The Unz Review • An Alternative Media Selection$
A Collection of Interesting, Important, and Controversial Perspectives Largely Excluded from the American Mainstream Media
 BlogviewThe Saker Archive
Palestine: Hamas Defeats Israel
Email This Page to Someone

 Remember My Information

Credit: Musa Al-Shaer/AFP

Bookmark Toggle AllToCAdd to LibraryRemove from Library • B
Show CommentNext New CommentNext New ReplyRead More
ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
These buttons register your public Agreement, Disagreement, Thanks, LOL, or Troll with the selected comment. They are ONLY available to recent, frequent commenters who have saved their Name+Email using the 'Remember My Information' checkbox, and may also ONLY be used three times during any eight hour period.
Ignore Commenter Follow Commenter
Search Text Case Sensitive  Exact Words  Include Comments
List of Bookmarks

Just like in 2006, when both Ehud Olmert and George Bush declared that the “invincible IDF” had, yet again, achieved a “glorious victory” and the entire Middle-East almost died laughing hearing this ridiculous claim, today both the US and Israeli propaganda machine have declared another “glorious” victory for the “Jewish state of Israel” cum “sole democracy in the Middle-East”. And, just like in 2006, everybody in the region (and in Zone B) knows that the truth is that the Zionist entity suffered a huge, humiliated, defeat. Let’s try to unpack this.

First, a few numbers. The combat operations lasted two weeks. All other missile numbers are in dispute. Rather than trust this or that source, I will simply say that Hamas fired many thousands of missiles into Israel. Some, probably less than 50%, were truly intercepted by the Israeli air defenses, others hit in no man’s land, and some actually landed and caused plenty of destruction and at least 12 deaths. The Israelis executed hundreds of artillery and airstrikes causing massive destruction in the Gaza strip and killing about 250 Palestinians. Again, these numbers are guesstimates and they don’t really tell the full story. To understand the story, we need to forget about these numbers and look at what each side was hoping for and what each side achieved. Let’s begin with the Israelis:

The Israeli scorecard

To understand Israel’s goals in this war, we first need to place this latest war in its context, and that context is that Israel was comprehensively defeated in Syria. To substantiate this thesis, let’s remember the goals of the Zionists when they unleashed a major international war against Syria. These objectives, as listed in my July 2019 article “Debunking the Rumors About Russia Caving in to Israel” were:

The initial AngloZionist plan was to overthrow Assad and replace him with the Takfiri crazies (Daesh, al-Qaeda, al-Nusra, ISIS – call them whatever you want). Doing this would achieve the following goals:

  1. Bring down a strong secular Arab state along with its political structure, armed forces, and security services.
  2. Create total chaos and horror in Syria justifying the creation of a “security zone” by Israel not only in the Golan but further north.
  3. Trigger a civil war in Lebanon by unleashing the Takfiri crazies against Hezbollah.
  4. Let the Takfiris and Hezbollah bleed each other to death, then create a “security zone,” but this time in Lebanon.
  5. Prevent the creation of a Shia axis Iran-Iraq-Syria-Lebanon.
  6. Break up Syria along ethnic and religious lines.
  7. Create a Kurdistan which could then be used against Turkey, Syria, Iraq, and Iran.
  8. Make it possible for Israel to become the uncontested power broker in the Middle-East and force the KSA, Qatar, Oman, Kuwait, and all others to have to go to Israel for any gas or oil pipeline project.
  9. Gradually isolate, threaten, subvert, and eventually attack Iran with a broad regional coalition of forces.
  10. Eliminate all centers of Shia power in the Middle-East.

As we all know, this is what actually happened:

  1. The Syrian state has survived, and its armed and security forces are now far more capable than they were before the war started (remember how they almost lost the war initially? The Syrians bounced back while learning some very hard lessons. By all reports, they improved tremendously, while at critical moments Iran and Hezbollah were literally “plugging holes” in the Syrian frontlines and “extinguishing fires” on local flashpoints. Now the Syrians are doing a very good job of liberating large chunks of their country, including every single city in Syria).
  2. Not only is Syria stronger, but the Iranians and Hezbollah are all over the country now, which is driving the Israelis into a state of panic and rage.
  3. Lebanon is rock solid; even the latest Saudi attempt to kidnap Hariri is backfiring. (2021 update: in spite of the explosion in Beirut, Hezbollah is still in charge)
  4. Syria will remain unitary, and Kurdistan is not happening. Millions of displaced refugees are returning home.
  5. Israel and the US look like total idiots and, even worse, as losers with no credibility left.

Seeing their defeat in Syria, the Zionists did what they always do: they used their propaganda machine to list an apparently neverending victorious strikes on supposed “Iranian targets” in Syria. While a few civilian simpletons with zero military experience did buy into this nonsense, the truth about Israeli operations in Syria is simple: the Syrian air defenses have successfully prevented the Israelis from striking at important, sensitive, targets, and they Israelis have been forced to declare as major victories the destruction of empty barns as “destruction of important IRGC headquarters” thereby “proving” to a few naive folks in Zone A and to themselves (!) that the IDF is still as “invincible” as it “always was”. As for the Neocons, they doubled-up on that and declared that 1) Russian air defenses are useless 2) that Russia and Israel work hand in hand and 3) that the Israelis are still invincible. Yet if any of that was true, why has Israel failed to achieve a single one of its goals? And why are both the Russians and the Iranians still in Syria were the Russians just finished a 2nd runway at Khmeimim and they have just deployed a group of Tu-22M3 at that air base from where they can now threaten any ship sailing in the Mediterranean, the Red Sea, the Persian Gulf, the Arabian Sea and the Indian Ocean. In their otherwise “free time” they can deliver tons of bombs and missiles to the remaining Takfiri forces in Syria.

As I have been saying for many years now, the truth is that the IDF is a poor fighting force. Why? First, they have the exact same problem as the USA (and the KSA, for that matter): they rely on expensive technology, but don’t have good combat-capable “boots on the ground”. That is now how modern wars are won (see here for a list of popular misconceptions about modern wars).

In its recent history, the entire gamut of Israeli “elite” forces (including the air force, the navy, the artillery and even the Golani Brigade) got its collective butt handed to them by about 1000 and only lightly armed regular Hezbollah fighters in 2006: keep in mind that the elite Hezbollah forces were deployed only north of the Litani river to protect Beirut against a possible land invasion by Israel. Instead of taking Beirut or “disarming Hezbollah” (that was an official goal!), the Israelis could not even control the small town of Bint Jbeil located right across the official Israeli border! So much for being “invincible”!

What the IDF is very experienced at is terrorising Palestinian civilians and executing what could be called a slow-motion genocide of the Palestinian people. The problem with Gaza now is the same that the failed invasion of Lebanon in 2006 has revealed: just like the Lebanese in 2006, the Palestinians of 2021 are not afraid of the Zionists anymore. Furthermore, with a great deal of help from Iran and others, Hamas in Gaza is now much, much better armed than in the past. True, some of its missiles are decidedly low tech and not very effective (low accuracy, small warheads, simple trajectory, limited range), but Hamas also has shown some pretty decent UAVs too. Most importantly, from now on for Hamas it is only one way: up the “quality ladder” (just like the Houthis did in Yemen, starting with modest drones but eventually getting very capable ones).

The other major goal of the Israelis in this war was to prove to the world (and, even more importantly for the always narcissistic self-worshipping Israeli cowards, to themselves!) that their “Iron Dome” air defense network was the “super-dooper most bestest” in the world (no doubt, due to the famed “Jewish genius”!). It now appears that at best, the Israelis intercepted somewhere around 30-40% of the Hamas missiles. The way the Israeli hid this is by claiming that their fancy shmancy Iron Drone did not even try to engage missiles which were not deemed dangerous. But in the age of the ubiquitous smartphone, that kind of silly nonsense can easily be debunked (including by showing the total chaos in the Israeli skies or, for that matter, the missile strikes on Israeli military objectives). While the full Iron Dome air defense system probably works marginally better than the quasi-useless US Patriot, the Israeli air defenses are clearly at least a generation behind the Russian ones, including the S-300s the Russians sold to Syria (again, in the age of of the ubiquitous smartphone, this is not hard to prove).

It is crucial to remember that Hamas’ missiles are much inferior to those of the Houthis and the Syrians, and even more inferior when compared to Hezbollah or Iranian drones and missiles! In other words, the “invincible” IDF can’t deal with even its weakest, least sophisticated enemies (Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad) and the grotesquely expensive Iron Done cannot protect the Zionists from any determined missile attacks by the Resistance coalition (Palestine, Yemen, Syria, Hezbollah, Iran and Russia).

In their utter despair, the Zionist entity did what the AngloZionists always do when they fail to defeat a military forces: they will turn their wrath on the civilian infrastructure and murder as many as they can. They will also strike highly symbolic targets such as the International Press Center in Gaza or a Red Crescent hospital (under the pretext that Hamas, which is the democratically elected local government) has offices there (this is clearly a F-you to those who condemn Israel for violating international law). To a normal human being, this sounds both obscene and ridiculous. But remember, the Israelis are first and foremost narcissists and they have no means of imagining how normal human beings think or feel. All these guys can feel is self-worship and hatred for all “others”.

We could say that in this war, the Palestinians defeated both military high tech and truly medieval type of genocidal hatred.

In other words, far from showing how “invincible” the Zionist entity is, this latest war against the Palestinians has shown beyond reasonable doubt that the IDF cannot deal with any of its enemies.

Besides missiles and bombs, the Israelis love to use terror, as their ideology has convinced them of two things: the Arabs only understand force and we, the Israelis, are invincible. But this begs the question of why the Israelis did not dare to move into Gaza, not even symbolically. Yeah, I know, the official doxa of Zone A is that “Biden called Netanyahu and told him to stop”. As if “Biden” could give orders to the Israelis!

The truth is that even with a casualty rate of 10:1 in the IDF’s advantage and no armor or artillery, the Palestinians are much more willing to engage in street battles than the IDF. Would the IDF eventually win a ground battle against Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad? Maybe, probably, the objective advantages in everything (except courage!) for the Israelis is so huge that no amount of skills and courage can forever negate the immense superiority in means of the Israelis.

However, as most people in the West tend to forget, wars are but means towards a political goal. If the IDF decided to basically flatten Gaza and kill many thousands of Palestinians at the cost of casualties probably in the hundereds, then this would be politically suicidal for the Zionist regime. This is why I offer this very basic conclusion:

During the latest Gaza war, deterrence did work. But only in the sense that the Palestinians successfully deterred the Israelis from launching a ground attack against Gaza.

There is another crucial political development which should also be noted: while both Iran and Hezbollah did give their full political support to Hamas+Palestinian Islamic Jihad, the latter did not request any assistance. In other words, not only did the Palestinians defeat the Israelis, but they did so absolutely alone, with no help from the other Resistance members.

Again, those Zone A civilians who believe that Israel is scoring huge victories in Syria on a quasi daily basis won’t get it, which is par for the course. But you can be darn sure that at least most of the IDF top commanders know the true score and for them it is yet another huge disaster.

There is also a political factor to consider. While there have been coordination resistance actions by the Palestinians in Israel (proper, as defined by the UN), this is the first time when the Palestinians from Gaza, those from the Occupied Territories and those in “Israel” truly fought, if not side by side (yet!), then at least at the same time and in a common cause. This is a major political victory for Hamas+Palestinian Islamic Jihad and a major problem for Fatah and the Zionists. Now let’s look at the rest of the Palestinian scorecard:

The Palestinian scorecard:

Let’s start by the obvious one: the Palestinians were not defeated. This victory can be further subdivided in the following:

  • The Palestinian leadership has mostly physically survived, it still exists as a local authority. Plenty of Palestinians were murdered, but that did not affect the operational capabilities of the Palestinian forces (any more than the IDF succeeded in affecting Iranian operational capabilities in Syria).
  • The Palestinian leadership has also survived politically. It was not blamed by the “Palestinian street” for starting the war, nor was it blamed for how it executed it. As for Fatah, it is now, by all accounts, lost somewhere in a political no man’s land which, admittedly, it richly deserves for its incompetence, corruption and subservience to Israel and the USA.
  • Militarily speaking, the Palestinian missile strikes were not nearly as effective than, say, Hezbollah (nevermind Iranian!) strikes would have been, but, hey, they made huge progress and we can all rest assured that the Palestinians of Gaza will, sooner or later, catch up with the Houthis and, further down the road, maybe even Hezbollah.
  • By many accounts, Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad have made major political inroads into the Palestinian political scene outside Gaza. Even in spite of a truly immense hasbara effort by the Israelis, the international public opinion was blaming Israel for the orgy of violence.

It is interesting to note here that the famous Israeli journalist Gideon Levy has written an article for Ha’aretz entitled “Israeli Propaganda Isn’t Fooling Anyone – Except Israelis” which was further subtitled “’Hasbara’ is the Israeli euphemism for propaganda, and there are some things, said the late ambassador Yohanan Meroz, that are not ‘hasbarable.’ One of them is Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians.” This is how Levy’s article began:

And propaganda shall cover for everything. We’ll say terrorism, we’ll shout anti-Semitism, we’ll scream delegitimation, we’ll cite the Holocaust; we’ll say Jewish state, gay-friendly, drip irrigation, cherry tomatoes, aid to Nepal, Nobel Prizes for Jews, look what’s happening in Syria, the only democracy, the greatest army. We’ll say the Palestinians are making unilateral moves, we’ll propose negotiations on the “settlement bloc borders,” we’ll demand recognition of a Jewish state and we’ll complain that “there’s no one to talk to.” We’ll wail that the whole world is against us and wants to destroy us, no less.

Now comes the best part: Levy wrote this on Jun. 4, 2015 and updated it on Apr. 10, 2018 – years before the current disaster! Since then, things have only gone south for the IDF and the Israelis in general. Just the blowback from the war in Syria is, for the IDF, a true disaster.

Of course, “Israel” is still worshipped and faithfully served by many ruling classes worldwide (that is one of the functions of the Empire, to enforce this), but that officially lauded Israel is viewed with disgust and revulsion on most of the planet. Hence the inevitable failure of the truly galactic PR effort to brainwash the regular people into believing that Israeli is a polyyanish country, a “place without people for a people without country”, etc. etc. etc. This “Ziolatry”, if you wish, was effective when the PLO was blowing up Jewish grade schools in Western Europe, but today it has lost almost all of its traction, especially amongst thinking people.

The sad and disgusting reality about the Zionist entity is truly coming out, seeping under the propaganda walls of the Empire, and slowly but inevitably resulting in a common reaction of outrage and utter disgust for what is nothing else but the last officially racist country on the planet, the only country with an open air concentration camp it surrounds on all sides, the only country which truly, openly and sincerely does not give a damn about international law or about the lives of non-Jews (while calling their own lives sacred, of course!). This is a state which constantly repeats the mantra about the supposedly “sacred” blood of Jews while, at the same time, committing a slow motion (but very real) genocide of the Palestinian people while using non-stop terrorist attacks against any country daring to defy the order of the latest, and hopefully last, wannabe “superior race” in human history. This is also why the “crime of crimes” for politically correct and successfully brainwashed people is to declare that Israel has no right to exist. This is such a major crimethink that I want to conclude by committing it right now and asking others to join me in this “crimethink”!

Israel has no right to exist whatsoever first and foremost because it is an artificial creation of West European imperialist powers. Second, it is a country which has always engaged in atrocities and massive violations of international laws and norms. Instead, Israel is based on a racist ideology which is, for all practical purpose, indistinguishable from Hitler’s Nazi ideology (both National Socialism and Zionism have the same roots in both time, space and culture, both being products of European secularism and nationalism). For these reasons, Israel, and the Zionist ideology which supports it, are both a clear and present danger for international peace and stability (for details on Zionism as an ideology and its toxicity, please see here). Furthermore, the only possibly way for the Palestinian people to ever recover their land and their rights under international law is for the Zionist “regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time” (to quote the often mistranslated sentence by Ayatollah Komenei). By the way, this awareness also presupposes a clear understanding that the so-called “Two State Solution” (2SS) is an impossibility. Yes, I know, the 2SS is currently the only one under international law, but that is hardly surprising since the state of Israel was created with not only many of the trappings of “being an internationally recognized state” but also with the shameful complicity of the country which won WWII. There is one thing which Israel has in common with the so-called “Republic of Kosovo”: they will be the very first to be liberated as soon as the AngloZionist Empire finally crashes visibly (of course, it has already crashed, hence the many disastrous outcomes for the USA and Israel on the international scene, but that is still denied officially in Zone A and,of course, by the AngloZionist propaganda and those who pay attention to it.

In truth, there is only one true “solution” to this war: the so-called “One State Solution”, meaning that those who live in this land will get to choose their leaders and lifestyles according to the old “one person, one vote” principle. All other “solutions” simply perpetuate the current genocide!

As for those Jews who still want an ethnically pure state of Israel, they can either grow up and get real, or they can choose to colonize some other planet. As long as they don’t persecute local lifeforms, that might work. But if they do this will all happen again, over and over.

Conclusion: “Gaza” and the future of the Zionist entity

I want to end here with what I believe is a glance at the future (or lack thereof!) of Israel. The website Islamic World News Analysis Group (which I highly recommend!) recently posted what it claims to be a video of a new Iranian combat drone named “Gaza” described as so: “The Gaza drone, capable of carrying 13 bombs and 500 kilograms of equipment, as well as 35 hours of flight up to a radius of 2,000 kilometers, is capable of carrying out a variety of combat and intelligence operations. According to the published images, it seems that the Gaza drone uses the Rotary Bomb Launcher mechanism under its fuselage, which can carry up to 5 bombs. This is the first Iranian drone to use this mechanism. 8 bombs are also installed under the wings and in total this drone is capable of carrying 13 bombs”. Here is the footage of this new drone. Take a look for yourself and imagine what the next round of this campaign to liberate Palestine might look like.

• Category: Foreign Policy • Tags: Gaza, Hamas, IDF, Israel, Israel/Palestine 
Hide 291 CommentsLeave a Comment
Commenters to FollowEndorsed Only
Trim Comments?
  1. Lot says:

    “ West European imperialist powers”

    Spoken like an eternal loser who identifies with loser causes.

  2. SafeNow says:

    As I posted elsewhere, I think most people have sympathy for BOTH sides. If were a pollster, I would ask: You have 100 “support points” to assign. How many of your support points would you assign to each side? I think that even a quite fervent Zionist would say something like: 85 for Israelis, 15 for Palestinians. And vice-versa for a fervent pro-Palestinian. There would be many 60-40 people.

  3. anon[277] • Disclaimer says:

    Poor mischling who can never truly be Jewish.


    • Replies: @Leo Den
  4. Saker! Excellent! Not much more be said except that a major Israeli tell as to the condition of IDF is/was their failure in the ground war realm. Fact is, they don’t pack the gear to go head-to-head with anyone committed. Israel, like the jewish-run United States, allowed their jewish-owned defense contractors to shake them down for shitty, high tech, gee-whiz offensive systems with only nukes to move up to. But hey, they made a nice buck, heh. Look at them now. As we here in the U.S. now know, TACAIR will get a war started, but it can only be finished on the ground. And for that boys and girls you need balls. Their white collar IDF has none

    • Replies: @moi
  5. TG says:

    I must respectfully disagree. Hamas did not defeat Israel. Israel has continued to achieve its objectives, which for true professionals is what victory is all about.

    Israel has no intention of defeating the Palestinians in a set-piece battle. Israel only wants to contain the Palestinians, to prevent them from over-running Israel, and to limit their numbers by limiting their access to food and other resources.

    I do not see any way in which Israel has lost.

    And of course, Israel continues to have absolute political control of the United States and much of the rest of the so-called civilized world.

    I mean, at the end of the day, the Palestinians are still living in rubble, and the Israelis are still there are still powerful and still partying and making money and anyone who objects is a racist and fascist and Literally Hitler. Who really lost here, do you think?

  6. AaronB says:

    I agree. Hamas defeated Israel. Let this be repeated on the streets of Gaza and throughout the Arab world.

    I am extremely heartened that Hamas and the pro-Pal crowed see this a victory. If they are satisfied with this as a victory, then I support that 100%. In 73, Egypt defeated Israel. And there has been peace ever since. In 2006, Hezbollah defeated Israel, and the northern border has been quiet ever since.

    Now Hamas has defeated Israel, in 2021, and there will be peace on the southern border. I thought there would be another round with Hamas until they felt they did better. But it’s extremely good news that they and their supporters are describing this as victory. It means they think this is the best they will ever do – with which I agree. This is the end of the line for them.

    In the Arab world, “face” matters. We should give these poor people as much face as we can. The Arab world in general defines victory against Israel as putting up a reasonably decent fight before being defeated. That is an exceptionally generous definition of victory that we should be very happy they accept.

    So – let us all congratulate Hamas on its victory and help it feel good about itself, and then we can help the people of Gaza become prosperous.

  7. The recent fighting would have been a tie, until Israel decided to destroy nine high-rises in Gaza. This was obviously unneeded and they didn’t consider that these attacks might be recorded and posted on the Internet for the world to see. All this after recent peace and trade deals with some Arab Gulf states.

    The Greater Israel plan remains in play, but has stalled. It’s time to bring in the US military to finish off Syria, but first Russia must be threatened and punished until it stops supporting Syria.

    • Thanks: GMC
    • Replies: @James Speaks
  8. Alfred says:

    Spoken like an eternal loser who identifies with loser causes.

    How is the color revolution in Belarus coming along? 🙂

    I hear the organiser of this revolution is now being interrogated. He is spilling the beans on all his corrupt colleagues. What a shame!

    I guess all their money came from the “West European imperialist powers”. People like the British who have difficulty controlling their colony in Northern Ireland.

    As if anyone in Belarus gives a fig about these sanctions. They planned to murder Lukashenko and his family. Now, the BBC has the father of this terrorist moaning about the arrest of his son. What hypocrisy!

    EU agrees new Belarus sanctions after plane arrest

    • Agree: GMC
    • Thanks: Joe Levantine
  9. “Hamas fired many thousands of missiles into Israel.”

    How do we know this?
    Because Israel says so?
    Because the corporate media outlets say so?
    Because ZOG-controlled politicians say so?

    I don’t believe any of them.

    Nor do I believe that Gaza rockets (if any exist) are guided “missiles.”

  10. @SafeNow

    I would assign ZERO support points to the anti-Christian Arab muslims. Within the coming decade there will be no Arab Christians left in the Holy Land mainly as the result of the intolerant behaviour of moslems. Only the ignorant people in the West sympathise with the terrorist moslems.

    • Agree: Lot
    • Troll: Ann Nonny Mouse
  11. anon[768] • Disclaimer says:

    The Iron Dome.

    Seems to me an opponent could fire thousands of duds at such a system, with no more than a grenade-level explosion, interspersed with real missiles. Perhaps some duds under and in front of real ordnance.

    I dont think any missile defense system this side of God Almighty is gonna be impervious. One can fill the air fulla’ arrows and hit something. All countries, zone A, B, wherever, ought to be mindful.

  12. anon[770] • Disclaimer says:

    While the full Iron Dome air defense system probably works marginally better than the quasi-useless US Patriot,

    C’mon, you are supposed to be smart. Don’t write stupid stuff. Iron Dome is intended to defend against simple free-flight rockets in the style of the Soviet WWI Katyusha. Low altitude, ballistic trajectory. “Light fuse and get away”. It would be as pointless to use Patriot against those toy rockets as an S-300; both are intended for much faster moving objects.

    Given the parabolic arc of Hamas rockets, it’s likely easy to pick them up on radar just after launch, then again at altitude, and project out the likely landing site. Given terrain GPS mapped to a grid of half a meter or so, it is not at all fanciful to let some go if they are just going to drop in a vacant lot. Or maybe that’s not what the IDF is doing, and they just let some by, I don’t really know.

    It’s an open question what it would take to saturate the Iron Dome system. I’m sure Hamas rocket launchers kept track of how many they fired off at a time this go-round. Likely they’ll ponder the logistics for a while, and accumulate rockets in the mean time.

