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Edward Curtin’s classic article “The Satanic Nature of the Atomic Bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki” is worth re-reading as we commemorate the holocausts perpetrated August 6 and August 9, 1945. The fact that the people running the American empire are purely and simply evil—the term “psychopathic” isn’t strong enough—was illustrated by the completely unnecessary atomic bombings of Japanese civilians, which, contrary to public myth, did not cause Japan to surrender or save any lives. It was nothing more nor less than a message to the Russians. What a way to send a message.

Educated in the classics, philosophy, literature, theology, and sociology, Edward Curtin teaches sociology at Massachusetts College of Liberal Arts. His new book is Seeking Truth in a Country of Lies.

(Republished from Truth Jihad by permission of author or representative)
 
• Category: Foreign Policy, History • Tags: Hiroshima, Nagasaki, World War II 
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  1. The more classic essay from Paul Fussell, (a WW2 combat infantryman), Thank God for the Atom Bomb: https://www.uio.no/studier/emner/hf/iakh/HIS1300MET/v12/undervisningsmateriale/Fussel%20-%20thank%20god%20for%20the%20atom%20bomb.pdf

    Focusing on the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki after Japan had already been extensively firebombed is pedantic to say the least.

    A more appropriate critique of wartime American leaders is that they needlessly prolonged the war, and therefore made the atomic bombings seemingly necessary in order to avoid invading the home islands, by insisting on unconditional surrender. The Japanese had been sending peace feelers for some time through various back channels, but while some Americans had come around to at least accepting the maintenance of the Imperial throne as a sole condition, ultimately Truman decided to insist upon unconditional surrender.

    Negotiated peace would have ended the war sooner and prevented both the atomic bombings and the Soviet invasion of Manchuria.

    To give you all an idea of how important the Emperor was in Japan, here’s a scene from Hiroshima in the aftermath of the bombing:

    Near the site of Hiroshima Castle four men staggered through the burning streets with a massive portrait of the Emperor; they had rescued it from the inferno of the 2nd General Army communications center and were trying to get it safely out of the city. At the sight of the picture, lines of apathetic refugees broke into cries of “The Emperor’s portrait!” The burned and bleeding saluted or bowed low. Those unable to get to their feet clasped hands in prayer. As the picture was trundled through Asano Sentei Park to a waiting boat moored on the river, towering pine trees flamed into torches. Wounded soldiers on the banks, waiting to be rescued, struggled to attention and saluted as the boat headed upstream for safety through a shower of flaming debris.

  2. Who gave Truman the order to use the bombs? Wasn’t Truman a Jewish servant like Trump and all the others? Does anybody have information on this subject?

  3. Is there anything more evil than the american empire?You can combine all evils ever existed in the whole human history except that of american empire, and still it seems like a children’s play compared to the wickedness of what the american empire has done for humanity. I don’t think this is exaggeration. East Asia, Europe, Central Asia, Africa, Latin America, everywhere everything everyone has been tortured, exploited, brainwashed, enslaved by the most disgusting and wicked way possible by the american empire. I can’t even properly describe it. Even satan will get sick of the american empire. It’s.. human language is too innocent to properly describe america.

    God bless China, Russia, Iran, or anyone who would eliminates the USA from the earth. On the bright side, humanity would never see anything more evil than this ever, because it is just impossible to be more evil than american empire.

  4. @Thorfinnsson

    When I lived in Tokyo, Japan in the mid-70’s, a Japanese friend laughingly told me that Japanese “country types” (specifically those living in isolated mountain villages) still believed that the Emperor was a god and that, as such, believed that he “didn’t have to eat or drink or go to the bathroom.” He found that incredibly funny but I could only think that this sort of mentality was widespread in and before WW2 and that’s why the Japanese were so fanatical with their Emperor worship.

    • Replies: @Joe Paluka
  5. Firebombing open cities with civilians, old men and women, children, is about as barbaric as it gets. It’s easy to drop bombs and not see what happens to those people, vs. fighting enemy soldiers, often up close, in the field of battle.

    • Agree: Jack McArthur, Robjil
    • Replies: @yurivku
    , @Deep Thought
  6. It is important to remember that despite their novelty, the destruction caused by the atomic bombs dropped on Japan was not much greater than that wrought by the massive air raids the USAF launched against Tokyo, Nagoya, and other cities in World War II.

    What is different is that all this destructive power was concentrated in a single weapon, which ultimately lessened the huge cost of building and arming entire air fleets in order to obliterate enemy population centers. This is the unspeakable evil of atomic weapons and their far deadlier nuclear successors: they were developed primarily to reduce the cost of mass murder. And here some of us are, all these years later, congratulating ourselves still on our Yankee ingenuity and courage at wisely saving a buck during our most enthusiastic overseas killing spree, a grotesque race war against a foe uniformly depicted in the American news media of the day as animalistic and subhuman.

    Remember the bombing campaign against Japan was halted for just a few days after the atomic attacks. It resumed when surrender negotiations were not moving quickly enough to suit the US. Final air attacks on Tokyo in 1945 were by a fleet of 60 B-29s on Aug. 8, and by 70 B-29s on Aug. 10. On Aug. 14, full-scale raids resumed with 828 B-29s escorted by 186 fighters (for a total of 1,014 aircraft) attacking Iwakuni, Osaka and Tokoyama, and at night the cities of Kumagaya and Isesaki were firebombed. In the final action of the air war, two B-32s did a “photo reconnaissance run” over Tokyo on Aug 18. and were heavily damaged by surviving Japanese fighter defenses.

    In 1853 US Admiral Perry threatened Japan with annihilation if she did not allow US merchants to trade on the very unfavorable terms they dictated. Ninety years later…

  7. @Pierre Simon

    He rushed to recognise the State of Israel. Both types of atomic bombs have Jewish fathers. Oppenheimer did not have to quote a foreign text “I am death, the destroyer” for as Jesus said to the Jews:

    You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

  8. Pericles says:

    “Wow, that’s an odd coincidence,” I thought when I learned Nagasaki is the historical home of Christianity in Japan.

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
  9. Pearl: Fked around

    A-bombs: Found out

  10. Kevin, why didn’t you ask your guest holohoaxer about the Auschwitz Symphony Orchestra? Do they get to make up their own facts?

  11. The racial savagery of the Japanese towards prisoners, including wicked torture, murder, and in some cases cannibalism, demanded they be taught a lesson they wouldn’t forget. Seeing their war criminals on the end of a rope, their swords broken, and their sovereign land occupied did the trick.

    Modern Japan has snapped itself out of the barbaric. martial imperial culture of the pre-war years, and found grace in isolationist technological modernity.

    Unconditional surrender following mass destruction did them a world of good. Negotiated surrender wouldn’t have been sufficient to bring about the changes needed.

  12. Studies have shown that if the Japanese had not capitulated when they did and The U.S. Army Air Forces had proceeded with a planned strategic bombing campaign against the Japanese rail/transport system – then hundreds of thousands if not millions of Japanese would have starved to death by the end of 1945.

    Most of the rice that feeds the country needs to move from the North to the South.

    The atomic bombs saved lives. Awkward but true.

    Why is it never Japanese who voice these accusations of “barbarism”? Why is it always angry white guys who haven’t lost any relatives to combat in Pacific?

    • Replies: @raga10
    , @Biff
    , @Thorfinnsson
  13. Mulegino1 says:

    The bombing of Guernica is only remembered because the huckster Picasso opportunistically and cynically turned his hideous painting of a bullfight into a leftist cause celebre. The real event was a legitimate siege bombing in support of advancing Nationalist troops.

    The atomic bombings were merely a culmination of the criminal and barbaric area bombing of German cities begun under the warmonger Churchill and mad Bomber Harris- outlined in the (((Lindemann ))) Plan. That plan called for targeting working class neighborhoods in order to increase the number of fatalities, since they were more densely populated.

    By Assistant Secretary of the Air Ministry Spaight’s own proud admission, it was the RAF that initiated this criminal method of warfare, not the Luftwaffe, which did not even have a fleet of heavy bombers, and which considered its primary mission as combat support and logistics.

    America’s own USAAF eventually adopted this policy in Europe, and continued it against an already militarily defeated and practically defenseless Japan.

    Le May admitted that he and his cohort of mass murdering airmen would have been executed as war criminals had the Allies lost the war.

  14. There was no reason to have unconditional surrender of either Japan or Germany. Losts of people died unneccessarily.

    • Replies: @lloyd
  15. @Mulegino1

    possibly one of the most depressing chats I’ve heard in a long time.

    in fact, Unz.com is rapidly becoming a very depressing place.

    we know that windbags are going to spew lies and dogmatized narratives on Establishment media.

    Unz is supposed to be the place where informed contrarians meet to add to the information, affirm and encourage their colleagues in telling in as persuasive a manner as possible the Other Side of the Story.

    instead, what we have is sots like Curtin spewing the adversary’s lies in a namby-pamby voice.

    who needs it?

    trying to figure which was the biggest turd Curtin laid: “ex-Nazis planned the bombings that USA carried out,” or “the holohoax narrative is the troof, the whole troof and nothing but the troof.”

    The Dulles brothers were ex-Nazis?
    Kermit Roosevelt in his role in overthrowing Mossadeqh — an ex-Nazi?
    LBJ who oversaw shooting up USS Liberty, killing 34 US military, an ex-Nazi?
    G H W Bush an ex-Nazi?
    Kissinger an ex-Nazi?
    Zbig Brzezinski an ex-Nazi?

    ok everybody, violins in place; 1 – 2 – 3: poor poor jews, toss another billion in to subsidize another holohoax freak show museum.

    • Replies: @Mulegino1
  16. @Pierre Simon

    Eustice Mullins says that the Manhattan Project was a Jew op headed by Bernard Baruch.

    • Replies: @the grand wazoo
  17. @Mulegino1

    iirc Picasso & his close friend Ilya Ehrenburg are buried side by side at Pere Lachaise cemetery in Paris.

    Picasso Is Mourning For Ilya Ehrenburg – The New York Timeshttps://www.nytimes.com › 1967/09/02 › archives › picas…
    PARIS, Sept 1 (Reuters) Pabio Picasso had his telephone cut off today so that he could mourn in private the death of Ilya Ehrenburg.

    Ehrenburg was Stalin’s Communist propagandist who urged Soviet soldiers to Kill Kill Kill Germans, and to rape German women.

    German newspaper writer Julius Stretcher was executed for sting naughty things about Jews.

    Ehrenburg lived to a ripe old age among friends in his newly chosen city, Paris.

    • Agree: Mulegino1
  18. RJJCDA says:

    At the 25th anniversary of the bombings in 1970, Loren van Horn, a British senior officer prisoner at a Japanese run POW camps in Malaya, countered a Japanese professor then touring the U.S claiming that the bombing was unnecessary.

    Read his book: THE PRISONER AND THE BOMB. No sentimental misgivings, just the fact that over 85,000 allied prisoners lived on because of the bomb.

  19. lloyd says: • Website
    @jerrydeanhalleck

    it is always assumed that Japan had to be invaded. The war party in Japan had been deposed and its successor was negotiating an end to the war. What right did the allies have to invade Japan and execute its war leaders? But I have to admit having done that, it was a text book model how to treat a conquered people. McArthur was a genius general and statesman although he did go batty after his great victory at Incheon. In Japan and South Korea, he remains celebrated.

    • Replies: @Jack Sparrow
  20. Mulegino1 says:
    @Insouciant

    It always has to come down to the “but the Holocaust…the Nazis were worse…the Nazis had plans…the Nazis are responsible for all the evil things that the U.S. has done (after May of ’45 of course).”

    These people cannot bring themselves to look at the entire period from 1918-1945 with any objectivity or critical thought.

    Before Trump Derangement Syndrome there was Hitler Derangement Syndrome/Godwin’s Law and it will certainly outlive the former in perpetuity, because its hold on the psyche of the contemporary west has much deeper pseudo-spiritual and psychic roots in its collective (((hive mind))) via its projection by the Jewish collective.

    Every perceived opponent of USRAELI and Jewish cultural and financial hegemony is “the next Hitler,” whether Saddam, Milosevic, Gaddafi, Milosevic, Putin, Chavez, Ahmadinejad, and now, Xi.

    As Emerson said, “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds,” and that certainly applies to our establishment historians and idiot politicians who parrot their rhetoric.

    • Agree: Jack McArthur
  21. Kevin, great guest, and a great ending. I was just telling my brother that a return to God through an organized religion is the only way to save this nation. However we can’t return with the same psychopaths’ running the show. I listed for him the lies we’ve been fed just these past 70 years of my life. And of course it goes back to the beginning. How do feel about the recent change in the Russian constitution? Declaring the Russian Orthodox religion the state religion, and the sanctity of marriage as a union between 1 man and 1 woman, is a good place to start,

    • Replies: @Insouciant
  22. @RecallCarlLevin

    He’s right. Read Major Jordan’s Diary. It’s available on line in pdf. And that’s bullshit that we bombed them to scare the Russians. FDR’s zionist handler Hopkins and the NYC Jews gave all of the Manhattan Project plans to Stalin.
    We Nuked Japan to scare the civilian world. And it worked.

  23. raga10 says:
    @Johnny Rico

    The atomic bombs saved lives. Awkward but true.

    That could be true if dropping the bombs was what caused Japan to surrender, but as many people already pointed out, that is not the case. Japan was already carpet-bombed by conventional weapons, the fact Americans just used something new barely even registered for Japanese leadership.

    What caused Japanese surrender was the decisive action of the Red Army which blitzed through Manchuria, not only obliterating large part of Japanese army that was stationed there but even worse, cutting off all supplies Japan needed to continue fighting.

    This is because for one thing Japan is not rich in natural resources – many of them came from Manchuria. But to make matters even worse Japanese had moved pretty much all of their wartime production to Manchuria because there it was out of reach of American bombers.

    With Manchuria in Soviet hands Japanese forces would now be reduced to being armed with nothing but bamboo sticks in a matter of days – that’s why Japan finally surrendered.

