response to Putin’s effusive flattery of good old Joe. As the Saker so appropriately keeps in context, we shall see what the future holds. For now, everyone just take a deep breath.

    • Replies: @Bombercommand
  17. The difference between Biden and Putin are astronomical. Both know they have nukes that would annihilate each other, so what good is that? Even if Biden is a brain dead imbecile, his handlers know he should never try and provoke Armageddon for the sake of Global Homo or Black Lives Matter, it doesn’t work on a country that is 99% white and heterosexual.
    Only foolish incompetent white countries would attack their own citizens with policies that undermine their white majority. But then white nationalist are not in control of their countries.
    And we all know who calls the shots.

    • Replies: @Rahan
  18. Smith says:

    We won’t know lest 1 year in.

    The news about chinese spacenauts are more interesting, Science >>> politics.

  19. Herr K says:

    Who wins when “Biden and Putin speak to each other”: The World Economic Forum, and the powers behind it.

    • Agree: Old and Grumpy
  20. mijj says:

    .. waterburger, perhaps?

    • LOL: Bugey libre
  21. Schuetze says:

    “Russian worldview:

    Russia rejects any form of imperialism, for herself and for others.”

    lol. Russia IS an empire, and Saker IS an idiot. Plus, Putin has always been adamant that the break up of the USSR empire was “a tragedy”. I guess we should just be grateful that at least Saker didn’t blather on about Nazis and Ukro-Nazis.

  22. Ghali says:

    The Saker seems very confused. His last post was: that the “meeting” will Not take place. Wrong. And that Putin should decline the invitation. Wrong. In this post, The Saker is enjoying his vanilla smoothie.

    More importantly, the Saker writes: “James Baker was probably the last truly sophisticated US Secretary of State”. This is utter rubbish. James Baker was a racist and violent warmongering ignorant. In a meeting in Geneva in 1990 with the highly educated and intellectual former Iraqi Deputy Premier (and Foreign Minister) the late Dr Tariq Aziz, Baker aggressively threatened Dr Aziz and his family. Baker was as stupid and illiterate as the Bushes (father and son). Baker was bought and owned by the Jewish Lobby. He was also a professional liar and a war criminal with the blood of Iraqi children all over his hands. James Baker was a carbon copy of another U.S. thug, John Bolton.

    • Disagree: Rich
  23. The Saker does it again, he fundamentally can’t accept that Russia and China are imperial projects to try and make each of those countries ‘great again ‘

    And they’ll do so by all means fair and foul,well with a historical record like Russia,mostly foul,same for the communist in China

    Neither country is capable of doing anything in their last hundred years of history without killing hundreds of millions,but the saker thinks this is the stuff of civilisation,meh!!!!

    I’m truly sick and tired of hearing about how exceptional Russia is though,its all you ever get from this biased blogger called the saker,Russia is just a big vast largely empty wasteland,its citizens suffer high rates of depression,HIV, drug addiction, alcohol problem,they’re not really religious,they still think stalin was great,inequality is greater than America, its health services can’t cope with covid and Moscow will soon impose draconian immunisation laws,compulsory jabs to deal with the disaster, deaths are well over 400thousands,its economy isn’t doing well so don’t believe that link he’s given because thats just a reflection of the corruption of big businesses who all follow orders from Putin or the FSB,Russia is totally corrupted and getting worse,they can’t even run their oil industry without stealing billions and that theft is organised by the FSB! As for all this stuff about NS2 the EU has basically bound Gazprom into knots with its regulatory structures,plus EU has ambitious plans to totally decouple from oil and gas by 2050so basically no more revenue for Russia,or the end of its economy full stop unless they change,but they won’t and that’s reflected in their business confidence,you know extracting wealth from the current model,i think its called ‘ The Dutch Disease ‘ 😉

    The saker thinks like a small child,you know if we could all just get rid of America then the world would be a place of milk and honey,we could all sit under a big tent and sing Kum Ba Ah,yeah in your dreams,all of this nonsense by the saker comes via his comfortable home in …..America, go move to Russia Mr saker if you don’t like the west,at least then I’d have some respect for you,but perhaps he knows Russia is just kicking the can down the road,and its a long road to stagnation which is already happening,although Putin calls it stability,Putin doesn’t want a cold war because he knows it’ll destroy Russia,as they couldn’t win the last one,this one would split Russia apart for good,something i bet the Chinese wouldn’t mind as they’d gain back those East bits again,so basically China isn’t Russians best buddy,so when Putin is gone the Chinese will make their move on Russia,who by then will have done all they possibly can to destroy their economy

    My advice to Putin,give back Crimea and stop being an idiot,because Crimea really,really wasn’t worth it,give it back to the Tartars,its theirs and everyone in the world knows it,give it back Putin and then you can come back into the big and best tent with the west!

  24. (Obama and Trump were truly the weakest and worst Presidents in US history)

    Worst two US Presidents were Lincoln and Wilson.

    Weakest perhaps but Carter was a close also ran.

    Other than that nit-pick, an excellent piece. It smells about right.

  25. Anonymous[274] • Disclaimer says:

    Another overly lonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnggggggggggggg arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrticle.
    Please stop this trend, unz.com!

  26. Anon[185] • Disclaimer says:

    Good essay – my observation is most gov’ts recognize Washington is somehow failing or in decline. They also recognize that Washington has the dual nationals running things. The dual nationals have their own destabilizing agenda which throws in plenty of unknowns.

    here is how the breakdown of great powers looks:

    Japan – clings to Washington desperately because Tokyo can’t fathom any alternative
    England – entire leadership class suckled on the Atlantic Council. Remain a Poodle 4vr
    Germany,France,Italy,Spain – how do they stop being vassals w/o Washington realizing it ?
    Little Euros – Leadership mostly brainwashed by Anglo/Zios. vassals 4vr
    Turkey – Live in a rough neighborhood with no friends, siege mentality
    Iran – peace at all costs to develop economically
    India – trying to stay neutral as long as possible, don’t want to get bombed
    Brazil – Dual Nationals in power, will toe Washington’s line 4vr
    China – let Washington collapse on its own, while we create wealth
    Russia – let Washington collapse on its own, while we create wealth

    Since our media is so controled by the Dual Nationals. Its very difficult to hear any other voices. I reccoment going to the various great power English language official news. Illuminating to see.

  27. The Jews of New York will never stop plotting Russia’s destruction. If Putin is smart and not Jew-owned, he’d use the considerable money, arms and resources of the Russian state to aid and develop white separatism within the US.

    There are tens of millions of whites with alt right views and they’ve had about enough. They need to organization and leadership and the FSB could help build that, just like the CIA helped build the solidarity movement in Poland.

    Only a white secession from within can destroy the American emprie. When that happens, Moscow can easily retake Belarus and Ukraine. Kiev would walk back to Russia on its own accord mostl likley without an American sugar daddy to prop them up.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  28. yurivku says:

    Well, I even began to suspect that Biden wasn’t such a senile idiot and that some Democrats had regained consciousness.
    It’s a bit unexpected.

    • Replies: @Rogue
  29. Sarah says:

    I think it is time for the USA to accept to live in peace at home and to close one by one the 800 military bases (yes! 800!) it has all over the Earth, starting with the most distant ones.
    All these military (and the trillions of dollars) would be much more useful to the American people by living at home.

    • Agree: Fred777, showmethereal
  30. Robjil says:
    @Kramer

    The USA annexed Ukraine in 2014.

    Russia took back Crimea. It was only “given” to Ukraine in 1954 as a gift.

    The US planned to make Crimea an important base like Kosovo. Kosovo has the largest US base in Europe. Crimea probably would have been more important for the US.

    US ukraine follows all the dictates of its new ruler – US Zion. Watch the way it votes at the UN, just like its master – US Zion.

    • Replies: @Kramer
  31. @Old Brown Fool

    Good luck with your GMO, Pesticides, herbicides, food, good health! Big Pharma will provide you with delicious treatments like chemotherapy, etc….

    Maybe we could keep the baby while throwing the dirty water… Maybe.

    Just coming back from weeding manualy an organic garden…

    Take care

  32. Kramer says:
    @shylockcracy

    “..representatives of 2 versions of the same thing: Ziocorporate globalism.”

    I agree. And so does the Israeli media.

    https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4587086,00.html

    Close to one quarter of the 200 richest people in Russia are Jewish, according to a report by Russian banking website lanta.ru, which gives the 48 Jews on the list a combined net worth of $132.9 billion.

    Among the 48 Jews who made the list, 42 are Ashkenazi and together have a net worth of $122.3 billion; the average net worth of each Ashkenazi billionaire stands at $2.9 billion.

    The wealthiest Ashkenazi is Mikhail Fridman, who has a net worth is $17.6 billion and is Russa’s second richest man. The least wealthy Ashkenazi billionaire on the list was not named, and his net worth stands at $0.4 billion.

    Jewish Ashkenazis represent 21% of all the billionaires in Russia, even though they comprise only 0.11% of the population. The Ashkenazi billionaires include Viktor Vekselberg (net worth of $17.2 billion), Leonid Michelson (net worth of $15.6 billion), German Khan (net worth of $11.3 billion), Mikhail Prokhorov (net worth of $10.9 billion), and Roman Abramovich (net worth of $9.1 billion).

    Six Kavkazi Jews appear on the list, with a combined net worth of $10.6 billion, and an average individual net worth of $1.8 billion. The richest Kavkazi Jew has a net worth of $3.6 billion, and the least wealthy $0.5 billion.

    According to the Russian Bureau of Statistics, there are 762 Russian citizens classified as Kavkazi Jews and they represent 0.00035% percent of the population. Compared to the overall population, the Kavkazi Jews of Russia are the wealthiest ethnic group in the entire country.

    The net worth of the remaining people on the list stands at $165 billion. The list is comprised of 24 Ukrainians, 8 Tatars, 7 Armenians, 3 of local origin, 3 from Ingushetia, 2 Uzbeks, and a handful of other nationalities.

    The publication of the list erupted outrage in Russia and received criticism from news editors and human rights organizations who claimed that this is the first time that the list of the wealthiest Russians is composed of a majority of non-native citizens and points to the fact that most of the country’s wealth is in the hands of “foreigners”.

    • Thanks: Mustapha Mond
  33. The words “Biden Administration” are noxious and offensive, conferring legitimacy where none exists.

    Putin seems amused by this doddering old fool, and whatever the blueprint is for Mother Russia hasn’t changed one iota since the senile rest home escapee came and went.

  34. Kramer says:
    @Robjil

    What are you trying to say here? Many old empires have lost territory at some point. Do you mean to say they all have the ‘right’ to take back those territories?

    If India annexes Bangladesh, for example, through military force, would you say that is their right? And what if Turkey decides to take back Serbia?

    Russian annexation of the Crimea is simple expansionism and Imperialism. And what they are doing in Ukraine is horrendous. The majority in Donbass do not want to join Russia, so by what right does Russia support separatist groups there?

    Russia is no less a subject of Zion than the USA. And the Russian track record of savagery and blood lust is nothing short of the USA. And both Russia and the US are run by Imperialist regimes.

    P.S. How long can Putin stay in office before we can justifiably call his government a regime?

  35. John Hagan says: • Website

    Achille’s Heel: From the story of Achilles we progress to modern day examples mostly deriving from the US political system and the characters that inhabit such.

  36. Emslander says:
    @Just another serf

    Biden is just sickening. He’s been a fraud his entire life and this is just nauseating.

    This is the story of two brothers, whose father had died when they were boys:

    For most of their childhood and youth, the older brother dominated the younger brother and this was considered acceptable by their mother. “It’s natural,” she concluded, though older brother engaged in lots of bullying and injustice that was never corrected or stopped. Younger brother simply conformed to the situation, as he had no avenue of appeal.

    One day, younger brother, who had grown up battling unprotected against the forces of evil and had developed confidence and strength, while older brother bathed in the glow of his imagined omniscience, was subjected to a renewed spate of physical threats and verbal bullying.

