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In 2020, we saw the enshrinement of techno-feudalism – one of the overarching themes of my latest book, Raging Twenties.

In lightning speed, the techno-feudalism virus is metastasizing into an even more lethal, wilderness of mirrors variant, where cancel culture is enforced by Big Tech all across the spectrum, science is routinely debased as fake news in social media, and the average citizen is discombobulated to the point of lobotomy.

Giorgio Agamben has defined it as a new totalitarianism.

Top political analyst Alastair Crooke has attempted a sharp breakdown of the broader configuration.

Geopoliticallly, the Hegemon would even resort to 5G war to maintain its primacy, while seeking moral legitimization via the woke revolution, duly exported to its Western satrapies.

The woke revolution is a culture war – in symbiosis with Big Tech and Big Business – that has smashed the real thing: class war. The atomized working classes, struggling to barely survive, have been left to wallow in anomie.

The great panacea, actually the ultimate “opportunity” offered by Covid-19, is the Great Reset advanced by Herr Schwab of Davos: essentially the replacement of a dwindling manufacturing base by automation, in tandem with a reset of the financial system.

The concomitant wishful thinking envisages a world economy that will “move closer to a cleaner capitalist model”. One of its features is a delightfully benign Council for Inclusive Capitalism in partnership with the Catholic Church.

As much as the pandemic – the “opportunity” for the Reset – was somewhat rehearsed by Event 201 in October 2019, additional strategies are already in place for the next steps, such as Cyber Polygon, which warns against the “key risks of digitalization”. Don’t miss their “technical exercise” on July 9th, when “participants will hone their practical skills in mitigating a targeted supply chain attack on a corporate ecosystem in real time.”

A New Concert of Powers?

Sovereignty is a lethal threat to the ongoing cultural revolution. That concerns the role of the European Union institutions – especially the European Commission – going no holds barred to dissolve the national interests of nation states. And that largely explains the weaponizing, in varying degrees, of Russophobia, Sinophobia and Iranophobia.

The anchoring essay in Raging Twenties analyzes the stakes in Eurasia exactly in terms of the Hegemon pitted against the Three Sovereigns – which are Russia, China and Iran.

It’s under this framework, for instance, that a massive, 270-plus page bill, the Strategic Competition Act , has been recently passed at the US Senate. That goes way beyond geopolitical competition, charting a road map to fight China across the full spectrum. It’s bound to become law, as Sinophobia is a bipartisan sport in D.C.

Hegemon oracles such as the perennial Henry Kissinger at least are taking a pause from their customary Divide and Rule shenanigans to warn that the escalation of “endless” competition may derail into hot war – especially considering AI and the latest generations of smart weapons.

On the incandescent US-Russia front, where Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov sees the lack of mutual trust, no to mention respect, as much worse than during the Cold War, analyst Glenn Diesen notes how the Hegemon “strives to convert the security dependence of the Europeans into geoeconomic loyalty”.

That’s at the heart of a make-or-break saga: Nord Stream 2. The Hegemon uses every weapon – including cultural war, where convicted crook Navalny is a major pawn – to derail an energy deal that is essential for Germany’s industrial interests. Simultaneously, pressure increases against Europe buying Chinese technology.

Meanwhile, NATO – which lords over the EU – keeps being built up as a global Robocop, via the NATO 2030 project – even after turning Libya into a militia-ridden wasteland and having its collective behind humiliatingly spanked in Afghanistan.

For all the sound and fury of sanction hysteria and declinations of cultural war, the Hegemon establishment is not exactly blind to the West “losing not only its material dominance but also its ideological sway”.

So the Council on Foreign Relations – in a sort of Bismarckian hangover – is now proposing a New Concert of Powers to deal with “angry populism” and “illiberal temptations”, conducted of course by those malign actors such as “pugnacious Russia” who dare to “challenge the West’s authority”.

As much as this geopolitical proposal may be couched in benign rhetoric, the endgame remains the same: to “restore US leadership”, under US terms. Damn those “illiberals” Russia, China and Iran.

Crooke evokes exactly a Russian and a Chinese example to illustrate where the woke cultural revolution may lead to.

In the case of the Chinese cultural revolution, the end result was chaos, fomented by the Red Guards, which started to wreak their own particular havoc independent of the Communist Party leadership.

And then there’s Dostoevsky in The Possessed, which showed how the secular Russian liberals of the 1840s created the conditions for the emergence of the 1860s generation: ideological radicals bent on burning down the house.

No question: “revolutions” always eat their children. It usually starts with a ruling elite imposing their newfound Platonic Forms on others. Remember Robespierre. He formulated his politics in a very Platonic way – “the peaceful enjoyment of liberty and equality, the reign of eternal justice” with laws “engraved in the hearts of all men”.

Well, when others disagreed with Robespierre’s vision of Virtue, we all know what happened: the Terror. Just like Plato, incidentally, recommended in Laws. So it’s fair to expect that the children of the woke revolution will eventually be eaten alive by their zeal.

Canceling freedom of speech

As it stands, it’s fair to argue when the “West” started to go seriously wrong – in a cancel culture sense. Allow me to offer the Cynic/Stoic point of view of a 21st century global nomad.

ORDER IT NOW

If we need a date, let’s start with Rome – the epitome of the West – in the early 5th century. Follow the money. That’s the time when income from properties owned by temples were transferred to the Catholic Church – thus boosting its economic power. By the end of the century, even gifts to temples were forbidden.

In parallel, a destruction overdrive was in progress – fueled by Christian iconoclasm, ranging from crosses carved in pagan statues to bathhouses converted into churches. Bathing naked? Quelle horreur!

The devastation was quite something. One of the very few survivors was the fabulous bronze statue of Marcus Aurelius on horseback, in the Campidoglio/ Capitoline Hill (today it’s housed in the museum). The statue survived only because the pious mobs thought the emperor was Constantine.

The very urban fabric of Rome was destroyed: rituals, the sense of community, singin’ and dancin’. We should remember that people still lower their voices when entering a church.

For centuries we did not hear the voices of the dispossessed. A glaring exception is to be found in an early 6th century text by an Athenian philosopher, quoted by Ramsay MacMullen in Christianity and Paganism in the Fourth to Eight Centuries.

The Greek philosopher wrote that Christians are “a race dissolved in every passion, destroyed by controlled self-indulgence, cringing and womanish in its thinking, close to cowardice, wallowing in all swinishness, debased, content with servitude in security.”

If that sounds like a proto-definition of 21st century Western cancel culture, that’s because it is.

Things were also pretty bad in Alexandria. A Christian mob killed and dismembered the alluring Hypatia, mathematician and philosopher. That de facto ended the era of great Greek mathematics. No wonder Gibbon turned the assassination of Hypatia into a remarkable set piece in Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire (“In the bloom of beauty, and in the maturity of wisdom, the modest maid refused her lovers and instructed her disciples; the persons most illustrious for their rank or merit were impatient to visit the female philosopher”).

Under Justinian – emperor from 527 to 565 – cancel culture went after paganism no holds barred. One of his laws ended imperial toleration of all religions, which was in effect since Constantine in 313.

If you were a pagan, you’d better get ready for the death penalty. Pagan teachers – especially philosophers – were banned. They lost their parrhesia: their license to teach (here is Foucault’s brilliant analysis).

Parrhesia – loosely translated as “frank criticism” – is a tremendously serious issue: for no less than a thousand years, this was the definition of freedom of speech (italics mine).

There you go: first half of the 6th century. This was when freedom of speech was canceled in the West.

The last Egyptian temple – to Isis, in an island in southern Egypt – was shut down in 526. The legendary Plato’s Academy – with no less than 900 years of teaching in its curriculum – was shut down in Athens in 529.

Guess where the Greek philosophers chose to go into exile: Persia.

Those were the days – in the early 2nd century – when the greatest Stoic, Epictetus, a freed slave from Phrygia, admirer of both Socrates and Diogenes, was consulted by an emperor, Hadrian; and became the role model of another emperor, Marcus Aurelius.

History tells us that the Greek intellectual tradition simply did not fade away in the West. It was a target of cancel culture.

 
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  1. Rahan says:

    Sounds about right.
    Only in the current period of instantaneous communication, super fast travel, and computer algorithms, processes that would have taken a 100 years in the ancient world, take 10 years now.
    Compressed, speeded up time.

    • Agree: Old and Grumpy
  2. Realist says:

    In lightning speed, the techno-feudalism virus is metastasizing into an even more lethal, wilderness of mirrors variant, where cancel culture is enforced by Big Tech all across the spectrum, science is routinely debased as fake news in social media, and the average citizen is discombobulated to the point of lobotomy.

    Those that can think for themselves are ahead of the curve.

    Excellent points made in this article.

    • Agree: Alfred
  3. I remember walking around the temples at Ba’albek, Lebanon and noting that the Temple of Bacchus wasn’t completed until about 150 A.D. It must surely have been among the last great outpourings of pagan piety because in another 150 years it was all over. The One God chases out the many gods.

    Now, Christianity retreats from this strange new Woke-ist religion, and I realize how the devout pagan hold-outs must have felt.

  4. quelle horreur Translation “how awful”. This is about bathing, not just naked public bathing but bathing.
    Christianity has retarded human progress since it’s inception and it will do so until the end. So will Islam, Judaism, Brahmanism and all these cults.
    Just because these cults have millions of followers doesn’t mean they aren’t cults.
    Please define the difference between a religion and cult in plain English if you feel offended.

  5. El Dato says:

    So it’s fair to expect that the children of the woke revolution will eventually be eaten alive by their zeal.

