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Craig Murray, a former ambassador to Uzbekistan, the father of a newborn child, a man in very poor health and one who has no prior convictions, will have to hand himself over to the Scottish police on Sunday morning. He becomes the first person ever to be imprisoned on the obscure and vaguely defined charge of “jigsaw identification”.

Murray is also the first person to be jailed in Britain for contempt of court in half a century – a period when such different legal and moral values prevailed that the British establishment had only just ended the prosecution of “homosexuals” and the jailing of women for having abortions.

Murray’s imprisonment for eight months by Lady Dorrian, Scotland’s second most senior judge, is of course based entirely on a keen reading of Scottish law rather than evidence of the Scottish and London political establishments seeking revenge on the former diplomat. And the UK supreme court’s refusal on Thursday to hear Murray’s appeal despite many glaring legal anomalies in the case, thereby paving his path to jail, is equally rooted in a strict application of the law, and not influenced in any way by political considerations.

Murray’s jailing has nothing to do with the fact that he embarrassed the British state in the early 2000s by becoming that rarest of things: a whistleblowing diplomat. He exposed the British government’s collusion, along with the US, in Uzbekistan’s torture regime.

His jailing also has nothing to do with the fact that Murray has embarrassed the British state more recently by reporting the woeful and continuing legal abuses in a London courtroom as Washington seeks to extradite Wikileaks’ founder, Julian Assange, and lock him away for life in a maximum security prison. The US wants to make an example of Assange for exposing its war crimes in Iraq and Afghanistan and for publishing leaked diplomatic cables that pulled the mask off Washington’s ugly foreign policy.

Murray’s jailing has nothing to do with the fact that the contempt proceedings against him allowed the Scottish court to deprive him of his passport so that he could not travel to Spain and testify in a related Assange case that is severely embarrassing Britain and the US. The Spanish hearing has been presented with reams of evidence that the US illegally spied on Assange inside the Ecuadorean embassy in London, where he sought political asylum to avoid extradition. Murray was due to testify that his own confidential conversations with Assange were filmed, as were Assange’s privileged meetings with his own lawyers. Such spying should have seen the case against Assange thrown out, had the judge in London actually been applying the law.

Similarly, Murray’s jailing has nothing to do with his embarrassing the Scottish political and legal establishments by reporting, almost single-handedly, the defence case in the trial of Scotland’s former First Minister, Alex Salmond. Unreported by the corporate media, the evidence submitted by Salmond’s lawyers led a jury dominated by women to acquit him of a raft of sexual assault charges. It is Murray’s reporting of Salmond’s defence that has been the source of his current troubles.

And most assuredly, Murray’s jailing has precisely nothing to do with his argument – one that might explain why the jury was so unconvinced by the prosecution case – that Salmond was actually the victim of a high-level plot by senior politicians at Holyrood to discredit him and prevent his return to the forefront of Scottish politics. The intention, says Murray, was to deny Salmond the chance to take on London and make a serious case for independence, and thereby expose the SNP’s increasing lip service to that cause.

Relentless attack

Murray has been a thorn in the side of the British establishment for nearly two decades. Now they have found a way to lock him up just as they have Assange, as well as tie Murray up potentially for years in legal battles that risk bankrupting him as he seeks to clear his name.

And given his extremely precarious health – documented in detail to the court – his imprisonment further risks turning eight months into a life sentence. Murray nearly died from a pulmonary embolism 17 years ago when he was last under such relentless attack from the British establishment. His health has not improved since.

At that time, in the early 2000s, in the run-up to and early stages of the invasion of Iraq, Murray effectively exposed the complicity of fellow British diplomats – their preference to turn a blind eye to the abuses sanctioned by their own government and its corrupt and corrupting alliance with the US.

Later, when Washington’s “extraordinary rendition” – state kidnapping – programme came to light, as well as its torture regime at places like Abu Ghraib, the spotlight should have turned to the failure of diplomats to speak out. Unlike Murray, they refused to turn whistleblower. They provided cover to the illegality and barbarism.

For his pains, Murray was smeared by Tony Blair’s government as, among other things, a sexual predator – charges a Foreign Office investigation eventually cleared him of. But the damage was done, with Murray forced out. A commitment to moral and legal probity was clearly incompatible with British foreign policy objectives.

Murray had to reinvent his career, and he did so through a popular blog. He has applied the same dedication to truth-telling and commitment to the protection of human rights in his journalism – and has again run up against equally fierce opposition from the British establishment.

Two-tier journalism

The most glaring, and disturbing, legal innovation in Lady Dorrian’s ruling against Murray – and the main reason he is heading to prison – is her decision to divide journalists into two classes: those who work for approved corporate media outlets, and those like Murray who are independent, often funded by readers rather than paid big salaries by billionaires or the state.

According to Lady Dorrian, licensed, corporate journalists are entitled to legal protections she denied to unofficial and independent journalists like Murray – the very journalists who are most likely to take on governments, criticise the legal system, and expose the hypocrisy and lies of the corporate media.

In finding Murray guilty of so-called “jigsaw identification”, Lady Dorrian did not make a distinction between what Murray wrote about the Salmond case and what approved, corporate journalists wrote.

That is for good reason. Two surveys have shown that most of those following the Salmond trial who believe they identified one or more of his accusers did so from the coverage of the corporate media, especially the BBC. Murray’s writings appear to have had very little impact on the identification of any of the accusers. Among named individual journalists, Dani Garavelli, who wrote about the trial for Scotland on Sunday and the London Review of Books, was cited 15 times more often by respondents than Murray as helping them to identify Salmond’s accusers.

Rather, Lady Dorrian’s distinction was between who gets protected when identification occurs. Write for the Times or the Guardian, or broadcast on the BBC, where the audience reach is enormous, and the courts will protect you from prosecution. Write about the same issues for a blog, and you risk being hounded into prison.

In fact, the legal basis of “jigsaw identification” – one could argue the whole point of it – is that it accrues dangerous powers to the state. It gives permission for the legal establishment to arbitrarily decide which piece of the supposed jigsaw is to be counted as identification. If the BBC’s Kirsty Wark includes a piece of the jigsaw, it does not count as identification in the eyes of the court. If Murray or another independent journalist offers a different piece of the jigsaw, it does count. The obvious ease with which this principle can be abused by the establishment to oppress and silence dissident journalists should not need underscoring.

And yet this is no longer Lady Dorrian’s ruling alone. In refusing to hear Murray’s appeal, the UK supreme court has offered its blessing to this same dangerous, two-tiered classification.

Credentialed by the state

What Lady Dorrian has done is to overturn traditional views of what constitutes journalism: that it is a practice that at its very best is designed to hold the powerful to account, and that anyone who engages in such work is doing journalism, whether or not they are typically thought of as a journalist.

That idea was obvious until quite recently. When social media took off, one of the gains trumpeted even by the corporate media was the emergence of a new kind of “citizen journalist”. At that stage, corporate media believed that these citizen journalists would become cheap fodder, providing on-the-ground, local stories they alone would have access to and that only the establishment media would be in a position to monetise. This was precisely the impetus for the Guardian’s Comment is Free section, which in its early incarnation allowed a varied selection of people with specialist knowledge or information to provide the paper with articles for free to increase the paper’s sales and advertising rates.

The establishment’s attitude to citizen journalists, and the Guardian’s to the Comment is Free model, only changed when these new journalists started to prove hard to control, and their work often highlighted inadvertently or otherwise the inadequacies, deceptions and double standards of the corporate media.

Now, Lady Dorrian has put the final nail in the coffin of citizen journalism. She has declared through her ruling that she and other judges will be the ones to decide who is considered a journalist and thereby who receives legal protections for their work. This is a barely concealed way for the state to license or “credentialise” journalists. It turns journalism into a professional guild with only official, corporate journalists safe from legal retribution by the state.

If you are an unapproved, uncredentialed journalist, you can be jailed, as Murray is being, on a similar legal basis to the imprisonment of someone who carries out a surgical operation without the necessary qualifications. But whereas the law against charlatan surgeons is there to protect the public, to stop unnecessary harm being inflicted on the sick, Lady Dorrian’s ruling will serve a very different purpose: to protect the state from the harm caused by the exposure of its secret or most malign practices by trouble-making, sceptical – and now largely independent – journalists.

Journalism is being corralled back into the exclusive control of the state and billionaire-owned corporations. It may not be surprising that corporate journalists, keen to hold on to their jobs, are consenting through their silence to this all-out assault on journalism and free speech. After all, this is a kind of protectionism – additional job security – for journalists employed by a corporate media that has no real intention to challenge the powerful.

But what is genuinely shocking is that this dangerous accretion of further power to the state and its allied corporate class is being backed implicitly by the journalists’ union, the NUJ. It has kept quiet over the many months of attacks on Murray and the widespread efforts to discredit him for his reporting. The NUJ has made no significant noise about Lady Dorrian’s creation of two classes of journalists – state-approved and unapproved – or about her jailing of Murray on these grounds.

But the NUJ has gone further. Its leaders have publicly washed their hands of Murray by excluding him from membership of the union, even while its officials have conceded that he should qualify. The NUJ has become as complicit in the hounding of a journalist as Murray’s fellow diplomats once were for his hounding as an ambassador. This is a truly shameful episode in the NUJ’s history.

Free speech criminalised

But more dangerous still, Lady Dorrian’s ruling is part of a pattern in which the political, judicial and media establishments have colluded to narrow the definition of what counts as journalism, to exclude anything beyond the pap that usually passes for journalism in the corporate media.

Murray has been one of the few journalists to report in detail the arguments made by Assange’s legal team in his extradition hearings. Noticeably in both the Assange and Murray cases, the presiding judge has limited the free speech protections traditionally afforded to journalism and has done so by restricting who qualifies as a journalist. Both cases have been frontal assaults on the ability of certain kinds of journalists – those who are free from corporate or state pressure – to cover important political stories, effectively criminalising independent journalism. And all this has been achieved by sleight of hand.

In Assange’s case, Judge Vanessa Baraitser largely assented to US claims that what the Wikileaks founder had done was espionage rather than journalism. The Obama administration had held off prosecuting Assange because it could not find a distinction in law between his legal right to publish evidence of US war crimes and the New York Times and the Guardian’s right to publish the same evidence, provided to them by Wikileaks. If the US administration prosecuted Assange, it would also need to prosecute the editors of those papers.

Donald Trump’s officials bypassed that problem by creating a distinction between “proper” journalists, employed by corporate outlets that oversee and control what is published, and “bogus” journalists, those independents not subject to such oversight and pressures.

