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In Chicago on May 16, Shotspotter heard gunfire. The cops saw a man walking down the street carrying a handgun. Two officers walked behind him for several minutes calling to him to drop the gun.

Then another patrol car arrived in front of the walker. Then this happened:

You can see all the bodycam video here.

The shooter’s name is Bruce Lua, 45.

He may not be black, so he’s unlikely to become another BLM martyr.

 
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  1. Choosing to work for the Chicago PD is like volunteering for AIDS infections.

    • Replies: @John Up North
    @R.G. Camara

    CPD is currently having a real hard time getting people to sign up.

    , @JohnnyD
    @R.G. Camara

    Seriously. It's gotten so bad that the cops have to ask the criminals for permission before arresting them.

    , @Neoconned
    @R.G. Camara

    LOL yep.

    Was this a suicide by cop attempt?

    Replies: @Cortes

    , @Truth
    @R.G. Camara


    Choosing to work for the Chicago PD is like volunteering for AIDS infections.
     
    Chosing to work for the Chicago PD is like volunteering for the Covid-19 Vaccine.

    FIFY.

    Replies: @Richard B

  2. Chicago cops can not longer perform foot pursuits for anything less than a Class A Misdemeanor or engage in car chases. Sadly, some people will watch the video and say…’Good the cops were shot, too bad they weren’t killed.’ Maybe even mayor lightfoot, she is that demented. And, Second City Cop is writing articles at the Chicago Contrarian website. I miss those guys.

    • Replies: @Calvin Hobbes
    @Buffalo Joe


    And, Second City Cop is writing articles at the Chicago Contrarian website. I miss those guys.
     
    I miss those guys, too! Thanks for letting us know about SCC articles at Chicago Contrarian.
    , @Calvin Hobbes
    @Buffalo Joe

    Latest SCC article at Chicago Contrarian:

    https://www.chicagocontrarian.com/blog/on-chicago-second-city-cop-has-a-few-observations-and-opinions

    Here’s a passage from that article that illustrates what a piece of garbage Mayor Lightfoot (AKA Groot) is:

    Lightfoot's security blanket

    And finally, with manpower down 18 percent across the board, retirements through the roof, resignations at record levels and no one take the entrance exam, Groot decides to take fifty-six officers, two sergeants and a lieutenant (mostly from the already shorthanded Districts) and assign them to....her house. That's most of a Watch, now assigned to Groot. That means (once again) if you want a day off to relax, recover and maybe make some sort of family plans after three weeks of 12-hour days (and more to come), too darn bad.

    Replies: @Blodgie

    , @George Rockwell
    @Buffalo Joe

    Fuck cops. In the best of times they are about as useful as tits on a boar. Most of them are power tripping bullies that like to shoot dogs and terrorize innocent people. When they actually start enforcing the law against negros and antifa like they do white people, I might be inclined to respect them a little.

    Replies: @Richard B

  3. When I first read about this, I looked up this guy’s Instagram. His final video only has about 300 views, but it tells the whole story–schitzo Mexican engaged in some kind of Santeria-bible inspired war against evil.

    https://www.instagram.com/brucelua/?hl=en

    • Replies: @Stewart M Schwartz
    @JimDandy

    exactly

  4. Another example of cops being way too tolerant of bs behavior by these evolutionary dead-end turds. One warning: drop it or die – now. Of course this unfortunately can’t happen in today’s climate – but the day is coming.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @usNthem


    Another example of cops being way too tolerant of bs behavior by these evolutionary dead-end turds. One warning: drop it or die – now. Of course this unfortunately can’t happen in today’s climate – but the day is coming.
     
    Chicago needs a Robo-Cop who will say/enforce drop it or die. Bullets will glance off of Robo and he is too much machine to be sent to prison. 5 Robo-Cops could clean up Chicago in a few hot summer months. Make mincemeat out of their armed BIPOC hooligans.
  5. Insufficient use of force. The cops should never have been shot. They were so inhibited about shooting the perp, due to the War on White Policemen, that they kept giving him more opportunities.

    More and more White cops are being wounded or killed, because of their justifiable fear of being railroaded by racist prosecutors and media monsters.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Nicholas Stix

    I don’t disagree, but if you are constrained in use of force, then you have to practice proper defensive tactics to minimize risks. I don’t want to second guess the officers as I wasn’t there, but I don’t understand why that one officer who exited the white patrol car approached an armed suspect and closed the distance, instead of seeking cover behind the vehicle and ordering the suspect to drop his weapon. Yes, a handgun is a projectile weapon, but the vast majority of people don’t make hits beyond contact distance and that officer made it easier for the suspect to make hits on him.

    Replies: @Diversity Heretic, @AnotherDad

    , @Truth
    @Nicholas Stix


    They were so inhibited about shooting the perp, due to the War on White Policemen,
     
    Oh, I don't know, Old Sport. Was he shot because of the War on White Policemen, or was he shot because of the Leniency on White Suspects? Or maybe it was just that the policeman had no great desire to kill someone?

    I do think it is cute the way you guys relate everything in your lives to African-American influence.

    "Honey where are you going?"

    "To the beauty shop."

    "(she's only doing that because they put a black guy on the 10:00 news!...)"

    Replies: @AceDeuce, @Richard B, @Alden

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Nicholas Stix

    It kinda looked like that first cop was shot in his right hand and the bullet simultaneously hit the cop's magazine release, effectively disarming him (except for one in the chamber).

    That was a close call for him.

    Replies: @Gaspar DeLaFunk, @Twinkie, @Bizarro World Observer

  6. They’re working on Chicago Seinfeld.

    Watch this 10-second video to catch a sneak peek.

    • Replies: @gutta percha
    @JohnnyWalker123

    People always talk about the south side of Chicago being bad, but the west side is scarier, IMHO.

  7. Not another martyr? What if he’s Asian/Pacific Islander!? The NYC media will happily run with it even if Chicago news doesn’t

  8. Stuffs getting wild out there.

    Here is a video showing a guy who stole a police car and then after being pitted into the woods, evades a dozen cops and steals a C9 car with a couple of guns.

    Should the guy holding the door open have shot the guy before he got off in the second car? Hard decision, the road ahead of him was empty but he did gain access to guns.

    And a few months ago, guy shoots off on several NYPD at the bottom of a stairwell. Amazingly nobody, including the suspect was shot, though two police suffered bullet grazes.

    • Replies: @CCZ
    @Altai

    "Stuffs getting wild out there." And not just for the police. Melanin Overdose.

    "Shooting of child spurs large brawl, shooting at Children's Hospital."

    "The shooting of a 6-year-old Pittsburgh girl sparked a fight between two sides of her family at the hospital where she was being treated, spurring another shooting that left two men wounded and a third facing charges. The brawl in front of UPMC Children’s Hospital of Pittsburgh on Thursday night involved at least 30 people, Pittsburgh police said.

    https://twitter.com/PittsburghPG/status/1403503614388281346

  9. t says:

    For some odd reason the surname Lua is common in two countries Mexico and Vietnam. Given the demographics of Chicago he’s most likely Mexican. https://forebears.io/surnames/lua

    The area this happened is the middle of the black ghetto. It’s only a half mile away but Mexicans would not be in the area in question unless they were up to no good. He has a lengthy arrest history: http://publicsearch1.chicagopolice.org/Arrests?FirstName=bruce&LastName=lua&CbNumber=&ChargeId=&CPDArea=&District=&Beat=

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @t


    For some odd reason the surname Lua is common in two countries Mexico and Vietnam.
     
    Lua means "moon" in Portuguese and Galician. So this guy is as crazy as Keith?

    It's also known in equatorial Africa and is quite common in the exurbs of Port Moresby, PNG.

    https://forebears.io/surnames/lua

    When you get down to three letters, two of them vowels, you're bound to see some unrelated repetition around the world.
  10. Mexican religious nut, judging from his Instagram account.

  11. @Nicholas Stix
    Insufficient use of force. The cops should never have been shot. They were so inhibited about shooting the perp, due to the War on White Policemen, that they kept giving him more opportunities.

    More and more White cops are being wounded or killed, because of their justifiable fear of being railroaded by racist prosecutors and media monsters.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Truth, @Almost Missouri

    I don’t disagree, but if you are constrained in use of force, then you have to practice proper defensive tactics to minimize risks. I don’t want to second guess the officers as I wasn’t there, but I don’t understand why that one officer who exited the white patrol car approached an armed suspect and closed the distance, instead of seeking cover behind the vehicle and ordering the suspect to drop his weapon. Yes, a handgun is a projectile weapon, but the vast majority of people don’t make hits beyond contact distance and that officer made it easier for the suspect to make hits on him.

    • Agree: Not Raul
    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
    @Twinkie

    Your point is a good one. It's easy to second guess, but stopping a ways away and confronting the armed man with a carbine or shotgun with the engine block between you and him seems to me to have been a better course of action.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @AnotherDad
    @Twinkie

    As my dad used to say:

    "Never get out of perfectly good Ford, to get chummy with a Latin loon with a gun."

  12. Sue the gun manufacturers who let these weapons get into the hands of criminals.

    • Disagree: tyrone
    • Replies: @anon
    @Jonathan Mason

    Sue the morons who demand "sue the gun manufaturers".

    Also sue the morons who allow other morons to demand "sue the gun manufacturers".

    Then sue the trolls.

    , @Whiskey
    @Jonathan Mason

    A dumb response by someone who knows nothing of weapons but an infantile fear of them.

    Manufacturers do not sell to individuals in the US. They sell to Federally and State Licensed gun dealers. who then sell to individuals after background checks. Federal checks are mandatory, take a few minutes to an hour. State checks on top of that can take anywhere from a few minutes to 10 days in California. Ownership of guns is highly regulated in the US, as is the industry.

    Criminals get their guns from:
    A. Stolen guns often from police and feds. Example, the gun used to kill the nice White lady in San Francisco by the illegal alien was stolen from an FBI agent's car.
    B. Illegal gun imports over the border with drugs and trafficked human beings. Open borders = guns for criminals.
    C. Straw purchases by friends/family -- the smallest contingent but it does happen.

    None of this has anything to do with manufacturers selling to individuals again that comment was so factually wrong its astonishing in its stupidity. There is no zero none nada ZILCH possibility of doing anything about the border which is now pretty much 100% controlled by various cartels. So any criminal who wants one can get one from the cartels. Or a nine year old girl. Or the illegal alien slave labor force used to create the massive Antelope Valley Marijuana grow houses.

    So the real issues is, are ordinary people helpless and disarmed and easy prey for criminals like in the UK, as their police side with the criminals, or can they fight back. Pretty much everyone in America who could went out and bought a gun in the last few years so there's your answer.

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @Alden

    , @J.Ross
    @Jonathan Mason

    Aaaand the lawsuit is thrown out as without grounds (and legally incoherent).

    , @Alfa158
    @Jonathan Mason

    Dude, that was a pretty dark bit of humor about an incident in which three people were wounded. You wouldn’t be laughing this way if you were one of the people bleeding.