    • Agree: Kevin Barrett
    • Replies: @Kevin Barrett
  24. Anonymous[348] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thorfinnsson

    It was on the anniversary of the expulsion of Freemasons from the Empire, no less. See Joseph Farrell (and Truman’s portrait painting) for more.

  25. Evidence shows clearly that nuclear weapons have never existed. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were only two more horrible urban napalm fire-bombings, less devastating than what hit Tokyo five months earlier – but re-packaged with a fake story of a ‘new awesome weapon’. A Reader’s Digest article in February 1946, even let on that ‘nuclear weapons’ were fake.

    – Hiroshima & Nagasaki were chemical firebombings like Tokyo, Osaka, Yokohama, houses were wood so wiped out
    – Smoking gun on Hiroshima, US records show 66 planes same day & hour sent to firebomb ‘Imabari’ … which no longer existed
    – Mushroom clouds are chemical, nuke explosion videos shown to be fake
    – Swedish engineer Anders Björkman showed for years how nuke bombs are impossible
    – German Jesuit John Siemes in Hiroshima reports many witnesses seeing multiple planes
    – US military witnesses admitted even flag poles still stood under ‘ground zero’, nothing was ‘vapourised’
    – Death penalty was threatened in 1945 for any Japanese or Americans who tried to deny the nuke hoax
    – All 10 historic ‘nuclear powers’ joined in the fake, starting with Stalin’s Russia the ‘Best Enemy Money Can Buy’, getting tech and goodies via Israel during Cold War
    1945 – USA HAS NUCLEAR BOMBS EVERYBODY SUBMIT
    1949 – COMMIE RUSSIA HAS THE BOMB OMG SPEND TRILLIONS
    1952 – UK HAS THE BOMB even tho flat broke
    1960 – FRANCE & DEGAULLE HAVE THE BOMB
    1964 – COMMIE CHINA HAS THE BOMB OMG
    1966 – ISRAEL HAS THE BOMB JEWS WILL SAMSON OPTION EVERYBODY
    1974 – INDIA HAS THE BOMB
    1979 – SOUTH AFRICA HAS THE BOMB & WILL NUKE BLACKS then ‘took nuke bombs apart’ so Mandela wouldn’t reveal the scam
    1998 – PAKISTAN MUSLIMS HAVE THE BOMB & OSAMA OR TERRORISTS MIGHT GET AHOLD OF IT
    2006 – NORTH KOREA CRAZY ASIANS HAVE THE BOMB
    All a big, profitable terror joke by the usual suspects

    • Troll: Mulga Mumblebrain
    • Replies: @Chuck
    , @reiner Tor
    , @Raches
  26. yurivku says:
    @hopeforfuture

    Is there anything more evil than the american empire?

    British empire is no better, its history is a long list of crimes. US is just proper descendant of it.
    I got to think that right for all Anglosaxes.

    • Replies: @Malla
  27. Biff says:
    @Johnny Rico

    The atomic bombs saved lives.

    Like fucking for virginity.

    • LOL: GomezAdddams
  28. yurivku says:
    @Dr. Charles Fhandrich

    It’s easy to drop bombs and not see what happens to those people, vs. fighting enemy soldiers, often up close, in the field of battle.

    In this site the question of responsibility of US people for that crime was arisen not once. And NO ONE of murikans was able to confirm that responsibility. So, I’m sure, they were and always will be stupid criminals and if we allow them, they will do it again and again.

  29. @hopeforfuture

    The American Empire is not rules by Americans but by Jews, it’s the proxy they use to achieve global domination, if anyone can prove me wrong please do.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  30. @the grand wazoo

    “a return to God through an organized religion is the only way to save this nation.”

    Riiiight.

    Opening comments: “USA thinks itself exceptional, chosen. . . . On this belief it goes around the world forcing people to do what USA says [rough interpretation].”

    Closing remarks: “Only return to religion will save USA.”

    ???

    “Exceptionalism” comes from the Hebrew bible.

    Choseness comes from the Old Testament and New Testament.

    Listen to TruNews, Rick Wiles, a renegade evangelical.
    Wiles has spent the last several months vilifying China and urging that “Christians” recognize the “great commission” work to “convert the whole world to Christ.”

    This notion — that Christians should try to convert everyone to Christ, that their religious beliefs were the only valid religious beliefs, are the heart of the problem. This attitude is the essence of what Abraham believed: he had the right, even duty, to “smash the icons” of other people who believed differently from what he, Abraham, concluded was the correct belief.

    “Return to religion” a la Wiles and all other so-called Abrahamics, including Jews and Christians, is the problem, not the solution.

    The problems facing USA are re more focused than Curtin states: the Frankfurt School is responsible for most of the social distortions that are wrecking American society. Take that on, Prof. Curtin.

    That and the soul-crushing dishonesty that perpetuates teaching our children that evil Nazis killed 6 million jooz.

    With all of his academic masteries , Curtin seems not to have noticed that the outfit that is the source of Choseness is the same one that operates “by way of deception.”

    • Replies: @the grand wazoo
  31. @Pericles

    Nagasaki was an alternate target for that day. Kokura was the intended target, but cloud cover meant an appropriate aiming point could not be found.

    Bock’s Car therefore proceeded to Nagasaki, where conditions were also not optimal, but Major Chuck Sweeney made the decision to drop by radar.

    This was in contravention of orders to drop the bomb in the ocean if no good visual aiming point could be found. Sweeney considered this a waste.

    • Agree: GomezAdddams
  32. @beavertales

    This rather depends on what conditions were part of the surrender. The army was interested in insisting on conditions like no occupation forces being dispatched to Japan and that Japanese troops be disarmed by their own officers, which of course were not acceptable.

    But well in advance of the atomic bombings and Soviet declaration of war the peace feelers the Japanese were frantically advancing via back channels (and trying, but failing, to do via the Soviets) effectively accepted the entire Potsdam Declaration with the sole exception that the Japanese wished to maintain the imperial throne.

    In the end MacArthur maintained the Emperor anyway, which was the correct decision.

    Thus the war was needlessly prolonged because of what amounted to stubbornness and, as has been much noted, a likely desire to impress the Soviets. While the Soviets may well have been impressed, prolonging the war resulted in the Soviet entry into the Pacific War and perhaps hastened the Soviet development of their own atomic bomb.

  33. @Johnny Rico

    The atomic bombs saved lives under the condition that only an unconditional surrender was acceptable. Japan was ready to end the war prior to the bombings.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  34. @raga10

    By spring 1945 Japan had already expressed its willingness to surrender unconditionally in all respects except one: The emperor should not be overtly overthrown and humiliated. The US responded by trumpeting “unconditional surrender” implying it intended to overthrow and humiliate Hirohito. But that was a lie designed to ensure that Japan would not surrender, so that the atomic bombs could be used to send a message to the Russians.

    Japan surrendered when Russian victories in Manchuria portended the loss of Hokkaido and the partition of Japan if it didn’t quickly surrender to the Americans. The bombs had nothing whatsoever to do with Japan’s decision to surrender.

  35. @Pierre Simon

    The thing is, the rulers themselves don’t do much except talk and shuffle papers. They don’t get their hands dirty; instead, they get the masses of morally incompetent peasants to do all the dirty work. If “Americans” stopped cooperating with their Satanic rulers, the agenda of global domination and control would come to an end.

  36. Personally, I would have ordered the bombs to be dropped on the imperial palace in Tokyo. This followed by persistent chemical weapons such as mustard. All this followed by the actual Operation Olympic which was the assault on the home islands. I’ve actually seen the plans at the National Archives and it would have been horrific. With these assaults, I’d have ordered the use of even more chem with artillery thus eliminating perhaps 20-30% or more of the entire population. If you fight, you fight to erase. Roman Rules apply, no peace until all you hear is the wind and a few birds. Geno-Cide…the eco friendly ethnic cleanser, now available in a 64 ounce spray/pump bottle 🙂

  37. Chuck says:
    @brabantian

    But muh teevee! Why would jews lie to me!

  38. @Pierre Simon

    Who —why God of course—–

  39. @beavertales

    Neigbhour had malaria and was detained in Hong Kong Christmas 1942 and sent Burma for work–while there he spent some nights in small coup with hands tied behind back and mosquitos buzzing. He never spoke much about this time except on odd occassions when he had had one too many and opened up —Kafka was nothing by comparison–

  40. @Thorfinnsson

    Japan was ready to end the war prior to the bombings.

    With the help of the then-neutral Soviets. But we didn’t listen.

    Besides, the true holocaust was done with “conventional” bombing– which didn’t exist when the high command was in academy. The atomics were just lagniappe.

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
  41. @hopeforfuture

    Americans were uninterested in war in 1914 and 1939. Others bitched about that.

    Can’t please anybody!

  42. The Satanic label can be applied to the USA’s aggressions since 1776. What else was Dresden, the fire-bombing of Tokyo, carefully prepared for years before WW2, Operations Phoenix and Condor, the use of death-squad stooges throughout Latin America, the ‘turkey-shoot’ on the Kuwait-Basra Highway in 1991, murderous sanctions that killed 500,000 children under five in Iraq etc. You can go on all day. Satanic actually does not do it justice.

    • Agree: Proximaking
  43. @Thorfinnsson

    A more appropriate critique of wartime American leaders is that they needlessly prolonged the war

    Needlessly entered it. Our neutrality was a lie by 1941. The Japanese were invited to attack us.

    They just didn’t RSVP. Thus, a “sneak” attack.

    • Thanks: Raches
    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
  44. @beavertales

    Cobblers! The US ensured that the Imperial fascist system continued, under a veil of ‘democracy’ where the one party of business and submission to the USA has rule continually since 1955. The execution of a few patsies was accompanied by the return of Imperial apparatchiki to ALL positions of power. And as Abe et al show, the revanchist, fascist, genocide-denying spirit is alive and well in Japan.

  45. Malla says:
    @yurivku

    British empire is no better, its history is a long list of crimes.

    What crimes?

    • Replies: @Spender_CGB
  46. Malla says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    so that the atomic bombs could be used to send a message to the Russians.

    Really, then later the Americans gave the Soviets, Nuclear technology.

    • Disagree: mike99588
    • Replies: @Kevin Barrett
  47. Malla says:
    @beavertales

    The racial savagery of the Japanese towards prisoners, including wicked torture, murder, and in some cases cannibalism, demanded they be taught a lesson they wouldn’t forget.

    A lot of it, was hyped up WW2 Allied propaganda. And Indian judge, Radhagobind Pal, in the Tokyo kangaroo carnival court dismissed most of those allegations as trumped up charges.
    Japan’s main crime was that it opposed the spread of Communism in East Asia which the American deep state wanted too.

    • Troll: GazaPlanet
  48. @Non PC Infidel

    Nothing’s new under the sun. A large number of young white men feel this same way about black sports stars and black music entertainers like Kanye West.

  49. @Malla

    What crimes?

    Being white is a crime in the eyes of a progressive.

    • Agree: mike99588
  50. mike99588 says:

    The Soviets were given pretty much full access to most of US tech until mid war when Gen Groves shut the Manhattan project door in front.

    However, Soviet espionage kept most developments flowing. Stalin probably wanted to laugh in Truman’s face at the Potsdam conference when Truman was being secretive about the A bomb.
    “Fuch(s) you”

    The only question is when in 1945 Truman came to know as much as about the bomb project as Stalin did and which news then lagged by weeks or maybe months.

  51. mike99588 says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    It seems unclear to me that Japan was thoroughly beaten enough for the US public’s policy purposes. (Yeah, yeah we all know who’s in control too but its not a perfect world…).

    The US public shouldn’t and wouldn’t tolerate a Japan that might spring back militarily, with some “stab in the back” or “premature surrender” attitudes in 20 years and then sneeked into nukes a la Israel, Pakistan, etc. So we split the difference as to Hirohito, they got to keep him and he was not too publicly humiliated, treated with kid gloves by MacArthur. But Japan WAS fundamentally transformed if not totally rooted. Of course, the pink New Dealer content was too high but…

    We killed or suicided more of the old hard liners going an extra 6 months with “our” harder line (unenforced) than an early peace treaty. We might not have hanged enough hard liners but it’s hard to cut the cream out of milk with a knife, in a hurry.

    Japan at ***every level** knew it was totally whooped, and I think that was good for them as well as us, even if they had their fingers crossed. No young officers bullshit, like almost stopped Hirohito’s broadcast.

    Portraying Japan as merely an anti-Communist victim of the tribe/CCP/CCCP is a little too revisionist rich for me. Japan was a rabid colonizer that meant to be a genocidal superpower. Frankly, I think asshole Truman saved Japanese and American lives, then until now, in this instance.

  52. @Malla

    The Rosenbergs, not the Americans, gave the Soviets nuclear technology.

    • Replies: @Malla
  53. Malla says:
    @mike99588

    From the Book: America Has no Enemies in Asia written in 1938
    https://digitalrepository.trincoll.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1047&context=moore

    The Soviet Union has long sought control of China. It has backed the Communist faction within China. Japan opposes the prospect of a red China. This makes Japan an enemy of the Soviet Union.’ The Soviet Union wants American aid against Japan. This partly explains why reds were eager to see conflict between China and Japan. Such a war, it was hoped, would ally America and Moscow. Warrant for this statement may be found in writings of bolshevik leaders, too lengthy to quote here.”

    …snip….
    “In 1904-05 US papers lavishly favored Japan. Many Americans didn’t know then that such press praise for Japan was partly stirred by organized forces here working for revolution Russia. Above item appeared 12 years later, in 1917. Backing Japan to defeat the Czar from without aided revolutionaries seeking his overthrow from within. Such facts show how newspaper campaigns of hate or praise may be influenced by interests not suspected at the time. U. S. papers on the whole favored Japan as long as Japan opposed Czarist Russia, but turned anti-Japanese after 1917 when Japan became a potential enemy of revolutionary Russia.””

    • Agree: Arthur MacBride
  54. Malla says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    They did give some tech during the war. Major Jordan’s Diary.

