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American soldiers can still win wars, but it has to be a real war where there is something genuine at stake, like protecting one’s home and family.

It hardly made the evening news, but the New York Times reported last week that after twenty years of fighting the Taliban are confident that they will fully control Afghanistan before too long whether or not the United States decides to leave some kind of residual force in the country after May 1st. The narrative is suggestive of The Mouse that Roared, lacking only Peter Sellers to put the finishing touches on what has to be considered a great humiliation for the U.S., which has a “defense” budget that is larger than the combined military spending of the next seven countries in order of magnitude. Those numbers include both Russia and China. The Taliban, on the other hand, have no military budget to speak of. That enormous disparity, un-reflected in who has won and lost, has to nurture concerns that it is the world’s only superpower, admittedly self-proclaimed, which is incapable of actually winning a war against anyone.

In fact, some recent wargaming has suggested that the United States would lose in a non-nuclear conflict with China alone based on the obsolescence of expensive and vulnerable weapons systems that the Pentagon relies upon, such as carrier groups. Nations like China, Iran and Russia that have invested in sophisticated and much cheaper missile systems to offset U.S. advantages have reportedly spent their money wisely. If the Biden foreign policy and military experts, largely embroiled in diversifying the country, choose to take on China, there may be no one left around to pick up the pieces.

Those who are warning of the apparent ineffectiveness of the U.S. armed forces in spite of their global presence in more than one thousand bases point most commonly to the historical record to make their case. Korea, fought under United Nations auspices, was a stalemate, with the peninsula divided to this day and a substantial American military force continuing to be a presence along the DMZ to enforce the armistice that not quite ended the war. Vietnam was a defeat, resulting in more than 58,000 Americans dead as well as an estimated 3 million Vietnamese, most of whom were civilians. The real lesson learned from Vietnam was that fighting on someone else’s turf where you have no real interests or stake in the outcome is a fool’s game, but the Pentagon instead worked to fix the mechanics in weapons and training at great cost without addressing why people fight wars in the first place. The other lesson was that the United States’ military was perfectly willing to lie to the country’s civilian leadership to expand the war and keep it going, a performance that was repeated in 2001 with the “Iraq is supporting terrorists and will have nuclear weapons” lies and also with the current crop of false analogies used to keep thousands of Americans in Afghanistan and the Middle East.

As a veteran of the Vietnam War army, I can recall sitting around with fellow enlisted men reading “Stars & Stripes,” the exclusive in-house-for-the-military newspaper that was covering the war. The paper quoted a senior officer who opined that the Soviets (as they were at that time) were really envious of the combat experience that the United States Army was obtaining in Vietnam. We all laughed. That same officer probably had a staff position away from the fighting but we draftees knew well that the war was a very bloody mistake while he may have tested his valor post-retirement working for Lockheed-Martin. The “Soviets” in any event demonstrated just how much they envied the experience of combat when they fought in Afghanistan in the 1980s, eventually withdrawing with their tails between their legs just as the U.S. had done in Vietnam after they lost 15,000 men. The “Grave of Empires,” indeed.

Since Vietnam there have been a number of small wars in places like Panama and Grenada, but the global war on terror has been a total disaster for American arms. Afghanistan, as it was for the Russians, is the ulcer that keeps on bleeding until it ends as a major defeat for the United States with the Taliban fully in control, as they are now predicting. Likewise, the destruction of a secular Iraq, regime change in Libya, and a continuing war against a non-threatening Syria have all failed to make Americans either safer or more prosperous. Iran is next, apparently, if the Joe Biden Administration has its way, and relations with major adversaries Russia and China have sunk even lower than they were during Donald Trump’s time as president. The White House has recently sent a shipload of offensive weapons to Kiev and the Ukrainian government has repeated its intention to retake Crimea from Russia, a formula for a new military disaster that could easily escalate into a major war. What is particularly regrettable is the fact that the United States has no compelling national interest in encouraging open warfare between Moscow and Kiev, a conflict that it will be unable to avoid as its is supplying Ukraine with weaponry.

There was almost no discussion of America’s wars during the recent election. One should take note, however, of a recent article by former Assistant Secretary of Defense Lawrence Korb that appeared on National Review which seeks to provide an explanation for “The Real Reason the U.S. Can’t Win Wars Anymore” in spite of the fact that it is “the most powerful country in the history of the world.” To be sure, Korb largely blames the policymakers for the defeat in Vietnam, aided and abetted by a culture of silence in the military where many officers knew that the Gulf of Tonkin incident, which escalated the conflict, was a fraud but chose to say or do nothing. He also observes that the war itself was unwinnable for various reasons, including the observation by many working and middle class Americans that they were little more than cannon fodder while the country’s elites either dodged the draft or exploited their status to obtain national guard or reserve commissions that were known to be mechanism to avoid Vietnam. Korb notes that “…the four most recent presidents who could have served in Vietnam avoided that war and the draft by dubious means. Bill Clinton pretended to join the Army ROTC; George W. Bush used political connections to get into the Air National Guard, when President Johnson made it clear that the reserve component would not be activated to fight the war; Donald Trump, of course, had his family physician claim he had bone spurs, (Trump himself cannot remember which foot); and Joe Biden claimed that the asthma he had in high school prevented him from serving even though he brags about his athletic exploits while in high school.”

Korb also reveals how America’s presumed prowess on the battlefield has distorted its “democracy building” endeavors to such an extent that genuine national interests have been ignored. When the U.S. invaded Afghanistan, success in overthrowing the Taliban was derived from critical assistance from Iran, which correctly regarded the extremist Sunni group as an enemy. But the Bush White House, far from showing gratitude, soon thereafter added Iran to its “axis of evil” list. A golden opportunity was wasted to repair a relationship which has poisoned America’s presence in the Middle East ever since.

One might add something else to Korb’s assessment of failure at war. Most American soldiers have been and are proud of their service and consider it an honor to defend their country but the key word is “defend.” There was no defending going on in Vietnam nor in Afghanistan, which did not attack the U.S. and was willing to turn over Osama Bin Laden if the White House could provide evidence that he was involved in 9/11. Nor was there anything defensive about Obama’s destruction of Libya and the decades long “secret” wars to overthrow the Syrian and Iranian governments. Soldiers are trained to fight and obey orders but that does not mean that they can no longer observe and think. Twenty years of “Reconstruction” duty in Afghanistan is not defending the United States and the morale of American soldiers in the combined Democratic and Republican Parties’ plan to reconstruct the world is not a sufficient motivator if one is being asked to put one’s life on the line. Sure, American soldiers can still win wars, but it has to be a real war where there is something genuine at stake, like protecting one’s home and family. That is what the people who run Washington, very few of whom are veterans and most of whom first ask “But what’s in it for me?” fail to understand.

Philip Giraldi, Ph.D. is Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest.

(Republished from Strategic Culture Foundation by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. anon[177] • Disclaimer says:

    They need the troops in Opiumstan to be in Kiev (or Syria, or Venezuela, or South China Sea, or Myanmar). They are needed everywhere except where adolescents are sex-trafficked and narcotics smuggled…….our own southern border.

    The Qanon stuff is still promising something at the end of April, which means the Deep State is desperate that white men stay enlisted for about amother month…………..I wonder what suprises they have planned? Iran? We might have George Floyd riots all over again in a few weeks also. Wars and Rumors of war. Where have I heard that?

  2. Rich says:

    1. North Korea invaded S Korea, they were driven out of the country. That’s called a win.
    2. The US won every major battle, forced the N Vietnamese to negotiate a peace deal, then left. When a government friendly to the communists took power in DC the US didn’t intervene. That’s not a defeat.
    3. As of this date, the US still occupies Afghanistan, the war was won. The occupation goes the way of most occupations and we’ll have to wait and see who ends up on top. If 20 years from now the Taliban is in power will the threat of their defeat be considered a defeat?

    When someone writes innaccurately it kind of weakens their whole argument.

  3. And I thought satire was dead,

    Thanks.

  4. Derer says:

    Rich, you need to make that visit…they can help you. Do not delay it. US most expensive military only succeeded in small island of Grenada. Stop hallucinating.

  5. Iris says:

    If the Biden foreign policy and military experts, largely embroiled in diversifying the country, choose to take on China, there may be no one left around to pick up the pieces.

    But America is controlled by an ideological faction who promotes the contrary thesis.

    Robert Kagan has recently argued that the pursuit of global hegemony and empire building is, according to him, the only way to preserve “democracy” at home and keep America together as a national construct.

    A Superpower, Like It or Not – Why Americans Must Accept Their Global role

    https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/united-states/2021-02-16/superpower-it-or-not

    The Israeli faction promotes the idea of empire-building as national raison d’etre; it is the main driver of US imperial foreign wars, and it does not care whether America wins or loses these wars, as long as the world is carved to Israel’s agenda in the process.

  6. @anon

    “Wars and Rumors of war. Where have I heard that?”

    Do not forget “Fear not”, there is a reason that is repeated over 120 times in the book you are thinking about🤗

  7. “Bill Clinton pretended to join the Army ROTC;
    George W. Bush used political connections to get into the Air National Guard
    Donald Trump, of course, had his family physician claim he had bone spurs,
    Joe Biden claimed that the asthma he had in high school prevented him from serving even though he brags about his athletic exploits while in high school.”

    “Men are apt to be deceived both with respect to their own dispositions and those of others. Though this truth is proved by almost every page of the history of nations, to wit, that power, lodged in the hands of rulers to be used at discretion, is almost always exercised to the oppression of the people, and the aggrandizement of themselves; yet most men think if it was lodged in their hands they would not employ it in this manner.”

    • Replies: @Jud Jackson
  8. Trinity says:

    “Asthma?” Holy shit, I have heard it all now. smdh and laughing to keep from crying. What sports did Joltin’ Joe play in high school? Good gawd, that must have been some sort of private school or who knows. That dude doesn’t or rather didn’t have an athletic bone in his body.

    Would be interesting to know how many people in Washington even served during peace time in the military much less fought in wars overseas and/or abroad. You just know that Chuck Schumer would have been a helluva a Marine.

    • Agree: Orville H. Larson
  9. @Rich

    Did North Korea invade South Korea? Look more closely. And look at how murderous the American occupation of South Korea had been beforehand. Murderous of all dissident South Koreans.

    • Replies: @GomezAdddams
  10. Twenty years of “Reconstruction” duty in Afghanistan is not defending the United States and the morale of American soldiers in the combined Democratic and Republican Parties’ plan to reconstruct the world is not a sufficient motivator if one is being asked to put one’s life on the line.

    Indeed.

    Yeah … It was fairly obvious from the onset that America’s Afghani satrap would have its posterior handed to it. 3,000 casualties per month? My Lord …

    Like it or not, the Taliban represent the majority interest in their country. They’ve always had the upper hand in terms of motivation and always will.

    We would do far better to restore this country to its bedrock principles of governance. Now there’s some motivation for you.

    • Agree: Mark G.
    • Replies: @Supply and Demand
  11. Daniel H says:
    @Rich

    1. North Korea invaded S Korea, they were driven out of the country. That’s called a win.

    2. The US won every major battle, forced the N Vietnamese to negotiate a peace deal, then left. When a government friendly to the communists took power in DC the US didn’t intervene. That’s not a defeat.