Trump’s officials denied Assange the status of journalist and publisher and instead treated him as a spy who colluded with and assisted whistleblowers. That supposedly voided the free speech protections he constitutionally enjoyed. But, of course, the US case against Assange was patent nonsense. It is central to the work of investigative journalists to “collude” with and assist whistleblowers. And spies squirrel away the information provided to them by such whistleblowers, they do not publicise it to the world, as Assange did.

Notice the parallels with Murray’s case.

Judge Baraitser’s approach to Assange echoed the US one: that only approved, credentialed journalists enjoy the protection of the law from prosecution; only approved, credentialed journalists have the right to free speech (should they choose to exercise it in newsrooms beholden to state or corporate interests). Free speech and the protection of the law, Baraitser implied, no longer chiefly relate to the legality of what is said, but to the legal status of who says it.

A similar methodology has been adopted by Lady Dorrian in Murray’s case. She has denied him the status of a journalist, and instead classified him as some kind of “improper” journalist, or blogger. As with Assange, there is an implication that “improper” or “bogus” journalists are such an exceptional threat to society that they must be stripped of the normal legal protections of free speech.

“Jigsaw identification” – especially when allied to sexual assault allegations, involving women’s rights and playing into the wider, current obsession with identity politics – is the perfect vehicle for winning widespread consent for the criminalisation of the free speech of critical journalists.

Corporate media shackles

There is an even bigger picture that should be hard to miss for any honest journalist, corporate or otherwise. What Lady Dorrian and Judge Baraitser – and the establishment behind them – are trying to do is put the genie back in the bottle. They are trying to reverse a trend that over more than a decade has seen a small but growing number of journalists use new technology and social media to liberate themselves from the shackles of the corporate media and tell truths audiences were never supposed to hear.

Don’t believe me? Consider the case of Guardian and Observer journalist Ed Vulliamy. In his book Flat Earth News, Vulliamy’s colleague at the Guardian Nick Davies tells the story of how Roger Alton, editor of the Observer at the time of the Iraq war, and a credentialed, licensed journalist if ever there was one, sat on one of the biggest stories in the paper’s history for months on end.

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In late 2002, Vulliamy, a veteran and much trusted reporter, persuaded Mel Goodman, a former senior CIA official who still had security clearance at the agency, to go on record that the CIA knew there were no WMD in Iraq – the pretext for an imminent and illegal invasion of that country. As many suspected, the US and British governments had been telling lies to justify a coming war of aggression against Iraq, and Vulliamy had a key source to prove it.

But Alton spiked this earth-shattering story and then refused to publish another six versions written by an increasingly exasperated Vulliamy over the next few months, as war loomed. Alton was determined to keep the story out of the news. Back in 2002 it only took a handful of editors – all of whom had risen through the ranks for their discretion, nuance and careful “judgment” – to make sure some kinds of news never reached their readers.

Social media has changed such calculations. Vulliamy’s story could not be quashed so easily today. It would leak out, precisely through a high-profile independent journalist like Assange or Murray. Which is why such figures are so critically important to a healthy and informed society – and why they, and a few others like them, are gradually being disappeared. The cost of allowing independent journalists to operate freely, the establishment has understood, is far too high.

First, all independent, unlicensed journalism was lumped in as “fake news”. With that as the background, social media corporations were able to collude with so-called legacy media corporations to algorithm independent journalists into oblivion. And now independent journalists are being educated about what fate is likely to befall them should they try to emulate Assange or Murray.

Asleep at the wheel

In fact, while corporate journalists have been asleep at the wheel, the British establishment has been preparing to widen the net to criminalise all journalism that seeks to seriously hold power to account. A recent government consultation document calling for a more draconian crackdown on what is being deceptively termed “onward disclosure” – code for journalism – has won the backing of Home Secretary Priti Patel. The document implicitly categorises journalism as little different from espionage and whistleblowing.

In the wake of the consultation paper, the Home Office has called on parliament to consider “increased maximum sentences” for offenders – that is, journalists – and ending the distinction “between espionage and the most serious unauthorised disclosures”. The government’s argument is that “onward disclosures” can create “far more serious damage” than espionage and so should be treated similarly. If accepted, any public interest defence – the traditional safeguard for journalists – will be muted.

Anyone who followed the Assange hearings last summer – which excludes most journalists in the corporate media – will notice strong echoes of the arguments made by the US for extraditing Assange, arguments conflating journalism with espionage that were largely accepted by Judge Baraitser.

None of this has come out of the blue. As the online technology publication The Register noted back in 2017, the Law Commission was at the time considering “proposals in the UK for a swingeing new Espionage Act that could jail journalists as spies”. It said such an act was being “developed in haste by legal advisers”.

It is quite extraordinary that two investigative journalists – one a long-term, former member of staff at the Guardian – managed to write an entire article in that paper this month on the government consultation paper and not mention Assange once. The warning signs have been there for the best part of a decade but corporate journalists have refused to notice them. Similarly, it is no coincidence that Murray’s plight has also not registered on the corporate media’s radar.

Assange and Murray are the canaries in the coal mine for the growing crackdown on investigative journalism and on efforts to hold executive power to account. There is, of course, ever less of that being done by the corporate media, which may explain why corporate outlets appear not only relaxed about the mounting political and legal climate against free speech and transparency but have been all but cheering it on.

In the Assange and Murray cases, the British state is carving out for itself a space to define what counts as legitimate, authorised journalism – and journalists are colluding in this dangerous development, if only through their silence. That collusion tells us a great deal about the mutual interests of the corporate political and legal establishments, on the one hand, and the corporate media establishment on the other.

Assange and Murray are not only telling us troubling truths we are not supposed to hear. The fact that they are being denied solidarity by those who are their colleagues, those who may be next in the firing line, tells us everything we need to know about the so-called mainstream media: that the role of corporate journalists is to serve establishment interests, not challenge them.

(Republished from Jonathan Cook by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. El Dato says:

    Well we are in the candle burnout times of civilizations where the wanderers of corridors, curated by men behind curtains, start to work uncontested, eager to please the power brokers on the other side of the cocktail table. History lists their names, and there will be more. The modern innovation is that there will be a lot more females in their ranks – strong tendencies towards conformism (i.e. “doing what is expected of them”) paired with rank nastiness are certainly qualities in demand right now.

    As the online technology publication The Register noted back in 2017

    Quite humorous. IIRC, the Register hopped onto the Hate Assange Bandwagon very early which I found appalling.

  2. El Dato says:

    In that vein:

    Chris Hedges: The price of conscience

    This week, drone warfare whistleblower Daniel Hale has been sentenced to 45 months in prison for telling the American people the truth.

    Daniel Hale, a former intelligence analyst in the drone program for the Air Force who as a private contractor in 2013 leaked some 17 classified documents about drone strikes to the press, was just sentenced to 45 months in prison.

    The documents, published by The Intercept on October 15, 2015, exposed that between January 2012 and February 2013 US special operations airstrikes killed more than 200 people. Of those, only 35 were the intended targets. For one five-month period of the operation, according to the documents, nearly 90% of the people killed in airstrikes were not the intended targets. The civilian dead, usually innocent bystanders, were routinely classified as “enemies killed in action.”

    The Justice Department coerced Hale, who was deployed to Afghanistan in 2012, on March 31 to plead guilty to one count of violating the Espionage Act, a law passed in 1917 designed to prosecute those who passed on state secrets to a hostile power, not those who expose to the public government lies and crimes. Hale admitted as part of the plea deal to “retention and transmission of national security information” and leaking 11 classified documents to a journalist. If he had refused the plea deal, he could have spent 50 years in prison.

    Newsflash: Everyone knows that Uncle Shmuel kills indiscriminately and doesn’t even have the common decency to fess up to it. There is no need to clown-out and do show trials.

  3. Wow What a story Craig Murray is indeed a courageous reporter.

  4. Vicious and evil persecution. Major source of the endless cowardly Corona virus madness that has engulfed the planet. Even the origin of the Trump peepee tapes. Though just a yapping poodle in the daylight, it’s increasingly clear that at the edges, safely in the shadows, pommystan is the diseased brain of the Evil Empire.

    Free Murray! Free Assange!

  5. lysias says:

    The fact that the powers that be regard informing the public as as bad as — or even worse than — informing enemy powers shows that they now regard the public as their true enemy.

    • Thanks: Iris
    • Replies: @sally
  6. @El Dato

    The evil irony that for 17 documents he gets 45 months in jail while Hillary and her tens of thousands of “off the books” communications gets a pass

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @Stan d Mute
  7. Those lovers of truth, what is left of them, in Scotland believe Salmond was fitted up by an utterly corrupt Scottish establishment. The last I heard they were now trying to do away with jury trials so that people like Salmond will never escape their clutches. The Scottish legal system was once famous (justly) but like everything else in the West it is now in ruins. The person who has presided over this was the Lord Advocate, a Jew, who declared his ethics were formed by the holocaust.
    https://www.heraldscotland.com/life_style/16598766.war-anti-semitism-old-family-secret-dark-history-helped-shape-james-wolffe-lord-advocate-scotland/

    Surprise, Surprise.

    At the last census there were 6,000 Jews in Scotland in a total population of 5,295,403.
    https://www.scotlandscensus.gov.uk/census-results/at-a-glance/population/
    https://www.scotlandscensus.gov.uk/census-results/at-a-glance/religion/

    Murray should have come straight out and named the perjurers/crooks in the Salmond trial and also those complicit in the establishment if he truly believed they had lied (it seems he genuinely believed this and from what I have read he was right) but he chose the worst of all solutions by ending up in jail whilst the population at large still do not know the names of those involved nor their relationship to Nicola Sturgeon who rules as effective dictator of Scotland.

    For all the evil which now rules over Scotland it is nothing to what faces anyone who promotes dismembering of babies in their mothers wombs or insists that children are force fed homosexual propaganda.

    • Thanks: Iris
  8. thank you, jonathan, your website & blog are profoundly important. stay safe, which is increasingly difficult all but impossible for those holders, defenders & purveyors of truth.

    somewhat OT: i am mystified by ecuador’s latest aggression. if anyone can illuminate how citizenship is linked to a fee & the necessity to pay it—as a canadian i have never to my recollection been required such toll nor any friend or relative—& why was this ‘toll charge’ not simply handled by assange’s legal team or wikileaks? thank you.

