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One hypothesis about the Anglo-Saxon world is that Britain 1.0 has been superseded by Britain 2.0, such that the latter gets updated first, and the former always lags behind, under threat of being discontinued. As a consequence, the US fashions in race relations have late echoes in the UK. Here are two little stories about two British institutions, one from the entertainment world, and one from a professional society.

The British Academy of Film and TV (BAFTA) gives awards each year, a British version of the Oscars. I declare a lack of interest. I admit that I visited their theatre in 1990 when Peter Greenaway was premiering “A TV Dante”, and in the lobby saw Sir John Gielgud, but did not feel it right to say that we had both been in the film together, given that the importance of our roles differed somewhat. I had known about Greenaway before he started film-making, and subsequently over a long lunch talked about making a film about him and his psychological motivations, which never progressed. In 2014 Greenaway got the Award for Outstanding British Contribution to Cinema, by which time he had made over 90 films, of which his 1982 “The Draughtman’s Contract” is probably the best known.

In April 2021 Noel Clarke, actor, screen writer and director won that same award, and then had it cancelled. It emerged that, after he had been nominated, BAFTA had received allegations of sexual misconduct, but said they did not act on them because they were third party accounts. After he had been given the award, The Guardian newspaper published 20 first-hand allegations, at which point his award was withdrawn by BAFTA. The serial in which he was the main actor, and which was just about to show the final episode, was also cancelled. This is a curious process, because no legal process has begun, let alone a trial. If suspicion is now judged enough to cancel an award, then those aspersions had already been cast before the award was given, and it could have been shelved until further enquiries had been made. Now the denunciations have been made about bullying and taking sexual advantage, and it is being described as something which was generally known in the business, and thus sufficient to be regarded as a closed case.

The presumption of innocence has gone by the board. Anyone accused of sexual misconduct and named in public is now a target for allegations, which may include a band-waggon effect, in which behaviours of marginal significance become toxic by agglomeration. If it ever comes to trial, we shall be able to judge, but at the moment Noel Clarke has been cancelled after sentence by allegation.

Now to an interesting matter: by what criteria do film makers get an award for outstanding contribution to cinema? I assume there is some yardstick. Looking back at former winners, most seem to have produced, directed or acted in many films, but not all reach the Greenaway standard. It is possible that a new requirement emerged this year.

At the 2nd February 2020 Award ceremony, Prince William, Duke of Cambridge, chairman of Bafta bemoaned the lack of racial minorities. It “simply cannot be right in this day and age” that film awards have all-white shortlists.” Speaking at the Baftas, the Duke said it was unacceptable for voters to overlook black and ethnic minority talent.

The committee must have got the message, because the number of minority nominees in 2021 increased such that “The Bafta Film Awards have unveiled a highly diverse nominations list, with 16 of the 24 acting nominees this year coming from ethnic minority groups.” Noel Clarke was one of the 16. So, either there was much minority talent which formerly had been over-looked, or BAFTA suddenly went overboard to comply with the demand for diversity, and changed the nomination criteria.

I see no valid reason why the public should be concerned about the genetics of people such as directors and producers who make films. The public should be able look at whatever entertains them. I think the public is also capable of judging the acting talent of players, whatever their race. This year, they were nudged. I think that the entertainment world should have consistent standards, and I don’t see why minority race should be one of them.

Now to the professional society. The British Psychological Society was founded in 1901, and has 60,000 members. If any institution should be able to guard against unverified personal opinions and self-serving biases, this should be it. Every psychology undergraduate course contains cautionary examples showing how a personal perspective on events can be misleading, due to selective attention and fallible memory, hence the need for impeccable research methods.

In September the CEO of the society (odd, I know, that a learned society has a CEO, but this is a recent development) declared that the Society was institutionally racist. This came out of the blue, since a few months earlier he had said that he doubted that the society was racist. I wrote to him in September as a Fellow of the Society, asking on what basis he had made his remark. Perhaps in this “day and age” I need to explain that a condemnation of this magnitude of an entire professional society should be based on hard evidence. For example, that minority applicants are turned down for membership. For example, that minority members are turned down for appointments on committees. For example, that minorities are not employed by the society in administrative roles. For example, that clinical psychologists will not accept minority patients. For example, that the Society habitually refers to minorities in derogatory terms.

(I had already thought about the methods to be used to search for institutional racism. One would need to look back roughly 20 years to see how many people graduated with psychology degrees, from which universities, and the racial breakdown of those numbers, to establish the baselines for comparison, since society posts usually go to experienced people who are sufficiently secure in their mid or late careers to spend unpaid time on voluntary tasks).

So far, I have not received a reply, so the implication is that no such internal review was carried out. However, it turns out that the CEO is now on extended leave, and the deputy CEO is filling in for him, so I have asked that my inquiry be sent on to her. That was only recently, so something might come of it, albeit 8 months late.

It the mean time the Society has suddenly been in the news, for all the wrong reasons. Last month one former President of the Society resigned, saying he no longer wanted to be associated with the way it was conducting itself, and claiming poor governance. Another group have referred the Society to the Charity Commission, asking for it to be investigated, and that investigation is now under way. A paid member of the Society is under investigation for misuse of charitable funds. In a stunning development, the President Elect of the Society has been investigated by the Society for bullying (complaints from the university where he works, and also some from the society), and after two investigations not only stripped of his presidency, but also thrown out of the society. He says he was elected to campaign against the dreadful governance of the society, and was ejected on trumped up charges. An interim chairperson explained the ejection of the President Elect, though without details, and did so before the time period was up for him to appeal. The serving president of the Society had resigned earlier in the year, citing family reasons. The only available accounts are for 2019, and show rising costs, a £2 million overspend, and five salaried staff members with high salaries: one at up to $73,000, one at up to $111,000, one at up to $139,000, one up to $153,000 and one, presumably the CEO, at up to $167,000. A very senior clinical psychologist at the top of their National Health pay scale would get $120,000.