    It would be a more interesting event if another wave of Hamas rocket fire was directed into Israel while Remote Piloted Vehicles headed for the Iron Dome facility itself, flying maybe 10 meters above the earth. At the very least Iron Dome logically needs to be able to ‘see” with its radars, and crashing a drone into the antennae would impair that sensing.

    The brief war between Azerbaijan and Armenia, plus the little attacks on Saudi from Yemen show that damage can be done with relatively cheap machines. I’m sure the various Islamic factions are quite aware of this, I’m not revealing anything new.

    • Replies: @Rev. Spooner
  13. @Carlton Meyer

    It’s time to bring in the US military to finish off Syria, but first Russia must be threatened and punished until it stops supporting Syria.

    Your funny. Also delusional, but mostly funny.

    • Replies: @JM
  14. @Lot

    Dividing humanity into ‘winners’ and ‘losers’ is so Western, and so very, very, nassty. Look out for the Great Reversal of Fortune.

  15. @Alfred

    They need to rendition more of these traitors, get them to sing nicely about their Western Masters, then throw away the key for a decade or so. I doubt that this wimp would need more than a stern look in the way of ‘torture’ before he spills his guts. As for torture, the USA and Israel and a motley crew of Arab Wahhabist butchers, are the world champions.

    • Agree: Alfred, annamaria
  16. @AaronB

    It will always be a ‘victory’ for Zionazis like you, if sufficient goy children are butchered as offerings to your blood-thirsty God. Do you really think that the non-Western world regards you as anything but White, Western, settler colonial monsters?

    • Replies: @Marckus
    , @216
  17. The Palestinians have worked so hard for a negotiated settlement but the other side keeps rejecting their one simple and in their eyes quite reasonable clause…

    “Kill all the Jews.”

    • Troll: Alfred Muscaria
  18. idealogus says: • Website

    I think the problem is a little wrong view.
    There is a long talk of victory and defeat as if it were a decisive battle. But this episod is just a small skirmish at the border.
    The Arab-Israeli war of 1948 was a decisive one. If Israel lost it, it would disappear from history.
    Now let’s see who won this small border collision.
    Everyone had a win and a loss, but overall, I think Hamas came out on top.
    1) In previous fighting between Palestine and Israel, the Israeli army always enters Gaza and searches through houses. Israel has always presented as trophies Palestinian leaders dead or alive on television as war captures. In all wars, decisive victories meant capturing the leader of the enemy faction. Now Israel could present nothing. Israel did not have the courage to enter Gaza!!!
    He boasted that he had killed several Hamas leaders by bombing. Irrelevant, in the past their bodies would have been presented as war trophies on TV. Now Israel has regressed and is no longer capable of such a thing. The Arabs understood, the Europeans apparently did not.

    2) Hamas will soon be the undisputed leader of the Palestinians. Fatah has lost, and that means all Palestinians will be united under one rule. Serious problems for Israel.

    3) In terms of propaganda, Israel did not do very well, although it has 95% of the media at its disposal.

    4) The Palestinians cannot defeat Israel. The discrepancy in military power is overwhelming in Israel’s favor. But the mere fact that Hamas resisted and Israel was afraid to invade Gaza is a victory for the Palestinians.

    5) The Arab states that had begun to normalize their diplomatic relations with Israel (United Arab Emirates, Sudan, Moroccom, Bahrein) will take a step back and new ones will be hard to find. Israel missed another chance to divide the Arab world.

    6) If I (average guy with sedentary work) would fight with the heavyweight boxing world champion and after 20 minutes of fighting we would both be standing. It doesn’t matter that I received 10 times more punches than I gave but I am the winner of the fight.

    • Thanks: AnonStarter
  19. RobinG says:

    Someone asked, “WHERE is Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah ?”
    He’s been under the weather, but he made a speech Tuesday.


    • Replies: @Marckus
  20. Miha says:

    The world’s current divisions into countries are entirely the artificial creation of someone’s ‘ ‘imperialist powers’ at some point in the past. So how many other countries have no right to exist as you quaintly put it ? All countries are artificial. There is no ultimate right to exist on the part of any country. Rights are procedural. Move forward or backward one thousand years and take a look.

  21. Usual nonsense from the saker

    He’s totally wrong about Syria,his little five point excursion into Syria,refugees,etc,etc,is pure fantasy and factually totally wrong,if he’s so wrong about those things he wrote about,it’s a dead certainly he’s wrong about everything else

    After reading those five points about Syria i basically fell asleep because i knew i was in for the same old pro Russia/ Syria/ islamic Hamas blather,basically pro Russia anti American PSYOPS,although very crude

    • Agree: Alden
    • Troll: Ann Nonny Mouse
  22. Shue Arie says:

    Says the Loser himself.

  23. Max Payne says:

    I see we’ve hit the bargaining stage of grief.

  24. anonymous[139] • Disclaimer says:

    The Syrian state has survived, and its armed and security forces are now far more capable than they were before the war started

    One of these laws of unintended consequences whereby the outcome results in a bigger problem for the initiator. Remember, Hezbollah being what it is is the outgrowth of Israel’s invasion of Lebanon in ’82. Shia living in the south became refugees nothward due to Israeli actions and coalesced around Hezbollah for protection. They’ve grown since then. Gaza is different since they’re surrounded and can be periodically strangled. All this is not just Israeli policy, it’s American policy also. There’s no daylight between the two. The US provides the money and weapons and cranks up it’s propaganda machine to finesse this untidy business while the Israelis go ahead and do the grunt work.

    • Agree: Ann Nonny Mouse
  25. anonymous[122] • Disclaimer says:

    Israel continues to have absolute political control because Christians believe “Salvation is from the Jews.” Goyim (Gentiles) owes the salvation-mongering Merchants for their mortality-salience ameliorating narrative as Romans 15:27 demands, “They owe it to the Jews.” NATO policy, right in the Jewish authored Bible.

    • Replies: @LarryS
    , @Ann Nonny Mouse
  26. Polistra says:

    Exactly, and sadly. Wake me up when this old map is again current.

    • Agree: Old and Grumpy, Z-man
  27. meamjojo says:

    Hamas didn’t win anything. The IDF was socially crippled and forced to hold back due to all the bleeding hearts worried about the sub-human Palestinian’s. They should just level Gaza and get it over with.

  28. John Hagan says: • Website

    Universities in the US understand that Jewish equity studies have a higher academic appeal than trans-gender equity studies. Why do you imagie that here are 50 states in the US and 32 Holocaust museums, yet there are only 25 civil war museums. US population is 2% Jewish.

    • Replies: @Windwaves
  29. Sam J. says:

    “…But remember, the Israelis are first and foremost narcissists and they have no means of imagining how normal human beings think or feel. All these guys can feel is self-worship and hatred for all “others”…”

    I’ve been saying this over and over but I flat out call them psychopaths because that is their behavior.

    1. I can’t say that I know all Jews are psychopaths but I submit that a bunch of Jews moving into your territory can in no way be distinguished from a tribe of psychopaths moving into your territory. Whether the Jews are mostly psychopaths or not is irrelevant. The end effect on the country is the same as if they were. They are always involved in grandiose conspiracies, manipulation of people and comport themselves exactly like psychopaths.

    2. No one can live with psychopaths for long. Eventually people get fed up and try get rid of them in any manner they can.

    The only sure fire way to deal with psychopaths is to get rid of them and not allow them any say in your life at all. In all cases I’ve read about, getting rid of the Jews and kicking them out of your country has seen an immediate improvement in the welfare of the general population.

    3. The more power the Jews have the more ruthless they are. If they get the power to do so they will murder every single one of us. Every time they have gotten the power to do so they have immediately started torturing and murdering people as fast as they could. This track record is thousands of years long and can be counted on.

    This is important to realize because once you really understand this then predicting what they will do and how they will act becomes much easier.

    Being psychopathic has worked for well for them embedded in societies that are more civilized but in every society they go to there’s a limit. They can lie so well because they do not have empathy and have none of the shame response to be telling lies that normal people have. There’s a limit though in all the societies they parasite on.

    The normal people at first believe their tall tales of their persecution. A favorite psychopath trick. They may even excuse their behavior for a while but eventually they will ask themselves,”why will these people not reform themselves, why will they not behave in a decent manner”. Eventually they realize that they will never act in a manner of civilized humans and their compassion turns to rage at their constant hatred the Jews show all those they live among and their constant lies and corruption.

    The high point of the Jews has already been reached. The age of mass market communication is coming to an end and many are realizing that they are fed nothing but lies, confusion and gas-lighting. A great many of them have not yet seen that the Jews are the biggest player pushing this but a great many have. They are not happy.

    Many Jews know of this behavioral pattern. Maybe some do not but I wouldn’t care to bet money on it being a great deal of them. Theodor Herzl certainly knew about this. His fear was exposure to the Jews eventually would cause the extermination of the whole lot of them if they did not quit negative interactions with normal people.

    The actions and outcomes we see in Israel are a symptom of this Spath mind set in the Jews. Spaths have this problem that they have very little fear response and they have a very super overblown idea that they can continuously out talk, manipulate and out do anyone else. This gets them in trouble because with this attitude they are always pushing everything to the limit with no concern for blow back. We’re seeing the beginning of this right now.

    A big Jew committee met to see where they could go after they totally ruined the US and while I don’t know the outcome it was almost surely China. Unfortunately for them after they took a vast amount of the manufacturing from the US, stole many if not all our military secrets and sold them to the Chinese they finally found out that not everyone was like the, “let’s just get along Whites”. The Chinese let them know in no uncertain terms that they were not going to ruin China like they have western societies.

    So now they have no where to go. They’ve dramatically hurt the US maybe even fatally and in Israel proper their aggressive psychopathic behavior has made such enemies that I don’t think even if the Jews did anything asked of them they could never square the hatred they have fostered in the people around them.

    Some are even now trying to backtrack and slow down the immigration and destruction of the US. I think they see what I see as it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see the writing on the wall but I think things have gone to far for them to cover it up. 9-11 at the very least will never be forgotten.

    For all of you wondering what we should do the only thing that ever works with psychopaths is to get rid of them. Move them away from you. Let them have no say at a all in your lives or your country.

  30. gotmituns says:

    I wouldn’t say Hamas defeated israel, but they did discover how to make the jews look really bad around the world. It’ll be a long time before Israel can mend their fences now.

  31. Thank you, Mr Saker.

    I particularly appreciated your analysis of Israel/fukus/5Liars grade F in Syria as well as ongoing in Palestine. Despite attempted maskirovka by western Lügenpresse, which is reaching such frantic/hysterical levels as to be self-defeating.

    It will be necessary to press home to a satisfactory conclusion the dismantling of the Hyena, hopefully by peaceful means, for all residents and former residents of Palestine.
    There are many Jews who themselves would certainly assist.

    Zionist Jews have shown repeatedly over the last 70+ years of their murderous, cruel and thieving rule that they are incapable of common humanity. Rather than effect even mild reforms they have consistently displayed increased savagery.
    Enabled by a compliant western consortium of corrupt placemen.

    The fallout in the now failing west will be epic.

  32. Iran is quickly becoming that victorious underdog you can’t help but love to root for. In the white mythos we should replace Southerners with Persians, given that the corn fed goyim faggots did nothing but fight for Jewish power for the last century.

    • Agree: moi, Alfred Muscaria
  33. Andreas says:

    The sad and disgusting reality about the Zionist entity is truly coming out, seeping under the propaganda walls of the Empire, and slowly but inevitably resulting in a common reaction of outrage and utter disgust for what is nothing else but the last officially racist country on the planet,..

    Zionism is an expression of apex racism.

  34. Mr. Saker …. thanks for clarifying the ten goals of Israel. What are America’s goals for enabling what you consider Israel’s misbehavior?

  35. The way to Palestinian emancipation is a long, winding and treacherous road where the resistance, being in the north or the south of Palestine, will get some setbacks along the way. But, the essential factor that will decide the final outcome is which party to the conflict is willing to sacrifice the most, and in a final showdown with boots on the ground, it looks more evident that the resistance has the upper hand which explains Israel’s overwhelming dependence on air power. Still, the most decisive factor in determining the end of this century old conflict will be the longevity of the Anglo Zionist empire which is the sponsor of this anomalous state of Israel and its twin sister Kosovo as astutely mentioned by the Saker. Looking at the geopolitical map of the world, it is becoming more obvious every passing day that the balance of power and the momentum is shifting from the West to the East. When American neocons decide to go for a showdown against the rising Russo- Chinese alliance, their army of trannies brought up on political correctness will get its ass kicked well and hard after which IsraelIs have to adapt to living as equal citizens in a united Palestine under equal rights for all or pack and leave.

    As far as who won this round in Gaza, what I can say, without the slightest doubt, is that the Palestinians of Gaza have already lost everything and have nothing more to lose be it with a death toll of 250 or 250,000. It would be hard to declare victory against a people whose despair makes the difference between life and death rather irrelevant. As Gerald Celente of often stated “ when people lose everything and have nothing more to lose, they lose it”. Good luck for the Israelis cleaning their own mess.

  36. Schuey says:

    Saker Ive enjoyed your writing for a few years now after finding Unz listening to the Scott Horton Show. But lately Ive come to be more than a bit put off by it, not only the endless (!!!) that seem to find their way into your text but your demonstrable ill will toward Israel. I have no love for the state of Israel, they are an apartheid regime first and foremost. The settlers in the west bank and Jerusalem seem intent on Arab eviction. But sir, I can tolerate much anti state rhetoric, and Israel deserves much, but you border on the absurd lately on your jubilation of a war against defenseless people, even if the Palestinians “won” this war, there are no winners, just death. You are right to condemn the state of Israels actions but you seem to take joy in what can only be described as shooting fish in a barrel. Those poor people in Gaza maybe brave and have pushed back against Israel, but they lose hundreds each time to Israels few, and their cities destroyed, what victory is there in this?
    You seem to have picked sides in a war sir, and that I cannot condone, in any sense being pro “side” in a war even if it leads to some “positive” outcome in terms of the Palestinians defiance of Israel, is still a losing side for the dead and displaced.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  37. Yeah, the Zios have always been good at massacring defenceless people, that’s what their ideology is all about, but they are hopeless against determined fighters. The Zionist entity will be crushed in blood. Nil desperandum!

    • Replies: @annamaria
  38. @TG

    You write that: ‘the Palestinians are still living in rubble, and the Israelis are still there, are still powerful and still partying and making money’.

    That’s true. But the same can be said of the residents of Hanoi in North Vietnam (more bombs were dropped by the U.S on Vietnam than in the entirety of WWII – a disproportionate amount of that levelled Hanoi).

    And who emerged victorious in the end ?

    And so it shall come to pass once again as a wave of indignation sweeps citizens of the western countries and snowballs into a movement that topples Zionist political lackeys in the west and forces an abandonment of support for the Apartheid Israeli state.

    The court of public opinion has already decided that the Zionist tyranny must end.

    It may not happen this year or next, but it WILL happen.

    • Agree: Arthur MacBride
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  39. GMC says:

    Ya Alfred, this kid went from Hero to Zero in a matter of months. He probably got plenty of attention when he was hob knobbing around EU, but the party is over and he’s in the slammer for quite awhile , I suspect. I’m betting that , had the ” honest opposition” { if there was even one } stopped with the NGO protests and diplomatically started talks, even President Putin, may have been interested in what they had to say. But NGOs are only there for one reason – regime change for Nato.

    • Agree: Alfred
    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  40. Fake news hiding in the headline.

  41. Anonymous[661] • Disclaimer says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    “The court of public opinion has already decided that the Zionist tyranny must end.”

    It was very heartening to see protests against Palestine’s occupiers spring up all over the world. So reminiscent of anti-war protests that finally pushed the US out of Vietnam. I sense the tide is turning against the Jewish media cartel and its endless propagandizing.

    • Agree: annamaria
  42. I come from a family that was always traditionally, and to me inexplicably, pro zionazi. As far as I know, I am the first and to date probably only family member to break decisively with the zio worship. I did so at the ripe old age of 12, in 1982, when I could simultaneously look at a newspaper cartoon of then zio “prime minister ” Menachem Begin sitting on a pile of skulls and gnawing a bone while a silhouette of Beirut burned in the background, and listen to my father assuring me that “Syria is the villain”. The dichotomy was such that I decided to do some research for myself, and – even in those pre Internet days, at the age of 12, and entirely by my own efforts – I swiftly discovered that literally everything my family said about Palestine was a lie.

    Back then India’s stance was openly pro Palestine; it was before the neoliberal soft coup in the early 90s after the (engineered) murder of Rajiv Gandhi. Today the racist fascist Modi regime locks up people for pro Palestinian statements while Modi’s paid trolls online spread more fake propaganda against Palestine than the zionazis themselves do.

    See this, for example, or this, or this.

    • Thanks: Mustapha Mond, antitermite
    • Replies: @gotmituns
  43. @AaronB

    Ironically, I agree with your broader point that ‘Jews always win’ regardless of whether others win or lose. But the question is what they are winning, and this notion of victory is culturally conditioned.

    What I am now absolutely convinced of is, that at the deepest level of reality, ‘Jews always win’ in the material world. We are living in an entire reality that is itself completely dominated by merchant-type civilizations, like Jews or Carthage, rather than Rome. Regardless of what the Palestinians do, they are still puppets. The very existence of anti-Semitism is just another machination of the Jewish power centers, since they manipulate it for their own benefit — they turn anything negative into a positive. Anti-Semitism is simply a device to produce more Jewish unity; if the Palestinians vanished, Israel would be in danger of dissolution from internal conflict (orthodox vs. non-orthodox). But even then, they will find out some way out of it. Even if they get nuked, they have enough nukes to take the rest of the world down with them.

    I am not convinced that this is a ‘good’ thing, but it seems to be a fact. Throughout human history, the side with the higher levels of individual culture and heroism was always weaker, and has always lost. (See Hannibal vs. Scipio Africanus, Napoleon vs. Wellington.) ‘Higher culture’ is the greatest sign of weakness, since the stronger side are the professionals: those who devote themselves entirely to the ‘real world’ of compromises, not the imaginary world of higher action, faith, and invention. Jews specialize in the real world (itself deeply horrible), while Arabs, Germanics and others essentially hate this world.

    This is one of the great ironies, that Jews after the Great Revolt of 66 AD would be the cultural antipodes of their previous selves. The Hebrews of the Bible were, behaviorally and otherwise, the ‘Palestinians’ of their time. They did *not* compromise or try to manipulate world ‘systems’ (like the economy, media), but fought to the death.

    The West itself, which dominates the high-end of culture, was essentially extremely weak. If it did not luck out in discovering the New World, it would not have undergone any of the revolutions (economics, industrial) and would be entirely colonized by say the Ottoman Empire. No other culture was so dependent upon geographical vectors of expansion. The West is dying since it was deceived by its past achievements, and never understood how weak it was at the center.

    • Disagree: TheJamesRocket
    • Replies: @HeebHunter
    , @AaronB
  44. @TG

    All I see is the slow motion annihilation of the Gazans. The festering sore, another shameful provocation on Temple Mount. Justifiable Palestinian outrage and overreaction, followed by Israeli overreaction and propaganda whitewash. Yet another chapter of the same old story.

  45. @Joe Levantine

    The Gazans have been pushed into the position Afghans have been familiar with for centuries; they can be defeated, but they cannot be conquered. The latter is an infinitely more important thing. You can’t win one a people who never stop resisting, never back down, and whose methods mean that every move you make merely weakens yourself.

    • Agree: Joe Levantine
    • Replies: @Weaver1
  46. MLK says:

    If you’re a regular reader of The Saker and comments in response this overheated article is entirely explicable as him rebuilding some credibility with the anti-Israel crowd.

    All the relevant parties intended or were forced to distract from that which is salient. Iran is insistent that it receive its promised payoff tout de suite for its steadfast participation in operation Get Rid Of Trump. You don’t have to be all that bright to figure out what those terms are. Obama 3.0 will deliver a sweetened version of what was gifted previous. That means JCPOA, $100s Billions, and agreed upon set pieces designed to show the world that Iran humiliated the USG in the process.

    This explains why Iran pushed its Palestinian button and telegraphed that it would order Hezbollah would join in if its demands weren’t met in Vienna. Iran has “Biden” by the shorthairs. Their only constrained in what geopolitical gains they can extract by the other powers (e.g. China; Russia) who won’t let the Iranians ruin a good thing.

    Those of you who believe that Israel is the tail wagging the US dog should consider that Israel was just subjected something akin to what failed Ukraine was — professions of “unwavering support” that rather obviously are anything but.

    Watch the Netanyahu/Blinken news conference. No questions allowed and it’s clear as day that Netanyahu was told what time it is. Netanyahu even squeaked in opposition to “the old JCPOA” so we see how they squared the circle. The “new” JCPOA will include some meaningless provisions so Netanyahu can climb out of his tree. Apparently he’s getting to stay in power and thus out of prison as recompense.

  47. Anonymous[708] • Disclaimer says:

    As always you have those that love the Jews and bow down to them, and on the other side those who detest them, but one thing is for sure you mention Jew and the whole troll factory will come marching out singing the same old song.

  48. I kept thinking of this guy when I read this article:

    Which bearded man is the Saker’s Daisy Ridley?

  49. @AaronB

    In a certain way Aaron is right and The Saker wrong. The Country won because the only purpose of the war was to kill civilians, and this is something that The Country has a lot of experience doing.

    But the other side of the story is that they could kill far less civilians than the last time (2014). And the reaction against the massaker was much stronger. Opinions in the US are changing because even a complete idiot understands the evil nature of the occupation. The banality of evil isn’t functioning so well as in the past. And this is bad for The Country. The original population of the country never lived well since the occupiers came with all possible kinds of resources to be used against them, money, guns, support. But they are still there and resisting. Victories of The Country put it in a more difficult situation.

    Aaron forgets that there is peace with Egypt only because The Country gave back the Sinai. And there is peace with Lebanon because The Country left Lebanon after being forced to leave it.

  50. @TG

    An obvious fact is that “absolute political control” can fall apart overnight. Political control is dependent, not on the saturation of the media, but on the acceptance of the media narrative by the populace.

    What good is the loudly repeated lie when it is rejected by most of those being subjected to it?

    • Replies: @sally
  51. Some noteworthy takeaways from the latest conflict …

    1. Israel deliberately deceived the media to execute a military operation and was exposed for it.
    2. Israel destroyed the AP bureau (in al Jalaa tower) hot on the heels of the first lie.
    3. Zionists tried to shift the blame to AP, culminating in the firing of an American AP reporter who had nothing to with al Jalaa tower.

    However much Israel tries to worm its way out of this particular succession of facts, the record undermines it credibility yet again — and this time, the exposure is much greater. Even Israeli officials who hold that Hamas had offices in al Jalaa have expressed regret over the decision to bomb it, acknowledging it as a grave strategic error:

    All Israeli PR can be explained by the Talmudic axiom ‘yad ha’goyim tikifa aleinu‘ (when the Gentiles predominate). Israel has to walk a tightrope, balancing between the aim of crushing the Palestinian spirit and protecting its image abroad, and, in the age of modern tech, where everyone with a cellphone becomes a freelance journalist, it’s getting mighty windy on that high wire.

    As such, the lie that Israel always warns everyone to evacuate a building before they demolish it is easy enough to debunk. We know they do this sometimes as a PR maneuver to paper over other demolitions where this is not so. That ruse is now exposed.

    Israel’s de facto control of the narrative among mainstream media has been its biggest asset to date. Yet in this latest conflict, reportage and images beyond the mainstream significantly influenced mainstream coverage, whether directly or as an extreme response to a reality now impossible to conceal. Social media such as Facebook and Instagram did their utmost to protect Israel’s facade, but significant cracks in the edifice were exploited, and it’s not going to get any easier to maintain that image in the weeks and months ahead.