    • Agree: Iris
    • Replies: @Spanky
  9. The former ambassador to Uzbekistan is due to start prison time on Sunday after judges ruled his blog coverage of the former first minister’s trial could identify four complainers.

    The 62-year-old’s offending blog posts contained details which, if pieced together, could lead readers to identify women who made allegations against Mr Salmond, who was acquitted of all 13 charges including sexual assault and attempted rape in May last year.

    Buffoon Murray hoped to help former SNP leader Alex Salmond in his court case by exposing the women accusing him of sexual assault. There are laws against this sort of thing in many states, not just in Scotland.
    Salmond was SNP leader for 20 years. He enforced changes that transformed the SNP from a more or less traditional nationalist party to the Neolib, Homoglobalist, Europhile clique that you see today. Traditional nationalists, myself included, were purged or forced to resign.

    Nicola Sturgeon, his successor, was tasked with continuing Salmond’s policies and legacy. But Salmond wouldn’t stay retired and started doing things that his successors didn’t like, appearing on RT and Sputnik inter alia. The sex allegations were very convenient. They were beefed up and sent to the criminal court for prosecution.
    The principal actor in all of this seems to be Peter Murrell, Sturgeon’s husband and CEO of the SNP. He is widely regarded as the real power in the SNP – a sort of Uncle Ian to Sturgeon’s Wee Jimmy Krankie.
    The Murrell clique got the women to beef up the charges, there seems little doubt about that. They thought that, even without a conviction, there would be enough smears to sink Salmond for good. It was a very high risk strategy, given that Salmond was the previous leader and, if it worked, it might seriously damage the party. In the event, it failed.

    Essentially, this is a dispute between 2 Homoglobalist, Europhile cliques. There are minor differences between them – the Salmond clique is willing to talk to Russia, the Murrell clique, following EU policy, isn’t. Murray, despite posing as an anti-establishment figure, holds essentially the same views as Salmond. I care nothing for either of them. Scotland has always had might tighter contempt of court laws than England or other Common Law jurisdictions. So no change there.
    This is a contempt of court issue, not a free speech issue. Cook should not pretend otherwise.

  10. It has always been like this. The judicial system of every country on earth is geared towards facilitating the political powers of the state. The myth of ‘Independent Judiciary’ is/was just that, a myth. What has changed is the environment. With the advent of the net, it’s all coming out in the public sphere. This Genie will never go back into the bottle and this battle will go on forever.

    • Agree: onebornfree, Realist
    • Replies: @MLK
  11. lysias says:

    Why doesn’t someone identify the perjurers on line? Ideally a non-Scot not operating in Scotland, so he’s not subject to Scottish courts.

  12. @Verymuchalive

    If you don’t see that Murray is critical of the establishment, you dont see anything. You dont seem to have read what he wrote about Assange, and you dont seem to know what he wrote about his own case. I have my doubts that you read Cook’s article at all. Your comment only shows how disinformed you are.

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
  13. @Uncommonground

    Whatever he wrote about other matters is irrelevant to my case. He is part of the Homoglobalist Europhile cliques that has controlled the SNP for nearly 30 years. They are Nationalists in Name Only.
    I did mention that the Salmond clique did take a somewhat more anti-establishment line. However, in actuality, these are minor differences only.

    As I emphasized previously – something you completely ignored – this is a contempt of court case, not a freedom of speech case. Scotland has had a stricter contempt of court law for hundreds of years, something that Murray would have known about.

    • Replies: @Whataboutery2020
  14. I don’t understand why the entire world decided to bathe in darkness. It was doing so well.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  15. J1234 says:

    No offense, but if you are completely unfamiliar with this case and want to find out what’s going on, this is not the article to read.

    • Disagree: Biff
  16. some_loon says:
    @J1234

    Could you link to an article that would better explain it then?

    Or say where Cook is wrong?

    Or does telling someone not to take offence (the reader? the author?) supposed to cover for this?

    ‘No offense’, but your drive-by comment doesn’t really tell us ‘what’s going on’.

    Another commenter, @Verymuchalive, at least pointed out that Cook (in his view) gave short shrift to the matter of contempt of court. Could you be troubled to add something about the matter? I mean, if Cook did such a bad job of it that you felt a need to tell us he did.

    • Agree: Realist, emersonreturn, Biff
    • Replies: @J1234
  17. aspnaz says:

    The UK has become China where any person can be convicted of “sedition” without even a case, let alone serious evidence. It is similar to the way the Maffia mob bosses would run their territories. Thugs, the lot of them, death is too kind, especially for the lice that live on the beast, lice like the corrupt judge mentioned above: Lady Thug.

    The country is lost, so much corruption in government that there is no reasoning with it any more. The only rational response is to leave or don’t pay any tax: personally I would rather pay the equivalent of my tax monies to a lawyer plus accountant than pay any monies to the government.

    • Replies: @dogbumbreath
  18. Half Back says:

    Well what can you say, the senseless dentitions and coercion makes it difficult to have a positive view of human interactions. Dark times ahead, economic failure to put the cherry on top. US and UK leadership is non existent and play to semantic and semitic power. If the mass media made something of this- he be out of Jail in minutes. President Putin stands heads and above our current rabble leadership..

    • Agree: Kali
  19. At least Judge Jeffries had the courage to hang people. Our modern day Quislings in stockings (and that’s just the males) simply refuse to hear cases. same in UK as US.

  20. Yet more proof of the TOTAL moral corruption of Western polities. The so-called ‘rule of law’ is, in fact, the rule of the elites with judges able to invent any fantasy that suits their ideological ends. As for the presstitutes in the NUJ-any group considered fit for employ by monsters like Murdoch and the BBC and Guardian sewers are bound to be treacherous, self-serving, swine, as they plainly are. The presstitute scum in Austfailia acted the same re. Assange. One year a Walkley Award for journalism. The next he is hounded as a rapist, and vilified, particularly by feminazi zealots, then COMPLETELY forgotten, as if his unending imprisonment simply does not exist. The West surely cannot become much more Evil before it self-destructs.

    • Agree: Tsar Nicholas
    • Replies: @Spanky
  21. @J1234

    Bullshit. This article sums it up perfectly, but leaves out the interesting fact that the wee monster, Sturgeon’s, nassty regime is riven by discord between two factions of lesbians, one ‘traditionalist’ and private, the other ‘activist’. AND that there is clear evidence of conspiracy in the fabricating of the charges against Salmond.

  22. @El Dato

    And the Evil vermin who authorised and carried out the drone massacres suffer not at all. There is the glorious West in all its foul glory.

  23. @Verymuchalive

    Obvious, but still interesting, that sexual offences were used against both Salmond & Assange.

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
  24. Murray is a twat. He constantly whines about “racists” – ie anyone who doesn’t agree with him about flooding the country with ethnics.
    He has a martyr complex and I think he wanted to get jailed. Then, since he got sentenced, he can’t stop complaining about it.
    He really isn’t worth the effort.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
  25. @Verymuchalive

    Well Murray isn’t even Scottish. Like Alastair Campbell, he’s English but has convinced himself he’s Scottish – probably why they’ve both ended up with mental health issues.

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
  26. @Verymuchalive

    Buffoon Murray hoped to help former SNP leader Alex Salmond in his court case by exposing the women accusing him of sexual assault. There are laws against this sort of thing in many states, not just in Scotland.

    This is a contempt of court issue, not a free speech issue. Cook should not pretend otherwise.

    This is correct.

    From Murray’s tweet in the article:

    Actually what I found most shocking about that was the peculiar determination of the judges to make sure that, during the three weeks we have to lodge the appeal, I am not allowed to go to Spain to testify in the criminal prosecution for the CIA spying on Assange’s legal team.

    More likely, the judges felt that a convicted criminal who is free pending his appeal posed a severe risk of flight.

    From the article:

    Murray is also the first person to be jailed in Britain for contempt of court in half a century

    This is simply untrue. Tommy Robinson was also jailed for contempt of court:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48950672

    and Google turns up other cases too.

    • Agree: gandydancer
    • Thanks: Verymuchalive, Bill Jones
    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
  27. Spanky says:
    @emersonreturn

    A pretext…

    Ecuador’s president is currying favor with Washington — because without the hegemon’s “help” he would not have been “elected”.

  28. @lysias

    Exactly. In any sane society, perjurers who falsely accuse someone of a crime should be thoroughly exposed and sentenced to the same prison term their victim was liable to.

    • Agree: GMC
  29. Spanky says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    The West surely cannot become much more Evil before it self-destructs. — Mulga Mumblebrain

    You are an optimist…

    • LOL: acementhead
    • Replies: @moi
  30. Gordo says:

    Media contempt of court is surely what Tommy Robinson went to jail for as well.

    • Agree: gandydancer
  31. gotmituns says:

    All law has been sabotaged by the manner in which people live, the jewish takeover of all law schools, and the constant brainwashing of people through all manner of media. In the end, it will come down to killing, centered on the elite/jewish ruling class.

  32. нет правды в правде и нет новостей в известиях

  33. Murray’s imprisonment for eight months by Lady Dorrian, Scotland’s second most senior judge, is of course based entirely on a keen reading of Scottish law rather than evidence of the Scottish and London political establishments seeking revenge on the former diplomat.

    And going back even further, we can be sure the establishment wasn’t seeking revenge for Murray’s daily exposures of the lies and inconsistencies in the British narrative about the so-called novichok poisoning of Sergei and Yulia Skripal in 2018. (Funny how some statements can get away without a sarcasm tag.)

    It’s now three and a half years since that incident and we still do not have any positive indication that Sergei and Yulia are still alive or even still in England. For all we know they could be relaxing at a seaside villa south of Sochi. Courtesy of Mr. Putin.

  34. “The Obama administration had held off prosecuting Assange because it could not find a distinction in law between his legal right to publish evidence of US war crimes and the New York Times and the Guardian’s right to publish the same evidence, provided to them by Wikileaks. If the US administration prosecuted Assange, it would also need to prosecute the editors of those papers.”

    Don’t agree at all. The Obama administration arrested Manning in 2010, tortured her, tried and sentenced her in 2013 (to 35 years in jail). By the time they turned their attention to Assange he was safely under asylum in the Ecuadorian embassy (starting in 2012). Obama and Trump administrations would happily have left him there to rot (spying on him non-stop, and gathering information on wikileaks and their leakers). A lot of pressure was put on Ecuador of course, and after Moreno replaced Correa, Assange’s asylum quickly wore thin and he was booted out in 2019, and immediately arrested. Assange’s crime was NOT the stated interactions with Manning (and with the chief witness, the convicted pedophile “Sigi” Thordarson, recanting his testimony publicly, it should have ended), but rather in 2016 daring to expose the corruption of Hillary Clinton and the Democrats (of whom the FBI and CIA now seem to be a branch). If Assange had been booted out in 2016, Obama would have been all over him, as with all the other whistleblowers (more arrested than all under all other presidents before him.)

