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From the NYT op-ed page:

Are Vets and Pharmacists Showing How to Make Careers Work for Moms?
June 9, 2021

By Nicholas Kristof

Opinion Columnist

Veterinarians and pharmacists may be able to help us with more than our pets and our pills. Perhaps they can also guide America to a society that works better for America’s moms.

Women today outnumber men in colleges, in law schools and in medical schools. Yet while women seem better credentialed than men, their careers and incomes have stagnated.

Full-time female workers overall get 82 cents for each dollar made by men, and it’s much worse for those who are well educated. The median pay for female college graduates working full time is only 72 cents for every dollar earned by male equivalents, and the figure has barely budged for 30 years.

Women have constituted half of new accountants since the 1980s, but they still make up only 16 percent of equity partners in large accounting firms. Fifteen years after graduating from the University of Michigan Law School, 35 percent of men have made partner but only 18 percent of women.

“Women continue to feel shortchanged,” notes Claudia Goldin, a Harvard economics professor, in a forthcoming book called “Career and Family: Women’s Century-Long Journey Toward Equity,” from which most of the figures here are drawn. “They fall behind in their careers while earning less than their husbands and male colleagues.”

We often assume the fundamental cause of this inequity is old-fashioned discrimination, in the form of chauvinists who pay women less for the same work. It would be simpler if that were true — but Goldin cites evidence that while pay discrimination persists, it is not the central problem.

Early in careers, women earn almost as much as men, and those who don’t have children continue to (mostly) hold their own in the earnings race.

Nor is the gap the result primarily of women choosing lower-paid professions, as some claim. That may explain one-third of earnings gaps, not more.

The big challenge is that for most women, about 10 years into a career, babies make it much more complicated in jobs indifferent to parenting — and that suggests a larger, structural barrier to women’s career advancement.

“It’s systemic,” Goldin told me.

Babies are the cause of systemic sexism.

“We have to go back to the drawing board and think harder.”

We have to go back to the drawing board about this whole baby thing.

She argues that without addressing parenting, the solutions bandied about are “the economic equivalent of tossing a box of Band-Aids to someone with bubonic plague.”

Babies are like bubonic plague.

When a child is sick, one parent — it’s usually the mom — has to extricate from work and rush to the pediatrician. In theory, father and mother could trade off these responsibilities, but then neither would make partner. So in practice the man is often the designated career maximizer, while the woman sacrifices career advancement for the sake of family.

“Both are deprived,” Goldin writes. “Men forgo time with family; women forgo career.”

For an economist, Goldin seems oddly unfamiliar with the opening of Adam Smith’s The Wealth of Nations about the advantages of division of labor at the pin factory.

This made me think of my own family. My wife, Sheryl WuDunn, and I believe deeply in gender equity — we wrote a book about it — and yet, looking back, I see this was true of us. I was typically the one who flew off to cover coups, leaving Sheryl (who has more graduate degrees than I do) to deal with the kids’ birthday planning or the bat in the bedroom.

But there is hope, and that takes us to veterinarians.

It used to be that vets, like top lawyers, financiers and management consultants, often worked long and irregular hours. Dogs triumphed; vet families suffered. But 77 percent of new vets are female, and they have nurtured a system of group and emergency practices that is more family friendly: If Rover gets sick at night you take him to a 24-hour emergency clinic. …

Could finance or consulting be structured more like this? If a C.E.O. is willing to trust his sick child to an on-call pediatrician, then why not let an on-call C.P.A. handle a weekend accounting question?

We need lazier CEOs.

In real life, I’ve known some couples who were rather happy with dad focusing on building the family business and mom focusing on the kids. I realize that’s a trope, but sometimes people find that there are reasons to behave in gender stereotypical fashion.

 
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  1. “It’s systemic,” Goldin told me.

    She’s right, you know. We have different reproductive systems.

    (I’m glad to see you write some on the stupidity of feminism. I haven’t seen you delve into it very much.)

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • LOL: Paperback Writer
  2. OT: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/morocco-e2-80-98weaponized-e2-80-99-migration-to-punish-spain-that-e2-80-99s-more-common-than-you-think/ar-AAKABx5

    Amazingly this is from a WaPo writer:

    Morocco ‘weaponized’ migration to punish Spain. That’s more common than you think.

    On May 17, more than 6,000 people swam, floated or scaled a pair of 32-foot-high border fences to cross from Morocco into neighboring Ceuta, an eight-square-mile Spanish-owned city on Africa’s northern coast. Critically for those seeking to enter, Ceuta is inside European Union territory. According to Spanish authorities, it was the largest single-day influx of unregulated migrants in the country’s history. At least 2,000 more followed the next day.

    This wasn’t an accident. Apparently, Morocco engineered this mass cross-border movement to punish and coerce Spain. Video footage appeared to show Moroccan border guards opening fences to the Spanish enclave and allowing people through.

    Nor was this unusual. Strategically engineered migration is far more common than most people realize. At any given time, somewhere in the world, leaders inside or outside governments are likely manipulating migrants and/or refugees to pursue political, military or economic objectives.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Elli

    Here are a couple of old posts of mine about Professor Kelly Greenhill's work:

    https://www.unz.com/?s=greenhill&Action=Search&authors=steve-sailer&ptype=isteve

    , @Fluesterwitz
    @Elli

    A current application of the 'human wave' tactic.

    , @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Elli

    They're just now finding this out? All these migrations are Global South governments cynically spiriting surplus poor north to go be someone else's problem. For example, if blacks were inclined to migrate to Canada, I'd be handing out bus tickets and meals-to-go.

    , @Nicholas Stix
    @Elli

    The proper term is "Act 0f War."

    , @Getaclue
    @Elli

    But who is really behind all of it? Here let these folks tell you what is up!:


    https://www.bitchute.com/video/us3BImSU2vnN/

  3. Industries finding ways for work norms to be a little less soul-destroying is a good thing. Feminisation of society has good and bad effects – this kind of stuff is one of the good

    Hyperproductive CEOs getting milked for every ounce of value they provide for the remuneration they get is great for society – but work hours / output for the vast majority are subject to much different value propositions.

    • Agree: Dutch Boy
    • Replies: @Dutch Boy
    @angmoh

    If we are going to have a system that require two incomes for family formation, it is a good idea to make that system as family-friendly for women who want babies as possible.

    , @Jmaie
    @angmoh


    Hyperproductive CEOs getting milked for every ounce of value they provide...
     
    Going out on a limb here and guessing you've never worked with or at the higher echelons of a large corporate entity? People who end up CEO are there because they like the lifestyle.

    Whether even the most hyperproductive CEO is worth what they're paid is another discussion.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/business/corporations/ceos-public-u-s-firms-earn-320-times-much-workers-n1263195

    Replies: @angmoh

    , @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @angmoh

    "Hyperproductive CEOs getting milked for every ounce of value they provide for the remuneration they get is great for society "

    Maybe, maybe not.

  4. I think females were made to produce (with help) and nurture progeny – the rest, such as careers etc., are superfluous.

  5. • Replies: @Altai
    @Desiderius

    I'm not sure. CRT seems to just be anti-white animus + post-modernist gibberish. It seems to have first emerged in the 60s when the first 'African American Studies' departments were established. And Dr. Francis Cress Welsing first put into words what looks like the proto-form of CRT at Howard.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdUR3DnbEw0

    Remember, academic credentialism means PhDs have to come from somewhere and so just a few academics can spawn the whole basis of a field. Given that many professions are now either students or students of students of Cress, you can see how things got here.

    To this day the Howard 'Africana' department is taught by one of Cress' students and goes on an annual trip (Except 2020 and maybe 2021 obviously) to Egypt where they are taught the 'true' history of 'Kemet'. They even perform some weird ancestor worship rituals.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxF48mRwnrY

    Howard is where Nick Cannon was taught all this weird Afrocentrist stuff.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @James J O'Meara, @El Dato

  6. It is easy for a smart and ambitious woman to combine her career with kids. She only need do exactly what men with the same desires do, and find a spouse who is less ambitious than her, and support them financially, in return for them looking after the house.

    That means sacrificing a big part of your pay cheque, and a lot of the concomitant consumerism; but there’s no lack of men who will agree.

    Or, if they’re exceptionally bright and ambitious, they could run their husband’s concern, from home, using him like a puppet. Women have done this for millenia.

    What they can’t do, is not really work and yet earn as much as someone who does. I would love that, but I would always love to have my cake and eat it.

    • Replies: @Hangnail Hans
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Of the many women I've known who graduated from prestigious law schools, only two are practicing law, and one of them just barely.

    Although law can be very lucrative, it's not always fun and easy.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @ThreeCranes

    , @Travis
    @Triteleia Laxa

    good point. But most women would rather stay single than marry a less educated man with little ambition. Another issue is that women change. My wife was more interested in her career than having kids when she was 27 but at 32 she wanted kids and a less demanding career. So even if a career women finds a good mate wiling to support her and do more of the child care, once the baby arrives they typically want to be home with the kids at the expense of their career.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    , @Dissident
    @Triteleia Laxa


    It is easy for a smart and ambitious woman to combine her career with kids.
     
    Easy? Managable, perhaps. But easy? To paraphrase our esteemed President, Come on, woman!

    (Pardon the blatant gendering, but I believe you have identified yourself as female.)

    A woman expecting to be able to raise a family while at the same time pursuing a full-time career, without at least one of the two being any the worse for it?


    have my cake and eat it
     
    Exactly.
    ~ ~ ~
    From, The Telegraph, July 2015:
    We must stop indoctrinating boys in feminist ideology

    Feminist organisations, backed by government policy, are teaching young boys at school to feel guilty and ashamed of their gender, writes Dan Bell
     
    Would we see a piece like that in the Telegraph today? The article highlighted by the recent post Columnist Canceled for Suggesting Princess Markle Name Her New Baby "Georgina Floydina", along with a number of comments in the thread, suggest not.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/hr_photography02/12486704174/
    (Note how the URL for the above image does not end in a photo format file extension. Flickr is formatted so that it works here that way.)

    , @Anonymous Jew
    @Triteleia Laxa

    I know two female doctors married to liberal arts cubicle drones. Many years ago I briefly worked for a corporate lawyer married to a cook. All these people are White (non-Jewish) btw. I’m not sure about the psychology - particularly from the female perspective, but it more or less seems to work.

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @Triteleia Laxa

    "she only need do exactly what men with the same desires do, and find a spouse who is less ambitious than her, and support them financially, in return for them looking after the house"

    But a lot of women won't want to do that. Most women want a man who earns more than they do* - and most men who have kids want to support their family if they possibly can.

    Given (in the UK at least) both med school and vet school are about two thirds female, this is a potential problem. All the vets and doctors I know who are mothers work part time, at least while the children are small - some leave medicine altogether if the husband earns enough. By contrast, all the male doctors work full time right up to retirement, as do the childless lady doctors.

    The War On Biology continues.

    I do tend to think that this constant harping about equal pay (even after legislation ensuring you can't have different pay levels for the same job) is just another front in the War On White Fertility.

    * ok, if you're JK Rowling you may have to compromise

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Crx

  7. No one believes in the mythical “gender pay gap” anymore, not even the most devout shitlibs. And in any event, I am reliably informed that male and female are just arbitrary labels; can’t these women just choose to identify as men and reap the benefits of those 28 cents?

    No prizes for guessing whether or not the whamen being interviewed is childless, unmarried or married to a sad omega, and rates about a 2 to 4.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Michael S

    No one believes in the mythical “gender pay gap” anymore, not even the most devout shitlibs

    --this is Nicholas Kristof (b. 1959) we're talking about. He believes in all manner of dotard tropes. You could say it's his brand, pace humblebrag about how he once "flew off to cover coups."

    Rarely is the cost of graybeard and aspiring-graybeard out-of-touchness accounted, perhaps for being an expected phase of civilization, but we long ago passed into the terminal phase of pundit dumbness.

    Been particularly acute the past 5 years.

    , @Desiderius
    @Michael S

    Nick does. He’s got a big religion-sized hole that he keeps trying to fill with whatever the latest party line is.

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @Michael S

    Gender pay gap? Hmmmmm....

    Look ..... you're miserable ...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09qT37paSZQ

    And then, some supposedly rational stuff (from one side)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMcjxSThD54

    I prefer fiery fairy troll

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_vDke_nQvU

    Of course, the following is reasonable, but I prefer fun (no.1 & no. 3)...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcDrE5YvqTs

    , @peterike
    @Michael S


    No one believes in the mythical “gender pay gap” anymore, not even the most devout shitlibs.

     

    What? Are you kidding? I'd say probably 70% of Americans believe this completely, and 99% of Liberals.
  8. lol, vets have top 10 depression/ suicide rates, definitely model that

    • Agree: Old Prude
    • Replies: @guest007
    @Lycurgus

    An article on the subject. At least your physician is not responsible to euthanatize you when you have a terminal disease or your family can no longer afford to care for you.

    https://time.com/5670965/veterinarian-suicide-help/

    Replies: @BB753

    , @Old Prude
    @Lycurgus

    Veterinarians do a lot of intentional killing. Not a job I would want.

  9. I’ll solve the problem.

    -Offer more flex-time for employees, especially women with children.
    -More online work options (especially meetings), even if for just for a fraction of the workweek.
    -More part-time work options, including high-paying White-collar jobs.
    -Parent-Teacher conferences online or on the weekend.
    -Daycare centers that are located inside the work facility.
    -Medical&dental facilities located inside the work facility, to see the doctor&dentist at work.
    -Make it easier to see the doctor and dentist during the weekend.
    -More online options for kids when they’re sick.
    -Giving kids supplements at school (Zinc, Vit C, Vit D) to minimize sick days.
    -More ready-made, cheap, easy meal options from the grocery store. Grab&go.
    -Expand school lunch to all kids (even wealthy). Also, offer healthier&better tasting options.
    -Expand school breakfast.
    -School-organized carpools (or just more buses) to get kids home. Saves mom a trip.
    -Re-integrate middle-aged moms who’ve been out of the workforce for years.
    -Provide time off for moms who have to leave the workforce to be caregivers.
    -Longer school days and more summer school options.
    -Getting kids to complete their homework in school (with teacher assistance), which would be really helpful to parents.
    -If kids stay late enough, school dinners can be an option.
    -Provide a stipend to older relatives (such as grandparents) to take care of kids.
    -Schools can teach kids to become more independent at an early age and to take on more chores.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @JohnnyWalker123

    I'm sorry, but I don't like any one of these bullet points, Johnny. They either imply there will be yet more government regulation on business or that government schools will be an even bigger part of raising Americans' kids. How's THAT been working out for us? Critical Race Theory, anyone?

    Name me a single one of these points that is any way Conservative. Abolish Public Education!

    Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian, @JohnnyWalker123, @Paperback Writer

    , @Colin Wright
    @JohnnyWalker123

    'I’ll solve the problem.

    -Offer more flex-time for employees...'

    Etc, etc.

    Or...

    Don't worry about it. It's only a 'problem' if you decide it is. Life will go on if the average man advances further than the average woman. It really will.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    , @Alden
    @JohnnyWalker123

    How about parents teaching kids to become independent take care of pets do laundry cook dinner do chores at an early age?

    Your plans sound practical. Something like a medieval monastery for married couples with kids or a kibbutz

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    , @Kent Nationalist
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Sounds miserable for children, but I suppose they are a small sacrifice on the altar of Mammon

    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Perhaps 30-50% of your proposals I've been preaching for years, but nobody would listen. As for the rest, they sound good as a blueprint, but I haven't formed the opinion, yet.

    , @Bill Jones
    @JohnnyWalker123


    I’ll solve the problem.
     
    So will I.
    A two line HR Department.

    "Do what you're paid to do or you are fired."
    "I decide."
    , @Prof. Woland
    @JohnnyWalker123

    The Entrepreneur Gap is what is killing white men. If women and minorities stepped up and built companies and institutions just like white men did, then they would be the one's forced to hire outsiders such as WM rather than it always being carried around like a sack of potatoes. The reason there is so much pressure on HR departments and existing employers to hire from the bottom of the barrel is that there is no reciprocal pressure. If WAM went through what WM did, they would have a better appreciation of the difficulty. We cannot all be victims.

    Both Feminism and BLM ideologies are reflexive. They just look at what whitey has and piss and moan about they they can't have it. They are rent seeking parasites.

    One of the reason there is so much competition to get into top universities is that no new ones are being build. WAM base their entire measure of success on how many get into existing schools and none on founding new ones. There is no reason for WM to found them because they stand nothing to gain. We already did that and look at what it got us.

    , @epochehusserl
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Why even have children if you want someone else to raise them for you?

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    , @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @JohnnyWalker123

    You left out the part about the on site daycare curriculum services:

    a) Diversity is our strength.

    b) Critical Race Theory

  10. CRT emerged from Critical Legal Studies (CLS).

    And in both of those beginning writings, you can see it was all Marxist grift; most of the writings are complaints about not getting tenure, not getting good job appointments, etc.

    CRT and CLS are all about commies trying to use formalized whining to get themselves more power and money.

    • Troll: Mulga Mumblebrain
  11. Shocking indeed that the completely normal couple Claudia and Sheryl have issues with how the vast majority of biological parents seem perfectly happy to divvy up parenting responsibilities along gender lines.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Moral Stone

    Shocking indeed that the completely normal couple Claudia and Sheryl have issues with how the vast majority of biological parents seem perfectly happy to divvy up parenting responsibilities along gender lines.

    Sheryl is Kristoff's wife , not Claudia's.

    Replies: @Moral Stone

  12. There remains the point that women are just less aggressively competitive.

    Women want everyone in the room to be happy. Men want to be the winner.

    This isn’t good or bad. It’s just the way it is. Alpha males are going to tend to climb to the top of the heap.

    • Replies: @donut
    @Colin Wright

    "There remains the point that women are just less aggressively competitive."
    That's bullshit . I don't care about your studies I worked with them . 8 years at sea in the navy and 12 in the Merchant Marine only a few women on ships . Then 20 years as a nurse all women . They'll stab each other in the back just to keep in form .
    "Women want everyone in the room to be happy." LOL , another BS myth that some academic dreamed up and got published .
    In the end what you have at the top is a mix of the decent and competent mixed with the vicious and often incompetent about the same as in a male dominated organization .

    , @Spangel223
    @Colin Wright

    I think you’re right. While the assumption is that women are less likely to become executives than men because of child rearing obligations, my observation is that this is a minor factor. Looks to me like young women (interns or recent grads) seem full of career ambition in terms of their personas and about ten years into the workforce or sooner, this kind of energy is very rare in women while it matures in men. Childless or not, I see almost no women over 35 with authentic psychological investment in their career advancement, regardless of whether or not they have children and regardless of how successful they were before.

    Basically at some point in their thirties, women simply lose interest in climbing the career ladder regardless of their personal circumstances. And as opposed to the assumption that it is because of motherhood, I’ve seen exactly the opposite. From what I’ve seen in our present generation, it is mainly women with at least one child who maintain even a superficial interest in advancing their corporate careers past their thirties because these women with children have financial goals related to those children such as paying for their college education or sending them to private school. Childless women of the same age tend to become more invested in personal projects that don’t usually pay well.

    This is not the case for men. It is common for men in their thirties and older to be actively trying to network to find opportunities in high potential companies that they will have partial ownership in. It’s also common for them to pursue ideas for start ups because they hope they will be lucrative. 40 year olds women simply don’t sit there thinking about how they can co-found a company they can cash out on for millions of dollars. How many 4o year old men ponder the same? A whole darn lot.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    , @Flip
    @Colin Wright

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Inevitability_of_Patriarchy

  13. than I do) to deal with the kids’ birthday planning or the bat in the bedroom.

    What? They had bats in their bedroom? I knew that his wife was Chinese but this is weird. What were they doing, gain of function experiments?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Paperback Writer

    Hahaaa! That was brilliant, Mr. Writer.

    , @additionalMike
    @Paperback Writer

    I snicker at your snide commentary!

    (See photondancer, below.)

    , @JerseyJeffersonian
    @Paperback Writer

    Maybe I'm just an old fossil who is way behind on the trends, but when the couple in question's names are Claudia and Sheryl, I'm thinking that there might be a "husband" and a "wife" here, but that they are both female, so there is actually no "he" involved. Correct me if I am mistaken, please.

    Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian, @Paperback Writer

  14. I snickered at your snide commentary but all the same, I think he’s making a good point. There’s not really any good reason why many jobs can’t be shared more, nor should partnership be a reward for stupid criteria such as ‘he puts in long hours’. Work smarter not harder – wasn’t that the slogan when us plebs wanted more money?

    Although I do wonder how many of those 24/7 veterinarians are women, especially women with children.

    • Replies: @Yancey Ward
    @photondancer


    nor should partnership be a reward for stupid criteria such as ‘he puts in long hours’
     
    Isn't partnership usually given with regards to who actually brings in new clients, and keeps them?

    Replies: @photondancer

    , @Alden
    @photondancer

    It’s not like a busy hospital major emergency room with a veterinarian there all not. If a pet needs treatment, make a call and the on call vet meets you there. And most of the people who work in the vets office aren’t vets anyway. Nurses can’t prescribe medicine for people. But any assistant can take care of pets unless they need surgery.

    Replies: @photondancer

    , @Sollipsist
    @photondancer

    The vast majority of vets (and every other category of animal care workers) that I've worked with have been female, and the majority of them have children. Unless you have a small clinic with older vets, the question of maternity leave is not if but when.

    I've known 4 emergency overnight vets, and 2 of them have been male. Unless that's just a coincidence, my guess is that men are simply more likely to accept the tradeoffs.

    The consensus is that vets might be able to make a decent income (i.e., solidly middle class) working for someone else, but the only chance to make real money is by owning your own clinic. And clinics are far more likely to be owned and run by men than women. Plus, the only vet that I know of who served as a US senator is male. And he also runs a pretty lucrative clinic here.

    All of this makes me think that nobody is preventing female vets from doing these things; if anything, women have far more opportunity and support to rise to the top in the veterinary and allied fields. It's just clearly an example of different priorities/aptitudes/whatever.

  15. My wife, Sheryl WuDunn, and I believe deeply in gender equity — we wrote a book about it — and yet, looking back, I see this was true of us. I was typically the one who flew off to cover coups, leaving Sheryl (who has more graduate degrees than I do) to deal with the kids’ birthday planning or the bat in the bedroom.

    It’s always about the number (and quality) of degrees with these people. They never claim expertise or authority on the basis of experience or wisdom or talent.

    In hindsight, giving kids gold star stickers in primary school was a really bad idea.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @Yancey Ward
    @Barack Obama's secret Unz account

    I was wondering the same thing. What the f**k does a graduate degree have to do with a journalist covering a coup?

    Replies: @Barack Obama's secret Unz account, @James J O'Meara

    , @Mulga Mumblebrain
    @Barack Obama's secret Unz account

    Why does she not say 'my partner'? And WuDunn-what is that? Wu as her father's former property, and Dunn for whom? I really detest hyphenated surnames for supposedly 'liberated' women, even without the hyphen. They just indicate property transfer. Would the, straight, feminists expect their 'husbands'/partners to adopt similar double-barreled monikers? John Lennon did it.

    Replies: @Getaclue

  16. Doctor married to doctor couples I know solved this problem a generation ago.

    It’s easy. You hire a nice *_chinese_* (fill in the ethnic group) lady for about sixty hours per week, which covers the week days 7am to 7pm.

    Added bonus: neither spouse has to be the “wife” who picks up dry cleaning, shops for stuff, etc.

  17. Well, an English major, so poor Nic is too stupid to get the difference between functioning and non-functioning breasts. Or career oriented feminists, for that matter.

  18. Get Me Re-Write Re “Rants”!

    “While in Tokyo, her coverage of Japan in the ’90s, together with Nicholas Kristoff’s editorial policy, painted the country with mostly negative slants.”

    See source of above systemic racism below:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheryl_WuDunn

    • Replies: @TTT55
    @reactionry

    "Negative slants"? That's extremely racist.

  19. “Men forgo time with family; women forgo career”

    Sounds like a square deal.

    Obviously, this is supposed to be wrong, but I constantly forget why.

    This Goldin person talks like she’s watched women bang their heads against a wall for decades and is curious as to why they won’t use enough force to crack their skulls open.

    I dunno. Maybe women enjoy intact skulls.

  20. “Both are **deprived**,” Goldin writes. “Men forgo time with family…

    Wrong adjective

  21. It seems that feminists (or economists) look at marriages where the husband earns more than his wife as a loss for womankind. My understanding, though, is that women are very happy when their husbands earn a lot of money. Am I Wrongedy wrong wrong?

    • Agree: Craig Nelsen, Spud Boy
    • Replies: @Uncle Dan
    @Rob

    And they’re very happy to spend it.

  22. Would Reg Caesar be nonplussed if power couples were to post pictures of newly-affordable *white* wet nurses?

    Tags: wet nurses, enabled corporate rainmakers

  23. Blah blah blah blah blah. What year is this? I believe the first draft was written in 1971. And why only worry about lawyers and accountants? Why not worry about waitresses sales clerks bus drivers and other working mothers? . As for the lawyers and accountants married to other lawyers and accounts I suppose you’ve never heard of household help? Neighbors? Baby sitters? Household help agencies? They do exist. Older children and teens? Making arrangements ahead of time?

    Lawyers only need to be in their offices for depositions and meetings any more. They can file lawsuits and responses online. And , recruit? enlist? whatever new clients by email text and phone calls. And make an appointment to meet in the office on scheduled office days.

    Back when veterinarians were all men, they usually had several vets in one clinic and were open all day Saturday and till 9 in the evenings. And they had phone book ADs. That said 24 hour emergency. So a person whose dog was hit by a car at midnight called the phone number in the AD. The answering service would take the call . Dr would call back and make arrangements to meet at the clinic.
    Nowadays that’s done by looking online for vet websites a direct call to the on call that day vet and meet vet at the clinic.

    Did it myself when 5/30 AM Bear went out for a quick pee. He decided to go after the big old nasty vicious raccoon that lived under the deck. Bear came back screeching blood flowing fractured leg. Found vet site called answering person told us to head for the clinic and she’d have someone there. We loaded 90 pound whimpering Bear into car. With kid to hold soothe and cuddle him. I and vet arrived about the same time. Gave Bear to vet. Went home kid and I got dressed fixed bagel and cream cheese Went to work Husband picked Bear up on the way home. Kids had big comfy bed arranged for him. Bear loved attention and petting.

    Liberals. Some ordinary event like a sick day, sick injured dog and they approach it with shock and awe. Like they just discovered it . And the rest of us stupid proles are so stupid we don’t even know the problem exists..

    Or 2 adults or a single parent can’t take a dog to the vet and get the parents and kids to work and school the same day.

    What a despicable helpless wimp is Kristoff.

    • Agree: JerseyJeffersonian
    • Replies: @photondancer
    @Alden

    You've been on fire this week Alden! Love reading insightful comments like the way they only care about professionals like themselves, not waitresses, and act as if they had discovered mild adversity when all the rest of us have been dealing adroitly with it all our lives.

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @Alden

    Alden, excellent comment.

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @Alden

    Alden, I have to expand on my "good comment" I gave you. Sick days and personal days are abused and then when people need them they don't have them. Buffalo City school teachers average 18 days per academic year out of the classroom. That is three weeks of class plus 3 days. Paid of course. I worked twenty five years in construction, no sick days or vacation, However, on two separate big projects that last three plus years each, I got two weeks paid vacation.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    , @Desiderius
    @Alden

    He’s desperate to follow someone worthy of being followed.

    Are we leading?

    Replies: @anon

    , @J.Ross
    @Alden

    Kristoff's probably not a wimp. He simped for third world minge, that's bravery and stupidity blending together. What is important about him is that, as our universities become worthless, he has perfect credentials on paper but writes like a particularly bad AI content generator. So he's a living symbol of the effortfully worthless university education.

    , @Triteleia Laxa
    @Alden

    Feminists claim to care deeply about vulnerable women.

    I remember them writing a lot about how some female multimillionaire tv presenters had accepted less pay than their male colleagues who did a different job.

    I don't remember them mentioning the ~20,000 girls already identified as abused by Pakistani grooming gangs, even though it continues.

    When people say "I care" they are usually sincere, but they are also usually deluded. Feminists who claim to care about the suffering of women should be laughed out of the room.* Their attention is never where the suffering is and always where whatever flatters them most, by proxy.

    So what if women in Africa are second class citizens, Captain Marvel was sure a badass b*tch!

    Not that anyone should have to care, but nobody has to enable their delusions either.

    Replies: @photondancer

    , @Days of Broken Arrows
    @Alden

    It's significant you mentioned "older children and teens."

    When families used to have lots of kids, the moms got the older kids to occupy the younger ones. So you had built-in child care.

    Now that families only have one or two kids, that's not a possibility. You have to bring in the professionals.

    And once that happened, people started to look skeptically at the most natural thing: Older siblings looking after younger ones.

    But I have a lot of memories of looking after my brother, who was seven years young, and the experiences were beneficial to us both, from what I can remember. My mother would call home to check on us. We did fine.

  24. Most physicians are in varying degrees of ‘eat what you kill’ practices.

    That is, if you take out a gallbladder, you send Medicare or whatever insurer a bill, they send you a check, done. Your gender never comes up. For the most part, the way to make more money is simple: take out more gallbladders. Take more call, see more patients, etc. There is stuff around the edges you can do, sure, try to improve your payor mix, other things, but for the most part, it’s just how much you want to work. While many physicians are ostensibly ’employed physicians’, if you dig down you find that in reality they just get a flat percentage of what their employer bills out in their name. All the ’employer’ does is handle billing paperwork, credentialing, etc. See zero patients, get zero dollars.

    The implication that there are some moustache twisting villains plotting how to pay women less is absurd. They get paid less because they work less, period.

    The issue I’ve seen with a number of young female physicians is they seem to think that a medical degree is a stamp that puts you in the aristocracy. They think that just by dint of having the degree they deserve to get paid handsomely, have a good life, etc.. The happiest day of their medical career is graduation day. In reality, the degree is just a certification that allows you to do a particular type of (high paying) work. If you don’t actually do the work…you get nothing. It’s not a license to be idle rich. It’s not a marriage to Mr. Darcy. Graduation day is the beginning, not the end.

    Now to be clear I think there are actually a lot of ways in which female physicians are superior to male physicians. They are less likely to commit insurance fraud. Women have much better fine motor skills than men (notice handwriting quality in boys vs girls) so honestly I think for many types of surgeries they do a better job. Many fields that involve being naked people are more comfortable with female physicians (OB-gyn, dermatology, etc.) A lot of male physicians work themselves to exhaustion and the quality of work suffers. Disruptive physicians (a.k.a. raging assholes) are almost always males.

    On the other hand pretty much all innovation that I see tends to be driven by males (white males, in particular). In short, unlike some fields (like engineering) I don’t think the women in medicine don’t belong–they’re perfectly good physicians, and it’s good to have both. But women making less is not a problem to be solved. They work less, they make less, it’s their choice.

    I mean, who is really the dummy here, the guy who will look back on his life and say I spent most of it doing manual labor in an operating room, or the person with the balanced life that makes a little less? I think the men are getting cheated here, cheated out of life…

    • Thanks: JerseyJeffersonian, J.Ross
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @SimpleSong


    For the most part, the way to make more money is simple: take out more gallbladders.
     
    How many do we have, anyway? I thought it was just one or two.

    Thanks for the interesting comment, SS. I think male doctors have pretty good lives too, though better if it's airplanes or boats rather than ex-wives.

    Replies: @SimpleSong, @Deckin

    , @HbutnotG
    @SimpleSong

    Chicks generally lack the mechanical instinct men are more likely to have. Handwriting is a form of "parroting" that is, "imitating." Anybody can do it, boy or girl - you just have to be motivated. Elementary aged girls are just by nature "better handwriters" because they like to please the teacher to a larger degree than boys do, and since handwriting is a subjective thing to evaluate, girls make it "pretty" and teacher is pleased.

    Surgery and other doctor skills are better handled by men, although some women have a good mechanical instinct, and can perform well in these tasks.

    But women more mechanically deft? No. Watch one drive a car some time.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Alden

    , @BenKenobi
    @SimpleSong


    notice handwriting quality in boys vs girls
     
    At least until those girls go on to become doctors.

    But perhaps the handwriting quality comes down to brain type?

    “The letters are legible. It’s good enough.”

    “I want my letters to be pretty.”
    , @Richard of Melbourne
    @SimpleSong

    On the other hand pretty much all innovation that I see tends to be driven by males ...

    A point that Germaine Greer, no less, agreed with in the following terms (I quote from memory):

    "If it weren't for men we would all still be living in grass huts."

    Replies: @photondancer, @Almost Missouri, @Jmaie, @Culpeper

    , @Anon
    @SimpleSong


    Women have much better fine motor skills than men (notice handwriting quality in boys vs girls) so honestly I think for many types of surgeries they do a better job.
     
    I'm sure that there are things that women are better at then men, but two of them have recently been disproven.

    First: The idea that women read faces better is widely held. Thus, in Israel, female security people predominate at the entrance to and in scanning lines of people in airports. Women will speak to what appear to be random travellers, in order to further check on suspicions. Although there may be places in this process that women are better than men at, to the extent that researchers have been able to cut the process into tasks that can be tested, it appears to be a myth. For instance, in controlled tests involving showing photographs of faces women perform no better than men.

    Secondly: You mentioned Steven Pinker's favorite example, fine motor skills. And then you extrapolated to surgery. There is a body of research on fine motor skills. Women are better than men ... ceteris paribus. But men and women are equal when the research controls for hand and finger size. This was a funny, duh, sort of finding when it first came to light. Why didn't anyone think of controlling for hand size before? By the way, this finding is decades old, and Steven Pinker was in kindergarten at the time. I exaggerate, but for example here's a paper from 30 years ago:

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2307635/

    Pinker's sister Susan Pinker wrote a book on how the sexes differ, and that's where he got it from, I think. So this book from 2008 contained information that had already been falsified. These kind of cool, just-so-story findings never die.

    I also dispute the handwriting claim. As someone who can handwrite, and who went to elementary school when handwriting was taught, and who had a fifth grade male teacher who really emphasized it, I lived through the golden age of handwriting. And it comes down to practice: Girls just practiced more than boys. They tried out all kinds of variations. They constantly sent people cute little notes. They wrote a lot of stuff. Boys did the minimum. In junior high I managed to take drafting instead of the more boy-oriented shop classes. Do you know who had better handwriting than girls? Pre-computer male draftsmen and architects: they practiced more than schoolgirls.

    As an adult I felt that my handwriting was deteriorating, and this was a hassle when filling out forms, pre internet. So I looked around for a book to use. There really wasn't anything for adults, but I found the Better Handwriting entry in the Teach Yourself series. It had me putting in a small amount of daily practice (after determining the best type of pen and substrate for me personally). Loops, zig zags, trying to keep them consistent across the line, lines full of u's and m's. I was surprised how fast progress came. This is what girls did back in the day, daily practice, doodling words rather than race cars and rocketships.

    , @Michael S
    @SimpleSong


    The issue I’ve seen with a number of young female physicians is they seem to think that a medical degree is a stamp that puts you in the aristocracy.
     
    I'm not sure if the female physicians actually think that, but the gender studies graduates definitely do. Particularly when a job looks safe and easy when you ignore the stress and intellectual requirements - such as medicine, engineering, management, law, politics - every feminist is trained to believe that such jobs are simply prizes to be awarded to the most deserving, and have not even considered the angle that practitioners are supposed to produce something of value.

    That's why you won't hear them complaining about the lack of women in roofing, welding, logistics, trash pickup, lithium mining or sewer treatment, or that the women in those fields get paid too little. Not that those fields or any fields actually need more women, it just shows their mindset. They can understand on a visceral level that those jobs are hard, and would rather not even acknowledge that they exist.

    I mean, who is really the dummy here, the guy who will look back on his life and say I spent most of it doing manual labor in an operating room, or the person with the balanced life that makes a little less? I think the men are getting cheated here, cheated out of life…
     
    One thing you must have learned about leftism by now is that it has no limiting function. No matter how hard the white men in this society have to work to support women who aren't their wives or kin (as well as underperforming minorities), they can always work a little harder.
    , @AnotherDad
    @SimpleSong

    Terrific--terrifically sane/wise--comment, Simple Song.

    I'll pass on to my daughter who's just starting her residency.

    Work is important. And there's a lot of outside home work many women do very well--medicine being a great example. But work isn't the sum total of life. Without real life--a family--it's a sad sideshow.

    Replies: @anon

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @SimpleSong

    Simple, AND check out the difference in life for a guy after a divorce.All I'm going to say.

    , @Kent Nationalist
    @SimpleSong

    Being a GP is well suited to women's temperament and abilities

    , @JohnnyWalker123
    @SimpleSong

    Lots of physicians are passionate about what they do.

    I don't think saving countless lives makes one a "dummy." I think it's to be applauded.

  25. If a C.E.O. is willing to trust his sick child to an on-call pediatrician, then why not let an on-call C.P.A. handle a weekend accounting question?

    JFC, my accountant (along with my lawyer) are practically my business partners. Trust me, if I have a serious question requiring a CPA or an attorney, I am not going to settle for talking to a clerk.

  26. @Elli
    OT: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/morocco-e2-80-98weaponized-e2-80-99-migration-to-punish-spain-that-e2-80-99s-more-common-than-you-think/ar-AAKABx5

    Amazingly this is from a WaPo writer:


    Morocco ‘weaponized’ migration to punish Spain. That’s more common than you think.


    On May 17, more than 6,000 people swam, floated or scaled a pair of 32-foot-high border fences to cross from Morocco into neighboring Ceuta, an eight-square-mile Spanish-owned city on Africa’s northern coast. Critically for those seeking to enter, Ceuta is inside European Union territory. According to Spanish authorities, it was the largest single-day influx of unregulated migrants in the country’s history. At least 2,000 more followed the next day.

    This wasn’t an accident. Apparently, Morocco engineered this mass cross-border movement to punish and coerce Spain. Video footage appeared to show Moroccan border guards opening fences to the Spanish enclave and allowing people through.

    Nor was this unusual. Strategically engineered migration is far more common than most people realize. At any given time, somewhere in the world, leaders inside or outside governments are likely manipulating migrants and/or refugees to pursue political, military or economic objectives.
     

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Fluesterwitz, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Nicholas Stix, @Getaclue

    Here are a couple of old posts of mine about Professor Kelly Greenhill’s work:

    https://www.unz.com/?s=greenhill&Action=Search&authors=steve-sailer&ptype=isteve

  27. If women are getting paid 82 cents on the dollar they must be being paid in Canadian dollars. And, how come none of the underpaid women worker stories mention that women teachers make as much as male teachers, are big in teachers’ unions and are plentiful as principals and school superintendents.

    • Replies: @Pericles
    @Buffalo Joe

    Dey be equivalents! Only equivalents! Women only compare to men at same step of ladder!

    Nice little trick, can be combined with many other tricks such as "why are there so few female X" to paint the desired image of injustice.

  28. @JohnnyWalker123
    I'll solve the problem.

    -Offer more flex-time for employees, especially women with children.
    -More online work options (especially meetings), even if for just for a fraction of the workweek.
    -More part-time work options, including high-paying White-collar jobs.
    -Parent-Teacher conferences online or on the weekend.
    -Daycare centers that are located inside the work facility.
    -Medical&dental facilities located inside the work facility, to see the doctor&dentist at work.
    -Make it easier to see the doctor and dentist during the weekend.
    -More online options for kids when they're sick.
    -Giving kids supplements at school (Zinc, Vit C, Vit D) to minimize sick days.
    -More ready-made, cheap, easy meal options from the grocery store. Grab&go.
    -Expand school lunch to all kids (even wealthy). Also, offer healthier&better tasting options.
    -Expand school breakfast.
    -School-organized carpools (or just more buses) to get kids home. Saves mom a trip.
    -Re-integrate middle-aged moms who've been out of the workforce for years.
    -Provide time off for moms who have to leave the workforce to be caregivers.
    -Longer school days and more summer school options.
    -Getting kids to complete their homework in school (with teacher assistance), which would be really helpful to parents.
    -If kids stay late enough, school dinners can be an option.
    -Provide a stipend to older relatives (such as grandparents) to take care of kids.
    -Schools can teach kids to become more independent at an early age and to take on more chores.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Colin Wright, @Alden, @Kent Nationalist, @Bardon Kaldian, @Bill Jones, @Prof. Woland, @epochehusserl, @Jim Bob Lassiter

    I’m sorry, but I don’t like any one of these bullet points, Johnny. They either imply there will be yet more government regulation on business or that government schools will be an even bigger part of raising Americans’ kids. How’s THAT been working out for us? Critical Race Theory, anyone?

    Name me a single one of these points that is any way Conservative. Abolish Public Education!

    • Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian
    @Achmed E. Newman

    His points also seem to assume that most of the employment situations involved are institutional/corporate, definitely not those of the self-employed or entrepreneurial. In the institutional or corporate world these shared or flextime positions are not uncommon; minimal coverage is pretty reliably available, and in that world some of these suggestions are quite practical. But a lot of us don't live in that world, and these points have absolutely no relevance to our situation.

    And good God almighty, where is all of the money to make these "solutions" (and in reality these only beneficial to some subset of the taxpaying public...) actually going to come from? This is magical thinking at its worst. None of the points are conservative, they are all Nanny State to the max.

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans

    , @JohnnyWalker123
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Lots of parents claim they're overwhelmed by the demands of child-rearing. If schools could take on more of the load (meals, homework assistance, summer supervision), I think that'd lighten the stress a lot. Especially if employers cooperated around parental schedules, in the ways I outlined above.

    Alternatively, we could keep the current system.

    Or we could abolish public education completely and let parents do as they please. Though it's not clear whether that'd make life any easier.

    Most parents complain constantly about how hard it is these days to raise kids. Especially helping their kids with homework, taking them to appointments, and feeding them meals.

    I don't anticipate a lot of my ideas making it through Congress though.

    Replies: @Alden

    , @Paperback Writer
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Articles like this, and all the whining about "equity" are horseshite, Achmed. Any human society worth more than mud shacks rewards effort and application. Not just the Anglosphere, or the Krautosphere.

    Russians are often slagged as being lazy, and there's a lot of truth to that. Now go look at a Russian ballet company. Not a lazy bone in the lot. They work like dogs - because they value that art form.

    Every goddamn tradesman in NYC is now Latino. I thought Latins were lazy. They work like dogs.

    Regarding ladies in the workforce, I do think there's a problem in that regard but you know, middle-class professional women are doing fine. It's the working class gals who are terribly stressed by their schedules, which they cannot change.

    Kristof is a punk and a fake. He only cares about his class.

  29. @SimpleSong
    Most physicians are in varying degrees of 'eat what you kill' practices.

    That is, if you take out a gallbladder, you send Medicare or whatever insurer a bill, they send you a check, done. Your gender never comes up. For the most part, the way to make more money is simple: take out more gallbladders. Take more call, see more patients, etc. There is stuff around the edges you can do, sure, try to improve your payor mix, other things, but for the most part, it's just how much you want to work. While many physicians are ostensibly 'employed physicians', if you dig down you find that in reality they just get a flat percentage of what their employer bills out in their name. All the 'employer' does is handle billing paperwork, credentialing, etc. See zero patients, get zero dollars.

    The implication that there are some moustache twisting villains plotting how to pay women less is absurd. They get paid less because they work less, period.

    The issue I've seen with a number of young female physicians is they seem to think that a medical degree is a stamp that puts you in the aristocracy. They think that just by dint of having the degree they deserve to get paid handsomely, have a good life, etc.. The happiest day of their medical career is graduation day. In reality, the degree is just a certification that allows you to do a particular type of (high paying) work. If you don't actually do the work...you get nothing. It's not a license to be idle rich. It's not a marriage to Mr. Darcy. Graduation day is the beginning, not the end.

    Now to be clear I think there are actually a lot of ways in which female physicians are superior to male physicians. They are less likely to commit insurance fraud. Women have much better fine motor skills than men (notice handwriting quality in boys vs girls) so honestly I think for many types of surgeries they do a better job. Many fields that involve being naked people are more comfortable with female physicians (OB-gyn, dermatology, etc.) A lot of male physicians work themselves to exhaustion and the quality of work suffers. Disruptive physicians (a.k.a. raging assholes) are almost always males.

    On the other hand pretty much all innovation that I see tends to be driven by males (white males, in particular). In short, unlike some fields (like engineering) I don't think the women in medicine don't belong--they're perfectly good physicians, and it's good to have both. But women making less is not a problem to be solved. They work less, they make less, it's their choice.

    I mean, who is really the dummy here, the guy who will look back on his life and say I spent most of it doing manual labor in an operating room, or the person with the balanced life that makes a little less? I think the men are getting cheated here, cheated out of life...

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @HbutnotG, @BenKenobi, @Richard of Melbourne, @Anon, @Michael S, @AnotherDad, @Buffalo Joe, @Kent Nationalist, @JohnnyWalker123

    For the most part, the way to make more money is simple: take out more gallbladders.

    How many do we have, anyway? I thought it was just one or two.

    Thanks for the interesting comment, SS. I think male doctors have pretty good lives too, though better if it’s airplanes or boats rather than ex-wives.

    • Replies: @SimpleSong
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Yeah, I liked it, thought it was a pretty good life, as long as you are realistic about what your role is in the grand scheme of things. Going into it I thought doctors got paid well because they were doing something really cognitively difficult, but it turned out we get paid well because you have to manually rectally disimpact 95 year olds at 3 a.m. and no one would stick with it if you didn't pay them. My brother on the other hand was an engineer and the work he did was just so much cooler than what I did, so I was always a little envious (he worked in defense...) The difference between us was that when he mastered something, that meant the project was done, the design was finished, and he moved on to a new challenge and learned something new. When I mastered something it meant that I got to do it over and over and over and over and over and over and over again for the next 30 years.

    Replies: @HbutnotG, @black sea, @International Jew

    , @Deckin
    @Achmed E. Newman

    " I think male doctors have pretty good lives too, though better if it’s airplanes or boats rather than ex-wives."

    All high earning males need heed the advice of Paul Reiser's character in the show Red Oaks (though I think it comes from a novel):

    "If it flies, floats, or fucks, rent it!"

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  30. @JohnnyWalker123
    I'll solve the problem.

    -Offer more flex-time for employees, especially women with children.
    -More online work options (especially meetings), even if for just for a fraction of the workweek.
    -More part-time work options, including high-paying White-collar jobs.
    -Parent-Teacher conferences online or on the weekend.
    -Daycare centers that are located inside the work facility.
    -Medical&dental facilities located inside the work facility, to see the doctor&dentist at work.
    -Make it easier to see the doctor and dentist during the weekend.
    -More online options for kids when they're sick.
    -Giving kids supplements at school (Zinc, Vit C, Vit D) to minimize sick days.
    -More ready-made, cheap, easy meal options from the grocery store. Grab&go.
    -Expand school lunch to all kids (even wealthy). Also, offer healthier&better tasting options.
    -Expand school breakfast.
    -School-organized carpools (or just more buses) to get kids home. Saves mom a trip.
    -Re-integrate middle-aged moms who've been out of the workforce for years.
    -Provide time off for moms who have to leave the workforce to be caregivers.
    -Longer school days and more summer school options.
    -Getting kids to complete their homework in school (with teacher assistance), which would be really helpful to parents.
    -If kids stay late enough, school dinners can be an option.
    -Provide a stipend to older relatives (such as grandparents) to take care of kids.
    -Schools can teach kids to become more independent at an early age and to take on more chores.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Colin Wright, @Alden, @Kent Nationalist, @Bardon Kaldian, @Bill Jones, @Prof. Woland, @epochehusserl, @Jim Bob Lassiter

    ‘I’ll solve the problem.