So, if I get an answer, it might be from the deputy CEO, probably salary up to $153,000. I find that she, like me, made a comment on the recent Commission on Race and Ethnic Disparities. You may recall that I went through that long document, commending the fact that it was based on evidence, and giving a detailed evaluation of its content, praising some aspects and criticizing others. I also did another post on the methodology of studying job applications which had been discussed by the Commission, so as to fill in the analysis I had done.

What did the British Psychological Society say, with resources far greater than mine, and with many learned Fellows to call upon?

Here is the statement:

The British Psychological Society has today responded to the findings of the report of the Commission on Race and Ethnic Disparities.

Diane Ashby, Deputy Chief Executive of the British Psychological Society, said:
“The findings of the report represent a missed opportunity to identify the causes of disparities in our society, systemic racism, and to drive forward the positive change the Government said it wishes to deliver.

We are particularly concerned that the re-traumatising of Black, Asian and Minority Ethnic people through a denial of their lived experience, will have an adverse psychological impact.
As stated previously we recognise that institutional racism exists and as an organisation we will tackle it.

We stand shoulder to shoulder with our allies in striving for anti-racist practice and are committed to tackling racism within our profession. We will not be complacent.”

Even at a glance, it is not clear why Asian minorities such as Indians who earn more than local whites would be traumatised by this report. Furthermore, the statement elevates “lived experience” to a higher level than the data the Commission presented, seemingly oblivious to the fact that everyone alive has lived experience, even statisticians, and that it is the distillation of lived experience which constitutes evidence, not individual anecdote.

One British Psychological Society report is quoted, dealing with Covid and racial minorities:

https://www.bps.org.uk/sites/www.bps.org.uk/files/Member%20Networks/Divisions/DCP/Racial%20and%20Social%20Inequalities%20in%20the%20times%20of%20Covid-19.pdf

In my view that report gives a predominantly sociological account of the causes of health differences, ignoring other interpretations. A learned society should consider all options, including admitting that the answers are not yet known. For example, the report does not investigate whether there are racial differences in compliance with health advice, which has an impact on health outcomes.

In summary, a common feature of these two institutions is their acquiescence to the political demand that institutions must have a racial composition which is the same as the current racial composition of society, and that the outcomes for different racial groups must be the same, and if they are not, some form of malfeasance can be assumed to be responsible for those differences. For example, the current increase in the UK of the Indian variant of Covid is probably attributable to Indians returning from India just before flights from that country were banned. If one only measures cases by minority status then the infection rates will be higher for Indians, but not because of racism, simply because of the pandemic raging in India, from which they recently returned. (A hospital doctor tells me current Covid cases are mostly Indian). As previously discussed, institutions may not have the same racial composition as the general population owing to differences in interests or abilities, as well as differences in opportunities.

All the travails of the British Psychological Society are not due to racism, nor even due to the desperate wish to be seen to be against racism, but in declaring the society to be racist, and in replying to a government report with a political declaration rather than an analysis of the content, they have shown themselves to have fallen below the standards expected of a professional society.

Conclusions cannot be reached on the basis of accusation alone, but must be supported with evidence.

You may have your own view about actors and psychologists, seeing both as too unrealistic and left-inclined to be worthy of much attention. Perhaps so, but there is a larger point at stake. If British institutions cannot avoid political posturing and cannot concentrate on quality, then any respect accorded to them will evaporate.

 
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  1. ruralguy says:

    they have shown themselves to have fallen below the standards expected of a professional society

    Good point. It’s rather ironic that the leadership in the British Psychological Society detaches itself from reality, by claiming “lived experiences” (whatever that means) supersedes evidence-based proof. They seem to me to be psychological immature, by using all the proper politically-correct terms, to ensure the dominant popular thought doesn’t perceive them as “racists.” This leadership is not leadership, .. they are pathetic followers who have effectively destroyed the professionalism of their society.

    • Agree: Alfred Muscaria
  2. @ruralguy

    “the leadership in the British Psychological Society detaches itself from reality, by claiming “lived experiences” (whatever that means) supersedes evidence-based proof”

    Maybe the leadership in the British Psychological Society is suffering from some form of mental illness or mass delusion?

    Perhaps the Royal College of Psychiatrists could advise?

    • LOL: Right_On, St-Germain
  3. dearieme says:

    I’ve been trying to think of a case in my own life when I was part of a ludicrously unrepresentative group which would, in modern circumstances, be viewed as some sort of conspiracy against outsiders.

    In my rugby playing days I was for some time a member of a “back row” (three members of the scrum) that our club mates jokingly called The Doctors. We each had either a PhD or a medical qualification.

    Not only that but none of us were women, trans or non-white. The Horror, eh?

  4. A123 says:

    At the 2nd February 2020 Award ceremony, Prince William, Duke of Cambridge, chairman of Bafta bemoaned the lack of racial minorities. It “simply cannot be right in this day and age” that film awards have all-white shortlists.” Speaking at the Baftas, the Duke said it was unacceptable for voters to overlook black and ethnic minority talent.

    Fear Not!

    A solution is coming. Physical actors/actresses are an impediment to progress. The solution is Deep++. Realtime virtual actor simulation will tailor video playback based on a camera analysis & monitoring of the viewers.

    What could go wrong with Deep++? Everything will be fine. Trust me. (∆)

    PEACE 😇

    [MORE]

    (∆) Use of Deep++ indemnifies the manufacturers of Deep++ from all liabilities. Deep++ must not be use on pre-Woke movies. Mel Brooks’ “Blazing Saddles” has been explicitly blocked from Deep++ processing. Fuhgeddaboudit.

  5. Polistra says:

    Even at a glance, it is not clear why Asian minorities such as Indians who earn more than local whites would be traumatised by this report.

    Nobody being traumatised by nuttin. Propagandists be propagandizing is all. Once the very last wypipos been flushed out da system den we has big party.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  6. I wonder if Prince William has any awareness that when his grandmother dies, the whiteness of the Royal Family will be used as a weapon by people who want to destroy the monarchy.