    • Agree: Peripatetic Itch
    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  35. @Sick of Orcs

    With the Soviet Union gone and China successfully lifting a billion plus people out of the dirt in a prosperous totalitarian society, the Criminal Elite of the “Free World” realised they no longer have to go through many of the motions of what made the “Free World” relatively free.

    We’re all China now.

    • Agree: gatobart
    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
    , @Jewcifer
  36. Kali says:

    . Honest jounalism criminalised and imprisoned.
    . The public denied access to honest debate on any meaningful issue.
    . Truth-tellers/seekers marginalised and outcast along with the umvaxxed.
    . Muzzled masses lining up for quasi-manditory medical/genetic experimentation.
    . Billionaire funded globalist “think-tanks” and ngos directing national policy.
    . Inceasant and insane provocations toward Russia/China, et al.
    . Hyper-sexualisation plus indocrinated gender-confusion of our children.
    . Mass importation to the West of people whos countries (((Western leaders))) have destroyed.
    . Entire nations under siege by medical mafias-cum-governments.
    . Criminalisation of free expression and protest.
    . Legalisation of criminal activities by state actors.
    . Coming soon… “Climate Lockdown” and a genocidal “zero-carbon” policy.

    . Jewish Power (((\$\$\$))) directing all of this unimaginable insanity.

    The Western Establishment is the de-facto enemy of the Western people.
    No-one working within the establishment can be trusted. None should be followed!

    What’s to be done?
    How might we organise to defend our countries from the all-powerful enemy within?
    “Lost in a Roman wilderness of pain” indeed. (Thanks Pepe. Thanks Jim.)

    We are ALL Palestinians now.

    But I can’t leave it there!
    Palesine is FREE because it is stateless. In chains because it is stateless in a world governed by states.
    I too am free because I am stateless. And in chains because the states monopolies and contain freedom.

    There is only one solution that I can see: PARTY! – Not political party, STREET PARTY!

    When we come together in life-affirming celebration of life, of God, of one another, when we dance and sing out our joys and our pains in unity, so do we heal, so do we empower ourselves, so do we FREE ourselves!

    Riots will not work.
    Protests will not work.
    Petitoons to the state will not work.

    But nobody can argue with God-given right to celebrate the life that God has given us!

    Remember Woodstock? Remember the optimism of the 80’s. Remember welcoming in a whole new millenium?
    Take that same energy out onto the streets of every major (and minor) town and city everywhere and let those insane MFs working for the state stop us!
    Sure there may be massacre and bloodshed when they try. Maybe then the muzzled masses will finally wake up!

    It may take 1000 years to return to a more natural order. So what?
    If WE are going to take history back then we need to start right now!!!

    Best wishes and God-speed to all.
    Kali.

  37. @animalogic

    In Salmond’s case, it was an accident waiting to happen. He is married to a woman 16 years older than himself, who prefers to live at home in the North of Scotland, rather than Edinburgh. There has been stories of other women, but nothing really stuck. When he was First Minister, he resided at the First Minister’s Residence, designed by Robert Adam. He used it as a bachelor pad cum drinking den, by all accounts. Was he guilty of wandering hands, lewd talk? Who knows ? But sexual assault, definitely not.

    Salmond has very few real friends in politics. I suppose this was one of reasons that the Murrell Gang thought they could get away with it. How did they nearly get away with it ? The women involved were not, as claimed, regular civil servants. If you read the reports carefully, you learn that they were political appointees acting as political officers. In other words, they were card-carrying SNP members already. The case went from minor disciplinary matter in March 2018 to serious criminal case 6 months later. It’s clear that these women collaborated with the SNP hierarchy to beef up charges and set up Salmond.

    I am not an admirer of Mr Salmond, for reasons already stated. But remember, these people were promoted and supported by him in his years as First Minister. But they had no compunction in trying to destroy him. With friends like that, who needs enemies.

    • Replies: @animalogic
  38. moi says:
    @Spanky

    Yup, we have a ways to go before we hit rock bottom.

  39. @Whataboutery2020

    Murray’s father was Scots, but mother English. He was brought up in England. In the last 10 years, he has bought a house in Edinburgh and started taking an interest in SNP politics. He is married to a 40 year-old Uzbekh actress.
    No, he’s not Scots.

    • Replies: @some_loon
  40. MLK says:

    The Obama administration had held off prosecuting Assange because it could not find a distinction in law between his legal right to publish evidence of US war crimes and the New York Times and the Guardian’s right to publish the same evidence, provided to them by Wikileaks. If the US administration prosecuted Assange, it would also need to prosecute the editors of those papers.

    Nonsense. With all we now know, why would this well-informed author endorse this fairy story suggesting Obama officials of goodwill struggling to adhere to the law and not set bad precedents regarding journalists no less.

    It’s essential to distinguish between the objectives relating to Assange pre and post Trump and the 2016 election. Without his winning campaign, and without Assange releasing damaging information on Hillary et. al., with him surely in possession of much more on all the filth from Obama on down through the Deep State, they would have persecuted Assange on the QT.

    Am I the only one who remembers that when he fled into the embassy he was universally presented as a big baby and drama queen. It’s a good thing this author wasn’t advising him at the time to trust the Oliver Wendell Holmes types in the DOJ to get to the right answer protecting the 4th Estate under President Obama’s wise insistence!

    It was Trump winning and their failure to pull off keeping him from taking the oath that completely reprioritized their malefactions toward Assange. Mere days before leaving office Obama commuted Manning’s sentence. Per its terms release was strangely delayed until May 17, which just so happened to be the date of Mueller’s appointment Special Counsel.

    Donald Trump’s officials bypassed that problem . . .

    Nonsense, again. These were the same officials and you’ve got a screw loose if you think it’s anything but misleading to imply they were acting under his authority.

    Rather than rehearse this further, just accept that “Trump Must Go!” became THE priority. That meant controlling Assange at a minimum, and breaking him to use against Trump if possible. Murray played a not inconsequential disruptive role. He’s now getting payback for it and, here’s where I agree with Cook at least in his implication, with the added bonus of killing journalist chickens to scare the monkeys and chickens alike.

    I suggest you simplify. There is no there there in terms of honor or principled action, or even limits, for what coalesced into the global anti-Trump alignment. I’m astounded that this author is still engaged in a fool’s errand of trying to divine it as if they deserve even a Devil’s Advocate. They’re not even evil geniuses, they just have the power to act with impunity.

  41. Realist says:
    @InnerCynic

    As long as U. S. citizens allow it…the buggery will continue.

  42. @Whataboutery2020

    You are right about Murray being a twat, but not even assholes should be subject to baseless political persecution.

    (Unless it’s by me, of course)

    • Replies: @Whataboutery
  43. MLK says:
    @Rev. Spooner

    I disagree, it hasn’t always been like this. Monumental differences of degree are still notable differences.

    Moreover, it’s memory-holing to conflate all judicial systems in every country. During the Cold War, an independent judiciary, even if imperfectly so, was one of the institutions in the West that distinguished us favorably from communist and authoritarian regimes.

    To my observation you’re hardly alone in being conditioned to accept the descent into totalitarianism as nothing new in the West.

    With the end of the Cold War, the powers that be figured out there really wasn’t any good reason they had to be on their best behavior any longer. With the rise of CCP China, the ruling and governing classes in the West decided those features of Western polities were really bugs if you’re sitting where they sit.

    Believe me, there are some hard days ahead getting these ships of state righted. But if you ask me all of these would be totalitarians in the West are delusional. It’s as if they think Stalin, Hitler, Mao and their et. al. were engaged in something easy, peasy!

    Pay attention to the current mass protests in Europe in opposition to the lockdowns and creation of “Green passports.” Are you going to bet on Boris “Look at me I’m having another baby!” Johnson or the millions in the streets? What about that incompetent globalist simp Macron?

    Indeed, one of the many things I’ve always liked about the French citizenry is that when they’ve finally had enough nothing is lost in the translation.

  44. Exile says:

    The governments of Scotland/UK are basically occupiers at this point, no less at odds with and set on tyrannizing and exploiting the population than they were in Northern Ireland.

    Murray’s no criminal and jailing him is not about justice or keeping the peace – it’s about punishing a political enemy, nothing better than that – and of no benefit to the people of Scotland or the UK.

    If Murray were a Russian voicing similarly cutting criticism of Putin, he would not be facing the persecution he’s receiving from the high-and-mighty oh-so-concerned-about-freedom British government.

    Britain’s government is an illegitimate occupying power – but it’s only safe for me to say this because I’m in the U.S.

  45. BorisMay says:

    I wish it was as simple as this article suggests. The truth, however, is somewhat different. Assange works for what is a currently discredited clique of Jews in Israel that intended to take control, of Israel, and through that the UK and the US.
    To prove his ability Assange published the entire membership list of the British National Party, a legally constituted political organisation of 12,000 members which can stand in parliamentary elections, who wish to repatriate immigrants with enough money out of the public purse, that on return to their home countries would enable them to live happy and fulfilling lives. The Jews, of course, hate this idea.
    So Assange betrayed the very people he had come to live amongst, as so many Australians do to curry favour with the elites. This one fact is always ignored by people who write on Assange’s behalf: that Assange is a TRAITOR to the indigenous British people who serves an alien cabal of Jews.
    Assange is not what this writer claims. Murray, on the other hand, knows exactly what he is doing and from the very beginning has known he has overstepped a number of red lines. While it could superficially be argued that he is exposing corruption at the highest level, it should be noted that EVERYONE in Britain is aware, and has been aware for decades, that the powers that be within the British Establishment are utterly corrupt, totally dishonest and are a bunch of self serving back stabbing bastards.
    Murray isn’t revealing anything we don’t already know, apart from a bit of sordid detail. Out of all this Murray will make a lot of money from speaking tours, books and maybe even a film. Murray is looking for a comfortable retirement and is not the high level whistle blower the writer would have you think he is.
    The caveat, of course, is that the British legal system, and more recently, the laws passed by our government of occupation, have turned the tables such that the government can do what it likes without any legal redress by the population.
    Assange deserves everything he gets for revealing the private information about the members of the British National Party.
    Murray is just creating a story for his next book.
    But people who write about this sort of thing are no more friends of the truth than the Establishment they purport to expose.

