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“The risk-benefit calculus is therefore clear: the experimental vaccines are needless, ineffective and dangerous. Actors authorizing, coercing or administering experimental COVID-19 vaccination are exposing populations and patients to serious, unnecessary, and unjustified medical risks.” Doctors for Covid Ethics, April 29, 2021

An explosive new study by researchers at the prestigious Salk Institute casts doubt on the current crop of gene-based vaccines that may pose a grave risk to public health. The article, which is titled “The novel coronavirus’ spike protein plays additional key role in illness”, shows that SARS-CoV-2’s “distinctive ‘spike’ protein”..”damages cells, confirming COVID-19 as a primarily vascular disease.” While the paper focuses strictly on Covid-related issues, it unavoidably raises questions about the new vaccines that contain billions of spike proteins that could greatly increase the chances of severe illness or death. Here’s an excerpt from the article dated April 30, 2021:

“In the new study, the researchers created a “pseudovirus” that was surrounded by SARS-CoV-2 classic crown of spike proteins, but did not contain any actual virus. Exposure to this pseudovirus resulted in damage to the lungs and arteries of an animal model—proving that the spike protein alone was enough to cause disease. Tissue samples showed inflammation in endothelial cells lining the pulmonary artery walls. (Note– “Vascular endothelial cells line the entire circulatory system, from the heart to the smallest capillaries.”)

The team then replicated this process in the lab, exposing healthy endothelial cells (which line arteries) to the spike protein. They showed that the spike protein damaged the cells by binding ACE2. This binding disrupted ACE2’s molecular signaling to mitochondria (organelles that generate energy for cells), causing the mitochondria to become damaged and fragmented.

Previous studies have shown a similar effect when cells were exposed to the SARS-CoV-2 virus, but this is the first study to show that the damage occurs when cells are exposed to the spike protein on its own.” (“The novel coronavirus’ spike protein plays additional key role in illness”,

The new research paper is the equivalent of a hydrogen bomb. It changes everything by confirming what vaccine critics have been theorizing for months but were unable to prove.

Now there is solid evidence that:

  1. Covid-19 is primarily a disease of the vascular system (The vascular system, also called the circulatory system, is made up of the vessels that carry blood and lymph through the body.) and not the respiratory system.
  2. The main culprit is the spike protein. (Spike protein–“a glycoprotein that protrudes from the envelope of some viruses” Merriam-Webster “Like a key in a lock, these spike proteins fuse to receptors on the surface of cells, allowing the virus’s genetic code to invade the host cell, take over its machinery and replicate.” Bruce Lieberman)

Simply put, if Covid-19 is primarily a vascular disease and if the main instrument of physical damage is the spike protein, then why are we injecting people with billions of spike proteins?

Here’s how architect and author, Robin Monotti Graziadei, summed up these developments on you tube:

“So, we have been told for the last year, that the only role the spike protein was supposed to play was to enter the human cells. (But) It’s clear, that that is not what they do, (since) they give you illness, vascular illness. Vascular illness can have many manifestations. They can include sinus vein thrombosis, blood clots, bruising, and longer-term conditions. Do you think it’s a good idea to bypass the first (defenses) of your immune system, …and inject… trillions of spike proteins in your cells given the information that has just been released by the Salk Institute? Think about it….

Salk Institute researchers have told us –without any ambiguity– that the spike protein is a fundamental part of the Covid-19 disease. Yes, it’s true that the spike protein with the N-protein, will not replicate. However, trillions (of these proteins) induced by the vaccine injection have the capacity to create damage in your vascular system. This is what the study says and what has been published by an extremely important center for biological studies. This is not a conspiracy theory. I think, at this stage, there is enough information to consider whether we will be told the truth in the coming days, because such information should be on the cover of every newspaper and the top story on every news channel. And what they should say is this: “The fundamental and technological basis –on which all of the vaccines that were distributed in the West– is flawed. We thought that the spike protein would only enter the cells to create antibodies so if you faced the wild virus, it would not latch onto your cells, however, we were wrong. We were wrong because the spike protein in itself, creates disease, and if you inject trillions of them into a human body, there will be manifestations of disease in many cases.” It is not safe to inject trillions of spike proteins into a muscle, because it bypasses layers of your immune system which could have potentially neutralized the virus… By crossing the threshold of the human body through the injection of these compounds, you are not giving your immune system the chance to mount a strong enough response to the spike protein in order to neutralize it. (The vaccine) will have this disease-creating spike protein in it if you agree (to take) any of these vaccines. ….It is now up to us to try to fix the mistake they have made.” (Robin Monotti Graziadei on the new Salk Institute research paper, You Tube, –See it before it is removed)

Perfectly stated and right on the money. Graziadei extrapolates the hidden meaning of the Salk report and clarifies its significance. How are the public health officials, the politicians, the media and the rest of the pro-Covid Vaxx camp going to respond to these revelations especially with the imprimatur of the Salk Institute affixed to the front of the report? Will they try to sweep it under the rug or will they try to divert the public’s attention to the ‘variant’ hobgoblin? Or will they try something else entirely, like claim that one class of spike proteins are good for you while others lead to protracted illness and death? What will they do?

Doctor Vladimir Zelenko, who has been nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize for his use of hydroxychloroquine in the treatment of COVID-19 patients, had this to say: “Do you understand what this means——we are are injecting viral genetic code for the spike protein into innocent people andiIt gets into almost every cell In the body.” (Nobel nominee, Zelenko has also been banned from Twitter.)

Indeed, that’s precisely what they’ve done. And, let’s not forget, the vaccine manufacturers have complete legal immunity for the injuries they produce. Legal immunity means moral impunity.

So what effect will these spike proteins have on the people that have gotten vaccinated?

Here’s what the Doctors for Covid Ethics have to say in their latest article that was published just this week:

“The vaccines are dangerous to both healthy individuals and those with pre-existing chronic disease, for reasons such as the following: risk of lethal and non-lethal disruptions of blood clotting including bleeding disorders, thrombosis in the brain, stroke and heart attack; autoimmune and allergic reactions; antibody-dependent enhancement of disease; and vaccine impurities due to rushed manufacturing and unregulated production standards….

...all gene-based vaccines can be expected to cause blood clotting and bleeding disorders…. The vaccines are not safe.” (“COVID Vaccines: Necessity, Efficacy and Safety”, Doctors for Covid Ethics)

There it is in black and white: “The vaccines are not safe”. Here’s more from an article at Children’s Health Defense about Professor Yehuda Shoenfeld, the Israeli clinical immunologist who is widely credited as the “father of autoimmunity.” Shoenfeld approaches the issue from an entirely different angle. Take a look:

“Shoenfeld’s primary concern boils down to what’s called molecular mimicry. There are a number of genetic sequences that are identical both in the human genome and that of SARS-CoV-2 …

The immunologists go on to draw particular attention to the identical sequences in a specific group of proteins found deep in the lungs (the site of ARDS/covid pneumonia)… This is a concern Shoenfeld …

It’s why Shoenfeld and colleagues have been banging on the drum during the vaccine development phase last year, arguing that peptide sequences used in the new vaccines should be unique and not be common to ones found in the body.

For a predisposed individual, an adverse reaction to the vaccine, Shoenfeld and colleagues argue, could be enough for them to be tipped over the edge — into autoimmune disease. One of the most obvious signals for predisposition is to already have one of the over 100 autoimmune diseases that are charging through industrialized societies. Yet, with the father of autoimmunity sounding the warnings of autoimmune risks, there is scarcely a word of caution being uttered by governments rolling out the mass vaccination programs. Shame on them.” (“Are We on the Verge of a ‘Super-Epidemic’ of Autoimmune Diseases?” Children’s Health Defense)

My limited understanding of “molecular mimicry”, is this: By injecting proteins into the body that are so similar to the Covid proteins that are wreaking havoc in the vascular system, we could trigger a situation in which the body’s immune system attacks its own organs or vascular system. Which is why the author asks: Are We on the Verge of a ‘Super-Epidemic’ of Autoimmune Diseases?

In earlier articles, we presented the views of scientists and medical professionals who anticipated the issues that are now emerging in relation to the spike protein. For example, here is an excerpt from a piece about pediatric rheumatologist, Dr. J. Patrick Whelan, who said the following in a letter to the FDA:

“I am concerned about the possibility that the new vaccines aimed at creating immunity against the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein have the potential to cause microvascular injury to the brain, heart, liver and kidneys in a way that does not currently appear to be assessed in safety trials of these potential drugs….

“Before any of these vaccines are approved for widespread use in humans, it is important to assess in vaccinated subjects the effects of vaccination on the heart. As important as it is to quickly arrest the spread of the virus by immunizing the population, it would be vastly worse if hundreds of millions of people were to suffer long-lasting or even permanent damage to their brain or heart microvasculature as a result of failing to appreciate in the short-term an unintended effect of full-length spike protein-based vaccines on these other organs.” (“Scientists Challenge Health Officials on Vaccinating People Who Already Had COVID”, Global Research)

We also pointed out that “gene-based vaccines release a spike protein that spreads throughout the body, gets trapped in the bloodstream and collects in the layer of cells (endothelial cells) that coat the blood vessels.” We think the new research by the Salk Institute supports this general theory.

Also, according to Dr. Hyung Chun, a Yale cardiologist, the cells “release inflammatory cytokines that further exacerbate the body’s inflammatory response and lead to the formation of blood clots. Chun has stated: “The ‘inflamed’ endothelium likely contributes not only to worsening outcome in COVID-19, but also is considered to be an important factor contributing to risk of heart attacks and strokes.”

This seems to suggest that the spike protein from the vaccine can have the same effect as the spike protein from the infection. Here’s more:

“Individuals with COVID-19 experience a vast number of neurological symptoms, such as headaches, ataxia, impaired consciousness, hallucinations, stroke and cerebral hemorrhage. But autopsy studies have yet to find clear evidence of destructive viral invasion into patients’ brains, pushing researchers to consider alternative explanations of how SARS-CoV-2 causes neurological symptoms….

If not viral infection, what else could be causing injury to distant organs associated with COVID-19?

The most likely culprit that has been identified is the COVID-19 spike protein released from the outer shell of the virus into circulation. Research cited below has documented that the viral spike protein is able to initiate a cascade of events that triggers damage to distant organs in COVID-19 patients.

Worryingly, several studies have found that the spike proteins alone have the capacity to cause widespread injury throughout the body, without any evidence of virus.

What makes this finding so disturbing is that the COVID-19 mRNA vaccines manufactured by Moderna and Pfizer and currently being administered throughout the U.S. program our cells to manufacture this same coronavirus spike protein as a way to trigger our bodies to produce antibodies to the virus.” (“Could Spike Protein in Moderna, Pfizer Vaccines Cause Blood Clots, Brain Inflammation and Heart Attacks?” Global Research)

The above quote is key to grasping what Covid really is and why the new vaccines threaten to greatly exacerbate the problem. As Chun says:

“…autopsy studies have yet to find clear evidence of destructive viral invasion into patients’ brains, pushing researchers to consider alternative explanations of how SARS-CoV-2 causes neurological symptoms….”

This observation is correct. The research does not indicate “viral invasion into patients’ brains”.

Why? Because–as the Salk report indicates– it is not the viral infection that is getting into the brain but the spike protein that has passed the blood-brain barrier via the vascular system.

Here’s Dr Chun again: “What else could be causing injury to distant organs associated with COVID-19?”

Once again, it is not the virus but the spike protein and the autoimmune response.

Finally, Chun acknowledges that the new vaccines “program our cells to manufacture this same coronavirus spike protein as a way to trigger our bodies to produce antibodies to the virus.”

The production and distribution of these potentially-lethal injections goes way beyond mere recklessness. This is an unprecedented global catastrophe that could result in the deaths of millions. How long will this insanity continue?

• Category: Science • Tags: Anti-Vaxx, Conspiracy Theories, Vaccines 
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  1. Julia says:

    Goodbye human race

    • Replies: @Getaclue
    , @lysias
    , @IreneAthena
  2. Rob2021 says:

    “… the death of millions”. Is it not the objective of the program? One of the goals of the Great Reset is to reduce world population to 500 millions, if my memory is correct.

    There are two problems here: to demonstrate the true effects of this new form of “vaccine” (a trojan horse, really), and to stop the criminals in their track.

    While the scientific community is busy with the first, the criminals pursue their scheme, uninterrupted.

    • Agree: Ultrafart the Brave
    • Replies: @Nostradamus
  3. geokat62 says:

    Doctor Vladimir Zelenko, who has been nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize for his use of hydroxychloroquine in the treatment of COVID-19 patients…

    Peace Prize for a pharmaceutical treatment?

  4. As I’ve been saying, I’m no scientist. That being said, what do the mRNA vaccines have different from the other vaccine types in regards to the issue addressed by this article? Don’t they all have the spike protein in their formula?

    Take Coronavac, made by Chinese company Sinovac, for example. It is the inactivated virus type. But the inactivated virus obviously has the spike protein, doesn’t it? Let’s see what the below-linked article says:

    The researchers grew large stocks of the coronavirus in monkey kidney cells. Then they doused the viruses with a chemical called beta-propiolactone. The compound disabled the coronaviruses by bonding to their genes. The inactivated coronaviruses could no longer replicate. But their proteins, including spike, remained intact.

    How the Sinovac Vaccine Works

    I suppose the same goes for the viral vector type vaccines, doesn’t it? (British AstraZeneca and Russian Sputnik V belong in this category). They use an adenovirus to which they insert the spike protein’s DNA.

    How the Oxford-AstraZeneca Covid-19 Vaccine Works

    They even tested to see if it produced the spike protein, and confirmed it:

    Oxford-AstraZeneca COVID vaccine induces cell spikes similar to SARS-CoV-2’s

  5. Is Pandemic Information Being Censored?

    By Stephen J. Gray

    “The effective propagandist must be a master of the art of speech, of writing, of journalism, of the poster and of the leaflet. He must have the gift to use the major methods of influencing public opinion such as the press, film and radio to serve his ideas and goals, above all in an age of advancing technology.” Joseph Goebbles. Nazi propagandist.

    There are numerous reports of censorship by those that control the information systems.

    This so-called “pandemic” is just one example where governments and other information systems only allow the official view on what is happening. Is there a conspiracy by powerful segments of society to control the narrative?

    “…the government and its “stakeholders” in Big Pharma chose to focus on vaccines. At the same time, news organizations were recruited to present only one side of the vaccine story.

    “Mainstream outlets have agreed to not allow any news critical of the shots to reach the American people. This corrupt collusion falls under the Trusted News Initiative, a global collaboration signed onto by Big Tech social-media giants and many of its corrupt corporate media “partners.”