    World-savior independent girl and nu-male, what you gonna do when they come for you? It will be worse than just not getting offered a seat by Erdogan the Ottoman. Oh well.

    Apparently a lot of people believe Hollywood Paint has been applied everywhere:

    essentially the replacement of a dwindling manufacturing base by automation, in tandem with a reset of the financial system

    Not a chance. No automation will get legumes on your plate, electricity out of your wall socket or will fix your plumbing.

    As for the “reset of the financial system”, we are off to a good start, implementing Weimar-era (and also in, yes, pre-revolutionary France-era) money printing going above the historical levels of the first 20 years of the 21st century.

    A bit incidental but illustrative: One may note that a good chunk of governmental and non-governmental IT has been rogered to Chernobyl levels recently (i.e. the only the way to ‘fix your site’ may be to reinstall everything from zero) with that SolarWinds hack. Because SolarWinds code should have been maintained at quality levels of a vaccine production chain but was actually maintained at quality levels of an indian meat shop. “TRUST THE AUTOMATION” must be yet another slogan of MiniTrue.

    • Replies: @Jiminy
  6. PJ London says:

    “I do not find in orthodox Christianity one redeeming feature.” —
    Thomas Jefferson

    • Replies: @GomezAdddams
  7. Thomasina says:

    “If we need a date, let’s start with Rome – the epitome of the West – in the early 5th century. Follow the money. That’s the time when income from properties owned by temples were transferred to the Catholic Church – thus boosting its economic power.”

    Yes, then, as now, follow the money.

    The current “woke” culture didn’t naturally well-up from within the population.

    This “thing” has been artificially engineered, manufactured and steered in the direction “the money” forces want it to go.

    From Covid to the French Revolution to Rome – all made to LOOK natural, as if they just appeared out of the blue or were a natural progression that couldn’t be stopped, but when you pull back the curtain you see the hands of “the money” firmly on the steering wheel.

    Some people say the Bible was invented during this time in order to bring down Rome. They’re probably right.

    Who is “the money”?

    • Replies: @MarkU
    , @animalogic
  8. Cowboy says:

    Oh look! A circle jerk of pagans lead by the mighty Peepee. Oh joy!

    • Agree: Catdog
    • Troll: Nostradamus
    • Replies: @BoomerMCMXLVII
  9. Baxter says:

    All Pagan societies eventually suffer one of two fates. They either die of despair-as was the case with the Mediterranean world of antiquity. Or they become fixed and immutable, but continue-only changing by copying external things-as with Japan.
    The Catholic Church preserved all that could be preserved from Ancient Rome and breathed new life into a dying society. Having lost the Faith, the post-Christian West has returned to Paganism and the belief man is sufficient to himself.
    Modern Paganism isn’t like that of the Greek philosophers, however. Their Paganism sought truth and nobility, insofar as it could in the absence of revealed truth (that held by the Church) and is probably the highest Paganism can go. Modern Paganism worships perversion-our modern art, architecture, music, dress and sex-relations are throughly corrupted by it. What great horror is next is anyone’s guess.

    • Thanks: GMC
  10. anon[907] • Disclaimer says:

    Doesn’t the destruction of Carthage count as a “cancellation”?

    • Replies: @animalogic
  11. Franz says:

    History tells us that the Greek intellectual tradition simply did not fade away in the West. It was a target of cancel culture.

    Killed then misrepresented: In The Darkening Age, Catherine Nixey rolls out all the details. Christianity’s greatest crime was the rise of a level of superstition and fear never before witnessed. Even stone atheists will cringe at the lies — propagated at the top — that Church leaders pushed on their victims. It was worse than some of us suspected. Nixey’s book is not a fun read.

    The Greek philosopher was spot on with his observation:

    “a race dissolved in every passion…cringing and womanish in its thinking, close to cowardice, wallowing in all swinishness…”

    If by “womanish in its thinking” he was referring to nothing but emotional (and being Greek it’s likely) he was right on the money, then and now. From BLM to the selling of the Covid death vaccinations, emotion has become the West’s preferred form of discourse. What killed the Elder Culture now destroys their late-era survivors with a mass nervous breakdown.

    • Thanks: Alfred
    • Replies: @C.T.
  12. UR2 says:

    Ever notice how Pepe, who can make a lot of sense about world affairs, goes to pieces in history, philosophy and religion? He is not only deeply conflicted but even ‘woke’! Apparently, Pepe, like Foucault (who is praised in all his articles) is a frequenter of homosexual bathhouses. This could also explain his constant voice against genuine Christianity and its (dogmatic) claim that homosexuality is intrinsically disordered. Yeah Paganism!: sexual encounters with vestal prostitutes.. then with a man and then another. Whoopie! There is a difference between revelling and ‘singing and dancing’. Catholics and Orthodox are famous for their dances and music. Why is he trying to cast them in a Puritan mold? The Deceiver himself has nothing on you in this article. Hey Pepe, study the Punic Wars and try to understand what Rome had against Carthage.

    • Agree: Catdog
    • Replies: @MarkU
  13. MarkU says:
    @Thomasina

    I think we know who you are talking about, the same (((people))) that created most of history’s worst bloodbaths.

  14. MarkU says:
    @UR2

    Hey Pepe, study the Punic Wars and try to understand what Rome had against Carthage.

    Because the Romans would never demonise their enemies would they? I mean who could imagine that? The Romans were lovely people and would never do anything perverse or barbaric, no honestly.

  15. Meena says:

    Repressive and non-repressive governments ,democratically elected governments and those governments imposed from outside ,all have been cancelling messages that they do not like .Recent experiences of Twitter in India is typical of the third world’s way of cancelling . America always in times of wars ,have been extremely engaged and successful in cancelling antiwar discourses in public and private domains ,in secular and religious spaces ,in campuses and have prevented the media from airing any cautionary view. Our financial ruins of 2008 can be blamed to selective listening and to the cancel cultures . Current stock market as an indicator of financial and economic health of the nation is based on the cancel culture. Foreign lobby doesn’t exist in our awareness because the cancel culture disappears them. Anti Russian,anti Chinese sentiment or anti Venezuelan attitudes leave no space for introspection or for fact findings or even for expression of meaningful sympathy . Thanks to cancel culture . Its been so far targeted abroad or been relevant to the foreign issues . Like war has come home ,so has the cancel culture.

    • Agree: Nancy, Alfred
  16. @Thomasina

    “Who is “the money”?”
    Pepe gives us the answer —
    “The woke revolution is a culture war – in symbiosis with Big Tech and Big Business – that has smashed the real thing: class war. The atomized working classes, struggling to barely survive, have been left to wallow in anomie.”
    The “woke” are tools to fracture nations, a people, patriotism, social norms, families, morality, the future & anything which could possibly hinder the progress of the 600 odd (multi-billionaire) families who RULE this planet.

    • Agree: GomezAdddams
    • Thanks: Thomasina
    • Replies: @Mefobills
  17. @anon

    “Doesn’t the destruction of Carthage count as a “cancellation”?”
    LOL! Carthage really did get it’s ticket punched…. But, no
    – that was merely the Romans getting a bit cranky. (Or – 3rd time’s the charm ?)
    Corinth, at the same time, also suffered a bout of Roman vexation.

  18. Svevlad says:

    Actually, if you REALLY want the date when things went wrong, you have to go even earlier – as Christianity’s most extreme excesses in the early days were a reaction to the Roman (and Rome-affiliated) elite’s… worst excesses. Mostly in the economic sense, the ludicrous economic polarization. You know, stuff Michael Hudson talks about.

    So they did a little trolling and went too far – though the REAL damage was from the Germanic barbarians who practically functioned under the very “socially authoritarian” proto-liberal model where there isn’t even a need for a totalitarian tyranny, the society itself works like that. A primitive and uncivilized worldview that still hasn’t been expunged from their system – but it soon will be.

    • Replies: @Marshall Lentini
  19. Bert33 says:

    And what if the internet breaks and you don’t even get to read all the political agitprop primer-stuff? Do you have to just run around in a little circle to do your part for the revolution? LOL

    Don’t forget to take an outside sunshine break on a regular basis, fresh air is good medicine!! Blessed be, one and all! Eat your veggies and remember to feed the cat!

  20. anon[307] • Disclaimer says:

    The woke revolution is a culture war – in symbiosis with Big Tech and Big Business – that has smashed the real thing: class war.

    this is why it’s very important to be deliberately offensive. saying “nigger” is a revolutionary act. but in the age of the beta male, revolutionaries are too few to succeed and are punished.

  21. So many roundabout epithets: woke, Big Tech/Business, the hegemon and his “satrapies” (“critical theory” was developed in Western Europe, not the US). The Ziocorporate globalists terrorists of the US/NATO/EU, whom the Chinese and Russian elites follow as the essential driving force behind the global order and essential business partners, like 2 minor suzerains trying not to provoke the most powerful one to ensure future joint ventures and negotiations, took a giant dump on the concept of “freedom of speech” the moment Holocaust denial was made a crime.

    Ziocorporate power, like the Catholic mafia, will not only keep being exempted from taxes and shielded by their inherent influence and “hate speech” laws, but expect to take their control of the taxcattle to new levels with post-plandemic transhumanist “social justice”, WEF-style.

  22. @Svevlad

    And if you really really want to date when things started to go wrong, how about those devilish Optimates? or the cold little simian sociopath who discovered that fire makes other animals taste good? And let’s not forget the Oxygen Holocaust – true thing!

    • LOL: Svevlad
  23. @Rev. Spooner

    Please define the difference between a religion and cult in plain English if you feel offended.

    Actually, I’m not offended, just intrigued by the question.