    Younger brother had had enough and was confident that his approach to adulthood was just as good or even better than moral corruption. He stood up to older brother and began resisting physically. It appeared for a moment that younger brother was going to win this battle. Mommy saw the inevitable and, for the first time, stopped a fight.

    It didn’t matter. Older brother had got the message.

    That’s where Russian-US relations are at the present moment.

  37. MLK says:

    As Trump says, sometimes it’s just common sense.

    We’ve just been through the second presidential election/inauguration in which the American tradition of the “The peaceful transition of power” degraded further. Sober observers would have been forgiven for thinking it couldn’t have gotten worse then 2016/2017 but it did.

    Once Trump took the oath (and that was anything but certain as psychopath Brennan wanted to threaten/intimidate the Electoral College Electors to throw the election into the House), smart money, foreign and domestic, was on his presidency not striving long.

    Yet he did. That meant that every foreign power spent Trump’s (first) term between a rock and a hard place in terms of its public and behind the curtain interactions with the USG. I don’t know how it was their right to do so — we really should have discussed it — but the Obama gang arrogated to itself to abandon that whole “Politics stop at the water’s edge” thingie.

    In any event, suffice it to say, everyone was told to assume Trump would be gone and, until then they better not seriously and to a successful conclusion negotiate with him or the anti-Trump alignment would remember it once he was gone. This was publicly revealed and acknowledged at least in the case of Iran.

    Now, say what you will about Trump, from 2017 through the end of 2019, he had reclaimed the powers of the POTUS and was on track to be reelected in a landslide. I won’t get into 2020 and the monumental, in your face, election steal now. Just accept that the global anyone who is anybody global anti-Trump alignment was now willing to use virtually any means necessary to get rid of Trump.

    Besides all the planned, executed and failed malefactions to cause Trump to actually lose the election or at least win it by a close enough margin that he’d have to concede when they stole it, all manner of promises were made to foreign powers of the payoffs they would get for staying on team in operation Get Rid Of Trump.

    The above is the salient context in which to consider US foreign relations since “Biden” was installed. He is “Yeltsin” post “reelection 1996-99.

    I’ll end by emphasizing that internally consolidated sovereigns (e.g. Russia and China currently) do not care whether their consideration in the bargain is in furtherance of US national interest and that of its citizenry as Trump insisted it must be; or is hijacked by rent-seeking factions, foreign and domestic.

    • Agree: Peripatetic Itch
  38. @Kramer

    Absolutely true my friend,unfortunately Putin has pulled a blinder with his propaganda apparatus which the Saker is a part of,so is Escobar

    RT and Sputnik are basically syncretic propaganda tools to unite booth the extremes of left and right,the anti capitalist/ imperialist plus the ultra conservative pro sovereign anti intervention crowd from America,Escobar is a regular on RT who constantly pushes these memes of western decline and the rise of some weird alternatives created by Putin,ex KBG and current communists in China,what could possibly go wrong i ask myself 😱

    This propaganda machine has facilitated the creation of a Red/ Brown alliance who dont know how much they’re being played by Putin, or don’t care although the Kremlin does care about its own dissidents as we now have a desperate Kremlin outlawing everything to do with the historical record of how the Soviet did deals with Nazis,and at the same time Putin actively encourages these extremists as evidenced by how many find their way onto putins propaganda platforms,they even allow ultra right wing neo Nazis into Russia for para military training!

    Putin encourages idiot secessionist from Carolina or the SNP from Scotland plenty of air time on his kremlin propaganda channels to wip up the disintegration tendencies in the west yet jails the same kind of people in Russia

    The idiotic left think Putin is some sort of hero for what he’s done in Syria a big anti imperialist who stopped American ‘ hegemony ‘ ,but in reality Putin was only protecting his military bases there,in other words his imperial reach,which the saker and others brag about,same goes for Crimea

    China is,and always has been an imperial state/ system,now its just a communist one,no differences really,building a railway is just one way to tie yourself into Chinese communism,and once your government has jumped into bed with China they’ll be little freedom or debate,its not that China will close you down its you’re own government who kowtow and grovel to the Chinese not to cut them off from trade and investment,trapped and totally subordinated

    Thats not a future,its total subordination,its essentially imperial,and yet the saker and pepe escobar won’t accept this, they think this is some sort of valid alternative its not wake up folks you’re been played by a bunch of apologists for ruthless totalitarianism coming from countries which in the past killed millions of their own citizens this isn’t the stuff of some sort of fabulous new global civilisation its a new dark age,thank god i dont live in Russia or China

    • Disagree: Ukraine Tiger
    • Troll: Bro43rd
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @GomezAdddams
  39. Rich says:

    Putin saw exactly how weak and disoriented Biden is, so much so, that he complemented him after the meeting. Blinken looks, to me, like a little boy, in over his head thanks to family connections. NS2 is a done deal, the US has apparently given up on Ukraine and Crimea, and the US has an illegitimate regime, Putin knows he’s in the catbird seat. It was great when Putin mentioned the Jan 6 protestors held in prison, facing 20 years in prison for a non-violent act. Hilarious. They’ve destroyed our country, these used car salesmen we let run it. Fortunately, for Americans, the US is a big place with a lot of natural resources and a hard worker can make a living and find a place of relative security. As long as Biden, and the slut VP are in leadership positions, we’re going down on the international stage. Maybe that’s not a bad thing.

  40. @Miro23

    This would remove the US’s main economic competitor…

    That phrase sums up the underlying falacy upon which is built glorious edifices of political theory and economic prognostication.
    How on earth could China be an economic competitor to the very same people who have declared China to be the world’s factory, namely the Yankee Industrialists? The very idea that China is competing for business, is stupid, they are given all the business by the very people complaining about competition.
    Kramer above, posted some numbers on the demographics of Russian billionaires. Has anyone similar numbers for China? The sooner everybody agrees that capitalism serves the same objective as communism, the sooner we can stop taking sides in their manufactured passion play of violence and deprivation. And genocide!
    Protocol 7v5: “…In a word, to sum up our system of keeping the governments of the goyim in Europe in check, we shall show our strength to one of them by terrorist attempts, and to all, if we allow the possibility of a general rising against us, we shall respond with the guns of America or China or Japan.”
    Whomsoever holds sway over the American war machine, has lately been building a rather nasty one over in China. Possibly by using the knowledge they gained from manufacturing America’s weaponry on the cheap?

    • Agree: Kramer
  41. @alwayswrite

    Who are these “tartars”, dummy? Are you thinking of tartar sauce for fish&chips?

    And anyway, the tatars in Crimea had transplanted there after the proto-Bulgarian khaganate/kingdom in Ukraine, after the Khazar khaganate, and after Kievan Rus kingdom as well. So, you’re out of luck, turkish idiot (tautology, i know).

    • Replies: @alwayswrite
  42. @Kramer

    Crimea was not annexed militarily, I know, I was in Sevastopol at the time.

    • Replies: @Kramer
  43. TG says:
    @WorkingClass

    Agree. But it would perhaps be more concise to say that our elites have betrayed us, and no longer care about anything but their own short-term profits, the nation a a whole be damned.

  44. Z-man says:

    I want to express my total disgust with US Republicans who, for four years, were literally hounded by the US media for Trump’s alleged “caving in” to Putin or even for being a “Manchurian candidate” put in power by “Putin”. Now the Republicans are using the exact same language accusing Biden of “weakness” and for “caving in” to Putin. Truly, the Dems and the GOP are like Coke and Pepsi: different labels, same product. Worse, both the Dems and the GOP place their petty interests above the well-being of the United States and its people. I consider both parties traitors to the US and its people.

    True.
    As I commented on Giraldi’s latest column, it took Tucker Carlson 5 days to finally comment, only subtly, about irrational Russophobia in the GOP. He didn’t even mention the ‘summit’.
    As a wise older alumnus of my High School once mentioned to me at one of our reunions, ‘there’s no two party system, no real difference between Republicans and Democrats’. Yes, they are both owned by the same Tribe.

    • Replies: @Anon
  45. @Schuetze

    Russia is not an empire, it is a federation by name and content. Putin’s comment on the tragedy of the breakup of the USSR was regarding the economic misery afflicted by the western hegemony not because of a desire to return to the Soviet Union.

    • Agree: Notsofast
    • Replies: @alwayswrite
    , @Schuetze
  46. @Humbert Humbert

    I can’t keep up with the amount of nationalities I’m now supposed to be!

    Oh along with ‘ troll’ or CIA,MI5, etc etc etc it’s actually highly amusing watch people thrash about in their own little pool of bile and stupidity

    Anyways you need to go and edit Wikipedia because according to them you’re totally wrong,so off you go and do something useful if you’re so correct 😜

  47. Z-man says:

    For the time being, the “crazies in the basement” are still every bit as crazy as before (see here and here for a few good examples). So are the woke-freaks (see here and here). So is the homo-lobby (see here and here). They all hate Russia and Putin with a passion, and they ain’t going away anytime soon. Besides, it is not like “Biden” will do anything other than give them all a standing ovation, full support and millions of dollars to their cause: these “minorities” (more accurately: this coalition of minorities) are the ideological foundation for Biden’s entire presidency, they brought him to power and he cannot renounce them.

    As I’ve said many times the globohomo elite including all Jews hate Putin because he reestablished Christian Orthodoxy to the Russian Federation. When he first appeared on the scene they thought they were getting another soulless apparatchik that they could mold but they were wrong and it burns them.
    Blinkin, still a funny name and a soulless waste of life.

  48. Anon[536] • Disclaimer says:

    Per the article the Geneva Conference is a watershed or waste of time depending on your expectations ?

    Who writes this shit. This is like saying ” was the fight between the MMA World champion and a one legged 78 year old brain damaged paraplegic a watershed or waste of time?” The expectation was that Putin would chew up Bozo Joe and that is what happened. How in Christ name did 81M Americans elect this village idiot ?

    Geneva was as much a watershed or a waste of time as the massive bowel movement I had this morning. I wiped my ass and flushed the toilet, never gave it another thought and moved on with my day.

  49. HT says:

    The one “watershed” event that really matters but that has largely been forgotten was when the Western world turned South Africa and Rhodesia over to the black savages. That event was a foreshadowing of how Western civilization would destroy itself by turning their countries over to non-whites. It’s coming soon children. All we are doing now is playing out the game for what is inevitable.

  50. @Ukraine Tiger

    The only people that caused economic misery were the idiots who ran the Soviet Union

    They couldn’t manage the economy properly,but sure as hell created a vast empire of graft corruption and theft,so actually nothing to do with the west,it was totally self inflicted,unfortunately everyone in Russian and those who gulp down Putin kool aid now believe in this mythology about how the west plundered Russia

    Russia was a bent country then and still is now,it’ll always be so,that’s just the way they are in Russia,lets be honest if thats the system you’re born into why would you think it otherwise,it’d all be normal wouldn’t it,therfore easy to blame the ‘ evil’ west once things go belly up

    I don’t know who Russians will blame next time it goes pop, but it’ll probably be the end of Russia,and good riddance as far as I’m concerned

    • Troll: Notsofast
  51. G.I. Joe Biden with Blinken blinked at the edge of thermonuclear war as justified by Russia’s defensive right relative to the use of a ‘nuclear first strike” for defense of the nation, to which G.I. Joe Biden has been on various fronts pushing war against Russia.

    Now it needs to be understood that the Strategic Defense Initiative, SDI, aka “Star Wars” was an initiative to bring the then Soviet Union and the USA together through mutual and cooperative research and deployment of such higher level physics research capable of preventing the looming threat on both sides of a winnable nuclear war.

    It was Lyndon LaRouche who conceived of the SDI to which physics breakthroughs by Soviet scientists relative to plasma and laser research were recognized not as a threat but the opportunity to employ a “Science Driver” program into both economies of US and USSR which were in full collapse.

    It was Reagan who understood this and allowed LaRouche back channel exchanges with the Soviets. Basically SDI freaked out the Bush and Kissinger murder crowd who would seek to assassinate Reagan and then jail LaRouche.