    Let there be no illusions: Israel remains powerful and it will, for the foreseeable future, continue to inflict harm upon Palestinians. Poll numbers still show a large percentage of Americans still support Israel, yet there is cause for hope in those same numbers:

    In the “Mideast Sympathies” category, Israel has lost 6 percentage points since 2018 and this year, while Palestinians have gained as many points in the same time period. In the “U.S. Pressure to Make Compromises” category, Israel gained 6 points while Palestinians lost 7.

    Most importantly, this poll was conducted *before* the latest conflict.

    The change we want to see isn’t likely to occur overnight. It’s incremental, and it’s happening as we speak. As the Turks say, “Damlaya damlaya, göl olur.

    Drop by drop, you get a lake.

    • Replies: @Niebelheim
  52. gotmituns says:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    The Mahatma didn’t go for the jews lies. He told them so in the 1930s.

    • Thanks: Alfred Muscaria
    • LOL: InnerCynic

    Hamas leader thanks Iran for supplying weapons to Gaza

    It is funny that EGYPT with its Islamist army helps Hamas to smuggle Iranian weapons into Ghaza and then Al-sisi sits around the table as a peacemaker and gets the recognition that he didn’t deserve from President Joe Biden. What does that mean ? America is being led by incompetent people.

  54. @MLK

    I’m still waiting for a single one of the Faker’s prognostications to come true, about anything.

    • Replies: @MLK
  55. This article reminds me of the story about a bar fight, where one guy was bragging about how he smashed the other guys fist with his nose.

    There is no win possible in such a situation. There are only losers. That the Palestinians have held on and are continuing to resist Israeli aggression is commendable, but they’re not winning anything by getting many of them killed. Just as it’s not smart to throw rocks at a bear, it’s not smart to hurl primitive missiles at the Israelis who have real weapons systems and the will to retaliate. Don’t bring a knife to a gun fight.

    Palestinian ‘leadership’ isn’t worth spit. They should be getting capable weapons from any source possible if they want a violent confrontation. Given Israel’s intent to swallow up all the lands surrounding it, a violent confrontation is probably the only option. Just do it smarter than getting innocent people killed because some gung ho asshole decides to piss off the Israelis.

    • Agree: Realist, Alden
  56. The allegedly antiwar and pro free speech The American Conservative is one outlet that will refuse even to mention the events in Occupied Palestine because to do so would require it to at least implicitly criticise the zionist entity. Its senior editor/owner (not sure which) recently write an article from Budapest supporting Orban’s refusal to permit immigration from West Asia, not because of the usual demographic arguments, but because Muslim immigrants create anti semitism in European countries they migrate to.

    In response I put this comment:

    What is this word “antisemitism “? Why does it not apply to the slow motion genocide of Semitic Palestinians in Gaza, the world’s largest ever concentration camp?

    Absolutely unsurprisingly, it did not make it through moderation.

    • Disagree: moi
    • Replies: @moi
    , @Begemot
  57. Marckus says:

    Israel defeated Hamas, Hamas defeated Israel, It was a draw……….. blah bah

    When the Raker writes a 3500 word essay, it awakens suspicions that were fast asleep. In days gone by an army was victorious when some or all of the following were generally accomplished:
    >the enemy army was routed or destroyed
    >the enemy leaders in exile, killed, in jail, committed suicide.
    >the enemy country and capital reduced to rubble or razed
    >the victor becomes the new ruler in part of or in whole of the enemy’s territory

    Wake my from my slumber when Hamas has accomplished all of the above or visa versa. Otherwise, what the Flaker has to say is bunk !

  58. Marckus says:

    Its the old story. The leader of the vulgar rabble always exhorts the mob “Lets get them Lads”.

    Only when the action starts said leader seems to be “missing” . Later we generally hear that he was directing the struggle from a safe place or he was under the weather.

    Its a common tactic that the cannon fodder Palestinians never understand. THEY bleed for the cause while Hassan chills in his bomb proof bunker with his flunkies and concubines in attendance.

    When the action is over, Hassan makes speeches, declares a new flock of martyrs for Allah, consoles the families of the slain and then forgets all about them. For all intents and purposes they were expendable pawns ! They were useful while alive but damn nuisances now.

    In defence of this fellow I must say though, he is no different from any other world leader.

    • Agree: RoatanBill, Rogue
    • Replies: @MEexpert
  59. onebornfree says: • Website


    same old story- two wholly criminal organizations [governments] as always involved in the lifeblood- the very “business”necessary to their continued existence: that is, WAR, or, more accurately, what someone once described as “the eternal war for for eternal peace”

    [And by the way, as with all other governments, neither side really gives a flying fuck about their own citizen casualties.]

    A reminder: This “just” in:

    “Taking the State wherever found, striking into its history at any point, one sees no way to differentiate the activities of its founders, administrators and beneficiaries from those of a professional-criminal class.” Albert J. Nock

    “Because they are all ultimately funded via both direct and indirect theft [taxes], and counterfeiting [central bank monopolies], all governments are essentially, at their very cores, 100% corrupt criminal scams which cannot be “reformed”or “improved”,simply because of their innate criminal nature.” onebornfree

    “Regards” onebornfree

  60. Ron T, says:

    I don’t see Israel losing any time soon as long as Zionist Jews virtually control the United States through media, politics and finance.

    If you see how they managed to turn around the disastrous PR debacle (from Israel’s point of view a few hundred dead Palestinian children is just a propaganda failure as the life of a non-Jew is worth less than an ant) into an “antisemitism crisis”, you would conclude that they are truly omnipotent: they can portray an apartheid racist supremacist state as the victim of the people it has been systematically dispossessing for 73 years, and the Jews in the US who support this carnage as “victims of antisemitism”.

    As long as Zionists control the discourse in the US and Arabs are divided, Palestine is doomed, so no, despite your optimism, I don’t see a way out for the people of the region out of their misery imposed by the Zionist state, anytime in the foreseeable future.

    • Replies: @ImaBotKnot
  61. Israel and it’s mossad wing Hamas won the battle, which was not a battle, the Palestinians were only armed with rocks, this was a sham battle to genocide Palestinians and destroy what little infastructure is left in Palestine.

    The Times of Israel reported that Netanyahu was cooperating with Hamas, The Wall Street Journal on 1-24-09 how Israel spawned Hamas, and the Washington Post reported on 7-30-2014 how Israel helped create Hamas, there are many more reports like this, Hamas is a wing of the Mossad.

    • Agree: Mevashir
    • Thanks: InnerCynic
  62. Marckus says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Mumbo Jumbo, be respectful to AaronB. His people already control the CCP so in a sense you, as a Chinaman are already an accessory to their nefarious activities. President She is already in their back pocket nestled among and snuggling with those shiny Shekels.

    Dont you see ? China beats Moslems…Israel beats Moslems……Hence Israel + China = Homies

    You have to be extremely young, naive or incredibly stupid to believe that anything in this world is black or white as you hope or would like it to be.

    You also have to be nice to Whitey. What with Joe’s Parkinsons, those shaky fingers might accidentally hit the Red button. Also be good to Blackie, they are your most immediate threat.

    You guys are kind of boxed in, contained so to speak, politically, militarily and socially. In the coming years you will have a lot more to worry about than Aaron. Mao killed 67M of his own people so mathematically the Zionazis and Whitey still have a long way to go.

    By the way, as a matter of interest, why do you still live in the USA ???????

    • Replies: @Ed Case
  63. anonymous[144] • Disclaimer says:

    No doubt about what side you are on.

  64. Israel is based on a racist ideology which is, for all practical purpose, indistinguishable from Hitler’s Nazi ideology (both National Socialism and Zionism have the same roots in both time, space and culture, both being products of European secularism and nationalism).

    Um, no.

    What is it with the compulsion to claim “zionism is bad because Nazi —.”

    Zionism is sui generis.. It is its own, specific and peculiar form of social threat that traces its “roots” directly to Jewish mythos, perceived experience thru history, and, as Ron Unz has detailed, to Jewish Talmudism and centuries of reinforcement of specific and identifiable psychopathologies.

    Zionism began to emerge in Russia – Europe before Hitler was born. [see i.e. The Haskalah Movement In Russia]; the two ideologies could not be more different “in time, space and culture.” A stronger argument is that National Socialism was a defensive action to the inroads of “Talmudism” and zionism on German “time, space and culture.”

    If you can’t make a strong case for whatever it is you are arguing, Saker, reconsider the facts instead of relying on reductio ad Hitlerum. In the quoted statement, you got the facts totally wrong.

    • Thanks: annamaria
  65. MLK says:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    I’ve found The Saker a worthwhile read on Russia/Putin. Like so many, he shit the bed on Trump. Though we should cut him some slack since the smart bet beginning in 2016 was that the global anti-Trump alignment, basically anyone who was anybody, would destroy him.

    The Saker has crassly tried to appeal to the anti-Israel claque. Trump said of the lovely AOC and her Squad “They’re never happy.” Boy, if that isn’t true for the commenters here with a bee in their bonnet over The Jewish State.

  66. @alwayswrite

    You keep repeating “the Saker is wrong wrong wrong” but you don’t give any reasons to show why he is wrong.

    Why is that?

  67. Leo Den says:

    The world will be truly at peace when Apartheid Israhell is no more. Western Jews propping it will have a fit. Oh well…

    • Replies: @Druid55
    , @lydia
  68. @AnonStarter

    No, you don’t get a lake if the frequency of the drops doesn’t exceed the rate of evaporation.

    • Replies: @AnonStarter
  69. The Saker forgot to include in Israeli goals the one that Bibi lives to rule another day. Will the last Israeli election even matter now?

  70. moi says:
    @Jim Christian

    The sociopathic Siamese twins (US-Izrael) only attack those who militarily are weak–but neither is prepared to sacrifice its in own blood in any great measure.

    • Replies: @Jim Christian
  71. moi says:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    Sorry, I meant to click “Agree.”

    • Replies: @Jim Christian
  72. sally says:
    @Twodees Partain

    I think you may have the wrong definition of the “fact”, it should be defined not as “absolute political control” because politics suggest the governed of the nation state have some say in the design, operation and outcome result. The long standing propaganda tries to get its followers to believe the political system within each nation state, has the say in how the nation state behaves, but the facts seem different.. The political system has little to do with the design, operation or outcome.. the nation state system is managed in much the same way that franchisor manages it franchisees. It is that global management(franchisor) that that has the final say.. and that global say does not include any consideration or inputs from those who are the governed.

    The global nation state system is an oligarch franchise, its owners operate outside of the political systems which are operational within each nation state, instead the global franchisor dictates and the local nation state franchisees each must adjust their internal operations to accommodate the command given from the global franchisor. Completely hidden from view, but in plain sight, are those who command.

    The political system within the nation state operates like the complaint department in a department store, its there to pacify its shoppers, but not to be the agent of change in store operations. but I do agree within a nation state the political system is tenuous.. because politicians must balance the demands of the Oligarch against the needs, wants and hopes of those the nation state govern.

    Saker has not yet adopted control of the nation state system to be by, of, and to pertain to the cause that he so well analyses, but most of what he says, implies it.

  73. moi says:
    @Juda Ben Hur

    You are projecting your own demented views on to others. Unlike Israeli Jews, Palestinians call out for freedom, not the killing of Jews. TROLL!

  74. Vojkan says:

    As counter-evidence to the assertion that the latest bout in Palestine ended with a Hamas victory, the hasbara brigade brags about body counts and the fact that Gaza remains a big open-air konzlager. I think my understanding of the concept of intelligence is definitely at odds with the Jewish one.

    The Saker mentioned the “Republic of Kosovo”. The Albanian usurpers in Kosmet have eagerly supported in official statements the right of Jewish usurpers in Palestine to “defend themselves”. Birds of a feather flock together.

  75. VICB3 says:

    Let’s do a thought experiment:

    Suppose you were able to set up a cordon sanitare around Israel/Gaza/West Bank/Sinai et al. Some sort of super-duper force field say, such that nothing and no one gets in or out. Air and water can pass through, but that’s about it. No covert shipments, no tunnels, no outside communications whatsoever, no internet, no radio from outside the force field. The populations are left only with the resources that they have at hand, including whatever native abilities they might possess. They are completely isolated. They have only each other.

    Let us suppose further that that cordon sanitare was set up to last, say, for 100 years – 3 or 4 generations. At the end of that 100 years, the super-duper force field suddenly drops. What would an observer/explorer observe in this heretofore completely isolated bit of real estate? What would the people, culture and economy be like? What would their 100 year history be like?

    Don’t answer it. Just think about it.

    That’s you’re one state solution for you, but only if there is no outside interference.

    And I suspect that’s the only way it would ever work.

    Just a thought.


    • Thanks: SafeNow
    • Replies: @Anon
  76. @GMC

    But NGOs are only there for one reason – regime change for Nato.

    Absolutely! NGOs are enemy foot-soldiers in plainclothes, hostile agents, saboteurs and spies, and they should be treated as such.

    • Agree: GMC
  77. R2b says:

    I hope I’m wrong, but there is some Orwellian echo in this.

  78. For a superior race Jews certainly are ugly. I really can’t think of a more physically revolting group of people on the planet. They think they blend in but once you learn to recognize them they really don’t. Even with all that plastic surgery you can still tell.

  79. Weaver1 says:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    The Israelis could win but only if they gave up US financial aid. They cannot.

    Israel wants to drive out the Palestinians, but public opinion will not allow it. Similarly, the US could have fought more brutally in Afghanistan. Things are possible, but thankfully they are not done, for fear of public opinion.

    Imagine the horrors if public opinion no longer mattered. “Where there is a will, there is a way;” but at what cost?

  80. The Tu-22M3 planes are in Syria as a warning to Israel not to attack Iran. They are not there to threaten ships or to fight the terrorists. Those are nuclear bombers.

    • Replies: @Alfred
    , @Alfred
  81. @Niebelheim

    You’re obviously not paying attention.

    But … Go on with your bad self. I’m sure that’s the secret weapon that wins most wars: cynicism. Must be.

    In the meantime, another blow dealt against the usual suspects:

    US: Georgia court rules anti-BDS legislation unconstitutional

    A federal court in the US state of Georgia ruled that a law created to discourage the Palestinian-led Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement was in violation of the First Amendment, making Georgia the fifth state to have such legislation struck down after Kansas, Arizona, Texas and Arkansas.

    In a ruling that was issued on Friday, District Court Judge Mark Cohen rejected efforts by Georgia officials to dismiss a lawsuit from Abby Martin, a journalist that has uncovered human rights abuses at the hands of the Israeli government.

    The lawsuit was filed by Martin to challenge the state law after her appearance at a public university in Georgia was cancelled because she refused to sign a contract that included a mandatory oath that she would not boycott Israel.

    “Even assuming that Georgia’s interest in furthering foreign policy goals regarding relations with Israel is a substantial state interest, Defendants fail to explain how Martin’s advocacy of a boycott of Israel has any bearing on Georgia’s ability to advance foreign policy goals with Israel,” Cohen said in his decision.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  82. J says:

    Gaza has no industries no significant agriculture. About 70-80% of the population is not working just consuming (including the massive number of children). So how they survive? Charity.UNRRA – paid by American taxpayers – pours billions each year. The rich Gulf Arabs are very generous. It happens that under President Trump the incredible generosity of America was reduced, having understood that the current system cannot go on forever, and after 70 years of parasitism, it is time to wean them off. The HAMAS did what always does when international donations are drying up and attacked Israel inviting the antisemitic international media to document the cruelty of the Jews and to fake pictures of crying babies. It worked wonderfully: the money is now flowing again to Gaza, again HAMAS leaders are filling their pockets and donations are coming to rebuild Gaza and its tunnels. Probably, Israel will be forced to rebuild AP offices too.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  83. bayviking says:

    In order for human civilization to progress diplomacy must replace military action. Israeli violence is a public relations disaster. However, we should not pretend that Israel has suffered greater material losses than the Palestinians. Just like the USA, Israel possesses significant advantages regarding firepower. With this they can win many battles, but never a war, as the USA has learned painfully. To win the war you must capture the moral high ground. Israel has been stealing land for almost 75 years. Unprovoked military violence will never enjoy popular support.

  84. Let’s separate grain from chaff. There is a huge difference between the wars in 2006 and 2021. In 2006 Hezbollah actually defeated IDF, forcing it to withdraw from the occupied chunk of Lebanon and abandon its local proxies to their fate. In 2021 Hamas did not win militarily. Neither did IDF. It was a draw: one side with lots of courage and inferior weapons, other side with lots of weapons and inferior courage. What Palestinians won was the PR campaign. Despite shamefully pro-Israel position of Western governments and lugenpresse controlled by the same cabal, there were huge demos all over the world against Israeli policies of genocide and ethnic cleansing. Yet Israel did not stop actions that precipitated this crisis. It did not stop enforcing its apartheid law that real estate can be sold by an Arab to a Jew, but any real estate that ever belonged to a Jew cannot belong to an Arab. This law is the basis of planned eviction of several Palestinian families in East Jerusalem from their homes. Israel did not withdraw IDF from Al-Aqsa mosque, who desecrated it and opened fire on worshippers. By killing numerous women and children in Gaza Israel demonstrated once again that it’s a terrorist entity, but those who did not know that already are probably hopeless. Israel once again showed its true colors for all to see, but it was not a win for Hamas on the ground.

  85. Anon[189] • Disclaimer says:

    Two primitive tribes fighting an ancient and endless war over a tiny patch of blood-soaked sand.
    A war neither side can decisively win or lose.
    Both sides fatally entrenched, unable to stop and unwilling to give an inch. Inextricably under the spell of bone deep hatred that defies explanation and requires no justification. Perpetual war between Israel and Arabs is like the speed of light. It just is.
    You’ll have to explain to me one more time why I give a f**k.

    • Troll: Druid55
  86. Larry47460 says: • Website


  87. Anna Baltzer is a Jewish-American woman who in travels in Turkey, Iran etc was given hospitality in various locations, sometimes by Palestinian refugees who had been driven out of their ancestral homes and land by her fellow Jews.

    She didn’t believe what she heard at first.
    She thought it was “propaganda” …
    So she went to see for herself.
    This is her account.

    • Thanks: Alfred, Peripatetic Itch, Nancy
  88. LarryS says:

    Christian Zionists are deluded but you omit verse 26 “For Macedonia and Achaia were pleased to make a contribution for the poor among the Lord’s people in Jerusalem.”

    Paul was taking up a collection for the Jewish Christians as there was a famine.

    The English word ‘Jew’ was coined in 1775. In the OT Hebrew the word means from the tribe of Judah. In the NT Greek it means Judean.

    Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and even Moses were not Jews, that is from the tribe of Judah. Jesus was a Galilean, not a Judean. However, Jesus was from the tribe of Judah which fulfilled the prophecy that the Messiah would come from the tribe of Judah.

  89. @idealogus

    Good points.

    I particularly liked this one:

    3) In terms of propaganda, Israel did not do very well, although it has 95% of the media at its disposal.

    I suppose that if your frame of reference is restricted to the American MSM, you might not draw this conclusion, though it’s certainly true if we incorporate the comprehensive media sphere. It’s obvious that Americans have shifted more to online news sources, which increases the likelihood of exposure to perspectives outside the mainstream.

    6) If I (average guy with sedentary work) would fight with the heavyweight boxing world champion and after 20 minutes of fighting we would both be standing. It doesn’t matter that I received 10 times more punches than I gave but I am the winner of the fight.

    Palestinians really have little choice when Israel continues to provoke them as it does, so they’ll continue fighting, with or without Hamas.

    Cliche as it may sound, Palestinians have been down so long, the only way is up. That’s what some pessimists here just don’t seem to understand. If they imagine that Israel is going to be able to sustain this situation into the indefinite future, they’re delusional.

    Israel’s manic struggle to control the narrative in America betrays desperation. The anti-BDS crusade just lost another legal battle in Georgia and will lose in each and every state where those unconstitutional laws have been enacted. Charges of anti-Semitism as a cover for Israel’s crimes are losing their punch. The Muslim American population is nearly at parity with that of Jews, and Muslims are just beginning to wet their feet in the political landscape.

    Nothing is given, of course, but those who can’t keep faith won’t keep much of any value.

    • Replies: @Arthur MacBride
  90. Agent76 says:

    May 21, 2021 Israeli Party Leader: Hamas is a Strategic Asset

    The P.A. is a liability and Hamas is an asset. On the international playing field, in this game of the delegitimization think about for a second, the P.A. is a liability and Hamas is an asset.

    May 18, 2021 Message from Gaza massacre survivor Riyad Eshkuntana TRT TV, 18 May 2021

  91. I’d suggest you look up the Norwegian Refugee Council,they have website,and their latest report,

    ‘Syria,another decade of crisis on the horizon expected to displace millions more’

    Or,if you prefer you could look up The Tahrir Institute of Middle East Policy

    Last year they wrote that,” as of 2020, the number of voluntary returns has dwindled to a record low”

    Tahrir also have a website

    Syria is basically a divided country

    Or perhaps you could try The Middle East Institute,they also have a thing called a,website!

    and an article written by Anton Mardasov,”Is Russia prepared for an open- ended conflict in Syria? ”

    Or you could stay in your cognitive safe zone,up to you,over and out

  92. @AnonStarter

    Agreed AS.
    There is also the possibility/probability that rank and file Jews will increasingly see that the grotesque horror show cannot and indeed should not go on.

    Already that is happening with Neturei Karta eg, individual Jews here on UR, Jewish Rabbi’s sitting in the Iranian Majlis etc.

    Personally I believe that Jews will come to view “rivers of blood” zionism (Rabbi Weiss) as the worst thing that ever happened to/in Judaism.
    They will cast it off as the abomination it is in my humble opinion.

    The other aspect is what will happen as increasingly more people in the west perceive that their countries have been systematically wrecked by the zio parasite ?

    What future for the lickspittle placemen that give standing ovations to Bibi ?

    • Replies: @AnonStarter
  93. Worth watching.

    Wilkerson has it correct. Israel cannot survive for long given its attitude towards others.

    At some point, the US political class will realize that they have to let Israel fend for itself. The Dollar is losing its purchasing power as well as influence and subsidizing Israel is becoming less palatable. At some point the US will abandon the Middle East as it needs resources to try to contain China and Russia. The US will fail, accelerating the demise of the US economy in the attempt.

    • Thanks: Agent76
  94. @anon

    As I have been saying, the garage variety is going to catch-up with the Raytheon ones. A $100 or $1000 for one, against a $100,000 one made by Ratheon or Boeing.
    Tech and DIY can make most playing fields level.
    Israels nuclear arsenal will remain unused and like S Africa’s nuclear tech, will be dismantled by the big powers.
    There will be much gnashing and grinding of teeth and much wailing and weeping when this happens.

    • Agree: Alfred
  95. @SafeNow

    I have sympathy for the innocent and clueless non-combatants. I no long have sympathy for the zionists. They are far far worse than anything that’s claimed against the Nazis. They’re complete blood thirsty psychotic hypocrites. I hope Iran cleans their clocks.

    • Agree: Druid55
  96. Notsofast says:

    the hypocrisy of the west is astounding. they conveniently forget about mahar arar who was flying from tunis to canada but was seized at jfk during a lay over and sent to syria to be tortured for a year before the syrians said he was innocent. he was given a multi million dollar settlement by the canadian govt for their part in his kidnapping but the u.s. refuses to even apologize. they also forget about snowden and meng wanzhou as well as the forced landing and search of evo morales presidential jet.

  97. Daisy says:

    Interesting article, however it should be noted that Communism and Zionism were born of Jews in Russia.

  98. @Charles Martel France

    Typical Hasbara Zio Bollocks.

    (just one example of Christian/Muslim unity)

    As Eid begins, Palestinian Muslims and Christians unite against violence and displacement.
    The sour stench of skunk water still lingered in the morning air. A metal barricade, surrounded by Israeli police with guns strapped to their chests, blocked the entrance of the Sheikh Jarrah neighbourhood. On the streets, confrontations between Palestinians and Israeli settlers erupted every few hours.

