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[Excerpted from the latest Radio Derb, now available exclusively through VDARE.com]

See, earlier, May 30, 2020: Even Right Abandoning Accused Minneapolis Cop—But They Shouldn’t

The incoming new administration will, with high probability, face three major crises in the next year or so. China will probably invade Taiwan. T he stock market bubble will burst and the economy will contract at exactly the time that the Democrats, seeking to Elect A New People and subjugate the Historic American Nation, open the borders and amnesty 20-30 million illegal aliens.

And then there’s the Derek Chauvin trial.

Chauvin, you’ll recall, is the former Minneapolis Police Officer charged with second-degree murder, third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter in the death of George Floyd last May. Jury selection for Chauvin’s trial begins March 8th, so this is pretty immediate.

Three other police officers who were present at the scene when Officer Chauvin succeeded in restraining Floyd have been charged with lesser offences of the aiding-and-abetting sort:

[Minneapolis Judge Peter] Cahill [Above left] previously ruled in November that it was in the best interest of justice that all four cops be tried together, saying this would allow the jury to have “all of the evidence and the complete picture of Floyd’s death.” But the persisting realities of COVID-19 seem to have changed his mind.

Derek Chauvin to Stand Trial Separately From Other Cops Charged in George Floyd’s Death, by Ishena Robinson, The Root, January 14, 2021

There follows some stuff about the physical limitations of the largest courtroom in the justice center. It’s not big enough for all the lawyers and supporting staff needed when trying four defendants, without violating COVID-19 restrictions.

Uh-huh.

Given the stakes here, you have to suspect skullduggery.

The stakes for Judge Cahill are, that if you glance over his left shoulder you see the sinister figure of Keith Ellison, Minnesota’s white-hating black Muslim Bernie-bro Attorney General, who is determined to get Chauvin put away for 400 years.

Allowing the jury to have “all of the evidence and the complete picture of Floyd’s death” might get in the way of that. If all of the evidence says that Floyd died of a massive drug overdose only indirectly related—perhaps not related at all—to Officer Chauvin’s having used a commonplace method of restraint on him, [Neck Hold Used By Minneapolis Officer Was Approved By Department Policy, LawOfficer.com, May 29, 2020]and if one or two intelligent citizens slipped through the jury-selection process, the prosecution’s case could be in trouble.

The stakes for the rest of us: an acquittal of Officer Chauvin would mean another round of mayhem like the one we saw last year—public buildings defaced and torched by anarchist mobs, highways closed, random citizens beaten and killed, private businesses looted, while Biden and his crew blame it all on “white supremacists,” Kamala Harris starts a GoFundMe account to bail out the rioters and looters, and big corporations donate another ten billion dollars to Black Lives Matter.

Remember the Rodney King riots in 1992? They started because the police officers who arrested King and beat him when he resisted, were acquitted at state trial.

King didn’t even die, although he got a broken leg and some nasty bruises.

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Plus, America was a lot more sane in 1992 than it is today. That was before Satan rose from the Underworld to gift us with the internet, smartphones, and social media. The rioters back then were mostly black and disorganized: anarchist Goodwhite mobs were not yet a thing.

Note also that those Rodney King cops weren’t off the hook after acquittal. Under the cruel and disgraceful system of double jeopardy that is now standard when Badwhites—especially cops—injure blacks or Goodwhites, those Rodney King cops were tried all over again on spurious “civil rights” charges, and ended up in jail anyway.

Exactly the same thing happened to South Charleston cop Michael Slager, whose state trial ended in a hung jury but who was apparently tricked into pleading guilty to federal “civil rights” charges and hit with a 20-year sentence.

There is no doubt that Derek Chauvin, if acquitted in state court—likely even if convicted, as was the case with James Fields—will face the same double jeopardy.

We have just this week been learning about Joe Biden’s nominee to head the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division: a lady of color whose pineal gland pumps out melanin at a rate that puts us dull, un-spiritual white people in the shade … so to speak.

With Ms. Melanin i n charge of the nation’s civil rights, Officer Chauvin’s going to have many, many decades to regret he didn’t take the fast way out while he still had his service revolver.

When the System wants to get you, it’ll get you. It’ll get Derek Chauvin, one way or another.

Until it has, though, there may be some more blood shed in America’s streets.

John Derbyshire [email him] writes an incredible amount on all sorts of subjects for all kinds of outlets. (This no longer includes National Review, whose editors had some kind of tantrum and fired him.) He is the author of We Are Doomed: Reclaiming Conservative Pessimism and several other books. He has had two books published by VDARE.com com: FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT (also available in Kindle) and FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT II: ESSAYS 2013.

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  1. Taiwan is a province of China, John. There’s no need to invade it.

    • Agree: Realist, Johnny Smoggins
    • LOL: Mr. XYZ
    • Troll: Hibernian
  2. Biff says:

    You usually do good work, but trying to defend scumbag cops is not “good work”.

    • Agree: acementhead
    • Replies: @MBlanc46
  3. I feel sorry for Derek Chauvin. You go all-in for dark chills – and you’re better at that than I’d like you to be. Heavy; hopefully a tad too pessimistic.

  4. Realist says:

    The incoming new administration will, with high probability, face three major crises in the next year or so. China will probably invade Taiwan.

    Why would the act of China taking control of its province of Taiwan, be a crisis for the US??? Taiwan was wrongfully taken from mainland China…by the west.

    Any solutions…or do you enjoy pissing and moaning?

  5. @Realist

    The links in that sentence are to another China basher (“Tucker Carlson Warns America About The Threat Of Chinese Influence”) on V Dare and another of his obsessive takes.

    And his adopted Uncle Sam — whose double jeopardy racket he discerns — loves it.

    • Replies: @Realist
  6. Realist says:
    @Greta Handel

    Agreed, I have lost any hope for Carlson. Carlson and others push the narrative that the left is the Deep State and the right are the good guys. Of course, they are both two sides of the Deep State coin…heads they win-tails you lose.

    Someone on this blog has adopted the pseudonym Cucker Tarlson. Quite apropos.

  7. The new Administration is not wasting time. In light of the 6/1 Capitol/Reichstag Fire they have drawn up a new definition for domestic terrorism.

    Rep. Adam Schiff has readied a bill that now defines domestic terrorism as anything involving plots that carry risk of serious bodily harm, intent to intimidate or coerce civilians or influence policy by intimidation or coercion.

    Under this bill a phone call or email to a Congressman/woman about policy can be interpreted as a criminal attempt to politically influence, intimidate or coerce.

    Even making a complaint means the interpreters of this bill will have it within their legal rights to try you in court for a criminal offence.

    As for protests, under this bill protesting can’t be found to be anything other than an attempt by civilians to influence governmental policy by intimidation or coercion. (Unless, of course, the protesters are BLM/Antifa and are freeing up areas for redevelopment.)

