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“Facing Reality” is Murray’s lament for America. He dissects the two key problems of race, and prescribes a reaffirmation of the American Creed of equality under the law, but is hoping against hope that those noble aims are achievable, and doubts his suggestions will be heeded. His short book might be briefly summarized as: “It’s Over”.

This matters deeply, because he has a strong case, and at a personal level has earned his status as the American de Tocqueville. He might smile wryly at this, remembering that aristocrat’s cutting observation about American majority thinking:

“The majority has enclosed thought within a formidable fence. A writer is free inside that area, but woe to the man who goes beyond it, not that he stands in fear of an inquisition, but he must face all kinds of unpleasantness in every day persecution. A career in politics is closed to him for he has offended the only power that holds the keys”.

Murray should get a respectful hearing. His sympathies are with small town America, and with the average guy in an average job. If class can still be mentioned as relevant in these fractious times, despite his high abilities as a social statistician and scholar, Murray remains true to his roots. Like any true Scot, he would rather be respected by his clan than to suck up to the lairds.

The book is crystal clear: aggressive affirmative action is poisoning American society. Standards have been corrupted, and trust has been lost. Admitting those facts, and ceasing to reward one race over another, is the minimal step which needs to be taken to get out of the quagmire.

Here is a synopsis, from direct quotations, with some explanatory introductions in brackets, and page numbers:

(Recreational radicalism has taken over today’s academia and elite media). 5

The Biden administration is acting on an assumption that has been incorporated into law for more than 50 years: it is appropriate for the government to play racial favourites, to dispense favours and penalties according to the group to which individuals belong. 6

Those of us who want to defend the American creed have been unwilling to say openly that races have significant group differences. Since we have been unwilling to say that, we have been defenceless against claims that racism is to blame for unequal outcomes. What else could it be? We have been afraid to answer candidly. 7

New York City went from 77% European in 1960 to 32% in 2019. That’s a transformation by any definition. 17

The mean differences separating European teenagers from African teenagers in math and reading haven’t diminished since the last half of the 1980s. (despite billions of dollars to close the gap) 41

The major tests do not under-predict the performance of African or Latins. 43

Activists say the tests are worthless [] the existence of lower mean scores for Africans and Latins is in itself irrefutable evidence of bias because everyone knows that there are no race differences in intelligence. This is argued with all the passion and conviction that true believers bring to their evangelism. It does not reflect reality. 46

the odds of arrest for white offenders is approximately 22% higher for robbery, 13% higher for aggravated assault, and 9% higher for simple assault than they are for black offenders. 52

Across 13 American cities, including 4 of the nation’s most important ones, the African arrest rate for violent crime was usually around 9 to 11 times the European rate. 62

(scores for Harvard applicants) that gave an Asian applicant a 25% chance of admission gave an African applicant a 95% chance. 69

(applications to professional schools such as medicine and law) Africans are in the bottom quartile of test scores for all the admission tests except for those heading to business school or graduate school in education. 72

(African matriculants from medical school have MCAT scores 1 standard deviation below European matriculants) 72

(Even within occupations Africans are 1 standard deviation below the European mean) Table 6 pg 76

(Employers seeking IQ 135+ young people must choose from 160,100 Europeans; 50,700 Asians; 9,500 Latins; and 2,800 Africans) 82

(the military stand apart from all civilian occupations because they can use IQ tests, thus getting people of IQ 92.6+ and rejecting applicants despite their race) there’s no reason that civilian employers that used comparable procedures couldn’t achieve similar results. However, doing so would mean basing employment decisions not only on using an IQ cutoff but also on aptitude tests, both of which run the risk of violating the antidiscrimination laws that apply to civilians. 85

The American job market systemically discriminates in favor of racial minorities other than Asians. 88

Research results on any domestic policy issue involving more than one race are seldom valid unless race differences in cognitive ability and crime are taken into account. I don’t ask for much. I will be gratified if researchers are buffered from accusations of racism because they entered IQ scores as an independent variable in a regression equation. 106

The bell curve of your personal experience does not involve mean differences in cognitive ability or crime rates. It is natural to think your experience invalidates the data about group differences. The mind insists on generalizing. But when mean differences between groups are real, it is absolutely essential to resist generalizing; it is essential to accept the reality of documented group differences but to insist on thinking of and treating every person as an individual. 113

Preferential racial policies have been eroding the nation’s commitment to impartiality for decades. 115

Ordinarily, you can’t insult people into agreeing with you, but White guilt is a real thing. 117

If a minority consisting of 13% of the population can generate as much political energy and solidarity as America’s Blacks have, what happens when a large proportion of the 60% of the population that is White begins to use the same playbook? 118

Aggressive affirmative action is a poison leaking into the American experiment. We are now dealing with nearly sixty years of accumulated toxin. It is not the only cause of the present crisis, but it is a central one. 121

The solution. Eliminate all forms of government-sponsored preferential treatments by race. 122

The return to an embrace of the American creed must be a celebration of America’s original ideal of equality under the law. 124

I have been very brief. There is a treasure-trove of supplementary data which can be discussed at another time, and can be mined for detailed studies, particularly on occupations and intelligence levels by race.

The book includes some very important corrective observations. You do not refute a mean difference by finding some very gifted outliers, and concentrating on their achievements. You cannot refute national mean differences by looking at your particular neighbourhood, friendship pattern or profession, because many of those samples are highly pre-selected for intelligence. For example, in the American armed forces the use of an intelligence test leads to the races being much more alike in ability than is the case in civilian life. Intelligence differences in the armed forces will seem to have disappeared. (One dismissive reviewer in the Washington Post does not understand that blacks do as well as whites in the military because those who fail to qualify have been excluded, a right that only the armed forces enjoy).

Lived experience is a poor guide to other lives. You cannot assume equal outcomes for entire groups on the basis of your own personal networks, and group comparisons must always control for intellectual ability.

This is a good book, English rather than American in length, and with a sharp focus: if one racial group is duller and more violent than another, then a starting point is to recognize these differences, and to acknowledge the paltry changes that have been achieved by decades of compensatory expenditures.

In terms of policy, Murray is searching for a moderate consensus, fearing something worse. Relief from toxins would be a start, hence his proposed solution. As Macaulay said at dinner, age 3, sometime after having had hot soup accidentally poured into his lap: “The agony is somewhat abated”.

As a commentator, and not a policy maker, I forsee some problems with facing reality.

If you look at ability differences within professions, a rational rule of thumb for people of all races, entirely based on documented ability levels would be, if possible, to avoid black doctors and nurses, because they will probably be less able to care for you at European levels. Indeed, a general rule of thumb would be to avoid all black professionals, and to be guided by Tables 5 and 6, and further detailed ones on other occupations which can be derived from the referenced databases.

K-12 teachers are a full standard deviation below European ones, so all parents, black and white, should avoid those for their children. This rule of thumb will be unfair to some bright individuals, but that possibility must be balanced against the greater likelihood of having a poor teacher. Are therein lies the rub.

Ideally, you should consider each professional on their merits, but how is a citizen to do that, when all professionals hold the same qualifications? The qualifications are no guide to high ability, they merely attest to a minimal standard.

Personally, I want to judge people on their merits, but if the matter is important, and a decision must be taken quickly, I would probably be mistaken if I did not take group averages into account. Had I need of medical help when visiting America, it would be wiser to request an Asian or European doctor. Also, to save reading time, I should favour the opinions of Asian researchers in physical and life sciences, and engineering. In education, social/behavioural sciences and humanities I should stick to European authors. Rough and ready calculations can save lives. Heuristics make us smart, but not scrupulously fair.

In fact, I like judging arguments on their merits, regardless of the status of the publisher, and usually not knowing anything about the race or sex of the author, nor regarding those as important as the logic of their arguments. I don’t wish to use race-based shortcuts, whatever the reality. However, once reality is faced, unpalatable consequences follow. The American dream it would not be. All citizens facing reality would vote with their feet and their wallets (if they have not already done so), fleeing dangerous neighbourhoods, poorer service and lower quality professionals wherever possible. The chance of encountering violence is low, but if it is ten times higher when encountering a black man, prudent avoidance is understandable. The de facto separation of many cities would intensify, with integration restricted to daylight hours, central city supervised areas only.

As Murray argues, if all these toxic distortions of racial favouritism are dropped, it might clear the atmosphere, though the consequences would be profound. Many black people would lose their jobs to better qualified applicants. There would be purifying competition until, like in the military, you could respect the rank of the employee and ignore the race of the person holding it, secure in the knowledge that it had been earned fairly. Devoutly to be wished. Achieving this state of affairs might present some problems. Even in normal circumstances, let alone a facing reality reform, government employees are hard to sack.

Since I don’t do policy, I have no idea what would be feasible in the US or any other country, nor what would galvanize the middling folk of moderate tendencies to shun extreme positions, as Murray hopes. He fears what would happen if many white people organized on the basis of race, though his exposition makes it clear that they would have ample justification for doing so. It might lead to the end of the constitutional compromise of checks and balances, rather than restoring them.

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Based on what he saw in America in 1831 de Toqueville believed that the assimilation of black people would be almost impossible. Writing this year, Murray believes that if the facts about black intelligence and crime are faced, and if whites stick to the American creed, and race-based affirmative legislation is cancelled, then equality under the law will be restored, and assimilation may yet be possible.

Since these reforms will require a massive policy change and an electoral mandate, any national government that favours mass immigration can block them by importing a new electorate. The prospects for reform do not look good, since the current administration is in favour of race-based policies, and of immigration.

That is a present and future reality which would intensify the already toxic, status quo reality which Murray wants America to face.

 
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  1. The prospects for reform do not look good…

    No. Not at all.

    • Agree: BluEidDvl, Robert Bruce
  2. dearieme says:

    A friend used to say that if he were desperately ill in hospital he would want to hear “Hello, I am Dr McShapiro”.

    • LOL: Mevashir
  3. dearieme says:

    “American majority thinking”: when I was young Americans confessed to this. They knew they were conformists. Hence my belief when young that the American notion of free speech was bogus because Americans were then far less free in speech than Britons, Aussies and so on.

    Now, however, the boot is on the other foot. Nobody in the Anglosphere is allowed free speech but at least Americans enjoy some protection from government restrictions on free speech. Unless you count back-door government restrictions via Twitter, YouTube, and so forth. Which I suppose you ought to.

    To return to your main points: “a right that only the armed forces enjoy” is proof positive that the powers that be know that the whole fandango is fake. Else why exempt the people on whom they depend for violent protection?

    To whom is Murray preaching? The clerisy know he’s right but will never admit to it in speech (though they will in their actions of course). Maybe he hopes to gain the attention of the miseducated young?

    An alternative is to direct attention to actions. If the white ruling class marry whites, live in white neighbourhoods, and send their children to white schools, what would Sherlock Holmes deduce? Dog, bark, night.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    , @moi
  4. res says:

    Thanks for your review. It was not immediately obvious to me how Murray derived this quote.

    (applications to professional schools such as medicine and law) Africans are in the bottom quartile of test scores for all the admission tests except for those heading to business school or graduate school in education. 72

    If I understand correctly he is just using the Table 5 means and looking to see if the black means exceed the 1Q threshold of a Z score of -0.67. To add some perspective, the black means were -0.65 for MBA, -0.59 for education, and -0.60 for the general population. Contrast those with -1.02 for engineering.

    One oddity in the Table 5 discussion is that Murray does not mention the typical MBA program test–the GMAT. Not sure if that was an oversight or if I am missing something (maybe he focused on the GRE which is accepted by some MBA programs?).
    https://www.onlinemba.com/resources/mba-entrance-exams/

    Regarding the supplementary data (not sure if I missed a link in your post), dux.ie was kind enough to link the NLSY combined data in this comment.
    https://www.unz.com/jthompson/poor-white-kids-left-behind-parliament-says/#comment-4772564

    All three data files and documentation are available here.
    https://www.encounterbooks.com/books/facing-reality/

    The three files are:
    Combined Longitudinal Studies
    Nationally Representative Studies
    Violent Crime by Zip Code

    I would expect the college and graduate school admissions data from the section THE EDUCATIONAL PIPELINE to be in the second of those, but am not seeing it. Fortunately a 76 page PDF of notes for the book is also available at the link above.
    https://www.encounterbooks.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Facing-Reality_Notes.pdf
    On page 56 we find out that the GRE source (yes, he did look at the GRE scores of business grad school applicants. I wonder how the GMAT data would look) is this wonderful 73 page document (well worth a look, also has similar data for sex differences).
    A Snapshot of the Individuals Who Took the GRE General Test July 2014–June 2019
    https://www.ets.org/s/gre/pdf/snapshot_test_taker_data_2019.pdf
    He also gives sources for the other data in that section.

    Does anyone know exactly which scores Murray used for Table 5? In the GRE document the subtest score means and SDs (Verbal, Quantitative Reasoning, and Analytical Writing) by race are given in Tables 1.12-1.14
    The General Score is usually considered as the sum of the Verbal and Quantitative Reasoning scores.
    https://e-gmat.com/blogs/gre-scores/

    I don’t see General Score by race data in the GRE document. You can compute the means by just adding the V and QR results, but that does not work for the SDs since they are correlated (eliding that the computation is not just adding the SDs, rather the variances).

    I suspect the relative race results would differ by a fair bit depending on whether V/QR/General scores were used so this seems important to understand.

    Table 2.7 on pp. 50-51 gives the numbers in each GRE major/race category. I suspect part of the reason business and education are exceptions to the first quartile comment above is they have a significantly higher (12-13%) black representation than most of the other majors.

    Note there is a minor typo which made searching for the references harder. Table 5 is referred to as Table 8 in the notes. The notes are organized by page number so easy to use as long as you have those.

    P.S. I think you are a bit overoptimistic about the fairness of the US military. Just because you can set a threshold to eliminate the left hand side of the IQ curve that does not mean the right hand side suddenly becomes well populated.

    • Thanks: ic1000
  5. @res

    Thanks for your careful observations. I got into the supplementary materials earlier today, and had my own troubles integrating what I took to be two versions of chapter notes, but read and enjoyed them both. I haven’t started on all the other materials. After reading dux.ie and your replies I would like you both to dig deeper into the occupational IQ levels. I find them fascinating, because I had naively imagined that, whatever the pressure regarding diversity targets, tough exams would ensure that doctors and nurses were of consistently good quality, or at least passable standards. We must work on all this further.

    As to the military, over evening drinks I was discussing the findings, and realized I could not answer the simple question as to what the white and black soldiers IQs were. I wonder if those figures are available somewhere in the not very friendly sparse data released on military recruiting results.

  6. anonymous[358] • Disclaimer says:

    The only realistic solution is to promote race mixing.

    • Troll: James Speaks
  7. Rosie says:
    @dearieme

    “American majority thinking”: when I was young Americans confessed to this. They knew they were conformists. Hence my belief when young that the American notion of free speech was bogus because Americans were then far less free in speech than Britons, Aussies and so on.