    , @donut
    @Jonathan Mason

    Jackass .

    , @Alden
    @Jonathan Mason

    Chicago criminals have more access to stolen guns than most criminals. For more than a century Chicago was designed to be the center of the railroad system of the entire country. Still is. Railroad freight cars arrive in Chicago and are assembled into trains going all over the country.

    The freight cars spend a day or two in the miles and miles of of freight yards in Chicago before being attached to a new train and leaving.
    Criminals have been looting the freight cars since the 1850s. Some of the freight cars carry guns.

    Americans know that criminals cannot buy guns from licensed gun dealers. They buy their guns from other criminals. They buy guns stolen from gun shops, warehouses the Chicago freight yards and from cars homes businesses during burglaries.

    Chicago criminals use stolen guns. Why buy a gun when you can steal it or buy it half price from another thief?

    Replies: @Sick 'n Tired, @Hibernian

    , @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Jonathan Mason

    Go back to England, limey.

  13. Off topic…but seems to be in the WHITE GENOCIDE Realm…

    Steve

    Did hear what a Colonel at Fort Carson told his White Troops in the I-8 Battalion? Colonel Rhodes…and he is white…This is how you move up in the US Military….

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @War for Blair Mountain

    There's a thing called a link. People who post comments like yours should be permanently banned.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

  14. anon[197] • Disclaimer says:

    “Show me your hands” is not always the best challenge. The vid makes that clear. Because “here’s a hand now!” is one possible response. There are other challenges, to be sure. “Get on the ground, now!” is one, “hands over your head” is another. This guy was determined to fight someone, though.

    Walking towards the suspect is probably something that seemed reasonable at the time, but inside of the 7 yards / 7 meters distance a violent criminal actor doesn’t have to be a good shot, just a bit lucky.

    To the marksman, distance is a friend.

  15. @Jonathan Mason
    Sue the gun manufacturers who let these weapons get into the hands of criminals.

    Replies: @anon, @Whiskey, @J.Ross, @Alfa158, @donut, @Alden, @The Anti-Gnostic

    Sue the morons who demand “sue the gun manufaturers”.

    Also sue the morons who allow other morons to demand “sue the gun manufacturers”.

    Then sue the trolls.

  16. WTF? This was tactically nuts.

    Does the Chicago PD have patrol rifles? Given the outdoor ‘man-with-gun’ nature of this encounter and the range involved, an AR style carbine with a low-mag optic should have been part of the mix.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @mikeInThe716


    WTF? This was tactically nuts.
     
    Maybe just hold back until a patrol vehicle can be used for a meet ’n’ greet:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKYIvZim5tY&t=86s
    , @John Johnson
    @mikeInThe716

    Does the Chicago PD have patrol rifles? Given the outdoor ‘man-with-gun’ nature of this encounter and the range involved, an AR style carbine with a low-mag optic should have been part of the mix.

    In the big cities they only seem to pull them when there is an active shooter.

    Given the number of shootings it would make sense to have a designated heavy (AR, ceramic armor) but Democrat cities wouldn't like the image.

  17. Since the advent of AC opening up the South, no one really wants to live in Chicago anymore. It’s just there, because … it was there. (Since railroads took over from steamships.)

    (Note: i lived there through the winter of ’78-79. Couldn’t move my car–parked on a sidestreet–for about three weeks. I can think of about 100 other cites, West, South, NE, Midwest that i’d rather live in/would advise for a young person starting out.)

    Just wall the joint off as a penal colony.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @AnotherDad

    Pretty sure they had shovels back then lol

    , @Danindc
    @AnotherDad

    The North side is one of the most fun places to live in America. I think it’s still very safe as well.

    Replies: @John Up North, @Hibernian

  18. Sure, let’s sure the firearm manufacturers out of business due to criminally inclined negros who almost universally obtain their weapons illegally. Great idea.

  19. (i) Hats off to the policemen for their courage. Not perhaps their wisdom, but certainly their courage.

    (ii) Once the villain had been shot he shouted like a little girl.

  20. @Jonathan Mason
    Sue the gun manufacturers who let these weapons get into the hands of criminals.

    Replies: @anon, @Whiskey, @J.Ross, @Alfa158, @donut, @Alden, @The Anti-Gnostic

    A dumb response by someone who knows nothing of weapons but an infantile fear of them.

    Manufacturers do not sell to individuals in the US. They sell to Federally and State Licensed gun dealers. who then sell to individuals after background checks. Federal checks are mandatory, take a few minutes to an hour. State checks on top of that can take anywhere from a few minutes to 10 days in California. Ownership of guns is highly regulated in the US, as is the industry.

    Criminals get their guns from:
    A. Stolen guns often from police and feds. Example, the gun used to kill the nice White lady in San Francisco by the illegal alien was stolen from an FBI agent’s car.
    B. Illegal gun imports over the border with drugs and trafficked human beings. Open borders = guns for criminals.
    C. Straw purchases by friends/family — the smallest contingent but it does happen.

    None of this has anything to do with manufacturers selling to individuals again that comment was so factually wrong its astonishing in its stupidity. There is no zero none nada ZILCH possibility of doing anything about the border which is now pretty much 100% controlled by various cartels. So any criminal who wants one can get one from the cartels. Or a nine year old girl. Or the illegal alien slave labor force used to create the massive Antelope Valley Marijuana grow houses.

    So the real issues is, are ordinary people helpless and disarmed and easy prey for criminals like in the UK, as their police side with the criminals, or can they fight back. Pretty much everyone in America who could went out and bought a gun in the last few years so there’s your answer.

    • Agree: JMcG, The Anti-Gnostic
    • Thanks: J.Ross
    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @Whiskey


    Federal checks are mandatory, take a few minutes to an hour.
     
    I've never had one take less than two days.

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @Bill Jones

    , @Alden
    @Whiskey

    Your greatest post ever. Thank you.,

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  21. Bring back the 12-ga shotgun, and add red dot sights.

    Shot Spotter seems to be resulting in more CPD cops being killed (run over by trains) and sustaining gun shot wounds.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Joe Stalin

    Who is that fruit?

    Paul Harrell demonstrates 12 ga buckshot and slugs versus 3A body armor:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qSVOZfp3R4

    , @donut
    @Joe Stalin

    The best advice I've gotten from any of these home defense gun videos guys was Paul Harrell : get a fire extinguisher . LOL

    , @John Johnson
    @Joe Stalin

    Bring back the 12-ga shotgun, and add red dot sights.

    Too much liability with the shotgun.

    With an AR they can drop a guy easily at 100 yards. With a shotgun the range is 60 yards and the usual suspects would flip out over the results of a close range encounter.

    The city would get sued over taking off the arm of poor Shawntavius.

    , @Not Raul
    @Joe Stalin


    Criminals get their guns from:
    A. Stolen guns often from police and feds. Example, the gun used to kill the nice White lady in San Francisco by the illegal alien was stolen from an FBI agent’s car.
    B. Illegal gun imports over the border with drugs and trafficked human beings. Open borders = guns for criminals.
    C. Straw purchases by friends/family — the smallest contingent but it does happen.
     
    A. If a cop allows his gun to be stolen, there should be serious consequences.

    B. You have it backwards. Guns are trafficked over the border from the USA to Mexico.

    https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/arming-mexican-cartels-inside-story-of-a-texas-gun-smuggling-ring-866836/

    C. Actually, it happens a lot more often than you might think. If there is a straw purchase from a friend/relative, and the gun is later identified as being used in a crime, the friend/relative who sold the gun will claim that it was stolen.

  22. @AnotherDad
    Since the advent of AC opening up the South, no one really wants to live in Chicago anymore. It's just there, because ... it was there. (Since railroads took over from steamships.)

    (Note: i lived there through the winter of '78-79. Couldn't move my car--parked on a sidestreet--for about three weeks. I can think of about 100 other cites, West, South, NE, Midwest that i'd rather live in/would advise for a young person starting out.)

    Just wall the joint off as a penal colony.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Danindc

    Pretty sure they had shovels back then lol

  23. @Jonathan Mason
    Sue the gun manufacturers who let these weapons get into the hands of criminals.

    Replies: @anon, @Whiskey, @J.Ross, @Alfa158, @donut, @Alden, @The Anti-Gnostic

    Aaaand the lawsuit is thrown out as without grounds (and legally incoherent).

  24. @Nicholas Stix
    Insufficient use of force. The cops should never have been shot. They were so inhibited about shooting the perp, due to the War on White Policemen, that they kept giving him more opportunities.

    More and more White cops are being wounded or killed, because of their justifiable fear of being railroaded by racist prosecutors and media monsters.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Truth, @Almost Missouri

    They were so inhibited about shooting the perp, due to the War on White Policemen,

    Oh, I don’t know, Old Sport. Was he shot because of the War on White Policemen, or was he shot because of the Leniency on White Suspects? Or maybe it was just that the policeman had no great desire to kill someone?

    I do think it is cute the way you guys relate everything in your lives to African-American influence.

    “Honey where are you going?”

    “To the beauty shop.”

    “(she’s only doing that because they put a black guy on the 10:00 news!…)”

    • Troll: Richard B, TWS, magila
    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    @Truth

    Where was the "White Suspect" in this video?

    , @Richard B
    @Truth


    Oh, I don’t know, Old Sport. Was he shot because of the War on White Policemen, or was he shot because of the Leniency on White Suspects?
     
    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
    , @Alden
    @Truth

    There are no White suspects in Chicago and most American cities. The blacks drove the Whites out with murder rape looting pillaging and terrorism decades ago.

    Replies: @Truth

  25. “how quickly an armed confrontation can go south”

    It’s impressive to me that police officers have the great psychomotor adroitness they do, given that they go to the practice range only 2 or 3 times a year. Maybe they have laser trainers and targets for non-range practice; I would certainly do that if I had to be a police officer in Chicago.

    As “drop it, man” was clearly not the magic phrase, I find myself wondering, what IS the magic phrase? For Clint Eastwood, it would be “Do you feel lucky, punk? Make my day.” But what would a social worker recommend?

    • Replies: @Whereismyhandle
    @SafeNow

    Last time I was in a gun store run by some rough looking vets a cop walked in to ask about a gun. They chatted for a couple minutes and as soon as the cop left the store owner said, "fucking morons. we have to teach cops everything about guns and they can't shoot for shit."

  26. >”Armed suspect. Permission to initiate foot pursuit”

    >>”Is the suspect black?”

    >”No.”

    >>”Permission granted. Weapons free.”

  27. @Truth
    @Nicholas Stix


    They were so inhibited about shooting the perp, due to the War on White Policemen,
     
    Oh, I don't know, Old Sport. Was he shot because of the War on White Policemen, or was he shot because of the Leniency on White Suspects? Or maybe it was just that the policeman had no great desire to kill someone?

    I do think it is cute the way you guys relate everything in your lives to African-American influence.

    "Honey where are you going?"

    "To the beauty shop."

    "(she's only doing that because they put a black guy on the 10:00 news!...)"