  55. Malla says:
    @mike99588

    Japan was a rabid colonizer that meant to be a genocidal superpower

    Not true at all.


    The Politically Incorrect Truth About Japan in World War II Part I


    The Politically Incorrect Truth About Japan in World War II Part II


    The Politically Incorrect Truth About Japan in World War II Part III

  56. The Japanese military in the 1930s was just as murderous in its invasions of China and Indonesia as the American military in the 1940s. Curtin doesn’t understand those times and the feelings of Americans at that time. This is just another example of the anti-Americanism that has now become “politically correct” but is ignorant of history. All countries have been created through defeating others. Curtin is quite ignorant of world history.

    • Replies: @Malla
  57. @Dr. Charles Fhandrich

    Firebombing open cities with civilians, old men and women, children, is about as barbaric as it gets. It’s easy to drop bombs and not see what happens to those people, vs. fighting enemy soldiers, often up close, in the field of battle.

    This is really “up close” but it was not against well-armed enemy soldiers. The japs did not just kill for the sake of killing, they killed defenceless old men, women, children and babies. They did NOT just kill the defenceless but they deliberately killed in ways that MAXIMISED human suffering!!!

    http://www.battlingbastardsbataan.com/som.htm

    “Women were raped and sliced with bayonets from groin to throat and left to bleed to death in the hot sun.

    “Children were seized by the legs and had their heads bashed against the wall. Babies were tossed into the air and caught on bayonets. Unborn fetuses were gouged out with bayonets from pregnant women.”

    That was in Manila alone. In China the atrocities were a thousand times greater in scale and intensity.

    Ever heard of Unit 731?

    • Replies: @Mulegino1
  58. @Thorfinnsson

    It was FDR who originally called for unconditional surrender. Truman was just being consistent with American policy.

  59. @Observator

    After spending two billion dollars on the bomb the USG could not have avoided using it. Two billion was an enormous sum in those days and the Democrats would have paid dearly for not using it, given the circumstances of the time. Unz Review seems to revel in authors with their Monday morning quarterbacking comments.

  60. Malla says:
    @phillip sawicki

    The Japanese military in the 1930s was just as murderous in its invasions of China

    What bullshit. Japan had no interest in attacking America, FDR had.

    • Replies: @phillip sawicki
  61. @Kevin Barrett

    The bombs were terrible, and the bombs didn’t impact Japan’s willingness to end the war.

    Ooookay…

    The Soviet invasion did indeed hasten Japan’s surrender, and in part concerns about Hokkaido played a role. But it was more instrumental in that Japan’s leaders had been pursuing a forlorn hope of having the Soviet Union mediate a peace agreement in order to get better terms. With the Soviet entry into the war, this hope was dashed.

    While it’s certainly possible that American leaders dragged out the war in order to be able to use the atomic bomb, I’m not aware of any archival evidence that supports this. It should also be noted that some senior American leaders were opposed to using the bomb. Truman for his part flatly insisted on Japan accepting the Potsdam Declaration.

    There’s a certain type of atomophobe who both deplores the bomb and insists that this exceptionally powerful weapon had no political impact. The position is contradictory. In fact news of the atomic bombing of Hiroshima immediately strengthened the peace party in Japan.

    The Chief Cabinet Secretary, Hisatsune Sakomizu, consider the news of the atomic bombing an immediate golden opportunity to end the war. He immediately telephoned the Prime Minister urging an end to the war. Sakomizu had previously authored a study requested by the Prime Minister showing that it would be impossible for Japan to continue the war for more than a few months.

    Foreign Minister Togo’s reaction to the atomic bombing of Hiroshima was to suggest that the Potsdam Declaration be accepted at once.

    The army continued its hostility to surrender, and as such the immediate policy consequence was that Japan resumed its fruitless quest to have the USSR broker a peace. Foreign Minister Togo sent ever more frantic cables to the Ambassador and in Moscow, who was finally received after much Soviet dithering. At this meeting Molotov coolly informed Japan of its imminent declaration of war.

    The atomic bombing also motivated the USSR to further hasten its entry into the Pacific War, which had originally been scheduled to begin several weeks later.

    On August 9th, the Japanese cabinet met again. They had just learned of the Soviet declaration of war, and prior to the meeting Prime Minister Suzuki had secured the Emperor’s assent to peace. During the meeting Nagasaki was bombed, and news conveyed to the cabinet officials. The army continued to resist peace, but were dismissed as hopelessly unrealistic. Finally the Lord Privy Seal suggested that the issue be put to bed by having the Emperor himself make the decision, which was duly done.

    Prime Minister Suzuki obtained an audience with the Emperor, and the Emperor immediately made his will crystal clear:

    “I have given serious thought to the situation prevailing at home and abroad and have concluded that continuing the war means destruction for the nation and a prolongation of bloodshed and cruelty in the world.” The others listened with heads bowed. “I cannot bear to see my innocent people suffer any longer. Ending the war is the only way to restore world peace and to relieve the nation from the terrible distress with which it is burdened.”

    “It pains me,” the Emperor was saying, “to think of those who served me so faithfully, the soldiers and sailors who have been killed or wounded in far-off battles, the families who have lost all their worldly goods—and often their lives as well—in the air raids at home. It goes without saying that it is unbearable for me to see the brave and loyal fighting men of Japan disarmed. It is equally unbearable that others who have rendered me devoted service should now be punished as instigators of the war. Nevertheless, the time has come when we must bear the unbearable. When I recall the feelings of my Imperial Grandsire, the Emperor Meiji, at the time of the Triple Intervention [by Russia, Germany and France in 1895], I swallow my own tears and give my sanction to the proposal to accept the Allied proclamation on the basis outlined by the Foreign Minister.”

    -Emperor Hirohito

    So what happened was that the atomic bombing strengthened Japan’s peace party and hastened the Soviet entry into the war, which dashed Japan’s last hope of securing at least some terms. This, at the very least, hastened Japan’s acceptance of the Potsdam Declaration by several weeks. The most expeditious possible unconditional surrender of Japan was America’s goal, and thus the atomic bombings fulfilled their purpose.

    That this purpose was dubious and even foolish is a different matter.

    The idea that the atomic bombs had “nothing” to do with the end of the war is a cope from atomophobes and critics of the American empire.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  62. @Reg Cæsar

    The Japanese indeed wished to have the then-neutral Soviets mediate a peace agreement.

    But the girl wasn’t interested.

    The USSR had already promised the Allies to enter the Pacific War, and Stalin was intent on recouping losses suffered by the Russian Empire forty years previously. The Soviets ignored all Japanese efforts to this effect.

    Japan was however conducting back channel negotiations with the allies, including with Allen Dulles, but Japan was unwilling to accept the Potsdam Declaration in full. While Truman was less set on unconditional surrender than his demented and treasonous predecessor, ultimately he decided to insist on full acceptance of the Potsdam Declaration.

  63. @Reg Cæsar

    Roosevelt was obsessed with entering the war against Germany, but not necessarily Japan. He certainly pursued a pro-Chinese and anti-Japanese policy, but made belated efforts to prevent the outbreak of the Pacific War.

    In particular he assented to a Japanese proposal relayed by Ambassador Grew that Roosevelt personally send a message to the Emperor, which both Grew and senior Japanese officials (including Prince Fumimaro Konoye) believed could be decisive.

    What Hull and Roosevelt did not know is that the Japanese had set for themselves a ticking clock, and Roosevelt’s direct overture came too late.

    Also, it should be pointed out that the oil embargo against Japan was not Roosevelt’s intention. His asset freeze order was liberally interpreted by Dean Acheson, who ordered the embargo. Other administration officials such as Harold Ickes and Robert Morgenthau (influenced by Soviet agent “Harry Dexter White” who received a similar proposal from his handlers) had long been pushing for such action.

    Roosevelt declined to rescind this order as he believed would make the administration appear erratic and weak.

    • Replies: @Malla
  64. SafeNow says:
    @Mulegino1

    “Le May admitted that he and his cohort of mass murdering airmen would have been executed as war criminals had the Allies lost the war.”

    I never knew that. Maybe I wouldn’t be here. My father was in the Army Air Force. His job was to brief and debrief bomber pilots. Factories, railways, and ports, using special maps. He never mentioned the civilian aspect, and of course I never asked.

    “Who gets executed?” is interesting and important. Masaharu Homma, the commanding general overseeing Bataan, established at his trial that he knew nothing about the death march. He was executed anyway – it was his command. But in recognition of his ignorance, the US granted his request to be executed by “musketry.”

    • Agree: Mulegino1
  65. @lloyd

    The reason Japan had to be invaded and to surrender unconditionally is obvious; SONY, Honda, Toyota, Kubota, Yamaha, Subaru, etc. The west wanted access to Japanese labor and they wanted it good and cheap. Western banking money flowed into Japan and western blue collar jobs flowed out of the U.S. Same thing happened with Germany to a lesser extent. I remember growing up in the 60s that everything was made in Japan. A negotiated surrender was not going to include access to Japanese labor for western finance capitalism.

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
  66. @Jack Sparrow

    Sony, Honda, and Subaru did not exist in 1945. Toyota was a small, failing motor company whose parent company feared using its own name (Toyoda) for it.

    There was no outsourcing to postwar Japan nor an influx of “Western banking money”. Japan strictly controlled capital inflows and prohibited foreign ownership. Only in the late 1970s did Japan acquiesce to foreign pressure by liberalizing rules for sectors where foreign investment was exceedingly unlikely (e.g. for breakfast cereal, which was not consumed in Japan).

    Foreign trade in those days was dominated by finished goods produced using national supply chains (and, of course, raw materials). Japan, Inc. emerged as a successful competitive threat to American industry rather than as a lucrative labor arbitrage location.

    Offshoring’s early roots were in places like Taiwan, South Korea, Hong Kong, and Mexico.

    Germany for its part was already before the war a highly prosperous and technologically advanced country. After the war it merely reconstituted itself.

    • Replies: @lloyd
  67. Malla says:
    @Thorfinnsson

    FDR was planning a sneak attack on Japan before Pearl Harbour attack.

    JB-355. FDR’s plan to use American merceneries to use aircrafts with Chinese roundells to attack Japan, way before WW2.

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
  68. @Malla

    Please post links to text articles. Video peasants must be executed.

    Here are some links for other elevated beings who refuse to stoop to video peasantry:

    https://codoh.com/library/document/roosevelts-secret-pre-war-plan-to-bomb-japan/en/

    https://www.wearethemighty.com/mighty-history/secret-plan-firebomb-japan/

  69. @Malla

    Ever hear of the “Rape of Nanking” by Japanese soldiers? Have you read any history of Japanese invasions of other countries in the 1930s? Obviously not,

  70. @Observator

    if nuclear weapons had not been used to end WW2,

    they would long since have been used to begin WW3.

    and all U moralists

    wouldn’t even be here.

  71. @Thorfinnsson

    While it’s certainly possible that American leaders dragged out the war in order to be able to use the atomic bomb, I’m not aware of any archival evidence that supports this.

    What a ridiculous statement. What kind of “archival evidence” would you expect? A transcript of a meeting where mass murderer Truman is on record saying “Hey guys, we know that Japan is ready to surrender if we agree not to try the emperor as a war criminal, but let’s make the wording of the Potsdam Declaration seem threatening to the emperor, which will delay their surrender. And while they await clarification from us on the status of the emperor, and we’ll portray the delay as unreasonable stalling and drop the bombs, thus scaring the shit out of the USSR…”

    By that standard we’d have to agree that U.S. “government” attacks on Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria etc. were all done in good faith, if anything just a little misguided, right?

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
  72. @phillip sawicki

    Ever hear of the “Rape of Nanking” by Japanese soldiers? Have you read any history of Japanese invasions of other countries in the 1930s? Obviously not,

    Irrelevant. What n**s did to ch***s was never our concern. Not worth the dirt in a single GI’s fingernails, let alone his life.

  73. @phillip sawicki

    Here is some reading/photo’s on the “Rape of Nanking”.

    Nb Very emotional title, like another Big Lie, but as fake as the “Tiananmen Sq Massacre”. The author Iris Chang can’t comment b/c she “committed suicide”.

    https://ww2truth.com/2017/12/02/the-so-called-nanking-massacre-was-a-fabrication/

    https://nipponaikoku.livejournal.com/686.html

  74. @Observator

    What is different is that all this destructive power was concentrated in a single weapon, which ultimately lessened the huge cost of building and arming entire air fleets in order to obliterate enemy population centers.

    Which could have been demonstrated atop Mt Fuji, within sight of the Imperial Palace, to even greater effect, rather than upon women and children.

    The only argument that dropping them on cities made the difference is that it would make the Japanese believe that our moral standards were all show and we were even more Machiavellian than they.

    But that argument only works if the charge is true.

    Ironically– or cynically– Truman wrote in 1947 that America was a “Christian country”, after he himself had shown that to be false.

  75. lloyd says: • Website
    @Thorfinnsson

    Germany’s parasitical Jewish population had departed to new shores. There were ever only about half a million of them but parallel to America today they practically ran the Weimar Republic. Her youth had been disciplined in training camps and the war. What was left of it quickly turned to reconstruction and after the Marshall plan received plentiful money in the victor’s dollars. East Germany lacked the Marshall plan but the discipline of Germans allied with their Communist autocracy revived them. Half of German industry been destroyed by the war, meant half of it was not.

    • Replies: @Resartus
  76. The Rape of Nanjing and the cruelty and sadism visited on the Chinese people by the Japanese Army was pretty horrendous, and many in China think Japan had it coming (firebombing and nuking).
    I think it was J Derbyshire’s Chinese wife who said in a discussion of dropping the bombs on
    Hiroshima and Nakasaki: “Why only two?” I’ve met lots of older Chinese with similar sentiments.

  77. Mulegino1 says:
    @Deep Thought

    So mass murder of civilians on a scale of much greater magnitude is okay as long as it is carried out from a high altitude?

