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Every now and then something happens, something you catch on TV or read in a magazine, or hear in a conversation which signals just how disjunctive—how unbridgeable—the division is today between the different groups of people we call “Americans.” That division is growing greater, more irreparable and sharper by the day…and there is not much that can be done to heal it, barring some form of Divine intervention.

Talk of unity around commonly-held principles, indeed a common comprehension of what is actually real and what is not, no longer holds. Talk of “unity” in the America of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris is not only useless, it is, in essence, counter-productive and destructive to our understanding of what really has occurred and is occurring in society.

Thirty-five years ago a Ronald Reagan and a Tip O’Neill could differ considerably in their views, but then they could sit down over a beer and communicate using the same language and, significantly, invest it with the same meaning that they both agreed on. Forty years ago most Americans were, arguably, able not only to communicate with but, more importantly, to be understood by other members within society.

That no longer holds.

And it became radically and very personally apparent to me the other day.

I have a very dear friend, an old girlfriend whom I have known since we were small children. For years I considered her home like my home-away-from-home. I would spend a lot of time on weekends there. Her mother was a piano teacher, an old-school Southern Democrat, educated and even elegant in the sense of those “grande dames” that you sometimes read about in romantic Southern novels. Growing up my friend—let us call her Susan—shared most all the same views as I. We grew up when to be a conservative Democrat in North Carolina was not uncommon. True, times were changing, but that didn’t seem to affect us.

We graduated high school together and then went separate ways for college.

While I went away to the University of Virginia, finishing my MA in history there (as a Thomas Jefferson Fellow), and then on to Spain for a PhD, Susan went to the University of North Carolina in Chapel Hill (as did her future husband). Back then it was still possible to get a good education at this state’s premiere university without the contagion of political correctness or Critical Race Theory warping your education.

When I was overseas in Spain, and then in Switzerland and Argentina, I didn’t see as much of Susan as before. But when I finally returned permanently to North Carolina in 1981, we rekindled our friendship as if nothing had ever happened. Every major holiday and for birthdays we would gather to celebrate and remember times past.

This past year I did not talk with Susan much at all. This COVID madness seemed to have curtailed normal social interaction even between the closest of friends. But recently I telephoned her concerning a mutual friend who had entered Hospice. And the conversation turned to politics, the 2020 election, Donald Trump, and Joe Biden.

In a way our conversation stunned me…It probably shouldn’t have…I probably should have anticipated it. But given our past history and our close friendship, it still left me wondering—seriously—if this creaky old American republic could survive, if the extreme and radical differences that now are so ingrown and deep-seated could ever be overcome.

My realization now—my belief—is that they cannot, that there is no practical way to, as it were, “put Humpty-Dumpty back together again.”

Susan asked me what I thought of the January 6 “riot” in Washington. I responded in so many words that for the most part it may have been pre-planned in advance, that it had begun before President Trump had even finished his speech at the other end of the Mall some distance from the Capitol, and that he had specifically cautioned his supporters to be peaceful. I mentioned also that from what I had read some Antifa-types had intermingled with the relatively few folks who actually invaded the Capitol. While I condemned any destructive behavior on the part of those few dozen who were guilty, for the most part the news reports about the “riot” were overblown and were being used politically by the political Left.

Susan exploded as I had never heard her do before:

“Boyd, how can you spout such lies and false news? Haven’t you seen the news reports of how Trump encouraged the mob to invade the Capitol? It was an insurrection, an attempt to overthrow the government by force!”

Her anger and outrage took me by surprise. And after her initial outburst, I tried to respond:

“President Trump specifically cautioned his supporters at the rally to be peaceful and let their voices be heard, but to do it in an orderly and lawful fashion….” But before I could continue, Susan interrupted me:

“How can you say that? Trump didn’t say anything about being ‘peaceful’. He didn’t say that. He urged the mob to go in and take over the Capitol and overthrow the government by force! Where are you getting your news from—Fox or Newsmax? They are rightwing extremist media that make up all sorts of things…like the claim that Trump told his supporters to be peaceful. They probably just edited that in their reporting. It never happened.”

Literally, my mouth dropped open.

