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  1. Poetic justice. Title IX turned around to chew on itself.

    Perfect!

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @anon

    So Wimmin setting themselves up as parasites upon normal men, turned out to be setting themselves up as Hosts for abnormal men.

    It's hard not to laugh. So I did.

    btw.Did anybody else catching a little of the Coronation of The Pretender yesterday think how much Washington now had its own Green Zone; where the occupiers could go about the business of looting without catching sight of the rebellious natives?

    Replies: @EdwardM, @Intelligent Dasein

    , @Jake
    @anon

    I agree. The Feminazis used Title IX to destroy a hundreds of men's college sports teams so hundreds of women's teams that absolutely nobody will ever care about could be funded. Now the logic of Feminism as being Pro-Gay having its own logic leading to promotion of sacred transsexualism will allow men pretending to be women to run amuck in women's sports.

    How low ranked was that man tennis player who dominated Serena Williams?

    Replies: @Calvin Hobbes, @George

    , @Alden
    @anon

    Title IX, the lesbian full employment act. I gather the feminazis are in full agreement with men in women's sports. Karma

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @anon


    Poetic justice. Title IX turned around to chew on itself.
     
    It's not a glass ceiling, it's a glans cap.
    , @The Alarmist
    @anon


    Title IX turned around to chew on itself.
     
    Turned around or flipped on itself would make it Title XI, as in Joe Biden is a puppet of Xi in the destruction of the US, its culture, and its institutions.
  2. They asked for it.

    • Replies: @Wadco
    @J

    They who?

  3. These girls and women don’t want a guy in their locker room and showers.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Clyde

    Yeah, well a lot of us don't want a lot of stuff.

    Feral Gov't messing with your life, ladies?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD94dVu8lqQ

    Replies: @Do You Even Lift

    , @Lot
    @Clyde

    Sentence too long, cut last 6 words.

    https://www.liverampup.com/uploads/images/Brittney%20Griner.jpg

    Replies: @ATate

    , @guest007
    @Clyde

    Who says that Gen X care about showers or locker rooms. No one wants to take a shower in a crowded room where everyone has a cell phone. They change clothes at home and never take showers in public.

    , @Forbes
    @Clyde


    These girls and women don’t want a guy in their locker room and showers.
     
    You'll do what you're told, and you'll like it. Thousands of years of human experience and human nature overturned in a signature.

    Welcome to the new normal.
    , @Servant of Gla'aki
    @Clyde


    These girls and women don’t want a guy in their locker room and showers.
     
    Yes.

    They're nazis, in other words.

    That's how it works now. Should be a fun four years!
    , @Desiderius
    @Clyde

    Citation needed

    , @Bite Moi
    @Clyde

    Clyde-------Women should have let the men enjoy their own exclusively male clubs and organizations,but they didn't.

    , @Bartleby the Scrivner
    @Clyde

    The genetic females involved in the affected sports can stop the insanity in just a few events.
    Refuse to compete.
    NCAA makes money off of sports.
    And more importantly, the psychologically damaged males will be the focus of ire.
    If no one shows up for an event, does he event exist?

    Replies: @Rosie

    , @Truth
    @Clyde

    It doesn't depend on the guy?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxuUkYiaUc8

    Replies: @Clyde

  4. “Wichtige Information für Bartträger und Bartträgerinnen // Important information for (male) beard wearers and (female) beard wearers” https://www.derstandard.de/jetzt/livebericht/2000123251491/redcontent/1000215024/wirtschaft?responsive=false – idiocy not limited to USA, what a comfort

  5. It’s no surprise that the very first comment here is a Nanna Nanna boo boo from some juvenile little manosphere jackass.

    But on a more substantive note, what exactly is the objection to Title IX?

    EDIT, not just the first one, but the second one, too.

    How many comments before a normal guy chimes in? Or is it just male chauvinist piglets all the way down?

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
    @Rosie

    Heather Swanson approves!

    Replies: @HammerJack

    , @Buzz Mohawk
    @Rosie

    Hey Rosie, I'm not normal, but I'm a guy all the way down, and I think this is funny. Our new president is an idiot who is already doing idiotic things like this.

    Girls and boys, women and men, are different from each other, and they can and should have fun playing sports. Isn't that all Title IX is about, or should be about?

    We can expect to see more of this dumbed-down presidency. Let's laugh until Kamala takes over.

    Replies: @Sean, @Escher, @nokangaroos, @Achmed E. Newman, @Anonymous, @ben tillman, @Guest29048

    , @Intelligent Dasein
    @Rosie

    I'm actually rather sad, and very sorry to all the girls in the land.

    I think it's time to begin gently telling our daughters that they won't be going to college.

    Replies: @Bostonvegas, @anonymous as usual

    , @Guy De Champlagne
    @Rosie

    Title IX combined with the fact that men are better a sports means that a woman gets more sports program and scholarship funding than an equally skilled man. And, what disturbs even more people, is that Title IX combined with the fact that men are more interested in sports results in male teams getting cut entirely.

    And then there's a whole bunch of other reasons that men should hate feminism so that even if they don't care about sports or hate jocks they should still be opposed to Title IX.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Rosie, @Rosie, @Wilkey, @Anonymous, @Forbes, @Bragadocious

    , @Kyle
    @Rosie

    The last time I was in an airport the university of Iowa girls field hockey team walked by me. The were all sub 5’5” and +150 lbs. They were all short, fat, snot nosed, and pimply faced. They all resembled 14 year olds even though I’m sure they must have been 18-21. There was no intensity or focus in their demeanor, it was just a giggling gaggle of plump juvenile females. Which is fine, but when you start reconciling that with the reality of what you’re seeing it starts to seem ridiculous. Their parents are paying tens of thousands of dollars for them to attend a large state school, and they’re flying around the country to play what’s essentially a children’s game. We’ve cut boys soccer & cross country for this? Something doesn’t seem quite right. You see impressive female athletes on TV, such as track runners or distance swimmers, so it’s jarring to see the reality of female athleticism up close.

    Replies: @dearieme, @Jack D, @Spud Boy, @Paperback Writer, @Truth

    , @Kyle
    @Rosie

    I don’t know what the answer is for equalizing the opportunity for scholarships between boys & girls. I don’t claim to have the answer for that. I don’t want to disparage title 9, I understand where the proponents are coming from. But, look up the participation rates in high school sports. In general, a greater number of males are more interested in playing sports than females. Something just doesn’t feel quite right. It’s problematic, & troubling that mens cross country & soccer teams are cut for women’s field hockey teams. In most cases women’s field hockey should be a club sport.

    , @Mike Tre
    @Rosie

    "But on a more substantive note, what exactly is the objection to Title IX?"

    It's blatant anti male discrimination, you ditz.

    Can someone call Mr. Rosie, and let him know that his wife has wandered out of the kitchen again? she may have even put on shoes.

    Replies: @Rosie, @additionalMike

    , @Neoconned
    @Rosie

    I like corresponding with you on occasion Rosie & i have a daughter so I'm semi sensitive to your concerns.....civilization, if it ever existed in any serious way is coming apart....

    My advice to you for old time sake is.....a) protect yourself and your love ones 1st ...2)lower your expectations of men....if we ever had class to start with its on its way out due to high levels of immigration & competition for jobs, women etc

    Things are going to get scary over the coming decade.

    Goodbye sweetheart, i wish you well.

    , @Anonymous
    @Rosie


    How many comments before a normal guy chimes in? Or is it just male chauvinist piglets all the way down?
     
    I am not convinced that gender segregation in sports is a good thing at the societal level. I am also not convinced that the promotion of female participation in official sports is a good thing for females, males, or for society overall.
    , @Ben tillman
    @Rosie

    One objection to what you call Title IX is that it’s not a law. It’s made up by bureaucrats to mess with us. Enforcement is entirely who/whom.

    And the actual statute isn’t about sports.

    Replies: @Curle, @Paperback Writer

    , @Not Only Wrathful
    @Rosie

    A sensible way for institutions to allocate funding for sport is by the requirement, not by the idea that men and women needed to be treated, when grouped up, as exactly the same. End of

    , @S. Anonyia
    @Rosie

    Title XI is flawed, but some of the Manosphere whiners’ main grievances:

    They delusionally believe if not for Title XI or the presence of women’s sports, every boy who wanted to could be a sports star and grow up with adoring female attention. Also many men who participated in marginal sports like lacrosse or wrestling (Considered kind of gay where I live, by the way. Didn’t even exist in our schools until Midwestern transplants brought it about 10 years ago) hate women’s sports and think they’d get massive crowds for their fringe activities if women’s soccer went away. Or something.

    Just another symptom of America’s fixation on sports but not fitness, honestly.

    Replies: @Gross Terry

    , @Old and Grumpy
    @Rosie

    If the men's football or basketball teams can't pay for the girls, then the poor schmucks just paying their tuition do. Or do you believe all those endowments actually benefit the students in some capacity?

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Rosie


    It’s no surprise that the very first comment here is a Nanna Nanna boo boo from some juvenile little manosphere jackass.
     
    Lots of regular white suburban moms with children support this transgender jackassery. Lots of them voted for Biden, who will now work to disenfranchise them and rob their children of opportunities in the name of "racial and gender equity". That's why it's relevant, you tiresome harpy.

    Replies: @Alice in Wonderland, @Rosie

    , @TWS
    @Rosie

    Go for a walk. Write a book. Go to church. Whatever you do quit reading unz.

    You're warping your perception and turning loony. Find a normal life before you really turn into the female version of tiny duck, before you become another exhibit in the internet menagerie.

    , @Bel Riose
    @Rosie

    And it’s no surprise that the third comment here is from you, our resident Karen, scolding us for finding humor in a humorous situation.

    Tell us – do you troll this site on an hourly basis, eagerly awaiting a comment or an article that discusses women, so that you can jump in and post your usual woman-good-man-bad comments? Given the regularity with which you post here, we can safely assume you are a stay at home mom whose husband (Corvinus?) is out working his ass off, so that you can continue to plague this site with your presence.

    Newsflash, you feminist shill: one of the many objections to Title IX is that it results in the elimination of men’s sports programs, in order to achieve an equal number of female programs.

    For example: State U has 20 men’s sports programs and only 10 women’s sports programs. Title IX does not add 10 more women’s programs. Instead, to achieve “equality,” it simply cuts 10 men’s programs.

    Voila! Instant equality.

    I’m sure you find that an entirely fair and reasonable result, but then again, you are a feminist lunatic.

    Anti-male, anti-white females like yourself are a menace to this country. You are living proof of the Greek philosopher who said “Teaching a woman to write is like giving poison to an asp.”

    Simply stated: you are a mass of enraged estrogen which has somehow taken human form, and then gained access to a keyboard and the internet.

    , @SunBakedSuburb
    @Rosie

    "normal guy ... ?"

    Sorry. Can't help you.

    , @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle
    @Rosie

    ok Karen!

    Hopefully Good Ole Joe Xi Jinping turns all public bathrooms into unisex bathrooms so I can sit down in a stall next to you and ask for a square of TP in a deep baritone voice.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Rosie


    But on a more substantive note, what exactly is the objection to Title IX?
     
    Two:

    Men were more interested in sports than women, so if funds were distributed fairly according to interest, naturally more would go to men's activities. The opposite would've been true of music and theater. This had real-world effects, as minor men's sports were cut to fund activities few women had interest in anyway.

    Which suggest it was never about "fairness", but social engineering, pushing women into sports. Funny, the pre-coed women's colleges were doing a bang-up job of that already. But at coed schools, ladies would rather watch gentlemen compete.

    Ironically, this cause would have a better rationale today. Our young were far less obese in 1970.

    , @Rob
    @Rosie

    I am not a manospherian nor at all interested in sports. But most men are. Title IX applied to sports pitted women’s sports directly against men’s in a culture where a couple of men’s sports got most of the funding from colleges, and men are much more interested in playing sports.

    Title IX’s forces equal funding for women’s sports. Schools were not going to lessen their support of football and basketball, so that killed a lot of men’s sports at the university level.

    Education was already tilted heavily in girls’ favor. When boys do better on the SAT, they add another verbal section to help girls. Boys do better in on math tests? They teach math very badly and slowly. Absolutely no one thinks schools need to be overhauled from top to bottom to ensure that boys’ GPA equals gurls’. While it is may be a symptom of toxic masculinity, it might only be a result of natural competitiveness, being more athletic is the only thing that boys have that makes them feel not-so-inferior to girls. They have a lot of their self-esteem tied up in sports.

    With pretty much every factor in college admissions favoring girls, Title IX gave women equal sports scholarship funding with men. That’s the same athletic scholarship funding spread over far fewer athletes. Given the racial difference x sex difference in sports, most of those football and basketball scholarships are not open to white boys. Black girls don’t play sports much, maybe because of obesity, maybe their hair, I dunno. Regardless of the causes, not only are teachers biased in girls’ favor, but now sports scholarships are, too. Testing, the only remotely fair measure of ability, has been declining in popularity, and will soon be nonexistent. That is largely not the fault of either women or title IX. It can squarely be blamed on Asians testing too well, and blacks testing too poorly. It also has disproportionately hurt boys, who depend on testing to show that they are not dumb, just immature.

    It’s been a long time since I was in high school, but at least back then, the girl-jock culture was not nearly as toxic as the guys’ was, so there is that in favor of pushing women’s athletics. Maybe sporty girls will have a positive influence on the jock subculture, but I think it is just as likely that the boys will turn the girls into binge-drinking, anti-intellectual bullies.

    Don’t get me wrong, our obsession with sports does not speak well of men.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @jon
    @Rosie

    1. Men like sports a LOT more than women. Men play more, men watch more, men spend more. Pushing for total equality in this area is just pushing some people into something they aren't really that into, while preventing others from doing something they love.
    2. Budgets are limited. There are two ways to make things equal, add more opportunities for women, or take away opportunities for men. Title IX proponents always hype the former and pretend like the latter isn't happening.
    3. Football is huge, in all aspects - popularity, number of players, and budget required - and there is no corresponding female version. This exacerbates the problem in #2 above. You have to cut a lot of men's sports if you want to have a football team.

    But the mostly feminist, mostly lesbian women that play college sports are getting their f-ed up world view forced on them, good and hard, so I guess I've done a 180 on the topic and, like you, I have no objection to Title IX.

    , @TruthHammer
    @Rosie

    You are a humaniform, bereft of individuality or self expressive awareness. All your thought are own.

    , @donut
    @Rosie

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ8ls5oN3ps

    , @Unladen Swallow
    @Rosie

    The objection to Title IX is that it is being used to gut a bunch of men's sports in favor of women's sports, since most sports don't make money at the collegiate level outside of football and men's basketball. Those two subsidize all the rest of them, but women aren't as interested in sports as men are, so more men's sports have to be shelved to achieve equal participation rates between men and women, even if the unpopular men's sports are still more popular than female sports that are being kept. This is based on the dubious assertion that men and women find collegiate sports equally interesting.

    A lot of these men's sports at smaller universities produce a lot of Olympic athletes ( or rather they did ) in sports like gymnastics and swimming have now been abolished in favor female team sports like field hockey which by definition is not going to produce a lot of Olympians from one university ( Since there is only one national team attending the Olympics ). A lot of the female students getting athletic scholarship aren't serious about the sports anyway, but they take the scholarship for obvious reasons and a lot of men who could have a career in sports beyond college are left out in the cold because their sport isn't football or basketball.

    Replies: @Rosie

    , @Chrisnonymous
    @Rosie

    The swimming team at one university I attended was shut down because a sport where women and men train together doesn't contribute to title IX "balance". Guess what the alternative was? Cutting the men's basketball team. But they were all blacks, so the predominantly white team had to go.

    , @Paperback Writer
    @Rosie

    You've gotten entangled in a never-ending argument here.

    What do you think will be the practical effect of Biden's EO?

    Asking for a friend.

    Replies: @anon, @Rosie

  6. To quote an old English saying:

    “Biden is both a fool and and a knave, a prick and a c*nt”.

    (Literally).

    • Replies: @JimB
    @Anonymous


    “Biden is both a fool and and a knave, a prick and a c*nt”.
     
    Are you sure about the parallel construction? Knave aligns with prick, while fool aligns with cunt.

    “Biden is both a knave and and afool, a prick and a c*nt."

    At this point, I don't think our senile figurehead, Faux Biden, knows what he is signing. He is neither fool nor a Knave. He is a human autopen like the Philip Green character in the Scorsese film, Casino; just a frontman CEO for the mob.The Democrat Politburo is ruling by decree now. And to think it all started by electing our first third world politician, Obama, to the office of president. I have to admit that I didn't see this coming so quickly, but perhaps the malevolent Hillary wouldn't have been so different.

  7. @Rosie
    It's no surprise that the very first comment here is a Nanna Nanna boo boo from some juvenile little manosphere jackass.

    But on a more substantive note, what exactly is the objection to Title IX?

    EDIT, not just the first one, but the second one, too.

    How many comments before a normal guy chimes in? Or is it just male chauvinist piglets all the way down?

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Buzz Mohawk, @Intelligent Dasein, @Guy De Champlagne, @Kyle, @Kyle, @Mike Tre, @Neoconned, @Anonymous, @Ben tillman, @Not Only Wrathful, @S. Anonyia, @Old and Grumpy, @Mr. Anon, @TWS, @Bel Riose, @SunBakedSuburb, @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle, @Reg Cæsar, @Rob, @jon, @TruthHammer, @donut, @Unladen Swallow, @Chrisnonymous, @Paperback Writer

    Heather Swanson approves!

    • LOL: Kyle
    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @Ron Mexico

    Nitwits like Rosie are exactly why we're in this mess.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb

  8. • Replies: @Jack D
    @Anonymous

    I have a family member who takes Humira. They send it by overnight courier in an insulated box with gel packs (it only needs to be refrigerated, not frozen) and a temperature indicator dot that changes color if the temperature limits have been exceeded (we've never gotten a shipment where they have). Once you open the box the Humira is in an EpiPen type dispenser - you press the tip of the dispenser to your skin and click the button and a spring loaded recessed hypodermic needle injects you.

    For most of the current Covid vaccines you'd need to replace the gel packs with dry ice but this distribution model could work, especially if you could combine all of the doses for a household into one shipment. It could be a supplement to the existing (painfully slow) vaccination programs rather than a substitute, focusing on people in rural areas remote from vaccination centers, the homebound, etc. Amazon and their shipping partners handle millions of boxes per day (and even more in the holiday season) so a few million more would not pose a big challenge.

    Operation Warp Speed was an incredible program to produce a vaccine in record time but they seem to have completely dropped the ball on distribution. Most of the states are only getting up to speed now when they had many months to be preparing while the vaccines were in development.

    Replies: @danand, @Johann Ricke, @Wilkey

    , @Intelligent Dasein
    @Anonymous

    This seems like a bridge way too far for Amazon, if anyone really wants to press the matter. This is tantamount to Amazon admitting that it was willing to delay and let people die for political reasons.

    Beat this drum. This should not go unnoticed.

  9. @Rosie
    It's no surprise that the very first comment here is a Nanna Nanna boo boo from some juvenile little manosphere jackass.

    But on a more substantive note, what exactly is the objection to Title IX?

    EDIT, not just the first one, but the second one, too.

    How many comments before a normal guy chimes in? Or is it just male chauvinist piglets all the way down?

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Buzz Mohawk, @Intelligent Dasein, @Guy De Champlagne, @Kyle, @Kyle, @Mike Tre, @Neoconned, @Anonymous, @Ben tillman, @Not Only Wrathful, @S. Anonyia, @Old and Grumpy, @Mr. Anon, @TWS, @Bel Riose, @SunBakedSuburb, @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle, @Reg Cæsar, @Rob, @jon, @TruthHammer, @donut, @Unladen Swallow, @Chrisnonymous, @Paperback Writer

    Hey Rosie, I’m not normal, but I’m a guy all the way down, and I think this is funny. Our new president is an idiot who is already doing idiotic things like this.

    Girls and boys, women and men, are different from each other, and they can and should have fun playing sports. Isn’t that all Title IX is about, or should be about?

    We can expect to see more of this dumbed-down presidency. Let’s laugh until Kamala takes over.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Don't call her that. It is like Johnson being called 'Boris' by friend, foe, and MSM alike, which his opponents realized too late was a major advantage for him.

    Replies: @dearieme

    , @Escher
    @Buzz Mohawk

    “President Emhoff to you”, said while nodding head side to side and snapping fingers at the same time in honor of both sides of her ancestry.

    , @nokangaroos
    @Buzz Mohawk


    Let´s laugh until Kamala takes over.
     
    Translate: Let´s laugh while we still can :P
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Title IX caused a lot of men's college sports teams to be ended, in order to throw the money at teams for girls, who don't necessarily care about sports as much. Yes, men and women are different, but it's just the usual US Feral Gov't fucking with us, pay no mind.

    , @Anonymous
    @Buzz Mohawk


    Girls and boys, women and men, are different from each other, and they can and should have fun playing sports. Isn’t that all Title IX is about, or should be about?
     
    Are we sure that the phenomenon of women in official sports has really had a positive societal impact? Or was it an early manifestation of “wokeness” and “equalism”?

    Does the promotion of women in segregated sports tend to lessen their admiration of men, at a time when men and women deep down need for men to be admired more?

    End sports segregation.

    , @ben tillman
    @Buzz Mohawk


    Girls and boys, women and men, are different from each other, and they can and should have fun playing sports. Isn’t that all Title IX is about, or should be about?
     
    No, that's not what Title IX is about. Title IX is about education.

    Title IX provides,

    No person in the United States shall, on the basis of sex, be excluded from participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination under any education program or activity receiving Federal financial assistance.

    , @Guest29048
    @Buzz Mohawk

    "Our new president is an idiot who is already doing idiotic things like this."

    No, "Biden" is not "doing" anything as an agent in the usual sense. Biden's mind is not strong enough to handle independent thought. Rather, he is the mouthpiece for a team. We could speculate about who is on that team, or whether it has a fixed roster, but presumably the team answers ultimately to a board of directors, with Obama as the puppet-master.

    Forcing women's sports to accept MtFs is not "dumb" for anyone on the Left who knows which way the wind is blowing, and which way the arc of history is bending. For them, this policy is just a "no-brainer," not even worth debating.

  10. Since nobody really cares about female sports, which mainly subsist on the coattails of the men, it’s easy to dismiss this issue as insignificant or irrelevant. If, however, a geezer won the women’s tennis Grand Slam that would certainly put the cat amongst the pigeons. But would any man have the chutzpah, not to say the balls, to carry it off? No Serena jokes, please.

    • Agree: Hibernian
    • LOL: mark green
    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @Henry's Cat


    Since nobody really cares about female sports, which mainly subsist on the coattails of the men, it’s easy to dismiss this issue as insignificant or irrelevant. If, however, a geezer won the women’s tennis Grand Slam that would certainly put the cat amongst the pigeons. But would any man have the chutzpah, not to say the balls, to carry it off? No Serena jokes, please.
     
    Yes, it's already happened -- back in the '70's. Here's a white man's take on the spectacle of Dr, Richard Raskind taking on Chris Evert at the US Women's Clay Court Championships in Indianapolis many years ago:

    https://www.whitenationalism.com/cwar/orange.htm

    Here's a Jewish perspective:

    https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/.premium-1977-renee-richards-wins-for-transgender-rights-1.5425096

    A summary of his record playing as a "woman":

    https://db4tennis.com/players/female/renee-richards

    Richards played professionally from 1977 to 1981 when she retired at age 47. She was ranked as high as 20th overall (in February 1979), and her highest ranking at the end of a year was 22nd (in 1977). Her first professional event as a female was the 1977 U.S. Open. Her greatest successes on court were reaching the doubles final at her first U.S. Open in 1977, with Betty Ann Grubb Stuart – the pair lost a close match to Martina Navratilova and Betty Stöve – and winning the 35-and-over women's singles. Richards was twice a semifinalist in mixed doubles, with Ilie Năstase, at the U.S. Open. In 1979, she defeated Nancy Richey for the 35-and-over singles title at the Open. Richards posted wins over Hana Mandlíková, Sylvia Hanika, Virginia Ruzici, and Pam Shriver.
     

    Replies: @Liberty Mike, @Ron Mexico, @Charlesz Martel

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @Henry's Cat

    It must be very tempting for a lower-ranked male player to "transition" (which apparently doesn't mandate hormones or surgery) and start winning tennis tournaments. Though it's not just about muscle - Federer's thighs and Serena's upper arms are about the same size.

    "nobody really cares about female sports, which mainly subsist on the coattails of the men"

    But the "sports" where grace is involved may still see female champions - ice dance anyway. Gymnastics might be another, the floor exercises at least.

    Pity about pole vault, currently with the most fit (in every sense) females.

    One glorious outcome will be the complete replacement of the US Women's Soccer team, at least until they realise no one will want to play them.

    , @Servant of Gla'aki
    @Henry's Cat


    If, however, a geezer won the women’s tennis Grand Slam that would certainly put the cat amongst the pigeons. But would any man have the chutzpah, not to say the balls, to carry it off?
     
    Am I correct that a person can win millions of dollars, in women's tennis matches?

    If so, then yes, we'll be seeing someone attempt this soon enough. Kinda surprising it hasn't happened already, but I feel confident it will occur soon enough to give Biden's administration some well-deserved headaches.
    , @Dave from Oz
    @Henry's Cat


    If, however, a geezer won the women’s tennis Grand Slam that would certainly put the cat amongst the pigeons. But would any man have the chutzpah, not to say the balls, to carry it off?
     
    It's a lot of money. Maybe not as much as the men's competition, but still a lot of money. Totally worth it.
  11. @anon
    Poetic justice. Title IX turned around to chew on itself.

    Perfect!

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @Jake, @Alden, @Reg Cæsar, @The Alarmist

    So Wimmin setting themselves up as parasites upon normal men, turned out to be setting themselves up as Hosts for abnormal men.

    It’s hard not to laugh. So I did.

    btw.Did anybody else catching a little of the Coronation of The Pretender yesterday think how much Washington now had its own Green Zone; where the occupiers could go about the business of looting without catching sight of the rebellious natives?

    • Replies: @EdwardM
    @Bill Jones

    They literally call it the Green Zone. https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/politics/national-politics/inauguration/road-closures-dc-inauguration-day-city-bridges-closed-roads-closed/65-614c8bbb-2bb4-4cee-8181-b0661d014cff

    , @Intelligent Dasein
    @Bill Jones

    I nominate henceforth referring to the White House as the Green Zone.

    Good one. I think it has legs.

  12. Yeah! More videos of “women” athletes flattening other women athletes.
    But hey, we don’t allow this to happen, women will lose all their rights, or something.

  13. Of all the problems facing the USA right now, Biden has consistently prioritised the transgender agenda. I *really* want to know who is behind it. They are extraordinarily good at getting their way.

    • Replies: @unit472
    @photondancer

    Quite! There is no political advantage to promoting 'transgenderism'. It is a minority within a minority. There may have always been 'drag queens' just as there have always been child molesters but no politician, until Joe Biden, saw any advantage to being their 'champion'.

    Oh well, this is what you get when you make a compromised man president.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Dumbo, @Harry Baldwin, @Polistra, @dfordoom

    , @Thoughts
    @photondancer

    Jill Biden

    She likes the pretty dresses and the makeup

    Gays and trannies flatter her

    Replies: @Flip

    , @Mike Tre
    @photondancer

    I would guess big pharma. Each transsexual is a guaranteed lifetime of psych meds, hormones, pain killers, surgeries, therapy, etc. The Pharm might make as much as a million on each single tranny over its lifetime.

    , @Dumbo
    @photondancer

    Jews? I mean, it's no secret that many high-profile "transgenders", including Richard Levine, and the James Pritzker (I refuse to use their female names), are Jewish. Also, this blurring of gender differences is important to them. It's part of the whole trans-humanist concept.

    , @Walsh2
    @photondancer

    The intent is to further divide and demoralize the opposition.

    , @peterike
    @photondancer


    I *really* want to know who is behind it. They are extraordinarily good at getting their way.
     
    Jews. It's simply the next step. Jews are insatiably drawn to decadence. They bring it with them everywhere they go.

    Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin

    , @Michelle
    @photondancer

    In India Trannies ride on subway trains demanding money from passengers. They threaten to hex you if you don't fork over the rupee's. Same thing is happening here.

    Replies: @White Guy In Japan

    , @Getaclue
    @photondancer

    Pritzker Family of Billionaires out of Chicago basically hoisted it on the USA at every level by spending hundreds of millions to do it. They are also mostly responsible for installing Obama -- one of them is a Tranny "Jennifer" but they all are in on it as they are invested in Medical and stand to make a killing off it I read....This gives you an idea of the Billionaires pushing this on children:

    https://thefederalist.com/2018/02/20/rich-white-men-institutionalizing-transgender-ideology/

    https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2020/07/27/how-lgbt-nonprofits-and-their-billionaire-patrons-are-reshaping-the-world/

    Replies: @photondancer

    , @Thea
    @photondancer

    Liberal wealthy white and Jewish women. Those are the voters who respond to the poor victim of (insert group) narrative at the polls.

    It makes them feel special and like they are superheroes saving the downtrodden with their votes.

    , @BenKenobi
    @photondancer

    "The purpose of propaganda is not to persuade but to humiliate. To make the powerless complicit in a lie."

    The purpose is demoralization. You can lose your job for pointing out that a man in a dress is not a woman. You are made complicit in the lie, and this is just one lie of a great many that we are forced to repeat.

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @photondancer

    photon, Pritzker money maybe?

    , @Jeff
    @photondancer

    Well, I can confidently say that they're a religious sect from the desert. Apparently about 2% of the US population. I've seen them wearing funny little hats that offer no sun protection...

    , @Desiderius
    @photondancer

    Same as it ever was. If you want world peace gotta get the birth rates down to the death rates somehow.

    https://jaffememo.com/

    , @Desiderius
    @photondancer

    https://twitter.com/DK_Dharmaraj/status/1352334243041566732?s=20

    , @Anon
    @photondancer

    Jon Stryker, you mean?

    , @Cornbeef
    @photondancer

    The Transgender Industrial Complex book had all of your answers

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/56053510-the-transgender-industrial-complex

    Replies: @photondancer

    , @Dennis Dale
    @photondancer

    We all know the Who, the question is the Why. They are in love with blacks because they know they'll never "achieve equality" and will forever be suffering soulfully, and that's like having a nuclear fuel rod powering the SS Equality.
    But the trans? There are hardly any--or were before they got started, with all this-- which makes the whole project all the more sinister, and they're forcing such abominable shit upon society it's like they're daring us to revolt.

    , @CCZ
    @photondancer

    A good summary of the billionaires behind the "gender identity industry" and what their money buys is found in:

    https://uncommongroundmedia.com/stryker-arcus-billionaires-lgbt/

    https://www.the11thhourblog.com/post/inside-the-gender-identity-industry

    These are 2 of about 16 articles on transgenderism, technology, the "gender identity industry," and even the connections between transgenderism and "transhumanism" that can be found at:

    https://www.the11thhourblog.com/archives

    Replies: @photondancer

  14. Wow.

    This is possibly a big deal.

    Society can pretend that African-Americans have the same average cognitive ability as white Americans. That delusion causes many problems but it is sustainable for many people, with lots of hard work. It is causing massive problems, but that delusion is sustained so far in the public sphere.

    The recent new delusion that males and females have the same average physical abilities at sports is entirely unsustainable. No matter how hard people try to believe it and how strong the pressure/censorship by the mainstream media and internet monopolies, they will not be able to sustain it generally in the public mind.

    This policy change will also piss off the moms and dads of athletically-talented girls, who will now be cut out of sports achievement (since they are not excellent compared to males, with their entirely different body shapes, muscle mass, etc.). Will these parents be allowed to express their displeasure publicly, or will they be harshly censored and vindictively targeted?

    • Replies: @bomag
    @Peter Johnson


    That delusion causes many problems but it is sustainable for many people, with lots of hard work.
     
    It will be the same with transgender-itis: everyone gets a private dressing room; multi-tier ability levels; rules changes; more.

    Replies: @International Jew

    , @International Jew
    @Peter Johnson

    They might start aborting baby girls, following the lead of China and India.

    Alternatively, they might finally realize what's happened to their country.

    , @Anon
    @Peter Johnson

    Long term, in affluent areas, it leads to the rise of private leagues. Doesn’t help with scholarships though.

    , @jb
    @Peter Johnson

    But how often is this actually going to happen?

    That's the usual defense. Transwomen are pretty rare, they aren't all interested in sports, and transitioning does kind of mess them up physically (ya think?), so they aren't all going to be champions. An if occasionally some dude does come along and dominates some particular women's sport the media will just paper over it, the same way they've papered over dudes beating up women in mixed martial arts. Also, I get the impression that most of the women who participate in sports in college participate in team sports, like soccer, and in that case having a guy on your team is a plus for the other team members, not a negative. It's only in individual sports that the problem is really obvious.

    So it matters how often it happens. As long as it's rare the wokesters can get away with demanding that we all play pretend. If it happens a lot then that becomes more difficult.

    Replies: @photondancer

    , @dearieme
    @Peter Johnson

    will they be harshly censored and vindictively targeted?

    Yes. Of course. Natch. You betcha. Zoitanly. How can anyone doubt it?

    What else should happen to fascist, Nazi, genderist scum?

    , @Getaclue
    @Peter Johnson

    If you do some research you will find the parents and girls who protest this lunacy are targeted -- by their Coaches and School Admins etc. most Coaching Associations etc. are all for this.... -- most parents do nothing because they are scared of reprisals and losing their livelihoods etc. -- this the "New Amerika" -- stand up for what is right and you will be destroyed -- Wray's FBI will probably find some way to railroad you too -- call you a "White Supremacist" or whatever it takes -- the FBI is little more than a KGB for the NWO/Dems and blatantly acts that way with no push back. The country is destroyed.

    , @TWS
    @Peter Johnson

    I'm going with shamed and penalized. Lose their job, minor legal troubles.

    , @Forbes
    @Peter Johnson


    Will these parents be allowed to express their displeasure publicly...

     

    Only at the risk of....

    harshly censored and vindictively targeted?
     
    Yes.
    , @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle
    @Peter Johnson

    The only real way to fight this is for real females to stop joining and playing College level sports.

    If they did that the whole house of cards would collapse since there aren't enough of these transgendered males to support a viable female sports team and compete between schools.

    Of course giving up sports for young ladies would be rather difficult since a lot of them rely on sports scholarships to attend college.

    But, why they hand out scholarships for people to play sports seems to be non sequitur.

  15. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Rosie

    Hey Rosie, I'm not normal, but I'm a guy all the way down, and I think this is funny. Our new president is an idiot who is already doing idiotic things like this.

    Girls and boys, women and men, are different from each other, and they can and should have fun playing sports. Isn't that all Title IX is about, or should be about?

    We can expect to see more of this dumbed-down presidency. Let's laugh until Kamala takes over.

    Replies: @Sean, @Escher, @nokangaroos, @Achmed E. Newman, @Anonymous, @ben tillman, @Guest29048

    Don’t call her that. It is like Johnson being called ‘Boris’ by friend, foe, and MSM alike, which his opponents realized too late was a major advantage for him.

    • Replies: @dearieme
    @Sean

    If I referred to Caramel Harlot would anyone know whom I meant?

    If one can't poke fun at a child of privilege - Brahmin mother, Jamaican upper-middle class mulatto father - whom can one poke fun at? It seems too easy to poke fun at the Noodle With No Noddle.

  16. Females getting body-slammed by Males-identifying-as-Females during sportive encounters is something straight out of Wiley Coyotette. It’s dangerous for the female and not appealing to look at.

    Also, the shower scenes just write themselves!

    Meanwhile in the UK:

    A rapist with dick who looks like Bob from Twin Peaks takes a stab at being moved to women’s prison:

    A transwoman who raped a female in an horrific attack has been jailed for 15 years – but could still end up in a women’s prison

    The current 2019 policy states “A balanced approach must be adopted when making allocation, care and management decisions relating to transgender individuals, balancing the risks and well-being of the individual with the risks or impact on well-being that the person may present to others.” Should Winter apply for legal gender recognition, the default option would still be a women’s prison.

    The group who seem to be forgotten in all this are, of course, women in prison. Nowhere does the policy suggest asking female prisoners how they feel when biologically male people with penises are moved in with them, and there certainly is no mention of a veto. Women are expected to accept the decision and not complain.

    LOL

    • Replies: @Calvin Hobbes
    @El Dato

    According to President Joe, the rapist should be entitled to OBGYN.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XljULCGlWpI&feature=emb_logo

    , @stillCARealist
    @El Dato

    For those who have worked in prisons, or have friends and family who do so, you know that those places have tons of sickos who call themselves women just to mess with everybody. They're perverts and predators, and the guards know it. Unfortunately the politicians have no clue what goes on in those places so they'll make decisions and expect prison workers to follow impossible guidelines regarding these psychos.

    what's really needed are more special institutions for such freaks who can't be trusted around women, men, guards, dogs, anything. If we're going to lock people up for criminal behavior, we need to be able to keep them safe from each other and actually give them the environment that's appropriate. I guess I'd say this goes for truly effeminate men in prison too. They must face constant threat.

    Replies: @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle

    , @Anonymous
    @El Dato


    A rapist with dick who looks like Bob from Twin Peaks
     
    Haha! He really does!
  17. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Rosie

    Hey Rosie, I'm not normal, but I'm a guy all the way down, and I think this is funny. Our new president is an idiot who is already doing idiotic things like this.

    Girls and boys, women and men, are different from each other, and they can and should have fun playing sports. Isn't that all Title IX is about, or should be about?

    We can expect to see more of this dumbed-down presidency. Let's laugh until Kamala takes over.

    Replies: @Sean, @Escher, @nokangaroos, @Achmed E. Newman, @Anonymous, @ben tillman, @Guest29048

    “President Emhoff to you”, said while nodding head side to side and snapping fingers at the same time in honor of both sides of her ancestry.

  18. @Rosie
    It's no surprise that the very first comment here is a Nanna Nanna boo boo from some juvenile little manosphere jackass.

    But on a more substantive note, what exactly is the objection to Title IX?

    EDIT, not just the first one, but the second one, too.

    How many comments before a normal guy chimes in? Or is it just male chauvinist piglets all the way down?

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Buzz Mohawk, @Intelligent Dasein, @Guy De Champlagne, @Kyle, @Kyle, @Mike Tre, @Neoconned, @Anonymous, @Ben tillman, @Not Only Wrathful, @S. Anonyia, @Old and Grumpy, @Mr. Anon, @TWS, @Bel Riose, @SunBakedSuburb, @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle, @Reg Cæsar, @Rob, @jon, @TruthHammer, @donut, @Unladen Swallow, @Chrisnonymous, @Paperback Writer

    I’m actually rather sad, and very sorry to all the girls in the land.

    I think it’s time to begin gently telling our daughters that they won’t be going to college.

    • Replies: @Bostonvegas
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Glad my three daughters got their scholarships before Logan and Wyatt decided they were girls all along due to misgendering by nazi doctors

    , @anonymous as usual
    @Intelligent Dasein

    To be fair you can go to college and NOT PARTICIPATE IN COLLEGE SPORTS. Live on campus or live off campus, you can play organized sports with the locals.

    The townie sports are much more fun, and without the elitist garbage.

  19. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Rosie

    Hey Rosie, I'm not normal, but I'm a guy all the way down, and I think this is funny. Our new president is an idiot who is already doing idiotic things like this.

    Girls and boys, women and men, are different from each other, and they can and should have fun playing sports. Isn't that all Title IX is about, or should be about?

    We can expect to see more of this dumbed-down presidency. Let's laugh until Kamala takes over.

    Replies: @Sean, @Escher, @nokangaroos, @Achmed E. Newman, @Anonymous, @ben tillman, @Guest29048

    Let´s laugh until Kamala takes over.

    Translate: Let´s laugh while we still can 😛

  20. Anyone remember the Looney Left and the Bananas Republic.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loony_left

  21. @Rosie
    It's no surprise that the very first comment here is a Nanna Nanna boo boo from some juvenile little manosphere jackass.

    But on a more substantive note, what exactly is the objection to Title IX?

    EDIT, not just the first one, but the second one, too.

    How many comments before a normal guy chimes in? Or is it just male chauvinist piglets all the way down?

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Buzz Mohawk, @Intelligent Dasein, @Guy De Champlagne, @Kyle, @Kyle, @Mike Tre, @Neoconned, @Anonymous, @Ben tillman, @Not Only Wrathful, @S. Anonyia, @Old and Grumpy, @Mr. Anon, @TWS, @Bel Riose, @SunBakedSuburb, @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle, @Reg Cæsar, @Rob, @jon, @TruthHammer, @donut, @Unladen Swallow, @Chrisnonymous, @Paperback Writer

    Title IX combined with the fact that men are better a sports means that a woman gets more sports program and scholarship funding than an equally skilled man. And, what disturbs even more people, is that Title IX combined with the fact that men are more interested in sports results in male teams getting cut entirely.

    And then there’s a whole bunch of other reasons that men should hate feminism so that even if they don’t care about sports or hate jocks they should still be opposed to Title IX.

    • Agree: Thea, fatmanscoop
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Guy De Champlagne

    How the hell I could agree completely with Mr. Champlagne is what I want to know. Agree.

    Replies: @Jack Armstrong

    , @Rosie
    @Guy De Champlagne


    Title IX combined with the fact that men are better a sports means that a woman gets more sports program and scholarship funding than an equally skilled man.
     
    If you have a problem with 50/50, what percentage of athletic budgets do you think should be allocated to women’s sports? 25%, 10%, or were you thinking more along the lines of a 100/0 split?

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @TelfoedJohn, @ben tillman, @GamecockJerry, @Mike Tre, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @TheMan, @Guy De Champlagne, @Paperback Writer, @JR Ewing

    , @Rosie
    @Guy De Champlagne


    And then there’s a whole bunch of other reasons that men should hate feminism so that even if they don’t care about sports or hate jocks they should still be opposed to Title IX.
     
    Yes, I often get the impression that your average Unz piglet thinks no more deeply than that.

    Feminism bad.

    It reminds me of GOPe stooges screeching "That's socialism" about any government expenditure not aimed at helping billionaires.

    Replies: @Getaclue

    , @Wilkey
    @Guy De Champlagne


    Title IX combined with the fact that men are better a sports means that a woman gets more sports program and scholarship funding than an equally skilled man.
     
    Not exactly. The problem is that football uses up so many scholarships (something like 80 or so) that it doesn’t leave room for many other male sports teams. So for the number of male athletes to equal the number of female athletes they end up doing away with mens gymnastics, tennis, volleyball, etc.

    What that doesn’t account for is that football often actually makes money for the school, either directly or by attracting a lot of donations, whereas most of the other sports don’t.
    , @Anonymous
    @Guy De Champlagne


    And, what disturbs even more people, is that Title IX combined with the fact that men are more interested in sports results in male teams getting cut entirely.
     
    I've never seen women play sports together just for fun outside of some social, organized setting.

    Men who are complete strangers to each other will, for example, congregate at public basketball courts to play pickup basketball games with each other.

    Replies: @Alice in Wonderland

    , @Forbes
    @Guy De Champlagne

    It's not about spending on or promoting women's sports, it's about defunding and canceling men's sports.

    In the feminism rule book, any advantage men have, relative to women, is unfair, per se discrimination, and must be eliminated. Any advantage women have, relative to men, is due to the natural superiority of women--and should be encouraged.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    , @Bragadocious
    @Guy De Champlagne

    True.

    All you have to do is look at golf. College golf scholarships are given out to women who pretty much can't break 80. Men who don't average 74 or 75 have no chance for a free ride and may end up as servers at Olive Garden. This is discrimination. And since golf isn't solely about power, and women get to play from forward tees, you can't blame this on biology or the male strength advantage.

  22. Talking of female champions, when are we going to find out who shot Ashli Babbitt?

    • Agree: Old Prude
    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @Henry's Cat

    http://images.gawker.com/18m8c8nauij5lpng/original.png

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    , @Anonymous
    @Henry's Cat

    Uncomfortable shades of 'Who Framed Roger Rabbit?'.

    , @Morton's toes
    @Henry's Cat

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/08/23/1d/08231dd696b7bb809e28d1b3de9618f0.gif

    , @Ron Mexico
    @Henry's Cat

    Sites that have since been labeled "misinformation" by corporations that deal in misinformation claimed it was David Bailey. To quote Tim Pool, "I dunno, man."

  23. @Clyde
    These girls and women don't want a guy in their locker room and showers.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Lot, @guest007, @Forbes, @Servant of Gla'aki, @Desiderius, @Bite Moi, @Bartleby the Scrivner, @Truth

    Yeah, well a lot of us don’t want a lot of stuff.

    Feral Gov’t messing with your life, ladies?

    • Replies: @Do You Even Lift
    @Achmed E. Newman

    OT: Achmed, I find most of your comments amusing, so I checked out your website and liked it, lots of clever and funny stuff, but there was one major problem: Your post about the more-than-ample derriere attached to the woman on the treadmill at your gym had an interior photo taken at Orange Theory. Please tell me that this is just some stock photo that you grabbed off the net, and you aren't actually a member there. For iSteve readers unfamiliar with the world of physical fitness (Which I would guess is around 90%, because snarkiness inversely correlates with strength and vigor. If there ever is a real-world iSteve get-together, it will be BYOR. Bring Your Own Rascal), Orange Theory is a feminized, foo-foo, suburban Soccer Mom "gym" that is all cardio, no weights. Oh wait, they do have some 5-pound dumbells that you can attempt to curl while you text your lunch order to the Whole Foods deli. Orange Theory makes Planet Fitness look like Gold's.

    I'll check back at your site in a couple days, if you can post a pic of yourself at a real gym, bench pressing your bodyweight for reps (Or squatting 1.5 x bodyweight), I'll become a regular reader.
    And btw, my own physical-to-mental-strength comparison would be something like this: (Read it in a Russian accent) "Strong like bull, smart like tractor!"

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Trinity

  24. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Rosie

    Hey Rosie, I'm not normal, but I'm a guy all the way down, and I think this is funny. Our new president is an idiot who is already doing idiotic things like this.

    Girls and boys, women and men, are different from each other, and they can and should have fun playing sports. Isn't that all Title IX is about, or should be about?

    We can expect to see more of this dumbed-down presidency. Let's laugh until Kamala takes over.

    Replies: @Sean, @Escher, @nokangaroos, @Achmed E. Newman, @Anonymous, @ben tillman, @Guest29048

    Title IX caused a lot of men’s college sports teams to be ended, in order to throw the money at teams for girls, who don’t necessarily care about sports as much. Yes, men and women are different, but it’s just the usual US Feral Gov’t fucking with us, pay no mind.

    • Agree: Ben tillman, Buffalo Joe
  25. @Guy De Champlagne
    @Rosie

    Title IX combined with the fact that men are better a sports means that a woman gets more sports program and scholarship funding than an equally skilled man. And, what disturbs even more people, is that Title IX combined with the fact that men are more interested in sports results in male teams getting cut entirely.

    And then there's a whole bunch of other reasons that men should hate feminism so that even if they don't care about sports or hate jocks they should still be opposed to Title IX.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Rosie, @Rosie, @Wilkey, @Anonymous, @Forbes, @Bragadocious

    How the hell I could agree completely with Mr. Champlagne is what I want to know. Agree.

    • Agree: bomag
    • Replies: @Jack Armstrong
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Strange days indeed.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  26. Well, the idea of women’s sports was ind of silly to begin with. With a few exceptions: figure skating, gymnastics (well, before it became a contest with drug-addled genetically modified mutant teens), perhaps beach volleyball, horse riding and a few others.

    Most other sport activities masculinize women’s bodies, and are not that great to watch anyway. Female basketball in particular is grotesque. Swimming also seems to change women’s bodies, they have strange shoulders and no breasts.

    In this sense, having transgender freaks competing is just the logical extension; why masculinize female bodies, why not just get a masculine body and say “it’s a woman”? Problem solved.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @Dumbo

    Women's tennis is quite good and also popular with older male viewers, particularly when the players are bending over waiting to receive serve with tanned thighs that could crack nuts, and pristine, but sweaty white panties stretched tautly over their clenched buttocks.

    But eunuchs do not have quite the same appeal.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Buzz Mohawk

    , @Curle
    @Dumbo

    Saw Hope Solo in person once. She was a total babe! Bad choice in men, but that’s another matter.

    Replies: @Morton's toes, @jon

    , @notsaying
    @Dumbo

    You are judging women's sports on what you want to watch and how they change women's bodies.

    Shouldn't we judge them on what women want to play?

    I don't watch any men's sports regularly. Does that mean men's sports should be eliminated? I would say no. I don't see why biological males should be allowed to ruin women's sports for them. I don't understand why these guys who "win" in women's sports feel they have accomplished anything. I was brought up to believe that without fairness, winning is less than nothing.

    Instituting a system that allows for legal cheating just makes a mockery of women's sports.

    Replies: @anon, @Dumbo

  27. @Peter Johnson
    Wow.

    This is possibly a big deal.

    Society can pretend that African-Americans have the same average cognitive ability as white Americans. That delusion causes many problems but it is sustainable for many people, with lots of hard work. It is causing massive problems, but that delusion is sustained so far in the public sphere.

    The recent new delusion that males and females have the same average physical abilities at sports is entirely unsustainable. No matter how hard people try to believe it and how strong the pressure/censorship by the mainstream media and internet monopolies, they will not be able to sustain it generally in the public mind.

    This policy change will also piss off the moms and dads of athletically-talented girls, who will now be cut out of sports achievement (since they are not excellent compared to males, with their entirely different body shapes, muscle mass, etc.). Will these parents be allowed to express their displeasure publicly, or will they be harshly censored and vindictively targeted?

    Replies: @bomag, @International Jew, @Anon, @jb, @dearieme, @Getaclue, @TWS, @Forbes, @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle

    That delusion causes many problems but it is sustainable for many people, with lots of hard work.

    It will be the same with transgender-itis: everyone gets a private dressing room; multi-tier ability levels; rules changes; more.

    • Replies: @International Jew
    @bomag

    That won't solve the problem. Girls playing soccer and basketball (to say nothing of wrestling) with boys will get physically injured. That's a lot more serious than the likes of Michelle Obama feeling inadequate around Princeton classmates with 30 IQ points on her.

    Replies: @Cortes, @bomag

  28. D’ya think some Harris/Biden voters might be rethinking their wokeness?

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @James Speaks

    D’ya think some Harris/Biden voters might be rethinking their wokeness?

    Only if they never thought in the first place. Biden was very clear about his support for transgenders, including allowing "women with penises" the option to to serve their time in women's prisons.

  29. @Rosie
    It's no surprise that the very first comment here is a Nanna Nanna boo boo from some juvenile little manosphere jackass.

    But on a more substantive note, what exactly is the objection to Title IX?

    EDIT, not just the first one, but the second one, too.

    How many comments before a normal guy chimes in? Or is it just male chauvinist piglets all the way down?

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Buzz Mohawk, @Intelligent Dasein, @Guy De Champlagne, @Kyle, @Kyle, @Mike Tre, @Neoconned, @Anonymous, @Ben tillman, @Not Only Wrathful, @S. Anonyia, @Old and Grumpy, @Mr. Anon, @TWS, @Bel Riose, @SunBakedSuburb, @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle, @Reg Cæsar, @Rob, @jon, @TruthHammer, @donut, @Unladen Swallow, @Chrisnonymous, @Paperback Writer

    The last time I was in an airport the university of Iowa girls field hockey team walked by me. The were all sub 5’5” and +150 lbs. They were all short, fat, snot nosed, and pimply faced. They all resembled 14 year olds even though I’m sure they must have been 18-21. There was no intensity or focus in their demeanor, it was just a giggling gaggle of plump juvenile females. Which is fine, but when you start reconciling that with the reality of what you’re seeing it starts to seem ridiculous. Their parents are paying tens of thousands of dollars for them to attend a large state school, and they’re flying around the country to play what’s essentially a children’s game. We’ve cut boys soccer & cross country for this? Something doesn’t seem quite right. You see impressive female athletes on TV, such as track runners or distance swimmers, so it’s jarring to see the reality of female athleticism up close.

    • Replies: @dearieme
    @Kyle

    what’s essentially a children’s game

    You reckon? How much hockey have you played?

    , @Jack D
    @Kyle


    and they’re flying around the country to play what’s essentially a children’s game.
     
    Field hockey is no more and no less a "children's game" than any other sport. In many parts of the world it is played by men. I suppose in the US the men's version is mostly crowded out by ice hockey and by lacrosse.

    You can object to almost ALL sports on the grounds that they are mere children's games. The thing is that there is vastly more demand among spectators and the players to watch and participate in certain children's games vs others, but Title IX substitutes government micromanagement for the judgment of the marketplace.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Dissident, @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    , @Spud Boy
    @Kyle

    "Their parents are paying tens of thousands of dollars for them to attend a large state school..."

    No, they probably have field hockey scholarships, making the situation even more ludicrous.

    , @Paperback Writer
    @Kyle

    I actually looked up the roster of the U of Iowa women's field hockey team. Anyone who is interested can look it up themselves. They are all white girls with trim bodies, mostly with long hair, pretty to OK faces, like most of us.

    One of them is English, which I think interesting.

    I think Kyle is full of shit.

    Replies: @Lurker

    , @Truth
    @Kyle


    The last time I was in an airport the university of Iowa girls field hockey team walked by me. The were all sub 5’5” and +150 lbs. They were all short, fat, snot nosed, and pimply faced. They all resembled 14 year olds even though I’m sure they must have been 18-21.
     
    Let's go to the videotape...

    https://hawkeyesports.com/news/2019/10/26/fh-iowa-2-northwestern-1/

    Replies: @HFR

  30. Biden has been the accelerationist the prophecy said would come.

    Don’t worry guys, one step back for a few forward or something like that, right?

  31. @Henry's Cat
    Talking of female champions, when are we going to find out who shot Ashli Babbitt?

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Anonymous, @Morton's toes, @Ron Mexico

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @HammerJack

    Heh! That's the second New Yorker cartoon I get, Hammer Jack. (Here's the other one.) I should just up and move to the Upper West Side now.

    Replies: @candid_observer

  32. @Ron Mexico
    @Rosie

    Heather Swanson approves!

    Replies: @HammerJack

    Nitwits like Rosie are exactly why we’re in this mess.

    • Troll: Rosie
    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @HammerJack

    "why we're in this mess"

    White men folded and passed the power to the brown and black overclass they helped create. White men believed ingrates of colour would lay laurels at their feet for their altruism. As the brand of the black goddess is seared into their flesh white men point their fingers at others and say you're why we're in this mess.

    Replies: @Alden, @Polistra

  33. @photondancer
    Of all the problems facing the USA right now, Biden has consistently prioritised the transgender agenda. I *really* want to know who is behind it. They are extraordinarily good at getting their way.

    Replies: @unit472, @Thoughts, @Mike Tre, @Dumbo, @Walsh2, @peterike, @Michelle, @Getaclue, @Thea, @BenKenobi, @Buffalo Joe, @Jeff, @Desiderius, @Desiderius, @Anon, @Cornbeef, @Dennis Dale, @CCZ

    Quite! There is no political advantage to promoting ‘transgenderism’. It is a minority within a minority. There may have always been ‘drag queens’ just as there have always been child molesters but no politician, until Joe Biden, saw any advantage to being their ‘champion’.

    Oh well, this is what you get when you make a compromised man president.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @unit472

    It's about what the left wants the majority to do, which is to be forced to celebrate this shit as just as good as, or really better than, the nuclear family. They wish to essentially cancel churches who "discriminate" against them. Think of trans as a symbol of the aim to discredit the West, which includes eliminating gender/sex distinctions, and the nuclear family. BLM had the destruction of the nuclear family explicitly in their website.

    When social conservatives, right before Obergefell, said a right to gay marriage would undermine straight marriage, they argued very poorly and pretty much left it at that. I was more naive back then, and it ran counter to even gay people's views that I knew. But here we are. This push probably started around 2013, in beginning of Obama's second term - the whole pedal to the metal on cultural dismantling. (Steve's written a lot about that timing). That's exactly what they want. Not merely "rights" for that tiny minority, you're right. It's a sleight of hand to impose as "cultural" what is really political, and radically political. Same reason "racist" is the worst possible thing anyone can be.

    , @Dumbo
    @unit472


    Quite! There is no political advantage to promoting ‘transgenderism’. It is a minority within a minority.
     
    I think most people don't understand how important transgenderism is to the elites, and why. The question is not about "political advantage". Do you think they care about that? The "gay marriage" issue also had little "political advantage" as gays are also a small minority (although, they used the support of women to obtain it, because most women like gays and find them cuddly and, contrary to beta male and incels, they don't make passes at them).

    No, transgenderism and the blurring of the sexes is fundamental to them. Chaos and the destruction of the family are their goals. Demonic inversion is their credo. "Transgender children" is the next step, Biden already said that "8-year old children should be able to choose".

    This what we are up against, demonic androgynes from Hell:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Pritzker

    Replies: @dfordoom, @JR Ewing

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @unit472

    no politician, until Joe Biden, saw any advantage to being their ‘champion’.

    No, if you watch the Democratic primary, every candidate was equally going ho about transgenderism. Perhaps Liz Warren and Cory Booker most of all.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Polistra
    @unit472


    There is no political advantage to promoting ‘transgenderism’.
     