    “The Christian Palestinian people are all together as a partnership with the Muslim families in Sheikh Jarrah,” the Archbishop Theodosios of Sebastia from the Greek Orthodox Patriarchate of Jerusalem said during the visit.

    “We are against the Nakba, and now another Nakba is happening in Sheikh Jarrah,” he said, referring to the forcible displacement of several Palestinian families from their homes in Sheikh Jarrah so that Israeli settlers can move in. He compared today’s events to Israel’s 1948 ethnic cleansing campaign of Palestine (also known as the Nakba) and when Israel annexed East Jerusalem in 1967. This Saturday marks the 73rd anniversary of the Nakba.

  99. @Anon

    Two primitive tribes fighting an ancient and endless war over a tiny patch of blood-soaked sand.
    A war neither side can decisively win or lose.

    Israel is going to lose this. They just made too many enemies.

  100. Well, is it true or not that Israel wiped out about 25 top Hamas Leaders and rocket makers in a tunnel???? but again you have to look at this as the Black Hidden Hand wants all this fighting and arms both sides in every conflict and like 9/11 sets up false flags as to who is really doing the evil deeds…. again how do we know it was actually real Palestinians firing rockets and not some mostsad/mostbad/mossad controlled Hamas operatives, or some Egyptian infiltrates working for Israel firing those rockets? Interesting

    Edwin Black was on GB today 5/26/21 as first guest…. So my take on the Farhud is that just like WW2 it was probably set up by the hidden hand, the Banking Powers to force Jewish people to move to Israel…… Remember Pikes plan for 3 World Wars. Seems to be lots of hidden British involvement just like WW2 and the Rothschilds kinda financing all sides on WW2 and the stuff that went on in the Middle East. Remember the top rich “Jews” ???? wanted Israel for Albert Pikes Plan for 3 World Wars.

    Everyone should read Controversy of Zion by Douglas Reed – Read it please do.

  101. @ProudGermanic

    Even if they get nuked, they have enough nukes to take the rest of the world down with them.

    I pray every day these kikes launch the first nuke. Please, dear God Almighty, make that happen. It is all we need to send these demons to a real Holocaust.

  102. @Juda Ben Hur

    Keep pushing it. With the collapsing economies nobody gives a fuck about muh Holohoax.

  103. Sirius says:

    The main lesson one can draw from this latest chapter of the Palestine conflict is that the Palestinians asserted to the world: “We’re still here, and we’re ready to sacrifice for our cause”. Therein lies the victory.

    It is not a battlefield victory per se, but a moral one. As long as there is the courage to confront superior Zionist firepower, Palestine wins. And eventually this morally corrupt and illegitimate entity called “Israel” will lose on the battlefield as well, though that may take some time.

    • Agree: AnonStarter
  104. Anon[264] • Disclaimer says:

    They are completely isolated. They have only each other.

    The peoples on each side of the barrier would develop even more distinctly separate cultures based upon the unique requirements for survival imposed on the former. Were the barrier suddenly dropped, resumption of former conflicts would likely ensue.

    It is the reason that prisoners released from incarceration must go through a period of supervision during the process of reintegration into the dominant culture. If anything, the conflict between the two parties would be worse.

    • Replies: @VICB3
  105. @Arthur MacBride

    Thanks, Arthur.

    Yes, we’ll all have to adapt to the changing landscape. We’re talking long term here.

    I’m not exactly certain how that might happen, but it must. The AJC has already begun to form partnerships with Muslims in an effort to advance hate crime legislation, though that’s an objective to which I am firmly opposed. It would be better to see an interfaith coalition that includes Christians and does not pander to an agenda of universalism that would have us homogenize all faiths into a singular mass of mealy-mouthed, platitudinous drivel — a coalition that, at a minimum, respects religious sovereignty and finds common cause in the institution of family-protective mores.

    Member communities do not have to agree upon everything, but at least they can work to protect federation rights to religious liberty, which is under constant attack in America.

    • Replies: @Nancy
    , @Anon
    , @anon
    , @anon
  106. @idealogus

    The Palestinians do not require a “knock out” punch against Israel to win.

    Instead they can use (and are using) the same tactics that the ancient Helots used against the famed Spartan state; that of wearing out the state and forcing the state to maintain a military doctrine that is completely hobbled by the fact of their occupation of the surrounding Helot warrior-farmers.

    Despite the Theben defeat of the Spartans on the field and the 2 Peloponnesian Wars with Athens, the Spartans were primarily defeated by their occupation of the Helot lands. As a result, they could not deploy military forces in the preferred numbers to more distant areas as well as only deploy for a limited time.

    This Helot constriction of Spartan war-making was what in the end weakened the Spartan state in its wars with its neighbors.

    The Palestinians are primarily doing the same with Israel; wearing the Israeli state out. And one can see from the massive sociological changes in Israel over the years that the Palestinian Resistance is doing a far better job on their end…

  107. barr says:
    @Charles Martel France

    “large section of the Indian population for Israel’s bombing of Gaza until the 11 day war came to an end on May 22. Several hashtags were trending that hailed Israel’s action against “Hamas terrorists”. And tweeting in support of Tel Aviv were not only common people, the professed supporters of Modi, but also some lawmakers of the ruling party, the BJP or Indian People’s Party.

    One of them is the BJP Member of Parliament Tejasvi Surya, known for his rabid anti-Muslim rhetoric. On May 12, he tweeted: “We are with you. stay strong, Israel.”

    The tweet was liked around 49,000 times and retweeted nearly 12,000 times.


    Similarly Gaurav Goel, BJP spokesman from the northern Indian city of Chandigarh, was regularly tweeting in support of Israel and all his posts were being liked and retweeted in large numbers.

    “Today, tomorrow and always in “future” we stand with Israel and its citizens against terrorism [sic],” Goel posted on Twitter.

    In another tweet he called on Israel “to show no mercy”.

    “I support Israel, not terrorist groups like Hamas. I request Israel not to show any mercy towards the terrorists”.

    BJP leaders and activists were the reason that the hashtags such as #ISupportIsrael, #IndiaWithIsrael, #IndiaStandsWithIsrael and #IsrealUnderFire were trending in the country over the last week.

    Though there was a hashtag #IndiastandswithPalestine too, the support for it was subdued. In the Muslim-majority, Indian-administered territory Kashmir, the government detained pro-Palestine protesters, including a religious leader who prayed for Palestine during Friday congregation and a graffiti artist who painted a mural scrawled with words ‘We are Palestine’.

    The pro-Israel slant was visible in major sections of India’s largely pro-government media. Sudarshan, a rightwing television channel known for no-holds-barred anti-Muslim programming, aired a graphic depiction of missile attack on Masjid an-Nabawi – one of the holiest houses of prayer for Muslims located in Madina in Saudi Arabia – in its show ‘Bindas Bol (Telling it as it is)’ on May 15 hosted by its rabble-rousing editor Suresh Chavhanke.

    Sudarshan channel enjoys a wide following among India’s large rightwing constituency that forms the base of Prime Minister Modi. This base is fundamentally responsible for Modi’s continuing political invincibility, something that appears to withstand even the mayhem unleashed by ongoing pandemic. And it is this constituency that is at the forefront of the support for Israel. So much so that when on May 15, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu expressed his gratitude to foreign governments for supporting his country in the ongoing clashes with Hamas and included emojis of flags of 25 countries except India, this upset India’s social media users, many of whom pleaded with him on Twitter to include India’s flag too in appreciation of their solidarity with Israel.”

    India love affair with Israel

    India is afraid of Christianity

    “Ramdev’s aide Acharya Balkrishna accuses IMA president of conspiring to convert India to christianity

    Balkrishna in his Tweet said, “As part of the conspiracy to convert the entire country into #Christianity, #Yoga and #Ayurveda are being maligned by targeting @yogrishiramdev jee. Countrymen, wake up now from the deep slumber otherwise the generations to come will not forgive you.”

    • Replies: @anonymous
  108. Alfred says:
    @splitting the atom

    The Tu-22M3 planes are in Syria as a warning to Israel not to attack Iran. They are not there to threaten ships or to fight the terrorists. Those are nuclear bombers.

    These are long-range planes that can be refueled in the air. They can fly at Mach 2. Israel is only a short hop away from the Russian airbase in Syria. To intimidate Israel, there is no need for these planes.

    Anyway, Hezbollah and Iran have Israel well-covered with highly-accurate rockets – a great number of them. There is absolutely no need for nuclear weapons to wipe out Israel – hence the pressure by Israel on the USA to add rockets to the nuclear agreement negotiations.

    • Agree: Jazman
  109. annamaria says:

    “They should just level Gaza and get it over with.”
    — Sure. Under the banner of St. Anne Frank and St. Leo Frank.
    Zionists’ violence against American schoolchildren: “Anne Frank Introductory Lesson in their lessons about World War 2”
    The truth:

    In 1980, as a result of a lawsuit in a German court, the German state forensic bureau forensically examined the original “diary” manuscript. The analysis determined that “significant” portions of the work were written with a fine ballpoint pen. Fine ballpoint pens were not available before 1951… The report did not attempt to measure the authenticity of the diary as a whole, only if the pages were written at the time they were claimed to have been. Earlier handwriting experts had already determined ALL of the writing in the “diary” was the same hand. Hence, the “diary” was a postwar construct.

    The ignominious origins of the ADL:

    Mary Phagan Was Raped and Murdered by Leo Frank of B’nai B’rith on April 26, 1913

    What was never revealed at the trial was that one year before Mary Phagan was raped and killed, Frank raped and in the process, viciously bit another one of his child employees who conceived a child by him and was despatched to a home for unmarried mothers as a result of their brief but illegal and one-sided liaison. Frank was actually a sadistic pedophile whose case has been used as a stick for more than a century to attack, defame, slander, libel and generally hold to ransom, ordinary American non-Jewish ‘white’ citizens. This is the man that the Jewish community lied about and is used by the Zionists, as their ‘martyr’ to anti-Semitism.

    The conviction of Leo Frank was the impetus for the formation of the Anti-Defamation League of B’nai B’rith in October 1913, after the 500-member strong Atlanta branch of B’nai B’rith voted unanimously on 24th September 1913, to re-elect their ‘wrongfully imprisoned’ President, Leo Frank to a second term as their leader. Frank ran the affairs of this B’nai B’rith chapter behind bars until September of 1914 but was not re-elected for a third term.

    It is the tribally-affirmed indecency that has been destroying the Jewish communities in those countries where Talmudists (and modern-day Zionists) got too much influence. Israel is nothing but a supremacist theocracy ruled by thoroughly corrupt personages like Bibi (see his idiotic progeny:

    • Agree: Druid55
  110. Ed Case says:

    Mulga lives in Australia, he’s not an Aussie tho, you got that right.

  111. annamaria says:

    The Zionist entity lives by hatred towards various Amaleks. Talmud in a nutshell:

    Happy is the one who takes your babies and smashes them against the rocks!

    • Replies: @Kapyong
  112. Israel fights on. Without the United States, Israel would have been obliterated years ago. Now she has some 400 Nuclear War Heads and uses these to blackmail all her neighbors. Imagine that. A country the size of New Jersey with 400 Nukes….stolen from America. Imagine the fear of such an angry, hateful metastasized regime.

    As I often state. Without the Zionist control of US Media and US Congress, Israel would not live today. There is a weakness though. Israel is a house of cards built upon a very weak foundation; “A Giant with Clay Feet”. That weakness is her complete reliance on the Holocaust Hoax as her justification for existence.

    The way to defeat Israel is to defeat and fully expose the Holocaust Hoax. This supposed Jewish suffering is pounded over the head of all of humanity. The Holocaust HOAX enslaves all of humanity and Unites all Jews. We are guilted into helping Israel. We are subordinated to the Supposed Jewish Suffering. The Jews have stolen the Moral High Ground using their Holocaust LIE. The Jews themselves believe this HOAX and send billions to help their only country. The Holocaust is their Religion. The Holocaust is their collective screech of Anti-Semitism.

    Expose this MASSIVE HOAX and the world becomes Appauld and Disgusted by the Jew. All Jews will flee Israel and Israel will become a leprosy colony. US Funding ceases. Every country duped out of Billions in Holocaust Reparations will be knocking at the door of Israel.

    AIPAC and the ADL and all the other Zionist Lobbying groups will be firebombed. Expose the Holocaust Hoax and 9/11 will be exposed, the Holocaust Industry will be exposed, the Zionist Control of US Media comes to an end. And America will finally be free to address Palestine with humanity. Any US congressman or woman will immediately DENOUNCE Israel and embrace

    The worldwide Hate Speech Laws prohibiting Historical Investigation of the Holocaust will be overturned. The real machinations of WWI and WWII will finally be openly discussed. The Allied War Crimes will be on full display. The Jewish invention of Marxism, Bolshevism, Communism, and now Zionism will be on full display. All of Planet Earth will be Freed from this destructive cancerous HOAX.

    History repeats because the truth is never revealed, people of an era die off and their manufactured lie pollutes the next generation. The world is inverted by this cancerous lie. History is distorted and adulterated by this cancerous lie. It must be exposed and defeated.

    • Replies: @Badger Down
  113. annamaria says:

    “About 70-80% of the population is not working just consuming ”
    — Your hasbara is thin: “Israel closes off Gaza sea to Palestinian fishermen”
    “Israel accused of ‘war crime’ over bulldozing of Palestinian olive groves”
    The zionists’ “humanitarian interventions:”

    Palestinians in the Occupied Palestinian Territories (OPT) and those living in annexed East Jerusalem are governed by Israeli military law (IML). Israeli military law allows a maximum administrative detention period of six months, subject to indefinite renewals, as well as the interrogation of children without lawyers or family members present. Ninety-seven percent of children detained did not have a parent present nor did they have access to a lawyer during their interrogation. The lack of legal representation and independent oversight of the interrogation process means there is no protection against the mistreatment of child detainees.

    If you are so sensitive about parasitism look no farther than Hasidic communities in upstate New York.” The Takeover Of Upstate NY By Satmar Hasidics:”

    The Hasidic are very arrogant with the local population in Upstate NY. People living near and in Kiryas Joel are persecuted and taxed to the hilt due to Hasidic. … The Hasidic have their own schools and ambulances and police forces but these services are paid for by the town.

    “Jewish Orthodox Welfare Fraud Is Massive:”

    To the extent that there is welfare abuse within the Hareidi community, one may ask, what makes it systemic? The answer is simple: the various Hareidi community councils (BP, CH, Willie, etc.) actively encourage and assist community members to sign up for every welfare program available. Now, it is true that many of these individuals were eligible for the programs at the time they signed up, but as their income grows, they become ineligible. However, once a Hareidi individual with little secular education is dependent on government welfare, he will be reluctant to give up welfare benefits.

    And this is precisely the Hareidi communities’ game plan from day one. In other words, the community consciously regards the government’s social safety net — food stamps, Medicaid, WIC, Section 8, etc. — as part of their budget, not as a last resort for a few struggling individuals. Every year, hundreds of Hareidim get married with the intention beforehand of relying on government welfare to make ends meet.

    Add to that $3.8 billion per year for the Jewish State residence.

    • Agree: Mevashir
    • Replies: @Mevashir
    , @anarchyst
  114. bayviking says:

    You make it sound like its an even playing field, between opposing teams, which is utterly ridiculous.

    • Replies: @Anon
  115. Avery says:

    {“…. sub-human Palestinian”}

    Assuming you are Jewish/Israeli (and not a troll pretending to be one), not very smart to say something like that: not too long ago certain delusional cult thought of others as Untermenschen.. You know very well what the end result of that was.

    And if delusional, messianic Israeli nuts* could get away with it, they would have done it already: they know they can’t.

    [Radical Orthodox Jews stab photo of murdered Arab baby at wedding ceremony (VIDEO)]

  116. anon[174] • Disclaimer says:

    I think militarily, you can’t help but think Israel won this confrontation, at least judging by the number of casualties on either side and the amount of property destruction.

    But Israel may have won the battle and lost the war. The lopsidedness of casualties and weapons have done irreparable damage to Israel’s image around the world. Anti-Israel protests broke out all over Europe, North America and even Australia. Only in Jew heavy NYC did you see some pro-Israeli demonstrations, elsewhere it’s been a totally one-sided pro-Palestinian affair. Israel is now seen as the big bully and oppressor. This war has also exposed the cravenness and corruption of our politicians and showed the world who is really in charge of the Western world. It’ll take a long time, possibly never, for Jews and Israel to repair their standing around the world.

    I used to think that it’s good for the Jewish people to have a homeland, but now I think Israel is the root cause of all the Jews’ as well as the world’s problems. As long as it exists, Jews everywhere will be coerced/enticed into supporting it and will always be suspicious of “dual loyalty”. It’s passed time to end this project, hand it back to the Palestinians, and free the Jews the world over from this bondage.

    • Agree: Mevashir
    • Replies: @Mevashir
    , @anon
    , @Uncle Sam
  117. Israel-Gaza: Pilots bombed Palestinian buildings to ‘vent frustration’, says report

    A number of Israeli pilots spoke anonymously to Israel’s Channel 12 about their experience in the latest offensive on the besieged Palestinian territory

    Israeli air force pilots’ bombing and flattening of Palestinian residential towers in the besieged Gaza Strip in its military offensive earlier this month was a way to vent their frustration for failing to stop Palestinian armed factions from firing rockets into Israeli towns, according to an Israeli TV report.

    A number of Israeli pilots spoke anonymously to Israel’s Channel 12 last week about their experience flying warplanes over the Palestinian enclave during an 11-day military campaign that ended with a ceasefire on Thursday evening.

    In total, Israeli air strikes killed 248 Palestinians in Gaza, including 66 children, between 10 and 21 May, and wounded 1,948 others, the Gaza health ministry has reported.

    Nine high-rise buildings were flattened to the ground by Israeli air strikes, including al-Jalaa tower, which housed the offices of numerous media production companies and news agencies, including the Associated Press, Al-Jazeera and Middle East Eye, drawing condemnation from media and human rights organisations.

    “I went on a mission to carry out air strikes with a feeling that destroying the towers is a way to vent frustration over what is happening to us and over the success of the groups in Gaza,” one Israeli pilot told Channel 12.

    The pilot, identified as Major D in the report, added: “We failed to stop the rocket fire and to harm the leadership of these groups, so we destroyed the towers.”

    Israel has said that Palestinian armed factions in the Gaza Strip had launched almost 4,000 rockets, which killed 12 people and injured hundreds in Israel, before a ceasefire was reached at 2am local time on Friday.

    The Egyptian-brokered ceasefire was declared between Israel and Palestinian factions in the Gaza Strip, including Hamas and Islamic Jihad.

  118. Anon[189] • Disclaimer says:

    Where did I say it was an even playing field?
    Please be specific.
    I’m not responsible for your personal interpretation of my comment.

  119. Support for Israel among young US evangelical Christians drops sharply — survey

    NEW YORK — A new survey points to a growing divide in the US between young evangelical Christians and their elders, particularly in their views on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, indicating Israel could see a significant drop in support in coming years.

    While the religious group has long been a bulwark of support for Israel in the US, the Barna Group-administered poll commissioned by researchers at the University of North Carolina at Pembroke indicates a sharp drop in support for the Jewish state and raises concerns that Israel could lose a key ally going forward, its authors told The Times of Israel on Monday.

    The poll was commissioned as part of their research for an upcoming book on the issue.

    In a poll of over 700 evangelical Christians between the ages of 18 and 29 that was conducted between March and April, respondents were asked where they place their support in the “Israeli-Palestinian dispute.” Just 33.6 percent said with Israel, 24.3% said with the Palestinians and 42.2 percent said with neither side.

    This marked a significant shift from 2018, when 69% young evangelicals — responding to another survey conducted by UNCP professors, Motti Inbari and Kirill Bumin — said they side with Israel, 5.6% said they sided with the Palestinians and 25.7% said they didn’t take either side.

  120. Ellinas says:

    It is not only Giraldi who said the same but is Saker too.
    Eeeeer is Tobias Lagoon and so may others who are saying and writing that izrael is a terrorist nest and this cancerous tumor needs to be surgical removed from the side of the Earth.

    Where is Shlomo?
    Hey Shlomo are you busy donating there?

  121. Mevashir says:

    This article really seems impressive but in the end it’s just a mountain of camel dung. It proves the old adage that there is a saker born every minute!

    Israeli newspapers are openly writing that Netanyahu has been supporting Hamas for years as a way of dividing the Palestinians and preventing the emergence of a Palestinian state. For their part Hamas did Netanyahu a gigantic favor and possibly insured his continuance in government when he was on the verge of losing control.

    The Palestinians behave themselves because the Americans pay them a lot of money to do that. Now that Hamas has acted up they will get a big infusion of American money as well. The only people who lost are the American public whose money is being flushed down the toilet of Middle Eastern despotic politics.

    While Netanyahu Abbas Hamas are laughing themselves all the way to the bank.

    Maybe they will pay saker a commission for helping to perpetuate their gigantic game of deception?!

  122. 216 says: • Website
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Western settler colonialism was and is good, and this principle shall not be questioned.

  123. Mevashir says:

    I used to think that it’s good for the Jewish people to have a homeland, but now I think Israel is the root cause of all the Jews’ as well as the world’s problems. As long as it exists, Jews everywhere will be coerced/enticed into supporting it and will always be suspicious of “dual loyalty”. It’s passed time to end this project, hand it back to the Palestinians, and free the Jews the world over from this bondage.


  124. Mevashir says:

    When I lived in Jerusalem a respected Rabbi once told me that the Hasidic groups in New York state sell drugs and run brothels as a way of bringing money into their communities. Exactly as they did in Weimar Berlin in the 1920s that so provoked the Nazis.

    There is a long-standing joke in the Jewish community that the word FRUM — which is Yiddish for pious — stands for:

    Foods Stamps
    Rent Control

    But the real villains are the New York State officials who wink at this fraud and also permit the Jewish schools to avoid teaching secular subjects or holding their students to State educational standards.

    These corrupt politicians are paid off by Jewish voting support for their candidacies and probably a lot of dirty money into their bank accounts.

  125. anarchyst says:

    I agree with you in principle…israel should “light one off” and bear the consequences. As israel’s mossad was successful in pulling off the destruction of the WTC and blaming it on Islamic “terrorists”, one American military general in the know remarked that “if the TRUTH ever came out about WTC 911, israel would cease to exist and nobody (in the world) would give a damn”.
    As to israel’s nukes, there is a reason that israel refuses international inspection of its facilities.
    Israel’s nukes are already in place in various key population centers around the world and would not be available for inspection.
    As such, no delivery systems are needed.
    If israel’s “nose is tweaked” look for ((them)) to “light one off”, Rome being a prime target. Paris and Brussels are also probable European “targets”. Here in the U S A, look for Chicago, Los Angeles or Atlanta to be “prime targets”. (J)New York City is “off limits” because of the large jewish population.

    • Agree: HeebHunter
    • Replies: @HeebHunter
  126. anon[301] • Disclaimer says:

    I think militarily, you can’t help but think Israel won this confrontation, at least judging by the number of casualties on either side and the amount of property destruction.

    Limited thinking. Hamas continues to exist as a force-in-being, rather like many guerrilla forces over the last 200 years. That’s their victory condition, to continue to exist. The fact that the IDF did not commit troops onto the ground in Gaza is significant.

    The US won every major battle against North Viet Nam. It also lost the war.

  127. anarchyst says:

    Please look up Kiryas Joel, New York. This community, among other “jews-only” communities openly flouts “civil-rights”, “fair housing” and other anti-discrimination laws with impunity and gets away with it. If you are not jewish, forget purchasing property, establishing a business, sending your children to the ((jews-only)) “public schools” or establishing residency.
    These same jews utilize taxpayer funds such as welfare and EBT benefits at a much higher rate than that of normal non-jewish citizens in surrounding areas.
    You see, this is a blatant example of the “double standard” that exists here in “the good ol’ USA. “Civil-rights”, “fair housing” and “anti-discrimination” laws are bludgeons used against whites and do not apply to jews who are “chosen”. Jews openly support (and use “lawfare”) to enforce civil-rights laws against whites while doing just the opposite for themselves.
    “Multiculturalism and diversity for thee, but not for me” is the jewish mantra.