    Replies: @AceDeuce, @Richard B, @Alden

    Where was the “White Suspect” in this video?

  28. @Jonathan Mason
    Sue the gun manufacturers who let these weapons get into the hands of criminals.

    Replies: @anon, @Whiskey, @J.Ross, @Alfa158, @donut, @Alden, @The Anti-Gnostic

    Dude, that was a pretty dark bit of humor about an incident in which three people were wounded. You wouldn’t be laughing this way if you were one of the people bleeding.

  29. @Whiskey
    @Jonathan Mason

    A dumb response by someone who knows nothing of weapons but an infantile fear of them.

    Manufacturers do not sell to individuals in the US. They sell to Federally and State Licensed gun dealers. who then sell to individuals after background checks. Federal checks are mandatory, take a few minutes to an hour. State checks on top of that can take anywhere from a few minutes to 10 days in California. Ownership of guns is highly regulated in the US, as is the industry.

    Criminals get their guns from:
    A. Stolen guns often from police and feds. Example, the gun used to kill the nice White lady in San Francisco by the illegal alien was stolen from an FBI agent's car.
    B. Illegal gun imports over the border with drugs and trafficked human beings. Open borders = guns for criminals.
    C. Straw purchases by friends/family -- the smallest contingent but it does happen.

    None of this has anything to do with manufacturers selling to individuals again that comment was so factually wrong its astonishing in its stupidity. There is no zero none nada ZILCH possibility of doing anything about the border which is now pretty much 100% controlled by various cartels. So any criminal who wants one can get one from the cartels. Or a nine year old girl. Or the illegal alien slave labor force used to create the massive Antelope Valley Marijuana grow houses.

    So the real issues is, are ordinary people helpless and disarmed and easy prey for criminals like in the UK, as their police side with the criminals, or can they fight back. Pretty much everyone in America who could went out and bought a gun in the last few years so there's your answer.

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @Alden

    Federal checks are mandatory, take a few minutes to an hour.

    I’ve never had one take less than two days.

    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
    @Bill Jones

    You are being slow-walked by whatever state you live in. They're processed in minutes in my state.

    , @Bill Jones
    @Bill Jones

    Both PA and MD

  30. @Jonathan Mason
    Sue the gun manufacturers who let these weapons get into the hands of criminals.

    Replies: @anon, @Whiskey, @J.Ross, @Alfa158, @donut, @Alden, @The Anti-Gnostic

    Jackass .

    • Agree: gandydancer
  31. Tim McVeigh got a Bronze Star for shooting the head and shoulders off an Iraqi soldier at 2000 yards with the 25 mm gun on his Bradley Fighting Vehicle in 1991. Isn’t it way past time we give our cops the same kind of long range optics and one shot one kill weaponry at 30o meters in our our urban combat zones. This guy should not have been taken alive.

    • Replies: @Pericles
    @UNIT472

    Perhaps such a sniper could shoot the gun out of the suspect's hand, like Joe Biden.

    , @nokangaroos
    @UNIT472

    See, in the US the melanin-enhanced collaterals/extended families can and will sue :P

    Besides being bad policy you really don´t need the heavy stuff - iirc they used Ma Deuces during the Watts Riots, but that´s it. Sometimes a rifle would be very desirable but overpenetration is always a concern - there are ways around that but imagine the outcry when you disembowel a miscreant with a Glaser Blacktip!

    , @J.Ross
    @UNIT472

    Rifles in Chicago I don't know, but pistol caliber carbines should increase accuracy without tremendously increasing range and penetration. In fact it ought to be possible to allow a cop to quickly biggie-size his current sidearm (with which he is most familiar) with a rapidly-attachable stock (although not a "universal" one, it wouldn't be too hard to customize). It might be possible to extend the barrel and have the pistol "sit" in a stock and barrel assembly. A cop could carry the pistol on his hip and have the attachable stock assembly near his seat in the patrol car.

    Replies: @Diversity Heretic

  32. Anon[209] • Disclaimer says:

    He’s not black, but what he has in common with black guys is that he doesn’t feel like getting arrested today. If you don’t consent to an arrest, the police cannot talk to you or arrest you, right? Try again tomorrow. Maybe he’ll be in more of an arresty mood then.

    • LOL: Hibernian
  33. @mikeInThe716
    WTF? This was tactically nuts.

    Does the Chicago PD have patrol rifles? Given the outdoor 'man-with-gun' nature of this encounter and the range involved, an AR style carbine with a low-mag optic should have been part of the mix.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @John Johnson

    WTF? This was tactically nuts.

    Maybe just hold back until a patrol vehicle can be used for a meet ’n’ greet:

  34. @SafeNow
    “how quickly an armed confrontation can go south”

    It’s impressive to me that police officers have the great psychomotor adroitness they do, given that they go to the practice range only 2 or 3 times a year. Maybe they have laser trainers and targets for non-range practice; I would certainly do that if I had to be a police officer in Chicago.

    As “drop it, man” was clearly not the magic phrase, I find myself wondering, what IS the magic phrase? For Clint Eastwood, it would be “Do you feel lucky, punk? Make my day.” But what would a social worker recommend?

    Replies: @Whereismyhandle

    Last time I was in a gun store run by some rough looking vets a cop walked in to ask about a gun. They chatted for a couple minutes and as soon as the cop left the store owner said, “fucking morons. we have to teach cops everything about guns and they can’t shoot for shit.”

  35. @usNthem
    Another example of cops being way too tolerant of bs behavior by these evolutionary dead-end turds. One warning: drop it or die - now. Of course this unfortunately can’t happen in today’s climate - but the day is coming.

    Replies: @Clyde

    Another example of cops being way too tolerant of bs behavior by these evolutionary dead-end turds. One warning: drop it or die – now. Of course this unfortunately can’t happen in today’s climate – but the day is coming.

    Chicago needs a Robo-Cop who will say/enforce drop it or die. Bullets will glance off of Robo and he is too much machine to be sent to prison. 5 Robo-Cops could clean up Chicago in a few hot summer months. Make mincemeat out of their armed BIPOC hooligans.

  36. @Buffalo Joe
    Chicago cops can not longer perform foot pursuits for anything less than a Class A Misdemeanor or engage in car chases. Sadly, some people will watch the video and say...'Good the cops were shot, too bad they weren't killed.' Maybe even mayor lightfoot, she is that demented. And, Second City Cop is writing articles at the Chicago Contrarian website. I miss those guys.

    Replies: @Calvin Hobbes, @Calvin Hobbes, @George Rockwell

    And, Second City Cop is writing articles at the Chicago Contrarian website. I miss those guys.

    I miss those guys, too! Thanks for letting us know about SCC articles at Chicago Contrarian.

  37. @War for Blair Mountain
    Off topic...but seems to be in the WHITE GENOCIDE Realm...

    Steve

    Did hear what a Colonel at Fort Carson told his White Troops in the I-8 Battalion? Colonel Rhodes...and he is white...This is how you move up in the US Military....

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    There’s a thing called a link. People who post comments like yours should be permanently banned.

    • Agree: gandydancer
    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @Paperback Writer

    Well yeah, a link would have been nice, but no need to ban the guy:

    https://wearesc.com/forum/index.php?threads/us-army-battalion-commander-at-fort-carson-‘white-people-are-part-of-the-problem.80057/

  38. @Buffalo Joe
    Chicago cops can not longer perform foot pursuits for anything less than a Class A Misdemeanor or engage in car chases. Sadly, some people will watch the video and say...'Good the cops were shot, too bad they weren't killed.' Maybe even mayor lightfoot, she is that demented. And, Second City Cop is writing articles at the Chicago Contrarian website. I miss those guys.

    Replies: @Calvin Hobbes, @Calvin Hobbes, @George Rockwell

    Latest SCC article at Chicago Contrarian:

    https://www.chicagocontrarian.com/blog/on-chicago-second-city-cop-has-a-few-observations-and-opinions

    Here’s a passage from that article that illustrates what a piece of garbage Mayor Lightfoot (AKA Groot) is:

    Lightfoot’s security blanket

    And finally, with manpower down 18 percent across the board, retirements through the roof, resignations at record levels and no one take the entrance exam, Groot decides to take fifty-six officers, two sergeants and a lieutenant (mostly from the already shorthanded Districts) and assign them to….her house. That’s most of a Watch, now assigned to Groot. That means (once again) if you want a day off to relax, recover and maybe make some sort of family plans after three weeks of 12-hour days (and more to come), too darn bad.

    • Agree: Gaspar DeLaFunk
    • Replies: @Blodgie
    @Calvin Hobbes

    Cops getting massive overtime checks—yeah, I’m sure they hate that!

    Overtime (which most of us schmucks who don’t have gubmint jobs don’t get) is how these guys can make $200k and have their bass boats and cabins in WI.

    Stop bootlicking for these union grafters!

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Bartleby the Scrivner

  39. @R.G. Camara
    Choosing to work for the Chicago PD is like volunteering for AIDS infections.

    Replies: @John Up North, @JohnnyD, @Neoconned, @Truth

    CPD is currently having a real hard time getting people to sign up.

  40. Slightly off topic but I watched an amusing Court Cam last night in which a “Sovereign Citizen” in Alaska kept mouthing off to deputies who wouldn’t let him bring a phone cam into the courtroom. He had an answer for everything… until he got tased.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @Dan Smith

    You are a creepy thug if you think that’s funny. And why can he not bring a phone camera in?

  41. Steve’s theory of cops choosing to spend time at their neighbor in Starbucks simply not turning out to be true, these brave hearts are choosing to go out every day in this crazy system to do their job with 100% professionalism.

  42. @Jonathan Mason
    Sue the gun manufacturers who let these weapons get into the hands of criminals.

    Replies: @anon, @Whiskey, @J.Ross, @Alfa158, @donut, @Alden, @The Anti-Gnostic

    Chicago criminals have more access to stolen guns than most criminals. For more than a century Chicago was designed to be the center of the railroad system of the entire country. Still is. Railroad freight cars arrive in Chicago and are assembled into trains going all over the country.

    The freight cars spend a day or two in the miles and miles of of freight yards in Chicago before being attached to a new train and leaving.
    Criminals have been looting the freight cars since the 1850s. Some of the freight cars carry guns.

    Americans know that criminals cannot buy guns from licensed gun dealers. They buy their guns from other criminals. They buy guns stolen from gun shops, warehouses the Chicago freight yards and from cars homes businesses during burglaries.

    Chicago criminals use stolen guns. Why buy a gun when you can steal it or buy it half price from another thief?

    • Replies: @Sick 'n Tired
    @Alden

    Here's another way they are getting guns. Ripping the gates off of the store, or ramming a stolen truck thru the front of the store and grabbing what they can.

    https://youtu.be/UvlDPj_eDtc

    Replies: @BenKenobi

    , @Hibernian
    @Alden

    Bypass lines around the city, built in the late 19th century, but little used in the 2nd half of the 20th, lately have been used more. Still a lot of rail traffic, overwhelmingly container, tank car, or grain or coal hopper car, moves very slowly through the city, sometimes parked on embankments, and often parked in intermodal (container) yards. There have been thefts of guns from the containers reported recently.