    • Thanks: Thim
  46. @Bill Jones

    He wasn’t really though, was he.
    He has no clue about the norms or constraints of court reporting and he was warned off but he’s so far up his own arse he thought he could play silly word games in pretending to hide identities.
    No point in fining him as he’d crowdfund the fine off the morons on his blog.
    His only defence is literally whataboutery – ie what about Garavelli?
    Between that and his bleating about his health – maybe prison will help shift his massive gut – it’s more difficult to imagine a more cowardly display

    • Replies: @Jack McArthur
  47. @The Alarmist

    communism has never worked, and never will.

    Sooner rather than later, chinkos are going to wonder why a few million shitbirds control the rest of them. Either they’ll be a glorious uprising or a withering on the vine like Russia.

    • Replies: @awry
  48. sally says:
    @lysias

    nothing is bad.. about informing the public..the bad are the forces keeping the public uninformed.
    What is bad <= is that the public has failed to act to deny those with a few powers, their freedom o use those few powers to manipulate the rule of law making powers of the nation state system. If there were no nation state, <=informing the public, would not be a criminal act.

    Where the hell is the public? Explain to me, why the public is not up in arms about this crisis in humanity rights? Is the public unaware of its obligation to deny state acts <=which infringe human rights? Can there be some external explanation for public negligence to nation state infringement threats ?

  49. Agent76 says:

    December 14, 2016 EXCLUSIVE: Ex-British ambassador who is now a WikiLeaks operative claims Russia did NOT provide Clinton emails – they were handed over to him at a D.C. park by an intermediary for ‘disgusted’ Democratic insiders

    Craig Murray, former British ambassador and associate of Julian Assange, told the Dailymail he personally received Clinton campaign emails in Washington D.C..

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4034038/Ex-British-ambassador-WikiLeaks-operative-claims-Russia-did-NOT-provide-Clinton-emails-handed-D-C-park-intermediary-disgusted-Democratic-insiders.html?ito=email_share_article-top

    Jun 10, 2021 Assange wins the Sacco & Vanzetti Award for Social Justice in Boston

    The award was received from the Community Church of Boston by Julian Assange’s father and brother, who are currently on a speaking tour of the US to rally support for press freedom and dropping the charges against Assange.

  50. J1234 says:
    @some_loon

    You’re not understanding. I have no familiarity with this subject matter at all, but wanted to find out more, as I have an interest in government censorship of unpopular viewpoints. I don’t live in Scotland, though. After reading through a considerable portion of this article, I still couldn’t tell exactlywhat the basic elements of this case/event/incident were…just that someone I’d never heard of was arrested and there was a lot of pretext involved. The author seems to be presuming reader familiarity with the case, but I think it’s safe to say there are a lot of readers here who hadn’t heard of this person. Hopefully that gives my statement some context.

    • Replies: @some_loon
  51. at what point in this TLDR article are the charges against Murray explained?

  52. @Whataboutery

    it’s more difficult to imagine a more cowardly display

    Other than you who flames under a pseudonym?

    • Replies: @Whataboutery
  53. TGD says:

    What is it with these hard ass female judges? Are they out to prove that they are tougher than male judges or more eager to do the establishment’s bidding? In the USA, lesbian federal judge (((Alison J. Nathan))) has consistently refused to grant bail to Ghislaine Maxwell even after Maxwell offered to put up a \$28.5 million dollar bail bond and further to renounce her British and French citizenship.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-people-ghislaine-maxwell/ghislaine-maxwell-loses-third-bid-for-bail-idUSKBN2BE31C

    I suspect that the real reason the “deep state” wants Maxwell to stay incarcerated is because she can spill the beans on the moral corruption endemic in the higher echelons of US politics.

    • Replies: @dogbumbreath
  54. @Jack McArthur

    Here we go.
    I’m not flaming anything, whatever “flaming” might have meant back in the 1990s.
    I’m stating an opinion based on reading his blog contemporaneously at the time of the trial..
    He’s full of shit and his attempts to squirm out of his self-imposed (and no doubt lucrative) prison sentence are embarrassing.

    • Replies: @Jack McArthur
  55. @BorisMay

    Your comments read like you do not care about gross abuses of justice if the person does not share your beliefs. I do not share his politics, I think he should have exposed the perpetrators if he concluded the justice system was corrupted but the man is now in prison. Do you think this is deserved or if not do you think people just accept corruption?

    • Replies: @BorisMay
  56. @InnerCynic

    Not irony, but the anarcho-tyranny under which we have lived for at least five decades.

    • Agree: InnerCynic
  57. Not a day goes by when one or all of (((technopolies))) hall room speech monitors unfold their globalists censorship tentacles by suppressing alternative voices. One of the Latest attack on free speech was Alphabet/Google/YouTube suspension of Australia’s Sky News.
    Meanwhile (((Media Maggots))) are given free passes and lucrative ad campaigns to help boost their worthless 24/7/365 gibberish.

    https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20210801-youtube-suspends-sky-news-australia-channel

    • Agree: Daniel Rich
  58. @Whataboutery

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flaming_(Internet)#Flame_war

    There is only one coward on display here and its not the guy in prison as best I can see.

    • Replies: @Whataboutery
  59. awry says:
    @Sick of Orcs

    China is not communist, it’s a capitalist economy, with strong state control. Also China was always “authoritarian”. Xi Jinping is basically the emperor.

    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
  60. @Jack McArthur

    Is that your best shot, protocols Jack?
    You should stick to wings over Scotland?

  61. @TGD

    What is it with these hard ass female judges?

    The reason is simple and also includes men. The people are “ugly” and “unattractive”. These types of people have developed severe “inferiority” complexes and because they are in a position of power, they can inflict their revenge on others. Many people feel this way but not ALL are in a position of power. Self hate is a powerful force and can be manipulated. It’s not easy to look at yourself in the mirror everyday and deep down not like what you see. Notice how 99% of the psychopaths in power are unattractive people. Women have it worse because the standards of attractiveness are constantly re-enforced.

  62. SafeNow says:

    Yes, official, mainstream media are often corruptly endorsing official explanations. They will seldom tell me, for a example, that there is a recent Japanese university study that contradicts U.S. Covid policy and practice – – even when they know that the study exists. But I will add an additional factor, which is the ineptitude and laziness of their writers. They will use adjectives like sometimes or often or usually, rather than telling me, quantitatively, the magnitude. They will quote experts who are not nearly the best, simply because they were easily available. For example, recently, non-climatologists were opining on the “attribution” of the heat waves and floods. And, they will often fail to explain how phenomena really work, preferring a shortcut. For example, explaining the hot weather in Oregon, the writer will say there was a heat “dome,” as if saying “dome” explains it.

  63. One problem is ethno-monopoly of media and deep state in the Anglosphere world. But we are not supposed to say that. You see, the Tribe can hate us but we can’t call out on them. No amount of Jewish anti-white hatred is called ‘hate’ but mere questioning of Jewish Power is HAAAAAATE and must be stamped out. ADL working with Paypal to purge accounts and report them to the FBI. Joe McCarthy was an amateur. Jewish Triberals were never about principles but always about power.

    If I could choose between freedom and tyranny, I would choose freedom.
    But if I had to choose between tyranny of the abnormal and tyranny of the normal, I would choose tyranny of the normal.
    The West is no longer about liberal freedom but mandatory consensus. Mandatorians inverted all standards to the point where ‘reality’ is whatever Jewish supremacists say it is.
    Against the tyranny of insanity, tyranny of sanity is preferable… even necessary.

    • Replies: @Iris
  64. “According to Lady Dorrian, licensed, corporate journalists are entitled to legal protections she denied to unofficial and independent journalists like Murray – the very journalists who are most likely to take on governments, criticise the legal system, and expose the hypocrisy and lies of the corporate media.”

    There is no such thing as a licensed journalist in the US. And I don’t think they exist in the UK.

    There is not legal process by which one is designated a journalist. You don’t even need a degree to be a journalist or practice journalism.

    • Replies: @some_loon
  65. @aspnaz

    The UK has become China

    Not quite. China is NOT forcing it’s population to take a “gene therapy” mRNA vax. They are using “traditional” inactivated vax. Big big difference there. Also, China owns it’s currency and runs a “Industrial Capitalism” economy. The benefits trickle down as evidenced by the number of people lifted out of poverty. In the UK, the situation is reverse. The wealth goes to the top and the people are getting poorer. As for freedom, there has been no lockdowns or government imposed closed businesses in China since May 2020. Now that the UK’s “financialized” system is about to implode, they create this “great reset”. The UK was only free because they were able to profit by exporting this monetary fraud. Now that the fraud is nearing its end, they are coming back for their own population. You were just privy to live in a “window” of freedom. It wasn’t always this way in the UK.

    • Agree: Iris, gatobart
    • Replies: @gatobart
  66. Dorrian is the person who gave Carol McMillan three years probation for kicking a 58-year old grandmother to death – in a row over a parking space.

    https://ukcommentators.blogspot.com/2006/01/superb-1-2-for-scots-judge.html

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
  67. Thim says:

    This Murray is an anti white open borders leftist. But Assange, mentioned so often in this article. Assange. Isn’t that the maggot that doxxed the entire membership list of the British National Party?

  68. @James N. Kennett

    I’m sure, also, that the judges were aware of the Ponsati case, and the likelihood that Murray would fight deportation for a very long time.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clara_Ponsat%C3%AD

  69. Iris says:
    @Priss Factor

    According to a very prominent Zionist press pundit in France, called Frederic Haziza, people refusing to submit to mandatory vaccination are akin to anti-Semites.

    Unbelievable, grotesque but true. This is how deep the Western intellectual mind has sunk under Zionist ideological domination.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  70. BorisMay says:
    @Jack McArthur

    Corruption is everywhere. This, along with unemployment, homelessness and poverty is caused by usury.

    Lots of people employ usury, not just Jews, to screw money and, ultimately, property, where debt repayment fails and that held up as security is taken in lieu of cash.

    As long as the world is held to ransom by usurers corruption will be necessary to achieve anything other than mere existence.

    Justice is a perception within a given context and can only be defined as being so within given parameters.