    • Agree: Mevashir
    • Replies: @AnonStarter
  128. Incitatus says:

    “We could say that in this war, the Palestinians defeated both military high tech and truly medieval type of genocidal hatred.”

    Right! When’s Netanyahu scheduled to sign surrender documents? Presumably in tails and top hat at Al-Aqsa?

    “Israeli air defenses are clearly at least a generation behind the Russian ones, including the S-300s the Russians sold to Syria”

    Doubtless effectiveness is over-stated (defense contractors protect their food chain). Yet Israel routinely (illegally) flies into Syria to bomb ‘terrorists’ de jour. When’s the last time an Israeli jet was shot down?

    “just like the Lebanese in 2006, the Palestinians of 2021 are not afraid of the Zionists anymore”

    That’s great!

    Fear? The de-limbed Black Knight in Monty Python’s ‘Holy Grail’ had no fear. Lot of good it did him.

    Israel: population 8.8 million, GDP $363.448 billion ($40,145 per capita); GDP Growth Rate +3.28%; inflation 0.8%; unemployment 3.81%; Population in poverty 22%;

    Lebanon: population 5.2 million, GDP $53.253 billion GDP ($14,552 per capita); GDP Growth Rate +1.5%; inflation 2.8%; unemployment 9.7%; Population in poverty 27.4%;

    Gaza: population 1.96 million, GDP $2.938 billion GDP ($6,220 per capita); GDP Growth Rate -15.2; inflation 0.2%; unemployment 27.9%; Population in poverty 30%;

    Lesson. The author’s rose-colored glasses (wish he was right) block reality.

    This criminal fiasco had everything to do with Netanyahu preserving domestic power, little more. Piles of ruin and dazed Gazans are election ads (paid by the State of Israel, not by Likud). Meanwhile dispossession and removal of Palestinians in Jerusalem will likely continue (especially in the courts). That’s the real objective.

    If Palestinians wanted to scare the hell out of Likud, they’d sue for peace and demand an internationally brokered settlement headed by the US (putting both parties at loggerheads). No doubt Bibi would find another ‘terrorist incident’ to shut that down.

    • Agree: Mevashir
    • Replies: @MEexpert
  129. PJ London says:

    Well written piece.
    But it spent too much time on the battles of little consequence.
    Israel cannot exist without the unwavering support of the west (USA and Europe).
    Israel has very successfully completely suborned the political class in both.
    The people of the west, brought up on Exodus and Anne Frank had supported Israel entirely until around 2000.
    Since then any blog or article critical of Israel was attacked by the hasbara and no publication would touch it.
    A funny thing happened in 2021. Around the world and I mean everywhere, the crowds came out for Palestinians not Israel.
    The attacks in the social media was entirely anti Israel.
    Even the media made some half hearted criticisms.
    And most importantly, the Hasbara were silent.
    They have been discounted and even if someone genuinely believed in the Israeli cause he would be completely ignored as an influencer by 99.9% of the populace.
    Israel has lost, they have lost the hearts and minds of the whole world.
    They will continue for a while as a country, US will become less and less attached and the rest of the world will escalate the criticisms and trade will die as China and Russia take the lead technologically.
    I may not see the demise of Israel, but my grandchildren certainly will.
    The thing that should petrify the Jews worldwide is the revenge that is stored up across the world and will be released when Israel is defeated.
    You supported this shit and now the time has come for repayment.
    Remember that there were no “Good Germans”.

    • Thanks: Nancy
    • Replies: @Druid55
  130. Nancy says:
    @Juda Ben Hur

    Maybe everyone should adopt, per E. M.Jones, the Roman Church’s former policy: “Sicut Judias Non” (no one may harm the Jews) but no Jew may be allowed to subvert Christianity nor Western culture.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  131. Jewish Power is the biggest in the US that dominates the world. So, of utmost importance is the need to restrain Jewish Power.

    To do this, we need to identify Jewish influence.
    For instance, if the media spread lies, don’t just mention the ‘media’ or ‘msm’ or whatever. We need to point out, ‘the Jewish-controlled media’.

    As long as we blame only the media, Jews don’t care and carry on with their nasty ways because THEY don’t get the blame. Blaming only the media is like blaming only the military following an attack or invasion. Imagine following Pearl Harbor, Americans said, ‘fighter planes’ attacked Pearl Harbor without mentioning WHOSE planes they were. They were Japanese!
    All nations have militaries, and so, what really matters is WHOSE military did the attacking. When Germans invaded Russia, Russians didn’t say ‘Tanks invaded us’. But whose tanks? After all, Russians got tanks, Germans got tanks, UK got tanks, US got tanks, etc. They were GERMAN tanks.

    If someone shoots you, you don’t just say, ‘gun shot me’. What really matters is who held the gun and who pulled the trigger?

    So, just saying ‘big tech’, ‘media’, ‘finance’, or etc. won’t do anything to curtail Jewish Power or make Jews think twice about doing bad stuff. They know they will never get the blame because only the instruments of their power will get the blame. Imagine a Jew hits you with a bat, and you name the bat but not the Jew who used the bat. Of course, Jews will say that naming the user of the bat is ‘antisemitism’, but enough already. We must name the culprit.

    One thing for sure, if Christian Evangelicals controlled media and finance and used them to hurt Jews, Jews would mention the EVANGELICAL control of media and finance. Indeed, Jews went on endlessly about how WASPS controlled everything.

    Don’t just name the instruments of power. Name those who use those instruments.

    After all, when someone gets run over by a car, the real concern isn’t over the car but the driver.

    In crazy US, Jews name and blame RUSSIA for what it didn’t do, like rigging the 2016 election. But we are not supposed to name the Jew even though Jewish Power is behind most hideous things in the West? Nuts. Even BLM is a tool of Jewish Supremacist Power.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  132. Turk 152 says:

    After having spent the past week listening to Israeli and Palestinian chat rooms, I realized that the average Jews are the most brainwashed people on earth. They have no clue what is happening in their own country and the antisemitism charge is just a pre-programmed trigger that makes them reject whatever they hear whenever a topic gets uncomfortable and crashes their world view; Jew hatred plays right into that programming. Gaza is literally a concentration camp in which the mere accusation of terrorism by a Palestinian will results in a 100% conviction rate in prison as well as having their family home blown up. Jews who spend every minute recalling tales of the Holocausts, have no idea that they have become the Nazi prison guards who are only looking after the Fatherland. My favorite line from the chatroom was “Does a Nazi prison guard have the right to defend itself?” – ha, ha, ha. You dont see that taking place anywhere on earth unless you count children soldiers out of Africa. The average Jew is not a diabolical genius manipulating the world for their own benefit, but is more akin to a moronic member of the Branch Davidians cult gushing down whatever Kool-Aid their corrupt, psychopath leaders and billionaire oligarchs feed them.

    • Agree: annamaria
  133. If Palestinians wanted to scare the hell out of Likud, they’d sue for peace and demand an internationally brokered settlement headed by the US (putting both parties at loggerheads).

    I believe I’ve seen this picture before: You Can’t Have Your Swiss Cheese and Eat It.

    Amusing film if dark satire is your thing.

  134. Nancy says:

    Again with the Grange Motto:
    “In essentials, unity;
    in non-essentials, freedom;
    in all things, charity.”

    And, btw, ‘anti-semite’ doesn’t work when we realize the vast majority of Jews are of Ashkinazim, i.e., Kazar, i.e., Turkic, origin. I believe the Palestinian DNA is overwhelmingly of semitic origin.. ?

    • Replies: @AnonStarter
  135. Anon[264] • Disclaimer says:

    The AJC has already begun to form partnerships with Muslims in an effort to advance hate crime legislation, though that’s an objective to which I am firmly opposed. It would be better to see an interfaith coalition that includes Christians and does not pander to an agenda of universalism that would have us homogenize all faiths into a singular mass of mealy-mouthed, platitudinous drivel . . .

    Hate Crime = Thought Crime

    So, why would you want a spayed/neutered Christian Church to further debase itself by aligning itself with faux ‘monotheists’ in a dialog?

    • Replies: @AnonStarter
  136. Kapyong says:

    “Happy is the one who takes your babies and smashes them against the rocks!”

    Which also ends the Bible Psalm 137.

    A popular psalm about the Rivers of Babylon, but the last verse is rarely read out – it sure didn’t make the cut of Boney M’s version.

  137. anon[395] • Disclaimer says:

    Not sure what a “suicide drone” is, since it’s just a machine with no human on board, but Hamas has already been using them with little to no effect.

  138. @Anon

    So, why would you want a spayed/neutered Christian Church

    A straw man makes good kindling.

    Not much else.

  139. @Sam J.

    Good comment, but I wouldn’t be so quick to write off the Tribe’s influence in the Middle Kingdom:

    The Chinese let them know in no uncertain terms that they were not going to ruin China like they have western societies.

    Huh. Let’s see how (((Larry Fink))) and his BlackRock/ Fed/ Treasury cabal are doing in China these days:

    • Agree: Alfred Muscaria
  140. anonymous[194] • Disclaimer says:
    @Charles Martel France

    Your attempt at showing concern for Arab Christians is laughable.

    The whitevil pagan godless albinoni**ers don’t give a rat’s ass about Arab Christians. For such rabid racist scum like you, they are as much sandni**ers, as the muslims there.

    You can give your 100% support to the judenscum, but they will continue to machinate the slow-genocide of your evilisation.

    Enjoy the blowback, you soul-diseased vermin!

  141. @Nancy

    with the Grange Motto:

    At best, lodgecraft institutionalizes form and ritual. Substance is another matter altogether.

    And, btw, ‘anti-semite’ doesn’t work when we realize the vast majority of Jews are of Ashkinazim, i.e., Kazar, i.e., Turkic, origin. I believe the Palestinian DNA is overwhelmingly of semitic origin.. ?

    Even if Jews could trace their origin back to Palestine, the “anti-Semite” smear is, these days, typically baseless.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  142. VICB3 says:

    Respectfully, I think that you misunderstood. I meant that the Arabs and Jews of Palestine are forced to live together and with absolutely no interference or contact with the rest of the world. Kind of like sticking them on a smallish habitual planet in another solar system and then forgetting about them for a century or so. No outside help.

    Would there be a caste system? A melding of Islam and Judaism? A mutual extermination? What? What would the first explorers to recontact this isolated culture discover?

    Hope this helps!

    Just a thought.


  143. @anarchyst

    Rome being a prime target. Paris and Brussels are also probable European “targets”. Here in the U S A, look for Chicago, Los Angeles or Atlanta to be “prime targets”.

    Synanogue of Satan, Faggotcity, Faggotcapital, Land of the jews, Chimpcongo, Spicland and Wakanda.
    So, how can I set off these nukes? Anyone?

  144. MEexpert says:

    You don’t understand the art of warfare. Hasan Nasrallah is the backbone of Hezbollah movement. They need him in a safe place so that he can hell to IDF. Hasan Nasrallah lost his son in a war with Israel. How many did Netanyahu lose?

    Netanyahu didn’t even lose a hair. His son busy making money using his father’s influence. Where was Danny Gantz? He was going to incinerate Hamas while sitting in a safe bunker.

    • Replies: @Marckus
  145. anonymous[194] • Disclaimer says:

    Not entirely sure what is the point of your response to that vermin. That is ok, because it gives me a mild excuse for a troll rant on the godless scum you mention.

    Hindu nationalists are feckless cunts. They idolise both the nazi-krauts, as well as the judenscum. They are essentially approving of what the nazis are purported to have done to the judenscum, while they enjoy the same being done to the Arabs. They are quite similar to the opioid-injecting evangelical losers of AmeriKKKa. Israevil quite happily plays along with both these vermin, because they make useful lowlife sodomites.

    If you witness what is happening in India (bathing in cow dung, adopting and worshipping a newly minted corona-goddess, “gurus” pouring scorn on western medicine, etc., even as over a million have died because of the pandemic), you will come to know that hinduism is quite literally a curse on mankind.

    In fact, all rabid enemies of Islam will pay dearly as they are destined to rot from within. I mean that at a personal, as well as at the societal level.

  146. Rooster11 says:

    You have a deep misunderstanding of the true hatred each side has for the other. I think a better poll to ask each side would be: If you had the power to kill every last person on the “other side”, with no repercussions to yourself or your people, would you do it?

  147. MEexpert says:

    If Palestinians wanted to scare the hell out of Likud, they’d sue for peace and demand an internationally brokered settlement headed by the US (putting both parties at loggerheads). No doubt Bibi would find another ‘terrorist incident’ to shut that down.

    Very smart. A commission headed by “impartial United States” to give justice to Palestinians. What was in your cool aid?

    Thanks for the joke.

    • Agree: Arthur MacBride
    • Replies: @Incitatus
  148. AaronB says:

    Actually, success in the physical world, requires that one be detached from it. Far from hating reality and being above the world, Arabs care too much about the world, and are too attached to certain outcomes, to have the necessary objectivity and distance to be successful, and to have a sense of what’s possible, and when to compromise.

    It is lack of spiritual virtue, an inability to achieve detachment, that has doomed the Arabs.

    Jews have an edge because they are somewhat detached from this world. Western culture, surely, is weak today because it is too materialistic and too attached to this world. As is Islamic culture.

    Idealism is universal; the distinctive intellectual creations of the West, are surely, materialism, in all it’s forms (Darwinism, capitalism, science), and consequently, excessive attachment to this world.

    “High culture” – idealism – is not what doomed the West.

    It’s an interesting paradox, but weakness is health. Christianity, Buddhism, Taoism, understood this.

    The true idealist, of course, does lose to the materialist, in the short run. But not the long run. The strong do win in the short run. But the weak win in the long run. The Arabs are losing, because they are trying to be too strong, just as Germany tried to be in WW2.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
    , @anon
  149. Avery says:
    @Charles Martel France

    {“…. there will be no Arab Christians left in the Holy Land mainly as the result of the intolerant behaviour of moslems. “}

    Christians (including Armenian Christians) in both Lebanon and Syria were living very safe and prosperous lives, until at the instigation of Israel both countries were wrecked, with the loss of the majority of the local Christian populations.

    In Israel itself indigenous Christians are under relentless – official and unofficial – pressure and harassment. The goal being to cleanse Israel of Christians.

    Here is just one example of the hatred of indigenous Christians:
    (there are many, many others)*

    [Christians in Jerusalem Want Jews to Stop Spitting on Them]

    [A few weeks ago, a senior Greek Orthodox clergyman in Israel attended a meeting at a government office in Jerusalem’s Givat Shaul quarter. When he returned to his car, an elderly man wearing a skullcap came and knocked on the window. When the clergyman let the window down, the passerby spat in his face. The clergyman prefered not to lodge a complaint with the police and told an acquaintance that he was used to being spat at by Jews.]

    Now, Christians are NOT automatically safe in Moslem counties: far from it.

    But your assertion that Christians are endangered in the Holy Land (…..and its immediate neighborhood) because of local Moslems is FALSE. Christians in the region are endangered as a direct result of Israel’s and her sponsors/protectors’ decades long efforts to create chaos and instability in the immediate neighborhood of Israel.
    Exhibit A: Syria.
    Exhibit B: Lebanon.


    [An Israeli ambulance worker caught on camera spitting on portraits of Jesus while visiting a Christian home to carry out a Covid test has been fired.
    The medic was seen removing protective clothing before spitting on three pictures in the communal hallway of the block of flats in Jaffa in Tel Aviv.]

  150. Druid55 says:
    @Leo Den

    Untrue. The perpetrators will still be around

  151. @AaronB

    Judaics ‘have an edge’ because their cult consists of extreme xenophobic hatred of the rest of humanity, expressed through a dualistic ‘morality’ where actions forbidden to be taken against fellow Jews are permissible against goyim, and, hence, the Jews have no scruples in exploitation of the goyim. That is precisely what advantages them in a parasitic system like capitalism, and what, inevitably, causes the hideous reactions against them that litter history. Where the Jews are kept under control, and their exploitative tendencies repressed, they can be valuable members of society. Where they run amuk, as in Israel today and throughout the captive states of the West, the hatred just grows and grows, but that is precisely what the Judaic leadership, whether religious extremist or secular fascistic, want. It creates the ghetto mentality among Jews that consolidates the elites’ power. It is a recipe for ruin for the host states and Israel’s victims, and then for the Jews themselves, and, consequently, all humanity.

    • Agree: anarchyst
  152. anon[282] • Disclaimer says:

    Jews have an edge because they are somewhat detached from this world.


    • LOL: Marckus
  153. @Avery

    The Talmudics HATE Christians, far more than they hate Moslems. They imagine Jesus to be in Hell up to his neck in boiling faeces, and his mother Mary to be a whore. Yet the ‘Christian Zionist’ moron thugs worship Israel. Why? Because these invertebrates want the Jews back in the Holy Land so that the End Times may be triggered, at which point their beloved Jews will be given a choice, to convert or be destroyed. Two groups of truly nassty creatures, locked in an embrace of barely disguised mutual loathing.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  154. @meamjojo

    The IDF hasn’t gotten over its loss to Hezbollah and it was still crying about that! And now it has received the 2nd world cup in losing to de-Hamas! That holy iron dome didn’t help did I it? Someone over sold that piece of junk too😂

  155. @anarchyst

    Now we’re getting further off topic, so I’ll use the [MORE] tag here …

    You see, this is a blatant example of the “double standard” that exists here in “the good ol’ USA. “Civil-rights”, “fair housing” and “anti-discrimination” laws are bludgeons used against whites and do not apply to jews who are “chosen”.

    The Kiryas Joel Satmar community has faced quite a number of lawsuits, so it’s not as though they’ve been able to violate constitutional law with impunity.

    Interesting fact: The former executive director of the New York State School Boards Association who sued Kiryas Joel Village School District’s Board of Education is himself Jewish.

    You can read an interview with him here. An excerpt:


    I grew up in West Virginia, where I experienced my share of anti-Semitism, became a ’60s liberal, eventually got a law degree from New York University and a master’s in public administration from the University of Pittsburgh. My undergraduate work was at George Washington University. I spent my career as a public policy wonk and as an official at the state Education Department was responsible for overseeing the state’s special-education program.

    At the time this case started, I was executive director of the New York State School Boards Association. It was in that capacity that I became a plaintiff. As a civil libertarian and lawyer, I was offended that my state and my governor had so casually abandoned the Constitution for political expediency. I imagine my background and ethnic heritage played some role. I mean, who knows better than a Jewish kid from a border state the dangers of church-state entanglement?

    More reading:

    Circumscribing Constitutional Identities in Kiryas Joel

    It is true that Kiryas Joel’s Jews leveraged their unified voting power to get what they wanted. It’s also true that this is less a consequence of their Jewishness than it is their solidarity. On a smaller scale, observe what a handful of unified, committed white folk were able to accomplish in a small Midwestern town:

    Murdock council members said they do not support the church but were legally obligated to approve the permit, which they did in a 3-1 decision.

    “We were highly advised by our attorney to pass this permit for legal reasons to protect the First Amendment rights,” Mayor Craig Kavanagh said. “We knew that if this was going to be denied, we were going to have a legal battle on our hands that could be pretty expensive.”

    The law can work for us. We just have to figure out how to use it to our advantage.

  156. @Nancy

    No-one should capriciously or wantonly harm anyone else, except in self-defence, or defence of innocents. That goes against many Talmudic doctrines, I’m afraid.

  157. Marckus says:

    I wish you had not replied because you are making me cry . I feel so sorry for Noseallah…sniff sniff !

    • LOL: Rogue
    • Replies: @MEexpert
  158. Thim says:

    Saker love him his muzzies. I am neutral, I hate them all. Mr. Putin and the Russian State have other views than Saker. In Moscow they do believe Israhell has a right to exist.

    Maybe not in the same exact form as today. In the end possibly the resurgent Turks will control part, the Jews will control part, and the Russians will be in there as well, to look after the Christian interests.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  159. JM says:
    @James Speaks

    Your funny. Also delusional, but mostly funny.

    Pssst…Carlton Meyer is using irony, explaining what’s on THEIR agenda.

  160. @HeebHunter

    They never will. Zios are survivors like cockroaches. They’ll seep into the cracks under the floors and live there if necessary, but they won’t ever render themselves extinct. The so called Samson Option is a ridiculous bluff.

    • Replies: @HeebHunter
  161. @annamaria

    I strongly suggest everyone reads the actual site at the link annamaria posted, here:

    Anne Frank’s diary is a fraud! A look at Anne Frank denial and the myths surrounding her from badhistory

    Don’t go by the excerpt disingenuously posted in her comment, read the actual reddit link. It says the exact opposite of what the excerpt says.

    • Replies: @RedpilledAF
  162. Rogue says:
    @Charles Martel France


    Only anti Israel stuff is tolerated at Unz…

  163. Mevashir says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Please can someone explain to me how to do the block quote?

    About this post, I’ve had extensive experience with Christian Zionist communities since returning to the USA in 2006. I believe that their allegiance to Israel is partly ideological and mainly financial. Christian Zionist leaders like John Hagee are richly compensated by their Jewish overlords. They also are paid commissions when they send their congregations on tours to the Holy Land. There is a lot of pecuniary motive to their posture of friendship.

    • Replies: @James Forrestal
    , @Rogue
  164. Windwaves says:
    @John Hagan

    Keep on living the big lie: 2% ?! You still believe that. There are many many more

  165. Wow…the sayanim/hasbara goons are out in force in this thread too. They really are worried since they seem to flooding every thread in a sight like this. Note, also, that they are using several methods and “voices” in their attack. Some take a more blunt persona, some more casual, some seemingly critical of Israel but very nasty towards the Palestinians or Iranians, etc.

    If anything, this Talmudic saturation of the UR is a good sign in that they feel threatened. I noticed this in other forums and comment sections. They are really putting in effort and that demonstrates, to me, that they are losing ground in the most important ways and places–hidden from the public sphere of course.

    • Agree: Arthur MacBride
  166. Here you go:
    1. Put the bracket: “” (without the quotation marks)
    3. Between the brackets, write “blockquote” (without the quotation marks)
    4. Paste the quote you want to put
    5. Put the bracket: “” again without quotation marks
    7. Between the brackets, write “/blockquote” (without the quotation marks, and don’t forget to put the backslash /)

    Or, alternatively

    1. Paste the quote.
    2. Highlight it.
    3. Click on the blockquote button above.

    Of course, this will work only on sites like this with a blockquote button.

    Like this

  167. lydia says:
    @Leo Den

    abomination the red heifer and rebuilt temple – reason for the attack on worshipers at the temple mount mosque

  168. annamaria says:
    @Priss Factor

    A veritable picture of a gangster state: Rumsfeld/Cebrowski doctrine

    To remain the world’s leading power, the United States had to adapt to financial capitalism. The best way to do this was to ensure that developed countries could exploit the natural resources of poor countries without political obstacles. …

    … the failure to disrupt Syria was due to the resistance of its people and the entry of the Russian army. The Pentagon has come to burn down crops and organize a blockade of the country to starve it; revengeful actions that attest to its inability to destroy state structures. …

    It must be noted that the Pentagon has become an autonomous power. It has a gigantic budget of 740 billion dollars, which is about twice the annual budget of the entire French state. In practice, its power extends far beyond that, since it controls all the member states of the Atlantic Alliance. It is supposed to be accountable to the President of the United States, but the experiences of Obama and Trump show the absolute opposite. …

    The recent open letter of former US general officers shows that nobody knows who is in charge of the US military anymore.

    Divided we fall, indeed. The moral fiber is rotten to naught. All that is left is the stench of treason at the highest level in the US government.

  169. Uncle Sam says:

    There are a couple things regarding this most recent war between Israel and Hamas/ Islamic Jihad that I am having trouble fathoming.