    Oh, but there is, if your goal is to wreck an established nation.

    Every little bit of destruction counts, and they have a lot.

    , @dfordoom
    @unit472


    There is no political advantage to promoting ‘transgenderism’.
     
    There's a huge political advantage in kicking the daylights out of conservative Christians. Conservative Christians are Republican voters.

    There's a huge political advantage in getting issues like the debt, unemployment, trade, economic conditions for the working class, the slow decline of the lower middle class and the power of the Tech Giants off the front pages.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  34. @Rosie
    It's no surprise that the very first comment here is a Nanna Nanna boo boo from some juvenile little manosphere jackass.

    But on a more substantive note, what exactly is the objection to Title IX?

    EDIT, not just the first one, but the second one, too.

    How many comments before a normal guy chimes in? Or is it just male chauvinist piglets all the way down?

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Buzz Mohawk, @Intelligent Dasein, @Guy De Champlagne, @Kyle, @Kyle, @Mike Tre, @Neoconned, @Anonymous, @Ben tillman, @Not Only Wrathful, @S. Anonyia, @Old and Grumpy, @Mr. Anon, @TWS, @Bel Riose, @SunBakedSuburb, @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle, @Reg Cæsar, @Rob, @jon, @TruthHammer, @donut, @Unladen Swallow, @Chrisnonymous, @Paperback Writer

    I don’t know what the answer is for equalizing the opportunity for scholarships between boys & girls. I don’t claim to have the answer for that. I don’t want to disparage title 9, I understand where the proponents are coming from. But, look up the participation rates in high school sports. In general, a greater number of males are more interested in playing sports than females. Something just doesn’t feel quite right. It’s problematic, & troubling that mens cross country & soccer teams are cut for women’s field hockey teams. In most cases women’s field hockey should be a club sport.

  35. OTish:

    Things like ‘Black Lives Matter’ being all over company websites since May had me and the guy who started this thread wondering when it’d end, if it could end. (How and when do you go from posting about ‘systemic racism’ to going back to advertising new limited editions of Cheetos?)

    It turns out the day of the inauguration is that time. Reddit is back to having an orange rather than black logo too.Though contra the first joke entry, Kickstarter still have #BlackLivesMatter in it’s header.

    https://twitter.com/MorlockP/status/1351987362901929984

  36. @photondancer
    Of all the problems facing the USA right now, Biden has consistently prioritised the transgender agenda. I *really* want to know who is behind it. They are extraordinarily good at getting their way.

    Replies: @unit472, @Thoughts, @Mike Tre, @Dumbo, @Walsh2, @peterike, @Michelle, @Getaclue, @Thea, @BenKenobi, @Buffalo Joe, @Jeff, @Desiderius, @Desiderius, @Anon, @Cornbeef, @Dennis Dale, @CCZ

    Jill Biden

    She likes the pretty dresses and the makeup

    Gays and trannies flatter her

    • Replies: @Flip
    @Thoughts

    I am thinking she’s the one who is really in charge now.

  37. Biteme just solved my gambling problem. From now on I’m just going to bet on the chick with the beard and rake in the cash.

  38. I would say it’ll be interesting to see how far the impacts of this will go. Are there really enough guys who will do this to make a big impact? So far the numbers seem small enough that though it has ruined lots of individual female athletes dreams, it seems just that, not a systemic destruction of women’s sports.

    Most MtF who are younger tend to be the effeminate type and are going on medical transition earlier and earlier so they’re unlikely to be highly competitive even if they had an interest in sport.

    The marines in dresses brigade seem to mostly transition later, after the peak of athletic performance, even assuming they have an interest in competing in women’s sports.

    Though there have been some egregious examples like the huge guy who switched to women’s rugby in a move that seemed genuinely unsafe.

    • Replies: @Jake
    @Altai

    According to Trannie faith today, you are what you assert sexually, even if you never get a shingle hormone shot, much less a surgery. If that is upheld, then a bunch of enterprising guys not good enough for tennis, golf, lacrosse, soccer etc scholarships should proclaim themselves women and sue if they do not get scholarships.

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @photondancer, @Guy Cabellero

    , @peterike
    @Altai


    I would say it’ll be interesting to see how far the impacts of this will go. Are there really enough guys who will do this to make a big impact?
     
    With enough laudatory media coverage, it could turn into a preference cascade. Like Steve has written about anorexia, many of these trends are media driven. And given social media amplification these days, this could easily become "a thing." You might even get some straight boys LARPing to get onto the girls team, into the locker room, etc.
    , @Thoughts
    @Altai

    If there's one thing I've learned...the number of crazy/evil people is limitless

  39. @Rosie
    It's no surprise that the very first comment here is a Nanna Nanna boo boo from some juvenile little manosphere jackass.

    But on a more substantive note, what exactly is the objection to Title IX?

    EDIT, not just the first one, but the second one, too.

    How many comments before a normal guy chimes in? Or is it just male chauvinist piglets all the way down?

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Buzz Mohawk, @Intelligent Dasein, @Guy De Champlagne, @Kyle, @Kyle, @Mike Tre, @Neoconned, @Anonymous, @Ben tillman, @Not Only Wrathful, @S. Anonyia, @Old and Grumpy, @Mr. Anon, @TWS, @Bel Riose, @SunBakedSuburb, @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle, @Reg Cæsar, @Rob, @jon, @TruthHammer, @donut, @Unladen Swallow, @Chrisnonymous, @Paperback Writer

    “But on a more substantive note, what exactly is the objection to Title IX?”

    It’s blatant anti male discrimination, you ditz.

    Can someone call Mr. Rosie, and let him know that his wife has wandered out of the kitchen again? she may have even put on shoes.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Mike Tre


    It’s blatant anti male discrimination, you ditz.
     
    Aw boohoo, little Mikey doesn't like having to share.

    Replies: @Jim Christian, @Mike Tre, @Alice in Wonderland

    , @additionalMike
    @Mike Tre

    Title IX is only discriminatory towards men if it is interpreted to mean that there must be absolute parity between male and female participation in sports. This was the Obama-administration mangling the statute to mean what they wanted it to mean, with no regard for the plain wording of the statute, which is quite clear.
    It forbids discrimination. That's all.

  40. @Peter Johnson
    Wow.

    This is possibly a big deal.

    Society can pretend that African-Americans have the same average cognitive ability as white Americans. That delusion causes many problems but it is sustainable for many people, with lots of hard work. It is causing massive problems, but that delusion is sustained so far in the public sphere.

    The recent new delusion that males and females have the same average physical abilities at sports is entirely unsustainable. No matter how hard people try to believe it and how strong the pressure/censorship by the mainstream media and internet monopolies, they will not be able to sustain it generally in the public mind.

    This policy change will also piss off the moms and dads of athletically-talented girls, who will now be cut out of sports achievement (since they are not excellent compared to males, with their entirely different body shapes, muscle mass, etc.). Will these parents be allowed to express their displeasure publicly, or will they be harshly censored and vindictively targeted?

    Replies: @bomag, @International Jew, @Anon, @jb, @dearieme, @Getaclue, @TWS, @Forbes, @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle

    They might start aborting baby girls, following the lead of China and India.

    Alternatively, they might finally realize what’s happened to their country.

  41. @photondancer
    Of all the problems facing the USA right now, Biden has consistently prioritised the transgender agenda. I *really* want to know who is behind it. They are extraordinarily good at getting their way.

    Replies: @unit472, @Thoughts, @Mike Tre, @Dumbo, @Walsh2, @peterike, @Michelle, @Getaclue, @Thea, @BenKenobi, @Buffalo Joe, @Jeff, @Desiderius, @Desiderius, @Anon, @Cornbeef, @Dennis Dale, @CCZ

    I would guess big pharma. Each transsexual is a guaranteed lifetime of psych meds, hormones, pain killers, surgeries, therapy, etc. The Pharm might make as much as a million on each single tranny over its lifetime.

  42. @bomag
    @Peter Johnson


    That delusion causes many problems but it is sustainable for many people, with lots of hard work.
     
    It will be the same with transgender-itis: everyone gets a private dressing room; multi-tier ability levels; rules changes; more.

    Replies: @International Jew

    That won’t solve the problem. Girls playing soccer and basketball (to say nothing of wrestling) with boys will get physically injured. That’s a lot more serious than the likes of Michelle Obama feeling inadequate around Princeton classmates with 30 IQ points on her.

    • Replies: @Cortes
    @International Jew

    I agree completely.

    Since the officiating by a team of all-female referees of the European “Supercup” game Liverpool vs Chelsea a couple of years ago, when there was great amusement among players, coaches and technical staff about the inability of the ref and lineswomen to “keep up with play” *, the mismatch in athleticism has, regularly, been there for those with eyes to see in televised matches. As players? No chance.

    * The “fourth official” who doesn’t have any running to do, was 6.5/10.

    , @bomag
    @International Jew

    I'm thinking the contact sports will fade away, or become all trans. Or will be club sports, and when the trans show up, it melts away to be formed elsewhere for as long as the trans can be avoided.

    Softball, volleyball, tennis, etc. will be tiered.

    I recall a bar conversation over the local women's softball league. Someone asked what was the difference between the A league and the B league; "if you look like a dyke, you play A."

  43. Maybe we were all better off before girls sports became a big thing. Even playing against other girls, girl soccer and basketball players suffer way more than their share of concussions and fractures. And then there’s track where once we had sensible limits on girls’ distance events but now we tempt girls to train themselves into amenorrhea.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @International Jew

    There's no need to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Ballerinas suffer more starvation and overtraining-related health problems than women athletes. The solution is to have realistic expectations, not abolish ballet. Of course, I rather suspect than attempt to enact legislation to protect ballerinas would be met with the usual decision around the parts (nanny state, women don't want to be held accountable, blah blah, blah on and on).

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ballerinas-health/ballerinas-face-health-hazards-idUSTRE5535PA20090604

    Replies: @Alden, @Jack D

    , @S. Anonyia
    @International Jew

    Sensible limits on women’s distance events? Are you referring to the absurd ban on women running more than 200 meters after some pansy Olympic officials got horrified that the women competing in the 1928 800 were breathing too heavily?

    Running is one the best activities possible for a woman; prevents osteoporosis, makes it easier to physically bear children, and lowers the risk of various cancers.

    Only a small percentage of elite female runners get amenorrhea. Elite male runners are prone to eating disorders, but it doesn’t get much press. Such is the price of being an elite athlete. Lots of elite athletes take harmful steroids too, doesn’t mean we should discourage regular people from participating in sport and striving for physical improvement and well-being.

    Girls running track or cross-country on your typical high school varsity team are among the healthiest in their age groups.

    Also- girls’ sports existed and were even popular long before Title 9. My great-grandmother played high school basketball in the 1920s, and my great-aunt was a competitive swimmer for her all-girls Catholic high school in the early 40s. She even traveled to surrounding states for meets, mostly with other private schools.

    We’d be better off if sports were less of a “big thing” for men, too. It’s true that everything was more casual decades ago.

    Generally I think sports at the youth and high school level are great, but they are problematic at the college level. Should be clubs aside from what is financially sustainable. That would probably only leave a few sports for men and women alike. Y’all overestimate the popularity of men’s sports among spectators beyond football, basketball, baseball, and track/field.

  44. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/even-libertarians-john-brennan-issues-list-biden-intel-community-should-go-after

    Mark my words…..the spooks are reading & monitoring this site & building dossiers….use VPNs etc.

    Godspeed my friends.

  45. @International Jew
    @bomag

    That won't solve the problem. Girls playing soccer and basketball (to say nothing of wrestling) with boys will get physically injured. That's a lot more serious than the likes of Michelle Obama feeling inadequate around Princeton classmates with 30 IQ points on her.

    Replies: @Cortes, @bomag

    I agree completely.

    Since the officiating by a team of all-female referees of the European “Supercup” game Liverpool vs Chelsea a couple of years ago, when there was great amusement among players, coaches and technical staff about the inability of the ref and lineswomen to “keep up with play” *, the mismatch in athleticism has, regularly, been there for those with eyes to see in televised matches. As players? No chance.

    * The “fourth official” who doesn’t have any running to do, was 6.5/10.

  46. @Rosie
    It's no surprise that the very first comment here is a Nanna Nanna boo boo from some juvenile little manosphere jackass.

    But on a more substantive note, what exactly is the objection to Title IX?

    EDIT, not just the first one, but the second one, too.

    How many comments before a normal guy chimes in? Or is it just male chauvinist piglets all the way down?

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Buzz Mohawk, @Intelligent Dasein, @Guy De Champlagne, @Kyle, @Kyle, @Mike Tre, @Neoconned, @Anonymous, @Ben tillman, @Not Only Wrathful, @S. Anonyia, @Old and Grumpy, @Mr. Anon, @TWS, @Bel Riose, @SunBakedSuburb, @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle, @Reg Cæsar, @Rob, @jon, @TruthHammer, @donut, @Unladen Swallow, @Chrisnonymous, @Paperback Writer

    I like corresponding with you on occasion Rosie & i have a daughter so I’m semi sensitive to your concerns…..civilization, if it ever existed in any serious way is coming apart….

    My advice to you for old time sake is…..a) protect yourself and your love ones 1st …2)lower your expectations of men….if we ever had class to start with its on its way out due to high levels of immigration & competition for jobs, women etc

    Things are going to get scary over the coming decade.

    Goodbye sweetheart, i wish you well.

  47. @Peter Johnson
    Wow.

    This is possibly a big deal.

    Society can pretend that African-Americans have the same average cognitive ability as white Americans. That delusion causes many problems but it is sustainable for many people, with lots of hard work. It is causing massive problems, but that delusion is sustained so far in the public sphere.

    The recent new delusion that males and females have the same average physical abilities at sports is entirely unsustainable. No matter how hard people try to believe it and how strong the pressure/censorship by the mainstream media and internet monopolies, they will not be able to sustain it generally in the public mind.

    This policy change will also piss off the moms and dads of athletically-talented girls, who will now be cut out of sports achievement (since they are not excellent compared to males, with their entirely different body shapes, muscle mass, etc.). Will these parents be allowed to express their displeasure publicly, or will they be harshly censored and vindictively targeted?

    Replies: @bomag, @International Jew, @Anon, @jb, @dearieme, @Getaclue, @TWS, @Forbes, @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle

    Long term, in affluent areas, it leads to the rise of private leagues. Doesn’t help with scholarships though.

  48. Anonymous[295] • Disclaimer says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    @Rosie

    Hey Rosie, I'm not normal, but I'm a guy all the way down, and I think this is funny. Our new president is an idiot who is already doing idiotic things like this.

    Girls and boys, women and men, are different from each other, and they can and should have fun playing sports. Isn't that all Title IX is about, or should be about?

    We can expect to see more of this dumbed-down presidency. Let's laugh until Kamala takes over.

    Replies: @Sean, @Escher, @nokangaroos, @Achmed E. Newman, @Anonymous, @ben tillman, @Guest29048

    Girls and boys, women and men, are different from each other, and they can and should have fun playing sports. Isn’t that all Title IX is about, or should be about?

    Are we sure that the phenomenon of women in official sports has really had a positive societal impact? Or was it an early manifestation of “wokeness” and “equalism”?

    Does the promotion of women in segregated sports tend to lessen their admiration of men, at a time when men and women deep down need for men to be admired more?

    End sports segregation.

  49. @anon
    Poetic justice. Title IX turned around to chew on itself.

    Perfect!

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @Jake, @Alden, @Reg Cæsar, @The Alarmist

    I agree. The Feminazis used Title IX to destroy a hundreds of men’s college sports teams so hundreds of women’s teams that absolutely nobody will ever care about could be funded. Now the logic of Feminism as being Pro-Gay having its own logic leading to promotion of sacred transsexualism will allow men pretending to be women to run amuck in women’s sports.

    How low ranked was that man tennis player who dominated Serena Williams?

    • Replies: @Calvin Hobbes
    @Jake


    How low ranked was that man tennis player who dominated Serena Williams?
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karsten_Braasch

    Karsten Braasch (born 14 July 1967) is a German former professional tennis player. His highest ATP singles ranking was World No. 38, which he reached in June 1994. His career-high in doubles was World No. 36, achieved in November 1997.[1] He was well-noted for his service motion and his habit of smoking during changeovers.

    Braasch competed in a "Battle of the Sexes" contest against the Williams sisters (Venus and Serena) at the 1998 Australian Open when he was ranked 203. Braasch was described by one journalist as "a man whose training regime centred around a pack of cigarettes and more than a couple bottles of ice cold lager".[2] He nonetheless defeated both sisters, playing a single set against each, beating Serena 6–1 and Venus 6–2.[3] Braasch was thirty years old at the time, while Venus and Serena were seventeen and sixteen, respectively.
    , @George
    @Jake

    "hundreds of women’s teams that absolutely nobody will ever care about could be funded. "

    But I bet the ladies had more legit credentials as student athletes. Universities running professional minor league sports teams with exploited, often Black, players is wrong IMO.

    If you like rhetorical tricks they could recharacterize the men's teams as open division athletics (open to all athletes) and the women's team as XX division athletics (as in their sex chromosomes.) That is sort of done with downs syndrome athletics.

  50. Anonymous[295] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rosie
    It's no surprise that the very first comment here is a Nanna Nanna boo boo from some juvenile little manosphere jackass.

    But on a more substantive note, what exactly is the objection to Title IX?

    EDIT, not just the first one, but the second one, too.

    How many comments before a normal guy chimes in? Or is it just male chauvinist piglets all the way down?

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Buzz Mohawk, @Intelligent Dasein, @Guy De Champlagne, @Kyle, @Kyle, @Mike Tre, @Neoconned, @Anonymous, @Ben tillman, @Not Only Wrathful, @S. Anonyia, @Old and Grumpy, @Mr. Anon, @TWS, @Bel Riose, @SunBakedSuburb, @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle, @Reg Cæsar, @Rob, @jon, @TruthHammer, @donut, @Unladen Swallow, @Chrisnonymous, @Paperback Writer

    How many comments before a normal guy chimes in? Or is it just male chauvinist piglets all the way down?

    I am not convinced that gender segregation in sports is a good thing at the societal level. I am also not convinced that the promotion of female participation in official sports is a good thing for females, males, or for society overall.

  51. @Altai
    I would say it'll be interesting to see how far the impacts of this will go. Are there really enough guys who will do this to make a big impact? So far the numbers seem small enough that though it has ruined lots of individual female athletes dreams, it seems just that, not a systemic destruction of women's sports.

    Most MtF who are younger tend to be the effeminate type and are going on medical transition earlier and earlier so they're unlikely to be highly competitive even if they had an interest in sport.

    The marines in dresses brigade seem to mostly transition later, after the peak of athletic performance, even assuming they have an interest in competing in women's sports.

    Though there have been some egregious examples like the huge guy who switched to women's rugby in a move that seemed genuinely unsafe.

    Replies: @Jake, @peterike, @Thoughts

    According to Trannie faith today, you are what you assert sexually, even if you never get a shingle hormone shot, much less a surgery. If that is upheld, then a bunch of enterprising guys not good enough for tennis, golf, lacrosse, soccer etc scholarships should proclaim themselves women and sue if they do not get scholarships.

    • Agree: Daniel Chieh
    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    @Jake

    Hardcore trolling is the world we deserve.

    , @photondancer
    @Jake

    That's already been happening for the past year, maybe longer.

    , @Guy Cabellero
    @Jake

    I'm waiting for some NCAA women's coach to convince a bunch of NAIA level players to assert that they're women, and then beat UConn by 60 in the finals.

  52. On WWT, the BLM insanity and so on, I’ve basically concluded that the public needs to get these policies good and hard for an extended period of time before a critical mass of people are fed up enough for it to be worthwhile for politicians to make changes.

    We have much further to fall as a society before there is any hope for a rebound.

    • Replies: @Frank McGar
    @Arclight

    Agree. It hasn't hit home yet. People need to see it in action, to the point where it's affecting them directly. Right now it's just a feelgood policy that makes woke white people feel like they are being more inclusive. You like inclusivity Becky? Get ready!!!

    , @jon
    @Arclight


    We have much further to fall as a society before there is any hope for a rebound.
     
    Just look at the Scandinavian countries if you want to see how much further we can fall before there is any rebound.

    Replies: @Johann Ricke

    , @JosephB
    @Arclight


    On WWT, the BLM insanity and so on, I’ve basically concluded that the public needs to get these policies good and hard for an extended period of time before a critical mass of people are fed up enough for it to be worthwhile for politicians to make changes.
     
    Yep. I've moved to a "pass the popcorn" mentality.
  53. As I said somewhere else, Biden’s platform so far seems to be about two things:

    – Eliminate “domestic terrorists” (i.e. white people not aligned to woke progressivism)
    – Transexuals über alles (he’s on record saying that 8-year old children should “decide” if they want to be transgenders or not)

    Trump was not a good leader, he abandoned people who would go for him anywhere, and in the end was far more for MIGA than for MAGA, but he made millions of people realize the full extension of the Swamp.

    I think many people are still in shock after realizing the full extent of corruption and degeneration in the U.S. (and in the world). As the Kamala-Biden train wreck advances, and corona psy-ops gets even more authoritarian, and the transgender cause goes full-speed, this is going to become even clearer.

    “Fasten your seatbelts, gentlemen, it’s going to be a bumpy decade” (Bette Davis)

  54. @photondancer
    Of all the problems facing the USA right now, Biden has consistently prioritised the transgender agenda. I *really* want to know who is behind it. They are extraordinarily good at getting their way.

    Replies: @unit472, @Thoughts, @Mike Tre, @Dumbo, @Walsh2, @peterike, @Michelle, @Getaclue, @Thea, @BenKenobi, @Buffalo Joe, @Jeff, @Desiderius, @Desiderius, @Anon, @Cornbeef, @Dennis Dale, @CCZ

    Jews? I mean, it’s no secret that many high-profile “transgenders”, including Richard Levine, and the James Pritzker (I refuse to use their female names), are Jewish. Also, this blurring of gender differences is important to them. It’s part of the whole trans-humanist concept.

  55. If Cristiano Ronaldo decides to cut off his dick so that he can prolong his career for a few more years, Portugal will have a serious chance of winning the women’s soccer World Cup.

    Christine Ronaldo could break all kinds of records in the women’s game, like scoring a dozen goals in a single game with his left foot.

    • Replies: @Travis
    @Jonathan Mason

    It will be tempting for some male tennis players to declare themselves female to play in Wimbledon or the US Open , since the prize money is equal to the men's tournaments. A man ranked 150th in the world would easily dominate and win all the grand slam events each year against the female competition. No need to have surgery , just state that you always felt like a little girl inside, wear a nice wig and put on some make-up.

    , @Jeff
    @Jonathan Mason

    Well, that might make it worth watching a women's soccer game. Because as it is now, it's a total snoozefest.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    , @Brutusale
    @Jonathan Mason

    The reality is not just a female-identified Cristiano Ronaldo dominating a women's game, but that the last 20 guys they cut from the Portuguese National Team would basically be just as dominant.

    , @Anon7
    @Jonathan Mason

    Forget Christine Ronaldo; the Australian national Women's Soccer Team (ranked 5th in the world) was beaten 7-0 in a game against fifteen year-old boys in 2016.

    , @HA
    @Jonathan Mason

    "If Cristiano Ronaldo decides to cut off his..."

    Would he need to cut off anything? If so, that would imply that those who choose not to undergo any surgery are to be denied the ability to live out their desired gender, and that the biological determinists were right all along.

    , @Ghost of Bull Moose
    @Jonathan Mason

    Why does he have to cut off his dick? Michelle 0bama didn’t cut off her dick. Actually, I don’t care if she did or she didn’t cut off her dick, Imma refer to her as a woman because I am polite.

    , @Ghost of Bull Moose
    @Jonathan Mason

    Why does he have to cut off his dick? Michelle 0bama didn’t cut off her dick. Actually, I don’t care if she did or she didn’t cut off her dick, Imma refer to her as a woman because I am polite.

  56. The problem is all these discussions are becoming boring. The Covid-Lockdown has gone on almost a year and made life miserable. It facilitated the Biden election and Dem takeover of all three branches of government too.

    So what are we talking about? It’s pretty much all over for a while. The Left (or Neo-Liberals) will get what they want. Critiquing the Establishment is an exercise in time-wasting.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    @RichardTaylor


    It’s pretty much all over for a while.
     
    Or as I heard it put, "They've ruined everything, everywhere, for everybody."
  57. @Guy De Champlagne
    @Rosie

    Title IX combined with the fact that men are better a sports means that a woman gets more sports program and scholarship funding than an equally skilled man. And, what disturbs even more people, is that Title IX combined with the fact that men are more interested in sports results in male teams getting cut entirely.

    And then there's a whole bunch of other reasons that men should hate feminism so that even if they don't care about sports or hate jocks they should still be opposed to Title IX.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Rosie, @Rosie, @Wilkey, @Anonymous, @Forbes, @Bragadocious

    Title IX combined with the fact that men are better a sports means that a woman gets more sports program and scholarship funding than an equally skilled man.

    If you have a problem with 50/50, what percentage of athletic budgets do you think should be allocated to women’s sports? 25%, 10%, or were you thinking more along the lines of a 100/0 split?

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @Rosie

    Maybe athletic scholarships should be abolished altogether, and all college sports should be self financing or paid for by the participants where there is no revenue source.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @stillCARealist, @Buffalo Joe, @MBlanc46

    , @TelfoedJohn
    @Rosie

    The audience should pay for the sport. Ticket sales, television rights, sponsorship etc. Given human nature, only tennis and beach volleyball might get money. Most failed politics movements are trying to change human nature. Transgender athletes are just a more blatant example.

    , @ben tillman
    @Rosie

    What percentage of nursing school and education school budgets do you think should be allocated to men?

    The undergraduate population at Florida State consists of of 14,104 males and 18,368 females. Would you require FSU to expel 4,264 female students, or what?

    Vanderbilt was the first university to appoint a male dean of its nursing school, way back in 1967. Today, about 11% of Vanderbilt's nursing students are male? How would you fix this state of affairs?

    Replies: @Rosie, @Alden

    , @GamecockJerry
    @Rosie

    100/0 is cool with me.

    , @Mike Tre
    @Rosie

    Is the revenue generated by women’s college sports equal to that of men’s?

    How about the interest in sports by women compared to men?

    The funny thing his, pretty much every man here (that you bash collectively) is against men competing in women’s sports (they are merely ridiculing the self inflicted wounds the left is suffering from).

    Also, missed yours and Alden’s condolences in the Kathy Shaidle post, but saw a lot of men offering theirs. Huh!

    Replies: @Ray P, @Anonymous

    , @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @Rosie


    If you have a problem with 50/50, what percentage of athletic budgets do you think should be allocated to women’s sports? 25%, 10%, or were you thinking more along the lines of a 100/0 split?
     
    I don't know when or if you were a coed, but when I was in college I had a girl who had literally never rowed before any level but joined the team because practically anyone could get on the women's rowing team - it was formed solely to achieve your 50/50 Title IX split so that the successful football team could remain. Rowing scholarships were available for women who had never picked up an oar before in their lives.

    Could it be that perhaps accepting the fact that as a general principle men have a more broad and more intense interest in competitive athletics is a place to start when determining where opportunities and funding should be directed? Is this such an outrageous idea to you?

    Replies: @Rosie

    , @TheMan
    @Rosie

    Well, I have an issue with a 50/50 split that is the same problem I have with a 30/70 or a 100/0 mandated split. The best way to decide where the budget gets allocated is based on need alone. I went to a school that had boys baseball, boys basketball and nothing else. If you were a girl, you needed to go to home economics cause they didn't play sports. Girls of my time were actually above sports. They dressed nice, went to church, and most abhorred the idea of getting all sweaty playing basketball. Tiltle 9 re-aligned school sports with the changing female paradigm of acceptable vs not for a lady. We dont talk much any more about being lady like, certainly don't teach that very much anymore either. Not to be negative against a particular party line, but how many lady like women role models do we actually have any more. We all watched 4 years of trollops parading around being any thing but lady like. In this area, our former 1st LADY, was among a very few select female role models that if nothing else, showed a level of class and pride while being beseached on all sides. History will probably show her as a very CLASSY lady. This is all directly a result of title 9 and other mis guided policies, while good by way of intent, failing by way of unintended consequences.

    , @Guy De Champlagne
    @Rosie

    The simplest way to get equal treatment would be to just abolish womens sports entirely and have every sport be coed. But even then you'd still have funding and admissions bonus disparities between sports and different teams (varsity, junior varsity, etc) within the same sport that people could claim amount to disparate impact discrimination against women (and different classes/races/geographic areas etc).

    , @Paperback Writer
    @Rosie

    It's true, Rosie.


    As Title IX passes through its 33rd year of existence it is important to examine the other side of the equal opportunity argument that the legislation is supposed to promote. During this time frame in which strides have been made in women’s athletics, men’s athletic programs have generally suffered. More than 400 men’s athletic teams have been eliminated as a result of Universities needing to become NCAA compliant. The sports worst hit have been low revenue Olympic sports such as wrestling, swimming and track and field. This is a disturbing trend that was never intended when Title IX was introduced.

    Clearly this is grossly unfair to males as more males are interested in competing in collegiate sports than women.
     
    https://www.athleticscholarships.net/title-ix-college-athletics-9.htm

    To answer your question, I don't know. But what happened was totally wrong. This EO is also wrong, but my feeling is, it's not yet my fight. Let women fight this one on their own.

    Replies: @Rosie

    , @JR Ewing
    @Rosie

    Economically speaking, the ratio should be "Whatever the college wants it to be."

    Politically speaking, the ratio is, "Whatever the government says it has to be to keep the funding in place."

    The point being, that intercollegiate sports ultimately exist as a marketing arm for the university to differentiate itself from other schools. If having certain teams and a certain level of funding is still a net positive for the school, then they will still fund those programs. If it suddenly "costs more" than the benefits that are accruing, then they will cease those programs.

    All Title IX is is a tax on federal funding that gets added into that marketing budget. If the mandates cause those net benefits to stop accruing, then the balloon gets squeezed in a different way and changes are made to pay the tax, but at no time will colleges ever turn off the federal spigot.

    Everything is a cost-benefit analysis and just like any government regulation, scholarship limits never "create" opportunities, they just move them around.

  58. @Dumbo
    Well, the idea of women's sports was ind of silly to begin with. With a few exceptions: figure skating, gymnastics (well, before it became a contest with drug-addled genetically modified mutant teens), perhaps beach volleyball, horse riding and a few others.

    Most other sport activities masculinize women's bodies, and are not that great to watch anyway. Female basketball in particular is grotesque. Swimming also seems to change women's bodies, they have strange shoulders and no breasts.

    In this sense, having transgender freaks competing is just the logical extension; why masculinize female bodies, why not just get a masculine body and say "it's a woman"? Problem solved.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Curle, @notsaying

    Women’s tennis is quite good and also popular with older male viewers, particularly when the players are bending over waiting to receive serve with tanned thighs that could crack nuts, and pristine, but sweaty white panties stretched tautly over their clenched buttocks.

    But eunuchs do not have quite the same appeal.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jonathan Mason

    Jonathan, that sounds like a snippet from Penthouse Forum ...

    ... from the 1970's! The problem with your scenario is that the women tennis players today aren't sexy like they were in the 1970s. They are to the point where I don't care what color their panties are ... let's see, what's on CNN, when's the war with Russia ...


    .

    ... or is it just me?

    Replies: @Liberty Mike, @Spud Boy

    , @Buzz Mohawk
    @Jonathan Mason

    Good God, man, where have you been watching women's tennis? In your blue-balled imagination? If you want anything "stretched tautly," then go for women's figure skating. There you will find beauty.

    https://olympicgirls.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/sasha-cohen-splits.jpg?w=580&h=303&crop=1

    Replies: @Matt Buckalew, @Captain Tripps, @Anonymous, @ATate, @YetAnotherAnon, @JohnPlywood

  59. @Mike Tre
    @Rosie

    "But on a more substantive note, what exactly is the objection to Title IX?"

    It's blatant anti male discrimination, you ditz.

    Can someone call Mr. Rosie, and let him know that his wife has wandered out of the kitchen again? she may have even put on shoes.

    Replies: @Rosie, @additionalMike

    It’s blatant anti male discrimination, you ditz.

    Aw boohoo, little Mikey doesn’t like having to share.

    • Replies: @Jim Christian
    @Rosie

    Way to defend your position vs. his, Rosie.

    Replies: @Rosie

    , @Mike Tre
    @Rosie

    LOL! You sound like the negroes who feel they're entitled to the fruits of someone else's hard work too.

    , @Alice in Wonderland
    @Rosie


    Aw boohoo, little Mikey doesn’t like having to share.
     
    uh no. It isn't even sharing. Men who want to play sports outnumber women who do by at least 10 to 1. So, a fair "share" would be to fund women's sports at somewhere around 10% of the amount spent on men's.
  60. @Rosie
    @Guy De Champlagne


    Title IX combined with the fact that men are better a sports means that a woman gets more sports program and scholarship funding than an equally skilled man.
     
    If you have a problem with 50/50, what percentage of athletic budgets do you think should be allocated to women’s sports? 25%, 10%, or were you thinking more along the lines of a 100/0 split?

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @TelfoedJohn, @ben tillman, @GamecockJerry, @Mike Tre, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @TheMan, @Guy De Champlagne, @Paperback Writer, @JR Ewing

    Maybe athletic scholarships should be abolished altogether, and all college sports should be self financing or paid for by the participants where there is no revenue source.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Jonathan Mason


    Maybe athletic scholarships should be abolished altogether, and all college sports should be self financing or paid for by the participants where there is no revenue source.
     
    This is what should happen. Put academics back into academia.
    , @stillCARealist
    @Jonathan Mason

    Thank you.

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @Jonathan Mason

    jonathan, you may have the best idea possible on this subject. Few students, at any level, participate in sports, but sports require huge expenditures. My local HS in bond debt for new turf, all weather track, practice fields, lighting, equipment and new stands. And yet, maybe 20 guys or girls on the soccer or lacrosse teams, some of whom play both sports. Too much money and emphasis on sports and this from a father whose daughter had a full athletic scholarship offered to her. College club sports fill a need and often self fund.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    , @MBlanc46
    @Jonathan Mason

    It’s rare that I agree with Jonathan Mason, but, yes, scholarships for academic achievement only.

  61. @Henry's Cat
    Talking of female champions, when are we going to find out who shot Ashli Babbitt?

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Anonymous, @Morton's toes, @Ron Mexico

    Uncomfortable shades of ‘Who Framed Roger Rabbit?’.

  62. @HammerJack
    @Henry's Cat

    http://images.gawker.com/18m8c8nauij5lpng/original.png

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Heh! That’s the second New Yorker cartoon I get, Hammer Jack. (Here‘s the other one.) I should just up and move to the Upper West Side now.

    • Replies: @candid_observer
    @Achmed E. Newman

    In these last 4 years, it seemed like almost half the New Yorker cartoons were about Trump. Did you know he was Bad?

    I hope they will now find other subjects to be unfunny about.

  63. Anonymous[261] • Disclaimer says:
    @unit472
    @photondancer

    Quite! There is no political advantage to promoting 'transgenderism'. It is a minority within a minority. There may have always been 'drag queens' just as there have always been child molesters but no politician, until Joe Biden, saw any advantage to being their 'champion'.

    Oh well, this is what you get when you make a compromised man president.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Dumbo, @Harry Baldwin, @Polistra, @dfordoom

    It’s about what the left wants the majority to do, which is to be forced to celebrate this shit as just as good as, or really better than, the nuclear family. They wish to essentially cancel churches who “discriminate” against them. Think of trans as a symbol of the aim to discredit the West, which includes eliminating gender/sex distinctions, and the nuclear family. BLM had the destruction of the nuclear family explicitly in their website.

    When social conservatives, right before Obergefell, said a right to gay marriage would undermine straight marriage, they argued very poorly and pretty much left it at that. I was more naive back then, and it ran counter to even gay people’s views that I knew. But here we are. This push probably started around 2013, in beginning of Obama’s second term – the whole pedal to the metal on cultural dismantling. (Steve’s written a lot about that timing). That’s exactly what they want. Not merely “rights” for that tiny minority, you’re right. It’s a sleight of hand to impose as “cultural” what is really political, and radically political. Same reason “racist” is the worst possible thing anyone can be.

  64. @Guy De Champlagne
    @Rosie

    Title IX combined with the fact that men are better a sports means that a woman gets more sports program and scholarship funding than an equally skilled man. And, what disturbs even more people, is that Title IX combined with the fact that men are more interested in sports results in male teams getting cut entirely.

    And then there's a whole bunch of other reasons that men should hate feminism so that even if they don't care about sports or hate jocks they should still be opposed to Title IX.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Rosie, @Rosie, @Wilkey, @Anonymous, @Forbes, @Bragadocious

    And then there’s a whole bunch of other reasons that men should hate feminism so that even if they don’t care about sports or hate jocks they should still be opposed to Title IX.

    Yes, I often get the impression that your average Unz piglet thinks no more deeply than that.

    Feminism bad.

    It reminds me of GOPe stooges screeching “That’s socialism” about any government expenditure not aimed at helping billionaires.

    • Replies: @Getaclue
    @Rosie

    Bad? It has very much helped to destroy Western Civilization/USA and got us where we are today in large part -- but you probably like that. So enjoy "Bruce" in the toilet with you - - Feminists are disgusting - - "piglets" hmmm I won't say but light years past that -- self righteous arsonists. Men have been getting screwed over for many decades now as to the "oppressed" women, who actually have way more than 50% of the money as the men die sooner and who are privileged in every manner including in criminal prosecutions, Divorce, College selection, job quotas etc. so tired of them and their whining for every advantage they don't deserve -- so here you go -- yes enjoy "Bruce" in the toilet with you and in your daughter's shower, he's harmless just ask "it".

    Replies: @Rosie

  65. @Rosie
    @Mike Tre


    It’s blatant anti male discrimination, you ditz.
     
    Aw boohoo, little Mikey doesn't like having to share.

    Replies: @Jim Christian, @Mike Tre, @Alice in Wonderland

    Way to defend your position vs. his, Rosie.

    • LOL: Truth
    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Jim Christian


    Way to defend your position vs. his, Rosie.
     
    He didn't state a position. He called me a "ditz" and told me to get back in the kitchen. He got the response he deserved.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  66. @Jonathan Mason
    @Dumbo

    Women's tennis is quite good and also popular with older male viewers, particularly when the players are bending over waiting to receive serve with tanned thighs that could crack nuts, and pristine, but sweaty white panties stretched tautly over their clenched buttocks.

    But eunuchs do not have quite the same appeal.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Buzz Mohawk

    Jonathan, that sounds like a snippet from Penthouse Forum

    … from the 1970’s! The problem with your scenario is that the women tennis players today aren’t sexy like they were in the 1970s. They are to the point where I don’t care what color their panties are … let’s see, what’s on CNN, when’s the war with Russia …

    .

    … or is it just me?

    • Replies: @Liberty Mike
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Maria Sharapova excepted, of course.

    , @Spud Boy
    @Achmed E. Newman

    "...women tennis players today aren’t sexy like they were in the 1970s..."

    Check out Eugenie Bouchard. (I don't know how to post a photo.)

  67. @unit472
    @photondancer

    Quite! There is no political advantage to promoting 'transgenderism'. It is a minority within a minority. There may have always been 'drag queens' just as there have always been child molesters but no politician, until Joe Biden, saw any advantage to being their 'champion'.

    Oh well, this is what you get when you make a compromised man president.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Dumbo, @Harry Baldwin, @Polistra, @dfordoom

    Quite! There is no political advantage to promoting ‘transgenderism’. It is a minority within a minority.

    I think most people don’t understand how important transgenderism is to the elites, and why. The question is not about “political advantage”. Do you think they care about that? The “gay marriage” issue also had little “political advantage” as gays are also a small minority (although, they used the support of women to obtain it, because most women like gays and find them cuddly and, contrary to beta male and incels, they don’t make passes at them).

    No, transgenderism and the blurring of the sexes is fundamental to them. Chaos and the destruction of the family are their goals. Demonic inversion is their credo. “Transgender children” is the next step, Biden already said that “8-year old children should be able to choose”.

    This what we are up against, demonic androgynes from Hell:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Pritzker

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @Dumbo


    No, transgenderism and the blurring of the sexes is fundamental to them. Chaos and the destruction of the family are their goals. Demonic inversion is their credo.
     
    I don't think there's anything demonic, or fundamental, about it. Transgenderism is just a very useful stick with which to beat conservative Christians and social conservatives in general. It's a way to back conservative Christians into a corner in the hope that they'll react and then there'll be an excuse to give them another kicking.

    The Religious Right backed the Republican Party aggressively back in the 80s and 90s. Now it's pay-back time.

    It's also a useful stick with which to beat the Deplorables.

    I don't think the elites give a damn about the trannies, but they do care very much about putting the boot into conservative Christians and Deplorables.

    Plus it's a great way to distract attention away from economic issues.

    Joe Biden doesn't want people focusing on things like the debt does he?

    There are a few True Believer zealots among the elites but I really don't think most elites care about anything apart from maintaining and increasing their wealth and their power. They'll use any tools at all in order to do that.

    Replies: @photondancer, @Dumbo

    , @JR Ewing
    @Dumbo

    Don't know if I necessarily agree with it as "being fundamental".

    I think the answer is more cynical and simpler than that. The dems don't really care about the outcome, they just care about winning elections and holding power.

    They win elections by catering to the feelings of a certain level of ignorant voter. "Look at all these people who are mean to [group]! Vote for us and we'll stop those meanies." Then after they are elected they maintain credibility by doing whatever it is they think needs to happen to that group.

    They've been very successful winning elections that way over the years, so successful that they've had to get more and more granular and deeper and deeper into the bucket with their definition of who's being oppressed.

    We are now so deep into the bucket that all that's left are various forms of mental illness, starting with homosexuality and now into transsexuals and pedos, so that's what they are promoting as the next new civil rights struggle.

    They don't care what they are promoting, they just want to win and they know that there is a large section of the population that can be easily won over by appealing to its virtue instincts.

  68. @Rosie
    It's no surprise that the very first comment here is a Nanna Nanna boo boo from some juvenile little manosphere jackass.

    But on a more substantive note, what exactly is the objection to Title IX?

    EDIT, not just the first one, but the second one, too.

    How many comments before a normal guy chimes in? Or is it just male chauvinist piglets all the way down?

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Buzz Mohawk, @Intelligent Dasein, @Guy De Champlagne, @Kyle, @Kyle, @Mike Tre, @Neoconned, @Anonymous, @Ben tillman, @Not Only Wrathful, @S. Anonyia, @Old and Grumpy, @Mr. Anon, @TWS, @Bel Riose, @SunBakedSuburb, @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle, @Reg Cæsar, @Rob, @jon, @TruthHammer, @donut, @Unladen Swallow, @Chrisnonymous, @Paperback Writer

    One objection to what you call Title IX is that it’s not a law. It’s made up by bureaucrats to mess with us. Enforcement is entirely who/whom.

    And the actual statute isn’t about sports.

    • Replies: @Curle
    @Ben tillman

    Yes. It’s a law.

    It is true, bureaucrats can and do manufacture something out of nothing by redefining terms, affirmative action being the most well known example. However, this is what courts are supposed to stop but, if you’ve followed the news, choose not to do with astonishing regularity.

    https://titleix.harvard.edu/what-title-ix

    Replies: @ben tillman, @Curle

    , @Paperback Writer
    @Ben tillman

    You're right, and this Executive Order isn't a law either. But it has the force of law, is based on law, and can become the basis of more (bad) laws.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer, @JerseyJeffersonian, @Curle

  69. @Peter Johnson
    Wow.

    This is possibly a big deal.

    Society can pretend that African-Americans have the same average cognitive ability as white Americans. That delusion causes many problems but it is sustainable for many people, with lots of hard work. It is causing massive problems, but that delusion is sustained so far in the public sphere.

    The recent new delusion that males and females have the same average physical abilities at sports is entirely unsustainable. No matter how hard people try to believe it and how strong the pressure/censorship by the mainstream media and internet monopolies, they will not be able to sustain it generally in the public mind.

    This policy change will also piss off the moms and dads of athletically-talented girls, who will now be cut out of sports achievement (since they are not excellent compared to males, with their entirely different body shapes, muscle mass, etc.). Will these parents be allowed to express their displeasure publicly, or will they be harshly censored and vindictively targeted?

    Replies: @bomag, @International Jew, @Anon, @jb, @dearieme, @Getaclue, @TWS, @Forbes, @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle

    But how often is this actually going to happen?

    That’s the usual defense. Transwomen are pretty rare, they aren’t all interested in sports, and transitioning does kind of mess them up physically (ya think?), so they aren’t all going to be champions. An if occasionally some dude does come along and dominates some particular women’s sport the media will just paper over it, the same way they’ve papered over dudes beating up women in mixed martial arts. Also, I get the impression that most of the women who participate in sports in college participate in team sports, like soccer, and in that case having a guy on your team is a plus for the other team members, not a negative. It’s only in individual sports that the problem is really obvious.

    So it matters how often it happens. As long as it’s rare the wokesters can get away with demanding that we all play pretend. If it happens a lot then that becomes more difficult.

    • Replies: @photondancer
    @jb

    You haven't thought this through. Transgenders insist they don't have to transition, they just have to say "I'm a woman" and we have to accept it. So that opens the way for any underachieving male athlete to say "I'm a woman, put me in the woman's comp" and lo and behold he starts winning, nabbing the prize money, college scholarships etc. Teenage boys aren't stupid, there have been cases of them doing exactly this and it will get worse as word spreads.

    Replies: @jb

  70. @Dumbo
    Well, the idea of women's sports was ind of silly to begin with. With a few exceptions: figure skating, gymnastics (well, before it became a contest with drug-addled genetically modified mutant teens), perhaps beach volleyball, horse riding and a few others.

    Most other sport activities masculinize women's bodies, and are not that great to watch anyway. Female basketball in particular is grotesque. Swimming also seems to change women's bodies, they have strange shoulders and no breasts.

    In this sense, having transgender freaks competing is just the logical extension; why masculinize female bodies, why not just get a masculine body and say "it's a woman"? Problem solved.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Curle, @notsaying

    Saw Hope Solo in person once. She was a total babe! Bad choice in men, but that’s another matter.

    • Replies: @Morton's toes
    @Curle

    Hope Solo was a goalie.

    Do goalies qualify as real soccer players?

    Aren't they the European equal to punters and placekickers? At least punters and placekickers try and tackle a guy a couple times before their 25th birthday any way.

    There has been exactly one hot female athlete in my life and she never won a big tournament.

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f5/d5/43/f5d54304c92d2452590292f548910307.jpg

    Replies: @Cortes

    , @jon
    @Curle


    Saw Hope Solo in person once. She was a total babe!
     
    Hope's pronouns may be she/her, but that jawline is all he/him.
    https://www.etonline.com/sites/default/files/styles/max_970x546/public/images/2020-04/gettyimages-1128606860.jpg

    Replies: @Truth, @Curle

  71. @Jonathan Mason
    @Rosie

    Maybe athletic scholarships should be abolished altogether, and all college sports should be self financing or paid for by the participants where there is no revenue source.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @stillCARealist, @Buffalo Joe, @MBlanc46

    Maybe athletic scholarships should be abolished altogether, and all college sports should be self financing or paid for by the participants where there is no revenue source.

    This is what should happen. Put academics back into academia.

  72. People usually compare movement to the Left with the swing of a pendulum – soon, it will swing back to the right, they say.

    How many of us envisioned the pendulum swinging all the way over the top?

    President Biden, with his over-the-top Leftism, has actually brought us closer to men being recognized as the most capable of the humans in the realm of physical activity. Winning all the races is just the first step!

  73. @Mike Tre
    @Rosie

    "But on a more substantive note, what exactly is the objection to Title IX?"

    It's blatant anti male discrimination, you ditz.

    Can someone call Mr. Rosie, and let him know that his wife has wandered out of the kitchen again? she may have even put on shoes.

    Replies: @Rosie, @additionalMike

    Title IX is only discriminatory towards men if it is interpreted to mean that there must be absolute parity between male and female participation in sports. This was the Obama-administration mangling the statute to mean what they wanted it to mean, with no regard for the plain wording of the statute, which is quite clear.
    It forbids discrimination. That’s all.

  74. Definitive proof, if it were ever needed for the astute, that these people are most certainly high on their own supply

  75. AFAIK only two amateur sports produce revenue. College football and basketball. Even here the bulk of the revenue is generated by the top (male) teams and ONLY they produce TV revenue. All of that revenue has been heavily impacted by Covid costs and restrictions. The NFL and NBA might be able to limp on without stadium revenue but the NCAA? Ohio State and Duke need those sold out stadiums and arenas both to generate the enthusiasm for and money to fund their teams ( and subsidize women’s programs).

    Since sold out stadiums did not happen last year and probably won’t happen this year the future of collegiate sports has to be in doubt.University boards facing the reality of declining enrollments, reduced state budget appropriations and loss of sports revenues are going to have to decide if funding any sport that does not produce revenue can be sustained.

  76. @Jonathan Mason
    @Dumbo

    Women's tennis is quite good and also popular with older male viewers, particularly when the players are bending over waiting to receive serve with tanned thighs that could crack nuts, and pristine, but sweaty white panties stretched tautly over their clenched buttocks.

    But eunuchs do not have quite the same appeal.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Buzz Mohawk

    Good God, man, where have you been watching women’s tennis? In your blue-balled imagination? If you want anything “stretched tautly,” then go for women’s figure skating. There you will find beauty.

    • Replies: @Matt Buckalew
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Does anyone here fuck other than me? That girl isn’t pretty enough to make my high school’s cheerleading squad unless her mom coached it.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Aeronerauk

    , @Captain Tripps
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Whew! That's almost NSFW...but thanks!

    , @Anonymous
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Women’s volleyball 👊

    6-foot women with 24-inch leaps 👊



    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/01/68/a9/0168a9dcc18ece301344f89b73a9b19f--nice-photos.jpg

    http://bookmakergoal.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/volleyball-japan.jpg

     

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @ATate
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Meh, to each their own. I see that and think...Gross. I have bigger tits than she does.

    (also, gross).

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Her ankles are in different time zones!

    , @JohnPlywood
    @Buzz Mohawk

    It resembles a pugnacious gremlin. I fail to see how anyone can see anything attractive here.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

  77. A new glass ceiling was just placed over girls.

    Actually, it was a new totem in the PC totem pole that was placed above them. The transgender totem.

  78. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Rosie

    Hey Rosie, I'm not normal, but I'm a guy all the way down, and I think this is funny. Our new president is an idiot who is already doing idiotic things like this.

    Girls and boys, women and men, are different from each other, and they can and should have fun playing sports. Isn't that all Title IX is about, or should be about?

    We can expect to see more of this dumbed-down presidency. Let's laugh until Kamala takes over.

    Replies: @Sean, @Escher, @nokangaroos, @Achmed E. Newman, @Anonymous, @ben tillman, @Guest29048

    Girls and boys, women and men, are different from each other, and they can and should have fun playing sports. Isn’t that all Title IX is about, or should be about?

    No, that’s not what Title IX is about. Title IX is about education.

    Title IX provides,

    No person in the United States shall, on the basis of sex, be excluded from participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination under any education program or activity receiving Federal financial assistance.

  79. @Rosie
    @Guy De Champlagne


    Title IX combined with the fact that men are better a sports means that a woman gets more sports program and scholarship funding than an equally skilled man.
     
    If you have a problem with 50/50, what percentage of athletic budgets do you think should be allocated to women’s sports? 25%, 10%, or were you thinking more along the lines of a 100/0 split?

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @TelfoedJohn, @ben tillman, @GamecockJerry, @Mike Tre, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @TheMan, @Guy De Champlagne, @Paperback Writer, @JR Ewing

    The audience should pay for the sport. Ticket sales, television rights, sponsorship etc. Given human nature, only tennis and beach volleyball might get money. Most failed politics movements are trying to change human nature. Transgender athletes are just a more blatant example.

    • Agree: Kolya Krassotkin
  80. @Rosie
    It's no surprise that the very first comment here is a Nanna Nanna boo boo from some juvenile little manosphere jackass.

    But on a more substantive note, what exactly is the objection to Title IX?

    EDIT, not just the first one, but the second one, too.

    How many comments before a normal guy chimes in? Or is it just male chauvinist piglets all the way down?

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Buzz Mohawk, @Intelligent Dasein, @Guy De Champlagne, @Kyle, @Kyle, @Mike Tre, @Neoconned, @Anonymous, @Ben tillman, @Not Only Wrathful, @S. Anonyia, @Old and Grumpy, @Mr. Anon, @TWS, @Bel Riose, @SunBakedSuburb, @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle, @Reg Cæsar, @Rob, @jon, @TruthHammer, @donut, @Unladen Swallow, @Chrisnonymous, @Paperback Writer

    A sensible way for institutions to allocate funding for sport is by the requirement, not by the idea that men and women needed to be treated, when grouped up, as exactly the same. End of

  81. The LPGA just ceased to exist.

    • Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin
    @Dan Smith

    "The LPGA just ceased to exist."

    But on the other hand, this current action by "President" Biden will give men not good enough to play in men's pro sports entry into the women's leagues. For example, men who can't make it in men's pro football will now have bright futures in women's football leagues.

    Who knows? Maybe they could even find a spot for Colin Kaepernick on one of the teams.

  82. @Peter Johnson
    Wow.

    This is possibly a big deal.

    Society can pretend that African-Americans have the same average cognitive ability as white Americans. That delusion causes many problems but it is sustainable for many people, with lots of hard work. It is causing massive problems, but that delusion is sustained so far in the public sphere.

    The recent new delusion that males and females have the same average physical abilities at sports is entirely unsustainable. No matter how hard people try to believe it and how strong the pressure/censorship by the mainstream media and internet monopolies, they will not be able to sustain it generally in the public mind.

    This policy change will also piss off the moms and dads of athletically-talented girls, who will now be cut out of sports achievement (since they are not excellent compared to males, with their entirely different body shapes, muscle mass, etc.). Will these parents be allowed to express their displeasure publicly, or will they be harshly censored and vindictively targeted?

    Replies: @bomag, @International Jew, @Anon, @jb, @dearieme, @Getaclue, @TWS, @Forbes, @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle

    will they be harshly censored and vindictively targeted?

    Yes. Of course. Natch. You betcha. Zoitanly. How can anyone doubt it?

    What else should happen to fascist, Nazi, genderist scum?

  83. @Rosie
    @Guy De Champlagne


    Title IX combined with the fact that men are better a sports means that a woman gets more sports program and scholarship funding than an equally skilled man.
     
    If you have a problem with 50/50, what percentage of athletic budgets do you think should be allocated to women’s sports? 25%, 10%, or were you thinking more along the lines of a 100/0 split?

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @TelfoedJohn, @ben tillman, @GamecockJerry, @Mike Tre, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @TheMan, @Guy De Champlagne, @Paperback Writer, @JR Ewing

    What percentage of nursing school and education school budgets do you think should be allocated to men?

    The undergraduate population at Florida State consists of of 14,104 males and 18,368 females. Would you require FSU to expel 4,264 female students, or what?

    Vanderbilt was the first university to appoint a male dean of its nursing school, way back in 1967. Today, about 11% of Vanderbilt’s nursing students are male? How would you fix this state of affairs?

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @ben tillman


    No, that’s not what Title IX is about. Title IX is about education.
     
    He was using the term Title IX in the colloquial sense. There’s even a sports apparel/athleisure company named after it, because contrary to popular belief, most active women like being women and want to look like women.

    Also, I'm not sure what you meant when you said "it's not a law." It is indeed a federal statute, though I assume bureaucratic regulations interpreting the statute specifically address the question of athletics.

    https://www.titlenine.com/active-dresses/

    The undergraduate population at Florida State consists of of 14,104 males and 18,368 females. Would you require FSU to expel 4,264 female students, or what?
     
    No, that's absurd. If I'm not mistaken, engineering departments are as gender-imbalanced as nursing departments, and I don't think they should kick men out either. I don't see what that has to do with whether colleges and universities should provide equal athletic opportunities for women.

    Replies: @ben tillman, @Lot

    , @Alden
    @ben tillman

    I have always felt that if 50 percent of physicians must be women by the affirmative action laws, 50 percent of nurses must be women. Same with teachers. And auto insurance rates for 16-35 year old men should be the same.

    I don’t know why more men don’t go into nursing school. Only 4 years instead of 8 plus 5 year residency. Because of the lengthy education and further training and cost of 8 years of college, life time earnings if Drs and nurses are getting closer. Men are happy to be low wage EMTs Why they stay away from nursing I don’t know. Nurses in California make about $135K a year. That’s the 36 hour week. Best thing about nurses, they have one of the toughest unions in the country. While Drs have just submitted to the insurance companies. Plus nurses can travel. Go to one of the Gulf companies and make 100K plus a year with free housing and utilities even free meals in the hospital cafeterias no taxes in the country you’re working in and lower American income taxes. Come home with hundreds of thousands in savings.

    Nursing school is the one college White men are not discriminated against.