    -Offer more flex-time for employees…’

    Etc, etc.

    Or…

    Don’t worry about it. It’s only a ‘problem’ if you decide it is. Life will go on if the average man advances further than the average woman. It really will.

    • Agree: kaganovitch
    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @Colin Wright

    You could do that. Though I'd say life is pretty stressful for the average American family. Especially in comparison to what exists in Western Europe.

    I like it when life is easy. Though some say difficulty builds character.

    I like work-life balance, lots of free time, and minimal anxiety. I think too much of a burden is placed on parents. It's like you can't even catch your breath these days.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

  31. @Paperback Writer

    than I do) to deal with the kids’ birthday planning or the bat in the bedroom.

     

    What? They had bats in their bedroom? I knew that his wife was Chinese but this is weird. What were they doing, gain of function experiments?

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @additionalMike, @JerseyJeffersonian

    Hahaaa! That was brilliant, Mr. Writer.

  32. @Paperback Writer

    than I do) to deal with the kids’ birthday planning or the bat in the bedroom.

     

    What? They had bats in their bedroom? I knew that his wife was Chinese but this is weird. What were they doing, gain of function experiments?

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @additionalMike, @JerseyJeffersonian

    I snicker at your snide commentary!

    (See photondancer, below.)

  33. Kristof is acting like job-sharing or splitting call is some kind of new idea–that’s been around for at least 40 years for people who want to dial it back for whatever reason. People have discussed the pros and cons forever…I guess I can rehash them here…

    If everybody job-shares and works 60% of the current level, some good things and bad things will happen:

    good things:
    –probably physicians will be happier, better rested, nicer to patients, fewer errors

    maybe bad/maybe good things:
    –average salaries will go down, which means you may start seeing some bright people who would have gone into medicine go elsewhere. Good? Bad? Not sure.

    –medicine will become more female since females tend to favor work-life balance.

    bad things:
    –there are a lot of places, mid sized towns, where there is enough work for maybe 1 urologist or 1 ENT or whatever. If he’s the only guy in town, that means he’s on call every. single. night. But most nights on call he does nothing. In a town like that, a job share, you just can’t make it work. Not enough volume. This kind of shift-work approach really only works in big cities, large populations, predictable demand. So… now that midsized town doesn’t have a urologist and you’ve got an hour long ambulance ride to take care of your kidney stone. And an hour’s drive back and forth for all the follow up visits.

    –doing more cases is good for your skills. The best are the busiest and the busiest are the best, as they say. Job sharing, less busy, might see some skill erosion.

    –If everybody dials it back by x%, then to maintain the same level of service, we need to increase trainees. But unfortunately you can’t just order up a few units from the doctor factory. In training physicians need to see patients with rare and unusual conditions, and there are only so many of them to go around. There are only so many people willing to donate their bodies to anatomy labs after death. There are only so many hospitals that are big enough, with a wide enough variety of procedures and patients, that they can provide a good training experience. So if everybody dials it back, then we either end up with less service, or the same amount of service from less-well-trained physicians.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
  34. @photondancer
    I snickered at your snide commentary but all the same, I think he's making a good point. There's not really any good reason why many jobs can't be shared more, nor should partnership be a reward for stupid criteria such as 'he puts in long hours'. Work smarter not harder - wasn't that the slogan when us plebs wanted more money?

    Although I do wonder how many of those 24/7 veterinarians are women, especially women with children.

    Replies: @Yancey Ward, @Alden, @Sollipsist

    nor should partnership be a reward for stupid criteria such as ‘he puts in long hours’

    Isn’t partnership usually given with regards to who actually brings in new clients, and keeps them?

    • Replies: @photondancer
    @Yancey Ward

    Not according to the many comments I've seen over the years about people feeling obliged to work long hours to show their bosses they're willing. Working only 40 hours a week? Poof go your chances of partnership or even promotion, apparently.

    Who knows, maybe in the end it's just whoever the existing partners like the best.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Alden

  35. @Barack Obama's secret Unz account

    My wife, Sheryl WuDunn, and I believe deeply in gender equity — we wrote a book about it — and yet, looking back, I see this was true of us. I was typically the one who flew off to cover coups, leaving Sheryl (who has more graduate degrees than I do) to deal with the kids’ birthday planning or the bat in the bedroom.
     
    It's always about the number (and quality) of degrees with these people. They never claim expertise or authority on the basis of experience or wisdom or talent.

    In hindsight, giving kids gold star stickers in primary school was a really bad idea.

    Replies: @Yancey Ward, @Mulga Mumblebrain

    I was wondering the same thing. What the f**k does a graduate degree have to do with a journalist covering a coup?

    • Replies: @Barack Obama's secret Unz account
    @Yancey Ward

    It's a meritocracy. (Merit meaning good grades at school.)

    , @James J O'Meara
    @Yancey Ward

    It certifies that the bearer has been adequately indoctrinated into the correct worldview, so as to ensure he/she covers the coup "correctly".

    BTW, the ideology is everywhere, so the actual "subject matter" doesn't, um, matter.

    "His brain has not only been washed, but dry cleaned!" -- The Manchurian Candidate

  36. @Paperback Writer

    than I do) to deal with the kids’ birthday planning or the bat in the bedroom.

     

    What? They had bats in their bedroom? I knew that his wife was Chinese but this is weird. What were they doing, gain of function experiments?

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @additionalMike, @JerseyJeffersonian

    Maybe I’m just an old fossil who is way behind on the trends, but when the couple in question’s names are Claudia and Sheryl, I’m thinking that there might be a “husband” and a “wife” here, but that they are both female, so there is actually no “he” involved. Correct me if I am mistaken, please.

    • Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian
    @JerseyJeffersonian

    Okay, I see that WuDunn is actually Kristoff's wife. I was confused by the way the story was written, or at least the excerpted passages that were selected (I don't give the NYT clicks).

    Steve, you can delete or not post these successive posts. Thanks.

    , @Paperback Writer
    @JerseyJeffersonian

    OK, you realized your error but who knows? Claudia and Sheryl may yet take up the challenge.

    There's weird stuff in that bat guano, you know.

  37. @Moral Stone
    Shocking indeed that the completely normal couple Claudia and Sheryl have issues with how the vast majority of biological parents seem perfectly happy to divvy up parenting responsibilities along gender lines.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    Shocking indeed that the completely normal couple Claudia and Sheryl have issues with how the vast majority of biological parents seem perfectly happy to divvy up parenting responsibilities along gender lines.

    Sheryl is Kristoff’s wife , not Claudia’s.

    • Replies: @Moral Stone
    @kaganovitch

    Whoops my bad.

  38. @Achmed E. Newman
    @SimpleSong


    For the most part, the way to make more money is simple: take out more gallbladders.
     
    How many do we have, anyway? I thought it was just one or two.

    Thanks for the interesting comment, SS. I think male doctors have pretty good lives too, though better if it's airplanes or boats rather than ex-wives.

    Replies: @SimpleSong, @Deckin

    Yeah, I liked it, thought it was a pretty good life, as long as you are realistic about what your role is in the grand scheme of things. Going into it I thought doctors got paid well because they were doing something really cognitively difficult, but it turned out we get paid well because you have to manually rectally disimpact 95 year olds at 3 a.m. and no one would stick with it if you didn’t pay them. My brother on the other hand was an engineer and the work he did was just so much cooler than what I did, so I was always a little envious (he worked in defense…) The difference between us was that when he mastered something, that meant the project was done, the design was finished, and he moved on to a new challenge and learned something new. When I mastered something it meant that I got to do it over and over and over and over and over and over and over again for the next 30 years.

    • Replies: @HbutnotG
    @SimpleSong

    You should've went to veterinary school. No government-imposed limit to what you can bill for stuff, and you'll get all the work pediatricians once got now that being nulliparous and treating an animal like your kid is like, so in.

    Do you know what you can bill for disimpacting a schnauzer? hint: the sky is the limit. A human? I last heard, $19.

    , @black sea
    @SimpleSong

    Thanks for this and the previous comment. They more or less reflect what I've had a couple of doctor friends tell me over the years. That it's closer to manual labor than a lot of students expect, and that there is definitely a ceiling as to how much you can charge for your services. If you want to maximize your income, you work about as many hours as is humanly possible.

    Also, I've never talked to a doctor who had positive things to say about the billing system and working with Medicare or insurance companies. There are probably some gross inefficiencies there, and cost-cutting is never going to be popular among those whose costs are being cut.

    Replies: @Prof. Woland

    , @International Jew
    @SimpleSong

    Ugh. But surely people who are averse to the gross aspect can become radiologists or anesthesiologists?

    Replies: @SimpleSong

  39. Anon[334] • Disclaimer says:

    OT: The Democratic-run IRS is leaking people’s tax returns again. You should expect it to happen to all the Republicans running for office in 2022 and 2024.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/new-leak-taxpayer-info-more-evidence-irs-corruption

    Republican-run states need to bring out the heavy ammo. They need to pass laws that if any Federal agency starts leaking tax returns, it violates a state law regarding privacy, and a warrant can be issued for the arrest of top IRS officials. Another thing state legislatures can do is pass a law saying that if a citizen of their own state has their returns leaked, ALL Federal taxes paid by every taxpayer in that state can be legally stopped, because the IRS is operating in bad faith and breaking the laws protecting privacy. All payments through bank accounts using Swift to the IRS will be stopped.

  40. Feminism Demands That Doctors Treat People Like Dogs

    Dogs don’t deserve that either.

    For every dog I’ve owned and trained, there has been a local, male veterinarian on call. Only once did I need to take advantage of this, but it meant being able to get the guy on the phone when a dog had been hit by an SUV on an icy road, her back broken in the middle of the night. If he hadn’t been there to take that call, she would have suffered until the next day.

    This crap is unfair, not only to humans but to dogs and other animals as well.

    Once I managed a group of nine employees, and one of them was a black single mom. Naturally, she couldn’t work on Fridays because she couldn’t get day care on that day. How about that? When I questioned her and suggested that others should not have to always work on a day everyone wanted off, she came back with questions she clearly had gotten from a lawyer. I had to back off.

    This is just more bullshit to allow women to simultaneously have children and inhabit the male, working world — with training wheels permanently on to make things easier.

    What really sucks in this example by Steve is the impact it is now having on the work of caring for innocent dogs. Sorry, but that is how it reads. I wouldn’t be surprised if half of these idiot feminists are “vegetarians” or “vegans” too.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Buzz Mohawk

    One thing I have never understood about these fools always whining about day care. They don’t seem to realize that kids don’t stay 3 years old forever. They grow up. In a few years they are 7 or 8 and can come home from school fix a snack and do whatever.

    Now black kids are very different. Black parents really really don’t want their kids home alone because the kids will tear the house apart get their sister pregnant at 11 whatever.

    But other normal kids are perfectly capable of taking care of themselves.

    Other options teens . Kids in the neighborhood happy to come to your home after school watch your younger kids and make $10 an hour. A stay at home mom wants to make extra money. College student if there’s one nearby.

    Most grade schools have homework club fun fun fun computer club and other after school activities.

    Maids. Have the maid work 1-5 instead of 8-12. Order the kids not to bother her.

    Local rec center if you live in the suburbs. Ballet sports teams judo Art this and that Scouts after school.

    Kids love to be independent and macho and take care of themselves. They’re hungry and quickly progress from fixing snacks to fixing dinner. Boys love noisy motors as in washers dryers vacumms and floor buffers.

    Day care is really for unruly thuggish black kids who can’t be trusted to take a bus home from school and stay home without into getting trouble.

    If 2 lawyers or Drs can’t figure it out well, too bad.

    Replies: @S. Anonyia

    , @Hangnail Hans
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Pretty much agree, though your final sentence is a bizarre non sequitur.

    , @Alden
    @Buzz Mohawk

    How old was the black women’s kid? And did the kid ever grow old enough to go to school and come home and stay there till Mom came home? Or did the kid stay 4 years old for the next ten years?

  41. @JerseyJeffersonian
    @Paperback Writer

    Maybe I'm just an old fossil who is way behind on the trends, but when the couple in question's names are Claudia and Sheryl, I'm thinking that there might be a "husband" and a "wife" here, but that they are both female, so there is actually no "he" involved. Correct me if I am mistaken, please.

    Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian, @Paperback Writer

    Okay, I see that WuDunn is actually Kristoff’s wife. I was confused by the way the story was written, or at least the excerpted passages that were selected (I don’t give the NYT clicks).

    Steve, you can delete or not post these successive posts. Thanks.

  42. Kristoff gives up a little too much information to his audience. Explaining that the wage gap is almost solely attributable to raising children, and not to misogynistic frat boy CEOs slapping their female employees’ bottoms and paying them less just because, takes most of the air out the sails. Most sane and well balanced people seem to recognize the tradeoffs in such decisions and realize there aren’t easy solutions and nobody to get the bulk of the blame.

    I suspect the next big push will be for feminists to insist that to be truly feminist you must be anti-misogynist, which means that as a person with a Y chromosome you must sign a pledge to take a lesser job and do a majority of the childcare and homecare duties, to compensate for thousands of years of sexism. And I’m pretty sure both the tranny crowd and the people of color who have gained so much the last decade will help make sure such initiatives are DOA.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @John Milton's Ghost

    The next big push will be mandatory female co-CEOs, like the laws in Germany requiring union reps on the corporate board, along with many-splendored other quotas and sex privileges/segregation. They are hellbent to prove the anti-worth of having any women working in a company (personally I hope we reach that teachable moment soon):

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/05/business/nondisclosure-agreements-lioness.html

  43. Well, well. Answers a question that’s bugged me for years. I couldn’t get hired into a group for years, as a man over 30 and (god forbid) still single. But once in a group, that group now going PC, the female wants full partnership working 2 days a week. She gets it! And why? Because the nanny wanted to quit. My question was: What’s that got to do with me?

    I was in charge of schedules, and we all were expected to “step aside” scheduling time off if SHE had some BS thing going on particularly with the kids, even if it was something someone planned and on the calendar months ago. This culminated in an unsolvable and permanent feud with another partner, a feud which was played out in my office to me only, never face to face, and one day I just had enough, and announced my retirement per contract, on 4 weeks notice. And I did! That really got the ball rolling. [I have saved the phone recording where she (in the filthiest language you ever heard) goes on & on like a dock worker about so and so won’t change plans even though little “Megan’s” prom (or some BS) required her to take “just one” day off.} Priceless! LOL! I was out of there only 4 weeks, and reaping the rewards.

    If it was me, I’d do no hires unless there is a hysterectomy. And I want proof!

    There’s your difference in pay, cunts!

    • LOL: YetAnotherAnon
  44. @SimpleSong
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Yeah, I liked it, thought it was a pretty good life, as long as you are realistic about what your role is in the grand scheme of things. Going into it I thought doctors got paid well because they were doing something really cognitively difficult, but it turned out we get paid well because you have to manually rectally disimpact 95 year olds at 3 a.m. and no one would stick with it if you didn't pay them. My brother on the other hand was an engineer and the work he did was just so much cooler than what I did, so I was always a little envious (he worked in defense...) The difference between us was that when he mastered something, that meant the project was done, the design was finished, and he moved on to a new challenge and learned something new. When I mastered something it meant that I got to do it over and over and over and over and over and over and over again for the next 30 years.

    Replies: @HbutnotG, @black sea, @International Jew

    You should’ve went to veterinary school. No government-imposed limit to what you can bill for stuff, and you’ll get all the work pediatricians once got now that being nulliparous and treating an animal like your kid is like, so in.

    Do you know what you can bill for disimpacting a schnauzer? hint: the sky is the limit. A human? I last heard, $19.

  45. Anonymous[359] • Disclaimer says:
    @Michael S
    No one believes in the mythical "gender pay gap" anymore, not even the most devout shitlibs. And in any event, I am reliably informed that male and female are just arbitrary labels; can't these women just choose to identify as men and reap the benefits of those 28 cents?

    No prizes for guessing whether or not the whamen being interviewed is childless, unmarried or married to a sad omega, and rates about a 2 to 4.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Desiderius, @Bardon Kaldian, @peterike

    No one believes in the mythical “gender pay gap” anymore, not even the most devout shitlibs

    –this is Nicholas Kristof (b. 1959) we’re talking about. He believes in all manner of dotard tropes. You could say it’s his brand, pace humblebrag about how he once “flew off to cover coups.”

    Rarely is the cost of graybeard and aspiring-graybeard out-of-touchness accounted, perhaps for being an expected phase of civilization, but we long ago passed into the terminal phase of pundit dumbness.

    Been particularly acute the past 5 years.

  46. Anonymous[359] • Disclaimer says:
    @John Milton's Ghost
    Kristoff gives up a little too much information to his audience. Explaining that the wage gap is almost solely attributable to raising children, and not to misogynistic frat boy CEOs slapping their female employees' bottoms and paying them less just because, takes most of the air out the sails. Most sane and well balanced people seem to recognize the tradeoffs in such decisions and realize there aren't easy solutions and nobody to get the bulk of the blame.

    I suspect the next big push will be for feminists to insist that to be truly feminist you must be anti-misogynist, which means that as a person with a Y chromosome you must sign a pledge to take a lesser job and do a majority of the childcare and homecare duties, to compensate for thousands of years of sexism. And I'm pretty sure both the tranny crowd and the people of color who have gained so much the last decade will help make sure such initiatives are DOA.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    The next big push will be mandatory female co-CEOs, like the laws in Germany requiring union reps on the corporate board, along with many-splendored other quotas and sex privileges/segregation. They are hellbent to prove the anti-worth of having any women working in a company (personally I hope we reach that teachable moment soon):

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/05/business/nondisclosure-agreements-lioness.html

  47. @SimpleSong
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Yeah, I liked it, thought it was a pretty good life, as long as you are realistic about what your role is in the grand scheme of things. Going into it I thought doctors got paid well because they were doing something really cognitively difficult, but it turned out we get paid well because you have to manually rectally disimpact 95 year olds at 3 a.m. and no one would stick with it if you didn't pay them. My brother on the other hand was an engineer and the work he did was just so much cooler than what I did, so I was always a little envious (he worked in defense...) The difference between us was that when he mastered something, that meant the project was done, the design was finished, and he moved on to a new challenge and learned something new. When I mastered something it meant that I got to do it over and over and over and over and over and over and over again for the next 30 years.

    Replies: @HbutnotG, @black sea, @International Jew

    Thanks for this and the previous comment. They more or less reflect what I’ve had a couple of doctor friends tell me over the years. That it’s closer to manual labor than a lot of students expect, and that there is definitely a ceiling as to how much you can charge for your services. If you want to maximize your income, you work about as many hours as is humanly possible.

    Also, I’ve never talked to a doctor who had positive things to say about the billing system and working with Medicare or insurance companies. There are probably some gross inefficiencies there, and cost-cutting is never going to be popular among those whose costs are being cut.

    • Replies: @Prof. Woland
    @black sea

    First generation wealth is typically generated by someone in a low prestige business where they worked their tails off and were frugal. They also often took a lot of risk. When they finally make it, the first thing they do is put their kids through medical or law school because. This gives them the respect they did not have and it is a much lower risk occupation in the sense that it is hard to fail once you have your schooling which was paid my mom and dad.

  48. Anon[147] • Disclaimer says:

    The article is paywalled. But from the blurbs, I already know the score. Kristof, the good NYT goy, found a nice Jewish Economist, Goldin, to cite.

    Just from reading Goldin’s comments, I know immediately she is either from U Chicago or Columbia. Columbia for standard Jewish communists; U Chicago for Jewish sperg libertarians. In Jewish culture, there is little in-between, except when it comes to international aid towards Israel or taxing private equity. Miraculously, on those subjects, they find common ground.

    U Chicago is famous for Jewish economists taking normal, genetically-ingrained Gentile gender roles and theoretically shoe-horning them into mathematical models of economic specialization.

    Looking at her Wikipedia page, sure enough, I’m correct. Shockingly, she also regularly co-authors with Lawrence Katz. Mind blown.

    At this this point, can we acknowledge Harvard is a shtetl for Jewish boomers?

    • Replies: @James J O'Meara
    @Anon

    This is why paywalls won't work for the MSM: the content is so formulaic as to be predictable to anyone with half a brain.

  49. OT: French Open

    Americans have again been humiliated at tennis. Coco Gauff, black tennis player,
    who was the last remaining American in singles, had an ugly outburst when
    she realized she was being easily defeated by a Czech player. No impulse
    control at all. It doesn’t help that at a tender age she already has a huge ego, being
    brainwashed by her dad to believe she’s the next Serena Williams.

    It’s always amusing to see blacks realize that there are two kinds of white
    people. The kind they are used to are Western Europeans (incl. Germanics)
    and their descendants, who invaded the world, colonized it, enslaved it, and
    now, full of self-loathing, are slowly twisting in guilt. The other kind of
    whites that blacks are not used to are mostly of Slavic origin – a huge group.
    In Europe the Slavs at 240 million outnumber Germanics, at 120 million,
    2 to 1. This other kind of whites never participated in colonialism or
    slave trade, and therefore don’t feel the slightest guilt about humiliating
    blacks in sports or in any other endeavor. Black supremacists who
    talked themselves into believing that blacks have no equal in sports,
    music, and sex, don’t know how to deal with this other group of whites.

    P.S. It’s still humiliating that a country of 335 million people can no longer
    produce a good American-born tennis player. Forget about great, someone who
    regularly reaches semifinals would do.

    • Replies: @Peter D. Bredon
    @Anon 2

    Yeah, well, Der Fuhrer said they were subhumans, so there's that.

    , @Marty T
    @Anon 2

    I'm glad Coco Gauff lost. She is a little BLM activist in training. The fact that she lives on the same land as me doesn't make me like her more, it makes me like her less.

  50. Kristoff

    Typo, or pun?

  51. From the headline, I was afraid we were going back to rectal thermometers.

  52. Anon[203] • Disclaimer says:

    You know what Female Vets do to get that Much Needed Family Time?
    Murder your Pet. All female staff euthanized my animal without my knowledge or consent. Illegal as hell. When I asked ‘Would you euthanize a human with that condition?’ I got a bunch of stupid blank looks. A mixture of ignorant stupidity along with malicious evil (under the guise of relieving suffering) is a nasty combination

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Anon


    malicious evil (under the guise of relieving suffering)
     
    Apathy = fear of suffering

    Literally it means not suffering. Sympathy means suffering together, so if you're afraid of all suffering you never get to the together part.
  53. @Achmed E. Newman
    @JohnnyWalker123

    I'm sorry, but I don't like any one of these bullet points, Johnny. They either imply there will be yet more government regulation on business or that government schools will be an even bigger part of raising Americans' kids. How's THAT been working out for us? Critical Race Theory, anyone?

    Name me a single one of these points that is any way Conservative. Abolish Public Education!

    Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian, @JohnnyWalker123, @Paperback Writer

    His points also seem to assume that most of the employment situations involved are institutional/corporate, definitely not those of the self-employed or entrepreneurial. In the institutional or corporate world these shared or flextime positions are not uncommon; minimal coverage is pretty reliably available, and in that world some of these suggestions are quite practical. But a lot of us don’t live in that world, and these points have absolutely no relevance to our situation.

    And good God almighty, where is all of the money to make these “solutions” (and in reality these only beneficial to some subset of the taxpaying public…) actually going to come from? This is magical thinking at its worst. None of the points are conservative, they are all Nanny State to the max.

    • Replies: @Hangnail Hans
    @JerseyJeffersonian

    Where's all the money going to come from? We're throwing trillions around now. Money is on its way toward being free for everyone (at least politically favored groups), and essentially worthless. Your house is skyrocketing in value? No it's not, it's a sign that the dollar is losing value. Much more on the way.

  54. @JohnnyWalker123
    I'll solve the problem.

    -Offer more flex-time for employees, especially women with children.
    -More online work options (especially meetings), even if for just for a fraction of the workweek.
    -More part-time work options, including high-paying White-collar jobs.
    -Parent-Teacher conferences online or on the weekend.
    -Daycare centers that are located inside the work facility.
    -Medical&dental facilities located inside the work facility, to see the doctor&dentist at work.
    -Make it easier to see the doctor and dentist during the weekend.
    -More online options for kids when they're sick.
    -Giving kids supplements at school (Zinc, Vit C, Vit D) to minimize sick days.
    -More ready-made, cheap, easy meal options from the grocery store. Grab&go.
    -Expand school lunch to all kids (even wealthy). Also, offer healthier&better tasting options.
    -Expand school breakfast.
    -School-organized carpools (or just more buses) to get kids home. Saves mom a trip.
    -Re-integrate middle-aged moms who've been out of the workforce for years.
    -Provide time off for moms who have to leave the workforce to be caregivers.
    -Longer school days and more summer school options.
    -Getting kids to complete their homework in school (with teacher assistance), which would be really helpful to parents.
    -If kids stay late enough, school dinners can be an option.
    -Provide a stipend to older relatives (such as grandparents) to take care of kids.
    -Schools can teach kids to become more independent at an early age and to take on more chores.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Colin Wright, @Alden, @Kent Nationalist, @Bardon Kaldian, @Bill Jones, @Prof. Woland, @epochehusserl, @Jim Bob Lassiter

    How about parents teaching kids to become independent take care of pets do laundry cook dinner do chores at an early age?

    Your plans sound practical. Something like a medieval monastery for married couples with kids or a kibbutz

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @Alden

    I feel like kids are increasingly dependent on their parents these days. It'd help lighten the load a lot if kids could take on chores, as they did in the old days.

    Parenting isn't meant to be done just by mom and dad. Usually extended family helped in the past. That should be encouraged too. Too much is placed on parents.

  55. @photondancer
    I snickered at your snide commentary but all the same, I think he's making a good point. There's not really any good reason why many jobs can't be shared more, nor should partnership be a reward for stupid criteria such as 'he puts in long hours'. Work smarter not harder - wasn't that the slogan when us plebs wanted more money?

    Although I do wonder how many of those 24/7 veterinarians are women, especially women with children.

    Replies: @Yancey Ward, @Alden, @Sollipsist

    It’s not like a busy hospital major emergency room with a veterinarian there all not. If a pet needs treatment, make a call and the on call vet meets you there. And most of the people who work in the vets office aren’t vets anyway. Nurses can’t prescribe medicine for people. But any assistant can take care of pets unless they need surgery.

    • Replies: @photondancer
    @Alden

    It sounds like it works that way where you live. In Sydney, not so much. Maybe there are vets who offer this service but I know mine doesn't. If my pet needs urgent help out of office hours I have to take her to an emergency service and there's only a handful of them for the entire city.

  56. @SimpleSong
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Yeah, I liked it, thought it was a pretty good life, as long as you are realistic about what your role is in the grand scheme of things. Going into it I thought doctors got paid well because they were doing something really cognitively difficult, but it turned out we get paid well because you have to manually rectally disimpact 95 year olds at 3 a.m. and no one would stick with it if you didn't pay them. My brother on the other hand was an engineer and the work he did was just so much cooler than what I did, so I was always a little envious (he worked in defense...) The difference between us was that when he mastered something, that meant the project was done, the design was finished, and he moved on to a new challenge and learned something new. When I mastered something it meant that I got to do it over and over and over and over and over and over and over again for the next 30 years.

    Replies: @HbutnotG, @black sea, @International Jew

    Ugh. But surely people who are averse to the gross aspect can become radiologists or anesthesiologists?

    • Replies: @SimpleSong
    @International Jew

    Radiology, yes. A very good field. Nice air conditioned room, some coffee. Anesthesiologists however get barfed on a fair bit, or gloops of snot snot at them. Covid was not kind to the anesthesiologists.

    Replies: @Stan D Mute, @HbutnotG

  57. @Achmed E. Newman
    @JohnnyWalker123

    I'm sorry, but I don't like any one of these bullet points, Johnny. They either imply there will be yet more government regulation on business or that government schools will be an even bigger part of raising Americans' kids. How's THAT been working out for us? Critical Race Theory, anyone?

    Name me a single one of these points that is any way Conservative. Abolish Public Education!

    Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian, @JohnnyWalker123, @Paperback Writer

    Lots of parents claim they’re overwhelmed by the demands of child-rearing. If schools could take on more of the load (meals, homework assistance, summer supervision), I think that’d lighten the stress a lot. Especially if employers cooperated around parental schedules, in the ways I outlined above.

    Alternatively, we could keep the current system.

    Or we could abolish public education completely and let parents do as they please. Though it’s not clear whether that’d make life any easier.

    Most parents complain constantly about how hard it is these days to raise kids. Especially helping their kids with homework, taking them to appointments, and feeding them meals.

    I don’t anticipate a lot of my ideas making it through Congress though.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Homework should be abolished. I don’t take my car to a mechanic pay him then take it home and repair the car all over again. Schools are paid $15,000 to $20,000 per kid per year to teach them. So teach them. That’s your job

    It’s not the parents job to do between 6 when the parents get home and 8:30 or 9 when the kids should be in bed what should have been doing for the 6 or 7 hours they were in school.

  58. @International Jew
    @SimpleSong

    Ugh. But surely people who are averse to the gross aspect can become radiologists or anesthesiologists?

    Replies: @SimpleSong

    Radiology, yes. A very good field. Nice air conditioned room, some coffee. Anesthesiologists however get barfed on a fair bit, or gloops of snot snot at them. Covid was not kind to the anesthesiologists.

    • Agree: Dutch Boy
    • Replies: @Stan D Mute
    @SimpleSong

    You are hilarious. And anesthesia is.. well .. oddly addictive. After several dozen times being anesthetized, and after a NDE (or maybe I just fucking died and that angelic cracker bitch resurrected me in the amberlamps), I am reminded of the anesthesiologists. Those who are paid more than the surgeons, more than the hospital itself, to make sure that you have a peaceful ride.

    Ask yourself. “Self, why are anesthesiologists the highest paid medical specialty”? Self? You have an answer?

    Replies: @Jmaie, @Graham

    , @HbutnotG
    @SimpleSong

    Radiology, especially its subspecialties pays very well. Nuclear radiologists often make >$700,000 a year which is about tops for any doc. Radiology isn't for just anyone, however. Being able to make sense of exquisitely vague shadows is a inborn thing - some people just don't have it.

  59. @Colin Wright
    @JohnnyWalker123

    'I’ll solve the problem.

    -Offer more flex-time for employees...'

    Etc, etc.

    Or...

    Don't worry about it. It's only a 'problem' if you decide it is. Life will go on if the average man advances further than the average woman. It really will.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    You could do that. Though I’d say life is pretty stressful for the average American family. Especially in comparison to what exists in Western Europe.

    I like it when life is easy. Though some say difficulty builds character.

    I like work-life balance, lots of free time, and minimal anxiety. I think too much of a burden is placed on parents. It’s like you can’t even catch your breath these days.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @JohnnyWalker123

    It’s like you can’t even catch your breath these days.

    And as soon as you do, there is Jeffrey Epstein!

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

  60. @Triteleia Laxa
    It is easy for a smart and ambitious woman to combine her career with kids. She only need do exactly what men with the same desires do, and find a spouse who is less ambitious than her, and support them financially, in return for them looking after the house.

    That means sacrificing a big part of your pay cheque, and a lot of the concomitant consumerism; but there's no lack of men who will agree.

    Or, if they're exceptionally bright and ambitious, they could run their husband's concern, from home, using him like a puppet. Women have done this for millenia.

    What they can't do, is not really work and yet earn as much as someone who does. I would love that, but I would always love to have my cake and eat it.

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans, @Travis, @Dissident, @Anonymous Jew, @YetAnotherAnon

    Of the many women I’ve known who graduated from prestigious law schools, only two are practicing law, and one of them just barely.

    Although law can be very lucrative, it’s not always fun and easy.

    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
    @Hangnail Hans

    There doesn't seem to be a lack of female lawyers.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    , @ThreeCranes
    @Hangnail Hans

    And bearing in mind the truth of what you say, career counselors in the past quietly shunted young women into careers the pursuit of which wouldn't displace capable boys/men from available scholastic lab space etc, thereby maximizing the utility of our educational institutions.

    Contrary to the feminist myth, there was no hard and fast law that prevented young women from pursuing careers in professional occupations. It's just that professional counselors in the past pretty much knew the numbers and took that into account in their recommendations for appropriate careers for women.

    Feminism is a bunch of lies and distortions, straw men and wicked witch of the west women.

    "How about a little fire, scarecrow?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aopdD9Cu-So

    "Who would have thought a good little girl like you could destroy my beautiful wickedness?"

    Every man needs an Ariadne to help lead him out of the wicked snares that have been set for him by the (((women and men))) who are today trying to offer him up as a sacrifice to their Moloch God.

  61. @Buzz Mohawk

    Feminism Demands That Doctors Treat People Like Dogs
     
    Dogs don't deserve that either.

    For every dog I've owned and trained, there has been a local, male veterinarian on call. Only once did I need to take advantage of this, but it meant being able to get the guy on the phone when a dog had been hit by an SUV on an icy road, her back broken in the middle of the night. If he hadn't been there to take that call, she would have suffered until the next day.

    This crap is unfair, not only to humans but to dogs and other animals as well.

    Once I managed a group of nine employees, and one of them was a black single mom. Naturally, she couldn't work on Fridays because she couldn't get day care on that day. How about that? When I questioned her and suggested that others should not have to always work on a day everyone wanted off, she came back with questions she clearly had gotten from a lawyer. I had to back off.

    This is just more bullshit to allow women to simultaneously have children and inhabit the male, working world -- with training wheels permanently on to make things easier.

    What really sucks in this example by Steve is the impact it is now having on the work of caring for innocent dogs. Sorry, but that is how it reads. I wouldn't be surprised if half of these idiot feminists are "vegetarians" or "vegans" too.

    Replies: @Alden, @Hangnail Hans, @Alden

    One thing I have never understood about these fools always whining about day care. They don’t seem to realize that kids don’t stay 3 years old forever. They grow up. In a few years they are 7 or 8 and can come home from school fix a snack and do whatever.

    Now black kids are very different. Black parents really really don’t want their kids home alone because the kids will tear the house apart get their sister pregnant at 11 whatever.

    But other normal kids are perfectly capable of taking care of themselves.

    Other options teens . Kids in the neighborhood happy to come to your home after school watch your younger kids and make $10 an hour. A stay at home mom wants to make extra money. College student if there’s one nearby.

    Most grade schools have homework club fun fun fun computer club and other after school activities.

    Maids. Have the maid work 1-5 instead of 8-12. Order the kids not to bother her.

    Local rec center if you live in the suburbs. Ballet sports teams judo Art this and that Scouts after school.

    Kids love to be independent and macho and take care of themselves. They’re hungry and quickly progress from fixing snacks to fixing dinner. Boys love noisy motors as in washers dryers vacumms and floor buffers.

    Day care is really for unruly thuggish black kids who can’t be trusted to take a bus home from school and stay home without into getting trouble.

    If 2 lawyers or Drs can’t figure it out well, too bad.

    • Replies: @S. Anonyia
    @Alden

    Good points. Childcare during daytime hours really shouldn’t last past 3rd grade. I was earning money babysitting neighborhood kids by 12. I would also get dropped off at the mall and theater for a few hours by that age. My parents left me home alone by 8 because they trusted me to take care of my younger sibling. I knew who to call in an emergency, how to prepare simple meals, complete chores, etc.

    I actually resented even small amounts of parental involvement other than help with sports or (occasionally) homework. Spent all my time reading, playing outside, exploring, using the computer. Like you said, I wanted to feel independent.

    Nowadays my 12 year old cousin still HAS a babysitter. All of her activities are organized and structured. Her brothers had babysitters until they were 16. They live in a safer neighborhood than I did growing up, too. Those kids aren’t high achievers and have pretty poor social skills, so I’m not sure what the point of all the parental involvement/supervision is. Giving kids constant stimulation and “enrichment” is a relatively new development. Now it seems almost every educated parent is a helicopter parent.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

  62. @Buzz Mohawk

    Feminism Demands That Doctors Treat People Like Dogs
     
    Dogs don't deserve that either.

    For every dog I've owned and trained, there has been a local, male veterinarian on call. Only once did I need to take advantage of this, but it meant being able to get the guy on the phone when a dog had been hit by an SUV on an icy road, her back broken in the middle of the night. If he hadn't been there to take that call, she would have suffered until the next day.

    This crap is unfair, not only to humans but to dogs and other animals as well.

    Once I managed a group of nine employees, and one of them was a black single mom. Naturally, she couldn't work on Fridays because she couldn't get day care on that day. How about that? When I questioned her and suggested that others should not have to always work on a day everyone wanted off, she came back with questions she clearly had gotten from a lawyer. I had to back off.

    This is just more bullshit to allow women to simultaneously have children and inhabit the male, working world -- with training wheels permanently on to make things easier.

    What really sucks in this example by Steve is the impact it is now having on the work of caring for innocent dogs. Sorry, but that is how it reads. I wouldn't be surprised if half of these idiot feminists are "vegetarians" or "vegans" too.

    Replies: @Alden, @Hangnail Hans, @Alden

    Pretty much agree, though your final sentence is a bizarre non sequitur.

  63. Anonymous[194] • Disclaimer says:

    Could finance or consulting be structured more like this? If a C.E.O. is willing to trust his sick child to an on-call pediatrician, then why not let an on-call C.P.A. handle a weekend accounting question?

    Uh… because the CEO has better things to do than to sweat out an intense six month audit by a qualified psychopath working for the IRS due to hiring a weekend temp to handle accounting chores for a complex business?

    Nicholas Kristof puts the “ignorant cunt” in “stupid, ignorant cunt.”

    • Agree: Catdog
  64. Women still whining about how difficult it is to “have it all.”

  65. @JohnnyWalker123
    I'll solve the problem.

    -Offer more flex-time for employees, especially women with children.
    -More online work options (especially meetings), even if for just for a fraction of the workweek.
    -More part-time work options, including high-paying White-collar jobs.
    -Parent-Teacher conferences online or on the weekend.
    -Daycare centers that are located inside the work facility.
    -Medical&dental facilities located inside the work facility, to see the doctor&dentist at work.
    -Make it easier to see the doctor and dentist during the weekend.
    -More online options for kids when they're sick.
    -Giving kids supplements at school (Zinc, Vit C, Vit D) to minimize sick days.
    -More ready-made, cheap, easy meal options from the grocery store. Grab&go.
    -Expand school lunch to all kids (even wealthy). Also, offer healthier&better tasting options.
    -Expand school breakfast.
    -School-organized carpools (or just more buses) to get kids home. Saves mom a trip.
    -Re-integrate middle-aged moms who've been out of the workforce for years.
    -Provide time off for moms who have to leave the workforce to be caregivers.
    -Longer school days and more summer school options.
    -Getting kids to complete their homework in school (with teacher assistance), which would be really helpful to parents.
    -If kids stay late enough, school dinners can be an option.
    -Provide a stipend to older relatives (such as grandparents) to take care of kids.
    -Schools can teach kids to become more independent at an early age and to take on more chores.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Colin Wright, @Alden, @Kent Nationalist, @Bardon Kaldian, @Bill Jones, @Prof. Woland, @epochehusserl, @Jim Bob Lassiter

    Sounds miserable for children, but I suppose they are a small sacrifice on the altar of Mammon

  66. Absolutely and utterly OT, fueled by (I’ll say not what), has anyone ever seriously thought about the history of the Canary Islands?

    Does it not speak volumes for anyone who notices?

    How does one ‘overlook’ such things and subscribe to Boomerism/egalitarianism/Biblethumperism?

    Seriously guys, we have DNA. We know that there’s about 100,000 years worth of evolutionary difference. I’m not positing that we’re compatible in any way, what I’m doing is saying that if we don’t acknowledge the differences and our mutual right to exist, we are all fucked.

    At least that’s my worthless Gen-X position. Not that anyone ever gave a shit, being sandwiched between two historically large cohorts and religious mania…

  67. @Buzz Mohawk

    Feminism Demands That Doctors Treat People Like Dogs
     
    Dogs don't deserve that either.

    For every dog I've owned and trained, there has been a local, male veterinarian on call. Only once did I need to take advantage of this, but it meant being able to get the guy on the phone when a dog had been hit by an SUV on an icy road, her back broken in the middle of the night. If he hadn't been there to take that call, she would have suffered until the next day.

    This crap is unfair, not only to humans but to dogs and other animals as well.

    Once I managed a group of nine employees, and one of them was a black single mom. Naturally, she couldn't work on Fridays because she couldn't get day care on that day. How about that? When I questioned her and suggested that others should not have to always work on a day everyone wanted off, she came back with questions she clearly had gotten from a lawyer. I had to back off.

    This is just more bullshit to allow women to simultaneously have children and inhabit the male, working world -- with training wheels permanently on to make things easier.

    What really sucks in this example by Steve is the impact it is now having on the work of caring for innocent dogs. Sorry, but that is how it reads. I wouldn't be surprised if half of these idiot feminists are "vegetarians" or "vegans" too.

    Replies: @Alden, @Hangnail Hans, @Alden

    How old was the black women’s kid? And did the kid ever grow old enough to go to school and come home and stay there till Mom came home? Or did the kid stay 4 years old for the next ten years?

  68. @SimpleSong
    @International Jew

    Radiology, yes. A very good field. Nice air conditioned room, some coffee. Anesthesiologists however get barfed on a fair bit, or gloops of snot snot at them. Covid was not kind to the anesthesiologists.

    Replies: @Stan D Mute, @HbutnotG

    You are hilarious. And anesthesia is.. well .. oddly addictive. After several dozen times being anesthetized, and after a NDE (or maybe I just fucking died and that angelic cracker bitch resurrected me in the amberlamps), I am reminded of the anesthesiologists. Those who are paid more than the surgeons, more than the hospital itself, to make sure that you have a peaceful ride.

    Ask yourself. “Self, why are anesthesiologists the highest paid medical specialty”? Self? You have an answer?

    • Replies: @Jmaie
    @Stan D Mute


    Those who are paid more than the surgeons, more than the hospital itself, to make sure that you have a peaceful ride...Ask yourself. “Self, why are anesthesiologists the highest paid medical specialty”?
     
    Anesthesiologists are paid to make sure the patient is far enough under to allow surgery but not so far they don't come back. They pose the greatest risk to the hospital's insurer...

    Replies: @scrivener3

    , @Graham
    @Stan D Mute

    You really don’t want your anaesthetist to make a mistake. It will probably result in a quick journey to another world. You won’t care but your wife and kids will. Surgeons can make grievous mistakes but those are less likely to be terminal. I know this is just subjective experience, but the first time I had general anaesthetic, when I came round it felt more like I had been dead than sleeping. No dreams and no sense of time passing.

  69. @Alden
    Blah blah blah blah blah. What year is this? I believe the first draft was written in 1971. And why only worry about lawyers and accountants? Why not worry about waitresses sales clerks bus drivers and other working mothers? . As for the lawyers and accountants married to other lawyers and accounts I suppose you’ve never heard of household help? Neighbors? Baby sitters? Household help agencies? They do exist. Older children and teens? Making arrangements ahead of time?

    Lawyers only need to be in their offices for depositions and meetings any more. They can file lawsuits and responses online. And , recruit? enlist? whatever new clients by email text and phone calls. And make an appointment to meet in the office on scheduled office days.

    Back when veterinarians were all men, they usually had several vets in one clinic and were open all day Saturday and till 9 in the evenings. And they had phone book ADs. That said 24 hour emergency. So a person whose dog was hit by a car at midnight called the phone number in the AD. The answering service would take the call . Dr would call back and make arrangements to meet at the clinic.
    Nowadays that’s done by looking online for vet websites a direct call to the on call that day vet and meet vet at the clinic.

    Did it myself when 5/30 AM Bear went out for a quick pee. He decided to go after the big old nasty vicious raccoon that lived under the deck. Bear came back screeching blood flowing fractured leg. Found vet site called answering person told us to head for the clinic and she’d have someone there. We loaded 90 pound whimpering Bear into car. With kid to hold soothe and cuddle him. I and vet arrived about the same time. Gave Bear to vet. Went home kid and I got dressed fixed bagel and cream cheese Went to work Husband picked Bear up on the way home. Kids had big comfy bed arranged for him. Bear loved attention and petting.

    Liberals. Some ordinary event like a sick day, sick injured dog and they approach it with shock and awe. Like they just discovered it . And the rest of us stupid proles are so stupid we don’t even know the problem exists..

    Or 2 adults or a single parent can’t take a dog to the vet and get the parents and kids to work and school the same day.

    What a despicable helpless wimp is Kristoff.

    Replies: @photondancer, @Buffalo Joe, @Buffalo Joe, @Desiderius, @J.Ross, @Triteleia Laxa, @Days of Broken Arrows

    You’ve been on fire this week Alden! Love reading insightful comments like the way they only care about professionals like themselves, not waitresses, and act as if they had discovered mild adversity when all the rest of us have been dealing adroitly with it all our lives.

    • Replies: @Hangnail Hans
    @photondancer

    Agree about Alden. Just please everyone, let's
    try not to trigger her mkay?

  70. Oh shit!

    And I just posted on FaceBerg that I plan to let my dog have his way with my bitch. Oh no!

    I described in detail how my (nearly four year old dog) lusted after my nearly 1.5 year old bitch. How he nearly destroyed himself as a result of his fanatic pursuit of this young bitch’s eggs just six months ago.

    Oddly, I may have been shadow banned, but I still have my account despite describing all this in the most explicit biological terms. I remain certain that the very moment I expound on the fact that I look forward to English Mastiff puppies (as opposed to .. say .. Spaniel puppies .. I will be shut down).

    Bible thumping ijits aside, the majority of humans understand that we are animals and subject to the laws of Biology. As Sailer has been preaching forever, we’re most closely related to those to whom we’re most closely related (what a fucking genius Sailer is – a regular fucking Isaac Newton).

    Seriously guys. I am not exaggerating. What is going on here?

    As cynical as I try to be as a Gen-X bastard, I struggle to come up with explanations for your bullshit..

  71. @Yancey Ward
    @photondancer


    nor should partnership be a reward for stupid criteria such as ‘he puts in long hours’
     
    Isn't partnership usually given with regards to who actually brings in new clients, and keeps them?

    Replies: @photondancer

    Not according to the many comments I’ve seen over the years about people feeling obliged to work long hours to show their bosses they’re willing. Working only 40 hours a week? Poof go your chances of partnership or even promotion, apparently.

    Who knows, maybe in the end it’s just whoever the existing partners like the best.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @photondancer


    Isn’t partnership usually given with regards to who actually brings in new clients, and keeps them?
     