    Everyone knows that the Japanese could be very brutal on the ground. So could the Soviets- and the Western allies. How many have heard of the mass rape carried out by the Free French Forces against the women of the villages around Monte Cassino, or about the Dachau Massacre in which convalescing hospital patients were murdered by the sainted G.I.’s?

    The reason for all the atrocity propaganda against the Germans- especially against the Germans- was to detract from the savage brutality of the Allies, a.k.a. “the liberators.”

    • Agree: Proximaking
    • Replies: @Deep Thought
  78. Resartus says:
    @lloyd

    East Germany lacked the Marshall plan but the discipline of Germans allied with their Communist autocracy revived them. Half of German industry been destroyed by the war, meant half of it was not.

    More of East Germany’s Economic output, went to Moscow than was used to rebuild the country….

  79. JackOH says:

    The father of a friend of mine served under MacArthur in the Philippines. His (the father’s) personal back story sort of suggests the enormous complexity of the world we live in.

    His family was Slovak and emigrated from the Habsburg monarchy to the States before 1914. After WWI, they returned to the Versailles-created Czechoslovakia, the Czechoslovakia with all those mouthy Germans caught in a government they had no say in determining. Their Czechoslovak return didn’t work out. They returned to the States. Steady work was scarce, so in the late 1930s my friend’s dad enlisted in the U. S. Army to get a regular pay check.

    He saw MacArthur leaving the Philippines at a distance. Captive of the Japanese, he served as a slave laborer near Nagasaki in a copper mine.

    When interviewed by a local newspaper in the 1960s on one of those anniversary dates (V-J, Dec. 7th), his language regarding the Japanese was so violent the paper published nothing of it.

    He remained in the Army Reserve after WWII, and in the mid-1960s he was invited to go active to serve in Vietnam. He declined.

    He worked as a mailman. Through an unusual combination of modest living, personal longevity, a permissive environment for union aggressiveness, his second job in the Reserve, his widow, probably in her 90s, is worth close to \$1 million.

  80. Malla says:
    @phillip sawicki

    The Nanking Massacre was a myth created by the KMT with some Western agents to pull the heart strings of the Western populations against Japan. This is admitted by many nationalists.

    Nanking Masacre: Hyped up historical fabrication.

    Biased Reports of John Rabe

    Masaaki Tanaka, the ex-secretary of General Iwane Matsui, claims that there are many contradictions in John Rabe’s descriptions. For instance, according to him, General Matsui ordered a cease-fire on December 9, distributed to the city surrender recommendation handbills, and waited until noon of December 10 for the answer. Tanaka then points out, “Rabe wrote in his diary that the combat was continuing and Rabe did not mention anything about the cease-fire or the handbills.”

    Rabe wrote that he saw here and there “dead women who had canes rammed in their vaginas”; however, such a practice was Chinese, not Japanese.

    James McCallum, a medical doctor in Nanking, wrote in his diary on December 29, 1937, “We have had some very pleasant Japanese who have treated us with courtesy and respect. Occasionally I have seen a Japanese helping some Chinese, or picking up a Chinese baby to play with it.” However, Rabe did not write any such things, and only wrote that the Safety Zone had been like a hell full of fire and rape every day. Tanaka thus argues that Rabe’s descriptions are not reliable. Tanaka writes, “Rabe’s descriptions were very biased fishy stories. I think I can understand the reason why Adolf Hitler did not trust his report, but rather imprisoned him.”

    Professor Higashinakano also points out that James McCallum wrote in his diary on January 8, 1938 that he had heard a Chinese refugee testify, “I can prove that the rape, looting and arson were committed by Chinese soldiers, not Japanese soldiers”; however, Rabe reported as if all of the rape, looting and arson had been committed by only Japanese soldiers. Higashinakano claims that Rabe’s report was a similar-natured one to the anti-Japanese maneuvering of the Chinese officers he had sheltered.

    P. Scharfienberg, the secretary general of the German Embassy to China, who returned to Nanking on January 9, 1938, tried to investigate himself the facts about the alleged Japanese atrocities mentioned in Rabe’s report. Scharfienberg wrote to the German Embassy at Hankow on February 10:

    “Rabe is still actively trying to counter the bloody excesses of Japanese looters, which have unfortunately increased of late. To my mind, this should not concern us Germans, particularly since one can clearly see that the Chinese, once left to depend solely on the Japanese, immediately fraternize. And as for all these excesses, one hears only one side of it, after all.”

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  81. Malla says:
    @phillip sawicki

    http://www2.biglobe.ne.jp/~remnant/nankingm.htm
    What Actually Occurred in Nanking

    At the Battle of Shanghai in 1937, when the Chinese military of more than 30,000 soldiers attacked the Japanese settlements in Shanghai, many people were killed, not only Japanese, but also many Chinese and Westerners. That was the beginning of the Sino-Japanese war. To stop the Chinese attack and the war, Japan decided to occupy Nanking, the then capital of the Republic of China. During the battle, every civilian who remained in Nanking took refuge in the Safety Zone, which was specially set up within the walls of the city. The Japanese military did not attack it, and no civilian was killed.

    Until the time of the Japanese occupation of Nanking, the Chinese military had committed numerous bad deeds such as plunder and rape among citizens. The citizens who had abhorred them welcomed the entry of the Japanese military into Nanking, giving cheers and rejoicing (see the picture at the top of this page).

    Just before the Japanese occupation, the population of the city was about 200,000. One month after the occupation, many Chinese citizens came back to Nanking learning that peace had returned, and the population increased to about 250,000. Newspapers in those days had numerous photos of Chinese citizens who had come back to Nanking and lived peacefully, buying, selling and smiling with Japanese soldiers.

    In the battle of Nanking, many Chinese soldiers discarded their military uniforms to run away, killed Chinese civilians to take off civilian clothes, and hid themselves among Nanking citizens. Espy, the American vice-consul at Nanking, and others witnessed these scenes. Those who massacred Chinese people were in fact Chinese soldiers. The Chinese military in those days was rather a crowd of robbers, than to be called a disciplined military. They plundered Chinese villages of foods, raped women and burnt the villages. Civilians who were killed in and around Nanking were mostly killed by the Chinese military. There are many testimonies and evidence about it.

    Furthermore, many of the Westerners, who took care of the Nanking Safety Zone, sheltered Chinese military officers secretly, breaking the agreement with the Japanese military to be neutral. Many of the Chinese soldiers raped Chinese women at places, and did many other atrocities, putting them on an act of the Japanese military.

    The Westerners in Nanking repeatedly reported the alleged Japanese atrocities, such as numerous rapes, killings and robberies to Western countries (especially to the USA) until January 4, 1938, for the Westerners had ever believed the atrocities were done by the Japanese; however, on that day, the Chinese soldiers whom the Westerners had sheltered were arrested by the Japanese military. The Westerners were so embarrassed to see the Chinese soldiers confessing that they had done those atrocities, and had blamed the Japanese military for their attacks. The New York Times reported it.

  82. Malla says:
    @phillip sawicki

    The same arrests of Chinese soldiers took place on Jan. 25 and Feb 17, 1938, etc. After those, the atrocities in Nanking stopped. People in Nanking got peace and order. Most of the Westerners, too, stopped talking about Japanese atrocities. Thus, the Chinese soldiers whom the Westerners sheltered were in fact doing such atrocities in Nanking. The sheltered Chinese soldiers also had told lies to the Westerners that the Japanese were doing various atrocities at places, and the Westerners, believing their lies, had reported those to the US, etc., and provoked strong anti-Japanese feelings there.

    These Westerners’ reports are often referred to still today as the evidence of Japanese atrocities. However, they were thus not the evidence of Japanese atrocities, but the evidence of the Chinese atrocities and their anti-Japanese maneuverings. Other than those Chinese soldiers whom the Westerners sheltered, there were also many other Chinese soldiers hiding in the Nanking Safety Zone, wearing civilian clothes and hiding weapons to prepare urban warfare. The Japanese military found out and arrested these illegitimate soldiers. Rebellious ones were executed by the Japanese military; however, these executions were recognized as legitimate under international law.

    It is also a fact that there were around ten or several tens cases of small crimes such as plunder and rape committed by Japanese soldiers in Nanking. However, these were similar to the crimes which soldiers of other countries also committed in occupied territories, and the Japanese criminals were strictly punished.

    There were such things, but the Japanese military did not massacre anyone in Nanking. The Japanese military rather did many humane aid activities to Nanking citizens and POWs. There was no single Chinese citizen who starved to death under the Japanese occupation. Seeing these Japanese activities and being moved by them, there were even Chinese POWs who later joined Wang Jingwei’s pro-Japanese government.

    • Thanks: Arthur MacBride
  83. @Mulegino1

    So mass murder of civilians on a scale of much greater magnitude is okay as long as it is carried out from a high altitude?

    Show me WHERE I said that in my post!!!

    AND what was the jap civilian casualty number compared with the Chinese one– let alone the casualty figure of the whole of East and Southeast Asia?!

    The japs should feel blessed that they died quick and clean deaths– but the victims of the japs were deliberately made to suffer for as long as possible.

    Everyone knows that the Japanese could be very brutal on the ground. So could the Soviets- and the Western allies. How many have heard of the mass rape carried out by the Free French Forces against the women of the villages around Monte Cassino, or about the Dachau Massacre in which convalescing hospital patients were murdered by the sainted G.I.’s?

    Now, YOU are the one who is implying that it is OK for the japs to commit atrocities against civilians– and really sickening crimes at that– just because “everyone knows that the Japanese could be very brutal on the ground!” Have you ever consulted a psychiatrist?

    Your propaganda to whitewash jap and germ-man war crimes goes well with the “You have to destroy them in order to save them” mentality– Now I have shown that I am NOT with “the liberators” of WWII.

    The reason for all the atrocity propaganda against the Germans- especially against the Germans- was to detract from the savage brutality of the Allies, a.k.a. “the liberators.”

    THAT is another way of admitting that ‘the reason for all YOUR atrocity propaganda’ against the Allies, especially against “the liberators.” ‘was to detract from the savage brutality of the germ-mans’ and the jap-sans!!!

    • Replies: @Mulegino1
  84. Malla says:
    @phillip sawicki

    Return of the Populace
    The population of Nanking just before the Japanese occupation was about 200,000. About a week before the Japanese attack on Nanking, on November 28, 1937, the head of the Police Department of Nanking, Mr. Wan, announced at a press conference for foreigners, “About 200,000 people still live here in Nanking.” Five days after the Japanese occupation, on December 18, 1937, the International Committee for the Nanking Safety Zone, which was a group of Westerners remaining in Nanking, announced that the population of the city was about 200,000. Later, on December 21, the Foreigners Association in Nanking referred to 200,000 as the population of Nanking.

    How could the Japanese kill 300,000 citizens in a city that held only 200,000 people?

    One month after the Japanese occupation, many Nanking citizens who had escaped the city came back to Nanking, learning that peace had returned, and the population increased to about 250,000. There is a record that the Japanese troops distributed food to that number of citizens. On January 14, 1938, about one month after the Japanese occupation, the International Committee announced that the population of Nanking had increased to about 250,000.

    The Japanese military had published Good Citizen Certificate to Nanking citizens from the end of December 1937 to January 1938 to distinguish them from Chinese soldiers hiding in Nanking in civilian clothing. The total number of the certificates reached about 160,000, although this figure does not include children under the age of ten and old people above the age of sixty. Professor Lewis Smythe, who was in Nanking as a member of the International Committee for the Nanking Safety Zone, wrote in his letter to Tokuyasu Fukuda, a probationary diplomat of the Japanese Embassy in Nanking, that according to this figure, the population of Nanking was about 250,000-270,000.

    Many Nanking citizens thus came back to the city, and the population increased. Would the citizens have come back to a city in which there had been a massacre?

    Press Reports

    On the day when the Japanese troops entered Nanking, more than 100 press reporters and photographers entered together with them. The press corps were not only from Japan, but also from European and American press organizations, including Reuters and AP. However, none of the press corps reported the occurrence of a massacre of 300,000 people. Paramount News (American newsreels) made films reporting the Japanese occupation in Nanking, but did not report the occurrence of a massacre.

    The British newspaper North China Daily News, which was published in China in English on December 24, 1937, eleven days after the Japanese occupation of Nanking, carried a photo taken in Nanking by their photographer. The photo was entitled “Japanese distribute gifts in Nanking.” In the photo are Japanese soldiers distributing gifts, and Chinese adults and children receiving the gifts and rejoicing. Is this the scene of a massacre?

    Radio Addresses

    The Chinese leader Chiang Kai-shek, who had escaped from Nanking just before the attack by the Japanese military, broadcasted radio addresses hundreds of times to the Chinese people until the end of the Pacific War. He never mentioned the Nanking Massacre even once. This is very unnatural—if the mass slaughter really occurred.

  85. Mulegino1 says:
    @Deep Thought

    The japs should feel blessed that they died quick and clean deaths– but the victims of the japs were deliberately made to suffer for as long as possible…

    That pretty much validates my point. Basically what you are claiming is that the “japs” died “quick and clean deaths” at the hands of the humane Allied bombers- as if being incinerated is “quick and clean.

    Now, YOU are the one who is implying that it is OK for the japs to commit atrocities against civilians– and really sickening crimes at that– just because “everyone knows that the Japanese could be very brutal on the ground!” Have you ever consulted a psychiatrist?

    Good job of completely distorting what I said, and throwing in a childish ad hominem to boot! I never said that any atrocities against civilians are justified, whether by “japs,” “germ-mans” or anyone else.
    I merely observed that the Allies were guilty of hideous atrocities.

    I would also add that, in the European theater, the atrocities perpetrated by the Allies dwarfed- both in viciousness and number- any realistically imputed to the Third Reich by orders of magnitude.

    Have you ever consulted a tutor on reading comprehension?

  86. Anon[398] • Disclaimer says:

    Clearly, most if not all will believe the atom bomb dropping, a horrific wrong, has led to no punishment for the responsible.

    Clearly, that is not the case. Most of the current situation of the country, most things this very website’s columnists lament, come from a general lack of morality and justness at the core. They come wherefrom the atom bomb dropping came.
    There will be no rest for the country and who inhabits it, as long as they don’t discover morality and justness. What there will be is, what there is now.