    3. As of this date, the US still occupies Afghanistan, the war was won. The occupation goes the way of most occupations and we’ll have to wait and see who ends up on top. If 20 years from now the Taliban is in power will the threat of their defeat be considered a defeat?

    1) The US army drove the rag-tag north Korean force all the way to the Chinese border. The Chinese intervened and drove the US army down to the current DMZ. That’s called a defeat, or at best a draw.

    2) That old myth, told so often by war-boys, that the US army never lost a battle in Vietnam. The body count thing, and we know that the US army falsely inflated the enemy body count, because what else did they have to show for their destructive efforts, and so when a Vietcong/NVA force ambushes an American patrol, leaves anywhere from 1-20 American dead/wounded and retreats into the forest, pretty much unscathed to fight and ambush another day, but the brass claims victory because body-count, except they can never account for the enemy dead that is claimed, and the brass brings up the preposterous lie that the VC/NVA are fastidious about leaving dead bodies behind so they always manage to cart them away with them when they withdraw. Yeah, right. Just stop the BS and call it what it is, a defeat And when this scenarios is repeated hundreds of times that’s a lot of defeat.

    When the NVA army surrounds a major American base and air field (Khe Sanh) besieges and cuts road contact for 6 weeks, shells and mortars the besieged, who can’t even so much as land a plane to resupply, leaves 100s dead and wounded, then silently disengages and stealthily disappears into the forest, well that is a massive defeat for the USA, but again, war-boys love to wave around the body-count flag, because that is all they had.

    When the USA, in terror, evacuates it’s embassy desperately flying out the ambassador and staff in a helicopter, leaving hundreds of others behind in the embassy grounds, that dude is a humiliating defeat. And why did we evacuate the embassy? The honorable thing to do was to remain in the embassy and accept a delegation from the NVA and negotiate our continued representation in the country. But nevermind.

    All the hippies, long hairs, peaceniks, flower children, dissenters, Quakers, et. al. were right about Vietnam and the war-boys were wrong.

  12. anon[299] • Disclaimer says:

    This is great, palpably honest. Makes me wonder how that Nam disillusion left CIA unscathed for so long. State indoctrination is like waterweed tangling you up. You have to peel it off you carefully like lots of clothes. It took years to disentangle me.

    I fear the US is leaving Afghanistan solely to free up scanty resources for war with Russia and China. They are going to lose that war really fast:

    https://niqnaq.wordpress.com/2021/04/08/an-interesting-interview-and-a-cartoon/

    The SCO & observers are done taking shit from the CIA regime. To attain its objective the SCO might have to decapitate the beltway. You hope that not too many bureaucrats will have to die. But that’s the only way we will get free, so whatever it takes.

  13. Anon[879] • Disclaimer says:

    Nicholas Farrelly a professor and head of social sciences at the University of Tasmania writes and sees promises of freedom in Hollywood ideals reaching diverse and deep reaches of the unknown world .
    He possibly touts the successes of the wars initiated by Hollywood – Military complex .

    “Today’s protests in Thailand join adjacent movements in Myanmar and Hong Kong where young people, often
    …….With the three-fingered “Hunger Games” salute as an obvious example, meme-worthy content has shifted the expectations of an entire generation.

    Activists in all three countries, and more widely in East
    The generational divide is stark.

    Now it is the digital natives – born into societies that had already accumulated the new technologies of rapid-fire communication and social interaction – that are furious with the abandonment of democracy by their elders.

    While some activists may still look to the United States or other distant democracies for inspiration, many find aspirational models in popular culture’s re-configurations of justice and freedom. For many, the “Hunger Games” trilogy set out human aspirations for self-determination in a fictionalized dystopian, authoritarian quagmire.

    In that story, young, fit, brave fighters …..

    After Thailand’s 2014 coup against the government led by Yingluck Shinawatra, the first defiant protesters on the streets of Bangkok co-opted the now famous three-fingered “Hunger Games” salute as a symbol of their solidarity. It is a generational marker, too, one that speaks to the shared Hollywood ideals that have shaped a whole generation’s political awareness across Asia.

    https://thediplomat.com/2021/03/asias-youth-in-revolt/

  14. America’s bloviating foreign policy is detestable.

    On the other hand my Fidelity Defense mutual fund is returning 10% this year.

  15. anon[205] • Disclaimer says:

    Before Amurderka leaves Afganistan, one last B-52 sortie
    dropping neocons wearing thick, policy-paper boots. No chutes.

    Good for Afganistan’s soil. Good for America’s soul.

    The Kagans can be a team drop followed by Kristol’s war crying.

    So many neo/Yidcons will require many sorties.

    Taliban, gather round, have your tea, enjoy the thuds.

    • LOL: InnerCynic, HVM
    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  16. Anon[159] • Disclaimer says:

    (((Lawrence Korb))).

    All you need to know.

  17. @AnonStarter

    The only people who want to live in ‘bedrock America’ are the disgusting whites sans diploma. They really need to fed into the wood chipper ASAP, preferably by a draft system that only selects them and uses them in the way the Soviets handled penal units.

  18. @Rich

    With “victories” like those, I’m surprised the US still exists. Thank heavens for two oceans buying the USA time, but the barbarians are at the gate, and they are being welcomed by America’s plutocrats and oligarchs.

    • Replies: @Alfred Muscaria
  19. What is particularly regrettable is the fact that the United States has no compelling national interest in encouraging open warfare between Moscow and Kiev….

    It depends how you define national interest.

  20. @anon

    Before Amurderka leaves Afganistan, one last B-52 sortie dropping neocons wearing thick, policy-paper boots. No chutes.

    I’d go for a LAPE to give them a running chance and leave enough alive for the Taliban to torture.

  21. For the warmongering “defense” companies and congressional d-heads, The Shitghanistan Forever War was a roaring success.

    • Thanks: Orville H. Larson
  22. RVBlake says:

    “Sure, American soldiers can still win wars, but it has to be a real war where there is something genuine at stake, like protecting one’s home and family.” The evidence for that assertion is lacking.

    • Replies: @Harry Huntington
  23. Towards the end of the Vietnam war, the story goes, the soldiers would pretend to go out on patrol.

    They’d leave base camp, march until they were out of site, and then sit down and send fake radio messages about their patrolling efforts. At a pre-determined time, they’d return to base.

    Men didn’t want to die for stupid reasons.

    Is the illegal occupation of Syria worth an American life? Is a foreign war worth death or crippling injury, when the Great Replacement is happening back home?

    • Replies: @teo toon
  24. @RVBlake

    Recall, it is fair to argue that America did not win WWII. The Russians beat the Germans and the Americans piled on by attacking France when all of the best of the German Army was on the Eastern Front. In the case of Japan, it is fair to say not that America “won” but that Japan “lost.” On December 7, Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, but Japan did not run additional air strikes to take out the fuel tank farm at Pearl Harbor, the dry docks, or the machine shops. Thus, Japan actually left much of the US war fighting ability untouched. Further, Japan made no effort to target and sink the fuel tankers that provided underway replenishment to the US Navy. If Japan had done just a bit more at the start of the war, the early years of the war could have turned out quite differently.

    • Agree: GomezAdddams
    • Replies: @showmethereal
  25. dearieme says:

    American soldiers can still win wars

    Have you got any evidence for this proposition? Or do you mean that they might well win a skirmish somewhere in Latin America or the Caribbean?

  26. I can’t believe Ron Unz is publishing Giraldi’s erroneous diatribes. Hell must have broken loose.

    • Replies: @Onebelowall
    , @RestiveUs
  27. anonymous[139] • Disclaimer says:

    Every American war since 1898 has been an expeditionary one of choice. None have been to defend the US. Conservative patriotic feelings have been exploited to get people to go along with the supposed cause, spreading freedom, democracy, fighting them there so we don’t have to fight them here, etc. The public has been coerced through the draft, having native patriots vent their anger on slackers, and bamboozled through full-spectrum propaganda 24/7. Koreans are invading Korea or Vietnamese are invading Vietnam so Americans have to go in and prevent that. Yeah, right, never mind the countries were partitioned by outsiders. But tell that to your average American and they act like they were totally separate countries, one invading another. Nowadays they use people who need jobs to mostly staff the military with a small number of adventure seekers going into things like special forces. Smedley Butler had it right years ago, they’re fighting on behalf of Wall Street and other interests. Most American soldiers probably sense this so they’ll likely not stick their necks out too far should things get serious.

  28. KenH says:

    Sure, American soldiers can still win wars, but it has to be a real war where there is something genuine at stake, like protecting one’s home and family.

    Except the U.S. military under head negro in charge Lloyd Austin is becoming a threat to all most white American soldiers hold dear. The enemy isn’t China or the Taliban it’s our “fellow Americans” in charge of major institutions who hate our guts.

    America cannot win wars anymore because it’s running out of white males and doing their utmost to insult and alienate them characterizing all non-leftist white males as “white supremacist domestic extremists”.

    A military comprised of leftist white soy boys, blacks, latinos, homosexuals and transsexuals will get annihilated on the battlefield.

    • Thanks: FLgeezer
  29. @The Alarmist

    With “victories” like those, I’m surprised the US still exists. Thank heavens for two oceans buying the USA time, but the barbarians are at the gate, and they are being welcomed by America’s plutocrats and oligarchs.

    The Klan’s march on Washington to stop Jewish immigration was probably too late but the last gasp of “real America”. Some of them knew what was up they just didn’t have any power to stop it. The 1913 (((Federal Reserve Act))) and establishment of the IRS to keep commoners in check was the death blow.

    • Replies: @anon
  30. roonaldo says:

    No, the U.S. isn’t going to leave Afghanistan anytime soon, but will simply say the Taliban haven’t held up their end of the bargain, or that circumstances have changed, or that Afghan women would suffer persecution, etc., etc., blah blah blah.

    The U.S. will support a puppet regime with enough territory to provide opium profits to the CIA, an airbase or two, and fat contracts to U.S. companies providing mercenaries and trainers.

    The “Biden-Harris” administration won’t tolerate being stuck with the label as those who “lost Afghanistan.” Eventually, when the Kissingers and Cheneys and neolibcons are all finally dead and buried and the U.S. economy is in tatters, Afghanis will overrun the desperate defenders of the rotted empire’s last garrison. I just hope the hegemon will allow it to end with a whimper, rather than a thermonuclear bang.

    • Agree: GMC
    • Replies: @Majority of One
  31. PCChaos says:
    @anon

    A Rumor of War – should be required reading for all politicians. So should, On Killing, by LtCol Grossman. Folks getting us into messes like this…Take a look at the major mil/industry company’s stocks 1980-current. The upward trajectory of most of those stocks explains how war is good for shareholders and recently retired flag officers.

  32. Anonymous[182] • Disclaimer says:
    @Supply and Demand

    We’re going to kill your family, S&D.

    • Replies: @Supply and Demand
  33. @Anonymous

    good luck getting to China, fren.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  34. We want to stop fighting the Taliban and vector them against China and Iran and in support of Uyghur insurgents, perhaps driving a wedge between China and Pakistan in the process.

    But we can’t just drop the “democracy” we implanted in Afghanistan over the side, because that wouldn’t look good.

    So what is needed is “a decent interval” to use the old Vietnam-era phrase–a “transition” that looks like something other than what it really is.

    But unsurprisingly, Ghani and company don’t want to be left to fend for themselves like our hapless stooges in the South Vietnamese government.