    How long will it be until a progressive judge and jury will interpret the very act of owning a gun as the crime of malice aforethought, specific intent, or general intent to commit the criminal offence of political influence via intimidation or coercion?

    To understand where the (((people))) behind this bill are going you should work from the premise that they are ultimately aiming for civil war in the US. Which would tie in with the replacement of personnel in the officer core of the US military during Obama’s administration.

    Perhaps Trump didn’t use his Constitutional right to implement the Insurrection Act and arrest those behind the massive election fraud because he and his staff are probably aware the US military simply would not follow Trump’s orders?

    Trump does not like to lose under any circumstances. He especially does not like to lose when his winning has been very publically stolen from him, with the added humiliation of Pelosi & Co rubbing salt in the wound. He is most certainly a man that would use whatever legal means which were at his disposal to fight back against this election theft and his childishly vindictive nemeses in the Democrat Party.

    Thus, one might assume the Insurrection Act is not actually at his disposal.

    The Establishment are not going to get Stalinist type control over the US population without a civil war. Would they be stupid enough to start a civil war? Yes. While the Establishment’s rulers are very intelligent in a financial management sense they are exceedingly dumb in reading, understanding or managing non-Jewish socities. On top of this, their insanely rooted “divinely inspired” arrogance makes them believe they are invincible.

    They got turned on, massacred and exiled on at least 1,043 times in their history. But then, hundreds of captured psychopathic serial killers are sitting in their cells flummoxed at how the intellectually inferior police caught them. If they escaped they’d resume murdering, thinking that it was a stroke of bad luck that had got them caught in the first place. Even if many of them were caught and escaped 1,043 times, they’d return to killing each time they got out because their abnormal brains are wired to always and ever blame anyone or anything other than themselves for any drawbacks or upsets they encounter in their lives.

    Remember the number, 1,043. Like Trump, the Establishment’s elite don’t like losing. Especially to White Christian people, who they believe to be little more than cattle, to be bought, sold and used. Yet they’ve lost at least 1,043 times. Their worst defeat was suffered at the hands of White Christians.

    Like people did on at least 1,043 different occasions throughout history, Americans are going to learn that the only way you win with (((them))) is to keep them as far away from you as possible.

  8. unit472 says:
    @Supply and Demand

    Hardly. The last time Taiwan was under Chinese sovereignty was prior to 1890. It was a Japanese colony from 1890 until 1945 and has never been under the control of the CCP regime. It is as independent a nation as India or any other former colonial possession.

    The CCP likes to claim things it has no right to. It comes up with ridiculous reasons like its so called 9 dash line to claim the South China sea when, truth be told, China’s understanding of geography was virtually non existent and they had NO concept of latitude or longitude or even that the earth was round when this claim was made.

  9. El Dato says:
    @Realist

    Taiwan was wrongfully taken from mainland China…by the west.

    What kind of alternate reality is this?

    • Agree: Verymuchalive
    • Replies: @Realist
  10. unit472 says:

    Back to Officer Chauvin. I’m optimistic the state cannot prove either malice or causation by police actions being responsible for his death. Even a Federal Civil Rights prosecution will be difficult as Chauvin followed approved police procedures to detain and control a person arrested on criminal charges.

    Floyd had serious health conditions to begin with and his use of a powerful opioid that has caused tens of thousands to die from overdoses does not point to Officers Chauvin’s knee being the instrument of his demise.

    That we have virulent negro racists like Keith Ellison, New York’s Letitia James and now Biden’s pick to head the DOJ civil rights division who care not a whit for the law is going to require the Federal Judiciary to slap them down hard or we are heading for a civil war.

    • Agree: Redman
  11. Emslander says:

    Floyd died of a self-inflicted drug overdose. That is the fact. If that fact is allowed to be presented in the officer’s trial, he will be acquitted, even by an all-black jury.

    Then the fan will get hit by every kind of stuff.

    Since elections are no longer honest, the ruling corrupt elite will be subject internally to all the centrifugal forces of division previously tempered by the illusion of democracy.

  12. El Dato says:
    @ForeverGone

    I’m sure that if Schiff removes the mask, there is some alien and unhuman thing under his nose and his mad, bulging eyes.

    Now, civil war will be easy. But how do you ecologically dispose of 60 million corpses or so?

  13. Can we please stop pretending that cop vs. negro is good guy vs. bad guy? It’s bad guy vs. bad guy. Let them both hang.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    , @Ace
  14. neutral says:
    @El Dato

    But how do you ecologically dispose of 60 million corpses or so?

    What is wrong with just digging a bunch of mass graves?

  15. Dr. X says:

    Generally, I do not like cops. They are often goons. (The Slager incident was an atrocity notwithstanding the race of the deceased; Slager should have been convicted on the state charges). Frequently they beat the hell out of white people and maliciously charge them. They are always self-serving; like dogs, they are loyal to whoever feeds them. If their master is the anti-white, GloboHomo Leviathan, then so be it. They are not on your side; they are on the side of whoever signs their paycheck.

    That being said, I believe in the truth and in due process, and I think Chauvin is getting a very raw deal. The original photos of Chauvin on Floyd’s neck looked pretty bad because they were disseminated out of context. When the second video of the entire incident came out, along with the autopsy report, it became clear that the cops were actually being quite professional and restrained and that Floyd was freaking out while on drugs.

    The whole thing is a classic case of pure demagoguery, intended to incite mobs in a democratic society. It is a perfect example of why America’s founders created a republic and disdained democracy.

  16. Realist says:
    @El Dato

    What kind of alternate reality is this?

    A better explanation is the Republic of China, which had overthrown and succeeded the Qing in 1911, took control of Taiwan on behalf of the World War II Allies following the surrender of Japan in 1945.
    This means the West supported the breakaway of the province of Taiwan from mainland China. This gave the West a foothold off the coast of the PRC. In other words, the US supported the two China policy.

    The fact is the US has no business in the internal affairs of the PRC.

    • Disagree: botazefa
    • Troll: Grahamsno(G64)
    • Replies: @Ace
  17. @El Dato

    Meat will be scarce during a civil war. Thus, I was going to suggest that many of the vanquished progressives, being vegans, could be rendered as food.

    The meat of herbivores carries much less dangerous bacteria and viruses than that of omnivores. Lamb or beef is less likely to poison you than pork, and is also much quicker and cheaper to cook. Therefore, vegan progressives could be cooked cheaply and quickly by an on the march militia over a campfire. (Civil war isn’t a time for holding POWs. And the trash can’t be freed.)

    But then I remembered that progressives have sick, debauched and satanically immoral sex lives. The shielding from disease, bacteria and viruses that is promoted by their plant based lifestyle has surely been negated by their propensity to regularly sodomise, and be sodomised by, complete strangers on moonless nights in parks and other quiet areas of their towns and cities.

    So, now I’m back to your question about how to dispose of them.