    The present situation is the British Empire’s attempt to stop the end of the central bank hegemony via American System Economics as employed by Russia and China, to which again it was LaRouche who conceived of the New Silk Road, not as a China domination play, but as a means of productive corridor between east and west, where productive economy must overcome rentier economy of Wall Street and City of London axis.

    It was the “Bush” and the NWO neocons who would seek to derail this

  52. Kramer says:
    @Ukraine Tiger

    Perhaps you mean to say the Crimea was not annexed ‘violently’.

    But you cannot deny Moscow’s military presence in Crimea.

    It doesn’t even matter how it happened. The territory was annexed, as in “added to” Russia, in what can only be termed imperial expansionism.

  53. Leo Den says:
    @WorkingClass

    Without Russia, ASSAD would be long gone and IRAN would have been bombed to oblivion, and Greater Isra-h-e-l-l would have been fulfilled and ruling over the MidEast.

    Russophobia by Jewish-controlled politicians and in Jewish-controlled Western media is driven by JEWISH NEOCONS.

    http://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/2015/07/28/how-the-ashkenazi-jews-conquered-the-west/

    • Replies: @Kramer
  54. rohnnk says:

    No mention of Assange from the presstitutes? What are you afraid of Mr. Biden

  55. Anonymous[737] • Disclaimer says:
    @alwayswrite

    Where did this idiot come from and why does UNZ permit him to make a 100 post always in the same vein while denying others, makes you wonder just what the game is.

  56. @Kramer

    What has Crimea done for Putin?

    He got a bit of a post invasion bounce,but really all its done is get this silly man and his country more isolated and driven into the arms of the grateful Chinese who I’ve no doubt will fleece Russia some time in the future

    And yes all this activity is the signs of Russian predatory imperialism,so is China BRI thing,i really am at a loss why folks would think that’d be a good thing especially considering the past history of Russian/ Soviet imperialism

    Russia should stay well within its own borders and clean up the cess pit of graft and theft which occurs there instead of parading itself about as some sort of alternative,which it most certainly ain’t

    Russia is just a bunch of predatory oligarchs who all found themselves in the right place and time to plunder Russia,now along with Putin they want to bring the so called Russian world under one big tent,it’s imperialism good old fashioned imperialism folks,Putin is an evil little man who’s pushing Russia towards destruction,once he’s gone it’ll all unravel,and the predator Chinese imperialist will clean up in the East,i doubt if most Russians there will object as they can see how much more successful Chinese imperialism is to their own Putin threadbare version

    20 years, until the end of Russia,mark my words!

  57. Bill says:
    @Ross23

    They have demonised the place and Putin so much it’s difficult to see how they can row back.

    I’m old enough to remember when Al Qaeda were the bad guys.

  58. anonymous[139] • Disclaimer says:

    Possibly the American state has decided that China’s growing economy and financial strength are the greater challenge so they’ve embarked upon a ‘go south’ strategy, targeting them first. The idea may be to divide Russia from China by offering concessions to the Russians, inducing them to think their interests aren’t tied very tightly to China. The US can’t confront both at the same time so it’s a divide and conquer approach, attack them one by one singly. The US is just an economic empire at this point, no longer a cohesive country and certainly not a nation.

    • Agree: Realist, Antiwar7
    • Replies: @Moi
  59. Simple logic reveals that a Nation with a land mass almost twice the size of the USA ; with abundant undeveloped natural resources ; and a relatively small population { under 150million } of intelligent Traditional { mostly } Caucasians {meaning normal ; basically uncorrupted people } is an inviting prize and target for other Large Nations ruled by borderline Psychopaths ; with ignorant and confused populations. Forget the clever arguments about Geo Politics. Russia is a fat prize ; and an appealing target . Too bad the Fat prize has sharp teeth and strong jaws. God Bless Russia.

    • Agree: GMC, Ukraine Tiger
  60. The Afghan occupation is not voided yet. Amerikastan continues to illegally occupy Iraq and East Syria. Amerikastani troops are massed on Russia’s borders in the Balkans. Amerikastan continues to try to destroy Belarus. Amerikastan continues to arm the Ukranazi coup regime. How is this even a stepping back for Amerikastan? What did Putin get that he would not have by just staying away?

  61. profnasty says:
    @Jack Boniface

    Nixon-Carter. I really miss those guys. Both head and shoulders above what we have today.
    But Pepsi and Coke are the same. Corn sweetener….
    Or are they…?

  62. Realist says:
    @WorkingClass

    Agreed. The Parties are corrupt. Together with the people who corrupted them they have ruined the Country.

    The two-party system is a narrative pushed on the people of the U. S. by the elites to obfuscate the fact that there is only one party the Deep State, but they are ruining the country.

    • Replies: @profnasty
  63. @Kramer

    “..in what can only be termed imperial expansionism.”

    Can only be termed? I can think of plenty of other terms, for instance:

    Voluntary rejoining
    Union by popular demand
    Merging by plebiscite

    You may or may not agree with those terms, but your claiming that it can “only be termed” what you term it means you either are full of arrogance or have remarkably atrophied linguistic skills. Or both.

    • Replies: @Kramer
  64. @Bill

    I’m old enough to remember when Al Qaeda were the good guys before they were the bad guys.

    • Agree: Bill
  65. Realist says:
    @Just another serf

    Biden is just sickening. He’s been a fraud his entire life and this is just nauseating.

    Biden was born a goddamn idiot…now he is braindead.

  66. What a dumb article like always from Saker. Russia is in terminal demographic and economic decline and the country will likely not exist a few years from now. Saker says Russia doesn’t need anything from the US but like North Korea Russia doesn’t make anything. The country is a polluted de-industrialized waste land sparsely populated by drug addicts, aids patients, prostitutes and alcoholics. Russias economy is smaller than that of Rhode Island so if Russia doesn’t need anything from the US than the rest of the world needs Russia even less. In a few years and probably less the Chinese will take Siberia and the Far East and Ukraine will rightfully take everything west of the Ural’s as Russia is already in a very advanced state of total disintegration.

    Saker is just a pure shill and I’m glad to see from the comments here that he and Jewtin are fooling less and less people. The whole point of KGB parrots like Saker and Escobar is to fool Americans and Europeans into siding with the neo Bolshevik dystopia over their own countries. But why the heck would any self respecting American or Europeans want their country to be more like Russia which might be the worst country on earth for Whites? Most of America and Europe’s problem are because of KGB subversion in our own countries, wokeness, philosemitism, promotion of Christianity over our own native faiths like Nordic paganism, LGBTQ propaganda, all this was imported into the west by the KGB which is Putin’s old employer. If you don’t believe me just watch Yuri Bezmenov.

    The fight against international Jewry and the fight against Russia is one and the same thing. Once Russia is off the world stage the jews and Bolsheviks will be at a serious disadvantage because they will no longer have such a reliable and pliant golem. White Americans and Europeans are increasingly waking up so Russia is all the Jews really have left. Thankfully they will soon vanish into the dust bin of history and we all be better for it.

  67. haha says:
    @Schuetze

    There is more idiocy and delusion in your brief post than the Saker could ever put into his numerous, long articles. If Russia is an empire, as you claim, perhaps you can list the countries that it has invaded, occupied, bombed and regime-changed.

    • Agree: Ukraine Tiger
    • LOL: Schuetze
    • Replies: @Kramer
    , @Schuetze
  68. Kramer says:
    @Leo Den

    Without Russia, ASSAD would be long gone and IRAN would have been bombed to oblivion, and Greater Isra-h-e-l-l would have been fulfilled and ruling over the MidEast.

    Perhaps Assad would have fallen without Russia. But that does not mean Greater Israel would have been fulfilled.

    Lebanon, Iraq, Yemen, Afghanistan, and Gaza still stand, like Syria, but without Russia.

    Russia had absolutely no intention of helping Assad. He stood by and did nothing when everyone was saying Syria’s fall was imminent. Years later, Soleimani managed to bring Putin to Syria, and nobody really knows how.

  69. frontier says:
    @WorkingClass

    Together with the people who corrupted them they have ruined the Country.

    I don’t think we’ve seen the end of it, as Trump put it “We are not done yet”.

    This article is a good overview of the facts on the surface but the analysis isn’t there. It does make some good side points but commits a major mistake in taking everything written and “agreed upon” at face value. Especially the bold part of the Joint Statement on Strategic Stability – “Today, we reaffirm the principle that a nuclear war cannot be won and must never be fought”. If the Saker believes that, he understands nothing.

  70. @alwayswrite

    1776-2021—–245 years —in 5 years USA will be bugled —a trans Black Leftist will be President and USA will be aborbed by Israel. Hunter Biden will be the last VP.

  71. frontier says:
    @George Kovachev

    I guess we can call this summit the end of the beginning.

    Nah… it’s the exact opposite…

  72. Realist says:
    @alwayswrite

    What has Crimea done for Putin?

    Southern warm water sea port.

    • Agree: Ukraine Tiger
    • Replies: @alwayswrite
    , @yurivku
  73. @alwayswrite

    I now live in Seattle but will be forced to leave —Los Angeles –too much fecal matter on sidewalks and same with Oakland and San Fran. Spent some time in Baltimore and St Louis —both cities trashed by lazy blacks. Chicago–if South Chicago keeps expanding look out —–Milwaukee used to be OK when Lavern and Shirley were there but after George Floyd –city on edge. I am now considering Portland but the cops have quit so I think I will head back East and try Philly. This is what is termed the Pursuit of Happiness and the American values of Freedom and Democracy—got a card from Nancy Pelosi —she is planning to elope with Mike Pompeo after his divorce is finalized and merge both Parties —for the better.

  74. Kramer says:
    @haha

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1908_bombardment_of_the_Majlis

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_famine_of_1942%E2%80%931943

    And then there’s the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, and the failed Soviet attempt at annexing Gilan.

    “It has been suggested also that the change of policy on the Soviet side regarding pursuing global revolution (as advocated by Trotsky) versus establishing and protecting the Soviet Union was the main reason for them to withdraw support from the Gilan Republic. The second option got more support and therefore Soviets signed the Anglo-Soviet Trade Agreement with the British in London (1921) which required them to retreat from Northern Iran. Correspondence between Theodore Rothstein, the Soviet ambassador in Tehran, and Mirza Koochak Khan clearly supports this view.”

    The Soviets were arming separatist rebels in Gilan, but the Anglos made them stop. Sound familiar?

    Also worthy of note, the Soviet ambassador to Persia at the time was Theodore Rothstein, a Jew. The entire Soviet establishment was in the hands of the Jews, exactly like the US today. Why would anyone imagine that those Jews ever lost their power in Russia?

    Anyway, that’s all from the last century. In the century before that, examples of Russian Imperialist conquest and invasions abound, such as the Russian conquest of the Caucasus in the 1800s.

    • Agree: Schuetze
    • Replies: @Herald
  75. Rogue says:
    @Alphysicist

    Neither of them are any good, as they are racist, sexist and homophibic. And very possibly anti-semitic.

    I only drink Woka Cola.

  76. @Kramer

    Crimeans —-real people—had a referendum —Question was asked and they stated they wanted to be under Russia—-Kruschchev assigned Crimea to Ukraine when it was All one big country and Nikita was —Ukrainian.

    • Replies: @Kramer
  77. Anon[160] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack Boniface

    Pepsi is the imitator of Coke. Crest toothpaste is the imitator of Colgate.

  78. Robjil says:
    @Kramer

    Crimea was part of Russia. It was loaned in 1954 to USSR Ukraine as a friendship gift.

    The friendship ended in 2014 when the US took over Ukraine.

    So the gift went back home.

    The majority of Donbass wanted to join Russia. The US does not allow nations to choose what they want to do unless they join the US. Kosovo was OKed since it joined the US.

  79. Rogue says:
    @alwayswrite

    So wait, what exactly are you saying here?

    That you don’t exactly like Putin or Russia?

    Come on, spit it out – stop sitting on the fence!