    In order to protect the civilian population of Gaza why didn’t Hamas and Islamic Jihad build vast and deep underground shelters into which the Gaza civilians could retreat to avoid the Israeli bombs? That would have to be a top priority, certainly as high as obtaining rockets. They must know that the Israelis have a low regard for the life of non-Jews. They did not plan accordingly.

    The other thing that is bothersome is not having surface-to-air missiles to shoot down the Israeli aircraft. I am sure the Iranians could have provided them with such missiles. Or maybe even the Syrians. Perhaps even the Russians. In short they have to have the capability to destroy Israeli aircraft. And they should have antiship cruise missiles (the Iranians have some good ones) to deal with any threat from the sea.

    Before the next war (which is inevitable) they have to address these issues and resolve them. Can you imagine the Israelis dropping bombs on vacated buildings thinking that they are killing civilians and doing only material damage which can be replaced or reconstructed. If the civilian population is protected Hamas and Islamic Jihad would be under far less pressure to end the war and do greater damage to Israel especially its infrastructure, which is the key to making Israel bend its knee.

  170. nickels says:

    The Jews are Nazis.
    We see now that, not only do they owe Hit1er their entire identity (holocaustianity), but that their adopted idenity IS the reich. Their love and admiration of the German machine as the most powerful force that conquered them is branded on their psyche.
    Its a double whammeroo.

  171. anon[272] • Disclaimer says:

    1 “Several months later, Biden voted to not only dramatically step up aid to Israel—over the objections of President Reagan who was strongly pro-Israel—but supported a measure that would ensure U.S. aid to Israel would forever be equal to the amount of U.S. debt repaid by the country.

    “It’s one of the most extraordinary proposals I have heard,” said Illinois Republican Charles H. Percy, the then-chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, who opposed the measure. “The first time in the history of the United States. It makes the American taxpayer responsible for all Israeli debts and all future debts.”

    2 J. William Fulbright (D-AR.), Biden’s predecessor as Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, who warned that, “by underwriting intransigence,” Israel’s supporters in the U.S. were “encouraging a course which must lead toward her destruction—and just possibly ours as well”

    3“I am aware how almost impossible it is in this country to carry out a foreign policy [in the Middle East] not approved by the Jews….. terrific control the Jews have over the news media and the barrage the Jews have built up on congressmen… I am very much concerned over the fact that the Jewish influence here is completely dominating the scene and making it almost impossible to Congress to do anything they don’t approve of. The Israeli embassy is practically dictating to the congress through influential Jewish people in the country”
    —–Sec. of State John Foster Dulles  quoted on p.99 of Fallen Pillars by Donald New

    4 Stanley Weintraub, Disraeli: A Biography, Hamish Hamilton, 1993, p. 579.
    William Gladstone, his longtime competitor for the prime ministry, accused him of “holding British foreign policy hostage to his Jewish sympathies.”

    5 Barry Goldwater: Yes. See, we have no treaty with Israel, but we have pledged ourselves to go to war if she has to go to war. And there are some of the actions that some of the Israeli groups take that, at times, I’ve felt would hasten that day when we have to live up to our promise. I can understand the feeling, but I’m getting awfully tired of the great influence they have and there’s no question about it.

    6“The Israelis control the policy in the congress and the senate.”
    — Senator Fullbright, Chair of Senate Foreign Relations Committee:  10/07/1973 on CBS’ “Face the Nation”.

  172. Druid55 says:
    @PJ London

    Hope you’re right but these talmud-psychopaths are a devious species

  173. anon[272] • Disclaimer says:

    In the days since election results gave the world Donald J. Trump and the rise of demagoguery, some Zionist organizations have moved in quickly to exploit the air of uncertainty and fear in the Muslim community by offering questionable solidarity and so-called interfaith support. ”

    “Zionist organizations, which have a history of silencing Muslims on the issue of Palestine as well as dividing our community in efforts to create a “political firewall around Israel,”1 also have engaged in Islamphobic activities. However, now they are all too ready to announce their solidarity with the Muslim community. The American Jewish Committee (AJC), which is known to be intricately involved in the dissemination of Islamophobic rhetoric and policies, announced in November the creation of the Muslim Jewish Advisory Council2, co-convened by the Islamic Society of North America. The council’s purpose, according to the AJC’s website is to, among other things, develop a coordinated strategy to address anti-Muslim bigotry and anti-Semitism in the U.S.AJC Chairman David Harris, who sits on the newly formed council, wrote in 2002 that Arabs and Muslims in the United States were a “physical threat” to Jews; that the demographic growth of Muslim Americans posed a “long-term political threat;” and exhorted Jews to distinguish between ‘moderate’ and ‘extremist’ American Muslim.6 After 9/11, Harris commissioned a private census of American Muslims in attempts to discredit the estimated 6 million to 8 million Muslims living here. “‘Six million has a special resonance,’ Harris wrote in a May 21 article in Jerusalem Report magazine. ‘It would mean that Muslims outnumber Jews in the U.S. and it would buttress calls for a redefinition of America’s heritage as ‘Judeo-Christian- Muslim,’ a stated goal of some Muslim leaders,’” the AP reported on Oct. 27, 2001.7

    Harris wrote about the demographic count he commissioned from a University of Chicago professor in a blog post on Aug. 19, 2002: “Whatever the actual number, however, what is indisputable, given current immigration policy, is that the Muslim population in the U.S. is likely to grow quite rapidly in the coming years.”8 Just a few months later, on Jan. 9, 2003, the AJC issued a statement supporting then-President Bush’s “Registration of Certain Nonimmigrant Aliens from Designated Countries Program,”9 commonly referred to as the Muslim registry”

  174. Chinese guy says Deep State hated Trump because he made democracy real.

    But in truth, it’s not so much the Deep State but who leads it. When the Deep State was ruled by Wasps, it was a different animal than when it’s run by Jews. So, it’s not Deep State per se but WHO controls the Deep State. Most Deep Staters are colorless personalities. They don’t decide on the agenda but carry it out. Well, who comes up with the agenda? It’s Jewish supremacist power.

  175. @Mevashir

    Please can someone explain to me how to do the block quote?

    1. Cut and paste the text you want to quote.

    2. Highlight it

    3. Click “Blockquote” button [next to bold and italic buttons in upper right of text window.]

    Or you can type out the html tags — “blockquote” before the quoted text and “/blockquote” after, each tag enclosed within a leading “less than” symbol and a trailing “greater than” symbol [no spaces].

    See also:

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  176. @anon

    In the days since election results gave the world Donald J. Trump and the rise of demagoguery,

    No. Just no.

    Why is such a magnet for morons?

    • Replies: @anon
  177. MEexpert says:

    Don’t feel sorry for Nasrallah. Feel sorry for Netanyahu. He lost again. First in the war with Gaza and now he lost his job as Prime Minister. Sniff sniff!

    • Replies: @Marckus
  178. MEexpert says:
    @Jett Rucker


    Kingdom of Saudi Arabia

  179. Alfred says:
    @splitting the atom

    Here is a good explanation about the Tu-22M3’s and their presence in Syria. It is part of a buildup by Russia to be able to threaten NATO all the way to Italy and the Balkans. A challenge that the USSR could never perform.

    • Replies: @alwayswrite
    , @anon
  180. @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    Citing Reddit and a few Jewish sources, along with picking and choosing advantageously from others, will not change the fact that it was a fraud and part of the worldwide scam.

  181. @anonymous

    It’s not Christians, it’s a mad sect, falsely calling themselves Evangelical, really just Scofieldian.

    Not even that because the editing of the Scofield Bible was managed by Samuel Untermyer. He paid for everything.

    And Scofield, a real fraudster, falsely putting D.D. after his name, had switched Christian denominations when there was a job to be had. Well, there was a job to be had working for Untermyer, so probably at the time of its publication, Scofield was a Jew.

    So American Evangelical Christianity is all a Jewish fraud, but thanks to televangelism, a huge number of suckers have got sucked in.

    • Replies: @Rogue
    , @anon
  182. @Uncle Sam

    If the Zionazis did NOT kill Gazan children, then the propaganda value of those murders would be lost. The slow destruction of children’s lives and psyches by the Zionazi siege is of no interest to Western audiences, even if they find their way through Judaic media censorship. Moreover, as the al-Amariya atrocity proved in 91, the Zionazis would be just as happy incinerating Gazans like ‘burned offerings’ in bunkers like gas-chambers.

  183. Mevashir says:
    @James Forrestal

    Thank you so much. I’ve tried 1-3 but for some reason my smart phone masks the


    button when I highlite the selected text. But now it’s working!

    • Replies: @James Forrestal
  184. grr says:

    Dear Saker,

    you are terribly wrong re Gaza’s missile (and other war material) capability. You are judging them on what they used. They themselves said they used their old stocks.

    They are using Hizbollah’s doctrine of incremental increase in introducing more lethal and higher tech weapons as needed.

    Nasrallah has stated (as posted on Taxi’s blog); “They are more powerful than the enemy thinks. They have more weapons than the enemy thinks. They are so powerful now and israel remains weak as a spider’s web. The Palestinians alone can defeat israel. They have the plan, the weapons, the training, the radars, everything….”/

    They are well equipped and you are doing the same as the Zionists and that is you are underestimating them.

    • Agree: Alfred
    • Replies: @Nostradamus
  185. @Lot

    lots of words, lots to unpack, however, 250 deaths to 12, most would call that a victory.

    saker seems to place a lot of emphasis in the destructive power of the crud missiles, but it wasn’t Israeli infrastructure being dismantled, but no muss, the US has vowed to help the hammas rebuild.

    who are palestinians? are they like the kurds?

    it’s a matter of convenience for the author to define the objectives of the Israelis and then outline how they haven’t met them, in his terms.

    The larger issue is what happened to the peace agreement of the Trump administration? No mention of it. Trump also got out of Syria and prevented Turkey from embroiling NATO in Syria. Biden promptly resumed bombing Syrian targets.

    The crown jewel of geopolitics is Iran, the crossroads of the Asian continent, and through which all oil and gas flows, meanwhile proxy wars continue in the Ukraine, Syria, and North Korea.

    All else is kabuki theatre, including this latest display of false hostilities.

    • Thanks: Lot
  186. @alwayswrite

    Friendly Neighbourhood Terrorist,I’ve left you a reply,its somewhere amongst this jumble of comments,go do the research,then you’ll understand why the saker is wrong about Syrian refugees returning,which isn’t actually happening,once you’ve established that as fake news then it’ll lead naturally to the next phase of your awakening,good luck

  187. anon[995] • Disclaimer says:
    @Too Long Didn't Read

    You are a pitiable moron who has found god in Trump . Now go to Herzylia and worship him .Take the MAGA cap and whine about election being stolen by Kung fu virus and Israel not saving him.

    1There was even a honey trap with a female FBI undercover agent inserted into Israeli-arranged social situations with a Trump staffer.—

    2 Tuesday night at a campaign rally in North Carolina, President Trump told an approving audience, “The fact is, we don’t have to be in the Middle East, other than we want to protect Israel. We’ve been very good to Israel.”  

    3 Gérard Araud (French Ambassador to USA) talking to YARA BAYOUMY is (a former senior editor at The Atlantic).
    Araud: Exactly, but if need be, he may do it. Once Trump told Macron, “I have given everything to the Israelis; the Israelis will have to give me something.” He is totally transactional. He is more popular than [Benjamin] Netanyahu in Israel, so the Israelis trust him. That’s the first bet, Kushner told me.

    4 But the Wall Street Journal on Thursday night included an eye-popping tidbit in its story about how Trump came to green-light the Soleimani operation: “Mr. Trump, after the strike, told associates he was under pressure to deal with Gen. Soleimani from GOP senators he views as important supporters in his coming impeachment trial in the Senate, associates said.”

    5 .10-20 American mouthpieces for Israeli government had unrivaled access to White House — Rhodes

    White House officials have to go to the Israel lobby AIPAC conference, but if they meet with Arab-Americans ‘you can get into trouble,’ former deputy national security adviser Ben Rhodes says.

    6 Sheldon Adelshon Trump Iran–


    8 In November, President Trump’s envoy to Iran, Elliot Abrams, said the US will impose new sanctions on Iran “until the end” of the Trump administration.–

    9 In his new book, John Bolton recounts how a potential meeting between the U.S. president and Iran’s foreign minister spread panic among top U.S. and Israeli officials last summer
    How Bolton, Netanyahu and Pompeo sabotaged Trump’s dream of talks with Iran
    One story Bolton tells in more detail, however, reveals how Netanyahu – together with Bolton and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo – reportedly sabotaged Trump’s attempts to open diplomatic channels with Tehran last summer.

    • Replies: @James Forrestal
  188. Marckus says:

    I dont feel sorry for Hasan or Bennie.

    To be quite blunt I dont give a shit about either. As for the Palestinians no other Moslem state wants them. That speaks volumes to a thinking man. As for the Jews the same applies. The US gave them $900M + and this seems like a slap in the face to US taxpayers. However it works out to $3 per each US citizen so they can remain THERE !! The annual cost per citizen works out to be a small coffee and a donut. A great investment I would say.

    Both sides are supported by outside players such that neither can be defeated and neither can win. A Mexican standoff !? In my opinion the Palestinians cannot because they lack the power and the Israelis cannot because they are afraid of public opinion.

    So I would posit Israel did not lose any war but neither did it win. As for Ben losing his job, in politics as in civilian life, this is not a big thing. It is being temporarily “unemployed”. In the realm of the political elite and the wealthy, this really means nothing. Ben will find something else (he has powerful friends) and be paid more. Or he will write his memoirs and rake in tens of millions in book rights and speaking fees without all the bullshit of political office. If Hasan is kicked out he will live in comfort in some Moslem country in regal splendor, his Palestinian subjects forgotten. This is the way of the world, flowery words, promises, sugar sweet rhetoric and hype notwithstanding.

    I dont really concern myself about events happening thousands of miles away. Hence, if they lose sons or blow each other to pieces it is just another day for me. I observe these movements merely to draw lessons.

    The ultimate lesson from politicians is they look out for themselves and the lesson I draw from this is that the prudent citizen must do the same. No politician cares about the citizenry and I as a citizen dont care about any of them.

    • Replies: @MEexpert
  189. @Alfred

    What utter garbage!

    Those three,yes THREE, old Soviet era bombers pose absolutely no threat to NATO or Italy,or anywhere else for that matter,in any war with NATO they’d soon be destroyed,and the small amount of missiles they can carry certainly couldn’t win a war,thats just totally daft

    But lets have a look at Russia,this vast country basically can’t defend itself,and the recent military exercise, Northern Edge 21 demonstrated to the Russians just how vulnerable their artic eastern back door is,which incidentally included a test flight of a B52 test simulation of hypersonic kill chain of the AGM 183,but according to ex Soviet KGB personal who the saker often sites,the Americans have no capabilities in hypersonic!

    Well this latest exercise has been a bit of a wake up call for the Russians by all accounts,not that the saker or his ex Soviet Russia military expert would ever write anything,oh incidentally the B1 bomber that America has can carry up to thirty,yes that’s a big fat THIRTY AGM 183’s wow!

    So Alfred,i think you’ve imbibed on to much Kremlin kool aid

  190. MEexpert says:

    The US gave them $900M + and this seems like a slap in the face to US taxpayers. However it works out to $3 per each US citizen so they can remain THERE !! The annual cost per citizen works out to be a small coffee and a donut. A great investment I would say.

    Do your Math again. US gives Israel $3.8 billions a year. That is a B not an M. Plus, Biden replenished the weapons Israel lost in this war with $735 million weapon “sale.” Sale is a joke. Israel never pays anything.

  191. anon[995] • Disclaimer says:

    “In January, the newly formed Democratic Majority for Israel (DMFI) opened its doors to “promote progressive values” and “maintain and strengthen support for Israel among grassroots progressives and Democratic leaders.” However, DMFI’s leaders have in the past attacked and worked to suppress progressive values when it comes to the Israel issue. And since its inception, the group has continued that trend by criticizing Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s (D-Mass.) hiring of a campaign staffer, Max Berger — who co-founded IfNotNow, the Jewish group that condemns Israeli human rights abuses against Palestinians — and attacking Sen. Bernie Sanders (D-Vt.) for taking on Muslim American surrogates Linda Sarsour and Amer Zarhr, outspoken critics of Israel and supporters of the Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions (BDS) movement”—

    What is corruption ? It consists of distorting the original purpose of any program, intervention ,polices , description, or operation to retrofit or alter the final product or destination or outcome or prevent the initial aims and declarations in the shadow ,behind the scene ,and under the radar .

    Any thing emanating from the collective Jewish effort is suspect and usually a dangerous garbage taht shouldn’t be allowed to hang around. Muslims are stupid or are like evangelical looking for 4 seconds fame.

  192. Rogue says:

    For some Christian Zionist leaders the motivation might be financial. Maybe.

    However, for the most part it is definitely ideological. I know this because I used to be a Christian Zionist and belonged many years ago to a staunchly Christian Zionist church. Although not USA, but South Africa.

    Whilst I’m certainly still a Christian, I abandoned the Zionist part of it nearly 10 years ago.

    It is generally assumed that all evangelicals are staunchly pro-Israel. But that’s not entirely true. And amongst non-White and younger White evangelicals the support is definitely less than for older White evangelicals.

    Even the church that I referenced earlier has definitely moved away from that position. Or at least they don’t push it like they used to.

    Christian Zionism can be summed up by the belief that the Jews remain God’s chosen people. And, of course, end times eschatology.

    The New Testament does have some positive things to say about the Jews and their future, but ultimately Christians are under a new covenant where there is neither Jew nor gentile (for believers in Christ), and the old covenant (specifically the one with ancient Israel) has been replaced.

    As for end times eschatology, let’s just say there’s loads of different views on this.

    For example, here at Unz people are deeply scornful of anyone believing in the rapture. Well, I used to believe in it most firmly years ago – but for the last few years have been a lot more skeptical. Having said that, I don’t dismiss it altogether.

  193. @RedpilledAF

    That is perfectly possible, but that does not mean that the link was honestly posted because she

    1. Posted it as “the truth” and
    2. Posted an excerpt from it which directly contradicted what the article actually said.

    This kind of behaviour is counterproductive and should be strongly discouraged.

    • Replies: @RedpilledAF
  194. @alwayswrite

    Tu22M3s are hardly “old Soviet era bombers”. They’re extremely advanced maritime strike aircraft, as you could have ascertained for yourself just by, you know, Google….if you were interested in the truth.

    Here is an article from the US navy about these “old Soviet bombers”, if you care to try to read it:

    • Replies: @alwayswrite
  195. Rogue says:
    @Ann Nonny Mouse

    You are quite wrong about evangelicals all following the Schofield Bible.

    Though I used to be a Christian Zionist many years ago, as were some of the churches I attended, the emphasis on which bibles to use was always either the New International Version, or the King James Version.

    Truth be told, I only heard about Schofield and his interpretations probably after I’d dropped what I now consider to be the faulty doctrine of supporting the modern Zionist state no matter what.

    A Christian position on the state of Israel should be neither automatically pro or reactively anti, as far as I’m concerned.

    Lots of Unzer’s salivate about Israel being wiped of the map. Yeah, well, I think they’re dreaming.

    • Replies: @Nancy
  196. @moi

    The sociopathic Siamese twins (US-Izrael) only attack those who militarily are weak–but neither is prepared to sacrifice its in own blood in any great measure.

    Well, they’ll sacrifice the children of others, but not their own because 99.999% of the ruling class have no children in the U.S. military. They wouldn’t have such a rotten outcome for THEIR children. With a draft, they protested. No draft? They couldn’t give a shit. And that of course includes Jews and Wasps-alike. Fact is, the U.S. no longer has tough guys to sign up and is only interested in the soft part of society for active-duty forces, I think the days of new ground based combat are over for the U.S. In Israel, everyone’s a Reserve. But that’s the problem for the IDF because in a deal like Lebanon in 2006, the Reserve IDF was so soft and fat and filled with white-collar workers that had no taste for it and a great life back home, they don’t want to fight. Haaretz and JPost were filled with stories and Israeli mothers are supposedly a pain in the ass for Israeli IDF. A bunch of them got kidnapped and swapped for poli-prisoners in and around Lebanon. Israel, if they thought they could have would have gone in last week and in the old days, they would have gone into Gaza and mopped UP. Not anymore. All they have is Tactical Air. The Lebanon adventure wised them up to house-to-house fighting and IEDs, they won’t ever pound the ground again. They’ll try to get US to do it–again.

  197. @moi

    Sorry, I meant to click “Agree.”

    It’s ok, Newbie, just go back to AGREE/DISAGREE and chick Like, LOL, or what.

    Happy as hell to be of assistance.

  198. @Thim

    I am neutral, I hate them all.

    Reminds me of an American joke: I am not a racist, I hate all races equally.

  199. @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    Interesting link! Basically just another ranty echo chamber,you can always tell by the quality of the comments section

    The author seems to have used mainly Russian state media as reference,which doesn’t say much for his academic qualifications

    There must be a reason for this?

    Its basically fluff and scary stories to encourage congress to spend loads of money,Putin has cranked up his propaganda machine,this is basically his most formidable weapon, in the hope that America will spend itself into oblivion,he does this because he knows deep down he can’t win a protracted war with NATO

    Hope that clarifies things,over and out

    • Replies: @Abdur Rahman
  200. @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    You are absolutely correct. I should have written more and been clear.

  201. @alwayswrite

    >Over and out

    Holy hell, we are reaching levels of Speshull forces I have never seen before

    • Replies: @alwayswrite
  202. @Abdur Rahman

    Have you ever tried two tin cans and a long bit of string?

    Impossible to hack,brilliant communication system

    Apparently homing pigeon is also good,with the added advantage you can eat them if desperate

    Over and out!

  203. @Ron T,

    An influential neoconservative in President George W. Bush’s White House who became a significant force behind the push for war with Iraq in 2003, Wurmser has recently been serving as an informal adviser to the Trump administration, according to new reporting from Bloomberg News. In that capacity, Wurmser helped make the case for the recent drone strike that assassinated Iranian Gen. Qassim Suleimani. What would you expect from a direct deputy of Dick Cheney???? We should ask Liz about this????

    Wurmser wrote several memos to then-national security adviser John Bolton in May and June of 2019. In the documents, according to Bloomberg, Wurmser argued that aggressive action by the U.S. — such as the killing of Suleimani — would, in Wurmser’s words, “rattle the delicate internal balance of forces and the control over them upon which the [Iranian] regime depends for stability and survival.”

    Eventually, Wurmser and company got what they wanted, and the U.S. led an invasion of Iraq in March 2003. At that point, the purported wishes of the neoconservatives collided with reality, and reality won. Hundreds of thousands of people died, the lives of millions have been blighted, and the entire region will be in flames for the indefinite future.

    Also once again…. Why is Trump and family not telling the people of the United States ” DO NOT GET VACCINATED ” Asking the question How deep is Trump into the Globalist Plan to poison everyone everywhere by shooting them up? We know Biden/Harris and the evil Democrats are into this plot…… plotted dead pols (pols from 1984)

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @Anon
  204. @anon

    The American Jewish Committee (AJC), which is known to be intricately involved in the dissemination of Islamophobic rhetoric and policies, announced in November the creation of the Muslim Jewish Advisory Council2, co-convened by the Islamic Society of North America.


    That’s not the kind of relationship I had in mind.

    Actually, it would be enough if Americans of all faiths and none would throw their weight behind the First Amendment’s protection of religious liberty as it was originally intended. That’s a “coalition” I’d like to see realized. Though still highly effective, the First Amendment has endured significant erosion since the founding of the American republic, making much of “free exercise” a matter of personal belief rather than practice.

    That’s a deliberate assault which is countered only when Americans who confront it are willing to stand up for themselves. They may not always prevail, but fighting is the only means that gives them the opportunity to do so. Giving up and saying “You can’t fight city hall” yields a 100% chance of failure.

  205. Mevashir says:

    I am forever grateful to the readers of Unz Review for expanding my vocabulary with such wondrous terms as Kikenfilth and ZioNazistan. Truly memorable and funny.