    • LOL: Currahee
  18. SMK says: • Website
    @unit472

    The outrageous decision of the white-hating black Muslim AG to prosecute Chauvin for murder, whether in the first- or second-degree, is based on mind-reading, the unsubstantiated and unproveable assumption that Chauvin intended to murder Saint George by kneeling on his neck. No minimally honest and rational person could believe something so preposterous.

    Murder requires intent, which must be proven, under the law, “beyond a reasonable doubt.” At worst, Chauvin is guilty of manslaughter. But to even convict the accused of negligent manslaughter, under the law, the prosecution would have to prove, “beyond a reasonable doubt, that Floyd would not have died of a drug-induced heart attack if Chauvin hadn’t knelt on his neck while he was handcuffed and lying on his stomach after resisting arrest and assaulting the police.

    But the law, as written, doesn’t matter to Keith Ellison (AKA, Hakim Muhammad), the judge and Jury, almost surely, virtually all blacks and white left-liberals, or the MSM. Thus Chauvin will be convicted of murder, almost surely, probably in the second-degree, and given the maximum sentence. If not, BLM, Antifa, and stereotypical violent recidivist black criminals will riot and loot and burn and assault cops and white bystanders, probably including at least a few murders, in hundreds of cities as they did for months after the death of saint George.

    • Agree: Ace
  19. dvorak says:
    @Realist

    Why would the act of China taking control of its province of Taiwan, be a crisis for the US??? Taiwan was wrongfully taken from mainland China…by the west.

    Any solutions…or do you enjoy pissing and moaning?

    Want to talk “wrongfully,” as in the PRC invasion of Korea to repel the round-eyes, or PRC support of the Viet Cong? Stalinists, remember. Or let’s just drop the pretense, and say that the powerful do what they can.

    Your special pleading doesn’t work here; however that might hurt the feelings of the Chinese people.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurting_the_feelings_of_the_Chinese_people

    • Replies: @Realist
  20. Katrinka says:
    @Dr. X

    I watched all the available video from the Saint George of Floyd death. Floyd asked to be placed on the ground. He also said 5 times before being placed on the ground that he could not breathe. Chauvin is innocent.

    • Replies: @Onan the Barbarian
  21. @Dr. X

    Michael Slager was also a victim of frame-up. While a bit more sympathy for Walter Scott may be justified in that case than with, say, Michael Brown, the whole conviction of Slager was bogus. To the extent that Walter Scott merits sympathy it’s as a victim of the child-support racket, not the fraudulent charges of “police racism” which were rammed through against Michael Slager.

    Walter Scott got a baby-mama pregnant through what may be regarded as careless behavior (for which Walter Scott himself bears some blame). That was how he ended up being hammered for child-support. The old child-support laws really are BS in the modern world. They were formulated at a time when it made sense to think of men as the money-earners and women as the poor penniless damsels in distress. But nobody in their right mind really believes that crap today. Many companies are under pressure to hire more females over males as a way of “righting the historic wrongs of sexism.” At the same time courts can still treat the male as the privileged one. This was where Walter Scott had a legitimate grief.

    As far as the incident with Michael Slager goes, he stopped Walter Scott and began questioning him. Whether or not that was necessary is beside the point. I got stopped on the ide of a highway walking home just a couple weeks ago. I had to cooperate with the officer and give him ID and explain my story that I was just getting out Denny’s and walking back home from breakfast. Nothing very unusual, even though I wasn’t thrilled about the incident. But Walter Scott knew that if the police checked his background then they would find him holding the child-support tab. So Walter Scott assaulted Michael Slager, tossed him to the ground, attempted to grab his taser and may have used it against Slager (although the details weren’t elaborated far enough in court to be certain how far Scott went with this), and then started running away.

    Any white man who did this would not only be shot by the police while he ran away but it would never have crossed most people’s minds that the officer should be prosecuted for anything. Some people might express a touch of sympathy over the child-support which the courts were demanding of him, but most would not. Those few who did would nonetheless agree that it was not Slager’s fault and that if you attack an officer in such a case then you can’t be too surprised about getting shot. Because Scott was black this was suddenly turned into a major case of “police racism.” Worst of all was the baby-mama who had screwed Scott over was rewarded with a multi-million dollar payout, an example which will only encourage more black women to do the same and hope for their own millionaire-earnings from a similar incident. Slager should be acquitted and that moola which was paid out to Scott”s baby-mama should instead be given over to the woman who was pregnant with Slager’s child at the time of the incident.

    • Agree: AceDeuce
  22. A most dear friend, a retired police officer, told me that there are bad people on both sides, either officers or from the general public. Hearing that, I see innocent people being squeezed in between both parties, and being the collateral damage from the clashes of these two. And there is no one around to speak for them, or at least have sympathy. Welcome to the 21st century America, where the concept of freedom and liberty depends on who’s in power.

  23. @Emslander

    He did not die of an overdose. Floyd died from the effects of police restraint while being in a vulnerable cardiovascular state from drugs and possbly covid. Cardiac arrest from stress under police restraint is a well-known phenomenon. He would not have died that day without the police encounter. That does not make Chauvin guilty, though. The video did show that other officers present seemed a bit more aware or concerned than Chauvin that Floyd was experiencing a serious physical crisis under restraint.

  24. GeeBee says:
    @unit472

    The CCP likes to claim things it has no right to

    Whereas the good ol’ US of A’s claim to control most of the planet is – er, what exactly? ‘God-given’? The birth right of self-awarded ‘exceptionalism’? The automatic patrimony of the champion of ‘democracy’ (oh, how richly comedic)?

    Frankly, I welcome all such Chinese ‘claims’, and fervently hope that one of them turns out to be ownership of your blasted sea-to-not-quite-so-shining-as-you-might-think-sea.

    Who can doubt that the removal of the USA from the world scene would confer an immediate and infinite blessing upon a world that has been so blighted by this curse of America for seventy-five years and more?

    • Agree: follyofwar, GomezAdddams
    • Replies: @unit472
    , @Chinaman
    , @Reg Cæsar
  25. unit472 says:
    @GeeBee

    The US is not without its faults but it does not include claiming sovereignty over the open ocean. The South China sea and the Straits of Taiwan are not Chinese waters anymore than the Gulf of Mexico or the Gulf of Alaska are American.

    I happen to think the US should not have gone to war with Iraq in 2003 though we had the right to under the terms of the February 28th, 1990 CEASEFIRE! We did not need to prove Iraq had WMD only that they had violated the CEASEFIRE and we could, under its terms, resume shooting if it was violated. They did and we resumed shooting. End of story.

    I also happen to be believe ‘Intelligence Agencies’ beyond those engaged in purely military intelligence cause more trouble than they are worth but, as Donald Trump found out, try to reign them in an they will use the same techniques they use to undermine hostile ‘foreign powers’ on their domestic enemies even if they are forbidden under the law to do so.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  26. Realist says:
    @dvorak

    Want to talk “wrongfully,” as in the PRC invasion of Korea to repel the round-eyes, or PRC support of the Viet Cong?