  80. Realist says:
    @Anonymous

    Where did this idiot come from and why does UNZ permit him to make a 100 post always in the same vein while denying others, makes you wonder just what the game is.

    I agree alwayswrite is an idiot and also an asshole. I think Ron Unz tries to allow an open comments section, he does get a little pissed at some of the comments, but for the most part, he is hands-off…which is a good thing

  81. Rogue says:
    @yurivku

    I wouldn’t suspect Biden of not having senility if you’d seen the bumbling, fumbling speech he gave at the G7 summit, where he constantly referenced Libya, but meant to say Syria.

    Even his aides afterwards admitted as such.

    Apart from which, Joe looked like he was about to nod off.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @yurivku
  82. Saker

    As far as the Democratic Party goes…specifically the filthy cockroach Joe Biden Administration followed by the syphillitic whore Kamala Harris incurable twat disease Administration…the ideology of Exceptionalism is the very thin veneer that coats monumental greed and monumental sexual perversion. These creatures from Hell are very well aware of what they are:a meaningless void in the Universe that eats and defecates Human Souls into a very far away meaningless Void in the Universe. What best describes these creatures is the Judge in Coleman McCarthy’s Novel:Blood Meridian….

    The intentions of the filthy cockroach Joe Biden Administration are about as noble as the Judge in Coleman McCarthy’s novel Blood Meridian……..The only thing these horrific creatures are exceptional at in a very open way these days is monumental greed and monumental sexual perversion…..

    Vladimir Putin is close to Jesus and the Blessed Mother….

    The Biden-Harris Administration=feces infested with maggot eggs….

    • Replies: @anonymous
  83. @alwayswrite

    20 years, until the end of Russia,mark my words!

    Yawn. In 20 years be ready to join the ranks of those who predicted that kind of thing; Napoleon and Hitler among them.

  84. profnasty says:
    @Realist

    Or, as a wise man once said,
    Politics, sports, entertainment, just there to keep the sheep’s minds occupied as they’re being trucked to the slaughter house.

    • Agree: Malla
    • Thanks: Realist
  85. @Anonymous

    No mystery at all. A few months ago President Biden phoned President Putin, this was the opening communication leading to this summit. In this phone call President Biden announced he would issue a waiver of sanctions blocking the completion of Nord Stream 2(in defiance of Congress). President Biden fulfilled his promise and Nord Stream was completed before the summit opened. President Biden also proposed an extension of START as a bridge linking negotiations to a new treaty, to which President Putin readily agreed. Both these initiatives were superb as The United States gives up nothing, but gives Russia things she greatly desires.

    • Replies: @Mulegino1
  86. Kramer says:
    @GomezAdddams

    Imperial domination has many flavors. Some bitter, some sweet.

    The fact that the people voted, does not negate the fact that for Russia it amounted to territorial expansion of imperial nature, as a result of which Sevastopol now answers to Moscow.

    The Western media tries to make the people of the world believe that Western Imperialism through neoliberalism is a benign thing. In many countries they have succeeded in causing revolutions where “real people” voted to be aligned with them. Does that make it not-imperialism?

    • Replies: @Bro43rd
    , @haha
    , @Notsofast
  87. The US/Anglo-Zionist worldview: we are the “city upon a hill”

    Yes, and that is a problem. The city on the hill is The Catholic Church (acrd to the Bible) but Americans are members of the Church of politics and worship power.

  88. BRING THE TROOPS HOME NOW!!!!

    NO MORE CANON FODDER FOR ISRAEL!!!

    If you are sitting in an NFL Football Stadium this stadium screaming like a teenage girl:”WHAT A STUD TYRONE!!!!”…. than you are perfectly ok with sending these teenagers to death in the Middle East for hyper-ethnic Israel…..

    • Agree: Mulegino1
  89. Putin is the only real statesman on the world stage, the rest are gnomes, dwarfs and pedofiles.

  90. Kramer says:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    Imperial expansionism does not of itself have any connotations of wrongdoing, and as a term applies even to the most benign hypothetical ruler who unites the entire world through love, or Putin ‘reclaiming’ old territories through local referendum, or the Ayatollahs’ Axis of Resistance liberating Middle Eastern countries, or the Western media neo-liberal brainwashing of the people of the world, etc.

    Let’s say the entire world experienced this “Union by popular demand” with Russia. That is still imperial expansionism in my book.

  91. rgl says:

    Hey, they are talking. Not simply trading insults, but talking about substantives. W. Churchill said that “Jaw jaw is better than war war.” And I agree with him on this point.

    Like the Saker, I am not too optimistic when it comes to American sincerity, or for that matter, trustworthiness, however this could be the start of a bit of rationality. That can only be a good thing.

    Provided the US doesn’t fuck it up.

  92. @Kramer

    I’m not interested in graduate school seminar talk…..The US Empire is Global H0mo Pederasty Writ Large…..And it will risk-threaten thermonuclear mass murder to impose it on the rest of the human species….

  93. frontier says:
    @Kramer

    And what if Turkey decides to take back Serbia?

    If Serbia voted 90% in favor of it, that would be totally fine. Good luck with that though. Crimea, on the other hand, was fair game.

    I’ll tell you what, a number of countries would join Russia if only the Russians would agree to take them. The Russian communist elites deliberately destroyed the USSR in order to get into the rich club. They are looking at the woke madness and the destructive work done by Powell at the Fed and wonder what all that is about? Why are they ruining the American economy and way of life? 400 people of each side went to Geneva to clear this up but they got no good answers because the real answer will never be shared with the Russians. If there’s anything that defies imagination, it’s how easy it was to hook the US elites on this nonsense.

  94. Herald says:
    @Kramer

    Clearly you are talking about what Russia was and not what post USSR Russia is. Try harder.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  95. Joe Biden says Putin needs to change. The real truth is America is always saying others need to change in order to become it’s servants. Actually it’s so that all other countries need to change in order to become the servants of those that rule the US (the hidden powers).
    That seems to be the way it is . . . .

  96. SafeNow says:

    Metaphor alert. Russia’s defense minister is fluent in nine languages, including Mandarin and Japanese. Now, I presume that the Russian leaders are intelligent and rational. Their primary takeaway from the summit is a firsthand confirmation that Biden is disoriented and impetuous, and that, behold, the U.S. President is not in personal control of the Office. This situation magnifies the risk of nuclear war through confused miscalculation and systems-error. Therefore, Mr. Biden and the U.S. must be dealt with in patient, careful, ways, not unlike how you would treat a child with special problems and delusions. Fortunately, the Russians are well equipped to do this. I have played chess against hundreds of Russians, and they tend to favor what chess players call “quiet moves.” And, by the way, I usually lost those games.

    • Replies: @Ukraine Tiger
  97. @Kramer

    Russia did not “annex” Crimea. The people of Crimea decided to secede from the forced union with Ukraine as is their right and applied for membership of the Russian Federation.

    You really should stop spewing the neocon bullshit.

    • Replies: @Schuetze
  98. @Realist

    Why does he need a warm water sea port in Crimea?

    I thought surface ships were all so yesterday according to the armchair admirals who comment here,oh but i forgot Russian ships are unsinkable,yup forgot that 😉

    Anyways whats the point in having a base in the Black Sea when all you can do is sail around and around, in a time of war with NATO thats all you’re gonna do,seems a bit daft to me,oh but i again forgot,they’re gonna sail around and around and launch millions of hypersonic wiz bangs into NATO and totally destroy everything,yup,yeah thats clear what a master stoke of tactics by Putin

    But seriously Putin could have kept his silly naval base in Crimea but he couldn’t hide from Russians the better and more successful economically powerful EU block and the ability to improve the economy of Ukraine,nope, that was a threat far to great for Vlad,so basically he had no option but to send in the ‘ little green men’
    who apparently are very ‘ polite ‘ to try and spoil things,thats how childish and paranoid Putin is,some folks think this was some sort of strategic masterstroke,but it was actually the total opposite,a sign of fear,weakness and inability to compete economically

    Well i hope Putin enjoys his place in the sun,because its now like a big concrete albatross hanging around his neck,oh plus his navy in the Black sea would soon be reduced to the bottom,regardless of how many wizbangs they manage to fire first,which wouldn’t be that many!

    • Replies: @Realist
  99. Bro43rd says:
    @Kramer

    So if Russia color-revolutioned Crimea to install a Russia compliant government that would be peaches-n-cream, eh?
    Russia absorbed a former part of the ussr that also contained an extremely strategic Russian navel base. Seems like a geopolitical no brainer. Really the rest of the world has no dog in that fight, especially the US.

  100. Realist says:
    @alwayswrite

    You have an innate ability to write some of the stupidest, inane shit I have ever seen.

    • Replies: @alwayswrite
  101. Avery says:
    @Kramer

    { And what if Turkey decides to take back Serbia?}

    That would be interesting.
    How about “what if Turks went back to their ancestral lands in East and Central Asia (Uyguristan)”.

    And in fact Turks took 40% of EU member Cyprus, and are still occupying it after completely ethnically cleansing the native Cypriots/Greeks.
    Neither US, nor EU are doing anything about it.
    Turks are currently also occupying large parts of Syria. (with the connivance and approval of US, UK, France, Israel….)
    So let’s cut the BS.

    Crimea is next door to Russia. Crimea was ruled by various empires for centuries.
    The way Russia came to possess it about 200 years ago, was the Turks and Tatars had their slave trading base there, and were raiding Russian lands to abduct Slavic peoples. An estimated 2,000,000 Slavic slaves were grabbed from Russian/Slavic lands and sold by Turks & Tatars. Catherine the Great finally put a stop to Muslim terrorism.

    In 1954 Nikita Khrushchev, who despite being an ethnic Russia was _very_ fond of Ukraine/Ukrainians , simply transferred Crimea from Russia SSR to Ukraine SSR, without asking anyone in Crimea. While the USSR was intact, there was no issue. But after the NeoNazi coup in Kiev, and the massacres of ethnic Russians by the UkroNazis gangs (e.g. Odessa massacres), ethnic Russians of Ukraine appealed to re-join RF. That’s it.

    • Agree: Aedib
    • Thanks: Robjil
  102. @War for Blair Mountain

    Should read:NFL Football Stadium in the Fall…

    Next Point:

    A prolonged Mega drought in the Mega Drought in the American West and the America South will collapse the American Economy big time….Civilization Collapse in America….probability=1

    Should we welcome the destruction of Civilization in America?

  103. GMC says:
    @alwayswrite

    Crimea was not a Russian trophy , it was getting back what was rightfully Theirs, and the topping on the cake was the 95% vote to go back to Mother Russia. The only other country that has those kind of 90% voting records is Syria. The US vote and their buddies in Israel, is the laughing stock of the World, but it’s a Democratic country – Don’t Ya Know ! lol
    Russia was Doomed with the Western Wall street and CIA guys, that ran Yeltsin’s administration, so how can Putin be any worse? And China ? What are they going to do – steal all of Russia’s 4000 nukes , that are probably aimed at China too .
    In 20 years the whole Planet could be history – just like the Empire will be. Isolated people have a better chance at survival – ask any Alaskan/ Australian/Russian etc. that lived in the bush. Nope – you ain’t always write – no one is. Spacibo

    • Agree: Ultrafart the Brave
  104. Bill says:
    @alwayswrite

    The only people that caused economic misery were the idiots who ran the Soviet Union

    The USSR did not have a Russian premier until Khrushchev. Russians had virtually no power in the USSR prior to WWII. So, the design decisions were not made by Russians. In the immediate post-collapse period, the power of Russians again declined dramatically not to recover until after 2000.

    So, it’s the exact opposite of what you say.

    • Replies: @alwayswrite
  105. The Ogs says:
    @Alphysicist

    They are both equally toxic to your liver.

  106. Fred777 says:

    Six months from now Joe will expound to his loyal media how he stared down that punk Vlad back in Geneva “I told him myself if he needed an ass kicking I’d be happy to personally give it to him!”