    I your honor I created a new FB post with a heading:

    Please take a look before Suckerberg censors it!

    Imagine the joy standing outside the IsNOTreal embassy in Washed out District of Corruption with huge signs!!!

    • Replies: @Mevashir
    , @Mevashir
  206. annamaria says:

    Know your major war criminals:

    David Wurmser (born in Switzerland) is a Jewish American foreign policy specialist. He served as Middle East Adviser to former US Vice President Dick Cheney, as special assistant to John R. Bolton at the State Department and as a research fellow on the Middle East at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI). … Wurmser’s wife, Dr. Meyrav Wurmser, is an Israeli citizen. She co-founded the Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI). Wurmser lives in Rockville, Maryland.

    According to Vincent Cannistraro, a former CIA counterintelligence official, MEMRI is selective and acts as propagandists for a political point of view which follows the extreme right of Likud. MEMRI seems bent on stigmatizing anyone who criticizes Israel and/or Zionism as being anti-Jewish. … Many of the neocons’ dreams now have turned to ashes, leaving a ruined Iraq but not yet having destroyed either Iran or Syria as most of the neocons desire. Meyrav Wurmser clearly has no regrets about the havoc she and her fellow travellers have wrought upon the United States and its allies. woman is a deadly parasite from the same cloth as the bloody Madeleine Albright.

    In 1996, Meyrav Wurmser participated in a study that led to the report, “A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm,” which was published by the Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies, a Jerusalem- and DC-based think tank. The report, which urged Israel to break off then-ongoing peace initiatives, contained six pages of recommendations for Likud Party leader and then-Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu “to work closely with Turkey and Jordan to contain, destabilize, and roll back” regional threats, help overthrow Saddam Hussein, and strike “Syrian military targets in Lebanon” and possibly in Syria. Other study participants included Richard Perle, David Wurmser, and Douglas Feith.

    Zionism is a treasonous enterprise at the heart of western civilization. These Tribal people have no decency, no shame, and they do not understand the concept of dignity.

    • Thanks: Mevashir
    • Replies: @Mevashir
  207. Mevashir says:

    In Hebrew it sounds better to write Nazionim since Zionim is Zionists and you just add the letter Nun to the beginning to get the double meaning of Nazionist:
    נציונים – נציונות

    • Replies: @Mevashir
    , @Mevashir
  208. Begemot says:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    I too noticed Dreher’s complete silence on this topic. He can’t resist pontificating on topics about which he knows little, but on Israel and Palestine – nothing. Doesn’t want to bite the hand? Also, Dreher moderates all comments on his posts so he controls what emerges as criticism. If you take him to task too often he will ban you from posting on The American Conservative site.

  209. Mevashir says:

    I also apologize to Feldwitz for siding with Fran against him. Re-educating and reprogramming oneself is a b*tch!

  210. Mevashir says:

    When I was part of a Hasidic cult in israel, a French television crew came to interview our Rabbi who was a very controversial figure. They only spoke French and English and he only spoke Hebrew so I was asked to translate from Hebrew into English for them. I was completely humiliated when he launched into a tirade against Gentiles saying things like “Tell them that all Goyim are animals no better than dogs…” and laughing while he said it.

    • Thanks: Alfred
  211. Mevashir says:

    The Hebrew is pronounced:

    na-tzee-OH-nim (Nazionists)

    na-TZEE-oh-noot (Nazionism)

  212. anon[310] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ann Nonny Mouse

    It’s not Christians, it’s a mad sect, falsely calling themselves Evangelical, really just Scofieldian.

    That’s been fading for years and years. No seminary teaches Dispensationalism any more, and there are plenty of churches where it is unknown.

  213. anon[310] • Disclaimer says:

    Here is a good explanation about the Tu-22M3’s and their presence in Syria. It is part of a buildup by Russia to be able to threaten NATO all the way to Italy and the Balkans.


    Those are maritime patrol / antiship aircraft, they aren’t all that great as bombers on land, although the Soviets used them in Afghanistan a few times. The Russian Air Force is rebuilding capabilities. What those will be used for is not known, but it isn’t likely to be “threaten …. Italy”.

    • Replies: @Alfred
  214. Uncle Sam says:

    I don’t believe for one minute that the Israelis only had 13 dead in this most recent war. The Israelis routinely lie about casualties in order to mitigate the emotional impact it has on their people as well as mislead the Palestinians about the effectiveness of their rockets. It is pure propaganda.

    My impression is that scores if not hundreds of Israelis were killed and many more were injured.

  215. @alwayswrite

    ‘The cheaper the hood the gaudier the patter’.

  216. Incomprehensible,folks lose the argument and thats your answer

  217. Alfred says:

    “threaten …. Italy”

    If you prefer, they threaten shipping in all of the eastern Mediterranean – as far as Italy.


  218. This author is hitting very close to the mark. His appraisal of the reality on the ground is surprisingly accurate.

    • Replies: @alwayswrite
  219. @Alexander P. Lloyd

    The author,saker, is so far off the mark as far as refugees in Syria are concerned,he may as well be on another planet,so his appraisal of the situation is highly questionable not accurate at all

    why he even needs to bring this into an article about the recent unpleasantness between Israel and Palestinians is beyond me,it can only be included to further the American empire decline propaganda which he constantly peddles

    • Replies: @Marcaurelius
  220. There is a reason the Unz Review is blocked from facebook.

    Facebook doesn’t want you raising issues about the US foreign policy in the middle east.

  221. @alwayswrite

    America’s empire is in decline. That isn’t propaganda.

    • Agree: L.K
  222. Why don’t you stick to the substance,which is the saker is wrong about Syrian refugees,if he’s wrong about that he’s probably wrong about all sorts of other stuff

    Your assertions are neither here nor there,and if they’re based upon what the saker writes,they’re almost certainly wrong,and no,I’m not gonna give example/ links you can do some searching yourself

  223. America’s empire is in decline. That isn’t propaganda.

    Being asset stripped is probably more accurate. After the 2008 fraud all the return bailout money somehow ends up in a private equity company that basically moved the massive amount of extracted money to China where I assume it will eventually become the de facto Central Bank.

  224. Incitatus says:

    “Very smart. A commission headed by “impartial United States” to give justice to Palestinians.”

    ME “Expert” weighs in with a withering acid comment. Thanks!

    Never said the United States was “impartial”. It’s anything but. That’s the point. Put the ball in its court (no need to promise to abide by its advice). Request former President Carter, GW Bush or Obama, former Secretary of State James Baker as chief mediators.

    The internal US turmoil, as well as tension created between the US and Israel will be palpable, defining who wants war and who seeks peace.

    The premise of the UR article is that Palestinians “won” because they ‘feel’, like Lebanon, unafraid of Israel. Like Python’s limbless Black Knight, as more of Gaza is destroyed, more killed and expulsion from Jerusalem continues. The piece is an invitation to continued lemming-like disbelief. Your comment?

    “What was in your cool aid? Thanks for the joke”

    Helpful tip: “cool aid” is actually spelled ‘Kool-Aid’ Better luck next time.

  225. @Avery

    Now, Christians are NOT automatically safe in Moslem counties: far from it.

    I agree. That is particularly true in countries like Pakistan, Turkey, Syria,Iraq, Lebanon,Egypt and the areas controlled by the so-called PA. I am talking about indigenous Christians. Let me give you some examples : The Lebanese Christians who committed a fatal error by disarming themselves – according to Joseph Abu Fadel – are fighting a losing battle valiantly. It is normal in Egypt for moslems to kidnap young Christian girls and declare that they ” embraced ” Islam with the help of Al-Sisi, the cruel Islamist ruler of Egypt. Try to imagine if that were to happen to your family.

    The problem with Islam is that non-moslems are considered as kuffar(P)/kafir (S). A kafir (=from to cover, cover the truth ! ) is not simply a non-believer but an ungrateful person who rejects Islam – the only true religion in the eyes of Allah – and Mohammed, the perfect creature ! In short a very bad person a moslem would love to hate based on the teachings of ” the prophet “.

    • Disagree: Avery
    • Replies: @RedpilledAF
    , @Avery
  226. Anon[821] • Disclaimer says:

    Wurmser Perle Feith AIPAC president should have been jailed years ago for illegal and anti national activities . Then we wouldn’t have faced the pandemic of the violence orchestrated by then on US soldiers and contractors . They wouldn’t have been able to wreck the economy from bloated military budget.

    Kristol’s father Irvine Kristol excoriated McGovern – Democrat presidential candidate for planning to reduce military budget . Irvine the father of another monster Kristol criticized the sane sensible approach because it would hurt Israel .

    He should have been thrown out of the civilized society and somehow should have been forced to feel the pain war brings on other .

    What a rat he was !

  227. @Charles Martel France

    “Charles Martel France”…I think you are actually Schlomo Shekelstein Tsarfat

  228. Avery says:
    @Charles Martel France


    Don’t insult my intelligence.
    I am of Armenian Ancestry.
    Armenian Apostolic Church Christian.

    I know all about Jews, Dönmeh Jews, the fact that Jews at large DENY the Armenian Genocide, and that the filthy ADL denies the Armenian Genocide,….
    And on, and on, and on…….

    I am trying to be reasonable and fair. I have no issue with Jews at large: many of my good friends are Jews. One of my best friends is an Iranian Jew. (true: not a gimme.)
    But don’t think for a second that because I am of Armenian ancestry I am any less intelligent than a Jew.

    So Please. Pretty please. Don’t insult my intelligence by spewing B______S_____ nonsense.

  229. RobinG says:

    Good thread on today’s rally/march in DC, from @wyattreed13

    “Washington’s streets are absolutely packed with demonstrators calling on the US to sanction the zionist apartheid regime for its ongoing war crimes in Palestine”

  230. RobinG says:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    O.T., but since you’re there and maybe know… is India really using ivermectin wide scale for covid, and with success? (Media and empire suppression of that news is rumored.) Thanks.

  231. @Uncle Sam

    In order to protect the civilian population of Gaza why didn’t Hamas and Islamic Jihad build vast and deep underground shelters into which the Gaza civilians could retreat to avoid the Israeli bombs? That would have to be a top priority, certainly as high as obtaining rockets. They must know that the Israelis have a low regard for the life of non-Jews. They did not plan accordingly.

    Protecting the civilian population with bomb shelters (like the Israelis)would have been the sane thing to do. Problem is Hamas is not sane. They are crazy Jihadist that live on death and destruction.

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @Anon
  232. @anon

    “Demagogue” in this context mostly means “Has a tendency to say in public things that everyone knows, but that you’re not supposed to say. For instance:

    Tuesday night at a campaign rally in North Carolina, President Trump told an approving audience, “The fact is, we don’t have to be in the Middle East, other than we want to protect Israel. We’ve been very good to Israel.”

    That was hilarious — and one of the reasons why the optics jews were so anti-Trump. He had a tendency to blurt out things like that that everyone in DC knows… but they’re not supposed to say. They’re supposed go to war for Israel — while talking about muh human rights democracy or the Kurds being gassed or whatever BS cover story. Openly acknowledging that we’re only concerned with Israel’s interests is pointing out the power of the Israel lobby.

    As Araud said, Trump was too openly transactional — he would also say things like “The jews should love me — I’ve done so much for Israel!” A perfectly valid point in terms of objective truth, but again, you’re not supposed to say it. Think about it — again, it’s calling attention to the power of the Israel lobby. It’s the same informational content as Mearsheimer and Walt, just from a different slant — but it actually goes a step further. He’s explicitly saying that Israeli interests = diaspora jew interests, and that the US government is eager to do whatever they want. “Antisemitic canard” [=inconvenient truth] alert!

    Now it he had made some reference to evangelical Christians and said that they loved him for his support of Israel — that’s A-OK. Fits right into the desired dialectic. It’s a position that the Dems can safely attack him for. Personally, I think he should have taken it a step further, and said “It’s the least I could do after Sheldon Adelson and Paul Singer gave me all those shekels…” but oh well.

    Mr. Trump, after the strike, told associates he was under pressure to deal with Gen. Soleimani from GOP senators he views as important supporters

    In other words, non-Trump Republicans/ GOPe types [note that Vox refuses to name them] are also eager to do whatever the Israel lobby wants? What a surprise.

    “White House officials have to go to the Israel lobby AIPAC conference…” Uh huh.
    Let’s see: “I did more fundraisers for AIPAC in the ‘70s and early ‘80s than — just about as many as anybody.”

    6 Sheldon Adelshon Trump Iran–

    Let’s see what Adelson’s counterpart on the “other” side — leading Dem donor Haim Saban — has to say about Iran. Saban [an Israeli-American dual citizen and IDF veteran] was Hillary’s #1 donor, and a top donor to Biden as well. He seems pretty… reasonable on Iran policy:

    Yup, a big change from the Trump/ Kushner regime:
    Nothing in common with ol’ Sheldon at all.

    The Israelis were very concerned at the possibility of a Biden win, right? I mean, Bibi was so worried that he waited until… Nov 8 to congratulate Biden.

    One story Bolton tells in more detail, however, reveals how Netanyahu – together with Bolton and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo – reportedly sabotaged Trump’s attempts to open diplomatic channels with Tehran last summer.

    Clearly, Bolton and Pompeo should be arrested and prosecuted for treason — and they should get the Foreign Malign Influence Center after Bibi. But exactly how is this supposed to reflect badly on Trump again?

    How about Biden himself? He’s a guy who puts American interests first, and would never be swayed by the Israel lobby… right?

    1. Joe Biden’s consistent support for Israel spans his entire five-decade career in public life, since he was first elected to the Senate in 1972. No candidate for president in either party has ever run with as long and as strong of a pro-Israel record as Joe Biden.

    Since he was first elected to the Senate in 1972 and traveled to Israel in 1973, Biden’s commitment to Israel has been unshakeable. Biden has fought in the Senate for critical aid to Israel, calling it “the best $3 billion investment we make,” and opposed any effort to cut or condition aid to Israel. In fact, he’s called such efforts “outrageous.”

    Biden proudly calls himself a Zionist, saying “You don’t have to be Jewish to be a Zionist, and I’m a Zionist.”
    Joe Biden, Five Years Before Invasion, Said the Only Way of Disarming Iraq Is “Taking Saddam Down”

    And much, much more…

    • Agree: annamaria
  233. @Avery

    I know all about Jews, Dönmeh Jews, the fact that Jews at large DENY the Armenian Genocide, and that the filthy ADL denies the Armenian Genocide

    Jews often referred to Armenians as Amalekites.

    Claims that:

    This is the Byzantine term for the Armenians.

    Huh. That’s not a term that really has much significance in Christianity. What else do they say:

    It was adopted by the Jews from the Josippon chronicle [a Jewish source]

    Does “Amalekite” have any special significance in Judaism?

    “…according to folk tradition the Armenians are nothing more than Amaleks! Amaleks? We would give them help? To whom? To Amaleks? Heaven forbid!”

    Probably just a coincidence.

    • Thanks: Nancy
  234. @Avery

    I know all about Jews, Dönmeh Jews, the fact that Jews at large DENY the Armenian Genocide, and that the filthy ADL denies the Armenian Genocide,….
    And on, and on, and on…….

    I am sorry. These are the reasons why the Israelis failed to recognize the Armenian Genocide committed by the Turks :

    Many argue that Israel’s national security and economic interests should trump the moral imperative of recognizing the genocide of another nation, even for Israel with its intimate and inseparable bonds with the experience of the Holocaust.

    “I think we should keep ourselves distant from this [genocide] debate,” argued Cohen. “From my perspective, recognition will not contribute to Israel’s national interest. On the contrary, it will create problems with Azerbaijan and Turkey.

    Israel’s refusal to recognize the genocide comes from its desire to protect ties with Turkey, which was a close strategic ally in the 1990s but has become a bitter regional rival under Erdogan. Still, Israel expects to rekindle the alliance at some point in the future.

    Azerbaijan is a major purchaser of Israeli weapons. According to data from the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (Sipri), over the past five years, Israel has been the top supplier of arms to Azerbaijan, with sales of more than $740 million, putting it ahead of Russia. It is also widely believed that Azerbaijan’s location on Iran’s border gives Israeli intelligence services easier access into the Islamic Republic.

    “There should be better ways to nurture important relations than through commiserating over genocide denial,” argued Mouradian.

    Another obstacle to Israeli recognition is the conviction among Jews that the Holocaust, or Shoah, was a unique event in history. “It’s hard for them to accept use of same term,” Lindenstrauss posited. “It’s easier to accept a term like tragedy.”

    “This should not be a zero-sum competition over victimhood and memory,” Mouradian said.

    • Troll: Arthur MacBride
    • Replies: @Avery
    , @annamaria
  235. Avery says:
    @Charles Martel France

    I am quite aware of the reasons why Israel does not recognize the Armenian Genocide.
    And unlike many other Armenians both in Armenia and here in the US (where I live), and who are practically begging Israel to recognize the AG, I say “the Hell with it. the Hell with Israel’s recognition”. We don’t need it. France, Russia, recognized it long ago, together with many other counties. And now the US. Israel is nothing to Armenia.

    Further, my position on that is that NO country* is obligated to recognize the AG:None.
    The ones who recognized it “Thank you very much”. Republic of Armenia and Armenian Diaspora should treat them as friends. The ones who don’t, should be treated neutrally.

    That is my position on the State of Israel: Israel is not obligated to recognize the AG.

    However, any country or NGO which actively supports Turkey’s worldwide efforts to Deny the AG should be considered an enemy. Should be considered a participant in Turks’ ongoing program to extinguish Armenia, which is tantamount to the eventual extinction of Armenians worldwide.

    Majority of Jewish American organizations and Jewish American politicians – with few very brave and honorable Jews, such as Rep Brad Sherman CA – had been working with Turks to thwart Armenian-American decades long efforts to have US recognize the AG. ADL could have stayed neutral, but they were actively working for Turks – what amounted to next phase of the AG at the hands of Turks. That is why I despise that Fascist organization. They were attacking everyone and his brother for supposed Anti-Semitism, while at the same time working for the demise of another ethnos.

    I don’t know what changed recently – maybe planets aligned in our favour – when both houses of Congress overwhelmingly recognized the AG, and now the POTUS also. But Armenians worldwide should never forget nor forgive the treachery.

    Israel is an enemy state of Republic of Armenia. Israel is actively working with Azerbaijan in their agenda of wiping out Armenia.

    * aside from the genocidal Turks, of course, but that’s a different matter.

  236. annamaria says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Like the Machabees, the true ancestors of the modern-day Palestinians?

  237. annamaria says:
    @Charles Martel France

    Poor “Arthur MacBride” (a pseudonym for Kagan?), you certainly do not like the inconvenient facts:

    1. Azerbaijan is a major purchaser of Israeli weapons. … “There should be better ways to nurture important relations than through commiserating over genocide denial,” argued Mouradian.
    2. Another obstacle to Israeli recognition [of Armernina genocide] is the conviction among Jews that the Holocaust, or Shoah, was a unique event in history. “It’s hard for them to accept use of same term,” Lindenstrauss posited. “It’s easier to accept a term like tragedy.”

    In short, the Jews sell the memory of their mothers and fathers for gesheft, and the Jews intend to milking the western civilization for their “incomparable victimhood” while trumping all laws of decency.
    For “Arthur MacBride” attention: Shoa is questionable. Nakba is well documented.

    • Replies: @Arthur MacBride
  238. Hossein says:

    This assault was designed to punish Palestinian civilians for their resilience since the Jew army has no balls to engage in man to man fighting. Had the Jews gone into Gaza their casualties would have been appallingly high.
    17% of those rockets penetrated the American funded “dome”. A disaster that rockets resembling firecrackers can defeat such expensive and loudly touted defense system .
    Jews might wanna buy a one way ticket to NY and live in their luxury schtetls in 5th avenue and Brooklyn. Fresh lux and bagels ,Russian tea and plenty of dumb Goyim to serve them.
    Perfect environment for the racist supremacist Jews.

  239. Anon[217] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Frank taubman

    “ Israelis)would have been the sane thing to do. Problem is Hamas is not sane. They are crazy Jihadist that live on death and destruction.”

    Typical zio hasabara
    Chutzpah after plunging the entire Middle East in the cauldron of violence !

    Well that was the religious duties of M Leden and Feith with help of secular propaganda of Wolfoitz.
    Peace was anathema to PNAC . Netanyahoooooo promised them that he would never implement it
    Shamir told the 1990 ‘s neocons that he would drag Madrid peace process for 10 years after having asserted that terrorism was part of Judaism

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  240. Nancy says:

    I believe that the Hebrews asked for Christ’s execution, and that his blood be on them on their children. So… let’s give credit where credit is due. Not to mention that today’s Talmud Termites teach that Christ is currently boiling in a vat of excrement… could they make it plainer? I’m not ‘anti-semitic’, I just prejudiced against the ‘anti-goyims’.

  241. @Anon

    Yeah did the Jews kill and gas the 1,000,000 Iranians and Iraqis during the 1980 to 1988 war including 500,000 Kurds. Blaming Jews: the job of losers and fantasist failing to acknowledge written Jihadist ideologies calling for the death to whomever is on their hit list. Do you read much Islamic ideology. Sayyid Q’tub? Brush up. It’s all there.

    Shamir told the 1990 ‘s neocons that he would drag Madrid peace process for 10 years after having asserted that terrorism was part of Judaism

    Prove it. Why do Islamist need to blame Jews for being terrorist? That is why you are losers. No accountability. Peddle this horseshit propaganda somewheres else. I know the truth. I am a Jew.

    Jew hatred the breakfast of Champions.

    My name is not Frank it is Fran.

    • Troll: Mulga Mumblebrain
    • Replies: @anon
  242. anon[160] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Do you know how to google ? Once you google and find out about Shamir ,you might start asking about the eruptions of volcanoes in Congo .

  243. Wow, Frank is really getting riled up here. Clearly an emotionally unstable, deeply ignorant, hate-filled semitic supremacist. Most unfortunate.

  244. hillaire says:

    Some interesting and pertinent points raised, and one could see the ‘stolen territory’ as a barometer for the state of western imperialism… it’s lack of dynamism and the absurdity of all it’s premises..

    it’s only a matter of time before large swathes of the non imbecilic begin to question the narrative regarding the national socialists and their demonisation by the so called jewish aristo financialists running the farm..

    particularly the germans experimenting with new ‘economics’ free of the central banking cartel (the main driver of war from the late 19th century specifically by rancid inbred ‘english aristos and their bankers’) and a wholesome and cultural approach to the ‘problems’ of what we refer to as ‘civilisation’..

    and of course the germans ‘cocked up’ with the eternal ‘jewish problem’ by dealing with inbred zionist slavic turk fanatics..

    still contrary to the fakers assertions about ‘hollywood nazis’ (yes i know he’s a russian slav apologist and possibly jewish too) they were the only people trying to oust the central banking ahem semites.. and as history will attest bore no resemblance to these rancorous devil-worshipping throw-backs whatsoever..

  245. Another pathetic screed by Saker. The man gets almost nothing right. Israel won, and Hamas loses again as they reached none of their goals.

    By the by, Putin isn’t able to give Israel any orders and Israel stopped because they wanted to do so. Putin is not the god emperor of anything.

    • Agree: Fran Taubman
  246. “Hamas fired many thousands of missiles into Israel” – I question the number, without having any particular inside info to justify doing so, just a hunch. It’s important to Israel’s leadership to have the citizenry believe that their vaunted Iron Dome missile defense system is effective in thwarting the Palestinian’s missiles. Israelis are aware, more or less, how many missiles were not shot down; they have seen the damage. To limit the psychological effect I believe the Israelis exaggerate how many missiles were fired. If 50 missiles got through, it looks better if that was 1 in 60 (3000 missiles fired) than if it was 1 in 5 (250 missiles fired). Just a guess.