    “The partners signed onto the Trusted News Initiative to date are: Associated Press, AFP; BBC, CBC/Radio-Canada, European Broadcasting Union (EBU), Facebook, Financial Times, First Draft, Google/YouTube, The Hindu, Microsoft, Reuters, Reuters Institute for the Study of Journalism, Twitter, The Washington Post. The New York Times has also participated in the past.

    “Reporting facts related to the dark side of the experimental mRNA vaccines is considered “dangerous disinformation” by the globalist media elites behind the Trusted News Initiative.”

    [read full article at link below]

    There is obviously something big behind this pandemic, when powerful forces in the information industry appear to be banding together to control what can be said, and published. I believe there needs to be an investigation, especially as some media organizations in Canada are reportedly receiving taxpayers monies. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5]

    Stephen J. Gray

    May 3, 2021.







    Links of interest below:

    • Agree: Rubicon
  6. Thomasina says:

    Mike, last week I watched a video on SEPSIS. I thought to myself, “This is what is occurring in the bodies of the people who died or are dying from Covid or the vaccinations.”

    Watch this 10 minute video. It explains what happens when oxygen cannot get into the cells that line arteries and blood vessels, what happens to the cell walls, the inflammation that occurs. This is throughout your whole body. It destroys organs. Your blood pressure drops, your heart rate picks up to compensate, your breathing is labored as you are being starved of oxygen, urinary output decreases.

    I am a layperson. Perhaps someone in the know could comment on whether I’m right or not. Not everyone is going to react like this, but the elderly, the sick, those with auto-immune disorders could be susceptible.

  7. lloyd says: • Website

    Bill and Melinda Gates have just announced a divorce. They are partners in the Gates Foundation. This has been made shock global news like a Royal divorce. Is this a sign of a breaking in the ranks? A conscience got to the woman? She has been reading Mike Whitney and Whitney Webb? She should watch her back.

  8. Getaclue says:

    2/3’s or more will be dead by 2033….The human race will continue thereafter living in the Divine Will, all not so living will have been removed to their Eternal “rewards” — Stupid Satanists and Atheists believe there is no God — they will learn different by 2033 but, unfortunately not to the benefit of many of them who will be in Eternity down below. Here is a quick outline of where we are and what will happen in the next 7 years:

    • LOL: meamjojo
    • Troll: Mulga Mumblebrain
  9. Marvelous to say, Medium has suppressed the article from Doctors for Covid Ethics quoted at the start of “New Report Sheds Light on Vaccine Doomsday Cult.” Here, thanks to the good people at Archive.Today, is a link to that article:

  10. Notsofast says:

    now that it’s safe (and profitable) to come out of the closet, they’ll both announce that they are gay and their children are a product of genetic engineering.

    • LOL: Digital Samizdat
    • Replies: @animalogic
  11. When you add this information to the frantic campaign to push mRNA ‘vaccines’ and denigrate all others, and the equally vicious jihad against HCQ and ivermectin, you have prima facie evidence, I would say, of a plot to kill many, many, millions. Perhaps billions. My only quandary is whether this is the long anticipated elite drive to be rid of the ‘useless eaters’, or a plan to provide a casus belli for war against China, increasingly denounced by psychopaths like Pompeo and various Murdochite vermin, as ‘creating’ SARS CoV 2 as a bio-weapon, the usual combination of lies and projection.

    • Agree: Ultrafart the Brave
    • Replies: @street worm
  12. @Getaclue

    Why are so many so-called ‘Christians’ such viciously nassty thugs?

  13. @Stephen J. Gray

    ‘Trusted News Initiative’ from recidivist liars and totalitarian censors! Big Brother eat your heart out! The Ministry of Truth outdone.

    • Agree: MarkU
    • Replies: @Truth wins
  14. It really boggles my mind why anyone would want to get injected with this frankenstein’s brew. But millions do. Even some of the people I know and care about. They are completely unwilling to even examine the evidence. To me, it should boil down to a simple cost/benefit analysis. You have a disease with a known (very low) mortality rate vs. a “cure” with an unknown but potentially very damaging impact on the body. No sensible gambler would take that bet.

    • Agree: Digital Samizdat
    • Replies: @animalogic
    , @Drew
  15. @Brás Cubas

    If I understand correctly,

    It’s one thing to give your cells instructions (via mRNA gene therapy or virus-vector gene therapy) to produce spike protein, to induce your immune system to create antibodies against it.

    It’s another thing to introduce a deactivated whole virus that includes the spike proteins.

    A very different thing.

    • Replies: @Brás Cubas
    , @Chevrus
    , @Anon
  16. Greg S. says:

    So it turns out the worst part of SARS-COV2 is the spike protein. And all main vaccines being rolled out in the west co-opt the body into making spike proteins inside it? Whoops….

    This is the best explanation for the reported “shedding” phenomenon where unvaccinated people complain of symptoms from hanging around vaccinated people. They are picking up stray spike proteins coming off the vaxxed and having reactions. But if just some stray ones can cause a reaction, who the hell wants their own body producing the things??

    The SAR-COV2 story gets stranger and stranger by the day.

  17. The official medicofascist establishment may end up destroying the reputation of modern medicine. If medication treatments like ivermectin prove effective, the establishment denigrates them and thus helps intensify the disease threat. They also seem to go all in for breathing restrictions which have to be injurious to health, and there is an official de facto ministry of truth policing information on the so called vaccines, which probably don’t really fit the definition. If serious levels of death ensue eventually, probably quite likely, then this will be seen as medicine using discredited treatments which can be compared to the 18th century’s use of bleeding patients where the cure is often far worse than the disease.
    The corrupt nature of the present regimes throughout the “west” can be seen in how they have reacted to this “great fear.”

    • Agree: Digital Samizdat
  18. @Greg S.

    It was known that SARS CoV2 was basically a haematological disease months ago, yet that knowledge was suppressed by the powers that be. Once again-why?

  19. Kali [AKA "Unpersoned by fb"] says:

    When I still had a facebook account I used it to share the kind of information presented in this article (there are plenty of ways to bypass the censors on that platform… for a while at least 😕), as well as information detailing just how we came to be in this insane situatation including revised histories of the 20th century, holohoax,the truth about climate science, agenda 21/30, etc… (you get the picture I’m sure).
    Although a large part of my ‘audiance’ there were (are) already very well informed on such matters, I spent a great deal of time reaching out to family and friends of the “normie” variety, and engaged in many discussions and debates in several groups to which I belonged.

    Through it all I managed to reach my sister (always sympathetic to my perspective, though with many reservations, when I shared an article describing the co-opting of the political “left” all the pieces came together for her and she openly declared herself to be a “conspiracy theorist/critical thinker”). I also managed to reach one of my cousins, and was engaging regularly with two nephews, my mother, several of her friends and with a number of friends and aquaintences who were at least open to hearing my alternative perspective. (For clarity, I emmigrated to mainland Europe several years ago, so contact with my family is 90% electronic.)

    It’s frustrating that now I have nowhere to take this information, no way to reach out to all those people who realise something is out of whack, that they’re being deceived, but who can quite piece it all together, or struggle to accept the enormity of the lie.
    But my frustration is part of my own journey of acceptance. To appraise this situation calmly and soberly, without rushing off to share and show the blind and deaf members of my family how wrong they are.

    Somehow my “unpersoning” on that platform (the ip of every device I use is banned) is proving quite empowering as I assess my own likelihood of survival as the Globali\$ts “reset” world to suit their megolamaniacle ends. I now put my energy into plugging the remaining few gaps in my ability to sustain myself.

    Oh, but it is still so very frustrating not to be able to warn others of the coming apocalypse!

  20. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    For the really big atrocities (covid, 9/11) there are multiple goals.

    • Agree: MarkU
  21. @Rumpelstiltskin

    A very different thing.

    Yes, but is it worse? Why?

    Anyway, supposing that it *is* worse because of some mysterious reason, that would only exculpate the inactivated virus type vaccines. The viral vector type (AstraZeneca, Sputnik V) also gives your cell instructions to produce spike proteins.

  22. Tom Verso says:

    It seems to me that at this point in the “inoculation” process, all the above inferential arguments about “potential” negative effects of the “vaccine” are moot.

    Given the large numbers of people who have been “inoculated”, we should be seeing very soon statistically significant large numbers of people manifesting symptoms of vascular or other “vaccine” related diseases.

    In short, a population vs sample experiment is in process and the results will be definitive one way or the other. The ‘vaccine” will be definitively demonstrated to be the cause of negative effects or neutral.

    I look forward to Mr. Whitney’s very excellent follow up on the “vaccinating” ‘experiment’.

    Thanks to him for his always informative and thought provocation writing.
    He is the best ‘social scientific’ writer on TUR.

    Most of the articles here are anecdotal based ideological lamentations.
    Whitney provides statistical factual information and logical inferences based on those facts.
    The reader is free to verify the factual claims and validity of the inferences.

    • Replies: @MarkU
  23. Uh … not that I know anything about the subject, professionally that is, but influenza virus is also spike proteins, as are many others (bird flu, swine flu).

    So what’s the big deal about this?

  24. Avalanche says:

    Ah, Cassandra, Cassandra, I completely sympathize with your inability to get the truth through to nearly all of the people you care about.

    Then, this excellent article puts the cat amongst the pigeons: DARE I provide an anguished wail to my dear ones who HAVE taken the poison?! Would immediate amelioration of their food, exercise, sleep, nutrient-intake, etc. etc. habits HELP prevent the poison from injuring or killing them? It provides damning information to those who’ve been holding off on the poison-injection; so small relief there — but what of those who caved?

    • Thanks: Kali
    • Replies: @Kali
  25. @Commentator Mike

    As I understand it, the big deal is that this ‘vaccine’ actually alters your cells to start producing the spike proteins on their own–presumably forever. No naturally virus does that.

    • Thanks: Commentator Mike
    • Replies: @Cranberries
  26. Wackadoo says:

    I read the original Salk paper. Here is the only mention of “vaccine” which is their last sentence: “This conclusion suggests that vaccination-generated antibody and/or exogenous antibody against S protein not only protects the host from SARS-CoV-2 infectivity but also inhibits S protein-imposed endothelial injury.”

    Their argument about the vaccine seems to NOT be: “Oh shit, we’re injecting people with RNA to tell body to make billions of spike (S) proteins that are themselves pathological.” But rather: “The vaccine is double-plus good because not only will it protect you from Covid, but it will also protect you from that nasty spike protein.”

    You can’t make this stuff up.

    Paper is here:

    • Replies: @botazefa
  27. Jeff M says:

    To Wackadoo 26:

    So are you saying that the Salk conclusion is wrong, or that Mike Whitney’s understanding of it is wrong?

    • Replies: @Wackadoo
  28. Rando says:

    @25 – Digital Samizdat:

    “presumably forever”

    Not if the spike-presenting cells are all killed though. This appears to be one of the questions we dont know the answer to yet.

  29. botazefa says:

    “The vaccine is double-plus good because not only will it protect you from Covid, but it will also protect you from that nasty spike protein.”


    I think the concern is that the vaccines induce the body to produce spike protein, and that in and of itself may be as damaging as viral infection. One might decide that it is better to trust the immune system than inject spike protein producing mRNA into the arm. In non-pandemic non-emergency use eras, presumably, each individual has all the information needed to make an informed choice.

    We’re being told to trust the science, as articulated by low information activist mobs. That’s not a recipe for informed consent.

  30. @Notsofast

    “they’ll both announce that they are gay and their children are a product of genetic engineering.” & that he has a terribly small penis.

    • Replies: @Chevrus
    , @Chevrus
  31. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    “Why are so many so-called ‘Christians’ such viciously nassty thugs?”
    Difficult question — where & from whom exactly did Christianity emerge from?

  32. @Toronto Mike

    “No sensible gambler would take that bet.”
    Correct…. Unless you are “old” or have co-morbities up the warzoo & you live in
    a stew of Covid (ie India, say).

  33. Drew says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Look into 15th and 17th Presbyterianism as it arose in the UK and led into the English civil war. That should provide some insight

  34. Wackadoo:

    You say:

    Their argument about the vaccine seems to NOT be: “Oh shit, we’re injecting people with RNA to tell body to make billions of spike (S) proteins that are themselves pathological.” But rather: “The vaccine is double-plus good because not only will it protect you from Covid, but it will also protect you from that nasty spike protein.”

    Good point!

    Let’s talk about it.

    Here’s the entire quote from the report:

    “Although these findings need to be confirmed with the SARS-CoV-2 virus in the future study, it seems paradoxical that ACE2 reduction by S protein would decrease the virus infectivity, thereby protecting endothelium. However, a dysregulated renin-angiotensin system due to ACE2 reduction may exacerbate endothelial dysfunction, leading to endotheliitis. Collectively, our results suggest that the S protein-exerted EC damage overrides the decreased virus infectivity. This conclusion suggests that vaccination-generated antibody and/or exogenous antibody against S protein not only protects the host from SARS-CoV-2 infectivity but also inhibits S protein-imposed endothelial injury.”

    What they are saying is that– in as much as the antibodies produced by the vaccine relieve the inflammation in the endothelium (The layer of cells that line the blood vessels)– that “overrides” other concerns.

    Okay. Their paper doesn’t prove that, but that’s their call to make.

    What is missing in this explanation is any reference to the additional spike proteins that are produced by the vaccines themselves. In my analysis, I quoted Dr Chun, Yale cardiologist who said,

    “What makes this finding so disturbing is that the COVID-19 mRNA vaccines … currently being administered throughout the U.S. program our cells to manufacture this same coronavirus spike protein as a way to trigger our bodies to produce antibodies to the virus.”

    Let me simplify:

    1– The spike protein is causing inflammation in the lining of the blood vessel walls (The Salk paper proves this)

    2– The antibodies from the vaccine can help reduce the inflammation (the Salk paper suggests this with the proviso: ” Although these findings need to be confirmed”. That sounds like a “guess” to me)

    3– But–the spike proteins produced by the cells that have been modified by the vaccine– are not directly addressed in the research paper.

    Is this a fair analysis or am I missing something??
    If I am wrong, I will ask Ron to take down the article.

  35. Drew says:
    @Toronto Mike

    That’s just it, isn’t it? Sensible gamblers stay out of casinos, ergo any gambler in a casino isn’t sensible…

    • Replies: @lysias
  36. Domingo says:

    What personally enrages me more than anything else is that the Catholic Church in particular and Christianity in general did not step up to protect their communities from the deadly, criminal overreach by government when they started a year and a half ago to inflict this atrocity on the world.

    • Agree: Rubicon, Grandpa
    • Replies: @MaryLS
  37. MarkU says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Spike proteins are the part of an animal virus which allows it to attach to living cells, spike proteins are not all the same.

  38. Wackadoo says:
    @Jeff M

    I personally think Salk conclusion likely wrong and Whitney correct. But I think the broader point is that they (Salk authors) won’t even entertain the idea that their own data can be interpreted to show negative consequences of taking vaccine.