  107. haha says:
    @Kramer

    “The fact that the people voted, does not negate the fact that for Russia it amounted to territorial expansion of imperial nature”.

    Nonsense, it does not. Imperial expansion means conquering territory against the will of the local people by force of arms. In Crimea the local people, predominantly ethnic and cultural Russians BTW, voted more than 92% in favor of merging with Russia, the mother country. You may not like Russians uniting and getting stronger but there is nothing morally, ethically, or legally wrong about Crimea’s unification with Russia.

  108. Icy Blast says:
    @alwayswrite

    AlwaysWrite, you are bound to be disappointed. The hundreds of hours you have spent watching The History Channel have done irreparable damage to your brain (such as it is).

  109. U.S. – Russia Presidential Joint Statement on Strategic Stability
    June 16, 2021
    We, President of the United States of America Joseph R. Biden and President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin, note the United States and Russia have demonstrated that, even in periods of tension, they are able to make progress on our shared goals of ensuring predictability in the strategic sphere, reducing the risk of armed conflicts and the threat of nuclear war.

    The recent extension of the New START Treaty exemplifies our commitment to nuclear arms control. Today, we reaffirm the principle that a nuclear war cannot be won and must never be fought.

    Consistent with these goals, the United States and Russia will embark together on an integrated bilateral Strategic Stability Dialogue in the near future that will be deliberate and robust. Through this Dialogue, we seek to lay the groundwork for future arms control and risk reduction measures.

    So in essence they said “Today, we reaffirm the principle that a nuclear war cannot be won and must never be fought.

  110. Saker

    Larchmonter445 made the best post so far over at the Vineland of the Saker…I wish it was reposted here…..

    • Replies: @alwayswrite
  111. Notsofast says:
    @Kramer

    the people of crimea were promised a referendum on independence in the 90’s but never given one. when they were given a vote they voted overwhelmingly to rejoin russia. even the tatars don’t want to return to ukraine. sevastopol is and always was the main navel base of the russian black sea fleet and has always answered to moscow. that was the true prize for imperial nato, maybe they want to make another charge of the light brigade.

  112. @Realist

    Its called the truth,you should try it sometimes,besides wouldn’t it be a dull world without contrarians like myself,you know when you have a website that claims to support ” controversial perspectives ” you shouldn’t be surprised if they get controversial comments by folks like me!

    • Replies: @Realist
  113. Andrew Ho says:
    @Miro23

    In order to be “Iraqed”, mainland China will have to be occupied by a US Expeditionary Force. Please kindly explain how the US Army can pull this off in a conventional war. There are few truisms in war, but Bernard Montgomery sure can teach us two:

    1- Do not fight a land war in China
    2- Do not march on Moscow

    • Replies: @Miro23
  114. @Bill

    Why are you attempting to justify such a stupid and dysfunctional system,blimey you folks can’t stop can you

    It failed so get over it,it failed because it fundamentally wanted to re-engineer humanity and killed millions in the process to create a socialist/ communist utopia based on bonkers stupid Marxism

    • Replies: @Bill
  115. Anon[160] • Disclaimer says:
    @Z-man

    Not once has Tucker ever talked about the latest Gaza bombing by Israel. Everyone keeps talking about how he’s not afraid to go up against the establishment and how he stands up to wokeness etc., but I don’t see it.

  116. Mulegino1 says:
    @Bombercommand

    …The United States gives up nothing, but gives Russia things she greatly desires.

    Actually, the US has lost quite a bit:

    It lost face in the Ukraine, and was forced to back down on its commitment to back the Kiev junta’s planned aggression against the Donbass Republics.

    It lost on NS2

    It lost on Crimea, which will remain part of the RF for the foreseeable future, and as a consequence, lost its opportunity to set up a NATO naval base in Sevastopol.

    It lost because its jingoist rhetoric not only did not succeed in introducing a fissure in Sino-Russian relations, but has continued to bring the two nations closer together.

    It lost the war it launched for regime change in Syria.

    The US has lost quite a bit.

  117. TKK says:
    @Just another serf

    Compare the two men with their dogs.

    Biden has such weak, lazy and feminine energy, he can’t train his own dogs. He is no pack leader, his dogs are confused so they bite and he has to send them away to obedience school.

    Putin has many powerful breeds, and they live with him. They obey him. He loves them. They respect him.

    • Thanks: Ultrafart the Brave
  118. Anonymous[160] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rogue

    He did that on purpose. Like that other politician saying “what’s Aleppo”. To say these people don’t count. He’s an anti Semite; against Semitic Arab/Muslims, that is.

  119. @War for Blair Mountain

    Larchmonster,or whatever his daft name is, wrote perhaps one of the most stupid things I’ve seen in a while,he thinks the whole world revolves around Syria 😂😂😂,no it doesn’t,its a bombed out dump with zero future

    As climate change kicks in all of those Arab and Gulf States are finished it’ll be just to hot to live there

    Plus the global energy transition is gonna deprive them of most of their income,a disaster is coming for them all,plus as oil becomes a commodity no one wants, this part of the world will become nothing more than a vast war zone like some sort of Mad Max film

    You see the geo politics of energy transition means nobody is gonna waste money there,maybe the daft Russians will but it’ll become a irrelevant wasteland by the late century

  120. @Herald

    I’ll side with you here, but have to note: Russia would gladly regather the USSR’s land holdings, and then some, if it had a youthful, growing population with plenty of soldiers and plenty of large families to settle those lands as they used to do.

    Russia lacks the ability to have an aggressive, expansionist foreign policy. It seems naive to think that they have lost the DESIRE to do so.

  121. @Alphysicist

    I agree, and if The Saker can’t get THAT right, why should we trust him to get anything else right in his essay???

    (just kidding, just kidding. Actually I think the article was very good, except I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for the U.S. to show any lasting signs of sanity and The Saker slips up when he refers to the U.S. media.

    “Denying this reality forever is simply not an option for the USA (even if the US media never reports about this).”

    As we all know, there is no U.S. media. What we have is a dual-citizenship, Israeli-owned media with U.S. puppets.

  122. Sergei Lavrov seems quite competent and knowledgeable from what this non-expert can tell, and he speaks more foreign languages than the ZERO many of our U.S. hack “diplomats” speak.

    But it seems to be a gross exaggeration to say that he is fluent in nine languages. The official website of the RF’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs states that Lavrov “has a command of English, French, and Sinhalese.” No mention of Mandarin or Japanese.

    https://www.mid.ru/en/about/structure/minister

    Wikipedia states that Lavrov knows English, French, Sinhalese, and at least used to know some of an obscure language of the Maldives.

    Still quite impressive: four non-Slavic languages having little in common with his native language.

  123. @Old Brown Fool

    “You can’t do that to an LGBTQXYZ / furbie / non-binary person, in the current year that’s just not who we are, you bigoted piece of ….”

    “I said shut the f—- up and give me your water before I blow your head off.”

    Yeah, everyone’s mental illnesses, rude perverse habits, and “demands” for recognition and coddling will go out the window when food and water grow scarce or unaffordable in this bankrupt empire.

  124. @Kramer

    And wasn’t Crimea annexed militarily?

    When will the stupidity end?

    The short answer to your flippant question is “No”. Just for good measure – “Nien” & “Nyet”.

    The long answer to this appallingly uninformed question, is yet another question –

    How many troops, planes, tanks, mobile guns and military vehicles did Russia send in to Crimea to carry out this alleged “annexation”?

    The answer, of course, is “zero”.

    And as always, let’s just spell it out for the innumerate amongst the deluded – that means “none”.

    So now, perhaps you should go insert that inconvenient fact into your geopolitical calculus, along with whatever other adjustments may be necessary to align your outlook with the unbiased truth.

  125. Schuetze says:
    @Bill Jones

    Stalin either murdered or ethnically cleansed the “people of Crimea“, just as he did the people of Königsberg and Eastern Poland. The Russians in Crimea are land thieves just as much as the Jews in Palestine.

  126. Dear Rachel Scott

    The Russian Military versus an all Black US Military..?

    It would be like a large Man stepping 0n a nest of filthy fucking cockroaches…it would be over that fast..

    Rachel Scott is what you get when you allowed the 1964 Civil Rights Act to be passed….

    Blacks are not our friends…Why do you continue to watch Alabama Roll Tide What a Stud Tyrone Ball?

  127. Schuetze says:
    @Ukraine Tiger

    Putin’s only real accomplishment since declaring himself emporer was preventing Chechnya from seceding from the empire. Russia is an empire and always has been. In fact, Russia was and is a more classic empire than “Great Britain”.

    • Disagree: Ukraine Tiger
    • Replies: @annamaria
  128. Johan says:
    @Ghali

    Agreed, sophistication is a word which the Americans inherited, therefor it is in their dictionary, but the meaning of it is wholly lost to them. Arguing about which American was or is sophisticated is like arguing which cola is better, Pepsi or Coke, meaningless, as it is both American junk. All such disputes are a matter of incurable narcissists living in a box of mirrors. No American can escape this, even not the American world travelers and those seemingly aware of and interested in other cultures.
    At best an American can have a crack in some mirror, a small beam of the different other might reach his awareness if the impression is unavoidable, but all the mirrors in which he is enclosed immediately impress themselves on him,so that he is only left with a very faint idea.

  129. Some suggestions by Saker that USA seeks a breathing place/truce in order to r&r to renew the fight against godless carmenism as Ronnie Raygun put it.
    But —

    1) Unlikely it will get this breathing space b/c —
    (a) its own elites cannot stop destroying USA from within.
    (b) Russia, China, Iran, Iraq, Vz, Syria, Afghan Mujaheddin, most of the world iow would be unwilling to grant USA any favours at all.
    Also —
    Israel, USA’s supreme parasite, may itself go under in the next few years, thus removing a large reason for USA’s war on the world. New USA govt could seek trillions in reparation from the parasite …

    2) There will come with continuing collapse some possibilities
    (a) Nuclear war, annihilation of life.
    (b) USA to become a normal country interacting with other countries. Since this will mean making good the massive amount of damage it has caused world-wide, its “leaders” are unlikely to want this. Though maybe other countries may forgive USA and it may not be an issue after all.
    (c) Collapse may entail the unseating of the oligarchs and their corrupt placemen in politics, maybe decent ordinary Americans may take the reins of power.

    “Hope Springs Eternal … ”

  130. @Anonymous

    Where did this idiot come from…?

    I suspect the fact-free contrarian posture of that forum persona is motivated by a pay-to-play arrangement.

    Not unlike that master of the Troll tag, ThatWouldBeTelling.

    Times are hard, any extra income helps.

  131. Schuetze says:
    @haha

    Putin owns everyone of Stalin’s crimes against humanity due to his glorification of Stalin. Laurent Guyenot recently had a great review of McMeekin’s new book “Stalin’s War” here on UR where the author McMeekin lays out very clearly how Stalin set up and caused WWII. All of the misery of the period from 1939-1945 lies on Russia, Stalin AND PUTIN. Russians should just shut up and own the misery they have inflicted on humanity, only second to the misery inflicted by the jews.

    • Replies: @Rich
    , @Ilya G Poimandres
  132. Moi says:
    @anonymous

    The US is the same old rapacious nation it always was.

  133. @anon

    President “Corn Pop”, strikes again.

  134. @Ghali

    Baker also undermined Milosevic, using up time better spent with others who were actually supporting him (Milosevic).

  135. Dnought says:
    @alwayswrite

    give it back Putin and then you can come back into the big and best tent with the west!

    What “West”? Oh…sorry…..“west!”

    “West” is shorthand for “Western Civilization, aka (in the relatively recent past) “Christendom”. The current versions of the USA, UK, EU, etc. certainly no longer reflect the ideals, standards and traditions represented by those terms- the result of a process whose ingredients include an ever-accelerating implementation of the principles of the Frankfurt School; a shortsighted and peculiarly suicidal form of military/economic/social imperialism; the subterfuge of mass immigration; and other miscellaneous aspects of general Globo-homo “goodness”.

    Long story short…there is no “west!” left to “come back into”.