    At a first cut, I’d suppose a “cult” is characterised by slavish reverence and obedience to the personal doctrines of an individual or collective of human beings having no particular, and certainly no substantive, claim to deity. That’s especially so when the gurus have an identifiable ulterior motive (Scientology comes to mind – an independently intelligent thinker might be compelled to ask how can people be so dumb?).

    On the other hand, a “religion” defers to powers higher than human ken. In that case, yes, Satanism is a religion – just probably not the crowd to be caught with on Judgement Day (whether from Skynet or otherwise). Ditto the fictional narrative around “The Force” in George Lucas’ classic Star Wars frachise.

    As for the distorted views of rapture-chasing idiots like Pompeo etc, when one assumes the authority to change the deity-authorised rules of a religion and just start making shit up, then that probably qualifies as a “cult”.

    Bottom line, it’s probably all in the eye of the beholder. If you’re a true believer, then it’s a “religion”. If you have neither belief in a religious species nor respect for its adherents, then it’s a “cult”.

    An alternative view might be that “religions” are based around life philosophies that recognise a larger reality than we can perceive here in the material realm, whereas “cults” probably not so much. The more enduring religions seem to have quite a legacy of spooky stuff that so-called “modern science” might have difficulty in resolving (perhaps not so much nowadays, seeing how “science” has become such an arbitrary discipline subject to social and political whim).

    All in the eye of the beholder.

    • Thanks: Joe Levantine
    • Replies: @dfordoom
  24. Nothing spells the demise of whites by implementation of “critical race Theory” throughout the nation. Who the hell even came up with that must have been the most despicable racist the world has ever known.
    This “Womeism” is no different that socialism, fascism, Marxism or communism.

  25. What is remotely ‘alternative’ about this piece?

    Mainstream culture is saturated with Satanism. I don’t need to ferret about out on ‘alternative’ websites to find people telling me I’m a fool for believing in God.

    It’s the same as Steve Sailer telling us to get vaccinated. I need to come to Unz to hear that?

    I’m beginning to think UR is showing signs of Drudgery.

  26. gotmituns says:

    The Germanic tribes should have been left in peace by the Christian missionaries in their forests. If the Germans had never been tampered with, maybe all this mayhem (crusades, reformations, peasants revolt, WW1&2, etc. might have been avoided

  27. Stoicism is the epitome of Woke Philosophy= you will have nothing and you will be happy.

    • Replies: @Druid55
  28. Icy Blast says:

    It doesn’t sound right to me. No doubt the author is a fan of Stalin and the Soviet Union – the very essence of the Deep State. The Top Dogs in the USSR – the most prolific murderers in human history – have their analogues – indeed, even their literal relatives – in New York City and Washington (The Swamp) right now! These are our Overlords.

    • Agree: Druid55
  29. Boris II says:

    White nationalists getting cancelled is good.

  30. BorisMay says:
    @Rev. Spooner

    I’m not offended but just for the sake of your understanding… A religion has a creed and a cult does not.

    Thus Anglicanism is a religion and Christian Science is a cult.

    The difference, however, between Christianity and paganism is actually nill.

    Catholic Christians worship images such as statues of Mary and Child or Christ on the cross.

    Orthodox worship and pray to paintings of Christ, Mother and Child and numerous saints.

    And Christians are also cannibals eating the flesh and blood of Christ, at least symbolically, unless you believe that it is symbolic!

    But then Christians also believe that animals do not have souls, which is why they eat them just like Moslems and Jews do.

    And Jews believe goyim don’t have souls which is why they eat Christian children (and presumably Moslem children too.)

    Christianity has always been pagan because paganism is the worship of statues and images.

  31. It’s under this framework, for instance, that a massive, 270-plus page bill, the Strategic Competition Act , has been recently passed at the US Senate. That goes way beyond geopolitical competition, charting a road map to fight China across the full spectrum. It’s bound to become law, as Sinophobia is a bipartisan sport in D.C.

    To take measures that would strengthen the U.S. in the face of China’s competition is not the same as Sinophobia. It’s simply the result of the existence of sovereign nation-states, a concept which you so eloquently uphold.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  32. BorisMay says:

    We know that Rome was ruled by 1000 families who formed not only the merchant class but also the military. This is how it is in all successful empires from the Sumerians through to the British.

    The first exception to this rule was the US empire, followed by the USSR empire and every pipsqueak would be world hegemon since. This is because finance capitalism rather than trade became paramount as a tool of trade and war.

    The disadvantage of finance capitalism is that it creates its own illusions…which it calls the new reality or Build Back Better. But of course while it is easy to destroy, as the ruling families are doing currently, it is much more difficult to build something either old or new.

    The ruling families have obtained their wealth by destroying everything around them. They do not have the ability, the skills or the mind set to construct anything positive.

    Consequently while the ruling families may destroy everything and everything they touch, they will never be able to Build Back Better because only blithering idiots would destroy the very world from which they depended on to feed their unnatural greed.

    The world, along with the ruling families, will collapse and from the ashes, new people will resurrect that of the old world worth preserving and build a new world minus the scum, the parasites and the termites of finance capitalism.

  33. @PJ London

    He could not live a chaste life and therefore took aim at religion days and had that chocolate layer by night. Archie Bunker ain’t no idiot –he knew well that Jefferson was a chip off the old block and Lionel was a train in motion—-.

  34. @MarkU

    Tbe archaeological record has spoken. It is quite clear that the Punic society practised a vicious form of child sacrifice.
    We can all be grateful for Romes’ determination and resolve.
    We are all finding out that their are ideas and practices that must be destroyed or they destroy humanity. Clearly, Rome was thorough but missed some. Now they have regrouped.

  35. Jiminy says:
    @El Dato

    In your last paragraph you mentioned the Solarwinds hack. Something similar is now going on with the Australian military and their use of a battlefield computer program. Seems like there’s a backdoor setup that allows another country to collect information and spy on it’s clientele. Who would have guessed that it’s everyone’s friend, poor misunderstood Israel. Battle Management Systems produced by Elbit Systems is worth billions and is used to co-ordinate and control army assets during a time of war. There’s a story about it on abc.net.au

    • Replies: @Badger Down
  36. Lemming says:

    Since when is woke mayor of Paris Anne Hidalgo a Muslim?

  37. Mancubus says:

    I keep happening on these mentions of manufacturing jobs succumbing to automation, and I can’t think of where these people are getting their information.

    I work in manufacturing. Production manufacturing, in fact, involving hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands of parts produced per week. Automation has come a long way, but it also hasn’t. A layman might marvel at the technologies while taking a tour of the factory, but upon closer inspection, the returns are greatly diminished in the last two decades. Advances have afforded greater precision, cheaper technologies, but the only reason China is a giant of manufacturing is because labor is cheap. They automate less than Western factories, not more, because humans cost next to nothing, but machines are expensive.

  38. @Baxter

    No one knows what ancient paganism believed or practiced. They were genocide. Modern pagans seem like offshoots of hippies. Hopefully they are physically harmless as hippies. Also let us hope they do not have the cultural impact the sixties crowd did. I am intrigued by the ancients, but not impressed with the imitations. Sad since I would love to believe in some higher power that had no historical ties to an ancient pimp and conman by the name of Abraham.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  39. “Hegemon oracles such as the perennial Henry Kissinger…”

    Is that old satyr still alive and kicking? Amazing! Nixon and co are dropping like flies except the devil himself.

  40. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Ultrafart the Brave

    Bottom line, it’s probably all in the eye of the beholder. If you’re a true believer, then it’s a “religion”. If you have neither belief in a religious species nor respect for its adherents, then it’s a “cult”.

    Yep.

  41. Marckus says:

    The people tearing down statues and being “woke” at every little thing seem to wander about and flop around in a state of perpetual confusion. They have no guiding principles or the hand of righteousness to steady them. They are hollow ! Every waking hour of their lives is consumed with all this nonsense.

    They want to smash everything without really knowing why. They are happiest when all is ruin and then look around in dismay at what they have done and what they will now have to live with. This fills their emptiness because there is nothing else to do so. Folks like this burn out either destroyed by others, frequently destroying themselves, first the soul, then the body. What kind of a jackass torches his own neighbourhood, in effect shits in his soup bowl ?

    The woke and cancel culture do ! It must be fun for them but after the laughter comes those tears.

    • Replies: @HONCHO49
  42. Mefobills says:
    @animalogic

    the future & anything which could possibly hinder the progress of the 600 odd (multi-billionaire) families who RULE this planet.

    How did it happen? What is the systemic underlying reason? What concentrates wealth and polarizes society?

    It happens in a ratcheting way, typically during conversion of debt claims. Capital is over labor, and then extracts from labor in various ways, but most especially during conversions.

    For example, during the 2008 housing crises in the U.S., the banks were made whole, and then the housing debtors were ejected onto the streets. The now empty houses were bought up by hedge funds backed up by the banks, and then said houses were turned into a rental stream.

    There were even more faulty conversions that lead up to this terrible state of affairs, such as tranching of Mortgage Backed Securities, which also were paid at face value with QE, thus preserving the primacy of “capital” of the owners.

    Pepe traces the fall of Rome to property transfer from the Temples to the Catholic Church in the early 5’th century: that would be a “conversion” process.

    I put the fall of Rome process at 218BC at the second Punic War. An oligarchy was formed in Rome when the money was converted from bronze disks (basically paper money of the day) to precious metals. The rich were given a deal, turn in your jewelry to be melted down, and in payback, we will let you make the things the military needs, to then make gains. It was the first military industrial complex, where special favors were granted. Also, Rome now had to move East to the Bosporus to become “oriental/middle eastern” because her money was now similar to Jerusalem.