    The round-eyes should not have been in Korea…north or south.

    At least the PRC was in their own hemisphere…the US did not belong there.

    Your special pleading doesn’t work here; however that might hurt the feelings of the Chinese people.

    I am not pleading anything…the PRC will take care of the problem.

  27. @Occasional lurker

    No…..Floyd had a big overdose of fentanyl…..if you have seen the entire bodycam clip you see clearly that Floyd was out of his mind as he was DYING long before they put him to the ground.

    The short clip the jew media pushed did not show the whole story. They did the same thing with the Rodney King clips, skipping the part where King fought the cops.

    Floyd was calling for his mommy and totally whacked out, obviously high as a fucking kite, and in the middle of a heart attack saying he couldn’t breathe. This was LONG before he was taken to the ground.

    If you see the entire bodycam clip it’s a real eye opener and the truth can no longer be denied.

    The jew media ALWAYS lies.

    ALWAYS.

    • Agree: Genrick Yagoda
    • Replies: @Redman
  28. @unit472

    Some good points, sir, thank you. But I wonder whether the US would even “allow” the Taiwanese people to join mainland China if they voted for union in a national referendum. I doubt that the Taiwanese people would vote for that at present, but what should the US do if that happened?

    Also, is it worth a world war with the nuclear-armed largest economy and second-largest population in the world to prevent China from re-taking territory it long held that’s occupied by people of the same race, language, and history? I don’t want my son or any American boy dying for that.

  29. @Johnny Smoggins

    Appreciate the sentiment generally, but this particular cop didn’t do anything that warrants severe criminal punishment, so far as I can tell.

  30. @unit472

    We had no good defensive, retaliatory, or preemptive to attack and occupy Iraq in the first place.

    So how do we somehow gain a right to invade again because they violated an agreement ending our aggression?

    • Replies: @unit472
  31. Dr. X says:

    Officer Chauvin’s going to have many, many decades to regret he didn’t take the fast way out while he still had his service revolver.

    Hate to be pedantic here, but cops haven’t carried “service revolvers” since the 1980s. Wikipedia says Minneapolis P.D. transitioned to semi-autos in 1988.

    Unlike most journalists and reporters — who routinely publish stories with ridiculous lines like “Officer Jones fired fifteen rounds at the suspect with his Glock service revolver” — Derb is enough of a gun guy to know better…

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  32. MBlanc46 says:
    @unit472

    Those are just facts. Facts are never allowed to interfere with the Leftist agenda.

  33. unit472 says:
    @RadicalCenter

    I grow weary of discussing things with historical illiterates. Desert Storm ( 1990) was launched after Iraq invaded and and annexed Kuwait, an independent nation. There was a UN Resolution ( if you believe in legal niceties) authorizing the use of force so remove the Iraqis from Kuwait. Iraq signed a ceasefire agreement to end the hostilities but it kept violating it.

    I’d suggest you read more and post less because this is not a school but a discussion group.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  34. @unit472

    And we grow weary of rude pedantic assholes.

    I don’t think it was our place to stop Iraq from annexing Kuwait, whatever “authorization” that corrupt disgusting body known as the UN purported to give. The UN claiming to authorize something does not make it morally right, and does not make it necessary for the defense of the American people, our rights, and our territory, which is supposed to be the purpose of our military.

    And please don’t insult our intelligence with the notion that the US government has something against invading or attacking “independent nations”, as the US has done that over and over again without defensive or retaliatory justification. Speaking of “independent nations”, who made Kuwait a State separate from the rest of Iraq and what was their not-so-noble reason for doing so?

    And since you are so knowledgeable, you presumably know there is a strong case to be made that a US diplomat gave Hussein the green light to take Kuwait with the understanding that the US considered it an “Arab-Arab dispute” and wouldn’t do a thing about it:

    https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1102395/posts

    https://rense.com/general69/41.htm

    But to be fair, see the somewhat contrary view at https://www.counterpunch.org/2011/01/05/did-the-us-really-give-saddam-fake-ok-to-invade-kuwait/. Since “this is not a school”, though, I apologize in advance for trying to learn here and help others learn.

    • Replies: @Polistra
  35. @unit472

    You’re right that Taiwan was only ruled by the Chinese Kuomintang not the Chinese Communists. That was why the USA used to recognise the Government in Taiwan as the Government of all China.

    How does that mean that Taiwan is not part of China? The right to secede? donthomson1@hotmail.com

  36. @Occasional lurker

    George Floyd died of an overdose of fentanyl, and nothing else. There were no life threatening injuries he sustained as a result of the neck pin.

    That is right in the medical examiner’s report, and the ME’s conversation with the Hennepin County DA’s office.

    You do not have the faintest idea of what you are frothing about.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
    • Thanks: Onan the Barbarian
  37. @Robert Dolan

    That is not the full video. The full video is linked below, and it is worth watching all 30 minutes of the video.

    • Thanks: Robert Dolan
    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  38. @Genrick Yagoda

    Thanks….the full video tells the real story…..dude was high out of his mind and dying BEFORE they restrained him.

    But ask James Fields about “justice” in the jewish run court system.

    Officer Chauvin should walk but politics being so jewed…..who knows.

  39. Chinaman says:
    @unit472

    Hardly. The last time Taiwan was under Chinese sovereignty was prior to 1890. It was a Japanese colony from 1890 until 1945 and has never been under the control of the CCP regime. It is as independent a nation as India or any other former colonial possession.

    The CCP likes to claim things it has no right to.

    Well..California and Texas was under Mexico’s sovereignty since forever…Why don’t you support its independence? What about Alaska. I ain’t even contiguous to the mainland.

    There were only 13 states at the founding of the US. Rest of the States should be independent.

    America likes to claim things it has no right to.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    , @Rich
  40. Chinaman says:
    @GeeBee

    Taiwan will be America’s Suez moment. They will back down over Taiwan and fade into oblivion from the the world after that.

    Disintegration is their manifest destiny.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  41. @ForeverGone

    ForeverGone, you are a prepper after my own heart.

    I’ve got one word for your future, Ben, errr, ForeverGone: Home canning.

    (OK, that’s 2 words. Whatever!)

  42. @Chinaman

    The 13 original States were pretty damned independent even after the Constitution was signed. The Union was formed mostly for a common defense. There was nothing written to say a State could not opt out. The tyrant Abraham Lincoln decided that was not gonna work for him.

    I would love for Texas and California to become independent, Texas, so I could move there, and California, to get rid of much of the riff-raff and keep it’s influence away from the rest of us.

  43. @Chinaman

    Taiwan is none of the US’s business at this point. I agree with the Chinaman for once. Rip the treaty up now.