    The short answer is partnership goes to whomever the current partners want it to go to. When a firm is growing, that means that current partners are probably expanding their franchise by rewarding "rainmakers". Once a firm reaches BigLaw status, more of a credentialist conveyor belt can set in, where things that can be documented—advanced degrees, hours billed—move one to the front of the partnership line. (After all, lawyers understand how the employment discrimination game works, and they have to cough up some social promotions to those would have credible cases too.)

    Most students at top-tier law schools are aiming to join BigLaw firms.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    , @Alden
    @photondancer

    I have a friend She was an actress. Still gets TV residuals. Late 30s she realized acting wasn’t going to work out and started working regular jobs. She mostly worked for start ups. Company makes or breaks in the first 5 years. So she had to get a new job every few years.

    She could always tell if the HR person would call in a few days and say we’ve deduced to hire you.

    That was the point in the interview when the HR person would say “ technically hours are 8:30 to 5. But we usually stay till 7, 7:30”. “ “Would that be a problem”? And the applicant is supposed to say “ oh no!! of course not. I have no family or friends pets lovers or children . I have no other interests but work. I live in a small studio that needs little cleaning and no decorating . I live to work and love to work”

    We should work to live. And if we’re not paid enough to live and are forced to spend 40 or 55 hours a week with affirmative action scum, why work if welfare pays the same minus commuting costs..

    I believe one reason there’s not much complaining about inflation yet is that people saved and are still saving on commuting.

  72. @SimpleSong
    Most physicians are in varying degrees of 'eat what you kill' practices.

    That is, if you take out a gallbladder, you send Medicare or whatever insurer a bill, they send you a check, done. Your gender never comes up. For the most part, the way to make more money is simple: take out more gallbladders. Take more call, see more patients, etc. There is stuff around the edges you can do, sure, try to improve your payor mix, other things, but for the most part, it's just how much you want to work. While many physicians are ostensibly 'employed physicians', if you dig down you find that in reality they just get a flat percentage of what their employer bills out in their name. All the 'employer' does is handle billing paperwork, credentialing, etc. See zero patients, get zero dollars.

    The implication that there are some moustache twisting villains plotting how to pay women less is absurd. They get paid less because they work less, period.

    The issue I've seen with a number of young female physicians is they seem to think that a medical degree is a stamp that puts you in the aristocracy. They think that just by dint of having the degree they deserve to get paid handsomely, have a good life, etc.. The happiest day of their medical career is graduation day. In reality, the degree is just a certification that allows you to do a particular type of (high paying) work. If you don't actually do the work...you get nothing. It's not a license to be idle rich. It's not a marriage to Mr. Darcy. Graduation day is the beginning, not the end.

    Now to be clear I think there are actually a lot of ways in which female physicians are superior to male physicians. They are less likely to commit insurance fraud. Women have much better fine motor skills than men (notice handwriting quality in boys vs girls) so honestly I think for many types of surgeries they do a better job. Many fields that involve being naked people are more comfortable with female physicians (OB-gyn, dermatology, etc.) A lot of male physicians work themselves to exhaustion and the quality of work suffers. Disruptive physicians (a.k.a. raging assholes) are almost always males.

    On the other hand pretty much all innovation that I see tends to be driven by males (white males, in particular). In short, unlike some fields (like engineering) I don't think the women in medicine don't belong--they're perfectly good physicians, and it's good to have both. But women making less is not a problem to be solved. They work less, they make less, it's their choice.

    I mean, who is really the dummy here, the guy who will look back on his life and say I spent most of it doing manual labor in an operating room, or the person with the balanced life that makes a little less? I think the men are getting cheated here, cheated out of life...

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @HbutnotG, @BenKenobi, @Richard of Melbourne, @Anon, @Michael S, @AnotherDad, @Buffalo Joe, @Kent Nationalist, @JohnnyWalker123

    Chicks generally lack the mechanical instinct men are more likely to have. Handwriting is a form of “parroting” that is, “imitating.” Anybody can do it, boy or girl – you just have to be motivated. Elementary aged girls are just by nature “better handwriters” because they like to please the teacher to a larger degree than boys do, and since handwriting is a subjective thing to evaluate, girls make it “pretty” and teacher is pleased.

    Surgery and other doctor skills are better handled by men, although some women have a good mechanical instinct, and can perform well in these tasks.

    But women more mechanically deft? No. Watch one drive a car some time.

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @HbutnotG

    Statistically, sure.

    But does anyone seriously think that Hegel, Henri Poincare (who couldn't tie his shoelaces), Heidegger or Proust were "mechanically capable"?

    C'mon ....

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @HbutnotG

    , @Alden
    @HbutnotG

    Handwriting has not been taught in American public schools for at least 25 years.

  73. @SimpleSong
    Most physicians are in varying degrees of 'eat what you kill' practices.

    That is, if you take out a gallbladder, you send Medicare or whatever insurer a bill, they send you a check, done. Your gender never comes up. For the most part, the way to make more money is simple: take out more gallbladders. Take more call, see more patients, etc. There is stuff around the edges you can do, sure, try to improve your payor mix, other things, but for the most part, it's just how much you want to work. While many physicians are ostensibly 'employed physicians', if you dig down you find that in reality they just get a flat percentage of what their employer bills out in their name. All the 'employer' does is handle billing paperwork, credentialing, etc. See zero patients, get zero dollars.

    The implication that there are some moustache twisting villains plotting how to pay women less is absurd. They get paid less because they work less, period.

    The issue I've seen with a number of young female physicians is they seem to think that a medical degree is a stamp that puts you in the aristocracy. They think that just by dint of having the degree they deserve to get paid handsomely, have a good life, etc.. The happiest day of their medical career is graduation day. In reality, the degree is just a certification that allows you to do a particular type of (high paying) work. If you don't actually do the work...you get nothing. It's not a license to be idle rich. It's not a marriage to Mr. Darcy. Graduation day is the beginning, not the end.

    Now to be clear I think there are actually a lot of ways in which female physicians are superior to male physicians. They are less likely to commit insurance fraud. Women have much better fine motor skills than men (notice handwriting quality in boys vs girls) so honestly I think for many types of surgeries they do a better job. Many fields that involve being naked people are more comfortable with female physicians (OB-gyn, dermatology, etc.) A lot of male physicians work themselves to exhaustion and the quality of work suffers. Disruptive physicians (a.k.a. raging assholes) are almost always males.

    On the other hand pretty much all innovation that I see tends to be driven by males (white males, in particular). In short, unlike some fields (like engineering) I don't think the women in medicine don't belong--they're perfectly good physicians, and it's good to have both. But women making less is not a problem to be solved. They work less, they make less, it's their choice.

    I mean, who is really the dummy here, the guy who will look back on his life and say I spent most of it doing manual labor in an operating room, or the person with the balanced life that makes a little less? I think the men are getting cheated here, cheated out of life...

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @HbutnotG, @BenKenobi, @Richard of Melbourne, @Anon, @Michael S, @AnotherDad, @Buffalo Joe, @Kent Nationalist, @JohnnyWalker123

    notice handwriting quality in boys vs girls

    At least until those girls go on to become doctors.

    But perhaps the handwriting quality comes down to brain type?

    “The letters are legible. It’s good enough.”

    “I want my letters to be pretty.”

  74. @SimpleSong
    @International Jew

    Radiology, yes. A very good field. Nice air conditioned room, some coffee. Anesthesiologists however get barfed on a fair bit, or gloops of snot snot at them. Covid was not kind to the anesthesiologists.

    Replies: @Stan D Mute, @HbutnotG

    Radiology, especially its subspecialties pays very well. Nuclear radiologists often make >$700,000 a year which is about tops for any doc. Radiology isn’t for just anyone, however. Being able to make sense of exquisitely vague shadows is a inborn thing – some people just don’t have it.

  75. @SimpleSong
    Most physicians are in varying degrees of 'eat what you kill' practices.

    That is, if you take out a gallbladder, you send Medicare or whatever insurer a bill, they send you a check, done. Your gender never comes up. For the most part, the way to make more money is simple: take out more gallbladders. Take more call, see more patients, etc. There is stuff around the edges you can do, sure, try to improve your payor mix, other things, but for the most part, it's just how much you want to work. While many physicians are ostensibly 'employed physicians', if you dig down you find that in reality they just get a flat percentage of what their employer bills out in their name. All the 'employer' does is handle billing paperwork, credentialing, etc. See zero patients, get zero dollars.

    The implication that there are some moustache twisting villains plotting how to pay women less is absurd. They get paid less because they work less, period.

    The issue I've seen with a number of young female physicians is they seem to think that a medical degree is a stamp that puts you in the aristocracy. They think that just by dint of having the degree they deserve to get paid handsomely, have a good life, etc.. The happiest day of their medical career is graduation day. In reality, the degree is just a certification that allows you to do a particular type of (high paying) work. If you don't actually do the work...you get nothing. It's not a license to be idle rich. It's not a marriage to Mr. Darcy. Graduation day is the beginning, not the end.

    Now to be clear I think there are actually a lot of ways in which female physicians are superior to male physicians. They are less likely to commit insurance fraud. Women have much better fine motor skills than men (notice handwriting quality in boys vs girls) so honestly I think for many types of surgeries they do a better job. Many fields that involve being naked people are more comfortable with female physicians (OB-gyn, dermatology, etc.) A lot of male physicians work themselves to exhaustion and the quality of work suffers. Disruptive physicians (a.k.a. raging assholes) are almost always males.

    On the other hand pretty much all innovation that I see tends to be driven by males (white males, in particular). In short, unlike some fields (like engineering) I don't think the women in medicine don't belong--they're perfectly good physicians, and it's good to have both. But women making less is not a problem to be solved. They work less, they make less, it's their choice.

    I mean, who is really the dummy here, the guy who will look back on his life and say I spent most of it doing manual labor in an operating room, or the person with the balanced life that makes a little less? I think the men are getting cheated here, cheated out of life...

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @HbutnotG, @BenKenobi, @Richard of Melbourne, @Anon, @Michael S, @AnotherDad, @Buffalo Joe, @Kent Nationalist, @JohnnyWalker123

    On the other hand pretty much all innovation that I see tends to be driven by males …

    A point that Germaine Greer, no less, agreed with in the following terms (I quote from memory):

    “If it weren’t for men we would all still be living in grass huts.”

    • Replies: @photondancer
    @Richard of Melbourne

    Camille Paglia, whose feminist credentials are debatable.

    Replies: @Richard of Melbourne

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Richard of Melbourne


    “If it weren’t for men we would all still be living in grass huts.”
     
    "But with really nice window treatments."
    , @Jmaie
    @Richard of Melbourne


    A point that Germaine Greer, no less, agreed with in the following terms (I quote from memory):

    “If it weren’t for men we would all still be living in grass huts.”
     
    To paraphrase Fred Reed, civilization without men would last just until the first oil change was needed.
    , @Culpeper
    @Richard of Melbourne

    The Germain one is not witty enough for that wrongly attributed quip.. Camille Anna Paglia coined that insight and another, being more to the point, " Modern feminism, which she writes, "has become a catchall vegetable drawer where bunches of clingy sob sisters can store their moldy neuroses", Free Women, Free men: Sex, Gender, and Feminism,. Pantheon 2017. also posing a question of the Academic left as allowing speech codes that amount to "the grotesque surveillance of campus and student life".

  76. The veterinary world imagined is that of “Rover” and other small animals. Where are the legions of women available to deal with the calving problem at 0300 on Sunday, &c?

    • Agree: donut
    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Cortes

    There was a good comment thread on veterinarians at iSteve a few years ago where a consensus emerged that dependable large animal veterinarians (i.e., the actual, foundational, economically important function of veterinarians) are almost entirely men, that they are dying off, and the turnover of younger women in that trade is very high (most of them probably downshifting to easier pet work.)

    Replies: @Kent Nationalist, @Almost Missouri, @HFR

    , @Alden
    @Cortes

    The dairy cow farmers take care of the births. If there’s a problem the farmer just grabs and pulls the calf out dead or alive. My brother’s never had a vet at calving time. No reason. The beef cows have the calves out in the fields. I think the only farm animals that have vets in attendance are the mares at the breeding farms for ultra expensive horses.

    The big thing that keeps new comers going into large animal practice is the expense. They use fitted out huge trucks that are a mobile clinic. With all the equipment. Cost more than a million dollars Add that to the cost of 8 years college. Takes a life time of work to pay it all off. And of course the mobile clinic needs replacing at least once in a 40 year career .

    Most stock farmers can take care of most medical needs. And if they can’t? Call the knackers. That’s where Burger King and MacDonald’s hamburger meat comes from. Dairy and beef cows too old to produce milk and calves. .

    Replies: @Cortes, @Jimbo

  77. @Yancey Ward
    @Barack Obama's secret Unz account

    I was wondering the same thing. What the f**k does a graduate degree have to do with a journalist covering a coup?

    Replies: @Barack Obama's secret Unz account, @James J O'Meara

    It’s a meritocracy. (Merit meaning good grades at school.)

  78. @Elli
    OT: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/morocco-e2-80-98weaponized-e2-80-99-migration-to-punish-spain-that-e2-80-99s-more-common-than-you-think/ar-AAKABx5

    Amazingly this is from a WaPo writer:


    Morocco ‘weaponized’ migration to punish Spain. That’s more common than you think.


    On May 17, more than 6,000 people swam, floated or scaled a pair of 32-foot-high border fences to cross from Morocco into neighboring Ceuta, an eight-square-mile Spanish-owned city on Africa’s northern coast. Critically for those seeking to enter, Ceuta is inside European Union territory. According to Spanish authorities, it was the largest single-day influx of unregulated migrants in the country’s history. At least 2,000 more followed the next day.

    This wasn’t an accident. Apparently, Morocco engineered this mass cross-border movement to punish and coerce Spain. Video footage appeared to show Moroccan border guards opening fences to the Spanish enclave and allowing people through.

    Nor was this unusual. Strategically engineered migration is far more common than most people realize. At any given time, somewhere in the world, leaders inside or outside governments are likely manipulating migrants and/or refugees to pursue political, military or economic objectives.
     

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Fluesterwitz, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Nicholas Stix, @Getaclue

    A current application of the ‘human wave’ tactic.

  79. If a C.E.O. is willing to trust his sick child to an on-call pediatrician, then why not let an on-call C.P.A. handle a weekend accounting question?

    My nomination for non sequitur of the week.

    OK, maybe he’s being slightly tongue-in-cheek (though I am not sure that today’s earnest white liberals are capable of that), but it really shows how foreign the concept of what it means to manage a business, indeed the whole idea of the private sector, is to him.

    • Replies: @photondancer
    @EdwardM

    Perhaps you could expand your comment a bit. Why is it automatically stupid and/or unworkable? How is an accountant more private sector than a pediatrician? If your objection is that an accountant shouldn't work weekends, why not when so many others do?

    Replies: @EdwardM, @Almost Missouri

  80. In your headline: Nicholas Kristof.

  81. @Alden
    @photondancer

    It’s not like a busy hospital major emergency room with a veterinarian there all not. If a pet needs treatment, make a call and the on call vet meets you there. And most of the people who work in the vets office aren’t vets anyway. Nurses can’t prescribe medicine for people. But any assistant can take care of pets unless they need surgery.

    Replies: @photondancer

    It sounds like it works that way where you live. In Sydney, not so much. Maybe there are vets who offer this service but I know mine doesn’t. If my pet needs urgent help out of office hours I have to take her to an emergency service and there’s only a handful of them for the entire city.

  82. @EdwardM

    If a C.E.O. is willing to trust his sick child to an on-call pediatrician, then why not let an on-call C.P.A. handle a weekend accounting question?
     
    My nomination for non sequitur of the week.

    OK, maybe he's being slightly tongue-in-cheek (though I am not sure that today's earnest white liberals are capable of that), but it really shows how foreign the concept of what it means to manage a business, indeed the whole idea of the private sector, is to him.

    Replies: @photondancer

    Perhaps you could expand your comment a bit. Why is it automatically stupid and/or unworkable? How is an accountant more private sector than a pediatrician? If your objection is that an accountant shouldn’t work weekends, why not when so many others do?

    • Replies: @EdwardM
    @photondancer

    If a CEO has an accounting question, he calls his CFO, who is just as much of a full-time professional, embedded in the company, as the CEO himself.

    It's not a one-time transaction like an emergency visit to a pediatrician or veteranarian.

    Replies: @photondancer

    , @Almost Missouri
    @photondancer

    Speaking from my own experience:

    1) Important accountants with important clients already do work weekends. Kristof, being an out-of-touch journo sh*tlib, assumes everyone else shares his comfy overpaid 9-5 worklife.

    2) If it is not an important "weekend accounting question", there is already an on-call accounting associate to handle it. Kristof, being an out-of-touch journo sh*tlib, apparently doesn't know this.

    Are there jurisdictions somewhere on earth where accountants are prohibited from working on weekends but pediatricians are not? If so, perhaps Kristof could name them and suggest they adopt his plan.

  83. @Richard of Melbourne
    @SimpleSong

    On the other hand pretty much all innovation that I see tends to be driven by males ...

    A point that Germaine Greer, no less, agreed with in the following terms (I quote from memory):

    "If it weren't for men we would all still be living in grass huts."

    Replies: @photondancer, @Almost Missouri, @Jmaie, @Culpeper

    Camille Paglia, whose feminist credentials are debatable.

    • Replies: @Richard of Melbourne
    @photondancer

    I stand corrected.

    The actual quote - from Paglia - is:

    "If civilization had been left in female hands, we would still be living in grass huts."

  84. @JohnnyWalker123
    I'll solve the problem.

    -Offer more flex-time for employees, especially women with children.
    -More online work options (especially meetings), even if for just for a fraction of the workweek.
    -More part-time work options, including high-paying White-collar jobs.
    -Parent-Teacher conferences online or on the weekend.
    -Daycare centers that are located inside the work facility.
    -Medical&dental facilities located inside the work facility, to see the doctor&dentist at work.
    -Make it easier to see the doctor and dentist during the weekend.
    -More online options for kids when they're sick.
    -Giving kids supplements at school (Zinc, Vit C, Vit D) to minimize sick days.
    -More ready-made, cheap, easy meal options from the grocery store. Grab&go.
    -Expand school lunch to all kids (even wealthy). Also, offer healthier&better tasting options.
    -Expand school breakfast.
    -School-organized carpools (or just more buses) to get kids home. Saves mom a trip.
    -Re-integrate middle-aged moms who've been out of the workforce for years.
    -Provide time off for moms who have to leave the workforce to be caregivers.
    -Longer school days and more summer school options.
    -Getting kids to complete their homework in school (with teacher assistance), which would be really helpful to parents.
    -If kids stay late enough, school dinners can be an option.
    -Provide a stipend to older relatives (such as grandparents) to take care of kids.
    -Schools can teach kids to become more independent at an early age and to take on more chores.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Colin Wright, @Alden, @Kent Nationalist, @Bardon Kaldian, @Bill Jones, @Prof. Woland, @epochehusserl, @Jim Bob Lassiter

    Perhaps 30-50% of your proposals I’ve been preaching for years, but nobody would listen. As for the rest, they sound good as a blueprint, but I haven’t formed the opinion, yet.

  85. @Hangnail Hans
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Of the many women I've known who graduated from prestigious law schools, only two are practicing law, and one of them just barely.

    Although law can be very lucrative, it's not always fun and easy.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @ThreeCranes

    There doesn’t seem to be a lack of female lawyers.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Once they find out what a grind life at a big firm is, they usually downshift to a corporate law department, or go into their own private practice, often specializing in "marital and family law" (i.e., divorce and family destruction law: one of the peculiar blessings that the feminization of the professions has wrought for us).

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Hangnail Hans

  86. Well… if you live primarily to work & to possess material things, then you don’t live at all.
    Only true vocation excepted (vocation- being called by your god).

    Goes for both sexes.

  87. Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that veterinarianism became a chick thing as insurance pushed up the prices, triggering more corporatism, easier money, and better hours, i.e. when it became easy for vets to be free-riders rather than entrepreneurs?

  88. @photondancer
    @EdwardM

    Perhaps you could expand your comment a bit. Why is it automatically stupid and/or unworkable? How is an accountant more private sector than a pediatrician? If your objection is that an accountant shouldn't work weekends, why not when so many others do?

    Replies: @EdwardM, @Almost Missouri

    If a CEO has an accounting question, he calls his CFO, who is just as much of a full-time professional, embedded in the company, as the CEO himself.

    It’s not a one-time transaction like an emergency visit to a pediatrician or veteranarian.

    • Replies: @photondancer
    @EdwardM

    Yes, I know. The CEO example isn't a very good choice on Kristof's part, since a CEO wouldn't be asking routine accounting questions. My questions were aimed at seeing if the analogy still holds for more ordinary people. The article, incidentally, doesn't say 'emergency'.

    Replies: @EdwardM

  89. @photondancer
    @Yancey Ward

    Not according to the many comments I've seen over the years about people feeling obliged to work long hours to show their bosses they're willing. Working only 40 hours a week? Poof go your chances of partnership or even promotion, apparently.

    Who knows, maybe in the end it's just whoever the existing partners like the best.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Alden

    Isn’t partnership usually given with regards to who actually brings in new clients, and keeps them?

    The short answer is partnership goes to whomever the current partners want it to go to. When a firm is growing, that means that current partners are probably expanding their franchise by rewarding “rainmakers”. Once a firm reaches BigLaw status, more of a credentialist conveyor belt can set in, where things that can be documented—advanced degrees, hours billed—move one to the front of the partnership line. (After all, lawyers understand how the employment discrimination game works, and they have to cough up some social promotions to those would have credible cases too.)

    Most students at top-tier law schools are aiming to join BigLaw firms.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Almost Missouri

    Top. Men.

  90. @Cortes
    The veterinary world imagined is that of “Rover” and other small animals. Where are the legions of women available to deal with the calving problem at 0300 on Sunday, &c?

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Alden

    There was a good comment thread on veterinarians at iSteve a few years ago where a consensus emerged that dependable large animal veterinarians (i.e., the actual, foundational, economically important function of veterinarians) are almost entirely men, that they are dying off, and the turnover of younger women in that trade is very high (most of them probably downshifting to easier pet work.)

    • Replies: @Kent Nationalist
    @Almost Missouri

    The vet sector (in Britain at least) is being taken over by private equity firms buying up partnerships from retiring vets (usually men) and replacing them with young women hired as salaried employees.

    Replies: @James Speaks

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Almost Missouri

    Come to think of it, there was a good thread here[?] some years ago about why there are so many lady pharmacists, and why they are above-average looking.

    As usual, whatever the NYT purports to cover has already been covered much better years before in iSteve and comments.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    , @HFR
    @Almost Missouri

    I'm sure you're right that most large-animal vets are men. But, not all. For a number of years, my husband and I have watched a NatGeoWild show called "Dr. Oakley, Yukon Vet." Michelle Oakley has been practicing for 20 or so years and treats everything from bison to deer to cattle to turtles. Many of her colleagues are women. She performs a lot of castrations. My husband stopped flinching during the third season and we joke that by now we could probably perform this procedure ourselves.

  91. Why are they so concerned with problems of the 1%?

    Seriously. The Baronesses and Ladies of the realm riling up the distaff peasants to help them displace Barons and Lords? That would be pretty damned insulting if it didn’t seem to work, Who buys this BS?

  92. @Almost Missouri
    @Cortes

    There was a good comment thread on veterinarians at iSteve a few years ago where a consensus emerged that dependable large animal veterinarians (i.e., the actual, foundational, economically important function of veterinarians) are almost entirely men, that they are dying off, and the turnover of younger women in that trade is very high (most of them probably downshifting to easier pet work.)

    Replies: @Kent Nationalist, @Almost Missouri, @HFR

    The vet sector (in Britain at least) is being taken over by private equity firms buying up partnerships from retiring vets (usually men) and replacing them with young women hired as salaried employees.

    • Replies: @James Speaks
    @Kent Nationalist

    All Creatures Cute and Small

  93. @HbutnotG
    @SimpleSong

    Chicks generally lack the mechanical instinct men are more likely to have. Handwriting is a form of "parroting" that is, "imitating." Anybody can do it, boy or girl - you just have to be motivated. Elementary aged girls are just by nature "better handwriters" because they like to please the teacher to a larger degree than boys do, and since handwriting is a subjective thing to evaluate, girls make it "pretty" and teacher is pleased.

    Surgery and other doctor skills are better handled by men, although some women have a good mechanical instinct, and can perform well in these tasks.

    But women more mechanically deft? No. Watch one drive a car some time.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Alden

    Statistically, sure.

    But does anyone seriously think that Hegel, Henri Poincare (who couldn’t tie his shoelaces), Heidegger or Proust were “mechanically capable”?

    C’mon ….

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Martin Heidegger actually liked it to work with his hands - like chopping wood and - mow grass and such things.
    There is a photo of him outside his hut near Todtmoos in the Balck Forest showing him chopping wood in a workman's clothes. He often went inot the woodss in autumn to collect red- and blueberries.
    He did build a small tennis court for his sons too.

    https://www.nzz.ch/feuilleton/nachrichten-aus-dem-topinambur-land-1.18628696

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    , @HbutnotG
    @Bardon Kaldian

    A mechanical instinct (which is what I'm referring to) is the ability, without someone repeatedly instructing you) to figure out how a device works. The accelerator in a car is a classic example.

    Chicks are not born with the concept of a rheostat installed in their cerebrum. Many men are. To test this, sit in the front passenger seat of a car driven by a man (over 60) and then with a woman (any woman). You'll get carsick from the acceleration/deceleration you experience in the car driven by the woman (or a young guy who was taught how to drive by a woman). That's because with women, its all the way down or all the way up. To them, the accelerator has two settings: on & off. Men realize that a device like that obviously is variable. They're born that way. Even homos.

    That's a mechanical instinct. Oh, a few dames do have one. My cousin Kathy knew what a spanner wrench was and how it works when she was 6. But that's unusual.

  94. @Michael S
    No one believes in the mythical "gender pay gap" anymore, not even the most devout shitlibs. And in any event, I am reliably informed that male and female are just arbitrary labels; can't these women just choose to identify as men and reap the benefits of those 28 cents?

    No prizes for guessing whether or not the whamen being interviewed is childless, unmarried or married to a sad omega, and rates about a 2 to 4.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Desiderius, @Bardon Kaldian, @peterike

    Nick does. He’s got a big religion-sized hole that he keeps trying to fill with whatever the latest party line is.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @Desiderius

    Desiderius - we discussed emotions and societal development a few days back and here is a study looking into this subject - I found it interesting

    https://osf.io/hukwr/

    onclusion

    This chapter explored the inextricable links between emotions and status hierarchies. The ubiquity of status hierarchies and fitness-relevance of status suggest that humans should possess

    EMOTIONS AND STATUS HIERARCHIES

    14 psychological adaptations—such as emotions—for navigating hierarchies. To identify and understand these emotional adaptations, it will be helpful to fully map the numerous and specific adaptive challenges posed by life in hierarchically organized social groups and detail the subtasks required to overcome them.This endeavor has the potential to not only improve our understanding of emotions, but also to reveal how broad patterns of individual and cultural variation may arise from species-typical adaptations for navigating the adaptive challenges posed by status hierarchies.

  95. @Almost Missouri
    @photondancer


    Isn’t partnership usually given with regards to who actually brings in new clients, and keeps them?
     
    The short answer is partnership goes to whomever the current partners want it to go to. When a firm is growing, that means that current partners are probably expanding their franchise by rewarding "rainmakers". Once a firm reaches BigLaw status, more of a credentialist conveyor belt can set in, where things that can be documented—advanced degrees, hours billed—move one to the front of the partnership line. (After all, lawyers understand how the employment discrimination game works, and they have to cough up some social promotions to those would have credible cases too.)

    Most students at top-tier law schools are aiming to join BigLaw firms.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    Top. Men.

  96. @photondancer
    @EdwardM

    Perhaps you could expand your comment a bit. Why is it automatically stupid and/or unworkable? How is an accountant more private sector than a pediatrician? If your objection is that an accountant shouldn't work weekends, why not when so many others do?

    Replies: @EdwardM, @Almost Missouri

    Speaking from my own experience:

    1) Important accountants with important clients already do work weekends. Kristof, being an out-of-touch journo sh*tlib, assumes everyone else shares his comfy overpaid 9-5 worklife.

    2) If it is not an important “weekend accounting question”, there is already an on-call accounting associate to handle it. Kristof, being an out-of-touch journo sh*tlib, apparently doesn’t know this.

    Are there jurisdictions somewhere on earth where accountants are prohibited from working on weekends but pediatricians are not? If so, perhaps Kristof could name them and suggest they adopt his plan.

    • Agree: Catdog
  97. @Colin Wright
    There remains the point that women are just less aggressively competitive.

    Women want everyone in the room to be happy. Men want to be the winner.

    This isn't good or bad. It's just the way it is. Alpha males are going to tend to climb to the top of the heap.

    Replies: @donut, @Spangel223, @Flip

    “There remains the point that women are just less aggressively competitive.”
    That’s bullshit . I don’t care about your studies I worked with them . 8 years at sea in the navy and 12 in the Merchant Marine only a few women on ships . Then 20 years as a nurse all women . They’ll stab each other in the back just to keep in form .
    “Women want everyone in the room to be happy.” LOL , another BS myth that some academic dreamed up and got published .
    In the end what you have at the top is a mix of the decent and competent mixed with the vicious and often incompetent about the same as in a male dominated organization .

  98. @Buffalo Joe
    If women are getting paid 82 cents on the dollar they must be being paid in Canadian dollars. And, how come none of the underpaid women worker stories mention that women teachers make as much as male teachers, are big in teachers' unions and are plentiful as principals and school superintendents.

    Replies: @Pericles

    Dey be equivalents! Only equivalents! Women only compare to men at same step of ladder!

    Nice little trick, can be combined with many other tricks such as “why are there so few female X” to paint the desired image of injustice.

  99. @Richard of Melbourne
    @SimpleSong

    On the other hand pretty much all innovation that I see tends to be driven by males ...

    A point that Germaine Greer, no less, agreed with in the following terms (I quote from memory):

    "If it weren't for men we would all still be living in grass huts."

    Replies: @photondancer, @Almost Missouri, @Jmaie, @Culpeper

    “If it weren’t for men we would all still be living in grass huts.”

    “But with really nice window treatments.”

  100. @Triteleia Laxa
    @Hangnail Hans

    There doesn't seem to be a lack of female lawyers.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    Once they find out what a grind life at a big firm is, they usually downshift to a corporate law department, or go into their own private practice, often specializing in “marital and family law” (i.e., divorce and family destruction law: one of the peculiar blessings that the feminization of the professions has wrought for us).

    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
    @Almost Missouri

    They sound sensible. A retired Managing Partner of Simmons & Simmons once told me that you used to be able to relax once you reached Partner, but now the ridiculous grind continues. He added that he would have spun himself off in a different direction, had it been the same for him.

    Computers and emails are great tools, but they have also enabled the emergence of all sorts of totally meaningless and unproductive nonsense.

    Replies: @scrivener3

    , @Hangnail Hans
    @Almost Missouri

    Yeah, the one who is "barely practicing" is in-house counsel for an institution. She's paid very very well but gets to go home every day at 5. Twice a year she has to travel.

    She's infinitely happier than when she was partner at a law firm.

  101. My sister’s best friend in HS went to Ohio State from the DC area to become a vet, until she discovered it meant putting her arm up cows’ butts a lot, so she became a people doctor instead (at least that’s what I heard–it may have been the money). She had wanted to be a pet vet.

    • Replies: @Culpeper
    @Ralph L

    A "here, pussy-pussy" nurse.?

  102. @Anon
    You know what Female Vets do to get that Much Needed Family Time?
    Murder your Pet. All female staff euthanized my animal without my knowledge or consent. Illegal as hell. When I asked 'Would you euthanize a human with that condition?' I got a bunch of stupid blank looks. A mixture of ignorant stupidity along with malicious evil (under the guise of relieving suffering) is a nasty combination

    Replies: @Desiderius

    malicious evil (under the guise of relieving suffering)

    Apathy = fear of suffering

    Literally it means not suffering. Sympathy means suffering together, so if you’re afraid of all suffering you never get to the together part.

  103. The thing that strikes me about pieces like this is how the “problem” they identify is something that 95% or more of American households cannot relate to at all. The number of relationships in which both members are working towards elite occupations like partner at law firms, medicine, business or whatever is tiny. Obviously these are situations that to the extent they exist at all are more prevalent in New York where the Times and a slew of magazines are headquartered, but the bigger problem for most families is that both parents have to work just to afford a decent lifestyle these days in the first place.

    • Replies: @additionalMike
    @Arclight

    NY Times readers are not interested in the problems of Deplorables.

  104. These people are very sad if they think it is more important to get to the top of the corporate ladder and have big cars and houses than to enjoy family life.

    Children are only young once and they grow up very quickly.

    I note that Prince Harry and the Duchess of Sussex are BOTH taking 20 weeks paternity/maternity leave from their important jobs creating content for tabloids so that they can wash organic diapers by hand, breastfeed, and build benches.

    Good for them. They are the benchmark for us all. They may never make full partner in their line of business, but they treat their children like royalty all the same.

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • LOL: Kylie
    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Jonathan Mason

    I note that Prince Harry and the Duchess of Sussex are BOTH taking 20 weeks paternity/maternity leave from their important jobs creating content for tabloids so that they can wash organic diapers by hand, breastfeed, and build benches.

    Harry and Meg is why governesses were created. The less their children see of them, the better off they'll be.

  105. @Colin Wright
    There remains the point that women are just less aggressively competitive.

    Women want everyone in the room to be happy. Men want to be the winner.

    This isn't good or bad. It's just the way it is. Alpha males are going to tend to climb to the top of the heap.

    Replies: @donut, @Spangel223, @Flip

    I think you’re right. While the assumption is that women are less likely to become executives than men because of child rearing obligations, my observation is that this is a minor factor. Looks to me like young women (interns or recent grads) seem full of career ambition in terms of their personas and about ten years into the workforce or sooner, this kind of energy is very rare in women while it matures in men. Childless or not, I see almost no women over 35 with authentic psychological investment in their career advancement, regardless of whether or not they have children and regardless of how successful they were before.

    Basically at some point in their thirties, women simply lose interest in climbing the career ladder regardless of their personal circumstances. And as opposed to the assumption that it is because of motherhood, I’ve seen exactly the opposite. From what I’ve seen in our present generation, it is mainly women with at least one child who maintain even a superficial interest in advancing their corporate careers past their thirties because these women with children have financial goals related to those children such as paying for their college education or sending them to private school. Childless women of the same age tend to become more invested in personal projects that don’t usually pay well.

    This is not the case for men. It is common for men in their thirties and older to be actively trying to network to find opportunities in high potential companies that they will have partial ownership in. It’s also common for them to pursue ideas for start ups because they hope they will be lucrative. 40 year olds women simply don’t sit there thinking about how they can co-found a company they can cash out on for millions of dollars. How many 4o year old men ponder the same? A whole darn lot.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Spangel223

    '...This is not the case for men. It is common for men in their thirties and older to be actively trying to network to find opportunities in high potential companies that they will have partial ownership in...'

    Indeed. Just going by myself, I think men are compulsively competitive to a degree that women aren't. I'm retired, and with about a million and a half in assets, my wife and I can have just about whatever we could reasonably want.

    ...yet I feel that somehow, I should have made even more. I would feel like more of a success if only I'd piled up five million instead...and obviously, if I had five million, I'd feel like I should have accumulated twenty million.

    Do women think this way to the same extent? I'm skeptical.

    Another major distinction is that just in conversation, men compete, while women strive to reach a consensus.

    I've had too many internet arguments with other men that aren't too far from 'Bullshit! Obviously three and two don't make five! I just showed you that it's two and three that make five!'

    With women though -- and I have heard literally close to this with my wife -- it tends to go more like this. 'I think blacks were happier when they were slaves'/'Ummm...they should be given more employment opportunities.'

    They will proceed on the premise that, really, they agree even when they clearly don't. With men, it's just the opposite. They'll engage in ferocious dominance displays even when nothing substantial is in dispute at all.

    I wouldn't trust my wife to intelligently decide on what air conditioning system to put into our house. On the other hand, back in the day, when I had a moving customer that I could tell was getting unhappy (usually about something I had nothing to do with) I'd get my wife to go talk her down out of the tree. Not a good idea for me to try it.

    Mens and womens just be different. It's not that one is better than the other. It's just that they're different.

  106. Anon[280] • Disclaimer says:
    @SimpleSong
    Most physicians are in varying degrees of 'eat what you kill' practices.

    That is, if you take out a gallbladder, you send Medicare or whatever insurer a bill, they send you a check, done. Your gender never comes up. For the most part, the way to make more money is simple: take out more gallbladders. Take more call, see more patients, etc. There is stuff around the edges you can do, sure, try to improve your payor mix, other things, but for the most part, it's just how much you want to work. While many physicians are ostensibly 'employed physicians', if you dig down you find that in reality they just get a flat percentage of what their employer bills out in their name. All the 'employer' does is handle billing paperwork, credentialing, etc. See zero patients, get zero dollars.

    The implication that there are some moustache twisting villains plotting how to pay women less is absurd. They get paid less because they work less, period.

    The issue I've seen with a number of young female physicians is they seem to think that a medical degree is a stamp that puts you in the aristocracy. They think that just by dint of having the degree they deserve to get paid handsomely, have a good life, etc.. The happiest day of their medical career is graduation day. In reality, the degree is just a certification that allows you to do a particular type of (high paying) work. If you don't actually do the work...you get nothing. It's not a license to be idle rich. It's not a marriage to Mr. Darcy. Graduation day is the beginning, not the end.

    Now to be clear I think there are actually a lot of ways in which female physicians are superior to male physicians. They are less likely to commit insurance fraud. Women have much better fine motor skills than men (notice handwriting quality in boys vs girls) so honestly I think for many types of surgeries they do a better job. Many fields that involve being naked people are more comfortable with female physicians (OB-gyn, dermatology, etc.) A lot of male physicians work themselves to exhaustion and the quality of work suffers. Disruptive physicians (a.k.a. raging assholes) are almost always males.

    On the other hand pretty much all innovation that I see tends to be driven by males (white males, in particular). In short, unlike some fields (like engineering) I don't think the women in medicine don't belong--they're perfectly good physicians, and it's good to have both. But women making less is not a problem to be solved. They work less, they make less, it's their choice.

    I mean, who is really the dummy here, the guy who will look back on his life and say I spent most of it doing manual labor in an operating room, or the person with the balanced life that makes a little less? I think the men are getting cheated here, cheated out of life...

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @HbutnotG, @BenKenobi, @Richard of Melbourne, @Anon, @Michael S, @AnotherDad, @Buffalo Joe, @Kent Nationalist, @JohnnyWalker123

    Women have much better fine motor skills than men (notice handwriting quality in boys vs girls) so honestly I think for many types of surgeries they do a better job.

    I’m sure that there are things that women are better at then men, but two of them have recently been disproven.

    First: The idea that women read faces better is widely held. Thus, in Israel, female security people predominate at the entrance to and in scanning lines of people in airports. Women will speak to what appear to be random travellers, in order to further check on suspicions. Although there may be places in this process that women are better than men at, to the extent that researchers have been able to cut the process into tasks that can be tested, it appears to be a myth. For instance, in controlled tests involving showing photographs of faces women perform no better than men.

    Secondly: You mentioned Steven Pinker’s favorite example, fine motor skills. And then you extrapolated to surgery. There is a body of research on fine motor skills. Women are better than men … ceteris paribus. But men and women are equal when the research controls for hand and finger size. This was a funny, duh, sort of finding when it first came to light. Why didn’t anyone think of controlling for hand size before? By the way, this finding is decades old, and Steven Pinker was in kindergarten at the time. I exaggerate, but for example here’s a paper from 30 years ago:

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2307635/

    Pinker’s sister Susan Pinker wrote a book on how the sexes differ, and that’s where he got it from, I think. So this book from 2008 contained information that had already been falsified. These kind of cool, just-so-story findings never die.

    I also dispute the handwriting claim. As someone who can handwrite, and who went to elementary school when handwriting was taught, and who had a fifth grade male teacher who really emphasized it, I lived through the golden age of handwriting. And it comes down to practice: Girls just practiced more than boys. They tried out all kinds of variations. They constantly sent people cute little notes. They wrote a lot of stuff. Boys did the minimum. In junior high I managed to take drafting instead of the more boy-oriented shop classes. Do you know who had better handwriting than girls? Pre-computer male draftsmen and architects: they practiced more than schoolgirls.

    As an adult I felt that my handwriting was deteriorating, and this was a hassle when filling out forms, pre internet. So I looked around for a book to use. There really wasn’t anything for adults, but I found the Better Handwriting entry in the Teach Yourself series. It had me putting in a small amount of daily practice (after determining the best type of pen and substrate for me personally). Loops, zig zags, trying to keep them consistent across the line, lines full of u’s and m’s. I was surprised how fast progress came. This is what girls did back in the day, daily practice, doodling words rather than race cars and rocketships.

  107. @Elli
    OT: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/morocco-e2-80-98weaponized-e2-80-99-migration-to-punish-spain-that-e2-80-99s-more-common-than-you-think/ar-AAKABx5

    Amazingly this is from a WaPo writer:


    Morocco ‘weaponized’ migration to punish Spain. That’s more common than you think.


    On May 17, more than 6,000 people swam, floated or scaled a pair of 32-foot-high border fences to cross from Morocco into neighboring Ceuta, an eight-square-mile Spanish-owned city on Africa’s northern coast. Critically for those seeking to enter, Ceuta is inside European Union territory. According to Spanish authorities, it was the largest single-day influx of unregulated migrants in the country’s history. At least 2,000 more followed the next day.

    This wasn’t an accident. Apparently, Morocco engineered this mass cross-border movement to punish and coerce Spain. Video footage appeared to show Moroccan border guards opening fences to the Spanish enclave and allowing people through.

    Nor was this unusual. Strategically engineered migration is far more common than most people realize. At any given time, somewhere in the world, leaders inside or outside governments are likely manipulating migrants and/or refugees to pursue political, military or economic objectives.
     

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Fluesterwitz, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Nicholas Stix, @Getaclue

    They’re just now finding this out? All these migrations are Global South governments cynically spiriting surplus poor north to go be someone else’s problem. For example, if blacks were inclined to migrate to Canada, I’d be handing out bus tickets and meals-to-go.

  108. @Michael S
    No one believes in the mythical "gender pay gap" anymore, not even the most devout shitlibs. And in any event, I am reliably informed that male and female are just arbitrary labels; can't these women just choose to identify as men and reap the benefits of those 28 cents?

    No prizes for guessing whether or not the whamen being interviewed is childless, unmarried or married to a sad omega, and rates about a 2 to 4.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Desiderius, @Bardon Kaldian, @peterike

    Gender pay gap? Hmmmmm….

    [MORE]

    Look ….. you’re miserable …

    And then, some supposedly rational stuff (from one side)

    I prefer fiery fairy troll

    Of course, the following is reasonable, but I prefer fun (no.1 & no. 3)…

  109. I’d like to see Michael Pena in “The Lee Trevino Story.”

    That’s a Joe Pesci CGI job if I’ve ever seen it.

  110. No matter how they try to coddle themselves reality does eventually break through.

    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
    @Desiderius

    What's the difference between castration and trans-affirming medical care? Except one tires my fingers out from typing?

  111. Anon[231] • Disclaimer says:

    The way I look at it, women started going to college in large numbers and starting careers as a way to make sure they were not left out in the cold after a divorce. The legal pendulum on that has gone so far now that they needn’t worry. And yet 70 percent of divorces are initiated by women, mostly for bullshit reasons, or so claims Aaron Renn of the Masculinist, a Christian men’s site: Renn defines bullshit as reasons that wouldn’t have passed religious muster before the 60s.

    With this as background, is a husband going to sabotage his career to take his sick kid to the doctor? LOL! No way. And women are so neurotic about kids anyway they take them to the doctor when they don’t need to go. How many kids die or have permanent problems from most of the illnesses they experience?

    (On the other hand, CPS didn’t used to be around. Here’s left-wing Mother Jones on that:

    Do We Need to Abolish Child Protective Services?
    https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/12/do-we-need-to-abolish-child-protective-services/

    And here’s Reason:

    Texas Becomes Third State To Pass Free-Range Kids Law
    https://reason.com/2021/05/18/texas-becomes-third-state-to-pass-free-range-kids-law/
    )

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Anon

    TwoThreeOne, divorce is a crushing blow to any man who did not see it coming. All I will say about that. And hate eats away at your soul until you expunge it from you life. CPS need better employees not fewer. Anyone who deals with children as part of their career is required to report abuse. Unreported abuse usually does not end but intensifies.

    Replies: @Anon

    , @Art Deco
    @Anon

    The way I look at it, women started going to college in large numbers and starting careers as a way to make sure they were not left out in the cold after a divorce.

    In 1928, women accounted for north of 40% of the enrollment in colleges and universities, just above for undergraduate study, just below for graduate study. In certain other sorts of tertiary institutions - hospital nursing schools, normal schools, teachers' colleges - they predominated. The one place that was not the case was professional schools - theology, medicine, law, pharmacy, veterinary medicine - where women accounted for only 11% of the student body and 5% of the graduates. (Engineering school data was folded into that for colleges and universities in the Statistical Abstracts; data from a generation later indicated engineering schools were overwhelmingly male).

    Please note, one feature of divorce proceedings has remained constant over the post-war period: the woman is the plaintiff about 2/3 of the time.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

  112. Thus, the daily trials and tribulations of the credentialed metropolitan elites.

    Compare and contrast with a couple I know from work. He works the night shift at the end of the week. She works the day shift at the start of the week. Average pay, with health benefits, $17/hr. Child care, school and gymnastics are handled by the parent who is off that day. If you ask them, they are living a good life.

    How do they do it, lacking college degrees and assorted credentials? “It’s hard sometimes, but we make it work.”

    You won’t read about them in the paper.

    “I cried because my wife had to give up the partner track at her law firm, until I met a man who had to budget his pennies to pay for his daughter’s clarinet lessons.”

    • Agree: Desiderius
  113. I really, really, REALLY would like to see someone run the numbers on the supposed gender wage gap in light of the Gates and Bezos divorces. Arguing with females about numbers is an exercise in futility, but a man can dream.

  114. @Almost Missouri
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Once they find out what a grind life at a big firm is, they usually downshift to a corporate law department, or go into their own private practice, often specializing in "marital and family law" (i.e., divorce and family destruction law: one of the peculiar blessings that the feminization of the professions has wrought for us).

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Hangnail Hans

    They sound sensible. A retired Managing Partner of Simmons & Simmons once told me that you used to be able to relax once you reached Partner, but now the ridiculous grind continues. He added that he would have spun himself off in a different direction, had it been the same for him.

    Computers and emails are great tools, but they have also enabled the emergence of all sorts of totally meaningless and unproductive nonsense.

    • Replies: @scrivener3
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Making Partner is like winning a pie eating contest, only to find out the prize is .....
    More Pie

  115. @Desiderius
    https://twitter.com/sullydish/status/1403133693498167303?s=20

    No matter how they try to coddle themselves reality does eventually break through.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    What’s the difference between castration and trans-affirming medical care? Except one tires my fingers out from typing?