    Now, however, the boot is on the other foot. Nobody in the Anglosphere is allowed free speech but at least Americans enjoy some protection from government restrictions on free speech. Unless you count back-door government restrictions via Twitter, YouTube, and so forth. Which I suppose you ought to.

    I also thought this was a strange comment. The powerful can always repress speech, whether that power is majoritarian or not. Moreover, cancel culture is driven by elites and depends on the media oligopoly. Moreover, there is something especially perverse about the people being persecuted for saying things that most people agree with. I suspect that, in de Toqueville’s time, PC had the purpose and effect of defending the people’s cherished beliefs and values rather than delegitimizing them. I see that as a problem, to be sure, but not as reprehensible as the current state of affairs.

    All that said, I certainly agree that the First Amendment is woefully inadequate. I would go further and ban discrimination based on political speech.

    By the way, I have never read the book Mr. Thompson references in the title. Nor do I have any interest in doing so. I am interested in that comma in the title, though. Anyone know it’s purpose?

    • Replies: @James Thompson
  8. @Rosie

    That one should cry for the country, not cry out that the country is beloved.

    • Thanks: Rosie
    • Replies: @dearieme
  9. dearieme says:
    @James Thompson

    I had assumed that you were inviting the country to sob. Which would have been mete.

    But the hot weather has probably addled my brain. I’m not evolved for it, the heat.

  10. @another fred

    As long as about 75% of Americans, the elites, the media, academia, politicians, celebrities and all Wokies…….. S C R E A M…..R A C I S T at anybody brings up IQ, crime stats, impulse control.

    Things will never change.

    The election of Barak Hussein Obama set back race relations in America 50 years…and he fully intended to do that… “Fundamental Transformation.”

    • Agree: Ace
    • Replies: @Mevashir
  11. @James Thompson

    James,

    If I need complicated surgery and have a choice….brain, heart, cancer, I surely I want the elite(Top of the Class) surgeon, not the guy who was ” at least passable. I don’t care what colour he or she is.

    I was very fortunate 21 years ago to have one such surgeon at Memorial Sloan Kettering in NYC. He was neither black or white.

    Thanks for this article.

  12. Anonymous[266] • Disclaimer says:

    (the military stand apart from all civilian occupations because they can use IQ tests, thus getting people of IQ 92.6+ and rejecting applicants despite their race) there’s no reason that civilian employers that used comparable procedures couldn’t achieve similar results. However, doing so would mean basing employment decisions not only on using an IQ cutoff but also on aptitude tests, both of which run the risk of violating the antidiscrimination laws that apply to civilians.

    Apparently scholarly psychometricians are clueless about the corrupt modern U.S. military recruitment process and what insiders call “falsification”. Particularly in some services and geographic areas.

    • Replies: @Resartus
  13. R.C. says:

    The intended goal (which looks to likely and sadly be soon achieved) is the end of what will, for some limited time after this ‘equality’/socialist/communist takeover proudly be called ‘the end of secular liberal – read, ‘white’ – civilization.’
    Of course, such will quickly fail – I’d guess five years max (ignoring the evil bastards playing with and intentionally destroying the economy.)
    Look to your own, folks. We ain’t killers – but they are.
    R.C.

    • Agree: Magic Dirt
  14. Alfa158 says:
    @anonymous

    Which is why it is being pushed by the Regime with such ferocity. Once Whites are a rarity there can’t be a troubling Black/White gap any more than there can be a Black/Martians gap.

  15. Pablo says:

    Monsieur de Tocqueville had it right then and he’s right now about the American psyche: “The majority has enclosed thought within a formidable fence. A writer is free inside that area, but woe to the man who goes beyond it,…” The typical American is in general not just ignorant about Politics, but VERY hardened in their opinions. They can be hostile to those who stray outside that fence of which de Tocqueville speaks. This is why too many people will jab their index finger into the air and shouting “USA! USA!! USA!!!”. They do this even though the USA is only #1 in things like creating Billionaires or warmongering in today’s World. I think de Tocqueville was referring in the above quote is how they always kill the messenger. Oscar Wilde has a quote that is very pertinent here: “If you want to tell people the Truth, do it with Humor. Otherwise they will kill you.”

  16. ” Cry The Beloved Country ” was the book penned by Alan Paton on South Africa –wasn’t it?” and my old high school textbooks have long been gien away—I think Pugsley now has it.

    • Replies: @Dutch Boy
  17. Mark G. says:

    Many suburban whites have not had extensive contact with inner city blacks so they are more likely to believe that differences in educational or economic achievement between whites and blacks is due to racism. I was like that myself when I was younger. Then I lived in a neighborhood that went through a slow decline for several years followed by a rapid decline after a nearby army base closed, causing most of the whites who worked there to move away. All the empty apartments caused a big decline in area rents and allowed large numbers of ghetto blacks to move in.

    I didn’t move out fast enough and went through a large number of unpleasant experiences with surly and hostile black neighbors. A lot of these people seemed more stupid than I ever thought anyone could possibly be. It really opened my eyes to the reality of racial differences. I quickly moved away, never to return. I’m not really a racist but I am an IQist and the large percentage of blacks with low IQ levels makes it impossible for most of them to ever integrate into white society. Once whites learn what they are like they will make extreme efforts to get away from them, as I did.

    • Agree: CelestiaQuesta
    • Replies: @Currahee
    , @Cato
  18. When is American going to decline and finally fall, disintegrate and in bits and piece find some way to deal with their issues without bothering the world anymore

    like I was attracted to this because of the headlines then I remembered I had read Thompson previously found him to be in all and probability working for interest using race and focusing on Black Americans as some sort of distraction or a set up: setting up Black people as targets in elitist war to keep their state in the America primary

    That is what I think the race articles and issues on the Unz is about…race propaganda for elitist purposes, keeping all their options for creating massive violent distractions in America that would consume lots of lives and cause exceeding damage permitting a reconstruction of the same old way when it is all done, with the ordinary folk worse off, even weaker than they were before they were segued into the most apt trouble at incensed point, as indicated by the propaganda..in this case racist propaganda like this from Thompson above

    I will not even bother to read Thompson fully. I got as far as I could before regurgitation set in. I did not see any truth in what I read, nor ordinary honest intelligence and insight. What I saw was propaganda, incitement to rage and anger, intent to cause a fight between Blacks and whites sooner or later, instigated for whomever is paying Mr. Thompson’s bill

    • LOL: Currahee
    • Troll: Redman, Detroit Refugee
  19. “EQUITY” is the poison that finally kills the ENTIRE west.

    Calling it aggressive AA is the understatement of the entire American history.

    • Agree: Old and Grumpy
  20. Ghali says:

    Charles Murray is sick to the bone. He is a psychopath and reviewing his rubbish is a waste of time and resources. It is an insult to de Tocqueville to compare him to a racist Zionist.

  21. Franz says:
    @anonymous

    Norman Podhoretz at Commentary was way ahead of you. From February, 1963 —

    “I believe that the wholesale merging of the two races is the most desirable alternative for everyone concerned.”

    From My Negro Problem — and Ours

    https://www.commentary.org/articles/norman-podhoretz/my-negro-problem-and-ours/

    • Replies: @Old and Grumpy
    , @El Dato
  22. earned his status as the American de Tocqueville.

    Clearly you meant,

    American de Milquetoast

    It’s a very common mistake…

    • Agree: 3g4me
  23. @res

    Mostly, I enjoy your overly pedantic and quantitative comments. But in this case, really?

    Is there a dearth of evidence? Are the facts seriously in dispute? Have the facts truthfully ever been in dispute? Is this seriously a matter where we need to rely on probability and statistics, or has this forever been a case of simple recognition and common sense?

    This question is really one of “those who can see” versus “those who refuse to see.”

    • Agree: Bro43rd
    • Thanks: JackOH
    • Replies: @res
  24. Academicians like Murray miss the point when attempting to explain the intractable problems the U.S. has today and indeed, the entire Western World. They are not even close to what the crux of the matter is with their analysis of I.Q’s, cultures, races and idiotic ideas about the problems of “fairness”. In the U.S.and Canada, all of these problems began when the European-American elite capitulated on the duties that they inherited when their ancestors conquered North America AND Canada. Those duties included everything a victorious people need to do to keep their power and thus their way of life. Victory defines what your duties are. It’s not rocket science. Rome lasted as long as it did because the central creed it lived by was the duties a Roman citizen had. When those duties were ignored, for corrupt politically expedient reasons, then the fall of Rome began. The principle is often expressed as either, lead, follow or get out of the way.

    • Thanks: CelestiaQuesta
    • Replies: @Goddard
  25. ziggurat says:

    If a minority consisting of 13% of the population can generate as much political energy and solidarity as America’s Blacks have, what happens when a large proportion of the 60% of the population that is White begins to use the same playbook? 118

    It’s actually the 13% + 2% that generated the political energy, but that’s a minor quibble.

    The larger question is a good one. What does happen if Whites actually start to defend their self-interests against ant-whiteism?

    https://antiwhiteism.com/

  26. @James Thompson

    I had naively imagined that, whatever the pressure regarding diversity targets, tough exams would ensure that doctors and nurses were of consistently good quality

    Naive is more than a little understatement.

    It’s mind boggling really how many “good” whites who will opine on the subject without spending even a single night sleeping among the Africans. Experts all. Recounting the statistics collected by others (all too filled with temerity to live among them).

    I would absolutely horrify you with first hand experiences, and no doubt earn your condemnation as an evil racist. Bad ghetto honkie! But the last laugh will certainly be mine if our current political paradigm comes to fruition. Honestly though, schadenfreude is not nearly as tasty or satisfying as one might expect..

    I guess you’re going to earn your cynicism the same way that I did.

  27. @dearieme

    He may soon be hearing,”Hello I am Dr. Mfubongo!”

    • Replies: @Dave Bowman
  28. I think it’s more a book that speaks to future historians who will wonder what happened to us. Our political system cannot and will never accept these ideas. Everyone wants to encourage young Black people to achieve success. So, we have made it as easy as possible for them to be successful if they want. We all politely accept that reality in the same way that you would cheer a Special Olympian sprinter and affirm that they run fast. There is no point to noting that the Special Olympian isn’t really all that fast of a runner compared to “normal” athletes. The whole world is a set of games where winners and losers are mostly chosen by the wealthy for personal or political reasons. Hardly anything requires merit or aptitude anymore. White people love to yammer on about Engineering and Medicine but in reality we aren’t all that great at those fields in general either.

    It should also be noted that the explanation that Murray often gives about how you can’t generalize from your own personal Bell Curve to make inferences about individuals goes both ways. People cite that as a reason for evaluating each Black person individually on their own merits but usually overlook the reverse application, viz. just because you are of European stock doesn’t mean you are even remotely as intelligent as Newton or Leibniz. You should be evaluated individually rather than basking in the glow of the Bell Curve. Oddly though, white people tend to read into Murray’s work that they are personally probably smarter than other people while accepting that Asians are even smarter. The true conclusion you should draw is that you are probably a lot dumber than you think.

    In short, the mere fact that you are reading this is proof that you are a moron living on the left hand side of the Bell Curve Murray is discussing.

  29. “Ordinarily, you can’t insult people into agreeing with you, but White guilt is a real thing. ”
    “White guilt” ? An person can feel guilt or shame for their own actions. Possibly they may feel the same when someone close to them acts badly. However, guilt in the abstract is either impossible or profoundly ridiculous. What can it possibly mean when one says (say) “I feel such guilt for the old South” ?
    How? Why? Guilt for actions commuted by many people 200 odd years ago? I feel so guilty that Rome pushed Carthage into the 3rd Punic War?
    I would suggest that on encountering “white guilt” one treat the person as a moral masturbater or as a sad sheep.
    These are the LAST kind of people who should be determining cultural practices.

    • Agree: Magic Dirt
  30. utu says:

    Abolish races. Congress must pass the Social Serenity Act. Anybody making any statement or argument on the presumption of racial differences is charged with violating the Social Serenity Act. Under the Social Serenity Act affirmative action is not possible so it is abolished. Under the Social Serenity act Steve Sailer, Charles Murray and James Thompson are sentenced to life imprisonment as habitual offenders not worth the resocialization effort. They spend the rest of their lives sharing cells with BLM activists who were sentences for the same offenses under the same law.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  31. gotmituns says:
    @johnnyuinta

    The guy who was top of his class might only be a so-so surgeon. The guy who only just passed might very well be the better surgeon. I’ve known a lot of guys who were great in a classroom but when they got out in the field they weren’t anything special.

    • Replies: @johnnyuinta
    , @botazefa
  32. Larry says:

    The article is a paradox, as are all of its kind.

    One the one hand, it makes self-serving claims of higher intelligence.

    One the other hand, it decries the suicidal stupidity of such higher intelligence.

    No wonder the alleged imbeciles are forcing you to kneel.

    You deserve no better.

  33. “The return to an embrace of the American creed must be a celebration of America’s original ideal of equality under the law. 124”

    This equality?

    “Multivariate analysis indicates that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while average citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no independent influence. The results provide substantial support for theories of Economic-Elite Domination and for theories of Biased Pluralism, but not for theories of Majoritarian Electoral Democracy or Majoritarian Pluralism. “
    https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/S1537592714001595

    Don’t look over there at the plutocrats and the M.I.C., there is nothing to see?

  34. Mevashir says:
    @johnnyuinta

    He was neither black NOR white.

  35. Mevashir says:
    @johnnyuinta

    Obama was Kenyan with mixed race parentage. I believe he is extremely intelligent. There was a study done in South Africa by two black researchers a number of years ago. It said that American black slaves came from the lower Echelons of African society. They were POWs in intertribal warfare, slaves, and criminals who were sold by African tribal chieftains to European slave traders. Thus, even without discussing all of their many socioeconomic disadvantages such as growing up in fatherless families, American blacks are less intelligent than indigenous African blacks. However I accept that African blacks may be less intelligent than Caucasians and Asians:

    https://qz.com/africa/1676892/race-science-published-from-stellenbosch-cape-town-universities/
    But this wasn’t the only recent scientific article in South Africa to face fierce criticism on its methodology and treatment of race. A second paper, also published in March in the Journal of Interdisciplinary Economics, claimed to show that inhabitants of countries with lower IQs were more likely to be sold as slaves between the 15th and 20th centuries. Following an outcry, the co-author resigned from his position as an adjunct professor at the UCT.

  36. onebornfree says: • Website

    “The book is crystal clear: aggressive affirmative action is poisoning American society. ”

    Yes, exactly.

    The book is just (yet) another clear demonstration of the fact that government “solutions” to society’s supposed problems never work – in fact, they _always_ make a problem even worse than it was before it’s interference.

    It’s no different than for any other perceived problem, such as (alleged) global warming, or an (alleged) pandemic.

    “Divide and Conquer”?

    I have no proof right now, but I strongly suspect that the original instigators of racial preference legislation were well aware that government interference in race relations would actually make the situation even worse, and that the real agenda was to increase racial tensions in order to get everyone distracted and fighting amongst themselves. Classic “divide and conquer” tactics, in other words.