    Replies: @additionalMike

  84. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Jonathan Mason

    Good God, man, where have you been watching women's tennis? In your blue-balled imagination? If you want anything "stretched tautly," then go for women's figure skating. There you will find beauty.

    https://olympicgirls.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/sasha-cohen-splits.jpg?w=580&h=303&crop=1

    Replies: @Matt Buckalew, @Captain Tripps, @Anonymous, @ATate, @YetAnotherAnon, @JohnPlywood

    Does anyone here fuck other than me? That girl isn’t pretty enough to make my high school’s cheerleading squad unless her mom coached it.

    • Troll: Inquiring Mind
    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @Matt Buckalew

    None of your high school cheerleaders has won a silver medal in Olympic figure skating. Sasha Cohen has.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/99/Sasha_Cohen_2009_SOI_Halifax_Spiral.jpg

    Replies: @HFR, @Truth

    , @Aeronerauk
    @Matt Buckalew

    >doubt

  85. @photondancer
    Of all the problems facing the USA right now, Biden has consistently prioritised the transgender agenda. I *really* want to know who is behind it. They are extraordinarily good at getting their way.

    Replies: @unit472, @Thoughts, @Mike Tre, @Dumbo, @Walsh2, @peterike, @Michelle, @Getaclue, @Thea, @BenKenobi, @Buffalo Joe, @Jeff, @Desiderius, @Desiderius, @Anon, @Cornbeef, @Dennis Dale, @CCZ

    The intent is to further divide and demoralize the opposition.

    • Agree: Polistra
  86. @Sean
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Don't call her that. It is like Johnson being called 'Boris' by friend, foe, and MSM alike, which his opponents realized too late was a major advantage for him.

    Replies: @dearieme

    If I referred to Caramel Harlot would anyone know whom I meant?

    If one can’t poke fun at a child of privilege – Brahmin mother, Jamaican upper-middle class mulatto father – whom can one poke fun at? It seems too easy to poke fun at the Noodle With No Noddle.

  87. There’s always the option of educational institutions dropping sports altogether and focusing on education.

    • Replies: @njguy73
    @Mike_from_SGV

    https://youtu.be/lhckuhUxcgA

  88. @Kyle
    @Rosie

    The last time I was in an airport the university of Iowa girls field hockey team walked by me. The were all sub 5’5” and +150 lbs. They were all short, fat, snot nosed, and pimply faced. They all resembled 14 year olds even though I’m sure they must have been 18-21. There was no intensity or focus in their demeanor, it was just a giggling gaggle of plump juvenile females. Which is fine, but when you start reconciling that with the reality of what you’re seeing it starts to seem ridiculous. Their parents are paying tens of thousands of dollars for them to attend a large state school, and they’re flying around the country to play what’s essentially a children’s game. We’ve cut boys soccer & cross country for this? Something doesn’t seem quite right. You see impressive female athletes on TV, such as track runners or distance swimmers, so it’s jarring to see the reality of female athleticism up close.

    Replies: @dearieme, @Jack D, @Spud Boy, @Paperback Writer, @Truth

    what’s essentially a children’s game

    You reckon? How much hockey have you played?

  89. This will either totally kill female athletics, or more likely in the case that the zombie must be made to shamble on, will provide a huge leap in overall quality as female sports teams are packed with transvestites. Both options are pretty funny.

    This is the real horseshoe, being so pozzed that you swing around the world and end up back at based.

  90. @ben tillman
    @Rosie

    What percentage of nursing school and education school budgets do you think should be allocated to men?

    The undergraduate population at Florida State consists of of 14,104 males and 18,368 females. Would you require FSU to expel 4,264 female students, or what?

    Vanderbilt was the first university to appoint a male dean of its nursing school, way back in 1967. Today, about 11% of Vanderbilt's nursing students are male? How would you fix this state of affairs?

    Replies: @Rosie, @Alden

    No, that’s not what Title IX is about. Title IX is about education.

    He was using the term Title IX in the colloquial sense. There’s even a sports apparel/athleisure company named after it, because contrary to popular belief, most active women like being women and want to look like women.

    Also, I’m not sure what you meant when you said “it’s not a law.” It is indeed a federal statute, though I assume bureaucratic regulations interpreting the statute specifically address the question of athletics.

    https://www.titlenine.com/active-dresses/

    The undergraduate population at Florida State consists of of 14,104 males and 18,368 females. Would you require FSU to expel 4,264 female students, or what?

    No, that’s absurd. If I’m not mistaken, engineering departments are as gender-imbalanced as nursing departments, and I don’t think they should kick men out either. I don’t see what that has to do with whether colleges and universities should provide equal athletic opportunities for women.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @Rosie


    I’m not sure what you meant when you said “it’s not a law.”
     
    I mean that "Title IX in the colloquial sense" is not a law. There is no law focusing on sports scholarships by sex.
    , @Lot
    @Rosie

    “ I don’t see what that has to do with whether colleges and universities should provide equal athletic opportunities for women.”

    The current rule is equal outcomes, not opportunities. The pool of women who want to be college athletes is much smaller, but they get the same number of spots.

    In addition to being unfair, it also results in upper and upper-middle class families putting gigantic resources and pressure onto high school girls to use athletics for a scholarship or preferential admission.

    Higher education in the USA is now so fully a force for evil, anything to damage and disrupt it, such as obnoxious trannies, is positive.

    Replies: @Rosie

  91. @El Dato
    Females getting body-slammed by Males-identifying-as-Females during sportive encounters is something straight out of Wiley Coyotette. It's dangerous for the female and not appealing to look at.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxDaiyREBPw

    Also, the shower scenes just write themselves!

    Meanwhile in the UK:

    A rapist with dick who looks like Bob from Twin Peaks takes a stab at being moved to women's prison:

    A transwoman who raped a female in an horrific attack has been jailed for 15 years – but could still end up in a women’s prison


    The current 2019 policy states “A balanced approach must be adopted when making allocation, care and management decisions relating to transgender individuals, balancing the risks and well-being of the individual with the risks or impact on well-being that the person may present to others.” Should Winter apply for legal gender recognition, the default option would still be a women’s prison.

    The group who seem to be forgotten in all this are, of course, women in prison. Nowhere does the policy suggest asking female prisoners how they feel when biologically male people with penises are moved in with them, and there certainly is no mention of a veto. Women are expected to accept the decision and not complain.
     
    LOL

    Replies: @Calvin Hobbes, @stillCARealist, @Anonymous

    According to President Joe, the rapist should be entitled to OBGYN.

  92. @photondancer
    Of all the problems facing the USA right now, Biden has consistently prioritised the transgender agenda. I *really* want to know who is behind it. They are extraordinarily good at getting their way.

    Replies: @unit472, @Thoughts, @Mike Tre, @Dumbo, @Walsh2, @peterike, @Michelle, @Getaclue, @Thea, @BenKenobi, @Buffalo Joe, @Jeff, @Desiderius, @Desiderius, @Anon, @Cornbeef, @Dennis Dale, @CCZ

    I *really* want to know who is behind it. They are extraordinarily good at getting their way.

    Jews. It’s simply the next step. Jews are insatiably drawn to decadence. They bring it with them everywhere they go.

    • Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin
    @peterike

    No. It's about peddling anything that will turn a profit, be it diamonds, junk bonds, gangsta rap, drugs, booze or pornography; and if you've been taught your entire life by your holy men and holy books that the goyim you're peddling to are less than you, any harm the merchandise you're peddling may cause them is a concern secondary to the ones you have about the profitability of your enterprise.

  93. @International Jew
    Maybe we were all better off before girls sports became a big thing. Even playing against other girls, girl soccer and basketball players suffer way more than their share of concussions and fractures. And then there's track where once we had sensible limits on girls' distance events but now we tempt girls to train themselves into amenorrhea.

    Replies: @Rosie, @S. Anonyia

    There’s no need to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Ballerinas suffer more starvation and overtraining-related health problems than women athletes. The solution is to have realistic expectations, not abolish ballet. Of course, I rather suspect than attempt to enact legislation to protect ballerinas would be met with the usual decision around the parts (nanny state, women don’t want to be held accountable, blah blah, blah on and on).

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ballerinas-health/ballerinas-face-health-hazards-idUSTRE5535PA20090604

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Rosie

    It was men gay directors of ballet companies who decreed that ballerinas should be built like the gay ideal, skinny 11 year old boys. Just look at 1950s 60s dancers. They are normal slim, 5’4 110 pounds, not 85 pounds. Men!!

    It’s not even a career, crippled and retired on disability at age 30. . It’s fun though I love it.

    Replies: @Charlesz Martel

    , @Jack D
    @Rosie

    Maybe the solution is to get government out of the business of micro-regulating every single aspect of our lives and let individual colleges and sports groups, etc. make their own decisions as to who they want on their teams and by what rules their sport should be governed, because they know more about their sport than the government does?

    Central government control of sports and sports spending doesn't work any better than central government control of the economy and capital spending. You end up with wild misallocations and distortions because government feedback mechanisms are slow and crude compared to market mechanisms. Resources are allocated based on political considerations rather than demand and the results are far from optimal. Even when excesses are noted, it can take years or decades to correct them because the wheels of government grind slowly.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @MBlanc46

  94. @anon
    Poetic justice. Title IX turned around to chew on itself.

    Perfect!

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @Jake, @Alden, @Reg Cæsar, @The Alarmist

    Title IX, the lesbian full employment act. I gather the feminazis are in full agreement with men in women’s sports. Karma

  95. @El Dato
    Females getting body-slammed by Males-identifying-as-Females during sportive encounters is something straight out of Wiley Coyotette. It's dangerous for the female and not appealing to look at.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxDaiyREBPw

    Also, the shower scenes just write themselves!

    Meanwhile in the UK:

    A rapist with dick who looks like Bob from Twin Peaks takes a stab at being moved to women's prison:

    A transwoman who raped a female in an horrific attack has been jailed for 15 years – but could still end up in a women’s prison


    The current 2019 policy states “A balanced approach must be adopted when making allocation, care and management decisions relating to transgender individuals, balancing the risks and well-being of the individual with the risks or impact on well-being that the person may present to others.” Should Winter apply for legal gender recognition, the default option would still be a women’s prison.

    The group who seem to be forgotten in all this are, of course, women in prison. Nowhere does the policy suggest asking female prisoners how they feel when biologically male people with penises are moved in with them, and there certainly is no mention of a veto. Women are expected to accept the decision and not complain.
     
    LOL

    Replies: @Calvin Hobbes, @stillCARealist, @Anonymous

    For those who have worked in prisons, or have friends and family who do so, you know that those places have tons of sickos who call themselves women just to mess with everybody. They’re perverts and predators, and the guards know it. Unfortunately the politicians have no clue what goes on in those places so they’ll make decisions and expect prison workers to follow impossible guidelines regarding these psychos.

    what’s really needed are more special institutions for such freaks who can’t be trusted around women, men, guards, dogs, anything. If we’re going to lock people up for criminal behavior, we need to be able to keep them safe from each other and actually give them the environment that’s appropriate. I guess I’d say this goes for truly effeminate men in prison too. They must face constant threat.

    • Replies: @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle
    @stillCARealist

    In a large number of male prisons they already segregate the population by homosexuality or whether they're convicted of sex crimes. Something about the main prison population not wanting to put up with those types of behavior.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

  96. @Ben tillman
    @Rosie

    One objection to what you call Title IX is that it’s not a law. It’s made up by bureaucrats to mess with us. Enforcement is entirely who/whom.

    And the actual statute isn’t about sports.

    Replies: @Curle, @Paperback Writer

    Yes. It’s a law.

    It is true, bureaucrats can and do manufacture something out of nothing by redefining terms, affirmative action being the most well known example. However, this is what courts are supposed to stop but, if you’ve followed the news, choose not to do with astonishing regularity.

    https://titleix.harvard.edu/what-title-ix

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @Curle


    Yes. It’s a law.

    It is true, bureaucrats can and do manufacture something out of nothing by redefining terms, affirmative action being the most well known example. However, this is what courts are supposed to stop but, if you’ve followed the news, choose not to do with astonishing regularity.
     
    No, "it" is not a law. Re-read the comment thread carefully. The antecedent of "it" is not "Title IX".
    , @Curle
    @Curle

    Title IX is, in fact, the law to which you object. Easy way to tell? It will be cited as authority for the legal obligations that command the outcomes you dislike.

  97. @Bill Jones
    @anon

    So Wimmin setting themselves up as parasites upon normal men, turned out to be setting themselves up as Hosts for abnormal men.

    It's hard not to laugh. So I did.

    btw.Did anybody else catching a little of the Coronation of The Pretender yesterday think how much Washington now had its own Green Zone; where the occupiers could go about the business of looting without catching sight of the rebellious natives?

    Replies: @EdwardM, @Intelligent Dasein

  98. Democrats are the real misogynists.

    • LOL: jon
  99. @Jonathan Mason
    @Rosie

    Maybe athletic scholarships should be abolished altogether, and all college sports should be self financing or paid for by the participants where there is no revenue source.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @stillCARealist, @Buffalo Joe, @MBlanc46

    Thank you.

  100. @Guy De Champlagne
    @Rosie

    Title IX combined with the fact that men are better a sports means that a woman gets more sports program and scholarship funding than an equally skilled man. And, what disturbs even more people, is that Title IX combined with the fact that men are more interested in sports results in male teams getting cut entirely.

    And then there's a whole bunch of other reasons that men should hate feminism so that even if they don't care about sports or hate jocks they should still be opposed to Title IX.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Rosie, @Rosie, @Wilkey, @Anonymous, @Forbes, @Bragadocious

    Title IX combined with the fact that men are better a sports means that a woman gets more sports program and scholarship funding than an equally skilled man.

    Not exactly. The problem is that football uses up so many scholarships (something like 80 or so) that it doesn’t leave room for many other male sports teams. So for the number of male athletes to equal the number of female athletes they end up doing away with mens gymnastics, tennis, volleyball, etc.

    What that doesn’t account for is that football often actually makes money for the school, either directly or by attracting a lot of donations, whereas most of the other sports don’t.

  101. @Altai
    I would say it'll be interesting to see how far the impacts of this will go. Are there really enough guys who will do this to make a big impact? So far the numbers seem small enough that though it has ruined lots of individual female athletes dreams, it seems just that, not a systemic destruction of women's sports.

    Most MtF who are younger tend to be the effeminate type and are going on medical transition earlier and earlier so they're unlikely to be highly competitive even if they had an interest in sport.

    The marines in dresses brigade seem to mostly transition later, after the peak of athletic performance, even assuming they have an interest in competing in women's sports.

    Though there have been some egregious examples like the huge guy who switched to women's rugby in a move that seemed genuinely unsafe.

    Replies: @Jake, @peterike, @Thoughts

    I would say it’ll be interesting to see how far the impacts of this will go. Are there really enough guys who will do this to make a big impact?

    With enough laudatory media coverage, it could turn into a preference cascade. Like Steve has written about anorexia, many of these trends are media driven. And given social media amplification these days, this could easily become “a thing.” You might even get some straight boys LARPing to get onto the girls team, into the locker room, etc.

  102. @photondancer
    Of all the problems facing the USA right now, Biden has consistently prioritised the transgender agenda. I *really* want to know who is behind it. They are extraordinarily good at getting their way.

    Replies: @unit472, @Thoughts, @Mike Tre, @Dumbo, @Walsh2, @peterike, @Michelle, @Getaclue, @Thea, @BenKenobi, @Buffalo Joe, @Jeff, @Desiderius, @Desiderius, @Anon, @Cornbeef, @Dennis Dale, @CCZ

    In India Trannies ride on subway trains demanding money from passengers. They threaten to hex you if you don’t fork over the rupee’s. Same thing is happening here.

    • Replies: @White Guy In Japan
    @Michelle

    In Thailand, the ladyboy is often seen as being magical. They are also seen as cursed, atoning for misdeeds from a previous life.

    Replies: @Michelle

  103. @Henry's Cat
    Since nobody really cares about female sports, which mainly subsist on the coattails of the men, it's easy to dismiss this issue as insignificant or irrelevant. If, however, a geezer won the women's tennis Grand Slam that would certainly put the cat amongst the pigeons. But would any man have the chutzpah, not to say the balls, to carry it off? No Serena jokes, please.

    Replies: @ben tillman, @YetAnotherAnon, @Servant of Gla'aki, @Dave from Oz

    Since nobody really cares about female sports, which mainly subsist on the coattails of the men, it’s easy to dismiss this issue as insignificant or irrelevant. If, however, a geezer won the women’s tennis Grand Slam that would certainly put the cat amongst the pigeons. But would any man have the chutzpah, not to say the balls, to carry it off? No Serena jokes, please.

    Yes, it’s already happened — back in the ’70’s. Here’s a white man’s take on the spectacle of Dr, Richard Raskind taking on Chris Evert at the US Women’s Clay Court Championships in Indianapolis many years ago:

    https://www.whitenationalism.com/cwar/orange.htm

    Here’s a Jewish perspective:

    https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/.premium-1977-renee-richards-wins-for-transgender-rights-1.5425096

    A summary of his record playing as a “woman”:

    https://db4tennis.com/players/female/renee-richards

    Richards played professionally from 1977 to 1981 when she retired at age 47. She was ranked as high as 20th overall (in February 1979), and her highest ranking at the end of a year was 22nd (in 1977). Her first professional event as a female was the 1977 U.S. Open. Her greatest successes on court were reaching the doubles final at her first U.S. Open in 1977, with Betty Ann Grubb Stuart – the pair lost a close match to Martina Navratilova and Betty Stöve – and winning the 35-and-over women’s singles. Richards was twice a semifinalist in mixed doubles, with Ilie Năstase, at the U.S. Open. In 1979, she defeated Nancy Richey for the 35-and-over singles title at the Open. Richards posted wins over Hana Mandlíková, Sylvia Hanika, Virginia Ruzici, and Pam Shriver.

    • Replies: @Liberty Mike
    @ben tillman

    Thank you for the info as I had forgotten the relative success of Rene Richards.

    No, she never won a major, but she did beat women who won majors, including Ms. Mandlikova, who won the US Open in 1985.

    , @Ron Mexico
    @ben tillman

    I remembered the name, but didn't realize "he/she" partnered with Nasty Nastase. Must have been entertaining.

    Replies: @ben tillman

    , @Charlesz Martel
    @ben tillman

    I used to do a lot of business with a guy whose teenage daughter had an eye injury requiring immediate treatment. The Dr. that they wound up getting was Renee Richards. This was around 1984-85.
    He told me he didn't even realize that the Dr. was a transsexual and only realized who she was at the end of treatment.
    Said she was very competent and a good Dr., so I assume it all turned out well.

    Replies: @ben tillman

  104. @ben tillman
    @Rosie

    What percentage of nursing school and education school budgets do you think should be allocated to men?

    The undergraduate population at Florida State consists of of 14,104 males and 18,368 females. Would you require FSU to expel 4,264 female students, or what?

    Vanderbilt was the first university to appoint a male dean of its nursing school, way back in 1967. Today, about 11% of Vanderbilt's nursing students are male? How would you fix this state of affairs?

    Replies: @Rosie, @Alden

    I have always felt that if 50 percent of physicians must be women by the affirmative action laws, 50 percent of nurses must be women. Same with teachers. And auto insurance rates for 16-35 year old men should be the same.

    I don’t know why more men don’t go into nursing school. Only 4 years instead of 8 plus 5 year residency. Because of the lengthy education and further training and cost of 8 years of college, life time earnings if Drs and nurses are getting closer. Men are happy to be low wage EMTs Why they stay away from nursing I don’t know. Nurses in California make about $135K a year. That’s the 36 hour week. Best thing about nurses, they have one of the toughest unions in the country. While Drs have just submitted to the insurance companies. Plus nurses can travel. Go to one of the Gulf companies and make 100K plus a year with free housing and utilities even free meals in the hospital cafeterias no taxes in the country you’re working in and lower American income taxes. Come home with hundreds of thousands in savings.

    Nursing school is the one college White men are not discriminated against.

    • Replies: @additionalMike
    @Alden

    "Men are happy to be low wage EMTs Why they stay away from nursing I don’t know."

    My nephew is a helicopter EMT...the impression I get is that a lot of these guys are adrenaline junkies, like many emergency workers and servicemen.

  105. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jonathan Mason

    Jonathan, that sounds like a snippet from Penthouse Forum ...

    ... from the 1970's! The problem with your scenario is that the women tennis players today aren't sexy like they were in the 1970s. They are to the point where I don't care what color their panties are ... let's see, what's on CNN, when's the war with Russia ...


    .

    ... or is it just me?

    Replies: @Liberty Mike, @Spud Boy

    Maria Sharapova excepted, of course.

  106. @Rosie
    It's no surprise that the very first comment here is a Nanna Nanna boo boo from some juvenile little manosphere jackass.

    But on a more substantive note, what exactly is the objection to Title IX?

    EDIT, not just the first one, but the second one, too.

    How many comments before a normal guy chimes in? Or is it just male chauvinist piglets all the way down?

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Buzz Mohawk, @Intelligent Dasein, @Guy De Champlagne, @Kyle, @Kyle, @Mike Tre, @Neoconned, @Anonymous, @Ben tillman, @Not Only Wrathful, @S. Anonyia, @Old and Grumpy, @Mr. Anon, @TWS, @Bel Riose, @SunBakedSuburb, @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle, @Reg Cæsar, @Rob, @jon, @TruthHammer, @donut, @Unladen Swallow, @Chrisnonymous, @Paperback Writer

    Title XI is flawed, but some of the Manosphere whiners’ main grievances:

    They delusionally believe if not for Title XI or the presence of women’s sports, every boy who wanted to could be a sports star and grow up with adoring female attention. Also many men who participated in marginal sports like lacrosse or wrestling (Considered kind of gay where I live, by the way. Didn’t even exist in our schools until Midwestern transplants brought it about 10 years ago) hate women’s sports and think they’d get massive crowds for their fringe activities if women’s soccer went away. Or something.

    Just another symptom of America’s fixation on sports but not fitness, honestly.

    • Replies: @Gross Terry
    @S. Anonyia


    Considered kind of gay where I live
     
    i guarantee where you live is extremely gay
  107. @Curle
    @Ben tillman

    Yes. It’s a law.

    It is true, bureaucrats can and do manufacture something out of nothing by redefining terms, affirmative action being the most well known example. However, this is what courts are supposed to stop but, if you’ve followed the news, choose not to do with astonishing regularity.

    https://titleix.harvard.edu/what-title-ix

    Replies: @ben tillman, @Curle

    Yes. It’s a law.

    It is true, bureaucrats can and do manufacture something out of nothing by redefining terms, affirmative action being the most well known example. However, this is what courts are supposed to stop but, if you’ve followed the news, choose not to do with astonishing regularity.

    No, “it” is not a law. Re-read the comment thread carefully. The antecedent of “it” is not “Title IX”.

  108. @Rosie
    It's no surprise that the very first comment here is a Nanna Nanna boo boo from some juvenile little manosphere jackass.

    But on a more substantive note, what exactly is the objection to Title IX?

    EDIT, not just the first one, but the second one, too.

    How many comments before a normal guy chimes in? Or is it just male chauvinist piglets all the way down?

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Buzz Mohawk, @Intelligent Dasein, @Guy De Champlagne, @Kyle, @Kyle, @Mike Tre, @Neoconned, @Anonymous, @Ben tillman, @Not Only Wrathful, @S. Anonyia, @Old and Grumpy, @Mr. Anon, @TWS, @Bel Riose, @SunBakedSuburb, @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle, @Reg Cæsar, @Rob, @jon, @TruthHammer, @donut, @Unladen Swallow, @Chrisnonymous, @Paperback Writer

    If the men’s football or basketball teams can’t pay for the girls, then the poor schmucks just paying their tuition do. Or do you believe all those endowments actually benefit the students in some capacity?

  109. Here’s a long ESPN article.

    The battle over Title IX and who gets to be a woman in sports: inside the raging national debate

    https://www.espn.com/espnw/story/_/id/29347507/the-battle-title-ix-gets-woman-sports-raging-national-debate

    Obama did what Joe is doing now on this, it got held up in the courts and then reversed under Trump.

    “WITH A SINGLE letter, dated May 13, 2016, President Barack Obama and his administration altered the debate over rights for transgender youth in the United States. Using a mechanism known as a “Dear Colleague Letter,” Obama’s Justice and Education departments issued joint guidance on transgender inclusion in schools. The letter spelled out how the administration was interpreting Title IX and was unequivocal about the inclusion of transgender students in its protection.”

    This (or should it be “these”?) is who wrote this ESPN article.

    https://www.starwars.com/news/contributor/kbarnes

    KATIE BARNES
    Katie Barnes (they/them/their) is an award winning journalist for ESPN and espnW, covering culture, LGBTQ issues, women’s basketball, collegiate softball, and women’s combat sports. Since joining ESPN in August 2015, Katie has written on myriad topics, such as transgender athletes, racial justice, and Hollywood stunt doubles. Their article on two high school transgender athletes earned them a GLAAD Award nomination for Outstanding Magazine Article. Katie holds a B.A. in History, Russian Studies, and American Studies from St. Olaf College, and an M.S. in Student Affairs and Higher Education from Miami University (OH). They were the 2017 NLGJA Journalist of the year.

    From “their” picture, I thought “they” were trans in some direction, but it seems “they” are a lesbian.

    The secret double life of a gay basketball coach
    Former basketball player and coach Katie Barnes talks about their fear of being out and having to live a double life while they coached at a Catholic school.

    https://www.outsports.com/2014/9/18/6411133/katie-barnes-gay-basketball-coach-catholic

  110. @ben tillman
    @Henry's Cat


    Since nobody really cares about female sports, which mainly subsist on the coattails of the men, it’s easy to dismiss this issue as insignificant or irrelevant. If, however, a geezer won the women’s tennis Grand Slam that would certainly put the cat amongst the pigeons. But would any man have the chutzpah, not to say the balls, to carry it off? No Serena jokes, please.
     
    Yes, it's already happened -- back in the '70's. Here's a white man's take on the spectacle of Dr, Richard Raskind taking on Chris Evert at the US Women's Clay Court Championships in Indianapolis many years ago:

    https://www.whitenationalism.com/cwar/orange.htm

    Here's a Jewish perspective:

    https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/.premium-1977-renee-richards-wins-for-transgender-rights-1.5425096

    A summary of his record playing as a "woman":

    https://db4tennis.com/players/female/renee-richards

    Richards played professionally from 1977 to 1981 when she retired at age 47. She was ranked as high as 20th overall (in February 1979), and her highest ranking at the end of a year was 22nd (in 1977). Her first professional event as a female was the 1977 U.S. Open. Her greatest successes on court were reaching the doubles final at her first U.S. Open in 1977, with Betty Ann Grubb Stuart – the pair lost a close match to Martina Navratilova and Betty Stöve – and winning the 35-and-over women's singles. Richards was twice a semifinalist in mixed doubles, with Ilie Năstase, at the U.S. Open. In 1979, she defeated Nancy Richey for the 35-and-over singles title at the Open. Richards posted wins over Hana Mandlíková, Sylvia Hanika, Virginia Ruzici, and Pam Shriver.
     

    Replies: @Liberty Mike, @Ron Mexico, @Charlesz Martel

    Thank you for the info as I had forgotten the relative success of Rene Richards.

    No, she never won a major, but she did beat women who won majors, including Ms. Mandlikova, who won the US Open in 1985.

  111. @Rosie
    @International Jew

    There's no need to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Ballerinas suffer more starvation and overtraining-related health problems than women athletes. The solution is to have realistic expectations, not abolish ballet. Of course, I rather suspect than attempt to enact legislation to protect ballerinas would be met with the usual decision around the parts (nanny state, women don't want to be held accountable, blah blah, blah on and on).

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ballerinas-health/ballerinas-face-health-hazards-idUSTRE5535PA20090604

    Replies: @Alden, @Jack D

    It was men gay directors of ballet companies who decreed that ballerinas should be built like the gay ideal, skinny 11 year old boys. Just look at 1950s 60s dancers. They are normal slim, 5’4 110 pounds, not 85 pounds. Men!!

    It’s not even a career, crippled and retired on disability at age 30. . It’s fun though I love it.

    • Replies: @Charlesz Martel
    @Alden

    I knew a very famous ballerina who had to do exercises every day of her life to avoid being in constant pain. Ballet makes your body do things it's not designed to do.
    She had a very long career, including taking a break to have children, and went back to ballet and was still at the top of her game. She's still active today in her 80's, though no longer dancing professionally. So there are exceptions, but in general, most ballerinas are done by their mid 20's, if not earlier.

  112. @Anonymous
    https://twitter.com/loganclarkhall/status/1352032340625776646

    Replies: @Jack D, @Intelligent Dasein

    I have a family member who takes Humira. They send it by overnight courier in an insulated box with gel packs (it only needs to be refrigerated, not frozen) and a temperature indicator dot that changes color if the temperature limits have been exceeded (we’ve never gotten a shipment where they have). Once you open the box the Humira is in an EpiPen type dispenser – you press the tip of the dispenser to your skin and click the button and a spring loaded recessed hypodermic needle injects you.

    For most of the current Covid vaccines you’d need to replace the gel packs with dry ice but this distribution model could work, especially if you could combine all of the doses for a household into one shipment. It could be a supplement to the existing (painfully slow) vaccination programs rather than a substitute, focusing on people in rural areas remote from vaccination centers, the homebound, etc. Amazon and their shipping partners handle millions of boxes per day (and even more in the holiday season) so a few million more would not pose a big challenge.

    Operation Warp Speed was an incredible program to produce a vaccine in record time but they seem to have completely dropped the ball on distribution. Most of the states are only getting up to speed now when they had many months to be preparing while the vaccines were in development.

    • Replies: @danand
    @Jack D

    “Amazon and their shipping partners handle millions of boxes per day (and even more in the holiday season)...”

    This past holiday season it crossed my mind I might have to substitute a std gift of Jeni’s ice cream. It ships with dry ice, my thinking being that dry ice might be the new toilet tissue; as Pfizer had suggested it might be an issue. Turned out it was a not, their bewildered response to my inquiry left me feeling a bit queer for asking.

    On a couple of occasions I’ve left the pints sealed in their styrofoam insulated boxes for days, and when opened found they remained frozen solid.

    https://flic.kr/p/2kuitRu

    Wonder where J&J’s one dose vaccine is in its evaluation/release?

    Replies: @Dan Smith, @HammerJack

    , @Johann Ricke
    @Jack D


    Operation Warp Speed was an incredible program to produce a vaccine in record time but they seem to have completely dropped the ball on distribution. Most of the states are only getting up to speed now when they had many months to be preparing while the vaccines were in development.
     
    In their defense, they weren't expecting a proven (i.e. not Chinese or Russian) vaccine to materialize for a while. Meanwhile, they were racking their brains for ways to get out of their fiscal dilemma from either shutdowns or economic downturns that have accompanied even non-shutdown states. Then there was the delicate balancing act between cracking down on a BLM/Antifa-initiated crime wave and getting pilloried by a far left media that views these criminals as their operations arm, while getting high fives from limo liberal/independent (aka Biden) voters mostly insulated from the mayhem and destruction.
    , @Wilkey
    @Jack D

    This sounds like just standard Amazon PR douchebaggery. I don't think that UPS & Fedex are the chokepoint. We have doctors' offices in my office building - not a particularly large one - and UPS and Fedex trucks are here literally every day. Most hospitals, clinics, and even doctors' offices probably see them every day, as well. For Fedex and UPS a vaccine shipment is just an extra box for a place they're probably already going to.

    From what I understand Amazon doesn't deliver its own stuff in rural areas, anyway. It delivers in cities where it has warehouses, but in small towns it hands off to the major package carriers.

    The chokepoints are in the manufacturing of the drug, on the front end, and at the hospitals, clinics, and pharmacies which are supposed to be giving the vaccines to people. And the latter is probably only due to the states not giving them adequate instructions. Probably it's all just about them getting the word out to people who are eligible to come in and get their damn vaccine.

    Shipping to homes doesn't make much sense. The number of shipments going out from the manufacturer would increase exponentially, as would the amount of packaging materials, dry ice, etc., that were needed. Their model didn't plan for that. And once the vaccines were delivered most people wouldn't feel comfortable giving it to themselves.

    Replies: @Jack D

  113. No, that’s absurd. If I’m not mistaken, engineering departments are as gender-imbalanced as nursing departments, and I don’t think they should kick men out either. I don’t see what that has to do with whether colleges and universities should provide equal athletic opportunities for women.

    No, you’re just doing the same thing that Democrats do every time we encounter disparity in the world: engage in highly selective outrage.

    Florida State has more athletic scholarships for men than for women? OUTRAGE!

    Florida State admits far more women than men? (crickets)

    Men earn more money than women? OUTRAGE!

    Men are less likely to graduate from college than women, have shorter lifespans than women, commit suicide at higher rates than women, are more likely to die on the job than women, and are more likely to go to prison than women? (crickets)

    Blacks go to prison more often than whites? OUTRAGE! PROOF OF RACISM IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM!

    Men go to prison more often than women? (crickets)

    Whites do better on most social metrics than black and Hispanics? OUTRAGE!

    Jews and Asians do better than whites on most social metrics? (crickets)

    Basically the only country we’re allowed to live in is a country where men do worse than women, straights do worse than gays, and whites and Christians do worse than absolutely everyone. If whites and men and Christians aren’t doing far worse than every other demo then discrimination against them must be imposed by the Courts until they do.

  114. @Rosie
    It's no surprise that the very first comment here is a Nanna Nanna boo boo from some juvenile little manosphere jackass.

    But on a more substantive note, what exactly is the objection to Title IX?

    EDIT, not just the first one, but the second one, too.

    How many comments before a normal guy chimes in? Or is it just male chauvinist piglets all the way down?

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Buzz Mohawk, @Intelligent Dasein, @Guy De Champlagne, @Kyle, @Kyle, @Mike Tre, @Neoconned, @Anonymous, @Ben tillman, @Not Only Wrathful, @S. Anonyia, @Old and Grumpy, @Mr. Anon, @TWS, @Bel Riose, @SunBakedSuburb, @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle, @Reg Cæsar, @Rob, @jon, @TruthHammer, @donut, @Unladen Swallow, @Chrisnonymous, @Paperback Writer

    It’s no surprise that the very first comment here is a Nanna Nanna boo boo from some juvenile little manosphere jackass.

    Lots of regular white suburban moms with children support this transgender jackassery. Lots of them voted for Biden, who will now work to disenfranchise them and rob their children of opportunities in the name of “racial and gender equity”. That’s why it’s relevant, you tiresome harpy.

    • Agree: Kylie
    • Replies: @Alice in Wonderland
    @Mr. Anon


    Lots of regular white suburban moms with children support this transgender jackassery. Lots of them voted for Biden, who will now work to disenfranchise them and rob their children of opportunities in the name of “racial and gender equity”. That’s why it’s relevant, you tiresome harpy.
     
    Bravo

    Replies: @Rosie, @Paperback Writer

    , @Rosie
    @Mr. Anon


    Lots of regular white suburban moms with children support this transgender jackassery. Lots of them voted for Biden, who will now work to disenfranchise them and rob their children of opportunities in the name of “racial and gender equity”. That’s why it’s relevant, you tiresome harpy.
     
    Just how stupid evil are White manosphere pigs?

    They heap scorn and derision on the only other group of
    of Americans not on board with their destruction.

    https://www.essence.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/8CB48F0D-2338-4387-823E-80CA797A0557.jpeg

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

  115. Please soccer playing boys in search of college scholarship bite the bullet. Keep your plumbing, don’t take the meds, but please in mass identify as girls. I really want to see the entire women’s US soccer team react to your invasion into their domain.

  116. @Achmed E. Newman
    @HammerJack

    Heh! That's the second New Yorker cartoon I get, Hammer Jack. (Here's the other one.) I should just up and move to the Upper West Side now.

    Replies: @candid_observer

    In these last 4 years, it seemed like almost half the New Yorker cartoons were about Trump. Did you know he was Bad?

    I hope they will now find other subjects to be unfunny about.

  117. @Arclight
    On WWT, the BLM insanity and so on, I've basically concluded that the public needs to get these policies good and hard for an extended period of time before a critical mass of people are fed up enough for it to be worthwhile for politicians to make changes.

    We have much further to fall as a society before there is any hope for a rebound.

    Replies: @Frank McGar, @jon, @JosephB

    Agree. It hasn’t hit home yet. People need to see it in action, to the point where it’s affecting them directly. Right now it’s just a feelgood policy that makes woke white people feel like they are being more inclusive. You like inclusivity Becky? Get ready!!!

  118. @Rosie
    @International Jew

    There's no need to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Ballerinas suffer more starvation and overtraining-related health problems than women athletes. The solution is to have realistic expectations, not abolish ballet. Of course, I rather suspect than attempt to enact legislation to protect ballerinas would be met with the usual decision around the parts (nanny state, women don't want to be held accountable, blah blah, blah on and on).

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ballerinas-health/ballerinas-face-health-hazards-idUSTRE5535PA20090604

    Replies: @Alden, @Jack D

    Maybe the solution is to get government out of the business of micro-regulating every single aspect of our lives and let individual colleges and sports groups, etc. make their own decisions as to who they want on their teams and by what rules their sport should be governed, because they know more about their sport than the government does?

    Central government control of sports and sports spending doesn’t work any better than central government control of the economy and capital spending. You end up with wild misallocations and distortions because government feedback mechanisms are slow and crude compared to market mechanisms. Resources are allocated based on political considerations rather than demand and the results are far from optimal. Even when excesses are noted, it can take years or decades to correct them because the wheels of government grind slowly.

    • Agree: ben tillman
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jack D

    Whoa, that's Jack D. coming out as a Libertarian! You've got to have a thick skin now, Jack. They'll call you all sorts of names. Just call them anti-Libites back. ;-}

    .


    oops and:

    • Fuckin' A!:. @ Achmed E. Newman

    (When is Mr. Unz going to get around to adding this tag?!)

    , @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @Jack D


    Central government control of sports and sports spending doesn’t work any better than central government control of the economy and capital spending. You end up with wild misallocations and distortions because government feedback mechanisms are slow and crude compared to market mechanisms. Resources are allocated based on political considerations rather than demand and the results are far from optimal. Even when excesses are noted, it can take years or decades to correct them because the wheels of government grind slowly.
     
    Yes, as we all know the Russians and East Germans were abysmal failures at the Olympics.

    But more to the point, the government control has been there for quite some time. It's just that the extant control has turned against and is being used to disfavor its historical beneficiaries now.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Dave from Oz

    , @MBlanc46
    @Jack D

    Thank you, Jack D.

  119. I’m hearing that the White House press corps assigned to cheerlead the new administration will be almost exclusively female. Male journalists may need gender reassignment to claw back some of these plum positions.

  120. @Kyle
    @Rosie

    The last time I was in an airport the university of Iowa girls field hockey team walked by me. The were all sub 5’5” and +150 lbs. They were all short, fat, snot nosed, and pimply faced. They all resembled 14 year olds even though I’m sure they must have been 18-21. There was no intensity or focus in their demeanor, it was just a giggling gaggle of plump juvenile females. Which is fine, but when you start reconciling that with the reality of what you’re seeing it starts to seem ridiculous. Their parents are paying tens of thousands of dollars for them to attend a large state school, and they’re flying around the country to play what’s essentially a children’s game. We’ve cut boys soccer & cross country for this? Something doesn’t seem quite right. You see impressive female athletes on TV, such as track runners or distance swimmers, so it’s jarring to see the reality of female athleticism up close.

    Replies: @dearieme, @Jack D, @Spud Boy, @Paperback Writer, @Truth

    and they’re flying around the country to play what’s essentially a children’s game.

    Field hockey is no more and no less a “children’s game” than any other sport. In many parts of the world it is played by men. I suppose in the US the men’s version is mostly crowded out by ice hockey and by lacrosse.

    You can object to almost ALL sports on the grounds that they are mere children’s games. The thing is that there is vastly more demand among spectators and the players to watch and participate in certain children’s games vs others, but Title IX substitutes government micromanagement for the judgment of the marketplace.

    • Agree: ben tillman, Wilkey
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Jack D


    Field hockey is no more and no less a “children’s game” than any other sport. In many parts of the world it is played by men. I suppose in the US the men’s version is mostly crowded out by ice hockey and by lacrosse.
     
    Nah. It became associated with girls at Northeastern boarding schools and women's colleges. Thus, men lost interest. As with one-time boys' names such as Beverly and Ashley.

    Isn't lacrosse seen as solely a girls' sport in Britain?

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    , @Dissident
    @Jack D


    You can object to almost ALL sports on the grounds that they are mere children’s games.
     
    Alternatively, rather than paying and traveling to watch men who are likely to be obnoxious, spoiled, violent, and seething with hostility toward whites and the US play children's games, one can head over to one's local park and watch boys them. Or even play a sport oneself. Or enjoy the great outdoors in any number of other ways that don't require supporting or being party to odiously Woke professional sports.

    https://riversideparknyc.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/MEN-PLAYING-A-GAME-cleaned-up.jpg
    http://www.archives.nysed.gov/common/archives/files/69040_ca_object_representations_media_2916_page_3.jpg

    , @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @Jack D


    Field hockey is no more and no less a “children’s game” than any other sport. In many parts of the world it is played by men. I suppose in the US the men’s version is mostly crowded out by ice hockey and by lacrosse.

    You can object to almost ALL sports on the grounds that they are mere children’s games. The thing is that there is vastly more demand among spectators and the players to watch and participate in certain children’s games vs others, but Title IX substitutes government micromanagement for the judgment of the marketplace.
     
    I see Kyle's point though - he's writing that the Iowa Women's Field Hockey team didn't seem upon first blush to be a serious or high-level athletic enterprise but rather a social club arranged around travel and hitting a ball about. In such a case, is the travel part even necessary or something worth the expense if teams of a similar level of competition could probably be found within 30 miles of campus?

    At least in the case of BIG10 Football, it's a serious athletic enterprise justifying the necessity to fly the team across the Midwest to find competitive peers. You may object that BIG10 Football is too serious of an athletic enterprise (and the correlated academic exercise not serious enough), but it's a thing that's wholly different than what Kyle was describing. Indeed, the football programs generate excess revenue to fund other athletic programs which cannot self-fund. (Perhaps a better compromise would be directing the football revenue into academic programs).

    Replies: @Moral Stone, @Reg Cæsar, @Alden

  121. @Rosie
    @ben tillman


    No, that’s not what Title IX is about. Title IX is about education.
     
    He was using the term Title IX in the colloquial sense. There’s even a sports apparel/athleisure company named after it, because contrary to popular belief, most active women like being women and want to look like women.

    Also, I'm not sure what you meant when you said "it's not a law." It is indeed a federal statute, though I assume bureaucratic regulations interpreting the statute specifically address the question of athletics.

    https://www.titlenine.com/active-dresses/

    The undergraduate population at Florida State consists of of 14,104 males and 18,368 females. Would you require FSU to expel 4,264 female students, or what?
     
    No, that's absurd. If I'm not mistaken, engineering departments are as gender-imbalanced as nursing departments, and I don't think they should kick men out either. I don't see what that has to do with whether colleges and universities should provide equal athletic opportunities for women.

    Replies: @ben tillman, @Lot

    I’m not sure what you meant when you said “it’s not a law.”

    I mean that “Title IX in the colloquial sense” is not a law. There is no law focusing on sports scholarships by sex.

  122. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Jonathan Mason

    Good God, man, where have you been watching women's tennis? In your blue-balled imagination? If you want anything "stretched tautly," then go for women's figure skating. There you will find beauty.

    https://olympicgirls.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/sasha-cohen-splits.jpg?w=580&h=303&crop=1

    Replies: @Matt Buckalew, @Captain Tripps, @Anonymous, @ATate, @YetAnotherAnon, @JohnPlywood

    Whew! That’s almost NSFW…but thanks!

  123. @Jack D
    @Anonymous

    I have a family member who takes Humira. They send it by overnight courier in an insulated box with gel packs (it only needs to be refrigerated, not frozen) and a temperature indicator dot that changes color if the temperature limits have been exceeded (we've never gotten a shipment where they have). Once you open the box the Humira is in an EpiPen type dispenser - you press the tip of the dispenser to your skin and click the button and a spring loaded recessed hypodermic needle injects you.

    For most of the current Covid vaccines you'd need to replace the gel packs with dry ice but this distribution model could work, especially if you could combine all of the doses for a household into one shipment. It could be a supplement to the existing (painfully slow) vaccination programs rather than a substitute, focusing on people in rural areas remote from vaccination centers, the homebound, etc. Amazon and their shipping partners handle millions of boxes per day (and even more in the holiday season) so a few million more would not pose a big challenge.

    Operation Warp Speed was an incredible program to produce a vaccine in record time but they seem to have completely dropped the ball on distribution. Most of the states are only getting up to speed now when they had many months to be preparing while the vaccines were in development.

    Replies: @danand, @Johann Ricke, @Wilkey

    “Amazon and their shipping partners handle millions of boxes per day (and even more in the holiday season)…”

    This past holiday season it crossed my mind I might have to substitute a std gift of Jeni’s ice cream. It ships with dry ice, my thinking being that dry ice might be the new toilet tissue; as Pfizer had suggested it might be an issue. Turned out it was a not, their bewildered response to my inquiry left me feeling a bit queer for asking.

    On a couple of occasions I’ve left the pints sealed in their styrofoam insulated boxes for days, and when opened found they remained frozen solid.

    DE496D1C-6FD0-4F04-A01A-DAD5AD9C8CD7

    Wonder where J&J’s one dose vaccine is in its evaluation/release?

    • Replies: @Dan Smith
    @danand

    I'm in the process of enrolling as a study participant for Phase 3 trial of Novavax. If it's approved, big improvement over currently approved Covid vaccine. Can be stored at normal refrigeration temperature. Much less chance of inadvertent spoilage during transport and storage.

    , @HammerJack
    @danand

    Never heard of jeni's before. Thanks.

    Looks like responsibly sourced dairy.

  124. If gender is a social construct, then why have separate sports leagues in the first place? Mix everyone together. No separate leagues for females.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @Abelard Lindsey

    May indeed be where it's headed, but people don't want to admit the implications.

  125. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Jonathan Mason

    Good God, man, where have you been watching women's tennis? In your blue-balled imagination? If you want anything "stretched tautly," then go for women's figure skating. There you will find beauty.

    https://olympicgirls.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/sasha-cohen-splits.jpg?w=580&h=303&crop=1

    Replies: @Matt Buckalew, @Captain Tripps, @Anonymous, @ATate, @YetAnotherAnon, @JohnPlywood

    Women’s volleyball 👊

    6-foot women with 24-inch leaps 👊

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl-93yuqVu0

    6’ tall... 2’ standing leap... and... 100% feminine and gorgeous

  126. @Jonathan Mason
    If Cristiano Ronaldo decides to cut off his dick so that he can prolong his career for a few more years, Portugal will have a serious chance of winning the women's soccer World Cup.

    Christine Ronaldo could break all kinds of records in the women's game, like scoring a dozen goals in a single game with his left foot.

    Replies: @Travis, @Jeff, @Brutusale, @Anon7, @HA, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Ghost of Bull Moose

    It will be tempting for some male tennis players to declare themselves female to play in Wimbledon or the US Open , since the prize money is equal to the men’s tournaments. A man ranked 150th in the world would easily dominate and win all the grand slam events each year against the female competition. No need to have surgery , just state that you always felt like a little girl inside, wear a nice wig and put on some make-up.

    • LOL: mark green
  127. @Jack D
    @Anonymous

    I have a family member who takes Humira. They send it by overnight courier in an insulated box with gel packs (it only needs to be refrigerated, not frozen) and a temperature indicator dot that changes color if the temperature limits have been exceeded (we've never gotten a shipment where they have). Once you open the box the Humira is in an EpiPen type dispenser - you press the tip of the dispenser to your skin and click the button and a spring loaded recessed hypodermic needle injects you.

    For most of the current Covid vaccines you'd need to replace the gel packs with dry ice but this distribution model could work, especially if you could combine all of the doses for a household into one shipment. It could be a supplement to the existing (painfully slow) vaccination programs rather than a substitute, focusing on people in rural areas remote from vaccination centers, the homebound, etc. Amazon and their shipping partners handle millions of boxes per day (and even more in the holiday season) so a few million more would not pose a big challenge.

    Operation Warp Speed was an incredible program to produce a vaccine in record time but they seem to have completely dropped the ball on distribution. Most of the states are only getting up to speed now when they had many months to be preparing while the vaccines were in development.

    Replies: @danand, @Johann Ricke, @Wilkey

    Operation Warp Speed was an incredible program to produce a vaccine in record time but they seem to have completely dropped the ball on distribution. Most of the states are only getting up to speed now when they had many months to be preparing while the vaccines were in development.

    In their defense, they weren’t expecting a proven (i.e. not Chinese or Russian) vaccine to materialize for a while. Meanwhile, they were racking their brains for ways to get out of their fiscal dilemma from either shutdowns or economic downturns that have accompanied even non-shutdown states. Then there was the delicate balancing act between cracking down on a BLM/Antifa-initiated crime wave and getting pilloried by a far left media that views these criminals as their operations arm, while getting high fives from limo liberal/independent (aka Biden) voters mostly insulated from the mayhem and destruction.

  128. @photondancer
    Of all the problems facing the USA right now, Biden has consistently prioritised the transgender agenda. I *really* want to know who is behind it. They are extraordinarily good at getting their way.

    Replies: @unit472, @Thoughts, @Mike Tre, @Dumbo, @Walsh2, @peterike, @Michelle, @Getaclue, @Thea, @BenKenobi, @Buffalo Joe, @Jeff, @Desiderius, @Desiderius, @Anon, @Cornbeef, @Dennis Dale, @CCZ

    Pritzker Family of Billionaires out of Chicago basically hoisted it on the USA at every level by spending hundreds of millions to do it. They are also mostly responsible for installing Obama — one of them is a Tranny “Jennifer” but they all are in on it as they are invested in Medical and stand to make a killing off it I read….This gives you an idea of the Billionaires pushing this on children:

    https://thefederalist.com/2018/02/20/rich-white-men-institutionalizing-transgender-ideology/

    https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2020/07/27/how-lgbt-nonprofits-and-their-billionaire-patrons-are-reshaping-the-world/

    • Replies: @photondancer
    @Getaclue

    Thanks for the links. Several people have mentioned Pritzker so I'll look into it.

  129. @Peter Johnson
    Wow.

    This is possibly a big deal.

    Society can pretend that African-Americans have the same average cognitive ability as white Americans. That delusion causes many problems but it is sustainable for many people, with lots of hard work. It is causing massive problems, but that delusion is sustained so far in the public sphere.

    The recent new delusion that males and females have the same average physical abilities at sports is entirely unsustainable. No matter how hard people try to believe it and how strong the pressure/censorship by the mainstream media and internet monopolies, they will not be able to sustain it generally in the public mind.

    This policy change will also piss off the moms and dads of athletically-talented girls, who will now be cut out of sports achievement (since they are not excellent compared to males, with their entirely different body shapes, muscle mass, etc.). Will these parents be allowed to express their displeasure publicly, or will they be harshly censored and vindictively targeted?

    Replies: @bomag, @International Jew, @Anon, @jb, @dearieme, @Getaclue, @TWS, @Forbes, @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle

    If you do some research you will find the parents and girls who protest this lunacy are targeted — by their Coaches and School Admins etc. most Coaching Associations etc. are all for this…. — most parents do nothing because they are scared of reprisals and losing their livelihoods etc. — this the “New Amerika” — stand up for what is right and you will be destroyed — Wray’s FBI will probably find some way to railroad you too — call you a “White Supremacist” or whatever it takes — the FBI is little more than a KGB for the NWO/Dems and blatantly acts that way with no push back. The country is destroyed.

  130. I played baseball at a private engineering school in the late 1970’s. We were very good for our level, three guys on our roster were signed to minor league contracts. Made the NCAA D3 tournament once.

    I understood, however, that as a non-revenue sport at a small university, we were absolutely at the discretion of the school’s administration to fund/support/continue our participation. The administrators could have shut down our humble little program at any time. They didn’t. I was grateful for that, baseball practice helped ease the pain of physics and calculus classes.

    No one has a “right” to play sports, period.
    And certainly, no one has a “right” to play a sport when the market doesn’t support it.

  131. @photondancer
    Of all the problems facing the USA right now, Biden has consistently prioritised the transgender agenda. I *really* want to know who is behind it. They are extraordinarily good at getting their way.

    Replies: @unit472, @Thoughts, @Mike Tre, @Dumbo, @Walsh2, @peterike, @Michelle, @Getaclue, @Thea, @BenKenobi, @Buffalo Joe, @Jeff, @Desiderius, @Desiderius, @Anon, @Cornbeef, @Dennis Dale, @CCZ

    Liberal wealthy white and Jewish women. Those are the voters who respond to the poor victim of (insert group) narrative at the polls.

    It makes them feel special and like they are superheroes saving the downtrodden with their votes.

  132. @Anonymous
    To quote an old English saying:

    "Biden is both a fool and and a knave, a prick and a c*nt".

    (Literally).

    Replies: @JimB

    “Biden is both a fool and and a knave, a prick and a c*nt”.

    Are you sure about the parallel construction? Knave aligns with prick, while fool aligns with cunt.

    “Biden is both a knave and and afool, a prick and a c*nt.”

    At this point, I don’t think our senile figurehead, Faux Biden, knows what he is signing. He is neither fool nor a Knave. He is a human autopen like the Philip Green character in the Scorsese film, Casino; just a frontman CEO for the mob.The Democrat Politburo is ruling by decree now. And to think it all started by electing our first third world politician, Obama, to the office of president. I have to admit that I didn’t see this coming so quickly, but perhaps the malevolent Hillary wouldn’t have been so different.

  133. @Kyle
    @Rosie

    The last time I was in an airport the university of Iowa girls field hockey team walked by me. The were all sub 5’5” and +150 lbs. They were all short, fat, snot nosed, and pimply faced. They all resembled 14 year olds even though I’m sure they must have been 18-21. There was no intensity or focus in their demeanor, it was just a giggling gaggle of plump juvenile females. Which is fine, but when you start reconciling that with the reality of what you’re seeing it starts to seem ridiculous. Their parents are paying tens of thousands of dollars for them to attend a large state school, and they’re flying around the country to play what’s essentially a children’s game. We’ve cut boys soccer & cross country for this? Something doesn’t seem quite right. You see impressive female athletes on TV, such as track runners or distance swimmers, so it’s jarring to see the reality of female athleticism up close.

    Replies: @dearieme, @Jack D, @Spud Boy, @Paperback Writer, @Truth

    “Their parents are paying tens of thousands of dollars for them to attend a large state school…”

    No, they probably have field hockey scholarships, making the situation even more ludicrous.

  134. Schadenfreude!!!! I am pleased seeing the athletics division of bitches United taking a big hit. Go to hell feminist cunts a women without a family is worthless move on to evolutionary extinction.

  135. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Clyde

    Yeah, well a lot of us don't want a lot of stuff.

    Feral Gov't messing with your life, ladies?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD94dVu8lqQ

    Replies: @Do You Even Lift

    OT: Achmed, I find most of your comments amusing, so I checked out your website and liked it, lots of clever and funny stuff, but there was one major problem: Your post about the more-than-ample derriere attached to the woman on the treadmill at your gym had an interior photo taken at Orange Theory. Please tell me that this is just some stock photo that you grabbed off the net, and you aren’t actually a member there. For iSteve readers unfamiliar with the world of physical fitness (Which I would guess is around 90%, because snarkiness inversely correlates with strength and vigor. If there ever is a real-world iSteve get-together, it will be BYOR. Bring Your Own Rascal), Orange Theory is a feminized, foo-foo, suburban Soccer Mom “gym” that is all cardio, no weights. Oh wait, they do have some 5-pound dumbells that you can attempt to curl while you text your lunch order to the Whole Foods deli. Orange Theory makes Planet Fitness look like Gold’s.

    I’ll check back at your site in a couple days, if you can post a pic of yourself at a real gym, bench pressing your bodyweight for reps (Or squatting 1.5 x bodyweight), I’ll become a regular reader.
    And btw, my own physical-to-mental-strength comparison would be something like this: (Read it in a Russian accent) “Strong like bull, smart like tractor!”

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Do You Even Lift

    Thanks for the comment, Mr. Lift.

    a) Yeah, that was a file photo. In fact, I even had some wording to that effect due to this photo didn't represent well the little gym I was in, but you can't be too picky with "gym people with faces masks". I think I've heard of these Orange Theory gyms or maybe just passed one by on the road.

    b) As for your handle, I don't lift, in general. I have bench-pressed over 2 x my body weight when I was way younger, and I'm sure I could lift my body weight on a machine now. However, with free weights, I'm not so sure I could do it right away I have not done squats ever, so I don't know about that.

    c) I go to the gym for Cardio, and occasional other bar-bell exercises, that's all

    d) There's no way I want to put pictures and other ID info. on the site.

    That means you'll just have to be an irregular reader of Peak Stupidity. If you get tired of being irregular you can always go for a Morning Constitutional. "Irregular", get it? ;-}

    Replies: @Do You Even Lift

    , @Trinity
    @Do You Even Lift

    Hmm, I always had my best results lifting at home or at a small gym. Gym memberships are generally way too high and what you really pay for is relatively useless expensive machines that don't work the stabilizer muscles and cause muscle imbalances. Machines are fine for older people, physically handicapped people or people healing injuries. Kettlebells are also an expensive tool that people believe is some kind of miracle breakthrough in fitness. There was a reason why kettlebells collected dust for SEVERAL decades except everywhere but Eastern Europe, they are cumbersome, wreck the wrists, elbows and forearms and dumbbells are far more practical and safer. Any kettlebell exercise can be performed with a dumbbell or dumbbells.