    • Replies: @Miro23
  7. @dearieme

    What was the religion of the ref?

    • Replies: @dearieme
  8. Such a shock that the British Psychospohasters’ Union – the peak representative body for a bullshit discipline that pulls its conclusions out of its collective arseholes – is fully bought-in to the Woke ideology.

    Like the entire published literature of the psycho-charlatans, its conclusions (a) are not borne out by any evidence worth spit; and (b) won’t replicate.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  9. dearieme says:
    @James Thompson

    What was the religion of the ref?

    Good God, that would have been reckoned an entirely improper question in those days.

    Autres temps, autres mœurs.

    Would we nowadays need a refereeing panel including one Hindu, one Sikh, one Mussulman, one lesbian, …?

  10. @Kratoklastes

    conclusions of the pschycho-charlatans won’t replicate

    Possible. Maybe they duplicate though – then triplicate, etc. pp. And up they rise into the heavens of justice and equity: New affirmative methods for new woke horizons.

  11. If British institutions cannot avoid political posturing and cannot concentrate on quality, then any respect accorded to them will evaporate.

    You took away an e – and that helped your idea about the rather dubious aspects of equality to emanate quite clearly!

    (Was George Perec the inspiration here with his Novel Without e? – Maybe – – even subuconsciouslee?)

  12. These creeps are socialists-in-name-only or SINOS. They are totally on the side of capitalist monopolists like Starbucks, Google, Microsoft, and the Military-Industrial Complex. They side with Big Tech and Big Media, both controlled by Jewish supremacists. They hate the American working class and push for more immigrants as cheaper and more docile labor.

    • Agree: TKK
    • Replies: @gotmituns
  13. You prided yourself on being open & inclusive, till it came time to be open and include *everyone*

  14. “Diversity” is cancer. The US was born cancerous. Britain gave itself cancer.

  15. As I have stated else where.

    pc > sjw > woke > equity = death of any country.

    I wouldn’t be surprise if other European countries follows soon.

  16. This type of organisational defensive behavior is described by the now deceased psychiatrist Howard Stein in his book on Dark Organizations. Also the Monarchy has been defensive since decolonization. I would like to suggest that most organizations in the Western world are turning dark in what may be a transition to a new Age of Man. In Grecian times they built Temples for Gods, now they build it for Corporates. Africans also laugh at whites trying to spread “Democracy” as if its working in their own countries.

    • Thanks: some_loon
  17. Miro23 says:

    At the 2nd February 2020 Award ceremony, Prince William, Duke of Cambridge, chairman of Bafta bemoaned the lack of racial minorities. It “simply cannot be right in this day and age” that film awards have all-white shortlists.” Speaking at the Baftas, the Duke said it was unacceptable for voters to overlook black and ethnic minority talent.

    Except that an all-Japanese shortlist if fine in Japan, all-Nigerian in Nigeria or all-Chinese in China.

    What this Woke controlled coward should stand up and say is that “Great Britain is the national home of the British people (English, Scots and Welsh)” – then everything would start to make sense again.

    The British happen to be all-white because they’ve lived in the British Isles such a long time that they are physically adapted to the cloudy northern climate and little sunlight.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  18. Britain is lost and has lost. This morning the BBC showed a photo of a 14-storey building engulfed in flames, with a heading about Gaza sending rockets into “israel”. Except, of course, the building was in Gaza and had been blown up by the “israeli” offence force. Das Grauniad is also spreading lies. Here is an excellent US website for the real story:
    https://israelpalestinenews.org/congresswoman-manning-lets-put-your-sderot-experience-in-context/

    • Thanks: Lee
  19. Miro23 says:
    @Joe S.Walker

    I wonder if Prince William has any awareness that when his grandmother dies, the whiteness of the Royal Family will be used as a weapon by people who want to destroy the monarchy.

    He does have that awareness. And, he (and the rest of them) think that if they engage in Woke virtue signaling they’ll be spared from attack.

    However they’re quite wrong. Meghan Markel was only the start. The aim is to eliminate the Royal Family and they’re speeding it along with their stupid virtue signaling.

    If they want to survive, the only course of action, is to fulfill their role as the leaders of the British people (English, Scots and Welsh) – and look after the wellbeing of the British people in their national home which is the British Isles.

    There will still be plenty of foreigners in the UK – but they switch from being “co-owners” to “invited guests”. The National Home concept is very important. Homeless British arn’t going to be accepted as Chinese in China, Japanese in Japan, or Nigerians in Nigeria.

    • Agree: Montefrío
    • Replies: @Marckus
    , @nokangaroos
  20. Silver lining. This is what I love about BLM and Antifa.

    What they did to blue cities. LOL.

  21. @dearieme

    I’ll bet that no front-row player in all of rugby history had a PhD!

    • Replies: @dearieme
    , @Beau Nydle
  22. Alfred says:

    If British institutions cannot avoid political posturing and cannot concentrate on quality, then any respect accorded to them will evaporate.

    I lost respect for my own Imperial College of London a long time ago – when no one in the Department of Civil Engineering, which I attended 1968-71, pointed out that the official report on 9/11 contradicted the Laws of Motion of Sir Isaac Newton.

    More recently, the fake forecasts about Covid deaths by professor Ferguson of the same College merely coalesced my disgust of that establishment. A College attended by 3 generations in my family.

    I have Reviewed Ferguson's Code – It’s a Joke | Armstrong Economics

  23. Splendid analysis, impeccable logic and reasoning. Sadly enough (and it is implied in the article) not only BAFTA and the Psychology Association have become corrupted, nor are Britain and the US the only places where these embarrassing developments occur.

    The so-called Covid-19 Pandemic is a case in point. All over the world, but especially in the American Empire, responsible, decent physicians and assorted scientists have been sidelined and canceled for questioning government policies. This issue has also been repeatedly described, analyzed and commented on here at UNZ.

    It is only obvious that the Empire is in a deep crisis, from which it is to be hoped it will not recover and instead collapse and disintegrate.