“Susan,” I responded, “I watched the speech live…and he did say that! He told his supporters to peacefully walk down to the other end of the Mall…and even before he finished saying that, there were some people in the Capitol… a long walk from where he was speaking. Didn’t you see that or know that?!”

And once again, she replied denying that my account of events was even close to the truth.

“None of what you say is true, Boyd…it’s all made up by those extremist media sources you use.”

A little later our conversation turned to the real riots that did happen last summer in Raleigh. I asked Susan if she had been downtown recently and seen the shuttered and boarded-up storefronts of what had previously been a prosperous and active commercial part of North Carolina’s capital city. Further, I tried to pinpoint the difference between that rampant violence and destruction and what had happened on January 6 in Washington.

Again, how Susan answered me was beyond reality.

“It was those Proud Boys and rightwing extremists who did all that violence…the Black Lives Matter demonstrators were peaceful, just wanting justice.”

When I retorted that members of Proud Boys were nowhere to be seen in the riots in Raleigh, that even our state’s Democratic leftist governor got out and marched with the BLM rioters, once again I was met with a swift denial.

In other words: “who you gonna believe, me or your lying eyes?”

At that, Susan applied what was apparently meant to be the coup de grace in our discussion.

“You do know, don’t you, that it is beyond debate that all those riots and Trump’s call for a rebellion—all of that came from Russia, with support from Putin. He wants to destroy our democracy [sic!]. Trump has been his agent all along!”

No matter the Mueller Report, even though it was confected by leftist Democrats who could find no substantial proof for that accusation. It still was true, and for me to question pervasive Russian influence was simply “en dehors de tout debat”—outside any legitimate debate. Logically, since I and seventy-four million Americans dared to cast a vote for Trump, we, too, had become useful idiots (at best) or knowing agents (at worst) for that evil puppeteer in the Kremlin!

By this time it was abruptly clear that Susan and I existed in different universes, in different realities, that no actual communication was possible, at least on the essential understanding and nature of what was occurring in present-day America. But, also for me, more profoundly, what had happened in this brief very personal and minor exchange (in the far greater scheme of things), was eerily illustrative of something which had happened all across the old republic created with such hope in 1787.

Back on December 2, 2020 in my blog, I authored a piece which was then printed by LewRockwell.com on December 4: “Triumph of the Pod People: What the 2020 Election Really Means.” In that piece, which was accessed by thousands of readers on my Web site, I made reference to the classic, campy 1956 horror movie, “Invasion of the Body Snatchers,” about extraterrestrial beings who were transported to earth as vegetable pods and who took over the bodies of sleeping, unaware human beings, and possessed them, turning them essentially into robotic creatures who continued to look like real humans but weren’t.

And I declared since the events of November and December 2020 that imagery had come back to me:

With all the increasing discussion of “two Americas,” of a country—our geographical entity—irreconcilably divided in which not only interests, values and beliefs radically and sharply differ, but inhabitants can no longer communicate, even though they supposedly speak the same language, that imagery of six decades ago becomes more a fulfilled prophecy than science fiction….

I was not suggesting that our progressivist fellow citizens had actually been possessed by aliens. No, rather,

…the virus of a highly contagious (post-)Marxist venom in our culture has infected millions of our fellow citizens and exacted a tremendous toll—that it has been percolating for many decades in our institutions, oftentimes just below the surface—that its initial target was our educational system (and media)—and that its major accomplishment has been to persuade us to accept as undeniable, dogmatic truth, the idea of irreversible and steadily-advancing Progress which its self-appointed heralds and standard-bearers continuously proclaim and update as they see fit.

A few years earlier I wrote in the traditionalist Catholic fortnightly, The Remnant (June 30, 2017), about what I termed the “triumph of lunacy” in Western society, that millions of our fellow inhabitants in the United States,

…live in a parallel universe, with its own set of foundational beliefs, its own standards of truth and narrative of facts. This universe in almost every respect represents the aggressive contrary, the negation, of the inherited, rooted principles on which our historic Western and Christian civilization is based. This “other” reality, this paradigm, did not all of a sudden just spring up or just appear, it has been cultivated and nurtured for centuries. Its creating philosophers understood that their operational premises and desired objectives ran up full force against the ingrained traditions and historic legacy of a culture and civilization that traced its origins not only to the beliefs of the ancient Hebrews, but also to the highest art and philosophy and statecraft of the Greeks and of Rome.