    People, save yourself some money and buy a pair of dumbbells, weights can be as cheap as a penny or two a pound if you buy them second hand. You can do one exercise and maintain a good strength base and conditioning. Dumbbell cleans and presses/push presses work the entire body and cardiovascular system if done with enough reps and intensity. Hill sprints/runs/walking can't be beat and burpees for are invaluable. For the elderly or out of shape, stick with just basic bodybuilding movements and IF possible by all means stay away from machines if you are able. Do compound exercises and stay away from fluff exercises that only isolate muscle groups, train your body as a single unit. Machines wreak havoc on your joints, the body is moving in an unnatural position. IF nothing else just simply walk every day or better yet swim. IF you are woefully out of shape just start off walking and build up slowly, or if you cannot do pushups do wall pushups or pushups off a table. Start slowly, small steps to the moon.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

  136. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jonathan Mason

    Jonathan, that sounds like a snippet from Penthouse Forum ...

    ... from the 1970's! The problem with your scenario is that the women tennis players today aren't sexy like they were in the 1970s. They are to the point where I don't care what color their panties are ... let's see, what's on CNN, when's the war with Russia ...


    .

    ... or is it just me?

    Replies: @Liberty Mike, @Spud Boy

    “…women tennis players today aren’t sexy like they were in the 1970s…”

    Check out Eugenie Bouchard. (I don’t know how to post a photo.)

  137. @Rosie
    @Guy De Champlagne


    And then there’s a whole bunch of other reasons that men should hate feminism so that even if they don’t care about sports or hate jocks they should still be opposed to Title IX.
     
    Yes, I often get the impression that your average Unz piglet thinks no more deeply than that.

    Feminism bad.

    It reminds me of GOPe stooges screeching "That's socialism" about any government expenditure not aimed at helping billionaires.

    Replies: @Getaclue

    Bad? It has very much helped to destroy Western Civilization/USA and got us where we are today in large part — but you probably like that. So enjoy “Bruce” in the toilet with you – – Feminists are disgusting – – “piglets” hmmm I won’t say but light years past that — self righteous arsonists. Men have been getting screwed over for many decades now as to the “oppressed” women, who actually have way more than 50% of the money as the men die sooner and who are privileged in every manner including in criminal prosecutions, Divorce, College selection, job quotas etc. so tired of them and their whining for every advantage they don’t deserve — so here you go — yes enjoy “Bruce” in the toilet with you and in your daughter’s shower, he’s harmless just ask “it”.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Getaclue

    That's a nice laundry list of unsupported nonsense you have there. A suggestion: Pick one point and make a coherent case so we can have a rational discussion about it.

  138. @Rosie
    It's no surprise that the very first comment here is a Nanna Nanna boo boo from some juvenile little manosphere jackass.

    But on a more substantive note, what exactly is the objection to Title IX?

    EDIT, not just the first one, but the second one, too.

    How many comments before a normal guy chimes in? Or is it just male chauvinist piglets all the way down?

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Buzz Mohawk, @Intelligent Dasein, @Guy De Champlagne, @Kyle, @Kyle, @Mike Tre, @Neoconned, @Anonymous, @Ben tillman, @Not Only Wrathful, @S. Anonyia, @Old and Grumpy, @Mr. Anon, @TWS, @Bel Riose, @SunBakedSuburb, @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle, @Reg Cæsar, @Rob, @jon, @TruthHammer, @donut, @Unladen Swallow, @Chrisnonymous, @Paperback Writer

    Go for a walk. Write a book. Go to church. Whatever you do quit reading unz.

    You’re warping your perception and turning loony. Find a normal life before you really turn into the female version of tiny duck, before you become another exhibit in the internet menagerie.

  139. @Henry's Cat
    Since nobody really cares about female sports, which mainly subsist on the coattails of the men, it's easy to dismiss this issue as insignificant or irrelevant. If, however, a geezer won the women's tennis Grand Slam that would certainly put the cat amongst the pigeons. But would any man have the chutzpah, not to say the balls, to carry it off? No Serena jokes, please.

    Replies: @ben tillman, @YetAnotherAnon, @Servant of Gla'aki, @Dave from Oz

    It must be very tempting for a lower-ranked male player to “transition” (which apparently doesn’t mandate hormones or surgery) and start winning tennis tournaments. Though it’s not just about muscle – Federer’s thighs and Serena’s upper arms are about the same size.

    “nobody really cares about female sports, which mainly subsist on the coattails of the men”

    But the “sports” where grace is involved may still see female champions – ice dance anyway. Gymnastics might be another, the floor exercises at least.

    Pity about pole vault, currently with the most fit (in every sense) females.

    One glorious outcome will be the complete replacement of the US Women’s Soccer team, at least until they realise no one will want to play them.

  140. @Peter Johnson
    Wow.

    This is possibly a big deal.

    Society can pretend that African-Americans have the same average cognitive ability as white Americans. That delusion causes many problems but it is sustainable for many people, with lots of hard work. It is causing massive problems, but that delusion is sustained so far in the public sphere.

    The recent new delusion that males and females have the same average physical abilities at sports is entirely unsustainable. No matter how hard people try to believe it and how strong the pressure/censorship by the mainstream media and internet monopolies, they will not be able to sustain it generally in the public mind.

    This policy change will also piss off the moms and dads of athletically-talented girls, who will now be cut out of sports achievement (since they are not excellent compared to males, with their entirely different body shapes, muscle mass, etc.). Will these parents be allowed to express their displeasure publicly, or will they be harshly censored and vindictively targeted?

    Replies: @bomag, @International Jew, @Anon, @jb, @dearieme, @Getaclue, @TWS, @Forbes, @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle

    I’m going with shamed and penalized. Lose their job, minor legal troubles.

  141. I don’t care. Hope they get it good and hard.

    Looking over my FB posts from yesterday and I see most of the gloating from the Biden inauguration and power fist poses are from WHITE females. One twat had the nerve to say NOW she feels hopeful for her country. You cunt, I’m hopeful for my country no matter which asshole is in office and no matter what color tie he wears.

    Acting like Kamala did some extraordinary thing in getting picked as a token by a dottering old boomer. Jesus.

    Fuck women’s sports. I like to ride a road bike and so pay attention to pro cycling from time to time and the lectures on why there should be more money for women cyclists is a gross topic that pops up all the time.

    I hope they all get to enjoy it immensely.

    After what I’ve seen and experienced in the last 4 years the gloves are fucking off! And I’ll be here to gloat when the first virtue signaling Dad is moaning about how Britney was raped at Soccer practice by someone named Emma…who was born as Ernie.

  142. @danand
    @Jack D

    “Amazon and their shipping partners handle millions of boxes per day (and even more in the holiday season)...”

    This past holiday season it crossed my mind I might have to substitute a std gift of Jeni’s ice cream. It ships with dry ice, my thinking being that dry ice might be the new toilet tissue; as Pfizer had suggested it might be an issue. Turned out it was a not, their bewildered response to my inquiry left me feeling a bit queer for asking.

    On a couple of occasions I’ve left the pints sealed in their styrofoam insulated boxes for days, and when opened found they remained frozen solid.

    https://flic.kr/p/2kuitRu

    Wonder where J&J’s one dose vaccine is in its evaluation/release?

    Replies: @Dan Smith, @HammerJack

    I’m in the process of enrolling as a study participant for Phase 3 trial of Novavax. If it’s approved, big improvement over currently approved Covid vaccine. Can be stored at normal refrigeration temperature. Much less chance of inadvertent spoilage during transport and storage.

  143. @International Jew
    @bomag

    That won't solve the problem. Girls playing soccer and basketball (to say nothing of wrestling) with boys will get physically injured. That's a lot more serious than the likes of Michelle Obama feeling inadequate around Princeton classmates with 30 IQ points on her.

    Replies: @Cortes, @bomag

    I’m thinking the contact sports will fade away, or become all trans. Or will be club sports, and when the trans show up, it melts away to be formed elsewhere for as long as the trans can be avoided.

    Softball, volleyball, tennis, etc. will be tiered.

    I recall a bar conversation over the local women’s softball league. Someone asked what was the difference between the A league and the B league; “if you look like a dyke, you play A.”

  144. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Guy De Champlagne

    How the hell I could agree completely with Mr. Champlagne is what I want to know. Agree.

    Replies: @Jack Armstrong

    Strange days indeed.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jack Armstrong

    Most peculiar, Mama.

  145. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Jonathan Mason

    Good God, man, where have you been watching women's tennis? In your blue-balled imagination? If you want anything "stretched tautly," then go for women's figure skating. There you will find beauty.

    https://olympicgirls.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/sasha-cohen-splits.jpg?w=580&h=303&crop=1

    Replies: @Matt Buckalew, @Captain Tripps, @Anonymous, @ATate, @YetAnotherAnon, @JohnPlywood

    Meh, to each their own. I see that and think…Gross. I have bigger tits than she does.

    (also, gross).

    • LOL: Buzz Mohawk
  146. @Jack D
    @Anonymous

    I have a family member who takes Humira. They send it by overnight courier in an insulated box with gel packs (it only needs to be refrigerated, not frozen) and a temperature indicator dot that changes color if the temperature limits have been exceeded (we've never gotten a shipment where they have). Once you open the box the Humira is in an EpiPen type dispenser - you press the tip of the dispenser to your skin and click the button and a spring loaded recessed hypodermic needle injects you.

    For most of the current Covid vaccines you'd need to replace the gel packs with dry ice but this distribution model could work, especially if you could combine all of the doses for a household into one shipment. It could be a supplement to the existing (painfully slow) vaccination programs rather than a substitute, focusing on people in rural areas remote from vaccination centers, the homebound, etc. Amazon and their shipping partners handle millions of boxes per day (and even more in the holiday season) so a few million more would not pose a big challenge.

    Operation Warp Speed was an incredible program to produce a vaccine in record time but they seem to have completely dropped the ball on distribution. Most of the states are only getting up to speed now when they had many months to be preparing while the vaccines were in development.

    Replies: @danand, @Johann Ricke, @Wilkey

    This sounds like just standard Amazon PR douchebaggery. I don’t think that UPS & Fedex are the chokepoint. We have doctors’ offices in my office building – not a particularly large one – and UPS and Fedex trucks are here literally every day. Most hospitals, clinics, and even doctors’ offices probably see them every day, as well. For Fedex and UPS a vaccine shipment is just an extra box for a place they’re probably already going to.

    From what I understand Amazon doesn’t deliver its own stuff in rural areas, anyway. It delivers in cities where it has warehouses, but in small towns it hands off to the major package carriers.

    The chokepoints are in the manufacturing of the drug, on the front end, and at the hospitals, clinics, and pharmacies which are supposed to be giving the vaccines to people. And the latter is probably only due to the states not giving them adequate instructions. Probably it’s all just about them getting the word out to people who are eligible to come in and get their damn vaccine.

    Shipping to homes doesn’t make much sense. The number of shipments going out from the manufacturer would increase exponentially, as would the amount of packaging materials, dry ice, etc., that were needed. Their model didn’t plan for that. And once the vaccines were delivered most people wouldn’t feel comfortable giving it to themselves.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Wilkey

    "Most people" wouldn't get the vaccine this way but it would be one more channel. Right now, if you try to getting the vaccine thru the channels that have been set up, you can't get an appointment in most places even if you are in a high risk group. You go on the portals that have been set up (if any) and there are no appointments available. People are looking at months and months before they can get the vaccine. I know a couple in NY in their early 70s (one just recovered from leukemia) who were supposed to get the vaccine this week but instead they got Covid first. I think there are plenty of households (not all) that would be delighted to receive a box of 4 or 5 EpiPen type devices loaded with the Covid vaccine in the mail tomorrow so they could take it and give it to grandma and their adult children instead of waiting several months more for a vaccine appointment. I know that I would jump at that chance. In the box would be instructions and a barcode link to an online video demonstration. Honest to goodness I've seen it done and it's not rocket science. They teach 12 year olds of average intelligence how to self-administer an EpiPen.

    Replies: @Clyde, @JerseyJeffersonian

  147. Steve, This is a horrible development regarding womens sports, but…….

    … let me digress to your previous article about the 1917 terrorist panic aimed at German-Americans. Germans became docile instead of demonstrative.

    Exactly the same with the super intelligent Japanese after Internment. They kept there heads down, down down. Think of the amazing waste of brainpower. They were really on their way before this. They dominated the entire California strawberry market prior to internment. After the war and horrible imprisonment and demonization, instead of getting there kids in the best colleges, “Shell-shocked Japanese parent told there kids, to just quietly get a degree and/or job. No big ambitions thanks to being demonized in the worst way during WW2.

    I bought a place from an internee in the 90’s. He was the best man ever, but he and his wife were so “careful” even with me 50 years later. It like they were saying to me, “we want no trouble with you.”

    Good Luck in 2121, with the newly declared war on Americans again.

    • Replies: @bomag
    @Lemon


    Germans became docile instead of demonstrative... same with the super intelligent Japanese
     
    Largely a function of them being obedient, rule following people.

    If the rules say be mean, they are very good at being mean.

    If the rules say be nice, they are very good at being nice.

    Today the rules are to abolish themselves. We need better rules.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

  148. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Jonathan Mason

    Good God, man, where have you been watching women's tennis? In your blue-balled imagination? If you want anything "stretched tautly," then go for women's figure skating. There you will find beauty.

    https://olympicgirls.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/sasha-cohen-splits.jpg?w=580&h=303&crop=1

    Replies: @Matt Buckalew, @Captain Tripps, @Anonymous, @ATate, @YetAnotherAnon, @JohnPlywood

    Her ankles are in different time zones!

  149. @International Jew
    Maybe we were all better off before girls sports became a big thing. Even playing against other girls, girl soccer and basketball players suffer way more than their share of concussions and fractures. And then there's track where once we had sensible limits on girls' distance events but now we tempt girls to train themselves into amenorrhea.

    Replies: @Rosie, @S. Anonyia

    Sensible limits on women’s distance events? Are you referring to the absurd ban on women running more than 200 meters after some pansy Olympic officials got horrified that the women competing in the 1928 800 were breathing too heavily?

    Running is one the best activities possible for a woman; prevents osteoporosis, makes it easier to physically bear children, and lowers the risk of various cancers.

    Only a small percentage of elite female runners get amenorrhea. Elite male runners are prone to eating disorders, but it doesn’t get much press. Such is the price of being an elite athlete. Lots of elite athletes take harmful steroids too, doesn’t mean we should discourage regular people from participating in sport and striving for physical improvement and well-being.

    Girls running track or cross-country on your typical high school varsity team are among the healthiest in their age groups.

    Also- girls’ sports existed and were even popular long before Title 9. My great-grandmother played high school basketball in the 1920s, and my great-aunt was a competitive swimmer for her all-girls Catholic high school in the early 40s. She even traveled to surrounding states for meets, mostly with other private schools.

    We’d be better off if sports were less of a “big thing” for men, too. It’s true that everything was more casual decades ago.

    Generally I think sports at the youth and high school level are great, but they are problematic at the college level. Should be clubs aside from what is financially sustainable. That would probably only leave a few sports for men and women alike. Y’all overestimate the popularity of men’s sports among spectators beyond football, basketball, baseball, and track/field.

  150. @Rosie
    @Guy De Champlagne


    Title IX combined with the fact that men are better a sports means that a woman gets more sports program and scholarship funding than an equally skilled man.
     
    If you have a problem with 50/50, what percentage of athletic budgets do you think should be allocated to women’s sports? 25%, 10%, or were you thinking more along the lines of a 100/0 split?

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @TelfoedJohn, @ben tillman, @GamecockJerry, @Mike Tre, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @TheMan, @Guy De Champlagne, @Paperback Writer, @JR Ewing

    100/0 is cool with me.

  151. I would have loved to see if one of these transgender “athletes” would have had the guts to take on Ann Wolfe when she was in her prime in the ring. Of course they would have to make weight although Ann could have probably fought some at a catchweight and still kicked their sorry asses.

    Dafne Schipper, a female athlete who looks like a Nordic goddess could easily support one of these freaks in any track and field event. And Schipper is still young enough to compete unlike Ann.

    Biden? I’m guessing he could cover the 40 in about 5 minutes.

    • Replies: @jon
    @Trinity


    I would have loved to see if one of these transgender “athletes” would have had the guts to take on Ann Wolfe when she was in her prime in the ring.
     
    Fallon Fox had the "guts" to crush a women's skull in the ring, so I am guessing plenty of other trans athletes would have the guts to take on this women I've never heard of.

    Replies: @Trinity

  152. @Clyde
    These girls and women don't want a guy in their locker room and showers.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Lot, @guest007, @Forbes, @Servant of Gla'aki, @Desiderius, @Bite Moi, @Bartleby the Scrivner, @Truth

    Sentence too long, cut last 6 words.

    • Replies: @ATate
    @Lot

    Yeesh.

    She got in trouble a while ago for beating her wife.

  153. @Rosie
    @ben tillman


    No, that’s not what Title IX is about. Title IX is about education.
     
    He was using the term Title IX in the colloquial sense. There’s even a sports apparel/athleisure company named after it, because contrary to popular belief, most active women like being women and want to look like women.

    Also, I'm not sure what you meant when you said "it's not a law." It is indeed a federal statute, though I assume bureaucratic regulations interpreting the statute specifically address the question of athletics.

    https://www.titlenine.com/active-dresses/

    The undergraduate population at Florida State consists of of 14,104 males and 18,368 females. Would you require FSU to expel 4,264 female students, or what?
     
    No, that's absurd. If I'm not mistaken, engineering departments are as gender-imbalanced as nursing departments, and I don't think they should kick men out either. I don't see what that has to do with whether colleges and universities should provide equal athletic opportunities for women.

    Replies: @ben tillman, @Lot

    “ I don’t see what that has to do with whether colleges and universities should provide equal athletic opportunities for women.”

    The current rule is equal outcomes, not opportunities. The pool of women who want to be college athletes is much smaller, but they get the same number of spots.

    In addition to being unfair, it also results in upper and upper-middle class families putting gigantic resources and pressure onto high school girls to use athletics for a scholarship or preferential admission.

    Higher education in the USA is now so fully a force for evil, anything to damage and disrupt it, such as obnoxious trannies, is positive.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Lot


    The current rule is equal outcomes, not opportunities.
     
    Not in the case of athletics, it isn't.

    In addition to being unfair, it also results in upper and upper-middle class families putting gigantic resources and pressure onto high school girls to use athletics for a scholarship or preferential admission.
     
    In other words, young girls are spending more time exercising and thinking nabout their future and less time chasing boys.

    That sounds like a fabulously successful policy to me.

    Higher education in the USA is now so fully a force for evil,
     So long as it is at women's expense, not men's.

    https://californiahealthline.org/morning-breakout/teen-sex-girl-athletes-less-likely-to-become-pregnant-endstoryhed/#:~:text=A%20new%20nationwide%20survey%20has,reports%20(5%2F14).

  154. White women – it’s the way they wants it . . . Well, they gets it.

  155. Women’s sports are not conservative.

    They were initially banned or strongly discouraged. Then, they were legalized through congress in the 1970s, like so many other bad decisions made around that time period.

    If Joe Biden is destroying women’s sports, he is a conservative. Dontcha get that?

    He may not be intentionally doing it, and his method is not conservative, but the outcome Shrier proposes is.

    MtF transsexuals are one of the best things to happen to this country. Finally, the bulldykes are losing clout in society.

    Who doesn’t like that? Raise your hands!

  156. I still have not been able to see a youtube of that MMA match where the tranny busted the woman’s face. This was the time when all the progressive goodie-two-shoeses decided that Joe Rogan was also a nazi because he didn’t like it.

    Can’t make up my mind whether I am for it or against it. This might be the odd occasion when three wrongs make a wrong. Perhaps Sista Souljah could make sense from it.

    Any links to videos of trannies beating the crap out of women in combat sports?

  157. Sorry, Martina. I’m all for it.

    I’d also like to see a high school girls wresting team, middleweight division contest wherein one of the competitors is an XY who has been offered a wresting scholarship at Oklahoma.

    Demolished.

    I also support a mandate for high school-aged, XY boys to take XX girl health classes.

    Unisex locker rooms are a great idea, too.

    Public education is a political institution.

  158. @Rosie
    It's no surprise that the very first comment here is a Nanna Nanna boo boo from some juvenile little manosphere jackass.

    But on a more substantive note, what exactly is the objection to Title IX?

    EDIT, not just the first one, but the second one, too.

    How many comments before a normal guy chimes in? Or is it just male chauvinist piglets all the way down?

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Buzz Mohawk, @Intelligent Dasein, @Guy De Champlagne, @Kyle, @Kyle, @Mike Tre, @Neoconned, @Anonymous, @Ben tillman, @Not Only Wrathful, @S. Anonyia, @Old and Grumpy, @Mr. Anon, @TWS, @Bel Riose, @SunBakedSuburb, @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle, @Reg Cæsar, @Rob, @jon, @TruthHammer, @donut, @Unladen Swallow, @Chrisnonymous, @Paperback Writer

    And it’s no surprise that the third comment here is from you, our resident Karen, scolding us for finding humor in a humorous situation.

    Tell us – do you troll this site on an hourly basis, eagerly awaiting a comment or an article that discusses women, so that you can jump in and post your usual woman-good-man-bad comments? Given the regularity with which you post here, we can safely assume you are a stay at home mom whose husband (Corvinus?) is out working his ass off, so that you can continue to plague this site with your presence.

    Newsflash, you feminist shill: one of the many objections to Title IX is that it results in the elimination of men’s sports programs, in order to achieve an equal number of female programs.

    For example: State U has 20 men’s sports programs and only 10 women’s sports programs. Title IX does not add 10 more women’s programs. Instead, to achieve “equality,” it simply cuts 10 men’s programs.

    Voila! Instant equality.

    I’m sure you find that an entirely fair and reasonable result, but then again, you are a feminist lunatic.

    Anti-male, anti-white females like yourself are a menace to this country. You are living proof of the Greek philosopher who said “Teaching a woman to write is like giving poison to an asp.”

    Simply stated: you are a mass of enraged estrogen which has somehow taken human form, and then gained access to a keyboard and the internet.

    • LOL: Buffalo Joe
  159. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Jonathan Mason

    Good God, man, where have you been watching women's tennis? In your blue-balled imagination? If you want anything "stretched tautly," then go for women's figure skating. There you will find beauty.

    https://olympicgirls.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/sasha-cohen-splits.jpg?w=580&h=303&crop=1

    Replies: @Matt Buckalew, @Captain Tripps, @Anonymous, @ATate, @YetAnotherAnon, @JohnPlywood

    It resembles a pugnacious gremlin. I fail to see how anyone can see anything attractive here.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @JohnPlywood

    We can be pretty sure she wouldn't find you attractive either.

  160. @Henry's Cat
    Talking of female champions, when are we going to find out who shot Ashli Babbitt?

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Anonymous, @Morton's toes, @Ron Mexico

  161. @Clyde
    These girls and women don't want a guy in their locker room and showers.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Lot, @guest007, @Forbes, @Servant of Gla'aki, @Desiderius, @Bite Moi, @Bartleby the Scrivner, @Truth

    Who says that Gen X care about showers or locker rooms. No one wants to take a shower in a crowded room where everyone has a cell phone. They change clothes at home and never take showers in public.

  162. @Jack D
    @Rosie

    Maybe the solution is to get government out of the business of micro-regulating every single aspect of our lives and let individual colleges and sports groups, etc. make their own decisions as to who they want on their teams and by what rules their sport should be governed, because they know more about their sport than the government does?

    Central government control of sports and sports spending doesn't work any better than central government control of the economy and capital spending. You end up with wild misallocations and distortions because government feedback mechanisms are slow and crude compared to market mechanisms. Resources are allocated based on political considerations rather than demand and the results are far from optimal. Even when excesses are noted, it can take years or decades to correct them because the wheels of government grind slowly.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @MBlanc46

    Whoa, that’s Jack D. coming out as a Libertarian! You’ve got to have a thick skin now, Jack. They’ll call you all sorts of names. Just call them anti-Libites back. ;-}

    .

    oops and:

    • Fuckin’ A!:. @ Achmed E. Newman

    (When is Mr. Unz going to get around to adding this tag?!)

  163. @Rosie
    It's no surprise that the very first comment here is a Nanna Nanna boo boo from some juvenile little manosphere jackass.

    But on a more substantive note, what exactly is the objection to Title IX?

    EDIT, not just the first one, but the second one, too.

    How many comments before a normal guy chimes in? Or is it just male chauvinist piglets all the way down?

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Buzz Mohawk, @Intelligent Dasein, @Guy De Champlagne, @Kyle, @Kyle, @Mike Tre, @Neoconned, @Anonymous, @Ben tillman, @Not Only Wrathful, @S. Anonyia, @Old and Grumpy, @Mr. Anon, @TWS, @Bel Riose, @SunBakedSuburb, @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle, @Reg Cæsar, @Rob, @jon, @TruthHammer, @donut, @Unladen Swallow, @Chrisnonymous, @Paperback Writer

    “normal guy … ?”

    Sorry. Can’t help you.

  164. @Curle
    @Dumbo

    Saw Hope Solo in person once. She was a total babe! Bad choice in men, but that’s another matter.

    Replies: @Morton's toes, @jon

    Hope Solo was a goalie.

    Do goalies qualify as real soccer players?

    Aren’t they the European equal to punters and placekickers? At least punters and placekickers try and tackle a guy a couple times before their 25th birthday any way.

    There has been exactly one hot female athlete in my life and she never won a big tournament.

    • Replies: @Cortes
    @Morton's toes

    The skill levels of goalies with the ball at their feet have been improving, spurred by changes to various rules, most notably the passback rule and encroachment in the penalty area from bye-kicks. Some, obviously have very fine skills and their signings command premium fees, such as the transfer of Allison, the Brazilian (guy), from Roma to Liverpool a couple of years ago - fee reported to be around £65 million.

    Here’s a glimpse of fancy footwork by iconic Colombian goalie Rene Higuita:

    https://youtu.be/TRj3dKKp9tI

  165. @Rosie
    @Guy De Champlagne


    Title IX combined with the fact that men are better a sports means that a woman gets more sports program and scholarship funding than an equally skilled man.
     
    If you have a problem with 50/50, what percentage of athletic budgets do you think should be allocated to women’s sports? 25%, 10%, or were you thinking more along the lines of a 100/0 split?

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @TelfoedJohn, @ben tillman, @GamecockJerry, @Mike Tre, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @TheMan, @Guy De Champlagne, @Paperback Writer, @JR Ewing

    Is the revenue generated by women’s college sports equal to that of men’s?

    How about the interest in sports by women compared to men?

    The funny thing his, pretty much every man here (that you bash collectively) is against men competing in women’s sports (they are merely ridiculing the self inflicted wounds the left is suffering from).

    Also, missed yours and Alden’s condolences in the Kathy Shaidle post, but saw a lot of men offering theirs. Huh!

    • Replies: @Ray P
    @Mike Tre

    Kathy regularly remarked 'Thanks for nothing bitches!'.

    , @Anonymous
    @Mike Tre


    The funny thing his, pretty much every man here (that you bash collectively) is against men competing in women’s sports (they are merely ridiculing the self inflicted wounds the left is suffering from).
     
    There shouldn’t exist officially-backed segregated sports. If there are official programs at all, let there be solely one league or competition and let the participants be a selection from the best among men and women. But we must acknowledge that such programs are unfair to the non-best men who are excluded, as well as to non-best women who are excluded.
  166. Wonder what all of the woman who play sports and who proudly cast votes for Biden now think? They just had to get rid of the racist fascist orange man and now they just screwed themselves.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @KenH


    Wonder what all of the woman who play sports and who proudly cast votes for Biden now think? They just had to get rid of the racist fascist orange man and now they just screwed themselves.
     
    Why should a tiny minority of women receive benefits from these programs to the exclusion of the vast majority of women?
  167. … must admit biologically-male athletes …

    This discriminates against womens’ sports programs unless it also requires that biologically-female athletes must be admitted to men’s sports programs. The applicable quota would be proportional to the male-femnale ratio in the school itself. Suddenly, Cal Tech has a chance to beat Alabama.

    The appropriate chant would be, “We’re number 000 000 001”

  168. I had a dream last night and in my dream it was 2024 and four full years into the biden-harris administration. A certain segment of the commubity had learned to send their kids to school, teach their children that it is not right to take things just because you want them, to throw litter in a garbage can, to talk through disagreements, to say “Excuse me Officer is there a problem?”, to stop using M#%%#r F%&8#r in every sentence, to work at a job and save some money, to accept bad test results as a given when you are unprepared or unqualified, to learn the real meaning of the word “fiance”, and to learn to swim, ice skate and play lacrosse. I knew it was a dream with the lacrosse thing. I am willing to bet real money that somethings, important things like familial responsibilty, financial responsibility and criminal behavior won’t change at all, but the MSM will let that slide. Stay safe.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @Buffalo Joe


    to learn the real meaning of the word “fiancé”, and to learn to swim, ice skate and play lacrosse. I knew it was a dream with the lacrosse thing.
     
    There is always hope. We all know Jim Brown played lacrosse at Syracuse and excelled. Now that I think about it, a black dude playing lacrosse back then blew whitey's minds and got the white girls madly pursuing him.

    Jim Brown played lacrosse at Syracuse University. He started his lax career at a high school in New York called Manhasset High School. During his high school playing days, he earned 3 All-Star honors for midfield. At Syracuse, Jim Brown lettered in four sports including lacrosse and football.
     

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Clyde

  169. @Thoughts
    @photondancer

    Jill Biden

    She likes the pretty dresses and the makeup

    Gays and trannies flatter her

    Replies: @Flip

    I am thinking she’s the one who is really in charge now.

  170. @James Speaks
    D'ya think some Harris/Biden voters might be rethinking their wokeness?

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    D’ya think some Harris/Biden voters might be rethinking their wokeness?

    Only if they never thought in the first place. Biden was very clear about his support for transgenders, including allowing “women with penises” the option to to serve their time in women’s prisons.

  171. @photondancer
    Of all the problems facing the USA right now, Biden has consistently prioritised the transgender agenda. I *really* want to know who is behind it. They are extraordinarily good at getting their way.

    Replies: @unit472, @Thoughts, @Mike Tre, @Dumbo, @Walsh2, @peterike, @Michelle, @Getaclue, @Thea, @BenKenobi, @Buffalo Joe, @Jeff, @Desiderius, @Desiderius, @Anon, @Cornbeef, @Dennis Dale, @CCZ

    “The purpose of propaganda is not to persuade but to humiliate. To make the powerless complicit in a lie.”

    The purpose is demoralization. You can lose your job for pointing out that a man in a dress is not a woman. You are made complicit in the lie, and this is just one lie of a great many that we are forced to repeat.

  172. @unit472
    @photondancer

    Quite! There is no political advantage to promoting 'transgenderism'. It is a minority within a minority. There may have always been 'drag queens' just as there have always been child molesters but no politician, until Joe Biden, saw any advantage to being their 'champion'.

    Oh well, this is what you get when you make a compromised man president.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Dumbo, @Harry Baldwin, @Polistra, @dfordoom

    no politician, until Joe Biden, saw any advantage to being their ‘champion’.

    No, if you watch the Democratic primary, every candidate was equally going ho about transgenderism. Perhaps Liz Warren and Cory Booker most of all.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Harry Baldwin

    Democrat politicians are always looking to virtue signal for their Leftist bleeding heart bases (white females - blacks are just there for the gibmedats and don't really care about anything that doesn't concern black people). For a long time, being pro-gay served that function but since every battle of World War Gay has been won and the enemy utterly defeated they needed to find something new to virtue signal with and transgender seemed like the natural next (il)logical step.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Alden

  173. @HammerJack
    @Ron Mexico

    Nitwits like Rosie are exactly why we're in this mess.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb

    “why we’re in this mess”

    White men folded and passed the power to the brown and black overclass they helped create. White men believed ingrates of colour would lay laurels at their feet for their altruism. As the brand of the black goddess is seared into their flesh white men point their fingers at others and say you’re why we’re in this mess.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @SunBakedSuburb

    I’ve posted many times the list of anti White especially White man Supreme Court orders that become laws and affirmative action laws that powerful White men imposed on other White men. Brown vs Topeka, Griggs Kaiser decisions by White men judges and every president from Eisenhower to the present have been anti White.

    The foundations like Ford Rockefeller created the women’s movement 55 years ago and the foundations were White man institutions.

    White men did it to the White race.

    , @Polistra
    @SunBakedSuburb


    "White Men White Men White Men"
     
    Sorry, but we already have the MSM for that sort of whining.

    We don't need you & you're adding nothing to the discussion.
  174. @Wilkey
    @Jack D

    This sounds like just standard Amazon PR douchebaggery. I don't think that UPS & Fedex are the chokepoint. We have doctors' offices in my office building - not a particularly large one - and UPS and Fedex trucks are here literally every day. Most hospitals, clinics, and even doctors' offices probably see them every day, as well. For Fedex and UPS a vaccine shipment is just an extra box for a place they're probably already going to.

    From what I understand Amazon doesn't deliver its own stuff in rural areas, anyway. It delivers in cities where it has warehouses, but in small towns it hands off to the major package carriers.

    The chokepoints are in the manufacturing of the drug, on the front end, and at the hospitals, clinics, and pharmacies which are supposed to be giving the vaccines to people. And the latter is probably only due to the states not giving them adequate instructions. Probably it's all just about them getting the word out to people who are eligible to come in and get their damn vaccine.

    Shipping to homes doesn't make much sense. The number of shipments going out from the manufacturer would increase exponentially, as would the amount of packaging materials, dry ice, etc., that were needed. Their model didn't plan for that. And once the vaccines were delivered most people wouldn't feel comfortable giving it to themselves.

    Replies: @Jack D

    “Most people” wouldn’t get the vaccine this way but it would be one more channel. Right now, if you try to getting the vaccine thru the channels that have been set up, you can’t get an appointment in most places even if you are in a high risk group. You go on the portals that have been set up (if any) and there are no appointments available. People are looking at months and months before they can get the vaccine. I know a couple in NY in their early 70s (one just recovered from leukemia) who were supposed to get the vaccine this week but instead they got Covid first. I think there are plenty of households (not all) that would be delighted to receive a box of 4 or 5 EpiPen type devices loaded with the Covid vaccine in the mail tomorrow so they could take it and give it to grandma and their adult children instead of waiting several months more for a vaccine appointment. I know that I would jump at that chance. In the box would be instructions and a barcode link to an online video demonstration. Honest to goodness I’ve seen it done and it’s not rocket science. They teach 12 year olds of average intelligence how to self-administer an EpiPen.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @Jack D

    I am not pining for the CovVax but you are. Take some preventatives such as 5000 Units vitamin D (by Now Foods) daily and a Quercetin/Zinc combo >>>> https://www.amazon.com/Quercetin-Seasonal-Supplements-Cardiovascular-Capsules/dp/B087YLTR4G

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @JerseyJeffersonian
    @Jack D

    Well, Jack, what if you are one of those who suffers an anaphylactic reaction when you are injecting yourself with one of those vaccines, and you are all alone, and there is no help to be had within the short timeframe, and at the intensity level, such as epinephrin or intubation, required to keep you alive? I guess you would be just shit out of luck, eh?

    I suspect that your relative who now takes a self-administered dose of Humira safely didn't self-administer their first, or perhaps even their first few doses, away from the supervision of a doctor or nurse, who would be there to assure the correct administration, or more importantly, the safety of your relative taking that drug.

    I took a series of allergy shots some time ago, and even though I was issued an epipen for use away from the office at need, it was a hard and fast rule that I was not allowed to leave the doctor's office after a shot for 15 minutes, and this continued after every shot, a weekly or twice weekly event, with no exception.

    These vaccine shots are a sequence of no more than two shots. Why the mania that somebody has to administer shots to themselves away from quick medical intervention when needed? How about instead facilitating medically-supervised injections even for those who cannot themselves travel to an injection site, for whatever reason? I get that you are totally het up about everybody getting their injection(s), but given that there have been medical emergencies associated with them, how about the society prioritizing safety? There are such things as travelling nurses after all, and even paramedical personnel might be able to perform this task (they are trained to give injections and to react to emergencies), and who better for this?

  175. @Altai
    I would say it'll be interesting to see how far the impacts of this will go. Are there really enough guys who will do this to make a big impact? So far the numbers seem small enough that though it has ruined lots of individual female athletes dreams, it seems just that, not a systemic destruction of women's sports.

    Most MtF who are younger tend to be the effeminate type and are going on medical transition earlier and earlier so they're unlikely to be highly competitive even if they had an interest in sport.

    The marines in dresses brigade seem to mostly transition later, after the peak of athletic performance, even assuming they have an interest in competing in women's sports.

    Though there have been some egregious examples like the huge guy who switched to women's rugby in a move that seemed genuinely unsafe.

    Replies: @Jake, @peterike, @Thoughts

    If there’s one thing I’ve learned…the number of crazy/evil people is limitless

  176. @photondancer
    Of all the problems facing the USA right now, Biden has consistently prioritised the transgender agenda. I *really* want to know who is behind it. They are extraordinarily good at getting their way.

    Replies: @unit472, @Thoughts, @Mike Tre, @Dumbo, @Walsh2, @peterike, @Michelle, @Getaclue, @Thea, @BenKenobi, @Buffalo Joe, @Jeff, @Desiderius, @Desiderius, @Anon, @Cornbeef, @Dennis Dale, @CCZ

    photon, Pritzker money maybe?

  177. @Harry Baldwin
    @unit472

    no politician, until Joe Biden, saw any advantage to being their ‘champion’.

    No, if you watch the Democratic primary, every candidate was equally going ho about transgenderism. Perhaps Liz Warren and Cory Booker most of all.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Democrat politicians are always looking to virtue signal for their Leftist bleeding heart bases (white females – blacks are just there for the gibmedats and don’t really care about anything that doesn’t concern black people). For a long time, being pro-gay served that function but since every battle of World War Gay has been won and the enemy utterly defeated they needed to find something new to virtue signal with and transgender seemed like the natural next (il)logical step.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @Jack D


    Democrat politicians are always looking to virtue signal for their Leftist bleeding heart bases (white females – blacks are just there for the gibmedats and don’t really care about anything that doesn’t concern black people). For a long time, being pro-gay served that function but since every battle of World War Gay has been won and the enemy utterly defeated they needed to find something new to virtue signal with and transgender seemed like the natural next (il)logical step.
     
    Jack I think this paradigm is outdated and as of today pretty well backwards. Your model has the elected Democrats at the top of the pyramid, while in reality they're now simply the elected appendage of something much bigger and encompassing multinational capital, media, the academy and the administrative state. Elected Democrats are the tail, not the dog. People freely go between the heads of this hydra and into Democratic politics, and then back out into media, capital, the academy, etc. This is part of why elected Democrats will "walk the plank" for unpopular long-term leftist wish list items - they always have a cushy place to land to be paid handsomely on the back end.

    So I think it's incorrect to say that the media is "biased" in favor of Democrats. I think it's probably more accurate to say that the elected Democrats walk through the doors opened by both the news and entertainment media. Before his dementia became what we see now, Biden was the quintessential "quiet part out loud" guy in Washington. What do you think he meant when he said that "Will and Grace" and the like was responsible for the advent of Gay Marriage?

    Who has more real world, political power - Jeff Zucker or a back bench first term Democrat in Congress? AOC or Zucker? (another way to say it - who made AOC?) Who has more of a say in the direction of change in social mores? Who can determine what the political issues are in the public conversation (and, conversely, what they are not)? Who can make pampered suburban white women decide en masse on a dime that mutilating the genitals of children and pumping them full of hormones is a good thing to do (in exchange for thumbs up and likes on social media)?

    I don't think what we're up against here is merely the overeagerness of Democrats to serve their base.

    Replies: @Liza

    , @Alden
    @Jack D

    Exactly. Liberalism can’t stay still. They have to find new causes constantly. No matter how ridiculous, not just transgender bathrooms but re designing tampon packages with “ “ masculine” colors because pink flowers make men buying tampons for personal use uncomfortable.

    Which was weird if they identify as women. If they’re really women why don’t they like pretty feminine packages?

    Cleared my emails today. Endless crap from my Congress critter about ridding America of White supremacy.

    Replies: @Rosie

  178. I wonder whether America will push for these rules to be implemented in the Olympics?

  179. Anonymous[316] • Disclaimer says:
    @Guy De Champlagne
    @Rosie

    Title IX combined with the fact that men are better a sports means that a woman gets more sports program and scholarship funding than an equally skilled man. And, what disturbs even more people, is that Title IX combined with the fact that men are more interested in sports results in male teams getting cut entirely.

    And then there's a whole bunch of other reasons that men should hate feminism so that even if they don't care about sports or hate jocks they should still be opposed to Title IX.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Rosie, @Rosie, @Wilkey, @Anonymous, @Forbes, @Bragadocious

    And, what disturbs even more people, is that Title IX combined with the fact that men are more interested in sports results in male teams getting cut entirely.

    I’ve never seen women play sports together just for fun outside of some social, organized setting.

    Men who are complete strangers to each other will, for example, congregate at public basketball courts to play pickup basketball games with each other.

    • Replies: @Alice in Wonderland
    @Anonymous


    I’ve never seen women play sports together just for fun outside of some social, organized setting.

    Men who are complete strangers to each other will, for example, congregate at public basketball courts to play pickup basketball games with each other.
     
    Astute observation.

    I like to play sports, but mostly individual sports like running, skating and swimming. I run, go to the rink, and go swim laps by myself but that isn't really the same. I do confess that I would use my kids to play sports with when they young before they got good and joined teams. But I can't think of any other moms I know who did. Mostly there are no places for women to play pick up games. The very few women who would do it can't find the other very few women who want to. Maybe the tennis club? The closest thing would be maybe an exercise class or a bridge club. Women will workout next to strangers at the gym or exercise class or swim laps. I know bridge is not a regular physical sport, but the bridge club will give you a partner to play with, so a stranger for what amounts to like a pick up game.

    But, yeah, you are pretty much right.
  180. @Jack D
    @Wilkey

    "Most people" wouldn't get the vaccine this way but it would be one more channel. Right now, if you try to getting the vaccine thru the channels that have been set up, you can't get an appointment in most places even if you are in a high risk group. You go on the portals that have been set up (if any) and there are no appointments available. People are looking at months and months before they can get the vaccine. I know a couple in NY in their early 70s (one just recovered from leukemia) who were supposed to get the vaccine this week but instead they got Covid first. I think there are plenty of households (not all) that would be delighted to receive a box of 4 or 5 EpiPen type devices loaded with the Covid vaccine in the mail tomorrow so they could take it and give it to grandma and their adult children instead of waiting several months more for a vaccine appointment. I know that I would jump at that chance. In the box would be instructions and a barcode link to an online video demonstration. Honest to goodness I've seen it done and it's not rocket science. They teach 12 year olds of average intelligence how to self-administer an EpiPen.

    Replies: @Clyde, @JerseyJeffersonian

    I am not pining for the CovVax but you are. Take some preventatives such as 5000 Units vitamin D (by Now Foods) daily and a Quercetin/Zinc combo >>>> https://www.amazon.com/Quercetin-Seasonal-Supplements-Cardiovascular-Capsules/dp/B087YLTR4G

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Clyde

    Regardless of whether you want or don't want the vaccine, some people do and they should be able to get it. I do take Vit. D and zinc.

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Clyde

  181. @Clyde
    These girls and women don't want a guy in their locker room and showers.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Lot, @guest007, @Forbes, @Servant of Gla'aki, @Desiderius, @Bite Moi, @Bartleby the Scrivner, @Truth

    These girls and women don’t want a guy in their locker room and showers.

    You’ll do what you’re told, and you’ll like it. Thousands of years of human experience and human nature overturned in a signature.

    Welcome to the new normal.

  182. @Buffalo Joe
    I had a dream last night and in my dream it was 2024 and four full years into the biden-harris administration. A certain segment of the commubity had learned to send their kids to school, teach their children that it is not right to take things just because you want them, to throw litter in a garbage can, to talk through disagreements, to say "Excuse me Officer is there a problem?", to stop using M#%%#r F%&8#r in every sentence, to work at a job and save some money, to accept bad test results as a given when you are unprepared or unqualified, to learn the real meaning of the word "fiance", and to learn to swim, ice skate and play lacrosse. I knew it was a dream with the lacrosse thing. I am willing to bet real money that somethings, important things like familial responsibilty, financial responsibility and criminal behavior won't change at all, but the MSM will let that slide. Stay safe.

    Replies: @Clyde

    to learn the real meaning of the word “fiancé”, and to learn to swim, ice skate and play lacrosse. I knew it was a dream with the lacrosse thing.

    There is always hope. We all know Jim Brown played lacrosse at Syracuse and excelled. Now that I think about it, a black dude playing lacrosse back then blew whitey’s minds and got the white girls madly pursuing him.

    Jim Brown played lacrosse at Syracuse University. He started his lax career at a high school in New York called Manhasset High School. During his high school playing days, he earned 3 All-Star honors for midfield. At Syracuse, Jim Brown lettered in four sports including lacrosse and football.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Clyde

    Clyde, Brown was very good in his day, tuck the stick close to his chest and barrel through to the goal. Today there are many tight end sized lax player weilding six foot defense poles. I don't know how he would do today. love the game. Stay safe.

    Replies: @ben tillman

    , @Clyde
    @Clyde

    Your commentary is all good. I grew up in Queens county NYC where we kids built snow forts and threw snowballs. This must have been longer and more intense in far north Buffalo

  183. @Jonathan Mason
    @Rosie

    Maybe athletic scholarships should be abolished altogether, and all college sports should be self financing or paid for by the participants where there is no revenue source.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @stillCARealist, @Buffalo Joe, @MBlanc46

    jonathan, you may have the best idea possible on this subject. Few students, at any level, participate in sports, but sports require huge expenditures. My local HS in bond debt for new turf, all weather track, practice fields, lighting, equipment and new stands. And yet, maybe 20 guys or girls on the soccer or lacrosse teams, some of whom play both sports. Too much money and emphasis on sports and this from a father whose daughter had a full athletic scholarship offered to her. College club sports fill a need and often self fund.

    • Agree: S. Anonyia, Dissident
    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
    @Buffalo Joe

    We need to take it a step further than that, even. Abolish public funding for education altogether. If you want to go to school, or want your children to go to school, then pay for it yourself (and that includes primary school).

    The market will allocate all possibilities, and there will be plenty of opportunities for private tutors.

  184. anon[419] • Disclaimer says:

    Think of the rulemaking that’s going to accompany this. Will it be enough for some guy to self-ID as a girl, or will there be some blood test requirements about circulating T? Didn’t the East Germans manage to put “women” in the Olympics a time or two who were pretty iffy?

    Forget the Stanford crew team, now there’s a place for some lucky guy on the Stanford women’s track team, women’s basketball team, women’s softball team….oh, hey, wait one minute, softball! If the straight girls who don’t want to play with other girls have to wear hair ribbons, what about the new “women”? How will they set themselves apart?

    LOL!

    Some NCAA Div I uni is going to field a women’s basketball team that wins everything, featuring a power forward or maybe a center that’s a taller version of Serena. Then every women’s team will be searching for one. Think of all the young men who can’t quite make it onto a men’s team, but who easily can be a dominating player on a mostly girl’s team.

    And when they sorta graduate, they can demand a place in the WNBA!

    Woke supply and demand…and Benjamins…and HONK! HONK!

    Conservatives should look at the brighter side — for sure Biden’s Tweets won’t be as offensive as Trump’s were, and isn’t that what the election was all about, civility on Twitter?

  185. @Jack D
    @Rosie

    Maybe the solution is to get government out of the business of micro-regulating every single aspect of our lives and let individual colleges and sports groups, etc. make their own decisions as to who they want on their teams and by what rules their sport should be governed, because they know more about their sport than the government does?

    Central government control of sports and sports spending doesn't work any better than central government control of the economy and capital spending. You end up with wild misallocations and distortions because government feedback mechanisms are slow and crude compared to market mechanisms. Resources are allocated based on political considerations rather than demand and the results are far from optimal. Even when excesses are noted, it can take years or decades to correct them because the wheels of government grind slowly.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @MBlanc46

    Central government control of sports and sports spending doesn’t work any better than central government control of the economy and capital spending. You end up with wild misallocations and distortions because government feedback mechanisms are slow and crude compared to market mechanisms. Resources are allocated based on political considerations rather than demand and the results are far from optimal. Even when excesses are noted, it can take years or decades to correct them because the wheels of government grind slowly.

    Yes, as we all know the Russians and East Germans were abysmal failures at the Olympics.

    But more to the point, the government control has been there for quite some time. It’s just that the extant control has turned against and is being used to disfavor its historical beneficiaries now.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    I thought of the Russians and E. Germans. First of all, they allocated far too much money on sports, especially sports that no one really cares about (e.g. female shot put) because they thought that it would bring them international prestige. Yes, E. German could only make Trabants and not Mercedes but they could beat the West in track and field. The Communist economy was just riddle with these kind of misallocations so they could be #1 in steel production but meanwhile you couldn't get a roll of toilet paper.

    Second, some of their practices (hormones and drugs) were highly damaging to the health of their athletes.

    So yes if the government pours enough money into sports they can achieve "success" but at a high price that is not really worth the cost.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Dave from Oz
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)


    Yes, as we all know the Russians and East Germans were abysmal failures at the Olympics.
     
    Again and again we see that free market economics is merely a religion, and a dogmatic one blind to evidence.
  186. @Peter Johnson
    Wow.

    This is possibly a big deal.

    Society can pretend that African-Americans have the same average cognitive ability as white Americans. That delusion causes many problems but it is sustainable for many people, with lots of hard work. It is causing massive problems, but that delusion is sustained so far in the public sphere.

    The recent new delusion that males and females have the same average physical abilities at sports is entirely unsustainable. No matter how hard people try to believe it and how strong the pressure/censorship by the mainstream media and internet monopolies, they will not be able to sustain it generally in the public mind.

    This policy change will also piss off the moms and dads of athletically-talented girls, who will now be cut out of sports achievement (since they are not excellent compared to males, with their entirely different body shapes, muscle mass, etc.). Will these parents be allowed to express their displeasure publicly, or will they be harshly censored and vindictively targeted?

    Replies: @bomag, @International Jew, @Anon, @jb, @dearieme, @Getaclue, @TWS, @Forbes, @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle

    Will these parents be allowed to express their displeasure publicly…

    Only at the risk of….

    harshly censored and vindictively targeted?

    Yes.

  187. @Rosie
    @Guy De Champlagne


    Title IX combined with the fact that men are better a sports means that a woman gets more sports program and scholarship funding than an equally skilled man.
     
    If you have a problem with 50/50, what percentage of athletic budgets do you think should be allocated to women’s sports? 25%, 10%, or were you thinking more along the lines of a 100/0 split?

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @TelfoedJohn, @ben tillman, @GamecockJerry, @Mike Tre, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @TheMan, @Guy De Champlagne, @Paperback Writer, @JR Ewing

    If you have a problem with 50/50, what percentage of athletic budgets do you think should be allocated to women’s sports? 25%, 10%, or were you thinking more along the lines of a 100/0 split?

    I don’t know when or if you were a coed, but when I was in college I had a girl who had literally never rowed before any level but joined the team because practically anyone could get on the women’s rowing team – it was formed solely to achieve your 50/50 Title IX split so that the successful football team could remain. Rowing scholarships were available for women who had never picked up an oar before in their lives.

    Could it be that perhaps accepting the fact that as a general principle men have a more broad and more intense interest in competitive athletics is a place to start when determining where opportunities and funding should be directed? Is this such an outrageous idea to you?

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)


    I don’t know when or if you were a coed, but when I was in college I had a girl who had literally never rowed before any level but joined the team because practically anyone could get on the women’s rowing team
     
    There's always some bizarre anecdote or another here at Unz. Well, anecdotes are like a$$holes. Everyone has them. I have a cousin who got a full athletic scholarship, very well-earned, after ears of hard work. She is a very well-rounded athlete who could excel at pretty much anything, but ultimately chose a sport that was less competitive so she could get that scholarship.

    Could it be that perhaps accepting the fact that as a general principle men have a more broad and more intense interest in competitive athletics is a place to start when determining where opportunities and funding should be directed? Is this such an outrageous idea to you?
     
    I'm not entirely convinced that's true, though it may well be, but then even if it is true, I'm not sure that really helps your case. If it's true that half the student body isn't particularly interested, that just raises the question of whether disproportionate resources are devoted to ports that women don't care for, or even nonathletic extracurriculars like band, theater, or dance.

    Men's interests and preferences don't determine everything anymore. That you believe they should reflects your own unwarranted sense of entitlement that the world revolve around men. Apart from that, I'm not at all sure you'd like the results of a culture that sees vigorous athletic activities as a primarily masculine pursuit.

    http://www.videtteonline.com/sports/columns/youth-sports-can-help-prevent-child-obesity/article_c3bb73fd-e149-584d-9902-a4f56fe26af4.html

    https://s3.amazonaws.com/lowres.cartoonstock.com/animals-cat-feline-animal-map_of_universe-self_centered-bwhn2092_low.jpg

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

  188. @Guy De Champlagne
    @Rosie

    Title IX combined with the fact that men are better a sports means that a woman gets more sports program and scholarship funding than an equally skilled man. And, what disturbs even more people, is that Title IX combined with the fact that men are more interested in sports results in male teams getting cut entirely.

    And then there's a whole bunch of other reasons that men should hate feminism so that even if they don't care about sports or hate jocks they should still be opposed to Title IX.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Rosie, @Rosie, @Wilkey, @Anonymous, @Forbes, @Bragadocious

    It’s not about spending on or promoting women’s sports, it’s about defunding and canceling men’s sports.

    In the feminism rule book, any advantage men have, relative to women, is unfair, per se discrimination, and must be eliminated. Any advantage women have, relative to men, is due to the natural superiority of women–and should be encouraged.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Forbes


    In the feminism rule book, any advantage men have, relative to women, is unfair, per se discrimination, and must be eliminated. Any advantage women have, relative to men, is due to the natural superiority of women–and should be encouraged.
     
    Hear, hear!
  189. Serves them right,
    Women have again shot themselves in the foot. They overwhelmingly support feminism and Democrats. And feminism instead of actually doing something for women, forces them to pretend they are men with boobs.

  190. I think now is the time to lean back and prepare the popcorn: There is a subculture in feminism – TERFs (TransExclusionaryRadicalFeminism) who hates – really HATES – transpeople with an intensity only women can hate: Will be interesting what they have to say…
    Another culture whose reaction will be interesting are Muslim, who want their women to wear a hijab: I cannot imagine that their ideas of propriety allow a self-identified transgender (with male parts still attached) to enter a bathroom or locker reserved for women…

    • Replies: @houston 1992
    @watzi2w

    So, you 're saying that Islam is right about transgenderism?

  191. @Jack D
    @Harry Baldwin

    Democrat politicians are always looking to virtue signal for their Leftist bleeding heart bases (white females - blacks are just there for the gibmedats and don't really care about anything that doesn't concern black people). For a long time, being pro-gay served that function but since every battle of World War Gay has been won and the enemy utterly defeated they needed to find something new to virtue signal with and transgender seemed like the natural next (il)logical step.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Alden

    Democrat politicians are always looking to virtue signal for their Leftist bleeding heart bases (white females – blacks are just there for the gibmedats and don’t really care about anything that doesn’t concern black people). For a long time, being pro-gay served that function but since every battle of World War Gay has been won and the enemy utterly defeated they needed to find something new to virtue signal with and transgender seemed like the natural next (il)logical step.

    Jack I think this paradigm is outdated and as of today pretty well backwards. Your model has the elected Democrats at the top of the pyramid, while in reality they’re now simply the elected appendage of something much bigger and encompassing multinational capital, media, the academy and the administrative state. Elected Democrats are the tail, not the dog. People freely go between the heads of this hydra and into Democratic politics, and then back out into media, capital, the academy, etc. This is part of why elected Democrats will “walk the plank” for unpopular long-term leftist wish list items – they always have a cushy place to land to be paid handsomely on the back end.

    So I think it’s incorrect to say that the media is “biased” in favor of Democrats. I think it’s probably more accurate to say that the elected Democrats walk through the doors opened by both the news and entertainment media. Before his dementia became what we see now, Biden was the quintessential “quiet part out loud” guy in Washington. What do you think he meant when he said that “Will and Grace” and the like was responsible for the advent of Gay Marriage?

    Who has more real world, political power – Jeff Zucker or a back bench first term Democrat in Congress? AOC or Zucker? (another way to say it – who made AOC?) Who has more of a say in the direction of change in social mores? Who can determine what the political issues are in the public conversation (and, conversely, what they are not)? Who can make pampered suburban white women decide en masse on a dime that mutilating the genitals of children and pumping them full of hormones is a good thing to do (in exchange for thumbs up and likes on social media)?

    I don’t think what we’re up against here is merely the overeagerness of Democrats to serve their base.