  116. @Almost Missouri
    @Cortes

    There was a good comment thread on veterinarians at iSteve a few years ago where a consensus emerged that dependable large animal veterinarians (i.e., the actual, foundational, economically important function of veterinarians) are almost entirely men, that they are dying off, and the turnover of younger women in that trade is very high (most of them probably downshifting to easier pet work.)

    Replies: @Kent Nationalist, @Almost Missouri, @HFR

    Come to think of it, there was a good thread here[?] some years ago about why there are so many lady pharmacists, and why they are above-average looking.

    As usual, whatever the NYT purports to cover has already been covered much better years before in iSteve and comments.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Almost Missouri

    https://twitter.com/angrybklynmom/status/1403066725634019337?s=20

    Top schools.

    Griggs tried to replace the territory with a ca. 1971 map and they’ve been stuck with it ever since. People with self-updating GPS running circles around them.

  117. @Almost Missouri
    @Almost Missouri

    Come to think of it, there was a good thread here[?] some years ago about why there are so many lady pharmacists, and why they are above-average looking.

    As usual, whatever the NYT purports to cover has already been covered much better years before in iSteve and comments.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    Top schools.

    Griggs tried to replace the territory with a ca. 1971 map and they’ve been stuck with it ever since. People with self-updating GPS running circles around them.

  118. @Almost Missouri
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Once they find out what a grind life at a big firm is, they usually downshift to a corporate law department, or go into their own private practice, often specializing in "marital and family law" (i.e., divorce and family destruction law: one of the peculiar blessings that the feminization of the professions has wrought for us).

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Hangnail Hans

    Yeah, the one who is “barely practicing” is in-house counsel for an institution. She’s paid very very well but gets to go home every day at 5. Twice a year she has to travel.

    She’s infinitely happier than when she was partner at a law firm.

  119. @JerseyJeffersonian
    @Achmed E. Newman

    His points also seem to assume that most of the employment situations involved are institutional/corporate, definitely not those of the self-employed or entrepreneurial. In the institutional or corporate world these shared or flextime positions are not uncommon; minimal coverage is pretty reliably available, and in that world some of these suggestions are quite practical. But a lot of us don't live in that world, and these points have absolutely no relevance to our situation.

    And good God almighty, where is all of the money to make these "solutions" (and in reality these only beneficial to some subset of the taxpaying public...) actually going to come from? This is magical thinking at its worst. None of the points are conservative, they are all Nanny State to the max.

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans

    Where’s all the money going to come from? We’re throwing trillions around now. Money is on its way toward being free for everyone (at least politically favored groups), and essentially worthless. Your house is skyrocketing in value? No it’s not, it’s a sign that the dollar is losing value. Much more on the way.

  120. @Desiderius
    https://twitter.com/kennymxu/status/1402830129500393476?s=20

    Replies: @Altai

    I’m not sure. CRT seems to just be anti-white animus + post-modernist gibberish. It seems to have first emerged in the 60s when the first ‘African American Studies’ departments were established. And Dr. Francis Cress Welsing first put into words what looks like the proto-form of CRT at Howard.

    Remember, academic credentialism means PhDs have to come from somewhere and so just a few academics can spawn the whole basis of a field. Given that many professions are now either students or students of students of Cress, you can see how things got here.

    To this day the Howard ‘Africana’ department is taught by one of Cress’ students and goes on an annual trip (Except 2020 and maybe 2021 obviously) to Egypt where they are taught the ‘true’ history of ‘Kemet’. They even perform some weird ancestor worship rituals.

    Howard is where Nick Cannon was taught all this weird Afrocentrist stuff.

    • Thanks: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Altai

    Hard to say how thrilled Harvard alums are to be mentioned in the same breath with Howard.

    They're practically sister schools now.

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy, @Almost Missouri

    , @James J O'Meara
    @Altai

    Once more, white people (Harvard) are appropriating/stealing the creations of Black bodies.

    Or, if you don't fall for Curtis Yarvin's scam, that's "Fellow White People".

    , @El Dato
    @Altai

    Why doesn't Egypt have to build Negrocaust Memorials to their Black ex-overlords they so shamefully despoiled? No fair!

    Can't Big J work on this and get some international conference started?

    Egypt might even drop loot: Israel could use the Sinai peninsula.

  121. @Elli
    OT: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/morocco-e2-80-98weaponized-e2-80-99-migration-to-punish-spain-that-e2-80-99s-more-common-than-you-think/ar-AAKABx5

    Amazingly this is from a WaPo writer:


    Morocco ‘weaponized’ migration to punish Spain. That’s more common than you think.


    On May 17, more than 6,000 people swam, floated or scaled a pair of 32-foot-high border fences to cross from Morocco into neighboring Ceuta, an eight-square-mile Spanish-owned city on Africa’s northern coast. Critically for those seeking to enter, Ceuta is inside European Union territory. According to Spanish authorities, it was the largest single-day influx of unregulated migrants in the country’s history. At least 2,000 more followed the next day.

    This wasn’t an accident. Apparently, Morocco engineered this mass cross-border movement to punish and coerce Spain. Video footage appeared to show Moroccan border guards opening fences to the Spanish enclave and allowing people through.

    Nor was this unusual. Strategically engineered migration is far more common than most people realize. At any given time, somewhere in the world, leaders inside or outside governments are likely manipulating migrants and/or refugees to pursue political, military or economic objectives.
     

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Fluesterwitz, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Nicholas Stix, @Getaclue

    The proper term is “Act 0f War.”

  122. HFR says:
    @Almost Missouri
    @Cortes

    There was a good comment thread on veterinarians at iSteve a few years ago where a consensus emerged that dependable large animal veterinarians (i.e., the actual, foundational, economically important function of veterinarians) are almost entirely men, that they are dying off, and the turnover of younger women in that trade is very high (most of them probably downshifting to easier pet work.)

    Replies: @Kent Nationalist, @Almost Missouri, @HFR

    I’m sure you’re right that most large-animal vets are men. But, not all. For a number of years, my husband and I have watched a NatGeoWild show called “Dr. Oakley, Yukon Vet.” Michelle Oakley has been practicing for 20 or so years and treats everything from bison to deer to cattle to turtles. Many of her colleagues are women. She performs a lot of castrations. My husband stopped flinching during the third season and we joke that by now we could probably perform this procedure ourselves.

  123. All we need is 1o,ooo years of women not having babies to close this blasted gender gap. Bonus: women will be running marathons on the same pace as men … finally!

  124. @photondancer
    @Alden

    You've been on fire this week Alden! Love reading insightful comments like the way they only care about professionals like themselves, not waitresses, and act as if they had discovered mild adversity when all the rest of us have been dealing adroitly with it all our lives.

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans

    Agree about Alden. Just please everyone, let’s
    try not to trigger her mkay?

  125. Don’t worry Nickie, as women realize they have been sterilized by the not-vax, they will be freer to work longer hours at professional jobs; that is until their immune systems finally collapse from the artificial spike protein.

  126. The local news did a segment on why women aren’t returning to work. They interviewed a mom, who basically said it is a choice between money or my kids. She has chosen to stay with her children. The reporter answer to the problem… more child care. Apparently she didn’t here the mom say she wanted to be her children’s child care. Wonder why the chattering class is upset by this post pandemic stay home mothering thing? Aren’t we confiscating droves of brown people from Central America to do the work Americans won’t?

  127. Nor is the gap the result primarily of women choosing lower-paid professions, as some claim. That may explain one-third of earnings gaps, not more.

    What is the basis for this assertion by Mr. Kristof I wonder, or is it pulled out of the infinite source of his nether regions?

  128. @JohnnyWalker123
    @Colin Wright

    You could do that. Though I'd say life is pretty stressful for the average American family. Especially in comparison to what exists in Western Europe.

    I like it when life is easy. Though some say difficulty builds character.

    I like work-life balance, lots of free time, and minimal anxiety. I think too much of a burden is placed on parents. It's like you can't even catch your breath these days.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    It’s like you can’t even catch your breath these days.

    And as soon as you do, there is Jeffrey Epstein!

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @kaganovitch

    Give the man a break.

    He's willing to babysit your daughter for free!

  129. @Altai
    @Desiderius

    I'm not sure. CRT seems to just be anti-white animus + post-modernist gibberish. It seems to have first emerged in the 60s when the first 'African American Studies' departments were established. And Dr. Francis Cress Welsing first put into words what looks like the proto-form of CRT at Howard.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdUR3DnbEw0

    Remember, academic credentialism means PhDs have to come from somewhere and so just a few academics can spawn the whole basis of a field. Given that many professions are now either students or students of students of Cress, you can see how things got here.

    To this day the Howard 'Africana' department is taught by one of Cress' students and goes on an annual trip (Except 2020 and maybe 2021 obviously) to Egypt where they are taught the 'true' history of 'Kemet'. They even perform some weird ancestor worship rituals.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxF48mRwnrY

    Howard is where Nick Cannon was taught all this weird Afrocentrist stuff.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @James J O'Meara, @El Dato

    Hard to say how thrilled Harvard alums are to be mentioned in the same breath with Howard.

    They’re practically sister schools now.

    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
    @Desiderius

    That's "sista" to you.

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Desiderius

    "Oh yeaaah, Harvard. That like Howard, but for white people."

  130. @Achmed E. Newman
    @JohnnyWalker123

    I'm sorry, but I don't like any one of these bullet points, Johnny. They either imply there will be yet more government regulation on business or that government schools will be an even bigger part of raising Americans' kids. How's THAT been working out for us? Critical Race Theory, anyone?

    Name me a single one of these points that is any way Conservative. Abolish Public Education!

    Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian, @JohnnyWalker123, @Paperback Writer

    Articles like this, and all the whining about “equity” are horseshite, Achmed. Any human society worth more than mud shacks rewards effort and application. Not just the Anglosphere, or the Krautosphere.

    Russians are often slagged as being lazy, and there’s a lot of truth to that. Now go look at a Russian ballet company. Not a lazy bone in the lot. They work like dogs – because they value that art form.

    Every goddamn tradesman in NYC is now Latino. I thought Latins were lazy. They work like dogs.

    Regarding ladies in the workforce, I do think there’s a problem in that regard but you know, middle-class professional women are doing fine. It’s the working class gals who are terribly stressed by their schedules, which they cannot change.

    Kristof is a punk and a fake. He only cares about his class.

    • Agree: photondancer
  131. @Jonathan Mason
    These people are very sad if they think it is more important to get to the top of the corporate ladder and have big cars and houses than to enjoy family life.

    Children are only young once and they grow up very quickly.

    I note that Prince Harry and the Duchess of Sussex are BOTH taking 20 weeks paternity/maternity leave from their important jobs creating content for tabloids so that they can wash organic diapers by hand, breastfeed, and build benches.

    Good for them. They are the benchmark for us all. They may never make full partner in their line of business, but they treat their children like royalty all the same.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    I note that Prince Harry and the Duchess of Sussex are BOTH taking 20 weeks paternity/maternity leave from their important jobs creating content for tabloids so that they can wash organic diapers by hand, breastfeed, and build benches.

    Harry and Meg is why governesses were created. The less their children see of them, the better off they’ll be.

    • Agree: Jonathan Mason
  132. @Desiderius
    @Altai

    Hard to say how thrilled Harvard alums are to be mentioned in the same breath with Howard.

    They're practically sister schools now.

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy, @Almost Missouri

    That’s “sista” to you.

  133. Anon[198] • Disclaimer says:

    I can’t imagine a more perverse interpretation of the rise of group practices and 24 hour veterinary clinics. This hasn’t occurred because it was thought up by female vets.

    It has occurred because the combination of increasing debt load and more risk averse female grads has resulted in far fewer veterinarians with the either the financial ability or ambition to own their private practice.

    Instead of private practice owners, there are more and more corporate owned clinics who dictate hours to their DVMs and bean counters who decide on which services need to be pushed to maximize profit.

    A similar trend happened in pharmacy to the point that private pharmacies are an endangered species. 99% of pharmacists are employees of Wal-Mart, Walgreens, CVS. This has not been to the benefit of pharmacists who are now treated like decently paid retail workers instead of medical professionals.

    The same trend is happening in dentistry and it is in neither the dentists or the patients best interest.

    • Thanks: Cortes
  134. The fake journalist and the fake economist are recycling lies that were debunked over 30 years ago.

    “Women today outnumber men in colleges, in law schools and in medical schools.”

    That’s because of systemic sex discrimination, which doesn’t bother the fake journo or the fake economist in the least.

    The problem is feminist hubris, dishonesty, and sexism. Feminists want to get paid the same as men, but for less work, so they can also have kids. The feminists used to call it, “Having it all.”

    Thirty-odd years ago, Meredith Vieira (who was never much of a journalist, to begin with) played this particular sex card. She wanted to work part time for 60 Minutes, while getting paid the same as her colleagues, who worked much harder.

    60 Minutes producer Don Hewitt reportedly fired her. In the same circumstances today, the front office suits would fire Hewitt, and give Vieira his job.

    From what I can see, said feminists aren’t even child-oriented. Kids are for them status symbols. I recall how, 20 years ago, conversations I’d read about between yuppy females, where A is considering moving to B’s neighborhood, always included the line, “And the child-care is wonderful.”

    You mean, poor, West Indian or Hispanic women who were great baby-sitters lived in the same, overpriced neighborhoods, and worked at starvation rates for the White women, who had no interest in raising their own children?

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    @Nicholas Stix

    Hewitt allowed Vieira to work part-time after her first pregnancy. When she got pregnant again and asked to continue working part-time, he said no.



    (Begin quote)

    Vieira was a rising star at CBS and the mother of a newborn baby boy, Benjamin, when she joined 60 Minutes two years ago as a part-time correspondent, filing 10 or 11 stories a year instead of the 22 reported by her male colleagues. Next fall, under an agreement made when Hewitt hired her, she was to assume full-time responsibilities. But when Vieira became pregnant again (her baby is due this summer), she asked Hewitt to let her continue working part-time. ”I said, ‘Why spoil such a good thing?”’ Vieira recalls. ”But it went over like a lead balloon.”

    Contending that 60 Minutes needed full-time reporters and that extending her light schedule through next season would place an unfair burden on Bradley, Steve Kroft, Morley Safer, and Mike Wallace, Hewitt dropped her. Though Vieira has been asked to fulfill her reported $500,000-a-year contract and come up with ideas for a new role at CBS, her position on the network’s highest-profile series is gone.

    (End quote)

    Hewitt was a notorious lech. The network protected him because 60 Minutes was phenomenally profitable. Ed Joyce, a former news-division president who was forced out after getting into a public tiff with Dan Rather, wrote in his dishy memoirs that CBS paid off several of Hewitt’s accusers over the years. They only pushed him out when he got too old.

    Hewitt’s influence on modern American political history should not be underestimated. He directed the TV coverage of the Kennedy-Nixon debate. (When it was over, he turned to a colleague and exclaimed, “My God, we’ve just elected a president of the United States!”) He also rescued Clinton’s candidacy during the ‘92 primaries by arranging for Bill and Hill to appear on 60 Minutes immediately following the Super Bowl.

    Behind-the-scenes footage shows him coaching Bill on how to handle the press:
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ijSbfom4_cE

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Nicholas Stix

    Gold box for Nick Stix, if this were a fair world. OK, nevermind.

    , @S. Anonyia
    @Nicholas Stix

    Having nannies was a thing for wealthy women even before feminism. And they hardly get paid “starvation wages” in most communities. Beats working in fast food or a grocery store for someone diligent and conscientious but not all that educated.

    My greatest-generation grandmother was a stay-at-home Mom who employed a cook, nanny, and gardener to help with her household responsibilities. My father has really fond memories of his childhood, didn’t feel neglected whatsoever. My grandparents’ view was that if you could afford to employ help, you basically had a social responsibility to do so.

  135. @SimpleSong
    Most physicians are in varying degrees of 'eat what you kill' practices.

    That is, if you take out a gallbladder, you send Medicare or whatever insurer a bill, they send you a check, done. Your gender never comes up. For the most part, the way to make more money is simple: take out more gallbladders. Take more call, see more patients, etc. There is stuff around the edges you can do, sure, try to improve your payor mix, other things, but for the most part, it's just how much you want to work. While many physicians are ostensibly 'employed physicians', if you dig down you find that in reality they just get a flat percentage of what their employer bills out in their name. All the 'employer' does is handle billing paperwork, credentialing, etc. See zero patients, get zero dollars.

    The implication that there are some moustache twisting villains plotting how to pay women less is absurd. They get paid less because they work less, period.

    The issue I've seen with a number of young female physicians is they seem to think that a medical degree is a stamp that puts you in the aristocracy. They think that just by dint of having the degree they deserve to get paid handsomely, have a good life, etc.. The happiest day of their medical career is graduation day. In reality, the degree is just a certification that allows you to do a particular type of (high paying) work. If you don't actually do the work...you get nothing. It's not a license to be idle rich. It's not a marriage to Mr. Darcy. Graduation day is the beginning, not the end.

    Now to be clear I think there are actually a lot of ways in which female physicians are superior to male physicians. They are less likely to commit insurance fraud. Women have much better fine motor skills than men (notice handwriting quality in boys vs girls) so honestly I think for many types of surgeries they do a better job. Many fields that involve being naked people are more comfortable with female physicians (OB-gyn, dermatology, etc.) A lot of male physicians work themselves to exhaustion and the quality of work suffers. Disruptive physicians (a.k.a. raging assholes) are almost always males.

    On the other hand pretty much all innovation that I see tends to be driven by males (white males, in particular). In short, unlike some fields (like engineering) I don't think the women in medicine don't belong--they're perfectly good physicians, and it's good to have both. But women making less is not a problem to be solved. They work less, they make less, it's their choice.

    I mean, who is really the dummy here, the guy who will look back on his life and say I spent most of it doing manual labor in an operating room, or the person with the balanced life that makes a little less? I think the men are getting cheated here, cheated out of life...

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @HbutnotG, @BenKenobi, @Richard of Melbourne, @Anon, @Michael S, @AnotherDad, @Buffalo Joe, @Kent Nationalist, @JohnnyWalker123

    The issue I’ve seen with a number of young female physicians is they seem to think that a medical degree is a stamp that puts you in the aristocracy.

    I’m not sure if the female physicians actually think that, but the gender studies graduates definitely do. Particularly when a job looks safe and easy when you ignore the stress and intellectual requirements – such as medicine, engineering, management, law, politics – every feminist is trained to believe that such jobs are simply prizes to be awarded to the most deserving, and have not even considered the angle that practitioners are supposed to produce something of value.

    That’s why you won’t hear them complaining about the lack of women in roofing, welding, logistics, trash pickup, lithium mining or sewer treatment, or that the women in those fields get paid too little. Not that those fields or any fields actually need more women, it just shows their mindset. They can understand on a visceral level that those jobs are hard, and would rather not even acknowledge that they exist.

    I mean, who is really the dummy here, the guy who will look back on his life and say I spent most of it doing manual labor in an operating room, or the person with the balanced life that makes a little less? I think the men are getting cheated here, cheated out of life…

    One thing you must have learned about leftism by now is that it has no limiting function. No matter how hard the white men in this society have to work to support women who aren’t their wives or kin (as well as underperforming minorities), they can always work a little harder.

  136. @SimpleSong
    Most physicians are in varying degrees of 'eat what you kill' practices.

    That is, if you take out a gallbladder, you send Medicare or whatever insurer a bill, they send you a check, done. Your gender never comes up. For the most part, the way to make more money is simple: take out more gallbladders. Take more call, see more patients, etc. There is stuff around the edges you can do, sure, try to improve your payor mix, other things, but for the most part, it's just how much you want to work. While many physicians are ostensibly 'employed physicians', if you dig down you find that in reality they just get a flat percentage of what their employer bills out in their name. All the 'employer' does is handle billing paperwork, credentialing, etc. See zero patients, get zero dollars.

    The implication that there are some moustache twisting villains plotting how to pay women less is absurd. They get paid less because they work less, period.

    The issue I've seen with a number of young female physicians is they seem to think that a medical degree is a stamp that puts you in the aristocracy. They think that just by dint of having the degree they deserve to get paid handsomely, have a good life, etc.. The happiest day of their medical career is graduation day. In reality, the degree is just a certification that allows you to do a particular type of (high paying) work. If you don't actually do the work...you get nothing. It's not a license to be idle rich. It's not a marriage to Mr. Darcy. Graduation day is the beginning, not the end.

    Now to be clear I think there are actually a lot of ways in which female physicians are superior to male physicians. They are less likely to commit insurance fraud. Women have much better fine motor skills than men (notice handwriting quality in boys vs girls) so honestly I think for many types of surgeries they do a better job. Many fields that involve being naked people are more comfortable with female physicians (OB-gyn, dermatology, etc.) A lot of male physicians work themselves to exhaustion and the quality of work suffers. Disruptive physicians (a.k.a. raging assholes) are almost always males.

    On the other hand pretty much all innovation that I see tends to be driven by males (white males, in particular). In short, unlike some fields (like engineering) I don't think the women in medicine don't belong--they're perfectly good physicians, and it's good to have both. But women making less is not a problem to be solved. They work less, they make less, it's their choice.

    I mean, who is really the dummy here, the guy who will look back on his life and say I spent most of it doing manual labor in an operating room, or the person with the balanced life that makes a little less? I think the men are getting cheated here, cheated out of life...

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @HbutnotG, @BenKenobi, @Richard of Melbourne, @Anon, @Michael S, @AnotherDad, @Buffalo Joe, @Kent Nationalist, @JohnnyWalker123

    Terrific–terrifically sane/wise–comment, Simple Song.

    I’ll pass on to my daughter who’s just starting her residency.

    Work is important. And there’s a lot of outside home work many women do very well–medicine being a great example. But work isn’t the sum total of life. Without real life–a family–it’s a sad sideshow.

    • Replies: @anon
    @AnotherDad

    I’ll pass on to my daughter who’s just starting her residency.

    She's married and has children, of course, because she obeys you without question - right?

  137. Telegraph article on Steve’s favourite topic https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/work/lukwesa-burak-panicked-reading-bbc-news-afro/

    Lukwesa Burak: ‘I panicked before reading the BBC news in my afro’
    After years of styling her hair for camera, the presenter says she wanted to set an example for others by appearing on TV as her true self

    By
    Lukwesa Burak
    11 June 2021 • 12:37pm
    Lukwesa Burak
    For Lukwesa Burak, there is a fine line between saying that black hair is a distraction for viewers CREDIT: Lukwesa Burak
    Last month, as I was getting ready to present the BBC’s One O’Clock News, the magnitude of what I was about to do hadn’t quite sunk in: I was about to go live on national television wearing my natural hair.

    It was, I think, the first time the BBC has ever had a black person with a large(-ish…) afro reading the news.

    Earlier that day, I’d gone through initial nerves when coming into work with my natural hair “unhidden”, in a neat bun style. I had already broken out into a cold sweat at the prospect of going in front of the cameras with it, and thought this could go terribly wrong. I know how the general public can react.

    But before I started to panic, I calmed myself down… and just did it. I was shaking, relieved and so anxious as I came off air, but I needn’t have worried.

    I’ve been inundated with praise – notably from parents, who shared that their daughters were inspired by my confidence to wear my own natural hair. It made me feel rather emotional.

    It’s so easy to forget that how you present yourself speaks to viewers in ways you can easily take for granted. Some have told me of their journey in deciding to cut off their hair, while others started conversations with their teachers about it, and have now vowed to embrace whatever direction their hair grows in.

    There were some negative comments, but they’re by the by and to be expected.

    I’ve worn my hair natural but short for a number of years, but never long. It’s a very personal choice. Because our hair is so versatile, black women can explore different hairstyles. I’ve worn mine in so many styles, and often in its natural form, but styled. So it might be pulled in a bun, blow-dried straight, set in curlers… like all women, we have a choice and should not think black, textured, curly hair is “bad”, and straight, blonde hair is “good”. Curly hair is just as beautiful and professional as straight European hair.

    It made me think about the messages we share with children, and how hugely significant it can be for other young girls to see more real-life role models. Even though a “natural hair movement” has exploded online – where black women are embracing their authentic selves and natural hair textures – seeing it in real life is a very different story.

    We’re still hearing stories about young girls and boys facing hair discrimination in their schools. This breaks my heart as it does so much damage to confidence and self-esteem at such a tender and informative age. It was my absolute honour to broadcast with my “new TV hair”.

    It’s something I’m also encouraging my 13-year-old daughter to do as well: to love her natural hair as it cannot be permanently changed.

    Lukwesa Burak and daughter
    Burak says she has had to teach her 13-year-old daughter to love her hair CREDIT: Lukwesa Burak
    When she was young I had quite a big job learning about her hair. It’s finer than mine, a softer curl, as my husband is white, but I still had to educate myself and teach her, too. We’ve had the conversations about her wanting to have straight hair like her friends, and I too went down the route of looking for role models to show her how beautiful her hair is. I did struggle but, funnily enough, it was in France that we found the most help in finding “curly women”. French women and celebrities wore their curly hairstyles the most. It’s important that I start building her confidence now so she can accept and nurture the hair that she has.

    Last year, while I was working at BBC World on a special news programme covering Africa, I decided to go on air with a major afro. There was a lot of volume. I didn’t feel nervous, there were no problems, and I received many positive compliments about my hair, because I was talking to people who looked like me. And that is key: representation. I was dressed in a suit and still looked professional. But saying this, it has taken me a while to build up this level of confidence – to wear my afro on the main BBC news.

    Lukwesa Burak with permed hair
    Burak has experimented with various styles CREDIT: Lukwesa Burak
    It took me back to my childhood when I wore my hair naturally as my mother didn’t prescribe to “creamy crack” – the chemical relaxers both men and women were “addicted” to, especially in the 70s and 80s. To be honest, we couldn’t even afford it, as it requires you having to visit your hairdresser every three months. But, as a teenager, I started wearing braids – a traditional styling choice for black hair – which eventually weakens your hair if you wear them for too long.

    I also lost my hair after being bullied, which triggered a form of dermatitis. I had to wear a white woolly cap to school which meant even more bullying. However, what this taught me was that I am very comfortable having short hair, and that it’ll always grow back.

    But it was when I turned 16 or 17 that I applied my first relaxer – basically, a drain cleaner that straightens the texture of hair – and I lost most of it. There are risks and issues with most styles. With black hair, you have to use products with caution and fully understand what you’re getting yourself into. But even natural hair can be high maintenance.

    Before starting my career in the media – before newsreading, I used to be a consultant – I wore braids. It was just easier for me, but it was still frightening as I was worried that I may look “too ethnic”, a remark that was made to me when I first started working at the BBC a very long time ago, while having a discussion with a manager about the styling choices and protocols that can and cannot work on screen.

    In the early 2000s, when I cut my hair to a number three – pretty short – I was told that I looked like a man. On social media, people called me an “ugly monkey” that should go back to the jungle and said that I had a big fat nose.

    Lukwesa Burak
    When she cut her hair to a number three, Lukwesa Burak was told that she looked like a man CREDIT: Lukwesa Burak
    Those messages shattered my confidence. I also remember wearing a weave when I worked at Sky News. It was horrendous and made me look like I had an oversized and unstyled wig on top of my head. I was even left with a bald patch by my hairline until my manager, at the time, told me to forget about the boundaries I had been given when it came to styling my own hair. He recognised and respected the fact that I knew my hair best, and let me get on with it.

    I worked very closely with my own stylist, Junior Green, and we tried different styles. I even wore a wig at one point when growing my hair. And it was at Sky News that I first bit the bullet and wore my hair natural for the first time on-air.

    There are a lot of presenters, news anchors and reporters who have had to change the style and texture of their hair, because it’s part of the job. Thinking about it, we all style our hair for our professional look. So when I was asked “Are you going on air like that?” when I entered a newsroom with my natural voluminous curls, however innocent that comment was, it knocked me back.

    The rule, though – especially when you are on screen – is that you cannot be a distraction to viewers. Yet there is a fine line between saying that black hair is a distraction. Yes, I’ve got big hair with more volume, but it’s not a distraction, and neither is it untidy. The British public is far more erudite than people give them credit for. Society is so rich in diversity these days, that we see and live the real side of a multicultural world, and it’s about time that is reflected on screen. So it’s important for people to continue educating themselves and remember women have a choice.

    As told to Luke Mintz. Additional reporting: Yolanthe Fawehinmi

    Related Topics
    Hair loss, Inequality, Racism, Hair, BBC, Hairstyles

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @Simon in London


    Last month, as I was getting ready to present the BBC’s One O’Clock News, the magnitude of what I was about to do hadn’t quite sunk in: I was about to go live on national television wearing my natural hair.

    It was, I think, the first time the BBC has ever had a black person with a large(-ish…) afro reading the news.
     
    Actually Moira Stewart, who was from Bermuda, appeared as a news presenter on BBC TV News about 40 years ago wearing what appeared to be her own hair.

    But never mind. My mother said it is always a good idea to brush your hair before appearing in public so that you don't look a mess.

    https://images.app.goo.gl/Kr5ddWoEbgmm92HC9
    , @Jonathan Mason
    @Simon in London


    Last month, as I was getting ready to present the BBC’s One O’Clock News, the magnitude of what I was about to do hadn’t quite sunk in: I was about to go live on national television wearing my natural hair.

    It was, I think, the first time the BBC has ever had a black person with a large(-ish…) afro reading the news.
     
    Actually Moira Stewart, who was from Bermuda, appeared as a news presenter on BBC TV News about 40 years ago wearing what appeared to be her own hair.

    But never mind. My mother said it is always a good idea to brush your hair before appearing in public so that you don't look a mess.

    https://images.app.goo.gl/Kr5ddWoEbgmm92HC9
    , @Triteleia Laxa
    @Simon in London


    Yes, I’ve got big hair with more volume, but it’s not a distraction, and neither is it untidy. The British public is far more erudite than people give them credit for.
     
    Which people?

    What does "erudite" have to do with hair?

    Replies: @J.Ross

    , @AnotherDad
    @Simon in London


    Last month, as I was getting ready to present the BBC’s One O’Clock News, the magnitude of what I was about to do hadn’t quite sunk in: I was about to go live on national television wearing my natural hair.
     
    Geez, what a drama queen. It's like storming the beaches on D-day. A world historical event.

    You're on TV in Britain simply because you're black. Period. There are hundreds of thousands of much better looking, actually British girls who can read the news that people would much rather look at. But the BBC just loves sticking blacks--still a tiny proportion of the population--in the face of actual British people ... for reasons.

    And then oh, your precious hair.

    Female solipsism is amazing. And black women just take it off the charts.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Triteleia Laxa, @photondancer

  138. @Alden
    Blah blah blah blah blah. What year is this? I believe the first draft was written in 1971. And why only worry about lawyers and accountants? Why not worry about waitresses sales clerks bus drivers and other working mothers? . As for the lawyers and accountants married to other lawyers and accounts I suppose you’ve never heard of household help? Neighbors? Baby sitters? Household help agencies? They do exist. Older children and teens? Making arrangements ahead of time?

    Lawyers only need to be in their offices for depositions and meetings any more. They can file lawsuits and responses online. And , recruit? enlist? whatever new clients by email text and phone calls. And make an appointment to meet in the office on scheduled office days.

    Back when veterinarians were all men, they usually had several vets in one clinic and were open all day Saturday and till 9 in the evenings. And they had phone book ADs. That said 24 hour emergency. So a person whose dog was hit by a car at midnight called the phone number in the AD. The answering service would take the call . Dr would call back and make arrangements to meet at the clinic.
    Nowadays that’s done by looking online for vet websites a direct call to the on call that day vet and meet vet at the clinic.

    Did it myself when 5/30 AM Bear went out for a quick pee. He decided to go after the big old nasty vicious raccoon that lived under the deck. Bear came back screeching blood flowing fractured leg. Found vet site called answering person told us to head for the clinic and she’d have someone there. We loaded 90 pound whimpering Bear into car. With kid to hold soothe and cuddle him. I and vet arrived about the same time. Gave Bear to vet. Went home kid and I got dressed fixed bagel and cream cheese Went to work Husband picked Bear up on the way home. Kids had big comfy bed arranged for him. Bear loved attention and petting.

    Liberals. Some ordinary event like a sick day, sick injured dog and they approach it with shock and awe. Like they just discovered it . And the rest of us stupid proles are so stupid we don’t even know the problem exists..

    Or 2 adults or a single parent can’t take a dog to the vet and get the parents and kids to work and school the same day.

    What a despicable helpless wimp is Kristoff.

    Replies: @photondancer, @Buffalo Joe, @Buffalo Joe, @Desiderius, @J.Ross, @Triteleia Laxa, @Days of Broken Arrows

    Alden, excellent comment.

  139. If the feminist movement had been started by working class women these would have been the top issues.
    1. Better pay for working class men so their wives can stay home and raise the kids.
    2. Better pay for working class women like hotel maids who still have to work.
    3. Old-fashioned moral values in society because it is good for families.

    Instead, the feminist movement was started by Radcliffe and Wellesley grads, so we got:
    1. Abortion
    2. The glass ceiling

    • Replies: @HFR
    @rebel yell

    "...the feminist movement was started by Radcliffe and Wellesley grads..."

    Gloria Steinem and Betty Friedan graduated from Smith College; Bella Abzug had a BA from Hunter College and a law degree from Columbia; Germain Greer had a BA from U. of Melbourne, an MA from U. of Sydney, and a PhD from U.of Cambridge.

    And many working-class women have had abortions that they wished had been as safe as the ones that educated upper-middle-class women were able to have long before abortions were legal.

    Replies: @Culpeper

    , @photondancer
    @rebel yell

    Buffoon. Go read a short history of feminism and see how every one of your points is wrong.

  140. @Alden
    Blah blah blah blah blah. What year is this? I believe the first draft was written in 1971. And why only worry about lawyers and accountants? Why not worry about waitresses sales clerks bus drivers and other working mothers? . As for the lawyers and accountants married to other lawyers and accounts I suppose you’ve never heard of household help? Neighbors? Baby sitters? Household help agencies? They do exist. Older children and teens? Making arrangements ahead of time?

    Lawyers only need to be in their offices for depositions and meetings any more. They can file lawsuits and responses online. And , recruit? enlist? whatever new clients by email text and phone calls. And make an appointment to meet in the office on scheduled office days.

    Back when veterinarians were all men, they usually had several vets in one clinic and were open all day Saturday and till 9 in the evenings. And they had phone book ADs. That said 24 hour emergency. So a person whose dog was hit by a car at midnight called the phone number in the AD. The answering service would take the call . Dr would call back and make arrangements to meet at the clinic.
    Nowadays that’s done by looking online for vet websites a direct call to the on call that day vet and meet vet at the clinic.

    Did it myself when 5/30 AM Bear went out for a quick pee. He decided to go after the big old nasty vicious raccoon that lived under the deck. Bear came back screeching blood flowing fractured leg. Found vet site called answering person told us to head for the clinic and she’d have someone there. We loaded 90 pound whimpering Bear into car. With kid to hold soothe and cuddle him. I and vet arrived about the same time. Gave Bear to vet. Went home kid and I got dressed fixed bagel and cream cheese Went to work Husband picked Bear up on the way home. Kids had big comfy bed arranged for him. Bear loved attention and petting.

    Liberals. Some ordinary event like a sick day, sick injured dog and they approach it with shock and awe. Like they just discovered it . And the rest of us stupid proles are so stupid we don’t even know the problem exists..

    Or 2 adults or a single parent can’t take a dog to the vet and get the parents and kids to work and school the same day.

    What a despicable helpless wimp is Kristoff.

    Replies: @photondancer, @Buffalo Joe, @Buffalo Joe, @Desiderius, @J.Ross, @Triteleia Laxa, @Days of Broken Arrows

    Alden, I have to expand on my “good comment” I gave you. Sick days and personal days are abused and then when people need them they don’t have them. Buffalo City school teachers average 18 days per academic year out of the classroom. That is three weeks of class plus 3 days. Paid of course. I worked twenty five years in construction, no sick days or vacation, However, on two separate big projects that last three plus years each, I got two weeks paid vacation.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Buffalo Joe


    Sick days and personal days are abused...
     
    Many union contracts say sick and personal days belong to the employee and they can cash them in when they retire. I think this is wrong.

    Some companies are going to a plan where you get, say, 21 days of leave a year. You can take them as vacation, sick, personal, whatever you like, and these days are use it or lose it because they expire at year end.

    They are also avoiding the Columbus/MLK land mine by giving everyone the 8 of the 10 Federal holiday that do not include those two, and then letting people have two floating holidays.
  141. @SimpleSong
    Most physicians are in varying degrees of 'eat what you kill' practices.

    That is, if you take out a gallbladder, you send Medicare or whatever insurer a bill, they send you a check, done. Your gender never comes up. For the most part, the way to make more money is simple: take out more gallbladders. Take more call, see more patients, etc. There is stuff around the edges you can do, sure, try to improve your payor mix, other things, but for the most part, it's just how much you want to work. While many physicians are ostensibly 'employed physicians', if you dig down you find that in reality they just get a flat percentage of what their employer bills out in their name. All the 'employer' does is handle billing paperwork, credentialing, etc. See zero patients, get zero dollars.

    The implication that there are some moustache twisting villains plotting how to pay women less is absurd. They get paid less because they work less, period.

    The issue I've seen with a number of young female physicians is they seem to think that a medical degree is a stamp that puts you in the aristocracy. They think that just by dint of having the degree they deserve to get paid handsomely, have a good life, etc.. The happiest day of their medical career is graduation day. In reality, the degree is just a certification that allows you to do a particular type of (high paying) work. If you don't actually do the work...you get nothing. It's not a license to be idle rich. It's not a marriage to Mr. Darcy. Graduation day is the beginning, not the end.

    Now to be clear I think there are actually a lot of ways in which female physicians are superior to male physicians. They are less likely to commit insurance fraud. Women have much better fine motor skills than men (notice handwriting quality in boys vs girls) so honestly I think for many types of surgeries they do a better job. Many fields that involve being naked people are more comfortable with female physicians (OB-gyn, dermatology, etc.) A lot of male physicians work themselves to exhaustion and the quality of work suffers. Disruptive physicians (a.k.a. raging assholes) are almost always males.

    On the other hand pretty much all innovation that I see tends to be driven by males (white males, in particular). In short, unlike some fields (like engineering) I don't think the women in medicine don't belong--they're perfectly good physicians, and it's good to have both. But women making less is not a problem to be solved. They work less, they make less, it's their choice.

    I mean, who is really the dummy here, the guy who will look back on his life and say I spent most of it doing manual labor in an operating room, or the person with the balanced life that makes a little less? I think the men are getting cheated here, cheated out of life...

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @HbutnotG, @BenKenobi, @Richard of Melbourne, @Anon, @Michael S, @AnotherDad, @Buffalo Joe, @Kent Nationalist, @JohnnyWalker123

    Simple, AND check out the difference in life for a guy after a divorce.All I’m going to say.

  142. Kristof is a worst case scenario of a credentialled imbecile, of a person educated away from intellect, of a guy with ten degrees who has no idea how anything works.
    What’s bizarre about this column (besides everything) is that he couldn’t be bothered to do any work for it. How old is this nonsense about women making less for the “same” job? Ten years? Fifteen years?

  143. @kaganovitch
    @Moral Stone

    Shocking indeed that the completely normal couple Claudia and Sheryl have issues with how the vast majority of biological parents seem perfectly happy to divvy up parenting responsibilities along gender lines.

    Sheryl is Kristoff's wife , not Claudia's.

    Replies: @Moral Stone

    Whoops my bad.

  144. @AnotherDad
    @SimpleSong

    Terrific--terrifically sane/wise--comment, Simple Song.

    I'll pass on to my daughter who's just starting her residency.

    Work is important. And there's a lot of outside home work many women do very well--medicine being a great example. But work isn't the sum total of life. Without real life--a family--it's a sad sideshow.

    Replies: @anon

    I’ll pass on to my daughter who’s just starting her residency.

    She’s married and has children, of course, because she obeys you without question – right?

    • LOL: JohnnyWalker123
  145. Off topic:

    Steve

    What did Fort Carson Battalion Commander Lieutenant Andrew Rhodes say to the White Troops under his command?

    Answer:‘the existence of White People is a hate crime against People of Color…”

    • Replies: @anon
    @War for Blair Mountain

    Dude, do you know what a hyperlink is?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperlink

    Any 12 year old can earn how to use a search engine and copy-paste. Maybe you can do the same?

  146. @SimpleSong
    Most physicians are in varying degrees of 'eat what you kill' practices.

    That is, if you take out a gallbladder, you send Medicare or whatever insurer a bill, they send you a check, done. Your gender never comes up. For the most part, the way to make more money is simple: take out more gallbladders. Take more call, see more patients, etc. There is stuff around the edges you can do, sure, try to improve your payor mix, other things, but for the most part, it's just how much you want to work. While many physicians are ostensibly 'employed physicians', if you dig down you find that in reality they just get a flat percentage of what their employer bills out in their name. All the 'employer' does is handle billing paperwork, credentialing, etc. See zero patients, get zero dollars.

    The implication that there are some moustache twisting villains plotting how to pay women less is absurd. They get paid less because they work less, period.

    The issue I've seen with a number of young female physicians is they seem to think that a medical degree is a stamp that puts you in the aristocracy. They think that just by dint of having the degree they deserve to get paid handsomely, have a good life, etc.. The happiest day of their medical career is graduation day. In reality, the degree is just a certification that allows you to do a particular type of (high paying) work. If you don't actually do the work...you get nothing. It's not a license to be idle rich. It's not a marriage to Mr. Darcy. Graduation day is the beginning, not the end.

    Now to be clear I think there are actually a lot of ways in which female physicians are superior to male physicians. They are less likely to commit insurance fraud. Women have much better fine motor skills than men (notice handwriting quality in boys vs girls) so honestly I think for many types of surgeries they do a better job. Many fields that involve being naked people are more comfortable with female physicians (OB-gyn, dermatology, etc.) A lot of male physicians work themselves to exhaustion and the quality of work suffers. Disruptive physicians (a.k.a. raging assholes) are almost always males.

    On the other hand pretty much all innovation that I see tends to be driven by males (white males, in particular). In short, unlike some fields (like engineering) I don't think the women in medicine don't belong--they're perfectly good physicians, and it's good to have both. But women making less is not a problem to be solved. They work less, they make less, it's their choice.

    I mean, who is really the dummy here, the guy who will look back on his life and say I spent most of it doing manual labor in an operating room, or the person with the balanced life that makes a little less? I think the men are getting cheated here, cheated out of life...

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @HbutnotG, @BenKenobi, @Richard of Melbourne, @Anon, @Michael S, @AnotherDad, @Buffalo Joe, @Kent Nationalist, @JohnnyWalker123

    Being a GP is well suited to women’s temperament and abilities

  147. @JohnnyWalker123
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Lots of parents claim they're overwhelmed by the demands of child-rearing. If schools could take on more of the load (meals, homework assistance, summer supervision), I think that'd lighten the stress a lot. Especially if employers cooperated around parental schedules, in the ways I outlined above.

    Alternatively, we could keep the current system.

    Or we could abolish public education completely and let parents do as they please. Though it's not clear whether that'd make life any easier.

    Most parents complain constantly about how hard it is these days to raise kids. Especially helping their kids with homework, taking them to appointments, and feeding them meals.

    I don't anticipate a lot of my ideas making it through Congress though.

    Replies: @Alden

    Homework should be abolished. I don’t take my car to a mechanic pay him then take it home and repair the car all over again. Schools are paid $15,000 to $20,000 per kid per year to teach them. So teach them. That’s your job

    It’s not the parents job to do between 6 when the parents get home and 8:30 or 9 when the kids should be in bed what should have been doing for the 6 or 7 hours they were in school.

  148. @Colin Wright
    There remains the point that women are just less aggressively competitive.

    Women want everyone in the room to be happy. Men want to be the winner.

    This isn't good or bad. It's just the way it is. Alpha males are going to tend to climb to the top of the heap.

    Replies: @donut, @Spangel223, @Flip

  149. @Simon in London
    Telegraph article on Steve's favourite topic https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/work/lukwesa-burak-panicked-reading-bbc-news-afro/

    Lukwesa Burak: ‘I panicked before reading the BBC news in my afro’
    After years of styling her hair for camera, the presenter says she wanted to set an example for others by appearing on TV as her true self

    By
    Lukwesa Burak
    11 June 2021 • 12:37pm
    Lukwesa Burak
    For Lukwesa Burak, there is a fine line between saying that black hair is a distraction for viewers CREDIT: Lukwesa Burak
    Last month, as I was getting ready to present the BBC’s One O’Clock News, the magnitude of what I was about to do hadn’t quite sunk in: I was about to go live on national television wearing my natural hair.

    It was, I think, the first time the BBC has ever had a black person with a large(-ish…) afro reading the news.

    Earlier that day, I’d gone through initial nerves when coming into work with my natural hair “unhidden”, in a neat bun style. I had already broken out into a cold sweat at the prospect of going in front of the cameras with it, and thought this could go terribly wrong. I know how the general public can react.

    But before I started to panic, I calmed myself down… and just did it. I was shaking, relieved and so anxious as I came off air, but I needn’t have worried.

    I’ve been inundated with praise – notably from parents, who shared that their daughters were inspired by my confidence to wear my own natural hair. It made me feel rather emotional.


    It’s so easy to forget that how you present yourself speaks to viewers in ways you can easily take for granted. Some have told me of their journey in deciding to cut off their hair, while others started conversations with their teachers about it, and have now vowed to embrace whatever direction their hair grows in.

    There were some negative comments, but they’re by the by and to be expected.

    I’ve worn my hair natural but short for a number of years, but never long. It’s a very personal choice. Because our hair is so versatile, black women can explore different hairstyles. I’ve worn mine in so many styles, and often in its natural form, but styled. So it might be pulled in a bun, blow-dried straight, set in curlers... like all women, we have a choice and should not think black, textured, curly hair is “bad”, and straight, blonde hair is “good”. Curly hair is just as beautiful and professional as straight European hair.

    It made me think about the messages we share with children, and how hugely significant it can be for other young girls to see more real-life role models. Even though a “natural hair movement” has exploded online – where black women are embracing their authentic selves and natural hair textures – seeing it in real life is a very different story.

    We’re still hearing stories about young girls and boys facing hair discrimination in their schools. This breaks my heart as it does so much damage to confidence and self-esteem at such a tender and informative age. It was my absolute honour to broadcast with my “new TV hair”.

    It’s something I’m also encouraging my 13-year-old daughter to do as well: to love her natural hair as it cannot be permanently changed.

    Lukwesa Burak and daughter
    Burak says she has had to teach her 13-year-old daughter to love her hair CREDIT: Lukwesa Burak
    When she was young I had quite a big job learning about her hair. It’s finer than mine, a softer curl, as my husband is white, but I still had to educate myself and teach her, too. We’ve had the conversations about her wanting to have straight hair like her friends, and I too went down the route of looking for role models to show her how beautiful her hair is. I did struggle but, funnily enough, it was in France that we found the most help in finding “curly women”. French women and celebrities wore their curly hairstyles the most. It’s important that I start building her confidence now so she can accept and nurture the hair that she has.