Folks like Susan—yes, my dear friend of sixty years—offer us a new inverted reality. They tell us that we are the ones who are outside the bounds of sanity, that we accept “fake” and false ideas and accounts of what is happening. They proclaim that they are striving to “defend our democracy” and further justice and liberty. But their template—their revolution—is a form of projection which turns rationality on its head and enslaves them in unrequited passions, unbound and unreasoned, cocooned in a pseudo-reality, at the service of what is essentially a satanic Revolution. It is, to paraphrase the great English Catholic essayist and poet G. K. Chesterton, the definition of real lunacy.

In his volume, The Poet and the Lunatics (1929), Chesterton’s character Gale asks the question: “What exactly is liberty?” He responds, in part : “First and foremost, surely, it is the power of a thing to be itself [as God intended].… We are limited by our brains and bodies; and if we break out, we cease to be ourselves, and, perhaps, to be anything. The lunatic is he who loses his way and cannot return.”

The American revolutionaries who now dominate our government, our broadcasting media, and who indoctrinate gullible, nearly soul-less students in supposed “centers of higher education,” are, to use Chesterton’s parable, lunatics: men “already outside the world of reason.” They dwell in a virtual counter-reality, with a scarcely disguised rage to destroy our traditional civilization and our very way of thinking. And no dissent from that agenda will be tolerated in their new definition of what is real and what is not.

In short, they are modern “pod people.” In 2021 they have almost all the trump cards. They have recaptured much of the momentum they lost in November 2016 when an upstart billionaire from New York partially blocked their seemingly irreversible march toward a new reality and a progressivist utopia.

Sadly for me, my friend Susan has been swept up into that counter-reality, and nothing I can say, no proof I can put forward challenging her “facts” will change her.

For her—and for millions of modern “pod people” like her—I and those like me are the lunatics, psychologically part of the “Trump cult,” and not the reverse.

In a speech given in 1858 Abraham Lincoln, an individual I rarely quote and generally dislike, famously declared (plagiarizing St. Matthew 12:25): “A house divided against itself cannot stand.”

We are there now.

(Republished from LewRockwell by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. That’s sad it happened to your friend. It happened to a family member of mine as well, and talking with them is useless. Even if you go the extra mile to bridge the gap, speak respectfully and plainly, make concessions on your reality trying to get them to understand that you are not crazy or a “white supremacist”, they appear to have been radicalized into a quasi-religion. I’m not sure what forces are responsible for this, but I bet social media companies and governments have learned how to radicalize and essentially hypnotize people through curating their media and especially social media environments. They’ve probably experimented at home and abroad with this. Lots of screen time and continually applied little bite sized bits of information – an video clip here, an authoritative figure’s words there – reduced attention spans and you can control a person’s beliefs with a wide range of malleability.

    • Agree: Bull Gator
  2. These pasts 10 months, I have had a very similar experience as you with your old friend. An old friend from school days spent a bit if time and money to get in touch with me after an over 10-year absence.

    But in the ensuing 11 years and especially in the last 6, I had become shocked and appalled and more by the way the ideologues and lunatics on my former home on the left were talking and acting and speaking.

    My friend and I at first had warm emails, phone calls and finally FaceTimes and he made plans to come see me in the distant town in which I live. It was supposed to be in April but he became so afraid of the virus that he postponed it until late September. As he was making his final prep he said he intended to stay at my home from 2-4 days.

    Well, he got to my house and we proceeded to talk, drink and eat. I guess I should have known something was amiss when–months earlier–he put down my reliance on hydroxychloroquine, repeating the false mantra that it was dangerous

    Well, not sure what it was that happened, but he woke up early the next day and told me he was leaving. He’d been there less than 14 hours. He gave a flimsy excuse, but he was quickly gone.