    The problem with grifters like Assange is that he uses information that appears to be terrible (war crimes according to a Geneva Convention on such) without regard to the fact that every nation commits war crimes indiscriminately where it sees fit. There are no good or bad countries, only some that are not so bad and others not so good.

    Assange was rather naive and should have thought first before doing what he did, because like so many of his type he thought he was cleverer than ‘the system’ that the Establishment runs.

    I was brought up in that system. It is known as private boarding schools generally, or ‘public schools’ in the UK, where parent pay a fee for their child to be educated in a particular way.

    Later in life you then choose to be either part of the Establishment or against it. But either way, you know that this system has been in operation for 1000 years in the UK, and it unfailingly wins out in the end, so standing against it is foolhardy. For the naive like Assange, he thought he could defeat it. Now he has to have another think.

    • Replies: @Jack McArthur
    , @Iris
  71. Here are some of the main issues:

    1) Anonymity of the alleged victim(s) protected by court but not the anonymity of the accused and the charge (seemingly backed up with evidence produced at the trial) being that this was used to hide the names of people involved in a conspiracy which if successful would have led to the elimination of a political opponent by sending him to prison or, at the very least, to tarnish his reputation and so ending his political career anyway. One sided anonymity court orders are manifestly unjust. The evil they seek to eliminate is replaced by an even greater evil.

    2) Contempt of court is a serious matter but if there are substantial grounds for believing the court is corrupt backed up by firm evidence, independently evaluated and confirmed as far as possible, is the person under obligation to expose such even if it means becoming victim of the same “justice” system? Not everyone is equipped for this but those who are surely worthy of respect..

    3) The conspirators failed to gain a single conviction in all the multiple charges made against Salmond in a jury dominated by women.

    4) Despite the want of a single successful conviction the media (which received millions from the government last year for corona “support”), and Sturgeon herself, continued to treat Salmond as if he had been convicted in the most brazen and dishonest way to ensure mud stuck. The average person in Scotland has no idea of what has been going on because the media reported the accusations made in the trial but not any perjury or proven untruths.

    5) Any attempt to frame Salmond failed because a jury was present to see through what was actually taking place but now I gather the same establishment that are being accused of perverting justice now wish to dispense with juries in similar trials. The wickedness of this is breathtaking.

    6) That the judge in the trial did not prosecute any of the mainline press, who apparently gave easy clues to identify the accusers, is not seen as simple oversight but blatant evidence that Murray, like Salmond, was being targetted by a corrupt establishment.

    7) The cries of corruption against an establishment is now made throughout the West and surely a principle safeguard has to be some vestiges of a free press which will hold people to account. The jailing of Murray is seen as coarse intimidation meant to deter any investigative reporting using weapons such as jigsaw identification i.e. if that had not been available something else would have been contrived.

    • Thanks: Iris
    • Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian
  72. @YetAnotherAnon

    Don’t wet your pants, YAA. Craig will be out after 2 months, after spending nearly all his time in the prison hospital.
    He is married to a fit 40-year old Uzbekh actress. Allah willing, she will shag him to death and he will die of a massive heart attack, and we will never hear of him again.
    https://www.instagram.com/nadira.murray/?hl=en

  73. Just want to thank all the people on this Earth who want government.

    You people are honest to God geneasses.

  74. @BorisMay

    Your reply reminded me of lyrics written by Roger Waters “Did you exchange a walk-on part in the war for a lead role in a cage?”

    Murray is in a different kind of cage.

  75. Iris says:
    @BorisMay

    But either way, you know that this system has been in operation for 1000 years in the UK, and it unfailingly wins out in the end,

    That worked as long the “British Establishment” had only defenceless English, Scottish and Irish peasantry to abuse, unarmed Africans to enslave and pacific Chinese to force-feed with opium.

    Times have changed. You will find very soon that the UK has become a backwater in the coming global geopolitical order, thanks to the British establishment’s ludicrous hubris and delusion with themselves.

    • Agree: Half Back
  76. @awry

    with strong state control.

    That’s communism. You serve the collective or else.

    • Troll: gatobart
    • Replies: @Biff
    , @gatobart
  77. @BorisMay

    But people who write about this sort of thing are no more friends of the truth than the Establishment they purport to expose.”

    Would it be fair to assume you haven’t spent any time behind bars…?

  78. some_loon says:
    @Verymuchalive

    No, he’s not Scots.

    So, you are not arguing that no true scotsman could have committed Murray’s crime (which you say is actual contempt of court, and Cook claims to be lèse-majesté), only that it was not committed by a true scotsman this time.

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
  79. Art says:

    As women, do Judge Vanessa Baraitser and Lady Dorrian understand the value of truth to society? Can a woman appreciate the value of truth like a man can?

    As boys – males fight over the truth. Establishing the truth is an inherent value to them. Physical school yard fights, over right and fairness are part of growing up. As they matriculate, the physical fights give way to intellectual rules that determine truth. These fairness rules bring a measure of peace to culture (English Common Law).

    Hmm — what about Judge Vanessa Baraitser and Lady Dorrian – it seems that these women favor the force of government authority over society. They are rejecting the intellectual social solution of free speech. They are turning civilization backwards. Do they have the experience and mindset necessary to lead a free culture?

    Western men fought and died to establish a rules-based society. It appears that these women prefer government power over the hard fought for free minded rules-based culture. They just do not get the value of truth.

  80. some_loon says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    There is no such thing as a licensed journalist in the US. And I don’t think they exist in the UK.

    There is not legal process by which one is designated a journalist.

    Cook alleges, I think more than just plausibly, that Dorrian’s ruling is an attempt to set up or justify licensing or credentialing, perhaps informally.

    Certainly, her ruling distinguishes between Murray and employees of large media companies, so far as criminal culpability goes.

    And in the UK, what is there to stop Parliament from setting up such licensure or approval? Other countries certainly have.

    Even in the US, recognition of a blogger as having the same protections as, say, a reporter for CBS, is fairly recent, though not unprecendented.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsidian_Finance_Group,_LLC_v._Cox describes an important case decided in 2014, which was not so very long ago.

  81. @Iris

    According to a very prominent Zionist press pundit in France, called Frederic Haziza, people refusing to submit to mandatory vaccination are akin to anti-Semites.

    We be Anti-Jabbites.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  82. Biff says:
    @Sick of Orcs

    Phony propaganda videos are all the rage these days. Especially ridiculous ones of the likes you posted. Dig up some hilarious beheadings while you’re at it.

    • Agree: gatobart
    • Troll: Sick of Orcs
  83. @Iris

    Perhaps you would care to give substance to your grandiloquent

    “You will find very soon that the UK has become a backwater in the coming global geopolitical order, thanks to the British establishment’s ludicrous hubris and delusion with themselves”.

    Try explaining how grand the UK’s position, not a backwater, could be if only the hubris and delusion had been lacking.

    • Troll: Iris
    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
  84. anon[161] • Disclaimer says:
    @BorisMay

    Collateral Murder was enough.

    As for Perfidious Albion, too bad.

  85. @Jack McArthur

    As to three of your points:

    1) Here in the US, the charged are given the right to confront their accusers (in theory). So anonymity of accusers is (theoretically) not permitted. This right is dieing the death, as anonymous accusations from anonymous accusers can be very convenient when somebody has been selected to be ruined, and comprehensively ruined.

    5) Here in the US, the charged are entitled to trial by a jury of their peers. Conviction must be by unanimous consent by the jury, and it is not unheard of that juries, having gotten a pretty good idea that an injustice is being done through corruption, either of the prosecutorial process, or through a corrupt law, can practice what is known as “jury nullification” in which they find for the defendant due to their perception of systemic unfairness. The Powers That Be don’t like this; nullification is a last line of defense for the citizenry. Elimination of the right to a jury trial is tyranny, plain and simple. Citizen apathy is a danger; if they shirk jury duty they surrender to potential corruption without a fight.

    7) Good luck with a complicit, corrupted press, and no alternative.

  86. @some_loon

    It’s taken #80 before someone brought up the No True Scotsman Fallacy. Better late than never, I suppose.

    Maybe I should be more explicit. Murray was brought up in England and spent all his adult life there and elsewhere until, less than 10 years ago, he moved to Scotland with young Uzbekh wife and child. He decides he is Scots and starts taking an interest in SNP politics.
    Hopefully, he will soon decide he isn’t Scots, move elsewhere and pester some other people instead.

    • Replies: @some_loon
  87. Jiminy says:

    Assange. Assange who? He’s basically been made into a non person similarly to what would happen in a commo country. Good old mother England. Maybe the only answer to all of this is to accidentally leave your laptop or journals at the bus stop, and hope that nobody finds them and downloads everything to the web. Nothing will really change until the government starts going for every other journalist, maybe then they will start to collectively resist. Until then resistance is futile.

  88. some_loon says:
    @J1234

    After reading through a considerable portion of this article, I still couldn’t tell exactlywhat the basic elements of this case/event/incident were…just that someone I’d never heard of was arrested and there was a lot of pretext involved.

    Ok, I can see this. Maybe I went a little too hard here.

    But, it does seem that Cook’s basic allegations are clear, even if he does not describe all the things in the case.

    I suspect that there is enough in just this case for a book-length treatment of it.

    If Dorrian’s ruling proves to set the law of journalism off in a new direction, there will be books written on just what is touched on in this article alone.

    Still, I apologize for the unwarranted tone of my comment.

    • Replies: @J1234
  89. @lysias

    Why not print fliers and post them all over Edinburgh, then photo them and upload them? False accusations of sexual crime are now the method du jour for getting rid of turbulent pests. That and kiddy porn possession. Anyone can be fitted up.

  90. @michael888

    It’s the same in the Meng kidnapping case in Canada. Her lawyers have provided iron-clad evidence that HSBC LIED about her Power Point presentation (probably as part of a more or less secret deal with the US Justice Department yeshiva, after being caught for one of its numerous corporate crimes). Did the ‘judge’ dismiss the case? No, of course not. It refused to countenance the evidence. Similarly with Assange and the legal challenges to the ludicrously open theft of the US Presidential election. Polities where everything, more or less, is a lie don’t have happy futures.

  91. @Priss Factor

    EVERYTHING, even being a Jew, can be construed as ‘antisemitism’.

  92. @Verymuchalive

    Thank you for your very interesting & informative reply.

  93. some_loon says:
    @Verymuchalive

    You were explicit enough. I was just making a poor joke at your, and Murray’s, expense. Sorry.

    Note I didn’t accuse you of committing the fallacy, as you didn’t say that N. T. S. couldn’t have done this. Just that you say he is no Scot. Being American, I am not really in a position to judge that particular matter.