    Last year, while I was working at BBC World on a special news programme covering Africa, I decided to go on air with a major afro. There was a lot of volume. I didn’t feel nervous, there were no problems, and I received many positive compliments about my hair, because I was talking to people who looked like me. And that is key: representation. I was dressed in a suit and still looked professional. But saying this, it has taken me a while to build up this level of confidence – to wear my afro on the main BBC news.

    Lukwesa Burak with permed hair
    Burak has experimented with various styles CREDIT: Lukwesa Burak
    It took me back to my childhood when I wore my hair naturally as my mother didn’t prescribe to “creamy crack” – the chemical relaxers both men and women were “addicted” to, especially in the 70s and 80s. To be honest, we couldn’t even afford it, as it requires you having to visit your hairdresser every three months. But, as a teenager, I started wearing braids – a traditional styling choice for black hair – which eventually weakens your hair if you wear them for too long.

    I also lost my hair after being bullied, which triggered a form of dermatitis. I had to wear a white woolly cap to school which meant even more bullying. However, what this taught me was that I am very comfortable having short hair, and that it’ll always grow back.

    But it was when I turned 16 or 17 that I applied my first relaxer – basically, a drain cleaner that straightens the texture of hair – and I lost most of it. There are risks and issues with most styles. With black hair, you have to use products with caution and fully understand what you’re getting yourself into. But even natural hair can be high maintenance.

    Before starting my career in the media – before newsreading, I used to be a consultant – I wore braids. It was just easier for me, but it was still frightening as I was worried that I may look “too ethnic”, a remark that was made to me when I first started working at the BBC a very long time ago, while having a discussion with a manager about the styling choices and protocols that can and cannot work on screen.

    In the early 2000s, when I cut my hair to a number three – pretty short – I was told that I looked like a man. On social media, people called me an “ugly monkey” that should go back to the jungle and said that I had a big fat nose.

    Lukwesa Burak
    When she cut her hair to a number three, Lukwesa Burak was told that she looked like a man CREDIT: Lukwesa Burak
    Those messages shattered my confidence. I also remember wearing a weave when I worked at Sky News. It was horrendous and made me look like I had an oversized and unstyled wig on top of my head. I was even left with a bald patch by my hairline until my manager, at the time, told me to forget about the boundaries I had been given when it came to styling my own hair. He recognised and respected the fact that I knew my hair best, and let me get on with it.

    I worked very closely with my own stylist, Junior Green, and we tried different styles. I even wore a wig at one point when growing my hair. And it was at Sky News that I first bit the bullet and wore my hair natural for the first time on-air.

    There are a lot of presenters, news anchors and reporters who have had to change the style and texture of their hair, because it’s part of the job. Thinking about it, we all style our hair for our professional look. So when I was asked “Are you going on air like that?” when I entered a newsroom with my natural voluminous curls, however innocent that comment was, it knocked me back.

    The rule, though – especially when you are on screen – is that you cannot be a distraction to viewers. Yet there is a fine line between saying that black hair is a distraction. Yes, I’ve got big hair with more volume, but it’s not a distraction, and neither is it untidy. The British public is far more erudite than people give them credit for. Society is so rich in diversity these days, that we see and live the real side of a multicultural world, and it’s about time that is reflected on screen. So it’s important for people to continue educating themselves and remember women have a choice.

    As told to Luke Mintz. Additional reporting: Yolanthe Fawehinmi

    Related Topics
    Hair loss, Inequality, Racism, Hair, BBC, Hairstyles

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Jonathan Mason, @Triteleia Laxa, @AnotherDad

    Last month, as I was getting ready to present the BBC’s One O’Clock News, the magnitude of what I was about to do hadn’t quite sunk in: I was about to go live on national television wearing my natural hair.

    It was, I think, the first time the BBC has ever had a black person with a large(-ish…) afro reading the news.

    Actually Moira Stewart, who was from Bermuda, appeared as a news presenter on BBC TV News about 40 years ago wearing what appeared to be her own hair.

    But never mind. My mother said it is always a good idea to brush your hair before appearing in public so that you don’t look a mess.

    https://images.app.goo.gl/Kr5ddWoEbgmm92HC9

  150. @Simon in London
    Telegraph article on Steve's favourite topic https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/work/lukwesa-burak-panicked-reading-bbc-news-afro/

    Lukwesa Burak: ‘I panicked before reading the BBC news in my afro’
    After years of styling her hair for camera, the presenter says she wanted to set an example for others by appearing on TV as her true self

    By
    Lukwesa Burak
    11 June 2021 • 12:37pm
    Lukwesa Burak
    For Lukwesa Burak, there is a fine line between saying that black hair is a distraction for viewers CREDIT: Lukwesa Burak
    Last month, as I was getting ready to present the BBC’s One O’Clock News, the magnitude of what I was about to do hadn’t quite sunk in: I was about to go live on national television wearing my natural hair.

    It was, I think, the first time the BBC has ever had a black person with a large(-ish…) afro reading the news.

    Earlier that day, I’d gone through initial nerves when coming into work with my natural hair “unhidden”, in a neat bun style. I had already broken out into a cold sweat at the prospect of going in front of the cameras with it, and thought this could go terribly wrong. I know how the general public can react.

    But before I started to panic, I calmed myself down… and just did it. I was shaking, relieved and so anxious as I came off air, but I needn’t have worried.

    I’ve been inundated with praise – notably from parents, who shared that their daughters were inspired by my confidence to wear my own natural hair. It made me feel rather emotional.


    It’s so easy to forget that how you present yourself speaks to viewers in ways you can easily take for granted. Some have told me of their journey in deciding to cut off their hair, while others started conversations with their teachers about it, and have now vowed to embrace whatever direction their hair grows in.

    There were some negative comments, but they’re by the by and to be expected.

    I’ve worn my hair natural but short for a number of years, but never long. It’s a very personal choice. Because our hair is so versatile, black women can explore different hairstyles. I’ve worn mine in so many styles, and often in its natural form, but styled. So it might be pulled in a bun, blow-dried straight, set in curlers... like all women, we have a choice and should not think black, textured, curly hair is “bad”, and straight, blonde hair is “good”. Curly hair is just as beautiful and professional as straight European hair.

    It made me think about the messages we share with children, and how hugely significant it can be for other young girls to see more real-life role models. Even though a “natural hair movement” has exploded online – where black women are embracing their authentic selves and natural hair textures – seeing it in real life is a very different story.

    We’re still hearing stories about young girls and boys facing hair discrimination in their schools. This breaks my heart as it does so much damage to confidence and self-esteem at such a tender and informative age. It was my absolute honour to broadcast with my “new TV hair”.

    It’s something I’m also encouraging my 13-year-old daughter to do as well: to love her natural hair as it cannot be permanently changed.

    Lukwesa Burak and daughter
    Burak says she has had to teach her 13-year-old daughter to love her hair CREDIT: Lukwesa Burak
    When she was young I had quite a big job learning about her hair. It’s finer than mine, a softer curl, as my husband is white, but I still had to educate myself and teach her, too. We’ve had the conversations about her wanting to have straight hair like her friends, and I too went down the route of looking for role models to show her how beautiful her hair is. I did struggle but, funnily enough, it was in France that we found the most help in finding “curly women”. French women and celebrities wore their curly hairstyles the most. It’s important that I start building her confidence now so she can accept and nurture the hair that she has.

    Last year, while I was working at BBC World on a special news programme covering Africa, I decided to go on air with a major afro. There was a lot of volume. I didn’t feel nervous, there were no problems, and I received many positive compliments about my hair, because I was talking to people who looked like me. And that is key: representation. I was dressed in a suit and still looked professional. But saying this, it has taken me a while to build up this level of confidence – to wear my afro on the main BBC news.

    Lukwesa Burak with permed hair
    Burak has experimented with various styles CREDIT: Lukwesa Burak
    It took me back to my childhood when I wore my hair naturally as my mother didn’t prescribe to “creamy crack” – the chemical relaxers both men and women were “addicted” to, especially in the 70s and 80s. To be honest, we couldn’t even afford it, as it requires you having to visit your hairdresser every three months. But, as a teenager, I started wearing braids – a traditional styling choice for black hair – which eventually weakens your hair if you wear them for too long.

    I also lost my hair after being bullied, which triggered a form of dermatitis. I had to wear a white woolly cap to school which meant even more bullying. However, what this taught me was that I am very comfortable having short hair, and that it’ll always grow back.

    But it was when I turned 16 or 17 that I applied my first relaxer – basically, a drain cleaner that straightens the texture of hair – and I lost most of it. There are risks and issues with most styles. With black hair, you have to use products with caution and fully understand what you’re getting yourself into. But even natural hair can be high maintenance.

    Before starting my career in the media – before newsreading, I used to be a consultant – I wore braids. It was just easier for me, but it was still frightening as I was worried that I may look “too ethnic”, a remark that was made to me when I first started working at the BBC a very long time ago, while having a discussion with a manager about the styling choices and protocols that can and cannot work on screen.

    In the early 2000s, when I cut my hair to a number three – pretty short – I was told that I looked like a man. On social media, people called me an “ugly monkey” that should go back to the jungle and said that I had a big fat nose.

    Lukwesa Burak
    When she cut her hair to a number three, Lukwesa Burak was told that she looked like a man CREDIT: Lukwesa Burak
    Those messages shattered my confidence. I also remember wearing a weave when I worked at Sky News. It was horrendous and made me look like I had an oversized and unstyled wig on top of my head. I was even left with a bald patch by my hairline until my manager, at the time, told me to forget about the boundaries I had been given when it came to styling my own hair. He recognised and respected the fact that I knew my hair best, and let me get on with it.

    I worked very closely with my own stylist, Junior Green, and we tried different styles. I even wore a wig at one point when growing my hair. And it was at Sky News that I first bit the bullet and wore my hair natural for the first time on-air.

    There are a lot of presenters, news anchors and reporters who have had to change the style and texture of their hair, because it’s part of the job. Thinking about it, we all style our hair for our professional look. So when I was asked “Are you going on air like that?” when I entered a newsroom with my natural voluminous curls, however innocent that comment was, it knocked me back.

    The rule, though – especially when you are on screen – is that you cannot be a distraction to viewers. Yet there is a fine line between saying that black hair is a distraction. Yes, I’ve got big hair with more volume, but it’s not a distraction, and neither is it untidy. The British public is far more erudite than people give them credit for. Society is so rich in diversity these days, that we see and live the real side of a multicultural world, and it’s about time that is reflected on screen. So it’s important for people to continue educating themselves and remember women have a choice.

    As told to Luke Mintz. Additional reporting: Yolanthe Fawehinmi

    Related Topics
    Hair loss, Inequality, Racism, Hair, BBC, Hairstyles

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Jonathan Mason, @Triteleia Laxa, @AnotherDad

    Last month, as I was getting ready to present the BBC’s One O’Clock News, the magnitude of what I was about to do hadn’t quite sunk in: I was about to go live on national television wearing my natural hair.

    It was, I think, the first time the BBC has ever had a black person with a large(-ish…) afro reading the news.

    Actually Moira Stewart, who was from Bermuda, appeared as a news presenter on BBC TV News about 40 years ago wearing what appeared to be her own hair.

    But never mind. My mother said it is always a good idea to brush your hair before appearing in public so that you don’t look a mess.

    https://images.app.goo.gl/Kr5ddWoEbgmm92HC9

  151. @JohnnyWalker123
    I'll solve the problem.

    -Offer more flex-time for employees, especially women with children.
    -More online work options (especially meetings), even if for just for a fraction of the workweek.
    -More part-time work options, including high-paying White-collar jobs.
    -Parent-Teacher conferences online or on the weekend.
    -Daycare centers that are located inside the work facility.
    -Medical&dental facilities located inside the work facility, to see the doctor&dentist at work.
    -Make it easier to see the doctor and dentist during the weekend.
    -More online options for kids when they're sick.
    -Giving kids supplements at school (Zinc, Vit C, Vit D) to minimize sick days.
    -More ready-made, cheap, easy meal options from the grocery store. Grab&go.
    -Expand school lunch to all kids (even wealthy). Also, offer healthier&better tasting options.
    -Expand school breakfast.
    -School-organized carpools (or just more buses) to get kids home. Saves mom a trip.
    -Re-integrate middle-aged moms who've been out of the workforce for years.
    -Provide time off for moms who have to leave the workforce to be caregivers.
    -Longer school days and more summer school options.
    -Getting kids to complete their homework in school (with teacher assistance), which would be really helpful to parents.
    -If kids stay late enough, school dinners can be an option.
    -Provide a stipend to older relatives (such as grandparents) to take care of kids.
    -Schools can teach kids to become more independent at an early age and to take on more chores.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Colin Wright, @Alden, @Kent Nationalist, @Bardon Kaldian, @Bill Jones, @Prof. Woland, @epochehusserl, @Jim Bob Lassiter

    I’ll solve the problem.

    So will I.
    A two line HR Department.

    “Do what you’re paid to do or you are fired.”
    “I decide.”

  152. The whole point of high social status is that you are different, special. Expecially if you are a woman.

    And any woman can be a mother.

    • Agree: Desiderius
  153. Could finance or consulting be structured more like this? If a C.E.O. is willing to trust his sick child to an on-call pediatrician, then why not let an on-call C.P.A. handle a weekend accounting question?

    So CEOs are “on-call” 24/7/365? Really?

    So when they’re off-piste in the Rockies, or it’s 3:00 AM on Sunday, they’re fielding questions about accounting?

    I suspect that a lot of Boomer CEOs work fewer hours than they claim. I remember when Romney ran for President, he bragged about how many hours he worked, how many hours he spent on charities, how many hours he spent on the church, and so on, and when I added them all up, there aren’t that many hours in a week.

    • Agree: S. Anonyia
  154. @Achmed E. Newman
    @SimpleSong


    For the most part, the way to make more money is simple: take out more gallbladders.
     
    How many do we have, anyway? I thought it was just one or two.

    Thanks for the interesting comment, SS. I think male doctors have pretty good lives too, though better if it's airplanes or boats rather than ex-wives.

    Replies: @SimpleSong, @Deckin

    ” I think male doctors have pretty good lives too, though better if it’s airplanes or boats rather than ex-wives.”

    All high earning males need heed the advice of Paul Reiser’s character in the show Red Oaks (though I think it comes from a novel):

    “If it flies, floats, or fucks, rent it!”

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Deckin

    I've been trying to cut down on the bad language, with some mild success, at least some of the damn time, so I left that out. I am familiar, Deckin!.

  155. @JerseyJeffersonian
    @Paperback Writer

    Maybe I'm just an old fossil who is way behind on the trends, but when the couple in question's names are Claudia and Sheryl, I'm thinking that there might be a "husband" and a "wife" here, but that they are both female, so there is actually no "he" involved. Correct me if I am mistaken, please.

    Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian, @Paperback Writer

    OK, you realized your error but who knows? Claudia and Sheryl may yet take up the challenge.

    There’s weird stuff in that bat guano, you know.

  156. @angmoh
    Industries finding ways for work norms to be a little less soul-destroying is a good thing. Feminisation of society has good and bad effects - this kind of stuff is one of the good

    Hyperproductive CEOs getting milked for every ounce of value they provide for the remuneration they get is great for society - but work hours / output for the vast majority are subject to much different value propositions.

    Replies: @Dutch Boy, @Jmaie, @Jim Bob Lassiter

    If we are going to have a system that require two incomes for family formation, it is a good idea to make that system as family-friendly for women who want babies as possible.

  157. @Nicholas Stix
    The fake journalist and the fake economist are recycling lies that were debunked over 30 years ago.

    “Women today outnumber men in colleges, in law schools and in medical schools.”

    That’s because of systemic sex discrimination, which doesn’t bother the fake journo or the fake economist in the least.

    The problem is feminist hubris, dishonesty, and sexism. Feminists want to get paid the same as men, but for less work, so they can also have kids. The feminists used to call it, “Having it all.”

    Thirty-odd years ago, Meredith Vieira (who was never much of a journalist, to begin with) played this particular sex card. She wanted to work part time for 60 Minutes, while getting paid the same as her colleagues, who worked much harder.

    60 Minutes producer Don Hewitt reportedly fired her. In the same circumstances today, the front office suits would fire Hewitt, and give Vieira his job.

    From what I can see, said feminists aren’t even child-oriented. Kids are for them status symbols. I recall how, 20 years ago, conversations I’d read about between yuppy females, where A is considering moving to B’s neighborhood, always included the line, “And the child-care is wonderful.”

    You mean, poor, West Indian or Hispanic women who were great baby-sitters lived in the same, overpriced neighborhoods, and worked at starvation rates for the White women, who had no interest in raising their own children?

    Replies: @Stan Adams, @Achmed E. Newman, @S. Anonyia

    Hewitt allowed Vieira to work part-time after her first pregnancy. When she got pregnant again and asked to continue working part-time, he said no.

    [MORE]

    (Begin quote)

    Vieira was a rising star at CBS and the mother of a newborn baby boy, Benjamin, when she joined 60 Minutes two years ago as a part-time correspondent, filing 10 or 11 stories a year instead of the 22 reported by her male colleagues. Next fall, under an agreement made when Hewitt hired her, she was to assume full-time responsibilities. But when Vieira became pregnant again (her baby is due this summer), she asked Hewitt to let her continue working part-time. ”I said, ‘Why spoil such a good thing?”’ Vieira recalls. ”But it went over like a lead balloon.”

    Contending that 60 Minutes needed full-time reporters and that extending her light schedule through next season would place an unfair burden on Bradley, Steve Kroft, Morley Safer, and Mike Wallace, Hewitt dropped her. Though Vieira has been asked to fulfill her reported $500,000-a-year contract and come up with ideas for a new role at CBS, her position on the network’s highest-profile series is gone.

    (End quote)

    Hewitt was a notorious lech. The network protected him because 60 Minutes was phenomenally profitable. Ed Joyce, a former news-division president who was forced out after getting into a public tiff with Dan Rather, wrote in his dishy memoirs that CBS paid off several of Hewitt’s accusers over the years. They only pushed him out when he got too old.

    Hewitt’s influence on modern American political history should not be underestimated. He directed the TV coverage of the Kennedy-Nixon debate. (When it was over, he turned to a colleague and exclaimed, “My God, we’ve just elected a president of the United States!”) He also rescued Clinton’s candidacy during the ‘92 primaries by arranging for Bill and Hill to appear on 60 Minutes immediately following the Super Bowl.

    Behind-the-scenes footage shows him coaching Bill on how to handle the press:

    • Thanks: Nicholas Stix
  158. @Alden
    Blah blah blah blah blah. What year is this? I believe the first draft was written in 1971. And why only worry about lawyers and accountants? Why not worry about waitresses sales clerks bus drivers and other working mothers? . As for the lawyers and accountants married to other lawyers and accounts I suppose you’ve never heard of household help? Neighbors? Baby sitters? Household help agencies? They do exist. Older children and teens? Making arrangements ahead of time?

    Lawyers only need to be in their offices for depositions and meetings any more. They can file lawsuits and responses online. And , recruit? enlist? whatever new clients by email text and phone calls. And make an appointment to meet in the office on scheduled office days.

    Back when veterinarians were all men, they usually had several vets in one clinic and were open all day Saturday and till 9 in the evenings. And they had phone book ADs. That said 24 hour emergency. So a person whose dog was hit by a car at midnight called the phone number in the AD. The answering service would take the call . Dr would call back and make arrangements to meet at the clinic.
    Nowadays that’s done by looking online for vet websites a direct call to the on call that day vet and meet vet at the clinic.

    Did it myself when 5/30 AM Bear went out for a quick pee. He decided to go after the big old nasty vicious raccoon that lived under the deck. Bear came back screeching blood flowing fractured leg. Found vet site called answering person told us to head for the clinic and she’d have someone there. We loaded 90 pound whimpering Bear into car. With kid to hold soothe and cuddle him. I and vet arrived about the same time. Gave Bear to vet. Went home kid and I got dressed fixed bagel and cream cheese Went to work Husband picked Bear up on the way home. Kids had big comfy bed arranged for him. Bear loved attention and petting.

    Liberals. Some ordinary event like a sick day, sick injured dog and they approach it with shock and awe. Like they just discovered it . And the rest of us stupid proles are so stupid we don’t even know the problem exists..

    Or 2 adults or a single parent can’t take a dog to the vet and get the parents and kids to work and school the same day.

    What a despicable helpless wimp is Kristoff.

    Replies: @photondancer, @Buffalo Joe, @Buffalo Joe, @Desiderius, @J.Ross, @Triteleia Laxa, @Days of Broken Arrows

    He’s desperate to follow someone worthy of being followed.

    Are we leading?

    • Replies: @anon
    @Desiderius

    He’s desperate to follow someone worthy of being followed.

    Lol. No, not even. Personality assessment fail.

    Are we leading?

    Does spamming comboxes really count as "leading"?

    Replies: @Desiderius

  159. @Alden
    @JohnnyWalker123

    How about parents teaching kids to become independent take care of pets do laundry cook dinner do chores at an early age?

    Your plans sound practical. Something like a medieval monastery for married couples with kids or a kibbutz

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    I feel like kids are increasingly dependent on their parents these days. It’d help lighten the load a lot if kids could take on chores, as they did in the old days.

    Parenting isn’t meant to be done just by mom and dad. Usually extended family helped in the past. That should be encouraged too. Too much is placed on parents.

  160. This is when it became clear that Raytheon/LockMart were calling the shots. Still are far as I can tell. Clyburn gang as senior partners.

    • Replies: @Whiskey
    @Desiderius

    Except they got rolled by Clyburn as usual. Nothing so stupid and gullible as Older White guys. The Regency is cutting the Navy, Air Force, and Army, while Lloyd Austin is purging not just the enlisted men but senior officers for being too White. Replacing them with men/women his own skin color.

    They should have stuck with Trump. Instead, the military on China's orders is being gutted both in manpower/equipment and with people -- replacing White leaders with black ones. That's why they are trotting out the Chinese defector, the lab origin, etc. That stuff does not appear in media without someone saying so, this time the various Military people and contractors.

    Who frankly were idiots. Clyburn and company don't care about Raytheon or some White General getting a lobbying job. They care about GIBS. G-I-B-S. And the only way for more GIBS is for defense spending to be cut. Which China fueling woke wants also. So for Whitey its lose-lose-lose as always. Yes 11 fewer ships and one carrier group axed for the Navy. Yes the Army reduced by about 60,000 men. Yes cutbacks galore in defense spending. Dems are the black party and the black party wants GIBS.
    ----------
    As far as feminism goes, the reason it is popular is because it reflects what women want. Women neither want nor need a husband, if he is not 100% certain an Alpha. Only Alphas matter. The idea of a husband and kids is simply irrelevant to most women, now, given the resources available.

    Really, the old Western "WEIRD" patterns of the nuclear family and monogamy clearly no longer work, because women in the West reject them. And that's why TFR is something around 1.00 or so for most Western Women. Its just is not working. We need women not to have endless choice, but rather pretty much no choice at all. We've tried it this way since 1920. The result is ... this.

    Replies: @Ralph L

  161. @kaganovitch
    @JohnnyWalker123

    It’s like you can’t even catch your breath these days.

    And as soon as you do, there is Jeffrey Epstein!

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    Give the man a break.

    He’s willing to babysit your daughter for free!

  162. @Michael S
    No one believes in the mythical "gender pay gap" anymore, not even the most devout shitlibs. And in any event, I am reliably informed that male and female are just arbitrary labels; can't these women just choose to identify as men and reap the benefits of those 28 cents?

    No prizes for guessing whether or not the whamen being interviewed is childless, unmarried or married to a sad omega, and rates about a 2 to 4.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Desiderius, @Bardon Kaldian, @peterike

    No one believes in the mythical “gender pay gap” anymore, not even the most devout shitlibs.

    What? Are you kidding? I’d say probably 70% of Americans believe this completely, and 99% of Liberals.

    • Agree: Desiderius, dfordoom
  163. @JohnnyWalker123
    I'll solve the problem.

    -Offer more flex-time for employees, especially women with children.
    -More online work options (especially meetings), even if for just for a fraction of the workweek.
    -More part-time work options, including high-paying White-collar jobs.
    -Parent-Teacher conferences online or on the weekend.
    -Daycare centers that are located inside the work facility.
    -Medical&dental facilities located inside the work facility, to see the doctor&dentist at work.
    -Make it easier to see the doctor and dentist during the weekend.
    -More online options for kids when they're sick.
    -Giving kids supplements at school (Zinc, Vit C, Vit D) to minimize sick days.
    -More ready-made, cheap, easy meal options from the grocery store. Grab&go.
    -Expand school lunch to all kids (even wealthy). Also, offer healthier&better tasting options.
    -Expand school breakfast.
    -School-organized carpools (or just more buses) to get kids home. Saves mom a trip.
    -Re-integrate middle-aged moms who've been out of the workforce for years.
    -Provide time off for moms who have to leave the workforce to be caregivers.
    -Longer school days and more summer school options.
    -Getting kids to complete their homework in school (with teacher assistance), which would be really helpful to parents.
    -If kids stay late enough, school dinners can be an option.
    -Provide a stipend to older relatives (such as grandparents) to take care of kids.
    -Schools can teach kids to become more independent at an early age and to take on more chores.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Colin Wright, @Alden, @Kent Nationalist, @Bardon Kaldian, @Bill Jones, @Prof. Woland, @epochehusserl, @Jim Bob Lassiter

    The Entrepreneur Gap is what is killing white men. If women and minorities stepped up and built companies and institutions just like white men did, then they would be the one’s forced to hire outsiders such as WM rather than it always being carried around like a sack of potatoes. The reason there is so much pressure on HR departments and existing employers to hire from the bottom of the barrel is that there is no reciprocal pressure. If WAM went through what WM did, they would have a better appreciation of the difficulty. We cannot all be victims.

    Both Feminism and BLM ideologies are reflexive. They just look at what whitey has and piss and moan about they they can’t have it. They are rent seeking parasites.

    One of the reason there is so much competition to get into top universities is that no new ones are being build. WAM base their entire measure of success on how many get into existing schools and none on founding new ones. There is no reason for WM to found them because they stand nothing to gain. We already did that and look at what it got us.

  164. @Cortes
    The veterinary world imagined is that of “Rover” and other small animals. Where are the legions of women available to deal with the calving problem at 0300 on Sunday, &c?

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Alden

    The dairy cow farmers take care of the births. If there’s a problem the farmer just grabs and pulls the calf out dead or alive. My brother’s never had a vet at calving time. No reason. The beef cows have the calves out in the fields. I think the only farm animals that have vets in attendance are the mares at the breeding farms for ultra expensive horses.

    The big thing that keeps new comers going into large animal practice is the expense. They use fitted out huge trucks that are a mobile clinic. With all the equipment. Cost more than a million dollars Add that to the cost of 8 years college. Takes a life time of work to pay it all off. And of course the mobile clinic needs replacing at least once in a 40 year career .

    Most stock farmers can take care of most medical needs. And if they can’t? Call the knackers. That’s where Burger King and MacDonald’s hamburger meat comes from. Dairy and beef cows too old to produce milk and calves. .

    • Replies: @Cortes
    @Alden

    Thanks for that explanation. I must’ve been recalling some scenes from the BBC series based on the James Herriot novels, cosy nostalgic period drama with plenty of farm visits. Standard Sunday evening prime time fare for many years.

    , @Jimbo
    @Alden

    Cow #341 is an investment. Fluffy or Fido are family. You pay what it takes to cure family. you pay what pays back for cow #341.

  165. @angmoh
    Industries finding ways for work norms to be a little less soul-destroying is a good thing. Feminisation of society has good and bad effects - this kind of stuff is one of the good

    Hyperproductive CEOs getting milked for every ounce of value they provide for the remuneration they get is great for society - but work hours / output for the vast majority are subject to much different value propositions.

    Replies: @Dutch Boy, @Jmaie, @Jim Bob Lassiter

    Hyperproductive CEOs getting milked for every ounce of value they provide…

    Going out on a limb here and guessing you’ve never worked with or at the higher echelons of a large corporate entity? People who end up CEO are there because they like the lifestyle.

    Whether even the most hyperproductive CEO is worth what they’re paid is another discussion.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/business/corporations/ceos-public-u-s-firms-earn-320-times-much-workers-n1263195

    • Replies: @angmoh
    @Jmaie

    It's just a general comment that I'm ok with the tiny minority of very productive people in society working extremely hard and be compensated accordingly, and norms existing to promote that. I don't care whether or not corporate CEOs specifically are actually productive or 'deserve' what they get.

  166. What the Hell is so great about having a career, anyway?

    The Feminist obsession with “career” is approaching the level of a mania.

  167. @Desiderius
    @Alden

    He’s desperate to follow someone worthy of being followed.

    Are we leading?

    Replies: @anon

    He’s desperate to follow someone worthy of being followed.

    Lol. No, not even. Personality assessment fail.

    Are we leading?

    Does spamming comboxes really count as “leading”?

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @anon

    Nope.

    I took my three whacks and semi-retired now.

    You?

  168. @Alden
    Blah blah blah blah blah. What year is this? I believe the first draft was written in 1971. And why only worry about lawyers and accountants? Why not worry about waitresses sales clerks bus drivers and other working mothers? . As for the lawyers and accountants married to other lawyers and accounts I suppose you’ve never heard of household help? Neighbors? Baby sitters? Household help agencies? They do exist. Older children and teens? Making arrangements ahead of time?

    Lawyers only need to be in their offices for depositions and meetings any more. They can file lawsuits and responses online. And , recruit? enlist? whatever new clients by email text and phone calls. And make an appointment to meet in the office on scheduled office days.

    Back when veterinarians were all men, they usually had several vets in one clinic and were open all day Saturday and till 9 in the evenings. And they had phone book ADs. That said 24 hour emergency. So a person whose dog was hit by a car at midnight called the phone number in the AD. The answering service would take the call . Dr would call back and make arrangements to meet at the clinic.
    Nowadays that’s done by looking online for vet websites a direct call to the on call that day vet and meet vet at the clinic.

    Did it myself when 5/30 AM Bear went out for a quick pee. He decided to go after the big old nasty vicious raccoon that lived under the deck. Bear came back screeching blood flowing fractured leg. Found vet site called answering person told us to head for the clinic and she’d have someone there. We loaded 90 pound whimpering Bear into car. With kid to hold soothe and cuddle him. I and vet arrived about the same time. Gave Bear to vet. Went home kid and I got dressed fixed bagel and cream cheese Went to work Husband picked Bear up on the way home. Kids had big comfy bed arranged for him. Bear loved attention and petting.

    Liberals. Some ordinary event like a sick day, sick injured dog and they approach it with shock and awe. Like they just discovered it . And the rest of us stupid proles are so stupid we don’t even know the problem exists..

    Or 2 adults or a single parent can’t take a dog to the vet and get the parents and kids to work and school the same day.

    What a despicable helpless wimp is Kristoff.

    Replies: @photondancer, @Buffalo Joe, @Buffalo Joe, @Desiderius, @J.Ross, @Triteleia Laxa, @Days of Broken Arrows

    Kristoff’s probably not a wimp. He simped for third world minge, that’s bravery and stupidity blending together. What is important about him is that, as our universities become worthless, he has perfect credentials on paper but writes like a particularly bad AI content generator. So he’s a living symbol of the effortfully worthless university education.

  169. @Lycurgus
    lol, vets have top 10 depression/ suicide rates, definitely model that

    Replies: @guest007, @Old Prude

    An article on the subject. At least your physician is not responsible to euthanatize you when you have a terminal disease or your family can no longer afford to care for you.

    https://time.com/5670965/veterinarian-suicide-help/

    • Replies: @BB753
    @guest007

    "At least your physician is not responsible to euthanatize you when you have a terminal disease or your family can no longer afford to care for you."

    Not just yet, but it's coming.

    Replies: @guest007

  170. I was typically the one who flew off to cover coups, leaving Sheryl (who has more graduate degrees than I do) to deal with the kids’ birthday planning or the bat in the bedroom.

    Because if there’s one thing that make you an expert on coups, it’s having lots of graduate degrees. Those upstart Majors plotting mutiny in their barracks really respect that Masters degree in Public Policy from Columbia.

  171. @Altai
    @Desiderius

    I'm not sure. CRT seems to just be anti-white animus + post-modernist gibberish. It seems to have first emerged in the 60s when the first 'African American Studies' departments were established. And Dr. Francis Cress Welsing first put into words what looks like the proto-form of CRT at Howard.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdUR3DnbEw0

    Remember, academic credentialism means PhDs have to come from somewhere and so just a few academics can spawn the whole basis of a field. Given that many professions are now either students or students of students of Cress, you can see how things got here.

    To this day the Howard 'Africana' department is taught by one of Cress' students and goes on an annual trip (Except 2020 and maybe 2021 obviously) to Egypt where they are taught the 'true' history of 'Kemet'. They even perform some weird ancestor worship rituals.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxF48mRwnrY

    Howard is where Nick Cannon was taught all this weird Afrocentrist stuff.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @James J O'Meara, @El Dato

    Once more, white people (Harvard) are appropriating/stealing the creations of Black bodies.

    Or, if you don’t fall for Curtis Yarvin’s scam, that’s “Fellow White People”.

  172. @Stan D Mute
    @SimpleSong

    You are hilarious. And anesthesia is.. well .. oddly addictive. After several dozen times being anesthetized, and after a NDE (or maybe I just fucking died and that angelic cracker bitch resurrected me in the amberlamps), I am reminded of the anesthesiologists. Those who are paid more than the surgeons, more than the hospital itself, to make sure that you have a peaceful ride.

    Ask yourself. “Self, why are anesthesiologists the highest paid medical specialty”? Self? You have an answer?

    Replies: @Jmaie, @Graham

    Those who are paid more than the surgeons, more than the hospital itself, to make sure that you have a peaceful ride…Ask yourself. “Self, why are anesthesiologists the highest paid medical specialty”?

    Anesthesiologists are paid to make sure the patient is far enough under to allow surgery but not so far they don’t come back. They pose the greatest risk to the hospital’s insurer…

    • Replies: @scrivener3
    @Jmaie


    Anesthesiologists are paid to make sure the patient is far enough under to allow surgery but not so far they don’t come back. They pose the greatest risk to the hospital’s insurer…
     
    Uh, I think they are paid to put a drug in you to paralyze you, then they insert a ventilator down your throat to breathe for you because you are paralyzed (the difficult part), then you are good to go for surgery. You are not going to flinch no matter what happens.

    They try to stop you from feeling pain, but as a friend/anesthesiologist said "no one ever died from pain." And you can die from sedation.

    If it becomes obvious you are awake during cutting and hammering and yanking, they can give you versed, which causes:

    Loss of memory while the drug is being administered and for a while afterward (The drug is often used because of this side effect.)
     
    See, you wake up only remembering counting backwards from 100. Raises the philosophical issue, did it occur if you cannot remember it?
  173. @Yancey Ward
    @Barack Obama's secret Unz account

    I was wondering the same thing. What the f**k does a graduate degree have to do with a journalist covering a coup?

    Replies: @Barack Obama's secret Unz account, @James J O'Meara

    It certifies that the bearer has been adequately indoctrinated into the correct worldview, so as to ensure he/she covers the coup “correctly”.

    BTW, the ideology is everywhere, so the actual “subject matter” doesn’t, um, matter.

    “His brain has not only been washed, but dry cleaned!” — The Manchurian Candidate

  174. @Richard of Melbourne
    @SimpleSong

    On the other hand pretty much all innovation that I see tends to be driven by males ...

    A point that Germaine Greer, no less, agreed with in the following terms (I quote from memory):

    "If it weren't for men we would all still be living in grass huts."

    Replies: @photondancer, @Almost Missouri, @Jmaie, @Culpeper

    A point that Germaine Greer, no less, agreed with in the following terms (I quote from memory):

    “If it weren’t for men we would all still be living in grass huts.”

    To paraphrase Fred Reed, civilization without men would last just until the first oil change was needed.

  175. @Anon
    The article is paywalled. But from the blurbs, I already know the score. Kristof, the good NYT goy, found a nice Jewish Economist, Goldin, to cite.

    Just from reading Goldin's comments, I know immediately she is either from U Chicago or Columbia. Columbia for standard Jewish communists; U Chicago for Jewish sperg libertarians. In Jewish culture, there is little in-between, except when it comes to international aid towards Israel or taxing private equity. Miraculously, on those subjects, they find common ground.

    U Chicago is famous for Jewish economists taking normal, genetically-ingrained Gentile gender roles and theoretically shoe-horning them into mathematical models of economic specialization.

    Looking at her Wikipedia page, sure enough, I'm correct. Shockingly, she also regularly co-authors with Lawrence Katz. Mind blown.

    At this this point, can we acknowledge Harvard is a shtetl for Jewish boomers?

    Replies: @James J O'Meara

    This is why paywalls won’t work for the MSM: the content is so formulaic as to be predictable to anyone with half a brain.

  176. @Anon 2
    OT: French Open

    Americans have again been humiliated at tennis. Coco Gauff, black tennis player,
    who was the last remaining American in singles, had an ugly outburst when
    she realized she was being easily defeated by a Czech player. No impulse
    control at all. It doesn’t help that at a tender age she already has a huge ego, being
    brainwashed by her dad to believe she’s the next Serena Williams.

    It’s always amusing to see blacks realize that there are two kinds of white
    people. The kind they are used to are Western Europeans (incl. Germanics)
    and their descendants, who invaded the world, colonized it, enslaved it, and
    now, full of self-loathing, are slowly twisting in guilt. The other kind of
    whites that blacks are not used to are mostly of Slavic origin - a huge group.
    In Europe the Slavs at 240 million outnumber Germanics, at 120 million,
    2 to 1. This other kind of whites never participated in colonialism or
    slave trade, and therefore don’t feel the slightest guilt about humiliating
    blacks in sports or in any other endeavor. Black supremacists who
    talked themselves into believing that blacks have no equal in sports,
    music, and sex, don’t know how to deal with this other group of whites.

    P.S. It’s still humiliating that a country of 335 million people can no longer
    produce a good American-born tennis player. Forget about great, someone who
    regularly reaches semifinals would do.

    Replies: @Peter D. Bredon, @Marty T

    Yeah, well, Der Fuhrer said they were subhumans, so there’s that.

  177. @Nicholas Stix
    The fake journalist and the fake economist are recycling lies that were debunked over 30 years ago.

    “Women today outnumber men in colleges, in law schools and in medical schools.”

    That’s because of systemic sex discrimination, which doesn’t bother the fake journo or the fake economist in the least.

    The problem is feminist hubris, dishonesty, and sexism. Feminists want to get paid the same as men, but for less work, so they can also have kids. The feminists used to call it, “Having it all.”

    Thirty-odd years ago, Meredith Vieira (who was never much of a journalist, to begin with) played this particular sex card. She wanted to work part time for 60 Minutes, while getting paid the same as her colleagues, who worked much harder.

    60 Minutes producer Don Hewitt reportedly fired her. In the same circumstances today, the front office suits would fire Hewitt, and give Vieira his job.

    From what I can see, said feminists aren’t even child-oriented. Kids are for them status symbols. I recall how, 20 years ago, conversations I’d read about between yuppy females, where A is considering moving to B’s neighborhood, always included the line, “And the child-care is wonderful.”

    You mean, poor, West Indian or Hispanic women who were great baby-sitters lived in the same, overpriced neighborhoods, and worked at starvation rates for the White women, who had no interest in raising their own children?

    Replies: @Stan Adams, @Achmed E. Newman, @S. Anonyia

    Gold box for Nick Stix, if this were a fair world. OK, nevermind.

  178. @Triteleia Laxa
    It is easy for a smart and ambitious woman to combine her career with kids. She only need do exactly what men with the same desires do, and find a spouse who is less ambitious than her, and support them financially, in return for them looking after the house.

    That means sacrificing a big part of your pay cheque, and a lot of the concomitant consumerism; but there's no lack of men who will agree.

    Or, if they're exceptionally bright and ambitious, they could run their husband's concern, from home, using him like a puppet. Women have done this for millenia.

    What they can't do, is not really work and yet earn as much as someone who does. I would love that, but I would always love to have my cake and eat it.

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans, @Travis, @Dissident, @Anonymous Jew, @YetAnotherAnon

    good point. But most women would rather stay single than marry a less educated man with little ambition. Another issue is that women change. My wife was more interested in her career than having kids when she was 27 but at 32 she wanted kids and a less demanding career. So even if a career women finds a good mate wiling to support her and do more of the child care, once the baby arrives they typically want to be home with the kids at the expense of their career.

    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
    @Travis


    good point. But most women would rather stay single than marry a less educated man with little ambition
     
    I never see it mentioned as an option, even though it is a common sense synthesis of traditional values and feminism.

    Sometimes a theoretical option has to be offered, for anyone to consider it, no matter how obvious it seems.

    So even if a career women finds a good mate wiling to support her and do more of the child care, once the baby arrives they typically want to be home with the kids at the expense of their career.
     
    May my life be filled with tough choices. The alternative is far worse.
  179. @Hangnail Hans
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Of the many women I've known who graduated from prestigious law schools, only two are practicing law, and one of them just barely.

    Although law can be very lucrative, it's not always fun and easy.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @ThreeCranes

    And bearing in mind the truth of what you say, career counselors in the past quietly shunted young women into careers the pursuit of which wouldn’t displace capable boys/men from available scholastic lab space etc, thereby maximizing the utility of our educational institutions.

    Contrary to the feminist myth, there was no hard and fast law that prevented young women from pursuing careers in professional occupations. It’s just that professional counselors in the past pretty much knew the numbers and took that into account in their recommendations for appropriate careers for women.

    Feminism is a bunch of lies and distortions, straw men and wicked witch of the west women.

    “How about a little fire, scarecrow?

    “Who would have thought a good little girl like you could destroy my beautiful wickedness?”

    Every man needs an Ariadne to help lead him out of the wicked snares that have been set for him by the (((women and men))) who are today trying to offer him up as a sacrifice to their Moloch God.

  180. anon[142] • Disclaimer says:

    Libtards, feministas, etc. are routinely innumerate.

    Assume that the “78%” or whatever number is true. Then any business could make nice bank by hiring women to do the same exact job as men; since they will work for less money, the company makes more profits. In fact, if “78%” were true every successful business would be clamoring for more women to do the work of men at about 0.8 the cost.

    This isn’t happening. Therefore the assumption is false. There are other factors being neglected, for ideological reasons. It is the same old leftard shell game.

    Duh.

  181. “Women continue to feel shortchanged,”

    Women whine. In other news, dog bites man.

  182. Anon[231] • Disclaimer says:

    OT

    Andrew Sullivan questions “Why have murder rates spiked so badly over the last 12 months? No one seems to know, and perhaps it is simply impossible to know at this point.”

    After sifting through the data …

    So this scenario prompts a question of supreme irony: what if the final legacy of Black Lives Matter is that it actually succeeds in its core goal, and that in the future, far fewer African-Americans are shot by the cops. And what if the price of this symbolic victory is, in fact, a huge increase in the numbers of innocent black lives lost to civilian murder? That’s a trade-off worth discussing, before it becomes a new norm that’s very hard to undo.

    https://andrewsullivan.substack.com/p/the-grim-trade-off-of-blm-29d

  183. @HbutnotG
    @SimpleSong

    Chicks generally lack the mechanical instinct men are more likely to have. Handwriting is a form of "parroting" that is, "imitating." Anybody can do it, boy or girl - you just have to be motivated. Elementary aged girls are just by nature "better handwriters" because they like to please the teacher to a larger degree than boys do, and since handwriting is a subjective thing to evaluate, girls make it "pretty" and teacher is pleased.

    Surgery and other doctor skills are better handled by men, although some women have a good mechanical instinct, and can perform well in these tasks.

    But women more mechanically deft? No. Watch one drive a car some time.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Alden

    Handwriting has not been taught in American public schools for at least 25 years.

    • Disagree: Achmed E. Newman
  184. @Simon in London
    Telegraph article on Steve's favourite topic https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/work/lukwesa-burak-panicked-reading-bbc-news-afro/

    Lukwesa Burak: ‘I panicked before reading the BBC news in my afro’
    After years of styling her hair for camera, the presenter says she wanted to set an example for others by appearing on TV as her true self

    By
    Lukwesa Burak
    11 June 2021 • 12:37pm
    Lukwesa Burak
    For Lukwesa Burak, there is a fine line between saying that black hair is a distraction for viewers CREDIT: Lukwesa Burak
    Last month, as I was getting ready to present the BBC’s One O’Clock News, the magnitude of what I was about to do hadn’t quite sunk in: I was about to go live on national television wearing my natural hair.

    It was, I think, the first time the BBC has ever had a black person with a large(-ish…) afro reading the news.

    Earlier that day, I’d gone through initial nerves when coming into work with my natural hair “unhidden”, in a neat bun style. I had already broken out into a cold sweat at the prospect of going in front of the cameras with it, and thought this could go terribly wrong. I know how the general public can react.

    But before I started to panic, I calmed myself down… and just did it. I was shaking, relieved and so anxious as I came off air, but I needn’t have worried.

    I’ve been inundated with praise – notably from parents, who shared that their daughters were inspired by my confidence to wear my own natural hair. It made me feel rather emotional.


    It’s so easy to forget that how you present yourself speaks to viewers in ways you can easily take for granted. Some have told me of their journey in deciding to cut off their hair, while others started conversations with their teachers about it, and have now vowed to embrace whatever direction their hair grows in.

    There were some negative comments, but they’re by the by and to be expected.

    I’ve worn my hair natural but short for a number of years, but never long. It’s a very personal choice. Because our hair is so versatile, black women can explore different hairstyles. I’ve worn mine in so many styles, and often in its natural form, but styled. So it might be pulled in a bun, blow-dried straight, set in curlers... like all women, we have a choice and should not think black, textured, curly hair is “bad”, and straight, blonde hair is “good”. Curly hair is just as beautiful and professional as straight European hair.

    It made me think about the messages we share with children, and how hugely significant it can be for other young girls to see more real-life role models. Even though a “natural hair movement” has exploded online – where black women are embracing their authentic selves and natural hair textures – seeing it in real life is a very different story.

    We’re still hearing stories about young girls and boys facing hair discrimination in their schools. This breaks my heart as it does so much damage to confidence and self-esteem at such a tender and informative age. It was my absolute honour to broadcast with my “new TV hair”.

    It’s something I’m also encouraging my 13-year-old daughter to do as well: to love her natural hair as it cannot be permanently changed.

    Lukwesa Burak and daughter
    Burak says she has had to teach her 13-year-old daughter to love her hair CREDIT: Lukwesa Burak
    When she was young I had quite a big job learning about her hair. It’s finer than mine, a softer curl, as my husband is white, but I still had to educate myself and teach her, too. We’ve had the conversations about her wanting to have straight hair like her friends, and I too went down the route of looking for role models to show her how beautiful her hair is. I did struggle but, funnily enough, it was in France that we found the most help in finding “curly women”. French women and celebrities wore their curly hairstyles the most. It’s important that I start building her confidence now so she can accept and nurture the hair that she has.