    • Replies: @Liza
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)


    Who can make pampered suburban white women decide en masse on a dime that mutilating the genitals of children and pumping them full of hormones is a good thing to do (in exchange for thumbs up and likes on social media)?
     
    Just by way of commenting. Beginning maybe in the 1920s and picking up speed thereafter, it was hip for parents to sign on to the mutilating trend with infant circumcision of their baby boys. But you can't lay the blame on women alone. Even back then, intact (uncut) fathers were only too anxious to have their sons "done" because, you know, it was the latest thing, a healthy thing for the kid. Cleaner, they believed. Would prevent masturbation, hip joint disease and 100 other potential conditions.

    Urban parents couldn't sign up for this fast enough. It was part of middle and upper class upwardly-mobile outlook. So, I'd say that's the beginning of the knife-in-the-genitals-as-cure-for-everything mentality. Only a matter of time before marginally confused little kids needed an even more drastic "cure".

    This circumcision schit all started in the western world with the English/British while the rest of Europe never bought into it, not at all. And Amerika being a colony of Britain, well, there ya go!

    https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/transgender-population-by-state

    What Percentage of the Population is Transgender 2020

    Top of the list: Delaware, with 10,213 trannies per 100,000 population. SMH.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Dissident, @anon, @Matra

  192. • Replies: @Jim Christian
    @Buzz Mohawk


    OT: There was a walkout today at The New Yorker, but nobody got it.
     
    The union is probably nuts. Could New Yorker be making the kind of dough to pay all that out? Atlantic has been borderline busted/rescued repeatedly, I don't see much difference in them. The rest of it is boilerplate women-whine.
    , @Moral Stone
    @Buzz Mohawk

    That’s an amazing article and worth the read. In particular, the proposed *new* base salary from the company is $45,000 a year with annual 3k increase, this in NYC.

    I assume these people love being “influential” more than they love a decent standard of living, which explains a lot of their vindictive witch hunts - it’s all they have.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Buzz Mohawk

    What's with the tunics and pantaloons? Can't keep up with fashion these days!



    http://www.veritablehokum.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Landsknechts2.jpg

  193. @anon
    Poetic justice. Title IX turned around to chew on itself.

    Perfect!

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @Jake, @Alden, @Reg Cæsar, @The Alarmist

    Poetic justice. Title IX turned around to chew on itself.

    It’s not a glass ceiling, it’s a glans cap.

  194. The irony is that the very girls who are harmed by this nonsense probably supported Joe by a ratio of ten-to-one.

  195. @Bill Jones
    @anon

    So Wimmin setting themselves up as parasites upon normal men, turned out to be setting themselves up as Hosts for abnormal men.

    It's hard not to laugh. So I did.

    btw.Did anybody else catching a little of the Coronation of The Pretender yesterday think how much Washington now had its own Green Zone; where the occupiers could go about the business of looting without catching sight of the rebellious natives?

    Replies: @EdwardM, @Intelligent Dasein

    I nominate henceforth referring to the White House as the Green Zone.

    Good one. I think it has legs.

  196. @Jack D
    @Kyle


    and they’re flying around the country to play what’s essentially a children’s game.
     
    Field hockey is no more and no less a "children's game" than any other sport. In many parts of the world it is played by men. I suppose in the US the men's version is mostly crowded out by ice hockey and by lacrosse.

    You can object to almost ALL sports on the grounds that they are mere children's games. The thing is that there is vastly more demand among spectators and the players to watch and participate in certain children's games vs others, but Title IX substitutes government micromanagement for the judgment of the marketplace.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Dissident, @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Field hockey is no more and no less a “children’s game” than any other sport. In many parts of the world it is played by men. I suppose in the US the men’s version is mostly crowded out by ice hockey and by lacrosse.

    Nah. It became associated with girls at Northeastern boarding schools and women’s colleges. Thus, men lost interest. As with one-time boys’ names such as Beverly and Ashley.

    Isn’t lacrosse seen as solely a girls’ sport in Britain?

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Reg Cæsar

    Reg, when my youngest daughter was in HS we hosted a girls lacrosse team from England. The team was from a private school and considered an elite team. They were terribly outmatched against our girls Most of the Brits had wooden sticks, only see those on the res in box lacrosse. They were fun to host and their favorite food, corn on the cob. Girls lacrosse is not at all like the men's game and Native American girls don't play lacrosse on the reservations. Honestly, I have never seen an international lax game unless we consider a team from Canada to be international. Stay safe buddy.

  197. @Clyde
    These girls and women don't want a guy in their locker room and showers.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Lot, @guest007, @Forbes, @Servant of Gla'aki, @Desiderius, @Bite Moi, @Bartleby the Scrivner, @Truth

    These girls and women don’t want a guy in their locker room and showers.

    Yes.

    They’re nazis, in other words.

    That’s how it works now. Should be a fun four years!

  198. @Rosie
    It's no surprise that the very first comment here is a Nanna Nanna boo boo from some juvenile little manosphere jackass.

    But on a more substantive note, what exactly is the objection to Title IX?

    EDIT, not just the first one, but the second one, too.

    How many comments before a normal guy chimes in? Or is it just male chauvinist piglets all the way down?

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Buzz Mohawk, @Intelligent Dasein, @Guy De Champlagne, @Kyle, @Kyle, @Mike Tre, @Neoconned, @Anonymous, @Ben tillman, @Not Only Wrathful, @S. Anonyia, @Old and Grumpy, @Mr. Anon, @TWS, @Bel Riose, @SunBakedSuburb, @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle, @Reg Cæsar, @Rob, @jon, @TruthHammer, @donut, @Unladen Swallow, @Chrisnonymous, @Paperback Writer

    ok Karen!

    Hopefully Good Ole Joe Xi Jinping turns all public bathrooms into unisex bathrooms so I can sit down in a stall next to you and ask for a square of TP in a deep baritone voice.

    • LOL: Jim Don Bob
  199. @Buffalo Joe
    @Jonathan Mason

    jonathan, you may have the best idea possible on this subject. Few students, at any level, participate in sports, but sports require huge expenditures. My local HS in bond debt for new turf, all weather track, practice fields, lighting, equipment and new stands. And yet, maybe 20 guys or girls on the soccer or lacrosse teams, some of whom play both sports. Too much money and emphasis on sports and this from a father whose daughter had a full athletic scholarship offered to her. College club sports fill a need and often self fund.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    We need to take it a step further than that, even. Abolish public funding for education altogether. If you want to go to school, or want your children to go to school, then pay for it yourself (and that includes primary school).

    The market will allocate all possibilities, and there will be plenty of opportunities for private tutors.

  200. @Rosie
    @Guy De Champlagne


    Title IX combined with the fact that men are better a sports means that a woman gets more sports program and scholarship funding than an equally skilled man.
     
    If you have a problem with 50/50, what percentage of athletic budgets do you think should be allocated to women’s sports? 25%, 10%, or were you thinking more along the lines of a 100/0 split?

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @TelfoedJohn, @ben tillman, @GamecockJerry, @Mike Tre, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @TheMan, @Guy De Champlagne, @Paperback Writer, @JR Ewing

    Well, I have an issue with a 50/50 split that is the same problem I have with a 30/70 or a 100/0 mandated split. The best way to decide where the budget gets allocated is based on need alone. I went to a school that had boys baseball, boys basketball and nothing else. If you were a girl, you needed to go to home economics cause they didn’t play sports. Girls of my time were actually above sports. They dressed nice, went to church, and most abhorred the idea of getting all sweaty playing basketball. Tiltle 9 re-aligned school sports with the changing female paradigm of acceptable vs not for a lady. We dont talk much any more about being lady like, certainly don’t teach that very much anymore either. Not to be negative against a particular party line, but how many lady like women role models do we actually have any more. We all watched 4 years of trollops parading around being any thing but lady like. In this area, our former 1st LADY, was among a very few select female role models that if nothing else, showed a level of class and pride while being beseached on all sides. History will probably show her as a very CLASSY lady. This is all directly a result of title 9 and other mis guided policies, while good by way of intent, failing by way of unintended consequences.

  201. @Henry's Cat
    Since nobody really cares about female sports, which mainly subsist on the coattails of the men, it's easy to dismiss this issue as insignificant or irrelevant. If, however, a geezer won the women's tennis Grand Slam that would certainly put the cat amongst the pigeons. But would any man have the chutzpah, not to say the balls, to carry it off? No Serena jokes, please.

    Replies: @ben tillman, @YetAnotherAnon, @Servant of Gla'aki, @Dave from Oz

    If, however, a geezer won the women’s tennis Grand Slam that would certainly put the cat amongst the pigeons. But would any man have the chutzpah, not to say the balls, to carry it off?

    Am I correct that a person can win millions of dollars, in women’s tennis matches?

    If so, then yes, we’ll be seeing someone attempt this soon enough. Kinda surprising it hasn’t happened already, but I feel confident it will occur soon enough to give Biden’s administration some well-deserved headaches.

  202. @Buzz Mohawk
    OT: There was a walkout today at The New Yorker, but nobody got it.

    Roughly 100 staffers of The New Yorker magazine walked off their jobs on Thursday in protest of pay disparities.

    https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/continuous-line-drawing-people-walking-street-work-time-conteptual-hand-drawn-minimalism-lineart-design-isolated-157630544.jpg

    Replies: @Jim Christian, @Moral Stone, @Reg Cæsar

    OT: There was a walkout today at The New Yorker, but nobody got it.

    The union is probably nuts. Could New Yorker be making the kind of dough to pay all that out? Atlantic has been borderline busted/rescued repeatedly, I don’t see much difference in them. The rest of it is boilerplate women-whine.

  203. @Anonymous
    https://twitter.com/loganclarkhall/status/1352032340625776646

    Replies: @Jack D, @Intelligent Dasein

    This seems like a bridge way too far for Amazon, if anyone really wants to press the matter. This is tantamount to Amazon admitting that it was willing to delay and let people die for political reasons.

    Beat this drum. This should not go unnoticed.

  204. @Rosie
    It's no surprise that the very first comment here is a Nanna Nanna boo boo from some juvenile little manosphere jackass.

    But on a more substantive note, what exactly is the objection to Title IX?

    EDIT, not just the first one, but the second one, too.

    How many comments before a normal guy chimes in? Or is it just male chauvinist piglets all the way down?

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Buzz Mohawk, @Intelligent Dasein, @Guy De Champlagne, @Kyle, @Kyle, @Mike Tre, @Neoconned, @Anonymous, @Ben tillman, @Not Only Wrathful, @S. Anonyia, @Old and Grumpy, @Mr. Anon, @TWS, @Bel Riose, @SunBakedSuburb, @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle, @Reg Cæsar, @Rob, @jon, @TruthHammer, @donut, @Unladen Swallow, @Chrisnonymous, @Paperback Writer

    But on a more substantive note, what exactly is the objection to Title IX?

    Two:

    Men were more interested in sports than women, so if funds were distributed fairly according to interest, naturally more would go to men’s activities. The opposite would’ve been true of music and theater. This had real-world effects, as minor men’s sports were cut to fund activities few women had interest in anyway.

    Which suggest it was never about “fairness”, but social engineering, pushing women into sports. Funny, the pre-coed women’s colleges were doing a bang-up job of that already. But at coed schools, ladies would rather watch gentlemen compete.

    Ironically, this cause would have a better rationale today. Our young were far less obese in 1970.

  205. @Rosie
    It's no surprise that the very first comment here is a Nanna Nanna boo boo from some juvenile little manosphere jackass.

    But on a more substantive note, what exactly is the objection to Title IX?

    EDIT, not just the first one, but the second one, too.

    How many comments before a normal guy chimes in? Or is it just male chauvinist piglets all the way down?

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Buzz Mohawk, @Intelligent Dasein, @Guy De Champlagne, @Kyle, @Kyle, @Mike Tre, @Neoconned, @Anonymous, @Ben tillman, @Not Only Wrathful, @S. Anonyia, @Old and Grumpy, @Mr. Anon, @TWS, @Bel Riose, @SunBakedSuburb, @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle, @Reg Cæsar, @Rob, @jon, @TruthHammer, @donut, @Unladen Swallow, @Chrisnonymous, @Paperback Writer

    I am not a manospherian nor at all interested in sports. But most men are. Title IX applied to sports pitted women’s sports directly against men’s in a culture where a couple of men’s sports got most of the funding from colleges, and men are much more interested in playing sports.

    Title IX’s forces equal funding for women’s sports. Schools were not going to lessen their support of football and basketball, so that killed a lot of men’s sports at the university level.

    Education was already tilted heavily in girls’ favor. When boys do better on the SAT, they add another verbal section to help girls. Boys do better in on math tests? They teach math very badly and slowly. Absolutely no one thinks schools need to be overhauled from top to bottom to ensure that boys’ GPA equals gurls’. While it is may be a symptom of toxic masculinity, it might only be a result of natural competitiveness, being more athletic is the only thing that boys have that makes them feel not-so-inferior to girls. They have a lot of their self-esteem tied up in sports.

    With pretty much every factor in college admissions favoring girls, Title IX gave women equal sports scholarship funding with men. That’s the same athletic scholarship funding spread over far fewer athletes. Given the racial difference x sex difference in sports, most of those football and basketball scholarships are not open to white boys. Black girls don’t play sports much, maybe because of obesity, maybe their hair, I dunno. Regardless of the causes, not only are teachers biased in girls’ favor, but now sports scholarships are, too. Testing, the only remotely fair measure of ability, has been declining in popularity, and will soon be nonexistent. That is largely not the fault of either women or title IX. It can squarely be blamed on Asians testing too well, and blacks testing too poorly. It also has disproportionately hurt boys, who depend on testing to show that they are not dumb, just immature.

    It’s been a long time since I was in high school, but at least back then, the girl-jock culture was not nearly as toxic as the guys’ was, so there is that in favor of pushing women’s athletics. Maybe sporty girls will have a positive influence on the jock subculture, but I think it is just as likely that the boys will turn the girls into binge-drinking, anti-intellectual bullies.

    Don’t get me wrong, our obsession with sports does not speak well of men.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Rob


    Title IX’s forces equal funding for women’s sports. Schools were not going to lessen their support of football and basketball, so that killed a lot of men’s sports at the university level.
     
    That disproportionately harms White men, and disproportionately benefits black males, as you go on to suggest later.

    Coincidence?
  206. @Reg Cæsar
    @Jack D


    Field hockey is no more and no less a “children’s game” than any other sport. In many parts of the world it is played by men. I suppose in the US the men’s version is mostly crowded out by ice hockey and by lacrosse.
     
    Nah. It became associated with girls at Northeastern boarding schools and women's colleges. Thus, men lost interest. As with one-time boys' names such as Beverly and Ashley.

    Isn't lacrosse seen as solely a girls' sport in Britain?

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Reg, when my youngest daughter was in HS we hosted a girls lacrosse team from England. The team was from a private school and considered an elite team. They were terribly outmatched against our girls Most of the Brits had wooden sticks, only see those on the res in box lacrosse. They were fun to host and their favorite food, corn on the cob. Girls lacrosse is not at all like the men’s game and Native American girls don’t play lacrosse on the reservations. Honestly, I have never seen an international lax game unless we consider a team from Canada to be international. Stay safe buddy.

  207. @Jack D
    @Kyle


    and they’re flying around the country to play what’s essentially a children’s game.
     
    Field hockey is no more and no less a "children's game" than any other sport. In many parts of the world it is played by men. I suppose in the US the men's version is mostly crowded out by ice hockey and by lacrosse.

    You can object to almost ALL sports on the grounds that they are mere children's games. The thing is that there is vastly more demand among spectators and the players to watch and participate in certain children's games vs others, but Title IX substitutes government micromanagement for the judgment of the marketplace.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Dissident, @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    You can object to almost ALL sports on the grounds that they are mere children’s games.

    Alternatively, rather than paying and traveling to watch men who are likely to be obnoxious, spoiled, violent, and seething with hostility toward whites and the US play children’s games, one can head over to one’s local park and watch boys them. Or even play a sport oneself. Or enjoy the great outdoors in any number of other ways that don’t require supporting or being party to odiously Woke professional sports.
    http://www.archives.nysed.gov/common/archives/files/69040_ca_object_representations_media_2916_page_3.jpg

  208. “Isn’t lacrosse seen as solely a girls’ sport in Britain?”

    It is, as is hockey. But a lot of men play hockey in the UK, we actually won gold in the Seoul Olympics.

  209. @photondancer
    Of all the problems facing the USA right now, Biden has consistently prioritised the transgender agenda. I *really* want to know who is behind it. They are extraordinarily good at getting their way.

    Replies: @unit472, @Thoughts, @Mike Tre, @Dumbo, @Walsh2, @peterike, @Michelle, @Getaclue, @Thea, @BenKenobi, @Buffalo Joe, @Jeff, @Desiderius, @Desiderius, @Anon, @Cornbeef, @Dennis Dale, @CCZ

    Well, I can confidently say that they’re a religious sect from the desert. Apparently about 2% of the US population. I’ve seen them wearing funny little hats that offer no sun protection…

  210. @Buzz Mohawk
    OT: There was a walkout today at The New Yorker, but nobody got it.

    Roughly 100 staffers of The New Yorker magazine walked off their jobs on Thursday in protest of pay disparities.

    https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/continuous-line-drawing-people-walking-street-work-time-conteptual-hand-drawn-minimalism-lineart-design-isolated-157630544.jpg

    Replies: @Jim Christian, @Moral Stone, @Reg Cæsar

    That’s an amazing article and worth the read. In particular, the proposed *new* base salary from the company is $45,000 a year with annual 3k increase, this in NYC.

    I assume these people love being “influential” more than they love a decent standard of living, which explains a lot of their vindictive witch hunts – it’s all they have.

  211. @Jonathan Mason
    If Cristiano Ronaldo decides to cut off his dick so that he can prolong his career for a few more years, Portugal will have a serious chance of winning the women's soccer World Cup.

    Christine Ronaldo could break all kinds of records in the women's game, like scoring a dozen goals in a single game with his left foot.

    Replies: @Travis, @Jeff, @Brutusale, @Anon7, @HA, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Well, that might make it worth watching a women’s soccer game. Because as it is now, it’s a total snoozefest.

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @Jeff


    Well, that might make it worth watching a women’s soccer game. Because as it is now, it’s a total snoozefest.
     
    I was generally neutral, or disinterested with a beneficent attitude towards women's soccer until the recent girl power turbo-dyke iteration of the sport/the U.S. Women's Team. At least the girls 15 years ago were somewhat pretty, wholesome, and sporty but feminine.

    Since the most recent nonsense, I've become an active detractor of the sport and the U.S. Women's Team. Tasked with representing the United States in international competition, the most outspoken members made it clear that they were playing for the glory of only one half of the nation.

    Only then did I find it worth mentioning the ridiculous fact that players on the team were dating/engaged to be wed to other players on the team (and players on other nations' teams). Imagine if LeBron and KD were embroiled in a public off-again, on-again romance. What would that say about the seriousness with which NBA players treated their game?

    Then, of course, it was the caterwauling about getting paid less than the U.S. Men's team (for whom I similarly held detached disinterest) in years other than World Cup years. They were interviewed on 60 minutes or somesuch, choking out canned platitudes without much thought, and running down the men's team to make their point.

    So I got into an argument with a feminist type about it. After expressing my general disinterest, I countered to the disparate pay argument by asking what their claim was - were the U.S. Women's team members claiming that they were better at soccer than the men? Or were they claiming that they were better at women's soccer than the men are at men's soccer? The actual claim is clearly the former, but stated as the latter. My solution - which I think brought the controversy to a head - was to take all of the money allocable to both national teams and pay it to the team who wins a best of three matches series. I could not find any agreement on this score.
  212. @Rosie
    @Guy De Champlagne


    Title IX combined with the fact that men are better a sports means that a woman gets more sports program and scholarship funding than an equally skilled man.
     
    If you have a problem with 50/50, what percentage of athletic budgets do you think should be allocated to women’s sports? 25%, 10%, or were you thinking more along the lines of a 100/0 split?

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @TelfoedJohn, @ben tillman, @GamecockJerry, @Mike Tre, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @TheMan, @Guy De Champlagne, @Paperback Writer, @JR Ewing

    The simplest way to get equal treatment would be to just abolish womens sports entirely and have every sport be coed. But even then you’d still have funding and admissions bonus disparities between sports and different teams (varsity, junior varsity, etc) within the same sport that people could claim amount to disparate impact discrimination against women (and different classes/races/geographic areas etc).

  213. @Guy De Champlagne
    @Rosie

    Title IX combined with the fact that men are better a sports means that a woman gets more sports program and scholarship funding than an equally skilled man. And, what disturbs even more people, is that Title IX combined with the fact that men are more interested in sports results in male teams getting cut entirely.

    And then there's a whole bunch of other reasons that men should hate feminism so that even if they don't care about sports or hate jocks they should still be opposed to Title IX.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Rosie, @Rosie, @Wilkey, @Anonymous, @Forbes, @Bragadocious

    True.

    All you have to do is look at golf. College golf scholarships are given out to women who pretty much can’t break 80. Men who don’t average 74 or 75 have no chance for a free ride and may end up as servers at Olive Garden. This is discrimination. And since golf isn’t solely about power, and women get to play from forward tees, you can’t blame this on biology or the male strength advantage.

  214. @Jack D
    @Kyle


    and they’re flying around the country to play what’s essentially a children’s game.
     
    Field hockey is no more and no less a "children's game" than any other sport. In many parts of the world it is played by men. I suppose in the US the men's version is mostly crowded out by ice hockey and by lacrosse.

    You can object to almost ALL sports on the grounds that they are mere children's games. The thing is that there is vastly more demand among spectators and the players to watch and participate in certain children's games vs others, but Title IX substitutes government micromanagement for the judgment of the marketplace.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Dissident, @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Field hockey is no more and no less a “children’s game” than any other sport. In many parts of the world it is played by men. I suppose in the US the men’s version is mostly crowded out by ice hockey and by lacrosse.

    You can object to almost ALL sports on the grounds that they are mere children’s games. The thing is that there is vastly more demand among spectators and the players to watch and participate in certain children’s games vs others, but Title IX substitutes government micromanagement for the judgment of the marketplace.

    I see Kyle’s point though – he’s writing that the Iowa Women’s Field Hockey team didn’t seem upon first blush to be a serious or high-level athletic enterprise but rather a social club arranged around travel and hitting a ball about. In such a case, is the travel part even necessary or something worth the expense if teams of a similar level of competition could probably be found within 30 miles of campus?

    At least in the case of BIG10 Football, it’s a serious athletic enterprise justifying the necessity to fly the team across the Midwest to find competitive peers. You may object that BIG10 Football is too serious of an athletic enterprise (and the correlated academic exercise not serious enough), but it’s a thing that’s wholly different than what Kyle was describing. Indeed, the football programs generate excess revenue to fund other athletic programs which cannot self-fund. (Perhaps a better compromise would be directing the football revenue into academic programs).

    • Replies: @Moral Stone
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    I’m not sure having one team each year (out of a conference of also-rans) barely good enough to get heemed in the playoffs by an SEC or ACC school qualifies Big 10 football as “serious.” I’ll grant you it is probably a revenue generating enterprise as midwestern football might be marginally more entertaining to the folks out there than their other option - literally watching corn grow.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)


    Perhaps a better compromise would be directing the football revenue into academic programs.
     
    Supposedly Notre Dame did just that. Look what it got us:



    https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2021/01/21/gettyimages-1230159406_wide-77c7d1e2f3c6cf86d5f5da57a5328947daaa8d2e-s1500-c85.jpg
    , @Alden
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    I object to football and basketball because they are blackety blackety black. How can White men spend so much time watching black sports.

    If all the women ice skaters and ballet dancers were black, I’d just stop watching.

  215. @Rosie
    It's no surprise that the very first comment here is a Nanna Nanna boo boo from some juvenile little manosphere jackass.

    But on a more substantive note, what exactly is the objection to Title IX?

    EDIT, not just the first one, but the second one, too.

    How many comments before a normal guy chimes in? Or is it just male chauvinist piglets all the way down?

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Buzz Mohawk, @Intelligent Dasein, @Guy De Champlagne, @Kyle, @Kyle, @Mike Tre, @Neoconned, @Anonymous, @Ben tillman, @Not Only Wrathful, @S. Anonyia, @Old and Grumpy, @Mr. Anon, @TWS, @Bel Riose, @SunBakedSuburb, @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle, @Reg Cæsar, @Rob, @jon, @TruthHammer, @donut, @Unladen Swallow, @Chrisnonymous, @Paperback Writer

    1. Men like sports a LOT more than women. Men play more, men watch more, men spend more. Pushing for total equality in this area is just pushing some people into something they aren’t really that into, while preventing others from doing something they love.
    2. Budgets are limited. There are two ways to make things equal, add more opportunities for women, or take away opportunities for men. Title IX proponents always hype the former and pretend like the latter isn’t happening.
    3. Football is huge, in all aspects – popularity, number of players, and budget required – and there is no corresponding female version. This exacerbates the problem in #2 above. You have to cut a lot of men’s sports if you want to have a football team.

    But the mostly feminist, mostly lesbian women that play college sports are getting their f-ed up world view forced on them, good and hard, so I guess I’ve done a 180 on the topic and, like you, I have no objection to Title IX.

  216. @Peter Johnson
    Wow.

    This is possibly a big deal.

    Society can pretend that African-Americans have the same average cognitive ability as white Americans. That delusion causes many problems but it is sustainable for many people, with lots of hard work. It is causing massive problems, but that delusion is sustained so far in the public sphere.

    The recent new delusion that males and females have the same average physical abilities at sports is entirely unsustainable. No matter how hard people try to believe it and how strong the pressure/censorship by the mainstream media and internet monopolies, they will not be able to sustain it generally in the public mind.

    This policy change will also piss off the moms and dads of athletically-talented girls, who will now be cut out of sports achievement (since they are not excellent compared to males, with their entirely different body shapes, muscle mass, etc.). Will these parents be allowed to express their displeasure publicly, or will they be harshly censored and vindictively targeted?

    Replies: @bomag, @International Jew, @Anon, @jb, @dearieme, @Getaclue, @TWS, @Forbes, @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle

    The only real way to fight this is for real females to stop joining and playing College level sports.

    If they did that the whole house of cards would collapse since there aren’t enough of these transgendered males to support a viable female sports team and compete between schools.

    Of course giving up sports for young ladies would be rather difficult since a lot of them rely on sports scholarships to attend college.

    But, why they hand out scholarships for people to play sports seems to be non sequitur.

  217. @Jake
    @Altai

    According to Trannie faith today, you are what you assert sexually, even if you never get a shingle hormone shot, much less a surgery. If that is upheld, then a bunch of enterprising guys not good enough for tennis, golf, lacrosse, soccer etc scholarships should proclaim themselves women and sue if they do not get scholarships.

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @photondancer, @Guy Cabellero

    Hardcore trolling is the world we deserve.

  218. @Clyde
    @Jack D

    I am not pining for the CovVax but you are. Take some preventatives such as 5000 Units vitamin D (by Now Foods) daily and a Quercetin/Zinc combo >>>> https://www.amazon.com/Quercetin-Seasonal-Supplements-Cardiovascular-Capsules/dp/B087YLTR4G

    Replies: @Jack D

    Regardless of whether you want or don’t want the vaccine, some people do and they should be able to get it. I do take Vit. D and zinc.

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
    @Jack D

    I agree with your statement. As a "frontline worker" and a "hero" (I'm a performance artist acting as a HS teacher for 26 yrs) I want to do the heroic thing and offer you my vaccine.

    , @Clyde
    @Jack D

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B087YLTR4G/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
    Quercetin carries the Zinc into cells same as hydroxychloroquine. But maybe 30%-40% as effectively/ Better than nothing.

  219. @stillCARealist
    @El Dato

    For those who have worked in prisons, or have friends and family who do so, you know that those places have tons of sickos who call themselves women just to mess with everybody. They're perverts and predators, and the guards know it. Unfortunately the politicians have no clue what goes on in those places so they'll make decisions and expect prison workers to follow impossible guidelines regarding these psychos.

    what's really needed are more special institutions for such freaks who can't be trusted around women, men, guards, dogs, anything. If we're going to lock people up for criminal behavior, we need to be able to keep them safe from each other and actually give them the environment that's appropriate. I guess I'd say this goes for truly effeminate men in prison too. They must face constant threat.

    Replies: @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle

    In a large number of male prisons they already segregate the population by homosexuality or whether they’re convicted of sex crimes. Something about the main prison population not wanting to put up with those types of behavior.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle

    In the prison I worked in there was a "faith-based" wing where religious prisoners could go, and it seemed like a lot of the gender-challenged prisoners got religion once they were locked up, and opted to spend their recreational hours practicing in the choir where there was safety in numbers.

  220. @Curle
    @Dumbo

    Saw Hope Solo in person once. She was a total babe! Bad choice in men, but that’s another matter.

    Replies: @Morton's toes, @jon

    Saw Hope Solo in person once. She was a total babe!

    Hope’s pronouns may be she/her, but that jawline is all he/him.

    • Replies: @Truth
    @jon

    Yeah, I would guess his wang is not exactly they/them either.

    , @Curle
    @jon

    So you don’t like half-breeds? She’s got classic NA/White features. She’s pretty.














    https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2019511/rs_834x1024-190611093023-hope-solo.jpg?fit=inside%7C900:auto&output-quality=90

  221. @Jeff
    @Jonathan Mason

    Well, that might make it worth watching a women's soccer game. Because as it is now, it's a total snoozefest.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Well, that might make it worth watching a women’s soccer game. Because as it is now, it’s a total snoozefest.

    I was generally neutral, or disinterested with a beneficent attitude towards women’s soccer until the recent girl power turbo-dyke iteration of the sport/the U.S. Women’s Team. At least the girls 15 years ago were somewhat pretty, wholesome, and sporty but feminine.

    Since the most recent nonsense, I’ve become an active detractor of the sport and the U.S. Women’s Team. Tasked with representing the United States in international competition, the most outspoken members made it clear that they were playing for the glory of only one half of the nation.

    Only then did I find it worth mentioning the ridiculous fact that players on the team were dating/engaged to be wed to other players on the team (and players on other nations’ teams). Imagine if LeBron and KD were embroiled in a public off-again, on-again romance. What would that say about the seriousness with which NBA players treated their game?

    Then, of course, it was the caterwauling about getting paid less than the U.S. Men’s team (for whom I similarly held detached disinterest) in years other than World Cup years. They were interviewed on 60 minutes or somesuch, choking out canned platitudes without much thought, and running down the men’s team to make their point.

    So I got into an argument with a feminist type about it. After expressing my general disinterest, I countered to the disparate pay argument by asking what their claim was – were the U.S. Women’s team members claiming that they were better at soccer than the men? Or were they claiming that they were better at women’s soccer than the men are at men’s soccer? The actual claim is clearly the former, but stated as the latter. My solution – which I think brought the controversy to a head – was to take all of the money allocable to both national teams and pay it to the team who wins a best of three matches series. I could not find any agreement on this score.

  222. @Arclight
    On WWT, the BLM insanity and so on, I've basically concluded that the public needs to get these policies good and hard for an extended period of time before a critical mass of people are fed up enough for it to be worthwhile for politicians to make changes.

    We have much further to fall as a society before there is any hope for a rebound.

    Replies: @Frank McGar, @jon, @JosephB

    We have much further to fall as a society before there is any hope for a rebound.

    Just look at the Scandinavian countries if you want to see how much further we can fall before there is any rebound.

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
    @jon


    Just look at the Scandinavian countries if you want to see how much further we can fall before there is any rebound.
     
    Nordic crime rates are way lower. The murder rate per capita in Sweden, for instance, is 1.1 per 100,000, 1/5 of the US.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Sweden

    The US murder rate per capita peaked at 9.8 per 100,000 in 1991.

    http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm

    It was about 5.0 per 100,000 in 2019. 2020 will probably be in the 7.0 per 100,000 range, if big city increases in the ~40% (and up) range are anything to go by, presumably offset by relative stability in areas with negligible black populations. 2.8 per 100,000 to go before we can say what was old is new again.
  223. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @Jack D


    Central government control of sports and sports spending doesn’t work any better than central government control of the economy and capital spending. You end up with wild misallocations and distortions because government feedback mechanisms are slow and crude compared to market mechanisms. Resources are allocated based on political considerations rather than demand and the results are far from optimal. Even when excesses are noted, it can take years or decades to correct them because the wheels of government grind slowly.
     
    Yes, as we all know the Russians and East Germans were abysmal failures at the Olympics.

    But more to the point, the government control has been there for quite some time. It's just that the extant control has turned against and is being used to disfavor its historical beneficiaries now.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Dave from Oz

    I thought of the Russians and E. Germans. First of all, they allocated far too much money on sports, especially sports that no one really cares about (e.g. female shot put) because they thought that it would bring them international prestige. Yes, E. German could only make Trabants and not Mercedes but they could beat the West in track and field. The Communist economy was just riddle with these kind of misallocations so they could be #1 in steel production but meanwhile you couldn’t get a roll of toilet paper.

    Second, some of their practices (hormones and drugs) were highly damaging to the health of their athletes.

    So yes if the government pours enough money into sports they can achieve “success” but at a high price that is not really worth the cost.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Jack D

    East Germans took pride in being a spartan utilitarian society so they wouldn't have made luxury cars even if they could. That was for the decadent westerners.

    The reason there are always shortages of basic essentials in command economies is that politicians want to be popular, so set artificially low prices for these things, ensuring that they wind up on the black market instead of in the official stores.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Desiderius

  224. @danand
    @Jack D

    “Amazon and their shipping partners handle millions of boxes per day (and even more in the holiday season)...”

    This past holiday season it crossed my mind I might have to substitute a std gift of Jeni’s ice cream. It ships with dry ice, my thinking being that dry ice might be the new toilet tissue; as Pfizer had suggested it might be an issue. Turned out it was a not, their bewildered response to my inquiry left me feeling a bit queer for asking.

    On a couple of occasions I’ve left the pints sealed in their styrofoam insulated boxes for days, and when opened found they remained frozen solid.

    https://flic.kr/p/2kuitRu

    Wonder where J&J’s one dose vaccine is in its evaluation/release?

    Replies: @Dan Smith, @HammerJack

    Never heard of jeni’s before. Thanks.

    Looks like responsibly sourced dairy.

  225. @Abelard Lindsey
    If gender is a social construct, then why have separate sports leagues in the first place? Mix everyone together. No separate leagues for females.

    Replies: @HammerJack

    May indeed be where it’s headed, but people don’t want to admit the implications.

  226. @anon
    Poetic justice. Title IX turned around to chew on itself.

    Perfect!

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @Jake, @Alden, @Reg Cæsar, @The Alarmist

    Title IX turned around to chew on itself.

    Turned around or flipped on itself would make it Title XI, as in Joe Biden is a puppet of Xi in the destruction of the US, its culture, and its institutions.

  227. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @Jack D


    Democrat politicians are always looking to virtue signal for their Leftist bleeding heart bases (white females – blacks are just there for the gibmedats and don’t really care about anything that doesn’t concern black people). For a long time, being pro-gay served that function but since every battle of World War Gay has been won and the enemy utterly defeated they needed to find something new to virtue signal with and transgender seemed like the natural next (il)logical step.
     
    Jack I think this paradigm is outdated and as of today pretty well backwards. Your model has the elected Democrats at the top of the pyramid, while in reality they're now simply the elected appendage of something much bigger and encompassing multinational capital, media, the academy and the administrative state. Elected Democrats are the tail, not the dog. People freely go between the heads of this hydra and into Democratic politics, and then back out into media, capital, the academy, etc. This is part of why elected Democrats will "walk the plank" for unpopular long-term leftist wish list items - they always have a cushy place to land to be paid handsomely on the back end.

    So I think it's incorrect to say that the media is "biased" in favor of Democrats. I think it's probably more accurate to say that the elected Democrats walk through the doors opened by both the news and entertainment media. Before his dementia became what we see now, Biden was the quintessential "quiet part out loud" guy in Washington. What do you think he meant when he said that "Will and Grace" and the like was responsible for the advent of Gay Marriage?

    Who has more real world, political power - Jeff Zucker or a back bench first term Democrat in Congress? AOC or Zucker? (another way to say it - who made AOC?) Who has more of a say in the direction of change in social mores? Who can determine what the political issues are in the public conversation (and, conversely, what they are not)? Who can make pampered suburban white women decide en masse on a dime that mutilating the genitals of children and pumping them full of hormones is a good thing to do (in exchange for thumbs up and likes on social media)?

    I don't think what we're up against here is merely the overeagerness of Democrats to serve their base.

    Replies: @Liza

    Who can make pampered suburban white women decide en masse on a dime that mutilating the genitals of children and pumping them full of hormones is a good thing to do (in exchange for thumbs up and likes on social media)?

    Just by way of commenting. Beginning maybe in the 1920s and picking up speed thereafter, it was hip for parents to sign on to the mutilating trend with infant circumcision of their baby boys. But you can’t lay the blame on women alone. Even back then, intact (uncut) fathers were only too anxious to have their sons “done” because, you know, it was the latest thing, a healthy thing for the kid. Cleaner, they believed. Would prevent masturbation, hip joint disease and 100 other potential conditions.

    Urban parents couldn’t sign up for this fast enough. It was part of middle and upper class upwardly-mobile outlook. So, I’d say that’s the beginning of the knife-in-the-genitals-as-cure-for-everything mentality. Only a matter of time before marginally confused little kids needed an even more drastic “cure”.

    This circumcision schit all started in the western world with the English/British while the rest of Europe never bought into it, not at all. And Amerika being a colony of Britain, well, there ya go!

    https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/transgender-population-by-state

    What Percentage of the Population is Transgender 2020

    Top of the list: Delaware, with 10,213 trannies per 100,000 population. SMH.

    • Agree: utu
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Liza

    The Jews have been circumcising their male infants for at least 3,000 years and it never turned them trannie before.

    Replies: @Jack Armstrong, @Jiminy

    , @Dissident
    @Liza


    So, I’d say that’s the beginning of the knife-in-the-genitals-as-cure-for-everything mentality. Only a matter of time before marginally confused little kids needed an even more drastic “cure”.
     
    Is there any data correlating parents who circumcise their sons with parents that "transition" a child?

    If anything, in the United States, at least, the incidence of circumcision has decreased over the past three decades.

    SMH.
     
    Sydney Morning Herald?

    An article from last March (2020) in that newspaper reports,

    Young boys and men are increasingly being circumcised. The number of circumcisions with a local anaesthetic grew by nearly 60 per cent from 6518 in the year ending June 2017 to 10,352 in the year ending June 2019, Medicare item reports show.
     

    [continued from above break]

    The number of circumcisions with a regional nerve block more than doubled from 5425 in 2017 to 11,526 in 2019. These numbers do not include services provided by hospital doctors to public patients in public hospitals. Last financial year there were 4174 admissions to public hospitals for circumcision for medical reasons, the Australian Institute of Health and Welfare reported.
    [...]
    The rate of newborn circumcision, once routine for social reasons, has plummeted to between 10 and 20 per cent of babies, the Paediatrics & Child Health Division of the Royal Australasian College of Physicians said.
     
    , @anon
    @Liza

    Any discussion of circumcision in the US that does not include the name John Harvey Kellogg is grossly uninformed. He didn't just invent corn flakes, and he had an obsession about masturbation. Neither has anything to do with mentally disturbed men in dresses.

    You don't know much. Learn more then get back to us.

    Replies: @Liza

    , @Matra
    @Liza

    This circumcision schit all started in the western world with the English/British while the rest of Europe never bought into it, not at all. And Amerika being a colony of Britain, well, there ya go!

    Not quite. Virtually no boys in Britain get circumcised. It's an American thing that spread to Canada, and, I'm told, Australia.

    Replies: @Liza

  228. @Henry's Cat
    Talking of female champions, when are we going to find out who shot Ashli Babbitt?

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Anonymous, @Morton's toes, @Ron Mexico

    Sites that have since been labeled “misinformation” by corporations that deal in misinformation claimed it was David Bailey. To quote Tim Pool, “I dunno, man.”

  229. @Dan Smith
    The LPGA just ceased to exist.

    Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin

    “The LPGA just ceased to exist.”

    But on the other hand, this current action by “President” Biden will give men not good enough to play in men’s pro sports entry into the women’s leagues. For example, men who can’t make it in men’s pro football will now have bright futures in women’s football leagues.

    Who knows? Maybe they could even find a spot for Colin Kaepernick on one of the teams.

  230. @Anonymous
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Women’s volleyball 👊

    6-foot women with 24-inch leaps 👊



    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/01/68/a9/0168a9dcc18ece301344f89b73a9b19f--nice-photos.jpg

    http://bookmakergoal.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/volleyball-japan.jpg

     

    Replies: @Anonymous

    6’ tall… 2’ standing leap… and… 100% feminine and gorgeous

  231. @El Dato
    Females getting body-slammed by Males-identifying-as-Females during sportive encounters is something straight out of Wiley Coyotette. It's dangerous for the female and not appealing to look at.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxDaiyREBPw

    Also, the shower scenes just write themselves!

    Meanwhile in the UK:

    A rapist with dick who looks like Bob from Twin Peaks takes a stab at being moved to women's prison:

    A transwoman who raped a female in an horrific attack has been jailed for 15 years – but could still end up in a women’s prison


    The current 2019 policy states “A balanced approach must be adopted when making allocation, care and management decisions relating to transgender individuals, balancing the risks and well-being of the individual with the risks or impact on well-being that the person may present to others.” Should Winter apply for legal gender recognition, the default option would still be a women’s prison.

    The group who seem to be forgotten in all this are, of course, women in prison. Nowhere does the policy suggest asking female prisoners how they feel when biologically male people with penises are moved in with them, and there certainly is no mention of a veto. Women are expected to accept the decision and not complain.
     
    LOL

    Replies: @Calvin Hobbes, @stillCARealist, @Anonymous

    A rapist with dick who looks like Bob from Twin Peaks

    Haha! He really does!

  232. @Jack D
    @Clyde

    Regardless of whether you want or don't want the vaccine, some people do and they should be able to get it. I do take Vit. D and zinc.

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Clyde

    I agree with your statement. As a “frontline worker” and a “hero” (I’m a performance artist acting as a HS teacher for 26 yrs) I want to do the heroic thing and offer you my vaccine.

  233. @Clyde
    These girls and women don't want a guy in their locker room and showers.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Lot, @guest007, @Forbes, @Servant of Gla'aki, @Desiderius, @Bite Moi, @Bartleby the Scrivner, @Truth

    Citation needed

  234. Wokelism is about rolling back the Sexual Revolution without having to admit they were wrong. Terrifying women back into the home.

    • Agree: SimpleSong
  235. @ben tillman
    @Henry's Cat


    Since nobody really cares about female sports, which mainly subsist on the coattails of the men, it’s easy to dismiss this issue as insignificant or irrelevant. If, however, a geezer won the women’s tennis Grand Slam that would certainly put the cat amongst the pigeons. But would any man have the chutzpah, not to say the balls, to carry it off? No Serena jokes, please.
     
    Yes, it's already happened -- back in the '70's. Here's a white man's take on the spectacle of Dr, Richard Raskind taking on Chris Evert at the US Women's Clay Court Championships in Indianapolis many years ago:

    https://www.whitenationalism.com/cwar/orange.htm

    Here's a Jewish perspective:

    https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/.premium-1977-renee-richards-wins-for-transgender-rights-1.5425096

    A summary of his record playing as a "woman":

    https://db4tennis.com/players/female/renee-richards

    Richards played professionally from 1977 to 1981 when she retired at age 47. She was ranked as high as 20th overall (in February 1979), and her highest ranking at the end of a year was 22nd (in 1977). Her first professional event as a female was the 1977 U.S. Open. Her greatest successes on court were reaching the doubles final at her first U.S. Open in 1977, with Betty Ann Grubb Stuart – the pair lost a close match to Martina Navratilova and Betty Stöve – and winning the 35-and-over women's singles. Richards was twice a semifinalist in mixed doubles, with Ilie Năstase, at the U.S. Open. In 1979, she defeated Nancy Richey for the 35-and-over singles title at the Open. Richards posted wins over Hana Mandlíková, Sylvia Hanika, Virginia Ruzici, and Pam Shriver.
     

    Replies: @Liberty Mike, @Ron Mexico, @Charlesz Martel

    I remembered the name, but didn’t realize “he/she” partnered with Nasty Nastase. Must have been entertaining.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @Ron Mexico

    I was thinking the same thing.

  236. @peterike
    @photondancer


    I *really* want to know who is behind it. They are extraordinarily good at getting their way.
     
    Jews. It's simply the next step. Jews are insatiably drawn to decadence. They bring it with them everywhere they go.

    Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin

    No. It’s about peddling anything that will turn a profit, be it diamonds, junk bonds, gangsta rap, drugs, booze or pornography; and if you’ve been taught your entire life by your holy men and holy books that the goyim you’re peddling to are less than you, any harm the merchandise you’re peddling may cause them is a concern secondary to the ones you have about the profitability of your enterprise.

  237. @photondancer
    Of all the problems facing the USA right now, Biden has consistently prioritised the transgender agenda. I *really* want to know who is behind it. They are extraordinarily good at getting their way.

    Replies: @unit472, @Thoughts, @Mike Tre, @Dumbo, @Walsh2, @peterike, @Michelle, @Getaclue, @Thea, @BenKenobi, @Buffalo Joe, @Jeff, @Desiderius, @Desiderius, @Anon, @Cornbeef, @Dennis Dale, @CCZ

    Same as it ever was. If you want world peace gotta get the birth rates down to the death rates somehow.

    https://jaffememo.com/

  238. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @Rosie


    If you have a problem with 50/50, what percentage of athletic budgets do you think should be allocated to women’s sports? 25%, 10%, or were you thinking more along the lines of a 100/0 split?
     
    I don't know when or if you were a coed, but when I was in college I had a girl who had literally never rowed before any level but joined the team because practically anyone could get on the women's rowing team - it was formed solely to achieve your 50/50 Title IX split so that the successful football team could remain. Rowing scholarships were available for women who had never picked up an oar before in their lives.

    Could it be that perhaps accepting the fact that as a general principle men have a more broad and more intense interest in competitive athletics is a place to start when determining where opportunities and funding should be directed? Is this such an outrageous idea to you?

    Replies: @Rosie

    I don’t know when or if you were a coed, but when I was in college I had a girl who had literally never rowed before any level but joined the team because practically anyone could get on the women’s rowing team

    There’s always some bizarre anecdote or another here at Unz. Well, anecdotes are like a$$holes. Everyone has them. I have a cousin who got a full athletic scholarship, very well-earned, after ears of hard work. She is a very well-rounded athlete who could excel at pretty much anything, but ultimately chose a sport that was less competitive so she could get that scholarship.

    Could it be that perhaps accepting the fact that as a general principle men have a more broad and more intense interest in competitive athletics is a place to start when determining where opportunities and funding should be directed? Is this such an outrageous idea to you?

    I’m not entirely convinced that’s true, though it may well be, but then even if it is true, I’m not sure that really helps your case. If it’s true that half the student body isn’t particularly interested, that just raises the question of whether disproportionate resources are devoted to ports that women don’t care for, or even nonathletic extracurriculars like band, theater, or dance.

    Men’s interests and preferences don’t determine everything anymore. That you believe they should reflects your own unwarranted sense of entitlement that the world revolve around men. Apart from that, I’m not at all sure you’d like the results of a culture that sees vigorous athletic activities as a primarily masculine pursuit.

    http://www.videtteonline.com/sports/columns/youth-sports-can-help-prevent-child-obesity/article_c3bb73fd-e149-584d-9902-a4f56fe26af4.html

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Rosie

    Rosie, I admire your pluck. Stick with your point of view, too many afraid to express their real feelings. However, maybe dial back a bit, you've been compared to Tiny Duck.

  239. Anonymous[414] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    I thought of the Russians and E. Germans. First of all, they allocated far too much money on sports, especially sports that no one really cares about (e.g. female shot put) because they thought that it would bring them international prestige. Yes, E. German could only make Trabants and not Mercedes but they could beat the West in track and field. The Communist economy was just riddle with these kind of misallocations so they could be #1 in steel production but meanwhile you couldn't get a roll of toilet paper.

    Second, some of their practices (hormones and drugs) were highly damaging to the health of their athletes.

    So yes if the government pours enough money into sports they can achieve "success" but at a high price that is not really worth the cost.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    East Germans took pride in being a spartan utilitarian society so they wouldn’t have made luxury cars even if they could. That was for the decadent westerners.

    The reason there are always shortages of basic essentials in command economies is that politicians want to be popular, so set artificially low prices for these things, ensuring that they wind up on the black market instead of in the official stores.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Anonymous

    Luxury cars no but they surely would have made better cars than the Trabant if they had the resources - the Soviets who were just as doctrinaire made the Lada which was much closer to a "real" (if somewhat obsolete) car, having a steel body and a 4 cylinder water cooled automotive engine rather than a cardboard body and a 2 cyl. 2 stroke air cooled motorcycle motor.

    There were many reasons for the constant shortages in command economies but underpricing (thus causing demand to exceed supply) was certainly one of them and ONE (but not the only) cause of underpricing was fear of popular backlash if prices were raised. The Novocherkassk massacre of 1962 began when workers demonstrated against an increase in dairy and meat prices that had been recommended by economists because the Soviet meat prices were below the cost of production, thus giving collective farms no incentive to produce meat and ensuring constant shortages. But there was no trust or understanding on the part of the Soviet public that increases in meat prices would lead to more supply.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novocherkassk_massacre

    I recommend the book "Red Plenty" as a fun and educational read. It is a novel but it adheres closely to historical fact. The feat is made even more impressive by the fact that the author does not speak Russian and worked entirely from translated material.

    Replies: @Fox

    , @Desiderius
    @Anonymous

    Lol.

    When I was in East Berlin just before the wall came down the whole place was literally falling apart. In another ten years it would have been Cuba. The WWII vet older relative I was staying with in BRD had just been over to the DDR for the first time recently and was absolutely stunned. "Alles Kaput!" is all he kept saying. My UK professors were still trying to argue at the time that the DDR was, if not the superior model at least competitive enough that the Hungarian/Yugoslavian(!) "third way" was preferable to Western capitalism.

    All a house built on clouds.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  240. @Matt Buckalew
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Does anyone here fuck other than me? That girl isn’t pretty enough to make my high school’s cheerleading squad unless her mom coached it.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Aeronerauk

    None of your high school cheerleaders has won a silver medal in Olympic figure skating. Sasha Cohen has.

    • Replies: @HFR
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Not only did Sasha Cohen win a silver medal at the Olympics, she also was on the podium at 3 World Championships. And then she got a degree from Columbia. Not so bad for a cheerleading reject.

    , @Truth
    @Buzz Mohawk

    You forgot the "Baron."

  241. @Trinity
    I would have loved to see if one of these transgender "athletes" would have had the guts to take on Ann Wolfe when she was in her prime in the ring. Of course they would have to make weight although Ann could have probably fought some at a catchweight and still kicked their sorry asses.

    Dafne Schipper, a female athlete who looks like a Nordic goddess could easily support one of these freaks in any track and field event. And Schipper is still young enough to compete unlike Ann.

    Biden? I'm guessing he could cover the 40 in about 5 minutes.

    Replies: @jon

    I would have loved to see if one of these transgender “athletes” would have had the guts to take on Ann Wolfe when she was in her prime in the ring.

    Fallon Fox had the “guts” to crush a women’s skull in the ring, so I am guessing plenty of other trans athletes would have the guts to take on this women I’ve never heard of.

    • Replies: @Trinity
    @jon

    Ann Wolfe is past it but obviously you have never seen her fight. Believe me, Ann Wolfe, in her prime, would destroy the average male NON-FIGHTER who weighed below 160lbs in shape and fat out of shape slobs or people who don't know how to fight at 200lbs and below. Just simply do a search for Ann Wolfe. Could Ann Wolfe beaten some sub-par Tranny that could not compete with males as a fighter and then became a female back then? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Wolfe would have beaten the crap out of some Tranny pretend athlete.

  242. @Rosie
    @Mike Tre


    It’s blatant anti male discrimination, you ditz.
     
    Aw boohoo, little Mikey doesn't like having to share.

    Replies: @Jim Christian, @Mike Tre, @Alice in Wonderland

    LOL! You sound like the negroes who feel they’re entitled to the fruits of someone else’s hard work too.

  243. @Mike Tre
    @Rosie

    Is the revenue generated by women’s college sports equal to that of men’s?

    How about the interest in sports by women compared to men?

    The funny thing his, pretty much every man here (that you bash collectively) is against men competing in women’s sports (they are merely ridiculing the self inflicted wounds the left is suffering from).

    Also, missed yours and Alden’s condolences in the Kathy Shaidle post, but saw a lot of men offering theirs. Huh!

    Replies: @Ray P, @Anonymous

    Kathy regularly remarked ‘Thanks for nothing bitches!’.

  244. A typical communist trick is to declare no difference where there is, and a huge chasm where none exists. To reach the point when the average person is perfectly comfortable holding two contradictory ideas in their mind and believing both.

    “If they can make you believe absurdities, they can make you commit atrocities.” (Voltaire)

  245. @Jonathan Mason
    If Cristiano Ronaldo decides to cut off his dick so that he can prolong his career for a few more years, Portugal will have a serious chance of winning the women's soccer World Cup.

    Christine Ronaldo could break all kinds of records in the women's game, like scoring a dozen goals in a single game with his left foot.

    Replies: @Travis, @Jeff, @Brutusale, @Anon7, @HA, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Ghost of Bull Moose

    The reality is not just a female-identified Cristiano Ronaldo dominating a women’s game, but that the last 20 guys they cut from the Portuguese National Team would basically be just as dominant.

    • Agree: Cortes
  246. This, and the appointment of Richard Transgender Levine as Health Secretary are what it seems, a giant “F.U.” to Middle America.

    To make suburban moms and dads watch their darling soccer-playing daughters kicked and having their legs broken by a giant negro male “transgender”. Who will later rape them in the “Female” bathroom.

    To make you not only unable to criticize the authoritarian “corona lockdown”, any criticism of the policies will be labelled “transphobic” and earn you several points less in your “social credit” and probably make you lose your job.

  247. The Democrats just want power, and this is a basic “do you see the deer as a horse?” test, similar to the “2+2=5” from 1984.

    Everyone who fails to recognize the truth and justice in Biden’s TransOrder is an enemy and will be punished. The Dems are smoking them out, wherever they may be.

    This also lets them “vet” the military; the fact that most of our troops vote Republican has stuck in their craw for a generation. NPR today was full of “concern” over the fact that there are people who are not enthusiastic Leftists in the military. NPR also discussed the fact that some people in the military even get special training that could make them dangerous as civilians.

  248. OT: Inside iSteve’s hard drive this appeared in my “world” …

    Dr. Masha Gessen on HARVARD graduate Amanda Gorman’s inaugural sonnet:

    https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/amanda-gormans-inaugural-poem-is-a-stunning-vision-of-democracy

    Living is easy with eyes closed misunderstanding all you see …

    • LOL: Ben tillman
  249. @JohnPlywood
    @Buzz Mohawk

    It resembles a pugnacious gremlin. I fail to see how anyone can see anything attractive here.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    We can be pretty sure she wouldn’t find you attractive either.

  250. @Jonathan Mason
    If Cristiano Ronaldo decides to cut off his dick so that he can prolong his career for a few more years, Portugal will have a serious chance of winning the women's soccer World Cup.

    Christine Ronaldo could break all kinds of records in the women's game, like scoring a dozen goals in a single game with his left foot.

    Replies: @Travis, @Jeff, @Brutusale, @Anon7, @HA, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Forget Christine Ronaldo; the Australian national Women’s Soccer Team (ranked 5th in the world) was beaten 7-0 in a game against fifteen year-old boys in 2016.

  251. @Jonathan Mason
    If Cristiano Ronaldo decides to cut off his dick so that he can prolong his career for a few more years, Portugal will have a serious chance of winning the women's soccer World Cup.

    Christine Ronaldo could break all kinds of records in the women's game, like scoring a dozen goals in a single game with his left foot.

    Replies: @Travis, @Jeff, @Brutusale, @Anon7, @HA, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Ghost of Bull Moose

    “If Cristiano Ronaldo decides to cut off his…”

    Would he need to cut off anything? If so, that would imply that those who choose not to undergo any surgery are to be denied the ability to live out their desired gender, and that the biological determinists were right all along.

  252. @Liza
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)


    Who can make pampered suburban white women decide en masse on a dime that mutilating the genitals of children and pumping them full of hormones is a good thing to do (in exchange for thumbs up and likes on social media)?
     
    Just by way of commenting. Beginning maybe in the 1920s and picking up speed thereafter, it was hip for parents to sign on to the mutilating trend with infant circumcision of their baby boys. But you can't lay the blame on women alone. Even back then, intact (uncut) fathers were only too anxious to have their sons "done" because, you know, it was the latest thing, a healthy thing for the kid. Cleaner, they believed. Would prevent masturbation, hip joint disease and 100 other potential conditions.

    Urban parents couldn't sign up for this fast enough. It was part of middle and upper class upwardly-mobile outlook. So, I'd say that's the beginning of the knife-in-the-genitals-as-cure-for-everything mentality. Only a matter of time before marginally confused little kids needed an even more drastic "cure".