    “Government is a disease masquerading as its own cure” Robert LeFevere

    “Everything government touches turns to crap” Ringo Starr

    “Government doesn’t work” Harry Browne
    https://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Why_Government_Doesn%27t_Work

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Agree: Bro43rd
  37. @johnnyuinta

    With today’s AA intrusion in to critical fields, the surgeon you get might be less capable than a student who was denied admission to medical school to make room for the AA students.

    • Agree: johnnyuinta
  38. moi says:
    @dearieme

    America is built on myths.

  39. @johnnyuinta

    Agreed, and thanks to you!
    If you read Fred Reed’s articles, one learns that one of the top eye surgeons in the world is someone born in Gaza, of all places, transported to Lebanon, studied in the US and became an American citizen. It is best, in my opinion, to keep an open mind, as I have been disappointed many times by my own pre-conceptions.

    • Agree: johnnyuinta
    • Replies: @dindunuffins
  40. Stonewall Jackson [AKA "Joker"] says:

    The usual affirmative action discussion involves America’s Internal Afghanistan as David Cole put it in Taki Mag… that is blacks. But the reality is, is that the borders are gone and this whole polyglot boarding house is soon to be damn near majority Latin…

    As HL Mencken put it.. if a politician learns that his constituents are cannibals, he will be serving missionaries for lunch by noon.

    So what happens to this affirmative action enterprise when the scum that is the politicos now have to cater to the brown not black folk.

    There is only so much that can be carved up in affirmative action.

    I know Ronnie Unz thinks that Latinos are the greatest thing since sliced tortillas.. but sorry Unz, Central America is not sending us Asian engineers…

    Yeah it’s over.

  41. onebornfree says: • Website

    “The popular pastime of modern democracies of punishing the diligent and thrifty, while rewarding the lazy, improvident, and unthrifty, is cultivated via the State, fulfilling a demo-egalitarian program based on a demo-totalitarian ideology.

    Democratic tyranny, evolving on the sly as a slow and subtle corruption leading to total State control, is thus the third and by no means rarest road to the most modern form of slavery.” Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn

    • Agree: Getaclue
  42. “The prospects for reform do not look good, since the current administration is in favour of race-based policies, and of immigration.”

    It’s high time to turn in those 500 million guns and the excess ammo that has been bought up in the last few years, since it’s never going to be used for the defense of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. Cest la vie!

  43. oneworld says:

    It’s a common misconception that medical/surgical competence is necessarily correlated with IQ. As a practicing surgeon, involved in training surgeons, I can tell you that surgical skill is only partly related to academic ability. Some of the best surgeons were not the strongest academically, and vice versa. I’ve seen many brilliant medical students and residents who were “all thumbs” in the operating room. Surgery is a decidedly non-abstract activity, while abstract reasoning ability is strongly related to IQ.
    Some of the worst clinical doctors I’ve ever encountered have been from Harvard Medical School, though they were clearly intellectually gifted.

    • Agree: Bert, Getaclue, utu
    • Thanks: Miro23
    • Replies: @dearieme
    , @SafeNow
    , @Anon
  44. BluEidDvl says:
    @another fred

    I know 😒. I’ve come to the realization that if we as a people & a civilization are to survive then the U.S. has to be destroyed (at least in it’s current incarnation). It is Zio-America (& it’s lapdog Britain) that have taken us & our civilization to the precipice of oblivion. It is American “culture” that has morally corrupted the entire planet. We’ve created an ugly, depraved, filthy world for our children/grandchildren. This hideously degenerate jewified, n#ggrified society belongs in the ash heap of history. We didn’t have to accept abortion on demand, no fault divorce, radical feminism, affirmative action, set asides & racial quotas, pornography everywhere, gay pride parades, transgender “storytime”, negro worship everywhere, embrace of sick ghetto “culture”, a complete elimination of anything approaching beauty/standards/merit/decency, young White girls looking/behaving like complete whores, young White men behaving like degenerate nogs, etc, etc, etc.. and we destroyed the one country that tried to end this sick zio-reality..

    No, we didn’t have to accept/embrace this reality but we did, & with zeal & fervor because “muh freedoms”, “Murica”. If there is a god or such a thing as karma then I shudder for what our future holds.. 😔

  45. onebornfree says: • Website

    “No, we didn’t have to accept/embrace this reality but we did, & with zeal & fervor because “muh freedoms””

    So presumably, you oppose your own freedom, right? 😂

    “Regards” onebornfree

  46. onebornfree says: • Website
    @Mevashir

    “Obama was Kenyan with mixed race parentage. I believe he is extremely intelligent.”

    Regardless of place of birth, he’s the son of a CIA father and is most likely CIA himself.

    He is also a Marxist, which makes him super stupid, economically speaking.

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Agree: johnnyuinta
  47. @Franz

    Just cross breeding the two? That’s odd given Asian dominance academia. Won’t the future darken mutts feel slighted about that unfairness? Guess that makes the black knockout game on Asians pre-emptive.

    • Replies: @Franz
  48. Dr. Doom says:

    The prospect of taking ameliorative action to accommodate other races is laughable.
    America doesn’t need other races to function.
    Its a superpower all in White.

    The Jews have caused these problems. They and their heretic Babylonian Talmud.
    The Jews are the problem. They must needs be removed through any means necessary.

    There is no successful black community anywhere.
    Its all a Big Lie. And a piss poor one at that.

    Taking America towards Third World Status is a Crime Against Humanity.
    It should be treated as such, and the traitors in Washington should hang for it.

    That small eruption of patriotism that followed Trump was just a harbinger.
    Nothing can stop an idea whose time has come.

    White Identity is now a REAL THING. You cannot put it back or roll it back.
    All those stupid “celebrations” about the end of White Power did the trick.

    Murray is a fossil of an age gone long past.
    There is no fairness in race based policies.

    The Jews are the dumbest creatures on the planet, in my honest opinion.
    They are trying to create a situation where they marginalize the majority.

    You can see how they are panic filled with dumbass Biden and his border problem.
    They cannot help themselves. The Jew is born stupid and stays that way.

    They are the only creatures on Earth dumb enough to Trust Satan.
    That’s infamy level STUPID.

    • Replies: @Dave Bowman
  49. @BluEidDvl

    I don’t believe we were asked nor even told of the real objectives. We were fed simple slogans and a diet of fear. We’re fools. No doubt about that. The elites are doing your desired destruction of the US. They win and still stand. Is that really good? Them hanging like ornaments on tree branches seems better option to me.

    • Agree: BluEidDvl
  50. Z-man says:

    As I said in a post on the article accompanying this one by Philip Giraldi;

    If you add the internal decay including destroying the middle class by ‘the elite’ and importing millions of 3rd World immigrants into the country to replace us, try to anyway, this country is cooked.
    And we all know who perpetrated this. ‘Nuff said.’

  51. @utu

    Anybody making any statement or argument on the presumption of racial differences is charged with violating the Social Serenity Act.

    …as long as what he (it will be a he most llikely) says is not in favor of Blacks.

  52. dearieme says:
    @oneworld

    Why don’t medical schools test for physical co-ordination before entry?

  53. anonymous[311] • Disclaimer says:

    The solution. Eliminate all forms of government-sponsored preferential treatments by race.

    Murray correctly diagnosed America’s problems but fell short on the solution. As David Cole pointed out in his latest piece The Dysgenic Duo in Taki magazine, America cannot survive both blacks and Jews. The former always need to be taken care of like children, while the latter could not shake their revolutionary impulse and always need someone to fight for. Together they are locked in a deadly embrace:
    https://www.takimag.com/article/the-dysgenic-duo/

    The only way out for the Western world is to send all Jews to Israel then cut them off completely from the outside world, including most importantly, the internet. Then we can pass laws that repatriate all blacks, browns and yellows back to their respective continents. Multicultural societies are failed societies.

  54. JackOH says:

    Thanks, Dr. Thompson.

    The barriers to opening political space for adequate debate are damn near insuperable in my opinion. You’d have to persuade Blacks and White liberals that being judged as fairly as possible by the content of one’s character and the quality of one’s abilities is a hallmark of American-ness. That hiring preferences based on the “collective” one belongs to (race, class, ethnicity, tribe, etc.) are a feature of defunct European empires, African shitholes, Middle East quagmires, and so on.

    You’d have to persuade White women, who’ve benefited enormously from affirmative action, that they’ve been played by our managerial-capitalist class, who’ve become very okay with docile if catty women in non-trad positions. They’re willing to accept somewhat lower pay, and they don’t exert nearly as much pressure on wages and salaries as onetime male breadwinners did.

    I used to be a pretty good salesman, but I don’t see how you could argue the end of toxic affirmative action benefits for its beneficiaries, and the restoration of customary norms in hiring, without getting pelted with bushels of rotten tomatos.

    • Thanks: Jim Christian
  55. El Dato says:
    @Franz

    Pious trash from a time when _Schwartze_ weren’t big trouble yet, nobody talked about China (except Nixon) and people couldn’t even find Vietnam on a map and Soros was just getting started with world saviour work.

    “As a Jewish observer…”

    [MORE]

    So with the mechanism of projection that the psychologists talk about: it too works in both directions at once. There is no question that the psychologists are right about what the Negro represents symbolically to the white man. For me as a child the life lived on the other side of the playground and down the block on Ralph Avenue seemed the very embodiment of the values of the street—free, independent, reckless, brave, masculine, erotic. I put the word “erotic” last, though it is usually stressed above all others, because in fact it came last, in consciousness as in importance.

    We all went home every day for a lunch of spinach-and-potatoes; they roamed around during lunch hour, munching on candy bars. In winter we had to wear itchy woolen hats and mittens and cumbersome galoshes; they were bare-headed and loose as they pleased. We rarely played hookey, or got into serious trouble in school, for all our street-corner bravado; they were defiant, forever staying out (to do what delicious things?), forever making disturbances in class and in the halls, forever being sent to the principal and returning uncowed. But most important of all, they were tough; beautifully, enviably tough, not giving a damn for anyone or anything. To hell with the teacher, the truant officer, the cop; to hell with the whole of the adult world that held us in its grip and that we never had the courage to rebel against except sporadically and in petty ways.

    It’s really watching “Escape from New York”. But when you finally have to REALLY escape New York, it’s far less exciting.

    However

    But that is by no means the whole story; there is also the phenomenon of what Kenneth Rexroth once called “crow-jimism.” There are the broken-down white boys like Vivaldo Moore in Baldwin’s Another Country who go to Harlem in search of sex or simply to brush up against something that looks like primitive vitality, and who are so often punished by the Negroes they meet for crimes that they would have been the last ever to commit and of which they themselves have been as sorry victims as any of the Negroes who take it out on them. There are the writers and intellectuals and artists who romanticize Negroes and pander to them, assuming a guilt that is not properly theirs. And there are all the white liberals who permit Negroes to blackmail them into adopting a double standard of moral judgment, and who lend themselves—again assuming the responsibility for crimes they never committed—to cunning and contemptuous exploitation by Negroes they employ or try to befriend.

    Yes. That.

    • Agree: Franz
  56. If I were to write a book about Charles Murray and his Bell Curve, it might be titled “Facing the Reality about Charles Murray: Two Truths about Racial Construction in America”. What do I mean by that?

    First Truth: If I were a conspiracy theorist, I would point out that Murray once worked for the CIA. This is even documented on Wikipedia. How do we know he still isn’t a paid operative of the CIA? This sounds nutty doesn’t it? So let’s go to Truth No. 2 to understand this.

    Second Truth; Murray’s writings propound a social fiction of sorts that there is a difference in intelligence by race as manifested in a paper and pencil test of IQ. But Murray, unlike say Thomas Sowell, doesn’t point out that Blacks who emigrated to the US from the West Indies have high IQ’s and are very successful. How did this come about? Because of the cultural legacy of British Colonialism and schooling. West Indian Blacks have more “modernized” minds but not destroyed family structures (see sociologist Peter Berger, The Homeless Mind: Modernization and Technology).

    Again, if I were a conspiracy theorist I would suspect that Murray’s role is to perpetuate the social construction of racial inferiority of American Blacks to brain wash conservatives that Blacks are inherently inferior and to brain wash policy makers into justifying Affirmative Action (while at the same time condemning it). Isn’t this just an intended diversionary tactic to keep us from seeing the real racism afoot in America on the part of the Left?

    The horrible legacy of Reconstruction, the War on Poverty, the ruining of urban schools, have decimated Black families, co-opted Black religion (ML King and his speech writer Stanley Levison), destroyed Black males perhaps except for professional sports, as well as denying Blacks real property which is a financial legacy that can be passed on. There is now no way to assess intelligence based on a paper and pen test (that actually measures the degree of modernization of the mind, not race). IQ is a diversion to keep us from seeing how social policies have ruined the intellect of American Blacks. Blacks are culturally “backward” having been confined to plantations, ghettos, and now brain washing re-education camp universities.

    American conservatives and libertarians can be seduced into believing Murray’s social construction of racial reality without recognizing that social class and culture, not race, are more important. And religion, however co-opted, is also important. American liberals and Leftists don’t need to be so seduced because they are the fabricators and beneficiaries of such a social fiction. There is no such thing as race — but there is culture and class.

    Italian sociologist Vilfredo Pareto wrote: “When it is useful to them, men can believe a theory of which they know nothing more than its name….Men follow their sentiments and self interest, but it pleases them to imagine that they follow reason”. Such is the theory of Charles Murray, diversionist par excellance.

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
  57. Based on what he saw in America in 1831 de Toqueville believed that the assimilation of black people would be almost impossible. Writing this year, Murray believes that if the facts about black intelligence and crime are faced, and if whites stick to the American creed, and race-based affirmative legislation is cancelled, then equality under the law will be restored, and assimilation may yet be possible.

    Murray wants nice American things without the affirmative segregation and discrimination that you must have to keep your nice things. I bet Murray’s neighborhood is pretty white and expensive. Does Murray really think the America of the “good old days” (whichever era exists in his head) was a racially egalitarian meritocracy? It absolutely was not and never has been. We are approaching the third generation of an experiment that has been failing since 1965.

    A pretty decent rule of thumb is if group A won’t sleep with group B’s women, then there will never be a group AB. At a full standard deviation in IQ below whites, blacks are not going to assimilate into white American culture. There are simply not enough intelligent black men nor sexually attractive black women for inter-marriage to be anything but a marginal phenomenon. The actual effect of black culture is extremely toxic.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  58. Murray is a modern day American De Toqueville? Try a modern American Lysenko.

  59. Jim H says:

    ‘a general rule of thumb would be to avoid all black professionals’ — James Thompson

    Stereotype much?

    One can wholly agree with Charles Murray about group differences, yet still find Mr Thompson’s statement crude and ignorant.

    ‘All Brits are elitist twats’ would be equally broad-brush and equally offensive.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
  60. SafeNow says:
    @oneworld

    “It’s a common misconception that medical/surgical competence is necessarily correlated with IQ….”