    Hudson has come to the same conclusion, only he follows the build up of Debt Claims and conversion/enclosure of the land to Latifundia.

    https://michael-hudson.com/2018/11/everything-you-thought-you-knew-about-western-civilization-is-wrong/

    After that war the small farmers of Italy never recovered their land, which was systematically swallowed up by the prædia (note the etymological connection with predatory), the latifundia, the great oligarchic estates: latifundia perdidere Italiam (“the great estates destroyed Italy”), as Pliny the Elder observed. But among modern scholars, as Hudson points out, “Arnold Toynbee is almost alone in emphasizing the role of debt in concentrating Roman wealth and property ownership” (p. xviii) — and thus in explaining the decline of the Roman Empire.

    The West has failure built-in. The failure to understand money and bring it into control. The failure of linear thinking rather than cyclical:

    Contrast the Greeks and Romans: “Classical Antiquity,” Hudson writes, “replaced the cyclical idea of time and social renewal with that of linear time. Economic polarization became irreversible, not merely temporary” (p. xxv). In other words: “The idea of linear progress, in the form of irreversible debt and property transfers, has replaced the Bronze Age tradition of cyclical renewal” (p. 7).

    The renewal of Western Civilization does have low hanging fruit that can be picked. That low hanging fruit is the restoration of original Christianity, not what passes as false religion today i.e. judeo-christianity, which in turn is a “creditor religion” of the Pharisees. Any Christian reading this should take heed.

    Nowhere, Hudson shows, is it more evident that we are blinded by a deracinated, by a decontextualized understanding of our history than in our ignorance of the career of Jesus. Hence the title of the book: And Forgive Them Their Debts and the cover illustration of Jesus flogging the moneylenders — the creditors who do not forgive debts — in the Temple. For centuries English-speakers have recited the Lord’s Prayer with the assumption that they were merely asking for the forgiveness of their trespasses, their theological sins: “… and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us….” is the translation presented in the Revised Standard Version of the Bible. What is lost in translation is the fact that Jesus came “to preach the gospel to the poor … to preach the acceptable Year of the Lord”: He came, that is, to proclaim a Jubilee Year, a restoration of deror for debtors: He came to institute a Clean Slate Amnesty (which is what Hebrew דְּרוֹר connotes in this context).

    It is quite possible to have balanced civilizations that lasts for thousands of years; however it is impossible in the West, since the west is based on faulty assumptions about reality.

  43. As it stands, it’s fair to argue when the “West” started to go seriously wrong – in a cancel culture sense. Allow me to offer the Cynic/Stoic point of view of a 21st century global nomad.

    Hahahha

    The lament of the Non-Christian.

    Ezechiel in chapters 29-32 foretold the destruction of Egypt long before it happened even as the destruction of Rome (the last of the four empires preceding Christ) was prophesied.

    Ol’ Pepe seems perplexed as to why that happened (St Augustine’s City of God could teach him) and I can understand that as he is not a believer and so is ignorant how it is that God uses others to accomplish His ends

    Pepe is headed for an eternity of punishing perplexity unless he repents while there is still time

    • LOL: Alfred
  44. @BorisMay

    prove your ridiculous false charge that Catholics worship statutes.

    St Augustine faced down that same stupidity in City off God.

    Go ON…Prove…cite from any Roman Missal that us Catholics worship Mary or anyone else other than God.

  45. So what’s your alternative?
    DaLimbraw Library has archived many essays by this author and I greatly respect his expertise in those analyses, but ‘every man has his limitations ‘. When he confuses Christianity with Churchianity, it has become his ‘limitation’.
    The following clips are copied from DaLimbraw Library and intended only for those rare birds who dig deeper than the average opinion dispenser:

    “Until you accept the fact that there is a persistent and material evil that operates in systematic and ritualistic patterns that you can not only discern, but even recognize throughout history, you will never have any idea what is going on around you, why things happened, or what is going to happen next. This is why smart, honest, non-Christian observers so reliably fail in their analyses.” – Vox Day – https://crushlimbraw.blogspot.com/2021/05/vox-popoli-its-real-it-was-always-real.html?m=0

    “I look around the United States today. There are clearly some places where the lack of a Christian ethic has taken full root; last summer offered dozens of examples in dozens of cities around the country.
    For all the critics of Christianity, this is your future if you win the day. It is the society you will leave to your children and grandchildren.” – bionic mosquito – https://crushlimbraw.blogspot.com/2021/04/bionic-mosquito-whats-your-alternative.html?m=0

    “One more thing – learning takes time – and it comes incrementally in fits and spurts. The most important part is desire and intellectual curiosity – in order to overcome wrong presuppositions and binary thinking – and have I come to understand that factor in me and others!

    We all tend to jump on a new horse of epiphany which we will ride right into the next trap set for us by our adversary Old Scratch.

    What’s my point?

    I learned over 5 years ago when I started my website and DaLimbraw Library that very few people had the capability to coherently explain how Government/Religion/Politics/Culture play an interactive role in our lives – ALL of them. Vox Day is one of the few who can address ALL of these and intertwine them into a coherent vision if you’re willing to look.” – https://crushlimbraw.blogspot.com/2020/12/crush-notes-and-connecting-dots-list.html?m=0

    “What I find curious is that the writings of many of the authors I often cite have very insightful observations – and then stop investigating further as if there was nothing further to discover! Why?” – https://crushlimbraw.blogspot.com/2020/11/are-we-governed-by-humans.html?m=0

  46. @Rev. Spooner

    Christianity has retarded human progress since it’s inception and it will do so until the end. So will Islam, Judaism, Brahmanism and all these cults.

    The atheist wisely stops here, with no proposal on what should replace them.

    The two modern examples of making the State god resulted in mass murder.

    • Agree: Bubba
  47. The prophecy of four succeeding Empires prior to The Incarnation – Babylonians, Medes & Persian, Greek, and finally the Roman empire – and the stone that detaches itself and destroys the statue is the Empire of Jesus Christ The King, that King to which Ol’ Pepe will neither recognise. nor obey.

    Ol’ Pepe pines for paganism. C’est la vie.

    http://www.drbo.org/chapter/32002.htm

  48. Bert says:
    @Mefobills

    The Thirty Tyrants

    The deal that the American elite chose to make with China has a precedent in the history of Athens and Sparta

    BY LEE SMITH

    https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/the-thirty-tyrants

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  49. @BorisMay

    “Christianity has always been pagan because paganism is the worship of statues and images.”

    You’re confusing paganism and idolatry the latter of which matches your definition here. Paganism refers to rural religion, i.e., the polytheism still be practiced in the hinterland when the with-it folks in the cities had move on to Christianity.

    But even idolatry is a term mostly misapplied. Christianity has physical images but does not worship them. They simply represent the things that Christians are worshipping. That’s true of most polytheism too.

    The ultimate problem for Judaism and Islam, and even Christianity, with idols is not that people were worshipping them, but that the gods they were worshipping, symbolized by the idols, were not the true God and that trying to represent God with something physical, and therefore limiting, was impossible and therefore wrong.

  50. MLK says:

    That’s at the heart of a make-or-break saga: Nord Stream 2.

    No one more than this author knows the saga of Nord Stream (1 and 2) better than this author. Yet he’s now sheepish on how it is that the root-in-tootinest anti-Russia claques gifted both to Russia and Germany.

    I say “gifted” but I really mean that the bargain didn’t include anything by way of the US national interest. Anything but, whether money into the Clinton and other foundations (Nord Stream 1) and participation/acquiescence in operation Get Rid Of Trump (Nord Stream 2).

    Indeed, this saga makes plain for those with difficulty to see why Trump had to go. It just wouldn’t do to have a real POTUS horse-trading to the benefit of the US, it’s citizenry and domestic industry. Worse, he was open about it.

    Now that the American “Yeltsin” is installed, the payoffs to foreign powers are coming fast and furious. Though not fast enough that the American people are treated to a double-down version of the anti-Russia routine.

  51. “So the Council on Foreign Relations – in a sort of Bismarckian hangover – is now proposing a New Concert of Powers…”

    Metternichian hangover.

    Not one of Pepe’s best pieces. Everything bad in the West can be attributed to Christianity?

    The western empire began its decline no later than the early 3rd century–while Christianity was still mostly despised–with a limited resurgence before the final descent in the late 5th. The advent of the dominate–a more overtly authoritarian form of governance than the preceding principate–kicked in the late 3rd century when Rome seemed about to fall right then.

    The eastern empire–a Christian one–lasted for a millennium–more or less. And the claim that the one incident with Hypatia marks the end of philosophy and science in Byzantium doesn’t stand up.

    If non-Christian civilization was so dynamic, intellectually brilliant, etc, then what explains the perceived need to adopt Christianity as a state religion. Empires and states that are in good shape don’t need to grasp at any straw in reach to prop themselves up.

    • Replies: @Alfred
  52. Cancel culture? What is cancel culture?
    Cancel culture is only another stupid new name for dictatorship. Democracy is also another stupid name for dictatorship. The only difference between democracy and dictatorship is that in democracy people have a chance to chose their dictators. If you follow what is happening now in US, Media dogs are furiously attacking not only Republicans, they are attacking and destroying anybody any person who dares to open his/hers mouth and oppose them.
    No respect and no reason. If this is not dictatorship than what is dictatorship? Even in not hidden dictatorships. there is a government, and there is a group of advisors that do advise the dictator.
    So what is really difference between Dictatorship and democracy. Zero; absolutely nothing.
    …………………………………………………………………….
    And anyway. Jews own the purse (finance) and the public opinion (the media).
    So can you invent a better system than so called democracy? I really doubt it!!!!
    Jews are not doing every time evil deeds, sometime they do some good. But Jewish God now is superior to Christian God.