    This circumcision schit all started in the western world with the English/British while the rest of Europe never bought into it, not at all. And Amerika being a colony of Britain, well, there ya go!

    https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/transgender-population-by-state

    What Percentage of the Population is Transgender 2020

    Top of the list: Delaware, with 10,213 trannies per 100,000 population. SMH.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Dissident, @anon, @Matra

    The Jews have been circumcising their male infants for at least 3,000 years and it never turned them trannie before.

    • Replies: @Jack Armstrong
    @Jack D

    Milton Berle.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Jiminy
    @Jack D

    It’s funny you should mention the Jews and circumcision. I jokingly said that Kam had to vet all of Biden’s republican guard to see if they were circumcised or not . Those that weren’t, could not be trusted to guard “The Great Pretender” at his ceremony.

  253. Can’t we all just get along? Can’t we drop competitive sports and just enjoy wedding dancing?

    Feast your eyes on these figures, lads; I don’t think that is any argument about who the men are and who the women are here in the Caucasus.

    Note that not only is there no touching; there is no eye contact, either.

    • Agree: Polemos
    • Replies: @anon
    @Anon7

    Thanks for that. I'm seeing little echoes and traces of something that's old, really old.

    I wonder if Yamnaya horse riders would find a bit of this to be familiar.

    , @JMcG
    @Anon7

    That was bracing to see. Not to trivialize it at all, but it was very much like that Riverdance stuff that was popular 20 years ago. There’s nothing more beautiful than a beautiful girl. Great to see that there are still people lime that in the world. Thank you!

    , @Known Fact
    @Anon7

    No touching and no eye contact? In America that's after the wedding!

  254. @Alden
    @ben tillman

    I have always felt that if 50 percent of physicians must be women by the affirmative action laws, 50 percent of nurses must be women. Same with teachers. And auto insurance rates for 16-35 year old men should be the same.

    I don’t know why more men don’t go into nursing school. Only 4 years instead of 8 plus 5 year residency. Because of the lengthy education and further training and cost of 8 years of college, life time earnings if Drs and nurses are getting closer. Men are happy to be low wage EMTs Why they stay away from nursing I don’t know. Nurses in California make about $135K a year. That’s the 36 hour week. Best thing about nurses, they have one of the toughest unions in the country. While Drs have just submitted to the insurance companies. Plus nurses can travel. Go to one of the Gulf companies and make 100K plus a year with free housing and utilities even free meals in the hospital cafeterias no taxes in the country you’re working in and lower American income taxes. Come home with hundreds of thousands in savings.

    Nursing school is the one college White men are not discriminated against.

    Replies: @additionalMike

    “Men are happy to be low wage EMTs Why they stay away from nursing I don’t know.”

    My nephew is a helicopter EMT…the impression I get is that a lot of these guys are adrenaline junkies, like many emergency workers and servicemen.

  255. @watzi2w
    I think now is the time to lean back and prepare the popcorn: There is a subculture in feminism - TERFs (TransExclusionaryRadicalFeminism) who hates - really HATES - transpeople with an intensity only women can hate: Will be interesting what they have to say...
    Another culture whose reaction will be interesting are Muslim, who want their women to wear a hijab: I cannot imagine that their ideas of propriety allow a self-identified transgender (with male parts still attached) to enter a bathroom or locker reserved for women...

    Replies: @houston 1992

    So, you ‘re saying that Islam is right about transgenderism?

  256. @Jake
    @anon

    I agree. The Feminazis used Title IX to destroy a hundreds of men's college sports teams so hundreds of women's teams that absolutely nobody will ever care about could be funded. Now the logic of Feminism as being Pro-Gay having its own logic leading to promotion of sacred transsexualism will allow men pretending to be women to run amuck in women's sports.

    How low ranked was that man tennis player who dominated Serena Williams?

    Replies: @Calvin Hobbes, @George

    How low ranked was that man tennis player who dominated Serena Williams?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karsten_Braasch

    Karsten Braasch (born 14 July 1967) is a German former professional tennis player. His highest ATP singles ranking was World No. 38, which he reached in June 1994. His career-high in doubles was World No. 36, achieved in November 1997.[1] He was well-noted for his service motion and his habit of smoking during changeovers.

    Braasch competed in a “Battle of the Sexes” contest against the Williams sisters (Venus and Serena) at the 1998 Australian Open when he was ranked 203. Braasch was described by one journalist as “a man whose training regime centred around a pack of cigarettes and more than a couple bottles of ice cold lager”.[2] He nonetheless defeated both sisters, playing a single set against each, beating Serena 6–1 and Venus 6–2.[3] Braasch was thirty years old at the time, while Venus and Serena were seventeen and sixteen, respectively.

  257. @ben tillman
    @Henry's Cat


    Since nobody really cares about female sports, which mainly subsist on the coattails of the men, it’s easy to dismiss this issue as insignificant or irrelevant. If, however, a geezer won the women’s tennis Grand Slam that would certainly put the cat amongst the pigeons. But would any man have the chutzpah, not to say the balls, to carry it off? No Serena jokes, please.
     
    Yes, it's already happened -- back in the '70's. Here's a white man's take on the spectacle of Dr, Richard Raskind taking on Chris Evert at the US Women's Clay Court Championships in Indianapolis many years ago:

    https://www.whitenationalism.com/cwar/orange.htm

    Here's a Jewish perspective:

    https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/.premium-1977-renee-richards-wins-for-transgender-rights-1.5425096

    A summary of his record playing as a "woman":

    https://db4tennis.com/players/female/renee-richards

    Richards played professionally from 1977 to 1981 when she retired at age 47. She was ranked as high as 20th overall (in February 1979), and her highest ranking at the end of a year was 22nd (in 1977). Her first professional event as a female was the 1977 U.S. Open. Her greatest successes on court were reaching the doubles final at her first U.S. Open in 1977, with Betty Ann Grubb Stuart – the pair lost a close match to Martina Navratilova and Betty Stöve – and winning the 35-and-over women's singles. Richards was twice a semifinalist in mixed doubles, with Ilie Năstase, at the U.S. Open. In 1979, she defeated Nancy Richey for the 35-and-over singles title at the Open. Richards posted wins over Hana Mandlíková, Sylvia Hanika, Virginia Ruzici, and Pam Shriver.
     

    Replies: @Liberty Mike, @Ron Mexico, @Charlesz Martel

    I used to do a lot of business with a guy whose teenage daughter had an eye injury requiring immediate treatment. The Dr. that they wound up getting was Renee Richards. This was around 1984-85.
    He told me he didn’t even realize that the Dr. was a transsexual and only realized who she was at the end of treatment.
    Said she was very competent and a good Dr., so I assume it all turned out well.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @Charlesz Martel

    Interesting. I can believe it.

  258. @J
    They asked for it.

    Replies: @Wadco

    They who?

  259. @Anon7
    Can't we all just get along? Can't we drop competitive sports and just enjoy wedding dancing?

    Feast your eyes on these figures, lads; I don't think that is any argument about who the men are and who the women are here in the Caucasus.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua95fPR6HC8

    Note that not only is there no touching; there is no eye contact, either.

    Replies: @anon, @JMcG, @Known Fact

    Thanks for that. I’m seeing little echoes and traces of something that’s old, really old.

    I wonder if Yamnaya horse riders would find a bit of this to be familiar.

  260. @Anonymous
    @Guy De Champlagne


    And, what disturbs even more people, is that Title IX combined with the fact that men are more interested in sports results in male teams getting cut entirely.
     
    I've never seen women play sports together just for fun outside of some social, organized setting.

    Men who are complete strangers to each other will, for example, congregate at public basketball courts to play pickup basketball games with each other.

    Replies: @Alice in Wonderland

    I’ve never seen women play sports together just for fun outside of some social, organized setting.

    Men who are complete strangers to each other will, for example, congregate at public basketball courts to play pickup basketball games with each other.

    Astute observation.

    I like to play sports, but mostly individual sports like running, skating and swimming. I run, go to the rink, and go swim laps by myself but that isn’t really the same. I do confess that I would use my kids to play sports with when they young before they got good and joined teams. But I can’t think of any other moms I know who did. Mostly there are no places for women to play pick up games. The very few women who would do it can’t find the other very few women who want to. Maybe the tennis club? The closest thing would be maybe an exercise class or a bridge club. Women will workout next to strangers at the gym or exercise class or swim laps. I know bridge is not a regular physical sport, but the bridge club will give you a partner to play with, so a stranger for what amounts to like a pick up game.

    But, yeah, you are pretty much right.

    • Thanks: Polemos
  261. @Alden
    @Rosie

    It was men gay directors of ballet companies who decreed that ballerinas should be built like the gay ideal, skinny 11 year old boys. Just look at 1950s 60s dancers. They are normal slim, 5’4 110 pounds, not 85 pounds. Men!!

    It’s not even a career, crippled and retired on disability at age 30. . It’s fun though I love it.

    Replies: @Charlesz Martel

    I knew a very famous ballerina who had to do exercises every day of her life to avoid being in constant pain. Ballet makes your body do things it’s not designed to do.
    She had a very long career, including taking a break to have children, and went back to ballet and was still at the top of her game. She’s still active today in her 80’s, though no longer dancing professionally. So there are exceptions, but in general, most ballerinas are done by their mid 20’s, if not earlier.

  262. @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle
    @stillCARealist

    In a large number of male prisons they already segregate the population by homosexuality or whether they're convicted of sex crimes. Something about the main prison population not wanting to put up with those types of behavior.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    In the prison I worked in there was a “faith-based” wing where religious prisoners could go, and it seemed like a lot of the gender-challenged prisoners got religion once they were locked up, and opted to spend their recreational hours practicing in the choir where there was safety in numbers.

  263. @Matt Buckalew
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Does anyone here fuck other than me? That girl isn’t pretty enough to make my high school’s cheerleading squad unless her mom coached it.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Aeronerauk

    >doubt

  264. Expect a lot of this nonsense, since the Dems don’t have any policies other than ‘fundamental transformation.’ This is 0bama’s line naturally, as no one who loves their country seeks to‘fundamentally transform’ it.

  265. @Jake
    @anon

    I agree. The Feminazis used Title IX to destroy a hundreds of men's college sports teams so hundreds of women's teams that absolutely nobody will ever care about could be funded. Now the logic of Feminism as being Pro-Gay having its own logic leading to promotion of sacred transsexualism will allow men pretending to be women to run amuck in women's sports.

    How low ranked was that man tennis player who dominated Serena Williams?

    Replies: @Calvin Hobbes, @George

    “hundreds of women’s teams that absolutely nobody will ever care about could be funded. ”

    But I bet the ladies had more legit credentials as student athletes. Universities running professional minor league sports teams with exploited, often Black, players is wrong IMO.

    If you like rhetorical tricks they could recharacterize the men’s teams as open division athletics (open to all athletes) and the women’s team as XX division athletics (as in their sex chromosomes.) That is sort of done with downs syndrome athletics.

  266. @photondancer
    Of all the problems facing the USA right now, Biden has consistently prioritised the transgender agenda. I *really* want to know who is behind it. They are extraordinarily good at getting their way.

    Replies: @unit472, @Thoughts, @Mike Tre, @Dumbo, @Walsh2, @peterike, @Michelle, @Getaclue, @Thea, @BenKenobi, @Buffalo Joe, @Jeff, @Desiderius, @Desiderius, @Anon, @Cornbeef, @Dennis Dale, @CCZ

  267. @Michelle
    @photondancer

    In India Trannies ride on subway trains demanding money from passengers. They threaten to hex you if you don't fork over the rupee's. Same thing is happening here.

    Replies: @White Guy In Japan

    In Thailand, the ladyboy is often seen as being magical. They are also seen as cursed, atoning for misdeeds from a previous life.

    • Replies: @Michelle
    @White Guy In Japan

    Thai ladyboy's are better looking than ours.

    Replies: @Michelle

  268. Has anyone found a link between declining fertility and women’s increasing participation in sports?

    • Replies: @Bite Moi
    @Agathoklis

    Agathoklis=====I would think that junk food fueled obesity is a bigger female fertility problem.

  269. @Lot
    @Clyde

    Sentence too long, cut last 6 words.

    https://www.liverampup.com/uploads/images/Brittney%20Griner.jpg

    Replies: @ATate

    Yeesh.

    She got in trouble a while ago for beating her wife.

  270. Totally OT, Covid related.

    The YUGE change in UK vaccination policy that I noted here (from the three week interval recommended by Pfizer to a three MONTH interval recommended by no one) is being questioned, as reports from Israel say just one jab isn’t enough to give more than 33% protection, whereas two jabs in 21 days gives 95%.

    I presume the decision was made in the light of knowing the projected vaccine supply levels which obviously weren’t good.

    Looks like the Brits are going to give a lot of oldies poor protection against Covid, rather than giving half the number of people good protection. “A very brave decision” as Sir Humphrey would say.

    https://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2021/01/20/revisiting-the-uks-strategy-for-delaying-the-second-dose-of-the-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine/

    “International organisations such as the Centre for Disease Control (CDC), the World Health Organization (WHO), and regulatory bodies such as the Food and Drugs Administration (FDA) in the US; and the European Medicines Agency (EMA) have advised that the vaccination schedules, as defined from the published peer reviewed studies from Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna (the other mRNA vaccine), should be followed (respectively 1/22 day and 1/29 day first/second dose vaccinations). [5] The German and US governments have recently stated that they do not intend to delay the second covid-19 vaccine shot and Pfizer and Moderna do not support the delay strategy.”

    The current UK strategy with the Pfizer mRNA vaccine is, in our view, a non-randomised, uncontrolled population experimental study without pilot data. The Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JVCI) and Public Health England should be prepared to revisit and, if necessary, reverse their decisions based on emerging scientific evidence. At the time of writing a statement released by Israeli officials has indicated that “real world” analysis of 200,000 people age >60 years, who have had the first dose of the Pfizer vaccine, shows efficacy of 33%, far less than the 89% stated by the JCVI. These new real world data suggest that the UK should reconsider the decision to delay the second dose of the Pfizer/BioNTech.”

    Israel’s coronavirus tsar has warned that a single dose of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine may be providing less protection than originally hoped, as the country reported a record 10,000 new Covid infections on Monday.

    In remarks reported by Army Radio, Nachman Ash said a single dose appeared “less effective than we had thought”, and also lower than Pfizer had suggested.

    By contrast, those who had received their second dose of the Pfizer vaccine had a six- to 12-fold increase in antibodies, according to data released by Sheba Medical Center in Tel Hashomer on Monday.

    • Replies: @Andy Ritter
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Yeah, that was a hell of gamble the Government there took, and a real strange one I thought, but it had/has incredible unanimity among Brits, from skeptic Peter Hitchens to all the mainstream experts. And if it fails, and fails hugely, it's something Boris, who's on the precipice already, will presumably have to stand down over, and I think he should swing for it.

  271. @Rosie
    @Mike Tre


    It’s blatant anti male discrimination, you ditz.
     
    Aw boohoo, little Mikey doesn't like having to share.

    Replies: @Jim Christian, @Mike Tre, @Alice in Wonderland

    Aw boohoo, little Mikey doesn’t like having to share.

    uh no. It isn’t even sharing. Men who want to play sports outnumber women who do by at least 10 to 1. So, a fair “share” would be to fund women’s sports at somewhere around 10% of the amount spent on men’s.

  272. The Olympics will also be destroyed.

    Trannies with balls will enter the women’s events and take all the Gold medals.

    The genuine female Olympic athletes should protest by fistfighting at the Games.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @Smarg Jones


    The Olympics will also be destroyed.
     
    The Olympics is all about politics. The Olympics was destroyed when the United States turned it into a political event back in 1980.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

  273. @Liza
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)


    Who can make pampered suburban white women decide en masse on a dime that mutilating the genitals of children and pumping them full of hormones is a good thing to do (in exchange for thumbs up and likes on social media)?
     
    Just by way of commenting. Beginning maybe in the 1920s and picking up speed thereafter, it was hip for parents to sign on to the mutilating trend with infant circumcision of their baby boys. But you can't lay the blame on women alone. Even back then, intact (uncut) fathers were only too anxious to have their sons "done" because, you know, it was the latest thing, a healthy thing for the kid. Cleaner, they believed. Would prevent masturbation, hip joint disease and 100 other potential conditions.

    Urban parents couldn't sign up for this fast enough. It was part of middle and upper class upwardly-mobile outlook. So, I'd say that's the beginning of the knife-in-the-genitals-as-cure-for-everything mentality. Only a matter of time before marginally confused little kids needed an even more drastic "cure".

    This circumcision schit all started in the western world with the English/British while the rest of Europe never bought into it, not at all. And Amerika being a colony of Britain, well, there ya go!

    https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/transgender-population-by-state

    What Percentage of the Population is Transgender 2020

    Top of the list: Delaware, with 10,213 trannies per 100,000 population. SMH.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Dissident, @anon, @Matra

    So, I’d say that’s the beginning of the knife-in-the-genitals-as-cure-for-everything mentality. Only a matter of time before marginally confused little kids needed an even more drastic “cure”.

    Is there any data correlating parents who circumcise their sons with parents that “transition” a child?

    If anything, in the United States, at least, the incidence of circumcision has decreased over the past three decades.

    SMH.

    Sydney Morning Herald?

    An article from last March (2020) in that newspaper reports,

    Young boys and men are increasingly being circumcised. The number of circumcisions with a local anaesthetic grew by nearly 60 per cent from 6518 in the year ending June 2017 to 10,352 in the year ending June 2019, Medicare item reports show.

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    The number of circumcisions with a regional nerve block more than doubled from 5425 in 2017 to 11,526 in 2019. These numbers do not include services provided by hospital doctors to public patients in public hospitals. Last financial year there were 4174 admissions to public hospitals for circumcision for medical reasons, the Australian Institute of Health and Welfare reported.
    […]
    The rate of newborn circumcision, once routine for social reasons, has plummeted to between 10 and 20 per cent of babies, the Paediatrics & Child Health Division of the Royal Australasian College of Physicians said.

  274. @jon
    @Trinity


    I would have loved to see if one of these transgender “athletes” would have had the guts to take on Ann Wolfe when she was in her prime in the ring.
     
    Fallon Fox had the "guts" to crush a women's skull in the ring, so I am guessing plenty of other trans athletes would have the guts to take on this women I've never heard of.

    Replies: @Trinity

    Ann Wolfe is past it but obviously you have never seen her fight. Believe me, Ann Wolfe, in her prime, would destroy the average male NON-FIGHTER who weighed below 160lbs in shape and fat out of shape slobs or people who don’t know how to fight at 200lbs and below. Just simply do a search for Ann Wolfe. Could Ann Wolfe beaten some sub-par Tranny that could not compete with males as a fighter and then became a female back then? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Wolfe would have beaten the crap out of some Tranny pretend athlete.

  275. Anonymous[394] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mike Tre
    @Rosie

    Is the revenue generated by women’s college sports equal to that of men’s?

    How about the interest in sports by women compared to men?

    The funny thing his, pretty much every man here (that you bash collectively) is against men competing in women’s sports (they are merely ridiculing the self inflicted wounds the left is suffering from).

    Also, missed yours and Alden’s condolences in the Kathy Shaidle post, but saw a lot of men offering theirs. Huh!

    Replies: @Ray P, @Anonymous

    The funny thing his, pretty much every man here (that you bash collectively) is against men competing in women’s sports (they are merely ridiculing the self inflicted wounds the left is suffering from).

    There shouldn’t exist officially-backed segregated sports. If there are official programs at all, let there be solely one league or competition and let the participants be a selection from the best among men and women. But we must acknowledge that such programs are unfair to the non-best men who are excluded, as well as to non-best women who are excluded.

  276. Anonymous[394] • Disclaimer says:
    @KenH
    Wonder what all of the woman who play sports and who proudly cast votes for Biden now think? They just had to get rid of the racist fascist orange man and now they just screwed themselves.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Wonder what all of the woman who play sports and who proudly cast votes for Biden now think? They just had to get rid of the racist fascist orange man and now they just screwed themselves.

    Why should a tiny minority of women receive benefits from these programs to the exclusion of the vast majority of women?

  277. Surely allowing men to participate in women’s sports is only an American thing and it won’t affect events such as Wimbledon or the women’s World Soccer Cup or the Olympics, since other nations will have a say and I dare say 99% will laugh at the idea..

    • Replies: @photondancer
    @martin_2

    Last I heard the IOC won't stop a man competing in a woman's event as long as he can get his testosterone levels down. Doesn't matter that he may already have developed superior height and strength before he starts playing with his hormones. As for Wimbledon, the UK is just as woke as the USA so it is only a matter of time before some man tries it.

    A lot of posters here and elsewhere blame the success of the transgender movement on Big Pharma and I don't doubt the medico-industrial complex is delighted to have this source of funds and guinea pigs, but it's also a big covert backlash against women's rights by people who want to deny they're doing that.

    , @dfordoom
    @martin_2


    Surely allowing men to participate in women’s sports is only an American thing and it won’t affect events such as Wimbledon or the women’s World Soccer Cup or the Olympics, since other nations will have a say and I dare say 99% will laugh at the idea.
     
    Other nations will do whatever the US tells them to do.
  278. anon[177] • Disclaimer says:
    @Liza
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)


    Who can make pampered suburban white women decide en masse on a dime that mutilating the genitals of children and pumping them full of hormones is a good thing to do (in exchange for thumbs up and likes on social media)?
     
    Just by way of commenting. Beginning maybe in the 1920s and picking up speed thereafter, it was hip for parents to sign on to the mutilating trend with infant circumcision of their baby boys. But you can't lay the blame on women alone. Even back then, intact (uncut) fathers were only too anxious to have their sons "done" because, you know, it was the latest thing, a healthy thing for the kid. Cleaner, they believed. Would prevent masturbation, hip joint disease and 100 other potential conditions.

    Urban parents couldn't sign up for this fast enough. It was part of middle and upper class upwardly-mobile outlook. So, I'd say that's the beginning of the knife-in-the-genitals-as-cure-for-everything mentality. Only a matter of time before marginally confused little kids needed an even more drastic "cure".

    This circumcision schit all started in the western world with the English/British while the rest of Europe never bought into it, not at all. And Amerika being a colony of Britain, well, there ya go!

    https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/transgender-population-by-state

    What Percentage of the Population is Transgender 2020

    Top of the list: Delaware, with 10,213 trannies per 100,000 population. SMH.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Dissident, @anon, @Matra

    Any discussion of circumcision in the US that does not include the name John Harvey Kellogg is grossly uninformed. He didn’t just invent corn flakes, and he had an obsession about masturbation. Neither has anything to do with mentally disturbed men in dresses.

    You don’t know much. Learn more then get back to us.

    • Replies: @Liza
    @anon


    Any discussion of circumcision in the US that does not include the name John Harvey Kellogg is grossly uninformed. He didn’t just invent corn flakes, and he had an obsession about masturbation. Neither has anything to do with mentally disturbed men in dresses.

    You don’t know much. Learn more then get back to us.
     

    Oh, I wasn't pretending to give a complete history of nonjewish cirn'n. There's plenty of that all over the interwebz. Just saying (I guess not clearly) that folks seem to think that slicing genitals is somehow a good idea for either prevention (of countless conditions in the case of infant circ) OR a cure for mild mental disturbance (in the case of turning boys into girls).

    About JH Kellogg, I was familiar with his crazy ideas 25 years ago when my son was born. That's all I needed to know.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  279. @Arclight
    On WWT, the BLM insanity and so on, I've basically concluded that the public needs to get these policies good and hard for an extended period of time before a critical mass of people are fed up enough for it to be worthwhile for politicians to make changes.

    We have much further to fall as a society before there is any hope for a rebound.

    Replies: @Frank McGar, @jon, @JosephB

    On WWT, the BLM insanity and so on, I’ve basically concluded that the public needs to get these policies good and hard for an extended period of time before a critical mass of people are fed up enough for it to be worthwhile for politicians to make changes.

    Yep. I’ve moved to a “pass the popcorn” mentality.

  280. Can’t wait for this policy to work its way up to women’s pro sports, particularly the National soccer team.

    • Replies: @Anonymous Jew
    @Bostwick

    Pretty much already there with the Olympics:

    https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2020/february/first-trans-athlete-to-compete-as-woman-in-usa-olympic-marathon-trials-in-atlanta

  281. Putting Transgenders back in girls sports, looks like China Joe’s plan to get women off the playing field and back in the kitchen.

  282. @Ron Mexico
    @ben tillman

    I remembered the name, but didn't realize "he/she" partnered with Nasty Nastase. Must have been entertaining.

    Replies: @ben tillman

    I was thinking the same thing.

  283. @Lot
    @Rosie

    “ I don’t see what that has to do with whether colleges and universities should provide equal athletic opportunities for women.”

    The current rule is equal outcomes, not opportunities. The pool of women who want to be college athletes is much smaller, but they get the same number of spots.

    In addition to being unfair, it also results in upper and upper-middle class families putting gigantic resources and pressure onto high school girls to use athletics for a scholarship or preferential admission.

    Higher education in the USA is now so fully a force for evil, anything to damage and disrupt it, such as obnoxious trannies, is positive.

    Replies: @Rosie

    The current rule is equal outcomes, not opportunities.

    Not in the case of athletics, it isn’t.

    In addition to being unfair, it also results in upper and upper-middle class families putting gigantic resources and pressure onto high school girls to use athletics for a scholarship or preferential admission.

    In other words, young girls are spending more time exercising and thinking nabout their future and less time chasing boys.

    That sounds like a fabulously successful policy to me.

    Higher education in the USA is now so fully a force for evil,

    So long as it is at women’s expense, not men’s.

    https://californiahealthline.org/morning-breakout/teen-sex-girl-athletes-less-likely-to-become-pregnant-endstoryhed/#:~:text=A%20new%20nationwide%20survey%20has,reports%20(5%2F14).

  284. @Getaclue
    @Rosie

    Bad? It has very much helped to destroy Western Civilization/USA and got us where we are today in large part -- but you probably like that. So enjoy "Bruce" in the toilet with you - - Feminists are disgusting - - "piglets" hmmm I won't say but light years past that -- self righteous arsonists. Men have been getting screwed over for many decades now as to the "oppressed" women, who actually have way more than 50% of the money as the men die sooner and who are privileged in every manner including in criminal prosecutions, Divorce, College selection, job quotas etc. so tired of them and their whining for every advantage they don't deserve -- so here you go -- yes enjoy "Bruce" in the toilet with you and in your daughter's shower, he's harmless just ask "it".

    Replies: @Rosie

    That’s a nice laundry list of unsupported nonsense you have there. A suggestion: Pick one point and make a coherent case so we can have a rational discussion about it.

  285. @Jim Christian
    @Rosie

    Way to defend your position vs. his, Rosie.

    Replies: @Rosie

    Way to defend your position vs. his, Rosie.

    He didn’t state a position. He called me a “ditz” and told me to get back in the kitchen. He got the response he deserved.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Rosie

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw3xH2jO9EE

  286. This sounds like a bad idea. I advocated and voted for the other team and lost this time. There’s not much I can do. Let others fight this one. If my daughters pick up a serious sport, maybe I’ll need to be more engaged. Otherwise, I wish everyone well.

  287. @Buzz Mohawk
    OT: There was a walkout today at The New Yorker, but nobody got it.

    Roughly 100 staffers of The New Yorker magazine walked off their jobs on Thursday in protest of pay disparities.

    https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/continuous-line-drawing-people-walking-street-work-time-conteptual-hand-drawn-minimalism-lineart-design-isolated-157630544.jpg

    Replies: @Jim Christian, @Moral Stone, @Reg Cæsar

    What’s with the tunics and pantaloons? Can’t keep up with fashion these days!

  288. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @Jack D


    Field hockey is no more and no less a “children’s game” than any other sport. In many parts of the world it is played by men. I suppose in the US the men’s version is mostly crowded out by ice hockey and by lacrosse.

    You can object to almost ALL sports on the grounds that they are mere children’s games. The thing is that there is vastly more demand among spectators and the players to watch and participate in certain children’s games vs others, but Title IX substitutes government micromanagement for the judgment of the marketplace.
     
    I see Kyle's point though - he's writing that the Iowa Women's Field Hockey team didn't seem upon first blush to be a serious or high-level athletic enterprise but rather a social club arranged around travel and hitting a ball about. In such a case, is the travel part even necessary or something worth the expense if teams of a similar level of competition could probably be found within 30 miles of campus?

    At least in the case of BIG10 Football, it's a serious athletic enterprise justifying the necessity to fly the team across the Midwest to find competitive peers. You may object that BIG10 Football is too serious of an athletic enterprise (and the correlated academic exercise not serious enough), but it's a thing that's wholly different than what Kyle was describing. Indeed, the football programs generate excess revenue to fund other athletic programs which cannot self-fund. (Perhaps a better compromise would be directing the football revenue into academic programs).

    Replies: @Moral Stone, @Reg Cæsar, @Alden

    I’m not sure having one team each year (out of a conference of also-rans) barely good enough to get heemed in the playoffs by an SEC or ACC school qualifies Big 10 football as “serious.” I’ll grant you it is probably a revenue generating enterprise as midwestern football might be marginally more entertaining to the folks out there than their other option – literally watching corn grow.

  289. @Jake
    @Altai

    According to Trannie faith today, you are what you assert sexually, even if you never get a shingle hormone shot, much less a surgery. If that is upheld, then a bunch of enterprising guys not good enough for tennis, golf, lacrosse, soccer etc scholarships should proclaim themselves women and sue if they do not get scholarships.

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @photondancer, @Guy Cabellero

    That’s already been happening for the past year, maybe longer.

  290. @Rosie
    @Guy De Champlagne


    Title IX combined with the fact that men are better a sports means that a woman gets more sports program and scholarship funding than an equally skilled man.
     
    If you have a problem with 50/50, what percentage of athletic budgets do you think should be allocated to women’s sports? 25%, 10%, or were you thinking more along the lines of a 100/0 split?

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @TelfoedJohn, @ben tillman, @GamecockJerry, @Mike Tre, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @TheMan, @Guy De Champlagne, @Paperback Writer, @JR Ewing

    It’s true, Rosie.

    As Title IX passes through its 33rd year of existence it is important to examine the other side of the equal opportunity argument that the legislation is supposed to promote. During this time frame in which strides have been made in women’s athletics, men’s athletic programs have generally suffered. More than 400 men’s athletic teams have been eliminated as a result of Universities needing to become NCAA compliant. The sports worst hit have been low revenue Olympic sports such as wrestling, swimming and track and field. This is a disturbing trend that was never intended when Title IX was introduced.

    Clearly this is grossly unfair to males as more males are interested in competing in collegiate sports than women.

    https://www.athleticscholarships.net/title-ix-college-athletics-9.htm

    To answer your question, I don’t know. But what happened was totally wrong. This EO is also wrong, but my feeling is, it’s not yet my fight. Let women fight this one on their own.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Paperback Writer


    To answer your question, I don’t know. But what happened was totally wrong. This EO is also wrong, but my feeling is, it’s not yet my fight. Let women fight this one on their own.
     
    Thanks for not being a petty, spiteful jerk.

    Anyway, the funny thing is that college costs have gone through the roof since then. Are the colleges really so hard up for cash they can't swing men's wrestling and girl's lacrosse? I seriously doubt it. They're not cutting these programs because of Title 9. They're doing it because of executive greed.

    People who hate women will blame women first. They will ignore all the makework jobs for black rioters, the out-of-control executive salaries, and all manner of wasteful spending while they (pretend to) take universities' claims of poverty at face value. Moreover, I think it's deliberate, malicious scapegoating. Misogynists may be stupid, but they're not that stupid.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

  291. @Clyde
    These girls and women don't want a guy in their locker room and showers.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Lot, @guest007, @Forbes, @Servant of Gla'aki, @Desiderius, @Bite Moi, @Bartleby the Scrivner, @Truth

    Clyde——-Women should have let the men enjoy their own exclusively male clubs and organizations,but they didn’t.

  292. @Morton's toes
    @Curle

    Hope Solo was a goalie.

    Do goalies qualify as real soccer players?

    Aren't they the European equal to punters and placekickers? At least punters and placekickers try and tackle a guy a couple times before their 25th birthday any way.

    There has been exactly one hot female athlete in my life and she never won a big tournament.

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f5/d5/43/f5d54304c92d2452590292f548910307.jpg

    Replies: @Cortes

    The skill levels of goalies with the ball at their feet have been improving, spurred by changes to various rules, most notably the passback rule and encroachment in the penalty area from bye-kicks. Some, obviously have very fine skills and their signings command premium fees, such as the transfer of Allison, the Brazilian (guy), from Roma to Liverpool a couple of years ago – fee reported to be around £65 million.

    Here’s a glimpse of fancy footwork by iconic Colombian goalie Rene Higuita:

  293. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Matt Buckalew

    None of your high school cheerleaders has won a silver medal in Olympic figure skating. Sasha Cohen has.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/99/Sasha_Cohen_2009_SOI_Halifax_Spiral.jpg

    Replies: @HFR, @Truth

    Not only did Sasha Cohen win a silver medal at the Olympics, she also was on the podium at 3 World Championships. And then she got a degree from Columbia. Not so bad for a cheerleading reject.

    • Agree: Buzz Mohawk
  294. @Rosie
    @Jim Christian


    Way to defend your position vs. his, Rosie.
     
    He didn't state a position. He called me a "ditz" and told me to get back in the kitchen. He got the response he deserved.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  295. @Ben tillman
    @Rosie

    One objection to what you call Title IX is that it’s not a law. It’s made up by bureaucrats to mess with us. Enforcement is entirely who/whom.

    And the actual statute isn’t about sports.

    Replies: @Curle, @Paperback Writer

    You’re right, and this Executive Order isn’t a law either. But it has the force of law, is based on law, and can become the basis of more (bad) laws.

    • Agree: ben tillman
    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @Paperback Writer

    I've been doing more reading. An EO as the name implies has authority over the entire Executive Branch. Think of that. According to Rod Dreher this would encompass any school that accepts federal funds. Dreher isn't a lawyer though. If anyone can specify how an EO affects the law, I'd appreciate it.

    Replies: @anon, @Curle

    , @JerseyJeffersonian
    @Paperback Writer

    Paperback Writer, Ben Tillman,

    I think that the confusion here may originate in the fact that such rulemaking and enforcement activities as you are discussing fall under the sphere of Administrative Law, which is distinct from Statutory Law. It is not the same, not at all, and is the root of much mischief from the left, perhaps as much as judicial "legislation from the bench", or even more. Agencies formulate their own rules upon the basis of a legislative law and/or an executive order, and their enforcement can be quite forcefully pursued. I suspect that, to avoid that eventuality, institutions subject to these regulations often "go along to get along", regardless of the fairness of these rules, and like all bullies, once they have their victims backing up, they like to keep them backing up. Supposedly, there are appeals possible to the judicial system, but given the extent of leftist influence in the judiciary, good luck with that if the rules' intent seems to comport with general leftist doctrines and beliefs.

    See here for a brief explanation, and historical overview, particularly in the section on administrative law in common law countries. There is also an article restricted to the US for which a hot link is supplied.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrative_law

    My former boss at the university law library at which I was then employed expressed an interest in improving the online availability of administrative law materials through scanning from print sources, as they were poorly represented online as opposed to statutory law. But, of course, this deficiency provided an opportunity for specialist law services to work a revenue stream unserviceable through other generalist law firms; they instead kept a keen eye on publications such as the Federal Register and the Code of Federal Regulations to stay abreast of such developments in rulemaking by agencies.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Curle

    , @Curle
    @Paperback Writer

    A statute is a law. Administrative rules are also laws. Administrative guidelines are also laws. Judicial cases can involve binding legal opinions.

    You are confusing law, which roughly means some directive that can be enforced in front of a tribunal, with its most well known variant, statutes which are created by legislative bodies and can usually only be repealed by legislative bodies.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

  296. @Agathoklis
    Has anyone found a link between declining fertility and women's increasing participation in sports?

    Replies: @Bite Moi

    Agathoklis=====I would think that junk food fueled obesity is a bigger female fertility problem.

  297. @Clyde
    @Buffalo Joe


    to learn the real meaning of the word “fiancé”, and to learn to swim, ice skate and play lacrosse. I knew it was a dream with the lacrosse thing.
     
    There is always hope. We all know Jim Brown played lacrosse at Syracuse and excelled. Now that I think about it, a black dude playing lacrosse back then blew whitey's minds and got the white girls madly pursuing him.

    Jim Brown played lacrosse at Syracuse University. He started his lax career at a high school in New York called Manhasset High School. During his high school playing days, he earned 3 All-Star honors for midfield. At Syracuse, Jim Brown lettered in four sports including lacrosse and football.
     

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Clyde

    Clyde, Brown was very good in his day, tuck the stick close to his chest and barrel through to the goal. Today there are many tight end sized lax player weilding six foot defense poles. I don’t know how he would do today. love the game. Stay safe.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @Buffalo Joe

    Ha ha, I'm picturing that. God bless you, Joe.

  298. @Intelligent Dasein
    @Rosie

    I'm actually rather sad, and very sorry to all the girls in the land.

    I think it's time to begin gently telling our daughters that they won't be going to college.

    Replies: @Bostonvegas, @anonymous as usual

    Glad my three daughters got their scholarships before Logan and Wyatt decided they were girls all along due to misgendering by nazi doctors

  299. @jb
    @Peter Johnson

    But how often is this actually going to happen?

    That's the usual defense. Transwomen are pretty rare, they aren't all interested in sports, and transitioning does kind of mess them up physically (ya think?), so they aren't all going to be champions. An if occasionally some dude does come along and dominates some particular women's sport the media will just paper over it, the same way they've papered over dudes beating up women in mixed martial arts. Also, I get the impression that most of the women who participate in sports in college participate in team sports, like soccer, and in that case having a guy on your team is a plus for the other team members, not a negative. It's only in individual sports that the problem is really obvious.

    So it matters how often it happens. As long as it's rare the wokesters can get away with demanding that we all play pretend. If it happens a lot then that becomes more difficult.

    Replies: @photondancer

    You haven’t thought this through. Transgenders insist they don’t have to transition, they just have to say “I’m a woman” and we have to accept it. So that opens the way for any underachieving male athlete to say “I’m a woman, put me in the woman’s comp” and lo and behold he starts winning, nabbing the prize money, college scholarships etc. Teenage boys aren’t stupid, there have been cases of them doing exactly this and it will get worse as word spreads.

    • Replies: @jb
    @photondancer

    As I say, it matters how often it happens. For most men this would be a hugely embarrassing thing to do, and the vast majority will never do it. They might win prize money, but they would also win the contempt of their peers, and since sports is as much about status as money that would be a big deterrent. Neither you nor I can intuit the size of the small remainder that will be willing to do such a thing, and that's the quantity that's important. If it's small enough the wokesters continue to get away with it, but if it's too big they don't. We'll just have to wait and see.

    Replies: @Peter Johnson, @Peter Johnson, @photondancer

  300. Female (Upper) middleclass feminists were and are still the main enablers of the woke-craze. So if any female athletes object to it, you should go after said (upper) middle class feminists.

  301. @Kyle
    @Rosie

    The last time I was in an airport the university of Iowa girls field hockey team walked by me. The were all sub 5’5” and +150 lbs. They were all short, fat, snot nosed, and pimply faced. They all resembled 14 year olds even though I’m sure they must have been 18-21. There was no intensity or focus in their demeanor, it was just a giggling gaggle of plump juvenile females. Which is fine, but when you start reconciling that with the reality of what you’re seeing it starts to seem ridiculous. Their parents are paying tens of thousands of dollars for them to attend a large state school, and they’re flying around the country to play what’s essentially a children’s game. We’ve cut boys soccer & cross country for this? Something doesn’t seem quite right. You see impressive female athletes on TV, such as track runners or distance swimmers, so it’s jarring to see the reality of female athleticism up close.

    Replies: @dearieme, @Jack D, @Spud Boy, @Paperback Writer, @Truth

    I actually looked up the roster of the U of Iowa women’s field hockey team. Anyone who is interested can look it up themselves. They are all white girls with trim bodies, mostly with long hair, pretty to OK faces, like most of us.

    One of them is English, which I think interesting.

    I think Kyle is full of shit.

    • Replies: @Lurker
    @Paperback Writer


    One of them is English, which I think interesting.

     

    I just looked myself. In fact two are English and another is an Aussie. Then further investigation reveals two Dutch girls (sisters) and a Belgian girl.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

  302. @Dumbo
    Well, the idea of women's sports was ind of silly to begin with. With a few exceptions: figure skating, gymnastics (well, before it became a contest with drug-addled genetically modified mutant teens), perhaps beach volleyball, horse riding and a few others.

    Most other sport activities masculinize women's bodies, and are not that great to watch anyway. Female basketball in particular is grotesque. Swimming also seems to change women's bodies, they have strange shoulders and no breasts.

    In this sense, having transgender freaks competing is just the logical extension; why masculinize female bodies, why not just get a masculine body and say "it's a woman"? Problem solved.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Curle, @notsaying

    You are judging women’s sports on what you want to watch and how they change women’s bodies.

    Shouldn’t we judge them on what women want to play?

    I don’t watch any men’s sports regularly. Does that mean men’s sports should be eliminated? I would say no. I don’t see why biological males should be allowed to ruin women’s sports for them. I don’t understand why these guys who “win” in women’s sports feel they have accomplished anything. I was brought up to believe that without fairness, winning is less than nothing.

    Instituting a system that allows for legal cheating just makes a mockery of women’s sports.

    • Agree: Cortes
    • Thanks: Rosie
    • Replies: @anon
    @notsaying

    Instituting a system that allows for legal cheating just makes a mockery of women’s sports.

    You say that like it's a bad thing...

    , @Dumbo
    @notsaying


    Shouldn’t we judge them on what women want to play?
     
    What do women want to play? I don't know, but I think that more feminine women tend to prefer more feminine activities, and more masculine women tend to prefer more masculine activities.

    I think a bigger question is, do women watch women's sports?

    I don't see that women follow very much women's soccer, for instance.

    I think that there may be more men watching women's sports (although the reasons many times have little to do with the sport).

    As for the rest, I think we are in agreement, I don't think that "transgenders" should compete in women's sport. Heck, I don't think even actual hermaphrodites such as Caster Semenya should.

    Replies: @dfordoom

  303. @Anon7
    Can't we all just get along? Can't we drop competitive sports and just enjoy wedding dancing?

    Feast your eyes on these figures, lads; I don't think that is any argument about who the men are and who the women are here in the Caucasus.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua95fPR6HC8

    Note that not only is there no touching; there is no eye contact, either.

    Replies: @anon, @JMcG, @Known Fact

    That was bracing to see. Not to trivialize it at all, but it was very much like that Riverdance stuff that was popular 20 years ago. There’s nothing more beautiful than a beautiful girl. Great to see that there are still people lime that in the world. Thank you!

  304. @Rosie
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)


    I don’t know when or if you were a coed, but when I was in college I had a girl who had literally never rowed before any level but joined the team because practically anyone could get on the women’s rowing team
     
    There's always some bizarre anecdote or another here at Unz. Well, anecdotes are like a$$holes. Everyone has them. I have a cousin who got a full athletic scholarship, very well-earned, after ears of hard work. She is a very well-rounded athlete who could excel at pretty much anything, but ultimately chose a sport that was less competitive so she could get that scholarship.

    Could it be that perhaps accepting the fact that as a general principle men have a more broad and more intense interest in competitive athletics is a place to start when determining where opportunities and funding should be directed? Is this such an outrageous idea to you?
     
    I'm not entirely convinced that's true, though it may well be, but then even if it is true, I'm not sure that really helps your case. If it's true that half the student body isn't particularly interested, that just raises the question of whether disproportionate resources are devoted to ports that women don't care for, or even nonathletic extracurriculars like band, theater, or dance.

    Men's interests and preferences don't determine everything anymore. That you believe they should reflects your own unwarranted sense of entitlement that the world revolve around men. Apart from that, I'm not at all sure you'd like the results of a culture that sees vigorous athletic activities as a primarily masculine pursuit.

    http://www.videtteonline.com/sports/columns/youth-sports-can-help-prevent-child-obesity/article_c3bb73fd-e149-584d-9902-a4f56fe26af4.html

    https://s3.amazonaws.com/lowres.cartoonstock.com/animals-cat-feline-animal-map_of_universe-self_centered-bwhn2092_low.jpg

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Rosie, I admire your pluck. Stick with your point of view, too many afraid to express their real feelings. However, maybe dial back a bit, you’ve been compared to Tiny Duck.

  305. @Anonymous
    @Jack D

    East Germans took pride in being a spartan utilitarian society so they wouldn't have made luxury cars even if they could. That was for the decadent westerners.

    The reason there are always shortages of basic essentials in command economies is that politicians want to be popular, so set artificially low prices for these things, ensuring that they wind up on the black market instead of in the official stores.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Desiderius

    Luxury cars no but they surely would have made better cars than the Trabant if they had the resources – the Soviets who were just as doctrinaire made the Lada which was much closer to a “real” (if somewhat obsolete) car, having a steel body and a 4 cylinder water cooled automotive engine rather than a cardboard body and a 2 cyl. 2 stroke air cooled motorcycle motor.

    There were many reasons for the constant shortages in command economies but underpricing (thus causing demand to exceed supply) was certainly one of them and ONE (but not the only) cause of underpricing was fear of popular backlash if prices were raised. The Novocherkassk massacre of 1962 began when workers demonstrated against an increase in dairy and meat prices that had been recommended by economists because the Soviet meat prices were below the cost of production, thus giving collective farms no incentive to produce meat and ensuring constant shortages. But there was no trust or understanding on the part of the Soviet public that increases in meat prices would lead to more supply.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novocherkassk_massacre

    I recommend the book “Red Plenty” as a fun and educational read. It is a novel but it adheres closely to historical fact. The feat is made even more impressive by the fact that the author does not speak Russian and worked entirely from translated material.

    • Replies: @Fox
    @Jack D

    The Lada was a Fiat built in a plant that was bought from and built by Italians in Russia and turned over as a functioning car manufacture into Russian hands. The Fiat was renamed 'Lada'. The Trabant was, as far as I know, the only car that was actually conceived of, developed and built in the Eastern block. The Moscwitch was an Opel (model Kadett) built in Russia under this new name. The Russians transported the whole industrial works and technical know-how from Germany after the war when they dismantled numerous industrial plants in Germany bolt by bolt to be rebuilt bolt by bolt in the SU.
    I don't know whether there was a Soviet (pre-Eastern block) car. If there had been, it would seem to have had shortcomings serious enough to be rather replaced by a "forcibly imported" foreign model.

    Replies: @Jack D, @petit bourgeois

  306. uh no. It isn’t even sharing. Men who want to play sports outnumber women who do by at least 10 to 1. So, a fair “share” would be to fund women’s sports at somewhere around 10% of the amount spent on men’s.

    This is a value judgment on your part. First of all, I doubt the difference is that large, but even if it is, I reject your premise that women’s interest in sports is fixed and unchangeable, regardless of cultural expectations.

    There is no particular reason why current interest level should determine the allocation of resources. Does women’s health matter? If so, does it matter as much as men’s health?

    If so, encouraging women’s athletics is the right thing to do regardless of whether you think it’s “fair.” Fairness is an important value. It is not the only value.

    All I hear about is what fantasies we all are and how we’re going to bring down the health care system with our fatness. Now, I hear a bunch of whining about policies that encourage women’s athleticism.

    (Mr. Unz, lift the damned 3-comments-per-hour-rule! I am massively outnumbered here. I’m ok with that, but I ought to have the ability to respond when I get 20 hostile replies to a comment.)

    • Replies: @anon
    @Rosie

    https://media.giphy.com/media/MctANWFymbUJCmYtb0/giphy.gif

  307. @Intelligent Dasein
    @Rosie

    I'm actually rather sad, and very sorry to all the girls in the land.

    I think it's time to begin gently telling our daughters that they won't be going to college.

    Replies: @Bostonvegas, @anonymous as usual

    To be fair you can go to college and NOT PARTICIPATE IN COLLEGE SPORTS. Live on campus or live off campus, you can play organized sports with the locals.

    The townie sports are much more fun, and without the elitist garbage.

  308. Anon[237] • Disclaimer says:

    Now people, you need to stop being bigoted about this. When all the real women are forced out of women’s sports, it’ll just be trannies competing against trannies. Won’t that be great?

    It’ll become Special Olympics II!

    I think ancient Romans like Caligula would have enjoyed watching tranny sports–if he could have executed the losers afterward or made the winner have sex with a horse. Come to think of it, I think trannies would have liked this also, considering how often they threaten to commit suicide and prefer freakish sex.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anon


    Now people, you need to stop being bigoted about this. When all the real women are forced out of women’s sports, it’ll just be trannies competing against trannies. Won’t that be great?
     
    Yes.
  309. @notsaying
    @Dumbo

    You are judging women's sports on what you want to watch and how they change women's bodies.

    Shouldn't we judge them on what women want to play?

    I don't watch any men's sports regularly. Does that mean men's sports should be eliminated? I would say no. I don't see why biological males should be allowed to ruin women's sports for them. I don't understand why these guys who "win" in women's sports feel they have accomplished anything. I was brought up to believe that without fairness, winning is less than nothing.

    Instituting a system that allows for legal cheating just makes a mockery of women's sports.

    Replies: @anon, @Dumbo

    Instituting a system that allows for legal cheating just makes a mockery of women’s sports.

    You say that like it’s a bad thing…

  310. @Paperback Writer
    @Rosie

    It's true, Rosie.


    As Title IX passes through its 33rd year of existence it is important to examine the other side of the equal opportunity argument that the legislation is supposed to promote. During this time frame in which strides have been made in women’s athletics, men’s athletic programs have generally suffered. More than 400 men’s athletic teams have been eliminated as a result of Universities needing to become NCAA compliant. The sports worst hit have been low revenue Olympic sports such as wrestling, swimming and track and field. This is a disturbing trend that was never intended when Title IX was introduced.

    Clearly this is grossly unfair to males as more males are interested in competing in collegiate sports than women.
     
    https://www.athleticscholarships.net/title-ix-college-athletics-9.htm

    To answer your question, I don't know. But what happened was totally wrong. This EO is also wrong, but my feeling is, it's not yet my fight. Let women fight this one on their own.

    Replies: @Rosie

    To answer your question, I don’t know. But what happened was totally wrong. This EO is also wrong, but my feeling is, it’s not yet my fight. Let women fight this one on their own.

    Thanks for not being a petty, spiteful jerk.

    Anyway, the funny thing is that college costs have gone through the roof since then. Are the colleges really so hard up for cash they can’t swing men’s wrestling and girl’s lacrosse? I seriously doubt it. They’re not cutting these programs because of Title 9. They’re doing it because of executive greed.

    People who hate women will blame women first. They will ignore all the makework jobs for black rioters, the out-of-control executive salaries, and all manner of wasteful spending while they (pretend to) take universities’ claims of poverty at face value. Moreover, I think it’s deliberate, malicious scapegoating. Misogynists may be stupid, but they’re not that stupid.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @Rosie


    Thanks for not being a petty, spiteful jerk.

     

    You're welcome, Rosie.

    You really know how to make allies, I gotta say.

    I wrote "yet" - you missed that. Women will have to learn a few facts before guys will step in and sort things out.
  311. @Getaclue
    @photondancer

    Pritzker Family of Billionaires out of Chicago basically hoisted it on the USA at every level by spending hundreds of millions to do it. They are also mostly responsible for installing Obama -- one of them is a Tranny "Jennifer" but they all are in on it as they are invested in Medical and stand to make a killing off it I read....This gives you an idea of the Billionaires pushing this on children:

    https://thefederalist.com/2018/02/20/rich-white-men-institutionalizing-transgender-ideology/

    https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2020/07/27/how-lgbt-nonprofits-and-their-billionaire-patrons-are-reshaping-the-world/

    Replies: @photondancer

    Thanks for the links. Several people have mentioned Pritzker so I’ll look into it.

  312. @Rosie
    It's no surprise that the very first comment here is a Nanna Nanna boo boo from some juvenile little manosphere jackass.

    But on a more substantive note, what exactly is the objection to Title IX?

    EDIT, not just the first one, but the second one, too.

    How many comments before a normal guy chimes in? Or is it just male chauvinist piglets all the way down?

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Buzz Mohawk, @Intelligent Dasein, @Guy De Champlagne, @Kyle, @Kyle, @Mike Tre, @Neoconned, @Anonymous, @Ben tillman, @Not Only Wrathful, @S. Anonyia, @Old and Grumpy, @Mr. Anon, @TWS, @Bel Riose, @SunBakedSuburb, @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle, @Reg Cæsar, @Rob, @jon, @TruthHammer, @donut, @Unladen Swallow, @Chrisnonymous, @Paperback Writer

    You are a humaniform, bereft of individuality or self expressive awareness. All your thought are own.

  313. @Jack D
    @Liza

    The Jews have been circumcising their male infants for at least 3,000 years and it never turned them trannie before.

    Replies: @Jack Armstrong, @Jiminy

    Milton Berle.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Jack Armstrong



    The Jews have been circumcising their male infants for at least 3,000 years and it never turned them trannie before.
     
    Milton Berle.
     
    Uncle Miltie was transvestite, not "transgender". You should read some of the stories in his adopted son's memoir.

    Einstein's brain was brined for science, and Berle could have done something similar.

  314. I don’t understand how any right-winger can be against this. The end of Feminism.

  315. @notsaying
    @Dumbo

    You are judging women's sports on what you want to watch and how they change women's bodies.

    Shouldn't we judge them on what women want to play?

    I don't watch any men's sports regularly. Does that mean men's sports should be eliminated? I would say no. I don't see why biological males should be allowed to ruin women's sports for them. I don't understand why these guys who "win" in women's sports feel they have accomplished anything. I was brought up to believe that without fairness, winning is less than nothing.

    Instituting a system that allows for legal cheating just makes a mockery of women's sports.

    Replies: @anon, @Dumbo

    Shouldn’t we judge them on what women want to play?

    What do women want to play? I don’t know, but I think that more feminine women tend to prefer more feminine activities, and more masculine women tend to prefer more masculine activities.

    I think a bigger question is, do women watch women’s sports?

    I don’t see that women follow very much women’s soccer, for instance.

    I think that there may be more men watching women’s sports (although the reasons many times have little to do with the sport).

    As for the rest, I think we are in agreement, I don’t think that “transgenders” should compete in women’s sport. Heck, I don’t think even actual hermaphrodites such as Caster Semenya should.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @Dumbo


    I think a bigger question is, do women watch women’s sports?
     
    Or rather, do non-lesbian women watch women’s sports?

    In Australia women's cricket seems to be entirely a lesbian thing.

    Replies: @sb

  316. @anon
    @Liza

    Any discussion of circumcision in the US that does not include the name John Harvey Kellogg is grossly uninformed. He didn't just invent corn flakes, and he had an obsession about masturbation. Neither has anything to do with mentally disturbed men in dresses.

    You don't know much. Learn more then get back to us.

    Replies: @Liza

    Any discussion of circumcision in the US that does not include the name John Harvey Kellogg is grossly uninformed. He didn’t just invent corn flakes, and he had an obsession about masturbation. Neither has anything to do with mentally disturbed men in dresses.

    You don’t know much. Learn more then get back to us.

    Oh, I wasn’t pretending to give a complete history of nonjewish cirn’n. There’s plenty of that all over the interwebz. Just saying (I guess not clearly) that folks seem to think that slicing genitals is somehow a good idea for either prevention (of countless conditions in the case of infant circ) OR a cure for mild mental disturbance (in the case of turning boys into girls).

    About JH Kellogg, I was familiar with his crazy ideas 25 years ago when my son was born. That’s all I needed to know.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Liza


    About JH Kellogg, I was familiar with his crazy ideas 25 years ago when my son was born. That’s all I needed to know.
     
    The Jews bear more responsibility for contemporary infant mutilation practices than Kellogg does.
  317. @Do You Even Lift
    @Achmed E. Newman

    OT: Achmed, I find most of your comments amusing, so I checked out your website and liked it, lots of clever and funny stuff, but there was one major problem: Your post about the more-than-ample derriere attached to the woman on the treadmill at your gym had an interior photo taken at Orange Theory. Please tell me that this is just some stock photo that you grabbed off the net, and you aren't actually a member there. For iSteve readers unfamiliar with the world of physical fitness (Which I would guess is around 90%, because snarkiness inversely correlates with strength and vigor. If there ever is a real-world iSteve get-together, it will be BYOR. Bring Your Own Rascal), Orange Theory is a feminized, foo-foo, suburban Soccer Mom "gym" that is all cardio, no weights. Oh wait, they do have some 5-pound dumbells that you can attempt to curl while you text your lunch order to the Whole Foods deli. Orange Theory makes Planet Fitness look like Gold's.

    I'll check back at your site in a couple days, if you can post a pic of yourself at a real gym, bench pressing your bodyweight for reps (Or squatting 1.5 x bodyweight), I'll become a regular reader.
    And btw, my own physical-to-mental-strength comparison would be something like this: (Read it in a Russian accent) "Strong like bull, smart like tractor!"