    Over the next few months, no doubt provoked by my emails attempting to delve deeper into his belief system, I discovered that he believed in a series of delusions, and any questioning of them he would then demand evidence and then when given it he would spend his hours attempting to debunk the evidence. He would rely on Snopes or other false fact checkers.

    It was maddening. And it was disheartening. Pod people indeed. Something had taken over him and many others. And he wasn’t alone. Old members of my own family appeared the same, except I (wisely) chose to leave that alone with them. But I couldn’t leave it alone with him.

    I finally decided I had to part ways at least for now and told him our beliefs were just too different in this current time, and I was no longer interested in competing fact checkers. In my view, if a friend tells you something he has learned and/or observed, you don’t fact check him. You at least entertain the thought that he might be credulous.

    I do not see how the United States can defend itself from large homogeneous countries like Russia and China (and even Iran). We are sitting ducks and have become the laughing stock of the entire world.

    My friend may not understand this yet. But I have an idea he and all of those other lunatics will find this fact out in relatively short order. Abe Lincoln indeed.

  3. If Susan is a Christian, then showing her this brief video may help break the spell. It wasn’t in Raleigh, but in Charlotte that BLM revealed their true nature.

    • Replies: @Minnesota Mary
  4. This Pod People is more fun. And it even has Trumpy in it!

  5. The zombie movies prepared us for the woke. I’m sorry your friend was bitten. Zombies are ugly, stupid and aggressive. They are easily destroyed but deadly because they hunt in packs. Mobs, actually. Best they be avoided. Normal people must find ways to seperate themselves from the Woke.

    STOP THE HATE
    SEPARATE

    • Replies: @Z-man
    , @Bull Gator
  6. Truth says:
    @restless94110

    Hey Dawg,

    Ol’ Hickory wanted me to show you this, and tell you he’d make you the same bet…

    https://worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video-c.php?v=wshhJUVX6U6XCG8U5pkc#comments-arena

    • Troll: restless94110
  7. Some might say that what part of what explains the behaviour of Boyd Cathey’s anonymous old friend ‘Susan’, is how some older women simply go a bit crazy in our society, crazier than men of the same age

    Is ‘Susan’ still with her husband? Did she have children? One or two ‘no’ answers to these, some say, would make the craziness likelihood worse, and increase the woman’s obsession with shrilly parroting mainstream group-think narratives

    The grounding of women’s minds is more lost, it is said, as traditional society declines, for older ones even worse … But of course it’s maybe sexist etc to think along these lines

    Are ‘shitelib’ males as nutty? The feminised ones, maybe … but it is easier to bring them back down to earth … they will more quickly stop pushing the nonsense at you, and just grow silent on the subject

  8. an upstart billionaire from New York…

    Sadly for me, my friend Susan has been swept up into that counter-reality…

    Look, I voted for the man twice and would do so again, but why is anybody surprised that a Southern grande dame is put off by a New Yorker with bad manners? Isn’t that to be expected?

  9. anonymous[400] • Disclaimer says:

    One more person falls victim to the full-spectrum 24/7 relentless Orwellian propaganda machine that America happens to be. We’re living in the center of the greatest propaganda machine in the history of the world and it’s so effective people don’t even realize it. They think propaganda is something the Russians or Chinese do but not us. Little do they realize.

    • Replies: @michael888
    , @Rurik
  10. Woody says:

    Sorry to hear about the intransigence and hostility of your long time friend, Dr. Cathey, but let me catch up on some biographical elements from your piece. Am I correct to make the following matches:
    Spain – Navarra
    Switzerland – Econe
    Argentina- La Reja?

    In any case, keep up all the good work.

  11. Biff says:

    I had a similar fallout with my conservative friends when W Bush and the (non-conservative)neo-cons went on a liberal/moral crusade in the greater Middle East(“Saddam and 9/11 were connected” was the battle cry) – Pod-people that fell in line. Al least some of them later atoned for their wayward lapse in judgment, but I’m not so sure the left will do the same.

  12. gotmituns says:

    As far as that “riot” in DC goes, it wasn’t serious. It was an obvious dumb show. We haven’t gotten anywhere near “serious” yet. I’ll give you an example of a serious man. That guy who blew himself up in Nashville, Christmas morning was a serious man, no matter how nuts he was. I’ll bet every last penny I’ve got he wasn’t wearing a cape and buffalo horns when he ended it all.