  53. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Old and Grumpy

    Modern pagans seem like offshoots of hippies.

    The modern revivals (or imitations or whatever you want to call them) of paganism had their beginnings in the late Victorian era. It was an era of intense interest in the occult and an era in which a lot of people in western Europe were looking for alternatives to Christianity. Lots of interest in alternative spiritualities, ritual magick, eastern mysticism, European esoteric doctrines like Hermeticism, things like Theosophy. It was the era of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, and there was a revival of Rosicrucianism. Wicca started to become a big thing in the 50s but it also has its roots in the late 19th century.

    All these things were starting to happen 60 years before the hippies appeared on the scene. These developments also started long before the late 1950s counter-culturalists (like the Beats) started to get interested in them.

    It was already clear to many people in the late 19th century that it would be desirable to find an alternative to Christianity.

    It would however be true to say that the hippies trivialised and cheapened something that had some actual potential. The hippies weren’t entirely wrong in taking an interest in such things but they weren’t exactly disciplined and rigorous about it.

  54. @Rev. Spooner

    To those offensive cults, let me add another, only a few months over one year old, and, at present, more pernicious: the CULT of COVID!

  55. AReply says:

    Every good conservative knows that the proper use of government power is to cancel your political enemies

    Trump ban: Republicans threaten to break up Facebook after Oversight Board decision
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-ban-conservatives-facebook-break-up-big-tech.amp

    Democrats are terrifying oppressive Cancel monsters for standing up for themselves. Republicans are brave freedom fighters as they fire bazookas from inside entrenched, powerful political enclaves out at the surrounding world to protect themselves from accountability to history.

    As Mitch McConnell says ‘1619 can’t be right because it makes us seem like bad guys’ KABLOOM! (Bazookas firing)

    The new Trump communication platform, fighting the good fight against Silicon Valley’s cancel propeller heads… A blog:

    Yes, he really did it. He attacked this problem with all the moxy and fire and savvy that a great Republican can bring to bear (many thanks to Michelle Malkin for the great WordPress theme hints!)

    Donald Trump Is “Tweeting” Again (on His Sad, Sad Knockoff Platform)
    https://slate.com/technology/2021/05/donald-trump-social-media-desk-twitter-facebook-lol.html

    The only link not listed in Google results for Trump’s social media communications platform is … Trump’s social media communications platform

    Doh! Cancelled again!

    I’m really missing that guy… And go Conservatives

    BTW—Now is a really good time for internet savvy libertarians to calvary on in and give the GOP a little nudge. Maybe help un-cancel a few things, like white pride! MOONSHOT, baby! We can do it!

  56. AReply says:

    Can We Do Better Than Deplatforming? An Interesting Proposal
    https://warzel.substack.com/p/can-we-do-better-than-deplatforming

    Infowars Cinematic Universe of Conspiracies

  57. Mefobills says:
    @Bert

    Interesting article about the thirty tyrants.

    It would be a fun, yet exhausting, exercise to go through through the article, and apply (((triple parenthesis))) to all of the American actors who have sold out the country. Are they really American, based on their behavior, or are they “internationalists” only interested in their own self-aggrandizement?

    With regards to not understanding money, that is also the case with Sparta, who in 412 BC borrowed 5,000 Talents from Persia to build warships. The loan was at standard rates of 33 1/3%.

    But, there was not enough gold in Sparta to repay the Persians after building out the fleet.

    The Spartans borrowed gold to go to war, and in 405 B.C. Lysander of Sparta used his ships to destroy the whole Athenian fleet, which was attacked while said Athenian fleet was drawn up on the beach.

    This event made Sparta the big dog in Greece, all on borrowed money (Talents from Persia).

    Sparta probably used ALL of the 5000 talents to build her fleet. This is analogous to our (((Friends))) shipping entire industries from America to China to then monetize Chinese labor while simultaneously selling off American Patrimony.

    At standard rates of interest of the day = 33 1/3%:

    5000 borrowed in first year is 6,666.65 owed in second year. Second year = 8,888.84, Third year = 11,851.79… by seventh year 37,457.51 Talents. Of course, there is not enough gold to pay back the loan, it is a physical impossibility. The “creditor” is making usurious demands of the debtor.

    After Sparta conquered Athens, Sparta’s debts to Persia were transferred. The debt hook was shoved into the mouths of Athenian people.

    Christianity does have injunctions in place: “Though shalt not lend upon usury to thy brother.” Deu 23:19

    Going into debts are forbidden: Owe no man anything but to love another. Rom. 13:8

    And: The borrower is the servant to the lender. Prov. 22:7

    Trying to sort out what is usury or not, can be complicated, as it is not just “interest” on a loan. It is more of a power relation, where one party is taking unearned income from another. Sparta had a power relation over Athens, and transferred debts. A small cadre of Spartan Oligarchs emerged debt free, while Athenians citizens became debt burdened. For a time Athens could pay the loan to Persia, until Greece conquered Persia.

    In 336 B.C. Alexander discovered the Greek Treasury was empty. (Persia had Gold she had won in wars against Babylon and what was transferred from Athens.) Alexander is forced to invade Persia.

    Today’s Oligarchs are creditors, who have a power relation over debt burdened goyim.

    The debt solution, to then rebalance civilization, has always been conquest, either internal or external. In the years preceding Jews being kicked out of England, there was “Jewish lightening” in reverse. Jewish homes were burned (internal conquest), because that is where the debt instruments were housed.

    Oligarchs have never given up their sordid gains willingly.

  58. @Mancubus

    Agree.

    The specter of Automation in manufacturing is one of the great (and most useful) canards utilized by the neoliberals today.

    You see the looming threat of automation plastered a lot all over zerohedge, a libertarian (read: faux working-class outlet). They bring it out anytime a politician gets the cajones to bring up mininum wage increase, for the fact that it hasn’t even been close to matching inflation over the decades.

    The examples include consistent threats by amazon that workplace organizing will just incentivize more outsourcing and automation. Then why would Bezos spend so much energy in disrupting this organization if it were no threat? Indeed, with China’s increasing standard of living, it seems ever more likely that labor costs abroad will continue their upswing pulling to within parity of domestic labor costs where it then becomes a wash as to the absolute need for outsourced labor. Bezos is trying to stave off any type of working-class organization or awareness of the imminent threat that neoliberal companies such as his pose to our nation.

    Another example that I have seen put forth at zerohedge is the mason-replacing brick wall machine, whereby the machine still needs humans to feed it bricks (lol) and where any type of craftsmanship (differing patterns, edgework, corner-work, change-in-pitch) is sacrificed for a blank, no-frills edifice. Seems soul-gougingly Brutalist to me.

    I am a landscaper by trade and you should see everything pertaining to knowledge of my trade that I have picked up over the years. I am tooting my own horn, but so what? We need to realize and celebrate how amazing knowledge of trades and craftsmanship truly is. Machines don’t stand a bleeding chance at replicating this.

    And don’t even get me started on a discussion of “A.I.”! Lol.

  59. Dumbo says:

    Strange comparison.

    “Cancel culture” is exactly the opposite that the author says, it’s the removal from the public discourse of all that is traditional, white, Christian.

    (Neo-)Paganism appears to be a-OK, see for instance the worship of Gaia.

    Christianity didn’t “cancel” paganism, it assimilated it. If you don’t believe it, just look at any Christian holiday, with its inclusion of both pagan and Christian symbols and Santa Claus and Easter Bunny. There might have been excesses here and there, but destruction of Baminya’s Buddha’s it wasn’t. Or we wouldn’t even have a lot of ancient Greek and Roman temples still standing.

    As for Hypatia, the story is much more complicated than that and is more related to politics than to religion. She was not murdered for being a pagan or even a philosopher/mathematician, but probably for having the wrong friends in a complicated time.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  60. The hippies did cheapen it. That was the plan. They gaslight the whole thing, made them look like drugged idiots.
    ‘Look within? Why would you want to look within? I know a guy, his cousin went to Haight, did Acid and jumped off a building. Trust me. You don’t want to look within’.
    All the pop stars were from military families or from super wealthy families. The whole Laurel Canyon scene. They poured acid and weed then cocaine. The progression: contemplate life, do dope, end up screwed up or dead.
    I mean, how much of a head trip was that? They in essence dropped a drug bomb on the whole society, made a ton of $ AND terrify the Average America from looking inside. Just pray to Jesus, pay your taxes or you will end up a coke fiend like John Holmes dying of Aids.
    I’m laying it on thick to make my point.
    Now, 3000 years ago or more the ancient Hindus noticed that once all material needs were met that people, rather than feel happy, often experienced anxiety or an inner sense of disquiet. They developed meditation techniques to deal with this new problem.
    Eventually, around 2600 years ago, Buddha showed up to give more advanced lessons. The rest is history.

  61. @Baxter

    “ Modern Paganism isn’t like that of the Greek philosophers, however. Their Paganism sought truth and nobility, insofar as it could in the absence of revealed truth (that held by the Church) and is probably the highest Paganism can go. Modern Paganism worships perversion-our modern art, architecture, music, dress and sex-relations are throughly corrupted by it.”

    Thanks for an insightful and deep observation. One Greek scholar once told me that for highly educated Greeks, Socrates is at par with Jesus Christ. Looking at the nihilist art at Guggenheim museum, it is no wonder that most of the sponsors of such monstrosity are the oligarchs led by the Rockefeller family.