    So Biden–or his handlers–hope that a few additional months of US force presence can somehow be used to square the circle such that Ghani accepts a transitional phase in which the Taliban and other jihadi “join” the government in route to their total domination of it.

    I’m sure there’ll be lots of bribes for the top leadership to play ball, and as for the rest…oh, well.

    • Thanks: Iris
    • Replies: @meena
  35. Anonymous[182] • Disclaimer says:
    @Supply and Demand

    We’ll get whoever you left over here.

    • Replies: @Supply and Demand
  36. US is run by tribal, not national, interests.

    The Tribe ain’t Eskimos.

    • Agree: lavoisier
  37. meena says:
    @Oscar Peterson

    “there’ll be lots of bribes for” Otherwise these guys name Ghani and Abdullah will spill the beans, divulge the secrets and expose the unsettling reality .
    Did they learn from the jihadist who change monikers, change sides and kill previous mentors or partners for money and girls? Did they learn from the White Helmet founder ? In this racket, everyone is for last nickel and dime .Ghani seems to be just below the American partners . Lot of money -American tax dollars . Bush demand :”You are with us or against us “ has found its most successful expression and fruition here in the palaces just outside those caves now run ISIS ferried by US helicopters

    “Rescue workers from the White Helmets in Syria risk their lives for a small fee. The directors of the Dutch organisation receiving the grants pay themselves bonuses in cash and borrow money from the safe for their wedding. $ 50.000 goes missing. Founder James le Mesurier admits fraud three days before he died last year. “Read the full report in English here.–https://www.volkskrant.nl/nieuws-achtergrond/founder-of-foundation-behind-white-helmets-admits-fraud~b5dacd0c/?referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fthegrayzone.com%2F2021%2F04%2F07%2Fbbc-white-helmets-mayday-uk-intelligence%2F

  38. The US will not get invovled in a war between Ukraine and Russia; everyone even senile old Joe knows such a war will end in humiliation for the US; every NATO war game shows the Ruskies decisively defeating NATO/US forces; Russia has the S-500 and S-400 air defense system the best anti-aircraft system in the world could even take out Stealth aircraft our troops would be without air cover for the 1st time in a very long time; a US intervention in Ukraine would end in humiliating defeat for the US and spur calls for senile old Joe’s resignation.

  39. anon[164] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alfred Muscaria

    The Klan’s march on Washington to stop Jewish immigration….

    this “Klan” sounds better and better all the time

    • Agree: Katrinka
    • Replies: @Johnny Smoggins
  40. @Ann Nonny Mouse

    In reality the South invaded the North and then the North responded. USA however had their first biological weapons put into use—using pests- grain and rodents carrying disease to poison the North –couple pilots shot down. One on record states “What the hell am I going to tell my son when I return to America- that your father is a monster?” and Ridway states ” I am the first to walk away from conflict without victory!!” ( but not the last—as there later would be Vietnam- Iraq- Libya and regime changes in Chile and throughout Central America –to keep USA demcracy safe and furthermore the dollar reads “In God we Trust!” –yes satan has many guises—lies posing as truth —murder posing as liberation – thug rule posing as democracy. The good American people are under the thumb of pyschopaths in DC –when is the public going to wake up and take back what is Rightfully theirs from that clique in DC –making billions for themselves??

  41. Trinity says:

    Off topic slightly but did anyone see Tucker’s show from Thursday night? Good lawd, did you see Hunter Biden’s meth mouth and those pictures with the prostitutes? Meanwhile (((CNN))) is covering 2 stories 24/7, Matt Gaetz and St. Floyd are the only game in town for (((CNN.)))

    I mean Hunter even had a dog on the bed with the two prostitutes. What the hell has happened to this country? The POTUS son caught in bed with a couple of hos and it is no biggie?

  42. @Daniel H

    That was a powerful statement. Well said.

    One of the propaganda methods used by the US against its own people is to retrospectively define the ‘win’ condition. For instance, the space race is popularly seen as a win for the US because the US retrospectively decided that landing on the moon would be the win condition. Apparently, being first to orbit a satellite wasn’t a win condition, being the first to orbit a person wasn’t a win condition; being the first to spacewalk wasn’t a win condition, being the first to land on another planet wasn’t a win condition, but being first to land a person on the moon somehow did constitute a win condition, victory is declared and the game suddenly ends.

    The west sucks up propaganda like mothers’ milk – all the time assuming that only the ‘baddies’ use propaganda.

    • Replies: @Robertus
  43. @Rich

    The US won every major battle

    This myth has been debunked.

    • Agree: Not Raul
    • Disagree: Rich
    • Thanks: Biff
    • Replies: @gotmituns
  44. Get ready for the pro-US sellouts to move into your neighborhood. They know they will get the Najibullah treatment if they stay. And if you have a minor son, tell him to keep away because Afghans love boy ass.

  45. anonymous[335] • Disclaimer says:

    Afghans love boy ass

    Ah, so those Afghans are just the same as your mofing clergy?!

  46. @roonaldo

    Two factors have motivated the continuation of America’s longest war of aggression abroad. Primary foundation of those boots remaining on the ground is the same one which was the driving element of the war on Vietnam: Profits for the ruling Bank$ters whose biggest money-maker is the WarDefense industry. Arms makers, with the largest one being Lockheed-Martin, with its Skunk-Works and deep entanglements with District of Corruption “lawmakers”, are directed by their primary investors. It strikes me as curiously fascinating that the #1 investors in that money-machine are London Bankers. Informed students of geopolitical reality all know the identity of the Crime Clan which heads up that lot.

    Conjunctive in the greed and profits game is continued control over the opium-based heroin industry. Arguably, the straw which broke the camel’s back, instigating the assault on Afghanistan was the fact that the Taliban had shut down opium production. Period. No more product. A certain most powerful Agency, the one which has power over all other administrative Departments and Bureaus derives the bulk of their “black”, off the books funding, by controlling the international heroin industry, a market-share they have dominated since their replacement of the OSS, which had begun that game in the Golden Triangle almost immediately after the termination of WWII.

    How would the law n order racket and the prison-industrial complex be able to keep those Shekels rolling in without the existence of the “War on Drugs”? Criminalization equals bureaucratic advancement and nice perks and pensions for the “feds”. Corruption in state and federal prison complexes are only outclassed in parasitical depravity by the privately owned lockups. Without heroin and crack-c0caine, tens of thousands of administrative bureaucrats and “corrections officers” would be pounding the pavements looking for legitimate, productive employment.

    Second to all the greed and profits motivations is imperial hubris. In order to maintain its status as the world’s primary hegemon, the Evil Empire, owned lock, stock and poppycock by those same Bank$ter Crime Clans, feels a need to maintain literally hundreds of bases in more than 80 separate countries right across the planet. Purposes of the basis are twofold: One, they are “needed” to encircle potential adversaries or even economic competitors. Two, those bases are handy launching-pads for destruction/submission of independent states which do not allow themselves to be swallowed live by the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank, both of which closely work with imperial corporate interests to suck the economies of those targeted nations and to keep them indebted to those financial and corporate interests (read “Confessions of an Economic Hitman”) and unable to escape from the sticky webs of economic and political control by the .000001%.

  47. Anonymous[559] • Disclaimer says:

    I would hardly call Grenada and Panama “wars”. “Crimes” would be a better characterization. We have similar crimes stateside. They are called “home invasions”.

    Grenada is the only SEAL op where 4 SEALs drowned. Not a good look. “You had ONE job! Not drowning!”

    The U.S. needs to stop going abroad in search of monsters to destroy.

    • Agree: InnerCynic
    • Replies: @anon
  48. America can still dominate the world if the military would use the fabulous advantages of diversity offered by the new US population. Why would we overlook the battle potential of women? Give me a platoon of women like Genieveve Hansen (the scrappy firewoman from the Chauvin trial) and we could conquer North Korea in a weeks time.

    Also, gay soldiers have incredible advantages. They could be used to infiltrate gay discos in Iran, China or even Russia. Once our gay soldiers were in place, attacks could be staged.

    The same advantage is possible with our burgeoning illegal alien population from Mexico and Central America. These individuals are small and would make a very challenging target on the battlefield.

    Finally, our Black population are perfectly suited for night raids, where their natural dark skin color would make them virtually invisible to the enemy.

    Clearly, the world is changing and we as Americans need to adapt and employ our new strengths.

  49. @Supply and Demand

    ‘The only people who want to live in ‘bedrock America’ are the disgusting whites sans diploma. They really need to fed into the wood chipper ASAP, preferably by a draft system that only selects them and uses them in the way the Soviets handled penal units.’

    You sound pretty disgusting yourself. I think I’ll set you to ‘ignore.’

    • Replies: @Marckus
  50. @Rich

    This is one of the most idiotic jingoistic pieces of trash I have read in my life. The U.S *lost* the Vietnam War. It doesn’t matter how many battles the U.S won in Vietnam. Battles are tools to winning wars. The strategic objective was to hold Saigon, and Saigon fell. “Negotiated” a peace treaty? More like the U.S postured to save face. The terms were pretty much all dictated by the Vietcongs. Your post is 100% idiocy. Here is Saigon falling, as reported by the BBC: https://youtu.be/mknTDi70KFE

    • Replies: @Rich
  51. Pure delusion. The U.S was there for 11 years, and accomplished nothing. The ^leftists^didn’t want America to win? It was a leftist President that decided to go to war in the firstm place, numb nuts. All you are doing is excuses for why the U.S lost. Hurt patriotic pride

  52. @anonymous

    Antisemitic! Are you suggesting that “israel” invaded Palestine?!?

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  53. Ross23 says:

    The Chinese will conquer Afghanistan without a shot being fired.

    They’ll simply open their wallet and won’t give a shit about how the Taliban go about their business.

    • Agree: Daniel H
    • Replies: @Old Brown Fool
  54. @Trinity

    Nobody really gives a shit because deep down they know Muttmerica deserves only God’s wrath.

  55. anon[833] • Disclaimer says:

    Somebody ought to frag Biden in good military tradition if that sob starts a war with Russia, China or Iran which will be the end of us all. The MFer runs his mouth and makes threats like it’s his call, which it is not.

    • Agree: Leander Starr
  56. anon[833] • Disclaimer says:
    @Daniel H

    F ckin’ A

  57. Druid says:
    @KenH

    That military in your last sentence getting annihilated is not necessarily a bad thing

  58. “The Yankees Are Coming Home: the Taliban Won. Get Over It”

    Well, maybe they’ll do better at home against the Red Sox.

    • Thanks: RadicalCenter
  59. mcohen says:

    Just last week in the May so be it the 25-27.hard rain gonna fall.said bob

  60. “the Taliban Won. Get Over It”

    Get over what? What was to ‘win’? There were no ‘goals’ set, no ‘objective’. Under the new paradigm of ‘war’ conflict, ‘winning’ implies that the situation had concluded, it’s over. We know that the munitions and defense industries will have none of that. The new ‘model’ of ‘war’ created from the nonsense of Viet Nam is summed up in the Pentagon motto…Win?…LOL…Winning is for losers!

  61. TKK says:

    My brother has worked in Iraq since 2006-7.

    Was in Afghanistan for a while.

    His job, KBR, just sent him yesterday to Dubai for a week long training.

    If American military were leaving Iraq, I don’t think they would spring for the training, flights, per diems for about 30 employees.