    Last year, while I was working at BBC World on a special news programme covering Africa, I decided to go on air with a major afro. There was a lot of volume. I didn’t feel nervous, there were no problems, and I received many positive compliments about my hair, because I was talking to people who looked like me. And that is key: representation. I was dressed in a suit and still looked professional. But saying this, it has taken me a while to build up this level of confidence – to wear my afro on the main BBC news.

    Lukwesa Burak with permed hair
    Burak has experimented with various styles CREDIT: Lukwesa Burak
    It took me back to my childhood when I wore my hair naturally as my mother didn’t prescribe to “creamy crack” – the chemical relaxers both men and women were “addicted” to, especially in the 70s and 80s. To be honest, we couldn’t even afford it, as it requires you having to visit your hairdresser every three months. But, as a teenager, I started wearing braids – a traditional styling choice for black hair – which eventually weakens your hair if you wear them for too long.

    I also lost my hair after being bullied, which triggered a form of dermatitis. I had to wear a white woolly cap to school which meant even more bullying. However, what this taught me was that I am very comfortable having short hair, and that it’ll always grow back.

    But it was when I turned 16 or 17 that I applied my first relaxer – basically, a drain cleaner that straightens the texture of hair – and I lost most of it. There are risks and issues with most styles. With black hair, you have to use products with caution and fully understand what you’re getting yourself into. But even natural hair can be high maintenance.

    Before starting my career in the media – before newsreading, I used to be a consultant – I wore braids. It was just easier for me, but it was still frightening as I was worried that I may look “too ethnic”, a remark that was made to me when I first started working at the BBC a very long time ago, while having a discussion with a manager about the styling choices and protocols that can and cannot work on screen.

    In the early 2000s, when I cut my hair to a number three – pretty short – I was told that I looked like a man. On social media, people called me an “ugly monkey” that should go back to the jungle and said that I had a big fat nose.

    Lukwesa Burak
    When she cut her hair to a number three, Lukwesa Burak was told that she looked like a man CREDIT: Lukwesa Burak
    Those messages shattered my confidence. I also remember wearing a weave when I worked at Sky News. It was horrendous and made me look like I had an oversized and unstyled wig on top of my head. I was even left with a bald patch by my hairline until my manager, at the time, told me to forget about the boundaries I had been given when it came to styling my own hair. He recognised and respected the fact that I knew my hair best, and let me get on with it.

    I worked very closely with my own stylist, Junior Green, and we tried different styles. I even wore a wig at one point when growing my hair. And it was at Sky News that I first bit the bullet and wore my hair natural for the first time on-air.

    There are a lot of presenters, news anchors and reporters who have had to change the style and texture of their hair, because it’s part of the job. Thinking about it, we all style our hair for our professional look. So when I was asked “Are you going on air like that?” when I entered a newsroom with my natural voluminous curls, however innocent that comment was, it knocked me back.

    The rule, though – especially when you are on screen – is that you cannot be a distraction to viewers. Yet there is a fine line between saying that black hair is a distraction. Yes, I’ve got big hair with more volume, but it’s not a distraction, and neither is it untidy. The British public is far more erudite than people give them credit for. Society is so rich in diversity these days, that we see and live the real side of a multicultural world, and it’s about time that is reflected on screen. So it’s important for people to continue educating themselves and remember women have a choice.

    As told to Luke Mintz. Additional reporting: Yolanthe Fawehinmi

    Related Topics
    Hair loss, Inequality, Racism, Hair, BBC, Hairstyles

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Jonathan Mason, @Triteleia Laxa, @AnotherDad

    Yes, I’ve got big hair with more volume, but it’s not a distraction, and neither is it untidy. The British public is far more erudite than people give them credit for.

    Which people?

    What does “erudite” have to do with hair?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Combo breaker: does she know what erudite means?

  185. Anon[231] • Disclaimer says:

    OT

    F.D.A. Tells Johnson & Johnson 60 Million Doses Can’t Be Used

    Regulators told the company that the virus vaccine shots made in a troubled Baltimore factory are not usable because of possible contamination.

    https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/06/11/world/covid-vaccine-coronavirus-mask/

    A vaccine factory in … Baltimore? Surely … they … didn’t hire local vibrants … did they?

    Some Emergent BioSolutions employees failed to shower at a Baltimore plant, ignoring protocol, an FDA report said.

    Some staff failed to shower or change their clothes at the Emergent BioSolutions plant in Baltimore.

    “Systemic” failures in sanitation and training “led to the destruction of millions” of doses, a House committee said.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/jj-vaccine-baltimore-plant-emergent-johnson-johnson-contaminated-shower-staff-2021-5

    Showering is a rule of whiteness. Following rules is whiteness.

    They spent a week going through the factory and reviewing security camera footage that showed employees carelessly handling vaccine materials.

    https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/ap-source-jj-doses-released-tossed-78222006

    Sounds like they have higher standards than McDonald’s, at least:

    III. MINIMUM EDUCATION, EXPERIENCE, SKILLS

    HS diploma with 3 or more years’ experience with production processes under GMP compliance OR

    Associate degree in a Scientific, Engineering or Biotech field with 2 or years’ experience with or biologic production processes under GMP compliance OR

    Bachelor’s degree in a Scientific, Engineering or Biotech field with 0-1 years’ experience with biologic production processes under GMP compliance

    Outstanding knowledge, and ability to apply scientific principles utilized to solve operational, as well as routine production tasks

    Excellent documentation skills including comprehension, review & establishing Batch Production Records, SOP’s, deviation & summary reports

    https://careers.emergentbiosolutions.com/job/Baltimore-%28Bayview%29-BioProcess-Associate-MD-21224/753809800/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_manufacturing_practice

    In a pandemic, maybe it’s worth the risk to use iffy vaccine … but you’d have to keep it secret.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Anon

    "a troubled Baltimore factory"

    Next it will demand trans rights.



    Emergent signed a $628 million contract with the US government in June last year to expand manufacturing capacity of COVID-19 vaccines. The government asked J&J to take charge of the Baltimore plant following the contamination incident.

     



    The House memo also said that Emergent executives "reaped a windfall as vaccines were destroyed," and that Kramer had received a $1.2 million bonus in 2020 for his "exceptional leadership."
     
    An adequate punishment would be to pump them full of their own vaccine. Over and over.
  186. @Alden
    Blah blah blah blah blah. What year is this? I believe the first draft was written in 1971. And why only worry about lawyers and accountants? Why not worry about waitresses sales clerks bus drivers and other working mothers? . As for the lawyers and accountants married to other lawyers and accounts I suppose you’ve never heard of household help? Neighbors? Baby sitters? Household help agencies? They do exist. Older children and teens? Making arrangements ahead of time?

    Lawyers only need to be in their offices for depositions and meetings any more. They can file lawsuits and responses online. And , recruit? enlist? whatever new clients by email text and phone calls. And make an appointment to meet in the office on scheduled office days.

    Back when veterinarians were all men, they usually had several vets in one clinic and were open all day Saturday and till 9 in the evenings. And they had phone book ADs. That said 24 hour emergency. So a person whose dog was hit by a car at midnight called the phone number in the AD. The answering service would take the call . Dr would call back and make arrangements to meet at the clinic.
    Nowadays that’s done by looking online for vet websites a direct call to the on call that day vet and meet vet at the clinic.

    Did it myself when 5/30 AM Bear went out for a quick pee. He decided to go after the big old nasty vicious raccoon that lived under the deck. Bear came back screeching blood flowing fractured leg. Found vet site called answering person told us to head for the clinic and she’d have someone there. We loaded 90 pound whimpering Bear into car. With kid to hold soothe and cuddle him. I and vet arrived about the same time. Gave Bear to vet. Went home kid and I got dressed fixed bagel and cream cheese Went to work Husband picked Bear up on the way home. Kids had big comfy bed arranged for him. Bear loved attention and petting.

    Liberals. Some ordinary event like a sick day, sick injured dog and they approach it with shock and awe. Like they just discovered it . And the rest of us stupid proles are so stupid we don’t even know the problem exists..

    Or 2 adults or a single parent can’t take a dog to the vet and get the parents and kids to work and school the same day.

    What a despicable helpless wimp is Kristoff.

    Replies: @photondancer, @Buffalo Joe, @Buffalo Joe, @Desiderius, @J.Ross, @Triteleia Laxa, @Days of Broken Arrows

    Feminists claim to care deeply about vulnerable women.

    I remember them writing a lot about how some female multimillionaire tv presenters had accepted less pay than their male colleagues who did a different job.

    I don’t remember them mentioning the ~20,000 girls already identified as abused by Pakistani grooming gangs, even though it continues.

    When people say “I care” they are usually sincere, but they are also usually deluded. Feminists who claim to care about the suffering of women should be laughed out of the room.* Their attention is never where the suffering is and always where whatever flatters them most, by proxy.

    So what if women in Africa are second class citizens, Captain Marvel was sure a badass b*tch!

    Not that anyone should have to care, but nobody has to enable their delusions either.

    • Replies: @photondancer
    @Triteleia Laxa

    You seem to be using the label 'feminist' very selectively.

    I see women getting angry about the situation of African (etc.) women all the time. Feminism has a long history of caring for and doing something about the plight of non-pampered class women. Maybe, like quite a few other posters in this thread, you need to go and educate yourself a little.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Getaclue

  187. @Alden
    @Buzz Mohawk

    One thing I have never understood about these fools always whining about day care. They don’t seem to realize that kids don’t stay 3 years old forever. They grow up. In a few years they are 7 or 8 and can come home from school fix a snack and do whatever.

    Now black kids are very different. Black parents really really don’t want their kids home alone because the kids will tear the house apart get their sister pregnant at 11 whatever.

    But other normal kids are perfectly capable of taking care of themselves.

    Other options teens . Kids in the neighborhood happy to come to your home after school watch your younger kids and make $10 an hour. A stay at home mom wants to make extra money. College student if there’s one nearby.

    Most grade schools have homework club fun fun fun computer club and other after school activities.

    Maids. Have the maid work 1-5 instead of 8-12. Order the kids not to bother her.

    Local rec center if you live in the suburbs. Ballet sports teams judo Art this and that Scouts after school.

    Kids love to be independent and macho and take care of themselves. They’re hungry and quickly progress from fixing snacks to fixing dinner. Boys love noisy motors as in washers dryers vacumms and floor buffers.

    Day care is really for unruly thuggish black kids who can’t be trusted to take a bus home from school and stay home without into getting trouble.

    If 2 lawyers or Drs can’t figure it out well, too bad.

    Replies: @S. Anonyia

    Good points. Childcare during daytime hours really shouldn’t last past 3rd grade. I was earning money babysitting neighborhood kids by 12. I would also get dropped off at the mall and theater for a few hours by that age. My parents left me home alone by 8 because they trusted me to take care of my younger sibling. I knew who to call in an emergency, how to prepare simple meals, complete chores, etc.

    I actually resented even small amounts of parental involvement other than help with sports or (occasionally) homework. Spent all my time reading, playing outside, exploring, using the computer. Like you said, I wanted to feel independent.

    Nowadays my 12 year old cousin still HAS a babysitter. All of her activities are organized and structured. Her brothers had babysitters until they were 16. They live in a safer neighborhood than I did growing up, too. Those kids aren’t high achievers and have pretty poor social skills, so I’m not sure what the point of all the parental involvement/supervision is. Giving kids constant stimulation and “enrichment” is a relatively new development. Now it seems almost every educated parent is a helicopter parent.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @S. Anonyia

    As recently as the early 90s, kids were given a lot of freedom and expected to be independent.

    By the early 2000s, you started to see lots of helicopter parenting, especially among the more educated. At this point, helicopter parenting is the norm for all economic classes and races.

    Here's an interesting article about how parents won't let their kids participate in sleepovers anymore. As recently as the late 90s, I recall the overwhelming majority of parents were letting their kids do sleepovers. Not anymore. See below.

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/lifestyles/parenting/sc-fam-parents-against-sleepovers-0905-story.html

    Replies: @Anonymous

  188. @Nicholas Stix
    The fake journalist and the fake economist are recycling lies that were debunked over 30 years ago.

    “Women today outnumber men in colleges, in law schools and in medical schools.”

    That’s because of systemic sex discrimination, which doesn’t bother the fake journo or the fake economist in the least.

    The problem is feminist hubris, dishonesty, and sexism. Feminists want to get paid the same as men, but for less work, so they can also have kids. The feminists used to call it, “Having it all.”

    Thirty-odd years ago, Meredith Vieira (who was never much of a journalist, to begin with) played this particular sex card. She wanted to work part time for 60 Minutes, while getting paid the same as her colleagues, who worked much harder.

    60 Minutes producer Don Hewitt reportedly fired her. In the same circumstances today, the front office suits would fire Hewitt, and give Vieira his job.

    From what I can see, said feminists aren’t even child-oriented. Kids are for them status symbols. I recall how, 20 years ago, conversations I’d read about between yuppy females, where A is considering moving to B’s neighborhood, always included the line, “And the child-care is wonderful.”

    You mean, poor, West Indian or Hispanic women who were great baby-sitters lived in the same, overpriced neighborhoods, and worked at starvation rates for the White women, who had no interest in raising their own children?

    Replies: @Stan Adams, @Achmed E. Newman, @S. Anonyia

    Having nannies was a thing for wealthy women even before feminism. And they hardly get paid “starvation wages” in most communities. Beats working in fast food or a grocery store for someone diligent and conscientious but not all that educated.

    My greatest-generation grandmother was a stay-at-home Mom who employed a cook, nanny, and gardener to help with her household responsibilities. My father has really fond memories of his childhood, didn’t feel neglected whatsoever. My grandparents’ view was that if you could afford to employ help, you basically had a social responsibility to do so.

  189. @Travis
    @Triteleia Laxa

    good point. But most women would rather stay single than marry a less educated man with little ambition. Another issue is that women change. My wife was more interested in her career than having kids when she was 27 but at 32 she wanted kids and a less demanding career. So even if a career women finds a good mate wiling to support her and do more of the child care, once the baby arrives they typically want to be home with the kids at the expense of their career.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    good point. But most women would rather stay single than marry a less educated man with little ambition

    I never see it mentioned as an option, even though it is a common sense synthesis of traditional values and feminism.

    Sometimes a theoretical option has to be offered, for anyone to consider it, no matter how obvious it seems.

    So even if a career women finds a good mate wiling to support her and do more of the child care, once the baby arrives they typically want to be home with the kids at the expense of their career.

    May my life be filled with tough choices. The alternative is far worse.

  190. @reactionry
    Get Me Re-Write Re "Rants"!

    "While in Tokyo, her coverage of Japan in the '90s, together with Nicholas Kristoff's editorial policy, painted the country with mostly negative slants."

    See source of above systemic racism below:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheryl_WuDunn

    Replies: @TTT55

    “Negative slants”? That’s extremely racist.

  191. @Simon in London
    Telegraph article on Steve's favourite topic https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/work/lukwesa-burak-panicked-reading-bbc-news-afro/

    Lukwesa Burak: ‘I panicked before reading the BBC news in my afro’
    After years of styling her hair for camera, the presenter says she wanted to set an example for others by appearing on TV as her true self

    By
    Lukwesa Burak
    11 June 2021 • 12:37pm
    Lukwesa Burak
    For Lukwesa Burak, there is a fine line between saying that black hair is a distraction for viewers CREDIT: Lukwesa Burak
    Last month, as I was getting ready to present the BBC’s One O’Clock News, the magnitude of what I was about to do hadn’t quite sunk in: I was about to go live on national television wearing my natural hair.

    It was, I think, the first time the BBC has ever had a black person with a large(-ish…) afro reading the news.

    Earlier that day, I’d gone through initial nerves when coming into work with my natural hair “unhidden”, in a neat bun style. I had already broken out into a cold sweat at the prospect of going in front of the cameras with it, and thought this could go terribly wrong. I know how the general public can react.

    But before I started to panic, I calmed myself down… and just did it. I was shaking, relieved and so anxious as I came off air, but I needn’t have worried.

    I’ve been inundated with praise – notably from parents, who shared that their daughters were inspired by my confidence to wear my own natural hair. It made me feel rather emotional.


    It’s so easy to forget that how you present yourself speaks to viewers in ways you can easily take for granted. Some have told me of their journey in deciding to cut off their hair, while others started conversations with their teachers about it, and have now vowed to embrace whatever direction their hair grows in.

    There were some negative comments, but they’re by the by and to be expected.

    I’ve worn my hair natural but short for a number of years, but never long. It’s a very personal choice. Because our hair is so versatile, black women can explore different hairstyles. I’ve worn mine in so many styles, and often in its natural form, but styled. So it might be pulled in a bun, blow-dried straight, set in curlers... like all women, we have a choice and should not think black, textured, curly hair is “bad”, and straight, blonde hair is “good”. Curly hair is just as beautiful and professional as straight European hair.

    It made me think about the messages we share with children, and how hugely significant it can be for other young girls to see more real-life role models. Even though a “natural hair movement” has exploded online – where black women are embracing their authentic selves and natural hair textures – seeing it in real life is a very different story.

    We’re still hearing stories about young girls and boys facing hair discrimination in their schools. This breaks my heart as it does so much damage to confidence and self-esteem at such a tender and informative age. It was my absolute honour to broadcast with my “new TV hair”.

    It’s something I’m also encouraging my 13-year-old daughter to do as well: to love her natural hair as it cannot be permanently changed.

    Lukwesa Burak and daughter
    Burak says she has had to teach her 13-year-old daughter to love her hair CREDIT: Lukwesa Burak
    When she was young I had quite a big job learning about her hair. It’s finer than mine, a softer curl, as my husband is white, but I still had to educate myself and teach her, too. We’ve had the conversations about her wanting to have straight hair like her friends, and I too went down the route of looking for role models to show her how beautiful her hair is. I did struggle but, funnily enough, it was in France that we found the most help in finding “curly women”. French women and celebrities wore their curly hairstyles the most. It’s important that I start building her confidence now so she can accept and nurture the hair that she has.

    Last year, while I was working at BBC World on a special news programme covering Africa, I decided to go on air with a major afro. There was a lot of volume. I didn’t feel nervous, there were no problems, and I received many positive compliments about my hair, because I was talking to people who looked like me. And that is key: representation. I was dressed in a suit and still looked professional. But saying this, it has taken me a while to build up this level of confidence – to wear my afro on the main BBC news.

    Lukwesa Burak with permed hair
    Burak has experimented with various styles CREDIT: Lukwesa Burak
    It took me back to my childhood when I wore my hair naturally as my mother didn’t prescribe to “creamy crack” – the chemical relaxers both men and women were “addicted” to, especially in the 70s and 80s. To be honest, we couldn’t even afford it, as it requires you having to visit your hairdresser every three months. But, as a teenager, I started wearing braids – a traditional styling choice for black hair – which eventually weakens your hair if you wear them for too long.

    I also lost my hair after being bullied, which triggered a form of dermatitis. I had to wear a white woolly cap to school which meant even more bullying. However, what this taught me was that I am very comfortable having short hair, and that it’ll always grow back.

    But it was when I turned 16 or 17 that I applied my first relaxer – basically, a drain cleaner that straightens the texture of hair – and I lost most of it. There are risks and issues with most styles. With black hair, you have to use products with caution and fully understand what you’re getting yourself into. But even natural hair can be high maintenance.

    Before starting my career in the media – before newsreading, I used to be a consultant – I wore braids. It was just easier for me, but it was still frightening as I was worried that I may look “too ethnic”, a remark that was made to me when I first started working at the BBC a very long time ago, while having a discussion with a manager about the styling choices and protocols that can and cannot work on screen.

    In the early 2000s, when I cut my hair to a number three – pretty short – I was told that I looked like a man. On social media, people called me an “ugly monkey” that should go back to the jungle and said that I had a big fat nose.

    Lukwesa Burak
    When she cut her hair to a number three, Lukwesa Burak was told that she looked like a man CREDIT: Lukwesa Burak
    Those messages shattered my confidence. I also remember wearing a weave when I worked at Sky News. It was horrendous and made me look like I had an oversized and unstyled wig on top of my head. I was even left with a bald patch by my hairline until my manager, at the time, told me to forget about the boundaries I had been given when it came to styling my own hair. He recognised and respected the fact that I knew my hair best, and let me get on with it.

    I worked very closely with my own stylist, Junior Green, and we tried different styles. I even wore a wig at one point when growing my hair. And it was at Sky News that I first bit the bullet and wore my hair natural for the first time on-air.

    There are a lot of presenters, news anchors and reporters who have had to change the style and texture of their hair, because it’s part of the job. Thinking about it, we all style our hair for our professional look. So when I was asked “Are you going on air like that?” when I entered a newsroom with my natural voluminous curls, however innocent that comment was, it knocked me back.

    The rule, though – especially when you are on screen – is that you cannot be a distraction to viewers. Yet there is a fine line between saying that black hair is a distraction. Yes, I’ve got big hair with more volume, but it’s not a distraction, and neither is it untidy. The British public is far more erudite than people give them credit for. Society is so rich in diversity these days, that we see and live the real side of a multicultural world, and it’s about time that is reflected on screen. So it’s important for people to continue educating themselves and remember women have a choice.

    As told to Luke Mintz. Additional reporting: Yolanthe Fawehinmi

    Related Topics
    Hair loss, Inequality, Racism, Hair, BBC, Hairstyles

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Jonathan Mason, @Triteleia Laxa, @AnotherDad

    Last month, as I was getting ready to present the BBC’s One O’Clock News, the magnitude of what I was about to do hadn’t quite sunk in: I was about to go live on national television wearing my natural hair.

    Geez, what a drama queen. It’s like storming the beaches on D-day. A world historical event.

    You’re on TV in Britain simply because you’re black. Period. There are hundreds of thousands of much better looking, actually British girls who can read the news that people would much rather look at. But the BBC just loves sticking blacks–still a tiny proportion of the population–in the face of actual British people … for reasons.

    And then oh, your precious hair.

    Female solipsism is amazing. And black women just take it off the charts.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @AnotherDad

    Another Dad, what you said sums up in three words...."read the news." An overpaid story teller.

    , @Triteleia Laxa
    @AnotherDad

    “Let the world tremble as it senses all you are about to accomplish."

    , @photondancer
    @AnotherDad

    It's happening here in Oz too. This model (https://www.commbank.com.au/) is raking it in at present. She must be the only light skinned black in Australia and she's appearing in advertisement after advertisement. Lots of other not-too-dark blacks, both sexes, in other advertisements and a lot of BM-WF couples. For what? we have hardly any blacks here and the ones we do have are 50 shades darker because they're Somali or Sudanese. I'm happy to see non-white people in advertisements but make them relevant to Australia, please. This is so obviously pandering to US-centric SJWism it makes me cross.

  192. @War for Blair Mountain
    Off topic:

    Steve

    What did Fort Carson Battalion Commander Lieutenant Andrew Rhodes say to the White Troops under his command?

    Answer:‘the existence of White People is a hate crime against People of Color...”

    Replies: @anon

    Dude, do you know what a hyperlink is?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperlink

    Any 12 year old can earn how to use a search engine and copy-paste. Maybe you can do the same?

    • Troll: JerseyJeffersonian
  193. @Anon
    The way I look at it, women started going to college in large numbers and starting careers as a way to make sure they were not left out in the cold after a divorce. The legal pendulum on that has gone so far now that they needn't worry. And yet 70 percent of divorces are initiated by women, mostly for bullshit reasons, or so claims Aaron Renn of the Masculinist, a Christian men's site: Renn defines bullshit as reasons that wouldn't have passed religious muster before the 60s.

    With this as background, is a husband going to sabotage his career to take his sick kid to the doctor? LOL! No way. And women are so neurotic about kids anyway they take them to the doctor when they don't need to go. How many kids die or have permanent problems from most of the illnesses they experience?

    (On the other hand, CPS didn't used to be around. Here's left-wing Mother Jones on that:

    Do We Need to Abolish Child Protective Services?
    https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/12/do-we-need-to-abolish-child-protective-services/

    And here's Reason:

    Texas Becomes Third State To Pass Free-Range Kids Law
    https://reason.com/2021/05/18/texas-becomes-third-state-to-pass-free-range-kids-law/
    )

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Art Deco

    TwoThreeOne, divorce is a crushing blow to any man who did not see it coming. All I will say about that. And hate eats away at your soul until you expunge it from you life. CPS need better employees not fewer. Anyone who deals with children as part of their career is required to report abuse. Unreported abuse usually does not end but intensifies.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Buffalo Joe


    TwoThreeOne, divorce is a crushing blow to any man who did not see it coming. All I will say about that.
     
    I'm getting the vibe that you think I'm a (bitter) divorced guy. Never been divorced. Decades into a happy marriage.

    Anyone who deals with children as part of their career is required to report abuse. Unreported abuse usually does not end but intensifies.
     
    Of course, but the word "abuse" is doing a lot of work in your sentence. The meaning has expanded by an order of magnitude and there is a CPS industrial complex now, complete with job creation initiatives. With "abuse" correctly defined, you are right.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

  194. I know a couple where Dad and Mom and the kid work the farm dawn to dusk, Mom runs the Farm Market 10 hours 6 days a week. And for a long time they were taking care of a sick old aunt.

    Grow up.

  195. @AnotherDad
    @Simon in London


    Last month, as I was getting ready to present the BBC’s One O’Clock News, the magnitude of what I was about to do hadn’t quite sunk in: I was about to go live on national television wearing my natural hair.
     
    Geez, what a drama queen. It's like storming the beaches on D-day. A world historical event.

    You're on TV in Britain simply because you're black. Period. There are hundreds of thousands of much better looking, actually British girls who can read the news that people would much rather look at. But the BBC just loves sticking blacks--still a tiny proportion of the population--in the face of actual British people ... for reasons.

    And then oh, your precious hair.

    Female solipsism is amazing. And black women just take it off the charts.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Triteleia Laxa, @photondancer

    Another Dad, what you said sums up in three words….”read the news.” An overpaid story teller.

  196. Is it just me, or is wokism about inverting literally everything? Black is white, up is down, left is right, bankers are poisecuted; it goes on ad nauseaum.

    I was typically the one who flew off to cover coups, leaving Sheryl (who has more graduate degrees than I do) to deal with the kids’ birthday planning or the bat in the bedroom.

    So, the husband had to leave at random hours to put out fires at work, while his wife got to spend time with her children, and yet she is the one who has it rough! It seems like these articles always seem to hinge, not on the substance, but on the filler verbage that is used. He “flew off” (flying is fun!) to stressful work, while she had to “deal” with the kids.

    All this female empowerment propaganda is really cartoonish. What is so difficult about telling people – look, a good career is about making money; if you can do what you love great (a privilege few actually get), but there is no free lunch and if you want a really big paycheck, you will sacrifice a lot of nice little things in life. Instead, feminist propaganda sells women on the status and the glamorous image of these careers, rather than encouraging women to see them as a practical means to an end. It’s almost like women get into these career paths thinking it’ll be like an episode of Sex and the City and then lose interest when reality finally dawns on them.

  197. @Deckin
    @Achmed E. Newman

    " I think male doctors have pretty good lives too, though better if it’s airplanes or boats rather than ex-wives."

    All high earning males need heed the advice of Paul Reiser's character in the show Red Oaks (though I think it comes from a novel):

    "If it flies, floats, or fucks, rent it!"

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    I’ve been trying to cut down on the bad language, with some mild success, at least some of the damn time, so I left that out. I am familiar, Deckin!.

  198. @Triteleia Laxa
    It is easy for a smart and ambitious woman to combine her career with kids. She only need do exactly what men with the same desires do, and find a spouse who is less ambitious than her, and support them financially, in return for them looking after the house.

    That means sacrificing a big part of your pay cheque, and a lot of the concomitant consumerism; but there's no lack of men who will agree.

    Or, if they're exceptionally bright and ambitious, they could run their husband's concern, from home, using him like a puppet. Women have done this for millenia.

    What they can't do, is not really work and yet earn as much as someone who does. I would love that, but I would always love to have my cake and eat it.

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans, @Travis, @Dissident, @Anonymous Jew, @YetAnotherAnon

    It is easy for a smart and ambitious woman to combine her career with kids.

    Easy? Managable, perhaps. But easy? To paraphrase our esteemed President, Come on, woman!

    (Pardon the blatant gendering, but I believe you have identified yourself as female.)

    A woman expecting to be able to raise a family while at the same time pursuing a full-time career, without at least one of the two being any the worse for it?

    have my cake and eat it

    Exactly.
    ~ ~ ~
    From, The Telegraph, July 2015:
    We must stop indoctrinating boys in feminist ideology

    Feminist organisations, backed by government policy, are teaching young boys at school to feel guilty and ashamed of their gender, writes Dan Bell

    Would we see a piece like that in the Telegraph today? The article highlighted by the recent post Columnist Canceled for Suggesting Princess Markle Name Her New Baby “Georgina Floydina”, along with a number of comments in the thread, suggest not.

    Level Three Snow Emergency, Level Three Fun
    (Note how the URL for the above image does not end in a photo format file extension. Flickr is formatted so that it works here that way.)

  199. @Triteleia Laxa
    @Simon in London


    Yes, I’ve got big hair with more volume, but it’s not a distraction, and neither is it untidy. The British public is far more erudite than people give them credit for.
     
    Which people?

    What does "erudite" have to do with hair?

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Combo breaker: does she know what erudite means?

  200. @AnotherDad
    @Simon in London


    Last month, as I was getting ready to present the BBC’s One O’Clock News, the magnitude of what I was about to do hadn’t quite sunk in: I was about to go live on national television wearing my natural hair.
     
    Geez, what a drama queen. It's like storming the beaches on D-day. A world historical event.

    You're on TV in Britain simply because you're black. Period. There are hundreds of thousands of much better looking, actually British girls who can read the news that people would much rather look at. But the BBC just loves sticking blacks--still a tiny proportion of the population--in the face of actual British people ... for reasons.

    And then oh, your precious hair.

    Female solipsism is amazing. And black women just take it off the charts.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Triteleia Laxa, @photondancer

    “Let the world tremble as it senses all you are about to accomplish.”

  201. @anon
    @Desiderius

    He’s desperate to follow someone worthy of being followed.

    Lol. No, not even. Personality assessment fail.

    Are we leading?

    Does spamming comboxes really count as "leading"?

    Replies: @Desiderius

    Nope.

    I took my three whacks and semi-retired now.

    You?

  202. @Alden
    @Cortes

    The dairy cow farmers take care of the births. If there’s a problem the farmer just grabs and pulls the calf out dead or alive. My brother’s never had a vet at calving time. No reason. The beef cows have the calves out in the fields. I think the only farm animals that have vets in attendance are the mares at the breeding farms for ultra expensive horses.

    The big thing that keeps new comers going into large animal practice is the expense. They use fitted out huge trucks that are a mobile clinic. With all the equipment. Cost more than a million dollars Add that to the cost of 8 years college. Takes a life time of work to pay it all off. And of course the mobile clinic needs replacing at least once in a 40 year career .

    Most stock farmers can take care of most medical needs. And if they can’t? Call the knackers. That’s where Burger King and MacDonald’s hamburger meat comes from. Dairy and beef cows too old to produce milk and calves. .

    Replies: @Cortes, @Jimbo

    Thanks for that explanation. I must’ve been recalling some scenes from the BBC series based on the James Herriot novels, cosy nostalgic period drama with plenty of farm visits. Standard Sunday evening prime time fare for many years.

  203. OT but hilarious: Time magazine’s latest cover attempts to present Joseph Robinette Biden, a senile octogenarian who cannot open his eyes or speak in a normal tone of voice or form a sentence, as a mirrored aviators-sporting badass who is confronting Vladimir Putin. Biden confronted Putin several times already, by craftily permitting Putin to have his European pipeline, by cleverly shutting down the Canuck-US pipeline, and by claiming that recent insider hacks were clearly the work of Russians (after years of babbling about Russian hackers) and strategically doing nothing about it. Biden’s ability to intimidate our nominal enemies was on display in the recent fireworks over Israel and we all look forward to his complete surrender without a fight to China.

  204. @Rob
    It seems that feminists (or economists) look at marriages where the husband earns more than his wife as a loss for womankind. My understanding, though, is that women are very happy when their husbands earn a lot of money. Am I Wrongedy wrong wrong?

    Replies: @Uncle Dan

    And they’re very happy to spend it.

  205. Lots of the scans can be read remotely and the consults submitted from home.

  206. @rebel yell
    If the feminist movement had been started by working class women these would have been the top issues.
    1. Better pay for working class men so their wives can stay home and raise the kids.
    2. Better pay for working class women like hotel maids who still have to work.
    3. Old-fashioned moral values in society because it is good for families.

    Instead, the feminist movement was started by Radcliffe and Wellesley grads, so we got:
    1. Abortion
    2. The glass ceiling

    Replies: @HFR, @photondancer

    “…the feminist movement was started by Radcliffe and Wellesley grads…”

    Gloria Steinem and Betty Friedan graduated from Smith College; Bella Abzug had a BA from Hunter College and a law degree from Columbia; Germain Greer had a BA from U. of Melbourne, an MA from U. of Sydney, and a PhD from U.of Cambridge.

    And many working-class women have had abortions that they wished had been as safe as the ones that educated upper-middle-class women were able to have long before abortions were legal.

    • Thanks: photondancer
    • Replies: @Culpeper
    @HFR

    Give me the 'ace', Camille P. any day over the rest of the motor-mouthed, sad-sack, occupants of the vegetable drawer..!

  207. @guest007
    @Lycurgus

    An article on the subject. At least your physician is not responsible to euthanatize you when you have a terminal disease or your family can no longer afford to care for you.

    https://time.com/5670965/veterinarian-suicide-help/

    Replies: @BB753

    “At least your physician is not responsible to euthanatize you when you have a terminal disease or your family can no longer afford to care for you.”

    Not just yet, but it’s coming.

    • Replies: @guest007
    @BB753

    Hospice already exist but is done by specialist rather than asking prmary care physicians or oncologist to do it.

  208. @Alden
    @Cortes

    The dairy cow farmers take care of the births. If there’s a problem the farmer just grabs and pulls the calf out dead or alive. My brother’s never had a vet at calving time. No reason. The beef cows have the calves out in the fields. I think the only farm animals that have vets in attendance are the mares at the breeding farms for ultra expensive horses.

    The big thing that keeps new comers going into large animal practice is the expense. They use fitted out huge trucks that are a mobile clinic. With all the equipment. Cost more than a million dollars Add that to the cost of 8 years college. Takes a life time of work to pay it all off. And of course the mobile clinic needs replacing at least once in a 40 year career .

    Most stock farmers can take care of most medical needs. And if they can’t? Call the knackers. That’s where Burger King and MacDonald’s hamburger meat comes from. Dairy and beef cows too old to produce milk and calves. .

    Replies: @Cortes, @Jimbo

    Cow #341 is an investment. Fluffy or Fido are family. You pay what it takes to cure family. you pay what pays back for cow #341.

  209. There’s been an African parliament for 17 years. It sounds fun.

    Founded with the noble ambition of uniting the continent, a session of the Pan-African Parliament (PAP) recently descended into farce with some members fighting and threatening to kill each other

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-57382915

  210. If a woman wants to write that kind of stale op-ed, fine. But this is a big part of how journalism died — men like this guy patronizing women’s trivial gripes so as to appear thoughtful, modern and self-effacing

  211. @Alden
    Blah blah blah blah blah. What year is this? I believe the first draft was written in 1971. And why only worry about lawyers and accountants? Why not worry about waitresses sales clerks bus drivers and other working mothers? . As for the lawyers and accountants married to other lawyers and accounts I suppose you’ve never heard of household help? Neighbors? Baby sitters? Household help agencies? They do exist. Older children and teens? Making arrangements ahead of time?

    Lawyers only need to be in their offices for depositions and meetings any more. They can file lawsuits and responses online. And , recruit? enlist? whatever new clients by email text and phone calls. And make an appointment to meet in the office on scheduled office days.

    Back when veterinarians were all men, they usually had several vets in one clinic and were open all day Saturday and till 9 in the evenings. And they had phone book ADs. That said 24 hour emergency. So a person whose dog was hit by a car at midnight called the phone number in the AD. The answering service would take the call . Dr would call back and make arrangements to meet at the clinic.
    Nowadays that’s done by looking online for vet websites a direct call to the on call that day vet and meet vet at the clinic.

    Did it myself when 5/30 AM Bear went out for a quick pee. He decided to go after the big old nasty vicious raccoon that lived under the deck. Bear came back screeching blood flowing fractured leg. Found vet site called answering person told us to head for the clinic and she’d have someone there. We loaded 90 pound whimpering Bear into car. With kid to hold soothe and cuddle him. I and vet arrived about the same time. Gave Bear to vet. Went home kid and I got dressed fixed bagel and cream cheese Went to work Husband picked Bear up on the way home. Kids had big comfy bed arranged for him. Bear loved attention and petting.

    Liberals. Some ordinary event like a sick day, sick injured dog and they approach it with shock and awe. Like they just discovered it . And the rest of us stupid proles are so stupid we don’t even know the problem exists..

    Or 2 adults or a single parent can’t take a dog to the vet and get the parents and kids to work and school the same day.

    What a despicable helpless wimp is Kristoff.

    Replies: @photondancer, @Buffalo Joe, @Buffalo Joe, @Desiderius, @J.Ross, @Triteleia Laxa, @Days of Broken Arrows

    It’s significant you mentioned “older children and teens.”

    When families used to have lots of kids, the moms got the older kids to occupy the younger ones. So you had built-in child care.

    Now that families only have one or two kids, that’s not a possibility. You have to bring in the professionals.

    And once that happened, people started to look skeptically at the most natural thing: Older siblings looking after younger ones.

    But I have a lot of memories of looking after my brother, who was seven years young, and the experiences were beneficial to us both, from what I can remember. My mother would call home to check on us. We did fine.

  212. @Triteleia Laxa
    It is easy for a smart and ambitious woman to combine her career with kids. She only need do exactly what men with the same desires do, and find a spouse who is less ambitious than her, and support them financially, in return for them looking after the house.

    That means sacrificing a big part of your pay cheque, and a lot of the concomitant consumerism; but there's no lack of men who will agree.

    Or, if they're exceptionally bright and ambitious, they could run their husband's concern, from home, using him like a puppet. Women have done this for millenia.

    What they can't do, is not really work and yet earn as much as someone who does. I would love that, but I would always love to have my cake and eat it.

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans, @Travis, @Dissident, @Anonymous Jew, @YetAnotherAnon

    I know two female doctors married to liberal arts cubicle drones. Many years ago I briefly worked for a corporate lawyer married to a cook. All these people are White (non-Jewish) btw. I’m not sure about the psychology – particularly from the female perspective, but it more or less seems to work.

  213. @photondancer
    @Richard of Melbourne

    Camille Paglia, whose feminist credentials are debatable.

    Replies: @Richard of Melbourne

    I stand corrected.

    The actual quote – from Paglia – is:

    “If civilization had been left in female hands, we would still be living in grass huts.”

    • Agree: BB753
  214. @Kent Nationalist
    @Almost Missouri

    The vet sector (in Britain at least) is being taken over by private equity firms buying up partnerships from retiring vets (usually men) and replacing them with young women hired as salaried employees.

    Replies: @James Speaks

    All Creatures Cute and Small

  215. What is so difficult for women to understand — if you want to do serious professional work but on your own terms and schedule just pronounce yourself a “consultant.”

  216. There are a lot of female pharmacists in Japan. I know one who worked in a pharmacy until her daughter graduated from university. Then she quit to do what she really wanted–baking.

  217. @Anon
    The way I look at it, women started going to college in large numbers and starting careers as a way to make sure they were not left out in the cold after a divorce. The legal pendulum on that has gone so far now that they needn't worry. And yet 70 percent of divorces are initiated by women, mostly for bullshit reasons, or so claims Aaron Renn of the Masculinist, a Christian men's site: Renn defines bullshit as reasons that wouldn't have passed religious muster before the 60s.

    With this as background, is a husband going to sabotage his career to take his sick kid to the doctor? LOL! No way. And women are so neurotic about kids anyway they take them to the doctor when they don't need to go. How many kids die or have permanent problems from most of the illnesses they experience?

    (On the other hand, CPS didn't used to be around. Here's left-wing Mother Jones on that:

    Do We Need to Abolish Child Protective Services?
    https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/12/do-we-need-to-abolish-child-protective-services/

    And here's Reason:

    Texas Becomes Third State To Pass Free-Range Kids Law
    https://reason.com/2021/05/18/texas-becomes-third-state-to-pass-free-range-kids-law/
    )

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Art Deco

    The way I look at it, women started going to college in large numbers and starting careers as a way to make sure they were not left out in the cold after a divorce.

    In 1928, women accounted for north of 40% of the enrollment in colleges and universities, just above for undergraduate study, just below for graduate study. In certain other sorts of tertiary institutions – hospital nursing schools, normal schools, teachers’ colleges – they predominated. The one place that was not the case was professional schools – theology, medicine, law, pharmacy, veterinary medicine – where women accounted for only 11% of the student body and 5% of the graduates. (Engineering school data was folded into that for colleges and universities in the Statistical Abstracts; data from a generation later indicated engineering schools were overwhelmingly male).

    Please note, one feature of divorce proceedings has remained constant over the post-war period: the woman is the plaintiff about 2/3 of the time.

    • Thanks: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
    @Art Deco

    Yes, but only a tiny percentage of people went to College, which, outside of professional training, was an awesome kind of finishing school.

  218. @Desiderius
    @Altai

    Hard to say how thrilled Harvard alums are to be mentioned in the same breath with Howard.

    They're practically sister schools now.

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy, @Almost Missouri

    “Oh yeaaah, Harvard. That like Howard, but for white people.”

    • LOL: Desiderius
  219. @S. Anonyia
    @Alden

    Good points. Childcare during daytime hours really shouldn’t last past 3rd grade. I was earning money babysitting neighborhood kids by 12. I would also get dropped off at the mall and theater for a few hours by that age. My parents left me home alone by 8 because they trusted me to take care of my younger sibling. I knew who to call in an emergency, how to prepare simple meals, complete chores, etc.

    I actually resented even small amounts of parental involvement other than help with sports or (occasionally) homework. Spent all my time reading, playing outside, exploring, using the computer. Like you said, I wanted to feel independent.

    Nowadays my 12 year old cousin still HAS a babysitter. All of her activities are organized and structured. Her brothers had babysitters until they were 16. They live in a safer neighborhood than I did growing up, too. Those kids aren’t high achievers and have pretty poor social skills, so I’m not sure what the point of all the parental involvement/supervision is. Giving kids constant stimulation and “enrichment” is a relatively new development. Now it seems almost every educated parent is a helicopter parent.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    As recently as the early 90s, kids were given a lot of freedom and expected to be independent.

    By the early 2000s, you started to see lots of helicopter parenting, especially among the more educated. At this point, helicopter parenting is the norm for all economic classes and races.

    Here’s an interesting article about how parents won’t let their kids participate in sleepovers anymore. As recently as the late 90s, I recall the overwhelming majority of parents were letting their kids do sleepovers. Not anymore. See below.

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/lifestyles/parenting/sc-fam-parents-against-sleepovers-0905-story.html

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Kids all have smartphones and laptops now. This wasn't the case in the 1990s. They don't need to go to friend's houses to socialise with them. They can have 'sleepovers' (i.e. gossip with friends all night) without leaving their own bedrooms.

    Replies: @Dissident

  220. If men just try hard enough they can end the below replacement level TFRs that plague every developed country except Israel. 🙂

    • Replies: @fnn
    @fnn

    https://twitter.com/clairlemon/status/1403128655488847873

  221. @fnn
    If men just try hard enough they can end the below replacement level TFRs that plague every developed country except Israel. :)

    https://twitter.com/ScottMGreer/status/1403208215891001349

    Replies: @fnn

  222. @SimpleSong
    Most physicians are in varying degrees of 'eat what you kill' practices.

    That is, if you take out a gallbladder, you send Medicare or whatever insurer a bill, they send you a check, done. Your gender never comes up. For the most part, the way to make more money is simple: take out more gallbladders. Take more call, see more patients, etc. There is stuff around the edges you can do, sure, try to improve your payor mix, other things, but for the most part, it's just how much you want to work. While many physicians are ostensibly 'employed physicians', if you dig down you find that in reality they just get a flat percentage of what their employer bills out in their name. All the 'employer' does is handle billing paperwork, credentialing, etc. See zero patients, get zero dollars.

    The implication that there are some moustache twisting villains plotting how to pay women less is absurd. They get paid less because they work less, period.

    The issue I've seen with a number of young female physicians is they seem to think that a medical degree is a stamp that puts you in the aristocracy. They think that just by dint of having the degree they deserve to get paid handsomely, have a good life, etc.. The happiest day of their medical career is graduation day. In reality, the degree is just a certification that allows you to do a particular type of (high paying) work. If you don't actually do the work...you get nothing. It's not a license to be idle rich. It's not a marriage to Mr. Darcy. Graduation day is the beginning, not the end.

    Now to be clear I think there are actually a lot of ways in which female physicians are superior to male physicians. They are less likely to commit insurance fraud. Women have much better fine motor skills than men (notice handwriting quality in boys vs girls) so honestly I think for many types of surgeries they do a better job. Many fields that involve being naked people are more comfortable with female physicians (OB-gyn, dermatology, etc.) A lot of male physicians work themselves to exhaustion and the quality of work suffers. Disruptive physicians (a.k.a. raging assholes) are almost always males.

    On the other hand pretty much all innovation that I see tends to be driven by males (white males, in particular). In short, unlike some fields (like engineering) I don't think the women in medicine don't belong--they're perfectly good physicians, and it's good to have both. But women making less is not a problem to be solved. They work less, they make less, it's their choice.

    I mean, who is really the dummy here, the guy who will look back on his life and say I spent most of it doing manual labor in an operating room, or the person with the balanced life that makes a little less? I think the men are getting cheated here, cheated out of life...

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @HbutnotG, @BenKenobi, @Richard of Melbourne, @Anon, @Michael S, @AnotherDad, @Buffalo Joe, @Kent Nationalist, @JohnnyWalker123

    Lots of physicians are passionate about what they do.

    I don’t think saving countless lives makes one a “dummy.” I think it’s to be applauded.

  223. Can someone please analyze this? I’m pretty much all-raced-out and I can’t cope.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20210611175005/https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/11/us/west-point-high-school-valedictorian.html

    Did the black kids really get screwed or what?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Paperback Writer

    Thanks.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

  224. Houellebecq on the suicide of the West and how only the French are taking it seriously:

    https://unherd.com/2021/06/the-narcissistic-fall-of-france/

  225. @Barack Obama's secret Unz account

    My wife, Sheryl WuDunn, and I believe deeply in gender equity — we wrote a book about it — and yet, looking back, I see this was true of us. I was typically the one who flew off to cover coups, leaving Sheryl (who has more graduate degrees than I do) to deal with the kids’ birthday planning or the bat in the bedroom.
     
    It's always about the number (and quality) of degrees with these people. They never claim expertise or authority on the basis of experience or wisdom or talent.

    In hindsight, giving kids gold star stickers in primary school was a really bad idea.