  62. Alfred says:
    @Oscar Peterson

    The western empire began its decline no later than the early 3rd century–while Christianity was still mostly despised–with a limited resurgence before the final descent in the late 5th.

    Christianity was a symptom – not a cause of the collapse.

    It was all about a cooling climate, shorter growing-seasons, smaller crops, hunger and inability to pay the taxes. This led to the peasants abandoning the land and moving to Rome. At the same time, China also went into decline – due to the cooling climate.

    Currently, we are moving into a cooling phase. It will last until 2050. Fasten your seatbelts!

    The Roman Empire is considered to have peaked with the reign of Marcus Aureleus in 180 AD. That is where we draw the line for the beginning of the decline and fall of Rome. That is certainly the peak in the population of Rome itself. When the climate began to turn down, back into a strong cooling period, the fortunes of Rome also turned down. The evidence suggests that the Great Monetary collapse of Rome (around 180–290 AD), coincided with a sharp period of cooling. This seriously affected the northwestern provinces of the empire, especially in Germany and France, which clearly instigated the barbarian invasions of the south. We also have tree-rings dating (dendrochronology) from this period, which indicates there was a severe drought that began about 338 AD and persisted until 377 AD. This contributed to moving the capitol to Constantinople, which construction began about 324 AD when Constantine became the sole ruler.

    The climate changed much colder in the north and sent the invasion of the Huns. The migration of the Huns, north of the Black Sea, drove the Goths to flee and press into the Roman Empire. The Roman Emperor Claudius II Gothicus (268-270 AD) was given that title for his defeat of the Goths. Climate change was a major driving force that led to the fall of the Western portion of the Roman Empire with the last Roman Emperor Romulus Augustus (475-476 AD). In the Eastern Roman Empire, climate change resulted in a regional prolonged drought from about 400—540 AD.

    The History of Climate Change — Empires Fall When Warming Turns to Cooling | Armstrong Economics

    • Thanks: Unpersoned by fb
    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  63. hillaire says:
    @MarkU

    Lets us face facts, carthage and its phoenician culture had earned Roman ire…. mainly due to the immolation sacrifice of children to their devil god ‘molech’…

    Of course it may have been milked for propaganda purposes, and there were geo-political considerations as always, but many carthaginians held high state in Rome and would eventually seed a dynasty even if an ignominious one.. (some things never change heh).

    So one really has to admire the gusto and sheer efficiency with which the old Romans obliterated old carthage and then salted the earth…. exceptional even by often brutal Roman standards and by which a profound animosity to all things ‘phoenician’ ahem, is underscored..

    the earth is still salty to this day..

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  64. ValMond says:
    @Rev. Spooner

    “Human progress” – that’s quite a cult of its own, isn’t it? But what does it mean?

  65. Mefobills says:
    @Mancubus

    A layman might marvel at the technologies while taking a tour of the factory, but upon closer inspection, the returns are greatly diminished in the last two decades. Advances have afforded greater precision, cheaper technologies, but the only reason China is a giant of manufacturing is because labor is cheap. They automate less than Western factories, not more, because humans cost next to nothing, but machines are expensive.

    There’s a lot to deconvolute in your statement above.

    Berlin wall falls 1990. Bill Clinton, traitor, gives China quasi MFN status in 1993.

    https://china.usc.edu/statement-president-clinton-most-favored-nation-status-china-1993

    __________

    Statement by the President On Most Favored Nation Status for China

    Yesterday the American people won a tremendous victory as a majority of the House of Representatives joined me in adopting our plan to revitalize America’s economic future

    _____________

    Wall Street then begins to export jobs, to then take wage arbitrage on Chinese labor. The transplanted factories make goods as prices, and then export said goods back to the U.S. (and West) and the China price, made with cheap labor, and of course low automation.

    Unbeknownst to our wall street (((friends))) the Tianaman Square Incident 1989 galvanized Chinese leadership, and convinced them to keep their State banks.

    The China/Wall Street Gambit has many moving parts. In the first instance it was China using state power to sweep old communist era debts into the trash can, to then appease Western Finance, to then allow Clinton’s MFN status to go forth.

    After status change, then Wall Street started green mailing American Industry to China to then get wage arbitrage. Low cost Chinese labor was part of the calculus.

    Part of the gambit thought was State Banks also simultaneously injecting state credit to acquire Chinese home-grown industry. This was done with various sneaky tactics on the Chinese part. It also included mimicking what Japan and the Tiger economies had done previously. These tactics were easy to implement, because the west is brainwashed with finance capitalism, and thinks that only prices matter.

    In the now latter stages of China/Wall Street Gambit, China is injecting state credit into home grown industry. China is then following the Industrial Capitalism template (which U.S. used to have), which RAISES WAGE LEVELS while simultaneously improving factory conditions and increasing automation.

    In other words, as time marches forward, China’s factories are becoming more automated, while the Chinese workforce becomes increasingly sophisticated, and climbs up the technological curve.

    Are there still swaths of the Chinese economy that are coolie labor? Yes.

    China now has the ability to launch heavy rockets and put space stations into orbit.

    Saying otherwise is whistling past the graveyard, and is turning a blind eye to reality.

  66. @Cowboy

    Good analysis and response. Clear, concise and pithy.

  67. @Mefobills

    Trying to sort out what is usury or not, can be complicated, as it is not just “interest” on a loan. It is more of a power relation, where one party is taking unearned income from another.

    This necessary distinction and the elaboration in your comment history is one of the foundationally unique educations you have porvided for which mankind will long be grateful.

    Delightfully understated flow into explosive last word:

    Today’s Oligarchs are creditors, who have a power relation over debt burdened goyim.

    • Thanks: Mefobills
  68. @Finland goyim

    Even if this crap is true-so what? Putin is a good guy, opposing Absolute Evil. I don’t care if he is a Swedenborgian, just so long as he opposes fascists.

  69. @Alfred

    2020 tied with 2016 as the hottest year on record, and the last six have been the hottest six ever recorded. You’re just making an even bigger fool, or worse, of yourself, Alfie. What’s it all about? Hatred of future generations? Inadequate schooling? Groupthink? Who cares?

    • Troll: Unpersoned by fb
    • Replies: @obwandiyag
    , @Alfred
  70. @Mancubus

    Truly nassty, racist, pig ignorant, imbecility. The type of Western supremacist thug who thinks that Chinese are racially inferior and still pull rickshaws, and who are driving us to war.

  71. @hillaire

    Despite all the fine structures they built the Romans were savages:

    https://www.livescience.com/53615-horrors-of-the-colosseum.html

    • Agree: Druid55
    • Replies: @dfordoom
    , @hillaire
  72. @Mefobills

    Luke 4.

    Exactly why the oral Talmudic tradition Jews in less than one minute on the egg timer went from so approvingly pleased and proud of him as one of their own after he rolled up the scroll, handed it to the attendant then sat down to say “Today this scripture is fulfilled in your hearing” to attempting his murder when he continued by saying they must forgive the usurious debts they’d imposed on the out-group, not just the interest-free credit they’d extended to (((each other))).

  73. Some of you guys, as with Escobar, are starting to get with the program.

    The whole point of this culture woke war is not people believing in it. Whether they believe in it or oppose it is moot. What matters is that many people believe in it, many oppose it, and many cry a pox on both their houses.

    Thus, “atomizing” the masses. Thus setting everybody at everybody else’s throats. Thus dividing and conquering. Thus kiboshing any and all hopes for unionization or or amelioration of the plight of the working class or any kind of solidarity or united action at-tall.

    Thus, any time you blab about identity, wokitude, racism, anti-racism, transes, femonatses, name the identiy, any time you blab about them, you are doing the masters’ bidding. That’s what they want you to do. Fight with each other about meaningless crap.

    The truth, in the case of wokeness as in almost all others, does not matter. It’s how both “sides” are manipulated into remaining forever “sides” and ostracized forever from ever being one.

  74. @Mefobills

    Knowledge born of real time experience is always so potently evident and pricelessly beneficial to the people among whom the striving venturer arose.

    This particular insight rings of awesome truth

    Unbeknownst to our wall street (((friends))) the Tianaman Square Incident 1989 galvanized Chinese leadership, and convinced them to keep their State banks.

    even before the its echo brings the query ‘was the (((CIA))) doing transnational subversion that aggressively back then.’

  75. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    No. He showed you a graph in which several earlier warming periods, the Minoan, Roman, and Medieval, exhibit higher temperatures than today. Maybe he’s wrong, maybe’s he’s right. But name-calling will get you nowhere.

    In order to refute him, you must show absolute evidence of precisely this: that temperatures recently have often and consistently gone significantly above the Minoan, Roman, and Medieval high points.

    PS: A blizzard of graphs and charts and argumentation will just obfuscate. As Taleb says, people who blizzard you with a million graphs and charts are usually wrong and moreover trying to hide something. The truth should be something capable of being clearly and succinctly stated and supported.

    • Agree: dfordoom
    • Thanks: Alfred
  76. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Dumbo

    “Cancel culture” is exactly the opposite that the author says, it’s the removal from the public discourse of all that is traditional, white, Christian.

    Yeah, but the point he was trying to make is that Cancel Culture is as old as civilisation. Every political, ideological or religious group that gains power will try to cancel its enemies.

    Nearly three-and-a-half thousand years ago the Pharaoh Akhenaten tried to push monotheism. He lost the ideological struggle and he and his supporters got cancelled. After his death his name could not even be mentioned. It was very Orwellian.