    • Replies: @Parrus
  39. MarkU says:
    @Tom Verso

    Given the large numbers of people who have been “inoculated”, we should be seeing very soon statistically significant large numbers of people manifesting symptoms of vascular or other “vaccine” related diseases.

    In short, a population vs sample experiment is in process and the results will be definitive one way or the other. The ‘vaccine” will be definitively demonstrated to be the cause of negative effects or neutral.

    In principle you are right but we are living in an age where information that conflicts with the official narrative is now being censored as ‘disinformation’. The drive to vaccinate the whole population will largely eliminate the control group, so direct comparisons between ‘vaccinated’ and ‘unvaccinated’ people will be difficult. Any rise in vascular or other potentially ‘vaccine’ related diseases will probably be reported as ‘mysterious’ increases which are leaving the medical establishment ‘puzzled’ (if they are reported at all)

    In short, you are right but good luck finding the data.

  40. @Mike Whitney

    Mike, you might want to look at this critique of the Salk study from a surgeon-scientist writing from the pro-vaccine side. I think the writer engages in fallacies of the strawman and ad hominem variety, but he does provide a clearly written view of why he thinks the study, actually a pre-published non peer reviewed research letter doesn’t show what you and I think it does. I would be interested in your opinion of it.

    • Thanks: Brás Cubas
    • Replies: @The Savvage
  41. Chevrus says:

    Yeah its called a micro soft!

    • LOL: animalogic
  42. Him says:

    Is the divorce of Bill and Melinda Gates just a way to protect some of their fortune from future legal actions?

  43. Chevrus says:

    This is where I was unclear as far as what the article was saying. It say several times ‘injecting millions of spike proteins’ but my understanding is that the mRNA delivers commands that cause the host’s body to begin PRODUCING them. If so, when does this production cease? Can someone please clarify?

    • Replies: @Brás Cubas
  44. Chevrus says:

    Yeah, it’s called a Micro Soft!

  45. From the CDC website:

    COVID-19 mRNA vaccines give instructions for our cells to make a harmless piece of what is called the “spike protein.” The spike protein is found on the surface of the virus that causes COVID-19.

    Emphasis added. The CDC might want to revise their understanding of the harmless nature of the spike protein in light of the recent Salk information.

    • Agree: Brás Cubas
    • Thanks: meamjojo
  46. @Greg S.

    The injection turns a person into a shedder. The real bioweapon is not SARS-Cov2 rather it is the dangerous ‘vaccines’ that appeared out of nowhere in no time.
    The press -thanks jews! – has convinced people who faced no real risk of anything beyond a day or so of minor symptoms to become part of a mission to spread disease far and wide.

  47. Jeff M says:

    My take away is that I see a kind of Hegelian problem, reaction, solution here. First, one has a natural immune system. There is a Covid “problem”. We have to immunize everyone because of the Covid “problem” (reaction). Then the spike protein from the vaccine is causing inflammation in the lining of the blood vessel walls (new problem). Then the antibodies from the vaccine reduce the inflammation (solution) that would never have occurred without the vaccine being given in the first place. This is caused by Scientism, the worship of “priests” in white lab coats, against nature. Whatever the particulars of the Salk study, I thank Mike Whitney for articulating this major issue to a general readership.

  48. This is an unprecedented global catastrophe that could result in the deaths of millions.

    Wasn’t that the plan all along?

    You know, to save the Earth, not humanity.

  49. @Him

    I am very suspicious as they are both satanists, liars and killers.
    I strongly suspect a con of some sort.

  50. @MarkU

    It’s complicated to make comparisons as in the non-vaccinated there could be a rise in vascular diseases among Covid-19 survivors.

    So you are saying that vaccination has the same effects as Covid-19 on vascular diseases? Has that been confirmed?

  51. Based Lad says:

    Ooh, ooh, pick me! Pick me! I know this one!

  52. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Why are so many so-called ‘Christians’ such viciously nassty thugs?

    Possibly for the same reason so many so-called “Muslims” are head-chopping psycopaths.

    Or why the “Chosen People” seem to think God would approve of their genocidal, hate-filled view of the Gentiles.

    A rose by any other name smells as sweet – but rebranding dog turds as roses don’t make them smell any better.

  53. @Rob2021

    The depopulation program has been active since 1974:

    “Implications of Worldwide Population Growth For U.S. Security and Overseas Interests (THE KISSINGER REPORT”

    Prince Philip (WWF) may have already re-incarnated as a deadly virus in order to solve the population “issue”. If vaccines don’t work, Prince Philip will come to the rescue.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
    , @lysias
  54. @Nostradamus

    LOL, Prince Philip probably reincarnated in India as some deadliest strain of Covid-19. How appropriate.

  55. @Weston Waroda

    The writer of that blog — David Gorski — is a known pharma shill:

    Every blog post he has written in recent months has to do with attempting to discredit any and all vaccine criticism. Every single one. He has never encountered a vaccine that he is not madly in love with, especially the neu-Covid-19 ‘vaccines’. I suspect he has massive investments/stock/401k in Pfizer/ModeRNA/Johnson and Johnson and other international pharmaceutical cartels.

    That current blog post about the Salk study is, as usual, crap. he doesn’t even address the findings that the spike protein ALONE (without any viral RNA) has been demonstrated to cause vascular damage. He attacks the journal it is published in, the structure of the paper itself, the authors, and inserts what I call “noise science” to make it sound like he actually knows what he is talking about when he clearly does not.

    After all, Gorski is a breast cancer surgeon….not a microbiologist, virologist, immunologist,or even a research fellow. He operates on boobies.

    • Thanks: meamjojo
    • Replies: @Weston Waroda
  56. @Chevrus

    According to a CDC piece,

    Once the instructions (mRNA) are inside the immune cells, the cells use them to make the protein piece. After the protein piece is made, the cell breaks down the instructions and gets rid of them.

    Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines

  57. Weston Waroda

    Thanks for the article:

    Very interesting read.
    I’m glad you sent it my way.
    I do not claim to be the final authority on these matters of science… And there is plenty I don’t know. I will, however, always provide my honest opinion on these matters and publicly correct myself when I’m wrong.

    It’s clear, the author of this piece despises anyone who veers from his high opinion of the new Covid vaccines. The hatred towards these “antivax” vermin is palpable from the first paragraph on. This hyperbolic approach to the experimental vaccines, greatly undermines his argument which appears to be energized not by calm, rational thinking but visceral hatred of anyone who disagrees with him.


    The meat and potatoes of his viewpoint comes towards the end of the article where he says:

    “But here’s the kicker, taken right from the final paragraph of the (Salk research) paper:

    “Collectively, our results suggest that the S protein-exerted EC damage overrides the decreased virus infectivity. This conclusion suggests that vaccination-generated antibody and/or exogenous antibody against S protein not only protects the host from SARS-CoV-2 infectivity but also inhibits S protein imposed endothelial injury.”

    In other words, the vaccine could be protective not just against infection by SARS-CoV-2 but also against endothelial injury from the spike protein.

    I just want to reiterate again that this is a contrived system. It’s far from a worthless system, as pseudovirus systems have value in studying the role of spike protein in the pathogenesis of COVID-19. However, given the crapton of pseudovirus used in this hamster model, I really question any relevance of this system to vaccine safety issues with respect to mRNA– or adenovirus-based vaccines that produce the spike protein as an antigen. Why? The mRNA or adenovirus from the vaccines does not distribute extensively given that it’s an intramuscular injection, and the spike protein is highly unlikely to attain concentrations in the circulation anywhere near the high levels produced by the model used in these experiments.” (end of quote)

    What is so strange about this last paragraph, is that, the author appears to be challenging the conclusions of the Salk report just as I challenged the conclusion in the last sentence of the report. Our reasoning is different, (I though the final comments were “tacked on” to the main text whereas, the author says ” I really question any relevance of this system to vaccine safety issues “…)

    But it is the author’s final comments that readers should pay close attention to. Here’s what he said:

    Unfortunately, the Salk Institute press release appears to have been written without any consideration as to how to avoid making it easy fodder for antivaxxers to use as propaganda. In the past, this sort of lapse was forgivable. In the middle of a pandemic, it is not, particularly given that on social media very few read the actual study while most read the no more than the press release or even much beyond the headline.

    In fact, I have an idea for authors and university press officials from here on out. Any study of the spike protein’s role in the pathogenesis of COVID-19 should include in the study itself and in any press releases a strong disclaimer emphasizing how the results of the study do not say anything about the safety of COVID-19 vaccines, for the sorts of reasons I have listed above. Consider it a useful “pre-bunking” of the disinformation antivaxxers use basically any study about spike protein to produce these days.”

    Correct me if I am wrong, but the author appears to be saying that any interpretation of the science that veers from his strong advocacy for the covid vaccines should from this-time-forward include a ” disclaimer emphasizing how the results of the study do not say anything about the safety of COVID-19 vaccines”.

    In short, one’s own strongly felt political views should be used to shape the science.

    Isn’t that what he’s actually saying??

  58. lysias says:

    Goodbye to the human race.

    Except for those of us who have had the sense not to take the vaccine.

    • Agree: Sollipsist
    • Replies: @Sollipsist
  59. @Commentator Mike

    Thanks for the clarification. If influenza and other seasonal viruses, including the common cold presumably are spike proteins, the problem arises regardless of whether cv-19 has been isolated as a separate coronavirus.

  60. lysias says:
    @Mike Whitney

    Don’t have the article taken down, if you decide you were wrong. That way, people who have read this piece will not know that you changed your mind.

    If you decide you were wrong, put an update at the head of your piece saying you have changed your mind.

    • Agree: Kali, Poirot
  61. lysias says:

    If you regard gambling as a form of entertainment, going to a casino is not senseless. If you lose, the money lost is the price of entertainment. If you win, so much the better.

  62. @Mike Whitney

    Yes, that is exactly what he is saying. All “science” must only fit into a certain narrative or political worldview, with no room whatsoever for any dissent or alternative viewpoints or thinking.

    This is Gorski’s M.O. all in the name of “science”. The boobie surgeon thinks he is also a vaccine expert who has complete knowledge of all the “science” even though it is nowhere near his field of expertise.

    This form of censorship is extremely dangerous, as it allows a Soviet-style oligarchy of “inner party members” as it were, to decide what is true or false, fact or fiction.

  63. @Thomasina

    All over the world it is now clear that obese people of every age and race are far more susceptible to Covid than any other group. Why? Fat cells have a lot of ACE 2 receptors. And while they may not have as many ACE 2 receptors per cell as heart, lungs or other organs, there are far more fat cells than the other organs. Fat cells are a major producer of cytokines.

    We have a carbohydrate epidemic worldwide that is causing people all over the world to become obese. And Covid is making it clear how bad that epidemic of obesity can harm us all.

    Cut the carbs! Plants were not our natural diet. For the last two million years humans were apex predators.

    Eating plant based foods high in carbohydrates, causes high blood sugar levels, which in turn causes high insulin levels, and insulin opens the doors in the fat cells to allow sugar into the fat cell where the sugar is converted to fat and stored. That is the cause of this worldwide obesity epidemic.

    Covid is just taking advantage of it.

    • Replies: @lysias
    , @MarkU
    , @Thomasina
  64. Rubicon says:

    Mike Whitney:
    We are heavily in debt to all the articles you’ve published about Covid.
    We think this current article perfectly sums up as to how dangerous this “jab” is to Western citizens.

    We thank you, Mike, and for publishing this frightening Covid scenario.
    God Bless you both!!

  65. lysias says:

    Turns out Prince Philip was named after his uncle Prince Philip of Hesse, who was involved in the Nazis’ T4 euthanasia program.

  66. Tom Verso says:

    Yes of course we are not about to get methodological rigorous statistical analysis.

    However, it seems that a very large number of people are opting for the vaccination. On a personal level it seems that most people I know are already vaccinated.

    If the number vaccinated goes into the 100 million range and there are a serious number who have negative consequences, I don’t think that can be denied or hidden . Emphasis on ‘think’.

  67. Rubicon says:

    “It’s frustrating that now I have nowhere to take this information…..”
    My brother, who lives in Canada, refuses to look at authentic articles that highly question this Covid-madness.

    This, despite, his whole life having spent studying mathematics and science that reaches into the higher eschelons of the known universe.
    He and his brother were always rambunctious in their youth, always fleeing any form of mainstream “thinking.”

    But now he’s 73, and we think, like most of us, are afraid of our own mortality. He’s completely shut off his great understandings in those two fields and conformed to what CNN and the Western Media that keeps spreading fear about Covid.

    We now understand and accept there are people, who know matter what, if you hit them over the head with a light tap by a baseball swing, will never wake up. You simply have to let them go down that road all on their own. Ya can’t save them when their minds have been so propagandized by the media, governments who are spewing out such nonsense.

    • Agree: Kali
    • Replies: @MaryLS
  68. anonymous[729] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mike Whitney

    It is unclear how antibodies, which are targeed to specific ‘foreign’ or ‘alien’ antigens, would help to mitigate endothelial inflammation.

    This article states otherwise:

    Anti-spike IgG Induces High Inflammation

    The severe lung injury seen in SARS first identified in 2003 has been shown earlier to be due to early high IgG production targeting the spike protein, which causes macrophages to be directed towards intense inflammation rather than tissue regeneration and repair. In this animal model, blocking Fc receptors could suppress inflammation and collateral damage. The same picture is observed in severely ill COVID-19 patients.

    The present study aimed to examine the possibility that the anti-spike IgG antibodies are behind the excessive inflammation in these patients.

    Also, antibodies are felt to be a sensitive early market for developing RA:

    The vaccines produce, specifically, the S1 subunit of the spike protein. The S1 subunit elicits IL-6 cytokine production, and crosses the blood brain barrier.

    S1 subunit induces cytokine response

    S1 subunit crosses BBB

    S1 subunit induces hyercoagulability (good article)

    ACE2 receptors are upregulated in frontal lobes in patients with hypertension and diabetes, also dementia.

  69. Grandpa says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    why are so many humans ignorant? why are so many humans evil? why are so many…
    I’d say you get my drift here, but I think you don’t. it is the simplest thing to pick out the bad in any ‘group’; but to then taint all of them by that fraction is simple ignorance. Think. Refuse to be led by the crowd. Study to show yourself approved and worthy.
    Of course, there is always the option of keeping one’s mouth closed, so as to at least have the doubt in your favor.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  70. lysias says:

    It’s Vitamin D deficiency. Vitamin D deficiency causes human bodies to act as if it’s the height of winter, with reduced activity and consumption of a lot of high-calory food, and thus obesity.

    And it’s a vicious cycle. Obesity exacerbates Vitamin D deficiency. The body stores Vitamin D by preference in fat cells. The more this happens, the less such Vitamin D is stored in the blood, so that it can go throughout the body and, among other things, fight infections.