    Replies: @Alden

  43. @Whiskey
    @Jonathan Mason

    A dumb response by someone who knows nothing of weapons but an infantile fear of them.

    Manufacturers do not sell to individuals in the US. They sell to Federally and State Licensed gun dealers. who then sell to individuals after background checks. Federal checks are mandatory, take a few minutes to an hour. State checks on top of that can take anywhere from a few minutes to 10 days in California. Ownership of guns is highly regulated in the US, as is the industry.

    Criminals get their guns from:
    A. Stolen guns often from police and feds. Example, the gun used to kill the nice White lady in San Francisco by the illegal alien was stolen from an FBI agent's car.
    B. Illegal gun imports over the border with drugs and trafficked human beings. Open borders = guns for criminals.
    C. Straw purchases by friends/family -- the smallest contingent but it does happen.

    None of this has anything to do with manufacturers selling to individuals again that comment was so factually wrong its astonishing in its stupidity. There is no zero none nada ZILCH possibility of doing anything about the border which is now pretty much 100% controlled by various cartels. So any criminal who wants one can get one from the cartels. Or a nine year old girl. Or the illegal alien slave labor force used to create the massive Antelope Valley Marijuana grow houses.

    So the real issues is, are ordinary people helpless and disarmed and easy prey for criminals like in the UK, as their police side with the criminals, or can they fight back. Pretty much everyone in America who could went out and bought a gun in the last few years so there's your answer.

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @Alden

    Your greatest post ever. Thank you.,

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Alden


    Your greatest post ever. Thank you.,

     

    Amazing-- nothing in it about race or sex, let alone about race and sex.
  44. @Nicholas Stix
    Insufficient use of force. The cops should never have been shot. They were so inhibited about shooting the perp, due to the War on White Policemen, that they kept giving him more opportunities.

    More and more White cops are being wounded or killed, because of their justifiable fear of being railroaded by racist prosecutors and media monsters.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Truth, @Almost Missouri

    It kinda looked like that first cop was shot in his right hand and the bullet simultaneously hit the cop’s magazine release, effectively disarming him (except for one in the chamber).

    That was a close call for him.

    • Replies: @Gaspar DeLaFunk
    @Almost Missouri

    Ironically,shooting someone in his hand is what the BLM types want cops to do.

    , @Twinkie
    @Almost Missouri

    I saw that magazine fly off too. I thought it came from the officer’s non-dominant hand at first - “That’s odd…”


    That was a close call for him.
     
    Yup.
    , @Bizarro World Observer
    @Almost Missouri

    I think the "magazine" was actually a radio. It's got an antenna, if you look at it.

    Replies: @Twinkie

  45. @R.G. Camara
    Choosing to work for the Chicago PD is like volunteering for AIDS infections.

    Replies: @John Up North, @JohnnyD, @Neoconned, @Truth

    Seriously. It’s gotten so bad that the cops have to ask the criminals for permission before arresting them.

  46. Since I first saw this I wondered why they didn’t have a car come around and close on this clown from the other direction.

    Anyway,Chicago is very sick. I don’t want to say it’s dying,there’s a lot of ruin in a great city,but the cancer of blacks and browns is spreading fast.
    The best areas are beset by carjackers and gangstas.

    But the negro Rhodes Scholars are intent on renaming LSD after their Jean DuSable. That will help.

    • Replies: @gandydancer
    @Gaspar DeLaFunk


    Since I first saw this I wondered why they didn’t have a car come around and close on this clown from the other direction.
     
    Then you should watch it again, because the two cops who were shot were precsely the two who closed on him in a car from the other direction.
  47. Unless the guy has some problems with hearing, it wouldn’t be difficult to believe that he was luring the cops into a situation in which shots would be fired. Suicide by cop?

  48. There are some pretty sweet looking apartments with balconies in this cut.

    Anyone know the monthly on one of those?

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @The Wild Geese Howard


    Anyone know the monthly on one of those?
     
    A bit cheaper than a week ago.
  49. These are professionals, “Sir put it down, put that gun down, where are you going with that?”
    Over 2 minutes is way too long to be in persuit of an unstable and labile perpetrator and possible criminal criminal with a firearm.
    Puts everyone in great peril civilians and Patrol Officers, a like. What happened the 2 officers shot were very lucky. The next time maybe not so. The perp appears disturbed in a way a person suffering from paranoid schizoprenia do. He needs treament for his arm wound and stabilization under medication in a psych ER then to a prison center for futhur long term medication. He should never be allowed upon the streets in that condition again.
    The CPD are very brave men and woman trying their best to protect the wards under the most trying and difficult situations. The worst thing about Chicago are that pistols are allover the place and probably the majority are not registered or liscensed.
    What a milleux to live in, I know becaused I had the pleasure of living in South Chicago, Jackson Park then West Central for 7 years. Without the Illegal drug trade it could be an even better place to be.

    • Replies: @magila
    @Frank McCarthy


    The worst thing about Chicago are that pistols are allover the place and probably the majority are not registered or liscensed.
     
    So the pistols are wandering Chicago by themselves, causing "shots to ring out" and "violence to erupt"?

    The worst thing about Chicago are the feral humans with low IQ's and no impulse control. Take away their stolen guns and they'd use fists, feet, clubs, shovels, chains, and machetes. Just like their cousins in Rwanda.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

  50. @t
    For some odd reason the surname Lua is common in two countries Mexico and Vietnam. Given the demographics of Chicago he's most likely Mexican. https://forebears.io/surnames/lua


    The area this happened is the middle of the black ghetto. It's only a half mile away but Mexicans would not be in the area in question unless they were up to no good. He has a lengthy arrest history: http://publicsearch1.chicagopolice.org/Arrests?FirstName=bruce&LastName=lua&CbNumber=&ChargeId=&CPDArea=&District=&Beat=

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    For some odd reason the surname Lua is common in two countries Mexico and Vietnam.

    Lua means “moon” in Portuguese and Galician. So this guy is as crazy as Keith?

    It’s also known in equatorial Africa and is quite common in the exurbs of Port Moresby, PNG.

    https://forebears.io/surnames/lua

    When you get down to three letters, two of them vowels, you’re bound to see some unrelated repetition around the world.

  51. @Joe Stalin
    Bring back the 12-ga shotgun, and add red dot sights.

    Shot Spotter seems to be resulting in more CPD cops being killed (run over by trains) and sustaining gun shot wounds.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlHsVQDbyx4

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @donut, @John Johnson, @Not Raul

    Who is that fruit?

    Paul Harrell demonstrates 12 ga buckshot and slugs versus 3A body armor:

  52. I’m sure a few good social workers could have handled that better.

    • Replies: @flyingtiger
    @Ralph L

    LOL!

  53. @Almost Missouri
    @Nicholas Stix

    It kinda looked like that first cop was shot in his right hand and the bullet simultaneously hit the cop's magazine release, effectively disarming him (except for one in the chamber).

    That was a close call for him.

    Replies: @Gaspar DeLaFunk, @Twinkie, @Bizarro World Observer

    Ironically,shooting someone in his hand is what the BLM types want cops to do.

    • LOL: J.Ross
  54. @Almost Missouri
    @Nicholas Stix

    It kinda looked like that first cop was shot in his right hand and the bullet simultaneously hit the cop's magazine release, effectively disarming him (except for one in the chamber).

    That was a close call for him.

    Replies: @Gaspar DeLaFunk, @Twinkie, @Bizarro World Observer

    I saw that magazine fly off too. I thought it came from the officer’s non-dominant hand at first – “That’s odd…”

    That was a close call for him.

    Yup.

  55. @Joe Stalin
    Bring back the 12-ga shotgun, and add red dot sights.

    Shot Spotter seems to be resulting in more CPD cops being killed (run over by trains) and sustaining gun shot wounds.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlHsVQDbyx4

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @donut, @John Johnson, @Not Raul

    The best advice I’ve gotten from any of these home defense gun videos guys was Paul Harrell : get a fire extinguisher . LOL

  56. @JimDandy
    When I first read about this, I looked up this guy's Instagram. His final video only has about 300 views, but it tells the whole story--schitzo Mexican engaged in some kind of Santeria-bible inspired war against evil.

    https://www.instagram.com/brucelua/?hl=en

    Replies: @Stewart M Schwartz

    exactly

  57. @Truth
    @Nicholas Stix


    They were so inhibited about shooting the perp, due to the War on White Policemen,
     
    Oh, I don't know, Old Sport. Was he shot because of the War on White Policemen, or was he shot because of the Leniency on White Suspects? Or maybe it was just that the policeman had no great desire to kill someone?

    I do think it is cute the way you guys relate everything in your lives to African-American influence.

    "Honey where are you going?"

    "To the beauty shop."

    "(she's only doing that because they put a black guy on the 10:00 news!...)"

    Replies: @AceDeuce, @Richard B, @Alden

    Oh, I don’t know, Old Sport. Was he shot because of the War on White Policemen, or was he shot because of the Leniency on White Suspects?

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  58. So was the gunman. All survived.

    These cops are too much. I would have vented the gunman for another half-magazine or so.

    Oh he’s till moving.

    Put another magazine in to make sure.

    All survived.

    But in what state?

  59. @R.G. Camara
    Choosing to work for the Chicago PD is like volunteering for AIDS infections.

    Replies: @John Up North, @JohnnyD, @Neoconned, @Truth

    LOL yep.

    Was this a suicide by cop attempt?

    • Replies: @Cortes
    @Neoconned

    Suicide by cop attempt seems very possible to me. Why the lack of response to the police officers shouts? A hearing defect from deafness? Wearing headphones? Or taking the cops well away from areas covered by security cameras and look for the chance to exchange gunfire?

  60. @UNIT472
    Tim McVeigh got a Bronze Star for shooting the head and shoulders off an Iraqi soldier at 2000 yards with the 25 mm gun on his Bradley Fighting Vehicle in 1991. Isn't it way past time we give our cops the same kind of long range optics and one shot one kill weaponry at 30o meters in our our urban combat zones. This guy should not have been taken alive.

    Replies: @Pericles, @nokangaroos, @J.Ross

    Perhaps such a sniper could shoot the gun out of the suspect’s hand, like Joe Biden.

  61. @Twinkie
    @Nicholas Stix

    I don’t disagree, but if you are constrained in use of force, then you have to practice proper defensive tactics to minimize risks. I don’t want to second guess the officers as I wasn’t there, but I don’t understand why that one officer who exited the white patrol car approached an armed suspect and closed the distance, instead of seeking cover behind the vehicle and ordering the suspect to drop his weapon. Yes, a handgun is a projectile weapon, but the vast majority of people don’t make hits beyond contact distance and that officer made it easier for the suspect to make hits on him.

    Replies: @Diversity Heretic, @AnotherDad

    Your point is a good one. It’s easy to second guess, but stopping a ways away and confronting the armed man with a carbine or shotgun with the engine block between you and him seems to me to have been a better course of action.