    Those bases in Iraq are permanent. They have runways, Pizza Huts, gas stations, firefighters, solar panels, medics, labs.

    The Iraqis play ball. The Afghanis do not.

    If they did not treat little girls with less respect than you would give a rat in a dumpster, I would admire them. But men who burn little girls alive in a school because they don’t have their burkas on should be fed to the bonfire of civilization themselves.

    Their rampant buggery of prepubescent boys is also repellent. When my brother was there, he would tease the locals who worked with them (they all smelled like goats) and say:

    Is it boy love Thursdays?

    None denied it. Many would laugh and give a lecherous smile.

    Repellent deviants.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  62. Their rampant buggery of prepubescent boys is also repellent.

    And just what is your plan to call the Podesta’s to account?

  63. onebornfree says: • Website

    War is the “business” of all governments, worldwide. The US is no exception. The government always makes war on its own population on a daily basis [laws, taxes].

    When the slaves oppression becomes a little too obvious to those very same slaves, and they then start to get a little “antsy” , a war on another country is required to distract the slaves from their own situation and to “unite” everyone to fight the newly declared, foreign “evil” enemy.

    As historian Randolph Bourne said : “War is the health of the state”.

    Regardless of whether or not a state appears to win an external war,[or claims to], or not, the state nearly_always_ still wins via external war- that is, the war enables it to increase and further consolidate its power and control over its own slaves, who willingly [or are forced to] go off to fight the newly declared “foreign evil”,and perhaps even willingly die for their wonderful masters who can do no wrong.

    Just as the criminal state and criminal sycophants [eg “defense” contractors ], always prosper and expand via these domestic and foreign wars, everyone else loses more of their individual freedom to live their own lives quietly, as they see fit, away from government interference.

    “Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience. Our problem is that people all over the world have obeyed the dictates of leaders…and millions have been killed because of this obedience…Our problem is that people are obedient all over the world in the face of poverty and starvation and stupidity, and war, and cruelty. Our problem is that people are obedient while the jails are full of petty thieves… (and) the grand thieves are running the country. That’s our problem.”
    ~ Howard Zinn

    “The state is the most destructive institution human beings have ever devised – a fire that, at best, can be controlled for only a short time before it o’erleaps it’s improvised confinements and spreads its flames far and wide.” Robert Higgs

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Replies: @InnerCynic
  64. a.z says:

    why do u guys keep saying 58k dead in Vietnam when the body count is 78k , i mean the 2ok mia r not in some Vietnam village singing folk songs with their Vietnamese kids while smoking pot.

  65. Marckus says:
    @Trinity

    I understand the UK Daily Mail has thousands of juicy emails and photos of the Hunter. Some, would make Ron Jeremy blush !

    We better be respectful. He may be the next President of the US. Remember, his Dad said Hunter was the smartest person he knows.

    Watch out, this fellow has a promising political career ahead of him.

  66. @Ross23

    Conquer? Heck, no. Afghans would tag along the Pakistanis to the court of Xi, begging for admission. Who do you conquer when nobody opposes your entry?

  67. Mike Tre says:

    “Victory” is the last objective in mind when the US government sends its troops to a foreign land to die. It has been this way for over one hundred years.

    Millions of young white male US patriots have been killed or maimed fighting in wars that were never any military threat to the US. That’s a feature of this century long globalist campaign, not a bug.

    White men must stop volunteering to enlist in the US Armed Forces. Leave the future warfare to be fought by the US “citizens” who hate it: homosexuals, trannies, lesbians, welfare seeking negroes, and the rest of the POC mongrels.

    • Agree: Kolya Krassotkin
    • Replies: @Hans Vogel
  68. anonymous[335] • Disclaimer says:

    The problem is that even if there are many degenerates amongst the “mongrels” you mention, there aren’t enough mass-murdering psychopaths. Not even close.

    That is where your kind of whitevil mofers provide an unparalleled service to the most evil army on earth.

  69. a.z says:
    @Anon

    i knew when i saw the three finger salute thailand protesters will lose.

  70. Rich says:
    @Rockford Tyson

    The leftist government that controlled both Houses of Congress in 1975 supported the communist cause in Vietnam. Please explain how if the government removes all its troops, walks away from its treaty obligations and favors the communists, it lost? You guys won in the US, you removed the president, took over the government and switched sides in the war. Pat yourself on the back for that, just stop with the nonsense.

  71. gotmituns says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    Nothing will ever come close to the ass wiping our guys took in the Hurtgen Forest in the Autumn of 1944 – a total clusterfu*k from the word go.

  72. Katrinka says:
    @KenH

    “A military comprised of leftist white soy boys, blacks, latinos, homosexuals and transsexuals will get annihilated on the battlefield”.

    Best thing that could happen really.

    No self respecting White man should join up with the military.

  73. gotmituns says:

    The only reason we’re involved in these dumb “wars” is for our arms manufacturers to test all their shiny new gear. The real “enemy” of course will be here at home against our own people.

    • Replies: @InnerCynic
  74. Rich says:
    @Daniel H

    You have no clue what you’re writing about. A modern day Howard Zinn, you are.

  75. Mr. Anon says:

    You have no clue what you’re writing about. A modern day Howard Zinn, you are.

    What did he say that was wrong?

  76. Marckus says:
    @Colin Wright

    One can feel nothing but derision for people like Supply and Demand and his husband Truth. Both of them live in Harlem.

    They yelp about the US being a disgusting place to live but:
    – they live here.
    -they live in areas that they themselves have made disgusting
    -Supply and Demand as a black man should return to Africa but WON’T

    They scorn the hand that gives them free housing, and puts welfare and food stamps in their baggy jeans. These people have a mentality hard to understand. One day, and that day may be far distant, shrinks may be able to explain their pathology. They are sick and twisted.

    In the meantime, the unconvinced get to read their comments here on UR, every single one of which is sheer nonsense. Supply and Demand is a product of the public school system in Harlem, at best a complete twit, at worse a stunning example of the fact that humans can survive without a functioning brain.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Supply and Demand
  77. “There was almost no discussion of America’s wars during the recent election.”

    By the 100% zionist-controlled MSM of America? And your surprised?

    Why would they want ANY public discussion of America’s ME foreign policy when everything is going exactly according to plan?

    (The “Oded Yinon Plan”, that is……….. )

    • Replies: @Arthur MacBride
  78. Anon[879] • Disclaimer says:
    @Marckus

    US UK France have become shit hole places .Honest public officials can see why.

    “ A former UK foreign office minister has accused pro-Israel lobbyists of “the most disgusting interference” in British public life, and of negatively influencing the country’s foreign policy in the Middle East.

    Alan Duncan, a former Conservative MP and government minister until 2019, wrote in his newly published memoir that the Conservative Friends of Israel (CFI) had been responsible for pushing the country to adopt disproportionately anti-Palestinian and pro-Israel policies.

    https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/uk-israel-lobbyists-alan-duncan-interference

  79. @anon

    The purpose of the KKK was to protect White families in the chaos of the post war era from roving gangs of blacks and union soldiers who were raping and pillaging their way through the south.

    They’ve been lied about and demonized almost as much as Hitler and the national socialists.

  80. @Daniel H

    ll the hippies, long hairs, peaceniks, flower children, dissenters, Quakers, et. al. were right about Vietnam and the war-boys were wrong.

    And then all the hippies grew up to become neo cons and Zionists who had no problem with the killing of a half million Iraqi children.

    • Thanks: Trinity
  81. HEY! I take that Hippie rag you did personally. Still have the hair and beard and not having undergone the Unkindest Cut at the ripe old age of 23 hours outta the oven; I sure the hell would not qualify to be a Neocon. There are tens if not scores of old hippies, including bikers, who would be outraged by your inane slam.

  82. anon[389] • Disclaimer says:

    Expect Antifa to be used against antiwar protesters if we get into the Ukraine-Russia stuff. Thats probably why the Afghan/Iraq drawdown might happen. Two U.S. destroyers have entered the Black Sea.

    Antifa was probably refounded and supported to beat up anti-war protesters if we got a Russian War. Now I know why Hillary called Putin the new Hitler. They got leftist cred by supporting BLM, and probably have a few feds embedded. We can only take Russia or China, but not both at once. This is college football to the neocons. Dominance and plans are all they think about.

  83. @Anon

    In a conversation with my Thai wife I said that it’s absurd for any “protestor” to argue about the coup and their purported claims about “rooting out corruption”, when Thai society, especially in dealing with any governmental agency, is systemically corrupt to the core. One example being that during election cycles the political parties openly pay out money to buy votes… So I said to the missus… “If Thais want to understand corruption, and why the country is as messed up as it is, they need only look in the mirror”. A society composed of narcissistic Facebook binging fools does not a civilization make.

  84. Are we really coming home? Don’t care that the Taliban won. They didn’t do 9/11. If Al Qaeda did and since they work for the deep state, the(a) deep state did it. Hence this country is not worth fighting for, and I hope all military personnel come to realize it. Time to decommission the nukes, AI, and biological weapons. Instead we will likely be in Ukraine and Syria by the end of summer.

  85. @gotmituns

    Interesting that you say exactly as I’ve thought for well over the last three decades. Indeed. They are testing out all the shiny toys to deploy upon their own. So, knowing that, wouldn’t it make sense to study them intensely in order to defeat them come that inevitable day?

  86. teo toon says:

    The real lesson learned from Vietnam was that fighting on someone else’s turf where you have no real interests or stake in the outcome is a fool’s game…

    Writing such shiite as that ruins the rest of the article. The US did not lose the Vietnam war militarily: our traitorous Democratic controlled Congress refused to resupply the South Vietnamese after the North broke the peace treaty and invaded the South. This was one of the desired benefits of the coup d’etat against Nixon.

    • Agree: Rich
    • Replies: @KA
    , @Biff
    , @Bill
  87. ‘…Writing such shiite as that ruins the rest of the article. The US did not lose the Vietnam war militarily: our traitorous Democratic controlled Congress refused to resupply the South Vietnamese…’

    Which would go to show that…

    ‘The real lesson learned from Vietnam was that fighting on someone else’s turf where you have no real interests or stake in the outcome is a fool’s game…’

    Wouldn’t it?

    Really, it all goes to show that effective war making capacity is not simply a function of physical firepower, but among other things, how important victory is to the belligerent. As it turned out, we just didn’t want to win badly enough in Viet Nam to make the commitment that would have been necessary to win.

    Without suggesting we should do nothing, we really should consider this before deciding on our moves vis-a-vis rivals such as China and Russia. Just how many millions of dead are we prepared to suffer to preserve an independent Ukraine?

    If it’s a small number, perhaps we should make it clear to the Ukraine that she’ll be on her own if she invades the Crimea or whatever.

    Such is the course of wisdom. One does not start fights one isn’t prepared to win.

    • Replies: @Majority of One
  88. BL says:

    What’s missing these days is the right starting point, the geopolitical overlay. Nothing more evidences how the American Project has lost its way post-1989 than skipping over it because it might constrain our worst impulses.

    Would that it were so that we had the luxury at the moment of teasing out lessons from Vietnam and North Korea. Or that if we were to acknowledge them its any kind of substitute for our going completely off the rails on the big stuff.

    Let me give it to you short and sweet. A mere quarter century as the “Unipolar” top of the heap is so pathetic, it could only have been exceeded as such by it being telegraphed in the beginning with “moment” being appended to the label.