    • Agree: Jim Christian
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @neutral
  44. @Dr. X

    “Generally, I do not like cops. They are often goons. . . .”

    There are two kinds of cop: One stands behind his badge, the other hides behind his. There are too many of the latter, it seems. . . .

    As regards Chauvin: At first. I thought the worst about him. Now, with what we know about George Floyd’s drug use and underlying heart disease, I’m leaning toward acquittal for Chauvin.

  45. dfordoom says: • Website

    China will probably invade Taiwan.

    Why on Earth would they do something so stupid? Your Sinophobia is getting out of control.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
  46. @Supply and Demand

    ‘…Taiwan is a province of China, John…’

    I believe China could be said to have exercised more than nominal sovereignty over Taiwan for four years: from 1945 to 1949.

  47. @Achmed E. Newman

    ‘Taiwan is none of the US’s business at this point. I agree with the Chinaman for once. Rip the treaty up now.’

    The rights and wrongs of it all are somewhat academic. The hard truth is we can’t win a war with China that far from our shores and that close to China’s, fought over an issue China will care about more than we do.

    We can threaten war, but if we do, we’re either blundering or bluffing, and China’s likely to call us on it either way.

  48. neutral says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    This is similar to the Monroe doctrine or domino theory of communism in South East Asia, the people that rule America will draw a line in the sand for Taiwan no matter what, they are more than willing to sacrifice millions for this.

  49. @Realist

    Yes.
    And, let’s be honest, is there any reason in the foreseeable future for China to invade Taiwan?
    Unless provoked…..
    Not happening

    • Agree: Realist
  50. @Emslander

    The prosecution will argue the “but for” rule. But for the knee to his neck would GF have died? Manslaughter seems a 60% outcome…..

    • Replies: @Emslander
  51. @ForeverGone

    With the exception of the “loo lurkers” etc
    “But then I remembered that progressives have sick, debauched and satanically immoral sex lives.”
    Dream on — most of them are wankers — simple as…..

  52. @El Dato

    How to get rid of 60 million corpses? Well, separate them into ten heaps, declare holoco$t over the first pile, repeat nine more times. Easy.
    Hey, it worked in Europe! Sixmillions dead and we can’t find enough dead to fill a school hall!

  53. Emslander says:
    @animalogic

    The prosecution will argue the “but for” rule. But for the knee to his neck would GF have died? Manslaughter seems a 60% outcome…..

    But for fentanyl, but for heart condition, but for trying to pass counterfeit bill, but for his having traveled to Minneapolis, but for the weather conditions, . . .

    Sorry, but that argument goes nowhere in the legal system. What you may be trying to say, but haven’t quite zeroed in on, is that the court may want to find a cause, among the myriad of causes in the line of any event, that fits the current fashion.

    I suspect that the underlying cause that will be the most effective toward guilt will be that the man with his knee on the neck was a white, uncaring policeman in uniform. Recalls slavery and oppression. It just fit the narrative.

  54. @Colin Wright

    Why do you casually yet consistently use all the

    The rights and wrongs of it all are somewhat academic. The hard truth is we can’t win a war with China that far from our shores and that close to China’s, fought over an issue China will care about more than we do.

    We can threaten war, but if we do, we’re either blundering or bluffing, and China’s likely to call us on it either way.

    Buchananesque pronoun propaganda? This marinated identification with “our” government enables the Establishment’s wars.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  55. @dfordoom

    There are a lot of stupid people commenting here, have you noticed?

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    , @anon
  56. teo toon says:
    @Supply and Demand

    Could we screen for a minimum IQ; maybe the once standard 100IQ should be the lower end cut off point.

  57. @Colin Wright

    Colin, I do agree with you on the fact that we wouldn’t win that war, and America would find out what actual armed forces had better run like, rather than the Social Experiments they are today.

    However, I’d like to see just SOMEBODY mention that “hey, we run massive trade deficits with these countries. We are beyond broke. Taiwan would not exactly reciprocate were America in a war with the mainland. Both places are filled with Chinese people. The Cold War has been over for 32 years.” We’re out!

    I would hope that would be enough reasons for anybody but the Neocons to understand.

  58. @Greta Handel

    I get your point here, Greta, but my take is that Colin means “we” part of the time, as in who will be doing the fighting and dying, while yes, some of the “we”s mean the US Feral Government, which is not ME by any stretch of the imagination.

    That said, I will correct you on Pat Buchanan. Pat Buchanan is pretty old. He tends to use that old “she”/”her”/”hers” for countries, if you recall. “China will use her military to …”, etc. It’s kind of quaint, that’s for sure.

    [EDIT] Haha, I just noticed that I had lot of that in my reply to Colin. Some “we”s should be “The Feral Gov’t”, but it was about saving time. Sorry, you are right on this.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  59. Catdog says:
    @Realist

    Taiwan rightfully belongs to the Dutch.

    • LOL: Realist
  60. @Catdog

    How about the Taiwanese?

    • Replies: @Realist
  61. How did we get from Saint Floyd to Taiwan?

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  62. KenH says:

    I think the reason they are making Chauvin stand trial separately is so the other three officers testify against him for reduced sentences or no jail time. Without a doubt Ms. Melanin Kristen Clarke will charge Chauvin with so called federal civil rights violations if he beats the state charges just like she will charge the two men who shot Ahmed Arbery in self defense if a jury happens to acquit.

    To my knowledge no black person has never been charged with violating a white person’s civil rights which is proof that Jewish inspired “civil rights” law was always intended to be used as a blunt instrument against the white population.

    Nobody should be allowed to be retried at the federal level if they beat the state charges. The DOJ and states should be forced to decide whether to charge someone at the state or federal level but not both. And DOJ should not be allowed to use “civil rights” statutes against someone if they don’t like the verdict in state court or just because they wish to persecute a white person with objectionable political beliefs.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  63. @Robert Dolan

    Mr. Derbyshire couldn’t resist dropping yet another bit of

    China will probably invade Taiwan.

    into his column. It’s an apparent obsession.

  64. Neuday says:
    @unit472

    Being a cop must be quickly fading from any young White man’s list of career choices, so it will soon be left to the Latinos to police the cities, as we already see in Los Angeles, doing jobs Americans won’t, as it were. Imagine a Detroit, Cleveland, Atlanta or Baltimore PD that’s 60% or more Hispanic, who will very likely be much less patient with Black attitudes toward police. It would be quite easy to imagine a Donquavious killing Officer Gutierrez only to have La Familia take revenge after D.A. M’bekesousou declines to prosecute or the Black jury acquits. As Whites should be getting as far from cities as possible, maybe we can sit this one out. Not our circus; not our monkeys.