    In the meantime, all the Empire’s central and local institutions have become corrupted. Elections are routinely manipulated, Judge Roy Bean now presides over courts all over the Empire, the media no longer contain a shred of truth, education at all levels is a sad joke, real scientific and scholarly research is being pushed out of colleges and universities. Just look around and you will see. BLM zealots, supported by the dangerous idiot in the White Madhouse, clamor for abolition… of the Police! Fortunately, not even the CIA can escape the madness, as it is currently being purged of “white supremacism” and opened up to letter-soup-sexualized poor devils who should be under psychiatric treatment rather than in an intelligence organization.

    I suspect that the root of the problem may be neoliberalism, the imperial ideology that has been imposed since the 1980s. As the Italian philosopher Umberto Galimberti has pointed out earlier in this century (I vizi capitali e i nuovi vizi), when everything is expressed in monetary value, when everything has a price (even sympathy and friendship), nothing has value.

    Hence the ill-fated attempts by desperate poor devils to bring back some sort of value into our lives. Hence the nonsensical idea to reduce individuals to “sexual identity,” hence the attempt by “Joe Biden” and the Democratic Party to reinstate race as the basic feature of human beings. Thierry Meyssan is arguing (https://www.voltairenet.org/article213027.html) that this lunacy is bound to end in violence.

    One thing seems certain: we are witnessing the end of a historical cycle and it is impossible to predict what will come next.

  24. The distinction between a person’s subjective interpretation of events and alternative but nevertheless reasonable interpretations of those same events is fundamental to many of the treatments employed by psychologists and psychiatrists.

    In a clinical context, the person’s ‘lived experience’ is not assumed to be the only possible interpretation of events and may in fact, on further exploration, turn out to provide a distorted and unhelpful view of their situation.

    Psychological treatments commonly focus on helping patients question their ‘lived experience’ in order to develop alternative ways of looking at things which offer a more accurate and thus more helpful interpretation of their experiences. In psychiatry, the distinction between reality based beliefs and beliefs arising from some form of pathological process is crucial to the diagnosis and treatment of severe mental disorder.

    Why then should psychology deem one particular form of ‘lived experience’ sacrosanct and therefore beyond all questioning? By making such an assumption we deny ourselves the opportunity to fully explore the reasons for race based inequalities. When one considers the potential harm to individuals and to society as a whole that may arise as a consequence, the stance appears clearly unethical.

    • Agree: James Thompson
  25. That cartoon says it all: Woke Faggotry.
    Of course, the idiot doesn’t know the ‘peace’ symbol is an upside down Christian cross with the arms of Christ broken. Hence, it is an occult and satanic symbol. These are the filth who believe Conservative America needs to be put in ‘re-education’ camps. In truth, if it ever gets to that point, the camps will be judeo-communist death camps run by Satanic Free-Mason and Jews, staffed by Hate-Filled Blacks and White Woke losers like the idiot in the cartoon.
    As soon as he is no longer needed he will be guillotined too of course.
    There are going to be a lot of really shocked people in the future, right up to the point they have a bullet put in their brain

  26. gotmituns says:
    @Priss Factor

    Yeah, I bet the people of the states they migrate too are overjoyed to see them.

  27. TyRade says:

    The Noel Clarke exposure caused one (supposedly right-wing) UK newspaper to be “baffled at BAFTA”? for nominating such a guilty-by-rumour person to their once prestigious award. What’s to ‘baffle’? Since Clarke ticks the diversity box he’d get a pass on anything up to and perhaps including ethnic cleansing if it meant a more colourful winner of the ‘achievement’ award. Just another, unbaffling tale of the diversity mob twisting itself into knots beyond parody. Eg Bill Cosby – for a long time one of the few faces of colour adored across ethnic groups – ‘operated’ under a blanket of silence. Eg Tiger Woods’ 16+ mistresses were common knowledge long before his then wife swung a 9 iron at him and the whole world knew; hey, a hero of colour, nothing to see here (except when it’s wrapped around a hydrant). Eg, and most egregiously, the Pakistani Rotherham grooming gangs – drugging and raping white school girls on an industrial scale for years, abetted by the embarrassed silence of the diversity mob in local authorities and police. Someone should make the documentary (but not expect Netflix to air it).

    • Replies: @gotmituns
    , @dindunuffins
  28. Z-man says:

    All I can say is thank God for Piers Morgan to you Brits for defending, if not your race, at least your culture from that quadroon manipulative bee-atch Markle.
    Three boos for his ‘Cuckness’ Prince Harry.

    • Agree: Marckus, TKK
    • Replies: @Z-man
  29. Gordo says:

    At the 2nd February 2020 Award ceremony, Prince William, Duke of Cambridge, chairman of Bafta bemoaned the lack of racial minorities.

    The royals are not on the side of the British White working class, who is?

    Possibly due to their ludicrous affection for the comical commonwealth.

    They are a lightning conductor.

  30. Anonymous[170] • Disclaimer says:
    @Polistra

    Once the very last wypipos been flushed out da system den we has big party.

    Yasssssss!

    Dat party gonna be duh shiznit: Haitian dirt-cookies all aroun’. Dung-fire-grilled pig knuckles an’ stolen KFC fried chicken buckets. Crockpot ‘Cannibal Stew’. And tons of Hennessy with 40 oz malt liquor chasers.

    All served by weave-wearin’, whale-sized, welfare sheboons an’ cakewalkin’ killer tyrones.

    Bet Rev. Grift gonna say grace.

  31. gotmituns says:
    @TyRade

    embarrassed silence
    ————————–
    What makes you think they’re embarrassed?

  32. dearieme says:
    @Irish Savant

    I did play one game at loose-head. Not much of an exception, I’ll grant you. Hell, I had more games at scrum-half.

    (After one such game in Glasgow I was trotting off the pitch when one of the spectators came up to me. “You are the biggest fecking scrum-half I’ve ever seen.”)

    I can rabbit on in this vein forever, but this isn’t the place for it.