    Couple of other points you might provide insight on for a non-military type. We all saw Iron Dome missiles following erratic paths followed by an explosion when they supposedly intercepted an incoming missile. What happens to an Israeli missile if it doesn’t find a target? Rather than let it fall to earth when it’s run out of fuel and possibly exploding on impact, I suspect the Israeli detonate the missiles explosives in the air remotely. If so, it’s worth speculating on how many of those flashes in the sky we saw were successful shootdowns and how many just meandering missiles self-destructing. Another guess.

    Finally, how the hell did the Palestinians get enough materiel into Gaza to build all those missiles, whatever the count, what with the Israeli and Egyptian blockades?

  247. RobinG says:
    @Ken Meyercord

    Well, some analysts (like Scott Ritter) claim that Israel opted for ceasefire because the iron dome was running low on ammo.

    Here’s Elijah Magnier –
    “Indeed, 7000 new Israeli soldiers were allocated to support the already busy units in charge of the missile interception systems. These had to deal with 4300 rockets and missiles fired in just 11 days of the war. Other Israeli military units were alert to prepare for a possible but limited Gaza invasion (that never took place).”

    • Replies: @Ken Meyercord
  248. @Avery

    I followed the sad and painful events that took place in Nagorno Karabakh closely through because I care a lot about Armenia and the Armenian people. It was disappointing that America, specially the conservatives, didn’t intervene to prevent the Turks from adding more crimes to their past genocidal crimes. I hear that the Azeris ( Turks ) are destroying historical Churches in Nagorno Karabakh. May God protect Armenia.

  249. @Ken Meyercord

    Finally, how the hell did the Palestinians get enough materiel into Gaza to build all those missiles, whatever the count, what with the Israeli and Egyptian blockades?

    EXPLAINER: How did Hamas grow its arsenal to strike Israel?

    Hamas has lobbed more than 4,000 projectiles into Israel in this fourth bloody war between Israel and the Islamic militant group.

    • Replies: @Ken Meyercord
  250. @Ken Meyercord

    “…Finally, how the hell did the Palestinians get enough materiel into Gaza to build all those missiles, whatever the count, what with the Israeli and Egyptian blockades..?”

    The only possible answer is that there are some among the Egyptian border guards who sympathize with the Gazans and let weapons and material through. Israel should insist on controlling the border between Gaza and Egypt too. Then “only Allah can help Hamas”.

  251. @Charles Martel France

    I don’t put much credence in this article (we have spy satellites that can pick out the nose hairs on a camel and we couldn’t detect missiles being “trucked across Egypt’s vast desert”?), but it does make one interesting point: “Hamas militants opened unexploded Israeli missiles from previous strikes to extract explosive materials”. Could be the Palestinian’s main support came from Israel in this manner, not Iran.

    • Replies: @Charles Martel France
  252. @Franklin Ryckaert

    I concur with this explanation. Israel can insist, but unless we (the US) come through with a carrot totaling in the billions of dollars, I doubt if Egypt would accept this insult to their sovereignty.

  253. @RobinG

    Basically agree, but I would think we could resupply Israel overnight and that that’s primarily what the $735 million in emergency aid was about, not precision guided missiles as the obfusacators in the corporate media would have us believe.

  254. @Ken Meyercord

    ….but it does make one interesting point: “Hamas militants opened unexploded Israeli missiles from previous strikes to extract explosive materials

    The detail is in this video ( Aljazeera Arabic ) :

  255. @Ken Meyercord

    I found the answer to my own question. If Iron Dome missiles do not engage a target, they self-destruct (see link: So, next time there’s a missile duel, don’t assume every time there is a flash in the sky that it is an Israeli missile destroying one from Gaza.

  256. Sad as is the destruction Israel caused in Gaza, it is minor compared to what we did to Mosul in (ostensibly) liberating that Iraqi city from the Islamic State or what we did to Hamburg in WWII. It’s well to recognize that Israel could turn Gaza into Mosul (or Hamburg) whenever it felt it was in its interest to do so. Moreover, they could exact a much worse human toll without even dropping a bomb: they could just turn off the water.

  257. @Ken Meyercord

    So, next time there’s a missile duel, don’t assume every time there is a flash in the sky that it is an Israeli missile destroying one from Gaza.

    From the video it doesn’t look like the “Iron Dome” does much of anything other than nice fireworks display. Israel is going to lose this. They can go bomb Iran out of frustration but I think that will just be digging their grave deeper.

  258. anon[350] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ken Meyercord

    Israel gets 1 billion from USA to replenish the coffers depleted in this war . Hamas get nothing . So it improvises,smuggles and improves upon old tech . 1 billion from USA defrays many other costs like feeding its population, building some homes in West Bank and sending some back to USA to influence Lindsey, Cruz and few other.

    While stupidest Greene thinks that Israeli laser from the sky destroyed the California wilderness .

    It is like killing snake for no reason other than for the snake being being a man- eating alien . That understanding evokes jeers and smirk and only helps the venomous snake to survive, hide,and then kill the prey .

    Learn Greene ,get few more brain cells .

  259. @Ken Meyercord

    Another way Israel ups the effectiveness of the Iron Dome has come to mind. According to the article cited previously, the Battle Management and Weapon Control System (BMC) of the Iron Dome calculates the trajectory of rockets coming from Gaza and (in the minute or so it takes for the rocket to impact) calculates its trajectory and, if it’s not likely to do any harm, Israel does not try to shoot it down. So, any rocket which lands harmlessly in a field is not one that got through Israeli defenses, it’s one Israel let through. Right. These people may not be master of the skies, but they surely are masters of chutzpah!

  260. annamaria says:
    @Ken Meyercord

    “it is minor compared to what we did to Mosul in (ostensibly) liberating that Iraqi city from the Islamic State…”
    — You are misinformed about the “liberating:”
    “Blowback: How ISIS was created by the U.S. invasion of Iraq:”

    Had it not been for Bush’s catastrophic [and illegal] decision to invade and occupy Iraq in 2003, in defiance of international law, the world’s most feared terrorist group would not exist…

    Who has been arming ISIS?:

    Weapons the United States originally supplied to Syrian rebels [moderate terrorists] have ended up in the hands of ISIS.

    US and Saudi Arabia arms significantly enhanced ISIS’ military capabilities

    Also, there is an open secret re US presence in the Middle East:

    The [Oded Yinon Plan] operates on two essential premises. To survive, Israel must 1) become an imperial regional power, and 2) must effect the division of the whole area into small states by the dissolution of all existing Arab states.

    Oded Yinon Plan is Israel’s plan to completely destroy the Middle East and then rebuild the entire area as “GREATER ISRAEL” using the United States as the murdering fool to do all of the destroying…

    The victims:

    A “staggering rise” in birth defects among Iraqi children conceived in the aftermath of the war has been linked to military assaults, according to a new study. Reports of increased miscarriages, lead and mercury poisoning, congenital heart problems, brain defects, and malformed limbs appear to be worse in children born in Fallujah, where the U.S. launched two devastating military assaults eight years ago. American forces admitted to using white phosphorous shells during the bombardment.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  261. @Ken Meyercord

    They already have turned off the water, Moshe-do try and keep up with the mitvot/atrocities.

  262. @annamaria

    The horrors of Fallujah are due in large part to depleted uranium munitions, a weapon so Satanic that only the dead souls of Thanatopia would use it, with glee. The ‘ceramised nano-particles’ left behind will be radio-active for millions of years, killing and moving on for all Eternity.

  263. @Franklin Ryckaert

    You’re plainly the type of Talmudic Zionazi who thoroughly enjoys the murder of defenceless children.

  264. Turk 152 says:

    Geez, “Should be considered a participant in Turks’ ongoing program to extinguish Armenia, which is tantamount to the eventual extinction of Armenians worldwide.”

    Yeah man, as UNZ token Turk, I am dutifully sitting in my basement praying to the Ottoman Gods and endlessly plotting, Bwah, ha, ha.

    The recent cockup with Azerbajan has everything to do with your Prime Minister’s bungling, naively siding with JUSA and expecting a Putin bail out after torching that relationship, something you failed to mention and hopefully most Unz readers understand. Could it be that these facts contradict your programming?

    Despite all that, I personally express condolences for your country’s unfortunate recent losses.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  265. Turk 152 says:

    One follow up comment in case I wasn’t clear, trusting JUSA is never in a doormat vasal state’s best interests.

  266. RobinG says:
    @Turk 152

    Are you in Turkey? I realize that each country has its own interests, but for the last 10 years I’ve often been baffled why Turkey did this or that. Of course, it’s not the only dealer to sell arms to both sides of a conflict, or to an apparent enemy. Now, it would appear from this article that Turkey is selling drones to Israel. (If not, who is using them in Syria?) No doubt they’re proud to be the industry leaders. The TRT show Teşkilat takes every chance to feature their precision attack drones.

    Ukraine is also acquiring Turkish-made Bayrakter TB2 drones, hoping to buy up to 48 of them. TB2s used by Azerbaijan were extremely effective against Armenian military targets during their brief war late last year.

    TB2s have also reportedly been effective against Russian Pantsir-S1 air-defense systems in Libya and Syria. Pantsir-S1s have been spotted in Ukraine, and Russian officials have expressed dismay about TB2 drones operating there.

    • Replies: @Turk 152
  267. Turk 152 says:

    I do agree that there are severe problems in the way the Turkish government handles minorities and the nationalism that they foment in their followers. However, to generalize the behavior of 80 million people is quite another thing. The Armenian rhetoric is to condemn the entire country, which just plays into racism and colonization goals.

    In terms of the defense industry, I am not sure how anyone in the US can look down their nose at the scraps that Turkey is picking up. Turkey isnt even in the top 10 in the market.

    At the end of the day, I and many other Turks, look at Erdogan and his Muslim Brotherhood origins as an MI-6/CIA concoction. Perhaps you can explain to me the US and UK goals in the Middle East, so I can tell you why Erdogan does what he does. We get the leaders US intelligence agencies want, not the leaders we deserve.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  268. lydia says:
    US Intelligence Reveals Israel Has Bombed “Dozens” Of Iranian Oil Tankers

    THURSDAY, MAR 11, 2021


    All signs are currently pointing to serious escalation in the Middle East between Israel, Iran, and involving the United States – particularly after Israel’s recent claim of an Iranian sponsored attack on an Israeli-owned cargo ship in the Gulf of Oman two weeks ago.

    Signaling the likelihood that another red hot ‘tanker war’ is set for regional waters within the upcoming months, a new bombshell report in The Wall Street Journal on Thursday reveals Israeli intelligence has been waging its own tanker sabotage campaign against the Iranians over the past two years, in order to thwart what Tel Aviv believes are illegal oil shipments that result in funds for terror groups.

    “Israel has targeted at least a dozen vessels bound for Syria and mostly carrying Iranian oil out of concern that petroleum profits are funding extremism in the Middle East, US and regional officials say, in a new front in the conflict between Israel and Iran,” the WSJ writes.

    Previously published photos of Iranian-owned Sabiti oil tanker sailing in the Red Sea, October 13, 2019.
    It also appears part of the Israeli and US campaign to essentially starve the Assad government and bring it to its knees, further amidst near weekly Israeli airstrikes inside the war-torn country. The new report clearly suggests US intelligence officials knew about the covert tanker sabotage campaign in real time, and may have even assisted in some level of the planning or operations. Remember too that during the final months of the Trump administration Pompeo was essentially told he could go “gloves off” when it comes to greenlighting Israeli sabotage against Iran.

    Officials say the covert espionage campaign has been underway going back to late 2019, which featured water mines being secretly attached to ships in order to stop ‘sanctions-busting activity’ in places like the Red Sea – which is a transit route the Islamic Republic uses to resupply its ally Syria of badly needed oil and fuel.

    Interestingly, Iran has actually loudly claimed to be victim of precisely such Israeli mine and bomb attacks on the high seas in the recent past, which starting in 2019 were even reported in Israeli media.

    See for example the below…

    “In an episode last month, suspected Israeli operatives attached a limpet mine to attack an Iranian vessel as it anchored near Lebanon to deliver Iran oil to Syria, according to the first shipping professional,” WSJ continues.

    “The attacks on the tankers carrying Iranian oil haven’t been previously disclosed. Iranian officials have reported some of the attacks earlier and have said they suspect Israeli involvement.” But typically when it’s the Iranians, Russians or Syrians making the allegations it gets ignored or batted down in Western press.

    The rationale provided for such attacks in the report also includes that Iran’s elite Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) typically operate or provide security for the tankers bound for Syria. All of this helps explain what appears to be Iranian retaliation over the past year – again, particularly the latest bombing incident against the Israeli-owned cargo ship Helios Ray in the Gulf of Oman.

    The Israeli initiative also appears aimed at ensuring the disruption of Biden’s stated plans to rejoin the Iran nuclear deal.

    Chief executive for the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, Mark Dubowitz, summarized Tel Aviv’s approach as follows: “Israel stepped up the game beyond sanctions to sabotage,” he was quoted in WSJ as saying. “The Red Sea sabotage is keeping with a broader economic warfare campaign.”

  269. RobinG says:
    @Turk 152

    Did you respond this way because you perceived me to be hostile? Whatever. Even so, you alluded to what is one of my theories, that Erdogan not so much hated Assad as sought to please NATO, or just caved to US pressure. And I don’t really believe all the Muslim Brotherhood scare mongering.

    Earlier, I did a small facepalm… When I hear ‘Syria’ I tend to forget about the border. It may be just Turkey using their drones against the Kurds. BTW, you shouldn’t be so modest: theTB2 is now the top of the heap.

    • Replies: @Turk 152
  270. Turk 152 says:

    No, I did not perceive you to be hostile, its just part of my amazing charm. Since you seem to have some interest in geopolitics in the ME, may I suggest you read Secret Affairs, Britain’s Collusion with Radical Islam by Mark Curtis. I think the Kurds are the latest US patsies for the Greater Middle East Project and are also just going to get themselves killed as a handful of Kurdish leaders get showered with guns and oil money for “The Cause”. The filth of Obama/Clinton/Sarkozy, et. al’s Syrian War completely corrupted whatever good may have come out of Erdogan.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  271. L.K says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    Franklin Ryckaert

    The only possible answer is that there are some among the Egyptian border guards who sympathize with the Gazans and let weapons and material through. Israel should insist on controlling the border between Gaza and Egypt too. Then “only Allah can help Hamas”.

    Spoken like the true Zionist activist that you really are, eh Franklin?

    AAron, A123, lot, Fran whatever, they are all proud of you!

    Unfortunately for the lot of you, REALITY on the ground is shaping up in ways very different from your FANTASIES.

    Former MI6 and British diplomat, Alastair Crooke, explains in “The ‘Missile Intifada’ Brings an Era Crashing Down”:

    this whole ark of military strategy rooted in massive aerial bombardment – reaching back to the 1920s, and pushing forward until today in Gaza, is expiring. It has become obsolescent (at least in the Middle East), just as did trench warfare in the wake of 1918. …

    It is clear that the Hamas rocket barrage took Israel (and Washington) by surprise. t may not have sunk in fully, but the Israeli-Palestinian conflict will never be the same again. …

    Israel is spinning victory (rooted in its destruction of Hamas tunnels), yet facing failure – as in 2006. Credible reports suggest that the IDF strategy hinged on its confidence that they had mapped the Gaza tunnels. So that when the army deliberately launched the rumour of an impending Gaza ground invasion, they calculated that the Hamas leadership immediately would take to the tunnels, which the Israeli Air Force would then bomb, thus burying the movement alive. Only it didn’t happen – Hamas’ leadership were not in those tunnels, and the missiles did not cease. …

    Aluf Benn sums it up, in Haaretz (where he is editor-in-chief):

    “You can feed the public with news broadcasts arrogantly talking about “the painful blows we’ve delivered to Hamas” and showcase the pilot who killed an Islamic Jihad commander – while forgetting that this was an advanced fighter jet with precision armaments attacking an apartment building – as a modern-day version of Judah the Maccabee or Meir Har-Zion. But all these layers of makeup can’t cover up the truth: The military has no idea how to paralyze Hamas’ forces and throw it off balance. …

    one Israeli contrarian who was not locked into the prevailing mindset: “The sharpest critic of the army brass in recent years, warned that the next war would be fought on the home front – [and] that Israel had no answer to attacks involving thousands of missiles – and which its land forces aren’t able to fight”. That was Maj. Gen. Yitzhak Brik’s warning, but as so often with contrarians, he was ostracised and ignored. …

    The long ark of the strategy of bombing civilian terrains (justified by saying that terrorists are hiding there), may be reaching its ‘sell-by’ date, as Human Rights become the touchstone of foreign policy (as well as commanding domestic U.S. policy).

    This carries implications for the U.S. and NATO, as much as for Israel. …

    The last reason why the Israeli-Palestinian conflict will not be same again is that the collective eruption across historical Palestine has unified and mobilised the Palestinian people – under Hamas’ military leadership. The latter are perceived as the only force capable of protecting Al-Aqsa mosque – threatened by settler attempts to seize it; or burn it – a real threat with the potential to inflame Muslims across the globe.

    As Gaza quietens for now, the next phase to this war likely will centre around Al-Aqsa, Jerusalem and the 1948 Palestinian communities within Israel. Israelis face a new reality: Hamas is not ‘over there’, but is everywhere around them; and furthermore, they also know that the possibility of the (likely) coming Right-wing coalition in Israel acquiescing to this new paradigm is zero.

  272. @annamaria

    @Charles Martel France

    Poor “Arthur MacBride” (a pseudonym for Kagan?), you certainly do not like the inconvenient facts:


    For “Arthur MacBride” attention: Shoa is questionable. Nakba is well documented.

    A mystery dear lady that you are addressing me in a reply to “Charles Martel France”, who is probably a zio-troll … Is this another brain-storm ?

    Is it time to put the cork in the bottle, annamaria ?

    Here is a nice concert in Amsterdam for you.
    Maybe help to restore your sanity, if it exists at all.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  273. annamaria says:
    @Arthur MacBride

    It seems that I have answered the wrong person; perhaps because of your and “Martel” ideological proximity.

  274. RobinG says:
    @Turk 152

    Thanks. Look up the Kargu-2. I’m not offering opinion, just saying it’s here. Turkey’s military edge.

    Libyan Fighters Attacked by a Potentially Unaided Drone, U.N. Says

  275. reoccupation of the gaza is not what Israel wants.
    no one wants to be responsible for the terrorist nest. let them rot there.
    On another hand, there is a lot of ammo, needed to be used, because it is becoming old, live training of the soldiers and testing of new technology.
    Gaza is a perfect training ground. So let islamoterrorists rot in their $hithole.

  276. @grr

    Actually, Hamas is just one node of a well equipped resistance movement.

    What the MSM doesn’t say is that Yemeni soldiers were fighting in Gaza and some die and their funerals held in Gaza and Quods!!

    Yemen asked Hamas to provide the targets that they should hit in the occupied territories and Hamas asked them to wait for Israel to cross a certain red line in the fight…. Yemenis were ready to neutralize the Eliat port infrastructure on the Red Sea – the same thing they’re doing in Saudi Arabia (They just occupied 150 sqkm of Saudi territory last week in Jizan!)

    The Iraqis sent drones into Israel through Jordan repeatedly to film Israeli positions and transfer the targets in real time to Gaza for precise attacks. The Iron Dome was useless and they had to use an F-16 to bring down one of the Iraqi drones. Imagine a military using the most expensive fighter jet to go after a $300 drone!! This is a joke.

    The Hizbollah was also waiting for the call from Gaza in order to intervene – There were two operation rooms: one in Gaza and one in Lebanon. In Gaza Ansarallah, Hamas and Islamic Jihad were in charge. In Lebanon the Hizbollah, Iran and Hamas were coordinating remote preparations.

    What happened between May 10 and May 21 in the occupied territories is the beginning of the end of the US/Israeli hegemony in the Middle East. Almost the same thing as the Suez Canal war in 1956 that finished off the Brutish empire. Gamal Nasser defeated the Brutish, French and Israeli navies and was able to nationalize the Suez Canal.

    What the MSM doesn’t say is that:

    1 – The US PAC-2, PC-3 and THAAD have been made obsolete in Saudi Arabia by Ansarallah

    2- The same ABM systems failed miserably in Iraq when Iran launched 13 ballistic missiles into the biggest US military base in 2020.

    3- The Iraqis are attacking at will all US military bases in Iraq using drones that are NEVER intercepted!!

    4- The Gaza Resistance in 11 days proved without any doubt that the Israel PAC-2, PAC-3, and Iron Dome are useless. And they did not even use their drone swarms by the time Israel had begged Egypt for a cease fire.

    That’s a fatal psychological blow to Israel in the region and whether they understand the meaning or not, they’re doomed. Their weaknesses have been unmasked and they are in trouble.

    Also, of the 4000+ precision guided missiles that the US sent from Germany in C-17 flights, 1200 fell on Gaza without exploding and Hamas is busy reverse engineering them for the next war. If they can figure out a way of using those 1200 JDAM GPS guidance kits on drones, Israel will be in serious trouble.

    Israel used F-35 that cost $150million a copy to launch JDAM bombs on Gaza and the precision was less than 3% because they were launched from a very high altitude in order to avoid surface to air missiles….

    • Agree: Truth Vigilante
    • Replies: @anon
  277. anon[185] • Disclaimer says:

    Thanks for this, Nostradamus.

    If you could provide any source links for what you’ve written, or recommend any websites with current, relevant information regarding the situation in Palestine, I would really appreciate it.

  278. anon[385] • Disclaimer says:

    I wonder when Saker will notice that Iran is sending ships to Venezuela again. We all recall how excited he got over a couple of fuel tankers, wondering if Trump would start war. Of course it did not happen.

    Now a little different situation exists, these are not tankers, and Biden’s regime is making noises.

    Six days ago? Yet Saker has apparently missed it. Maybe CNN didn’t tell him yet what to notice?

  279. Anonymous[144] • Disclaimer says:

    You don’t know what Anti-Semite means?

  280. Yes, it is quite a dilemma for the Jews. The trends are going against them. Iran has 80 mil souls. Israel has 9 mil, maybe 6-7 mil of which are Jews. If you add all the other neighboring populations, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, it is another 50-60 mil. The only reason Israel still exists is because of better weapons and one sided support by the dominant powers which was the West.

    The Iranians are trying to modernize their economy. Among the Muslim countries in that region, they have the best hope of doing so. Once they do, Israel’s position will become increasingly untenable. This is the reason why the U.S. continue to sanction the Iranians. They don’t all have to have F-35 etc. the Iranians just need to get to one generation behind and have enough to defend themselves. While Israel does have the bomb, Long term wear on the country, if the trade is 3-4 to one, will be deadly for Israel. Modern missiles with GPS will, with enough of them, be as effective as nuclear bombs due to their increased accuracy.

    Their backers, the U.S. and the West in general, are on the wane. Having lost the war with Syria and now getting out of Afghanistan, Israel is fearing being abandon by Uncle Sam. With the rise of China and the Russians as the third pole, Iran is aided by these two. Today, Israel still can bomb Iraq, but soon, that will bring effective retaliation. With their Jewish media going full tilt in the battle with China, the Chinese could use a conflict such as this one or similar ones in the future to squeeze Israel in order to extract concessions out of the Jewish groups in the West.

    In a couple of decades, when the writing is on the wall that the U.S. will become number two, life will become dicier for Israel. There is no way to get into the power structure of the Chinese or Russians for that matter. Once the U.S. gives up hegemonic rule of the world and retreats back to North America, it will be a very interesting time for the Middle East and Israel.

  281. @Mike Fridelle

    If Americans knew about Palestine, things might change.

Current Commenter

Leave a Reply - Comments on articles more than two weeks old will be judged much more strictly on quality and tone

 Remember My InformationWhy?
 Email Replies to my Comment
Submitted comments have been licensed to The Unz Review and may be republished elsewhere at the sole discretion of the latter
Commenting Disabled While in Translation Mode
Subscribe to This Comment Thread via RSS Subscribe to All The Saker Comments via RSS
The Shaping Event of Our Modern World
Analyzing the History of a Controversial Movement
Our Reigning Political Puppets, Dancing to Invisible Strings