    The author was also trying to point out that historically Christians have been perfectly happy to practise Cancel Culture whenever they’ve been able to get away with it. The Spanish Inquisition was Cancel Culture – the objective was to cancel Muslims and Jews. Not kill them (the Spanish Inquisition was responsible for surprisingly few executions), but cancel them. If you wanted to live in Spain and you weren’t Christian you either got expelled or you had to conform. If you were suspected of not conforming absolutely you got persecuted. It was pure Cancel Culture.

    And what about the HUAC hearings and the activities of Joe McCarthy in the US in the 50s. That was pure Cancel Culture.

    Cancel Culture is nothing new. Don’t get me wrong. I despise Wokeism and I despise the current Cancel Culture. But it is a bit amusing to hear Christians and right-wingers carrying on as if they’ve always been enthusiastic proponents of free speech and free thought when the truth is the exact opposite.

    • Replies: @UR2
  77. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Baxter

    Modern Paganism worships perversion-our modern art, architecture, music, dress and sex-relations are throughly corrupted by it. What great horror is next is anyone’s guess.

    That really is nonsense. I hate the ugly perverted nihilism of modernist art but to blame it on modern paganism is just bizarre. The ugliness, perversion and nihilism of modernist art is political in inspiration. It’s the face of neo-liberalism, not modern paganism.

    You seem to be using “paganism” in the way that liberals use “fascist” and right-wingers use “commie” – as catch-all terms for anyone or anything of which you disapprove. I think you’re also confusing atheism and paganism.

    I’m not a pagan and I think modern paganism is a bit silly but it’s pretty harmless. It may well be the least important thing we have to worry about today.

    Neo-liberalism is the enemy. Modern pagans are harmless and many of them probably intensely dislike neo-liberalism and nihilism.

    • Replies: @Baxter
  78. Great article by a very learned man oops person. Thank you Pepe.

  79. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Commentator Mike

    Despite all the fine structures they built the Romans were savages

    Yep. The ancient world as a whole was pretty barbaric. Come to think of it, most of human history has been pretty barbaric. But the Romans were particularly savage.

    Rome destroyed Carthage because Carthage was a geopolitical rival. Just as the United States is now attempting to destroy any and all geopolitical rivals. That’s how great powers operate. They don’t give a damn about morality or human rights.

    • Agree: Commentator Mike
    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  80. C.T. says: • Website
    @Franz

    Read a lot of excerpts from Catherine Nixey’s book here:

    https://chechar.wordpress.com/category/darkening-age-book/

    • Thanks: Franz
  81. Alfred says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    2020 tied with 2016 as the hottest year on record

    Where is your data? Making inane assertions and being rude merely proves that you have no case.

    Here is what the satellites are telling us – data that the Australian Bureau of Meteorology, the BBC , the Australian Broadcasting Corporation and others cannot manipulate and don’t want you to know.

    The “cooling trend” registered by NASA in the ‘upper’ atmosphere over the past few years has now finally permeated down the atmospheric layers and to the global ‘lower’ atmosphere (where us humans reside).

    “High above Earth’s surface, near the edge of space, our atmosphere is losing heat energy,” said NASA’s Martin Mlynczak, associate principal investigator for the SABER instrument onboard NASA’s TIMED satellite, back in 2018. “If current trends continue, it could soon set a Space Age record for cold”–which it did, in late-2018.

    Germany’s Coldest April since 1977 (Solar Minimum of Cycle 20), as even NASA researchers note a Cooling Planet

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  82. Smith says:

    A very look of modern media shows clearly that paganism culture triumphs against abrahamic desert, as we see the western Tolkien and the eastern samurai.

    Tbh, in the future, the only abrahamic part that will remain is probably Islam because they are true believers and their culture do make sense for the desert region.

  83. @Oscar Peterson

    Well, so much for the decorative figures on the Ark that God commanded the Israelites to build.

  84. God told His people to construct the Ark like this, thus, there is no prohibition against images

    http://www.drbo.org/chapter/02037.htm

  85. @Mefobills

    Thank you for such a considered reply.
    Debt is, indeed the key.
    Your “conversion” periods remind me of the now common “never let a good crisis go to waste ”
    Rome is a tricky one. Your point about the conclusion of the 2nd Punic War is important. That “wash up” led to the Gracchi — & years of internal political strife. It also cemented in Rome as an Imperial State. Imperialism is the other side of the “profit extractive” coin. Why? As Hudson often points out — debts rise far quicker than the capacity to pay them. Via Imperialism (ie the extraction of foreign surplus) a nation can try to keep its economy in balance — ie keep it’s Oligarchs from devouring everything to the point of systemic collapse.
    And yes, the US dollar — Imperialism in essence.

    • Agree: Mefobills
  86. @Mefobills

    Sorry, a small point I forgot.
    2nd Punic War — what was the core reason for the explosion of the great estates, the latifundia ? Why, 1000’s & 1000’s of Roman farmers had been absent from their farms for years & years — FIGHTING THE PUNIC ENEMY. In that time they died, or their poor families lost their land, unable to keep it going. Thank god the Oligarchs were there to buy it all up at rock bottom prices.
    And – excellent.!! slaves became very cheap indeed. That’s what you call a perfect spring day……….

    • Agree: Mefobills
  87. Baxter says:
    @dfordoom

    Everything is ultimately a matter of religion-include aesthetics. I use the term Pagan in a general way-man in his ‘natural’ state, that is, operating in the absence of divine revelation.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  88. hillaire says:
    @Commentator Mike

    You yanks seem to be following their lead quite well…. it’s a pity you wont leave anything of value behind..

    anyway, keep it up…

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  89. UR2 says:
    @dfordoom

    Endless confusion about the Spanish Inquisition: A Jew was allowed to live and practice his religion there as they were able to in most of Europe. The problem arose when they officially converted to Catholicism ( the only Christian religion at that point there), but were secretly practicing their origional religion. They perpetrated this fraud in order to aquire qualification to work in government, to gain social status, even to rule a Catholic country. Naturally, this fraud was considered dangerous, even treason. Here, the Inquisition was called in to determine if the conversion was genuine. They turned their results over to the government who proceeded according to the laws of the country. This is known as the Converso crisis. The Catholic Church never executed anybody and there were no such things as forced conversions. These long held lies should be put to rest among educated people.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  90. @Brás Cubas

    The US cannot ‘out-compete’ China. The aim is to destroy China, thus obviating any need to compete. When you look at the two countries, the differences, economic, technologically, socially and morally, are stark, and all to the Real Evil Empire’s detriment. All that the US has left is the petro-dollar, now an albatross save for its ability to implement vicious and murderous sanctions, the military apparatus and truly hubristic self-delusion. Forcing the other Western powers and the ‘honorary Whites’ of Japan, India and South Korea to join the lynch-mob just guarantees their eclipse, too.

    • Agree: dfordoom
    • Disagree: Brás Cubas
  91. @Alfred

    Sorry Alfie, but I live in the troposphere, not on the edge of space. The researchers explained how this upper atmospheric cooling, quite rapid, was caused by rising CO2 levels, just as they cause warming in the troposphere. Did you miss that, or did it not occur with your denialist cult theology? The solar minimum has something to do with it, as it does throughout its cycle. Still praying for a Maundering Minimum, are we? I see the ‘coldest’ April in Germany comes after decades of above average April temperatures, even with baseline creep. It’s cherry-picking, denialist canard number 33. Got a lot of ideological capital invested in this, haven’t you.

  92. @hillaire

    I don’t think I ever gave the impression that I am a Yank or that I support their policies but I get your point.

    • Replies: @hillaire
  93. @dfordoom

    Your projecting in true Orientalist fashion. It is Western Great Powers that must destroy. It’s in the DNA all the way back to the Book of Joshua, and beyond that to the first upright, uptight, ape that caved in another’s skull so that he could steal his female and kill his offspring. The Chinese wish to live in peace with others, harmony being their highest value, but the reptilian thugs in Thanatopolis DC understand only ‘dominance’.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  94. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Have you compared the recent German Aprils to the Aprils in the Medieval, Roman, or Minoan warming periods? I daresay not.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  95. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    You didn’t even read what he said.

    He said, expressly, that NASA says the cooling trend is now in the “troposphere,” a jargon word used to snow the common everyday person with legitimate grievances.

    “The “cooling trend” registered by NASA in the ‘upper’ atmosphere over the past few years has now finally permeated down the atmospheric layers and to the global ‘lower’ atmosphere (where us humans reside).

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  96. @obwandiyag

    Nope, obe. The cold in the northern hemisphere in the troposphere is due to climate destabilisation. The loss of the Arctic sea ice-cap, and the amplification of northern temperatures due to the loss of the albedo of the ice-cap, has caused a derangement of the jet-streams that has also disturbed the Arctic vortex, that used to keep cold in the Arctic and warmth out.
    No regular excursions of cold Arctic air to the south cause cold snaps in lower latitudes, and warm air penetrates north, leading to rain at the North Pole a few years ago, in winter. The permafrost is melting, causing CO2 and methane to be released as organic matter is digested by micro-organisms, and frozen methane is leaking from submarine clathrates. Alfie has no clue, but copies and pastes denialist disinfo without realising that is being had.

    • Replies: @Unpersoned by fb
  97. @obwandiyag

    No, but climate scientists have, and they reject those hoary denialist canards. The climate, globally, over the last few decades is UNAMBIGUOUSLY warmer than any of those earlier periods, and any at all for at least 800,000 years.

    • LOL: Unpersoned by fb
  98. Alfred says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    NASA did refer to cooling in the troposphere. But you have a religion and anyone who points out the incoherent garbage that you spew is an apostate. 🙂

    Here is some fraud from the James Cook University of Cairns and Townsville. I lived in Cairns 2019/20 and I am fully aware of their efforts to discredit serious researchers.