  33. dearieme says:
    @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    the ‘peace’ symbol is an upside down Christian cross with the arms of Christ broken.

    In my youth I was told it was an inverted fertility symbol.

    Any other interpretations on offer?

    • Replies: @stevennonemaker88
  34. noname27 says: • Website

    Looks like the Jews have been busy.

    • Replies: @dindunuffins
  35. @TyRade

    Yup all ignored because these degenerates were/are black and brown. Idiot Whites ignoring these black/brown degenerates because they don’t want to be called RAYCISSSSSSSSS/ and giving all these black/brown losers positions of authority and awards just because they are black/brown,not because they are any good.That they have some miraculous unbelievable supreme ideas just because they are black/brown. What a joke. blacks cannot govern or rule anything because all they are is corrupt whiny little bitches! All of this black worshiping BS is getting us NOWHERE> What ,people think that rap and basketball and blacks ruining soccer now is some kind of great civilizational achievement.That black ghetto irresponsible trash “culcha” is supposed to be “woke” and modern advanced thinking. What a joke this whole world is becoming because of American black trash and the rest of corrupt blacks from Africa and other “sheitholes”. All of these people of color are not bringing anything to help or advance civilization. Only Whites do that. as the saying goes , blacks are like crabs in a bucket,one starts to get ahead and all the others drag his ass back down.Well now blacks are doing it to every civilization.Especially White Western Civilization. Because Whites keep on cucking to these throwbacks.

  36. Marckus says:
    @Miro23

    When I lived in South Africa it was pointed out to me that in the animal kingdom one species or even a sub species never mates with anything other than its own. Hence a Tiger will never hook up with a Leopard or a Baboon with a Chimp or a hyena with a wild dog.

    We, the most intelligent species on earth, in spite of all our sophistication are still animals. Yet in spite of our high intellect, we dump our precious seed all over the place. Any hole of any colour will do.

    As such we end up with the Markle situation where a Member of the Royal Family likes dark meat and they turn to Trashy Oprah, a black Hoe to pimp their “tale of woe” to the public. I remember a time when no matter how much money you had, if you were not white you did not get invited to the tea party. What ever possessed the Royal Family to encourage this copulation ? And what will be the price they will have to pay ? Who in their right minds would have thought that members of the Royals would turn to a lumpy black woman for the thrill of publicity and recognition ? “Whaaaaaaaaat ??”

    Sadly this is what we have come to. A man or woman should never ride outside their race or social class. Why a white man would want to bed a black woman or visa versa is beyond me. They should stick to their own as it results in less problems in the family unit, socially and psychologically.

    I once has a stop over in Amsterdam and heard a definite Upper Class English accent behind me. Being bored out of my mind at the potential 14 hour wait, I turned around to break the ice and have a conversation. Imagine my horror when the orator turned out to be a Black man ten shades darker than my shoes, wearing worn out sweat pants, a T shirt and unlaced grubby white sneakers. I decided it would be better to stare at the walls until my connection.

    There was a time when being an Englishman mattered, when it meant something. Those days are gone for good. The UK, like all its other previously white speaking Colonies, has allowed the shit of the world and the crud of society into its borders and we now have an outdoor latrine.

  37. Good news. BAFTA ratings plunged. Well at least it is something.

  38. profnasty says:

    In other news,,,
    A coterie of American Generals has warned America is dying.
    Now back to our advertising.

  39. profnasty says:
    @Marckus

    Good fences make good neighbors.
    Kevin Barrett is Black.

  40. @Marckus

    There was a time when being an Englishman mattered, when it meant something. Those days are gone for good.

    I am very, very glad those days are over. After twice trying to destroy Europe, the English are now realizing the chickens are coming home to roost. Isn’t that what’s called Karma in India?

    No need to reply that English literature is so great and fantastic, because it isn’t. Shakespeare never existed and most of the other writers the English tend to boast about, are Irish, Scottish or even Polish, like Joseph Conrad.

    English music? Handel was German, Purcell copied continental colleagues and the same goes for painting.

    Theater, yes, but go to Italy and Spain and you will see better acting even in the streets.

    • LOL: some_loon
  41. “If British institutions cannot avoid political posturing and cannot concentrate on quality, then any respect accorded to them will evaporate.”

    Perhaps, it’s time to let them go the way of the dinosaurs simply because they are failing to address grievances of the true British society.

    • Replies: @PJ London
  42. @ruralguy

    This leadership is not leadership, .. they are pathetic followers who have effectively destroyed the professionalism of their society.

    Psychology, Sociology and Anthropology have been rewritten in the last 30 years as academic disciplines. There is no recovery. Just shut it down.

  43. @Hans Vogel

    No need to reply that English literature is so great and fantastic, because it isn’t.

    Thank you. English are the most ethnocentric people on the planet. Their next stage will just be fantasy and denial as their children get raped and beaten by the “New English”. In fact, I think they are there already.

  44. macilrae says:

    The BBC is so effing woke I gave up on it long ago – Sky has followed the same path and I’ve given up on that too. Every commercial has to show a black person and, pretty soon, half of the people you see on UK TV are going to be black. This has of course been brewing for many years – long before Greg Dyke, Director General of the BBC, said in 2001 (according to the Daily Mail):

    ‘I think the BBC is hideously white. I think the BBC is a predominantly white organisation. The figures we have at the moment suggest that quite a lot of people from different ethnic backgrounds that we do attract to the BBC leave. Maybe they don’t feel at home, maybe they don’t feel welcome.’

    Well, in the past twenty years they have surely fixed that!

    The people who are choreographing all this (and they are hideously white for sure) must fully appreciate that this intense reverse racism is resulting in a dangerous and growing antipathy towards blacks. An antipathy compounded by the violent and often lethal anti-social behaviour of feral young black males.

    The pop and entertainment industries – and of course the MSM – are in the forefront of this exercise: with the BBC leading the pack in the UK.

    The anti-intellectual ‘culture’ of black society is now being universally celebrated and attempted, quite successfully, to be inculcated upon the youth of the general population. Already the toxic curse of us all – and the blacks themselves not least.