    • Agree: Not Raul
    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Diversity Heretic

    Your point is a good one. It’s easy to second guess, but stopping a ways away and confronting the armed man with a carbine or shotgun with the engine block between you and him seems to me to have been a better course of action.

    It looks like they were hesitating and not falling back on their training. The officer that confronts him walks needlessly close and doesn't have his gun leveled on him.

    They are probably all afraid of losing their jobs and ending up on CNN.

    This was a disaster.

  62. anonymous[139] • Disclaimer says:

    The shooter keeps screaming. In contrast the police officer is composed and is taking things stoically. That’s part of the difference between this street trash and real people.

  63. I used to like visiting the Windy City, but isn’t it time to wall off large portions of it?

    • Replies: @Boy the way Glenn Miller played
    @The Alarmist


    I used to like visiting the Windy City, but isn’t it time to wall off large portions of it?
     
    How about a Caterpillar D 11 field day?
  64. @UNIT472
    Tim McVeigh got a Bronze Star for shooting the head and shoulders off an Iraqi soldier at 2000 yards with the 25 mm gun on his Bradley Fighting Vehicle in 1991. Isn't it way past time we give our cops the same kind of long range optics and one shot one kill weaponry at 30o meters in our our urban combat zones. This guy should not have been taken alive.

    Replies: @Pericles, @nokangaroos, @J.Ross

    See, in the US the melanin-enhanced collaterals/extended families can and will sue 😛

    Besides being bad policy you really don´t need the heavy stuff – iirc they used Ma Deuces during the Watts Riots, but that´s it. Sometimes a rifle would be very desirable but overpenetration is always a concern – there are ways around that but imagine the outcry when you disembowel a miscreant with a Glaser Blacktip!

  65. @AnotherDad
    Since the advent of AC opening up the South, no one really wants to live in Chicago anymore. It's just there, because ... it was there. (Since railroads took over from steamships.)

    (Note: i lived there through the winter of '78-79. Couldn't move my car--parked on a sidestreet--for about three weeks. I can think of about 100 other cites, West, South, NE, Midwest that i'd rather live in/would advise for a young person starting out.)

    Just wall the joint off as a penal colony.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Danindc

    The North side is one of the most fun places to live in America. I think it’s still very safe as well.

    • Replies: @John Up North
    @Danindc

    Ten years ago I would have agreed with you. I've been living on the Northside for several decades and I can see it has gotten more vibrant over the past five years or so. Restaurants, bars, and apartment buildings have gotten more colorful. I no longer feel safe walking around Northside neighborhoods.

    Replies: @Flip

    , @Hibernian
    @Danindc


    I think it’s still very safe as well.
     
    Not any more, just less dangerous than the South and West sides.

    Replies: @Danindc

  66. @Jonathan Mason
    Sue the gun manufacturers who let these weapons get into the hands of criminals.

    Replies: @anon, @Whiskey, @J.Ross, @Alfa158, @donut, @Alden, @The Anti-Gnostic

    Go back to England, limey.

  67. @JohnnyWalker123
    They're working on Chicago Seinfeld.

    Watch this 10-second video to catch a sneak peek.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d2S5-9mqjA

    Replies: @gutta percha

    People always talk about the south side of Chicago being bad, but the west side is scarier, IMHO.

  68. @Almost Missouri
    @Nicholas Stix

    It kinda looked like that first cop was shot in his right hand and the bullet simultaneously hit the cop's magazine release, effectively disarming him (except for one in the chamber).

    That was a close call for him.

    Replies: @Gaspar DeLaFunk, @Twinkie, @Bizarro World Observer

    I think the “magazine” was actually a radio. It’s got an antenna, if you look at it.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Bizarro World Observer

    Thanks for that. You are right upon a second watching of the video.

  69. @Twinkie
    @Nicholas Stix

    I don’t disagree, but if you are constrained in use of force, then you have to practice proper defensive tactics to minimize risks. I don’t want to second guess the officers as I wasn’t there, but I don’t understand why that one officer who exited the white patrol car approached an armed suspect and closed the distance, instead of seeking cover behind the vehicle and ordering the suspect to drop his weapon. Yes, a handgun is a projectile weapon, but the vast majority of people don’t make hits beyond contact distance and that officer made it easier for the suspect to make hits on him.

    Replies: @Diversity Heretic, @AnotherDad

    As my dad used to say:

    “Never get out of perfectly good Ford, to get chummy with a Latin loon with a gun.”

  70. @Joe Stalin
    Bring back the 12-ga shotgun, and add red dot sights.

    Shot Spotter seems to be resulting in more CPD cops being killed (run over by trains) and sustaining gun shot wounds.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlHsVQDbyx4

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @donut, @John Johnson, @Not Raul

    Bring back the 12-ga shotgun, and add red dot sights.

    Too much liability with the shotgun.

    With an AR they can drop a guy easily at 100 yards. With a shotgun the range is 60 yards and the usual suspects would flip out over the results of a close range encounter.

    The city would get sued over taking off the arm of poor Shawntavius.

  71. @Diversity Heretic
    @Twinkie

    Your point is a good one. It's easy to second guess, but stopping a ways away and confronting the armed man with a carbine or shotgun with the engine block between you and him seems to me to have been a better course of action.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Your point is a good one. It’s easy to second guess, but stopping a ways away and confronting the armed man with a carbine or shotgun with the engine block between you and him seems to me to have been a better course of action.

    It looks like they were hesitating and not falling back on their training. The officer that confronts him walks needlessly close and doesn’t have his gun leveled on him.

    They are probably all afraid of losing their jobs and ending up on CNN.

    This was a disaster.

    • Agree: gandydancer
  72. @mikeInThe716
    WTF? This was tactically nuts.

    Does the Chicago PD have patrol rifles? Given the outdoor 'man-with-gun' nature of this encounter and the range involved, an AR style carbine with a low-mag optic should have been part of the mix.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @John Johnson

    Does the Chicago PD have patrol rifles? Given the outdoor ‘man-with-gun’ nature of this encounter and the range involved, an AR style carbine with a low-mag optic should have been part of the mix.

    In the big cities they only seem to pull them when there is an active shooter.

    Given the number of shootings it would make sense to have a designated heavy (AR, ceramic armor) but Democrat cities wouldn’t like the image.

  73. @Calvin Hobbes
    @Buffalo Joe

    Latest SCC article at Chicago Contrarian:

    https://www.chicagocontrarian.com/blog/on-chicago-second-city-cop-has-a-few-observations-and-opinions

    Here’s a passage from that article that illustrates what a piece of garbage Mayor Lightfoot (AKA Groot) is:

    Lightfoot's security blanket

    And finally, with manpower down 18 percent across the board, retirements through the roof, resignations at record levels and no one take the entrance exam, Groot decides to take fifty-six officers, two sergeants and a lieutenant (mostly from the already shorthanded Districts) and assign them to....her house. That's most of a Watch, now assigned to Groot. That means (once again) if you want a day off to relax, recover and maybe make some sort of family plans after three weeks of 12-hour days (and more to come), too darn bad.

    Replies: @Blodgie

    Cops getting massive overtime checks—yeah, I’m sure they hate that!

    Overtime (which most of us schmucks who don’t have gubmint jobs don’t get) is how these guys can make $200k and have their bass boats and cabins in WI.

    Stop bootlicking for these union grafters!

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Blodgie

    Per Censored Second City Cop Blog, one of the features of Groot's regime has been clock-encompassing overtime, in mismatched assignments (with bizarre lacunae where embattled areas are effectively abandoned), without proper compensation. They have actually not been getting paid.

    Replies: @JMcG

    , @Bartleby the Scrivner
    @Blodgie

    You’re welcome to apply!

  74. There used to be a TV show called Chicago PD had, as its raison d’être the justification of police violence, torture, bribery, perjury and corruption.
    Chicago seemed to differ in scale but not scope from other police departments.

  75. anon[471] • Disclaimer says:

    The segment of the body cam where the criminal actor “shows his hands” and starts shooting is remarkably like something out of a FATS simulation. A near-classic “shoot or do not” segment, in fact.

    Perhaps a full FATS session on a yearly basis for every Mayor and city council member would be a useful thing. Sure, some are too dim or dumb to learn, but others might benefit.

  76. @Alden
    @Whiskey

    Your greatest post ever. Thank you.,

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Your greatest post ever. Thank you.,

    Amazing– nothing in it about race or sex, let alone about race and sex.

  77. @UNIT472
    Tim McVeigh got a Bronze Star for shooting the head and shoulders off an Iraqi soldier at 2000 yards with the 25 mm gun on his Bradley Fighting Vehicle in 1991. Isn't it way past time we give our cops the same kind of long range optics and one shot one kill weaponry at 30o meters in our our urban combat zones. This guy should not have been taken alive.

    Replies: @Pericles, @nokangaroos, @J.Ross

    Rifles in Chicago I don’t know, but pistol caliber carbines should increase accuracy without tremendously increasing range and penetration. In fact it ought to be possible to allow a cop to quickly biggie-size his current sidearm (with which he is most familiar) with a rapidly-attachable stock (although not a “universal” one, it wouldn’t be too hard to customize). It might be possible to extend the barrel and have the pistol “sit” in a stock and barrel assembly. A cop could carry the pistol on his hip and have the attachable stock assembly near his seat in the patrol car.

    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
    @J.Ross

    The 1917 Artillery Model Luger had an attachable shoulder stock that doubled as a holster and an optional 32 round "snail" magazine.

    https://historical.ha.com/itm/handguns/semiautomatic-pistol/german-1917-dwm-artillery-luger-semi-automatic-pistol-with-leather-holster-shoulder-stock-and-snail-drum-magazine-total-3-items-/a/6160-40

    The idea never really caught on. By the time you finish assembling something like that you could easily have grabbed an AR-15, a Mini-14 or a 12 gauge shotgun. Pistol caliber carbines never made much sense to me; power and range of a pistol, bulk and weight of a carbine. Jeff Cooper once wrote: "If you know you are going into a shooting situation, you have loaded shotgun in your hands, not a pistol in your holster."

  78. @Joe Stalin
    Bring back the 12-ga shotgun, and add red dot sights.

    Shot Spotter seems to be resulting in more CPD cops being killed (run over by trains) and sustaining gun shot wounds.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlHsVQDbyx4

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @donut, @John Johnson, @Not Raul

    Criminals get their guns from:
    A. Stolen guns often from police and feds. Example, the gun used to kill the nice White lady in San Francisco by the illegal alien was stolen from an FBI agent’s car.
    B. Illegal gun imports over the border with drugs and trafficked human beings. Open borders = guns for criminals.
    C. Straw purchases by friends/family — the smallest contingent but it does happen.

    A. If a cop allows his gun to be stolen, there should be serious consequences.

    B. You have it backwards. Guns are trafficked over the border from the USA to Mexico.

    https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/arming-mexican-cartels-inside-story-of-a-texas-gun-smuggling-ring-866836/

    C. Actually, it happens a lot more often than you might think. If there is a straw purchase from a friend/relative, and the gun is later identified as being used in a crime, the friend/relative who sold the gun will claim that it was stolen.