  87. @Mulegino1

    Basically what you are claiming is that the “japs” died “quick and clean deaths” at the hands of the humane Allied bombers- as if being incinerated is “quick and clean.

    It is you who need to consult a tutor what the japs did in Nanking, Manila, by Unit 731 etc. Compared to these victims of the japs’, the japs did die quick and clean deaths from bombing!

    Read my words again, “the victims of the japs were deliberately made to suffer for as long as possible.”

    That pretty much validates my point.

    If “That pretty much validates your point”, then what I had said– which you opposed– was wrong?

    I merely observed that

    And “I merely observed that”

    “This is really “up close” but it was not against well-armed enemy soldiers. The japs did not just kill for the sake of killing, they killed defenceless old men, women, children and babies. They did NOT just kill the defenceless but they deliberately killed in ways that MAXIMISED human suffering!!!”

    So, what had I said that is not true and requires your contradicting?

    the Allies were guilty of hideous atrocities

    That might, or might not be true– I am not here to judge but I understand that the germ-mans and Jap-sans started the War, and the allies FOUGHT BACK.

    Killing a man by “inflicting several blows to the man’s head and neck area” is “hideous atrocities” too:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-18522383

    I don’t blame the father for that atrocious punishment.

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  88. @Malla

    You certainly are an Evil swine.

    • Troll: Arthur MacBride
  89. Malla says:
    @mike99588

    Portraying Japan as merely an anti-Communist victim of the tribe/CCP/CCCP is a little too revisionist rich for me

    Itz not rich, itz not poor itz how it happened, the truth.


    How the Far East Was Lost: American Policy and the Creation of Communist China, 1941-1949 Paperback – April 28, 2012
    by Anthony Kubek (Author)

    There are hundreds of footnotes, sources and the author had access to the private papers of General Patrick J. Hurley, former American Ambassador to Nationalist China. At the Hoover War Memorial Library in Stanford University he was able to examine in detail the private diaries and correspondence of General Joseph Stilwell and learn the exact role played by “Vinegar Joe” in the China tragedy. Also, transcripts from the Harry Dexter White Papers at Princeton University library and many other sources.

    In 1920, the Communist movement in Asia was organized after Lenin sent his secretary, Marin, to establish secretly a Chinese Communist Party as a branch of the Communist International. In 1922, the Soviet government sent Adolf Joffe to China on the delicate mission of establishing official diplomatic relations with the internationally recognized Chinese government in Peking, while at the same time arranging for Soviet support of the revolutionary movement of Kuomintang, which aimed at overthrowing the Peking government. Joffe did not meet with success in Peking but met with Sun Yat-sen at Shanghai in January 1923, he was able to arrange an entente between Soviet Russia and the Kuomintang. Joffe returned to Soviet Russia and was succeeded by Leo Karakhan, the foremost Soviet expert in Oriental diplomacy. In 1924 he obtained official recognition of the Soviet Union from the Peking government.

    In Oct. 1927, a major speech before the Chamber of Commerce of the United States, George Bronson Rea outlined the picture of Bolshevism spreading over China. Friction developed between Russia and China over the administration of the Chinese Eastern Railway. The two parties had agreed in the Sino-Soviet agreement in 1924 that it would be a joint administration of the railway as a commercial enterprise. There was also an agreement forbidding the dissemination of propaganda inimical to the political and social institutions of either country. On April 6, 1927 the troops of Chang Tso-lin raided the Soviet Embassy in Peking and discovered documents that abundantly proved the Russians were spreading propaganda and planning to establish Communism in China.

    The Japanese saw this situation very clearly, and Japan to protect her own security, began to take measures to check the flow of the Red tide. The Japanese statesmen understood the Communist threat in the Far East far better than any other nation could have. It was clear to the Japanese that unless bastions of defense were built in Manchuria and Inner Mongolia, Communism would spread all of North China and seriously threaten the security of Japan.

    The United States had its danger zone in the Caribbean, and since the era of Thomas Jefferson, every effort had been made to strengthen the American position and keep foreign nations from establishing naval and military bases that would threaten American security. So Japan regarded Manchuria. But this fact was not recognized by the American Government after the close of WWI. Why?

  90. Malla says:
    @mike99588

    ….Continued
    Secretary of State Henry L. Stimson directed a long verbal barrage against the Japanese. When FDR became President in 1933, he supported the “Stimson Doctrine” without reservation. It is significant that during the first Cabinet meeting of the Roosevelt Administration, March 7, 1933 the eventuality of war with Japan was carefully considered. On October 5,1937, FDR made a famous address at Chicago, in which he advocated a “quarantine” against aggressor nations. His words of sharp criticism were directed at Japan. He had inaugurated a new policy of pressure that helped drive Americans down the road to war.

    On July 26,1939, notice was given to Japan that after six months the Commercial Treaty of February 21, 1911 would expire. This action was a blow to the national pride of the Japanese.
    Roosevelt wanted to employ economic sanctions against Japan. Ambassador Joseph C. Grew was against this idea so FDR brought into his Cabinet on June 20, 1940, the Secretary of war, Henry L. Stimson who had convinced him of the efficacy of that policy back in January,1933.
    With the arrival of Stimson in the Cabinet, FDR began to forge an economic chain around Japan that foreclosed any hope of understanding between the two countries.

    Under these circumstances, Japan was compelled to adopt a new policy. She began to expand to the south in order to control those areas which would supply not only the necessities of life, but also the products essential to the Japanese war effort- notably oil, rubber, tin and adequate foodstuffs.

    On July 25,1941, FDR issued an executive order, effective the next day, freezing all Japanese assets in the United States. In effect, it created an economic blockade of Japan. Our highest military and naval authorities- among them Admiral Harold R. Stark, Chief of Naval Operations and General George C. Marshall, Army Chief of Staff- believed that the freezing order would cause Japan to take last-ditch measures.
    Six days before the order was issued the War Plans Division warned that an embargo on Japan would possibly involve the United States in an early war in the Pacific. Dr. Stanley K. Hornbeck, Advisor on Political Relations to the State Department and Secretaries Morgenthau and Stimson strongly advocated the order.
    When the Japanese Ambassador, Admiral Kichisabura Nomura, called at the Department of State to inquire as to the meaning of the executive order, he was coolly received. Tojo, then Minister of War, regarded the freezing order by the United States as driving Japan into a corner. Oil was vital to Japan, and from now on each fall of the level on oil brought the hour of decision closer. Historian Louis Morton, Chief of the Pacific Section, Department of Army, wrote that America by adopting a program of unrestricted economic warfare, left Japan the embarrassing choice of humiliating surrender or resistance by whatever means lay at hand. He termed the American order of July 26 “the Japanese Pearl Harbor,” suggesting a degree of provocation in excess of what many have been willing to concede.

  91. Malla says:
    @mike99588

    President Roosevelt and his advisors wilfully ignored the fact that Manchuria and Inner Mongolia were danger zones for Japan. Japanese statemen of every party had realized for years the significance of Soviet menace to Japanese security.

    Churchill said, the first time he met Roosevelt, Roosevelt had told him that,“regardless of whether Japan attacked us or not the United States would go to war” At noon on November 25, Secretaries Stimson and Knox met at the White House together with General Marshall and Admiral Stark. The discussion dealt mainly with the Japanese situation concerning the intercepted message fixing the November 29 deadline. The President brought up the event that we were likely to be attacked perhaps as soon as next Monday. The main question was “how we should maneuver into the position of firing the first shot without allowing too much danger to ourselves.”

    Harry Dexter White ( Soviet mole) put pressure on the Japanese by sending a letter signed “Henry Morgenthau Jr.” to the President Roosevelt on the 24th or 25th of November. In words told of the dire consequences that would come in the wake of any agreement with Japan. Pressure exerted by Communist sympathizers in the Institute of Pacific Relations must also be taken into account when analyzing the reasons for the many rejections of a truce with Japan. On November 25, Professor Owen Lattimore, (Soviet spy) the special advisor to Chiang Kai-shek dispatched an anxious cable to Presidential Assistant Lauchlin Currie ( Soviet Spy) arguing against any agreement between the United States and Japan on a modus vivendi.

    When Congressman Martin Dies, Chairman of the House Committee on Un-American Activities, became insistent on digging Reds out of the Administration, he was summoned to the White House, where Roosevelt , in fury, told him, “several of my best friends I’ve got are Communist, You’re all wrong about this….” Roosevelt, indeed, acted as if some of them were. After Earl Browder the head of the Communist Party in the United States had been sent to the penitentiary for passport fraud in making a clandestine trip to Moscow, Roosevelt pardoned him as a contribution to “national unity,” now that Soviet Union was an American ally. Browder boasted, in his testimony before the Tydings Committee in 1950 that in 1942 and 1943 he reported to Roosevelt, and that the information he relayed to the White House had an important in reshaping American policy in China.

    FDR had no doubt that he could enroll Stalin as a member of his circle and could lead the Soviet leader along new paths of accommodation. As early as March, 1942, the President in writing to Churchill had said: “I tell you that I think I can handle Stalin personally better than either your Foreign Office or my State Department.”

    Roosevelt had little patience with diplomats who were well acquainted with Soviet policy and who warned him against any optimism about establishing cordial Soviet-American relations. Former Governor George H. Earle of Pennsylvania was a Lieutenant Commander in the Navy serving as assistant naval attaché in Turkey. Earle sent frantic dispatches to Washington concerning the alarming situation in that country in regard to Soviet Russia. In May, 1944, he flew to Washington to see the President. While waiting in an ante-room in the White House, he met Secretary Forrestal and conveyed his fears of Soviet Russia. Within the shadow of the President’s desk, Forrestal told him: “My God, I think this is dreadful. We were all alone over here. Russia can do no wrong. It is perfectly dreadful. They just simply are blind to the situation.” When Earle saw Roosevelt, he said: “Mr. President, the real menace is not Germany, it is Russia.” FDR gave Earle a smile and said: “George, Russia is a nation of 180 million people speaking 120 different dialects. When the war is over she will fly to pieces like a centrifugal machine at high speed.” A short time later, Roosevelt wrote a letter to Earle forbidding him to publish an article concerning his critical views of Soviet Russia. Commander Earle was exiled as Governor of Samoa, a remote island in the Pacific, “so I could not talk.”

  92. @Harold Smith

    One would expect to find something in documents such as records of cabinet meetings, diplomatic and intelligence dispatches, diaries of senior officials of the period, etc.

    There are quite a few such records from American officials who didn’t agree with the course followed. Either not supporting the use of the bomb itself, opposing the unconditional surrender doctrine (there are reams of this from the moment the cack-brained Roosevelt declared it), or both.

    Truman for his part widely gave interviews about his decision for many years after the war, and for him it was an easy decision.

    In the absence of records and other evidence, we’re left with speculation. And certainly it does seem reasonable to infer that Truman and Byrne wished to awe the Soviets and considered it an acceptable price to drag out the war by not deviating from FDR’s policy. Other probable motivations included pride in craftsmanship and vengeance.

    As for the other dubious US wars you refer to, we have reams of evidence exposing the US agenda. The Project for the New American Century, for instance, was a public group. The memos of Doug Feith and Paul Wolfowitz are a matter of public record. So, too, are George W. Bush’s efforts to find or better yet make up the WMD intelligence needed to justify invading Iraq.

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  93. Malla says:
    @phillip sawicki


    Nanking citizens wearing armbands of the flag of Japan and giving cheers to the Japanese military on the day of its Ceremonial Entry into Nanking on December 17, 1937


    Japanese soldiers playing with Chinese children in Nanking using toys, and their parents wearing armbands of the flag of Japan. Photo taken on Dec. 20, 1937, seven days after the conquest of Nanking.

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    Chinese citizens receiving confectionery from Japanese soldiers on December 20, 1937, in Nanking.


    Chinese boy smiling and Second Lieutenant Takashi Akaboshi of the Japanese Army, who led a fight along the Yangzi River. Photo taken near the walls of Nanking just after the Japanese Conquest (photo courtesy of Takashi’s wife).

  94. Malla says:
    @phillip sawicki


    “Japanese soldiers escorting Chinese farmers from their fields to home at Shengjiaqiao village, Paoshan Prefecture, Jiangsu Province” taken by Kumazaki Tamaki on October 14, 1937


    Chinese citizens celebrating the start of Nanking’s self-government on January 3, 1938, waving the Japanese flag and the Chinese five-color flag.

  95. @brabantian

    Evidence shows clearly that nuclear weapons have never existed.

    Based.

  96. Mulegino1 says:
    @Deep Thought

    …I understand that the germ-mans and Jap-sans started the War, and the allies FOUGHT BACK.

    The imputation of sole or overwhelmingly preponderant guilt to Germany and Japan for starting the war is extremely simplistic and, in all likelihood, false.

    The Carthaginian Versailles “peace” regime appeared to lay the foundations of a second great European war by design.

    Hitler’s attempts to undo this unjust arrangement were what any patriotic leader would have done under the circumstances- as a matter of fact, his position regarding Danzig and the Corridor was initially more conciliatory than that of his Weimar predecessors, and he even concluded a non-aggression pact with Poland (under Marshal Pilsudski) in 1934. The Poles’ acceptance of the cynical British offer of military assistance (which the British knew they and the French were unable to honor) abrogated the non-aggression pact.

    Germany’s invasion of Poland was merely the trip wire for the initiation of the greater conflict, not its sole efficient cause. Poland only mattered to the western allies as a useful provocateur against Germany- its independence and territorial integrity were of no real concern. This was borne out by the fact that the Soviet invasion of the eastern half of the country, a mere two weeks after the start of the German invasion, elicited no declarations of war from the erstwhile champions of Polish freedom and independence.

    History will ultimately show the prime movers for war in Europe to be the British war party, the FDR administration and international Jewry. The intransigent and chauvinistic Poles were successfully used by these actors to initiate a war that would destroy Germany as a sovereign nation forever.