    It is not a misconception. There is a widely used quote by Dr. Frank Spencer in 1978, stating “A skillfully performed operation is about 75% decision making and 25% dexterity”. There is a paucity of research attempting to pin this down, because the role of intraoperative surgical judgment cannot be precisely quantified. But the Spencer formulation seems to be widely accepted, and it is difficult to find professions in which general intelligence does merely “correlate” with proficiency, but rather, is the most important correlate.

  61. Miro23 says:

    One possibility is to draw a parallel with Yeltsin’s Russia. A weak President is surrounded by oligarchs who gain the freedom to loot the place. They control the media/politics/finance/law and set everything up for maximum wealth transfer to themselves.

    Why would they use their political/legal/media power to promote Blacks?

    One viable answer would be to bolster claims to be the leading cadre for “social justice”, leading the fight against the “racists” (identified as the white lower and middle class). There’s the dual advantage of making themselves the ethical leaders for a more “equal” US and at the same time demonizing a whole class of counter revolutionaries (traditionalist whites).

    While the US is tied in knots with this fabricated BS they loot the place down to the last dollar. No accident that US healthcare, education and military expenditure offer about the worst comparative value for money in the world.

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  62. @res

    I think the GMAT exclusion was an oversight by Murray. The GRE, which he does use, is accepted by all the b-schools now but the GMAT is still the gold standard. Surprised someone as knowledgeable about major standardized tests as Murray would miss it.

    The overseers of the GMAT, called GMAC, have lots of publicly available data on racial breakdowns on scores. Suffice it to say the results, year in and year out, are very much in line with the other major standardized test results. So Murray’s oversight doesn’t affect his material conclusions.

    • Replies: @res
  63. Escher says:
    @dearieme

    Is he might hear “¿hablas español?”

  64. @Wayne Lusvardi

    I have a lot of sympathy for your position. I don’t agree with Murray’s biologism either, but I’ve reached the same conclusion on quite other and stronger principles. The only way out of America’s malaise is to start applying the same standards to everyone. If that leaves some groups with a “disparate impact,” so be it.

    • Replies: @Joseph Doaks
  65. @Miro23

    (((They))) use blacks as a weapon against whites because they have an atavistic hatred for white Christians,

    because white Christians kicked their sorry asses out at least 109 times.

    The looting is a given.

    Regarding the promotion of black professionals…..if I board a plane and see a black pilot….my ass is getting off that plane.

    • Agree: CelestiaQuesta
    • Replies: @CelestiaQuesta
  66. Anon[176] • Disclaimer says:
    @oneworld

    I’m writing bcuz you’re a doctor.
    What are your thoughts re efficacy of ivermectin for preventing/treating covid? I ask bcuz in a previous comment elsewhere at Unz, you cautioned against hydroxycoroquine.

    Also, can u recommend a lab that will analyze a medication to ensure its purity & genuineness? I would greatly appreciate if u could reply here with contact info for any such labs you are aware of.

    Thank you.

  67. Dutch Boy says:

    I thought the Z Man at Taki’s had the most appropriate reaction to Murray’s book:
    https://www.takimag.com/article/a-book-without-an-audience/

    • Agree: Robert Bruce
    • Replies: @Robert Bruce
  68. When all the toxic racial favoritism towards blacks and POC have failed to uplift blacks from savagery, violent crime and gansta rap culture, there’s one other solution available to genocide white America, go for the kill. Do what the illegitimate Biden Regime did and declare every white who doesn’t take a knee for Magic Negro’s and Global Homo a “White Supremacists”, and those that publicly voice their grievances “Domestic Terrorists”.

    The Illegitimate Biden Regime along with his (((money handlers))), with Obama calling the shots in the background, have called checkmate on America and the world. Every form of chaos around the world is a fire started by deep state goons hellbent on destabilizing any and all efforts to dismantle the (((new world orders global reset))).

    After releasing a weaponized SARS virus globally, it failed to achieve desired death numbers, Fucci and his NIH/CDC/WHO/Mossad bio-terror units have now released new and improved variants to spike global death results. It’s revealing how these deadly pathogens appear all at once around the world, as if strategically placed in the right areas, at the right time.
    It’s not over till it’s all over.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
    • Replies: @Joseph Doaks
  69. The book title is FACING REALITY.

    We should all face reality. It’s the only correct way of operating in life and when reality is ignored, all kinds of mistakes come about. One reality is the U.S. establishment media and the leftist forums operating by the thousands. They take reality and turn it around. For example, this latest story on Yahoo’s political section. It’s title is, Republican Lies about Jan. 6 are costing “Us” our ability to believe anything.” LOL

    So, here is a time saving rule that one can keep in mind, anytime one knows that they are reading the title of a leftist article, book, magazine,etc. Simply turn the meaning of the title around 180 degrees. You will always avoid being fooled in this way, unless of course, you are like rep, Jerry Nadler, D, who when asked by a reporter why democrats like himself don’t call for an end to rioting and mayhem by ANTIFA, BLM, and other violent leftist groups? Nadler said, “these things don’t happen”.

    He must be reading stories like, “Republicans lies about Jan.6 are costing us our ability to believe anything.

    • Agree: Joseph Doaks
  70. @Magic Dirt

    White Americans are dumb as dirt, lacking scruples, and fortitude. Too many let others( Fox News, MSNBC, etc do there thinking for them.

    • Replies: @Dr. Charles Fhandrich
  71. @Robert Dolan

    I agree 100%, if they can list basic ingredients, calories, and origin on vast majority of consumer products, I should have the right to know who the hell is captain flying the plane, or driving the bus, train, taxi, Uber ad infinitum.
    This blind blackout will be the death of many.

  72. @Dutch Boy

    Yeah, the Zman pretty much skewered Murray about the conclusion of the book. Murray seems more worried about some sort of blowback, than the fact whites are getting the shaft.

    • Agree: Dutch Boy
  73. Mike Tre says:
    @Jim H

    “Stereotype much?”

    Yes, and so do you. Discrimination and stereotyping are natural traits, and a requisite of survival. Only a fool believes otherwise.

    “‘All Brits are elitist twats’ would be equally broad-brush…” and a dishonest comparison. Yours is a pejorative. Thompson’s is a suggestion, and in my vast experience in working along side negroes, well worth following.

    Regardless, so what. Avoid Brits if they give you butt hurt. That’s the whole point. Sadly, whites are no longer allowed to avoid negroes.

    Take your hollow indignation elsewhere. To the ghetto if it makes you feel any better.

    • Agree: Joseph Doaks
  74. His sympathies are with small town America, and with the average guy in an average job.

    This is simply incorrect. Murray’s sympathies lie with the cognitive elite to which he belongs. He has no concern about a society where high-IQ individuals of any race rise to the top because he – and his family – won the genetic lottery.

    His life will be quite nice. He will be surrounded by witty banter at faculty parties. What a joy. Murray’s “people” are other high-IQ individuals. They are the people that he feels a connection, the people who will rule over him via government and business, i.e. he will live among and be ruled by his people.

    Average whites aren’t so lucky. Their people are their fellow whites. But Murray is abhorred by the idea that they should be allowed to live among and be ruled by their people. Instead, they should live among a rainbow of races with similar IQs but very dissimilar levels of ethnocentrism.

    Murray acknowledges that there are different races (population groups, if you will) but refuses to contemplate that people of a race – an extended family – might feel a special connection to other members of their race because he doesn’t feel that same connection.

    Murray is like English and European nobility of the past. Their people were their fellow nobles, whom they were usually related, not the peasants.

    Murray is worried that the peasants are getting restless.

  75. Tests crush Testes

  76. @BluEidDvl

    What you described is the real Global Homo Anti-White pandemic encircling the planet and galaxy.
    There is a cure, lead injection.

    • Agree: BluEidDvl
    • Replies: @BluEidDvl
  77. AReply says:

    The thinking in this article is so horrible and devoid of general understanding of knowledge as to put a cone on its head and sit in the corner displaying a giant F on its back.

    The authors parades a profound ignorance of epistemology in the same cultural terms as he decries: he blames others as losers in terms of his own incapacity to think,

    The goal of government (free society) is to protect, support, and advance the commons, not ensure a institutionally-defined spectrum of intellectual performance. The objective is to ensure and raise living conditions for all, not gratify an insular stratum of exceptional privilege.

    It comes down precisely to the Enlightenment principle being able to live and think as you will, trusting in God’s nature to divine meaning and purpose in life, unyoked by the tyranny of expectations of overlords, so that each and every man (person) may grow to the fullest expression of his being, under a contract known only to man under God.

    [MORE]

    Strip the God part out and replace it with any awareness of the Platonic constellation of goodness, truth and beauty married to the nature of life as nasty, brutish and short where every man is on an epic journey through a cosmos of unknown dimensions, oriented by the stars.

    It’s a conservative tenet that it’s up to you to learn, know and decide what your will and purposes are under this constellation and where it will lead. And that you don’t do it alone. It’s up to a society of the wise to recognize and encourage the best of itself, which means first and foremost fully caring for others; there but for the grace of God go I.

    James Thompson confuses self aspiration with the denigration of an unwanted other out of fear that his ideal is being polluted by a mob of beasts and demons who lack the capacity of human thought and will overrun him and his faire lady. Just like if Hitler was a Scot! (Godwin’s Law is oxymoronic).

    The righteous measure of power is the creative construction of the commons. Under the trust that through others there can be the fullest expression of a life which ultimately lost in each of us, but regained everlasting in our mutual experience.

    What every powerful man must face is that he isn’t in control of his life except in the pursuit of his noblest ambitions, just as every weak man must face power.

    Either you have some hope or you don’t, and if you do you see it as something good, to be nurtured, in those you most dislike. But American popular conservative thought keeps draining down into a shithole of how unfair everything has become for white people, as white people never had a chance to arrange a just world. White grievance is a complaint from within, that speaks to the failure of meritocracy and its quantitative presuppositions for meaning in life. Counting cases of dysentery is meaningful to public health. Counting MBAs bequeathed to a new generation is not meaningful.

    The loss of hope in the others, especially based on a purely subjective criteria of form or manner, attended by a dream of destruction of the impure, is a Devil’s path, because it is the loss of hope in yourself. Hate what you will, but never confuse your anger for righteousness.

    Why do I feel the need to even write this here? This good news is as old as this hills, and the ideological bedrock of conservative America. What has happened to conservative values, here? Why is this site so well attended by passive-aggressive overgrown children griping that the nanny state makes something for lunch besides just PB&J on white with the crusts cut off?

    Want a better world? Try helping people you like. Avoid shitting on people you don’t like.

    Want to see a true waste of American society? Look at the U.S. “defense” department!

    As to why people will sit in their own filth, it typically attends the fallout of some trauma or social disruption, or the lack of basic hygiene and guidance during growth. An advanced society can handle it, because we aspire beyond greed to arrange our world in a Platonic order, and accept and endure the messiness of life. We are no longer an advanced society by such reckoning. And we have to face that this has been a “white” failure, a conservative failure, and that the Republicans are fully, completely and totally batshit crazy in their objective to help an extremely regressive monied class hold power against the popular will.

    AS TO ALL THE FUCKING FASCISTS OUT THERE LIKE THE AUTHOR OF THIS ARTICLE, AND THE RACISTS, BIGOTS, AND IMBECILES PARROTING HIM, IN SOME VAIN HOPE THAT SOME LEAGUE OF PINKERTONS WILL IMPOSE IDEOLOGICAL METRICS FOR EXCLUSION BASED ON OBSESSING ABOUT THE PURITY OF THEIR BLOOD… HISTORY RELEGATED YOU TO THE MID 20TH CENTURY. THE POLITICS OF EXCLUSION ARE FINISHED.

    TRY WORKING FOR SOMETHING YOU BELIEVE IN. AND IF THE ONLY THING YOU BELIEVE IN IS BEING WHITE YOU MIGHT LOOK INTO ANAL BLEACHING TO IMPROVE YOUR SEX APPEAL.

  78. @Robert Bruce

    Unfortunately I agree. Just one single example drives your point home to myself at least. How many white parents have allowed the schools their children attend to teach Critical Race Theory, a subject dedicated to denigrating and belittling white children? They can no longer plead ignorance, unless these parents are living somewhere in Siberia. The people who teach it say it’s not that simple. Oh, yes it is, It’s that simple to anyone who has ears and a few brain cells that still rub together. The simple solution that would NIX, DESTROY, ELIMINATE, all attempts by the radical left to continue to by sneaky and teach it never the less, is obvious. ALL teachers, professors, assistants MUST, MUST, wear the same equipment the left made the police wear. Then, parents can review, what their kids are being taught by the “teachers”.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Corvinus
  79. pyrrhus says:
    @another fred

    Meritocratic America, to the extent that it existed, is dead..Between political correctness and federal law that mandates women and minorities by hired for positions they are incompetent to fill, on one hand, and fierce nepotism on the part of certain ethnic groups and the upper classes, on the other, the highly able white male had better work for himself, because he won’t get into any of the lucrative upper middle class jobs in universities, corporations, or government…He will be forced to pay taxes supporting these incompetents and loafers, however…

  80. Corrupt says:
    @James Thompson

    “As to the military, over evening drinks I was discussing the findings, and realized I could not answer the simple question as to what the white and black soldiers IQs were.”

    While I can’t answer your questions regarding IQ, I can say that when in the Navy, I was in a rate (job type) that was part of the Advanced Electronics Field (AEF). To get into the program, one had to have a very high ASVAB score. The AEF involved jobs such as tending nuclear reactors, working on nuclear missiles and missile fire controls, repair and maintenance of navigation aids, aircraft simulator operation and repair and similar jobs. In my particular field, out of 1200 people there was one (count ’em ONE) black guy, and he was generally considered to be less than intelligent (although that may have been an act to get out of work).

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  81. Not Raul says:

    like in the military, you could respect the rank of the employee and ignore the race of the person holding it

    Is that really true anymore?

    Black faces in the military have been a very useful fig leaf for the Establishment.

    For example, look at the career of Colin Powell.

    https://archives.cjr.org/full_court_press/colin_powell_american_coward.php

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
  82. We are not going to vote our way out of this morass. So prepare for the worst.

  83. @James Thompson

    Pardon
    and if whites stick to the American creed, and race-based affirmative legislation is cancelled, then equality under the law will be restored, and assimilation may yet be possible.
    What do you mean by the American creed? Or better, what is it?
    What am i missing? I’ve never heard that before.
    American creed?
    Please, explain.
    And good article
    Thanks

  84. BorisMay says:

    Take a large pinch of salt with this article as it appears to be mostly theoretical as opposed to empirical.
    A black African/black West Indian nurse is infinitely preferable over a white east European nurse any day of the week in London UK.
    Many white west European/British nurses are truly awful in London UK.