    Now that’s national humiliation! Yet we persist in being unable to even think about it while those responsible are still alive and in a position to double-down, let alone distract.

    Accept the hardest of hard truths. Driving Russia into a strategic alliance with China was none too bright . . . in the 1990s. After that it moved into sheer geopolitical criminality, if such a thing existed.

    CCP China comprehensively won the post-Cold War period, hands down. A middle schooler would be forgiven for summing it all up as “The US won the Cold War and generously set about donating all the proceeds to China.”

    The continued studied refusal to distinguish Trump from his three post-Cold War predecessors is no help. Perhaps someone can explain why if he was same-old, same old the anti-Trump foreign and domestic alignment unrelenting pursued destroying his presidency and denying him a second term?

  89. @Rich

    1) And then came the 2nd half of the game. Where the Chinese forced the US-Americans to retreat hastily. Result: Status Quo Ante. That’s not winning
    2) It’s of no importance how many battles you win when the target you waged the war for is not reached in the end. The target was to have a non-communist government maintained/installed in Vietnam. The result was communist governments in Vietnam, Laos, Cambodya and Burma. That’s not winning.
    3) The US-troops do not occupy Afghanistan. They sit in their bastions in Afghanistan plus some miles beyond that but rarely dare to leave that area. The countryside is under control of bribed warlords or talibanesque organisations. That’s not winning.
    You lose 0 : 3

    • Replies: @Rich
  90. @onebornfree

    That’s why I’m just counting the days for a fresh “devil du-jour” to appear so that Team Joe and Washington (or do I repeat myself?) can use it as cover for all of their misdeeds and criminality. It’s coming, the war that is, you can be sure of that. Once it begins you’ll be bludgeoned over the head repeatedly for ever questioning the reasoning and hounded with the “support the troops” mantra each and every day. You can almost see their advocates with their wide eyed gaze and fits of spittled invectives pouring out of their pie holes.

  91. anon[423] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s very interesting that a story about the US losing a war in Afghanistan gives so many old guys instant Vietnam flashbacks. GHW Bush said he fixed the Vietnam syndrome by blowing up Iraq but obviously all the institutionalized neuroses are still seething and crippling them more and more.

    The military is so fucked up in the head that they hid in forts for 20 years rather than admit they lost again. At least in Beirut and Somalia, when the troops got their ass kicked they would cut and run in time.

    These ASVAB waiver assholes are so delusional they thought Vietnamn was going to let them back in:

    https://thegrayzone.com/2021/04/08/pentagon-vietnam-military-china-us-war/

    The Pentagon is white man’s welfare. If you’re too stupid to get a real job you just get some government busywork. Tax parasites. I can’t wait till the SCO gets fed up and bounces their rubble.

    • Replies: @Alden
  92. @anon

    At this stage of the game, US troops on the ground are “needed” nor wanted anywhere outside US borders. Put them to work on restoring deteriorated internal infrastructure and such before they’re drafted by the new supranational “global peacekeeper” force dedicated to meddling in the internal affairs of nations acting as the gendarmes of the global oligarchy.

  93. teo toon says:
    @beavertales

    Is the illegal occupation of Syria worth an American life?

    Rothschild’s Israel thinks so as do the (((bankers))); China got the oil and Israel got some new territory.

  94. The British fought in Afghanistan from 1834 until 1919 and then were pushed back in in 2001 when Israel and the zionist traitors in the ZUS demolished the WTC and blamed it on the Arabs to have the excuse to go to war for Israel and their greater Israel agenda and so the ZUS and Britain have fought another 20 years and all for the CIA and Mossad and MI6 poppy fields and for the MIC and by the way they armed the Taliban as you need an enemy to have a good war, just the cost of doing business.

    Bin Laden had nothing to do with the WTC, he was on the CIA payroll and died of kidney failure on December 15, 2001 and is buried at Tora Bora and his death was reported on the Egyptian newspaper Al Wafd on December 26, 2001, but facts do not matter to the CIA and the MIC, there was a war to be fought and Afghanistan had poppy fields and the taliban had to be armed , so it was a win win, and the blood of the American soldiers and Afghan civilians were of now concern, there was a war, a sandbox for the deep state to play war in.

    Rudyard Kipling wrote a poem, The Young British Soldier, if interest can google it, it might as well have been titled, the universal soldier, and google and read The Report From Iron Mountain , this explains the whole deal about war, unending war, perpetual war, there it is, right there.

    • Replies: @Hans Vogel
  95. “What is particularly regrettable is the fact that the United States has no compelling national interest in encouraging open warfare between Moscow and Kiev, a conflict that it will be unable to avoid as its is supplying Ukraine with weaponry.”

    It’s also regrettable that you fail to recognize that some of the most important Jewish rabbis are buried in the Pale of Settlement, therefore, it must be had by the US. Trillions of dollars and countless lives aren’t spent not for nothing!

  96. Rich says:
    @Bill Miller

    0It grows tiresome dealing with anti-American propagandists.
    1 The goal of the communists was to capture the entire Korean peninsula, the goal of the Americans and their allies was to repel them. In the ebb and flow of the war the Americans made it pretty far north and taking it would have been a nice bonus, but that wasn’t the objective of the war. The objective was to drive the communists out of the South. That was accomplished.
    2 The original aim of the Vietnam War was to prevent the spread of Godless communism, but there was a coup that removed the lawfully elected president and a Congress sympathetic to the communist cause switched sides and provided no further help to the South. The US pulled out 2 years before the North’s victory. How can you lose a war when you’ve removed your troops and basically switched sides?
    3 The US and its allies in Afghanistan control all the population centers and the government. Your terrorist friends live in caves, control no population centers and crawl out of their holes only to murder innocents and occasionally commit terror attacks.

    Why is reality so difficult for so many?

  97. @Max Maxwell

    Have you seen senile Old Joe at all lately? He no longer even knows how to dress himself without a roomful of advisers. He’ll do whatever his handlers tell him to, including starting WW3.

    You’d be amazed at the things you can get a befuddled old man to do for a Jello pudding cup.

  98. KA says:
    @teo toon

    This is why Nixon like a traitor approached Vietnamese and told not to accept the deal at Paris conference because he would give a better deal to N Vietnamese if he were elected. (Reagan would do same to Carter )

    Only morons believe the shit that Afghan loves boy ass . As usual America dug out some anecdotes to punish recalcitrant Karzai and media followed suit at full throttle. ( Suddenly pornographies are always found: be it Saddam ,be it Noregia,be it Bin Laden on death bed or AIDS in worst case -that was Arafat.)
    It is like extrapolating the data from Abu Ghraib and Catholic church and say American and Europeans love white boy’s ass .

  99. @Anonymous

    You’re welcome to take my mother, aunt, and nephew — they’re the only ones currently left in the states. They’re Trump voters. Paternal side is in Hungary.

    You are gonna be working on a timer with my nephew, though. I’ve reported him as a domestic terror threat to the FBI twice in the past 6 months now. Hoping they’ll snatch him up soon!

  100. @Badger Down

    “Anti-Semitic” means reflexively hostile to or unfairly biased against Semites.

    Both Arabs and Sephardic Jews are Semites. So both Palestinians and a sizable minority of Israeli Jews are Semites.

    By far most Semites in the world are NOT Jews.

    What are you trying to say with”anti-Semitic”?

    • Replies: @anon
  101. @Mustapha Mond

    (The “Oded Yinon Plan”, that is……….. )

    Exactly right.

    And it seems that White Americans continue to give their blood in support of that Plan, even as they see their country being wrecked by the Pollards it has taken in as penniless ragarse refugees, on whose behalf said Plan operates.

    They might even describe themselves as Patriots for “serving”.

    While one might (perhaps) make a sort of halfway excuse for them (low IQ, family tradition), no such excuse can exist for American “journalists” or politicians.

  102. WLMM says:

    Let the troops come home and pursue the criminals in our own government and mosques.

  103. @Rich

    While this“in his newly published memoir” is interesting, it’s not effective. Or maybe not immediately effective but it’s something which is better than nothing.

    Duncan and others similar always wait until they are “former ministers” before they speak. But at least they do have some level of courage/patriotism which is more than can be said for the majority who are without any apparent redeeming qualities.

    It’s sure this is how their zionist overlords also view them.

  104. @Rich

    Why is reality so difficult for so many?

    Why is it America’s business ?

  105. WLMM says:
    @Rich

    Thank you for bucking the trend at the UNZ. It would be interesting to hear from the people of S Korea following that war, France and the UK following WWII, but, this is not a site for American citizens with a moderate view. This is a site populated by far leftists, Muslims, African War lords, and anarchists.

    • LOL: Biff
  106. @Rich

    Hmmm, let’s see which wars the US has actually won, that is, “won,” by itself and without any major assistance from others….

    And that does not include regime change interventions or colonial policing actions in the Caribbean, Central America, such as in Nicaragua, Haiti (1915-1934), the Dominican Republic, or Grenada (1989), or the killing spree in the Philippines (1899-1902).

    Nor would such a lis include the extermination campaigns against the Plains Indians.

    I can only think of two wars in the more than two hundred years that the US has been at war:

    1) the Mexican War of 1845-48
    2) the Spanish War of 1898

    • Replies: @Rich
  107. nsa says:
    @Rich

    “Why is reality so difficult for so many?”
    Because they aren’t hanging out in the VFW geezer lounge perched atop a forward lookout barstool knocking down two dollar doubles while refighting the big one in between complaining about their prostate problems.

    • Agree: Bill
  108. Biff says:
    @teo toon

    The US did not lose the Vietnam war militarily: our traitorous Democratic controlled Congress refused to resupply the South

    The democratic controlled congress is the U.S.! Pull your head out of your ass and take a look at who is currently/since/and always will be running the show.

  109. @Desert Fox

    Ah, Kipling again, the vile anti-German propagandist during the Great War, you know, the war started by Kipling’s buddies known as Milner’s Kindergarten.

  110. Phibbs says:

    At the bottom of most of America’s problems is a Jews staring back up. Bin Laden attacked the U.S. because of its support for Israel — a fact which was never discussed by the Jew-owned media. From Afghanistan grew the Second Gulf war, fought to get rid of Israel’s (then) number one enemy. And Jews are six times underrepresented in the U.S. military — so the Jews love to see gentiles fight their wars for them. Ask any Marine who served in Lebanon about that!

  111. @Mike Tre

    Millions of young white male US patriots have been killed or maimed fighting in wars that were never any military threat to the US.

    Are you sure?

    World War II: 400,000
    World War I: 120,000
    Vietnam. 60,000
    Korea: 40,000
    Afghanistan: 2,000 (but mind you: only one in every 20 soldiers does combat duty, the others are in logistics, support, admin, etc)

    (round figures). This does not add up to even one million. Moreover, those killed were not all white males. Considerable numbers of negroes were killed as well.

  112. Mike Tre says:

    You apparently missed the part where I said “maimed.”

    “but mind you: only one in every 20 soldiers does combat duty, the others are in logistics, support, admin, etc)”

    I know. Whites (and more recently hispanics) populate the infantry and combat support ranks while negroes (and broads) populate supply and logistics. Especially up through the 90’s.

    “Considerable numbers of negroes were killed as well. ”

    Considerable to what? 12% of the KIA were black. 85% were white. Seems fairly proportional to US population numbers of the time.