    German political and economic preeminence on the Eurasian landmass- especially its establishment of a barter trade bloc of nations- would have spelled the doom of Wall St. and City of London worldwide financial hegemony.

    For Britain, the US and most of the western powers, Japan’s greatest sin of all was acquiring an empire of its own in Asia- in other words, doing what the western powers had already done. This was unacceptable to the “Great Powers,” i.e., the same great powers that had previously waged the genocidal opium wars on China less than a century before.

    The maneuvering of Japan into “firing the first shot” of the war by the FDR administration is well documented. Since Germany had refused to take the bait offered by FDR’s illegal naval war against Germany in the Atlantic, it would be necessary to get into the conflict via “the back door,” i.e., war with Japan in the Pacific.

    The McCollum Memorandum spelled out the ways which could be used to provoke Japan into war, which implied that this was official, if secret, policy.

    The economic embargo of Japan was clearly provocative in intent, and it carried genocidal implications. Japan was a resource poor, heavily populated island group totally dependent on manufacturing and export and the importation of raw materials, especially oil.

    Relocating the US Pacific Fleet from San Diego to Pearl Harbor made no sense other than serving as a provocation to Japan. Supplying a huge naval force on an island thousands of miles from the mainland was a logistical nightmare, and its narrow channel was a potential death trap.

    It is now common knowledge that US military intelligence was reading Japan’s secret diplomatic and had broken the Japanese naval code as well. From the diplomatic codes alone it was evident that the Pacific Fleet in Pearl Harbor was an imminent target. None of this vital information was given to the commanders in Hawaii.

    Threatened with the impossible choice between a continued embargo and starvation or a total capitulation and withdrawal from Manchuria- which was unthinkable- Japan had no choice but to make a desperate gamble and strike at the Pacific Fleet.

  97. Malla says:

    https://altcensored.com/watch?v=pwOWtfArvQw

    Red Ice Radio – Joshua Blakeney – Hour 1 – Japan Bites Back: Allied Demonization of the Empire of Japan

    Joshua Blakeney is a freelance journalist originally from the UK based in Canada. He has been Press TV’s (Iran) Canadian correspondent since April 2012. He is a co-host of The Real Deal radio show and co-founder of Non-Aligned Media. In 2014, after extensive archival research at the Diet National Library in Japan, Blakeney published Japan Bites Back: Documents Contextualizing Pearl Harbor, the topic of our discussion. Joshua begins with an overview of his journey into the world of WWII history. He speaks about the backdrop of Japan as the perceived aggressor in the Pearl Harbor operation, and the threat of communism that went against Japan’s unique, homogenized and autonomous way of living. Joshua explains the history of Japan’s interests in preserving the Asiatic agrarian societies and the need to expel Western influence. Then, we compare Pan-Asianist ideology to Iran’s attempt to unify its region today. Joshua makes connections to false flag events such as Pearl Harbor and origins of wars that have been interpreted in a fraudulent manner. They discuss (in the second hour) the need for a 3rd position to view the imported problems created by mass immigration, along with the necessity for Muslims and Whites to avoid serving Zionist interests. At the end, Joshua describes how Japan’s connection to the land and collective spirituality has allowed the country to develop a superior culture.

    https://archive.org/download/JapanBitesBackDocumentsContextualizingPearlHarborByJoshuaBlakeney2015/Japan%20Bites%20Back-%20Documents%20Contextualizing%20Pearl%20Harbor%20by%20Joshua%20Blakeney%20%282015%29.pdf
    In September 2014 Joshua Blakeney undertook extensive archival research at the National Diet Library in Japan. The documents he retrieved, along with the other essays in this book, provide the “Japanese side of the argument” about the origins of the “clash of civilizations” that was WWII in Asia. The bolshevization of China, Western meddling in Asia, Soviet infiltration of the White House, U.S. expansionism in the Pacific, the anti-Japanese provocations which spawned the Pearl Harbor operation and Japan’s Pan-Asianist policies are all subjects explored in the book.

    A review by James Perloff

    James Perloff

    “Joshua Blakeney’s Japan Bites Back is a one-of-a-kind book. Western revisionism concerning World War II has focused mostly on Germany while overlooking Japan. Unbeknownst to almost everyone today, American occupation forces in Japan (GHQ) destroyed thousands of different books and journals which expressed Japanese geopolitical views. This Orwellian erasure of history has made it very difficult to understand Japan’s true aims before and during the war. A few documents escaped destruction, and Mr. Blakeney enables us to access them for the first time. Japan was never on a mission of “world conquest.” These documents prove the Japanese knew that Soviet-directed communism, if left unchecked, would engulf China. Ironically, this is exactly what happened in the late 1940s, at the very time the GHQ was destroying the Japanese documents which predicted it. Hats off to Mr. Blakeney for shining a light on an area of history that has, until now, only dwelt in darkness.—”James Perloff

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  98. @Mulegino1

    Hitler’s attempts to undo this unjust arrangement were what any patriotic leader would have done under the circumstances

    No, the occupation of rump Czechia was clearly excessive, it also broke his written word given in Munich. It also directly led to the British guarantee to Poland. Hitler could clearly have avoided all that.

    • Replies: @Mulegino1
  99. @Mulegino1

    Sean McMeekin’s Stalin’s War makes a good case that the Uncle Joe should be added to the list of Brits, FDR, Jews, etc. who were at least as responsible for the war as Hitler was. Prof. McMeekin will discuss his book on my radio show next week. For details stay tuned to https://kevinbarrett.heresycentral.is/category/radio/ .

    • Agree: Mulegino1
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  100. @Thorfinnsson

    This is a critical and necessary study, if Truth has meaning. I encourage those interested in this theme to search (I use DuckDuckGo) Yukio Mishima, a hero for the ages.

  101. Malla says:
    @mike99588

    is a little too revisionist rich for me.

    About to get richer

    James Perloff : The Real History of WW2

    Germany and Japan were not the villians of WW2.

  102. Fr. John says:

    “Our best writers and prophets have told us the truth: Thoreau, Twain, William James, MLK, Fr. Daniel Berrigan…”.

    The article quoted at the beginning of this propaganda piece lists the worst conglomeration of Adulterers, scoffers, Atheists, and overt Marxists, and DARES call them, ‘our prophets’????

    Who wrote this piece of shit? A damned Jew? Or just a deluded post-Modernist. (same difference)

    Anathema.

  103. Malla says:
    @mike99588

    Japan was a rabid colonizer that meant to be a genocidal superpower.

    Hmmmm
    From the Book: America Has no Enemies in Asia written in 1938
    https://digitalrepository.trincoll.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1047&context=moore
    “For decades in China it has been the fashion to blame foreigners for the distress brought on partly by overpopulation and partly by Chinese civil wars and official cruelties.
    Probably less than five per cent of China’s population can read, though the number of Chinese graduates of American universities is large. Mass ignorance makes anti-foreignism a natural choice of corrupt politicians.

    After America and England bombarded Nanking to rescue foreigners and showed a firm resolve to defend the Shanghai Settlement, Chiang’s party found that anti-American and anti-British policies did not pay. So Chiang’s party moderated that tack and began to seek U. S. aid. Chiang wanted aid to help him subdue rival claimants for the dictatorship. He promptly got U. S. backing, for reasons too devious to relate here, despite just having finished a campaign of anti-Americanism in which much American property was burned and in which a number of Americans were killed.
    When U. S. and British backing became assured, Chiang’s party shifted the anti-foreign emphasis to Japan. The Anglo-Japanese alliance had expired. Bolshevist publicity against Japan had been effective in America. Thus isolated, at that time not having either Italy or Germany as theoretical allies, Japan was the ideal target-much better than America or England- for traditional Chinese anti-foreignism.
    China’s Anti-Japan Campaign It seems to this writer that there was no justification for the new anti-Japan policy in China. Chinese businessmen by the thousands were well-treated in Japan. At that time Japan had not occupied Manchukuo, then called Manchuria. Japan in 1922 had voluntarily handed back to China the former German concessions of railways, etc., in the Chinese province of Shantung, which Japan had taken from Germany in the World War. Japan’s return to China of these properties was a generous gesture, very exceptional in the history of international dealings. It was particularly significant on the part of Japan, which is a relatively poor country and in need of outside resources.

    Just why the Japanese returned the Shantung properties to China, this writer can not say. Japanese papers at the time were full of arguments that Japan should take the lead in cultivating Chinese good will, and thus open trade relations with China which would be more valuable than the Shantung concessions. This sentiment seems to have been strong, for a little later, in 1929, the Japanese Government appropriated 72 million yen to establish scholarships for Chinese students to study in Japan as “good will” guests. Also, the Japanese opened a number of good will hospitals in China, financed in Japan, for the benefit of poorer classes of Chinese. Certainly the anti-Japanese campaign in China did not originate with the Japanese occupation of Manchuria. It was provably under way years before that event.

    The Manchurian Conflict
    During the Japanese conflict with Chinese in Manchuria, between- 1931 and 1933, Chiang Kai-shek never once took the field against the Japanese. That conflict was largely between the Japanese and Chang Hsueh-liang, war chief who ruled Manchuria as his own province, independent of Chiang’s regime in China Proper.””

  104. Malla says:
    @mike99588

    Further we read
    “Japan’s return of the Shantung concessions to China and other good will gestures may have placated some of the better elements in China. But they failed to halt the antiforeignism which was the main political expedient of many Chinese politicians and racketeers. The failure of Chinese officials to halt anti-Japanese campaigns, often resulting in violence, aroused bitterness in Japan, coming as they did on top of Japanese good will gestures which had meant considerable sacrifices to Japan.
    Anti-Japanese agitators in China did not propose to buy Japanese properties. Their slogans called for confiscation.”

    …snip…..

    Anti-Japanese Violence
    It is commonly supposed by uninformed Americans that anti-Japanese agitation in China, during years preceding the present conflict, was a matter of boycotts and press criticism. It was not. The writer of this booklet offers an illustrative instance of which he had direct knowledge:
    In Foochow, a South China city, there, were some hundreds of Japanese. They were there as tea buyers, wholesalers, and other legitimate occupations, entitled to the same protection Chinese business men received in Japan. In one house lived a Japanese school teacher and his wife. Chinese secret societies threatened the life of the school teacher-not, so far as any one could learn, on complaints that he had committed any offense-but because it was planned to kill him as a demonstration of “Chinese patriotism.”
    The Japanese Consul asked the Chinese officials to provide guards for the teacher’s home. Chinese guards were sent. A few days later, mysteriously, the guards suddenly left their posts without notice. At once a gang of “Chinese patriots” burst into the home and shot both the Japanese teacher and his wife. In this case, the charge of the Japanese was not that the Chinese officials had ordered the killings, but that they had connived at it or permitted it by abruptly withdrawing the guards without notice at a time when it was known a gang contemplated the crime.”

  105. @beavertales

    How are Westerners any better? Genocide against Native Indigenous in N. America, the Conquistadors, the European colonizers in Africa, the Mongolians, Russians in Ukraine, English in Ireland, Arab Muslims, etc, etc, etc.

    You are describing a human condition that is ubiquitous.

  106. Mulegino1 says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    I believe that Stalin anticipated and facilitated (via the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact) the war and planned to let the major belligerents- Germany, France and Great Britain exhaust themselves in a war of attrition similar to the First World War- and then march into Central and Western Europe under the banner of “liberation.” However, Germany’s quick victories over France and Great Britain forced him to fast forward his plans.

    Looking forward to that interview with McMeekin!

  107. Mulegino1 says:
    @reiner Tor

    I don’t believe that there was any other alternative other than annexation of “Bohemia and Moravia” since the breakup of the artificial Czechoslovakia made what was left a failed rump state, which could have easily been turned into a Soviet proxy- essentially a salient deep into the heart of Germany.

    It should be noted that Poland also participated gladly in the dismemberment by annexing the Teschen region.

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  108. FitsMan says:
    @Mulegino1

    Agreed…the English are and have always been a savge race.

  109. @Malla

    Thanks for highlighting Joshua Blakeney’s book, very worthwhile study imho (I have a hard copy) into aspects of WW2 in the FE.

    Japan cannot be forgiven by Globohomo for humiliating Perfidious Albion by rolling through Malaya so fast that the Imperial Oz/Indian/Brit forces set new records in retreat speed. And then to take Singapore, their impregnable fortress … not to mention encouraging colonies to declare (and later achieve) national Independence.

    Japan was firebombed, atom-bombed, subjected to Nuremburg-style show trials, occupied by the fucking yanks who regularly rape Japanese schoolgirls like the heroes they are. Japan is internationally vilified to this very day with fake holohoax-style yarns such as the “Rape of Nanking”, in which the Japanese Army supposedly killed 300.000 in a city of 200/250.000 total …
    It’s quite convenient that Iris Chang “committed suicide” …

    Personally I am an admirer of the fortitude/patience of the Japanese in the face of 80-odd years of shit being thrown at them.
    There is little doubt as to who is behind this ongoing program and one can only wonder why China feels it necessary to publicise this lie … it is disappointing in them to be honest … but the useful idiots will always unthinkingly fall in line with their Master’s Voice, even the resident Looney Leftist Manglebrain called you an Evil Swine (lol) …

    • Thanks: Malla
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    , @Malla
    , @Kevin Barrett
  110. Malla says:
    @mike99588

    Further
    “Chiang’s Predicament
    Anti-Japanese agitation from 1928 to 1937 was waged considerably by Chinese elements – particularly Chinese Communists-who hated Chiang. If he could be entangled in a losing war, reds might hope to gain power in large areas of China in consequence of wartime disorganization. When Chiang Kai-shek undertook to subdue anti-Japanese lawlessness, his enemies in China shouted that he was pro-Japanese. Yet to compromise with the anti-Japanese elements and officially sanction their violence would invite war with Japan. Chiang was in a hard position. Finally he yielded to the factions clamoring for war.

    In June of 1936 a South China faction revolted with the announcement that its aim was to force Chiang to attack the Japanese.