    Blacks may generally be more violent, but history tells us that blacks under black leadership are often more disciplined and obedient than whites…Zulu impis for example.
    Muslim armies in the Sudan, consisting of mostly black and some black-Arab mulattos were highly disciplined and willingly sacrificed themselves in battle with no fear of death.
    Black African slavers in west Africa procured black slaves to be sold in the US slave markets and maintained a steady supply of slaves as requested by the Jewish slave ship owners. This business, said to be the most profitable known to man, required not only a steady reliable supply of suitable blacks, but that they be in good condition enough to survive the Atlantic crossing.

    Thus it is clear that although blacks might be more violent, more argumentative and more lazy than any other race, if handled correctly especially by their own sort, they could be the epitome of control, discipline and order.

    So there is something else at hand here which is not clear.

    Another rule of thumb in London is to get all your essential business done by midday, or at the very latest before dark. Blacks prefer the evening and night time and like to lie in bed all morning and most of the afternoon, given the option. Consequently if you go out at night in London you frequent well lit areas commonly associated with entertainment.

    At night avoid buses and the tube. After 8pm it is always best to take a black cab.

    The problem with these articles is that they make too many assumptions.

    • Replies: @Anon
  85. Blacks are not going to give up their identity politics and should not be surprised when whites start practicing them too maybe as early as the next election. The time of government top down enforced forced association is over. All that has done is destroy once nice neighborhoods and schools. The constant quest for racial equality is destroying western civilization on this continent. Racial equality is never ending ,open ended and indefinite because racial equality will never be achieved. The result is never ending and open ended government mandated destruction.

  86. BluEidDvl says:
    @CelestiaQuesta

    Haha, Agreed!. It’s looking more & more that it will certainly come to that?. It seems the ONLY thing that will wake the average, mindless White sheep up is imminent threat to their very survival. Absolutely nothing else has worked. ANYONE with more than a room temperature I.Q. & is even remotely aware of what’s going can see the writing on the wall & what’s coming. Yet our fellow Whites are blissfully racing toward that cliff, many willingly so. Just look at those utterly cucked, brain dead Whites hooting & hollering for “their” NBA “champions” in Milwaukee last week?. Worshiping 80 I.Q. Homo Erectus millionaires who wouldn’t hesitate one instant raping their wives/girlfriends/daughters. A disgusting spectacle.

    No, the gravest threat to our peoples survival is not the (((small hats))), not the Homo Erectus hordes & not the Muslims. It is our own people.. 🤔

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  87. Panadechi says:

    Actually, the USA has become a circus show, where the main show is the whitey head, served on a silver tray.

  88. @The Anti-Gnostic

    A pretty decent rule of thumb is if group A won’t sleep with group B’s women, then there will never be a group AB. At a full standard deviation in IQ below whites, blacks are not going to assimilate into white American culture. There are simply not enough intelligent black men nor sexually attractive black women for inter-marriage to be anything but a marginal phenomenon. The actual effect of black culture is extremely toxic.

    Even if only women from A procreated with men from B they would have to be an above-average cross section (e.g. intelligent women more likely to switch sides) or group A would have to go into greater decline than B.

    Neither scenario happened and the situation is even worse than liberals ever imagined because of welfare dysgenics. Our genius liberals thought it was a good idea to pay irresponsible Black women to have children while middle class Blacks are taken for granted just like middle class Whites.

    There are simply not enough intelligent black men nor sexually attractive black women for inter-marriage to be anything but a marginal phenomenon.

    I’m sure our social engineers of the 60s originally imagined everyone randomly mating like dogs until race went away. They certainly imagined at the very least a non-White alliance where Asians wantonly procreate with Blacks. That of course didn’t happen and Asians today are the bane of liberal social engineers.

    It’s only a matter of time before liberals embrace genetic engineering as their final solution. But I don’t think that will work because they will have to go before the public and admit they were lying this entire time. They will basically expect Whites to forgive them for decades of lying and then expect them to pay a massive CRISPR bill. It won’t work because once the great lie is gone they won’t have Whites by their guilt chains. How much of the US is salvable by that point is the question.

  89. Anonymous[425] • Disclaimer says:
    @Panadechi

    Not an accurate representation. Asian men in the USA spend more time complaining about white men fucking their sisters, than calling them idiots.

  90. If one cannot discuss the global agenda of Jewry when it comes to politics and society, one can discuss really nothing seriously.

  91. Currahee says:
    @Mark G.

    Not only do they not associate with real blacks, but their perception of blacks is shaped by the massive,
    pervasive and delusional culturesmog dispensed by pop culture.

    • Agree: johnnyuinta
  92. @RealAmerican

    “studied in the US and became an American citizen”…Yup and all due to what WHITE PEOPLE Created….because apparently he couldn’t learn anything from whence he came. Whites babysitting everyone .

    • Replies: @RealAmerican
  93. @Panadechi

    Nice! I love American Hero…..ROTHFLMFAO!!!

  94. Goddard says:
    @Dr. Charles Fhandrich

    In the U.S.and Canada, all of these problems began when the European-American elite capitulated on the duties that they inherited when their ancestors conquered North America AND Canada [sic].

    Teddy Roosevelt warned us not to turn our nation into a “polyglot boarding-house for the world.” The leaders of the past generation have traduced that vision and are therefore worthy of the utmost contempt.

    • Replies: @Dr. Charles Fhandrich
  95. In education, social/behavioural sciences and humanities I should stick to European authors.

    But why? Asians have higher verbal IQ than Whites. Whites are better at BS and other pseudosciences, I will give you guys that.

    • Agree: tamo
    • Troll: RadicalCenter
  96. I will read Murray’s new book once I finish his last.

    What many thinkers like him fail to acknowledge or account for is human tribalism. See Canada: the Québécois and English are both rich (by world standards) White Christians and are still at each other’s throats. It’s more than just IQ. The Nation state is the answer. IQ equality or realism is not enough. As I now like to say: everyone should have what Israel has: their own country with their own borders for their own people.

  97. @AReply

    I could not agree more! wish I could have said it much like this myself.

  98. Mike Tre says:
    @Not Raul

    This article is boiler plate Democratic talking points circa 2009. The article says nothing about Powell being the beneficiary of racial fast tracking, but instead, among other things, criticizes his role in keeping homosexuals out of the military? That would be a reason to applaud Powell, not condemn him.

    • Replies: @Not Raul
  99. Author: I think the word “black” is missing from the sentence: “K-12 teachers are a full standard deviation below European ones, ”

  100. @Goddard

    The GREAT, Teddy Roosevelt. He also put aside the national parks for the posterity of those Americans to come. Our “leaders” would sell those out too, along with their mothers wheel chair. With few exceptions, the people in Congress and the Senate are despicable scoundrels…

  101. anonymous[154] • Disclaimer says:

    Had I need of medical help when visiting America, it would be wiser to request an Asian or European doctor.

    The author would do everyone in Europe, North America, Australia, etc a great favor by using his investigative skills to unveil the medical school scams, if such exist, in India, and presumably in Pakistan as well. I did some amateur investigation and found one blog in English of Indian medical school professors lamenting the fact that, not only a seat, but also grades, are routinely bought by wealthy Indian families, who presumably need a few doctors to round out the pedigree. One professor raised the issue of negligence when one such incompetent was being graduated and the professor was told that it didn’t matter since the student’s family would be placing him in an administrative job in some health ministry where he’d never see patients.

    By my understanding, many of the medical schools in India aren’t even rated by the listing in India Today of the top 50 medical schools and are backwater schools looking to provide basic medical care to remote townspeople in India, a most admirable objective–yet, as graduates of such an Indian medical school, they can take the physician’s licensing exam in all 50 states in the US and practice surgery in major American hospitals in desperate need of surgeons, and so learn by literally practicing on real human beings. There’s also the question of whether these arrogant Indians and Pakistanis characteristically form cabals that enable these incompetents to walk over better educated whites to whom such collusion is anathema.

    Based on the degrees requirements, it was also my impression, and only that, that many of these doctors practicing medicine in the US and Europe, for example, have an education that doesn’t measure up to that of a nursing program in the US and Europe. Although I’ve read it nowhere, I’ve been wondering if these Indian and Pakistani doctors practicing all over now–and given that some number must be as competent as Europeans–haven’t been brought in so that the Jews who control the medical schools can limit the number of seats in US and European medical schools to enhance their unmerited superior status gained through preferential admissions. As one trustee of an Ivy League medical school asked of the board some years ago, “Are you Jews going to allow even one non-Jew in this year?”

  102. @Anonymous Jew

    “The nation state is the answer.”

    I could not agree more. And you are so right about the situation in Canada. Of course, the nation state idea, is considered to be the deadly enemy of the globalists. It is rather amusing how much energy and propaganda, very subtle propaganda, that people have been exposed to by the globalists. Very few people seemed to realize, both in the U.S. and the rest of the Western world, that the original Star Trek, way back in 1967 and all of its follow up sequels that aired right into the year 2000, were based on globalist, one world order propaganda. And it was and still is made to look so glamorous and inviting, since the idea is now being pushed more than ever.

    • Replies: @Anon
  103. Exile says:

    Murray’s entire post-Bell Curve career has been about denying the reality of his own data and clinging to civil nationalism. Z-Man at Taki gets that right – for all that I’ve had my issues with him.

    Murray’s the libertarian version of Robert Putnam. Just like Putnam’s “E Pluribus Unim” diversity study, “Facing Reality” uses a liberal introduction and liberal “what is to be done” coda to kosher-sandwich all of his inconvenient data-meat in the middle.

    Their data (as well as human history) says ethno-nationalism is superior to civic nationalism on every metric. But Murray and Putnam alike cannot bring themselves to tell non-Whites that they just don’t fit in and/or measure up.

    They just sugar-coat their hatefacts in hopium and copium and pray that the Ashkenazgul and their orcs will let them die in peace with one more publication to their credit.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  104. Richard B says:
    @Mevashir

    I believe he is extremely intelligent.

    Define intelligent.

    Except for the obvious, he was no different than every other President that followed JFK after they blew his head off in the middle of the day in front smiling, unsuspecting school children and their parents.

    From that perspective the Zapruder footage was an educational short that their bosses from Jewish Supremacy Inc. showed them before they took office.

    You’ve got a great career as a Yes man in front of you. Be a shame if anything ever happened to it, and you. Become a No man, and it will.

    If that qualifies as intelligent, then, yes, that aptly initialed BO was intelligent.

  105. Bite Moi says:
    @dearieme

    dearieme——-“Hello,i am Dr. Jill Biden.How are we feeling this morning.”?

  106. A lot of these people seemed more stupid than I ever thought anyone could possibly be. It really opened my eyes to the reality of racial differences.

    Well stated. My experiences brought me to the same conclusion.

    I’m not really a racist but I am an IQist and the large percentage of blacks with low IQ levels makes it impossible for most of them to ever integrate into white society. Once whites learn what they are like they will make extreme efforts to get away from them, as I did.

    I do not hate other groups, nor do I hate ‘the other’. I can respect differences from a distance. I do, however, have a stronger dislike for some groups than I have for others. e.g. Amerikun blacks? I stay away from them. Asian-Amerikuns? No problems.

    I haven’t been in that country in years though, and things seem to have gotten worse since St. George died of a drug overdose.

    Good luck.

  107. Katrinka says:
    @Panadechi

    Dumb. All your memes are dumb.

  108. @AReply

    As to the last sentence, yeah, I saw that same episode of Impractical Jokers. Poor Murr.

    Secondly, if the politics of exclusion are finished, why are using the implication of homosexual activity as an insult? Isn’t that “homophobic”?

    Third, I’m not entirely sure that you followed your own advice “try not to shit on those you don’t like.”

  109. Resartus says:
    @Anonymous

    Apparently scholarly psychometricians are clueless about the corrupt modern U.S. military recruitment process and what insiders call “falsification”. Particularly in some services and geographic areas.

    With the rise of Technology in the military…
    Specifically, classified tech……
    Decisions are made more on the ability to pass Security Investigations,
    rather than ability to do a job…..
    For 100s of years, people unable to perform in their Unit,
    were sent to Command Sections to Driver/Gopher etc…..

  110. @Exile

    Murray is still holding out for the establishment to welcome him back.

    He wants his Super Duper Scientist award with an official Man of Prestige embossment.

    That is why he tries so hard to flaunt his libertarian creds (individualist, globalist, against Whites acting collectively) and separate himself from those nasty other Whites.

    What he doesn’t seem to get is that the entire academic establishment is well aware that race exists. The same is true for most journalists.

    They are all aware that race exists and want to do everything they can to keep that awful truth from the unwashed masses. That is why they don’t give a flying f about his latest charts ‘n graphs book.

    The idea of them getting rid of affirmative action and accepting unequal outcomes undoubtedly gives them a good laugh. It’s almost as if the establishment engages in fraud for the sake of equality and isn’t at all interested in actually studying racial differences. WELL DERRRR.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
  111. res says:
    @Stan d Mute

    I think there is value in evaluating the accuracy and sources for claims. No matter how obvious they may seem. YMMV.

    P.S. FWIW I think that is even more important for obvious yet controversial topics like this.

  112. The UNZ report makes sense – when you realise it is written by Moassad – took me 2 months to figure it out. BRAVO !!

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
    , @Dave Bowman
  113. @Dodge City Pete

    Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight……nearly every comment is some form of criticism of organized jewry…..the site must be Mossad!

    Clearly, nothing gets past you!

    • Replies: @Avery
  114. res says:
    @Edgar Johnson

    I think you are basically on target. The only issue would be if there was a material difference in the groups who choose to take the GMAT vs. the GRE.

    Here is a somewhat comparable document for the GMAT.
    https://www.gmac.com/~/media/Files/gmac/Research/GMAT-Test-Taker-Data/gmat-profile-north-america-ty2017-final_web-release.pdf

    In Table 3 for 2017 we see the following mean scores.
    Black 453
    Asian 586
    Hispanic 500
    White 565

    From Wikipedia we see:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graduate_Management_Admission_Test#Scoring

    over the three-year period 2014–2017 the mean score was 556.04 with a standard deviation of 120.45 points.[26]

    So using mean 556 and SD 120.5 we see the following Z scores, and differences from whites:
    Black -0.85 -0.92
    Asian 0.25 0.18
    Hispanic -0.46 -0.53
    White 0.07 0
    Multiracial -0.05 -0.12

    Murray’s Table 5 gives MBA program Z scores and implied differences from Europeans:
    European 0.14 0
    African -0.65 -0.79
    Latin -0.31 -0.45
    Asian 0.09 -0.05

    It looks like more high ability Asians take the GMAT (any idea why?). The difference in Asian/white gap between the two groups is 0.23 SD which I think is significant. The black/white gap difference is a bit over 0.1 SD while the Hispanic/white gap difference is a bit under 0.1 SD which seem enough to note, but not that significant.

    Note that the Business group in the GRE data included 15k people who gave a race so a decent sample size. But significantly lower than the 100k who take the GMAT per year. Which matters more when you look at the smaller subgroups.