    • Replies: @dindunuffins
  45. @Irish Savant

    Dr. Jan Nathaniel “Jannie” du Plessis. Also achieved Springbok status while on his rugby path and that’s no mean feat as well.

  46. @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    with the arms of Christ broken

    That isn’t what the symbol even looks like, much less where it came from. The symbol dates from 1958, and it’s primary theme is nuclear disarmament. It is a combination of the naval semaphore flag positions N and D. The creator of the symbol, Gerald Holtom, also stated that it resembles the peasant in Goya’s famous painting “The Third of May 1808”.

    https://theweek.com/captured/737372/origin-story-peace-sign

    Why do you have to post foolishness and falsehoods? Your name fits you, since you are a liar like the jew media.

  47. PJ London says:
    @Hans Vogel

    My dear chap,
    Being English was never about music or acting or even literature. It is about honour, duty, courage, integrity, loyalty, ethics and mostly setting a good example to all the lesser races (and as Churchill famously said “The Fuzzies start at Calais.”)
    I do acknowledge that “The Works” were not written by “William Shakespeare”, but as discovered not so long ago, by someone else with the same name.
    We also acknowledge that the Germans were good at tinkering with machines, the Dutch at digging dykes and the French, well actually they aren’t good at anything, but we understand your being extraordinarily jealous of our successes in keeping you all at bay. Unfortunately we joined your insidious and vicious little Union for a short time, thereby having to emulate your horrible habits, but now will return to normal.
    As somebody wrote in a play about the Danes “The laddie doth protest too much methinks.”

  48. @macilrae

    How appropriate that’s it’s called the “BBC”….

    • Replies: @Gordo
  49. bayviking says:

    From a political point of view the USA still finds it impossible to achieve any kind of agreement on best policy. The Trump era only amplified this problem. Asian, Hispanic, and African Americans will never respond to the special relationship between Europe and the USA. Similarly, European Americans have a different perspective towards other parts of the world. US politicians attempt to create a false consensus by justifying foreign policy on humanitarian grounds, which rapidly degenerates into into a form of neocolonialism, which European descendants are oblivious to and other minorities are more sensitive to.

    It is unreasonable to expect everyone to socialize equally with people of varying cultures, education, careers and geography. However, it is perfectly reasonable to demand that no one be discriminated against for sexual, cultural or the more dubious category of racial differences and such discrimination should be and is illegal on paper. Illegal is all one can reasonably expect.

    It is absurd to expect racial categories to align equally and proportionally in all professions. It is not unreasonable to afford every race equal educational opportunities in this country and we are so far from that that it is an obvious crime in progress. In the USA educational opportunity is generally segregated by Zip code, where the wealthiest neighborhoods are provided the best education.

    The notion that the Federal Reserve can support its stockholders engaged in fraud to the tune of about $29 trillion since 2008, all generated from a computer keyboard, a military industrial complex of $1.2 trillion a year, but we cannot afford to promote the general welfare is absurd on its face at best and more honestly proves Marx was right about class conflict. All deficit hawks and Pelosi’s pay-go are a continuation of class warfare. There is no legitimate reason our Federal Government should ever have to borrow money from the private sector as China demonstrates on a daily basis. The only reason we live under such a system, is a few rich families made it so. Since 2008, these facts should be apparent to everyone with even a minimal grasp of the facts. Republicans deny this and Democrats in a position of power will never broach the subject.

  50. PJ London says:
    @A Half Naked Fakir

    and why exactly, is it the responsibility of the acting association or the psychologists to address grievances?
    They only should be representatives of their respective membership.
    If 99% of psychologists are white or 100% of the ‘good’ actors are white, why would they be required to take cognisance of any others?

    • Replies: @A Half Naked Fakir
  51. @Marckus

    When I lived in South Africa it was pointed out to me that in the animal kingdom one species or even a sub species never mates with anything other than its own. Hence a Tiger will never hook up with a Leopard or a Baboon with a Chimp or a hyena with a wild dog.

    A Baboon and a Chimp are not even the same genus, let alone species or sub species. A hyena is not even in the same family as wild dogs. They cannot be interbred, even in a lab. You are an idiot.

    The only pairing you mentioned that are even in the same genus are tigers and leopards. The two have been mated together, but never produced (verified) live offspring.

    Humans of all races mix and have fertile, healthy offspring.

    Aren’t you embarrassed posting such ridiculous, retarded statements?

  52. @dearieme

    Ignore steinjewcohen’s retarded babble. The peace symbol is a combination of the naval semaphore flag positions N and D. Created for Nuclear Disarmament by Gerald Holtom in 1958. I posted a link about it in my previous comment.

    • Replies: @dearieme
  53. anon[901] • Disclaimer says:

    Never knew people were so anti-English until I visited this forum. Maybe they did start a lot of the stuff Jews still do, like weaponizing Blacks. Still, the WASP elite is a dead horse and the raging Jewish bull has yet to be saddled.

  54. CanSpeccy says: • Website

    If the Royal Family has gone woke, then the Hell with them. Canada, Australia and New Zealand get along fine with an appointed head of state (nominally representing, and appointed by, the Queen, but in fact chosen by the home government).

    Indeed, ending the British monarchy with the the death of the present incumbent would seem highly fitting. That would clearly signal recognition that England’s age of greatness, imperial, industrial and scientific — neatly bracketed by the two great queens, Elizabeth I and Elizabeth II — has ended, and it would thereby focus national attention on formulating a new relationship with the world that is appropriate to Britain’s limited physical resources and population. What Britain should cease to be is a destination for tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands and millions of the world’s poor in search of a higher standard of living.

    The aim should be independence (maintained through the retention of nuclear weapons), neutrality, and a friendship with all peace-loving nations.

    In particular, Britain must tear itself from US hegemonic influence, which is not only destroying Britain as a racial and cultural entity but threatens to involve Britain in wars unconnected with Britain’s national interest.