    There is a solution to this problem: absorption of Vitamin D, whether through exposure to sunlight or through consumption of supplements or foods rich in Vitamin D. Instead of a vicious cycle, there is now a virtuous cycle, since one of the things that Vitamin D does is to reduce appetite.

    I have observed these effects on myself, since I now take 20,000 international units of Vitamin D per day .

  71. Greg S. says:

    I find this absolutely hilarious: turns out the smartest guy in the room regarding SARS-COV2 is none other than Haiti. Haiti! Where they basically drink out of toilet bowls.

    Concern about the pandemic is so minimal that this April, when the World Health Organization-led COVAX program offered Haiti a shipment of AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccines, the government rejected it.

    • Replies: @Weston Waroda
  72. Maxwell says:

    The “virus” was invented in the board rooms of Pharma/Biotech/Private Equity firms.

    No so-called ‘coronavirus’ has ever been fully isolated, characterized and proven to cause a particular disease in any animal or human studies. They are ALL theoretical, ‘in silico’ computer-models.

    Covid is just a massive extortion racket for big pharma and their criminal doctor and public health friends to prevent an illness caused by a virus that does not even exist.

    The CDC and their European counterparts are vaccine cartels which are now empowered to “give freedoms” to the “vaccinated.” Virus “variants” are nothing more than new income streams for Pharma corporations.

    At present, according to VAERS, after only 4 months of the ” covid vaccine rollout”, the total number of deaths attributed to the covid “vaccines” represents 45% of total deaths EVER reported in the VAERS system over a 30 year period.

    The four major companies who are making these covid “vaccines” are/have either:

    1. Never brought a vaccine to market before Operation Covid (Moderna- all previous products failed tests and Johnson & Johnson).

    2. Are serial felons (Pfizer and AstraZeneca.

    3. Are both (Johnson and Johnson).

    And we are to be turned into experimental bodies for large monied interests that have decades long track records of corruption and harmful practices? No thanks.

    Pfizer and Johnson & Johnson, are two of the most unscrupulous and fined corporations in US history. Moderna has no track record other than failure of 9 previous attempts at establishing “gene therapy”- they are not even a vaccine company, and was on the verge of bankruptcy in 2016.

    These are the entities we are supposed to place our trust in for our health?

  73. @Greg S.

    Just as European countries were pausing the AstraZeneca covid vaccine due to blood clotting issues, the US in its unselfish generosity gave Mexico 5 million doses of AstraZeneca.

  74. Bobzilla says:

    From the Salk website:

    LA JOLLA—Scientists have known for a while that SARS-CoV-2’s distinctive “spike” proteins help the virus infect its host by latching on to healthy cells. Now, a major new study shows that the virus spike proteins (which behave very differently than those safely encoded by vaccines) also play a key role in the disease itself.

    The paper, published on April 30, 2021, in Circulation Research, also shows conclusively that COVID-19 is a vascular disease, demonstrating exactly how the SARS-CoV-2 virus damages and attacks the vascular system on a cellular level. The findings help explain COVID-19’s wide variety of seemingly unconnected complications, and could open the door for new research into more effective therapies.

    Based on what I put in bold above, are the authors saying that the spike protein encoded in the vaccine will not harm you?

  75. anonymous[304] • Disclaimer says:

    The problem with all this Mister Science bullshit, like from that boob Doctor on the take, is that when you get shot up, the shit your genes churn out is totally random.

    When you’re gene-splicing with CRISPR, you might as well be doing it with a backhoe. It rips the shit out of genetic material. Big Pharma’s answer to the Salk simulation is, well, it’s not really spike protein, it’s little shreds of stuff, good enough for government work, so shut the fuck up, you want your Gramma to DIE??

    • Replies: @The Savvage
  76. @lloyd

    Somebody must have emailed Melinda pics of hubby’s boy buggery escapades on Epstein island.

    Supposedly Billy Bob had written into his marriage vows that he be allowed to visit his ex-girlfriend once a year on an island in S. Carolina. Sound familiar?

    • Replies: @SafeNow
  77. @Mike Whitney

    I had the same reaction when I read the last paragraph you quote. It means he precludes the possibility of legitimate vaccine criticism. Therefore he is not objective and I cannot trust his arguments.

  78. @lysias

    Actually Vitamin D is stored in the liver and can only be produced by the skin exposed to direct sunlight.

    Why infectious disease vanishes in summer and returns in winter

    The liver should store 3 months of vitamin D during the summer for winter months when our skin makes very little vitamin D.


    I would like to suggest reading the following:

    A little known, in the US anyway, enzyme may be helpful in the elimination of spike proteins in the vascular system.

    Serrapeptase digests inflammations, scars (non-living tissue), blood clots, cysts, arterial plaque, and inflammation in all forms.

    Serrapeptase is currently being studied and used for a vast array of applications for human health and disease prevention. This includes therapeutic use for nerve damage, multiple sclerosis, chronic ear infections, hay fever, lung congestion, swollen glands, laryngitis, rhinitis, chronic pain, arthritis, back and neck pain, diabetes, ulcers, osteoporosis, prostate problems, rheumatoid arthritis, sports injuries, post operative scars and lesions, breast cysts, varicose veins, arterial diseases, angina, and blood clots.

    Firstly, you want to reduce inflammation because inflammation is at the root of most, if not all, pain. Serrapeptase is a little-known supplement with dramatic inflammation reducing properties. It is a proteolytic enzyme that helps to thin and drain fluids which surround an injury in the body, whilst also speeding up tissue repair. Serrapeptase is dually beneficial for pain relief because it not only reduces inflammation; it also inhibits the release of pain-inducing chemicals known as bradykinin.


    • Replies: @MarkU
  79. @geokat62

    Zelenko was hardly the first to use HCQ, but he is orthodox Judaic, saving ‘precious Jewish lives’, so he must be promoted before mere others.

  80. @animalogic

    Yeah, but many Christians follow Jesus Christ’s hardly original preachings, and act benevolently in the world, while others who call themselves ‘Christian’ are very nassty thugs indeed. It’s the same with Jews, Moslems, Hindus, Buddhists and atheists, I would say.

    • Replies: @animalogic
  81. @Grandpa

    Gramps, I could not agree more. Many Christians are fine people, but many are not, and some are Evil. Coming from a religion of ‘love’ and ‘peace’ this is, not so much bemusing, but troubling.

    • Replies: @Jefferson Temple
  82. 68view says:

    As I said when they started pushing for the so called “vaccine”, I knew it would be a killshot! They have a purpose for giving these dangerous gene therapy injectins and it’s not to sustain life. Again.., It’s a killshot! You won’t die right away, it’ll just take a little time. It doesn’t require bullets so it’s less messy.
    You can bet your bottom dollar Big Pharma, Big Tech, and all, along with our governments will do their best to not have the public see this report.
    These people are parasites and if justice is ever served properly to them, they should be treated as such.

  83. Bobzilla:

    In the original article, the first paragraph reads differently than the one you posted. It read like this:

    “Scientists have known for a while that SARS-CoV-2’s distinctive “spike” proteins help the virus infect its host by latching on to healthy cells. Now, a major new study shows that they play a key role in the disease itself.

    The paragraph you posted above was changed to read like this:

    LA JOLLA—Scientists have known for a while that SARS-CoV-2’s distinctive “spike” proteins help the virus infect its host by latching on to healthy cells. Now, a major new study shows that the virus spike proteins (which behave very differently than those safely encoded by vaccines) also play a key role in the disease itself.

    There is a significant difference between the two paragraphs.

    Do you need proof that the original text was changed??

    Then listen to Robin Monotti Graziadei read the first paragraph on youtube (before it is removed!)

    Here it is:

    What this helps to show, is that there is a rapid response team that is now performing “mopping up” exercises when people say something that does not conform to the official narrative.

    • Agree: Kali
  84. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    It’s a religion claimed by billions of people. Any belief with that many so called adherents is going to include numerous examples of nasty people.

    • Agree: Mulga Mumblebrain
  85. Mel says:

    Or they’re trying to do damage control and divide assets should something be coming down the pipe that their assets will be confiscated.

  86. @Brás Cubas

    Hi. I’m no expert either, but the difference I see is that they may have in essence created another virus, because the mRNA vaccines create something that can create more of these spike proteins. At least with J n J it isn’t supposed to reproduce itself. It just enters the cells with the help of a disabled adenovirus. Maybe that’s why it’s getting such bad press.

  87. @Digital Samizdat

    This is wrong. Here’s basically how the mRNA vaccines work:

    Each of your cells has a “master copy” of your genome in the nucleus, in the form of DNA. When your cell “decides” to make a protein, it copies the information from the region of DNA that codes for that protein (the gene). The copies are made of RNA, which is similar but not identical to DNA (“mRNA” stands for “messenger RNA”, and it refers to the RNA used to carry these “messages” from the nucleus). The copies are then “read” by the cellular machinery (ribosomes) that builds proteins from genetic information.

    RNA is very unstable– that’s why the mRNA vaccines have to be kept super-cold. RNA is also quite rapidly degraded by your cells. There is no evidence of any mechanism by which your cell would hold onto the RNA in the vaccine forever. In order for your cells to keep producing spike protein, presumably the RNA would need to become translated into DNA and splice itself into your genome, but it has no way of doing that.

    The risk from the vaccine comes from:

    – The acute effect of flooding your system with zillions of spike protein units produced by your cells before the vaccine mRNA degrades.
    – The learned immune response to those spike proteins, which is the semi-permanent effect of the vaccine. Your immune system “learns” to recognize the spike protein and produced antibodies to it. However, whenever your immune system learns to attack some pathogen, there is a risk of misfire in which it attacks your own tissue because it looks like the pathogen. That’s what autoimmunity it is, and the risk is higher when there is “molecular mimicry” as described in the article (you develop antibodies for something that looks a lot like your own tissue).

    • Replies: @LysineDefender
  88. meamjojo says:
    @Stephen J. Gray

    The synchronization of positive vaccine news is amazing. As I watch the news everyday all vaccine news is slanted positively via videos showing people “getting the jab” while TV whoring MD’s bemoan so-called vaccine hesitancy as they discuss plans to stab more people. “Why won’t you trust us?”.

    Any dissent is buried, minimized or eliminated. Anyone who disagrees with mainstream medicine is effectively censored by being denied a platform to speak from in the MSM. I don’t recall ever seeing the MSM so coordinated and it makes me damn suspicious.

    But it isn’t just the TV MD’s, anchors and so-called pundits. If you read the mainstream comment boards, such as the NYT, the vast majority of readers are calling for forced vaccination, elimination of rights for the non-vaccinated including the right to travel, attend events, eat in restaurants or even receive medical care if they get sick from Covid. This is not maybe a hundred people as we might have commenting here but literally thousands. One article I read recently and jumped into the fray on had almost 5000 similar comments, all reinforcing each other! It’s getting scary.

    • Replies: @Bobzilla
  89. Kali [AKA "Unpersoned by fb"] says:

    Nice Cassandra reference. I am unworthy!

    One day before my accout was removed a cousin (younger tham me, fit and healthy) announced she’d had her first jab.
    Others, I’m sure, will go the same way, including my, very sceptical brother, who will be forced into participating in this experiment in genetic modification of the species in order to continue “teaching” at the school where he works.
    Will he allow his 11 year old twins to be injected when their access to school becomes dependant on their participation in this experiment? Only time will tell.

    Ours, it seems, is to bare witness and to make ourselves mentally, physically and spiritually strong to fight back when they come for us.
    Already in my own life those drums are beating, as a battle over water-rights seems set to go to court.
    And whilst I’m more than happy, not to mention experienced, to go there to discuss such a fundamental human-rights issue, I wonder how it might go when myself and my husband refuse to be muzzled.

    Such interesting times we encounter!

    Thanks for your reply. And to Rubicon too.

  90. @Mike Whitney

    Good catch, Mr. Whitney, and perhaps just as you speculated:

    Or will they try something else entirely, like claim that one class of spike proteins are good for you while others lead to protracted illness and death?

    Many of us struggling with this personal health decision aren’t medical experts, but we are pretty good at spotting propaganda. So, to anyone who wants to credibly defend what Mr. Whitney calls the “official narrative,” please justify this hasty, awkward change in the subject article, specifying what else in its original or revised version substantiates that

    the virus spike proteins … behave very differently than those safely encoded by vaccines

    Thanks to all who are enabling good faith discussion.

    • Replies: @Johnny Rico
  91. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Sure, Fair’s fair. Re the other religions there


    lots of nasty thugs etc.
    But, what’s tricky with Christianity is that Love & forgiveness are the very DNA of the religion. That opens up lots more questions compared to say, yhwh worshippers. (we know exactly how vicious that belief set is)

  92. Boris II says:
    @Mike Whitney

    I’m sure they changed it in response to ignorant conspiracy theorists making up their own science.

  93. MrPete says:

    Let’s pause for just a moment. Before we go publishing conclusions, let’s ensure the science is at least a bit reliable.
    If you need a refresher (and believe it or not, most do)… Search for: NOVA what makes science true
    And watch the video.

    Remember our concerns that these vaccines have not been tested well enough?
    The same concern applies to any scientific study.

    How prestigious the institute does not matter.
    As Richard Feynman liked to say, the number of letters after your name does not matter.
    Consensus does not matter.

    First, we need to try hard to disprove this study.
    And the first thing needed is for other groups to reproduce the same result. “Replication” studies.

    Remember the scary studies rushed into the major journals last year, that all had to be retracted? They could not be reproduced, for various reasons.

    Even the best scientists, with no bias, still find it hard to learn anything… Because we too easily fool ourselves.

  94. @lloyd

    Any planned visit to Fort Marcy Park should be cancelled

  95. anon[137] • Disclaimer says:

    “The drive to vaccinate the whole population will largely eliminate the control group,”

    Aah, the ole talmudic gutting knife. No way, Jose. The poisoning stops now. You want your body converted into a spike protein making machine?

    • Replies: @MarkU
  96. Anon[137] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mike Whitney

    Whenever i read a document my question is ‘what is the information warhead that this author wishes to deliver?’ Hedging conclusions and comments become just that. Here, the point is very clear, this spike protein is hideously dangerous.

  97. MarkU says:

    Do we have crossed wires or something? I have no idea how your response relates to my post, what do you imagine I am saying?

    • Replies: @Anon
  98. MarkU says:
    @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle

    Actually Vitamin D is stored in the liver and can only be produced by the skin exposed to direct sunlight.

    If you are claiming that sunlight is the only way to get vitamin D then you are wrong, if you are not claiming that then you should construct your sentences more thoughtfully.

  99. MarkU says:

    All over the world it is now clear that obese people of every age and race are far more susceptible to Covid than any other group

    Utter tripe, have a look at the mortality rates by age group in the UK (scroll down to figure 2.a.) There are plenty of obese people under 60 so where is the mortality? Clearly age is the single predominant factor and the correlation with obesity is trivial in comparison.