    The “west!”. Ha…….thanks for the laugh. Sorry…..maybe I shouldn’t laugh, perhaps you have been in a coma since 1988, or something and are just waking up.

    • Replies: @alwayswrite
  136. bayviking says:

    The rhetoric today against Russia is worse than the Cuban missile crisis. How dare they not agree to our every demand. We can destroy Iran’s centrifuges but its outrageous when Russians attempt to influence our elections. We can interfere in every election South of our border, even reverting to assassination and mass murder to get our way, but no one else in the world has that right. We can force Eva Morales plane down in Austria because we suspected, incorrectly that Edward Snowden was onboard, but Belarus doing the same thing to a journalist is an international outrage. We can destroy Julian Assange’s health and shorten his life through a program of unwarranted solitary imprisonment but Russia has no right to lock up CIA agent Andrei Pivovarov. The hypocrisy is beyond belief.

    Hacking is a big problem in the USA, impacting our economy more than many, because of the way our control systems function. Individual pirates will always be a problem that law enforcement must deal with. But International hacking by State agents is another matter. Russia proposed an international agreement banning State supported hacking. The US refused, just as they refuse to participate in a ban on land mines. The US thought it held the upper hand because Windows and Unix are US inventions. Just more stupid leadership from our elected officials and the deep State.

  137. Rich says:
    @Schuetze

    There’s a lot of blame to go around for the European theater in WW2, and Stalin definitely deserves a lot of it. But Britain’s war guarantee to Poland is the biggest. The Polish colonels probably would have agreed to a German corridor without the guarantee and the Soviets wouldn’t have been given the Baltics and half of Poland by Herr Hitler. I’m not saying the Germans didn’t have legitimate claims in the East, but they share a lot of the blame, too. By underestimating British resolve, Hitler led his country to its most disastrous defeat.

    • Replies: @Schuetze
  138. @Schuetze

    The Russians in Crimea are land thieves just as much as the Jews in Palestine.

    Even if your assertion were meticulously examined and found to be historically correct, it doesn’t detract from the original geopolitical point in question – Russia didn’t “annex” Crimea, the present Crimean population voted overwhelmingly to rejoin Mother Russia.

    And recall, it was the same Stalin that you allege ethnically cleansed the “people of Crimea” who gifted this historically Russian province to Ukraine – but understandably, the Crimean population wanted overwhelmingly to rejoin Russia, under threat of geniocide by the current Ukrainian Nazi regime.

    Non of this would have come to pass at all, and Crimea would still to this day be happily part of Ukraine, had not Cookies Nuland and her nefarious cabal engineered a violent coup (the “most blatant coup in history”, according to Stratfor chief George Friedman) to install a US-friendly Nazi regime.

    https://newcoldwar.org/stratfor-chiefs-most-blatant-coup-in-history-interview-from-dec-2014/

    https://raymcgovern.com/2021/02/04/most-blatant-coup-in-history/

    Bottom line – at the very least, in recent history, Russia has the moral high ground on the Crimea issue.

    • Agree: bayviking
    • Replies: @Schuetze
    , @Notsofast
  139. @Dnought

    The west is best,simple truth

    It is the very essence of civilisation,a word you use,but not one applicable to the wasteland also known as Russia and its current subhuman so called leader

    • Replies: @Dnought
  140. Miro23 says:
    @Andrew Ho

    In order to be “Iraqed”, mainland China will have to be occupied by a US Expeditionary Force. Please kindly explain how the US Army can pull this off in a conventional war. There are few truisms in war, but Bernard Montgomery sure can teach us two:

    1- Do not fight a land war in China

    2- Do not march on Moscow

    Iraq is the wrong example. There’s a lot of background and planning to their actions. For example PNAC (Project For The New American Century) foreshadowed 9/11 which launched the Global War On Terror and the destruction of the Middle East.

    A key document in their China conflict planning could be the RAND Corporation report (2016) “War with China: Thinking Through The Unthinkable”

    https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/research_reports/RR1100/RR1140/RAND_RR1140.pdf

    In part of its summary it says,

    • Although a war would harm both economies, damage to China’s would be far worse (perhaps 25–35 percent of GDP after 68 War with China: Thinking Through the Unthinkable one year). Because much of the Western Pacific would become a war zone, China’s trade with the region and the rest of the world would decline substantially. China’s loss of seaborne energy supplies would be especially damaging.

    This suggests that the idea would not be to invade China, but rather to shut down ship traffic in the South China Sea and blockade it.

    • Replies: @Alden
  141. Schuetze says:
    @Ultrafart the Brave

    “Russia didn’t “annex” Crimea, the present Crimean population voted overwhelmingly to rejoin Mother Russia.”

    The same statement could be made by the Israelis about Tel Aviv, the US about Guam, or the Chinese about Manchuria.

    Russia has 1000 years of history of invading neighbors, murdering and ethnically cleansing the inhabitants, sending in their land thieves, and then claiming that “the present population voted overwhelmingly to rejoin Mother Russia”. You Russians love competing with Jews for the title of the planets greatest cockroaches.

    • Replies: @Begemot
  142. BorisMay says:

    This summit was nothing more than a variance on rearming Ukraine.

    The US moved its best political freaks to face off Russia and Russia again stood up to the US.

    All this proves is that diplomatically Russia is still miles ahead of the US, just as it is militarily as proved when Russia moved 150,000 men and all their material to their borders with the West in just 3 days, which resulted in the NATO freak out.

    Everything Saker suggests is just window dressing. But he does love his verbiage though doesn’t he!

  143. @alwayswrite

    Yep, idiots ran the USSR as they did and continue to do in the USA. The Soviet Union was dissolved and then invaded by opportunitists from around the planet and within. Putin put a halt to that. When will people such as yourself understand the obvious?

    “lets be honest if thats the system you’re born into why would you think it otherwise”

    That is you and frankly you deserve what is coming at you.

    “I don’t know who Russians will blame next time it goes pop”

    The Russians don’t throw blame around, the idiots in the west, such as yourself, continue to blame and insult Russia. You are one of the most ill-informed people on this platform or just a troll. I suspect the later. Please answer and then you will be blocked.

    • Replies: @alwayswrite
  144. Schuetze says:
    @Rich

    This is all irrelevant when discussing an Saker Russian apologist propaganda piece. Any other group of people can compare themselves to jewish cockroaches in order to make themselves look good.

    As long as Putin, and Russian, militarists cover up Stalin’s, and Russia’s, crimes against humanity they deserve the scorn of the entire planet. Germany has born the false guilt for two world wars that were both started in a large part by Russian imperialism. Russians should own it in precisely the same that the US, the UK, and France should. Instead they blather on about “imperialism”. What a pathetic group of liars Russians are.

    • Replies: @Rich
  145. @Kramer

    Some people are really dense, you are one of these people. The military presence of 26,000 was already in Crimea, with agreement with Ukraine at the time of the democratic vote to return to Russia.

    It was not imperial expansionism, it was acceptance by the Russian Federation to bring Crimea back into the RF at the request of the people of Crimea. I know. I was there and the people could not have been happier. The flags and support for Russia were everywhere, very moving for me.

    • Replies: @alwayswrite
  146. Notsofast says:
    @Ultrafart the Brave

    spot on with your analysis but it was khrushchev who gifted crimea to ukraine.

    • Thanks: Ultrafart the Brave
  147. @SafeNow

    They are good, aren’t they?

  148. Very good, TheSaker. I like your summary.

    • Agree: annamaria
  149. Begemot says:
    @Schuetze

    Russia has 1000 years of history of invading neighbors, murdering and ethnically cleansing the inhabitants, sending in their land thieves, and then claiming that “the present population voted overwhelmingly to rejoin Mother Russia”.

    The Tsars carried out plebiscites in all of these acquired territories? And this has been done for a thousand years? I have studied a bit of Russian history, but this is new to me. Amazing.

  150. @Ukraine Tiger

    But the USA still exists though,you’re living in a lala fantasy about the Soviet Union it was hopelessly bent and corrupt that’s why it failed

    Putin did diddly- squat about putting a halt to the plunder,he just made sure his oligarchs won,thats all plus lived off a high oil price,made him look good,but its all failing now,all Putin can offer is mindless propaganda about saving the world from fascism,ironic since he’s got a global fan club of such people

    Nothings coming to me my friend,its more a case of what’s coming for Russians,which is gonna be more vacuous stupidity from so called intellectually superior Russian diplomats and great leader Putin

    The mans a total moron,as Angela Merkel said,’ Putin,he lives in his own world’ and as a former fully indoctrinated member of the old Soviet/ Warsaw block she’d know

    “The Russians don’t throw blame about”, you tell me,are you having a laugh! they’d win gold medals in the blame game and their best go to tactic of ‘ whataboutery’ talk about childish,but some of the stuff i read coming out of the dumb mouths of those,so superior Russians,sounds utterly insane,like Nazis basically,and i do actually get most of my information from reading what these idiots say in their own news,not the fragments filtered through western MSM, but you only have to watch RT International to see what kind of nutters the Kremlin brings together to try and win over the useful idiots in the west

    But you like all the rest can throw your childish tantrums about ” troll” etc it won’t save Russia under Putin thats a fact,its basically buggered simple as,just like the old Soviet Union,its just a matter of time

    Now you can block me! 😴

    • Replies: @Dnought
    , @Dnought
  151. All this blathering about Crimea….comes down to this and only this:The US Military wants to colonize Crimea-with nukes on Russia’s border. And it will be done on behalf of Neocon Jews…

    The Tartars did their dirty work for the Sultan…Kidnap and rape Slavic Women….Fuck the Tartars…

  152. anon[180] • Disclaimer says:

    @Kramer

    “But you cannot deny Moscow’s military presence in Crimea.”

    No, you can’t, because under the terms of Russia’s lease with Ukraine on it’s naval base in Sevastopol, Russia had the right to have 25k troops stationed there. In fact, they only had 20k at the time they supposedly “annexed” Crimea, by plebiscite AND parliamentary ratification, overwhelmingly in both cases. And half the Ukrainian troops there joined the Russian army.

    “It doesn’t even matter how it happened.”

    Well, this is absurd on its face. Some Babushka should sit on yours.

  153. @Ukraine Tiger

    It was a fake referendum the whole world knows it was

    It was overseen by a bunch of right wing nutters and fascist scum from around Europe who were invited as ‘ international observers ‘ what a sick joke

    So whoever got out with their flags are basically a bunch of pro Putin idiots,well i hope Putin is good at doing the rain dance because Crimea has got no water,Kiev cut it off,and why not since Crimea is now Russian they can supply the water,like i said what has Putin gained,well nothing but a parched and sanctioned money pit

    talking about jokes,Putin will pull another stunt this year with the fake election in Russia,much the same as Belarus,although they’ll be no opposition in Russia,its now pretty much a police state so i don’t buy you’re blather about the will of the people,the real people of Crimea are its Tartar population who’ve been ethnically cleansed,those who live there now are basically colonists,basically all Russian federation is a vast colony sending its treasures to Moscow

    So Russia is basically a totalitarian,police state,an imperial colonial system to exploit its citizens and centralize power in Moscow,the very definition of imperialism of which the Crimea has yet again been added

    • Replies: @Ukraine Tiger
    , @Dnought
  154. Rich says:
    @Schuetze

    I have to disagree with you. There’s no point in apologizing or “owning it”. The horrors visited on innocent German civilians, the horrible rapes, murders and tortures were disgusting, but what does saying “sorry” change? It happened. It’s done. Is everyone in the world going to whine and cry until they get a piece of Palestine? Leave the whining to the professionals, I’d rather see a stronger more manly Germany, not fretting over its worst defeat, but moving forward remembering its great victories and returning to the values that helped them achieve so much.

  155. Dnought says:
    @alwayswrite

    The west is best,simple truth

    The west is used to be best,simple truth

    FIFY.

    Open your eyes.