  79. Slightly OT: Here’s a story in the NY Daily News about an anti-semitic hate crime.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/bash-your-jewish-f-ing-head-bigot-threatens-man-on-brooklyn-street/ar-AAKWw6F?ocid=entnewsntp

    Surprising that they identify the wanted perp as “Black man.” I wonder if the “crime” had been more serious would the cops have downgraded the description to “man.”

  80. @Truth
    @Nicholas Stix


    They were so inhibited about shooting the perp, due to the War on White Policemen,
     
    Oh, I don't know, Old Sport. Was he shot because of the War on White Policemen, or was he shot because of the Leniency on White Suspects? Or maybe it was just that the policeman had no great desire to kill someone?

    I do think it is cute the way you guys relate everything in your lives to African-American influence.

    "Honey where are you going?"

    "To the beauty shop."

    "(she's only doing that because they put a black guy on the 10:00 news!...)"

    Replies: @AceDeuce, @Richard B, @Alden

    There are no White suspects in Chicago and most American cities. The blacks drove the Whites out with murder rape looting pillaging and terrorism decades ago.

    • Replies: @Truth
    @Alden

    Aldey, you'd be surprised...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6gXmltJLIQ
    https://worldstar.com/video.php?v=wshh0XKLCUT2qx2wbGIo
    https://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh0LCC94N7B648EC6y
    https://worldstar.com/video.php?v=wshhN1y9Vo7pOWs7d6US
    https://worldstar.com/video.php?v=wshh03yFG3ZIm3fOKiDX
    https://worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video-c.php?v=wshh4iU4oc80e8AvrHX3#comments-arena
    https://worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video-c.php?v=wshh7c25TUvXp8zth5nq#comments-arena

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

  81. @Alden
    @Jonathan Mason

    Chicago criminals have more access to stolen guns than most criminals. For more than a century Chicago was designed to be the center of the railroad system of the entire country. Still is. Railroad freight cars arrive in Chicago and are assembled into trains going all over the country.

    The freight cars spend a day or two in the miles and miles of of freight yards in Chicago before being attached to a new train and leaving.
    Criminals have been looting the freight cars since the 1850s. Some of the freight cars carry guns.

    Americans know that criminals cannot buy guns from licensed gun dealers. They buy their guns from other criminals. They buy guns stolen from gun shops, warehouses the Chicago freight yards and from cars homes businesses during burglaries.

    Chicago criminals use stolen guns. Why buy a gun when you can steal it or buy it half price from another thief?

    Replies: @Sick 'n Tired, @Hibernian

    Here’s another way they are getting guns. Ripping the gates off of the store, or ramming a stolen truck thru the front of the store and grabbing what they can.

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    @Sick 'n Tired

    In the military, bolts are always kept in a separate locked container away from their respective weapons. A firearm without a bolt is just a fancy club.

    Do gun stores really keep fully functional weapons in their display cases?

    Even EB Games removes the discs from cases on the shelves!

  82. @Sick 'n Tired
    @Alden

    Here's another way they are getting guns. Ripping the gates off of the store, or ramming a stolen truck thru the front of the store and grabbing what they can.

    https://youtu.be/UvlDPj_eDtc

    Replies: @BenKenobi

    In the military, bolts are always kept in a separate locked container away from their respective weapons. A firearm without a bolt is just a fancy club.

    Do gun stores really keep fully functional weapons in their display cases?

    Even EB Games removes the discs from cases on the shelves!

  83. @Paperback Writer
    @War for Blair Mountain

    There's a thing called a link. People who post comments like yours should be permanently banned.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

  84. @Dan Smith
    Slightly off topic but I watched an amusing Court Cam last night in which a “Sovereign Citizen” in Alaska kept mouthing off to deputies who wouldn’t let him bring a phone cam into the courtroom. He had an answer for everything... until he got tased.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    You are a creepy thug if you think that’s funny. And why can he not bring a phone camera in?

  85. @Buffalo Joe
    Chicago cops can not longer perform foot pursuits for anything less than a Class A Misdemeanor or engage in car chases. Sadly, some people will watch the video and say...'Good the cops were shot, too bad they weren't killed.' Maybe even mayor lightfoot, she is that demented. And, Second City Cop is writing articles at the Chicago Contrarian website. I miss those guys.

    Replies: @Calvin Hobbes, @Calvin Hobbes, @George Rockwell

    Fuck cops. In the best of times they are about as useful as tits on a boar. Most of them are power tripping bullies that like to shoot dogs and terrorize innocent people. When they actually start enforcing the law against negros and antifa like they do white people, I might be inclined to respect them a little.

    • Replies: @Richard B
    @George Rockwell


    When they actually start enforcing the law against negros and antifa like they do white people, I might be inclined to respect them a little.
     
    Bingo!

    And respect them a little is the right way to put it. Because, in that case they'd only be doing what they're supposed to do in the first place.
  86. @Alden
    @Truth

    There are no White suspects in Chicago and most American cities. The blacks drove the Whites out with murder rape looting pillaging and terrorism decades ago.

    Replies: @Truth

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Truth

    Truth: "White people commit crimes!"

    video: "Police arrested 28-year-old Vyvianna Quinonez..."

    It's okay, Truth. Better luck next time.

    Replies: @Truth

  87. @Bizarro World Observer
    @Almost Missouri

    I think the "magazine" was actually a radio. It's got an antenna, if you look at it.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    Thanks for that. You are right upon a second watching of the video.

  88. @R.G. Camara
    Choosing to work for the Chicago PD is like volunteering for AIDS infections.

    Replies: @John Up North, @JohnnyD, @Neoconned, @Truth

    Choosing to work for the Chicago PD is like volunteering for AIDS infections.

    Chosing to work for the Chicago PD is like volunteering for the Covid-19 Vaccine.

    FIFY.

    • Replies: @Richard B
    @Truth


    Choosing to work for the Chicago PD is like volunteering for AIDS infections.

    Chosing to work for the Chicago PD is like volunteering for the Covid-19 Vaccine.
     

    Living in the USA* is like "volunteering" for both Covid and AIDS.

    FIFY.

    *And not just the USA. Like the saying goes, Things are bad all over.

  89. @Blodgie
    @Calvin Hobbes

    Cops getting massive overtime checks—yeah, I’m sure they hate that!

    Overtime (which most of us schmucks who don’t have gubmint jobs don’t get) is how these guys can make $200k and have their bass boats and cabins in WI.

    Stop bootlicking for these union grafters!

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Bartleby the Scrivner

    Per Censored Second City Cop Blog, one of the features of Groot’s regime has been clock-encompassing overtime, in mismatched assignments (with bizarre lacunae where embattled areas are effectively abandoned), without proper compensation. They have actually not been getting paid.

    • Replies: @JMcG
    @J.Ross

    It’s hard to believe the FOP is tolerating that. That’s standard Wage and Hour law. Although, nothing surprises me anymore.

    Replies: @J.Ross

  90. @J.Ross
    @Blodgie

    Per Censored Second City Cop Blog, one of the features of Groot's regime has been clock-encompassing overtime, in mismatched assignments (with bizarre lacunae where embattled areas are effectively abandoned), without proper compensation. They have actually not been getting paid.

    Replies: @JMcG

    It’s hard to believe the FOP is tolerating that. That’s standard Wage and Hour law. Although, nothing surprises me anymore.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @JMcG

    Leave it be, J, it's Chi-town.

  91. @Ralph L
    I'm sure a few good social workers could have handled that better.

    Replies: @flyingtiger

    LOL!

  92. @Neoconned
    @R.G. Camara

    LOL yep.

    Was this a suicide by cop attempt?

    Replies: @Cortes

    Suicide by cop attempt seems very possible to me. Why the lack of response to the police officers shouts? A hearing defect from deafness? Wearing headphones? Or taking the cops well away from areas covered by security cameras and look for the chance to exchange gunfire?

  93. @Alden
    @Jonathan Mason

    Chicago criminals have more access to stolen guns than most criminals. For more than a century Chicago was designed to be the center of the railroad system of the entire country. Still is. Railroad freight cars arrive in Chicago and are assembled into trains going all over the country.

    The freight cars spend a day or two in the miles and miles of of freight yards in Chicago before being attached to a new train and leaving.
    Criminals have been looting the freight cars since the 1850s. Some of the freight cars carry guns.

    Americans know that criminals cannot buy guns from licensed gun dealers. They buy their guns from other criminals. They buy guns stolen from gun shops, warehouses the Chicago freight yards and from cars homes businesses during burglaries.

    Chicago criminals use stolen guns. Why buy a gun when you can steal it or buy it half price from another thief?

    Replies: @Sick 'n Tired, @Hibernian

    Bypass lines around the city, built in the late 19th century, but little used in the 2nd half of the 20th, lately have been used more. Still a lot of rail traffic, overwhelmingly container, tank car, or grain or coal hopper car, moves very slowly through the city, sometimes parked on embankments, and often parked in intermodal (container) yards. There have been thefts of guns from the containers reported recently.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Hibernian

    Couple days ago more than a million rounds of ammo were stolen in Mexico. Manufactured in Cuernavaca, on their way to the US.

    Replies: @JMcG, @anon, @Hibernian

  94. @Danindc
    @AnotherDad

    The North side is one of the most fun places to live in America. I think it’s still very safe as well.

    Replies: @John Up North, @Hibernian

    Ten years ago I would have agreed with you. I’ve been living on the Northside for several decades and I can see it has gotten more vibrant over the past five years or so. Restaurants, bars, and apartment buildings have gotten more colorful. I no longer feel safe walking around Northside neighborhoods.

    • Replies: @Flip
    @John Up North

    I live on the near north side and walk everywhere. It doesn't seem bad to me yet but the press reports of car jackings in Lincoln Park and other wealthy areas are disturbing. The biggest change I think is the States Attorney, Kim Foxx, who lets many criminals off the hook.

    I think it would be fairly easy to solve the crime problem. If you get caught with an illegal gun (which they all are), you get put in solitary confinement in a lock up in some remote small town for a year. If you do it again when you get out, you get two years. Punishment needs to be more punitive.

    The black aldermen complain about the crime, but they won't tolerate putting more young blacks in jail so they block the fixes.

    Replies: @John Up North

  95. @Danindc
    @AnotherDad

    The North side is one of the most fun places to live in America. I think it’s still very safe as well.

    Replies: @John Up North, @Hibernian

    I think it’s still very safe as well.

    Not any more, just less dangerous than the South and West sides.

    • Replies: @Danindc
    @Hibernian

    I’ve been gone for 12 years. Shame.