    Sign your children up to take orders from trannies and to die for no good reason if you like.

  113. anon[334] • Disclaimer says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Sephardic Jew are Berber or whatever. Not Semite.
    If in Palestine, just squats.

    Semite Jew would be old line Jew from Iraq, Persia, Greater Syria.
    If in Palestine, Jew becomes a squat.

    Then there are the Yid – Khazar/Ashkenazi squat.

  114. Mefobills says:

    https://onlinegreatbooks.com/71-citizenship-in-heinleins-starship-troopers/

    Korb notes that “…the four most recent presidents who could have served in Vietnam avoided that war and the draft by dubious means. Bill Clinton pretended to join the Army ROTC; George W. Bush used political connections to get into the Air National Guard, when President Johnson made it clear that the reserve component would not be activated to fight the war; Donald Trump, of course, had his family physician claim he had bone spurs, (Trump himself cannot remember which foot); and Joe Biden claimed that the asthma he had in high school prevented him from serving even though he brags about his athletic exploits while in high school.”

    Universal suffrage democracy + finance capitalism = a steaming pile, where citizenship is not earned, and is given away.

    Heinlein had the right idea. To have merit, you have to earn it.

  115. I’m a firm believer, having served, that unless someone freely volunteers and can freely unvolunteer that there is nothing worth “defending”. If you can’t say “no” without threat of retaliation or punishment then you are nothing less than a slave otherwise. The absurdity of having been cajoled and threatened into signing up to “volunteer” never escaped me.

  116. anon[334] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    I would hardly call Grenada and Panama “wars”. “Crimes” would be a better characterization.

    Harsh and unfair.

    Op Just Cause was one of HW Bush’s finest hours.

    To match his take down of JFK (a possible participant), Nixon (along with Dean),
    HW got rid of his brother thug-in-crimes/drugs, Noriega.

    Of course Just Cause was slightly tarnished by the murders of several
    Panamanian citizens going about their daily lives of eating ice cream and bullets
    and a few bombs.

    Sorta makes me wonder how much of his and his group’s dissent from the Iraq War 2
    with murder of Saddam was heartfelt. Could have been an act.

  117. Russia left too, big deal. With all the synthetic drugs in the world today, the country that controls the Heroin no longer controls the world.

  118. ‘American soldiers can still win wars, but it has to be a real war where there is something genuine at stake, like protecting one’s home and family.’

    One wonders. Among other things, military effectiveness is a function of social cohesion.

    So how’s our new diverse military going to perform? Does the child of Oregon lumberjacks really bond with the hoodrat from the Bronx? Does either care for their flamboyantly lesbian platoon commander?

    Come a serious war, we may find ourselves hoisted on the petard of all our own bullshit.

    • LOL: InnerCynic
    • Replies: @RestiveUs
    , @Wielgus
  119. Derer says:

    US military junta in their “wisdom” created and armed Taliban against Soviets. Now they are fighting their creation and losing, despite Russia stay neutral unlike backstabbing Americans. Nobody in Pentagon was fired for the death of young Americans in useless war of Afghanistan. Families should sue the warmongers.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  120. I was an instructor for Command and General Staff College (CGSC) in the mid-90’s. We got a laugh out of the Soviet’s mistake in Afghanistan. Their neighbor on the continent. Who would make THAT error again. Oops!

  121. @Colin Wright

    From the get-go the intent in the U$ invasion of Vietnam was not at all about “winning”. After the Agency and their accomplices got JFK out of the way and LBJ (who had blackmailed Kennedy into becoming his running-mate) was firmly in the saddle and less than 3 months before the 1964 election, the gang pulled off the false-flag Tonkin Gulf incident and the game was on.

    Rather than get involved with the internal politics of South Vietnam by such tactics as the assassination of Ngo Dinh Diem and his entourage, all that the U$ needed to do was to continue to retrain the S.V. army and to help weed out incompetents (step one). As a university undergrad in 1965, I outlined a simple plan which could have enabled the SVs to maintain their somewhat independent status. The call was for a “death zone to be deforested, bulldozed, mined and laced with razor wire all along the 17th Parallel from the South China Sea, into Laos and onward to the Mekong River. With perhaps 3 divisions dug in behind that no-go zone, as I envisioned it at that time, the Ho Chi Minh trail never could have existed and the Viet Cong, lacking re-supply might have died on the vine…all this without American troops necessarily to have been involved in major combat. (That was step two)

    But again, the plan was not military victory, rather it was a scheme to build up the WarDefense Industry, the major oil companies and other money-machines for the ruling Bank$ters (with JFK and his $2 United States Notes gradually replacing the Federal Reserve private money monopoly conveniently out of their way) who were thusly enabled to massively increase America’s national debt (to them) and to gorge on huge profits as they lolled around, drinking champagne and eating caviar in their counting-houses.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  122. Aardvark says:
    @Rich

    My ROTC instructor claimed that the reason we went to Vietnam was because of SEATO and the desire to stop the spread of communism. If this were true then we lost the war for sure as not only did all of Vietnam become communist, and still remains that way to this very day, but it spread in to Laos and Cambodia.

    I think that these “wars” are never meant to be won. They are meant to be dragged out as long as they can so that career military personnel can get and claim combat experience for promotions to upper ranks and the defense industry has a cash cow for the duration. We have been in or terrorizing Iraq for going on 31 years and Afghanistan for 20 years.

    I hope that Xiden and handlers don’t think we can start the next long term war with China or Russia because something tells me it doesn’t end well.

  123. @KenH

    And alot of us will laugh when it happens

  124. Agent76 says:

    Apr 10, 2021 American Greed Helps China’s Military Rise | China Uncensored

    China has a secret weapon. One so devastating, it could even make an invasion of Taiwan possible. What is this secret weapon?

  125. Agree with the general sentiment of your article, but it isn’t morale or unwilling soldiers that have lost the war in Afghanistan, but the complete absence of aims. Why on earth were we there beyond dislocating Al Qaeda? Nobody knows. It is bureaucratic mission creep/empire building pushed to absurdity.

    Surely as an ex CIA officer you must have met some servicemen and therefore noticed that the vast majority, although they often saw the war as pointless, were nonetheless very happy to deploy and do the job they trained for?

    But the Bush White House, far from showing gratitude, soon thereafter added Iran to its “axis of evil” list. A golden opportunity was wasted to repair a relationship which has poisoned America’s presence in the Middle East ever since.

    Maybe, maybe not. It seems to me that with Iran as the “big bad” of the Middle East, the US has more hegemony there than ever.

  126. Alden says:
    @Supply and Demand

    Another jumped up prole first generation college grad who thinks a diploma is a sure ticket to fame and fortune. It’s 2021, not 1921, or even 1961. And what good has your college diploma done you? You’re a late middle aged man who can’t get a job in America despite your college diploma. An ESL teacher at your age and only because your father in law got you the job.

    My city’s bus drivers make about 120K a year without a college diploma, more than you’ll ever make. County Water and Power guys make even more. You probably sneer at them as ditch diggers. LOL

    • LOL: GeneralRipper
    • Replies: @Supply and Demand
  127. Wars fought against Communism after WW2 weren’t too popular. Of course once those dirty Commie Jews who protested the Vietnam War became politicians, war regained it’s former lustre.

    You all remember in 1992, the week prior to the inauguration of Slick Willie, Clinton scheduled all kinds of events on the Washington Mall — parties and events. One of the things that Clinton scheduled was a flyover of military jets, and there was an actor by the name of Ron Silver. Ron Silver got mad as hell. He said, “What the hell is that? We don’t do that! We’re flying jets over Washington? What the hell?”

    Somebody had to calm him down and say, “Ron, those are our jets now.” “Oh, yeah!” So when the Democrats are in, “Those are our jets. They used to be Reagan’s jets and they were Bush’s jets. They weren’t ours. But now they’re our jets!”

    Ron Silver, hopefully another Jew rotting in Hell.

    🙂

  128. Alden says:
    @anon

    “ White man’s welfare”???? When was the last time you were on a military base or around the Pentagon at closing time?

    One sight I enjoyed on 9/11 was the sight of fat black women in military uniform stumbling out of the Pentagon.

    I live near a VA hospital. Drive through it all the time. Huge, 495 acres and not a White employee or patient in sight. Ever.

    It is welfare, but not for Whites.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Bill Jones
  129. roberto1 says:
    @Max Maxwell

    I doubt that even the US warmongers would actually send US troops to ukraine to fight Russia. Hasn’t Putin promised to attack the US if the US attacks Russia ?

  130. jsinton says:

    God deliver us from these evil Satan worshipers who use us like cattle. Just get out.

  131. The Taliban won because they have nowhere to go. It is their country after all. Mind you, Yankee Exceptional psychopathy sees the whole world as American by right of aggression and genocide. The Merkans win if they kill, destroy and make money, so Afghanistan, no doubt to be continued by drones and other robots, and the usual slaughter by bombers and cruise missiles, is a victory for the MICC, the USA’s real and only ‘Government’.

  132. Anonymous[721] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alden

    They are foreign shills who work off of a script they are given.

  133. @Alden

    It is welfare, but not for Whites.

    I have no reason to doubt your word but have long believed it was a form of red-neck welfare.
    Was that ever the case and if so when did it change?

  134. J J says:
    @KenH

    A military comprised of leftist white soy boys, blacks, latinos, homosexuals and transsexuals will get annihilated on the battlefield.

    I suspect that this progressive “force” is more likely to be utilized going door to door in our neighborhoods to confiscate our guns and rape and terrorize our wives and daughters. Their “battlefield” will be kicking in your suburban front door at 3 AM. Given that our schools, press and government are getting their degenerate mob fired up with anti-white propaganda and that the street mobs went almost unchecked and unpunished for a year of rioting and looting they will probably have enthusiastic support in suppressing the white Christian terrorists in this country.

    America is supposed to lose it’s place globally as the elites switch their focus over to running things from China. They are expecting to lose the next global confrontation as part of their final emasculation and destruction of the United States. The US Red Guard that they are constructing is just designed to increase the chaos and kill and degrade innocent and mostly unarmed civilians.

    • Replies: @One-off
  135. @Majority of One

    The Merkan modus operandi is to install a compradore regime of pimps, drug-runners, local potentates and paid Quislings (eg Latin America for generations)keep the boot on the people, forever, with death-squads, more or less active due to the level of suffering, keeping the rabble in line, while US corporations rape the country. If the people triumph, eg China, then never spare the effort in subversion (Xinjiang, Tibet, Hong Kong) sabotage (SARS CoV2, African Swine Flu etc)hate propaganda (non-existent Uighur ‘genocide’, lab leak in Wuhan etc)and, inevitably, military aggression (scores of examples) to return the country to slavery. The very greatest force for Evil and suffering in history.

  136. @Derer

    The USA and its stooges created al-Qaeda, but the Taliban was more the work of the Pakistani ISI.

  137. @JohnPlywood

    Hell must have broken loose.

    Yup. KISS confirms it:

  138. RestiveUs says:
    @JohnPlywood

    The truth hurts, doesn’t it…

  139. RestiveUs says:
    @Colin Wright

    That’s always been the argument against women in the ranks, too.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  140. @Alden

    It’s never occurred to you that I don’t teach ESL and grew up speaking Hungarian, huh, Alden? I’m also not a first generation college graduate — I think the paternal side had graduates of Semmelweiss going back to the late Empire.