    • Agree: Rogue
  156. @shylockcracy

    And evidence of the otherwise obvious just keeps mounting and mounting every second that passes. Here’s Russian authorities, with the Kremlin themselves at the top, no less, warning they’re gonna be denying citizens their right to medical treatment unless they get the Covid1984 vaccine first:

    “Moscow hospitals to deny routine treatment to patients who refuse Covid-19 vaccines, as Kremlin warns skepticism is costing lives”
    https://www.rt.com/russia/526966-routine-treatment-refusal-non-vaccinated/

    Given Putin’s photo ops when visiting Assad in Damascus or giving some half-hearted rebuke at Western “interventionsim” in Munich, less compliance with globalist directives should be expected, but the thing is that if one remembers only those photo ops and speeches, one forgets he offered Russian airspace to Kabul-bound NATO Zioterrorists after the 9/11 self-attack.

    Since Russian Zioligarchs can fly their own private doctos in their own private jets to their own private clinics, or just go abroad, they won’t be getting differential mistreatment for vax hesitantancy.

    Sounds just like the kind of democracy all US presidents love so much. All are one under the shiny sun of Zion.

  157. Alden says:

    The recent Putin Biden photo opportunity is a big nothing burger and so is Saker’s ramblings about it.

  158. Dnought says:
    @alwayswrite

    Angela Merkel said,’ Putin,he lives in his own world’

    Actually, I believe it was Obama who said that.

    Merkel seems to like “Putin’s world” enough to get about 25% of Germany’s energy from Russia. It is probable that percentage will eventually double after NordStream 2 is completed.

  159. Alden says:
    @Miro23

    Mongols and Manchurians fought very successful land wars in China.

    • Replies: @d dan
    , @Miro23
    , @Anonymous
  160. Vigilius says:

    To summarize: It is declaration of the New Cold War .
    What is new ?
    More hot little wars , intense tech – propaganda and planetary fear of getting sick and
    “possibly dye” !!! as a new catalyst to resolve historical and philosophical difficult
    questions .

  161. d dan says:
    @Alden

    “Mongols and Manchurians fought very successful land wars in China.”

    Because they got a lot of helps from Han Chinese.

  162. Max Payne says:

    The West should relabel NATO ‘The Army of Humanity”. Implying that those that oppose the Army of Humanity are not human.

    Man I should charge NATO for that…..

  163. Miro23 says:
    @Alden

    This suggests that the idea would not be to invade China, but rather to shut down ship traffic in the South China Sea and blockade it.

    Mongols and Manchurians fought very successful land wars in China.

    The US military would get absolutely nowhere in a China land invasion, so all they can do is use their electronic battlefield dominance to close the South China Sea ( assuming that the Russians don’t covertly lend the Chinese some equipment – which they may well do).

  164. Realist says:
    @alwayswrite

    The basis of your existence is stupidity.

    • Agree: Commentator Mike
  165. @alwayswrite

    A really sad case of delusional tripe. Bye dickhead.

  166. Bill says:
    @alwayswrite

    Not only was I not defending Communism, you illiterate imbecile, I take for granted that it was a terrible system.

  167. ” exploit its citizens and centralize power in Moscow”

    Exactly what the US did in 1913 when centralising power in Washington along with privatising the federal reserve and introducing income tax. That what you get when you are sub-serviant to jews which you obviously are. By the way, how is life in the black country?

    • Replies: @alwayswrite
  168. @Old Brown Fool

    “Just like all those organic food fads disappear once a recession sets in, all these groups will disappear once the underlying prosperity evaporates…”

    When I tell people that I’m a vegetarian [luxurious choice, I know], and then go on and tell them, “But when push comes to shove, and it’s all about survival, I will kill and eat you!” they laugh their heads off…, until they realize I’m ff-ing serious.

    • Replies: @Old Brown Fool
  169. anonymous[753] • Disclaimer says:
    @Odinhammer

    promotion of Christianity over our own native faiths like Nordic paganism

    Didn’t you get the memo, you pagan godless vermin… Christianity simply renamed Odin as the generic “Father,” and Thor as his “Son.”

    At a conceptual level, how different is your “Nordic paganism,” with the paganism of Christianity? You just feel more comfortable worshipping “lily-white mangods,” who look like you? Of course, you have every right to fulfil whatever supremacist delusional pestilence your heart desires.

    Can’t you see, paganism in one form or another, is ultimately satanic godlessness? You godless scum might as well worship your fathers and grandfathers, as indeed some other godless people do… at least you have proof, the accursed who spawned you and led you down the path of damnation, actually existed. The only proof you have of Odin and Thor are… fucking comics.

    It is incredible that humans actually believe that some kind of drama which we see unfold on cinema screens could actually be about their “gods’” very existence.

    You faeces-for-brains morons actually consider yourselves a “superior” race?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  170. anonymous[753] • Disclaimer says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    syphillitic whore Kamala Harris incurable twat

    You probably know more about your “despicable” VP, than me. But to be fair, given the diseased promiscuous culture of the west, that colourful description probably also applies closer to your home, if you know what I mean. After all, it is who y’all are, right? #justsayin

    • Replies: @anonymous
  171. Dnought says:
    @alwayswrite

    From a poll conducted by Pew Research Center in 2014:

    Should the government in Kyiv recognize the results of the referendum in Crimea?

    Crimea residents: 88% YES/ 4% No / 7% Don’t know

    https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2014/05/08/despite-concerns-about-governance-ukrainians-want-to-remain-one-country/pg-2014-05-08-ukraine-russia-0-05/

    Would seem to pretty closely mirror the results of the referendum, yes?

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  172. @Beckow

    Putin knows that China does ‘win-win’ deals, whereas the West, led by the US, only prefers ‘winner takes all’ arrangements. Just ask any country subjected to the tender mercies of Western multi-national mining corporations, or the economic hit-men of the Washington Consensus of the IMF, World Bank etc, and their ‘Structural Adjustment’ policies. That is real existing, vicious, ‘economic coercion’.

  173. annamaria says:
    @alwayswrite

    “give it back to the Tartars”
    — Did you mean Ottoman Empire?

    “then you can come back into the big and best tent with the west!”
    — Have you seen this new bronze addition to the US glory?

    “Newark community members gather for the unveiling of a statue of George Floyd on Wednesday. The statue, which also commemorates the Juneteenth holiday, will remain in front of City Hall for at least a year, officials said.” (Photo: City of Newark)


    Enjoy your bestest tent.

    • Agree: Dnought
  174. @Kramer

    Your book, perhaps.

    Not necessarily by anyone else’s.

  175. DrCiber says:
    @Alphysicist

    Back in the late 1950’s my grandmother had a Boxer dog that drank two bottles of Pepsi Cola a day.

  176. @Odinhammer

    Your fantasies are…..interesting, shall we say.

  177. @d dan

    In fact the Mongol invasions of Central Asia, the Khazar Empire, Rus, and East/Central Europe depended on Han military engineers as much as on Mongol cavalry divisions.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  178. DrCiber says:
    @Beckow

    Let’s not give Obama so much credit. “Obama’s War” may have happened on his watch but it was hardly his war. O was a puppet no less than Georgie Bush before him or the Donald after him.

  179. annamaria says:
    @Caspar von Everec

    Soft power can use the immense wealth of documented atrocities committed by Jews.
    Exhibit One: Goloshchyokin genocide. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filipp_Goloshchyokin

    Filipp Isayevich Goloshchyokin (born Shaya Itsikovich) was a Bolshevik revolutionary, Soviet politician, and party functionary.

    …he was appointed First Secretary of the Communist Party in the newly created Kazakh Autonomous Socialist Soviet Republic. From 1925 to 1933 he ran the Kazakh ASSR with virtually no outside interference as a local dictator. … Goloshchyokin ordered that Kazakhstan’s largely nomadic population was to be forced to settle in collective farms. This caused a deadly famine in Kazakhstan … 38% of all Kazakhs died

    A historian of the revolution, V.L. Burtsev, who knew Goloshchyokin, characterized him as such: “the executioner, cruel, with some elements of degeneration. In party life he was arrogant, was a demagogue, a cynic. He did not count the Kazakhs as people at all.”

    Sounds like a cross between Madeleine Albright and Bibi.
    After ruining the Russian civilization and murdering the Russian imperial family (btw, Shaya Itsikovich was an active participant in the murder), the same sadistic lot was busy destroying the magnificent German civilization.
    Why there were no attempts at demanding reparations from Jacon Schiff et al who bankrolled the bloody Bolshevik revolution? The Bolshevik coup had led to the genocide in Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Russia…

  180. Anonymous[245] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous

    This is rich coming from someone who worships a man nailed to a cross.

  181. annamaria says:
    @Schuetze

    You need to make basic inquiries before making emotion-laden claims: http://www.crimeahistory.org/the-first-annexation-of-crimea-1784/

    A decisive moment in the fate of Crimea was the outcome of the Russian-Turkish War that lasted from 1768 to 1774.

    Joseph Stalin (Georgian) and his best Jewish friends Lazar Kaganovich, Naftali Frenkel, Filipp Goloshchyokin (Shaya Itsikovih), Zemlyachka (Rozalia Zalkind) and the likes had been murdering people of all ethnic groups by the millions, after 1918.
    The fate of Crimea was decided in 1774 –incidentally, before the famous year of 1776. Please put your thinking in order.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_United_States_(1776–1789)

    For the US to cry rivers about Crimean Tatars while mass-slaughtering Iraqis, Libyans, Syrians, and Afghanis of all ages are simply a regular show of hypocrisy.
    After the Nuland-Kagan coup in Kiev, Ukraine has become a failed state. It is run by zionists in cooperation with banderites. Mazel Tov, Ukrainian Russophobes in Canada!
    As for the Crimeans at large, they are content with reuniting with Mother Russia. There were several referenda in Crimea before the final one. They all were the models of democracy next to the farce of US elections.
    The words “annexation of Crimea” are dirty propaganda produced by the State Dept.

    • Thanks: Ultrafart the brave
  182. annamaria says:
    @Schuetze

    Could you name overseas Russian colonies?
    Do they teach world history at your school?

    • Agree: Ultrafart the brave
  183. Ukronazi orcs like Schitz don’t do history.

  184. Beckow says:
    @annamaria

    Floyd’s statue worries me the least – check out the other characters. And they think they rule the world…

  185. @Dnought

    All ways a lying shite wouldn’t know the truth if it was inserted up him.

  186. Shining city on the hill
    Navalny

    Explanation:
    Biden several times noted that he wants to say to Putin several things what Putin must not do.
    Interfere in US election,
    Stop the cyber-attacks.
    Let Navalny die of old age.
    And so Biden said it.
    This meeting was initiated by Biden for domestic audience to boost his prestige.
    Naturally all those three were hoaxes invented by fake media.
    Putin did understand what was that all about so he went along.
    ………………………………………………………………………………………………..
    But now fake media cannot invent another hoax because that would undermine Biden’s authority.
    So all is good.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  187. Did they discuss Israel-Palestine? If Iran is important enough why not this?

  188. R.C. says:

    The Saker: Excellent!
    R.C.

  189. @Daniel Rich

    Vegetarian food is not luxurious; it is much cheaper than meat, except in some developed countries. In all other countries, poor people eat vegetarian food by compulsion.

  190. To all those silly people who think Crimea referendum was a resounding yes for joining Russia,here are the facts,REAL FACTS AS FOUND BY THE RUSSIANS THEMSELVES THEN SUPPRESSED!

    FACT it wasn’t a valid referendum,a leaked documents from Russian own human rights council stated that a very low turn out took place

    TURNOUT WAS ONLY FORTY PERCENT!

    the whole thing was,a mass act of fraud with perhaps no more than about 30 % of the turnout voting in favour of joining Russia many apparently voted for fear of the violence breaking out, due to Russian backed provocations

    Like i said the only observers were a motley syncretic crew of extremists from Europe many with links to far right fascism,ironically Putin says the Ukrainian government is full of Nazis but he has his fake Crimea referendum validated by fascists trash,like I’ve before Putin is pure hypocritical scum,when he blathers about how Russia saved the world from fascism

    • Replies: @Dnought
  191. @Ukraine Tiger

    More nastiness from Ukrainian Tiger 😴

    Thats all you actually have isn’t it nasty hate,thats why you like Putin,if it wasn’t him in another time it would have been Hitler or some other zombie totalitarian psycho

    You’re an extremist,you like other extremists,basically you need therapy,I’d start by seriously reducing your consumption of Kremlin kool- aid as its rotting what little brain you have

  192. yurivku says:
    @alwayswrite

    20 years, until the end of Russia,mark my words!