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
  94. @Wizard of Oz

    Your point has gone completely over Iris’ head. This is not very surprising, given her incorrect use of preposition. Delusion regarding or concerning themselves would be acceptable, but not “delusion with themselves”.

    Of course, they haven’t taught English grammar and syntax in schools for a very long time. I suspect that most people under 50 do not know what syntax means. I learnt more about grammar and syntax by studying Latin and Greek than by studying English. Given your penchant for Latin quotes, I suspect you did as well. One of the benefits of a classical education, old boy.

    Murray does tend to bring out the loons, and there’s quite a few here, as you no doubt have noticed. It is a contempt of court case, not a freedom of speech case. Scotland has always had much more restrictive contempt of court laws than any other Common Law jurisdiction. Murray was warned off, but continued regardless. That was always the aim, I think. Get fined or jailed, claim martyrdom and use it as publicity for the next book.

    I did say elsewhere that he would be released in 2 months, having spent most of the time in the prison hospital. I think I’ll reduce it to 6 weeks. If he is still in gaol in mid-September, get back to me.( There will probably be another UR article if he is still in gaol by that time. )

    No bets, please. I once bet Anatoly Karlin that Russia would make it to the 2018 World Cup semi-finals. I lost ( they only got to the quarter-finals ) and had to pay the b***er £70 !

    • Agree: Whataboutery2020
    • Replies: @Jack McArthur
    , @Iris
  95. @Iris

    Britain is ‘a bi*ch asking for a beating’ with its South China Sea warship challenge, Beijing warns

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9843955/Britain-bi-ch-asking-beating-South-China-Sea-warship-challenge-Beijing-warns.html

    • Thanks: Iris
  96. @Verymuchalive

    Presumably you will have no objections being judged by the same standards you have applied to Murray?

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
  97. Iris says:
    @Verymuchalive

    I really don’t mind your criticising my English since English is only my third language.

    But the main reason why I don’t mind your comment is because I see you pairing with a notorious Israeli troll, in a usual and well-worn gameplay often practiced on this website.

    You pretend to attack my comments on the British establishment, but what really riled you both is my other comment on Israel and the Zionist control over Western societies.

    You are transparent, your little games are transparent, and for that, most long-term UR commenters won’t even bother replying to you. Have a lovely day.

    • LOL: Verymuchalive
  98. J1234 says:
    @some_loon

    No need to apologize. I just wanted to clarify my intention. My statement should’ve been clearer.

    Censorship of free and legitimate speech should be a major concern to all of us. I’ve been reading more about this case and it’s troubling, so thanks to Jonathan Cook for piquing my interest.

  99. @some_loon

    I wasn’t taking offence at all. I just thought someone would have made the joke sooner.

    As an American, I’m sure you know or have heard of first- or second -generation Americans who suddenly decide to go to live in the land of their parents’ birth, believing that they are not American, but are actually Greek, Portuguese or whatever. How does that work out ? Usually not, as they quickly realise they are really Americans after all. In some cases, it does work, though.

    Murray was a guy in his 50s. His only real connection to Scotland is that his father was Scots. He suddenly decides he is Scots after all and moves to Scotland with his family. From his writings, he has little understanding of Scotland or its people. I think that once he realises that his beloved Wee Eck ( Salmond) is not returning as SNP leader, he will move elsewhere.

  100. @Jack McArthur

    I am not applying any standards to Murray, merely pointing out that contempt of court laws are strictly enforced in Scotland. In Scotland, as well as elsewhere in Britain, people continue to be jailed for this offence. Murray would surely be aware of this.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  101. some_loon says:
    @Verymuchalive

    As an American, I’m sure you know or have heard of first- or second -generation Americans who suddenly decide to go to live in the land of their parents’ birth…. How does that work out ?

    Varies.

    Asians, Pacific Islanders, Latinos and Africans keep close ties to the old country. The Ethiopian kid speaks Amharic as well as English and travels between the worlds. Not seamlessly, but he is no alien in his parents homeland, never mind he was born in Seattle.

    This is even somewhat true with children of European immigrants, including those from the British Isles, as splitting time between each country isn’t uncommon, it seems.

    The real joke is the 4th generation “Irish” or “Italian” that visits the old country and isn’t accepted as anything other than American.

    It gets funnier where the few New York ‘Italians’ who learned the language of their grandparents from their parents visit Italy and find they are not understood. Turns out they learned Sicilian, which nobody in Italy under 70 speaks anymore.

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
  102. @Verymuchalive

    Even worse, Murray’s father was a crook who was on the lam for most of Murray’s childhood.

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
  103. @some_loon

    Thanks, you’ve been very informative, and given me a modern update!

    I was thinking back to the 1990s ( I am a lot older than you ! ) when a lot of European-Americans, and others ( eg Lebanese Americans) would go back to the “old country”. They could speak the language, or some variant thereof, and they could get a job. However, they weren’t accepted by the locals, or found they were Americans after all.

    A friend of mine, a Bulgarian-born nurse, went back 15 years ago. She couldn’t settle – the signs of decay and decadence are really serious now. She now lives in a rural area in the North of Scotland. As she says, she lives her life, little bothered by the intrusions of the Homoglobalist State. This is much better than hanging round Sofia or Plovdiv. I am sure many commenters would want such a rural life themselves.

    • Thanks: some_loon
  104. @Whataboutery2020

    I would be grateful if you could provide me with a reference for this, as I honestly didn’t know this.

    Cook claimed that Murray was the first person to be jailed in 50 years for contempt of court. It’s not even true for the Alex Salmond Case, as the Dundee Courier makes plain.
    https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/politics/scottish-politics/2212279/blogger-craig-murray-jailed/

    Earlier this year Clive Thomson from Rosyth was jailed for six months for publishing the names of women who gave evidence on his Twitter account.

    https://www.dunfermlinepress.com/news/19118164.rosyth-activist-jailed-outing-alex-salmonds-accusers/

    • Replies: @Whataboutery2020
  105. @Verymuchalive

    https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2021/03/what-can-we-learn-from-the-terrible-fate-of-sarah-everard/

    “This may surprise you. When I was about six years old, a fairly senior policeman who was acting as a courier for my father, was caught when a bag of illegal money burst. This had quite profound ramifications for me, not least that my father fled the country and I did not see him again for the rest of my childhood. The Rolls Royce and the Mercedes disappeared (I learnt from an uncle only recently that my father’s share of the black money alone in 1965 had been over £1,500 per day, £25,000 a day in today’s money). After my father left, the rest of my childhood was spent in rural but very real poverty. It also meant I had the great fortune to be largely brought up by my maternal grandfather, a profoundly wise and intellectual old socialist. I often wonder what Craig Murray would have been like if that bag had not burst, and I had instead been brought up as the stinking rich heir to a very dodgy gambling empire. Possibly I would have become not a very nice person.”

    • Thanks: Verymuchalive
  106. gatobart says:
    @Sick of Orcs

    Anyone these days could shot a phony video for propaganda purposes. They don’t need much, a room aptly decorated, a few props, maybe one or two (North Korean, Chinese, Iranian) military/police uniforms and a few people who look like they should for the intended message. I wonder sometimes, when for example they show me “Syrians soldiers torturing opponents of the Assad regime” how do they do it, these stupid soldiers, that right after shooting themselves torturing the victim run to post the corresponding video in the web. Yeah right, “authentic videos”…for idiots.

  107. gatobart says:
    @dogbumbreath

    I wish i could have said it so clearly and in so few words myself.

  108. @Verymuchalive

    But what if the ‘courts’ and ‘judges’ are so plainly contemptible?

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
  109. Britan is probably the most social liberal authoritarian and corrupted country in Europe with the elite working against the majority – the elite see’s it as it’s mission that the majority’s opinion must never influence policy.

    In this they are closely followed by Germany.

    On the world stage, US is probably number one after approximately a year into Trump’s worthless presidency when the propaganda about “white extremist terroism” was effectively planted in the gay-op executed by Virginias state governor and the jewish mayor in Charlottesville during the so called Unite the right meeting where the right was set up to be attacked by Antifa and the prosecutions and regal represtation for James Fields was a bad joke.

    One might argue that China and Russia is more authoritarian and corrupt, but the elite there still have a bond towards their own people and mostly do what the mojority of the pwopl wants them to do.

    I’d much rather have a leader who did approximately what I wanted and upheld the values I want to see upheld and in the interim, by corruption, get’s himself a fortune of a 100 billion dollars, than a leader who does not give the slightest bit of thought of what his/her people wants (Except that their values are evil) and meanwhile implements policies that are negtive for the majority and costs their own people much more, so that those 100 billions USD seems like nothing in comparison.

    Even worse the policies implemented by countries such as the UK and Germany are extremely harmful to the wellbeing of the population (Such as promoting extremely degenerate norms that leads to the destruction of the family, lower nativity, narcissism, hedonism and other undesirable traits which breaks down all healthy values that makes a civilization survive.

    Worst, at the same time these leaders are importing “refugees” (ie economic migrants) in mass numbers, that leads to a financial loss many, many times greater than that China or Russia looses in corruption – and it also leads to an almost infinite amount of non-economical negative externalities for the majority people such as much higher crime, lowered trust, intense alienation among the majority who feel they don’t belong in their own country anymore and on and on).

    • Replies: @gatobart
  110. gatobart says:
    @The Ghost Of Emanuel Swedenborg

    “On the world stage, US is probably number one.”

    Take out the “probably” and you hit it right on the nail. The U.S. has become the living proof of the utter decomposition of a Capitalist system brought to an extreme, as described by Karl Marx. When everything and everyone in society becomes a merchandise and it has a monetary value attached to it. When everything and everybody has a price, everything and everybody is to be sold and bought. Every public post to be sold at a price, from dogcatcher in TheSticks, Nebraska to Member of Congress (from \$200M to \$400M) to President of the U.S.A. (1 billion \$US) They could as well put a set of coded bars on everything and that would be the most honest way to explain the country to the rest of the world.

    BTW, Corruption has always been part or governance because of simple human nature and it has existed in all latitudes for all of History, so we may as well get used to see it to some extent in our own countries, as corruption by itself has never prevented society as a whole from improving and prospering and offering a better life to its members. The problem arises when those in power forget that the ultimate purpose of it all should be precisely the one just mentioned and start working exclusively for their own enrichment at the cost of the well-being of the rest of society. In the last decades we have seen that kind of behavior by the ruling elite happening only in two cases: assorted bloody dictatorships (Somoza, Marcos, Shah, etc) usually backed and sponsored, and even installed, by Washington and then, the U.S. itself. Six trillion UDS taken from taxpayers’ pockets to feed the ruling elite’s coffers using Afghanistan Iraq, Syria and Iran as an excuse speak louder than words.