    • Replies: @Bernie
  65. @Achmed E. Newman

    Next time, consider the handy Cancel Reply button.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  66. Anon[240] • Disclaimer says:

    As I posted elsewhere, China is sending a no-war, no-invasion signal by creating gigantic (12,000 tons, the size of a destroyer!)) “coast guard cutters.” China creates a “presence” without using warships. The worst you get is a ramming or the exchange of small-arms fire. You do not get World War III. I am no military expert, but it seems to me this is a very desirable state of affairs.

  67. Rich says:
    @Chinaman

    Mexico became a nation in 1821, Texas in 1836. The Mexicans controlled it for only 15 years after stealing it from the Spanish Crown. In 1846 California declared independence from the Mexicans who had also stolen that region from the Spanish. Not exactly “since forever”. That being said, it probably wouldn’t be wise to start a war over Taiwan, but can the US avoid a war without losing too much face? I’m not sure, but I wouldn’t want my kids fighting over it.

  68. @Greta Handel

    That wouldn’t have worked. My reply to Mr. Wright was already past the 5-minute editing time.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  69. Realist says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    How about the Taiwanese?

    Over ninety-five percent of the population of Taiwan are Han Chinese.

  70. Truth says:

    Hey Derb, they released new video on you people’s Dangerous (and 100% organic) coup attempt…

  71. @Achmed E. Newman

    ???

    [EDIT] Haha, I just noticed that I had lot of that in my reply to Colin. Some “we”s should be “The Feral Gov’t”, but it was about saving time. Sorry, you are right on this.

  72. Ace says:
    @Johnny Smoggins

    The new gold standard. I’m indebted to you.

  73. Ace says:
    @Dr. X

    Cops I’ve encountered have been uniformly polite and professional. All but one let me off with a warning. Something about a dead body in my trunk.

    It must be obligatory to characterize them all as goons.

    • Replies: @Dr. X
  74. Ace says:
    @Realist

    The “WWII allies,” of which the Republic of China was one, did not take title to whatever territory they liberated from Japan.

    After Gen. Marshall and Truman did all in their power to screw the the Nationalist Chinese and facilitate the Chinese communist takeover of the mainland, the Nationalist Chinese government retreated to a province of China where they were safe from a communist takeover.

    • Replies: @Realist
  75. One of the most overlooked bits of evidence (in the popular imagination, I mean) will turn out to be George Floyd’s May 2019 confrontation with coppers, where Floyd swallowed the percs he was holding… and survived, presumably giving him the false confidence that he could do the same thing a year later with an identical outcome.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/george-floyd-minneapolis-previous-arrest-evidence/2020/10/15/8471e296-0f2b-11eb-b1e8-16b59b92b36d_story.html

    As we know, he was not so lucky the second time. But most people don’t know this or care to — so yes, there will certainly be an uproar when the murder charge doesn’t stick.

    • Replies: @Redman
  76. Realist says:
    @Ace

    The “WWII allies,” of which the Republic of China was one, did not take title to whatever territory they liberated from Japan.

    No, but they promoted and facilitated their retreat to Taiwan during the Chinese civil war.

  77. Bernie says:
    @Neuday

    I recently saw a photo of a police academy graduation in LA that looked almost all Hispanic.

    If LA becomes increasingly Hispanic then judges and politicians might not charge fellow Hispanic cops (or civilians) when they defend themselves against black criminals.

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
  78. Dr. X says:
    @Ace

    Where does my post say they are “all” goons? It says they are “often” goons, and it also says that the video shows that the cops who dealt with Floyd were actually rather professional.

    Basic reading comprehension shouldn’t be too much to ask for, “Ace…”

  79. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Paperback Writer

    There are a lot of stupid people commenting here, have you noticed?

    Outside a couple of blogs here (Audacious Epigone’s and Anatoly Karlin’s) you find amazing amounts of stupidity and craziness on UR.

    Derb’s blog attracts the ageing Cold Warrior demographic.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  80. @Greta Handel

    “… in my reply to Colin.” I didn’t want to cancel my reply to you. I just noted that I used that same “we” a couple of times when explaining about 5 reasons the US should get out of any “mutual” defense treaties with Taiwan.

  81. AceDeuce says:
    @Bernie

    Plenty of tacobreaths are already cops–in fact a sizable number of police shootings/beatings are done by them-although they are, like Zimmerman was, upgraded to “White” when it happens. The deadly 1980 Miami riots started after a knigro was shot and killed by hispanic cops. The LAPD Rampart scandal was due to nonwhite (black/brown) cops but the MSM let that detail slide, implying by omission that it was White cops at fault.

  82. @dfordoom

    Steve Sailer’s blog has the best commenting crowd. If not the most intelligent, they are the most worldly, common sensical, and humorous to boot. Lots of the other writers’ threads contain a sprinkling of hard-core Commies among a bigger number of clueless Socialists, many who don’t even in live in America, commenting on issues that they don’t know anything about, often with hifalutin wording wrapped around a big ball of stupid. That’s unfortunate.

    • Agree: Jim Christian
    • Replies: @dfordoom
    , @Jim Christian
  83. Redman says:
    @unit472

    Chauvin followed approved police procedures to detain and control a person arrested on criminal charges.

    Based on this, I don’t even see how they could even establish negligence for a negligent homicide charge.

    But causation is going to be the kicker. Enough fentanyl in his system to kill, and the cause of death not being listed as asphyxiation. Without the admittedly bad looking video footage, this case would probably have been thrown out.

  84. Redman says:
    @Robert Dolan

    Also, the point of getting him into the police car was to take him to the hospital because he was having a delirium episode and the EMT truck had f&*ked up and gone to the wrong address. This was more of a “restraint” for his own good, not an aggressive arrest.

  85. Redman says:
    @ADL Pyramid of Hate

    Of course they don’t care to know. Even this article in WaPo refers to how the cops in the May 6th incident tried to deescalate the situation. But that’s to imply that the cops on trial didn’t. But the bodycam footage (which, among the MSM, only the Daily Mail has published ) clearly shows that the cops on trial did try to deescalate it. Floyd was having a delirium episode. You can hear one of the cops asking Chauvin (the more experienced cop whom they all call sir) if he thinks it’s PCP because of his eyes darting back and forth.

    It’s notable that as soon as he’s on his stomach, his crying and whimpering continue for a while, but with much less intensity. Like he’d worn himself out after the aggressiveness when the cops tried to get him into the car and he fought himself free. When the younger officer asks Chauvin if they should roll Floyd on his side because of the delirium episode, Chauvin explains that’s why he “has him on his stomach.” Which implies that this was the established police protocol, which we now know to be true based on the MPD documents.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  86. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Steve Sailer’s blog has the best commenting crowd.

    That was true once.

    Lots of the other writers’ threads contain a sprinkling of hard-core Commies

    There are commies everywhere! Have you checked under your bed?

    News flash. It’s not the 1950s any more. There are still real enemies but the enemies are no longer the commies. The ideologies of today are not the ideologies of the 1950s. The real enemies today are the globofascists.