  100. Anon[269] • Disclaimer says:

    People are misunderstanding the paper. The spike protein in the paper is just the spike protein alone, with no other parts of the viral particle of the real virus. What they have done is create a pseudo virus that results in production of just the spike protein, it is not what is produced by the real virus, the spike protein attached to the rest of the construct of the viral particle. In other words, the in vitro experiments of the paper do not directly tell you what the in vivo actions of the real virus are.

    Also there are issues of just how much spike protein is produced by the pseudo virus experiment, and how do those levels compare to in vivo levels, and then very importantly, what is going on when you have complete serum, in vivo conditions. In vivo there are a lot of peptidases circulating that will destroy the spike protein. In vitro, the levels can build up. It is very different.

    This is a continuing problem with scientific research/papers, going from the in vitro experiments, with special non-representative conditions, and speculating, or translating to in vivo conditions that are much more complex.

    In vitro culture conditions are very simplified, and do not represent in vivo conditions.

  101. From the Salk Institute news release:
    Now, a major new study shows that the virus spike proteins (which behave very differently than those safely encoded by vaccines) also play a key role in the disease itself.

    Did you miss that part about “which behave very differently than those safely encoded by vaccines” in the first paragraph, or did it just not fit your narrative?

    • Replies: @The Savvage
    , @Greta Handel
  102. @anonymous

    Exactly. We have been told two conflicting stories about spike proteins just in the last 4 months! In December the CDC told the world the spike protein was “harmless”. In April this study at Salk declares the spike protein causes vascular damage or perhaps disease, then edits their phrasing to say that some spike proteins are OK, just because.

    Sounds like “all animals are created equal….but some animals are more equal than others.”

  103. @Comprehension Skills

    For someone using a pseudonym “comprehension skills”, it is disappointing to see that you missed the key point above that very clearly states that the first paragraph was altered/edited later to incorporate the phrase “which behave very differently than those safely encoded by vaccines”

    As Mr Whitney rightly points out, there is clearly a mopping up and rewriting of history going on in order to conform to a particular agenda or perspective.

    • Thanks: Greta Handel
    • Replies: @Comprehension Skills
  104. JJ10 says:

    I’d be curious to know if anybody else is having ruptured appendix or anything similar.

  105. Anon[300] • Disclaimer says:

    well, it’s like this . . . You certainly implied that “The drive to vaccinate the whole population” would succeed, leaving no control group for comparison. I found that defeatist. Further, I thought it likely that this was purposeful. One often encounters in the blogosphere fellow travelers who then turn and cleverly undercut the arguments of their ‘own side’. It’s a standard propaganda technique of liar cultures (such as talmudism, jesuitical practice, the uppercrust British, and, some say, Hinduism (certainly tuggee influenced hinduism).

    But I certainly could be wrong.

    • Replies: @MarkU
  106. published in 2004 So when Kissinger funded the development of HIV/AIDS they hit the jackpot with the discovery of genetically engineering spike proteins ( which to introduce into the human body is more effectively done via injection, it has to get into the bloodstream, but also was transmittable via sex if tissues were broken during the sex ) Search engine HIV spike protein also interesting

    • Replies: @ImaBotKnot
  107. kapoore says:

    Thank you for another outstanding article on this subject at a time when it must be hard to stick your neck out. I read the Salk article and it is not specifically about the vaccine but the spike protein’s role in infection, yet the spike protein is in the vaccine…duh? I also read the article debunking the response to the article, that claims, with no evidence, that the spike protein in the vaccine is good because it creates antibodies against the spike protein produced by the vaccine. The time has come for the vaccine producers to come out with exactly what is in their vaccines. If it is a different (benign or beneficial spike protein) then we need to know about that, like yesterday. Why do these “debunkers” never mention the VAERS numbers? Even with swine flu when the numbers reached something like 30 deaths that was it for the vaccine. We’re way over 3,000 at this point and climbing.

  108. @ImaBotKnot

    Title of Paper Structural similarity between HIV-1 gp41 and SARS-CoV S2 proteins suggests an analogous membrane fusion mechanism
    Xue Wu Zhang∗ and Yee Leng Yap

  109. Termar says:

    I appreciate the great article and vitally important information but the artwork/illustrations are so revolting that I hesitate to share it. Could you pick something less extreme?

  110. @Comprehension Skills

    Yep — another one-and-done commenter.

    Wring out the mop, and try again.

  111. @geokat62

    Nomination is virtually meaningless, and throwing around such a claim is counterproductive, IMHO.

  112. EmDee says:

    Simply and due to time constraints I have a legit question as I agree 100% with your experience with family/friends as we’ve had the same. I can’t wrap my head around whether you and I as critically thinking, survival minded individuals-have the powers that be acknowledged that WE may be the ones to survive this? Are WE the chosen ones? Those of us who decline vax. I begin wondering if I’m the idiot not getting it from time to time because all around me from teens on up are getting it with few exceptions. Of the 500 million left….those that decline today’s marketing scheme….we are not compliant as I’d expect them to prefer. Thanks for indulging me. Is it just about reducing population no matter who remains?

    • Replies: @Kali
    , @Bugey libre
  113. @geokat62

    How about a Nobel Prize for going against Big Pharma because he is upholding his Hippocratic oath.

    Maybe you should look up how many people Big Pharma assassinates or ruins, admittedly, this is hard information to get.

    Also, why are you assuming that the people that nominated him are as naive as a 10 year old?


    • Replies: @geokat62
  114. anon[220] • Disclaimer says:

    The bill of indictment for crimes against humanity is coming right along. Interestingly, the legal strategy is directed first against the industry mad scientists who forced medical experimentation with false claims.

    That exposes mind-boggling institutional corruption, with federal officials given personal stakes in experimental vaccine procurements. So corruption => regulatory capture => malversation in breach of ICCPR Article 7. It’s worth mentioning only because it’s going to the ICC, the Hague, not bullshit crooked US courts.

    • Thanks: Kali
  115. scamDemic says:

    There is a measles vaccine, yet it kills 140,000 a year. There is a pneumococcus vaccine, yet it kills between 2 and 2.5 million a year. There is a hepatitis B vaccine, yet it kills 140,000. There is a tetanus vaccine, yet it kills 89,000 annual deaths. There is a rotavirus vaccine, yet it kills 800,000. There is a HPV vaccine, yet it kills 250,000. There is a tuberculosis vaccine, yet it kills 1.5 million. There is an influenza vaccine, yet it kills 650,000 to 1 million deaths a year. None of these are considered pandemics, cause entire economies to be shut down or, or call for any extraordinary measures at all.

    If you’d like to know who is responsible all this, please watch this video…

  116. SafeNow says:
    @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle

    Melinda’s problem now is that when she’s speed-dating, guys will get right to it, with “What business are you in?” She will say “foundations!” and the guys will lose interest because girdles are a thing of the past, who needs her financial problems.

  117. SafeNow says:

    “These are the entities we are supposed to place our trust in for our health?”

    No, not pharma. Not “elite” medical centers …they have been silent throughout, for fear of losing federal grants.

    Here’s a thought. New Zealand has just shut down Auckland for one week. Why? Because a single case emerged. One case. This will give them a week in which to trace and isolate the contacts of that case.

    New Zealand has vaccinated around 2% of its population. Seems they are not enamored of the vaccine. I am not the first person to suggest trusting New Zealand. There was a movement in Australia some time last summer to ask New Zealand to annex Australia and then tell Australia what to do.

    Read journal articles by non-US doctors. Place “ncbi” after your search terms, and real medical articles will pop up.

  118. Bobzilla says:
    @Mike Whitney

    Mr. Whitney,


    In the original article, the first paragraph reads differently than the one you posted. It read like this:

    Thanks for replying to my question. I believe you when you tell me they changed the text from the original (no need for me to doubt you). I simply wanted someone who understand these things better than I to clarify whether they were trying to tell us the spike proteins in the vaccine are harmless (even though the article document that the spike proteins cause damage and disease).

  119. Mark Hunter says: • Website

    I don’t like the vaccines either but Whitney should have quoted the following from the Salk article (emphasis added):

    Now, a major new study shows that the virus spike proteins (which behave very differently than those safely encoded by vaccines) also play a key role in the disease itself.

    Now the emphasized part is a bit confusing. As I understand it, the spike protein is not encoded in the vaccine, a mechanism is encoded that manufactures the spike protein. One would like to know how the authors know the resulting spike protein is safe, especially when the vaccine has indeed caused vascular problems.

  120. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Looking forward to your results after you have your two vaccines plus the boosters! Please repost the results!
    Bashing Christians is so unbecoming even for an atheist!
    Shows your fear of what could be that you don’t want to acknowledge!

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  121. Bobzilla says:

    This is not maybe a hundred people as we might have commenting here but literally thousands. One article I read recently and jumped into the fray on had almost 5000 similar comments, all reinforcing each other! It’s getting scary.

    Now you understand how it is that the majority of people will eagerly follow and worship the Anti-Christ.

  122. @Truth wins

    Twoof??!! I’d rather eat shit than have any ‘vaccine’, save, possibly, the Russian one, in an emergency. I respect true Christians, and dislike the frauds. Seems sensible to me.

  123. @Mark Hunter

    The emphasised piece was PLAINLY inserted by some BigPharma stooge, possibly at publishing time. The flat contradiction is typical of BigPharma intervention.

    • Replies: @Mark Hunter
  124. Mark Hunter says: • Website
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Whether it was inserted at the insistence of Pfizer et al, or out of fear of offending them, or some other reason, the authors of the Salk article went along with it.

    Anyway, my point is that Whitney should have addressed that part of the article.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  125. Compilation of nine articles about ways the Covid vaccines may damage tissues
    by Meryl nass, M.D.

    (Not posting this in Newslinks because due to lack of sufficient moderation that place is a sewer. I don’t go there anymore.)

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  126. Bobzilla says:
    @Mark Hunter


    I asked the exact same question as you have. Look at comment #75 (above). Mr Whitney replied to my question, see comment #84 (above). You might watch the video that Mr. Whitney posted in his reply. In particular at 4:25 in the video.

    • Replies: @Mark Hunter
  127. @Bobzilla

    I hadn’t read those posts, thanks for telling me. Wow — is all I can say.

  128. MaryLS says:

    I think the Catholic Church has also been hijacked — controlled by the globalists. The Church otherwise could have been a strong voice countering this destruction of humanity. Does anyone know if the Russian Orthodox Church has spoken against lockdowns and Covid vaccines?

  129. IreneAthena says: • Website

    Maybe. Maybe not.
    “You are my wife.”
    “GOODBYE, city life!”
    “Green Acres we are there!”

  130. MaryLS says:

    I am in the same boat — unable to share this alarming information with friends and relatives who are already vaccinated or see Covid vaccinations as the way to escape the current lockdown tyranny. Particularly shocking is that their numbers do include so many presumably intelligent people who in other respects can be independent thinkers. I think it is a weird kind of mass hysteria, and I don’t know what can be done about it. In their minds, you are the threat, because you are questioning the institutions that give them security — government, medicine, once trusted news sources, scientists and other “experts”. Putting trust in traditionally trustworthy entities is integral to their world view. I don’t blame them for bring scared, but where they are headed is even scarier. A dramatic wake-up call is needed. Something that cannot be ignored by the media.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  131. @lysias

    If that’s really the case, the anti-vaxxers (and other critics and iconoclasts) will keep gaining ground simply by waiting while the vaxxer population dwindles. Sure, the elite that were in on the scam will have taken fake vaccines for show, so they’ll survive… but a huge chunk of their fanbase and gullible fellow travelers will expire.

    They’re basically evening the odds for their enemy while provoking them into action. It’s nonsensical.

  132. @MaryLS

    And to those like you the vaccinated are the threat and they are the ones who are going to die. What’s the difference? Who is to say you are right and they are not? The majority of the medical establishment is on their side. Sure the medical establishment has at times shown to be wrong but more often not.

  133. geokat62 says:
    @John Tiger

    Also, why are you assuming that the people that nominated him are as naive as a 10 year old?


    I wasn’t assuming anything. I was merely expressing surprise that someone would be awarded a Peace Prize for his work on pharmaceuticals.


  134. @Mark Hunter

    One of which is the Salk publication. There are so far only a few comments beneath that blog post, but a couple already have addressed the altered Salk language

    Now, a major new study shows that the virus spike proteins (which behave very differently than those safely encoded by vaccines) also play a key role in the disease itself.

    we’re discussing here. However, they are (apparently) unaware that it has been altered.

    Monitoring that thread may prove interesting. Whether it remains uncontaminated by someone pointing out the alteration, it could itself be a worthwhile experiment in the efficacy of the alteration.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  135. @Mark Hunter

    Did they go along with it? Did they know? Were they pressured? It contradicts the findings with an utterly unsupported and highly dubious assertion that benefits the vaccine cultists. More reason to be very, very, suspicious.

    • Replies: @Comprehension Skills
  136. @Thomasina

    I fully agree with you! It is sepsis the body ends up with when the blood system can not get oxygen.

    • Thanks: Thomasina
  137. Kali [AKA "Unpersoned by fb"] says:

    “Are WE the chosen ones? Those of us who decline vax. ”

    Hi EmmDee.

    Maybe we are “the chosen ones”; a kind of unoffical control group for this massive experiment. That we essentially choose ourselves, through intelligent (not at all idiotic) observation and rational evaluation maybe skews the results of the experiment somewhat, especially if IQ is one of the variables the experimenters aren’t particularly interested in/examining.

    My own opinion is that this is about population reduction on one hand, and about social control on the other. The powers that be, in order to maintain their grip on (economic and political) power, need fewer “useless eaters” to police and maintain. And they need those who survive to be compliant, easily controled servants of the global totalitarian technocracy they envission.

    But if those of us who refuse to participate in their medical experiment/cull do so because we possess a certain level of above-average intelligence, and if because of this choice we become the natural survivors of the cull, then tptbwill have a much harder time imposing their neo-fudalist social order on us.

    But there are other characteristics that we need to cultivate and maintain besides intelligence if we’re to survive/thrive, such as determined non-compliance, self reliance, social and economic support structures, all of which, imo, are dependent on the imperative “know yourself”. For it is an eternal truth that one who knows himself/herself knows self-mastery and therefore cannot be mastered by another.

    We have to be capible of toughing it out, so to speak.

    For my part I actually began this jouney many years ago, and have been toughing it out outside of the system for very close to 10 years now. This has inevitably resulted in several civil court cases, and even one or two criminal cases being brough against me (and my husband/partner in “crime”).
    As tough as the jouney has been, on so many levels, the result is that now I am very well prepared to take whatever tptb might throw at me, and to counter any attack I may be subjected to. (Yeah, ‘go me’, she grimmaced through her current state of exhaution.)