    The deadly harm due to America’s cultural influence on Britain is well expressed in the following statement about America:

    What used to be unimaginable is now taking place in America. We see certain aspects of Nazi-like totalitarianism in the United States. The obsession with race, declaring an ethnic group collectively guilty, shaming, humiliations based on ethnicity, lootings, arson, racist violence, intimidation of opponents, cancel culture, controlled dissemination of news, and indoctrination of children in schools. We see fake news, conspiracy theories, an overhaul of history, a new language imposed, and unprosecuted theft. All in the name of a more just culture.

    On May 8, we remembered that America had a leading role in liberating Europe from the totalitarian Nazi regime. But who will liberate America if it becomes totalitarian state? America is playing with fire.

    Evelyn Markus

  55. CanSpeccy says: • Website

    James, a trivial point, but I believe that in the last sentence of Paragraph 3, the word “been” should be inserted after the fourth word.

    • Replies: @James Thompson
  56. @Miro23

    “the British people (English, Scots and Welsh)”

    I’d add at least some of the Irish to that list. Not all Irish want to be Brits but a fair number do.

    • Agree: Miro23
  57. @Miro23

    Lasciate ogni speranza 😛

    I see you do not understand …
    Habsburg blocked German unification for a century (1806 – 1919, when the French took over that rôle again) for no other reason than refusing to let go of their non-German subjects.
    Nikolai II blocked blindingly obvious reforms because it was more important to leave medieval-Tataric autocracy intact to his hemophilic son.
    The British Empire had its inflection point (“Vietnam”) 1851 at Maiuba Hill and was bankrupt by 1908; everything since then was zombie momentum.
    But to the Colditz people (who are adamant Queen Vicky still reigns) a
    “Britain for the British” volte-à-face would mean having to face reality
    even a Bblak Queen would be better (more exactly, less odious) than that.

    It seems to be a law of life – and, for you, a glimpse into the future …

    • Replies: @stevennonemaker88
  58. @nokangaroos

    are you referring to the Battle of Majuba Hill in 1881 which ended the 1st Boer war?

    Facts… matter.

    • Thanks: nokangaroos
  59. @PJ London

    Being English was never about music or acting or even literature. It is about honour, duty, courage, integrity, loyalty, ethics and mostly setting a good example to all the lesser races (and as Churchill famously said “The Fuzzies start at Calais.”)

    Firebombing Dresden at night with no real air defenses was a great example of “honour, duty, courage, integrity, loyalty and ethics. If only we could all be like the British. Letting 12 year olds be gang raped by foreigners with impunity is another fine trait.

    • Thanks: Dr. Charles Fhandrich
    • Replies: @Spender_CGB
  60. @PJ London

    How can losing your whole Empire make you return to “normal”? Funny how Churchill was let off easy on that one. He begged for help from the vicious little Union and they helped themselves to it. (The empire) Now the U.K is so jealous of its former enemy’s position in Europe, that they can’t even see straight. Don’t misunderstand me, I have great respect for much of British Culture but it’s hard to find an example of it in today’s England..

  61. @Alfred Muscaria

    If only we could all be like the British. Letting 12 year olds be gang raped by foreigners with impunity is another fine trait.

    From todays Guardian.

    Twenty-nine men have been charged with the sexual exploitation of a victim over a seven-year period in West Yorkshire.

    The men have been charged with various offences including rape, conspiracy to rape and indecent assault, after a West Yorkshire police investigation into non-recent child sexual exploitation.

    Some of the names of the accused.

    Asad Ali, 37, of Brighouse, is charged with two counts of rape.

    Ajmal Aziz, 39 of Halifax, is charged with three counts of rape and attempted rape.

    Mohammed Jangier, 44, of Halifax, is charged with rape.

    Mohammed Asif, 36, of Halifax, is charged with two counts of rape

    Harris Ahmed Butt, 37, of Halifax, is charged with two counts of rape and two counts of indecent assault.

    Taukeer Butt, 36, of Halifax, is charged with three counts of rape.

    Muitasim Khan, 40, of Halifax, is charged with rape.

    Link to article
    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/may/13/police-charge-29-men-child-sexual-exploitation-west-yorkshire

    • Replies: @stevennonemaker88
  62. @CanSpeccy

    Indeed. Corrected. Thanks.

  63. dearieme says:
    @stevennonemaker88

    Thanks. But how disappointing; I liked the inverted fertility symbol idea.

  64. @Spender_CGB

    the topic is no laughing matter, but Harris Ahmed Butt… what a name. Reminds me of Colin Pitchfork who raped and strangled two 15 year old girls. He was actually british though.

  65. It’s amazing hearing a first hand account of Jefferson Davis’ slave. sounds like they had it better than many “free” whites. I oppose slavery, but this really ads some perspective to the exaggerated blacks as victims idea.

    • Replies: @Dr. Charles Fhandrich
  66. Z-man says:
    @Z-man

    … the opportunistic bee-atch Markle.

  67. jrance says: • Website

    Dr. Thompson — If you’d like to see a real whopper of a recent controversy about intelligence in the US, check out any story online about the NFL (National Football League), and its practice of “race norming” to account for dementia experienced by former players. Here is one article on it, but there are many: https://www.thenation.com/article/society/race-norming-nfl-concussions/

    Because football players often are concussed and later in life experience cognitive decline, the NFL is paying out compensation to those who are assessed as cognitively impaired. The problem: Because of the demographic assumption that Blacks start off at a lower cognitive level than Whites, they are assigned a different (lower) cognitive score when making a claim for dementia. When race-normed in this fashion, it appears that many Black former players are not considered clinically impaired, but instead normal by Black norms. Thus, they lose out on compensation. Lawsuits abound! I’d love to see your take on this issue, and the validity (or not) of race norming. Thanks.

    • Replies: @James Thompson
  68. Gordo says:
    @dindunuffins

    How appropriate that’s it’s called the “BBC”….

    It used to be referred to as ‘Buggers Broadcasting Communism’ as I’m sure Dr Thompson remembers.