    Also, as I’ve mentioned, I’m participating in a research study on AI that will actually replace them.

    That said, I enjoy the fanciful history you’ve developed for me. Naturally a very female thing to do. I am sorry for accusing you of being tranny earlier in the year.

  141. One-off says:
    @KenH

    You know who most realizes the non-male, non-White troops are mostly useless? HNIC Austn, that’s who. The military is obsessed with IQ, fitness evaluations and so forth, and knows the statistical realities of diversity.

    But let’s acknowledge the premise to this piece is utterly flawed. The United States has weapons of mass destruction and could achieve victory in minutes. It chooses not to do so because a quick and decisive victory is not lucrative and the potential retaliation with similar weaponry puts the “wrong” people at risk. As someone pointed out below, Afghanistan has been an astonishing success for K Street, Wall Street, the MIC and the political whores who service them

  142. @Marckus

    I’m a white man (depending on your views of Hungarians) who lives in China.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  143. @Rich

    According to IF Stone and Bruce Cumings, the latter of whom wrote one of the major histories of the Korean War, the Syngman Rhee dictatorship of South Korea asked Amerikastan for help in occupying the North in 1948. Amerikastan agreed, if the North could be shown as having attacked first. Both Cumings and Stone say that the Rhee regime then launched a ground offensive that would inevitably result in a major North Korean counteroffensive to draw Amerikastan into the war.

    Then Amerikastan, after “liberating ” South Korea (the so called UN mandate) invaded the North, but was kicked by the Chinese People’s Volunteers all the way back from the Yalu to Seoul. That counts for a defeat in *my* book.

    North Vietnam lost? Then why did Amerikastan withdraw forces instead of still being there like, say, Merkelistan?

    As for Afghanistan, do you have any idea of the difference between a battle and a war?

    But why am I even bothering to try to educate you. People who think they know everything can’t be educated.

    • LOL: Rich
    • Replies: @Rich
  144. One-off says:
    @J J

    End stage empires tend to turn on their own people in the last years.

  145. One-off says:

    Victory will have been achieved in Afghanistan only when a Holocaust Memorial opens in Kabul.

  146. @Anon

    He possibly touts the successes of the wars initiated by Hollywood – Military complex .

    “Today’s protests in Thailand join adjacent movements in Myanmar and Hong Kong

    Wut? That’s the (((Hollywood/ State/ CIA/NGO/ social media complex))).
    See also “Arab Spring,” “color revolutions,” etc.

    You forgot to mention the Uyghurs, btw. A very important element of the hegemonic narrative. Though so far, it appears they’re not gay enough to adopt the “Hunger Games” salute. So ya gotta give ’em credit for that, at least.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  147. Anonymous[158] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rich

    Don’t take Rich to serious he got hit in the head as a child by a baseball and now all he can understand is his stack of G.I. Joe’s that he’s almost worn out by endless reading, and that’s where he gets his endless rambling about winning some far off war, but he can’t remember where,

  148. @Supply and Demand

    Why are you advertising the fact that you are scum?

  149. Rich says:
    @Hans Vogel

    I’m sorry, Hans, you may be a good guy, provide for your family, tithe at your Church, ladle soup for the poor, but you are clueless about American history and how wars are fought. To fight without an ally, when allies are willing and available would be the height of folly, and criminal towards your troops. If you think the wars against the Plains Indians were wars of “extermination”, I can only conclude you learned history from watching “Dances With Wolves”. Good luck in your future endeavors.

    • Replies: @Hans Vogel
  150. @RestiveUs

    ‘That’s always been the argument against women in the ranks, too.’

    And a good argument it is, too.

  151. Bill says:
    @anon

    You know QAnon will come up with something else when nothing happens on May 1, right?

  152. Bill says:
    @teo toon

    Every day, there are fewer boomers.

  153. How many Americans, even intelligent ones, know much geography or history? What do Joe and his bum chums know of Afghanistan? Likely nothing useful. Their calculations will center around optics and leverage. Taliban don’t function on these plains.

    America is corrupt. That is why it cannot win wars. Always a bad plan and screwy leadership.

  154. Shel100 says:

    I always thought they would win.They do live there after all.

  155. Blacktail says:

    “American soldiers can still win wars”.

    A consistent history of achieving false victories in false wars against false enemies for false causes is not indicative that a nation can survive — let alone *win* — a serious fight against a peer adversary.

    • Agree: Harold Smith
    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  156. @TKK

    It is the US that is responsible for the rise of Islamic fundamentalism in Afghanistan by promoting it against the Soviets who were actually carrying out the more enlightening social policies you now try to ascribe to the US occupation.

  157. @James Forrestal

    Realities NEVER mentioned by the Austfailian presstitute vermin. ‘Colour Revolution’. The National Endowment for Democracy. ‘Regime change’. Uighur salafist butchers in Syria. Israeli support for al-Nusra Front. US interference in Hong Kong and financing of the terrorist separatist thugs there. CANVAS, and before it, Otpor etc. The lowest of the low, the nadir of humanity, beneath real estate agents and paederasts.

    • Thanks: Iris
  158. @Rich

    Thanks for your kind wishes.

    Of course, wars are usually fought (and either won or lost) with allies. However, it would seem that truly great powers have only minor allies, like France from the 16th until the mid-19th century. When it allied itself wth its arch-enemy Austria during the Seven-Years’ War, it lost.

    The US prides itself on winning two World Wars, but the vacuity of this claim has been pointed out by other commenters here.

    Korea and Vietnam were nice shows, costing a lot of death and misery especially to the Koreans and Vietnamese, but militarily and geopolitically insignificant. Understandably, in the eyes of Hollywood, these were epic struggles between Good and Evil, and thus a continuation of the Hollywood version of the World Wars. That has been the basis of the collective understanding of history in the US and many of its vassal states.

    Which does not make that understanding a truthful one.

    I will gladly introduce you to literature that may enlighten you on this point.

    • Replies: @Rich
  159. @Rich

    Like a Nazi claiming they won at Stalingrad and Kursk.

  160. @Supply and Demand

    Hungarians? The ones who boast of entering a revolving door behind you, and exiting in front of you? Marvelous semi-Asiatics.

    • Agree: Supply and Demand
  161. Mr. Giraldi thank you for your words. I don’t think anyone in the world would begrudge the US for its military if it was a DEFENSIVE force.
    I think Kennedy was right for his stance during the Cuban missile crisis. Though most people in the west don’t seem to understand that in order for the Soviets to withdraw – the US had to take some missiles out of Turkey. That’s fair. Which is why it is so hypocritical the US has forward bases all over the globe and arms proxies to be able to attack countries the US doesn’t like. That is not defense at all. People negate biblical wisdom that they claim the western world is built on… “he who digs a pit will fall in it and he who rolls a stone it will roll back on him”. It doesn’t matter how much money is spent..
    The US could cut it’s military budget in half and be able to protect the US. But not wanting any other global powers is a very very expensive proposition and dangerous… That affects the quality of life of US citizens. Very few such as yourself or maybe a Ron Paul points these things out.. We see when he ran for President the media mocked him

  162. hotrod31 says:

    I would say that the US military and the thousands of ‘contracted mercenaries’ achieved their objectives, which was; to rape and loot Afghanistan of its drugs and billion dollar natural resource wealth and install a proxy government. Therefore, objectives have been achieved. Moreover, the US and Allies have tested and used millions and millions of dollars worth of new and previously untested weapons and machinery which will gladden the hearts of ‘defence’ contractors no end. So, a definite win for the big banks and business fraternity in the US and UK and various Allied lapdogs.

  163. Tucker says:

    Another great article by Phil Giraldi.

    However, I think he kind of misses the whole point that I believe has been driving this endless and insane war mongering by the ruling class of the United States.

    Today, without any doubt whatsoever – the ‘ruling class’ of America has changed from the older, and less inclined towards imperialism and endless foreign interventions, the WASPs – but now, its the jews who have elbowed the WASPs out of power and we even see prominent jewish journalists writing articles for the New York Times where they gloat and boast about how jews are now the new ruling class of America. And, even back during the 1940s and beyond – jews still had disproportionate power and influence over the US Government – heck, they managed to drag us into two catastrophically destructive and fratricidal World Wars, which was no small feat.

    But, let me get to the real reason that I believe is playing a significant role in our political class continually embroiling the USA into senseless wars, big or small, all over the world. And this is also why the jews who manipulate us into these wars do not care whether we win or lose.

    They study the statistics very carefully – and the data tells them that the most patriotic demographic group in America, the group who is most likely to volunteer to join the military and go off to fight in these wars are…….White Males. White Southern males most particularly, and so these wars and mini-wars give jews the opportunity to kill off the White warrior class.

    There are other reasons, for sure, that also drive these endless wars – war profiteering, usury – since the US Govt has to borrow money and pay INTEREST on those loans in order to fund and finance the wars. And, we all know who collects that interest, right?

    So, in the end – at least two objectives (there are many others) are accomplished, both of which please the jewish elites who have hijacked America. Killing or maiming White soldiers – which suits the White genocide agenda – and profiting from the loans the bankers hand out to the US Govt so they can finance the wars.

    Dead White men do not come home and impregnate White women, so this means fewer White babies are born.

    Take for example WW2. Look at what a nation of cowardly, deracinated, white guilt ridden wimps the men in Germany have become. Their best, strongest, brightest, and most warrior capable men were killed off during WW2. Does anyone think for a minute that the warrior class of German men would have tolerated an evil, nation destroying witch like Angela Merkel as the leader of Germany? Not a chance in Hell. But, the wimpier German men who populate Germany today keep voting to put that nation wrecking, White race hating witch back into power. Now, I not saying that ALL German men have lost their warrior spirit- but I believe that their numbers are tiny, as compared to pre-WW2 Germany.

    The same tribe who snookered the USA into fighting a brother war and crushing Germany are following a similar template to prune out the White American warrior class.

    White military men should get the heck out of the US military before they become a casualty of this agenda. If you’re not already in, do not join.

  164. Personally I think it will be a cold day in August, as Batman said to Robin, when the Jewnited States leaves Afghan, or anywhere else where it has thoroughly worn out its welcome, without being unwillingly levered out.

    The Jewnited States (also the Mad Dog) business is war, destruction, occupation, looting, drugs, homopedo + braggadocio on behalf of its Tel Aviv/London overlords. It has ~850 bases around the world working for its masters plus their “American” lackeys get a slice of the action. All while its own country collapses.

    The JUSA is Mayer Lansky, ie a global Crime Cartel.
    Almost unbelievable it could continue on this lunatic path of (self-) destruction.

    (Btw the Batman quote is for avg American’s comprehension.)

    • Replies: @InnerCynic
  165. @Arthur MacBride

    Chalmers Johnson first opened my eyes to the military archipelago that encircles the world.

    • Replies: @Arthur MacBride
  166. @Anon

    Hollywood is indeed the most potent weapon of mass destruction

  167. @Harry Huntington

    Most of Japan’s military was tied up in China since 1937 that’s why…. In fact the reason they attacked Pearl Harbor was because the US stopped supplying Japan with material. Without that material their forces in China would have disintegrated quickly… Though Japan’s navy would have been ok – their army would have died in China (actually that’s where most of their casualties were). That’s why they made the desperate decision to just fight the US.