    Enough about me! What WE need now is to secure our economic independance, i.e our ability to put food on the table, a roof over our heads and fuel in the fire. The Gift Economy, community and social support networks, skill-sharing, food-distribution networks, food production, garden sharing, alternative currencies (eg, LETS) for actually FREE markets (free of the banker/ corpratist/political mono-poles), natural health/healing, “alternative” therapies, good nutrition… All of these things ARE within our reach and are ours to develope and maintain, though non will come easy. Independace is hard work, but the benefits easily balance the equasion.
    And all that’s really needed to get the ball rolling is a printer and a ream of paper, and maybe an intial virual meeting place where local snitches/trolls/infiltrators may be weeded out. (A word of advise from one who know – no effort of the kind I describe can survive the onslaught of a massive ego. Weed out egotists or risk everything. No matter how brutal you have to be to do so! Seriously NOT kidding!)

    Which brings me to something I wrote a couple of weeks ago whichI hope might help:

    Ideal behaviours
    Enforced by ‘only just’ laws
    Enscribed to protect us
    From the wrose in us all.
    Did you yet look beyond
    The veil of those laws
    To the essence that dwells
    In your heart, by that door?
    Did you yet see the darkness
    As well as the light
    Did you yet understand
    You are equal parts day
    And equal parts night?
    Did you yet make the jouney
    To uncover yourself
    Beyond conformity insanity
    Or normative banality
    To existential clarity!
    Do you yet know yourself.

    Thank you for your question, EmmDee. You helped me regain my own focus after a particularly challenging week. We live through a most interesting time in human history. It seems clear now that we may never again see many treasured individulas we’ve had the honour of knowing, and we may prematurely loose others. A sad situation to be sure.
    But we also do have an opportunity to steer ourselves (the self-chosen) in a new direction, founded in love and respect for one another.

    Now I will go and enjoy the spring sunshine and remember to breathe.

    Wishing you well, and wishing you beauty in your day.

  138. @EmDee


    From what I understand, the vaccinated are more contagious than the non vaccinated and they are the recipient of potentially weird variants which could be far more dangerous than the mild thing we have experiment. The real depopulation thing would then start. I may be corrected…

    Stay strong, keep your sense of humour above all.

  139. MarkU says:

    But I certainly could be wrong.

    You are wrong.

    I think it vital that the control group is preserved and I am going to do everything I can to resist their machinations. The fewer of us there are the more important it is that we resist. From the outset I have opposed vaccination for everyone except the elderly and immune compromised. Am I honour bound to pretend that I don’t consider the majority to be gullible sheep for the sake of morale or something?

    All of our (non anonymous) postings on this website are still there to be examined including mine, feel free to look before jumping to insulting conclusions.

  140. Lamaha says:

    Vitamin D was the final straw for me, that broke the camel’s back of MSM. Up to then (late last year) I was more or less following the approved narrative, though I don’t think I’d ever have gone for the “vaccine” — I’m too much of a health-food nut.

    But when I found out about the vitamin d deficiency factor in ICU cases and deaths, and the very successful trials done in Spain, I couldn’t believe that governments and health organisms weren’t going all out to make sure we were all on high supplements and monitoring our levels. It seemed an obvious priority, especially for people of dark skin and the obese.

    The fact that they were ignoring it, and even disputing it, seemed so fishy to me, so absolutely criminal — lives could have been saved! — that I investigated further. Lucky for my my family — consisting of daughter, son, and son-in-law — were all on the right side of history and had been trying to convince me all along. I began my own supplementation, and was until recently on 12000 iu daily. A recent test told me that my level is now 185 nmol/L, which is just where I want it, so I’m down to a maintenance level of 4000 iu a day. With summer round the corner I’ll also be getting lots of sunshine.

    Back then, I tried to spread the word about Vitamin D on Facebook, but my 800 odd “friends” seemed curiously uninterested. Now most of them are virtue-signalling about their jabs, and lecturing everyone else to “get it for the sake of humanity otherwise you’re selfish”.

    I’m now better informed than ever, and I know that HCQ and ivermectine have been known cures all along, yet maligned and ignored. That really should be enough to prove bad faith behind the vaccine programme.

    What to do!

    • Agree: Mulga Mumblebrain
    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  141. @The Savvage

    Is, or is not, the Salk institute prestigious (inspiring respect and admiration) as M.W. claims in his first paragraph?
    You can’t have it both ways.

    As for rewriting history, that is what scientific exploration does.

  142. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Have you read the Salk Institute press release?
    Is, or is not, the Salk institute prestigious (inspiring respect and admiration) as M.W. claims in his first paragraph?
    You can’t have it both ways.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  143. @Comprehension Skills

    The point you’re still attempting to obscure is that the article has been surreptitiously altered.

    Please see – and, if you can – respond to my comment #91, above.

  144. TPS says:

    This Unz Review sensationalistic story attempting to mislead people by raising false fears about the CoViD vaccines is an excellent example of how to warp the truth to fit a pre-determined conclusion.

    For whatever reason, the author, Mike Whitney’s purpose in writing his article is to stoke unwarranted fear about the vaccine. He takes from the Salk INst. website an accurate, truthful summary of a published, peer-reviewed paper, and makes two glaring errors. Whitney stated that

    1. “Covid-19 is primarily a disease of the vascular system.”

    Not true. The paper concluded that vascular disease is an additional outcome of the viral infection, NOT the primary outcome. Furthermore, as stated in the Salk summary, this conclusion was not a surprise, and had been hinted at in quite a few studies over the last few months. We all know that many COViD sufferers have had damage to the heart and the circulatory system.

    But the most egregious error that Whitney promulgates is

    2. “An explosive new study by researchers at the prestigious Salk Institute casts doubt on the current crop of gene-based vaccines that may pose a grave risk to public health… [The paper] unavoidably raises questions about the new vaccines that contain billions of spike proteins that could greatly increase the chances of severe illness or death.”

    This is very important: The vaccine DOES NOT “contain billions of spike proteins.” The Salk summary itself stressed “Now, a major new study shows that the virus spike proteins (which behave very differently than those safely encoded by vaccines) also play a key role in the disease itself.”

    Notice that by omitting the bolded parenthetical above, which clearly and succinctly points out the difference between what’s in the vaccine and the actual spike proteins, Whitney completely obfuscates the issue in an attempt to stoke irrational fears. This is a terrible disservice to all of us who live in this country and in this world. This, in a nutshell, summarizes the dangers of trying to get your news from non-peer-reviewed sources (esp. the internet).

    The most obvious evidence refuting Whitney’s warnings that the vaccines cause “severe illness or death” is that the first vaccines were injected back in Dec., almost 5 months ago. At this point, more than 1.2 billion shots have been injected worldwide. If the vaccine really caused “severe illness or death,” don’t you think we’d know it by now?

    • Troll: Mulga Mumblebrain
  145. JasonT says:

    Read post #84 above.

  146. @TPS

    Another first timer, attempting to obscure the provenance of the Spike Parenthetical.

    How do you respond to my #91?

  147. Greg S. says:

    The vaccine DOES NOT “contain billions of spike proteins.

    Correct (except for Novavax). The vaccines tell your own body to produce the spike proteins. How many? I don’t think they know. For how long? I don’t think they know that either. Do YOU know “TPS” then do tell us please. So you are arguing semantics. The end result is always “lots” of spike proteins in the body.

    which behave very differently than those safely encoded by vaccines

    What is the original source of this statement? It is not a scientific or precise statement. In fact it’s almost certainly wrong. There is a ton of science out that says that people who catch wild SARS-COV2 get spike proteins in their body that get detached from the virus, and these proteins cause issues in those patients. A lot of people have died of SARS-COV2, there are the ‘long haulers,’ etc. It would be very foolish of a person to be wildly concerned about spike proteins in vaccines, but totally casual about the spike proteins in the actual virus itself.

    If the vaccine really caused “severe illness or death,” don’t you think we’d know it by now?

    We do know it. Every country that rolls out “jab” gets a death wave a result. Long term results, who knows? Also there is the perfect smokescreen as vaccine deaths get called covid deaths, and they NEVER, EVER disclose if a person who died of COVID was vaccinated.

  148. Thomasina says:

    Good advice, David. Obesity is certainly a large factor. Thanks.

  149. Kali [AKA "Unpersoned by fb"] says:


    1. You quibble at Mike Whiteys’ use of the word “primary” where he possibly ought to have used the word “secondary” or, better, “significant”, in an attempt to belittle his conclusions regarding the harms caused by the EXPERIMENTAL GENE THERAPY, not a “vaccine” as you so blithely and MISTAKENLY call it.

    2. You fail to take not of the fact, as already outlined in this discussion several times, that the “bolded paranthetical above” was a later edit, added to the report AFTER Mike had published this article.

    All in order to what? Reduce “vaccine hesitancy” amongst readers? To quell very real concerns regarding this global experiment in gene-editing technology which is already killing and otherwise harming people at an unpersidented rate. All for an alledged virus with a comparatively insignificat fatality rate, which impacts the very old and the already unwell, but from which the vast majority recover and achieve natural immunity.

    If it is you contention that this experimental jab, which induces the recipients body to produce the so-called “spike” protein of the alledged “SARS-cov2” virus is SAFE, then please do feel free to explain the astonishing increase in VAERS reports related to the experimental jab.

  150. Kali [AKA "Unpersoned by fb"] says:

    Dear Mike,

    At the risk of making a suggestion that you have possibly already considered, it may be wise to edit your article to highlight the edit made to the original report, and also to correct the mistake regarding induction (rather than injection) in the body of the spike protein, via the experimental jab.

    Kind regards.

    • Agree: Greta Handel
  151. @Greta Handel

    Update: Mr. Whitney’s observation (#84) about the provenance of the Spike Parenthetical has now been injected into the comments beneath the Nass post.

    Will some of this thread’s mop crew now hop over there, too?

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  152. Ron Unz vindicated, nearly a million died in the US from Covid-19:

    • Replies: @Cowboy
  153. bayviking says:

    What is the broader implication here? Is it that Trump’s “fast track” approach is another disaster in the making? No one in Government will ever own up to that.

  154. @Greta Handel

    Update #2: here’s the only further comment on the Nass site, noting that the Spike Parenthetical is dubious for its format alone:

    Thank you Anonymous for your research into the change of wording in the Salk article. The use of parentheses was my first tip-off, as it lacks professionalism. I suspected someone was covering their tail.

    How sad medicine is becoming a pseudoscience.

    Still waiting for a critic of Mr. Whitney to respond to my #91 here. Can the mop crew not find another complementary passage? Or are some being spliced in right now?

  155. @Commentator Mike

    Well, because this time the spike protein is a synthetic one, made in the lab?

  156. I myself have never seen so many reports of both minor and major side effects from a vaccine except for these Covid-19 vaccines.

    The Democrats are pushing these vaccines as a power play to see how much they can get away with because they are considering much more draconian rules in all spheres of politics and society.

    I predict arrests of the non-vaccinated. They will have their children taken away.

    The inconic face of Big Brother projected on the big screen is becoming reality with regular vaccination harangues by our sleepy, declining president on TV.

  157. Cowboy says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Gates-backed institute claims …

    Haha…douchehole links to propaganda

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  158. Parrus says:

    How can any study by the Salk Institute be trustworthy when Jonas Salk himself was a fraud? When his polio vaccine was injected into arms, polio cases exploded. The US public health authorities, corrupt then as they are now, fixed the problem by redefining polio.

    The following is from Janine Roberts’ 2004 article about polio which appeared in The Ecologist. It might still be available on the web if it hasn’t been memory-holed:

    “…However, despite these new regulations, four months later more than 2,000 cases of infantile paralysis were recorded in Boston, despite the vaccination of 130,000 children in the city. The previous year it had seen only 273 cases. The number of cases doubled in vaccinated New York State and Connecticut, and tripled in Vermont. They increased by five times in both Rhode Island and Wisconsin. Many were paralysed in the injected arm.

    It seemed that the vaccine would soon be totally discredited. So, to protect the President, Salk, the vaccine manufacturers and themselves from the humiliation of an unmitigated failure, the US health authorities had to dramatically slash the incidence of poliomyelitis. They managed this by simply changing the way they recorded the incidents of poliomyelitis. It worked like this:

    Prior to 1956, the authorities recorded a patient as having paralytic polio (infantile paralysis) if they suffered from paralytic symptoms for 24 hours. After 1956 patients had to have these paralytic symptoms for at least 60 days to be counted as having polio. As many people recovered within 60 days, this measure alone dramatically cut the official number of cases. This `drop’ in polio cases was publicly credited to the vaccine. Furthermore, all cases of polio occurring within 30 days of vaccination (such as the first 200 cases that had so alarmed the White House) were in future not to be blamed on the vaccine but to be recorded as `pre-existing’.

    But Salk continued to worry. Despite its regulatory and statistical `success’, the reputation of his vaccine was plummeting. In June 1955 the British doctors’ union the Medical Practitioners’ Union wrote: `These misfortunes would be almost endurable if a whole new generation were to be rendered permanently immune to the disease. In fact, there is no evidence that any lasting immunity is achieved.’ (21)

    The following month Canada suspended its distribution of Salk’s vaccine. By November all European countries had suspended distribution plans, apart from Denmark. By January 1957 17 US states had stopped distributing the vaccine. The same year The New York Times reported that nearly 50 per cent of cases of infantile paralysis in children between the ages of five and 14 had occurred after vaccination.

    So, more regulatory and statistical changes were needed in order to give the polio vaccine the appearance of a triumph of modern medicine. What better way to achieve this than to reclassify all the cases of polio into numerous other diseases resulting in a massive reduction in polio cases, and a host of other diseases to attract funding. And this is exactly what they did.

    Prior to 1958 the definition of infantile paralysis (polio) included cases in which paralysis was minimal: perhaps manifesting itself as a very stiff neck, often accompanied by widespread pain. Polio also included cases of `meningitis’, or of inflammation of the membrane that protects the brain and spinal neurons. The CDC describes such cases as `serious but rarely fatal’.(22) Prior to 1958 these cases were scientifically referred to as `non-paralytic poliomyelitis’, or polio for short. Henceforward, they would be reclassified.

    The Los Angeles County health authorities stated: `Most cases reported prior to July 1 1958 of non-paralytic poliomyelitis are now reported as viral or aseptic meningitis.’ The incidence of meningitis soared as official polio cases declined, as the following table (compiled from national surveillance reports)shows.

    Non-paralytic polio cases.
    1951-1960 70,083
    1961-1982 589
    1983-1992 0

    Aseptic meningitis cases.
    1951-1960 0
    1961-1982 102,999
    1983-1992 117,366

    Jim West, Images of Poliomyelitis

    These classifications are still used today. Last year the US National Center for Infectious Diseases reported no cases of poliomyelitis but 30,000 to 50,000 cases of aseptic meningitis requiring hospitalisation. There are probably several times this number of incidents of aseptic meningitis that did not require hospitalisation, but statistics are no longer kept for such cases.