  115. nsa says:

    The race problem in America is intractable…..flat out insoluble. The best course of action is inaction. Every attempt at a solution only makes the problem worse. Dan Patrick Moynihan studied the American race problem in depth in the late 1960s and suggested the infamous “benign neglect” approach as the only sensible approach, for which he was excommunicated from polite liberal society. 50 years have passed and he is still right. Even if blacks decided to cooperate with whites to the benefit of both races, the conniving jooie instigators would never allow it.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  116. @Mevashir

    “I believe he was extremely intelligent”

    I don’t….. why did he spend millions to hide ALL of his college records? Was he ever really taking classes at Columbia?

    What I do believe is that he was VERY INDOCTRINATED and a stone cold anti-white racist.

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  117. @gotmituns

    I get what you’re saying.

    My Dad always said. “To be a good dentist a guy just needs be good with his hands and his dexterity.”

    That said, I want the top of the class surgeon. I think by the time a guy graduates Med School, he has done many labs and work on cadavers in front of the med school professors/surgeons in order to earn his top ranking.

  118. @johnnyuinta

    Exactly…..why no college records? He is the only POTUS for whom we never saw the records.

    Obama has a mediocre mind. His image and career were manufactured by marxist jews.

    Also, he was a faggy pothead in college.
    Then in law school he never published ANYTHING.

    Nothing.

    Nada.

    They asked students at Columbia if they ever saw his black ass. The answer was no. Nobody ever saw the POS in any class.

    Bottom line is that he’s an anti-white scumbag POS, even though whites gave him everything. His idiot nasty ugly wife is the same story…..we gave that ugly bitch everything and she still hates us.

    I sincerely hope that both of them get some awful terminal disease.

    There are special places in hell for the Obama’s, for Oprah, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Maxine Waters…..all slimy nasty hateful wretched anti-white pieces of shit that if not for jews propping them up they would have been driving garbage trucks.

    • Thanks: johnnyuinta
  119. Cato says:
    @Mark G.

    I’m not really a racist but I am an IQist and the large percentage of blacks with low IQ levels makes it impossible for most of them to ever integrate into white society.

    All this pretending that the problem is between races, when in fact the problem is between people able to handle this civilization and people who cannot.

    • Replies: @Dave Bowman
  120. Anonymous[806] • Disclaimer says:

    What are the variants of IQ within the same RACIAL group??? how can It be explained?…Do ALL RACES Learnt the same way (cognitive/psychometrics)…Ever since the rush of Civil Rights legislations that sought to “integrate” the school system BLACKS academic achievements is gotten worse…The LEFT racial accomodation mis/understood progressivism has led to LIBERAL insane school policies. Unfortunately the UNIONS are running schools, school boards etc. that the root cause of the abyssmal sate of education in the USA…such polcies are slowly creeping into the University system…The NEW educational model MUST seek to deepen the SCIENTIFIC pedadogical/teaching/methodology that seeks to understand the relationship among RACIAL/IQ/cognitive/ and maximize academic achievements standards…away from FANATICAL insane PC/multidiversity frauds..

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  121. @Magic Dirt

    You are surely a LOT dumber than you think.

    • LOL: Happy Tapir
  122. When I lived in the States for a few years, I made had 4 significant interactions with black people.

    #1. I loaned \$300 dollars to a young Haitian in the States. He promised to pay me back, and agreed to meet at a set place to give me the money. He never showed and I never saw him again.

    #2. I had a black neighbor RIGHT next door. I came home from work to see candles lit inside his door. No one paid the power bill. He seemed like a nice guy. He was from the Ivory Coast. I loaned him \$200 dollars to pay his light bill. He never spoke to me again.

    #3. Was living in Washington, D.C. in a group house with 5 guys, while I was working at my country’s embassy (saving money). 2 of the guys left early to go to work and left the back door wide open. Two black guys entered and robbed us blind. I was at home in my room working on a project on the computer, and my door opened slightly and then slammed. I rose to check the door, opened it, and stood face to face with a 6’3″ 250 lb. buck with my friend’s Nikon camera around his neck. I yelled at him to leave and he had a decision to make. Fight me or fly down the stairs. He chose the stairs. If he had had a gun, I might not be writing this.

    4. Had a black acquaintance at work who never did a lick of work. Said she was sick. We all pretty much ignored her. One day, I really needed her help with something. I called her cell phone around 12:30 PM. She was still in bed with sleepiest voice you could ever hear.

    Lessons?

    Avoid the ‘groid. Never, ever, loan them a single cent. Don’t leave the back door open, and don’t depend on them for ANYTHING.

    Am I wrong?

    • Replies: @Resartus
    , @Detroit Refugee
  123. Rightwing racists like Murray are employed to sow racial division to take the serfs’ attention away from economic and class differences and exploitation. As long as a prole blames his disappearing life hopes on the blacks, Hispanics, Leftists, ChiComms, Putin etc, he’ll never noticed the rich rulers emptying his pockets. THAT is Murray’s sordid job-protect the rich.

    • Troll: Sin City Milla
  124. @Anonymous

    IQ is crap. A false God for race-haters, and only measuring one of the myriad types of practical intelligence that exist. For a start IQ freaks (usually plainly low even in this measure)are generally rock bottom in Emotional Quotient.

    • Replies: @Sin City Milla
  125. Anon[422] • Disclaimer says:
    @AReply

    Government is synonymous with free society?

    You conflate government with socialism?

  126. @nsa

    Moynihan was a VICIOUS racist-see his boasting in regard to East Timor and his role in abetting the Indonesian genocide there. May he rot in Hell. As for ‘benign neglect’ the scum-bag really meant malign neglect.

  127. Anon[422] • Disclaimer says:
    @BorisMay

    Black athletes, under non-black leadership?

  128. Here’s the argument . . . the US is in decline

    the reason it is in decline is because black citizens have increased their participation.

    such participation has lowered standards and thus lowered performance.

    That’s a very convenient tale. Oddly enough it’s not new. Which means its probably not accurate. First, you need to pinpoint at hat point the US started its decline, last year, last ten years, last twenty years, last thirty years, last forty years . . . .

    Whites have held the most important strategic decision making posts, in political power, wealth and mode of force. And while certainly they are stake holders, they have not been key stake holders. Not even close.

    Let’s look at the first big pet peeve AA

    well considering the largest populations that vantage from AA are whites: women, same sex practitioners and others by a tune of more than 70%, it’s might weak gruel to make a case that the diversity causing all this harm is the 10 or 12% of blacks who might benefit. And those black citizen are nit filling the ranks of station and decision makers. That’s a near fatal flow in your analysis. To make the case you want, you need to demonstrate that the 12% are actually to cause, even though they are not in the ranks of change makers in significant numbers.

    NC, ecuse me for borrowing a line here and bending it a tad

    “I don’t know where you are getting your stats from , but it’s not the same place I am getting my stats from

    The white black demographic in the city is 47% white 27% black. I am taking it for granted that by Europeans you mean white. And even then, the white Europeans in NYC were very diverse and were not strangers to competing with each other in some very natty practices, gang warfare is but a smidgen. Poles, Irish, Irakians, czechs, jews, germans, all had and held onto the practices in the their respective countries and were as diverse and competitive as if they lived in the same – separate counties. As for high quality . . and lowered standards . . . the competition was fairly intense for government jobs, private sector manual labor, sanitation, dock, trucking, construction . . their neighborhoods were known fro crime, squalor and less than upstanding. But they have manged to hold the reins and the reigns of power since arriving. I meander . . .

    the demographic shift is not as gapish as you pretend. In 1990 the black population was 25% the increase had been a modest 2%

    If your press relies on accuracy . . . oh well.

    just a quick peek at the crime goto contention: suppose i just granted this out and did you one better. And say all crime was committed by africans americans. that’s right every single criminal act 100%. All 100% of the 4.7 % percent total. That means that some 95% of the black population is not so engaged . . . . seems that the history of policies designed to keep so and so in check — ohhhwa it a minute, the contention is that loosening said practice has caused blacks to go all amuck. But the data sets suggest that crime is on a doward slide across the board, inspite o the supposed loosened standards in which whites are arrested more frequently than blacks and while i know the state i misleading as presented, given the size of the white population nearly three times larger than african americans — well, it make sense to me — this frequency matter. But I ave already granted that it’s all blacks — so , whatever innate sense they have toward criminal conduct is in decline, despite lower standards.

    ————————-

    I know I should leave these issues alone, but the flaws are so glaring it’s pretty tough. i won’t even step in the direction of whether we as a nation practiced equality under the law —-

  129. Franz says:
    @Old and Grumpy

    Just cross breeding the two? That’s odd given Asian dominance academia.

    In 1963 “Asians in America” were Chinatown in San Francisco and a few other places. Not much else.

    Podhoretz overestimated the black population because he lived in NYC. I give him points for knowing blacks consider Jews “white” even if Jews themselves forget this fact.

    Also in 1963 the idea European-derived people would ever be a minority in the USA was not even thinkable. Poddy assumed we were always going to be the way we were on Kennedy’s Inauguration Day. So did everyone else.

  130. @dindunuffins

    Be that as it may, mate.
    But human knowledge is an accumulation of achievements over millennia, going back to the beginning of agriculture in Mesopotamia, now Iraq. America at present, China tomorrow. What have you created? And if you’re at the top in any field, dindunuffins, congratulations!

  131. @Gaspar DeLaFunk

    Breaking news for you:

    Appalled British people first began hearing those words in the early 1970’s – along with the names Ali, Patel, Hussain, Al-Adhami, Srinivathanan, and many, many more.

    But never ever once did we hear – or do we hear today – Goldberg, Silversmith, Shapiro or Cohen – though they are there in every single local and national government organisation, authority and public office. Strange, that.

  132. Resartus says:
    @aleksander

    Am I wrong?

    Everything you have stated, I have had the same experience with white “friends”……
    #3, it was just pilfering items (rods/reels etc) out of fishing boats and cars….

    Lesson learned as a teenager, just learn to hate EVERYONE, pick and choose
    INDIVIDUALS to like and deal with them……

  133. @BluEidDvl

    Your comment is very apposite and timely – and completely accurate – EXCEPT…

    … it is NOT “Zio-America” – and certainly not it’s “lapdog Britain” – that have taken us and our civilization to the precipice of oblivion. Rather it is in both cases the satanic evil of organised international Jewry and it’s demonic agenda of cultural Marxism, via nation-wrecking multi-culturalism, the totalitarian prohibitions against free speech for those perceptive enough to identify and speak against them – and the million White race-traitor politicos and hangers-on who are enabling the future of an all-powerful criminal elite, and a worldwide mass of brown mud serfs grovelling in the dirt in every nation on earth for enough food and work for the day.

    In other words, “we” did NOT at any time “embrace” any such satanic madness – except by default in the fearful gas-lighting insecurity of a world being changed at high-speed to accommodate the agenda of the Chosen and their demi-god filth from the bowels of hell. Therefore destroying America will achieve precisely nothing – it is the gorging rats in the cellar and every room in the house which need to be destroyed – NOT the structure of the house itself ! What did YOU do to stop the (((tanks))) as they rolled in ? And what will you do next ? Perhaps we will meet on the barricades in due course – as I suspect we have few options left.

    And No, there is NO such thing as God, or karma – and I still shudder for what the future holds. It will hold whatever we create now. Now is the time to plan hard – and soon enough will come the time to act.

  134. @Dr. Doom

    10 points made here – and 9 1/2 out of 10 for accuracy. Bravo.

    But I believe you’re wrong about Murray.

    He means well for us – ie. Whites. He’s White too. He just doesn’t have the courage of his convictions, and is too old and tired – like very many of us – to want to see another war – let alone probably the very worst, bloodiest, most costly and destructive war, repeated in every nation, for the future of the world free of the (((enemies of all mankind))).

    But the rest of your comment is fine and full-on accurate and relevant. Again I say, Bravo.

  135. Avery says:
    @Robert Dolan

    {Clearly, nothing gets past you}

    Right, but they are too clever by half. What they don’t realize by commenting @UNZ is this: ALL the fake or real names are being databased for “future reference” by Mossad. Clearly, Ron is an Uber-Sayanim and is routinely providing IP addresses and such to Unit8200. Doesn’t matter if they are behind a VPN or use encryption: Unit8200 will – eventually, with some effort – find where they live. And then…………Kidon will pay a visit.

  136. @Dodge City Pete

    It’s… umm… the Unz REVIEW, actually.

    And 2 months for your “conclusion”… which, as a conclusion, is about as valuable as dogshit to a hungry hobo. Wow.

    You’re welcome.

  137. @Cato

    … all this pretending the problem is between races, when in fact the problem is between people able to handle this civilization and people who cannot

    But… but…

    … in other words… between Whites who built and maintained the civilization and culture… and… non-Whites who didn’t… right ?

    Between… Races !!

    Cretin alert.

  138. botazefa says:
    @gotmituns

    I’ve known a lot of guys who were great in a classroom but when they got out in the field they weren’t anything special.

    Maybe this belief is the result of what Murray was talking about when he warned against projecting personal experiences.

    One simple explanation for your observation from school and beliefs is that your classmates’ mean IQ was lower than is typical and as a result the class progressed at a slower pace. Being a leader in a dull classroom is not going to translate into a stellar career in adulthood.

  139. @aleksander

    Am I wrong?
    Absolutely not. Live by these lessons learned, it could save your life. At the least you will hold onto hard earned cash.

  140. @Mevashir

    “Following an outcry, the co-author resigned from his position as an adjunct professor at the UCT.”

    The “outcry” is always from a tiny, but extremely vocal, minority, yet they always seem to get their way.

  141. @Intelligent Dasein

    “The only way out of America’s malaise is to start applying the same standards to everyone. If that leaves some groups with a “disparate impact,” so be it.”

    Exactly. In fact, “disparate impact” is itself a racist concept, and it needs to be purged from federal law by constitutionalist judges — but I’m not holding my breath!

  142. @CelestiaQuesta

    “After releasing a weaponized SARS virus globally, it failed to achieve desired death numbers”

    All predicted by the remarkable film, “Twelve Monkeys” in 1995.

  143. Secession is the way forward. A smaller territory has an easier time doing what needs to be done. Excising the federal mob from the equation makes it even easier.

    All that’s needed is for the new territories to control any nukes within their borders, that way everyone stays polite.

  144. @Panadechi

    American Hero is equally at home in a doctors white lab coat, stethoscope slung over a shoulder, and a pen with script pad in hand.

  145. This matters deeply, because he has a strong case, and at a personal level has earned his status as the American de Tocqueville. He might smile wryly at this, remembering that aristocrat’s cutting observation about American majority thinking: “The majority has enclosed thought within a formidable fence. A writer is free inside that area, but woe to the man who goes beyond it… he must face all kinds of unpleasantness in every day persecution.”

    How about Cucqueville? The bald-headed Mr. Magoo fool is one of the biggest ass-smoochers of Jewish Power. Ever notice he NEVER mentions the Jewish role in the Anti-White Agenda? What kind of a genuine social scientist has a blind spot that big? Which group has controlled the media and academia? Which group has bought off most of the whore-politicians? Which group did most to marginalize him after THE BELL CURVE? And all this despite his having sucked up to Jewish Neocons all his life. So-called ‘liberal’ Jews(who privately know all about racial differences) attacked him viciously, and his Neocon friends mostly stood by.