    • Replies: @Harry Huntington
  168. @InnerCynic

    Right.
    CJ did some good work alerting Americans (and others like me who are interested) about US military bases which “encircle the planet” as he put it.
    I think in his writing (he died ten years ago) he talked about 700 bases; there are now almost 900 such bases …
    … and US infrastructure/economy/society is collapsing.

    There has not been any recorded alarm or condolence, much less reconstruction plans, afaik from Tel Aviv or even DC about this situation … nor any stated intention by JUSA to enter the world as a normal trading etc partner with the rest of the world.
    There are even Americans, some on this site, who believe the best thing that their Mad Dog can now do is to nuke the Three Gorges Dam, or Moscow …

    Here is a link to one of Chalmers Johnson’s papers —

    https://apjjf.org/-Chalmers-Johnson/2029/article.html

  169. @showmethereal

    My point was slightly different. Given Japan’s decision to attack the US, and given Japan’s finite resources, it was fully capable of engaging in the attacks I described, but it did not do so. Thus although Pearl Harbor was a shock to the US, it was not the death blow that it could have been. Japan could have executed additional strikes on Pearl Harbor to render it useless and devoid of fuel reserves. That would have pushed the US Pacific Fleet back to the west coast. Then if the Japanese had used their submarines to target replenishment ships, the US Navy would have been incapable of long range Pacific operations staged from the West Coast. There was a delightful piece not too many years ago in an Air Force publication that discussed in some detail Japan’s failure to consider how to target American logistics in WWII. The take away point for today is we must assume China will not make the same mistakes that Japan made and on Day 0 of any war with the US will target/sink all of the US tankers equipped for underway replenishment. You can mission kill US aircraft carriers and other task groups by attacking them, or by killing their fleet oilers. WWII in the pacific would have been a different war if Japan had killed the US fleet oilers.

    • Replies: @showmethereal
  170. KA says:

    He said, “A year ago, Ben-Ali and Gaddafi were not in power.  Assad won’t be in power this time next year.  This Arab Spring is a virus that will attack Moscow and Beijing.” McCain then walked off the stage.

    Comparing the Arab Spring to a virus is not new for the Senator — but to my knowledge, coupling Russia and China to the comment is.
    Senator McCain’s framing reflects a triumphalism bouncing around at this conference.  It sees the Arab Spring as a product of Western design — and potentially as a tool to take on other non-democratic governments. 
    At an earlier session, Senator Udall said that those who believed that the Arab Spring was an organic revolution from within these countries were wrong — and that the West and NATO in particular had been primary drivers of results in Libya — and that the West had helped animate and move affairs in Egypt.  Udall provocatively added Syria to that list as well.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/11/the-arab-spring-a-virus-that-will-attack-moscow-and-beijing/248762/

    ISIS will be recruited to get the unfinished job done .

  171. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    Certainly racial tension sometimes surfaced in the Vietnam War, although Hollywood films tend to play it down – even Platoon and Full Metal Jacket did so.

  172. Btet says:
    @Daniel H

    As an outsider I have just 1 thing to say, STOP MEDDLING. The world will be a better place.

  173. @Blacktail

    A consistent history of achieving false victories in false wars against false enemies for false causes…

    Great comment. And I would add:

    …with the tacit approval/participation of people brainwashed by fake history taught in fake schools, promoted by fake news, all presided over by the fake politicians of a fake “government” who do nothing but the dirty work of fake jews, and all paid for with fake money…or something like that.

    • Thanks: ChuckOrloski
  174. geokat62 says:

    When General Grant Expelled the Jews – 1862

  175. Rich says:
    @Hans Vogel

    My internet dictionary defines “literature” as ‘Imaginative or creative writing, especially of recognized artistic value.”

    Many of the modern, and leftist histories of the Korean and Vietnam Conflicts have certainly been both creative and imaginative, rarely have they been truthful. Academia and media can no longer be trusted as honest when it comes to American history. But we can still look at facts. In Korea for instance, the purpose of the War was to prevent a communist takeover of the entire peninsula, it worked. In Nam the US was out of the theater for 2 years before the North was able to defeat the South, after a leftist government had taken over both Houses of Congress and, because it was sympathetic to the communist cause, refused to honor its treaty obligations and did not support South Vietnam. Those are hard facts. Impossible to argue. I think facts are considered “racist” now, though, and aren’t to be discussed in polite society.

  176. Rich says:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    I was laughing so hard at the idea that someone would quote Isadore Feinstein (IF Stone) a known Soviet agent on anything historical, that I forgot to point out that he was a confirmed communist for those who might be unfamiliar with him.

  177. @Harry Huntington

    Ok I understand better now… but I don’t think Japan had the resources to do that at the time…

  178. @Rich

    You are ever so right to distrust much of historical writing, or literature, (which fundamentally means everything that is rendered in letters, including imaginative writing).

    Academia and media can no longer be trusted as honest when it comes to American history.

    Quite so, but this applies to all nations and all periods, nothing new under the sun. In this respect I sincerely recommend the three articles here on UNZ by “The First Millennium Revisionist.”

    As for your observations on Korea and Vietnam, I would not be so sure about the “danger” of Communism. For starters, as Anthony Sutton has demonstrated, Communism was installed in Russia with American financial and political support (Woodrow Wilson!), and built up in the 1930s with American know-how and financial support.

    I think the entire Cold War needs to be regarded as a cunning charade, and there was and still is no danger of “nuclear war” because there is compelling evidence that it is technically impossible to build a nuclear bomb. Even the first “nuclear bombs” thrown at Hiroshima and Nagasaki were fakes.

    I recommend https://archive.org/details/Hiroshima_revisited/

  179. @Trial by Wombat

    That quotation “Men are apt to be deceived…” at the end of your article is brilliant. Who wrote that?

  180. antibeast says:
    @Rich

    In Nam the US was out of the theater for 2 years before the North was able to defeat the South, after a leftist government had taken over both Houses of Congress and, because it was sympathetic to the communist cause, refused to honor its treaty obligations and did not support South Vietnam.

    The USA lost the Vietnam War due to its political failure to support South Vietnam against the Vietnamese Communists whose Tet Offensive ended in failure against the US military in South Vietnam. After failing to achieve its military objective of defeating the Vietnamese Communists, the US military then decided to withdraw from South Vietnam due to lack of political support from the USA.

    Same thing is happening in Afghanistan where the USA is supposed to withdraw the US military on May 1st, 2021 as negotiated by the Trump Administration with the Taliban. If that happens, then that would mean the USA has lost the ‘War on Terror’ in Afghanistan after fighting the Taliban for almost 20 years.

  181. Anonymous[252] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rich

    Hmm, what a sick individual where black is white and white is black and just to inform you the goal in Korea was to take it all that’s why they went clear to China’s border and paid the price all the way back, you have no facts but dreams which replaces reality a shrink may do you a lot of good..

  182. MEH 0910 says:

  183. Johan says:

    The article belongs in categories like ‘American barbarism all over the place’, ‘The Stinking Rotten Apple of the World’. A such the comments section stinks like hell.
    Sartre wrote that the other is hell, another that the world is hell, I say the US is hell.

  184. aj54 says:

    “…never get involved in a land war in Asia…”

  185. Australiaas longest serving Foreign Minister, Alexander Downer , though no genius, makes a pretty good case for our supporting the US in Afghanistan in the Australian Financial Review. (We lost 43 killed but only 1 in Iraq which I trust reflects Australia’s relative enthusiasm for supporting our ally).  I’ll try to copy and paste the whole article but this extract is what makes me post it at all.

    “Well, US President Joe Biden has decided the Americans should leave Afghanistan and understandably Prime Minister Scott Morrison has said the Australian troops will be withdrawn as well. The Australian Defence Force obviously cannot stay there alone.

    I’m surprised that Biden has replicated the populist Trump strategy which was to unilaterally withdraw from Afghanistan. I have always argued, as I did with Iraq, that withdrawal should be determined by conditions..

    We saw what happened when President Obama prematurely withdrew from Iraq. Islamic State moved to seize the northern part of the country and launched vigorous and bloody attacks against the Iraqi government and defence forces, and also in Syria. As a result, President Obama had to reverse his decision and send American troops back in to deal with IS.

    I well understand the way public moods can change. At one stage the public was outraged by the 9/11 attacks and welcomed the overthrow of the brutal Taliban regime that had supported al-Qaeda. Then the public supported nation-building in Afghanistan because of the horrors of the human rights abuses of the Taliban. Time has moved on and the public has lost interest. I understand all that.

    But that is not the basis of good policy. Good policy defines objectives, and the objective is to ensure that the Afghan people have some sort of a future, and not be doomed to the dystopian nightmare of a Taliban regime – which would be as sexist and homophobic as any regime could conceivably be.

    Prgesident Biden is responding to populist pressure rather than pushing ahead supporting the negotiations between Afghanistan and the Taliban. That’s a policy that is replete with risks.”.

    Too much copy and paste. If you want the whole articlecand can’t get it just ask and I’ll try again.

    Nut what do you say to that,?

    I note that most of 20 years giving millions of girls a fair chance of being educated and not putting up with the old ways may prove to be significant.

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    , @anon
  186. Anonymous[204] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    When you try to rule the world policy goes out the window, Bush sold Iraq and Afghanistan to the people by a pack of lies, we had no business there for we were defending nothing that was of any value to them or us for its only value laid with MIC and the military generals who rotate in and out, so it looks good on their resume. So mark up another failure which we have a very long list of starting at the end of 1945 when we were already looking for another war and this one cost us a few trillion that we don’t and didn’t have, and now they are casting about looking for another war in the shinning light with all its bullshit about democracy can get us into..

  187. anon[255] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    “ We saw what happened when President Obama prematurely withdrew from Iraq. Islamic State moved to seize the northern part of the country and launched vigorous and bloody attacks against the Iraqi government and defence forces, and also in Syria. As a result, President Obama had to reverse his decision and send American troops back in to deal with I”

    America repeats itself . Empire commits same crimes hoping it will work again as it has before .
    After WW2 USA made sure the nazis could be used and fascists could be harnessed locally , Europewide and even inside USA for political and scientific purposes.

    ISIS was the creation of America whose leitmotif goes back to Eisenhower ( USA) and Churchill or Wilson ( UK) administration.
    USA and NATO have ferried ISIS to Afghanistan.

    Idea is same – to return .

    Now it will be up to the civilized nations ( sans USA UK Israel France and their dependents ) to strike back and demolish this hundred years old dirty tricks once for all .

    • Replies: @anonymous
  188. anonymous[334] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Trying to separate ISIS from other outfits or hardcore Jihadist or from Al Quiada is a futile and undeserving attempt because they are same and they have been al along .The ideological moderates championed by warmongering Mc Cain is nothing but zero order of magnitude different from ISIS .

    Can we separate Cameron from Blair, Thatcher from Clinton or Bush jr rom Cheney or Rumsfield , just over some differences to LGBT or climate ?No. Can we separate the Zionist ideologues of 1940 from the current crop of the neocons? Not at all.
    We can look at the worsening of the culture among the Zionsist – moderates losing grips to the more ruthless radical racist Zionist . It’s in the eggs. We can seee the rise of populist Trump – a worse version of Cheney and Clinton combined hitched to the navel of the Israel . But only worse. ISIS is same and father is same -America.

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