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Trinity

    Thanks for the comment, Mr. Lift.

    a) Yeah, that was a file photo. In fact, I even had some wording to that effect due to this photo didn’t represent well the little gym I was in, but you can’t be too picky with “gym people with faces masks”. I think I’ve heard of these Orange Theory gyms or maybe just passed one by on the road.

    b) As for your handle, I don’t lift, in general. I have bench-pressed over 2 x my body weight when I was way younger, and I’m sure I could lift my body weight on a machine now. However, with free weights, I’m not so sure I could do it right away I have not done squats ever, so I don’t know about that.

    c) I go to the gym for Cardio, and occasional other bar-bell exercises, that’s all

    d) There’s no way I want to put pictures and other ID info. on the site.

    That means you’ll just have to be an irregular reader of Peak Stupidity. If you get tired of being irregular you can always go for a Morning Constitutional. “Irregular”, get it? ;-}

    • Replies: @Do You Even Lift
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I knew that was a file photo, I was just pulling your leg. I just felt like going on a rant about Orange Theory, and cardio in general, and that picture triggered me. Sorry I had to use you as my foil. What's my problem with Orange Theory? There's one in the shopping center near my house, along with a Fit Pantry, Starbucks, Trader Joe's, upscale nail salon, and various other foo-foo type establishments. It's a liberal suburban soccer mom mecca. They get out of their de rigueur Lexus SUVs and flit about in their tight, oh-so-tight yoga pants. It's enough to drive a man crazy with...class envy? Unrequited lust?
    Sometimes just for fun I drive through that shopping center in my 4x4 pickup (Which is festooned with the obligatory Trump stickers, Confederate flag, and gun rack in the rear window) while belching clouds of thick, acrid diesel exhaust. (The truck, not me).

    Re the weights vs. cardio thing, I'm not some jacked-up, roid-raging Gymbro, I'm just an old guy trying to maintain a little muscle mass and mobility as I ease into senior citizenhood. And I don't think a Rascal would look good in the back of my redneck-themed pickup. I used to do a lot of cardio during my military career, but that was only so I could pass the annual Air Force fitness test, which emphasizes aerobic fitness and a small waistline over physical strength. (And we wonder why they call us the sissy service). The Army and Marines have a much more well-rounded fitness test, because they have to actually engage in strenuous physical activity. Dunno about the Navy, but my guess is that as long as they can bend over far enough, they're OK. (Just kidding, my salty, seagoing brothers-in-arms! Besides, just like "prison rules", "It ain't gay if you're underway!").

    Now that I'm retired, I can quit running and get back to slingin' iron. The physical and mental benefits of lifting weights are incredible. More energy, better sleep, higher self-confidence, increased libido. The increased libidio comes in handy down at the Senior Center, the gals there really dig a fit 60-year-old guy wearing a tight tank top with big tufts of chest and armpit hair sticking out. And a pair of plaid Bermuda shorts and sandals-with-socks to complete the ensemble. But the main reason I lift weights is to piss off liberals. They hate physical strength, they think it correlates to conservatism, racism, sexism, and general all-around redneckery. (Actually they're right, but don't tell 'em that!).
    Here's another funny website I just discovered, with a couple of satirical articles on this subject.
    (But like I just said, it's not really satire):

    https://npcdaily.com/2505/studies-show-physical-fitness-linked-to-conservatism-and-bigotry/

    https://npcdaily.com/1335/why-striving-to-be-fit-and-healthy-is-actually-hateful-ableist-and-intolerant/

    I've got your website bookmarked, but I don't know if I can be a "regular" reader, because I'm on the Carnivore Diet, which has zero fiber. The best cure for irregularity is a heaping teaspoon of Metamucil in an 8-ounce glass of liberal tears.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  318. @Jake
    @Altai

    According to Trannie faith today, you are what you assert sexually, even if you never get a shingle hormone shot, much less a surgery. If that is upheld, then a bunch of enterprising guys not good enough for tennis, golf, lacrosse, soccer etc scholarships should proclaim themselves women and sue if they do not get scholarships.

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @photondancer, @Guy Cabellero

    I’m waiting for some NCAA women’s coach to convince a bunch of NAIA level players to assert that they’re women, and then beat UConn by 60 in the finals.

  319. @photondancer
    Of all the problems facing the USA right now, Biden has consistently prioritised the transgender agenda. I *really* want to know who is behind it. They are extraordinarily good at getting their way.

    Replies: @unit472, @Thoughts, @Mike Tre, @Dumbo, @Walsh2, @peterike, @Michelle, @Getaclue, @Thea, @BenKenobi, @Buffalo Joe, @Jeff, @Desiderius, @Desiderius, @Anon, @Cornbeef, @Dennis Dale, @CCZ

    Jon Stryker, you mean?

  320. @Dumbo
    @unit472


    Quite! There is no political advantage to promoting ‘transgenderism’. It is a minority within a minority.
     
    I think most people don't understand how important transgenderism is to the elites, and why. The question is not about "political advantage". Do you think they care about that? The "gay marriage" issue also had little "political advantage" as gays are also a small minority (although, they used the support of women to obtain it, because most women like gays and find them cuddly and, contrary to beta male and incels, they don't make passes at them).

    No, transgenderism and the blurring of the sexes is fundamental to them. Chaos and the destruction of the family are their goals. Demonic inversion is their credo. "Transgender children" is the next step, Biden already said that "8-year old children should be able to choose".

    This what we are up against, demonic androgynes from Hell:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Pritzker

    Replies: @dfordoom, @JR Ewing

    No, transgenderism and the blurring of the sexes is fundamental to them. Chaos and the destruction of the family are their goals. Demonic inversion is their credo.

    I don’t think there’s anything demonic, or fundamental, about it. Transgenderism is just a very useful stick with which to beat conservative Christians and social conservatives in general. It’s a way to back conservative Christians into a corner in the hope that they’ll react and then there’ll be an excuse to give them another kicking.

    The Religious Right backed the Republican Party aggressively back in the 80s and 90s. Now it’s pay-back time.

    It’s also a useful stick with which to beat the Deplorables.

    I don’t think the elites give a damn about the trannies, but they do care very much about putting the boot into conservative Christians and Deplorables.

    Plus it’s a great way to distract attention away from economic issues.

    Joe Biden doesn’t want people focusing on things like the debt does he?

    There are a few True Believer zealots among the elites but I really don’t think most elites care about anything apart from maintaining and increasing their wealth and their power. They’ll use any tools at all in order to do that.

    • Replies: @photondancer
    @dfordoom

    "Plus it’s a great way to distract attention away from economic issues."

    Pretty much describes every political issue for the last 10 years.

    , @Dumbo
    @dfordoom

    I think you're not paying attention.

    So you think that people like "Jennifer" Pritzker or "Rachel" Levine dress like (ugly) women because "it’s a great way to distract attention away from economic issues"?

    No, it's really what they believe. And there is a much larger amount of trannies, transgenders or androgynes (feminine men, masculine women) among the elite (politicians, celebrities) than among the general population. Not all completely open or admitted.

    They do it, and they promote it, because they really believe in it. And they will promote it more and more, until it crushes people's souls, forcing them to deny truth and say 2+2=5.

    "It's the civil rights issue of our time", said Biden. Yes, indeed.

    Replies: @Rosie, @dfordoom

  321. It seems this would be something for the Supreme Court.

    Those involved with women’s sports are fools if they don’t fight this and other things legally. Obviously you need to be one someone with standing.

    I suggest everyone read “The Power of the Powerless” by (successful) Communist dissident Vaclav Havel.

    https://www.nonviolent-conflict.org/wp-content/uploads/1979/01/the-power-of-the-powerless.pdf

    Folks may think it is pointless to fight things with the law but as Vaclav Havel explains, even in a rigged system, it matters tremendously. This isn’t a traditional dictatorship we find ourselves in: it is bureaucratic dictatorship where nobody involved wants to take responsibility for being a dictator. Everyone involved wants to see themselves as simply following the rules.

    The left relies on the law heavily for legitimacy. They are of course completely incoherent but they like to see themselves as perfectly totally lawful and they never want to see themselves as anything but orderly. Getting called out legally and having to answer for their incoherence completely spoils their party.

    It would be a joy to argue such a case! Hour after hour of comparing men’s and women’s sports records, race times, weightlifting totals, highlighting the enormous athletic differences between men and women, while acting all serious about it. The men’s bench press record is 770 pounds while the women’s record is around 450 pounds. Women basketball players have a vertical leap a foot less than their male counterparts.

    Whatever the decision, it would be easy to expose the farce, if anyone wants to.

    I suspect here in the popcorn gallery everyone just wants to see Usain Bolt put on pink sneakers and win everything.

    • Replies: @DanHessinMD
    @DanHessinMD

    When the left does these absurd things, aren't they begging to be dragged around in court? I think most of them aren't even used to facing coherent disagreement.

    Folks like sports stats and the difference between men and women in athletic measures is really huge. All the data junkies could just go on and on just poring over eye popping numbers.

    Easiest case in the world.

    Exposing the total farce of the left would be the big victory in itself. The left does not want to be considered clowns, although clowns they are. Look what Mister No Shirt Buffalo Horns elicited. Now imagine he exposed them as clowns legally, in a court of law?

  322. @Paperback Writer
    @Kyle

    I actually looked up the roster of the U of Iowa women's field hockey team. Anyone who is interested can look it up themselves. They are all white girls with trim bodies, mostly with long hair, pretty to OK faces, like most of us.

    One of them is English, which I think interesting.

    I think Kyle is full of shit.

    Replies: @Lurker

    One of them is English, which I think interesting.

    I just looked myself. In fact two are English and another is an Aussie. Then further investigation reveals two Dutch girls (sisters) and a Belgian girl.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @Lurker

    OK. I stopped after the English girl.

    All the girls have long hair and none of them look the way bitter incel Kyle described.

  323. So . . . drug testing is out too I guess?

  324. @DanHessinMD
    It seems this would be something for the Supreme Court.

    Those involved with women's sports are fools if they don't fight this and other things legally. Obviously you need to be one someone with standing.

    I suggest everyone read "The Power of the Powerless" by (successful) Communist dissident Vaclav Havel.

    https://www.nonviolent-conflict.org/wp-content/uploads/1979/01/the-power-of-the-powerless.pdf

    Folks may think it is pointless to fight things with the law but as Vaclav Havel explains, even in a rigged system, it matters tremendously. This isn't a traditional dictatorship we find ourselves in: it is bureaucratic dictatorship where nobody involved wants to take responsibility for being a dictator. Everyone involved wants to see themselves as simply following the rules.

    The left relies on the law heavily for legitimacy. They are of course completely incoherent but they like to see themselves as perfectly totally lawful and they never want to see themselves as anything but orderly. Getting called out legally and having to answer for their incoherence completely spoils their party.

    It would be a joy to argue such a case! Hour after hour of comparing men's and women's sports records, race times, weightlifting totals, highlighting the enormous athletic differences between men and women, while acting all serious about it. The men's bench press record is 770 pounds while the women's record is around 450 pounds. Women basketball players have a vertical leap a foot less than their male counterparts.

    Whatever the decision, it would be easy to expose the farce, if anyone wants to.

    I suspect here in the popcorn gallery everyone just wants to see Usain Bolt put on pink sneakers and win everything.

    Replies: @DanHessinMD

    When the left does these absurd things, aren’t they begging to be dragged around in court? I think most of them aren’t even used to facing coherent disagreement.

    Folks like sports stats and the difference between men and women in athletic measures is really huge. All the data junkies could just go on and on just poring over eye popping numbers.

    Easiest case in the world.

    Exposing the total farce of the left would be the big victory in itself. The left does not want to be considered clowns, although clowns they are. Look what Mister No Shirt Buffalo Horns elicited. Now imagine he exposed them as clowns legally, in a court of law?

  325. @Rosie
    It's no surprise that the very first comment here is a Nanna Nanna boo boo from some juvenile little manosphere jackass.

    But on a more substantive note, what exactly is the objection to Title IX?

    EDIT, not just the first one, but the second one, too.

    How many comments before a normal guy chimes in? Or is it just male chauvinist piglets all the way down?

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Buzz Mohawk, @Intelligent Dasein, @Guy De Champlagne, @Kyle, @Kyle, @Mike Tre, @Neoconned, @Anonymous, @Ben tillman, @Not Only Wrathful, @S. Anonyia, @Old and Grumpy, @Mr. Anon, @TWS, @Bel Riose, @SunBakedSuburb, @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle, @Reg Cæsar, @Rob, @jon, @TruthHammer, @donut, @Unladen Swallow, @Chrisnonymous, @Paperback Writer

    • LOL: nokangaroos
  326. We have a solution in Australia; let them beat up the second grade women players; https://www.williamofockham.com/2021/01/16/kick-long-smash-packs/

  327. @Anon
    Now people, you need to stop being bigoted about this. When all the real women are forced out of women's sports, it'll just be trannies competing against trannies. Won't that be great?

    It'll become Special Olympics II!

    I think ancient Romans like Caligula would have enjoyed watching tranny sports--if he could have executed the losers afterward or made the winner have sex with a horse. Come to think of it, I think trannies would have liked this also, considering how often they threaten to commit suicide and prefer freakish sex.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Now people, you need to stop being bigoted about this. When all the real women are forced out of women’s sports, it’ll just be trannies competing against trannies. Won’t that be great?

    Yes.

  328. @RichardTaylor
    The problem is all these discussions are becoming boring. The Covid-Lockdown has gone on almost a year and made life miserable. It facilitated the Biden election and Dem takeover of all three branches of government too.

    So what are we talking about? It's pretty much all over for a while. The Left (or Neo-Liberals) will get what they want. Critiquing the Establishment is an exercise in time-wasting.

    Replies: @Known Fact

    It’s pretty much all over for a while.

    Or as I heard it put, “They’ve ruined everything, everywhere, for everybody.”

    • Agree: RichardTaylor
  329. Life imitates art. In this case, the new Bidumb administration imitates the movie “Idiocracy”.

  330. The true cost of men’s football, at State U, is not just XY-women’s wrestling. The actual number is closer to the entire cost of the state university.

    That’s right.

    That is because without football, popular political support for the university would wane. The legislature would respond by eliminating 90% of the departments (starting with the X Studies programs so popular with jocks).

    [MORE]

    The Professor of Football, at State U, is typically the highest paid, public employee in the state.

    In fairness to him, and his high six-figure assistants, they’re typically the only faculty who actually teach and, moreover, get paid for results.

    (The top whatever number of highly paids is still dominated by those quack, clinical profsters of medicine.)

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Abolish_public_education


    That is because without football, popular political support for the university would wane. The legislature would respond by eliminating 90% of the departments (starting with the X Studies programs so popular with jocks).
     
    I suspect there's a lot of truth in that. What does the average non-college grad get out of his state's state universities? Not much, ultimately - just the chance to root for the "home team".

    The Professor of Football, at State U, is typically the highest paid, public employee in the state.

    In fairness to him, and his high six-figure assistants, they’re typically the only faculty who actually teach and, moreover, get paid for results.
     
    And can be fired at will.

    If what you say is true this would be a good way of attacking universities, which action should be a part of any conservative populist movement. They are centers of power and influence and they belong to the enemy. I have long espoused the motto "abolish tenure". Abolish College Football would be a good compliment to that.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  331. @Anonymous
    @Jack D

    East Germans took pride in being a spartan utilitarian society so they wouldn't have made luxury cars even if they could. That was for the decadent westerners.

    The reason there are always shortages of basic essentials in command economies is that politicians want to be popular, so set artificially low prices for these things, ensuring that they wind up on the black market instead of in the official stores.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Desiderius

    Lol.

    When I was in East Berlin just before the wall came down the whole place was literally falling apart. In another ten years it would have been Cuba. The WWII vet older relative I was staying with in BRD had just been over to the DDR for the first time recently and was absolutely stunned. “Alles Kaput!” is all he kept saying. My UK professors were still trying to argue at the time that the DDR was, if not the superior model at least competitive enough that the Hungarian/Yugoslavian(!) “third way” was preferable to Western capitalism.

    All a house built on clouds.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Desiderius

    I have a relative, a retired auto engineer, who spent his career working for one of the big European car makers. He told me that back in the 1970s (i.e. when lots of people still thought communism was a serious competitor to capitalism) he and a group of his fellow engineers visited Berlin, both sides, first the West then the East.

    When they crossed from West Berlin--with its Mercs and BMWs--to East Berlin--and saw their first Trabi putt-putting down the mostly deserted road--the entire tour bus burst into laughter, much to the indignation of their young Pioneer tour guide.

    My relative said that--to him and his fellow auto engineers--this was decisive proof of the inferiority of communism to capitalism.

    (Another thing he said, was that away from the big main roads, which were well maintained, East Berlin was largely still a ruin--decades after the end of the war. He speculated that this neglect was deliberate: It was intended by the authorities as a permanent reminder to Berliners of the harm the Anglo-Americans had done to them.)

    Replies: @Jack D

  332. @Clyde
    These girls and women don't want a guy in their locker room and showers.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Lot, @guest007, @Forbes, @Servant of Gla'aki, @Desiderius, @Bite Moi, @Bartleby the Scrivner, @Truth

    The genetic females involved in the affected sports can stop the insanity in just a few events.
    Refuse to compete.
    NCAA makes money off of sports.
    And more importantly, the psychologically damaged males will be the focus of ire.
    If no one shows up for an event, does he event exist?

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Bartleby the Scrivner


    The genetic females involved in the affected sports can stop the insanity in just a few events.
     
    In other words, tell them "We prefer not to." ;)

    Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian

  333. @Jonathan Mason
    @Rosie

    Maybe athletic scholarships should be abolished altogether, and all college sports should be self financing or paid for by the participants where there is no revenue source.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @stillCARealist, @Buffalo Joe, @MBlanc46

    It’s rare that I agree with Jonathan Mason, but, yes, scholarships for academic achievement only.

    • Agree: HFR, Achmed E. Newman
  334. @Rosie
    It's no surprise that the very first comment here is a Nanna Nanna boo boo from some juvenile little manosphere jackass.

    But on a more substantive note, what exactly is the objection to Title IX?

    EDIT, not just the first one, but the second one, too.

    How many comments before a normal guy chimes in? Or is it just male chauvinist piglets all the way down?

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Buzz Mohawk, @Intelligent Dasein, @Guy De Champlagne, @Kyle, @Kyle, @Mike Tre, @Neoconned, @Anonymous, @Ben tillman, @Not Only Wrathful, @S. Anonyia, @Old and Grumpy, @Mr. Anon, @TWS, @Bel Riose, @SunBakedSuburb, @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle, @Reg Cæsar, @Rob, @jon, @TruthHammer, @donut, @Unladen Swallow, @Chrisnonymous, @Paperback Writer

    The objection to Title IX is that it is being used to gut a bunch of men’s sports in favor of women’s sports, since most sports don’t make money at the collegiate level outside of football and men’s basketball. Those two subsidize all the rest of them, but women aren’t as interested in sports as men are, so more men’s sports have to be shelved to achieve equal participation rates between men and women, even if the unpopular men’s sports are still more popular than female sports that are being kept. This is based on the dubious assertion that men and women find collegiate sports equally interesting.

    A lot of these men’s sports at smaller universities produce a lot of Olympic athletes ( or rather they did ) in sports like gymnastics and swimming have now been abolished in favor female team sports like field hockey which by definition is not going to produce a lot of Olympians from one university ( Since there is only one national team attending the Olympics ). A lot of the female students getting athletic scholarship aren’t serious about the sports anyway, but they take the scholarship for obvious reasons and a lot of men who could have a career in sports beyond college are left out in the cold because their sport isn’t football or basketball.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Unladen Swallow

    As I explained in another comment, if University administrations are cutting men's sports on the grounds that they can't afford both, that’s not women's fault.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/carolinesimon/2017/09/05/bureaucrats-and-buildings-the-case-for-why-college-is-so-expensive/?sh=1e60a768456a


    This is based on the dubious assertion that men and women find collegiate sports equally interesting.
     
    Again, I don’t think that is a necessary premise for the view that women's sports should get equal funding. It is more than sufficient to point out that athletics is as important and beneficial for women as it is for men. Really, this is a ridiculous conversation for supposed right-wingers to even be having. Physical fitness has always been considered important on the Right, for women (future mothers) as well as men.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/80/Olympics_in_Berlin_1936.jpg

    A lot of the female students getting athletic scholarship aren’t serious about the sports anyway
     
    I don't buy that and haven't seen evidence for it. I have a woman in my family who got an athletic scholarship after working her a$$ off for it. I'm not going to say that's the end of the matter, but I'm not going to take your word for it either.

    Replies: @anon, @Anonymous, @Rosie

  335. @martin_2
    Surely allowing men to participate in women's sports is only an American thing and it won't affect events such as Wimbledon or the women's World Soccer Cup or the Olympics, since other nations will have a say and I dare say 99% will laugh at the idea..

    Replies: @photondancer, @dfordoom

    Last I heard the IOC won’t stop a man competing in a woman’s event as long as he can get his testosterone levels down. Doesn’t matter that he may already have developed superior height and strength before he starts playing with his hormones. As for Wimbledon, the UK is just as woke as the USA so it is only a matter of time before some man tries it.

    A lot of posters here and elsewhere blame the success of the transgender movement on Big Pharma and I don’t doubt the medico-industrial complex is delighted to have this source of funds and guinea pigs, but it’s also a big covert backlash against women’s rights by people who want to deny they’re doing that.

    • Agree: notsaying
  336. @Rosie

    uh no. It isn’t even sharing. Men who want to play sports outnumber women who do by at least 10 to 1. So, a fair “share” would be to fund women’s sports at somewhere around 10% of the amount spent on men’s.
     
    This is a value judgment on your part. First of all, I doubt the difference is that large, but even if it is, I reject your premise that women's interest in sports is fixed and unchangeable, regardless of cultural expectations.

    There is no particular reason why current interest level should determine the allocation of resources. Does women's health matter? If so, does it matter as much as men's health?

    If so, encouraging women's athletics is the right thing to do regardless of whether you think it's "fair." Fairness is an important value. It is not the only value.

    All I hear about is what fantasies we all are and how we're going to bring down the health care system with our fatness. Now, I hear a bunch of whining about policies that encourage women's athleticism.

    (Mr. Unz, lift the damned 3-comments-per-hour-rule! I am massively outnumbered here. I'm ok with that, but I ought to have the ability to respond when I get 20 hostile replies to a comment.)

    Replies: @anon

    • Agree: Clyde
  337. @Jack D
    @Rosie

    Maybe the solution is to get government out of the business of micro-regulating every single aspect of our lives and let individual colleges and sports groups, etc. make their own decisions as to who they want on their teams and by what rules their sport should be governed, because they know more about their sport than the government does?

    Central government control of sports and sports spending doesn't work any better than central government control of the economy and capital spending. You end up with wild misallocations and distortions because government feedback mechanisms are slow and crude compared to market mechanisms. Resources are allocated based on political considerations rather than demand and the results are far from optimal. Even when excesses are noted, it can take years or decades to correct them because the wheels of government grind slowly.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @MBlanc46

    Thank you, Jack D.

  338. @Clyde
    These girls and women don't want a guy in their locker room and showers.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Lot, @guest007, @Forbes, @Servant of Gla'aki, @Desiderius, @Bite Moi, @Bartleby the Scrivner, @Truth

    It doesn’t depend on the guy?

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @Truth

    You have been rotting around here long enough. Best luck in the new year. The best non racist place is Africa so let me know when you move there.

    Replies: @Truth

  339. @Kyle
    @Rosie

    The last time I was in an airport the university of Iowa girls field hockey team walked by me. The were all sub 5’5” and +150 lbs. They were all short, fat, snot nosed, and pimply faced. They all resembled 14 year olds even though I’m sure they must have been 18-21. There was no intensity or focus in their demeanor, it was just a giggling gaggle of plump juvenile females. Which is fine, but when you start reconciling that with the reality of what you’re seeing it starts to seem ridiculous. Their parents are paying tens of thousands of dollars for them to attend a large state school, and they’re flying around the country to play what’s essentially a children’s game. We’ve cut boys soccer & cross country for this? Something doesn’t seem quite right. You see impressive female athletes on TV, such as track runners or distance swimmers, so it’s jarring to see the reality of female athleticism up close.

    Replies: @dearieme, @Jack D, @Spud Boy, @Paperback Writer, @Truth

    The last time I was in an airport the university of Iowa girls field hockey team walked by me. The were all sub 5’5” and +150 lbs. They were all short, fat, snot nosed, and pimply faced. They all resembled 14 year olds even though I’m sure they must have been 18-21.

    Let’s go to the videotape…

    https://hawkeyesports.com/news/2019/10/26/fh-iowa-2-northwestern-1/

    • Replies: @HFR
    @Truth

    Truth---Thanks for that dose of reality. Those are very nice looking athletic girls who are having a lot of fun. @Kyle seems to be living in some alternate universe ("short, fat"), or just trolling ("snot nosed, and pimply faced").

  340. @Anon7
    Can't we all just get along? Can't we drop competitive sports and just enjoy wedding dancing?

    Feast your eyes on these figures, lads; I don't think that is any argument about who the men are and who the women are here in the Caucasus.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua95fPR6HC8

    Note that not only is there no touching; there is no eye contact, either.

    Replies: @anon, @JMcG, @Known Fact

    No touching and no eye contact? In America that’s after the wedding!

    • LOL: YetAnotherAnon
  341. @photondancer
    Of all the problems facing the USA right now, Biden has consistently prioritised the transgender agenda. I *really* want to know who is behind it. They are extraordinarily good at getting their way.

    Replies: @unit472, @Thoughts, @Mike Tre, @Dumbo, @Walsh2, @peterike, @Michelle, @Getaclue, @Thea, @BenKenobi, @Buffalo Joe, @Jeff, @Desiderius, @Desiderius, @Anon, @Cornbeef, @Dennis Dale, @CCZ

    The Transgender Industrial Complex book had all of your answers

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/56053510-the-transgender-industrial-complex

    • Replies: @photondancer
    @Cornbeef

    Yes, that book has been mentioned before. Thanks for reminding me to get a copy.

  342. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Matt Buckalew

    None of your high school cheerleaders has won a silver medal in Olympic figure skating. Sasha Cohen has.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/99/Sasha_Cohen_2009_SOI_Halifax_Spiral.jpg

    Replies: @HFR, @Truth

    You forgot the “Baron.”

    • LOL: Buzz Mohawk
  343. @YetAnotherAnon
    Totally OT, Covid related.

    The YUGE change in UK vaccination policy that I noted here (from the three week interval recommended by Pfizer to a three MONTH interval recommended by no one) is being questioned, as reports from Israel say just one jab isn't enough to give more than 33% protection, whereas two jabs in 21 days gives 95%.

    I presume the decision was made in the light of knowing the projected vaccine supply levels which obviously weren't good.

    Looks like the Brits are going to give a lot of oldies poor protection against Covid, rather than giving half the number of people good protection. "A very brave decision" as Sir Humphrey would say.

    https://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2021/01/20/revisiting-the-uks-strategy-for-delaying-the-second-dose-of-the-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine/


    "International organisations such as the Centre for Disease Control (CDC), the World Health Organization (WHO), and regulatory bodies such as the Food and Drugs Administration (FDA) in the US; and the European Medicines Agency (EMA) have advised that the vaccination schedules, as defined from the published peer reviewed studies from Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna (the other mRNA vaccine), should be followed (respectively 1/22 day and 1/29 day first/second dose vaccinations). [5] The German and US governments have recently stated that they do not intend to delay the second covid-19 vaccine shot and Pfizer and Moderna do not support the delay strategy."

    "The current UK strategy with the Pfizer mRNA vaccine is, in our view, a non-randomised, uncontrolled population experimental study without pilot data. The Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JVCI) and Public Health England should be prepared to revisit and, if necessary, reverse their decisions based on emerging scientific evidence. At the time of writing a statement released by Israeli officials has indicated that “real world” analysis of 200,000 people age >60 years, who have had the first dose of the Pfizer vaccine, shows efficacy of 33%, far less than the 89% stated by the JCVI. These new real world data suggest that the UK should reconsider the decision to delay the second dose of the Pfizer/BioNTech."
     


    Israel’s coronavirus tsar has warned that a single dose of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine may be providing less protection than originally hoped, as the country reported a record 10,000 new Covid infections on Monday.

    In remarks reported by Army Radio, Nachman Ash said a single dose appeared “less effective than we had thought”, and also lower than Pfizer had suggested.

    By contrast, those who had received their second dose of the Pfizer vaccine had a six- to 12-fold increase in antibodies, according to data released by Sheba Medical Center in Tel Hashomer on Monday.
     

    Replies: @Andy Ritter

    Yeah, that was a hell of gamble the Government there took, and a real strange one I thought, but it had/has incredible unanimity among Brits, from skeptic Peter Hitchens to all the mainstream experts. And if it fails, and fails hugely, it’s something Boris, who’s on the precipice already, will presumably have to stand down over, and I think he should swing for it.

  344. Yeah, that is a hell of a gamble the UK Government took spreading out the doses so widely, and a real reckless and desperate decision I think. But from everything I can tell it had/has great unanimity among both ordinary and public affairs-type Brits, from skeptic Peter Hitchens all the way to the mainstream medical experts.

    And if it fails and fails hugely and lethally, it’s something Boris, who’s on the precipice already, would presumably have to stand down over, and I think he should swing for it. But at least the Conservatives have a huge majority and don’t have to hold an election for years, so someone else can step up and give it their best shot for awhile.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Sam Malone

    A big UK problem is they put most of their chips on the home-grown Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine but they botched up the dosing. They probably could have gotten to 90% efficacy with the smarter Russian plan for that type of vaccine, but they wound up testing a dosing strategy that winds up stepping on its own feet.

  345. @Jack Armstrong
    @Jack D

    Milton Berle.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    The Jews have been circumcising their male infants for at least 3,000 years and it never turned them trannie before.

    Milton Berle.

    Uncle Miltie was transvestite, not “transgender”. You should read some of the stories in his adopted son’s memoir.

    Einstein’s brain was brined for science, and Berle could have done something similar.

  346. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @Jack D


    Field hockey is no more and no less a “children’s game” than any other sport. In many parts of the world it is played by men. I suppose in the US the men’s version is mostly crowded out by ice hockey and by lacrosse.

    You can object to almost ALL sports on the grounds that they are mere children’s games. The thing is that there is vastly more demand among spectators and the players to watch and participate in certain children’s games vs others, but Title IX substitutes government micromanagement for the judgment of the marketplace.
     
    I see Kyle's point though - he's writing that the Iowa Women's Field Hockey team didn't seem upon first blush to be a serious or high-level athletic enterprise but rather a social club arranged around travel and hitting a ball about. In such a case, is the travel part even necessary or something worth the expense if teams of a similar level of competition could probably be found within 30 miles of campus?

    At least in the case of BIG10 Football, it's a serious athletic enterprise justifying the necessity to fly the team across the Midwest to find competitive peers. You may object that BIG10 Football is too serious of an athletic enterprise (and the correlated academic exercise not serious enough), but it's a thing that's wholly different than what Kyle was describing. Indeed, the football programs generate excess revenue to fund other athletic programs which cannot self-fund. (Perhaps a better compromise would be directing the football revenue into academic programs).

    Replies: @Moral Stone, @Reg Cæsar, @Alden

    Perhaps a better compromise would be directing the football revenue into academic programs.

    Supposedly Notre Dame did just that. Look what it got us:

  347. @Sam Malone
    Yeah, that is a hell of a gamble the UK Government took spreading out the doses so widely, and a real reckless and desperate decision I think. But from everything I can tell it had/has great unanimity among both ordinary and public affairs-type Brits, from skeptic Peter Hitchens all the way to the mainstream medical experts.

    And if it fails and fails hugely and lethally, it’s something Boris, who’s on the precipice already, would presumably have to stand down over, and I think he should swing for it. But at least the Conservatives have a huge majority and don't have to hold an election for years, so someone else can step up and give it their best shot for awhile.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    A big UK problem is they put most of their chips on the home-grown Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine but they botched up the dosing. They probably could have gotten to 90% efficacy with the smarter Russian plan for that type of vaccine, but they wound up testing a dosing strategy that winds up stepping on its own feet.

  348. @Abolish_public_education
    The true cost of men’s football, at State U, is not just XY-women’s wrestling. The actual number is closer to the entire cost of the state university.

    That’s right.

    That is because without football, popular political support for the university would wane. The legislature would respond by eliminating 90% of the departments (starting with the X Studies programs so popular with jocks).

    The Professor of Football, at State U, is typically the highest paid, public employee in the state.

    In fairness to him, and his high six-figure assistants, they’re typically the only faculty who actually teach and, moreover, get paid for results.

    (The top whatever number of highly paids is still dominated by those quack, clinical profsters of medicine.)

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    That is because without football, popular political support for the university would wane. The legislature would respond by eliminating 90% of the departments (starting with the X Studies programs so popular with jocks).

    I suspect there’s a lot of truth in that. What does the average non-college grad get out of his state’s state universities? Not much, ultimately – just the chance to root for the “home team”.

    The Professor of Football, at State U, is typically the highest paid, public employee in the state.

    In fairness to him, and his high six-figure assistants, they’re typically the only faculty who actually teach and, moreover, get paid for results.

    And can be fired at will.

    If what you say is true this would be a good way of attacking universities, which action should be a part of any conservative populist movement. They are centers of power and influence and they belong to the enemy. I have long espoused the motto “abolish tenure”. Abolish College Football would be a good compliment to that.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Mr. Anon

    Mr. Anon, I agree. The college sportsball games, football being the biggest by a long shot, bring in BIG, BIG money into town on those 6 or 7 weekends in the fall. You are right that there are plenty of people with no degrees from the school (and I don't fault them one bit for that nowadays) who act like this school is theirs, college football is their church, "da team" is their denomination, and the coach is their Pope. Those Saturdays are like their revival meeting weekends.

    Not all, but some of these people wouldn't have a life if (expensive) college football went away. They'd have to find new one in which the actual important things going on in their country mattered to them.

    It's one half of the Bread & Circuses.

  349. @photondancer
    @jb

    You haven't thought this through. Transgenders insist they don't have to transition, they just have to say "I'm a woman" and we have to accept it. So that opens the way for any underachieving male athlete to say "I'm a woman, put me in the woman's comp" and lo and behold he starts winning, nabbing the prize money, college scholarships etc. Teenage boys aren't stupid, there have been cases of them doing exactly this and it will get worse as word spreads.

    Replies: @jb

    As I say, it matters how often it happens. For most men this would be a hugely embarrassing thing to do, and the vast majority will never do it. They might win prize money, but they would also win the contempt of their peers, and since sports is as much about status as money that would be a big deterrent. Neither you nor I can intuit the size of the small remainder that will be willing to do such a thing, and that’s the quantity that’s important. If it’s small enough the wokesters continue to get away with it, but if it’s too big they don’t. We’ll just have to wait and see.

    • Replies: @Peter Johnson
    @jb

    Yes I agree with you, JB. It depends on how may boys choose to call themselves transgender to win female races, etc.

    , @Peter Johnson
    @jb

    Yes I agree with you, JB. It depends on how may boys choose to call themselves transgender to win female races, etc.

    , @photondancer
    @jb

    Indeed, we shall have to wait and see but it seems to me that you're very close to saying 'Meh, only one or two girls are going to be affected". Like the woke who shrug off cancel culture because, hey, it only affected this one person and she/he was a jerk anyway. The real danger is in the chilling effect these cases have on all the others. How many girls and women are going to drop out of sport or never take it up in the first place because they don't want to be in this position? As one of the other commenters said, women's sport could end up being tranny only.

    It's not going to be a cake walk for men's sports either. ROGD transgenders are mostly female and a fair few of them cite a liking for sport as one of the reasons they think they must really be men. So we could see girls trying to join men's teams and that's not going to end well either. How long before they start demanding standards drop so they can 'fairly' compete?

    Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian

  350. @Do You Even Lift
    @Achmed E. Newman

    OT: Achmed, I find most of your comments amusing, so I checked out your website and liked it, lots of clever and funny stuff, but there was one major problem: Your post about the more-than-ample derriere attached to the woman on the treadmill at your gym had an interior photo taken at Orange Theory. Please tell me that this is just some stock photo that you grabbed off the net, and you aren't actually a member there. For iSteve readers unfamiliar with the world of physical fitness (Which I would guess is around 90%, because snarkiness inversely correlates with strength and vigor. If there ever is a real-world iSteve get-together, it will be BYOR. Bring Your Own Rascal), Orange Theory is a feminized, foo-foo, suburban Soccer Mom "gym" that is all cardio, no weights. Oh wait, they do have some 5-pound dumbells that you can attempt to curl while you text your lunch order to the Whole Foods deli. Orange Theory makes Planet Fitness look like Gold's.

    I'll check back at your site in a couple days, if you can post a pic of yourself at a real gym, bench pressing your bodyweight for reps (Or squatting 1.5 x bodyweight), I'll become a regular reader.
    And btw, my own physical-to-mental-strength comparison would be something like this: (Read it in a Russian accent) "Strong like bull, smart like tractor!"

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Trinity

    Hmm, I always had my best results lifting at home or at a small gym. Gym memberships are generally way too high and what you really pay for is relatively useless expensive machines that don’t work the stabilizer muscles and cause muscle imbalances. Machines are fine for older people, physically handicapped people or people healing injuries. Kettlebells are also an expensive tool that people believe is some kind of miracle breakthrough in fitness. There was a reason why kettlebells collected dust for SEVERAL decades except everywhere but Eastern Europe, they are cumbersome, wreck the wrists, elbows and forearms and dumbbells are far more practical and safer. Any kettlebell exercise can be performed with a dumbbell or dumbbells.

    People, save yourself some money and buy a pair of dumbbells, weights can be as cheap as a penny or two a pound if you buy them second hand. You can do one exercise and maintain a good strength base and conditioning. Dumbbell cleans and presses/push presses work the entire body and cardiovascular system if done with enough reps and intensity. Hill sprints/runs/walking can’t be beat and burpees for are invaluable. For the elderly or out of shape, stick with just basic bodybuilding movements and IF possible by all means stay away from machines if you are able. Do compound exercises and stay away from fluff exercises that only isolate muscle groups, train your body as a single unit. Machines wreak havoc on your joints, the body is moving in an unnatural position. IF nothing else just simply walk every day or better yet swim. IF you are woefully out of shape just start off walking and build up slowly, or if you cannot do pushups do wall pushups or pushups off a table. Start slowly, small steps to the moon.

    • Agree: Polistra
    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @Trinity

    I have been walking up hills and swimming laps daily in breaststroke and front crawl for the last three months, mainly with the intention of developing my lung capacity as a way of resisting covid-19 complications.

    The benefits have definitely been measurable, and I have had to buy new pants in a smaller size and my general energy level and libido is much improved.

    Today I will be traveling to a location that is 8000 feet above sea level, which will be the real test of the exercise regime.

    One benefits of the swimming is that before I started the most recent program of exercise, my legs were extremely stiff, often to the point of being painful and now they are not stiff at all and I am much more flexible.

    I definitely recommend daily swimming. At one time of my life I was swimming about half a mile a day for approximately 15 years, until I move to a place where I no longer had easy access to an exercise pool.

    That led to a general loss of good health, weight gain, shoulder problems, and circulatory problems. Since resuming daily lap swimming all these have gone away.

    Replies: @Trinity

  351. @Jack D
    @Anonymous

    Luxury cars no but they surely would have made better cars than the Trabant if they had the resources - the Soviets who were just as doctrinaire made the Lada which was much closer to a "real" (if somewhat obsolete) car, having a steel body and a 4 cylinder water cooled automotive engine rather than a cardboard body and a 2 cyl. 2 stroke air cooled motorcycle motor.

    There were many reasons for the constant shortages in command economies but underpricing (thus causing demand to exceed supply) was certainly one of them and ONE (but not the only) cause of underpricing was fear of popular backlash if prices were raised. The Novocherkassk massacre of 1962 began when workers demonstrated against an increase in dairy and meat prices that had been recommended by economists because the Soviet meat prices were below the cost of production, thus giving collective farms no incentive to produce meat and ensuring constant shortages. But there was no trust or understanding on the part of the Soviet public that increases in meat prices would lead to more supply.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novocherkassk_massacre

    I recommend the book "Red Plenty" as a fun and educational read. It is a novel but it adheres closely to historical fact. The feat is made even more impressive by the fact that the author does not speak Russian and worked entirely from translated material.

    Replies: @Fox

    The Lada was a Fiat built in a plant that was bought from and built by Italians in Russia and turned over as a functioning car manufacture into Russian hands. The Fiat was renamed ‘Lada’. The Trabant was, as far as I know, the only car that was actually conceived of, developed and built in the Eastern block. The Moscwitch was an Opel (model Kadett) built in Russia under this new name. The Russians transported the whole industrial works and technical know-how from Germany after the war when they dismantled numerous industrial plants in Germany bolt by bolt to be rebuilt bolt by bolt in the SU.
    I don’t know whether there was a Soviet (pre-Eastern block) car. If there had been, it would seem to have had shortcomings serious enough to be rather replaced by a “forcibly imported” foreign model.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Fox

    The Soviets always bought, licensed or stole Western technology (so did the Japanese in the early days of their car industry) but they also had plenty of native engineering talent. Some of the Soviet cars were more or less of mostly Russian design. Soviet auto manufacturers had to keep in mind the lack of repair facilities and the poor condition of Soviet roads so they tried for rugged and easy to repair.

    They tended to base their styling on a pastiche of Western styling trends so a Soviet car might look vaguely like a Ford from the front and a Buick from the back and a Packard from the side. But since they were by definition copying from cars that were already on the market and given that they tended to keep cars in production more or less unchanged for decades, their cars always looked out of date. This was also true under the skin, where for example Soviet cars had things like kingpin front suspensions that had be phased out in the West decades earlier.


    The Trabant was, as far as I know, the only car that was actually conceived of, developed and built in the Eastern block.
     
    This is far from true. There is plenty of material on the internet regarding E. Bloc cars if you are interested. Their biggest problem was that due to overall poverty and lack of resources devoted to civilian production, their production numbers were very low in relation to the West. Some famous models, such as the Zil that Soviet leaders rode around in, were produced only in the hundreds. Waiting lists for cars stretched for years.

    Replies: @Fox

    , @petit bourgeois
    @Fox

    You beat me to it. I was going to say that, yeah, a Lada is a Fiat.

    But there is something about the Trabant that appeals to me. I had the opportunity to buy one for $75 when I visited East Berlin in 1990 and I regret not doing so. Their main problem is that you could not do engine braking downhill, because the fuel-oil mixture would be too lean and would seize the motor.

    I am more than just a little bit of a two stroke enthusiast: I still ride my 1977 Yamaha RD400D and I love beating big bore bikes like Ducatis and Suzuki GSXRs between stoplights on PCH on Sunday to this very day.

    While the East Germans may not have built luxury cars, they certainly built luxury watches, just like they did before the war.

    For example, Glashuette:

    https://www.glashuette-original.com/

    The East Germans made some very fine watches during the cold war, but none of them wound up in East German hands.

    See, https://www.chrono24.com/magazine/made-in-gdr-watch-brands-from-former-east-germany-p_62787/#gref

    Replies: @Jack D, @Fox

  352. @dfordoom
    @Dumbo


    No, transgenderism and the blurring of the sexes is fundamental to them. Chaos and the destruction of the family are their goals. Demonic inversion is their credo.
     
    I don't think there's anything demonic, or fundamental, about it. Transgenderism is just a very useful stick with which to beat conservative Christians and social conservatives in general. It's a way to back conservative Christians into a corner in the hope that they'll react and then there'll be an excuse to give them another kicking.

    The Religious Right backed the Republican Party aggressively back in the 80s and 90s. Now it's pay-back time.

    It's also a useful stick with which to beat the Deplorables.

    I don't think the elites give a damn about the trannies, but they do care very much about putting the boot into conservative Christians and Deplorables.

    Plus it's a great way to distract attention away from economic issues.

    Joe Biden doesn't want people focusing on things like the debt does he?

    There are a few True Believer zealots among the elites but I really don't think most elites care about anything apart from maintaining and increasing their wealth and their power. They'll use any tools at all in order to do that.

    Replies: @photondancer, @Dumbo

    “Plus it’s a great way to distract attention away from economic issues.”

    Pretty much describes every political issue for the last 10 years.

    • Agree: Alden
  353. @Cornbeef
    @photondancer

    The Transgender Industrial Complex book had all of your answers

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/56053510-the-transgender-industrial-complex

    Replies: @photondancer

    Yes, that book has been mentioned before. Thanks for reminding me to get a copy.

  354. @Bartleby the Scrivner
    @Clyde

    The genetic females involved in the affected sports can stop the insanity in just a few events.
    Refuse to compete.
    NCAA makes money off of sports.
    And more importantly, the psychologically damaged males will be the focus of ire.
    If no one shows up for an event, does he event exist?

    Replies: @Rosie

    The genetic females involved in the affected sports can stop the insanity in just a few events.

    In other words, tell them “We prefer not to.” 😉

    • Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian
    @Rosie

    Well done, Rosie.

  355. @Unladen Swallow
    @Rosie

    The objection to Title IX is that it is being used to gut a bunch of men's sports in favor of women's sports, since most sports don't make money at the collegiate level outside of football and men's basketball. Those two subsidize all the rest of them, but women aren't as interested in sports as men are, so more men's sports have to be shelved to achieve equal participation rates between men and women, even if the unpopular men's sports are still more popular than female sports that are being kept. This is based on the dubious assertion that men and women find collegiate sports equally interesting.

    A lot of these men's sports at smaller universities produce a lot of Olympic athletes ( or rather they did ) in sports like gymnastics and swimming have now been abolished in favor female team sports like field hockey which by definition is not going to produce a lot of Olympians from one university ( Since there is only one national team attending the Olympics ). A lot of the female students getting athletic scholarship aren't serious about the sports anyway, but they take the scholarship for obvious reasons and a lot of men who could have a career in sports beyond college are left out in the cold because their sport isn't football or basketball.

    Replies: @Rosie

    As I explained in another comment, if University administrations are cutting men’s sports on the grounds that they can’t afford both, that’s not women’s fault.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/carolinesimon/2017/09/05/bureaucrats-and-buildings-the-case-for-why-college-is-so-expensive/?sh=1e60a768456a

    This is based on the dubious assertion that men and women find collegiate sports equally interesting.

    Again, I don’t think that is a necessary premise for the view that women’s sports should get equal funding. It is more than sufficient to point out that athletics is as important and beneficial for women as it is for men. Really, this is a ridiculous conversation for supposed right-wingers to even be having. Physical fitness has always been considered important on the Right, for women (future mothers) as well as men.

    A lot of the female students getting athletic scholarship aren’t serious about the sports anyway

    I don’t buy that and haven’t seen evidence for it. I have a woman in my family who got an athletic scholarship after working her a$$ off for it. I’m not going to say that’s the end of the matter, but I’m not going to take your word for it either.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Rosie

    Again, I don’t think that is a necessary premise for the view that women’s sports should get equal funding.

    As usual, you aren't actually paying attention to the facts as presented. See Gavora's book linked above.

    Physical fitness has always been considered important on the Right, for women (future mothers) as well as men.

    And again, as usual you are moving the goalposts / conflating different things. "Physical fitness" for college women or women of any age in no way requires the extensive legal machinery of Title IX as currently interpreted. Running can be done in any park, yoga can be done on a dorm room floor, etc. This is obvious to any honest observer.

    I leave you with this quote:

    One thing that would be tremendously helpful is if people would stop making unwarranted assumptions.

    Indeed.

    , @Anonymous
    @Rosie


    It is more than sufficient to point out that athletics is as important and beneficial for women as it is for men. Really, this is a ridiculous conversation for supposed right-wingers to even be having. Physical fitness has always been considered important on the Right, for women (future mothers) as well as men.
     
    We're talking about having girls and women play men's sports - games that were originally developed for men's enjoyment and leisure or as competitive tests among men of physical prowess. These sports are not necessary or even conducive to female physical fitness. Many of these sports end up distorting women's bodies and appearance. How is women's college rugby, for example, necessary or positive for women's health and fitness. They just allow and encourage these women to look grotesque.

    I'm not sure what the point of the picture from the '36 Olympics is supposed to be. The Nazis and pretty much everyone else at the time thought that female physical pursuits were mainly restricted to things like calisthenics, gymnastics, etc. And the Nazis were extremely sexist by today's standards and excluded women from most occupations and public activities outside the home.
    , @Rosie
    @Rosie


    A lot of the female students getting athletic scholarship aren’t serious about the sports anyway, but they take the scholarship for obvious reasons and a lot of men who could have a career in sports beyond college are left out in the cold because their sport isn’t football or basketball.
     
    Sure enough, the data don't support this claim. Female high school athletes are only slightly more likely than men to even compete in college, let alone get a scholarship. The exception seems to be ice hockey, where girls are indeed much more likely to advance to college play.

    Here are the percentages of high school participants who go on to compete in college:

    First: sports where only one gender competes:
    1. Football: 7.3
    2. Wrestling: 3.0
    3. Field Hockey: 10.1

    Note that the number of football players and wrestlers combine to more than 10× the number of field hockey players. Based on that fact alone, male college athletes vastly outnumber female ones, though including cheerleaders might change that.

    Now: sports where both genders compete, in descending order of probability of competing in college, with the male percentage in parentheses for comparison:

    1. Ice hockey: 26.2 (12.3)
    2. Lacrosse: 12.5 (12.8)
    3. Swimming: 7.5 (7.2)
    4. Soccer: 7.2 (5.6)
    5. Cross-country: 7.1 (5.3)
    6. Golf: 6.8 (5.9)
    7. Track & field: 6.2 (4.8)
    8. Softball: 5.6 (baseball 7.5)
    9. Water Polo: 5.6 (4.8)
    10. Tennis: 4.5 (4.9)
    11. Basketball: 4.1 (3.5)
    12: Volleyball:3.9 (3.7)

    So, in tennis, lacrosse, and baseball/softball, men are more likely to advance to college play than women. In golf, swimming, water polo, basketball, and volleyball, women are more likely to advance by 1% more likely to compete in college. In all cases except hockey, the difference is<2%.

    Now, setting aside the fairness question, it's clear that unserious girl athletes are waltzing into college sports with undeserved scholarships.

    https://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/research/estimated-probability-competing-college-athletics

    Replies: @Unladen Swallow

  356. @jon
    @Curle


    Saw Hope Solo in person once. She was a total babe!
     
    Hope's pronouns may be she/her, but that jawline is all he/him.
    https://www.etonline.com/sites/default/files/styles/max_970x546/public/images/2020-04/gettyimages-1128606860.jpg

    Replies: @Truth, @Curle

    Yeah, I would guess his wang is not exactly they/them either.

  357. @White Guy In Japan
    @Michelle

    In Thailand, the ladyboy is often seen as being magical. They are also seen as cursed, atoning for misdeeds from a previous life.

    Replies: @Michelle

    Thai ladyboy’s are better looking than ours.

    • Agree: Polistra
    • Replies: @Michelle
    @Michelle

    Polistra, of that there is no doubt!

  358. This book is now nearly 18 years old. The effects of Title IX as interpreted are carefully documented, and the predictions by Gavora have proven rather prescient, unfortunately. I link to Amazon because of the summary and reviews.

  359. anon[230] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rosie
    @Unladen Swallow

    As I explained in another comment, if University administrations are cutting men's sports on the grounds that they can't afford both, that’s not women's fault.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/carolinesimon/2017/09/05/bureaucrats-and-buildings-the-case-for-why-college-is-so-expensive/?sh=1e60a768456a


    This is based on the dubious assertion that men and women find collegiate sports equally interesting.
     
    Again, I don’t think that is a necessary premise for the view that women's sports should get equal funding. It is more than sufficient to point out that athletics is as important and beneficial for women as it is for men. Really, this is a ridiculous conversation for supposed right-wingers to even be having. Physical fitness has always been considered important on the Right, for women (future mothers) as well as men.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/80/Olympics_in_Berlin_1936.jpg

    A lot of the female students getting athletic scholarship aren’t serious about the sports anyway
     
    I don't buy that and haven't seen evidence for it. I have a woman in my family who got an athletic scholarship after working her a$$ off for it. I'm not going to say that's the end of the matter, but I'm not going to take your word for it either.

    Replies: @anon, @Anonymous, @Rosie

    Again, I don’t think that is a necessary premise for the view that women’s sports should get equal funding.

    As usual, you aren’t actually paying attention to the facts as presented. See Gavora’s book linked above.

    Physical fitness has always been considered important on the Right, for women (future mothers) as well as men.

    And again, as usual you are moving the goalposts / conflating different things. “Physical fitness” for college women or women of any age in no way requires the extensive legal machinery of Title IX as currently interpreted. Running can be done in any park, yoga can be done on a dorm room floor, etc. This is obvious to any honest observer.

    I leave you with this quote:

    One thing that would be tremendously helpful is if people would stop making unwarranted assumptions.

    Indeed.

  360. Anonymous[344] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rosie
    @Unladen Swallow

    As I explained in another comment, if University administrations are cutting men's sports on the grounds that they can't afford both, that’s not women's fault.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/carolinesimon/2017/09/05/bureaucrats-and-buildings-the-case-for-why-college-is-so-expensive/?sh=1e60a768456a


    This is based on the dubious assertion that men and women find collegiate sports equally interesting.
     
    Again, I don’t think that is a necessary premise for the view that women's sports should get equal funding. It is more than sufficient to point out that athletics is as important and beneficial for women as it is for men. Really, this is a ridiculous conversation for supposed right-wingers to even be having. Physical fitness has always been considered important on the Right, for women (future mothers) as well as men.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/80/Olympics_in_Berlin_1936.jpg

    A lot of the female students getting athletic scholarship aren’t serious about the sports anyway
     
    I don't buy that and haven't seen evidence for it. I have a woman in my family who got an athletic scholarship after working her a$$ off for it. I'm not going to say that's the end of the matter, but I'm not going to take your word for it either.

    Replies: @anon, @Anonymous, @Rosie

    It is more than sufficient to point out that athletics is as important and beneficial for women as it is for men. Really, this is a ridiculous conversation for supposed right-wingers to even be having. Physical fitness has always been considered important on the Right, for women (future mothers) as well as men.

    We’re talking about having girls and women play men’s sports – games that were originally developed for men’s enjoyment and leisure or as competitive tests among men of physical prowess. These sports are not necessary or even conducive to female physical fitness. Many of these sports end up distorting women’s bodies and appearance. How is women’s college rugby, for example, necessary or positive for women’s health and fitness. They just allow and encourage these women to look grotesque.

    I’m not sure what the point of the picture from the ’36 Olympics is supposed to be. The Nazis and pretty much everyone else at the time thought that female physical pursuits were mainly restricted to things like calisthenics, gymnastics, etc. And the Nazis were extremely sexist by today’s standards and excluded women from most occupations and public activities outside the home.

  361. @jb
    @photondancer

    As I say, it matters how often it happens. For most men this would be a hugely embarrassing thing to do, and the vast majority will never do it. They might win prize money, but they would also win the contempt of their peers, and since sports is as much about status as money that would be a big deterrent. Neither you nor I can intuit the size of the small remainder that will be willing to do such a thing, and that's the quantity that's important. If it's small enough the wokesters continue to get away with it, but if it's too big they don't. We'll just have to wait and see.

    Replies: @Peter Johnson, @Peter Johnson, @photondancer

    Yes I agree with you, JB. It depends on how may boys choose to call themselves transgender to win female races, etc.

  362. @jb
    @photondancer

    As I say, it matters how often it happens. For most men this would be a hugely embarrassing thing to do, and the vast majority will never do it. They might win prize money, but they would also win the contempt of their peers, and since sports is as much about status as money that would be a big deterrent. Neither you nor I can intuit the size of the small remainder that will be willing to do such a thing, and that's the quantity that's important. If it's small enough the wokesters continue to get away with it, but if it's too big they don't. We'll just have to wait and see.

    Replies: @Peter Johnson, @Peter Johnson, @photondancer

    Yes I agree with you, JB. It depends on how may boys choose to call themselves transgender to win female races, etc.

  363. @Rosie
    @Unladen Swallow

    As I explained in another comment, if University administrations are cutting men's sports on the grounds that they can't afford both, that’s not women's fault.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/carolinesimon/2017/09/05/bureaucrats-and-buildings-the-case-for-why-college-is-so-expensive/?sh=1e60a768456a


    This is based on the dubious assertion that men and women find collegiate sports equally interesting.
     
    Again, I don’t think that is a necessary premise for the view that women's sports should get equal funding. It is more than sufficient to point out that athletics is as important and beneficial for women as it is for men. Really, this is a ridiculous conversation for supposed right-wingers to even be having. Physical fitness has always been considered important on the Right, for women (future mothers) as well as men.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/80/Olympics_in_Berlin_1936.jpg

    A lot of the female students getting athletic scholarship aren’t serious about the sports anyway
     
    I don't buy that and haven't seen evidence for it. I have a woman in my family who got an athletic scholarship after working her a$$ off for it. I'm not going to say that's the end of the matter, but I'm not going to take your word for it either.

    Replies: @anon, @Anonymous, @Rosie

    A lot of the female students getting athletic scholarship aren’t serious about the sports anyway, but they take the scholarship for obvious reasons and a lot of men who could have a career in sports beyond college are left out in the cold because their sport isn’t football or basketball.

    Sure enough, the data don’t support this claim. Female high school athletes are only slightly more likely than men to even compete in college, let alone get a scholarship. The exception seems to be ice hockey, where girls are indeed much more likely to advance to college play.