  111. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    As I wrote previously, I am no admirer of Alex Salmond, although I believe in this instance that these women conspired with the SNP hierarchy to set him up.
    The law of contempt in Scotland has been settled for a long time. The only way that things might change is if these women were charged and convicted of perjury in a criminal court. However, prosecution for perjury is rare in nearly all jurisdictions, given that it is usually very hard to prove. So any prosecution in this case seems extremely unlikely.

    You could claim that the law should be amended to permit the naming of accusers in sex cases where the defendant has been acquitted on all charges. However, rape and serious sexual assault are regarded as seriously underreported. The fear of public exposure if they lost the case might make complainants even less willing to come forward than they are now. It is reasonable to think that this would be against the public interest, so it is better that the present system remains. Also, the law change would have to be retrospective to affect the Salmond case, which is rarely a good thing.

    Finally, Alex Salmond does not support what these cybernats – Murray, Clive Thomson, Somerset Stu Campbell and all – are doing. He is well aware of the wider legal and public interests issues involved. But these people don’t care – it’s just another self-indulgent game for them.
    These people are not genuine nationalists anyway. They believe in something called ” Independence in Europe” – a Scotland shackled to the EU and globalism. They’re completely fake. There are no genuine nationalists left in the SNP, because if you don’t conform to the dogma, you are purged or forced to resign, myself included.
    Do not feel sorry for Salmond or Murray. Salmond devised the Independence in Europe dogma, which Murray mindlessly follows.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  112. Iris says:

    Journalist Neil Clark’s opinion on Craig Murray’s imprisonment:

    Craig Murray is the first person to be imprisoned in Scotland for media contempt for over 70 years. He is the first person to be imprisoned on the charge of ‘jigsaw identification’ in the UK – and, his team claim, in the world.

    His lawyers have also pointed out that these breaches, if held to have taken place, usually result in a sizeable fine or a suspended sentence. No one apart from Murray was charged with contempt in connection with the Salmond case, even though 81% of people in a poll who believe they had learned the identities, gave the mainstream media – and not Murray’s blog – as their source.

    Perhaps the most chilling part of the judgement was the assertion that Murray had to be treated differently because he was a ‘journalist in new media’ as opposed to working in the regulated ‘mainstream’. This puts indie journos at a special risk which their mainstream counterparts would not be subject to.

    https://www.rt.com/op-ed/531013-craig-murray-contempt-court-alex-salmond/

  113. @Iris

    It’s just bullshit.
    He was found guilty because he did it. In my opinion he did it on purpose expressly so he would be found guilty.
    They guy is full shit, he really isn’t worth the effort.

    • Agree: Verymuchalive
  114. @Iris

    Cook claimed that Murray was the first person to be jailed in 50 years for contempt of court. It’s not even true for the Alex Salmond Case, as the Dundee Courier makes plain.
    https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/politics/scottish-politics/2212279/blogger-craig-murray-jailed/

    Earlier this year Clive Thomson from Rosyth was jailed for six months for publishing the names of women who gave evidence on his Twitter account.

    https://www.dunfermlinepress.com/news/19118164.rosyth-activist-jailed-outing-alex-salmonds-accusers/

    Neil Clark is even more ignorant than Cook, so no surprise there.

    • Replies: @Iris
  115. Iris says:
    @Verymuchalive

    The Hasbara brigade talking to each other, splitting hair on minor technicalities and going full deflection mode; your handbook is so predictable.

    I am waiting for the Wazzock of Oz to “Agree” with your “luminous” comment next.

    Your problem, the thorn in your disgusting buttocks, the reason why you are monitoring this discussion, is because Craig Murray was one of the most noticeable truth-tellers about the War on Iraq, an illegal and criminal enterprise in which instigation Israel played a prominent role.

    • LOL: Verymuchalive
  116. @Iris

    Cook lives in Nazareth, Israel. Like you, he knows Scottish Football Association about Scotland and its inmates.

  117. @Iris

    Judicial stand-over thugs (aka ‘judges’) in the UK are agents of the ruling elite. The ‘Rule of Law’ is the Rule of Power is the Rule of Money. And a number of these legal lynchers are making no secret of their vicious biases, as we have seen more than once in the Assange case.

    • Replies: @Iris
  118. @Verymuchalive

    Yes, it is a difficult balance. However more and more often false accusations of sexual misconduct are being used as political weapons, eg Assange and Salmond. The problem in the Murray case is that, in my opinion, the legal system and the judicial enforcer have plainly targeted Murray for crimes against the ruling elite ie reporting torture, reporting on Assange’s legal lynching and reporting on the failed legal lynching of Salmond. Gangster tactics by a dying elite, seen also in the false accusations of ‘antisemitism’ leveled at Corbyn.

  119. Iris says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Judicial stand-over thugs (aka ‘judges’) in the UK are agents of the ruling elite. The ‘Rule of Law’ is the Rule of Power is the Rule of Money.

    ..and over everything else the Rule of the Anglo-Israeli imperial agenda.

    If the UK judges were anything else but the stooges you described, they would not have, to the day, endorsed and covered up the public and illegal execution of weapons inspector Dr David Kelly, murdered in broad daylight in sweet and green England.

  120. @Iris

    Hasbara

    You often see accusations of “Hasbara” operatives in online comments.
    I’ve never taken them very seriously but it’s amusing to see them pop up about a subject I’m reasonably familiar with and it’s embarrassing to see how commenters, who have absolutely no idea whatsoever about the political situation in Scotland, accusing people who have local knowledge of being paid Israeli operatives.

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
  121. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Thirteen charges brought against Salmond but not one stuck in a jury trial. One of the oldest stories in the world from Ancient Egypt (The Tale of the Two Brothers) describes false sexual accusations (very bad divine ending for the accuser) and more than one scholar points out this later turns up in the biblical story of Joseph.

    One of the text messages of the conspirators describes how they can accuse Salmond whilst remaining anonymous.

    If anonymity is given to accuser it must be given to the accused until found guilty.

    From what I remember the charges of contempt against Murray came after he dared to question the integrity of the Jewish Lord Advocate who presided over this shambles and not at the relevant time, i.e a corrupt Crown Office went after Murray because not only had he dared to report what the bought and paid for MSM failed to do but he had then pointed the finger at the source of corruption. Jews are not especially noted for mercy but for vengeance.

    Salmond would be jail but for a jury of his peers.

    • Replies: @Jack McArthur
  122. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    I’ve spelt it it out plainly to you. Murray ran foul of strict Scots Contempt of Court Laws, which have been around for hundreds of years. Occam’s razor, no other explanation needed. Salmond is a largely responsible for the present EU globalist SNP party. Murray is a loyal supporter of Salmond.
    Just because these people have been prosecuted under an SNP government does not mean they are your friends. As an genuine nationalist, they’re certainly not my friends.

    If you believe in an independent, multipolar, non-globalist world, these people are your enemies. Unmumble your brain and start thinking rationally.

  123. @Whataboutery

    I totally agree. Zionist control ( Neocon/Neolib, AIPAC etc ) of US Defence/ Foreign policy etc is very obvious. It’s not a conspiracy, it’s in plain sight. The problem with loons like Iris and Jack McArthur is they see Jewish/Zionist conspiracies everywhere. Even the Turkish policy re Armenia is part of it !

    The first problem is that this is wrong. The second is that it detracts from the very real Jewish involvement in undermining and subverting White nations. This problem must be examined in an honest and sober way, not by unhinged idiots like the above mentioned. I would recommend that they read anything by Prof Kevin MacDonald, but I doubt they have heard of him.

  124. @Jack McArthur

    I should have added that the Lord Advocate has been involved in another malicious prosecution which is going to cost the tax payer many millions.

    Now the Crown Office has admitted that the prosecution of Whitehouse and Clark was malicious. They want £20.5 million in total damages plus expenses. They will have to prove to the courts that the damage to their reputation by the malicious prosecution amounted to that total and unless there is mediation – all sides seemed agreeable to that in court yesterday – the issue will go to a proof, a full hearing with witnesses, in January…

    The implications for the Scottish justice system are staggering. Apart from the costs, the original decision to prosecute was taken by the then-Lord Advocate Frank Mulholland, who is now the judge Lord Mulholland, while the court heard that the current Lord Advocate continued to fight the case despite evidence that the prosecution was wrongful. As Scotland’s senior law officer and an ex-officio member of the Scottish Government, the Lord Advocate’s position will undoubtedly come under scrutiny in this case.

    https://www.thenational.scot/news/18678401.crown-office-prosecuted-rangers-fc-figures---admitted-malice/

    • Thanks: Iris
  125. What’s unfortunate is that people like Craig Murray stay in Britain and still believe that they can get justice in the British system. There’s no such thing any more. If they’re out to get you, they’ll find a way. He should’ve left Britain and gone to a country that has no extradition treaty where he can safely be a thorn in the side of the British and Scottish governments by exposing them online. For his trust in a totally corrupt system, he’s going to be put out of commission for a long time.

    • Replies: @Whataboutery
  126. @Joe Paluka

    He tried to FO to Spain, probably for that very reason, but was not allowed.

    • Agree: Verymuchalive
  127. Jewcifer says:
    @The Alarmist

    That perspective is naive and blind of what has transpired over at least the last century. It basically comes down to the fact that Jews have overrun and conquered the USA after they ruined Europe, with the crescendo of course being WWII.

    The Chinese have pillaged and plundered their way to “success”, largely facilitated through the corruption by Jews in various ways; be it direct technology transfers, blocking decisive actions against the Chinese, or just the total mental corruption of the “Christians” that are nothing more than jewish slaves, whose whole frame of reference is oriented around their Jewish master race matters.

  128. Malla says:

    Alex “fish face” Salmon is a fishy Globalist scumbag who is more interested in breaking up the United Kingdoms of Great Britain and Northern Ireland than he gives a care about Scotland. He would drown Scotland in non-White, genocidal Whitey hating, foreign population infiltration and race replacement. There would be no Scotland without the genetic Scots.

    Look at Sinn Fein and the IRA, supposedly Irish Nationalists, who do nothing against race replacement and cultural destruction in Ireland.

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