    Replies: @Yancey Ward, @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Why does she not say ‘my partner’? And WuDunn-what is that? Wu as her father’s former property, and Dunn for whom? I really detest hyphenated surnames for supposedly ‘liberated’ women, even without the hyphen. They just indicate property transfer. Would the, straight, feminists expect their ‘husbands’/partners to adopt similar double-barreled monikers? John Lennon did it.

    • Replies: @Getaclue
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    John Lennon -- Genius! -- who needs Private Security in NYC?...such a no brainer, no worries -- he had his Yoker so he needed nothing else....

  226. OT – Steve, any thoughts on massive financial firms buying up whole neighborhoods in order to transfer even more middle class wealth into the financial sector?

  227. @Elli
    OT: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/morocco-e2-80-98weaponized-e2-80-99-migration-to-punish-spain-that-e2-80-99s-more-common-than-you-think/ar-AAKABx5

    Amazingly this is from a WaPo writer:


    Morocco ‘weaponized’ migration to punish Spain. That’s more common than you think.


    On May 17, more than 6,000 people swam, floated or scaled a pair of 32-foot-high border fences to cross from Morocco into neighboring Ceuta, an eight-square-mile Spanish-owned city on Africa’s northern coast. Critically for those seeking to enter, Ceuta is inside European Union territory. According to Spanish authorities, it was the largest single-day influx of unregulated migrants in the country’s history. At least 2,000 more followed the next day.

    This wasn’t an accident. Apparently, Morocco engineered this mass cross-border movement to punish and coerce Spain. Video footage appeared to show Moroccan border guards opening fences to the Spanish enclave and allowing people through.

    Nor was this unusual. Strategically engineered migration is far more common than most people realize. At any given time, somewhere in the world, leaders inside or outside governments are likely manipulating migrants and/or refugees to pursue political, military or economic objectives.
     

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Fluesterwitz, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Nicholas Stix, @Getaclue

    But who is really behind all of it? Here let these folks tell you what is up!:


  228. Laurene Jobs, Melinda Gates, and Mackenzie Bezos are supposedly all feminists. I’d like to hear their thoughts about how their late/ex/soon-to-be-ex husbands should have spent less time at the office and should have expected them to work more. But I’m sure they weren’t saying much about it while their former husbands were busy turning them into three of the richest women in the world.

    It’s frightening that even as birthrates tank all across the Western world, to a point where it is literally threatening the survival of our nations, these asshats are still obsessed with “equal pay” to a degree that they’d gladly drive birthrates even lower to accomplish their pointless and unaccomplishable goal. 90% of all women (and men) would rather have a happy marriage than “equal pay,” so why do we even pay attention to these people?

    • Replies: @Culpeper
    @Wilkey

    Take in the just released poll of 60,000 Ozzies, check the "willl you marry and have children" stats, by wimin's cohorts.
    Why do men bother...? The three 'F' seem the common sense way to go...!

    By the way I lived as a working farmer while my Psychologist Academic 'partener' of 25 years wrote stuff and papers on communication within the 'Partener' diyad. Untill she scarpered with a fellow tiachi bonk. She rented me, as a saving on her personal income tax to the tune of paying 20% of her cohorts obligations. 2.5 decades of the best years of my life..?
    'Ah' the beauty and honesty of the whores.." They dont swell, they seldom tell and they are as pleased as hell whe you pay them well."
    To paraphtase the great Ozzie hero, Ned Kelly said, when judge Owen Redman doffed the' Black Cap'.

    "Such is life".!

  229. @Jmaie
    @angmoh


    Hyperproductive CEOs getting milked for every ounce of value they provide...
     
    Going out on a limb here and guessing you've never worked with or at the higher echelons of a large corporate entity? People who end up CEO are there because they like the lifestyle.

    Whether even the most hyperproductive CEO is worth what they're paid is another discussion.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/business/corporations/ceos-public-u-s-firms-earn-320-times-much-workers-n1263195

    Replies: @angmoh

    It’s just a general comment that I’m ok with the tiny minority of very productive people in society working extremely hard and be compensated accordingly, and norms existing to promote that. I don’t care whether or not corporate CEOs specifically are actually productive or ‘deserve’ what they get.

  230. This isn’t something you see everyday.

    Hope Ms. Rogers makes sure to have friends at her 3, 6, 9, and 12.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
    @Desiderius

    This is just the tip of the iceberg of corruption that is that 'Western Democracy' which the US and its running-dogs want to impose on China, a state where c.90% of the populace, in polls, state that they are 'satisfied' or 'highly satisfied' with their Government.

    , @J.Ross
    @Desiderius

    Aaaaaand it turns out we were totally right to worry about brainless footsoldier Merrick Garland.

    Replies: @Desiderius

  231. Anon[209] • Disclaimer says:
    @Buffalo Joe
    @Anon

    TwoThreeOne, divorce is a crushing blow to any man who did not see it coming. All I will say about that. And hate eats away at your soul until you expunge it from you life. CPS need better employees not fewer. Anyone who deals with children as part of their career is required to report abuse. Unreported abuse usually does not end but intensifies.

    Replies: @Anon

    TwoThreeOne, divorce is a crushing blow to any man who did not see it coming. All I will say about that.

    I’m getting the vibe that you think I’m a (bitter) divorced guy. Never been divorced. Decades into a happy marriage.

    Anyone who deals with children as part of their career is required to report abuse. Unreported abuse usually does not end but intensifies.

    Of course, but the word “abuse” is doing a lot of work in your sentence. The meaning has expanded by an order of magnitude and there is a CPS industrial complex now, complete with job creation initiatives. With “abuse” correctly defined, you are right.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Anon

    'Of course, but the word “abuse” is doing a lot of work in your sentence. The meaning has expanded by an order of magnitude and there is a CPS industrial complex now, complete with job creation initiatives.'

    Indeed. About forty years ago, I was working as a substitute teacher. One class, I was given a video about some program for abusive parents.

    Some of those people were real monsters. Serial sexual predators of their own children...

    On the other hand, I remember one woman who was apparently there because she'd slapped her son when he'd talked back to her. I remember my reaction was 'maybe sonny just needs to learn mommy has a quick temper.'

    One of the wiser remarks I heard was from a New York City social worker who said that the biggest problem she saw wasn't abuse, but neglect. And indeed; my wife has an enormous number of relatives, offering all sorts of 'compare and contrast' alternatives. In one of the families with the worst outcome, while the children were growing up, the mother was working full time and the father had two jobs.

    But what do you do about that?

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

  232. @Desiderius
    https://twitter.com/geospagetti/status/1402856807375282176?s=20

    This is when it became clear that Raytheon/LockMart were calling the shots. Still are far as I can tell. Clyburn gang as senior partners.

    Replies: @Whiskey

    Except they got rolled by Clyburn as usual. Nothing so stupid and gullible as Older White guys. The Regency is cutting the Navy, Air Force, and Army, while Lloyd Austin is purging not just the enlisted men but senior officers for being too White. Replacing them with men/women his own skin color.

    They should have stuck with Trump. Instead, the military on China’s orders is being gutted both in manpower/equipment and with people — replacing White leaders with black ones. That’s why they are trotting out the Chinese defector, the lab origin, etc. That stuff does not appear in media without someone saying so, this time the various Military people and contractors.

    Who frankly were idiots. Clyburn and company don’t care about Raytheon or some White General getting a lobbying job. They care about GIBS. G-I-B-S. And the only way for more GIBS is for defense spending to be cut. Which China fueling woke wants also. So for Whitey its lose-lose-lose as always. Yes 11 fewer ships and one carrier group axed for the Navy. Yes the Army reduced by about 60,000 men. Yes cutbacks galore in defense spending. Dems are the black party and the black party wants GIBS.
    ———-
    As far as feminism goes, the reason it is popular is because it reflects what women want. Women neither want nor need a husband, if he is not 100% certain an Alpha. Only Alphas matter. The idea of a husband and kids is simply irrelevant to most women, now, given the resources available.

    Really, the old Western “WEIRD” patterns of the nuclear family and monogamy clearly no longer work, because women in the West reject them. And that’s why TFR is something around 1.00 or so for most Western Women. Its just is not working. We need women not to have endless choice, but rather pretty much no choice at all. We’ve tried it this way since 1920. The result is … this.

    • Replies: @Ralph L
    @Whiskey

    Your comment would be better if we knew what GIBS means.

    Replies: @Nicholas Stix

  233. Anon[209] • Disclaimer says:

    OT

    I just learned that a longform journalism piece from a year ago in Runner’s World won a 2021 Pulizer Prize, as well as another prestigious award. The premise of the piece? That “jogger” Ahmaud Arbery is an example of how running has failed black American.

    https://www.runnersworld.com/runners-stories/a32883923/ahmaud-arbery-death-running-and-racism/

    The (black) writer disposes of the construction site interloping early in the piece, in an interesting sleight of hand: other people trespassed on the site, and nothing was ever stolen. By the time the article is underway, you’ve already forgotten about it. This is kind of a reverse New York Times approach.

  234. Kristof is the braindead guy who every Christmas writes a column in which he interviews a preacher and asks “preacher, am I a Christian?” The correct answer would be “look up the definition and then think for yourself, shifforbrains”.

    • LOL: El Dato
  235. @Desiderius
    This isn’t something you see everyday.

    https://twitter.com/WendyRogersAZ/status/1403456229486247942?s=20

    Hope Ms. Rogers makes sure to have friends at her 3, 6, 9, and 12.

    Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain, @J.Ross

    This is just the tip of the iceberg of corruption that is that ‘Western Democracy’ which the US and its running-dogs want to impose on China, a state where c.90% of the populace, in polls, state that they are ‘satisfied’ or ‘highly satisfied’ with their Government.

  236. @JohnnyWalker123
    I'll solve the problem.

    -Offer more flex-time for employees, especially women with children.
    -More online work options (especially meetings), even if for just for a fraction of the workweek.
    -More part-time work options, including high-paying White-collar jobs.
    -Parent-Teacher conferences online or on the weekend.
    -Daycare centers that are located inside the work facility.
    -Medical&dental facilities located inside the work facility, to see the doctor&dentist at work.
    -Make it easier to see the doctor and dentist during the weekend.
    -More online options for kids when they're sick.
    -Giving kids supplements at school (Zinc, Vit C, Vit D) to minimize sick days.
    -More ready-made, cheap, easy meal options from the grocery store. Grab&go.
    -Expand school lunch to all kids (even wealthy). Also, offer healthier&better tasting options.
    -Expand school breakfast.
    -School-organized carpools (or just more buses) to get kids home. Saves mom a trip.
    -Re-integrate middle-aged moms who've been out of the workforce for years.
    -Provide time off for moms who have to leave the workforce to be caregivers.
    -Longer school days and more summer school options.
    -Getting kids to complete their homework in school (with teacher assistance), which would be really helpful to parents.
    -If kids stay late enough, school dinners can be an option.
    -Provide a stipend to older relatives (such as grandparents) to take care of kids.
    -Schools can teach kids to become more independent at an early age and to take on more chores.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Colin Wright, @Alden, @Kent Nationalist, @Bardon Kaldian, @Bill Jones, @Prof. Woland, @epochehusserl, @Jim Bob Lassiter

    Why even have children if you want someone else to raise them for you?

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @epochehusserl

    Ask the wealthy. Historically, they outsourced the child-rearing to servants.

    Replies: @epochehusserl

  237. @Altai
    @Desiderius

    I'm not sure. CRT seems to just be anti-white animus + post-modernist gibberish. It seems to have first emerged in the 60s when the first 'African American Studies' departments were established. And Dr. Francis Cress Welsing first put into words what looks like the proto-form of CRT at Howard.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdUR3DnbEw0

    Remember, academic credentialism means PhDs have to come from somewhere and so just a few academics can spawn the whole basis of a field. Given that many professions are now either students or students of students of Cress, you can see how things got here.

    To this day the Howard 'Africana' department is taught by one of Cress' students and goes on an annual trip (Except 2020 and maybe 2021 obviously) to Egypt where they are taught the 'true' history of 'Kemet'. They even perform some weird ancestor worship rituals.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxF48mRwnrY

    Howard is where Nick Cannon was taught all this weird Afrocentrist stuff.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @James J O'Meara, @El Dato

    Why doesn’t Egypt have to build Negrocaust Memorials to their Black ex-overlords they so shamefully despoiled? No fair!

    Can’t Big J work on this and get some international conference started?

    Egypt might even drop loot: Israel could use the Sinai peninsula.

  238. @Anon
    OT

    F.D.A. Tells Johnson & Johnson 60 Million Doses Can’t Be Used

    Regulators told the company that the virus vaccine shots made in a troubled Baltimore factory are not usable because of possible contamination.

    https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/06/11/world/covid-vaccine-coronavirus-mask/
     

    A vaccine factory in ... Baltimore? Surely ... they ... didn't hire local vibrants ... did they?

    Some Emergent BioSolutions employees failed to shower at a Baltimore plant, ignoring protocol, an FDA report said.

    Some staff failed to shower or change their clothes at the Emergent BioSolutions plant in Baltimore.

    "Systemic" failures in sanitation and training "led to the destruction of millions" of doses, a House committee said.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/jj-vaccine-baltimore-plant-emergent-johnson-johnson-contaminated-shower-staff-2021-5
     

    Showering is a rule of whiteness. Following rules is whiteness.

    They spent a week going through the factory and reviewing security camera footage that showed employees carelessly handling vaccine materials.

    https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/ap-source-jj-doses-released-tossed-78222006
     

    Sounds like they have higher standards than McDonald's, at least:

    III. MINIMUM EDUCATION, EXPERIENCE, SKILLS

    HS diploma with 3 or more years’ experience with production processes under GMP compliance OR

    Associate degree in a Scientific, Engineering or Biotech field with 2 or years’ experience with or biologic production processes under GMP compliance OR

    Bachelor’s degree in a Scientific, Engineering or Biotech field with 0-1 years’ experience with biologic production processes under GMP compliance

    Outstanding knowledge, and ability to apply scientific principles utilized to solve operational, as well as routine production tasks

    Excellent documentation skills including comprehension, review & establishing Batch Production Records, SOP’s, deviation & summary reports

    https://careers.emergentbiosolutions.com/job/Baltimore-%28Bayview%29-BioProcess-Associate-MD-21224/753809800/
     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_manufacturing_practice

    In a pandemic, maybe it's worth the risk to use iffy vaccine ... but you'd have to keep it secret.

    Replies: @El Dato

    “a troubled Baltimore factory”

    Next it will demand trans rights.

    Emergent signed a $628 million contract with the US government in June last year to expand manufacturing capacity of COVID-19 vaccines. The government asked J&J to take charge of the Baltimore plant following the contamination incident.

    The House memo also said that Emergent executives “reaped a windfall as vaccines were destroyed,” and that Kramer had received a $1.2 million bonus in 2020 for his “exceptional leadership.”

    An adequate punishment would be to pump them full of their own vaccine. Over and over.

    • Agree: J.Ross
  239. @Paperback Writer
    Can someone please analyze this? I'm pretty much all-raced-out and I can't cope.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20210611175005/https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/11/us/west-point-high-school-valedictorian.html

    Did the black kids really get screwed or what?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Thanks.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @Steve Sailer

    Yr welcome. I read the article several times & cdn't make sense of it, which I guess is the point.

    Who took the harder damn classes?

  240. @photondancer
    I snickered at your snide commentary but all the same, I think he's making a good point. There's not really any good reason why many jobs can't be shared more, nor should partnership be a reward for stupid criteria such as 'he puts in long hours'. Work smarter not harder - wasn't that the slogan when us plebs wanted more money?

    Although I do wonder how many of those 24/7 veterinarians are women, especially women with children.

    Replies: @Yancey Ward, @Alden, @Sollipsist

    The vast majority of vets (and every other category of animal care workers) that I’ve worked with have been female, and the majority of them have children. Unless you have a small clinic with older vets, the question of maternity leave is not if but when.

    I’ve known 4 emergency overnight vets, and 2 of them have been male. Unless that’s just a coincidence, my guess is that men are simply more likely to accept the tradeoffs.

    The consensus is that vets might be able to make a decent income (i.e., solidly middle class) working for someone else, but the only chance to make real money is by owning your own clinic. And clinics are far more likely to be owned and run by men than women. Plus, the only vet that I know of who served as a US senator is male. And he also runs a pretty lucrative clinic here.

    All of this makes me think that nobody is preventing female vets from doing these things; if anything, women have far more opportunity and support to rise to the top in the veterinary and allied fields. It’s just clearly an example of different priorities/aptitudes/whatever.

  241. @Lycurgus
    lol, vets have top 10 depression/ suicide rates, definitely model that

    Replies: @guest007, @Old Prude

    Veterinarians do a lot of intentional killing. Not a job I would want.

  242. @Desiderius
    This isn’t something you see everyday.

    https://twitter.com/WendyRogersAZ/status/1403456229486247942?s=20

    Hope Ms. Rogers makes sure to have friends at her 3, 6, 9, and 12.

    Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain, @J.Ross

    Aaaaaand it turns out we were totally right to worry about brainless footsoldier Merrick Garland.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @J.Ross

    He does what he’s told. That’s the Tin Man, not the Scarecrow.

  243. @rebel yell
    If the feminist movement had been started by working class women these would have been the top issues.
    1. Better pay for working class men so their wives can stay home and raise the kids.
    2. Better pay for working class women like hotel maids who still have to work.
    3. Old-fashioned moral values in society because it is good for families.

    Instead, the feminist movement was started by Radcliffe and Wellesley grads, so we got:
    1. Abortion
    2. The glass ceiling

    Replies: @HFR, @photondancer

    Buffoon. Go read a short history of feminism and see how every one of your points is wrong.

  244. @Triteleia Laxa
    @Alden

    Feminists claim to care deeply about vulnerable women.

    I remember them writing a lot about how some female multimillionaire tv presenters had accepted less pay than their male colleagues who did a different job.

    I don't remember them mentioning the ~20,000 girls already identified as abused by Pakistani grooming gangs, even though it continues.

    When people say "I care" they are usually sincere, but they are also usually deluded. Feminists who claim to care about the suffering of women should be laughed out of the room.* Their attention is never where the suffering is and always where whatever flatters them most, by proxy.

    So what if women in Africa are second class citizens, Captain Marvel was sure a badass b*tch!

    Not that anyone should have to care, but nobody has to enable their delusions either.

    Replies: @photondancer

    You seem to be using the label ‘feminist’ very selectively.

    I see women getting angry about the situation of African (etc.) women all the time. Feminism has a long history of caring for and doing something about the plight of non-pampered class women. Maybe, like quite a few other posters in this thread, you need to go and educate yourself a little.

    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
    @photondancer

    I bet for every NYT article on real oppression of women you find, I can find 10 on celebrity pay, hair and too much/too little sexual attention.

    Replies: @photondancer

    , @Getaclue
    @photondancer

    Did alot for hundreds of millions of pre-born babies too?....Really sick of the whole Grievance Studies area of bs, so many lies told constantly, saw it in the Military years ago -- better than the men! LOL -- The Trannys they created and cheered on will now deal with the Feminist Western Civilization wreckers -- hopefully they strangle each other and both disappear forever

  245. @Desiderius
    @Michael S

    Nick does. He’s got a big religion-sized hole that he keeps trying to fill with whatever the latest party line is.

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

    Desiderius – we discussed emotions and societal development a few days back and here is a study looking into this subject – I found it interesting

    https://osf.io/hukwr/

    onclusion

    This chapter explored the inextricable links between emotions and status hierarchies. The ubiquity of status hierarchies and fitness-relevance of status suggest that humans should possess

    EMOTIONS AND STATUS HIERARCHIES

    14 psychological adaptations—such as emotions—for navigating hierarchies. To identify and understand these emotional adaptations, it will be helpful to fully map the numerous and specific adaptive challenges posed by life in hierarchically organized social groups and detail the subtasks required to overcome them.This endeavor has the potential to not only improve our understanding of emotions, but also to reveal how broad patterns of individual and cultural variation may arise from species-typical adaptations for navigating the adaptive challenges posed by status hierarchies.

    • Thanks: Desiderius
  246. @AnotherDad
    @Simon in London


    Last month, as I was getting ready to present the BBC’s One O’Clock News, the magnitude of what I was about to do hadn’t quite sunk in: I was about to go live on national television wearing my natural hair.
     
    Geez, what a drama queen. It's like storming the beaches on D-day. A world historical event.

    You're on TV in Britain simply because you're black. Period. There are hundreds of thousands of much better looking, actually British girls who can read the news that people would much rather look at. But the BBC just loves sticking blacks--still a tiny proportion of the population--in the face of actual British people ... for reasons.

    And then oh, your precious hair.

    Female solipsism is amazing. And black women just take it off the charts.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Triteleia Laxa, @photondancer

    It’s happening here in Oz too. This model (https://www.commbank.com.au/) is raking it in at present. She must be the only light skinned black in Australia and she’s appearing in advertisement after advertisement. Lots of other not-too-dark blacks, both sexes, in other advertisements and a lot of BM-WF couples. For what? we have hardly any blacks here and the ones we do have are 50 shades darker because they’re Somali or Sudanese. I’m happy to see non-white people in advertisements but make them relevant to Australia, please. This is so obviously pandering to US-centric SJWism it makes me cross.

  247. @Bardon Kaldian
    @HbutnotG

    Statistically, sure.

    But does anyone seriously think that Hegel, Henri Poincare (who couldn't tie his shoelaces), Heidegger or Proust were "mechanically capable"?

    C'mon ....

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @HbutnotG

    Martin Heidegger actually liked it to work with his hands – like chopping wood and – mow grass and such things.
    There is a photo of him outside his hut near Todtmoos in the Balck Forest showing him chopping wood in a workman’s clothes. He often went inot the woodss in autumn to collect red- and blueberries.
    He did build a small tennis court for his sons too.

    https://www.nzz.ch/feuilleton/nachrichten-aus-dem-topinambur-land-1.18628696

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Dieter Kief

    Good, but this is quite another thing. I chop wood all the time; but I don't care about machines, cars, screwdrivers etc.

    I am an axe man, but not a screwdriver person.

    If there is something about reincarnation- perhaps I was an executioner in a previous incarnation ...

    https://i.gifer.com/Qgy.gif

  248. @Steve Sailer
    @Paperback Writer

    Thanks.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    Yr welcome. I read the article several times & cdn’t make sense of it, which I guess is the point.

    Who took the harder damn classes?

  249. @EdwardM
    @photondancer

    If a CEO has an accounting question, he calls his CFO, who is just as much of a full-time professional, embedded in the company, as the CEO himself.

    It's not a one-time transaction like an emergency visit to a pediatrician or veteranarian.

    Replies: @photondancer

    Yes, I know. The CEO example isn’t a very good choice on Kristof’s part, since a CEO wouldn’t be asking routine accounting questions. My questions were aimed at seeing if the analogy still holds for more ordinary people. The article, incidentally, doesn’t say ’emergency’.

    • Replies: @EdwardM
    @photondancer

    Fair enough. My criticism of Kristof is that he seems to think of all private-sector workers, as evidenced by the faceless members of the gaggle he comes into contact with by virtue of their serving him in his cushy life -- the accountants, pediatricians, veteranarians (but certainly not newspaper columnists) -- as just interchangeable cogs. Part-time, job share, outsource, quota hire, doesn't matter. Typical leftist/globalist view of capitalism.

  250. A question for our race realists: do you consider these two Arab SJW chicks white (ignore their talk, it is nonsense)? I am speaking of the phenotype.

    Or they’re tanned whites, non-white Caucasians?

    Or something third?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Bardon Kaldian

    The Middle East has a lot of ethnies that go way back and did not come from Europe. One of the distinctions of Europeans which enabled them to get ahead was the Catholic church convincing white folk to stop marrying their cousins. In Islam cousin marriage is normal. From the point of view of blacks they're "white" (ie, "enemy"). A race unrealist would probably Lebanese and Persians (neither of whom are Arab) as effectively white.

    , @JohnnyWalker123
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Mediterranean.

    Phenotypically, White. Culturally&behaviorally, West Asian.

    Their hooked noses give away their Non-Euro origins.

    Christian Arabs are similar to Greeks&Italians, with a strongly mercantile component to their culture.

    , @S. Anonyia
    @Bardon Kaldian

    I consider them white. I consider anyone who isn’t black, East Asian, East Indian or Amerindian/Pacific Islander as white. Not sure what else these people would be. I also consider about half of Hispanics white. Hispanics who aren’t white are effectively Amerindians. I think most Southerners have the same perceptions.

    It isn’t their tan that makes the Arab women look a bit “different,” it’s more their facial features (the second woman doesn’t even have a tan).

    , @Rob
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Are Arabs white? Depends on which meaning of white you are using. Like many Indians and West Asians, along with other ‘MENAs’ Arabs are considered Caucasian. But, as we learned from the Tsarnaevs, Russians do not consider people from the Caucasus region, literal ‘Caucasians’, to be white.

    In the US, ‘white’ is a meta ethnicity, much like Hispanic (which does not include Spaniards!) is meta ethnic. Hispanics are mulattoes and mestizos from various countries with somewhat different population mixes, definitely including which Indian ethnicities contributed to the current population. The immigrants themselves see each other and themselves as Mexican, Guatemalan, etc. The second generation maybe, a definitely third if they have integrated somewhat, see themselves as fellow brownish Spanish-speakers - Hispanics.

    In America, white means descendants of European colonists or immigrants. White implicitly means Christian-influenced, if not actually Christian, and European, and speaking English with an (or one of several) American accents. White means being culturally American. A white American of, say, Italian descent, says of the Revolution ‘we fought Britain for independence…’ and when talking about Italy, says ‘The Italians, they…’, or ‘ ‘ in Sicily, they…’

    Do most Arabs in America consider themselves American before they think of themselves as Arabs, or members of their clans? Middle Eastern countries are not nation-states, so I would not use ‘does not think of himself as Iraqi before American’.

    I think if Arabs were white, they would recognize increased scrutiny post-9-11 as an understandable burden. What did Italians here think of Sacco and Vanzetti?

    Ultimately, whether MENAs are white comes down to assimilation and intermarriage. If they marry whites and act like whites, and drop the alien religion in reality, if not nominally, then they are white. If their American-born children turn into Jihadis and join ISIS, then they are not white. If Arabs in America claim they are non-white, they are non-white (and won’t have the option to fly to white if the best race to be changes.

    The Arabs have a very different recent evolutionary history than Europeans. They are certainly somewhat biologically different due to that history. I think they will have trouble assimilating because of that.

    As to the videos, the first chick was outlined in white, presumably to make her skin look darker. The second, well, she is fairly light for an Egyptian,band said her family was upper-class there. Kinda interesting that the upper-class looked white. Small sample size, I know. The fact that they look down on blacks does not, in itself, make them white. Asians look down on blacks, and they aren’t white.

    In the US, i think white pretty much means European. I would love to be wrong about Arab immigrants and their descendants. I hope they assimilate.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

  251. @Arclight
    The thing that strikes me about pieces like this is how the "problem" they identify is something that 95% or more of American households cannot relate to at all. The number of relationships in which both members are working towards elite occupations like partner at law firms, medicine, business or whatever is tiny. Obviously these are situations that to the extent they exist at all are more prevalent in New York where the Times and a slew of magazines are headquartered, but the bigger problem for most families is that both parents have to work just to afford a decent lifestyle these days in the first place.

    Replies: @additionalMike

    NY Times readers are not interested in the problems of Deplorables.

  252. @Dieter Kief
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Martin Heidegger actually liked it to work with his hands - like chopping wood and - mow grass and such things.
    There is a photo of him outside his hut near Todtmoos in the Balck Forest showing him chopping wood in a workman's clothes. He often went inot the woodss in autumn to collect red- and blueberries.
    He did build a small tennis court for his sons too.

    https://www.nzz.ch/feuilleton/nachrichten-aus-dem-topinambur-land-1.18628696

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    Good, but this is quite another thing. I chop wood all the time; but I don’t care about machines, cars, screwdrivers etc.

    I am an axe man, but not a screwdriver person.

    If there is something about reincarnation- perhaps I was an executioner in a previous incarnation …

  253. “I get to fly off and cover coups — while ignoring, in fact cheerleading, the brazen coup that took place right here in America last year. Oh, and my wife has more degrees than you, your mate and her boyfriend put together.”

  254. @Whiskey
    @Desiderius

    Except they got rolled by Clyburn as usual. Nothing so stupid and gullible as Older White guys. The Regency is cutting the Navy, Air Force, and Army, while Lloyd Austin is purging not just the enlisted men but senior officers for being too White. Replacing them with men/women his own skin color.

    They should have stuck with Trump. Instead, the military on China's orders is being gutted both in manpower/equipment and with people -- replacing White leaders with black ones. That's why they are trotting out the Chinese defector, the lab origin, etc. That stuff does not appear in media without someone saying so, this time the various Military people and contractors.

    Who frankly were idiots. Clyburn and company don't care about Raytheon or some White General getting a lobbying job. They care about GIBS. G-I-B-S. And the only way for more GIBS is for defense spending to be cut. Which China fueling woke wants also. So for Whitey its lose-lose-lose as always. Yes 11 fewer ships and one carrier group axed for the Navy. Yes the Army reduced by about 60,000 men. Yes cutbacks galore in defense spending. Dems are the black party and the black party wants GIBS.
    ----------
    As far as feminism goes, the reason it is popular is because it reflects what women want. Women neither want nor need a husband, if he is not 100% certain an Alpha. Only Alphas matter. The idea of a husband and kids is simply irrelevant to most women, now, given the resources available.

    Really, the old Western "WEIRD" patterns of the nuclear family and monogamy clearly no longer work, because women in the West reject them. And that's why TFR is something around 1.00 or so for most Western Women. Its just is not working. We need women not to have endless choice, but rather pretty much no choice at all. We've tried it this way since 1920. The result is ... this.

    Replies: @Ralph L

    Your comment would be better if we knew what GIBS means.

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
    @Ralph L

    It's short for "GIBSMEDAT." If that's not clear to you, you're at the wrong blog.

    Replies: @Dissident

  255. @angmoh
    Industries finding ways for work norms to be a little less soul-destroying is a good thing. Feminisation of society has good and bad effects - this kind of stuff is one of the good

    Hyperproductive CEOs getting milked for every ounce of value they provide for the remuneration they get is great for society - but work hours / output for the vast majority are subject to much different value propositions.

    Replies: @Dutch Boy, @Jmaie, @Jim Bob Lassiter

    “Hyperproductive CEOs getting milked for every ounce of value they provide for the remuneration they get is great for society ”

    Maybe, maybe not.

  256. @JohnnyWalker123
    I'll solve the problem.

    -Offer more flex-time for employees, especially women with children.
    -More online work options (especially meetings), even if for just for a fraction of the workweek.
    -More part-time work options, including high-paying White-collar jobs.
    -Parent-Teacher conferences online or on the weekend.
    -Daycare centers that are located inside the work facility.
    -Medical&dental facilities located inside the work facility, to see the doctor&dentist at work.
    -Make it easier to see the doctor and dentist during the weekend.
    -More online options for kids when they're sick.
    -Giving kids supplements at school (Zinc, Vit C, Vit D) to minimize sick days.
    -More ready-made, cheap, easy meal options from the grocery store. Grab&go.
    -Expand school lunch to all kids (even wealthy). Also, offer healthier&better tasting options.
    -Expand school breakfast.
    -School-organized carpools (or just more buses) to get kids home. Saves mom a trip.
    -Re-integrate middle-aged moms who've been out of the workforce for years.
    -Provide time off for moms who have to leave the workforce to be caregivers.
    -Longer school days and more summer school options.
    -Getting kids to complete their homework in school (with teacher assistance), which would be really helpful to parents.
    -If kids stay late enough, school dinners can be an option.
    -Provide a stipend to older relatives (such as grandparents) to take care of kids.
    -Schools can teach kids to become more independent at an early age and to take on more chores.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Colin Wright, @Alden, @Kent Nationalist, @Bardon Kaldian, @Bill Jones, @Prof. Woland, @epochehusserl, @Jim Bob Lassiter

    You left out the part about the on site daycare curriculum services:

    a) Diversity is our strength.

    b) Critical Race Theory

  257. @Art Deco
    @Anon

    The way I look at it, women started going to college in large numbers and starting careers as a way to make sure they were not left out in the cold after a divorce.

    In 1928, women accounted for north of 40% of the enrollment in colleges and universities, just above for undergraduate study, just below for graduate study. In certain other sorts of tertiary institutions - hospital nursing schools, normal schools, teachers' colleges - they predominated. The one place that was not the case was professional schools - theology, medicine, law, pharmacy, veterinary medicine - where women accounted for only 11% of the student body and 5% of the graduates. (Engineering school data was folded into that for colleges and universities in the Statistical Abstracts; data from a generation later indicated engineering schools were overwhelmingly male).

    Please note, one feature of divorce proceedings has remained constant over the post-war period: the woman is the plaintiff about 2/3 of the time.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    Yes, but only a tiny percentage of people went to College, which, outside of professional training, was an awesome kind of finishing school.

  258. @Stan D Mute
    @SimpleSong

    You are hilarious. And anesthesia is.. well .. oddly addictive. After several dozen times being anesthetized, and after a NDE (or maybe I just fucking died and that angelic cracker bitch resurrected me in the amberlamps), I am reminded of the anesthesiologists. Those who are paid more than the surgeons, more than the hospital itself, to make sure that you have a peaceful ride.

    Ask yourself. “Self, why are anesthesiologists the highest paid medical specialty”? Self? You have an answer?

    Replies: @Jmaie, @Graham

    You really don’t want your anaesthetist to make a mistake. It will probably result in a quick journey to another world. You won’t care but your wife and kids will. Surgeons can make grievous mistakes but those are less likely to be terminal. I know this is just subjective experience, but the first time I had general anaesthetic, when I came round it felt more like I had been dead than sleeping. No dreams and no sense of time passing.

  259. @Spangel223
    @Colin Wright

    I think you’re right. While the assumption is that women are less likely to become executives than men because of child rearing obligations, my observation is that this is a minor factor. Looks to me like young women (interns or recent grads) seem full of career ambition in terms of their personas and about ten years into the workforce or sooner, this kind of energy is very rare in women while it matures in men. Childless or not, I see almost no women over 35 with authentic psychological investment in their career advancement, regardless of whether or not they have children and regardless of how successful they were before.

    Basically at some point in their thirties, women simply lose interest in climbing the career ladder regardless of their personal circumstances. And as opposed to the assumption that it is because of motherhood, I’ve seen exactly the opposite. From what I’ve seen in our present generation, it is mainly women with at least one child who maintain even a superficial interest in advancing their corporate careers past their thirties because these women with children have financial goals related to those children such as paying for their college education or sending them to private school. Childless women of the same age tend to become more invested in personal projects that don’t usually pay well.

    This is not the case for men. It is common for men in their thirties and older to be actively trying to network to find opportunities in high potential companies that they will have partial ownership in. It’s also common for them to pursue ideas for start ups because they hope they will be lucrative. 40 year olds women simply don’t sit there thinking about how they can co-found a company they can cash out on for millions of dollars. How many 4o year old men ponder the same? A whole darn lot.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘…This is not the case for men. It is common for men in their thirties and older to be actively trying to network to find opportunities in high potential companies that they will have partial ownership in…’

    Indeed. Just going by myself, I think men are compulsively competitive to a degree that women aren’t. I’m retired, and with about a million and a half in assets, my wife and I can have just about whatever we could reasonably want.

    …yet I feel that somehow, I should have made even more. I would feel like more of a success if only I’d piled up five million instead…and obviously, if I had five million, I’d feel like I should have accumulated twenty million.

    Do women think this way to the same extent? I’m skeptical.

    Another major distinction is that just in conversation, men compete, while women strive to reach a consensus.

    I’ve had too many internet arguments with other men that aren’t too far from ‘Bullshit! Obviously three and two don’t make five! I just showed you that it’s two and three that make five!’

    With women though — and I have heard literally close to this with my wife — it tends to go more like this. ‘I think blacks were happier when they were slaves’/’Ummm…they should be given more employment opportunities.’

    They will proceed on the premise that, really, they agree even when they clearly don’t. With men, it’s just the opposite. They’ll engage in ferocious dominance displays even when nothing substantial is in dispute at all.

    I wouldn’t trust my wife to intelligently decide on what air conditioning system to put into our house. On the other hand, back in the day, when I had a moving customer that I could tell was getting unhappy (usually about something I had nothing to do with) I’d get my wife to go talk her down out of the tree. Not a good idea for me to try it.

    Mens and womens just be different. It’s not that one is better than the other. It’s just that they’re different.

  260. @Anon
    @Buffalo Joe


    TwoThreeOne, divorce is a crushing blow to any man who did not see it coming. All I will say about that.
     
    I'm getting the vibe that you think I'm a (bitter) divorced guy. Never been divorced. Decades into a happy marriage.

    Anyone who deals with children as part of their career is required to report abuse. Unreported abuse usually does not end but intensifies.
     
    Of course, but the word "abuse" is doing a lot of work in your sentence. The meaning has expanded by an order of magnitude and there is a CPS industrial complex now, complete with job creation initiatives. With "abuse" correctly defined, you are right.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘Of course, but the word “abuse” is doing a lot of work in your sentence. The meaning has expanded by an order of magnitude and there is a CPS industrial complex now, complete with job creation initiatives.’

    Indeed. About forty years ago, I was working as a substitute teacher. One class, I was given a video about some program for abusive parents.

    Some of those people were real monsters. Serial sexual predators of their own children…

    On the other hand, I remember one woman who was apparently there because she’d slapped her son when he’d talked back to her. I remember my reaction was ‘maybe sonny just needs to learn mommy has a quick temper.’

    One of the wiser remarks I heard was from a New York City social worker who said that the biggest problem she saw wasn’t abuse, but neglect. And indeed; my wife has an enormous number of relatives, offering all sorts of ‘compare and contrast’ alternatives. In one of the families with the worst outcome, while the children were growing up, the mother was working full time and the father had two jobs.

    But what do you do about that?

    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
    @Colin Wright

    Neglect can do more damage than abuse, because it is harder to understand and separate yourself from.

  261. @Anon 2
    OT: French Open

    Americans have again been humiliated at tennis. Coco Gauff, black tennis player,
    who was the last remaining American in singles, had an ugly outburst when
    she realized she was being easily defeated by a Czech player. No impulse
    control at all. It doesn’t help that at a tender age she already has a huge ego, being
    brainwashed by her dad to believe she’s the next Serena Williams.

    It’s always amusing to see blacks realize that there are two kinds of white
    people. The kind they are used to are Western Europeans (incl. Germanics)
    and their descendants, who invaded the world, colonized it, enslaved it, and
    now, full of self-loathing, are slowly twisting in guilt. The other kind of
    whites that blacks are not used to are mostly of Slavic origin - a huge group.
    In Europe the Slavs at 240 million outnumber Germanics, at 120 million,
    2 to 1. This other kind of whites never participated in colonialism or
    slave trade, and therefore don’t feel the slightest guilt about humiliating
    blacks in sports or in any other endeavor. Black supremacists who
    talked themselves into believing that blacks have no equal in sports,
    music, and sex, don’t know how to deal with this other group of whites.

    P.S. It’s still humiliating that a country of 335 million people can no longer
    produce a good American-born tennis player. Forget about great, someone who
    regularly reaches semifinals would do.

    Replies: @Peter D. Bredon, @Marty T

    I’m glad Coco Gauff lost. She is a little BLM activist in training. The fact that she lives on the same land as me doesn’t make me like her more, it makes me like her less.

  262. @photondancer
    @Triteleia Laxa

    You seem to be using the label 'feminist' very selectively.

    I see women getting angry about the situation of African (etc.) women all the time. Feminism has a long history of caring for and doing something about the plight of non-pampered class women. Maybe, like quite a few other posters in this thread, you need to go and educate yourself a little.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Getaclue

    I bet for every NYT article on real oppression of women you find, I can find 10 on celebrity pay, hair and too much/too little sexual attention.

    • Replies: @photondancer
    @Triteleia Laxa

    I'm sure you could. But since the NYT is trash I don't know what that is supposed to prove.

    Try reading Feminist Current, Women are Human or similar websites for a while and see the difference.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

  263. @Colin Wright
    @Anon

    'Of course, but the word “abuse” is doing a lot of work in your sentence. The meaning has expanded by an order of magnitude and there is a CPS industrial complex now, complete with job creation initiatives.'

    Indeed. About forty years ago, I was working as a substitute teacher. One class, I was given a video about some program for abusive parents.

    Some of those people were real monsters. Serial sexual predators of their own children...

    On the other hand, I remember one woman who was apparently there because she'd slapped her son when he'd talked back to her. I remember my reaction was 'maybe sonny just needs to learn mommy has a quick temper.'

    One of the wiser remarks I heard was from a New York City social worker who said that the biggest problem she saw wasn't abuse, but neglect. And indeed; my wife has an enormous number of relatives, offering all sorts of 'compare and contrast' alternatives. In one of the families with the worst outcome, while the children were growing up, the mother was working full time and the father had two jobs.

    But what do you do about that?

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    Neglect can do more damage than abuse, because it is harder to understand and separate yourself from.

  264. Veterinarian seems like a great job for a man to go into if you’re pretty good at science and you like animals. I wonder why more don’t. I’d rather treat animals than people.

  265. @J.Ross
    @Desiderius

    Aaaaaand it turns out we were totally right to worry about brainless footsoldier Merrick Garland.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    He does what he’s told. That’s the Tin Man, not the Scarecrow.

  266. @Bardon Kaldian
    A question for our race realists: do you consider these two Arab SJW chicks white (ignore their talk, it is nonsense)? I am speaking of the phenotype.

    Or they're tanned whites, non-white Caucasians?

    Or something third?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec7J1yIKVdQ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQqKGJUkQEE

    Replies: @J.Ross, @JohnnyWalker123, @S. Anonyia, @Rob

    The Middle East has a lot of ethnies that go way back and did not come from Europe. One of the distinctions of Europeans which enabled them to get ahead was the Catholic church convincing white folk to stop marrying their cousins. In Islam cousin marriage is normal. From the point of view of blacks they’re “white” (ie, “enemy”). A race unrealist would probably Lebanese and Persians (neither of whom are Arab) as effectively white.

  267. @epochehusserl
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Why even have children if you want someone else to raise them for you?

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    Ask the wealthy. Historically, they outsourced the child-rearing to servants.

    • Replies: @epochehusserl
    @JohnnyWalker123

    In the not so distant past in the West it was also considered a duty for people to take care of their parents even if you were wealthy. People never thought before in history that the wholesale outsourcing of family could be beneficial.

  268. @Bardon Kaldian
    A question for our race realists: do you consider these two Arab SJW chicks white (ignore their talk, it is nonsense)? I am speaking of the phenotype.

    Or they're tanned whites, non-white Caucasians?

    Or something third?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec7J1yIKVdQ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQqKGJUkQEE

    Replies: @J.Ross, @JohnnyWalker123, @S. Anonyia, @Rob

    Mediterranean.

    Phenotypically, White. Culturally&behaviorally, West Asian.

    Their hooked noses give away their Non-Euro origins.

    Christian Arabs are similar to Greeks&Italians, with a strongly mercantile component to their culture.

  269. @photondancer
    @Yancey Ward

    Not according to the many comments I've seen over the years about people feeling obliged to work long hours to show their bosses they're willing. Working only 40 hours a week? Poof go your chances of partnership or even promotion, apparently.

    Who knows, maybe in the end it's just whoever the existing partners like the best.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Alden

    I have a friend She was an actress. Still gets TV residuals. Late 30s she realized acting wasn’t going to work out and started working regular jobs. She mostly worked for start ups. Company makes or breaks in the first 5 years. So she had to get a new job every few years.

    She could always tell if the HR person would call in a few days and say we’ve deduced to hire you.

    That was the point in the interview when the HR person would say “ technically hours are 8:30 to 5. But we usually stay till 7, 7:30”. “ “Would that be a problem”? And the applicant is supposed to say “ oh no!! of course not. I have no family or friends pets lovers or children . I have no other interests but work. I live in a small studio that needs little cleaning and no decorating . I live to work and love to work”

    We should work to live. And if we’re not paid enough to live and are forced to spend 40 or 55 hours a week with affirmative action scum, why work if welfare pays the same minus commuting costs..

    I believe one reason there’s not much complaining about inflation yet is that people saved and are still saving on commuting.

    • Agree: photondancer
  270. @Ralph L
    @Whiskey

    Your comment would be better if we knew what GIBS means.

    Replies: @Nicholas Stix

    It’s short for “GIBSMEDAT.” If that’s not clear to you, you’re at the wrong blog.

    • Replies: @Dissident
    @Nicholas Stix



    Your comment would be better if we knew what GIBS means.
     
    It’s short for “GIBSMEDAT.” If that’s not clear to you, you’re at the wrong blog.
     
    Do you not welcome the new and not-yet-initiated? Is it your wish to repel or discourage such individuals from reading and participating in the discussions here?

    @RalphL: The term refers-to government handouts, particularly welfare to individuals who are widely perceived as unworthy of such taxpayer largess.

  271. @Jmaie
    @Stan D Mute


    Those who are paid more than the surgeons, more than the hospital itself, to make sure that you have a peaceful ride...Ask yourself. “Self, why are anesthesiologists the highest paid medical specialty”?
     
    Anesthesiologists are paid to make sure the patient is far enough under to allow surgery but not so far they don't come back. They pose the greatest risk to the hospital's insurer...

    Replies: @scrivener3

    Anesthesiologists are paid to make sure the patient is far enough under to allow surgery but not so far they don’t come back. They pose the greatest risk to the hospital’s insurer…

    Uh, I think they are paid to put a drug in you to paralyze you, then they insert a ventilator down your throat to breathe for you because you are paralyzed (the difficult part), then you are good to go for surgery. You are not going to flinch no matter what happens.

    They try to stop you from feeling pain, but as a friend/anesthesiologist said “no one ever died from pain.” And you can die from sedation.

    If it becomes obvious you are awake during cutting and hammering and yanking, they can give you versed, which causes:

    Loss of memory while the drug is being administered and for a while afterward (The drug is often used because of this side effect.)

    See, you wake up only remembering counting backwards from 100. Raises the philosophical issue, did it occur if you cannot remember it?

  272. @Triteleia Laxa
    @Almost Missouri

    They sound sensible. A retired Managing Partner of Simmons & Simmons once told me that you used to be able to relax once you reached Partner, but now the ridiculous grind continues. He added that he would have spun himself off in a different direction, had it been the same for him.

    Computers and emails are great tools, but they have also enabled the emergence of all sorts of totally meaningless and unproductive nonsense.

    Replies: @scrivener3

    Making Partner is like winning a pie eating contest, only to find out the prize is …..
    More Pie

  273. Anonymous[152] • Disclaimer says:

    Nobody is forcing women to have kids.

    If a woman wants to have kids I’m not stopping her, and as soon as those kids enter the social contract (24? 12? 8?) I consider them independent members of the human family (before that they are cute so we’re kind to them for

  274. Anonymous[152] • Disclaimer says:

    Oops. I deleted that unfinished comment to write my point more simply without lengthy sidepoints.

    My comment is simply that while I will stand up for a woman’s right to bear children as much as for a man’s right to screw, I am impressed by and celebrate neither.