    Marked. But I’m sure we will visit your funerals and may be get a flu.

  193. yurivku says:
    @Realist

    Southern warm water sea port.

    It’s more, it’s control of Mediterranean, starting point for long range aviation and missiles which ranges almost whole Europe, not to mention of uniting Russians with their Motherland.

    • Thanks: Realist
  194. yurivku says:
    @Rogue

    I wouldn’t suspect Biden of not having senility if you’d seen the bumbling,…

    I said “suspect”. But it’s clear that deep state regaining some consciousness, may be it’s just temporary enlightenment, we’ll see.

  195. Without “a” Russia, there can be no America ideology. America clings to relativity in existential panic. I think it is wise of Putin not to make aggressive “statements” where he almost appeared to have a general chat about 1/6 because we all know it doesn’t matter. I would go for the nothingburger outcome.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  196. Rahan says:
    @CelestiaQuesta

    it doesn’t work on a country that is 99% white and heterosexual.

    Belarus is 99% white.
    Russia is 77.7% Russian. https://kvest-text.ru/grazhdanstvo/chislennost-russkih.html
    The remainder are mostly:
    – Turkic Muslim Caucasians (Chechens, Ingushs, Dagestanis, Balkarians etc);
    – Volga Muslims (Tatars, Bashkirs);
    (Although, to be fair, both of the above groups would count as “non-Hispanic white” on a US census, kek, something to keep in mind when reviewing US race statistics. A Chechen, an Egyptian, an Algerian, and a Bashkir would all count as “non-Hispanic white”)
    – Buddhist Asiatics (Buryats, Kalmyks, Tuvins);
    – Various shamanic pre-Amerindian “native Siberians”.
    – Plus millions of migrants from Tajikistan, Uzbeskistan, Azerbaijan, Armenia, and others (Russia is always in second place after the US concerning number of migrants coming in)
    https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/03/which-countries-have-the-most-immigrants-51048ff1f9

    The difference is that back in the 1990s Russia and much of Eastern Europe fully expected to fall into a demographic tailspin, while the West just keeps on prospering. No one realized that soon the Great Replacement would kick in for real, and that instead of planning for an eternally progressing and prospering West, one rather has to simply brace for impact and wait out the short-term peak of the West’s hegemony.

    • Thanks: CelestiaQuesta
    • Replies: @CelestiaQuesta
  197. @annamaria

    George Floyd – what a guy!

    The bestest ever hero since Robin of Sherwood Forest!

    I’m waiting for the announcement of George’s posthumous Nobel Peace Prize.

  198. @Ghali

    [T]he Saker writes: “James Baker was probably the last truly sophisticated US Secretary of State”. This is utter rubbish. James Baker was a racist and violent warmongering ignorant.

    Henry Kissinger was and is an evil barsteward, the worst of the worst who should have been put on trial years ago, but he knew what he was doing. Your post is without merit.

  199. Avery says:
    @annamaria

    People who consider a violent felon, who previously in his crime-filled life had threatened a pregnant woman with a gun, and who died or was killed in an encounter with police due to having committed fraud and was being arrested, some kind of heroic figure deserving a statue are beyond redemption.

    An appropriate statue to commemorate Floyd would be him standing and pointing a gun at the belly of a pregnant woman.

  200. @Schuetze

    Nah, all the commies were and are statist and international socialists – they would have done the same. Stalin kept Russia together by purging the purgers, the whole war lust thing for them was just a delusion of statist socialist (communist/fascist) ideology. But really he was Ghaddafi’d for his gold rouble plan.

  201. Questi0n for Saker and Andrie Martyanov

    What do guys think of Paul Craig Roberts uncritical use of Victor Suvorov as a primary source for WW2?

  202. Dnought says:
    @alwayswrite

    For their part, Crimeans seem content with their annexation by Russia. Overwhelming majorities say the March 16th referendum was free and fair (91%) and that the government in Kyiv ought to recognize the results of the vote (88%).

    https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2014/05/08/despite-concerns-about-governance-ukrainians-want-to-remain-one-country/

    Your constant resort to pejoratives is not an impressive way to argue.

    • Replies: @alwayswrite
  203. anon[218] • Disclaimer says:

    @anonymous 753

    “But to be fair, given the diseased promiscuous culture of the west, that colourful description probably also applies closer to your home, if you know what I mean. After all, it is who y’all are, right?”

    Puts me in mind of something I read. A Danish feller, commenting on the womanhood of his country said: There are only two types of women in my country now, the professional prostitutes and the amateurs .

  204. anon[105] • Disclaimer says:

    @Ultrafart the brave #204

    “I’m waiting for the announcement of George’s posthumous Nobel Peace Prize. ”

    I’m waiting for them to come out with the George Floyd hood ornament. I understand it’s the shortage thereof that is holding up new car production.

  205. @Dnought

    The Russian Human Rights Council would disagree,well they did disagree you should look it up before you start shooting your mouth off and embarrassing yourself

    The Crimea referendum was a fraudulent event i think it took only ten days to organize,was overseen by rightwing fascist observers and was basically a total farce

    Keep taking the Kremlin kool aid propaganda

    • Troll: Mulga Mumblebrain
    • Replies: @Dnought
  206. anon[322] • Disclaimer says:

    @As Always

    “The Crimea referendum was a fraudulent event i think it took only ten days to organize,was overseen by rightwing fascist observers . . .”

    They had the Azov battalion oversee the referendum? How conciliatory of Putin.

  207. mile says:

    Little bald guy finally getting some limelight. I’m sure he couldn’t sleep the night before or the night after the “summit”, due to thrill and excitement. In an hour he lived the dream of all “russian” oligarchs. He is coming home as hero. For the second time he has been bought to betray and confront. So now, the containment of China can start in earnest. The poor Russians, they never win, they never learn. They always serve. Despite the “combined” efforts China will inevitably rise to its destiny, while the Russians will always be critters. And, some people still think that Russia is our future.

    • Troll: Mulga Mumblebrain
  208. @Bill

    I am old enough to remember how the Russians went from being “the Awful Bolshevists” to being “Our Gallant Allies” to being the “Dreaded Commies”, all in a matter of less than a decade.

  209. Dnought says:
    @alwayswrite

    Pew Research Center is hardly a tool of the Kremlin.

    I note you have no response to the data presented. Nor do you present any evidence the referendum was fradulent. You just keep repeating your mantras and childish insults, and then throw in the opinion of the Russian Human Rights Commission, who themselves stated that a majority voted for Russian annexation, though at a lower percentage than was officially announced (though they never presented any evidence for their assertion, either).

    Here is an article from the Washington Post for you to chew on:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/03/18/six-years-20-billion-russian-investment-later-crimeans-are-happy-with-russian-annexation/

    Is the Washington Post a tool of the Kremlin also?

  210. @Rahan

    Thanks for the correction. I keep forgetting their are well informed, educated, wise and brilliant writers/commenters here on UNZ.

    • Replies: @Rahan
  211. @Dnought

    WAPO got it wrong, as ever. Crimea was LIBERATED from neo-Nazi and sub-fascist orcs, not ‘annexed’.

  212. @Johann Theron

    The USA follows Judaism as transmitted by the Puritans et al. The Eternal Enemy who will never disappear not matter how many we murder, is The Other. If you’re not like me, whatever I am, you’re a ‘threat’.

  213. @Zarathustra

    I’m just waiting for Navalny’s trial for treason, which he is guilty of over and over again. Throw away the keys!

  214. @Dnought

    The evidence is there from the Russian Human Rights council you just don’t want to write it in your comment,its also why Putin purged the Council

    Russia can waste as much money as they want in Crimea,i couldn’t read your link by the way,but it doesn’t matter as I’m familiar with the figures about investment,but without water they’re stuffed,without tourists they’re also stuffed,Russia has also forced Crimea youth into its army of occupation,

    Putin is basically building up a child army in Crimea,indoctrinating children to hate part of their own country,all of which is against the Geneva Convention,these kids are putins equivalent to the Hitler Youth,but then why not as Putin himself has created a fascist regime

    along with the persecution of the rightful residents,Tartars, this is gonna make for a very unhappy population,basically the poor folks of Crimea have no option but to live a shitty sanctioned life in Putin Russia,who’s fascist regime now occupies Ukrainian sovereign territory

    • Troll: Mulga Mumblebrain
  215. JasonT says:

    “An agreement to discuss cybersecurity on an expert level (something the Russians had been demanding for years, but which the USA rejected out of hand).”

    This caught my eye. With the impending targeted cyber attacks on the corporate supply chain by the Davos/WEF/bankster crowd with the aid of the CIA and other three letter U.S. government organizations, it smells to me that the Powers That Be want to ensure their assets in both the U.S. and Russia are on the same page.

    The cyber attacks will mark the opening of the Second Seal, the First Seal having already been opened in the form of the ‘vaccination’ program. With the corporate supply chains being targeted, it will not be long before food supplies dry up, famine sets in and people’s immune systems take a double beating from being hungry and having taken the immune system destroying poison euphemistically called a ‘vaccine’.

    Death on an enormous scale can only follow.

  216. Anon[115] • Disclaimer says:

    The Russia hate is another manifestation of Jewish control of America. The Jews HATE Putin & Russia because Putin stopped their looting of Russian assets under the drunk Yeltsin.
    Just as they did during the Wiemar hyper inflation in Germany the Jews had money shipped in from overseas and were buying up Public assets at pennies on the dollar.
    That led to huge resentment of Jews in Germany and again in Russia.
    The Jewish Deep State behind Clinton sent a planeload of “democracy advisors” to Moscow in the 90’s. They were actually an economic wrecking crew that looted the vulnerable Russian people of $TRILLIONS. The ensuing societal collapse killed ten million Russians (4 million were kids).
    99% of bad things you hear about Russia is Jewish smear.
    Putin is the only SuperPower leader standing up for Western European CHRISTIAN Democratic Civilization. Merkel and the TREASONOUS Brussels Politicians have thrown open the GATES of the CITY to GENOCIDAL Refujihadi INVADERS who have been pushed that way by US/NATO actions and Israeli deceit. http://investmentwatchblog.com/putin-criticizes-western-countries-for-abandoning-christian-roots/
    Putin’s big crime in the mind of our REAL rulers is he did not make any effort to put communism back into place in the former USSR. He made common bond with the Orthodox Christian Church and even encouraged the rebuilding of Christian churches all over the former atheistic USSR. http://investmentwatchblog.com/putin-calls-for-cultural-self-preservation-of-europe-from-impure-globalist-agenda/

  217. gT says:

    “Besides, while China has a lot to offer Russia, the USA has literally absolutely nothing Russia would want or need.”

    Russia really requires panda bears.

  218. As Woody Allen once famously remarked, “90% of life is just showing up.”. Just by being there, Putin won. Next comes the winning streak to top all winning streaks. Well… no, he’ll let the United Bankrupt Banana Republic States of Gulag Gestapo Amerika win one, occasionally, just to show he’s a good sport.

  219. America and Russia have both chosen their fates. Russia life. ’Murka oblivion.

  220. Anonymous[266] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alden

    Problem is that vast majority of ethnic Mongolians, and almost all ethnic Manchurians, have been Chinese for a very, very long time. As in, fully assimilated into China. That avenue of attack is closed.

    Maybe you are thinking that the Eight Nation Alliance will force another Unequal Treaty on China?

    Well, just in case you are thinking that, I have a beach property in Nebraska I want to sell you . . .

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