    Then in December of 1936 the Chinese Communists, in an alliance with another faction, kidnapped Chiang and announced he would be killed unless he agreed to war on Japan. War came seven months later.The point is not that Chiang Kai-shek himself provoked the present war. But it is a matter of plain evidence that provocations from the Chinese side were numerous.”
    Chiang’s Kidnaping
    From Madame Chiang Kai-shek’s book on the kidnapping of her husband, plus other evidence, it seems plain that Chiang had to choose between risking his dictatorship in civil war or joining the movement to make war on Japan. The Blue Shirts, an organization of anti-Japanese officers in the Chinese army, might join the factions against him if he refused to side with the factions seeking war on Japan. Chinese businessmen and the more stable variety of educated Chinese generally seem to have opposed war. The common coolie and farmer classes dreaded war. But these pro-peace elements were shouted down by the radicals. Meanwhile, red propagandists spread the word that aid from America could be expected if war could be started. While affairs were thickening, after Chiang was kidnaped by reds in December of 1936, Chinese radicals were shouting that China, with nine times as many ready troops, could win against Japan.

    When Conflict Came
    Probably no foreigner knows positively who began the shooting on the night of July 7, 1937. This was in itself unimportant. It became serious when the Chiang Kai-shek central government of China, under pressure from pro-war elements, refused to recognize the negotiations of local Chinese officials at the scene of the incident. The local officials seemed ready to settle it peacefully. Chinese radicals in Nanking and Shanghai were shouting that the local officials were sell-outs to Japan, and that Chiang should not accept their settlement. This meant war.”

  111. Malla says:
    @mike99588

    And finally from the book

    “Defining the Aggressor
    The League of Nations sessions at which Japan was called the aggressor were dominated by Soviet Commissar Maxim Litvinoff, known also as Finkelstein.”

    …snip….
    “The League blundered badly in 1931 when it sent out the Lytton Commission to gather facts. The Lytton Commission findings showed an embarrassing array of Chinese provocations. The League didn’t make that mistake again in 1937. Directed by Comrade Litvinoff it took action for China, Moscow’s ally, without any inquiry-a procedure as high-handed as would be a judgment without evidence in an ordinary court case.”

    …snip….

    “Voluntarily, Japan returned to China in 1922 the Shantung properties won from Germany in the World War. Japan’s relatively small army, one-ninth the size of China’s prior to the present conflict, would hardly indicate adequate preparation to fight China alone, not to mention America and the rest of the world.
    Japan’s peace offer to China in January of 1938, with a view to ending the present war, did not demand an inch of Chinese territory. The main demand was that anti-Japanese violence and agitation of the sort causing the massacre of Japanese civilians at Tungchow be suppressed.”

    “If the Japanese were looking for conflict with China, as the Tanaka Memorial says, there were numerous provocations between 1927, the date Chinese claim the Tanaka Memorial was drafted, and 1937, the date present fighting began. In 1927, in fact, the British Government, now allied with Moscow against Japan, appealed to Japan to send troops to China to help defend British lives against Chiang Kaishek’s anti-British drive. If Japan wished to attack China, that was a splendid opportunity-with British approval. At any time prior to 1937, Japan could have attacked Chiang when he was less well equipped with imported foreign arms. During years prior to 1937, too, Chinese militarists repeatedly sought Japanese aid, promising all sorts of concessions in return for aid resulting in victory over other Chinese factions. These were refused by Japan.”

  112. Malla says:
    @Arthur MacBride

    Japan cannot be forgiven by Globohomo for humiliating Perfidious Albion by rolling through Malaya

    The British Empire was to be destroyed by globo-homo Wallstreet anyways. Japans main crime was to stand as an imediment to the spread of Communism in the Far East. The British-Japan alliance was actually very good but guess who pushed for this allaince to be dissolved? USA.

    Anyways check this out.

    https://questioningjapanesehistory.wordpress.com
    A lot of posts by Joshua Blakeney
    And this
    https://questioningjapanesehistory.wordpress.com/2015/10/26/jewish-soviet-mole-responsible-for-pearl-harbor-provocations/

    Jewish-Soviet Mole Responsible for Pearl Harbor Provocations
    This video features John Koster, author of the book Operation Snow: How a Soviet Mole in FDR’s White House Triggered Pearl Harbor. In the video he discusses the treasonous activities of Harry Dexter White who worked from 1934 in the U.S. Treasury with Henry Morgenthau of the infamous Morgenthau Plan. Koster opines:

    White was able to start a war between the Japanese and the United States that neither country wanted, that the United States wasn’t ready for and that the Japanese knew that they couldn’t possibly win.

    Like Canada, Australia, France and most other Western nations today, the Soviet Union persecuted, as State-policy, critics of Jews and Jewish culture. This, needless to say, favourably disposed many Jews to Communism, some of whom actively connived to subordinate the national interests of their host nations to those of the philo-Semitic Soviet regime.

    Harry Dexter White was one such Jewish supporter of Communism who made decisions from his influential position which prioritized Jewish and Soviet interests over those of the majority of people in the U.S., who were at the time overwhelmingly isolationist. As I write in the introduction to my Japan Bites Back “such pro-Soviet Jews created circumstances wherein the prospect of a German-Japanese, East-West attack on the philo-Semitic Soviet regime was thwarted via the dragging of the U.S. into war with Japan.”

    • Thanks: Arthur MacBride
  113. @Mulegino1

    The imputation of sole or overwhelmingly preponderant guilt to Germany and Japan for starting the war is extremely simplistic and, in all likelihood, false.

    Your imputation that the Japland’s aggressions and killings in the war in Asia is not only false but out-right apologetic for the aggressor.

    The Carthaginian Versailles “peace” regime appeared to lay the foundations of a second great European war by design.

    murrika’s policies of rewarding the guilty japan, but punishing jap’s victims, “lay the foundations of a second great Asian war by design.”

    The economic embargo of Japan was clearly provocative in intent, and it carried genocidal implications. Japan was a resource poor, heavily populated island group totally dependent on manufacturing and export and the importation of raw materials, especially oil.

    The only “provocations” that a China in decline had given to japan was its inability to protect itself. The only “genocidal implications” existed was that of the japs on the Chinese.

    The maneuvering of Japan into “firing the first shot” of the war by the FDR administration is well documented.

    The japs had been killing Chinese IN China BEFORE FDR’s supposed maneuvering them into “firing the first shot.” You merely prove that you are one of those who hold the “gooks don’t count” mentality– only this time that the “gooks” are the Chinese.

  114. Malla says:
    @Arthur MacBride

    Here it is, all is coming out now. Harry Dexter White, a Communist Lituanian Jew took part in Operation Snow with Stalin and maybe FDR to somehow get Japan and the USA in war with each other.

    Operation Snow
    John Koster, author of the book Operation Snow: How a Soviet Mole in FDR’s White House Triggered Pearl Harbor.

    Stalin for a long time was planning conquering Western and Central Europe by a sudden strike but Germany, Romaina, Hungary, Finland etc… ended up smelling what was cooking (massive Soviet build up on their Eastern front for example) and pre-emptively striked the USSR via Operation Barbarossa. Add to that there were forces in the USA who wanted the spread of Communism in the Far East.
    Stalin was always afraid of the Japanese Empire in its East. So he got Nationalist China in a war with Japan, during the Xian incident when Chiang was kidnapped, he and the Chinese Communists forced Chiang to fight Japan, following which was the Marco Polo incident/ Shanghai etc… Stalin also had Chiang’s son hostage, who was released in return from Chiang attacking Japanese Empire instead of Chinese Communists. Stalin also began militarily supporting China, and he was happy to see the Japanese Imperial military mired up in China.
    Next was to get Japan and the USA at war with each other. Indeed according to James Perloff, the American deep State was itself afraid of a possibility of a Japanese invasion of the Soviet East and itself wanted a war with Japan to divert Japan’s energy against the USA and European Empires in South East Asia.
    Harry Dexler White wrote letters which made the Japanese believe that war with the USA was inevitable and so the Japanese realising that war with the USA would not be easy decided to preemptively strike and then gat come to some kind of deal. So what we had was Germany and its allies preemtively strike the USSR and Japan pre-emtively strike the USA.

    Interestingly this Communist Soviet guy in the FDR Government was himself involved in the Bretton Woods Conference with Keynes as well as for the creation fo the IMF and World Bank. All those leftards screech and scream about evul Murica and the IMF and exploitation of Third World. But guess what, a Communist Soviet mole played a big part in the foundation of these exploitative organisations.

    • Replies: @Arthur MacBride
    , @ivan
  115. @Mulegino1

    since the breakup of the artificial Czechoslovakia made what was left a failed rump state, which could have easily been turned into a Soviet proxy

    Unlikely, as rump Czechoslovakia was a servile German satellite state, and it had no land connection to the USSR. Should it have turned anti-German, Germany could have occupied it in a day, as did actually happen in our timeline. So it’s a pretty dumb argument. And even militarily occupying Czechia was a necessity (which it wasn’t), at least its formal independence could’ve been spared.

    It should be noted that Poland also participated gladly in the dismemberment by annexing the Teschen region.

    Well, the annexation of that region happened right after Munich, so it was almost half a year before the occupation of rump Czechia. So I don’t know how it’s relevant here – the annexation of the Sudetenland was basically accepted by Britain and France, just as the annexation of Těšín. But what I’m talking about is the March 1939 occupation of rump Czechia, which was not accepted by anyone, and which directly led to the issuance of the British guarantee to Poland.

    • Replies: @Mulegino1
  116. @Malla

    I read J Kostler’s Introduction to his book Operation Snow a few hours ago, Malla. He details his personal and family background and how he came to this belief on the (((machinations))) re Pearl Harbor.
    Very interesting account from a respected American historian and I’m probable to get this book. Looking at Blakeney’s entries, some do not continue past the first paragraph and seem to have been lost, which is a pity.
    His entry on Shinto and how this effects Japanese looked interesting.

    One that does survive is a written/vdo entry on WW2 “Comfort Women”. This was in full-scale hue and cry when I was in Tokyo and went on after my leaving, probably still ongoing today. “The Truth Will Out” as you say. JB comments —

    One reason I’m drawn to study the work of Japanese revisionists is that they are actually afforded enough discursive space for there to be a somewhat rational debate on whether or not the different aspects of the history of WWII in Asia they address have been interpreted accurately.

    Yes, in contrast to the “free west” where elderly ladies are locked up simply for asking for a debate on aspects of WW2 …

    https://questioningjapanesehistory.wordpress.com/2015/11/06/yumiko-yamamoto-comfort-women-were-not-sex-slaves/

    At the Foreign Correspondents’ Club of Japan

    • Thanks: Malla
  117. Mulegino1 says:
    @reiner Tor

    Unlikely, as rump Czechoslovakia was a servile German satellite state, and it had no land connection to the USSR.

    Neither did Spain, but if the Nationalists had been defeated, it would almost certainly have become part of the Soviet sphere of influence, and that would have been catastrophic.

    The Germans gave Czechia the status of a protectorate, and retained Hacha as president throughout the Protectorate’s existence. Otherwise, it was bound to become a hot bed of destabilization, and the Soviets certainly were interested in installing a friendly regime- which they ended up doing anyway by reinstalling their puppet Benes after the war.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
  118. @Arthur MacBride

    I interviewed Joshua Blakeney when Japan Bites Back came out: https://noliesradio.org/archives/95769

    • Thanks: Malla, Arthur MacBride
    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Arthur MacBride
  119. @Mulegino1

    Neither did Spain

    Spain had ports. Rump Czechia or even Czechoslovakia was landlocked. It also shared a huge land border with Germany. The German military could always occupy it in a couple of weeks even if there was resistance. Besides, the Hácha government was not in danger of falling.

    The reasons for the occupation are obvious. Germany could use the weapons stockpile of the Czechoslovak military (at the time it was not trivial) and more importantly, Czech resources (gold reserves, Czech manufacturing and heavy industry, etc.) to further build up their military for further conquest. They also proved that Hitler’s word was worth as much as that of a Gypsy peddler. This alarmed the British, even those who had favored appeasement previously.

    The Germans gave Czechia the status of a protectorate, and retained Hacha as president throughout the Protectorate’s existence.

    I take it you are not Czech. For the Czechs, the loss of independence was seen as a tragedy. The weak, old and sick Hácha (he suffered a heart attack while Hitler presented him his demands) stayed on because like Pétain he felt he could protect his people from an even worse fate. Now the Czechs were not a warrior race and they thought it was better not to fight the much stronger Germans, but it doesn’t mean that they loved German rule. Moreover, Hitler broke his word – he promised the British and the French that he wouldn’t touch the remaining rump Czechia.

  120. @Thorfinnsson

    One would expect to find something in documents such as records of cabinet meetings, diplomatic and intelligence dispatches, diaries of senior officials of the period, etc.

    As for the other dubious US wars you refer to, we have reams of evidence exposing the US agenda.

    Sophistry; you’re just waving your hands and making up the rules as you go along, apparently applying a different standard of proof regarding the U.S. “agenda” in WW2 vs the U.S. “agenda” in later “dubious” wars.

    As far as I’m concerned, we have “reams of evidence” that the Japanese wanted to end the war well before August 1945; and we have “reams of evidence” that the U.S. “government” knew that the Japanese wanted to end the war; and we have “reams of evidence” that top U.S. military officials were generally against the use of bombs (as being unnecessary to end the war and inhumane); and we have “reams of evidence” that the U.S. “government” didn’t actually care if the Japanese retained the emperor system in the post-war period or not; so the only logical conclusion a reasonable person could draw from an honest evaluation of all the “reams of evidence” is that the U.S. government wanted to prolong hostilities with Japan in order to drop the bombs; a purely political act of mass murder.

  121. Vinnie O says:

    I read a LOT of obscure books about WW2, and in one of them the author explains that it was mere Bureaucracy. There was a memo some place that said that one group of guys (the “atomic energy commission”??) would make bombs and a second group of guys (the Army Air Corps) would drop the bombs (i.e., ALL that were delivered). So the USAAF was already preparing to drop Bomb #3 when word came that the Japs wanted to surrender. So the USAAF scrubbed the mission.