    Then another scam was enacted to massage down the poliomyelitis figures. It took advantage of the 1951 discovery that different viruses could be present in cases of infantile paralysis. Prior to 1958 this did not matter. A doctor diagnosed a person with polio by taking note of their evident symptoms. They did not investigate to see if the poliovirus were present. In 1958 a new regulation was put in place requiring doctors to only register a patient as having polio if the poliovirus were present, something that was very difficult to establish for sure. For a start, it was impossible to tell by looking at symptoms. The Textbook of Child Neurology reported: `Coxsackie virus and echoviruses can cause paralytic syndromes that are clinically indistinguishable from paralytic poliomyelitis.’ This new requirement for doctors caused a vast drop in the number of cases registered as poliomyelitis – a drop that ever since has been credited solely to the vaccine.

    So, when patients diagnosed as having polio in a 1958 epidemic in Detroit were re-tested as required by this new rule, 49 per cent were found to have no poliovirus. They had to be reclassified as having `non-poliomyelitis acute flaccid paralysis’ even though they were suffering from symptoms identical to poliomyelitis with the same paralysis and the same pain. Other polio cases were reclassified as `Guillian-Barré syndrome’, which some researchers now think is what crippled Roosevelt. Yet more cases are now referred to as `Hand, Foot and Mouth Disease’, which can also cause paralysis. And last year the Coxsackie virus was found in cases of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS), which sometimes shows polio-like symptoms of muscle damage; in the past CFS might have been classified as a form of polio.

    If this process of reclassification had not occurred, it would have been impossible to hide the fact that infantile paralysis cases had sharply increased after the introduction of Salk’s vaccine. Without the Coxsackie and aseptic meningitis reclassifications, for example, the number of reported cases of paralytic polio would have doubled from 2,500 in 1957 to 5,000 in 1959. (23)

    This deliberate fraud did not go entirely unnoticed, however. Dr Bernard Greenberg, the then head of the Department of Biostatistics at the University of North Carolina, testified at a 1962 Congressional hearing that infantile paralysis cases had increased after the introduction of the vaccine by 50 per cent from 1957 to 1958, and by 80 per cent from 1958 to 1959. He concluded that US health officials had manipulated the statistics to give entirely the opposite impression. (24)”

    • Replies: @meeeeeeeeeee
  159. Rubicon says:
    @Brás Cubas

    We do not and will not trust anything by the NYT especially in relating what the Chinese vaccine may or may not contain, nor how it was produced.
    Ditto with NYT’s piece on Astra Zeneca.

    Many have caught on to the NYT’s lies and corrupt habits.

  160. Anon[378] • Disclaimer says:

    And, as yet, no vaccine against this alleged virus that consists of “deactivated whole virus” exists, does it? Arent’s all so-called Covid-19 vaccines currently uised mRNA or DNA vaccines that do the same thing in slightly different ways, infiltrating some of our cells ( which cells, how many cells, for how long?) to manufacture protein spikes which mimic those of the SARS-CoV-2 virus programming our immune system to recognize them as invaders? My question has been why? Why do these vaccines have to be of this type?

    • Replies: @Stephane
  161. The following is more an honest question than anything:

    The first paragraph of the Salk Institute article included a link to an article to point out that the spike protein used in the research study is different from that “safely encoded in the vaccines”:

    This article seems to assert that the spike protein poses little danger when expressed in vaccinations.

    So what are we to make of all this? Will the spike protein introduced by the vaccines likely, if not definitively yet until proven otherwise, to pose danger or not?

    Can anyone who knows more about spike protein as expressed in vaccines offer an opinion?

    • Replies: @JasonT
  162. JasonT says:

    If the chemical cocktail expresses the same protein as the ‘virus’, the protein will have the same effect in the body, which is bad. If the chemical cocktail does not express the same protein as the ‘virus’ then the chemical cocktail does not elicit an antibody response specific to the protein of the ‘virus’, which is also bad. Either way, the chemical cocktail is bad.

  163. @Cowboy

    There’s a lot of Gates linked institutes. The entire WHO is Gates linked. Should we question everything that comes out of it? I don’t know, just asking. I’m sure I could find something truthful in their pages.

    • Replies: @Cowboy
  164. @Lamaha

    The Medical Mafias’ opposition to HCQ and ivermectin to the point of threats of legal action against doctors is flat out EVIL, and it makes the fanatic drive to impose mRNA ‘vaccines’ truly sinister. When a local *University proved ivermectin’s efficacy in vitro against the virus, last April, it was attacked by one local propagandist as ‘sheep dip’. A drug given to humans in 3.7 billion doses over the years, and so successful that it won its discoverers’ a Nobel Prize, reduced by this slime to ‘sheep dip’, which it also is in veterinary preparations.

  165. @Greta Handel

    You are not good at spotting propaganda. You don’t even know when you are spouting it.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  166. HbutnotG says:

    COVID is a coronavirus that has the ability to induce interstitial pneumonitis. That is what DIRECTLY leads to pulmonary failure, which is what these people die from. I suspect that it occurs to some degree in everybody who gets a successful COVID infection (hence, the characteristic dry hacky cough). It is a pathologic feature that among viruses, is unique to coronaviruses. This can be fatal in someone with limited cardiopulmonary reserve (that’s probably why old people are most likely to die from it but that is not the only possible reason for the high fatality with advanced age – see below).

    The vascular stuff they blab about is simply them parroting material from several papers published in the past year or so of autopsies performed on patients who underwent pulmonary failure and died, but were nonetheless, kept alive long enough for full blown DIC and other agonal pathologies associated with total body failure to develop. These pathologies are non-specific – can be seen in patients dying from cancer, myocardial infarctions, almost anything and likely have nothing specifically to do with COVID, itself. I have not read anything that specifically finds and proves that COVID directly attacks blood vessels.

    It is possible (but to my knowledge not actually looked at) that a very similar virus circulated around or before 1940, and those exposed to it then, this time mounted a vigorous inflammatory response to this variant, resulting in the so-called “cytokine storm” (seen serologically) in which case IMO vaccines are not recommended. Interstitial pneumonitis (which, fyi, is NOT pneumonia) is fueled by an imflammatory reaction involving the interalveolar part of the lung. Which is probably why, if administered early enough in the process, hydroxychloroquine (an immune suppressant with rather non-specific activity) was successful (they never specify when in the process the patient received that drug, hence they don’t really establish whether it actually worked or not).

    But HCQ is not a \$ bonanza for big-pharma so that idea was misreported, I presume, with the intent of canning it right from the start. Big pharma does not take the Hippocratic oath.

    This comes from a board certified anatomic and clinical pathologist who passed both parts of the boards the first time through (about 50% managed that in those days) and, subsequently did over 1200 medical autopsies in their 25 yr career. Diffuse lung diseases was one of my fortes, btw. I will take any of these clowns on head to head, face to face including grampa Fauci.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  167. @HbutnotG

    HCQ was reported, widely, as effective when given early, before sero-conversion to CoViD19 disease or post-exposure or prophylactically. Given late, ie after hospitalisation, it has been less effective. However, ivermectin has proven highly effective at all stages, even on patients in ITUs. Did you see the reports of SARS CoV2 attacking the vascular endothelium, causing an excess secretion of Von Willebrand’s Factor, hence the emboli, then, when the reserves of VWF were exhausted, causing a rebound tendency to haemorrhage?

    • Replies: @HbutnotG
  168. Cowboy says:
    @Commentator Mike

    I’m sure I could find something truthful in their pages.

    Sprinkle a couple of truthful statements. Pretend that your paycheck doesn’t depend on finding a particular agenda. Be sure to use some affective language and/or antidotes. Appeal to authority and make dogmatic claims about that authority. RU made a comment some months back regarding his methodology and not surprisingly this was his MO.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  169. HbutnotG says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Those vascular endothelial things are just manifestations of DIC which is an agonal event which can occur with a lot of fatal diseases. Focus on big words applied to something you see “under high mag” and people forget about the wider scope – i.e., it’s a person in the throes of death with DIC. Yes I’ve read many of those articles. My first year beginning residents do stuff just like that a lot. They eventually get it.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  170. The new research paper is the equivalent of a hydrogen bomb. It changes everything…


    You wrote that a week ago. Is this the slow-acting, time-release hydrogen bomb?

    And the hydrogen bomb did not really change a whole lot. The original, plain-vanilla atom bomb was where the change was. Jus sayin

  171. @Cowboy

    I don’t much trust authority but then how wise is getting your information from conspiracy sites ran by amateurs and paranoids? Sure I read those too and there could be some truth in them but I’m also skeptical of a lot their stuff. It’s like people who dismiss wikipedia even though there is far more reliable information written by experts there than on some fringe sites. And even the CIA site has useful reliable information about certain topics. So which source can you fully trust?

  172. Stephane says:

    There is AFAIK chinese vaccine based on desactivated COVID. Here is a link about the 4 current families of COVID vaccines and who use which :

    The mRNA vaccine were the first tested, and thus the first to be available in significant quantities because they are faster to adapt once you got the basics right.

    Once you have mastered the formulation and production of the lipid enveloppe that protects the mRNA and carries it inside the cells, you can quickly reformulate them to make a different protein by changing the mRNA strand carried.

    And the production process is faster to set up, because it is more like chemistry than biology, you don’t need cell cultures.

    But conservation is more problematic, as mRNA is much less stable than DNA and need ultra-cold fridges for long-term conservation, leading to logistical issues.

  173. @Parrus

    Yes, the same thing happened in Britain during the WW1 era. GB Shaw was on some health committee in London, he said they would redefine cases of smallpox, caused by that vaccine, or experienced by people who’d received the vaccine, as “anything but smallpox.” See McBean, THE POISONED NEEDLE.

    • Replies: @Parrus
  174. Parrus says:

    The same GB Shaw who wrote The Doctor’s Dilemma and its preface, which talked critically about the conflicts of interest of doctors? Very disillusioning if he participated in the smallpox vaccine fraud. Are you sure it was Shaw who did this?

  175. @Johnny Rico

    And no thanks to all who are disabling good faith discussion.

    Johnny, many of your random, insubstantial comments come across as those of a mean drunk. If you just want to fight, try the bar down the street.

  176. Cratylus says:

    This is a nonsensical article which misinterprets the finding of the Salk study.
    The spike protein may well be part of the disease process BUT the mRNA vaccines produce the spike protein TRANSIENTLY, quite enough to inform the immune system that it is to be recognized as a foreign protein and then it is no longer produced.
    Error number one for ol’ Mike Whitney.

    Then there is no indication that the protein alone can produce serious disease in humans with the added parts of the virus which ensure the continued replication of spike and virus.
    Error number two for ol’ Mike Whitney.

    Whitney is among the army of web denizens who will write anything for click bait – consciously or unconsciously. These people, along with the anti-vaxxers, anti-maskers and pols and public health officials who do not level with the public in good time have blood on their hands. They come from left and right and know little if anything about science but this does not deter them.

    One thing the pandemic has shown us is that all too many people on all parts of the political spectrum
    let their ideology, prejudices and desire for attention interfere with scientific judgement. It also demonstrates once again the depth of scientific illiteracy in this and many other societies.


    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  177. @Cratylus

    Why do you think the Spike Parenthetical was injected into the Salk publication? See above.

  178. kldy5577 says:

    I completely agree with all that you have said.

  179. @HbutnotG

    There are way too many BigPharma trolls spewing dinifo, in my opinion, Crapylus.

  180. The vaccine is an intramuscular injection, NOT injected into the vein (blood stream). Very little if any spike proteins circulate beyond your muscle once they start getting made:

    If you are concerned about the spike protein you really don’t want to get Sars-Cov-2 which will actually result in billions of circulating spike proteins, including in the many veins in your lungs.

    • Replies: @JasonT
    , @LysineDefender
  181. JasonT says:

    LOL. I suggest you read up on intramuscular injections.

  182. @Cranberries

    Cranberry and others should be aware that when interleukins build up, such as when an attack of foreign proteins is detected by cell receptors, and this attack is sustained for some days, transposons are expressed. These special molecular tools transcribe viral RNA into DNA and insert segments of it into the human genome. The human genome of some 3 billion base pairs currently contains between 10 and 14% viral genetic information, stolen and saved from prior viral attacks which were survived. These transposons then cut, sort, and paste portions of the attacking virus genetic information with snippets of previously known successful antibodies. Scrambling the genome in this manner, when transcribed into mRNA and translated into new proteins, allows for the creation of entirely new antibodies, some of which might be compatible with and thus useful in developing a defense against the new pathogen (most will be useless junk and quickly destroyed).
    So Cranberry, saying that the virus has no way of doing this is a bitter half truth. Retroviruses such as hepatitus and AIDS actually have the reverse transcriptase genes in their repertoir, but corona viruses, with their short 30,000 base pair genome, do not. Instead they, and the jab makers, rely on sustaining an antibody flood long enough to get the cell to activate its transposon CRISPR tools out and integrate the viral genetic data for its own benefit. Reverse transcriptase was evolved some 250 million years ago, as a cellular defense against viruses. That battle has been fought to a draw ever since.
    The Pirbright Patent, which used genetic manipulation to create a GMO coronavirus to use as a vaccine for chickens, against Mareks Disease, mentions that the inventors use psuedouracil as a cap on the RNA strand, to prevent the cell from recognizing it as foreign and destroying it. They also claim that they can add a telomere tail to the RNA. Normal cell function uses gene expression proteins as primers to get specific segments of DNA transcribed to RNA, which then moves to the Rough Endoplasmic Reticulum where it is translated into the product protein. The protein is transported to the Golgi Apparatus, where it is packaged in a lipid vesicle and shipped to its intended destination in the cell. The RNA is dismantled and the components returned to the nucleus. The cell never uses telomere tails on RNA, but the Pirbright researchers found that psuedouracil would confuse the ribosomes into translating the RNA, and once started and finding a telomere tail at the end, would cut off the last adenosine and return to copy the entire RNA strand again and again, continuing the process until the tail is eliminated, which the patent suggests would be 200 unit tail. Rough guess based on the translation process suggests this might take 14 to 28 days, certainly long enough for the cells to trigger transposon activity. This is why Moderna admits their concoction is gene therapy; it is intended to modify your genetic makeup. Whether their current jab or the next jab edition they bring out, ‘for the mutations,’ contains the primer that turns on expression of that now incorporated spike protein gene is currently unknown. It is likely that the jab makers used CRISPR techniques to insert a promoter segment which matches one of the promoters the live virus uses to trigger translation of the original viral genome. Thus vaxxees would start making additional copies of the spike when challenged by the live virus, such as during next falls flu season. The Salk report makes clear that what starts as a respiratory virus, as contagious as the common cold, once established, turns into a vascular disease. This is due to two angles of attack: ACE2 receptors on the blood vessel walls are approached by the spike, which blocks conversion of ACE2 to ACE1.7, which effect raises blood pressure, blocks SOD production, unbalances the cells oxidation potential, and thus damages the mitochondria. The cell so attacked sends a distress signal which triggers more antigen production, and eventually that cell is identified as having been subverted, and is killed by your immune system. This weakens the blood vessels, causing internal hemorrhages. The spike also attaches to CD147 receptors on red blood cells. These attacked cells send out a signal which initiates fibrinogenisis, which causes red blood cells to clump together. Enough cells emitting fibrin creates a clot, which is pumped around the vascular system until it gets big enough to get stuck in a small capillary. This causes sepsis as the downstream area is now starved of oxygen and nutrients. If this occurs in the brain its a stroke, if elsewhere in the nervous system its peripheral neuropathy, and if within the heart (which has lots of ACE2 receptors, its a heart attack. The vascular attack can cause lethal damage anywhere in the body.
    You mention autoimmunity, and there is potential for several forms of that to occur. The worst is that the spike protein contains a copy of syncytin-1, which is critical to formation of the placenta. Should autoimmunity to syncytin-1 occur the woman is now immune to pregnancy, for her lifetime, not reversible.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  183. @GunnyBrown

    Gunny, you need to think critically about your opening statement. Why do vaccinated pregnant women almost immediately miscarry? Those muscles in your shoulder are served by the vascular and lymph systems, and produced or injected spike protein moves into the blood stream within minutes, and have circulated throughout your entire body within ten minutes. This is why the jabbers encourage you to wait 15 minutes within easy reach of emergency services in case you suffer anaphylactic shock when the full load of foreign pathogen hits your immune system.