    Talking about commies just makes you sound really really old.

  87. @dfordoom

    History is rhyming right before our eyes, and yet you close them and make up new names. If you dressed him up in 1920’s garb, any one of the antifa useful idiots would be a spitting image of a useful idiot of the Communists of that day.

    Talking about Globofascists, NeoLiberals, or GloboCap just makes you sound really really young, like a retarded Millenial. I wonder if you’ve ever read an actual history book, DforDoom, or ever set foot in the US, for that matter. My comment above was about people like you.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  88. @Redman

    Thank you, Redman, for all of your comments with these details that the Lyin’ Press has not seen fit to emphasize, due to unfortunate oversight, I’m sure …

  89. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Achmed E. Newman

    History is rhyming right before our eyes, and yet you close them and make up new names. If you dressed him up in 1920’s garb, any one of the antifa useful idiots would be a spitting image of a useful idiot of the Communists of that day.

    Except that the antifa are the useful idiots of Woke Capital, so they’re on the opposite side from the communists of the 1920s.

    Talking about Globofascists, NeoLiberals, or GloboCap just makes you sound really really young, like a retarded Millenial. I wonder if you’ve ever read an actual history book, DforDoom

    You don’t just need to read history books. You need to understand them. History does not just repeat itself over and over again, with the same actors playing the same rôles. Unless it’s a cheap B-western the villains are not always the same villains and their villainy is not always the same. Society changes and ideologies change. It’s bad enough that Derb still thinks it’s the 1950s but thinking it’s still the 1920s is even more simplistic. Come on, you’re smarter than that. You know that we live in an entirely different society.

    The only communists left are a few 80-year-old professors living in the past.

    We still have would-be revolutionaries but the revolution they want is not the revolution that the communists of the 1920s wanted.

    My comment above was about people like you.

    No kidding. I would never have figured that out.

  90. Polistra says:
    @ForeverGone

    Their worst defeat was suffered at the hands of White Christians.

    Their greatest victory was performed for them by White Christians. 1940-45.

    And I suppose you could add just about every year since.

    BTW, I didn’t read much of your post. Life is short.

  91. Polistra says:
    @unit472

    Thanks. Lots of good information. (I used my month’s allotment of THANKS tags)

  92. Polistra says:
    @Emslander

    Floyd died of a self-inflicted drug overdose. That is the fact. If that fact is allowed to be presented in the officer’s trial, he will be acquitted, even by an all-black jury.

    The negroes where you are are clearly different from the ones where I am.

  93. Polistra says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Not to mention, when Bush The First issued his declaration against Iraq (“This Will Not Stand”), America’s Rogue Outpost in the Middle East was busy occupying land previously sovereign to every single one of its neighbors. But rules are for the little people–including rules against hypocrisy.

  94. Richard B says:
    @Dr. X

    It is a perfect example of why America’s founders created a republic and disdained democracy.

    This whole “We’re not a democracy! We’re constitutional republic!” is a perfect example of confusing names and things (one of the consequences of no longer teaching cultural history and critical thinking).

    A constitutional republic and democracy are not mutually exclusive. They’re indepdenent categories. One has to do with the form of government (CR) and the other with the culture. Democracy is simply the age old desire to live free.

    Not to mention the fact that Democrcacy itself takes on different forms. But they can be reduced to just two. Absolute Democracy and Free Democracy.

    Absolute Democracy is about popular government and personal freedom. This is the kind of democracy most have in mind when viewed negatively, and with reason. Because it leads to weak, ineffecient and corrupt rule it doesn’t take long for it to become a mobocracy run by a hostile elite. Like what we have now.

    Free Democracy is a balance between popular will and individual rights. An attempt to create a civilized society through the guarantee of civil liberties. It wants stability and peace but recognizes the dynamic character of society. That’s why freedom of speech is so important to it and why it works so well with a constitutional republic as a form of government. The two go together.

    But, this is also why it’s so difficult to achieve. Because it tries to accept diverse views among a relatively homegenous people. As opposed to what we have now, a single view enforced on a diverse group of people. It can’t be done. That’s why the country’s falling apart.

    Free Democracy requires more intelligence than most people are capable of, while
    Absolute Democracy imposes too much force, thereby undermining itself. Because if force fails there’s no alternative and the whole thing collapses, which is what we’re witnessing now.

    The best the hostile elite will ever manage is a Pyrrhic Victory.

    Either way, we’re losing both our government and our culture, our constitutional republic and the democratic culture it’s designed to regulate.

    As Hamlet said, The Readiness Is All!

  95. @dfordoom

    Woke Capital is Big Biz using government to do its bidding. This involves squashing competition with regulation and taxation. They would not be able to do this in a nation with small government, such as the USA circa 1700s – FD Roosevelt Era. The current LOCKDOWN tyranny is a case in point. Who does that hurt most, DforDoom? The Wal-Marts, Amazons, Facebooks, and these guys are doing just fine.

    This current “Woke Capital” mode works for these Crony Capitalists – it’s a symbiotic relationship with Government. The useful idiots in the streets are AGAINST this Crony Capitalism (I’ll go with “Woke Capital”). Just as the Commies of old did, though, they call this “Capitalism”, as if free markets without government interference were their problem. This gives them a reason to provide their solution to this “Capitalism”, which is government control, redistribution of wealth, as in Communism.

    I wrote the following a while back under an iSteve post:

    ***********************
    The situation does seem more like that of Russia in 1917, or 1920’s Germany, than America a hundred years ago, Mr. Halpenny. History doesn’t repeat, but it rhymes (is the expression, I think).

    The useful idiots are out in the streets again, railing against and destroying what’s left of the culture. Again they have this idea to create a utopia using big government to redistribute the wealth. Again they want full government control of society. They don’t quote Marx, as they don’t read as well as the folks did a century ago, and they talk about race and gender instead of class.

    Instead of a short-term violent revolution, the left has spend a half century infiltrating the institutions and has become the Establishment. They have Government, Media, Higher Education, Lower Education, and even Big Biz now. They still haven’t been able to completely take over society, though, because they took on a large, conservative, well-armed population. The big push to finish it all is happening right now though.

    Nope, it doesn’t repeat, but it rhymes.
    ***********************

    Note, DforDoom, rhymes, not repeats.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  96. Hibernian says:
    @Dr. X

    … but cops haven’t carried “service revolvers” since the 1980s.

    That was not universal going back that far. Granted, by now all, or almost all, exclusively use semiauto pistols.

  97. anon[166] • Disclaimer says:
    @Paperback Writer

    There are a lot of stupid people commenting here, have you noticed?

    Irony.
    Lol.

  98. anon[166] • Disclaimer says:

    It is too soon to tell how the trial of officer Chauvin will go, but predictions of riots are very much premature. Few noticed, but the Kenosha officer has been no-billed by the DA…and then, nothing happened.

    Nothing. Happened.