    But keep in mind that the ONLY REASON FDR approved the Atom Bomb project at all was because the ONLY target on the original list was BERLIN. FDR didn’t care about the Japanese. THE purpose of The Bomb was to murder GERMAN mothers and babies in THEIR beds. But then the Germans surrendered and the US was stuck with this pile of A-Bombs. (“Hey, Charlie! What the hell do we do with ’em?” “I don’t know. Just drop ’em on the Japs or somebody…”)

    So bureaucratically, NOT dropping the bombs (ALL of ’em) was NEVER considered an option by the clerks in charge of “expending” them.

    • Replies: @Vinnie O
  122. Vinnie O says:
    @Vinnie O

    Oh, just to help you understand, target selection for Europe included a group of officers (ALL Target Analysts were commissioned officers) who were OPENLY called the “Baby Killers” during discussions of which cute little German towns were to go on the “terminate with extreme prejudice” list this month. By 1945, the “non-Baby Killers” had simply run out of rational reasons for NOT bombing the hell out of Dresden (um, it has no weapons factories, no military units are stationed there, and it’s a collection center for refugees on the Eastern Front…). So the US and the English spent 3 days bombing the city to hell so the bomber crews didn’t get bored. If we had had a nuke in Europe, I’m sure they would have thrown THAT in, too.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  123. Malla says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    Mr. Barett, I have an idea. Why not invite James Perloff on your show and Unz and have a discussion about WW2, history of American False Flags including 9/11 and Global Banking scam on all humanity. Mr. Perloff is of Jewish ancestry but he speaks out against Zionism and Globalism.

  124. @Kevin Barrett

    Years ago, I read “The Last 100 Days” by John Toland. If memory serves me correctly, Toland wrote that in January 1945, MacArthur’s command received unofficial peace overtures from the Japanese via the neutral Swiss. MacArthur forwarded the Japanese proposals to Washington, recommending that they be followed up on. Roosevelt, who was gearing up for his Yalta gig, commented that “Douglas is our greatest general, and our worst politician,” and dismissed the idea of negotiations.

  125. @Kevin Barrett

    Thanks for this link to your interview, Kevin.
    Unfortunately I was unable to easily access it on that page.
    Do you have a more direct link, please ? Thanks.

    Readers have been presented with a wealth of evidence above on the “Nanking Massacre”; additionally below is a link to the archive.org edition of “What Really Happened at Nanking” by Tanaka, Masaaki.
    I have a hard copy as the book was readily available a few years ago.

    The synopsis at Goodreads —

    This book, based on primary sources (Japanese, Chinese and Western historical documents and eyewitness accounts), contains all the important facts about the events that took place in Nanking in 1937. The documents include population statistics and burial records. Under instructions from Gen. Matsui, the author went on a fact-finding tour of Nanking and environs in 1938. Tanaka also exposes the fakery behind the photographs used in Iris Chang’s The Rape of Nanking.

    Thinking minds may find it useful to contemplate why unending propaganda of this nature continues today. Why a false and malicious story is promoted, the author then conveniently “committing suicide”. Why Japan was funded by Jewish bankers to wage war on the Russia, then after Royal family’s assassination and the triumph of (((bolshevism))) and Japan was anti-communist, it has obviously fallen from favour …
    Useful idiots need especially to ask themselves about this …

    https://archive.org/details/whatreallyhappen0000tana/mode/2up

    • Thanks: Malla
  126. @Harold Smith

    Okay.

    Basically you’re convinced American leaders of the era were murderous psychos, and finding reasons to justify that belief.

    Might be true, but as long you can’t produce evidence of this you are doing what you accuse me of (making up shit as you go along).

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  127. The is a lot of truth in this article:

    “All this points to an analysis that many in the West may resist: that the Asia-Pacific War was an imperial war fought over imperial possessions by combatants devoid of clean hands.”

    “There was no good and evil, on the combatant side at least. As one colonial master was as virtuous as another, precious little changed in the day-to-day lives of the only “good guys” within this narrative – the long-suffering people of Asia.

    “Appropriately, at the surrender of Japan, General MacArthur announced that with the signing of the “solemn agreement” of surrender, peace “may” be restored. The ambiguities contained within the word “may” made it a wise choice. The Asian region experienced precious little peace in the decades that followed. Western powers attempted to reinstate their colonies in defiance of Asian independence movements, and with force of arms.”

    “The Western imperial presence – of conquest and subjugation – within Asia was buttressed on a diligently maintained myth of white superiority, a philosophy every bit as repugnant as that maintained by Imperial Japan.”

    “It was known by several aliases – “The White Man’s Burden,” the “Civilizing Mission” or “Manifest Destiny.” But the principles were always the same: the right to rule on the basis of white skin.”

    https://asiatimes.com/2021/08/the-pacific-war-eastern-empire-vs-white-supremacy/

    And more:

    “For all of their misdeeds during the Asia-Pacific War, the Japanese were nonetheless successful in destroying the white-superiority creed in Southeast Asia. Consequently, the attempts of the West to reinstate imperial control after the surrender of Japan were doomed to fail. The spell had been broken. The inherent superiority of white skin was a myth in which the people of Asia no longer believed.”

    Instead, that “myth” now becomes the BELIEF of “inherent superiority of white skin” in the minds of racist japs like Jennifer Suzuki and Kara no Kyoukai:

    https://www.unz.com/aanglin/biden-government-just-keeps-sailing-warships-through-chinese-waters/#comment-4815889

    “The Japanese routed colonial armies. They forced Western prisoners of war to perform tasks that were previously the preserve of Asian laborers. They conducted humiliation marches, in which Japanese commanders paraded Western colonialists to their internment camps in full view of local populations. These tactics were tremendously successful in breaking the spell the West had cast over Asia.”

    But that “spell” then mutated its tactics and has taken up residence in the minds of the right-wing japs instead– like those of Suzuki and Kara no Kyoukai:

    https://www.unz.com/aanglin/xi-jinping-broken-heads-and-bloodshed-for-those-who-attempt-to-bully-china-people/#comment-4759790

    One might hope, however, in the future, that the West will give ground. A willingness to review the Asia-Pacific War through this prism of imperial philosophies might bring the West closer to a true understanding of what that war was actually about.

    Up to now, it has only made the West to have acquired an ambition to make China have NO ambitions– “a philosophy every bit as repugnant as that maintained by Imperial Japan”!!! The job of “bringing the West closer to a true understanding of what that war was actually about” will be left to China to accomplish!

    https://www.unz.com/aanglin/xi-jinping-broken-heads-and-bloodshed-for-those-who-attempt-to-bully-china-people/#comment-4761452

  128. @Thorfinnsson

    Basically you’re convinced American leaders of the era were murderous psychos, and finding reasons to justify that belief.

    No chumpy, I don’t need to “[find] reasons to justify” something that is painfully obvious to any reasonable person paying attention.

    Might be true, but as long you can’t produce evidence of this you are doing what you accuse me of (making up shit as you go along).

    LOL! If the evidence that “American leaders of the era were murderous psychos” (and almost every other era for that matter) were water, we’d be drowning in it. That you’re just being dishonestly contrary about it, reflects poorly on you not on me.

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
  129. R2b says:

    Very good show!
    Edward steps carefully, but also points to the facts.
    I think Kevin brought us a good posture when focusing on some other ”Holo-numbers”.

  130. @Harold Smith

    You are a low quality commenter and a low quality human being.

    I hope that on this glorious day, the anniversary of the purification of Nagasaki by atomic fire, that you and your seed are wiped from the Earth forever by the righteous atomic bomb.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  131. @Thorfinnsson

    You are a low quality commenter and a low quality human being.

    You’re supposed to be looking at your monitor, not your mirror, as you type your infantile jew drivel, knucklehead.

    I hope that on this glorious day, the anniversary of the purification of Nagasaki by atomic fire, that you and your seed are wiped from the Earth forever by the righteous atomic bomb.

    And I hope that you stop wasting bandwidth here and get back to painting swastikas on your front door or vandalizing the local jewish cemetery or whatever it is you generally do when you’re not making an ass out of yourself online.

  132. @Harold Smith

    … so the only logical conclusion a reasonable person could draw from an honest evaluation of all the “reams of evidence” is that the U.S. government wanted to prolong hostilities with Japan in order to drop the bombs; a purely political act of mass murder.

    Yep! murrika and japland deserved each other. But from the view point of the victims of Unit 731, the Rape of Nanking, the Rape of Manila,… the longer that war was dragged on, the more the cost the japs had to pay to MATCH the horror and the pain the japs had caused!

    I can’t see anything wrong with THAT.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  133. Hibernian says:
    @Harold Smith

    …and we have “reams of evidence” that top U.S. military officials were generally against the use of bombs (as being unnecessary to end the war and inhumane);

    Admiral Leahy, CNO: “Wars are not won by destroying women and children, and I was not taught to wage war that way.”

  134. @Vinnie O

    It’s rather like the ‘turkey-shoot’ on the Kuwait-Basra Highway in 1991. The Yanks obliterated fleeing people, military and civilian, defenceless to retaliate, until they ran out of ammo. Such ‘warriors’.

  135. Why was and is Germany treated so differently from Japan?

    Curtin laments the atomic bombing of Nagasaki & Hiroshima (correctly), but does not expend the same energy to condemn the equally-destructive, equally-deliberate and equally-criminal firebombing of 131 German cities.

    The differential treatment extended to prosecution of “war criminals” at the end of the hot-war extended to German vs Japanese physicians: German physicians were prosecuted for “war crimes,” and some were executed, but no similar trials were held to call Japanese physicians to account – – –

    United States Responses to Japanese Wartime Inhuman Experimentation after World War II: National Security and Wartime Exigency
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4487829/

    In 1945-46, representatives of the United States government made similar discoveries in both Germany and Japan, unearthing evidence of unethical experiments on human beings that could be viewed as war crimes. The outcomes in the two defeated nations, however, were strikingly different. In Germany, the U.S., influenced by the Canadian physician John Thompson, played a key role in bringing Nazi physicians to trial and publicizing their misdeeds. In Japan, the U.S. played an equally key role in concealing information about the biological warfare experiments and securing immunity from prosecution for the perpetrators. The greater force of appeals to national security and wartime exigency help to explain these different outcomes.

    – – – much less American medical war criminals

    https://tubitv.com/movies/566779/drugs-as-weapons-against-us?start=true

    )

  136. @Deep Thought

    Of course the fallback position taken by mentally and morally defective trolls such as yourself is that “the japs” (including women, children and the elderly living in non-militarily significant cities – none of whom had anything to do with any atrocities) deserved to be mass-murdered with indiscriminate fire-bombing and atomic bombing.

    • Replies: @Deep Thought
  137. @Harold Smith

    What had the civilians of Manila done to deserve these:

    http://www.battlingbastardsbataan.com/som.htm

    “Women were raped and sliced with bayonets from groin to throat and left to bleed to death in the hot sun.

    “Children were seized by the legs and had their heads bashed against the wall. Babies were tossed into the air and caught on bayonets. Unborn fetuses were gouged out with bayonets from pregnant women.”

    That was only in Manila. What happened in China was a thousand times worse.

    What does that say about “mentally and morally defective trolls” like YOU!

  138. ivan says:
    @Malla

    A constant of Soviet policy under Stalin was to get the Americans to fight the Japanese so that the Soviets did not have to worry about their Far East. Another constant of JV Stalin was to keep Chiang-Kai-Shek bogged down in fighting the Japanese. The Chicom farts ruling Peking have a guilty conscience somewhere in that Mao’s victory over Chiang was decisively enabled by the Soviet Union under Stalin.

    Another thing is that Harry Dexter White as you mention along with Harry Hopkins all happen to willingly serve the Communist interests.

    • Agree: Malla
  139. Raches says:
    @brabantian

    Evidence shows clearly that nuclear weapons have never existed.

    Evidence shows clearly that evidence that shows clearly that nuclear weapons have never existed has never existed.

  140. @Insouciant

    You made some good and valid points, however, I’m not promoting the exporting of Christianity. What I recommend is based on fact. America is a majority Christian nation, founded by Christians. Secularism obviously doesn’t work, and has led to the gross perversion of our basic morals; via pornography, diversity etc., along with corruption at every level of government. This can only lead to totalitarianism similar to China. There are only 2 options to running a nation and controlling a.large population. Totalitarianism or a State religion. There are other examples but brevity China represents the former and Russia the latter. We’ll see, as our nation crumbles and lurches towards the Chinese variety, how it works out for us.

  141. @Kevin Barrett

    Kevin, this is a very late reply but necessary. Since the 1917 Bolshevik revolution the USSR was supported by money from Wall Street and the US government. It is known that without the money the Soviet government would have collapsed by 1925. It doesn’t end there. I urge you to read Major Jordan’s diary. It’s free in pdf on line. In real time the FDR administration through Hopkins was funneling the Manhattan Project research to Soviet Russia, as evidenced by how fast they developed their own nukes. I believe the USA nuked Japan as a means to scare the shit out of firstly all Americans, secondly everyone else.
    The entire resulting cold war was by design fear porn. Kind of like covid today.
    Love your work.

  142. BigMik says:

    “Satanic Nature”?
    I would have tended to more readily apply that description to…I don’t know, the Rape of Nanking, the Korean “Comfort” Battalions, the Bataan Death March, Burma Death Railway, Forced Mass Suicides of Civilians on Okinawa.

    I figure the Tojos had it coming.
    And we would have done the World a big favor if we’d taken the next dozen we built and dropped them on Moscow, the Red Army, and the Red Chinese.
    East Germany, Baltic States, Eastern Europe would have thanked us.

    At least wiping out Mao would have spared The World Covid. Probably saved a bunch of Chinese and other Asians too.

    Uncle Sam has a ways to go to equal the Real 3-D World body counts (or Carbon emissions) of World Communism.
    But give the Mohammadans a few years, they’re on their way up.

    But no scenario is too rosy for America hating NeoCom revisionists.

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