    The narrative that the Great Barrier Reef is dying is so obviously false. Yet the media in Australia kept on repeating this nonsense for many years.

    In January 2020, a group of seven scientists, led by fish physiologist Timothy Clark of Deakin University in Geelong, Australia, published a Nature paper reporting that in a massive, 3-year study, they didn’t see these dramatic effects of acidification on fish behavior at all.

    The Seven went further still, accusing Munday and Dixson of “methodological or analytical weaknesses” which might have led to irreproducible results (aka fraud).

    Whistleblowers Accuse 22 Climate Papers of Fraud: “She Made Up Data”

    In the real world, the mass of snow and ice worldwide is at a record level. Global snowfall has been increasing for 40 years.

    • Agree: Jazman
    • Troll: Mulga Mumblebrain
    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  99. hillaire says:
    @Commentator Mike

    It is irrelevant where any of us is from if we are denizens of the ‘west’…. we have all subscribed to the rancid immoral regime that runs the farm, and to be honest that isn’t the ‘american people’, whatever that is…

    However critiquing roman warrior culture seems somewhat pointless considering the sickening barbarity of anal democracy…

    I suppose it is merely a matter of scale and that perhaps would make a valid argument, and I suppose one could also argue that both systems have far more in common than differences, but In both case one would have to make distinctions regarding era, republics etc..

    Anyway, it seems that carthage and it’s ideas won the war on the long timeline, one could say we all live in babylonian carthage nowadays.. it’s no longer a city but a system.. (to be fair it always was)

    Of course there are parallels with Weimar/National Socialist Germany and its war with babylon, but that is another story for another ‘people’, currently most (but not all) narcoleptic imbeciles don’t elucidate ‘history’ they just suck on the tit of propaganda..

    unfortunately for these imbeciles such ignorance is suicidal and they will end up nailed to the wall in the ruins of their very own ‘carthage’…

    good day.

  100. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Baxter

    Everything is ultimately a matter of religion-include aesthetics. I use the term Pagan in a general way-man in his ‘natural’ state, that is, operating in the absence of divine revelation.

    OK, I understand. But I think it’s a confusing use of the term.

  101. dfordoom says: • Website
    @UR2

    The Catholic Church never executed anybody

    Not directly. But they did cause people to be executed.

    I do agree (as I think is obvious in my earlier comment) that the Spanish Inquisition was responsible for surprisingly few deaths.

    I wasn’t suggesting that the Spanish Inquisition was a bloodbath. But enforcing conformity is much the same as modern Cancel Culture. Modern Cancel Culture doesn’t execute people either. But it does enforce orthodoxy.

  102. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Your projecting in true Orientalist fashion. It is Western Great Powers that must destroy. It’s in the DNA all the way back to the Book of Joshua, and beyond that to the first upright, uptight, ape that caved in another’s skull so that he could steal his female and kill his offspring. The Chinese wish to live in peace with others, harmony being their highest value, but the reptilian thugs in Thanatopolis DC understand only ‘dominance’.

    I was mostly talking about Rome, which behaved much the same way the US behaves today. And not much differently from the way other European great powers behaved.

    Non-European powers seem to have had a mixed record.

    But I agree that China wants peace and the US wants war. And Australia wants war. There’s nothing more sad and deranged than a very minor power like Australia wanting war.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  103. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Two things, Mumblebrain:

    1. ” Nope, obe. The cold in the northern hemisphere in the troposphere is due to climate destabilisation. The loss of the Arctic sea ice-cap, and the amplification of northern temperatures due to the loss of the albedo of the ice-cap, has caused a derangement of the jet-streams that has also disturbed the Arctic vortex, that used to keep cold in the Arctic and warmth out.”

    Let me see ifI’ve got this straight. – The cold in the northern troposphere is due to destabalisation because the loss of the ice cap due to the amplification of temps due to the loss of the ice cap, has caused derangement of the jet stream which has caused disturbance of the vortex that used to keep the warmth out but now keeps the cold in?

    Are you suggesting that the artctic is colder now because it got warmer a few years ago and that warming has resulted current cooling?

    Gosh! It all sounds so very sciency and complicated.

    2. “No regular excursions of cold Arctic air to the south cause cold snaps in lower latitudes, and warm air penetrates north, leading to rain at the North Pole a few years ago, in winter. The permafrost is melting, causing CO2 and methane to be released as organic matter is digested by micro-organisms, and frozen methane is leaking from submarine clathrates. Alfie has no clue, but copies and pastes denialist disinfo without realising that is being had.”

    And this: That because cold air doesn’t move south regularly (??) the south experiences cold snaps causing warm air to travel north, causing rain some years ago, and that’s why it’s cooling now?
    That CO2 and methane, more than any other gases, are cause for concern?
    ————————————————————-

    Just one more question: It strikes me that you spend a significant amount of time commenting on this forum, with every comment section that I read containing copious numbers of comments by you. So my question is, have you nothing better/other to do with or time, making TUR a kind of hobbie-horse for you, OR are you being paid to fill this forum with your sciency-sounding assertions?

    • Troll: Mulga Mumblebrain
    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  104. @Unpersoned by fb

    It’s very simple. High school students handle it easily, but they have not had their minds perverted by Rightwing pathopsychological fanaticism. The denialist industry cunningly decided to paint the question as a Left (the environmentalists)versus Right (the Dunning-Krugerites)controversy, so every knuckle-scraping Rightwing thug will deny it all, even as the waters lap about their chins, or a megafire burns them to a crisp, or a ‘once in a thousand year flood’ flushes them out like turds around the S-bend. As for being here-I just LOATHE denialist Life-destroying scum. I can’t help it.

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  105. @dfordoom

    Austfailia has been pushed ever further Right since the CIA got rid of our one and only decent Prime Minister, Whitlam, in 1975. Central to the process were the influence of the Murdoch cancer, a Satanic brain-warping machine, and the treachery of the Labor Party Right, proto-Blairites who introduced neo-liberal capitalism and the leaders of which retired as millionaires. And now, the final farcical coup de grace-the country is run by a Pentecostal thug, our own bunyip Bolsonaro, Morrison, and the entire rabid ruling class is either barking for war against China, or shutting their gutless cowards’ mouths.

    • Agree: dfordoom
    • Replies: @dfordoom
  106. @Alfred

    Global precipitation, including snowfall, has increased as the hydrological cycle has been deranged by global climate destabilisation. As the planet warms, the atmosphere contains more water vapour (a positive feedback to increased warming and destabilisation)thus there are greater precipitation events, including snowfalls. Another own goal from the Dunning-Kruger camp. And the denial of the death of great swathes of the Great Barrier Reef, despite increasing bleaching incidents, the first known coming in 1998, is simply psychopathic. The films of the vast areas bleached white, some dead and covered in algae, are IRREFUTABLE. You are one sad, sick, puppy, just like all your kind. I hope you live long enough to face justice for your filthy, if inconsequential, work.

  107. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Austfailia has been pushed ever further Right since the CIA got rid of our one and only decent Prime Minister, Whitlam, in 1975.

    The Whitlam Government was the only Australian government ever to attempt to follow an independent foreign policy. Since that time all Australian governments have taken their orders from Washington.

    Central to the process were the influence of the Murdoch cancer, a Satanic brain-warping machine, and the treachery of the Labor Party Right, proto-Blairites who introduced neo-liberal capitalism and the leaders of which retired as millionaires.

    The overthrow of the Whitlam Government was the end of the line for the Australian Left.

    and the entire rabid ruling class is either barking for war against China, or shutting their gutless cowards’ mouths.

    Yep. I can remember the Cold War. There wasn’t anywhere near this level of hysteria.

  108. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    It’s very simple. High school students handle it easily, but they have not had their minds perverted by Rightwing pathopsychological fanaticism.

    No, but like myself prior to my awakening around 15 years ago, they have been systematically indoctrinated into a psuedoscientific/religious belief system which tollerate no heratics, prefering to lable any who denounce their religion as “denialists”, because that’s oh, so much easier than actually facing the facts of said indoctrination.

    You see, mumblebrain, even before the perjorative, “denier”, was used against those sceptical of “the settled science” of global warming theory, I was on your side of this argument. Though rather than trolling the internet for heratics I actually took action and became a member of the core group of my local Transition Towns network… until I began to actually research what those heratics were saying. Up until then I had only ever heard about the “reality” of ACC via the MSM and throughout my 5 years of university “education”.
    Not until I joind Transition Towns did I ever hear a single argument against the theory. And when I eventually did hear arguments against it I actually investigated and discovered the massive globalist agenda which you today atempt to”defend” by calling people names, and throwing out ridiculous assumptions regarding the political leanings of what you call “denialist life-destroying scum”.

    Seething anger and name-calling don’t make global warming theory real any more than globalist-funded “science” does.

    All of that aside for the moment, it was always my contention, both before and after my “awakening”, that what the world needed more than anything, and for many reasons, including climate change ™, was to be free of the corporatist/capitalist choke-hold, to deindustrialise and to depoliticise our social and economic structures.
    Sadly, the solutions offered by the billionaire globalist elites regarding global warming grant themselves unlimited power to continue to rape the planet whilst gaining absolute control over all human, plant and animal life.
    Every single time you label someone a “denier” for rejecting, doubting or even questioning global warming theory you take every single one of us that bit closer to the distopean hell that those elites have in store for us, including massive human depopulation. Thus, it is not I who fits the description of “life-destroying scum”, but you.

  109. HONCHO49 says:
    @Marckus

    The army does a great job teaching not to shit where you eat.

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