    Actually, you do want to get COVID19, as the impact will be trivial if your immune system is not severely compromised, and it can be completely cured within days by several cheap drugs, the best being nebulized hydrogen peroxide. But you want your immune system to recognize the current form of the virus, which will provide lifetime immunity to this form, and will give you a head start on defeating the next mutation Gates and Fauci send out.

  184. @LysineDefender

    Your comment, which I read twice, is impressive in its detail, but obscure (to me, at least) in its conclusions.

    Who, if anyone, do you believe should now be using which, if any, products of “the jab makers”? Your use of that term and subsequent comment suggest “nobody,” but I want to confirm.

    Again, thanks to all here enabling good faith discussion.

  185. @Greta Handel
    My response to Cranberry was intended to clarify the actual workings of the jab in initiating the process of inserting the corona virus gene into the human genome. Moderna admits that this process is used for all their anti-cancer gene therapies, which used to be their main line of research, until this modified influenza plandemic opened the public purse for them.

    What would be the purpose of modifying the human genome with corona virus coding? I do not know, but I tend to have more faith in our immune system than a bunch of criminal grifters intent on playing God, or attempting to decimate the human population, or capture the world economic system through manipulation of the sick care system and subsequent justification for medical tyranny. An invisible and contagious deadly virus inverts the sovereign citizen over government paradigm into you are an assumed bioweapon who must surrender all your rights to protect the borg. No one needs a vaccine for defense against a simple respiratory virus, even one modified by mad scientists to make it more lethal, when adequate vitamin D and zinc levels will allow your immune system to stop it quickly. Corona viruses are easy to cure.

    The effort expended by Big Tech/Big Media to deplatform hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin should convince you that the ‘vaccinate the world’ meme is not about public health. The AMA revoked medical licenses of doctors who dared treat the simple respiratory virus, demanding that said doctors refuse to treat the respiratory virus, instead waiting until the virus moved from the epithelial cells of the lungs into the vascular system, after which treatment is much more difficult and expensive, and many more deaths occurred. This supported the meme that ‘there is no cure,’ a necessary pretense to obtain the EUA for the gene therapy jabs (not a vaccine). This all fits a narrative that everyone needs gene therapy for defense against the common cold, which is medical malpractice at the ‘crimes against humanity’ level.

    The Pirbright Patent extolled the value of coronaviruses as vehicles for vaccines. Human immune responses have evolved for millions of years, successfully defending the race against thousands of viruses; you likely have 70,000 viruses right now, but your immune system keeps them in check. See Prof Racaniello’s Virology 2021 series on Youtube; he posts his actual class lectures every year.

    You deduced correctly that I have no respect for the jab makers, or for allopathic medicine in general, as they are engaged in a business model that relies on and helps extend sickness by focusing on treating symptoms. I call that sick care, and encourage everyone to avoid it by learning how to manage your own health status. I recommend that no one take the jab, and that those who are instigating this fraud be tried and convicted of crimes against humanity.

    • Thanks: Greta Handel
    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  186. @LysineDefender

    .. engaged in a business model that relies on and helps extend sickness by focusing on treating symptoms.

    The other term that seems to have infected the practice of medicine is “syndrome,” in lieu of “sickness,” “illness,” or “disease.” Thus, in the industry you describe, there is only perpetual “treatment,” never a cure.

    Again, thank you for answering my questions and providing additional information.

  187. The conclusions drawn in the actual Salk study appear to be the opposite of this artcicle’s conclusion.

    From “Now, a major new study shows that the virus spike proteins (which behave very differently than those safely encoded by vaccines) also play a key role in the disease itself.” This statement is in the first paragraph of the Salk News report.

    And from , which presents the actual paper, the last sentence states “This conclusion suggests that vaccination-generated antibody and/or exogenous antibody against S protein not only protects the host from SARS-CoV-2 infectivity but also inhibits S protein-imposed endothelial injury.” So, it’s saying the vaccine is protective. It’s not saying the vaccine’s spike protein is dangerous.

    So, the Salk study is saying that the spike protein of the virus itself, alone can cause the vascular disease, but NOT the spike protein from the vaccine.

    • Replies: @Cest Lavie
    , @Speak2Truth
  188. @Cest Lavie

    Here’s another thought on the Salk study. Is it possible the conclusion stating the vaccine’s spike protein is unfounded? The study focused not on vaccines, but on psuedo-virus spike proteins. Wouldn’t this limited focus actually leave the question unanswered as to whether the vaccine’s spike protein created from its mRNA code is safe compared to the virus born spike protein? The study was funded in part by China, so is there an agenda that China wants to promote the vaccines too?

    • Replies: @malfesieance
  189. youtube removed the video

  190. If VAXXED people are producing COVID Spike proteins that can be transmitted by social contacts (family, friends, all others) are UNVAXXED people only at risk of becoming exposed to COVID19 virus or at a greater risk of becoming spike protein producers?

  191. Anonymous[815] • Disclaimer says:

    I read your comment, just wanted to applaud you for your efforts to reach your loved ones. Not that you need a stranger’s approval. Well, I guess I’ll just say it, would you consider ‘getting saved’? You might be already, but what I mean by that is do you know Jesus. Jesus of the Bible. He died on our behalf, taking all our sins upon his own body, so that we might go to heaven and be with God the Father. I would ask you to please get a King James Bible and read it. It will tell you everything. God bless you. Ariel

  192. And how many people will be begging for government-provided health care to deal with the effects of these vaccines that they will not have money to afford on their own for lack of a job due to the Left’s lockdowns?


    What a way to create a globalized health management system. Humans are like wild hogs being lured into a pen to become livestock.

  193. @Cest Lavie

    I don’t personally know anyone who has died of Covid 19. I do know three people who had serious after effects related to arterial damage and blood clots after their second vaccine shot. One had a stroke and is struggling to recover, another died fairly quickly the next day and the third died after three days of screaming in agony.

    I distrust the official story that the vaccines are safe. Clearly, there is something bad happening to a lot of people that the folks who want us to get the vaccines don’t want us to think about.

  194. And now CDC has changed the rules on reporting adverse events of those who were injected. The reporting rules for those not injected remain the same. This results in less reported adverse reactions for those vaxxed and more reported COVID cases for those non-vaxxed.

    From …….

    As of May 1, 2021, CDC transitioned from monitoring all reported vaccine breakthrough cases to focus on identifying and investigating only hospitalized or fatal cases due to any cause. This shift will help maximize the quality of the data collected on cases of greatest clinical and public health importance. Previous case counts, which were last updated on April 26, 2021, are available for reference only and will not be updated moving forward.

    Just like that, being asymptomatic – or having only minor symptoms – will no longer count as a “Covid case” but only if you’ve been vaccinated.

    The CDC has put new policies in place which effectively created a tiered system of diagnosis. Meaning, from now on, unvaccinated people will find it much easier to be diagnosed with Covid19 than vaccinated people.


    Person A has not been vaccinated. They test positive for Covid using a PCR test at 40 cycles and, despite having no symptoms, they are officially a “covid case”.

    Person B has been vaccinated. They test positive at 28 cycles, and spend six weeks bedridden with a high fever. Because they never went into a hospital and didn’t die they are NOT a Covid case.

    Person C, who was also vaccinated, did die. After weeks in hospital with a high fever and respiratory problems. Only their positive PCR test was 29 cycles, so they’re not officially a Covid case either.

    The CDC is demonstrating the beauty of having a “disease” that can appear or disappear depending on how you measure it.

    To be clear: If these new policies had been the global approach to “Covid” since December 2019, there would never have been a pandemic at all.

    If you apply them only to the vaccinated, but keep the old rules for the unvaccinated, the only possible result can be that the official records show “Covid” is much more prevalent among the latter than the former.

    This is a policy designed to continuously inflate one number, and systematically minimise the other.

    What is that if not an obvious and deliberate act of deception?

  195. Andie J says:
    @Brás Cubas

    My understanding is the mRNA vaccines do not contain any virus material. Instead they contain genetic instructions for the cells to replicate the spike protein, in hopes of causing the creation of antibodies. Untold numbers of these artificial spike proteins could be cranking out in the body, as the question has been raised as to whether there is also instructions for the cells to stop the spike protein production. The implications are quite scary. Dr. Sherri Tenpenny has discussed these processes in several of her interviews.

  196. C-Purrs says:

    It’s gone from Youtube. There are many other video platforms, but they put the video only on Youtube? How about Rumble, Bitchute or Brighteon, none of which censor narratives with which they disagree???

  197. C-Purrs says:

    These mRNA injections are NOT vaccines per the constant definition of the word “vaccine”. They are “Experimental Biological Gene Therapy”. Vaccines DO contain a minute amount of the virus or a “dead” form of the virus. These “jabs” do not. The abuse of the word “vaccine” correlates to the abuse of the word “case”, the latter medically meaning someone who has symptoms of a specific illness, NOT that the person is simply “positive”, especially since the PCR test was never meant to be a diagnostic test, per its inventor, and has a false positive rate of up to 95% because, when the “test” is abused and used improperly, which ALL of the labs are doing, it will detect minute virus particles that are irrelevant or dead.

    That is why this whole planned power grab, indoctrination of the public, especially the young, with hatred towards the greatest country on earth and implantation of the socialist mentality, and never-seen-before elimination of our basic rights…..errrrr, I mean “crisis” was a sham from the start. There was no reason for this virus to have been acknowledged by doctors, politicians, media or the public any more than the usual seasonal flu, the latter having “vanished” these last 15 months. Amazing, huh?

    NEVER in the history of the world have the healthy been imprisoned for a virus that affects mostly those who are elderly and/or have 3+ serious co-morbidities – obesity being the main factor – and NOT those under 70 years old who have an over 99.9% chance of overcoming the virus without medical intervention, something the CDC and lying Fauci had to have known since around April 2020 because other doctors did but were immediately derided, cancelled and punished because it did not agree with the agenda of massive control of the masses – you and me.

    What disgusts me most, and it isn’t the behavior of the government, is how easily people relinquished their basic rights of life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, and the right to freedom of religion and speech, plus the willingness to abuse and risk the health of their children by forced masking, and complied like sheep, all the while maintaining purposeful ignorance! Since when has a tax hike that is stated as “temporary” ever been so? What makes anyone think that that the abuse we have endured through our dictators…..errrrr “leaders” will ever not continue to occur or will not occur again, perhaps even more brutally? Ignorance is curable.

    I am nobody, but I know more than 99% of people because I read everything and have been doing so since May 2020. I don’t watch CNN, MSNBC, or any other mainstream media, nor get my news from social media or big tech, nor trust those who have not suffered one iota from all this, such as politicians, the media, corporations, big pharma and the filthy rich, since NONE of them LOST THEIR PAYCHECK OR POWER – look up the HUGE increase in the bottom line of the corporations including Amazon, Walmart, Pfizer, etc.

    Who has suffered most? The middle class, small business and our children – ALL of which the current administration and its cohorts want to eliminate. When they say “Jump”, we ask “How high?”, and all the while they have a wicked smile on their faces.

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  198. @Getaclue

    This was very interesting. I have not heardof the Garanbandal event. Ty.

  199. read says:

    funny how these “dooms day” articles pick and choose from the actual report on the Salk website.

    I would think that the following from Salk’s news release is quite relevant, unless you want to spread “fear” I suppose.

    I am referring to this important piece conveniently omitted here and on Dr. Tenpennies worth of medical advice’s website.

    “Now, a major new study shows that the virus spike proteins (which behave very differently than those safely encoded by vaccines) also play a key role in the disease itself.”

    The article is solely focused on the spike protein caused by COVID, not the “safely encoded by vaccines”, but of course the above article above and Dr. Tenpennies don’t want you to catch on to that fact.

    My favorite from the above article “The new research paper is the equivalent of a hydrogen bomb.”


  200. read says:

    your first 3 paragraphs have quite a bit of information. It is not very difficult to rant, you provide no evidence to support the claims made. The bottom line, there is no credibility to any of it.
    The only indoctrination here appears to be you not believing young otherwise healthy people can die from COVID. All those deaths in NYC a year ago? right, fake news, of course. Get your head out of the sand, or should I say your dark basement perhaps?

  201. Knowing says:

    I am an RN and, yes, with sepsis the blood vessels become like a soaker hose and the fluid and components that blood is comprised of leak out of the vessels thus dropping the blood pressure which is what the spike proteins cause as well. The organs don’t get enough blood flow and once one fails the other follow suit.

    The vessels are lined with endothelium cells and these get damaged by the spine proteins. In addition these horrible proteins congest and clog the system which results in heart attacks by clotting the arteries that provide the heart muscle with oxygenated blood; clots may form in the brain, organs, sinuses, anywhere, causing severe damage.

  202. llcoolv says:

    Please respond to the last sentence in the study you referenced:

    “This conclusion suggests that vaccination-generated antibody and/or exogenous antibody against S protein not only protects the host from SARS-CoV-2 infectivity but also inhibits S protein-imposed endothelial injury.”

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