    A woman’s pet project of bearing children is at its essence a pursely selfish one. She asked none of our permission, is doing it for her own sake, and has no reasonable expectation that the human she is creating will do more good than harm for the already-existing you and I.

    Celebrating mothers quo mothers is cringe. Celebrate your own mother, and your childrens’ mother, and even the idea of ‘motherhood’ if you are soft-minded, but people creating their own mini-me’s? Who asked them?

    And then to dare to make demands on the rest of us — demands that in general are to the detriment of half of the human race? How f*ckin dare they!

    Nationalistic projects are a different story. Germany circa 1935, sure. They all decided that whatever the perverted Dolph wanted was what they wanted. Same with religious groups, Israel circa 1960, Gaza circa 1980….

    Needless to say plenty of other people DID NOT benefit from these nationalistic or religious cults squatting out their national products but their immediate neighbors did so….good and well! Pay the wombs with the sweat of the menfolk!

    But here in America (outside of isolated religious communities) who wants these fecund c*nts? Nobody. Resources spent on them costs me and you. And whatever brotherhood we’ve built the new generation is certain to destroy.

    Have you noticed the wonderful crop that have come of age in the past 10 years? Did their parents do anything for me? No. All they did was create a new nation with no memory, no respect and no interest in life that doesn’t revolve around narcissism and faceless mindless cruelty.

    Who asked them? And if you’re one of them, who asked you? No one but god damn I’d shout in the streets for your right to do it.

    You are alive WITH me here and as a fellow human I will even fight for your right to cheapen my franchise by adding more shareholders.

    You yourself I will pay for and protect. And once your son or daughter are 8 they’re my fellow citizens as well, as entitled to my free care as you are.

    I will share my bread with the born, I will not give you my bread so that you can create a new human ex nihilo who does not now exist except as just another rotting cell in the ovaries.

  275. @Bardon Kaldian
    A question for our race realists: do you consider these two Arab SJW chicks white (ignore their talk, it is nonsense)? I am speaking of the phenotype.

    Or they're tanned whites, non-white Caucasians?

    Or something third?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec7J1yIKVdQ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQqKGJUkQEE

    Replies: @J.Ross, @JohnnyWalker123, @S. Anonyia, @Rob

    I consider them white. I consider anyone who isn’t black, East Asian, East Indian or Amerindian/Pacific Islander as white. Not sure what else these people would be. I also consider about half of Hispanics white. Hispanics who aren’t white are effectively Amerindians. I think most Southerners have the same perceptions.

    It isn’t their tan that makes the Arab women look a bit “different,” it’s more their facial features (the second woman doesn’t even have a tan).

    • Agree: Bardon Kaldian
  276. @Triteleia Laxa
    @photondancer

    I bet for every NYT article on real oppression of women you find, I can find 10 on celebrity pay, hair and too much/too little sexual attention.

    Replies: @photondancer

    I’m sure you could. But since the NYT is trash I don’t know what that is supposed to prove.

    Try reading Feminist Current, Women are Human or similar websites for a while and see the difference.

    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
    @photondancer

    That's like making Ahmadis representive of Islam.

    Replies: @photondancer

  277. Is there a secret contest at the NYT between Kristof, Friedman, Krugman, and Blow to see who can write the dumbest woke article? Sure, black homo Blow has a head start, but these guys are doing their best to catch up.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    @Jim Don Bob

    The black homo at least has some kind of excuse

  278. @BB753
    @guest007

    "At least your physician is not responsible to euthanatize you when you have a terminal disease or your family can no longer afford to care for you."

    Not just yet, but it's coming.

    Replies: @guest007

    Hospice already exist but is done by specialist rather than asking prmary care physicians or oncologist to do it.

  279. Rob says:
    @Bardon Kaldian
    A question for our race realists: do you consider these two Arab SJW chicks white (ignore their talk, it is nonsense)? I am speaking of the phenotype.

    Or they're tanned whites, non-white Caucasians?

    Or something third?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec7J1yIKVdQ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQqKGJUkQEE

    Replies: @J.Ross, @JohnnyWalker123, @S. Anonyia, @Rob

    Are Arabs white? Depends on which meaning of white you are using. Like many Indians and West Asians, along with other ‘MENAs’ Arabs are considered Caucasian. But, as we learned from the Tsarnaevs, Russians do not consider people from the Caucasus region, literal ‘Caucasians’, to be white.

    In the US, ‘white’ is a meta ethnicity, much like Hispanic (which does not include Spaniards!) is meta ethnic. Hispanics are mulattoes and mestizos from various countries with somewhat different population mixes, definitely including which Indian ethnicities contributed to the current population. The immigrants themselves see each other and themselves as Mexican, Guatemalan, etc. The second generation maybe, a definitely third if they have integrated somewhat, see themselves as fellow brownish Spanish-speakers – Hispanics.

    In America, white means descendants of European colonists or immigrants. White implicitly means Christian-influenced, if not actually Christian, and European, and speaking English with an (or one of several) American accents. White means being culturally American. A white American of, say, Italian descent, says of the Revolution ‘we fought Britain for independence…’ and when talking about Italy, says ‘The Italians, they…’, or ‘ ‘ in Sicily, they…’

    Do most Arabs in America consider themselves American before they think of themselves as Arabs, or members of their clans? Middle Eastern countries are not nation-states, so I would not use ‘does not think of himself as Iraqi before American’.

    I think if Arabs were white, they would recognize increased scrutiny post-9-11 as an understandable burden. What did Italians here think of Sacco and Vanzetti?

    Ultimately, whether MENAs are white comes down to assimilation and intermarriage. If they marry whites and act like whites, and drop the alien religion in reality, if not nominally, then they are white. If their American-born children turn into Jihadis and join ISIS, then they are not white. If Arabs in America claim they are non-white, they are non-white (and won’t have the option to fly to white if the best race to be changes.

    The Arabs have a very different recent evolutionary history than Europeans. They are certainly somewhat biologically different due to that history. I think they will have trouble assimilating because of that.

    As to the videos, the first chick was outlined in white, presumably to make her skin look darker. The second, well, she is fairly light for an Egyptian,band said her family was upper-class there. Kinda interesting that the upper-class looked white. Small sample size, I know. The fact that they look down on blacks does not, in itself, make them white. Asians look down on blacks, and they aren’t white.

    In the US, i think white pretty much means European. I would love to be wrong about Arab immigrants and their descendants. I hope they assimilate.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Rob

    Of course that Europeans are white.

    And, in my opinion, those from Caucasus are also white, as are many light Arabs, if they identify with the Western civilization.

    In this respect, race is, at least partially, a social construct. If one is a bit "tanned", but when he says "we", and he thinks all the way from Greece to American historical culture, then he is white.

    If, on the other hand, one's primary loyalty lies with Islam, Buddhist sects, Hindu castes, non-European cultural traditions- she me be as white as a Snow white, but she is not "we".

    So, it is looks plus culture.

  280. @Buffalo Joe
    @Alden

    Alden, I have to expand on my "good comment" I gave you. Sick days and personal days are abused and then when people need them they don't have them. Buffalo City school teachers average 18 days per academic year out of the classroom. That is three weeks of class plus 3 days. Paid of course. I worked twenty five years in construction, no sick days or vacation, However, on two separate big projects that last three plus years each, I got two weeks paid vacation.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    Sick days and personal days are abused…

    Many union contracts say sick and personal days belong to the employee and they can cash them in when they retire. I think this is wrong.

    Some companies are going to a plan where you get, say, 21 days of leave a year. You can take them as vacation, sick, personal, whatever you like, and these days are use it or lose it because they expire at year end.

    They are also avoiding the Columbus/MLK land mine by giving everyone the 8 of the 10 Federal holiday that do not include those two, and then letting people have two floating holidays.

  281. @photondancer
    @EdwardM

    Yes, I know. The CEO example isn't a very good choice on Kristof's part, since a CEO wouldn't be asking routine accounting questions. My questions were aimed at seeing if the analogy still holds for more ordinary people. The article, incidentally, doesn't say 'emergency'.

    Replies: @EdwardM

    Fair enough. My criticism of Kristof is that he seems to think of all private-sector workers, as evidenced by the faceless members of the gaggle he comes into contact with by virtue of their serving him in his cushy life — the accountants, pediatricians, veteranarians (but certainly not newspaper columnists) — as just interchangeable cogs. Part-time, job share, outsource, quota hire, doesn’t matter. Typical leftist/globalist view of capitalism.

    • Agree: photondancer
  282. @photondancer
    @Triteleia Laxa

    I'm sure you could. But since the NYT is trash I don't know what that is supposed to prove.

    Try reading Feminist Current, Women are Human or similar websites for a while and see the difference.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    That’s like making Ahmadis representive of Islam.

    • Replies: @photondancer
    @Triteleia Laxa

    No, it means I'm saying a feminist is a woman who cares about the rights of other women including and especially working class/third world women, not one who writes self serving rubbish about her hair.

  283. @Rob
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Are Arabs white? Depends on which meaning of white you are using. Like many Indians and West Asians, along with other ‘MENAs’ Arabs are considered Caucasian. But, as we learned from the Tsarnaevs, Russians do not consider people from the Caucasus region, literal ‘Caucasians’, to be white.

    In the US, ‘white’ is a meta ethnicity, much like Hispanic (which does not include Spaniards!) is meta ethnic. Hispanics are mulattoes and mestizos from various countries with somewhat different population mixes, definitely including which Indian ethnicities contributed to the current population. The immigrants themselves see each other and themselves as Mexican, Guatemalan, etc. The second generation maybe, a definitely third if they have integrated somewhat, see themselves as fellow brownish Spanish-speakers - Hispanics.

    In America, white means descendants of European colonists or immigrants. White implicitly means Christian-influenced, if not actually Christian, and European, and speaking English with an (or one of several) American accents. White means being culturally American. A white American of, say, Italian descent, says of the Revolution ‘we fought Britain for independence…’ and when talking about Italy, says ‘The Italians, they…’, or ‘ ‘ in Sicily, they…’

    Do most Arabs in America consider themselves American before they think of themselves as Arabs, or members of their clans? Middle Eastern countries are not nation-states, so I would not use ‘does not think of himself as Iraqi before American’.

    I think if Arabs were white, they would recognize increased scrutiny post-9-11 as an understandable burden. What did Italians here think of Sacco and Vanzetti?

    Ultimately, whether MENAs are white comes down to assimilation and intermarriage. If they marry whites and act like whites, and drop the alien religion in reality, if not nominally, then they are white. If their American-born children turn into Jihadis and join ISIS, then they are not white. If Arabs in America claim they are non-white, they are non-white (and won’t have the option to fly to white if the best race to be changes.

    The Arabs have a very different recent evolutionary history than Europeans. They are certainly somewhat biologically different due to that history. I think they will have trouble assimilating because of that.

    As to the videos, the first chick was outlined in white, presumably to make her skin look darker. The second, well, she is fairly light for an Egyptian,band said her family was upper-class there. Kinda interesting that the upper-class looked white. Small sample size, I know. The fact that they look down on blacks does not, in itself, make them white. Asians look down on blacks, and they aren’t white.

    In the US, i think white pretty much means European. I would love to be wrong about Arab immigrants and their descendants. I hope they assimilate.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    Of course that Europeans are white.

    And, in my opinion, those from Caucasus are also white, as are many light Arabs, if they identify with the Western civilization.

    In this respect, race is, at least partially, a social construct. If one is a bit “tanned”, but when he says “we”, and he thinks all the way from Greece to American historical culture, then he is white.

    If, on the other hand, one’s primary loyalty lies with Islam, Buddhist sects, Hindu castes, non-European cultural traditions- she me be as white as a Snow white, but she is not “we”.

    So, it is looks plus culture.

  284. @Mulga Mumblebrain
    @Barack Obama's secret Unz account

    Why does she not say 'my partner'? And WuDunn-what is that? Wu as her father's former property, and Dunn for whom? I really detest hyphenated surnames for supposedly 'liberated' women, even without the hyphen. They just indicate property transfer. Would the, straight, feminists expect their 'husbands'/partners to adopt similar double-barreled monikers? John Lennon did it.

    Replies: @Getaclue

    John Lennon — Genius! — who needs Private Security in NYC?…such a no brainer, no worries — he had his Yoker so he needed nothing else….

  285. @photondancer
    @Triteleia Laxa

    You seem to be using the label 'feminist' very selectively.

    I see women getting angry about the situation of African (etc.) women all the time. Feminism has a long history of caring for and doing something about the plight of non-pampered class women. Maybe, like quite a few other posters in this thread, you need to go and educate yourself a little.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Getaclue

    Did alot for hundreds of millions of pre-born babies too?….Really sick of the whole Grievance Studies area of bs, so many lies told constantly, saw it in the Military years ago — better than the men! LOL — The Trannys they created and cheered on will now deal with the Feminist Western Civilization wreckers — hopefully they strangle each other and both disappear forever

  286. @black sea
    @SimpleSong

    Thanks for this and the previous comment. They more or less reflect what I've had a couple of doctor friends tell me over the years. That it's closer to manual labor than a lot of students expect, and that there is definitely a ceiling as to how much you can charge for your services. If you want to maximize your income, you work about as many hours as is humanly possible.

    Also, I've never talked to a doctor who had positive things to say about the billing system and working with Medicare or insurance companies. There are probably some gross inefficiencies there, and cost-cutting is never going to be popular among those whose costs are being cut.

    Replies: @Prof. Woland

    First generation wealth is typically generated by someone in a low prestige business where they worked their tails off and were frugal. They also often took a lot of risk. When they finally make it, the first thing they do is put their kids through medical or law school because. This gives them the respect they did not have and it is a much lower risk occupation in the sense that it is hard to fail once you have your schooling which was paid my mom and dad.

  287. @Jim Don Bob
    Is there a secret contest at the NYT between Kristof, Friedman, Krugman, and Blow to see who can write the dumbest woke article? Sure, black homo Blow has a head start, but these guys are doing their best to catch up.

    Replies: @Known Fact

    The black homo at least has some kind of excuse

  288. Crx says:

    https://www.csmonitor.com/layout/set/amphtml/World/Middle-East/2018/1214/Israel-booms-with-babies-as-developed-world-s-birth-rates-plummet.-Here-s-why

    Ron Ganot, who was selling collapsible, lightweight wagons for children at the BabyLand event, says he and his wife are expecting their third child. Family is central to his life, he says, and he gets together every week with relatives.

    “We definitely need more money, and we have rising expenses,” he says, “but I want a large family and the cost of living won’t stop us.”

  289. Anonymous[377] • Disclaimer says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    @S. Anonyia

    As recently as the early 90s, kids were given a lot of freedom and expected to be independent.

    By the early 2000s, you started to see lots of helicopter parenting, especially among the more educated. At this point, helicopter parenting is the norm for all economic classes and races.

    Here's an interesting article about how parents won't let their kids participate in sleepovers anymore. As recently as the late 90s, I recall the overwhelming majority of parents were letting their kids do sleepovers. Not anymore. See below.

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/lifestyles/parenting/sc-fam-parents-against-sleepovers-0905-story.html

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Kids all have smartphones and laptops now. This wasn’t the case in the 1990s. They don’t need to go to friend’s houses to socialise with them. They can have ‘sleepovers’ (i.e. gossip with friends all night) without leaving their own bedrooms.

    • Replies: @Dissident
    @Anonymous


    They don’t need to go to friend’s houses to socialise with them. They can have ‘sleepovers’ (i.e. gossip with friends all night) without leaving their own bedrooms.
     
    Just gossip? Would that were to be all...

    At least such remote contact cannot spread pathogens (at least not of the biological variety) or result in pregnancy or direct physical harm.

    Incidentally, it is in this very vein that I would challenge the reflexive, categorical, unqualified objection to robotic sex dolls. The key question in such cases is, compared to what? The sexbot as a substitute for a relationship with a live, human member of the opposite sex-- a relationship that can reasonably be considered wholesome and a net benefit on a societal level? How many individuals, of those for whom forming and maintaining such a relationship is a viable option, would find any non-human object a satisfactory substitute?

    To the extent that anyone would find a sexbot a satisfactory substitute for a relationship with a real person, wouldn't such a relationship have been little more than a mostly if not entirely self-serving, transactional one; one motivated by or achieving little more than the gratification of raw carnal lust? To the extent that is the case, couldn't a sexbot be viewed as preferable; as, at the very least, as a lesser evil of sorts?

  290. @JohnnyWalker123
    @epochehusserl

    Ask the wealthy. Historically, they outsourced the child-rearing to servants.

    Replies: @epochehusserl

    In the not so distant past in the West it was also considered a duty for people to take care of their parents even if you were wealthy. People never thought before in history that the wholesale outsourcing of family could be beneficial.

  291. @Anonymous
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Kids all have smartphones and laptops now. This wasn't the case in the 1990s. They don't need to go to friend's houses to socialise with them. They can have 'sleepovers' (i.e. gossip with friends all night) without leaving their own bedrooms.

    Replies: @Dissident

    They don’t need to go to friend’s houses to socialise with them. They can have ‘sleepovers’ (i.e. gossip with friends all night) without leaving their own bedrooms.

    Just gossip? Would that were to be all…

    At least such remote contact cannot spread pathogens (at least not of the biological variety) or result in pregnancy or direct physical harm.

    Incidentally, it is in this very vein that I would challenge the reflexive, categorical, unqualified objection to robotic sex dolls.

    [MORE]
    The key question in such cases is, compared to what? The sexbot as a substitute for a relationship with a live, human member of the opposite sex– a relationship that can reasonably be considered wholesome and a net benefit on a societal level? How many individuals, of those for whom forming and maintaining such a relationship is a viable option, would find any non-human object a satisfactory substitute?

    To the extent that anyone would find a sexbot a satisfactory substitute for a relationship with a real person, wouldn’t such a relationship have been little more than a mostly if not entirely self-serving, transactional one; one motivated by or achieving little more than the gratification of raw carnal lust? To the extent that is the case, couldn’t a sexbot be viewed as preferable; as, at the very least, as a lesser evil of sorts?

  292. @Nicholas Stix
    @Ralph L

    It's short for "GIBSMEDAT." If that's not clear to you, you're at the wrong blog.

    Replies: @Dissident

    Your comment would be better if we knew what GIBS means.

    It’s short for “GIBSMEDAT.” If that’s not clear to you, you’re at the wrong blog.

    Do you not welcome the new and not-yet-initiated? Is it your wish to repel or discourage such individuals from reading and participating in the discussions here?

    @RalphL: The term refers-to government handouts, particularly welfare to individuals who are widely perceived as unworthy of such taxpayer largess.

    • Thanks: photondancer
  293. @Triteleia Laxa
    It is easy for a smart and ambitious woman to combine her career with kids. She only need do exactly what men with the same desires do, and find a spouse who is less ambitious than her, and support them financially, in return for them looking after the house.

    That means sacrificing a big part of your pay cheque, and a lot of the concomitant consumerism; but there's no lack of men who will agree.

    Or, if they're exceptionally bright and ambitious, they could run their husband's concern, from home, using him like a puppet. Women have done this for millenia.

    What they can't do, is not really work and yet earn as much as someone who does. I would love that, but I would always love to have my cake and eat it.

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans, @Travis, @Dissident, @Anonymous Jew, @YetAnotherAnon

    “she only need do exactly what men with the same desires do, and find a spouse who is less ambitious than her, and support them financially, in return for them looking after the house”

    But a lot of women won’t want to do that. Most women want a man who earns more than they do* – and most men who have kids want to support their family if they possibly can.

    Given (in the UK at least) both med school and vet school are about two thirds female, this is a potential problem. All the vets and doctors I know who are mothers work part time, at least while the children are small – some leave medicine altogether if the husband earns enough. By contrast, all the male doctors work full time right up to retirement, as do the childless lady doctors.

    The War On Biology continues.

    I do tend to think that this constant harping about equal pay (even after legislation ensuring you can’t have different pay levels for the same job) is just another front in the War On White Fertility.

    * ok, if you’re JK Rowling you may have to compromise

    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
    @YetAnotherAnon


    But a lot of women won’t want to do that. Most women want a man who earns more than they do* – and most men who have kids want to support their family if they possibly can.
     
    I find that most people spend their life trying to work out what it is they want. To help out, I like to offer options for them to consider; focusing on those which are simple and realistic.

    Given (in the UK at least) both med school and vet school are about two thirds female, this is a potential problem. All the vets and doctors I know who are mothers work part time, at least while the children are small – some leave medicine altogether if the husband earns enough. By contrast, all the male doctors work full time right up to retirement, as do the childless lady doctors
     
    If medical and veterinarian careers are not attractive enough to secure the labour they need, then they need to have lower barriers to entry, or improve pay and conditions.

    I don't know what your solution would be, perhaps some sort of cultural counter-revolution, but mine is simple and realistic.

    Would it be unfair for me to suppose that this would be your solution for everything?


    I do tend to think that this constant harping about equal pay (even after legislation ensuring you can’t have different pay levels for the same job) is just another front in the War On White Fertility
     
    Or, perhaps women just want more money?

    Replies: @anon, @YetAnotherAnon

    , @Crx
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Women in med school (to this degree) is causing a physician shortage in the US. They generally work less for family reasons, go less into the difficult specialties that delay family formation, simply do not produce the number of medical practice hours per physician that men do. So what is the US response? We hire foreign physicians. So we turn qualified US men down for med school (which we do in favor of women) in order to later hire foreign men. It is a truly insane system.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Francis Miville

  294. Goldin is asking for a rethink because there’s no solution, as she, Katz, and Bertrand found 10 years ago.

    https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/goldin/files/dynamics_of_the_gender_gap_for_young_professionals_in_the_financial_and_corporate_sectors.pdf

    From the abstract:

    Most interesting is why female MBAs have not done as well as their male peers.
    We identify three proximate reasons for the large and rising gender gap in earnings
    that emerges within a few years of MBA completion: differences in business school
    courses and grades; differences in career interruptions; and differences in weekly
    hours worked. These three determinants combined can explain 84 percent of the 31
    log point raw gender gap in earnings pooling across all the years following MBA
    completion. Because the relative importance of each factor changes with years since
    MBA completion, we explore the evolution in the earnings gap by sex by time since
    obtaining the MBA. We also compare women without any career interruptions and
    any children to all men.
    Male and female MBAs begin their careers with somewhat different training.
    Men take more finance courses and have higher GPAs in business school. Gender
    differences in grades and courses are not large but contribute to the earnings gap
    because of large labor market returns to these components of MBA training. The
    large growth in the gender gap in earnings for MBAs during their first 15 years out
    of school, is mainly a consequence of gender differences in career interruptions and
    weekly hours worked. Women have more career interruptions, and work shorter
    hours, including more work in part-time positions and self-employment. Although
    these differences are modest, the remuneration disparity they entail is exceptionally large. The relationship between income and time off is highly nonlinear for
    those in our sample. Any career interruption—a period of 6 months or more out
    of work—is costly in terms of future earnings, and at 10 years out, women are 22
    percentage points more likely than men to have had at least one career interruption.
    Deviations from the male norm of high hours and continuous labor market attachment are greatly penalized in the corporate and financial sectors.

    The comments have discussed the hours/career pauses issues to death, but how can one expect equal outcomes when women take easier college courses and get worse grades?

    • Replies: @anon
    @Brutusale

    The comments have discussed the hours/career pauses issues to death, but how can one expect equal outcomes when women take easier college courses and get worse grades?

    Easy! Mandate equal outcomes regardless of coursework, grades or even workload.

    What could possibly go wrong?

  295. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Triteleia Laxa

    "she only need do exactly what men with the same desires do, and find a spouse who is less ambitious than her, and support them financially, in return for them looking after the house"

    But a lot of women won't want to do that. Most women want a man who earns more than they do* - and most men who have kids want to support their family if they possibly can.

    Given (in the UK at least) both med school and vet school are about two thirds female, this is a potential problem. All the vets and doctors I know who are mothers work part time, at least while the children are small - some leave medicine altogether if the husband earns enough. By contrast, all the male doctors work full time right up to retirement, as do the childless lady doctors.

    The War On Biology continues.

    I do tend to think that this constant harping about equal pay (even after legislation ensuring you can't have different pay levels for the same job) is just another front in the War On White Fertility.

    * ok, if you're JK Rowling you may have to compromise

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Crx

    But a lot of women won’t want to do that. Most women want a man who earns more than they do* – and most men who have kids want to support their family if they possibly can.

    I find that most people spend their life trying to work out what it is they want. To help out, I like to offer options for them to consider; focusing on those which are simple and realistic.

    Given (in the UK at least) both med school and vet school are about two thirds female, this is a potential problem. All the vets and doctors I know who are mothers work part time, at least while the children are small – some leave medicine altogether if the husband earns enough. By contrast, all the male doctors work full time right up to retirement, as do the childless lady doctors

    If medical and veterinarian careers are not attractive enough to secure the labour they need, then they need to have lower barriers to entry, or improve pay and conditions.

    I don’t know what your solution would be, perhaps some sort of cultural counter-revolution, but mine is simple and realistic.

    Would it be unfair for me to suppose that this would be your solution for everything?

    I do tend to think that this constant harping about equal pay (even after legislation ensuring you can’t have different pay levels for the same job) is just another front in the War On White Fertility

    Or, perhaps women just want more money?

    • Replies: @anon
    @Triteleia Laxa

    If medical and veterinarian careers are not attractive enough to secure the labour they need, then they need to have lower barriers to entry, or improve pay and conditions.

    Have you written the National Health Service to inform them of this fact? If not, you should do so at the earliest possible moment. I'm sure they are awaiting your opinion with bated breath.

    PS:

    lol

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @Triteleia Laxa

    I think you have missed my point completely.

    a) there's zero problem in attracting people to med or vet school, the two undergrad degrees with most competition for places.

    b) the problem from a societal perspective is that a trained female doctor/vet will be part time or not working at all if she has kids (which we want them to do, they're bright and usually with better interpersonal skills than the guys) - so training 10 females gives you maybe 5 FTDE (full time doc equivalents). Med school training is expensive - about 30k a year if you are paying your own fees. But in the UK this usually falls on the taxpayer.

    c) there is a spin-off problem that there aren't enough male doctors to go round when it comes to the marriage market. Who is our lady doctor in a blue-collar rust belt town going to marry?

    It's not a question of wanting more money - lady doctors are rarely married to burger flippers and go part time or drop out altogether because they value other things more (and they have this choice by having a wealthy husband).

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

  296. @Brutusale
    Goldin is asking for a rethink because there's no solution, as she, Katz, and Bertrand found 10 years ago.

    https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/goldin/files/dynamics_of_the_gender_gap_for_young_professionals_in_the_financial_and_corporate_sectors.pdf

    From the abstract:

    Most interesting is why female MBAs have not done as well as their male peers.
    We identify three proximate reasons for the large and rising gender gap in earnings
    that emerges within a few years of MBA completion: differences in business school
    courses and grades; differences in career interruptions; and differences in weekly
    hours worked. These three determinants combined can explain 84 percent of the 31
    log point raw gender gap in earnings pooling across all the years following MBA
    completion. Because the relative importance of each factor changes with years since
    MBA completion, we explore the evolution in the earnings gap by sex by time since
    obtaining the MBA. We also compare women without any career interruptions and
    any children to all men.
    Male and female MBAs begin their careers with somewhat different training.
    Men take more finance courses and have higher GPAs in business school. Gender
    differences in grades and courses are not large but contribute to the earnings gap
    because of large labor market returns to these components of MBA training. The
    large growth in the gender gap in earnings for MBAs during their first 15 years out
    of school, is mainly a consequence of gender differences in career interruptions and
    weekly hours worked. Women have more career interruptions, and work shorter
    hours, including more work in part-time positions and self-employment. Although
    these differences are modest, the remuneration disparity they entail is exceptionally large. The relationship between income and time off is highly nonlinear for
    those in our sample. Any career interruption—a period of 6 months or more out
    of work—is costly in terms of future earnings, and at 10 years out, women are 22
    percentage points more likely than men to have had at least one career interruption.
    Deviations from the male norm of high hours and continuous labor market attachment are greatly penalized in the corporate and financial sectors.

    The comments have discussed the hours/career pauses issues to death, but how can one expect equal outcomes when women take easier college courses and get worse grades?

    Replies: @anon

    The comments have discussed the hours/career pauses issues to death, but how can one expect equal outcomes when women take easier college courses and get worse grades?

    Easy! Mandate equal outcomes regardless of coursework, grades or even workload.

    What could possibly go wrong?

  297. anon[326] • Disclaimer says:
    @Triteleia Laxa
    @YetAnotherAnon


    But a lot of women won’t want to do that. Most women want a man who earns more than they do* – and most men who have kids want to support their family if they possibly can.
     
    I find that most people spend their life trying to work out what it is they want. To help out, I like to offer options for them to consider; focusing on those which are simple and realistic.

    Given (in the UK at least) both med school and vet school are about two thirds female, this is a potential problem. All the vets and doctors I know who are mothers work part time, at least while the children are small – some leave medicine altogether if the husband earns enough. By contrast, all the male doctors work full time right up to retirement, as do the childless lady doctors
     
    If medical and veterinarian careers are not attractive enough to secure the labour they need, then they need to have lower barriers to entry, or improve pay and conditions.

    I don't know what your solution would be, perhaps some sort of cultural counter-revolution, but mine is simple and realistic.

    Would it be unfair for me to suppose that this would be your solution for everything?


    I do tend to think that this constant harping about equal pay (even after legislation ensuring you can’t have different pay levels for the same job) is just another front in the War On White Fertility
     
    Or, perhaps women just want more money?

    Replies: @anon, @YetAnotherAnon

    If medical and veterinarian careers are not attractive enough to secure the labour they need, then they need to have lower barriers to entry, or improve pay and conditions.

    Have you written the National Health Service to inform them of this fact? If not, you should do so at the earliest possible moment. I’m sure they are awaiting your opinion with bated breath.

    PS:

    lol

    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
    @anon

    Are you laughing because my statement is obviously true or false?

    It would be a lot easier for the. to raise pay/improve conditions than completely transform the way society thinks about men and women.

  298. Crx says:
    @YetAnotherAnon
    @Triteleia Laxa

    "she only need do exactly what men with the same desires do, and find a spouse who is less ambitious than her, and support them financially, in return for them looking after the house"

    But a lot of women won't want to do that. Most women want a man who earns more than they do* - and most men who have kids want to support their family if they possibly can.

    Given (in the UK at least) both med school and vet school are about two thirds female, this is a potential problem. All the vets and doctors I know who are mothers work part time, at least while the children are small - some leave medicine altogether if the husband earns enough. By contrast, all the male doctors work full time right up to retirement, as do the childless lady doctors.

    The War On Biology continues.

    I do tend to think that this constant harping about equal pay (even after legislation ensuring you can't have different pay levels for the same job) is just another front in the War On White Fertility.

    * ok, if you're JK Rowling you may have to compromise

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Crx

    Women in med school (to this degree) is causing a physician shortage in the US. They generally work less for family reasons, go less into the difficult specialties that delay family formation, simply do not produce the number of medical practice hours per physician that men do. So what is the US response? We hire foreign physicians. So we turn qualified US men down for med school (which we do in favor of women) in order to later hire foreign men. It is a truly insane system.

    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
    @Crx

    Since Medical education in the US is private, can't it just expand to meet demand, rather than turn away qualified men? I hear there's an internationally recognised medical school on a pretty chill Carribean island. I'd go there if I had the money for medical training and were so inclined.

    Replies: @anon, @Crx

    , @Francis Miville
    @Crx

    American White males should be considered not a race but a genetic recessive illness resulting in a chemical imbalance in the brain preventing one from exerting qualified professions.

  299. @anon
    @Triteleia Laxa

    If medical and veterinarian careers are not attractive enough to secure the labour they need, then they need to have lower barriers to entry, or improve pay and conditions.

    Have you written the National Health Service to inform them of this fact? If not, you should do so at the earliest possible moment. I'm sure they are awaiting your opinion with bated breath.

    PS:

    lol

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    Are you laughing because my statement is obviously true or false?

    It would be a lot easier for the. to raise pay/improve conditions than completely transform the way society thinks about men and women.

  300. @Crx
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Women in med school (to this degree) is causing a physician shortage in the US. They generally work less for family reasons, go less into the difficult specialties that delay family formation, simply do not produce the number of medical practice hours per physician that men do. So what is the US response? We hire foreign physicians. So we turn qualified US men down for med school (which we do in favor of women) in order to later hire foreign men. It is a truly insane system.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Francis Miville

    Since Medical education in the US is private, can’t it just expand to meet demand, rather than turn away qualified men? I hear there’s an internationally recognised medical school on a pretty chill Carribean island. I’d go there if I had the money for medical training and were so inclined.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Since Medical education in the US is private,

    Wrong. There are both public and private schools of medicine in the US.

    can’t it just expand to meet demand, rather than turn away qualified men?

    Perhaps if you knew what you are going on about, you would avoid such a foolish statement.

    Of course, since you are yet another midwit troll, nothing of substance can be expected from you.

    , @Crx
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Private medical school is outrageously expensive. For example Texas runs a very good public med school system that runs about 20-25K a year tuition. Private schools can run 3-4 times this. In the US, private schools are as woke as public schools. But yes, you are right there is an expansion in Caribbean schools.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  301. anon[416] • Disclaimer says:
    @Triteleia Laxa
    @Crx

    Since Medical education in the US is private, can't it just expand to meet demand, rather than turn away qualified men? I hear there's an internationally recognised medical school on a pretty chill Carribean island. I'd go there if I had the money for medical training and were so inclined.

    Replies: @anon, @Crx

    Since Medical education in the US is private,

    Wrong. There are both public and private schools of medicine in the US.

    can’t it just expand to meet demand, rather than turn away qualified men?

    Perhaps if you knew what you are going on about, you would avoid such a foolish statement.

    Of course, since you are yet another midwit troll, nothing of substance can be expected from you.

  302. Crx says:
    @Triteleia Laxa
    @Crx

    Since Medical education in the US is private, can't it just expand to meet demand, rather than turn away qualified men? I hear there's an internationally recognised medical school on a pretty chill Carribean island. I'd go there if I had the money for medical training and were so inclined.

    Replies: @anon, @Crx

    Private medical school is outrageously expensive. For example Texas runs a very good public med school system that runs about 20-25K a year tuition. Private schools can run 3-4 times this. In the US, private schools are as woke as public schools. But yes, you are right there is an expansion in Caribbean schools.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Crx

    A friend of mine in high school made it to Double AA minor leagues in baseball but the manager blew out his arm because they didn't know about pitch counts then. He then went to the Grenada medical school, came home, and passed his tests and became a doctor.

  303. @Triteleia Laxa
    @YetAnotherAnon


    But a lot of women won’t want to do that. Most women want a man who earns more than they do* – and most men who have kids want to support their family if they possibly can.
     
    I find that most people spend their life trying to work out what it is they want. To help out, I like to offer options for them to consider; focusing on those which are simple and realistic.

    Given (in the UK at least) both med school and vet school are about two thirds female, this is a potential problem. All the vets and doctors I know who are mothers work part time, at least while the children are small – some leave medicine altogether if the husband earns enough. By contrast, all the male doctors work full time right up to retirement, as do the childless lady doctors
     
    If medical and veterinarian careers are not attractive enough to secure the labour they need, then they need to have lower barriers to entry, or improve pay and conditions.

    I don't know what your solution would be, perhaps some sort of cultural counter-revolution, but mine is simple and realistic.

    Would it be unfair for me to suppose that this would be your solution for everything?


    I do tend to think that this constant harping about equal pay (even after legislation ensuring you can’t have different pay levels for the same job) is just another front in the War On White Fertility
     
    Or, perhaps women just want more money?

    Replies: @anon, @YetAnotherAnon

    I think you have missed my point completely.

    a) there’s zero problem in attracting people to med or vet school, the two undergrad degrees with most competition for places.

    b) the problem from a societal perspective is that a trained female doctor/vet will be part time or not working at all if she has kids (which we want them to do, they’re bright and usually with better interpersonal skills than the guys) – so training 10 females gives you maybe 5 FTDE (full time doc equivalents). Med school training is expensive – about 30k a year if you are paying your own fees. But in the UK this usually falls on the taxpayer.

    c) there is a spin-off problem that there aren’t enough male doctors to go round when it comes to the marriage market. Who is our lady doctor in a blue-collar rust belt town going to marry?

    It’s not a question of wanting more money – lady doctors are rarely married to burger flippers and go part time or drop out altogether because they value other things more (and they have this choice by having a wealthy husband).

    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
    @YetAnotherAnon


    a) there’s zero problem in attracting people to med or vet school, the two undergrad degrees with most competition for places.
     
    I said "lower the barriers to entry". This includes expanding the number of places at medical school; which would allow a lot more doctors to be trained.

    I don't think the cost is prohibitive, given the benefit.

    I am also not interested in arguments about how women must be discriminated against in medical school, so that they are less successful, so that they can more easily find a man who is more successful than them.

    I find it sinister how many men here, think that by framing this as if it is in women"s interests, it can look like anything, but obvious misogyny. It comes across as cowardly too.

    I might as well propose deforming men's faces, so that they can more easily find women who are hotter than them. It would be just so extremely kind to men! Something something specious biological bs argument.

    Replies: @anon

  304. @Richard of Melbourne
    @SimpleSong

    On the other hand pretty much all innovation that I see tends to be driven by males ...

    A point that Germaine Greer, no less, agreed with in the following terms (I quote from memory):

    "If it weren't for men we would all still be living in grass huts."

    Replies: @photondancer, @Almost Missouri, @Jmaie, @Culpeper

    The Germain one is not witty enough for that wrongly attributed quip.. Camille Anna Paglia coined that insight and another, being more to the point, ” Modern feminism, which she writes, “has become a catchall vegetable drawer where bunches of clingy sob sisters can store their moldy neuroses”, Free Women, Free men: Sex, Gender, and Feminism,. Pantheon 2017. also posing a question of the Academic left as allowing speech codes that amount to “the grotesque surveillance of campus and student life”.

  305. @Ralph L
    My sister's best friend in HS went to Ohio State from the DC area to become a vet, until she discovered it meant putting her arm up cows' butts a lot, so she became a people doctor instead (at least that's what I heard--it may have been the money). She had wanted to be a pet vet.

    Replies: @Culpeper

    A “here, pussy-pussy” nurse.?

  306. @Crx
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Women in med school (to this degree) is causing a physician shortage in the US. They generally work less for family reasons, go less into the difficult specialties that delay family formation, simply do not produce the number of medical practice hours per physician that men do. So what is the US response? We hire foreign physicians. So we turn qualified US men down for med school (which we do in favor of women) in order to later hire foreign men. It is a truly insane system.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Francis Miville

    American White males should be considered not a race but a genetic recessive illness resulting in a chemical imbalance in the brain preventing one from exerting qualified professions.

  307. @HFR
    @rebel yell

    "...the feminist movement was started by Radcliffe and Wellesley grads..."

    Gloria Steinem and Betty Friedan graduated from Smith College; Bella Abzug had a BA from Hunter College and a law degree from Columbia; Germain Greer had a BA from U. of Melbourne, an MA from U. of Sydney, and a PhD from U.of Cambridge.

    And many working-class women have had abortions that they wished had been as safe as the ones that educated upper-middle-class women were able to have long before abortions were legal.

    Replies: @Culpeper

    Give me the ‘ace’, Camille P. any day over the rest of the motor-mouthed, sad-sack, occupants of the vegetable drawer..!

  308. @Wilkey
    Laurene Jobs, Melinda Gates, and Mackenzie Bezos are supposedly all feminists. I’d like to hear their thoughts about how their late/ex/soon-to-be-ex husbands should have spent less time at the office and should have expected them to work more. But I’m sure they weren’t saying much about it while their former husbands were busy turning them into three of the richest women in the world.

    It’s frightening that even as birthrates tank all across the Western world, to a point where it is literally threatening the survival of our nations, these asshats are still obsessed with “equal pay” to a degree that they’d gladly drive birthrates even lower to accomplish their pointless and unaccomplishable goal. 90% of all women (and men) would rather have a happy marriage than “equal pay,” so why do we even pay attention to these people?

    Replies: @Culpeper

    Take in the just released poll of 60,000 Ozzies, check the “willl you marry and have children” stats, by wimin’s cohorts.
    Why do men bother…? The three ‘F’ seem the common sense way to go…!

    By the way I lived as a working farmer while my Psychologist Academic ‘partener’ of 25 years wrote stuff and papers on communication within the ‘Partener’ diyad. Untill she scarpered with a fellow tiachi bonk. She rented me, as a saving on her personal income tax to the tune of paying 20% of her cohorts obligations. 2.5 decades of the best years of my life..?
    ‘Ah’ the beauty and honesty of the whores..” They dont swell, they seldom tell and they are as pleased as hell whe you pay them well.”
    To paraphtase the great Ozzie hero, Ned Kelly said, when judge Owen Redman doffed the’ Black Cap’.

    “Such is life”.!

  309. @Crx
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Private medical school is outrageously expensive. For example Texas runs a very good public med school system that runs about 20-25K a year tuition. Private schools can run 3-4 times this. In the US, private schools are as woke as public schools. But yes, you are right there is an expansion in Caribbean schools.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    A friend of mine in high school made it to Double AA minor leagues in baseball but the manager blew out his arm because they didn’t know about pitch counts then. He then went to the Grenada medical school, came home, and passed his tests and became a doctor.

    • Thanks: Triteleia Laxa
  310. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Triteleia Laxa

    I think you have missed my point completely.

    a) there's zero problem in attracting people to med or vet school, the two undergrad degrees with most competition for places.

    b) the problem from a societal perspective is that a trained female doctor/vet will be part time or not working at all if she has kids (which we want them to do, they're bright and usually with better interpersonal skills than the guys) - so training 10 females gives you maybe 5 FTDE (full time doc equivalents). Med school training is expensive - about 30k a year if you are paying your own fees. But in the UK this usually falls on the taxpayer.

    c) there is a spin-off problem that there aren't enough male doctors to go round when it comes to the marriage market. Who is our lady doctor in a blue-collar rust belt town going to marry?

    It's not a question of wanting more money - lady doctors are rarely married to burger flippers and go part time or drop out altogether because they value other things more (and they have this choice by having a wealthy husband).

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    a) there’s zero problem in attracting people to med or vet school, the two undergrad degrees with most competition for places.

    I said “lower the barriers to entry”. This includes expanding the number of places at medical school; which would allow a lot more doctors to be trained.

    I don’t think the cost is prohibitive, given the benefit.

    I am also not interested in arguments about how women must be discriminated against in medical school, so that they are less successful, so that they can more easily find a man who is more successful than them.

    I find it sinister how many men here, think that by framing this as if it is in women”s interests, it can look like anything, but obvious misogyny. It comes across as cowardly too.

    I might as well propose deforming men’s faces, so that they can more easily find women who are hotter than them. It would be just so extremely kind to men! Something something specious biological bs argument.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Triteleia Laxa

    I said “lower the barriers to entry”. This includes expanding the number of places at medical school; which would allow a lot more doctors to be trained.

    Please do go on, and describe all the details of "expanding the number of places at medical school", including details such as clerkships.

    Or just reveal yourself as ignorant, arrogant and foolish...yet again.

    Your choice, troll.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

  311. anon[120] • Disclaimer says:
    @Triteleia Laxa
    @YetAnotherAnon


    a) there’s zero problem in attracting people to med or vet school, the two undergrad degrees with most competition for places.
     
    I said "lower the barriers to entry". This includes expanding the number of places at medical school; which would allow a lot more doctors to be trained.

    I don't think the cost is prohibitive, given the benefit.

    I am also not interested in arguments about how women must be discriminated against in medical school, so that they are less successful, so that they can more easily find a man who is more successful than them.

    I find it sinister how many men here, think that by framing this as if it is in women"s interests, it can look like anything, but obvious misogyny. It comes across as cowardly too.

    I might as well propose deforming men's faces, so that they can more easily find women who are hotter than them. It would be just so extremely kind to men! Something something specious biological bs argument.

    Replies: @anon

    I said “lower the barriers to entry”. This includes expanding the number of places at medical school; which would allow a lot more doctors to be trained.

    Please do go on, and describe all the details of “expanding the number of places at medical school”, including details such as clerkships.

    Or just reveal yourself as ignorant, arrogant and foolish…yet again.

    Your choice, troll.

    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
    @anon

    You don't believe in the possibility of ever increasing the number of people who train to be Doctors?

    That is an extraordinary belief. I'm going to need more evidence for it than your hurt feelings. I'm sorry medical school turned you down and I am also sorry that you need to blame women.

    Replies: @anon

  312. @anon
    @Triteleia Laxa

    I said “lower the barriers to entry”. This includes expanding the number of places at medical school; which would allow a lot more doctors to be trained.

    Please do go on, and describe all the details of "expanding the number of places at medical school", including details such as clerkships.

    Or just reveal yourself as ignorant, arrogant and foolish...yet again.

    Your choice, troll.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    You don’t believe in the possibility of ever increasing the number of people who train to be Doctors?

    That is an extraordinary belief. I’m going to need more evidence for it than your hurt feelings. I’m sorry medical school turned you down and I am also sorry that you need to blame women.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Triteleia Laxa

    You don’t believe in the possibility of ever increasing the number of people who train to be Doctors?

    Your reading comprehension is very poor. Your knowledge of the medical education process is zero.

    But thanks for confirming that you are merely another inept, boring troll.

  313. @Triteleia Laxa
    @anon

    You don't believe in the possibility of ever increasing the number of people who train to be Doctors?

    That is an extraordinary belief. I'm going to need more evidence for it than your hurt feelings. I'm sorry medical school turned you down and I am also sorry that you need to blame women.

    Replies: @anon

    You don’t believe in the possibility of ever increasing the number of people who train to be Doctors?

    Your reading comprehension is very poor. Your knowledge of the medical education process is zero.

    But thanks for confirming that you are merely another inept, boring troll.

    • LOL: Triteleia Laxa
  314. @Triteleia Laxa
    @photondancer

    That's like making Ahmadis representive of Islam.

    Replies: @photondancer

    No, it means I’m saying a feminist is a woman who cares about the rights of other women including and especially working class/third world women, not one who writes self serving rubbish about her hair.

  315. @Bardon Kaldian
    @HbutnotG

    Statistically, sure.

    But does anyone seriously think that Hegel, Henri Poincare (who couldn't tie his shoelaces), Heidegger or Proust were "mechanically capable"?

    C'mon ....

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @HbutnotG

    A mechanical instinct (which is what I’m referring to) is the ability, without someone repeatedly instructing you) to figure out how a device works. The accelerator in a car is a classic example.

    Chicks are not born with the concept of a rheostat installed in their cerebrum. Many men are. To test this, sit in the front passenger seat of a car driven by a man (over 60) and then with a woman (any woman). You’ll get carsick from the acceleration/deceleration you experience in the car driven by the woman (or a young guy who was taught how to drive by a woman). That’s because with women, its all the way down or all the way up. To them, the accelerator has two settings: on & off. Men realize that a device like that obviously is variable. They’re born that way. Even homos.

    That’s a mechanical instinct. Oh, a few dames do have one. My cousin Kathy knew what a spanner wrench was and how it works when she was 6. But that’s unusual.

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