    Also, the problem didn’t begin as a Majority Thought. The majority-thought of the US used to be pretty awesomely race-ist. Even up to the 1970s, the majority of white Americans didn’t like interracism. The New Majority Thought began as a Minority Thought, mostly of Jews who, with their control of academia and media, spread anti-white propaganda far and wide, indeed to the point where most whites came to internalize ‘white guilt’. But notice Murray doesn’t address the factors that led to a fundamental change in Majority Thought. There was once a time when Murray’s book would have been greeted as welcome debate and the ideas of Kendi X would have been laughed at. But just how did the New Majority Thought take morons like Kendi X seriously? Because Jews control the electronic media(that permeates into every home and consumer) and the academia(that has formative influence over Americans, most of whom hardly read anything after graduation). The Corleones in THE GODFATHER films won because they recognized the source of the moves against them. Vito Corleone figured out it was Barzini all along. Michael suspected correctly that Hyman Roth gave the go-ahead to the Rosato Brothers(and used Fredo against him). But Murray, for all his reputation for independent thinking, goes totally blank when it comes to Naming the Jewish Power. He can’t hit the bull’s eye, so he goes about aiming for the outer circles. Murray is like a doctor who is terrific at finding the symptoms but never dares to mention the CANCER as the source. Thus, Murray-ism is palliative than curative.

    Murray should get a respectful hearing. His sympathies are with small town America, and with the average guy in an average job… Like any true Scot, he would rather be respected by his clan than to suck up to the lairds.

    No, he’s not. All said and done, Dr. Magoo is a status-conscious sucker-upper to the ‘better kind of people’. For example, why did he change his views on ‘gay marriage’? Get this. He has these fancy-pants highly educated ‘gay’ friends. And they got ‘married’ and adopted some child. Rich successful homos using big bucks to raise a kid, of course with the blessings of the ‘right kind of people’ who themselves, being soulless, look to prevailing elite fads and fashions to keep up with the Jonesewitzes.
    If Murray had real spine and guts, he would have stood with truth and principle. It is foul to associate marriage with what homo-fecal-penetration and tranny-penis-cutting. And even if two homos are nice & caring and spend big money on some orphan, the arrangement is whacky. Family isn’t just about affection and privilege. It’s about moral meaning and mental health. The idea of ‘two daddies’ is sick. An orphan needs to be placed with a substitute dad and substitute mom(as all children are the products of father and mother), not two ‘parents’ who bugger each other. But such meanings have no place in Murray’s ‘cosmopology’. He’s all about class and privilege. He looked at two rich homos raising a kid, and his statistical mind figured, “Hey, that will work.” You see, it’s all nickels & dimes and test scores with Dr. Magoo. Besides, he might be disinvited to cocktail parties when the Neocons themselves decided that ‘gay marriage is a conservative value’. Murray is a vile piece of scum. He is what’s on the bottom of your shoe after you step on dog shit. Murray gave his roots the boot and lays down for the lairds. He also married some Asian chick. So much for sticking with his roots. He’s just some globo-cosmo tard.

    The book is crystal clear: aggressive affirmative action is poisoning American society. Standards have been corrupted, and trust has been lost. Admitting those facts, and ceasing to reward one race over another, is the minimal step which needs to be taken to get out of the quagmire.

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    But Murray doesn’t mention that the poison didn’t begin with favors for blacks but with favors for Jews. There are two kinds of ‘affirmative action’ or special favors. With blacks, the role of AA is obvious because they lag behind in academics and job performance; therefore, they get special treatment in many areas.
    In one way, especially in regard to blacks, AA can be defined as MORE for those who can’t make the cut. But another facet of AA can be defined as MORE for those who CAN make the cut. In terms of meritocracy, Jews make the cut in brainy areas more than most groups. But Jews are also massive beneficiaries of AA because they get much more, indeed way beyond what they are warranted due to meritocracy.

    Consider. Suppose two guys toss free throws with basketballs. One guy hits only 20 out of 100 while the other guy hits 80 out of 100. Suppose 20 pts are added to the first guy to make it more ‘fair’. So, even though he hit only 20, he’s given a score of 40. The effect of AA would be obvious. Now, the guy who hit 80 did very well. But suppose 20 pts are also added to his score to make it 100. Because he did so well meritocratically, people may fail to notice that his score has also been boosted.
    In the US, both blacks and Jews get MORE than what they deserve in terms of merit. Take a lowlife second-rater like Ben Shapiro. Or all those Neocons who’ve become so prominent in the GOP(and the Democratic Party). Are these really geniuses, brilliant thinkers or statesman-like personalities? No, they are lowlife weasels, but their being Jewish is a big boost. Look how all the Jewish creeps responsible for the debacle of the Iraq War never faced negative consequences where their careers were concerned. If anything, they were favored to become editors of journals or leaders of think tanks.

    By merit alone, Wall Street Jews should have taken a huge hit in 2008, but they got richer with Obama’s bailouts while Middle America sunk. The US imposes sanctions on many nations for ‘human rights violations’, but Israel not only gets pass-over protection but is showered with gazillions in cash. Given that Israel is the economic powerhouse of the Middle East and that Jews in the US have more than enough to support Israel on their own, you’d think the American taxpayer would be spared. But nope, Jews make sure that all US tax-payers contribute to Israel. And Jewish crooks get pardoned by Democratic and Republican politicians. Jonathan Pollard stands next to Netanyahu and gives the US a middle finger, and all we hear from both parties is “We stand with Israel.” Jews can rig elections and cook up Russian Collusion Hoax. No one pays a price. This is all part of AA culture. Jews have license to lie, cheat, steal, and kill. What applies to us doesn’t apply to them. If a white person says, “It’s Okay to be White”, the FBI is hunting him down. If Jews hold AIPAC rallies where Jewishness and Zionism are hailed more loudly than Der Fuhrer in the Germany of the 1930s, that’s all so wonderful.

    So, Murray is a dumbass cuck to focus only on the AA for the bottom. The real problem began with AA for the top. When Jews were allowed to steal more, lie more, cheat more, and corrupt more without repercussions, it was AA for the top and had profoundly corrosive effect on the American System. Everything came to be geared more and more in terms of “Is it good for Jews?” It fueled Jewish arrogance and megalomania.
    Now, initially whites may have been sympathetic toward Jews due to historical tragedy, especially in World War II. Or maybe it was genuine admiration for Jewish talent and skills. Or out of sentimentality of Jews as the Chosen. Or, in the hope that Jews will one day become normal and well-adjusted Good Decent Americans if accepted into the bosom of America. But Jews regarded all such overtures as signs of weakness, much like Adolf Hitler grew bolder with the conciliatory gestures of the so-called liberal democracies. Jews came to regard white earnestness as either naively childlike or a put-on to fool the Jews. Jews also sensed fear among white goyim, i.e. whites, cognizant of the rapid ascendancy of Jews, wanted to be on their good side. One thing for sure, Jews could not be satiated with enough. The fruits of meritocracy wasn’t enough for them. They wanted more and more until they had everything. Notice how Jews got so much in Russia but aren’t satisfied because they don’t control everything. Ronald Reagan said of the Cold War, “We win, they lose.” That’s how Jews see the goy world. Jews rule, goyim obey, and nothing else is tolerable to the Tribe.

    White attitude toward Jews went from sympathy to anxiety to fear to worship(to hide the fear). If Jews want it, they get it. Why can’t American Conservatives stand up to craziness like the tranny-lunacy? The main reason is they know Jews are behind it. Without Jewish backing, the tranny-business would be mocked and dismissed, reduced to mince-meat. Indeed, globo-homo and ‘gay marriage’, not to mention the pronoun-proliferation, couldn’t have gotten far. But because it was understood that Jews were behind it and would be very displeased at those who said NO to the Agenda, even so-called conservatives backed down. In contrast, everyone piles on BDS because the Jewish Message is, “We want it crushed.” So, whether it’s Democratic NY or Republican Texas or Democratic California or Republican Florida, it’s “You can’t make it in business if you express any sympathy for BDS.”

    Black AA is duper-AA. It’s AA for those who can’t make the cut. Jewish AA is super-AA. It’s AA for those who can make the cut, and this makes it far more perverse. Giving a poor person a bit more is far more excusable than giving a rich man a lot more. And yet, cucks like Murray who bitch about duper-AA for blacks are totally silent about super-AA for Jews. Due to his cuckish and mindless worship of all things Jewish, Murray and his ilk have convinced themselves that Jews are so smart, so special, and so awesome that they earned every cent of what they have. Never mind all the deep state monopolist machinations between Jewish Wall Street, Jewish Big Tech, whore politicians, and rigged courts. Of course, whereas blacks officially benefit from a program called Affirmative Action(which makes it all very visible), the super-AA for Jews is invisible because Jews get their special favors through their behind-the-scenes manipulations of institutions and industries. Besides, who’s going to say NO to Jewish demands given the political, social, and/or economic consequences of displeasing Jews who act like gangsters?

    Martin Scorsese’s GOODFELLAS as sociology is a nostalgic look at organized crime before the Feds finally clamped down hard. But as metaphor, it’s about the Deep State today. Jews and their cuck-crook collaborators laugh at the Constitution and get their jollies from knowing that they are ‘made men’ and have license to do anything and get away with it. The mafia was vulgar-AA for Italians via muscle and crime. They got a little more that way. And the super-AA for Jews works the same way. Who cares about the rules when you got the power? Also, those with the power get to rewrite the rules. Lawyers become judges, and they set the new laws. Notice how ‘libertarians’ and ‘conservatives’ say monopoly social platforms and banks can deny you service because they’re ‘private companies’ but then are totally silent about the Jewish use of the STATE to shut down BDS. All super-AA for Jews.

    Blacks didn’t become powerful on their own. Black power owes to Jewish Power. Jews keep lit the flame of Emmet Till and milk ‘white guilt'(for ‘cool’ and ‘badass’ blacks) to maintain control over whites, without whom Jewish Power would crumble overnight. The real problem isn’t the legacy of the Civil Rights Movement and what it did for blacks. It was what happened BEFORE the 60s when whites conceded too much to Jews, paving the way for super-AA for Jews and their supremacist-nihilistic behavior. Just how did Jews get away with USS Liberty? Just how did Jews get away with pushing ‘anti-racism’ and anti-imperialism on the West while demanding that the West defend Zionism’s tyranny over Palestinians? (And today, whites in the West are treated no better than Palestinians in West Bank. White patriots, millions of them, are called ‘domestic terrorists’ by Jewish gangsters who use Joe Biden as puppet-dog.) Just how did Jews manage to get a Holocaust Museum built in D.C. when the only ‘genocide’ that happened in the US was the destruction of the native American Indians?

    Black power has ebbed and flowed in accordance to Jewish wishes. When Jews had had enough of black crime in NY, they got tough on crime and made the city a lot safer. But just like the perfect plan fails in Stanley Kubrick movies, what couldn’t happen happened in 2016 with the election of Donald Trump. To discredit Trump, stir up ‘white guilt’, and embolden the blacks, Jews unleashed the George Floyd riots and funded BLM to the max. Jewish-controlled legal system allowed Antifa and BLM scum to rampage, riot, and loot. Jews were the Hyman Roths behind the BLM-Antifa Rosato Brothers. People like Ta-Hinesi Coates and Kendi X would be NOTHING without the support of Jewish Publishing. (Jews also exert power to force Amazon to ban certain books and ideas.)
    Murray, the Dr. Magoo cuck, will mention the Rosatos but will not the Roth. He will rag on the visible duper-AA for blacks but will remain silent about the far more insidious invisible super-AA for Jews, which has pretty much ended US as a democracy. It is an ethno-oligarchy gangster state of the Empire of Judea. Just look at Joe Biden’s administration. It is Jewish Supremacism Galore. Are all those Jews(especially mental health expert Rachel Levine) really so deserving? No, they are beneficiaries of super-AA. There was a time when one had to be a Jew of some talent, like Henry Kissinger, to make it to the top. Nowadays, lowlife scum like Victoria Nuland get to shape key foreign policy abroad. Look at Congressional Hearings, and it’s always a game of white cucks deferring to Jews who look upon them with smiling contempt. It’s all so disgusting. Here’s something funny. Though Charles Murray and Jared Taylor disagree profoundly on lots of things, they are totally agreed in shoving their faces into the unwiped ass of Jewish Power and licking.

    If you look at ability differences within professions, a rational rule of thumb for people of all races, entirely based on documented ability levels would be, if possible, to avoid black doctors and nurses, because they will probably be less able to care for you at European levels.

    Hey, how about a rule whereby all white progs must see black doctors, especially if they need brain surgeries. If they say NO, we should demand, “Why not? What are you, racist or something?” LOL.

    K-12 teachers are a full standard deviation below European ones, so all parents, black and white, should avoid those for their children.

    That doesn’t seem to be the real problem. When it comes to K through 10, you don’t need much intellect on the part of teachers. Also, the real problem is politicization of curricula. For example, why are they pushing globo-homo on kids? What is that a part of? Math? Science? History? Home Economics? English? Foreign Language? Why would ‘gay’ stuff be part of any schooling? Thinking back on my years in grade school, I can’t think of a class that would have included globo-homo stuff. We were just learning basic stuff, not being fed degenerate propaganda. What does the fact that some weirdo guys wear dresses and want a surgery to have their dongs removed have to do with learning? As for Critical Race Theory or CRT, the stupid thing isn’t even critical. It’s dogma pushed as truth, and if anyone critically ask the wrong questions, he or she is ostracized and reviled.

    General Milley said the military should look into CRT because he himself has studied all sorts of ideologies, such as Maoism. But he’s missing the point(and rather willfully). I got nothing against military schools looking into CRT and trying to understand what it’s about. But CRT isn’t being offered as a topic of study but as official dogma. If CRT were brought up in a social science class for consideration and debate, it might lead to interesting discussion. But the agenda isn’t to discuss and debate CRT but to use it as the guiding principle of the American Ideology. It’s one thing to read Marx, Lenin, and Mao in schools, military or otherwise. It’d be another thing altogether to push Marxism, Leninism, or Maoism as the official ideology of the school. Such is the objective of CRT, and Milley is either a liar or a fat stupid cuck.


    Based on what he saw in America in 1831 de Toqueville believed that the assimilation of black people would be almost impossible.