    Yeah, it’s cold in Wisconsin in January, but is that really the whole story? If no one hands out debit cards to Antifa so they can travel, they won’t travel. If no one hands out walking around money to BLM, they won’t walk around. Quite possibly “if no one green lights riots peaceful protests by ordering the cops to stand down, then there won’t be any riots peaceful protests” is also a factor. The various Soros-selected District Attorneys in certain cities played a big role.

    Plus…Bad Orange Man is now officially out of office, and therefore one of the major purposes for last years riots peaceful protests is gone. Mission accomplished.

    Derbyshire seriously underestimates just how Astroturfed many riots peaceful protests last year were.

    • Agree: Cortes
  99. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Woke Capital is Big Biz using government to do its bidding.

    I agree.

    This involves squashing competition with regulation and taxation.

    I agree.

    They would not be able to do this in a nation with small government, such as the USA circa 1700s – FD Roosevelt Era.

    Probably correct, but the growth of government is an inevitable consequence of modernity and technology. I don’t think there’s any way it could have been prevented.

    The current LOCKDOWN tyranny is a case in point. Who does that hurt most, DforDoom? The Wal-Marts, Amazons, Facebooks, and these guys are doing just fine.

    I agree.

    This current “Woke Capital” mode works for these Crony Capitalists – it’s a symbiotic relationship with Government.

    I agree. We don’t have either socialism or capitalism in the sense that those terms were understood a century ago. What we have is a weird globalist variant of fascism. I still think globofascist describes it pretty well.

    This gives them a reason to provide their solution to this “Capitalism”, which is government control, redistribution of wealth, as in Communism.

    That’s where we differ. Nobody today is proposing any such thing. The entity that currently describes itself as the “Left” has zero interest in redistribution of wealth. It worships bankers and billionaires. It’s funded by bankers and billionaires. The actual agenda is a redistribution of wealth from the poor and the lower middle class to the upper middle class and the elite.

    And nobody is seriously advocating government control – what they are advocating is control by a partnership between Big Business and Big Government. I’d call that fascism rather than communism.

    History doesn’t repeat and it doesn’t rhyme either. It mutates. It mutates into entirely new forms. The old fascism was nationalistic. The new fascism is globalist. Hence globofascism.

    The “Left” of today would be entirely unrecognisable to a communist of the 1920s. Or even the 1950s.

    Derb is obsessed by the evil ChiComs. But the Chinese Communist Party of today would be entirely unrecognisable to a Maoist of the 1950s. Since Deng took over the Chinese Communist Party has created an entirely new ideology which has nothing in common with Maoism or with any communist ideology that existed in the 1950s.

    I agree with you on a lot of things. But calling the “leftists” or the antifa loons of today communists is misleading, inaccurate, unhelpful and counter-productive. The “leftists” and antifa loons of today represent something new and different. In my opinion what they represent is much more dangerous and much more pernicious than old school communism. They’re not fighting for the poor. They’re fighting for the rich.

  100. Derb is obsessed by the evil ChiComs. But the Chinese Communist Party of today would be entirely unrecognisable to a Maoist of the 1950s. Since Deng took over the Chinese Communist Party has created an entirely new ideology which has nothing in common with Maoism or with any communist ideology that existed in the 1950s.

    Mr. Derbyshire knows a whole lot about China from some years spent there and from his wife, who must still have Chinese connections who know what’s really going on there. You think that he uses “Chicoms” to refer to Maoists, but that’s not his meaning, IMO. I think by Chicoms, he refers to the CCP. They run the place. The CCP says “jump”, and the Chinese government says “how high?”

    The Chinese Communist Party is not Communist economically, and he knows that. They are Totalitarian. However, the Chinese people have had a long reprieve from the severe repression of Mao, since Deng let loose of the economy (to a big degree, not all) in the early 1980s. That reprieve is over with, since well before Xi had the constitution* changed to make him President for life in ’18. The Orwellian stuff going on in that country now can be read about in a book I reviewed called We Have Been Harmonized.

    .

    * Small “c”, because if a simple vote of the government can change it completely, it ain’t no real constitution.

  101. Mike Tre says:
    @dfordoom

    You aren’t qualified to assess which commenting section has the best group, as you are like 19 years old and still live in mom’s basement.

    Karlin’s commenter’s are OK, AE’s are mostly bad, including you. Most of you guys are blank slating egalitarians, (Who think if rich white liberals disappeared all of the country’s problems with negroes and tranny’s and the rest would just go away) which is the equivalent of throwing chum in the political waters.

    • Agree: Jim Christian
  102. @ForeverGone

    Why would they want civil war? They have a growing stranglehold on the country as it is.

  103. @unit472

    Chauvin and (ex??) wifey are also facing criminal tax evasion charges. Something about a lot of luxury vehicles and a vacation house on the coast of Florida. Sounds like a “lifestyle/assets vs. reported income reconstruction” based audit by the IRS. Those audits are expensive and rarely undertaken and one can only wonder if the Chauvins were even on the IRS’s radar prior to all of this St. George the Holy Hooper unpleasantness.

  104. @Greta Handel

    Sorry, you are right on this.

    Every now and then Achmed gets the bat on the ball..

  105. @Achmed E. Newman

    Steve Sailer’s blog has the best commenting crowd.

    Depends on the subject, Achmed. What was it, two years back on these here ISteve pages was one of the best engineering discussions on aviation and commercial air I ever read during the 737 Maxx disaster. Lots of stuff Steve puts up is self-evident and the old hands lay off because: redundancy. It gets left to newbie idiots sometimes such as the World War Hair series Steve puts up. That shit is hilarious! But for us, it’s already been talked out. As for Anatoly, Derbs here, several other writers, many, they’re on a higher level digging historical details most commenter-types don’t get and so the ‘comment police’ come out, like your new best friend DFORDOOM.

    Achmed, the whole ball of wax here is interesting and while freakazoid liberal trolls come around, they don’t stay, evidently. Their brains bleed out and they seem never to return. Be well young man.

  106. @GeeBee

    Who can doubt that the removal of the USA from the world scene would confer an immediate and infinite blessing upon a world that has been so blighted by this curse of America for seventy-five years and more?

    Make that eighty. We got involved in the Pacific war to no one’s benefit. As you imply, the Japanese were better behaved, and all we did was mess things up.

    You could still be enjoying your membership in the Co-Prosperity Sphere!

  107. @dfordoom

    Except that the antifa are the useful idiots of Woke Capital, so they’re on the opposite side from the communists of the 1920s.

    Not according to the John Birch Society, which saw the Bolshies as mere puppets of the First Woke Capital.

  108. @Catdog

    Taiwan rightfully belongs to the Dutch.

    Not if the Portuguese have any say in Formosa’s future.

    And, unlike the Dutch, they don’t eat their prime ministers.

  109. @Katrinka

    And do you really think the jury will care?

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