  69. @jrance

    Thanks. Public understanding of intelligence is so poor that many people are surprised that in order to search for cognitive deficits you have to take measures of intelligence. This is because a poor score on a particular task could be a sign of a deficit in a bright person, and a confirmation of normal functioning in a less able person. So, you test widely, but particularly rely on valid measures of pre-morbid intelligence to get a good baseline of ability. Test like the National Adult Reading Test are good for this purpose.

    So, you don’t really have to “race norm” at all. You have to obtain good measures of pre-morbid intelligence, and years in education, scholastic achievements, occupational levels (outside of sport) and other cognitive achievements help fill out the picture.

    However, even without any “race norming” any group with lower pre-morbid intelligence will get less compensation, because they will be less able to show deficits.

    The only other approach is to improve brain imaging even further, in the hope of being able to show damage on scans. Currently, those scans are less informative that a simple timed coding task.

    The other approach would be to forget all this, and just give a standard compensation payment on the basis of number of games played.

    • Replies: @res
  70. res says:
    @James Thompson

    One interesting wrinkle to this is that the NFL has administered the Wonderlic Test at its draft combine since the 1970s.
    https://www.si.com/nfl/2016/02/15/nfl-combine-wonderlic-test-explained

    So in theory you could do something like you recommend for more recent players. Of course that is likely to be politically impossible…

    P.S. It seems like it will only be a matter of time until this use of the Wonderlic Test is cancelled.
    https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/49ers/why-49ers-richard-sherman-right-blast-nfl-drafts-wonderlic-tests

  71. Interesting. Football (soccer) also requires brains, as well as superb coordination and fitness.

    • Replies: @res
  72. res says:
    @James Thompson

    One thing that is interesting about the Wonderlic in the NFL is how the scores vary by position.
    https://ncaahistoryguide.com/nfl-wonderlic-scores-position/

    Offensive tackle – 26
    Center – 25
    Quarterback – 24
    Guard – 23
    Tight end – 22
    Safety – 19
    Linebacker – 19
    Cornerback – 18
    Wide receiver – 17
    Fullback – 17
    Halfback – 16

    To a significant degree that appears to be a racial artifact. It is unclear to me where causation lies here. This page has NFL breakdown by race and position by year from 1999-2014.
    https://theundefeated.com/features/the-nfls-racial-divide/

    There is spotty coverage of NFL Combine Wonderlic scores before 2018 at
    https://nflcombineresults.com/nflcombinedata_expanded.php?year=2017&pos=&college=

    But they seem to have stopped in 2018.
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/guardian-hispanic-baseball-fans-revolting-against-trump-liking-ballclub-owners/#comment-2267157

    I don’t know if the spotty coverage is a factor of who is administered tests, who allows data release, or ?

    Is there anything similar for football (soccer)? Any thoughts on how intelligence might vary by position?

    P.S. Steve Sailer just made a post on this topic.
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/white-nfl-draftees-average-16-iq-points-higher-than-black-draftees/
    It references a 2012 paper which has some good details.

    • Replies: @dearieme
    , @James Thompson
  73. dearieme says:
    @res

    Rugby players take a rather high-and-mighty view that they are more intelligent beasts than football (soccer) players. At the modest level I played at the evidence was in favour of that view. My rugby club fielded a football side in a summer league. We tended to slaughter ’em. And our team included people like me who’d hardly played football since we’d been fourteen or so.

    It was conspicuous that the rugby players were more vocal, advising each other, adjusting positions, and so forth.

  74. @res

    Forgive me, but I do not know what decisions are required by players in each of those positions, because I do not know the game. What is it about “offensive tackle” and “center” which is cognitively demanding?

    In rugby, the scrum half has to make important impromptu decisions:

    1) When to pick the ball out of the back of his scrum
    2) Whether to pass it left or right to the wings, or
    3) Whether to kick it left or right or straight forwards and then run after it
    4) Whether to drop kick it to make a goal
    5) Whether to pretend to do one of those things, and then do another.

    All this when about to get annihilated.

    • Replies: @res
  75. res says:
    @James Thompson

    Forgive me, but I do not know what decisions are required by players in each of those positions, because I do not know the game.

    Certainly. I’m not exactly an expert, but I’ll try.

    What is it about “offensive tackle” and “center” which is cognitively demanding?

    That’s the interesting question. Especially because some people have the stereotype that offensive linemen (offensive tackles, guards, and center) are big dumb brutes since they tend to be some of the biggest players.

    This page goes into the topic at some length.
    https://vault.si.com/vault/2003/08/11/the-smartest-players-in-football-they-may-look-like-big-slow-brutes-to-the-casual-fan-but-offensive-linemen-are-proving-on-and-off-the-field-that-they-possess-uncommon-intellect
    The biggest reason they give was the need to read the defense. In short, the offensive line sets and then has to react to how the defense lines up and adjust accordingly.

    I’ve had some friends who were school age offensive linemen (and were smart) and they talked more about the complexity of the plays they needed to learn. Superficially it looks like a bunch of big guys just pushing and/or resisting, but there is significant complexity in what the tackles and guards do movement left and right wise. The center has the obligation of getting the ball to the quarterback to start things which is hard when, as you say, you are “about to get annihilated.”

    This page is a useful reference, but probably assumes too much background knowledge for you.
    https://www.battleredblog.com/2013/5/20/4337118/football-101-the-abcs-of-offensive-line-play

    P.S. I think visuals help here, so here is a sample from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_football_positions

    • Replies: @James Thompson
  76. @res

    So, they are “play predictors” which is difficult. And also brutes!

  77. @stevennonemaker88

    The left and far left, now in the form of the democratic party politicians, have lied, stolen, cheated and caused untold damage including death to thousands of innocent Americans. I can live with leftists but I never interact with them in any way but the trivial, parties, relatives, forced social gatherings, etc. I’ve been sick of leftists for at least 40 years now. P.S. This is not to say that I am a die hard republican., however, since they have become such a pathetic joke as far as serving the conservative causes.

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