    The policy of both EU and US is now ACOWW or Afro-Colonization of White Wombs, or ‘Asseximilation’. Social assimilation between whites and blacks as equal citizens is impossible. What is possible(and happening at ever greater scale with sure-to-be dire results) is the jungle-feverization and cuckization of the White World. It’s happening in Japan as well as yellows imitate whites who take their cues from Jews. Japanese women reject timid dorky Japanese men as inferior and have kids with Negro men, and their kids dominate Japanese sports, and Japan’s corporacracy hails it the face of New Japan, thus emboldening even more Japanese women to have have kids with Negroes who will take over Japanese sports and be revered as national heroes. Though only a small number of Japanese are half-black, the cancer is bound to grow rapidly in that soulless deracinated nation. If you destroy the native idols of a nation(that serve as its official face) and replace it with foreign ones, the nation is doomed. If it’s happening to Japan, a distant nation, imagine what is happening in UK, France, Netherlands, and of course the US.
    Look how Confederate monuments are defaced and then removed in the South, and whites don’t even stand up for their heritage. They hunker down and wait for college football season so they can cheer for black athletes who hump white cheerleaders. White guys are total cuck-maggots. So, who needs assimilation when more white wombs will be sexually colonized by blacks and produce black babies? In the Current Year, everything white is either up for sale, confiscation, or conquest by others. White women? Go to black men. White lands? Go to non-white immigrants. White institutions? They belong to Jews. White Churches? They belong to globo-homo. White History? To be re-narrated with ‘Diversity’. Whiteness has become a welcome mat for the muddy boots of non-white masses led by the Jewish Mob.
    Meanwhile, white guy cuck-maggots hail jungle fever and interracism as ‘anti-racist’ and ‘progress’. Of course, the Afro-junglization of the White World will turn the West into something like one big North Africa, but whites worship blacks, along with homos and Jews, and most whites seem to welcome it as their minds are putty in Jewish hands. Could this trend be reversed? Sure, if awesome race-ists gained control of institutions and industries, but Jews have control over them and shower white cucks with carrots while using the full force of stick on those who say NO. But then, almost no white says NO. Even Trump and his supporters are pretty cucked on race. They applaud interracism of ACOWW and worship Jews & Israel. They will bitch about Cuba, Iran, China, or Ben & Jerry Ice Cream but, just like lowlife Charles Murray, will not name the Hyman Roth power that has them in its crosshairs.

  146. Corvinus says:
    @Dr. Charles Fhandrich

    “How many white parents have allowed the schools their children attend to teach Critical Race Theory, a subject dedicated to denigrating and belittling white children?”

    How many public school districts have CRT in their curriculum? Sources must be provided, of course.

    • Replies: @res
  147. res says:
    @Corvinus

    Since you like asking people for sources so much (if only you were so conscientious about providing your own sources) here is some information.
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/yes-critical-race-theory-is-being-taught-in-public-schools

    Just this week, the Manhattan Institute’s Christopher Rufo reported that 30 public school districts in 15 states are teaching a book, Not My Idea, that tells readers that “whiteness” leads white people to make deals with the devil for “stolen land, stolen riches, and special favors.” White people get to “mess endlessly with the lives of your friends, neighbors, loved ones, and all fellow humans of color for the purpose of profit,” the book adds.

    Much more disturbing than that relatively small number (remember that it is much easier to nip a trend like this in the bud) of school districts is this.

    If that’s not enough evidence, the nation’s largest teachers union outright endorsed the teaching of CRT to public school students in an agenda item it passed last week. The National Education Association vowed to “share and publicize” information “already available on Critical Race Theory — what it is and what it is not” and fight back against legislation that would ban CRT from school curricula.

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  148. Corvinus says:
    @res

    “Since you like asking people for sources so much (if only you were so conscientious about providing your own sources) here is some information.”

    The reality is that I generally provide links when asked or when making my arguments. So you are other than accurate here. Now let us focus on the topic at hand. Are those school districts listed actually teaching CRT, or are presenting terms that conservatives are unilaterally labeling as being CRT? The fact of the matter is that how many Americans regardless of race actually know what is and what is not CRT? Do you? From what I ascertain, Critical Race Theory is a particular body of thought developed primarily for analyzing the law through the lens of systemic racism in our institutions. But in our politically charged society, CRT is being used as a “catchall” phrase by a fair number of conservatives to anything and everything related to equity, diversity, and inclusion, as well as to the legacies of slavery and segregation. Of course, given how much opinions differ on the implications of racism, it is a minefield for school districts—who I thought should be locally controlled according to Republican/conservative principles—to develop effective ways to broach those topics.

    https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2021/07/02/why-are-states-banning-critical-race-theory/

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    –Eight states (Idaho, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, Iowa, New Hampshire, Arizona, and South Carolina) have passed legislation.

    –None of the state bills that have passed even actually mention the words “critical race theory” explicitly, with the exception of Idaho.

    –The legislations mostly ban the discussion, training, and/or orientation that the U.S. is inherently racist as well as any discussions about conscious and unconscious bias, privilege, discrimination, and oppression. These parameters also extend beyond race to include gender lectures and discussions.

    –State actors in Montana and South Dakota have denounced teaching concepts associated with CRT. The state school boards in Florida, Georgia, Utah, and Oklahoma introduced new guidelines barring CRT-related discussions. Local school boards in Georgia,

    –North Carolina, Kentucky, and Virginia also criticized CRT.

    –Nearly 20 additional states have introduced or plan to introduce similar legislation.

    NOTICE who in part is funding this initiative (of course, no different than what Democrats/liberals do with their “pet projects”).

    https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2021/06/secretive-dark-money-network-anti-critical-race-theory/

    A deep-pocketed “dark money” group is spending “well over \$1 million” on an ad campaign against the inclusion of racial justice topics in K-12 curricula.  The Concord Fund is a conservative dark money group better known as the Judicial Crisis Network. It registered Free to Learn Action as a “fictitious name” — or legal alias — on June 21, the Daily Poster reported Thursday. Free to Learn’s website does not disclose its relationship with the Concord Fund and describes itself as a “nonpartisan” group dedicated to promoting education without “pressure or requirements to subscribe to a singular worldview and activist curriculum with a political agenda.” 

    Here is a nuanced conversation about the book in question. Realize not all liberals agree or are necessarily on board with CRT.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/06/anastasia-higginbotham-not-my-idea-children-police-killings/619087/

    It is definitively legitimate regarding parental and societal concern about how school districts develop curriculum that emphasizes, whitewashes, or excludes a ideological point of view. But the mere fact that several states are placing barriers as to what ought to be instructed is a brand of revisionist history, and form of (gasp) cancel culture.

    Of course, there will always be those teachers who push the boundaries in terms of content and its presentation. Certainly, the book title is divisive to certain parents, but then it is up to the teacher/school district to present the reasons how and why they are instructing to parents, with the opportunity for parents to have their child “opt out”. There will always be parents who feel the timing of lessons should be different and who prefer their children do not learn about certain aspects of America’s past from a certain perspective. However, discussions about controversial topics is a role that teachers ought to engage in with their students and employ their professionalism and experience to tailor those issues to specific age groups. It appears to me that the book is other than appropriate for younger children. But how is the subject material being taught? Were parents informed? Was there even discussions with administration prior to the lesson being developed and implemented? To me, that is paramount.

    My own personal discomfort with things like school shootings or police brutality does, or did, lead me to not want to discuss them with my own children, especially when they were young. I would agree there is a risk of traumatizing kids, or at least destabilizing their view of the world or making them feel threatened/insecure, by exposing them to too much too soon. Yet, I believe the general purpose is for teachers and parents to raise awareness about race issues among a generation** who, compared to my own generation, seeks to learn more about what has happened in our nation’s history. It is just a question of how exactly to accomplish that goal, with the school district and its stakeholders, rather than perhaps heavy-handed Republican and Democrat lawmakers, to make those decisions.

    **Keep in mind there is a cultural generational gap which has been fomenting since Barack Obama, In both of Obama’s elections and in Donald Trump’s 2016 victory, the increasingly diverse bloc of voters under age 45 favored the Democratic candidate, while the older age group voted Republican. It’s not so much that Generation Z/Millennials are uniformly “woke”, it’s just that they are making their own decisions about race and culture that is unnerving to “traditionalists”. This phenomenon–i.e. a new way of looking at things–has occurred numerous times in our history, from Jacksonian Democracy to Reconstruction to Progressive legislation to New Dealism. There will be pushback between groups regarding the political and social direction of our nation. It’s who we are.

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  149. res says:
    @Corvinus

    The reality is that I generally provide links when asked or when making my arguments.

    Easily checked by looking at your comment history. I’ll leave it to others to decide for themselves. I will note you have gotten better at providing sources, but “generally provide” still seems like a stretch to me.

    In any case, at least you seem able to provide support when challenged in this example. Though on closer examination I am not sure exactly what you are supporting. Providing links and quotes is not the same as providing an intelligible argument accompanied by supporting evidence.

    Are those school districts listed actually teaching CRT, or are presenting terms that conservatives are unilaterally labeling as being CRT?

    So now we get to play “No True CRT (Scotsman).” It is less encouraging to see you continuing to demonstrate your status as our local “expert” on committing logical fallacies. No True Scotsman does seem to be one of your favorites.

    Then you proceed to completely change the topic from your “How many public school districts have CRT in their curriculum? ” to how many states have passed legislation about CRT? Not sure what you are trying to accomplish there other than…

    Rather than posting a thousand words of obfuscation (aka squid ink, another favorite tactic of yours), how about you say concisely what you think of including the concepts mentioned in my earlier quote in a required textbook?

    Just this week, the Manhattan Institute’s Christopher Rufo reported that 30 public school districts in 15 states are teaching a book, Not My Idea, that tells readers that “whiteness” leads white people to make deals with the devil for “stolen land, stolen riches, and special favors.” White people get to “mess endlessly with the lives of your friends, neighbors, loved ones, and all fellow humans of color for the purpose of profit,” the book adds.

    For instance, do you think material like that increases or decreases hostility between the races in the US? Do you think those statements are true? It seems like at minimum truth is a good standard for a required textbook.

    This quote below from you seems worth some discussion.

    This phenomenon–i.e. a new way of looking at things–has occurred numerous times in our history, from Jacksonian Democracy to Reconstruction to Progressive legislation to New Dealism. There will be pushback between groups regarding the political and social direction of our nation. It’s who we are.

    That is true. The push-pull between competing ideas is something of a constant in our society. But trying to use that to imply moral equivalence of the different ideas is simply wrong. Truth matters. Fomenting racial hate (take another look at that quote) matters.

    Dr. Charles Fhandrich has clearly taken a side in the CRT debate. In arguing with him are you taking the opposite side? Your “on the one hand…on the other hand” tactic gives you plausible deniability there, but do you post similar responses to comments favoring CRT? I find your comments extremely disingenuous in general and this pretense of neutrality (while almost always arguing against one type of comment) is one of the primary reasons.

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  150. Corvinus says:
    @res

    “Easily checked by looking at your comment history. I’ll leave it to others to decide for themselves. I will note you have gotten better at providing sources, but “generally provide” still seems like a stretch to me.”

    Yes, to you, but that is other than surprising.

    “Providing links and quotes is not the same as providing an intelligible argument accompanied by supporting evidence.”

    I did exactly that in my responses and in past responses. I simply don’t expect you to acknowledge it.

    “So now we get to play “No True CRT (Scotsman).”

    Once again, you claim I employed a fallacy, but without the requisite information. The questions still stand–Are those school districts listed actually teaching CRT, or are presenting terms that conservatives are unilaterally labeling as being CRT? Do you know what CRT entails? Are you able to articulate it in detail?

    “Then you proceed to completely change the topic from your “How many public school districts have CRT in their curriculum? ” to how many states have passed legislation about CRT?”

    You mean expanding upon the topic, since legislation has been introduced in reaction to alleged CRT curriculum in public schools.

    “how about you say concisely what you think of including the concepts mentioned in my earlier quote in a required textbook?”

    I did just that.

    “I find your comments extremely disingenuous in general and this pretense of neutrality (while almost always arguing against one type of comment) is one of the primary reasons.”

    I offered a cogent, nuanced, honest response. If you don’t believe me, that’s up to you.

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  151. Timbo33 says:

    If you want to see affirmative action disappear – just make it mandatory to set up Jewish Americans as a separate category. Then just hear the screams and dispair and the retreat from helping those more unfortunate and unqualified. It will serve them right.

  152. res says:
    @Corvinus

    “Providing links and quotes is not the same as providing an intelligible argument accompanied by supporting evidence.”

    I did exactly that in my responses and in past responses. I simply don’t expect you to acknowledge it.

    How about you try concisely summarizing the argument you were making then?

    “So now we get to play “No True CRT (Scotsman).”

    Once again, you claim I employed a fallacy, but without the requisite information. The questions still stand–Are those school districts listed actually teaching CRT, or are presenting terms that conservatives are unilaterally labeling as being CRT? Do you know what CRT entails? Are you able to articulate it in detail?

    My audience is people for whom it is obvious. Sorry that does not include you. If you really can’t see how the quote I gave indicates No True Scotsman, I am sorry for you.

    To be blunt, I don’t care EXACTLY what CRT is. What I care about is anti-white animus is being included in school curricula and CRT is being used as the theoretical justification for it. I’m not a big fan of debating simplistic labels which are impossible to pin down. Specific cases (like in that quote about the Not My Idea book I gave which I note you are studiously failing to engage with) are much more useful since they are much less vague.

    “Then you proceed to completely change the topic from your “How many public school districts have CRT in their curriculum? ” to how many states have passed legislation about CRT?”

    You mean expanding upon the topic, since legislation has been introduced in reaction to alleged CRT curriculum in public schools.

    Expanding on the topic generally includes actually addressing the original point as part of it. A notable difference from what you did.

    “how about you say concisely what you think of including the concepts mentioned in my earlier quote in a required textbook?”

    I did just that.

    You have an interesting definition of “concise.” I saw very little of what you think and a great deal of “on the one hand…on the other hand…” Perhaps you could concisely summarize what YOU think?

    “I find your comments extremely disingenuous in general and this pretense of neutrality (while almost always arguing against one type of comment) is one of the primary reasons.”

    I offered a cogent, nuanced, honest response. If you don’t believe me, that’s up to you.

    So full of nuance I don’t think it said much. But we can certainly disagree on that.

    This is a good point to agree to disagree. I have made my points. If people find your comments in this thread useful that’s their decision. Though I would be interested in the reasoning.

  153. Not Raul says:
    @Mike Tre

    Powell was a PR hack. The elite saw his black skin as a way to defend what they wanted him to say from criticism. It’s woke capitalism.

  154. @johnnyuinta

    It’s rarely complicated and a journeyman who does the same surgery regularly is as good as is necessary. “Top specialists” can be researchers who don’t do routine work.

  155. Very few jobs require peak intellectual performance at all times. Most such are creative rather than operational. Even then, bridge or aeroplane design is guided by standardised codes.

  156. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Try actually reading one of Murray’s books before posting.

  157. dux.ie says:

    Summary data for the US National Longitudinal Studies supplementary data of Murray’s book “Facing Reality: Two Truths about Race in America”

    https://relativevolatility.blogspot.com/

  158. @Corrupt

    out of 1200 people there was one (count ’em ONE) black guy, and he was generally considered to be less than intelligent (although that may have been an act to get out of work).

    Isn’t it reasonable to assume, that higher IG blacks were higher up in the hierarchy than you were with your electronics job?

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