  96. @Truth
    @Alden

    Aldey, you'd be surprised...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6gXmltJLIQ
    https://worldstar.com/video.php?v=wshh0XKLCUT2qx2wbGIo
    https://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh0LCC94N7B648EC6y
    https://worldstar.com/video.php?v=wshhN1y9Vo7pOWs7d6US
    https://worldstar.com/video.php?v=wshh03yFG3ZIm3fOKiDX
    https://worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video-c.php?v=wshh4iU4oc80e8AvrHX3#comments-arena
    https://worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video-c.php?v=wshh7c25TUvXp8zth5nq#comments-arena

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    Truth: “White people commit crimes!”

    video: “Police arrested 28-year-old Vyvianna Quinonez…”

    It’s okay, Truth. Better luck next time.

    • Replies: @Truth
    @Almost Missouri

    Next time comes quicker than you'd think...


    https://www.unz.com/isteve/guillermo-del-toro-person-of-color/?highlight=guillermo+del+toro

  97. @Almost Missouri
    @Truth

    Truth: "White people commit crimes!"

    video: "Police arrested 28-year-old Vyvianna Quinonez..."

    It's okay, Truth. Better luck next time.

    Replies: @Truth

  98. CCZ says:
    @Altai
    Stuffs getting wild out there.

    Here is a video showing a guy who stole a police car and then after being pitted into the woods, evades a dozen cops and steals a C9 car with a couple of guns.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQ-aGhHGa5I

    Should the guy holding the door open have shot the guy before he got off in the second car? Hard decision, the road ahead of him was empty but he did gain access to guns.

    And a few months ago, guy shoots off on several NYPD at the bottom of a stairwell. Amazingly nobody, including the suspect was shot, though two police suffered bullet grazes.

    https://twitter.com/NYScanner/status/1369427921140670466

    Replies: @CCZ

    “Stuffs getting wild out there.” And not just for the police. Melanin Overdose.

    “Shooting of child spurs large brawl, shooting at Children’s Hospital.”

    “The shooting of a 6-year-old Pittsburgh girl sparked a fight between two sides of her family at the hospital where she was being treated, spurring another shooting that left two men wounded and a third facing charges. The brawl in front of UPMC Children’s Hospital of Pittsburgh on Thursday night involved at least 30 people, Pittsburgh police said.

  99. @Hibernian
    @Alden

    Bypass lines around the city, built in the late 19th century, but little used in the 2nd half of the 20th, lately have been used more. Still a lot of rail traffic, overwhelmingly container, tank car, or grain or coal hopper car, moves very slowly through the city, sometimes parked on embankments, and often parked in intermodal (container) yards. There have been thefts of guns from the containers reported recently.

    Replies: @Alden

    Couple days ago more than a million rounds of ammo were stolen in Mexico. Manufactured in Cuernavaca, on their way to the US.

    • Replies: @JMcG
    @Alden

    Probably to Homeland Security. I still hate that term; it sounds so Soviet.

    , @anon
    @Alden

    Couple days ago more than a million rounds of ammo were stolen in Mexico.

    https://news.yahoo.com/millions-rounds-ammunition-stolen-mexican-222217102.html

    Aquila .22 rimfire is ok for plinking, shooting squirrels, etc. but it's not as good as Eley for competition.

    , @Hibernian
    @Alden

    Sounds like the plot line of a Western.

  100. @J.Ross
    @UNIT472

    Rifles in Chicago I don't know, but pistol caliber carbines should increase accuracy without tremendously increasing range and penetration. In fact it ought to be possible to allow a cop to quickly biggie-size his current sidearm (with which he is most familiar) with a rapidly-attachable stock (although not a "universal" one, it wouldn't be too hard to customize). It might be possible to extend the barrel and have the pistol "sit" in a stock and barrel assembly. A cop could carry the pistol on his hip and have the attachable stock assembly near his seat in the patrol car.

    Replies: @Diversity Heretic

    The 1917 Artillery Model Luger had an attachable shoulder stock that doubled as a holster and an optional 32 round “snail” magazine.

    https://historical.ha.com/itm/handguns/semiautomatic-pistol/german-1917-dwm-artillery-luger-semi-automatic-pistol-with-leather-holster-shoulder-stock-and-snail-drum-magazine-total-3-items-/a/6160-40

    The idea never really caught on. By the time you finish assembling something like that you could easily have grabbed an AR-15, a Mini-14 or a 12 gauge shotgun. Pistol caliber carbines never made much sense to me; power and range of a pistol, bulk and weight of a carbine. Jeff Cooper once wrote: “If you know you are going into a shooting situation, you have loaded shotgun in your hands, not a pistol in your holster.”

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
  101. @Alden
    @Hibernian

    Couple days ago more than a million rounds of ammo were stolen in Mexico. Manufactured in Cuernavaca, on their way to the US.

    Replies: @JMcG, @anon, @Hibernian

    Probably to Homeland Security. I still hate that term; it sounds so Soviet.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  102. These genius cops were in each other’s line of fire.

  103. • Replies: @fish
    @CCZ

    Sailers Law of Urban Shooting too! 13 injuries= black bedreaded shooter!

  104. @Blodgie
    @Calvin Hobbes

    Cops getting massive overtime checks—yeah, I’m sure they hate that!

    Overtime (which most of us schmucks who don’t have gubmint jobs don’t get) is how these guys can make $200k and have their bass boats and cabins in WI.

    Stop bootlicking for these union grafters!

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Bartleby the Scrivner

    You’re welcome to apply!

  105. @The Alarmist
    I used to like visiting the Windy City, but isn’t it time to wall off large portions of it?

    Replies: @Boy the way Glenn Miller played

    I used to like visiting the Windy City, but isn’t it time to wall off large portions of it?

    How about a Caterpillar D 11 field day?

  106. @Alden
    @Hibernian

    Couple days ago more than a million rounds of ammo were stolen in Mexico. Manufactured in Cuernavaca, on their way to the US.

    Replies: @JMcG, @anon, @Hibernian

    Couple days ago more than a million rounds of ammo were stolen in Mexico.

    https://news.yahoo.com/millions-rounds-ammunition-stolen-mexican-222217102.html

    Aquila .22 rimfire is ok for plinking, shooting squirrels, etc. but it’s not as good as Eley for competition.


  107. ******

    https://www.statesman.com/story/news/2021/06/12/downtown-austin-shooting-least-13-shot-suspect-remains-large/7666624002/

    This is a developing story. Please return to read more.

    Editor’s note: Police have only released a vague description of the suspected shooter as of Saturday morning. The Austin American-Statesman is not including the description as it is too vague at this time to be useful in identifying the shooter and such publication could be harmful in perpetuating stereotypes. If more detailed information is released, we will update our reporting.

    https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/austin-mass-shooting-12-hospitalized-after-attack-downtown/

    Chacon could only share a vague description of one suspect at this time. He said the man may be a Black man with a “skinny” build and locs-style hair. A motive for the shooting is not yet known.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @MEH 0910

    https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1403754631126142977


    Austin, Texas’s popular 6th Street entertainment district was the scene of a mass shooting early Saturday morning. Police reported that 13 people were injured and said the suspected shooter was not in custody.

    Two of the injured were in critical condition, interim Austin Police Chief Joseph Chacon said.

    The shooting happened around 1:30 AM. along 6th Street, which has many bars, restaurants and nightclubs in a city that bills itself as the live music capital. The street was barricaded to keep out vehicle traffic.
     
    , @CCZ
    @MEH 0910

    "Woke" Ideology:

    https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1403794410920370179

    , @Hibernian
    @MEH 0910

    Injured or wounded? In the NYT? Aren't they our betters based on their elite education?

  108. @The Wild Geese Howard
    There are some pretty sweet looking apartments with balconies in this cut.

    Anyone know the monthly on one of those?

    Replies: @Bill Jones

    Anyone know the monthly on one of those?

    A bit cheaper than a week ago.

  109. @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1403727555526639616
    ******

    https://www.statesman.com/story/news/2021/06/12/downtown-austin-shooting-least-13-shot-suspect-remains-large/7666624002/


    This is a developing story. Please return to read more.

    Editor's note: Police have only released a vague description of the suspected shooter as of Saturday morning. The Austin American-Statesman is not including the description as it is too vague at this time to be useful in identifying the shooter and such publication could be harmful in perpetuating stereotypes. If more detailed information is released, we will update our reporting.
     

    https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/austin-mass-shooting-12-hospitalized-after-attack-downtown/

    Chacon could only share a vague description of one suspect at this time. He said the man may be a Black man with a “skinny” build and locs-style hair. A motive for the shooting is not yet known.
     

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @CCZ, @Hibernian

    Austin, Texas’s popular 6th Street entertainment district was the scene of a mass shooting early Saturday morning. Police reported that 13 people were injured and said the suspected shooter was not in custody.

    Two of the injured were in critical condition, interim Austin Police Chief Joseph Chacon said.

    The shooting happened around 1:30 AM. along 6th Street, which has many bars, restaurants and nightclubs in a city that bills itself as the live music capital. The street was barricaded to keep out vehicle traffic.

  110. @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1403727555526639616
    ******

    https://www.statesman.com/story/news/2021/06/12/downtown-austin-shooting-least-13-shot-suspect-remains-large/7666624002/


    This is a developing story. Please return to read more.

    Editor's note: Police have only released a vague description of the suspected shooter as of Saturday morning. The Austin American-Statesman is not including the description as it is too vague at this time to be useful in identifying the shooter and such publication could be harmful in perpetuating stereotypes. If more detailed information is released, we will update our reporting.
     

    https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/austin-mass-shooting-12-hospitalized-after-attack-downtown/

    Chacon could only share a vague description of one suspect at this time. He said the man may be a Black man with a “skinny” build and locs-style hair. A motive for the shooting is not yet known.
     

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @CCZ, @Hibernian

    “Woke” Ideology:

    • Thanks: MEH 0910
  111. @CCZ
    More melanin:

    https://twitter.com/tplohetski/status/1403667301212241921

    Replies: @fish

    Sailers Law of Urban Shooting too! 13 injuries= black bedreaded shooter!

  112. @Alden
    @Hibernian

    Couple days ago more than a million rounds of ammo were stolen in Mexico. Manufactured in Cuernavaca, on their way to the US.

    Replies: @JMcG, @anon, @Hibernian

    Sounds like the plot line of a Western.

  113. @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1403727555526639616
    ******

    https://www.statesman.com/story/news/2021/06/12/downtown-austin-shooting-least-13-shot-suspect-remains-large/7666624002/


    This is a developing story. Please return to read more.

    Editor's note: Police have only released a vague description of the suspected shooter as of Saturday morning. The Austin American-Statesman is not including the description as it is too vague at this time to be useful in identifying the shooter and such publication could be harmful in perpetuating stereotypes. If more detailed information is released, we will update our reporting.
     

    https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/austin-mass-shooting-12-hospitalized-after-attack-downtown/

    Chacon could only share a vague description of one suspect at this time. He said the man may be a Black man with a “skinny” build and locs-style hair. A motive for the shooting is not yet known.
     

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @CCZ, @Hibernian

    Injured or wounded? In the NYT? Aren’t they our betters based on their elite education?