    Here are the percentages of high school participants who go on to compete in college:

    First: sports where only one gender competes:
    1. Football: 7.3
    2. Wrestling: 3.0
    3. Field Hockey: 10.1

    Note that the number of football players and wrestlers combine to more than 10× the number of field hockey players. Based on that fact alone, male college athletes vastly outnumber female ones, though including cheerleaders might change that.

    Now: sports where both genders compete, in descending order of probability of competing in college, with the male percentage in parentheses for comparison:

    1. Ice hockey: 26.2 (12.3)
    2. Lacrosse: 12.5 (12.8)
    3. Swimming: 7.5 (7.2)
    4. Soccer: 7.2 (5.6)
    5. Cross-country: 7.1 (5.3)
    6. Golf: 6.8 (5.9)
    7. Track & field: 6.2 (4.8)
    8. Softball: 5.6 (baseball 7.5)
    9. Water Polo: 5.6 (4.8)
    10. Tennis: 4.5 (4.9)
    11. Basketball: 4.1 (3.5)
    12: Volleyball:3.9 (3.7)

    So, in tennis, lacrosse, and baseball/softball, men are more likely to advance to college play than women. In golf, swimming, water polo, basketball, and volleyball, women are more likely to advance by 1% more likely to compete in college. In all cases except hockey, the difference is<2%.

    Now, setting aside the fairness question, it's clear that unserious girl athletes are waltzing into college sports with undeserved scholarships.

    https://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/research/estimated-probability-competing-college-athletics

    • Replies: @Unladen Swallow
    @Rosie

    To paraphrase Mandy Patinkin in The Princess Bride " I don't think the data you cite means what you think it means ". Women are more likely than men to want to play collegiate ice hockey? by a 2-1 margin? More likely to want to participate in soccer, golf, track and field, and basketball? There is no female professional soccer league, the women's pro basketball league is a huge money loser underwritten by subsidies by the men's league (NBA) and it's team owners without which it would have folded twenty years ago. The PGA gets much bigger crowds and ratings than the LPGA.

    The percentage of HS female field hockey players is higher than the percentage of male football players, despite the fact that no one save their families attend field hockey games, whereas I'm pretty sure college football outdraws everything sports related in the US other than professional football (NFL). Is there even a female professional hockey league? I've never heard of one, and I'm sure that even minor league men's pro hockey outdraws it, there is an actual men's professional lacrosse league, or at least there was, pre-covid19, is there a female version? I doubt it. And yet... more female participants in these sports get college athletic scholarships, thanks for inadvertently making most of my points.

    Replies: @Rosie

  364. @Smarg Jones
    The Olympics will also be destroyed.

    Trannies with balls will enter the women's events and take all the Gold medals.

    The genuine female Olympic athletes should protest by fistfighting at the Games.

    Replies: @dfordoom

    The Olympics will also be destroyed.

    The Olympics is all about politics. The Olympics was destroyed when the United States turned it into a political event back in 1980.

    • Agree: Jonathan Mason
    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    @dfordoom

    Thank goodness the Nazis couldn't destroy it in 1936.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s23Q01qvdGs

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Okf2aaiD1c

  365. @martin_2
    Surely allowing men to participate in women's sports is only an American thing and it won't affect events such as Wimbledon or the women's World Soccer Cup or the Olympics, since other nations will have a say and I dare say 99% will laugh at the idea..

    Replies: @photondancer, @dfordoom

    Surely allowing men to participate in women’s sports is only an American thing and it won’t affect events such as Wimbledon or the women’s World Soccer Cup or the Olympics, since other nations will have a say and I dare say 99% will laugh at the idea.

    Other nations will do whatever the US tells them to do.

  366. @SunBakedSuburb
    @HammerJack

    "why we're in this mess"

    White men folded and passed the power to the brown and black overclass they helped create. White men believed ingrates of colour would lay laurels at their feet for their altruism. As the brand of the black goddess is seared into their flesh white men point their fingers at others and say you're why we're in this mess.

    Replies: @Alden, @Polistra

    I’ve posted many times the list of anti White especially White man Supreme Court orders that become laws and affirmative action laws that powerful White men imposed on other White men. Brown vs Topeka, Griggs Kaiser decisions by White men judges and every president from Eisenhower to the present have been anti White.

    The foundations like Ford Rockefeller created the women’s movement 55 years ago and the foundations were White man institutions.

    White men did it to the White race.

  367. @Jack D
    @Harry Baldwin

    Democrat politicians are always looking to virtue signal for their Leftist bleeding heart bases (white females - blacks are just there for the gibmedats and don't really care about anything that doesn't concern black people). For a long time, being pro-gay served that function but since every battle of World War Gay has been won and the enemy utterly defeated they needed to find something new to virtue signal with and transgender seemed like the natural next (il)logical step.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Alden

    Exactly. Liberalism can’t stay still. They have to find new causes constantly. No matter how ridiculous, not just transgender bathrooms but re designing tampon packages with “ “ masculine” colors because pink flowers make men buying tampons for personal use uncomfortable.

    Which was weird if they identify as women. If they’re really women why don’t they like pretty feminine packages?

    Cleared my emails today. Endless crap from my Congress critter about ridding America of White supremacy.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Alden


    Exactly. Liberalism can’t stay still. They have to find new causes constantly.
     
    I don't think that is so much a feature of liberalism as it is an elite device for continually distracting the people from any push for economic populism.

    The impetus for this sh!t b doesn't come from women, and I don't really think it comes from liberals, either, though I could certainly be wrong. It comes from the elites.

    They would sooner champion pedophile liberation than risk a pivot to economic issues.

    Replies: @anonymous

  368. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @Jack D


    Field hockey is no more and no less a “children’s game” than any other sport. In many parts of the world it is played by men. I suppose in the US the men’s version is mostly crowded out by ice hockey and by lacrosse.

    You can object to almost ALL sports on the grounds that they are mere children’s games. The thing is that there is vastly more demand among spectators and the players to watch and participate in certain children’s games vs others, but Title IX substitutes government micromanagement for the judgment of the marketplace.
     
    I see Kyle's point though - he's writing that the Iowa Women's Field Hockey team didn't seem upon first blush to be a serious or high-level athletic enterprise but rather a social club arranged around travel and hitting a ball about. In such a case, is the travel part even necessary or something worth the expense if teams of a similar level of competition could probably be found within 30 miles of campus?

    At least in the case of BIG10 Football, it's a serious athletic enterprise justifying the necessity to fly the team across the Midwest to find competitive peers. You may object that BIG10 Football is too serious of an athletic enterprise (and the correlated academic exercise not serious enough), but it's a thing that's wholly different than what Kyle was describing. Indeed, the football programs generate excess revenue to fund other athletic programs which cannot self-fund. (Perhaps a better compromise would be directing the football revenue into academic programs).

    Replies: @Moral Stone, @Reg Cæsar, @Alden

    I object to football and basketball because they are blackety blackety black. How can White men spend so much time watching black sports.

    If all the women ice skaters and ballet dancers were black, I’d just stop watching.

  369. @Rosie
    @Rosie


    A lot of the female students getting athletic scholarship aren’t serious about the sports anyway, but they take the scholarship for obvious reasons and a lot of men who could have a career in sports beyond college are left out in the cold because their sport isn’t football or basketball.
     
    Sure enough, the data don't support this claim. Female high school athletes are only slightly more likely than men to even compete in college, let alone get a scholarship. The exception seems to be ice hockey, where girls are indeed much more likely to advance to college play.

    Here are the percentages of high school participants who go on to compete in college:

    First: sports where only one gender competes:
    1. Football: 7.3
    2. Wrestling: 3.0
    3. Field Hockey: 10.1

    Note that the number of football players and wrestlers combine to more than 10× the number of field hockey players. Based on that fact alone, male college athletes vastly outnumber female ones, though including cheerleaders might change that.

    Now: sports where both genders compete, in descending order of probability of competing in college, with the male percentage in parentheses for comparison:

    1. Ice hockey: 26.2 (12.3)
    2. Lacrosse: 12.5 (12.8)
    3. Swimming: 7.5 (7.2)
    4. Soccer: 7.2 (5.6)
    5. Cross-country: 7.1 (5.3)
    6. Golf: 6.8 (5.9)
    7. Track & field: 6.2 (4.8)
    8. Softball: 5.6 (baseball 7.5)
    9. Water Polo: 5.6 (4.8)
    10. Tennis: 4.5 (4.9)
    11. Basketball: 4.1 (3.5)
    12: Volleyball:3.9 (3.7)

    So, in tennis, lacrosse, and baseball/softball, men are more likely to advance to college play than women. In golf, swimming, water polo, basketball, and volleyball, women are more likely to advance by 1% more likely to compete in college. In all cases except hockey, the difference is<2%.

    Now, setting aside the fairness question, it's clear that unserious girl athletes are waltzing into college sports with undeserved scholarships.

    https://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/research/estimated-probability-competing-college-athletics

    Replies: @Unladen Swallow

    To paraphrase Mandy Patinkin in The Princess Bride ” I don’t think the data you cite means what you think it means “. Women are more likely than men to want to play collegiate ice hockey? by a 2-1 margin? More likely to want to participate in soccer, golf, track and field, and basketball? There is no female professional soccer league, the women’s pro basketball league is a huge money loser underwritten by subsidies by the men’s league (NBA) and it’s team owners without which it would have folded twenty years ago. The PGA gets much bigger crowds and ratings than the LPGA.

    The percentage of HS female field hockey players is higher than the percentage of male football players, despite the fact that no one save their families attend field hockey games, whereas I’m pretty sure college football outdraws everything sports related in the US other than professional football (NFL). Is there even a female professional hockey league? I’ve never heard of one, and I’m sure that even minor league men’s pro hockey outdraws it, there is an actual men’s professional lacrosse league, or at least there was, pre-covid19, is there a female version? I doubt it. And yet… more female participants in these sports get college athletic scholarships, thanks for inadvertently making most of my points.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Unladen Swallow


    Women are more likely than men to want to play collegiate ice hockey? by a 2-1 margin?
     
    WTF? I specifically said ice hockey s an outlier. If you want to bitch about ice hockey, have at it.

    The percentage of HS female field hockey players is higher than the percentage of male football players
     
    So what? Male hockey players are also more likely to advance than male football players. I don't see you crying about that.

    whereas I’m pretty sure college football outdraws everything sports related in the US other than professional football (NFL).
     
    Why should that determine what sports women get to play in college?


    And yet… more female participants in these sports get college athletic scholarships, thanks for inadvertently making most of my points.
     
    Where's your evidence for this?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Unladen Swallow

  370. @Clyde
    @Buffalo Joe


    to learn the real meaning of the word “fiancé”, and to learn to swim, ice skate and play lacrosse. I knew it was a dream with the lacrosse thing.
     
    There is always hope. We all know Jim Brown played lacrosse at Syracuse and excelled. Now that I think about it, a black dude playing lacrosse back then blew whitey's minds and got the white girls madly pursuing him.

    Jim Brown played lacrosse at Syracuse University. He started his lax career at a high school in New York called Manhasset High School. During his high school playing days, he earned 3 All-Star honors for midfield. At Syracuse, Jim Brown lettered in four sports including lacrosse and football.
     

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Clyde

    Your commentary is all good. I grew up in Queens county NYC where we kids built snow forts and threw snowballs. This must have been longer and more intense in far north Buffalo

  371. @Trinity
    @Do You Even Lift

    Hmm, I always had my best results lifting at home or at a small gym. Gym memberships are generally way too high and what you really pay for is relatively useless expensive machines that don't work the stabilizer muscles and cause muscle imbalances. Machines are fine for older people, physically handicapped people or people healing injuries. Kettlebells are also an expensive tool that people believe is some kind of miracle breakthrough in fitness. There was a reason why kettlebells collected dust for SEVERAL decades except everywhere but Eastern Europe, they are cumbersome, wreck the wrists, elbows and forearms and dumbbells are far more practical and safer. Any kettlebell exercise can be performed with a dumbbell or dumbbells.

    People, save yourself some money and buy a pair of dumbbells, weights can be as cheap as a penny or two a pound if you buy them second hand. You can do one exercise and maintain a good strength base and conditioning. Dumbbell cleans and presses/push presses work the entire body and cardiovascular system if done with enough reps and intensity. Hill sprints/runs/walking can't be beat and burpees for are invaluable. For the elderly or out of shape, stick with just basic bodybuilding movements and IF possible by all means stay away from machines if you are able. Do compound exercises and stay away from fluff exercises that only isolate muscle groups, train your body as a single unit. Machines wreak havoc on your joints, the body is moving in an unnatural position. IF nothing else just simply walk every day or better yet swim. IF you are woefully out of shape just start off walking and build up slowly, or if you cannot do pushups do wall pushups or pushups off a table. Start slowly, small steps to the moon.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    I have been walking up hills and swimming laps daily in breaststroke and front crawl for the last three months, mainly with the intention of developing my lung capacity as a way of resisting covid-19 complications.

    The benefits have definitely been measurable, and I have had to buy new pants in a smaller size and my general energy level and libido is much improved.

    Today I will be traveling to a location that is 8000 feet above sea level, which will be the real test of the exercise regime.

    One benefits of the swimming is that before I started the most recent program of exercise, my legs were extremely stiff, often to the point of being painful and now they are not stiff at all and I am much more flexible.

    I definitely recommend daily swimming. At one time of my life I was swimming about half a mile a day for approximately 15 years, until I move to a place where I no longer had easy access to an exercise pool.

    That led to a general loss of good health, weight gain, shoulder problems, and circulatory problems. Since resuming daily lap swimming all these have gone away.

    • Replies: @Trinity
    @Jonathan Mason

    I swim because I hate stretching. I am definitely no shark in the water. At 5'10" and about 195-205lbs depending on how much bread I have been eating lately, I look odd in the pool but I swim 450 yards 2-3 times a week. I try the butterfly but my big ass can't manage that stroke but I do mix it up with the breaststroke, sidestroke and freestyle. I tried but I can't perform the backstroke. Of course one of the worlds strongest men, Eddie Hall, looks at home in the water and he weighs over 300lbs. Hall used to be a swimmer of note before he took to the weights.

    Running hills are safe as well because you can't go fast enough to injure yourself. NEVER run downhill it will wreck your knees in the long run, either walk or jog down them backwards. You want a helluva workout? Trying jogging up a hill backwards. Try doing crab walks or bear crawls up hills as well. Do a search for various animal walks and crawl exercises, they are all on the internet. Best functional workouts a person can do for themselves and they cost nothing. I like lifting the iron, but you MUST cover every aspect of fitness like mobility which is the most important thing for a person to maintain as they age, endurance, flexibility as well as strength. And of course the lungs and heart are the most important. Hill training will take care of the legs, the heart and the lungs, believe me. Running in soft sand is also great, once I lived near some sand dunes with hills. Hardest damn thing I have ever done.

  372. When these decisions are taken to the ultimate conclusion, you have men like Caster Semenya, the South African athlete, who strangely is allowed to dominate the women’s track events. And the media promote his cause rabidly.

  373. @jb
    @photondancer

    As I say, it matters how often it happens. For most men this would be a hugely embarrassing thing to do, and the vast majority will never do it. They might win prize money, but they would also win the contempt of their peers, and since sports is as much about status as money that would be a big deterrent. Neither you nor I can intuit the size of the small remainder that will be willing to do such a thing, and that's the quantity that's important. If it's small enough the wokesters continue to get away with it, but if it's too big they don't. We'll just have to wait and see.

    Replies: @Peter Johnson, @Peter Johnson, @photondancer

    Indeed, we shall have to wait and see but it seems to me that you’re very close to saying ‘Meh, only one or two girls are going to be affected”. Like the woke who shrug off cancel culture because, hey, it only affected this one person and she/he was a jerk anyway. The real danger is in the chilling effect these cases have on all the others. How many girls and women are going to drop out of sport or never take it up in the first place because they don’t want to be in this position? As one of the other commenters said, women’s sport could end up being tranny only.

    It’s not going to be a cake walk for men’s sports either. ROGD transgenders are mostly female and a fair few of them cite a liking for sport as one of the reasons they think they must really be men. So we could see girls trying to join men’s teams and that’s not going to end well either. How long before they start demanding standards drop so they can ‘fairly’ compete?

    • Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian
    @photondancer

    Why, yes, sort of like in the military, or in the police or fire departments.

    In a just world, only the looney tunes who delude themselves into thinking that they are capable of handling the physical demands of these careers would be the ones who pay the price for their delusions. But that's not how it works; your fellow soldiers, policemen, or firemen (eww, he said "men") may be hurt or injured because of this, or the people you are commissioned to protect are. This has a far higher chance of happening if the standards have been lowered across the board to accomodate some ideological goal.

    Sort of the opposite to the possible effect if transgendered or transitioning men start to dominate in women's athletics. Not good at all.

  374. @dfordoom
    @Dumbo


    No, transgenderism and the blurring of the sexes is fundamental to them. Chaos and the destruction of the family are their goals. Demonic inversion is their credo.
     
    I don't think there's anything demonic, or fundamental, about it. Transgenderism is just a very useful stick with which to beat conservative Christians and social conservatives in general. It's a way to back conservative Christians into a corner in the hope that they'll react and then there'll be an excuse to give them another kicking.

    The Religious Right backed the Republican Party aggressively back in the 80s and 90s. Now it's pay-back time.

    It's also a useful stick with which to beat the Deplorables.

    I don't think the elites give a damn about the trannies, but they do care very much about putting the boot into conservative Christians and Deplorables.

    Plus it's a great way to distract attention away from economic issues.

    Joe Biden doesn't want people focusing on things like the debt does he?

    There are a few True Believer zealots among the elites but I really don't think most elites care about anything apart from maintaining and increasing their wealth and their power. They'll use any tools at all in order to do that.

    Replies: @photondancer, @Dumbo

    I think you’re not paying attention.

    So you think that people like “Jennifer” Pritzker or “Rachel” Levine dress like (ugly) women because “it’s a great way to distract attention away from economic issues”?

    No, it’s really what they believe. And there is a much larger amount of trannies, transgenders or androgynes (feminine men, masculine women) among the elite (politicians, celebrities) than among the general population. Not all completely open or admitted.

    They do it, and they promote it, because they really believe in it. And they will promote it more and more, until it crushes people’s souls, forcing them to deny truth and say 2+2=5.

    “It’s the civil rights issue of our time”, said Biden. Yes, indeed.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Dumbo


    So you think that people like “Jennifer” Pritzker or “Rachel” Levine dress like (ugly) women because “it’s a great way to distract attention away from economic issues”?
     
    Indirectly, yes that is exactly what is happening. The media promote this nonsense to give the people something to do that doesn't threaten the plutocracy. People might still dress like womwn, but nobody would be paying attention but for the dynamic Doom is talking about.

    Replies: @Dumbo

    , @dfordoom
    @Dumbo


    So you think that people like “Jennifer” Pritzker or “Rachel” Levine dress like (ugly) women because “it’s a great way to distract attention away from economic issues”?
     
    As I said, there's a minority of True Believers.

    But for the elites in general all these Social Justice causes are just embraced because they're useful to the elites and they distract attention away from the power and wealth of the elites.

    The elites are not monolithic. Some are True Believers. Some are cynics who just see these causes as useful.

    The members of the elites are like most people. They're motivated mostly by personal advantage. They'll support any cause if there's a personal benefit for them in doing so. If there's no personal benefit they will support these crazy causes only as long as they feel it is in their interests to do so.
  375. @photondancer
    Of all the problems facing the USA right now, Biden has consistently prioritised the transgender agenda. I *really* want to know who is behind it. They are extraordinarily good at getting their way.

    Replies: @unit472, @Thoughts, @Mike Tre, @Dumbo, @Walsh2, @peterike, @Michelle, @Getaclue, @Thea, @BenKenobi, @Buffalo Joe, @Jeff, @Desiderius, @Desiderius, @Anon, @Cornbeef, @Dennis Dale, @CCZ

    We all know the Who, the question is the Why. They are in love with blacks because they know they’ll never “achieve equality” and will forever be suffering soulfully, and that’s like having a nuclear fuel rod powering the SS Equality.
    But the trans? There are hardly any–or were before they got started, with all this– which makes the whole project all the more sinister, and they’re forcing such abominable shit upon society it’s like they’re daring us to revolt.

  376. @Unladen Swallow
    @Rosie

    To paraphrase Mandy Patinkin in The Princess Bride " I don't think the data you cite means what you think it means ". Women are more likely than men to want to play collegiate ice hockey? by a 2-1 margin? More likely to want to participate in soccer, golf, track and field, and basketball? There is no female professional soccer league, the women's pro basketball league is a huge money loser underwritten by subsidies by the men's league (NBA) and it's team owners without which it would have folded twenty years ago. The PGA gets much bigger crowds and ratings than the LPGA.

    The percentage of HS female field hockey players is higher than the percentage of male football players, despite the fact that no one save their families attend field hockey games, whereas I'm pretty sure college football outdraws everything sports related in the US other than professional football (NFL). Is there even a female professional hockey league? I've never heard of one, and I'm sure that even minor league men's pro hockey outdraws it, there is an actual men's professional lacrosse league, or at least there was, pre-covid19, is there a female version? I doubt it. And yet... more female participants in these sports get college athletic scholarships, thanks for inadvertently making most of my points.

    Replies: @Rosie

    Women are more likely than men to want to play collegiate ice hockey? by a 2-1 margin?

    WTF? I specifically said ice hockey s an outlier. If you want to bitch about ice hockey, have at it.

    The percentage of HS female field hockey players is higher than the percentage of male football players

    So what? Male hockey players are also more likely to advance than male football players. I don’t see you crying about that.

    whereas I’m pretty sure college football outdraws everything sports related in the US other than professional football (NFL).

    Why should that determine what sports women get to play in college?

    And yet… more female participants in these sports get college athletic scholarships, thanks for inadvertently making most of my points.

    Where’s your evidence for this?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Rosie


    Why should that determine what sports women get to play in college?
     
    Colleges should not be promoting and funding a tiny group of elite female beneficiaries of gender segregation. If you want some low key intramurals or gym classes, fine. (But why not have those be self funded?)

    Replies: @Rosie

    , @Unladen Swallow
    @Rosie

    You're missing the point, there is no female pro hockey league, never has been, the NHL by contrast has been around almost a century, and yet, twice as many women as men end up playing hockey at the collegiate level, and no one watches female hockey at the collegiate level either. So what is driving this? there is no economic rationale, this is being driven by bureaucratic adherence to Title IX.

    Regarding your men's hockey to football comparison, football both at the high school and collegiate level is popular across the country, hockey is not, most American hockey players come from either in the Northeast or the Upper Midwest or Colorado, which not coincidentally is where most of all the top collegiate programs are located. So the number of HS hockey players available is a lot less than the number of HS football players, so more get a chance to play at the collegiate level. Does Alabama or Oklahoma or USC have a men's hockey team? I doubt it, but I'm pretty sure they have football programs.

    My evidence? Do women participate in golf more than men, more in track and field? more in soccer? more in basketball? Do I see girls spontaneously taking up these sports when not in school or not under adult supervision? I've never seen this. Even on the rare occasions I have seen girls playing outside of school they are invariably playing with guys, not with other women, whereas I see guys playing guys in these sports in non official capacity all the time. The female participation rate in practically all of these should be lower than the men's rate, not higher, not the same or slightly less based on interest.

    Replies: @Jack D

  377. @Alden
    @Jack D

    Exactly. Liberalism can’t stay still. They have to find new causes constantly. No matter how ridiculous, not just transgender bathrooms but re designing tampon packages with “ “ masculine” colors because pink flowers make men buying tampons for personal use uncomfortable.

    Which was weird if they identify as women. If they’re really women why don’t they like pretty feminine packages?

    Cleared my emails today. Endless crap from my Congress critter about ridding America of White supremacy.

    Replies: @Rosie

    Exactly. Liberalism can’t stay still. They have to find new causes constantly.

    I don’t think that is so much a feature of liberalism as it is an elite device for continually distracting the people from any push for economic populism.

    The impetus for this sh!t b doesn’t come from women, and I don’t really think it comes from liberals, either, though I could certainly be wrong. It comes from the elites.

    They would sooner champion pedophile liberation than risk a pivot to economic issues.

    • Agree: dfordoom
    • Replies: @anonymous
    @Rosie


    an elite device for continually distracting the people from any push for economic populism.
     
    Yup, you got it. Distract everyone with these gender, pronoun and race issues even as they're being robbed and put out of work. There's no grassroots groundswell of demand for this but is an elite imposed program. Keep the chumps preoccupied with the elite owned media doing it's part.
  378. @Dumbo
    @dfordoom

    I think you're not paying attention.

    So you think that people like "Jennifer" Pritzker or "Rachel" Levine dress like (ugly) women because "it’s a great way to distract attention away from economic issues"?

    No, it's really what they believe. And there is a much larger amount of trannies, transgenders or androgynes (feminine men, masculine women) among the elite (politicians, celebrities) than among the general population. Not all completely open or admitted.

    They do it, and they promote it, because they really believe in it. And they will promote it more and more, until it crushes people's souls, forcing them to deny truth and say 2+2=5.

    "It's the civil rights issue of our time", said Biden. Yes, indeed.

    Replies: @Rosie, @dfordoom

    So you think that people like “Jennifer” Pritzker or “Rachel” Levine dress like (ugly) women because “it’s a great way to distract attention away from economic issues”?

    Indirectly, yes that is exactly what is happening. The media promote this nonsense to give the people something to do that doesn’t threaten the plutocracy. People might still dress like womwn, but nobody would be paying attention but for the dynamic Doom is talking about.

    • Replies: @Dumbo
    @Rosie

    No.

    While there is of course an agenda to promote division on all possible aspects (race, sex, class, etc), I don't think the transgender issue is *only* about that.

    They care deeply about this issue, it's clear. Just look at how many current celebrities and politicians are transgender, or gay or sexually far from normal in some way or another. Also the constant symbolism. And would some rich person dress like a woman if it was just to "create political division" and "distract people"?

    Just look at the history of the Pritzker family and the huge wealth and influence they have.

    Among other things, they promote ugly modern architecture (another of the elite pet projects) through the Pritzker Prize.

    But look also at how much money and interest "Jennifer" Pritzker and her rich family throw into promoting "transgender studies", "transgender in the military", etc.

    And that's just part of it. Look at the immense effort to push it in the culture, the Wachowski "sisters", formerly brothers, and how they are endlessly promoted despite having produced only failures in the last decade. Their latest project, a story with transgender themes, has "100% critics approval" but only "68% audience" (it's increasingly common to see very different critics/audience scores).

    To say that this is just a "distraction" is to say that, I don't know, massive immigration is a "distraction". No, it isn't.

    Replies: @Rosie

  379. @SunBakedSuburb
    @HammerJack

    "why we're in this mess"

    White men folded and passed the power to the brown and black overclass they helped create. White men believed ingrates of colour would lay laurels at their feet for their altruism. As the brand of the black goddess is seared into their flesh white men point their fingers at others and say you're why we're in this mess.

    Replies: @Alden, @Polistra

    “White Men White Men White Men”

    Sorry, but we already have the MSM for that sort of whining.

    We don’t need you & you’re adding nothing to the discussion.

  380. @unit472
    @photondancer

    Quite! There is no political advantage to promoting 'transgenderism'. It is a minority within a minority. There may have always been 'drag queens' just as there have always been child molesters but no politician, until Joe Biden, saw any advantage to being their 'champion'.

    Oh well, this is what you get when you make a compromised man president.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Dumbo, @Harry Baldwin, @Polistra, @dfordoom

    There is no political advantage to promoting ‘transgenderism’.

    Oh, but there is, if your goal is to wreck an established nation.

    Every little bit of destruction counts, and they have a lot.

  381. @Rosie
    @Dumbo


    So you think that people like “Jennifer” Pritzker or “Rachel” Levine dress like (ugly) women because “it’s a great way to distract attention away from economic issues”?
     
    Indirectly, yes that is exactly what is happening. The media promote this nonsense to give the people something to do that doesn't threaten the plutocracy. People might still dress like womwn, but nobody would be paying attention but for the dynamic Doom is talking about.

    Replies: @Dumbo

    No.

    While there is of course an agenda to promote division on all possible aspects (race, sex, class, etc), I don’t think the transgender issue is *only* about that.

    They care deeply about this issue, it’s clear. Just look at how many current celebrities and politicians are transgender, or gay or sexually far from normal in some way or another. Also the constant symbolism. And would some rich person dress like a woman if it was just to “create political division” and “distract people”?

    Just look at the history of the Pritzker family and the huge wealth and influence they have.

    Among other things, they promote ugly modern architecture (another of the elite pet projects) through the Pritzker Prize.

    But look also at how much money and interest “Jennifer” Pritzker and her rich family throw into promoting “transgender studies”, “transgender in the military”, etc.

    And that’s just part of it. Look at the immense effort to push it in the culture, the Wachowski “sisters”, formerly brothers, and how they are endlessly promoted despite having produced only failures in the last decade. Their latest project, a story with transgender themes, has “100% critics approval” but only “68% audience” (it’s increasingly common to see very different critics/audience scores).

    To say that this is just a “distraction” is to say that, I don’t know, massive immigration is a “distraction”. No, it isn’t.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Dumbo


    And would some rich person dress like a woman if it was just to “create political division” and “distract people”?
     
    You're not listening. I already said that it is the media push that is the distraction, not the behavior itself.

    Though, media attention will certainly result in us getting more of the behavior.
  382. anonymous[400] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rosie
    @Alden


    Exactly. Liberalism can’t stay still. They have to find new causes constantly.
     
    I don't think that is so much a feature of liberalism as it is an elite device for continually distracting the people from any push for economic populism.

    The impetus for this sh!t b doesn't come from women, and I don't really think it comes from liberals, either, though I could certainly be wrong. It comes from the elites.

    They would sooner champion pedophile liberation than risk a pivot to economic issues.

    Replies: @anonymous

    an elite device for continually distracting the people from any push for economic populism.

    Yup, you got it. Distract everyone with these gender, pronoun and race issues even as they’re being robbed and put out of work. There’s no grassroots groundswell of demand for this but is an elite imposed program. Keep the chumps preoccupied with the elite owned media doing it’s part.

  383. Having done some reading of commentators much more sensible and fair-minded than your typical Unz piglet (NAUCALT), it appears that college football is causing problems with Title 9 compliance.

    A simple solution: Advocates could try to get it thrown out of the calculation and compliance judged by the remaining sports.

    In the alternative, insist that any female-dominated activities (such as cheerleading) be included in compliance evaluations as well. (Apparently there is some resistance to this.)

    Or

    Just keep nursing your hatred and gloating about the destruction of women’s sports, because finding reasonable solutions isn’t the point.

  384. @Mr. Anon
    @Abolish_public_education


    That is because without football, popular political support for the university would wane. The legislature would respond by eliminating 90% of the departments (starting with the X Studies programs so popular with jocks).
     
    I suspect there's a lot of truth in that. What does the average non-college grad get out of his state's state universities? Not much, ultimately - just the chance to root for the "home team".

    The Professor of Football, at State U, is typically the highest paid, public employee in the state.

    In fairness to him, and his high six-figure assistants, they’re typically the only faculty who actually teach and, moreover, get paid for results.
     
    And can be fired at will.

    If what you say is true this would be a good way of attacking universities, which action should be a part of any conservative populist movement. They are centers of power and influence and they belong to the enemy. I have long espoused the motto "abolish tenure". Abolish College Football would be a good compliment to that.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Mr. Anon, I agree. The college sportsball games, football being the biggest by a long shot, bring in BIG, BIG money into town on those 6 or 7 weekends in the fall. You are right that there are plenty of people with no degrees from the school (and I don’t fault them one bit for that nowadays) who act like this school is theirs, college football is their church, “da team” is their denomination, and the coach is their Pope. Those Saturdays are like their revival meeting weekends.

    Not all, but some of these people wouldn’t have a life if (expensive) college football went away. They’d have to find new one in which the actual important things going on in their country mattered to them.

    It’s one half of the Bread & Circuses.

  385. Anonymous[310] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rob
    @Rosie

    I am not a manospherian nor at all interested in sports. But most men are. Title IX applied to sports pitted women’s sports directly against men’s in a culture where a couple of men’s sports got most of the funding from colleges, and men are much more interested in playing sports.

    Title IX’s forces equal funding for women’s sports. Schools were not going to lessen their support of football and basketball, so that killed a lot of men’s sports at the university level.

    Education was already tilted heavily in girls’ favor. When boys do better on the SAT, they add another verbal section to help girls. Boys do better in on math tests? They teach math very badly and slowly. Absolutely no one thinks schools need to be overhauled from top to bottom to ensure that boys’ GPA equals gurls’. While it is may be a symptom of toxic masculinity, it might only be a result of natural competitiveness, being more athletic is the only thing that boys have that makes them feel not-so-inferior to girls. They have a lot of their self-esteem tied up in sports.

    With pretty much every factor in college admissions favoring girls, Title IX gave women equal sports scholarship funding with men. That’s the same athletic scholarship funding spread over far fewer athletes. Given the racial difference x sex difference in sports, most of those football and basketball scholarships are not open to white boys. Black girls don’t play sports much, maybe because of obesity, maybe their hair, I dunno. Regardless of the causes, not only are teachers biased in girls’ favor, but now sports scholarships are, too. Testing, the only remotely fair measure of ability, has been declining in popularity, and will soon be nonexistent. That is largely not the fault of either women or title IX. It can squarely be blamed on Asians testing too well, and blacks testing too poorly. It also has disproportionately hurt boys, who depend on testing to show that they are not dumb, just immature.

    It’s been a long time since I was in high school, but at least back then, the girl-jock culture was not nearly as toxic as the guys’ was, so there is that in favor of pushing women’s athletics. Maybe sporty girls will have a positive influence on the jock subculture, but I think it is just as likely that the boys will turn the girls into binge-drinking, anti-intellectual bullies.

    Don’t get me wrong, our obsession with sports does not speak well of men.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Title IX’s forces equal funding for women’s sports. Schools were not going to lessen their support of football and basketball, so that killed a lot of men’s sports at the university level.

    That disproportionately harms White men, and disproportionately benefits black males, as you go on to suggest later.

    Coincidence?

  386. @Lemon
    Steve, This is a horrible development regarding womens sports, but.......

    ... let me digress to your previous article about the 1917 terrorist panic aimed at German-Americans. Germans became docile instead of demonstrative.

    Exactly the same with the super intelligent Japanese after Internment. They kept there heads down, down down. Think of the amazing waste of brainpower. They were really on their way before this. They dominated the entire California strawberry market prior to internment. After the war and horrible imprisonment and demonization, instead of getting there kids in the best colleges, "Shell-shocked Japanese parent told there kids, to just quietly get a degree and/or job. No big ambitions thanks to being demonized in the worst way during WW2.

    I bought a place from an internee in the 90's. He was the best man ever, but he and his wife were so "careful" even with me 50 years later. It like they were saying to me, "we want no trouble with you."

    Good Luck in 2121, with the newly declared war on Americans again.

    Replies: @bomag

    Germans became docile instead of demonstrative… same with the super intelligent Japanese

    Largely a function of them being obedient, rule following people.

    If the rules say be mean, they are very good at being mean.

    If the rules say be nice, they are very good at being nice.

    Today the rules are to abolish themselves. We need better rules.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @bomag

    They are like the breed of shepherd dog that bears their name, one of the best breeds in the world. (As this owner can happily testify, the dog is remarkably like the people who created it. Interestingly, that resemblance includes the stereotypes people have about it and sometimes their fear of it.)

    Replies: @Trinity

  387. @Rosie
    @Unladen Swallow


    Women are more likely than men to want to play collegiate ice hockey? by a 2-1 margin?
     
    WTF? I specifically said ice hockey s an outlier. If you want to bitch about ice hockey, have at it.

    The percentage of HS female field hockey players is higher than the percentage of male football players
     
    So what? Male hockey players are also more likely to advance than male football players. I don't see you crying about that.

    whereas I’m pretty sure college football outdraws everything sports related in the US other than professional football (NFL).
     
    Why should that determine what sports women get to play in college?


    And yet… more female participants in these sports get college athletic scholarships, thanks for inadvertently making most of my points.
     
    Where's your evidence for this?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Unladen Swallow

    Why should that determine what sports women get to play in college?

    Colleges should not be promoting and funding a tiny group of elite female beneficiaries of gender segregation. If you want some low key intramurals or gym classes, fine. (But why not have those be self funded?)

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Anonymous


    Colleges should not be promoting and funding a tiny group of elite female beneficiaries of gender segregation.
     
    I see you're singling out women again, so I presume you're fine with "tiny groups of elite male beneficiaries of ender segregation" that are not self-funded.
  388. Well , if this thing catches on, I would expect that in a decade or two we will be watching the Olympics and not seeing any of those second tier penis lacking athletes who seem to get so much publicity in today’s world

  389. @Dumbo
    @Rosie

    No.

    While there is of course an agenda to promote division on all possible aspects (race, sex, class, etc), I don't think the transgender issue is *only* about that.

    They care deeply about this issue, it's clear. Just look at how many current celebrities and politicians are transgender, or gay or sexually far from normal in some way or another. Also the constant symbolism. And would some rich person dress like a woman if it was just to "create political division" and "distract people"?

    Just look at the history of the Pritzker family and the huge wealth and influence they have.

    Among other things, they promote ugly modern architecture (another of the elite pet projects) through the Pritzker Prize.

    But look also at how much money and interest "Jennifer" Pritzker and her rich family throw into promoting "transgender studies", "transgender in the military", etc.

    And that's just part of it. Look at the immense effort to push it in the culture, the Wachowski "sisters", formerly brothers, and how they are endlessly promoted despite having produced only failures in the last decade. Their latest project, a story with transgender themes, has "100% critics approval" but only "68% audience" (it's increasingly common to see very different critics/audience scores).

    To say that this is just a "distraction" is to say that, I don't know, massive immigration is a "distraction". No, it isn't.

    Replies: @Rosie

    And would some rich person dress like a woman if it was just to “create political division” and “distract people”?

    You’re not listening. I already said that it is the media push that is the distraction, not the behavior itself.

    Though, media attention will certainly result in us getting more of the behavior.

  390. @Anonymous
    @Rosie


    Why should that determine what sports women get to play in college?
     
    Colleges should not be promoting and funding a tiny group of elite female beneficiaries of gender segregation. If you want some low key intramurals or gym classes, fine. (But why not have those be self funded?)

    Replies: @Rosie

    Colleges should not be promoting and funding a tiny group of elite female beneficiaries of gender segregation.

    I see you’re singling out women again, so I presume you’re fine with “tiny groups of elite male beneficiaries of ender segregation” that are not self-funded.

  391. BTW, I have argued before that cheerleading is a sport. (See link.) Some people don’t like the symbolism of it (women on the sidelines). I don’t much care for it myself, but I do admire how women have made cheerleading an impressive athletic display in its own right.

    https://www.unz.com/estriker/gay-black-icon-indicted-for-sodomizing-an-underage-boy/

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    @Rosie

    Cheerleading competitions (as opposed to the usual pompom-waving and pole-dancing during football games) feature some incredible gymnastics. If I ever somehow found myself standing on someone's shoulders I'd immediately faint right back to the ground.

    BTW Ann Coulter on radio right now -- "This [tranny order] is the end of women's sports. The end."

  392. @bomag
    @Lemon


    Germans became docile instead of demonstrative... same with the super intelligent Japanese
     
    Largely a function of them being obedient, rule following people.

    If the rules say be mean, they are very good at being mean.

    If the rules say be nice, they are very good at being nice.

    Today the rules are to abolish themselves. We need better rules.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    They are like the breed of shepherd dog that bears their name, one of the best breeds in the world. (As this owner can happily testify, the dog is remarkably like the people who created it. Interestingly, that resemblance includes the stereotypes people have about it and sometimes their fear of it.)

    • Replies: @Trinity
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Countless breeds originated in Germany, the rottie, the dobie, the boxer, the schnauzer ( giant schnauzer) is an underrated guard dog, the dachshund, as well as the beloved German shepherd. I have 2 dachshunds, a dachshund mix who I rescued from one of my neighbors who always let the poor thing run loose, and an American bulldog which is a Scott/Johnson hybrid, one of the few dogs that originated in America. The American bulldog is the best dog that I have ever owned. I have had mutts, German shepherds, dachshunds, and a boxer, and the AB is my favorite. Great dog.

  393. @Truth
    @Kyle


    The last time I was in an airport the university of Iowa girls field hockey team walked by me. The were all sub 5’5” and +150 lbs. They were all short, fat, snot nosed, and pimply faced. They all resembled 14 year olds even though I’m sure they must have been 18-21.
     
    Let's go to the videotape...

    https://hawkeyesports.com/news/2019/10/26/fh-iowa-2-northwestern-1/

    Replies: @HFR

    Truth—Thanks for that dose of reality. Those are very nice looking athletic girls who are having a lot of fun. seems to be living in some alternate universe (“short, fat”), or just trolling (“snot nosed, and pimply faced”).

  394. The only way this is in ANY way fair is if the rule applies ONLY to those sports in which physical size and strength do not play any part in the outcome. Skiing, bowling, ice skating, curling, billiards, and Texas Hold ‘Em Poker come immediately to mind (although billiards and card games hardly qualify as “sports” since no athletic attributes are necessary).

    The rub, of course, is that there’s not a democrat in the entire country who’s interested in fairness in any way, shape, or form. Fairness, along with empathy and compassion, are seen as weaknesses among democrats, just as honesty, ethics, and morality are seen as character flaws.

  395. Anonymous[414] • Disclaimer says:
    @Desiderius
    @Anonymous

    Lol.

    When I was in East Berlin just before the wall came down the whole place was literally falling apart. In another ten years it would have been Cuba. The WWII vet older relative I was staying with in BRD had just been over to the DDR for the first time recently and was absolutely stunned. "Alles Kaput!" is all he kept saying. My UK professors were still trying to argue at the time that the DDR was, if not the superior model at least competitive enough that the Hungarian/Yugoslavian(!) "third way" was preferable to Western capitalism.

    All a house built on clouds.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    I have a relative, a retired auto engineer, who spent his career working for one of the big European car makers. He told me that back in the 1970s (i.e. when lots of people still thought communism was a serious competitor to capitalism) he and a group of his fellow engineers visited Berlin, both sides, first the West then the East.

    When they crossed from West Berlin–with its Mercs and BMWs–to East Berlin–and saw their first Trabi putt-putting down the mostly deserted road–the entire tour bus burst into laughter, much to the indignation of their young Pioneer tour guide.

    My relative said that–to him and his fellow auto engineers–this was decisive proof of the inferiority of communism to capitalism.

    (Another thing he said, was that away from the big main roads, which were well maintained, East Berlin was largely still a ruin–decades after the end of the war. He speculated that this neglect was deliberate: It was intended by the authorities as a permanent reminder to Berliners of the harm the Anglo-Americans had done to them.)

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Anonymous


    It was intended by the authorities as a permanent reminder to Berliners of the harm the Anglo-Americans had done to them
     
    First of all, the Russians were the one who conquered Berlin and they did plenty of damage too.

    2nd, Havana looks like this too, without any bombing. In a Communist country, since no one owns anything, there's no incentive to take care of building stock or build anything new.

    Soviet propaganda did make a big deal out of the firebombing of Dresden, though Stalin had done things that were a thousand times worse.

    Replies: @Desiderius

  396. @Rosie
    @Guy De Champlagne


    Title IX combined with the fact that men are better a sports means that a woman gets more sports program and scholarship funding than an equally skilled man.
     
    If you have a problem with 50/50, what percentage of athletic budgets do you think should be allocated to women’s sports? 25%, 10%, or were you thinking more along the lines of a 100/0 split?

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @TelfoedJohn, @ben tillman, @GamecockJerry, @Mike Tre, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @TheMan, @Guy De Champlagne, @Paperback Writer, @JR Ewing

    Economically speaking, the ratio should be “Whatever the college wants it to be.”

    Politically speaking, the ratio is, “Whatever the government says it has to be to keep the funding in place.”

    The point being, that intercollegiate sports ultimately exist as a marketing arm for the university to differentiate itself from other schools. If having certain teams and a certain level of funding is still a net positive for the school, then they will still fund those programs. If it suddenly “costs more” than the benefits that are accruing, then they will cease those programs.

    All Title IX is is a tax on federal funding that gets added into that marketing budget. If the mandates cause those net benefits to stop accruing, then the balloon gets squeezed in a different way and changes are made to pay the tax, but at no time will colleges ever turn off the federal spigot.

    Everything is a cost-benefit analysis and just like any government regulation, scholarship limits never “create” opportunities, they just move them around.

  397. @Dumbo
    @unit472


    Quite! There is no political advantage to promoting ‘transgenderism’. It is a minority within a minority.
     
    I think most people don't understand how important transgenderism is to the elites, and why. The question is not about "political advantage". Do you think they care about that? The "gay marriage" issue also had little "political advantage" as gays are also a small minority (although, they used the support of women to obtain it, because most women like gays and find them cuddly and, contrary to beta male and incels, they don't make passes at them).

    No, transgenderism and the blurring of the sexes is fundamental to them. Chaos and the destruction of the family are their goals. Demonic inversion is their credo. "Transgender children" is the next step, Biden already said that "8-year old children should be able to choose".

    This what we are up against, demonic androgynes from Hell:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Pritzker

    Replies: @dfordoom, @JR Ewing

    Don’t know if I necessarily agree with it as “being fundamental”.

    I think the answer is more cynical and simpler than that. The dems don’t really care about the outcome, they just care about winning elections and holding power.

    They win elections by catering to the feelings of a certain level of ignorant voter. “Look at all these people who are mean to [group]! Vote for us and we’ll stop those meanies.” Then after they are elected they maintain credibility by doing whatever it is they think needs to happen to that group.

    They’ve been very successful winning elections that way over the years, so successful that they’ve had to get more and more granular and deeper and deeper into the bucket with their definition of who’s being oppressed.

    We are now so deep into the bucket that all that’s left are various forms of mental illness, starting with homosexuality and now into transsexuals and pedos, so that’s what they are promoting as the next new civil rights struggle.

    They don’t care what they are promoting, they just want to win and they know that there is a large section of the population that can be easily won over by appealing to its virtue instincts.

  398. @Jonathan Mason
    @Trinity

    I have been walking up hills and swimming laps daily in breaststroke and front crawl for the last three months, mainly with the intention of developing my lung capacity as a way of resisting covid-19 complications.

    The benefits have definitely been measurable, and I have had to buy new pants in a smaller size and my general energy level and libido is much improved.

    Today I will be traveling to a location that is 8000 feet above sea level, which will be the real test of the exercise regime.

    One benefits of the swimming is that before I started the most recent program of exercise, my legs were extremely stiff, often to the point of being painful and now they are not stiff at all and I am much more flexible.

    I definitely recommend daily swimming. At one time of my life I was swimming about half a mile a day for approximately 15 years, until I move to a place where I no longer had easy access to an exercise pool.

    That led to a general loss of good health, weight gain, shoulder problems, and circulatory problems. Since resuming daily lap swimming all these have gone away.

    Replies: @Trinity

    I swim because I hate stretching. I am definitely no shark in the water. At 5’10” and about 195-205lbs depending on how much bread I have been eating lately, I look odd in the pool but I swim 450 yards 2-3 times a week. I try the butterfly but my big ass can’t manage that stroke but I do mix it up with the breaststroke, sidestroke and freestyle. I tried but I can’t perform the backstroke. Of course one of the worlds strongest men, Eddie Hall, looks at home in the water and he weighs over 300lbs. Hall used to be a swimmer of note before he took to the weights.

    Running hills are safe as well because you can’t go fast enough to injure yourself. NEVER run downhill it will wreck your knees in the long run, either walk or jog down them backwards. You want a helluva workout? Trying jogging up a hill backwards. Try doing crab walks or bear crawls up hills as well. Do a search for various animal walks and crawl exercises, they are all on the internet. Best functional workouts a person can do for themselves and they cost nothing. I like lifting the iron, but you MUST cover every aspect of fitness like mobility which is the most important thing for a person to maintain as they age, endurance, flexibility as well as strength. And of course the lungs and heart are the most important. Hill training will take care of the legs, the heart and the lungs, believe me. Running in soft sand is also great, once I lived near some sand dunes with hills. Hardest damn thing I have ever done.

  399. @Buzz Mohawk
    @bomag

    They are like the breed of shepherd dog that bears their name, one of the best breeds in the world. (As this owner can happily testify, the dog is remarkably like the people who created it. Interestingly, that resemblance includes the stereotypes people have about it and sometimes their fear of it.)

    Replies: @Trinity

    Countless breeds originated in Germany, the rottie, the dobie, the boxer, the schnauzer ( giant schnauzer) is an underrated guard dog, the dachshund, as well as the beloved German shepherd. I have 2 dachshunds, a dachshund mix who I rescued from one of my neighbors who always let the poor thing run loose, and an American bulldog which is a Scott/Johnson hybrid, one of the few dogs that originated in America. The American bulldog is the best dog that I have ever owned. I have had mutts, German shepherds, dachshunds, and a boxer, and the AB is my favorite. Great dog.

  400. @Rosie
    It's no surprise that the very first comment here is a Nanna Nanna boo boo from some juvenile little manosphere jackass.

    But on a more substantive note, what exactly is the objection to Title IX?

    EDIT, not just the first one, but the second one, too.

    How many comments before a normal guy chimes in? Or is it just male chauvinist piglets all the way down?

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Buzz Mohawk, @Intelligent Dasein, @Guy De Champlagne, @Kyle, @Kyle, @Mike Tre, @Neoconned, @Anonymous, @Ben tillman, @Not Only Wrathful, @S. Anonyia, @Old and Grumpy, @Mr. Anon, @TWS, @Bel Riose, @SunBakedSuburb, @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle, @Reg Cæsar, @Rob, @jon, @TruthHammer, @donut, @Unladen Swallow, @Chrisnonymous, @Paperback Writer

    The swimming team at one university I attended was shut down because a sport where women and men train together doesn’t contribute to title IX “balance”. Guess what the alternative was? Cutting the men’s basketball team. But they were all blacks, so the predominantly white team had to go.

  401. @Fox
    @Jack D

    The Lada was a Fiat built in a plant that was bought from and built by Italians in Russia and turned over as a functioning car manufacture into Russian hands. The Fiat was renamed 'Lada'. The Trabant was, as far as I know, the only car that was actually conceived of, developed and built in the Eastern block. The Moscwitch was an Opel (model Kadett) built in Russia under this new name. The Russians transported the whole industrial works and technical know-how from Germany after the war when they dismantled numerous industrial plants in Germany bolt by bolt to be rebuilt bolt by bolt in the SU.
    I don't know whether there was a Soviet (pre-Eastern block) car. If there had been, it would seem to have had shortcomings serious enough to be rather replaced by a "forcibly imported" foreign model.

    Replies: @Jack D, @petit bourgeois

    The Soviets always bought, licensed or stole Western technology (so did the Japanese in the early days of their car industry) but they also had plenty of native engineering talent. Some of the Soviet cars were more or less of mostly Russian design. Soviet auto manufacturers had to keep in mind the lack of repair facilities and the poor condition of Soviet roads so they tried for rugged and easy to repair.

    They tended to base their styling on a pastiche of Western styling trends so a Soviet car might look vaguely like a Ford from the front and a Buick from the back and a Packard from the side. But since they were by definition copying from cars that were already on the market and given that they tended to keep cars in production more or less unchanged for decades, their cars always looked out of date. This was also true under the skin, where for example Soviet cars had things like kingpin front suspensions that had be phased out in the West decades earlier.

    The Trabant was, as far as I know, the only car that was actually conceived of, developed and built in the Eastern block.

    This is far from true. There is plenty of material on the internet regarding E. Bloc cars if you are interested. Their biggest problem was that due to overall poverty and lack of resources devoted to civilian production, their production numbers were very low in relation to the West. Some famous models, such as the Zil that Soviet leaders rode around in, were produced only in the hundreds. Waiting lists for cars stretched for years.

    • Replies: @Fox
    @Jack D

    I didn't know about authentic (i.e., homegrown) Soviet or Russian cars. Thank you for pointing this out to me. I looked up the Zil and the pictures I found look a lot like the American Street Cruisers of the 50s and 60s.
    Cars from different countries have, no matter who the manufacturer is, a typical look. Hence a French or German, English, Italian, Swedish or Japanese, or an American car have a distinct national look about them and one can see immediately what concept of proportion, size, elegance and representation of machine purpose and strength was guiding the design pen. One immediately tell where the car is coming from. That's at least the case for the older designs. Yet with the Zil, I think I would have guessed wrong.

    Replies: @Jack D

  402. @Bostwick
    Can't wait for this policy to work its way up to women's pro sports, particularly the National soccer team.

    Replies: @Anonymous Jew

  403. @dfordoom
    @Smarg Jones


    The Olympics will also be destroyed.
     
    The Olympics is all about politics. The Olympics was destroyed when the United States turned it into a political event back in 1980.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

    Thank goodness the Nazis couldn’t destroy it in 1936.

  404. @Rosie
    BTW, I have argued before that cheerleading is a sport. (See link.) Some people don't like the symbolism of it (women on the sidelines). I don't much care for it myself, but I do admire how women have made cheerleading an impressive athletic display in its own right.

    https://www.unz.com/estriker/gay-black-icon-indicted-for-sodomizing-an-underage-boy/

    Replies: @Known Fact

    Cheerleading competitions (as opposed to the usual pompom-waving and pole-dancing during football games) feature some incredible gymnastics. If I ever somehow found myself standing on someone’s shoulders I’d immediately faint right back to the ground.

    BTW Ann Coulter on radio right now — “This [tranny order] is the end of women’s sports. The end.”

  405. @Mr. Anon
    @Rosie


    It’s no surprise that the very first comment here is a Nanna Nanna boo boo from some juvenile little manosphere jackass.
     
    Lots of regular white suburban moms with children support this transgender jackassery. Lots of them voted for Biden, who will now work to disenfranchise them and rob their children of opportunities in the name of "racial and gender equity". That's why it's relevant, you tiresome harpy.

    Replies: @Alice in Wonderland, @Rosie

    Lots of regular white suburban moms with children support this transgender jackassery. Lots of them voted for Biden, who will now work to disenfranchise them and rob their children of opportunities in the name of “racial and gender equity”. That’s why it’s relevant, you tiresome harpy.

    Bravo

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Alice in Wonderland

    Dumb broads like you will shit all over other women while you enjoy the benefits they've gotten for you. You're a pathetic little suck-up b!tch. You and Kylie both. You if the manosphere douchebags around here get their way:

    https://images.emedicinehealth.com/images/article/main_image/black-eye.jpg

    Replies: @anon, @Bel Riose

    , @Paperback Writer
    @Alice in Wonderland

    The majority of white suburban moms voted for Trump in 2020; he increased his voter share in all groups except white men.

    You have white men to thank for Biden.

    To be fair, Trump should be blamed for f'ing up, but since we're talking about the electorate here...

    Replies: @Johann Ricke

  406. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Do You Even Lift

    Thanks for the comment, Mr. Lift.

    a) Yeah, that was a file photo. In fact, I even had some wording to that effect due to this photo didn't represent well the little gym I was in, but you can't be too picky with "gym people with faces masks". I think I've heard of these Orange Theory gyms or maybe just passed one by on the road.

    b) As for your handle, I don't lift, in general. I have bench-pressed over 2 x my body weight when I was way younger, and I'm sure I could lift my body weight on a machine now. However, with free weights, I'm not so sure I could do it right away I have not done squats ever, so I don't know about that.

    c) I go to the gym for Cardio, and occasional other bar-bell exercises, that's all

    d) There's no way I want to put pictures and other ID info. on the site.

    That means you'll just have to be an irregular reader of Peak Stupidity. If you get tired of being irregular you can always go for a Morning Constitutional. "Irregular", get it? ;-}

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    I knew that was a file photo, I was just pulling your leg. I just felt like going on a rant about Orange Theory, and cardio in general, and that picture triggered me. Sorry I had to use you as my foil. What’s my problem with Orange Theory? There’s one in the shopping center near my house, along with a Fit Pantry, Starbucks, Trader Joe’s, upscale nail salon, and various other foo-foo type establishments. It’s a liberal suburban soccer mom mecca. They get out of their de rigueur Lexus SUVs and flit about in their tight, oh-so-tight yoga pants. It’s enough to drive a man crazy with…class envy? Unrequited lust?
    Sometimes just for fun I drive through that shopping center in my 4×4 pickup (Which is festooned with the obligatory Trump stickers, Confederate flag, and gun rack in the rear window) while belching clouds of thick, acrid diesel exhaust. (The truck, not me).

    Re the weights vs. cardio thing, I’m not some jacked-up, roid-raging Gymbro, I’m just an old guy trying to maintain a little muscle mass and mobility as I ease into senior citizenhood. And I don’t think a Rascal would look good in the back of my redneck-themed pickup. I used to do a lot of cardio during my military career, but that was only so I could pass the annual Air Force fitness test, which emphasizes aerobic fitness and a small waistline over physical strength. (And we wonder why they call us the sissy service). The Army and Marines have a much more well-rounded fitness test, because they have to actually engage in strenuous physical activity. Dunno about the Navy, but my guess is that as long as they can bend over far enough, they’re OK. (Just kidding, my salty, seagoing brothers-in-arms! Bes