  114. When the Drought begins to effect your personal hygiene, you maybe can use this as a defense.
    https://californiaglobe.com/fl/ca-reservoirs-filled-to-top-in-2019-being-drained-by-state/

    • Replies: @res
    @Bill Jones

    Thanks. I had been wondering if that was part of what was happening. For anyone interested, here is the live version of the reservoir graphic. The date is selectable.
    https://cdec.water.ca.gov/resapp/RescondMain

  115. @Frank McCarthy
    These are professionals, "Sir put it down, put that gun down, where are you going with that?"
    Over 2 minutes is way too long to be in persuit of an unstable and labile perpetrator and possible criminal criminal with a firearm.
    Puts everyone in great peril civilians and Patrol Officers, a like. What happened the 2 officers shot were very lucky. The next time maybe not so. The perp appears disturbed in a way a person suffering from paranoid schizoprenia do. He needs treament for his arm wound and stabilization under medication in a psych ER then to a prison center for futhur long term medication. He should never be allowed upon the streets in that condition again.
    The CPD are very brave men and woman trying their best to protect the wards under the most trying and difficult situations. The worst thing about Chicago are that pistols are allover the place and probably the majority are not registered or liscensed.
    What a milleux to live in, I know becaused I had the pleasure of living in South Chicago, Jackson Park then West Central for 7 years. Without the Illegal drug trade it could be an even better place to be.

    Replies: @magila

    The worst thing about Chicago are that pistols are allover the place and probably the majority are not registered or liscensed.

    So the pistols are wandering Chicago by themselves, causing “shots to ring out” and “violence to erupt”?

    The worst thing about Chicago are the feral humans with low IQ’s and no impulse control. Take away their stolen guns and they’d use fists, feet, clubs, shovels, chains, and machetes. Just like their cousins in Rwanda.

    • LOL: TWS
    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    @magila


    The worst thing about Chicago are that pistols are allover the place and probably the majority are not registered or liscensed.
     
    Thank goodness the hated Chicago GUN REGISTRATION is GONE!!! It was removed when an Asian Federal judge called BULLSHIT on IL's lack of legally carrying and led to IL creating new gun laws.

    IL acquired GUN OWNER LICENSING when the IL State Rifle Association proposed this back in 1968 in an attempt to ward off ever MORE gun control. As the decades rolled by, the Gun Controllers continuous added MORE gun control laws.

    People have been denied their Second Amendment GUN RIGHTS for nearly a year because the State of Illinois does NOT care about the Bill of Rights, only what the cosmopolitans care about - MORE GUN CONTROL.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIqGkwhfbTo

    Replies: @Flip

  116. “The worst thing about Chicago are the feral humans with low IQ’s and no impulse control.”

    Even after a mass shooting.

  117. @magila
    @Frank McCarthy


    The worst thing about Chicago are that pistols are allover the place and probably the majority are not registered or liscensed.
     
    So the pistols are wandering Chicago by themselves, causing "shots to ring out" and "violence to erupt"?

    The worst thing about Chicago are the feral humans with low IQ's and no impulse control. Take away their stolen guns and they'd use fists, feet, clubs, shovels, chains, and machetes. Just like their cousins in Rwanda.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

    The worst thing about Chicago are that pistols are allover the place and probably the majority are not registered or liscensed.

    Thank goodness the hated Chicago GUN REGISTRATION is GONE!!! It was removed when an Asian Federal judge called BULLSHIT on IL’s lack of legally carrying and led to IL creating new gun laws.

    IL acquired GUN OWNER LICENSING when the IL State Rifle Association proposed this back in 1968 in an attempt to ward off ever MORE gun control. As the decades rolled by, the Gun Controllers continuous added MORE gun control laws.

    People have been denied their Second Amendment GUN RIGHTS for nearly a year because the State of Illinois does NOT care about the Bill of Rights, only what the cosmopolitans care about – MORE GUN CONTROL.

    • Replies: @Flip
    @Joe Stalin

    Yeah, my FOID renewal application has been outstanding for over a year. They sent me a letter saying they were automatically extending them for the time being. It doesn't seem like a very complicated thing to process.

  118. @JMcG
    @J.Ross

    It’s hard to believe the FOP is tolerating that. That’s standard Wage and Hour law. Although, nothing surprises me anymore.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Leave it be, J, it’s Chi-town.

  119. @Bill Jones
    @Whiskey


    Federal checks are mandatory, take a few minutes to an hour.
     
    I've never had one take less than two days.

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @Bill Jones

    You are being slow-walked by whatever state you live in. They’re processed in minutes in my state.

  120. @Truth
    @R.G. Camara


    Choosing to work for the Chicago PD is like volunteering for AIDS infections.
     
    Chosing to work for the Chicago PD is like volunteering for the Covid-19 Vaccine.

    FIFY.

    Replies: @Richard B

    Choosing to work for the Chicago PD is like volunteering for AIDS infections.

    Chosing to work for the Chicago PD is like volunteering for the Covid-19 Vaccine.

    Living in the USA* is like “volunteering” for both Covid and AIDS.

    FIFY.

    *And not just the USA. Like the saying goes, Things are bad all over.

  121. @George Rockwell
    @Buffalo Joe

    Fuck cops. In the best of times they are about as useful as tits on a boar. Most of them are power tripping bullies that like to shoot dogs and terrorize innocent people. When they actually start enforcing the law against negros and antifa like they do white people, I might be inclined to respect them a little.

    Replies: @Richard B

    When they actually start enforcing the law against negros and antifa like they do white people, I might be inclined to respect them a little.

    Bingo!

    And respect them a little is the right way to put it. Because, in that case they’d only be doing what they’re supposed to do in the first place.

  122. @John Up North
    @Danindc

    Ten years ago I would have agreed with you. I've been living on the Northside for several decades and I can see it has gotten more vibrant over the past five years or so. Restaurants, bars, and apartment buildings have gotten more colorful. I no longer feel safe walking around Northside neighborhoods.

    Replies: @Flip

    I live on the near north side and walk everywhere. It doesn’t seem bad to me yet but the press reports of car jackings in Lincoln Park and other wealthy areas are disturbing. The biggest change I think is the States Attorney, Kim Foxx, who lets many criminals off the hook.

    I think it would be fairly easy to solve the crime problem. If you get caught with an illegal gun (which they all are), you get put in solitary confinement in a lock up in some remote small town for a year. If you do it again when you get out, you get two years. Punishment needs to be more punitive.

    The black aldermen complain about the crime, but they won’t tolerate putting more young blacks in jail so they block the fixes.

    • Replies: @John Up North
    @Flip

    Those car jacking reports are real and are mostly committed by armed black juveniles. The Cook County States Attorney is letting attempted murderers and armed robbers go free with little or no bail. Kim Foxx won in an overwhelming election against an old white former judge who ran on a law and order platform. The cucked voters of Chicago are getting it good and hard.

    Replies: @Flip

  123. @Joe Stalin
    @magila


    The worst thing about Chicago are that pistols are allover the place and probably the majority are not registered or liscensed.
     
    Thank goodness the hated Chicago GUN REGISTRATION is GONE!!! It was removed when an Asian Federal judge called BULLSHIT on IL's lack of legally carrying and led to IL creating new gun laws.

    IL acquired GUN OWNER LICENSING when the IL State Rifle Association proposed this back in 1968 in an attempt to ward off ever MORE gun control. As the decades rolled by, the Gun Controllers continuous added MORE gun control laws.

    People have been denied their Second Amendment GUN RIGHTS for nearly a year because the State of Illinois does NOT care about the Bill of Rights, only what the cosmopolitans care about - MORE GUN CONTROL.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIqGkwhfbTo

    Replies: @Flip

    Yeah, my FOID renewal application has been outstanding for over a year. They sent me a letter saying they were automatically extending them for the time being. It doesn’t seem like a very complicated thing to process.

  124. @Bill Jones
    When the Drought begins to effect your personal hygiene, you maybe can use this as a defense.
    https://californiaglobe.com/fl/ca-reservoirs-filled-to-top-in-2019-being-drained-by-state/

    Replies: @res

    Thanks. I had been wondering if that was part of what was happening. For anyone interested, here is the live version of the reservoir graphic. The date is selectable.
    https://cdec.water.ca.gov/resapp/RescondMain

  125. @Flip
    @John Up North

    I live on the near north side and walk everywhere. It doesn't seem bad to me yet but the press reports of car jackings in Lincoln Park and other wealthy areas are disturbing. The biggest change I think is the States Attorney, Kim Foxx, who lets many criminals off the hook.

    I think it would be fairly easy to solve the crime problem. If you get caught with an illegal gun (which they all are), you get put in solitary confinement in a lock up in some remote small town for a year. If you do it again when you get out, you get two years. Punishment needs to be more punitive.

    The black aldermen complain about the crime, but they won't tolerate putting more young blacks in jail so they block the fixes.

    Replies: @John Up North

    Those car jacking reports are real and are mostly committed by armed black juveniles. The Cook County States Attorney is letting attempted murderers and armed robbers go free with little or no bail. Kim Foxx won in an overwhelming election against an old white former judge who ran on a law and order platform. The cucked voters of Chicago are getting it good and hard.

    • Replies: @Flip
    @John Up North

    I wish Emanuel were still in charge. He was willing to put the hammer down when gangs of kids ran out of control.

    Replies: @JimDandy

  126. @Gaspar DeLaFunk
    Since I first saw this I wondered why they didn't have a car come around and close on this clown from the other direction.

    Anyway,Chicago is very sick. I don't want to say it's dying,there's a lot of ruin in a great city,but the cancer of blacks and browns is spreading fast.
    The best areas are beset by carjackers and gangstas.

    But the negro Rhodes Scholars are intent on renaming LSD after their Jean DuSable. That will help.

    Replies: @gandydancer

    Since I first saw this I wondered why they didn’t have a car come around and close on this clown from the other direction.

    Then you should watch it again, because the two cops who were shot were precsely the two who closed on him in a car from the other direction.

  127. @John Up North
    @Flip

    Those car jacking reports are real and are mostly committed by armed black juveniles. The Cook County States Attorney is letting attempted murderers and armed robbers go free with little or no bail. Kim Foxx won in an overwhelming election against an old white former judge who ran on a law and order platform. The cucked voters of Chicago are getting it good and hard.

    Replies: @Flip

    I wish Emanuel were still in charge. He was willing to put the hammer down when gangs of kids ran out of control.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @Flip

    He sucked. But it's amazing how good he looks in contrast to Groot.

  128. @Flip
    @John Up North

    I wish Emanuel were still in charge. He was willing to put the hammer down when gangs of kids ran out of control.

    Replies: @JimDandy

    He sucked. But it’s amazing how good he looks in contrast to Groot.

  129. @Hibernian
    @Danindc


    I think it’s still very safe as well.
     
    Not any more, just less dangerous than the South and West sides.

    Replies: @Danindc

    I’ve been gone for 12 years. Shame.

  130. @Bill Jones
    @Whiskey


    Federal checks are mandatory, take a few minutes to an hour.
     
    I've never had one take less than two days.

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @Bill Jones

    Both PA and MD

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