    • Replies: @Anonymouse
  13. Gizmo880 says:

    Almost identical experience with a lifelong friend of 35 years. I once thought my friend, Missy, was the closest thing to an identical soul twin I had. Now she has fallen under the spell of the left wing media, repeating the stupid mantras of Social Justice, Black Lives Matter, Orange Man Bad, and all of the lies of the Covid non-pandemic. It is like being in a real life Walking Dead reality, once someone gets ‘bit’ with the propaganda of the left, they cease being capable of any kind of rational thought. It is truly one of the most painful soul searching experiences of my life to see the two of us diverge so completely.

  14. anon[206] • Disclaimer says:

    White people like this (I would assume that she’s white) who have scheiße für Gehirne, I have no pity for them and they deserve the worst that’s coming for them. As for the rest of people who’s brains haven’t turned to scheiße, I feel sorry for them having to live in this hell like reality that has been created first by the Covid and now with the Biden dictatorship.

  15. It is unsurprising women surrounded by weak and Godless men end up like this.

  16. I’ve never hesitated to cut friends loose once they go bad. It’s a talent, really. I do it so quickly and effortlessly that they’re stunned. And it’s always permanent.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
  17. MattinLA says:

    Yes. I live in So. Cal., Where they believe white supremacists live under every bed, and Trump hatred is a religion. My 80 year old mother has a “In this house we believe… poster in her front yard. My wife spouts shibolleths learned from the NY Times. We are truly fucked….

    • Replies: @Hacienda
  18. Nice article. I also have similar stories, but, from both sides—the political right and left.

    Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter. Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight.

    Isaiah 5:20-21

  19. @Barack Hussein Obama

    Been living at the home of my kid sister and family for the past several months as my home in the Northwoods is in serious need of reconstruction. We’re a half generation apart in age and worlds apart in outlook and attitude about cultural and political matters. That half generation split meant that I grew up in an intensely rural area with an integrated set of common sense values which formed the basis for a gradually developing skepticism towards received “authority” after our family became economic refugees and were obliged to move to a major metro.

    Contrary to my experience, sister arrived in the city well before her third birthday and by the time she reached kindergarten age our family had again resettled, this time to a first-tier suburb. Though I had adapted fairly well to life in the city, there was something about the burb which gradually repelled me. To quote Gertrude Stein “there (was) no there there”. No sidewalks in residential areas. Not many stores on the nearby major streets. Nothing to engender a sense of community.

    Ultimately she grew up in a realityscape which was best described by Andy Warhol’s “Neon-Plastic Inevitable”…or the Beatles’ “Strawberry Fields Forever”…Strawberry Fields being a housing estate on the fringes of Liverpool. Reality abstracted is how I see those trends now. So her life experiences centered on schooling to get a good job. Informationally, her universal umbilical-cord became Boobtoob Noose. Back in the day it was already hypnotic, sensesurroundive. Walter Cronkite (the surname means “illness” in the Teutonic languages) and Huntley-Brinkley were the evening dosages. Now its that slick presenter on ABC, that guy with the modulated voice, betrayed by hardshell eyes. The lies and distortions are even more tangible on CNN. Not even the vaguest sense of objectivity or fairness.

    Trump, possessed of an asshole personality, in part due to being raised with a silver spoon up his butt, provided the perfect foil for her suburban soccer mom Minnesota nice worldview. My take is that the vast majority of Kamala Foote/Juiceless Joe voters did not vote FOR them but against the ogre which the media, through highly selective cuts and splicings, used to create an aura of distaste and revulsion for Trump.

    In some ways acceptable to elements of the cabal, Trump exercised a wild-card, loose-cannon side which the “well-adjusted” Normies and Normas simply could not abide. His supporters, mostly working class, delighted, though, in his denunciations of “fake news”. and the Deep $tate. Intuitively they understood that the deck was stacked against the people and his comments struck them as a much needed breath of fresh air.

    Mass media management of perception via memes of mesmerization and mind-control has hardly been alone in driving any elements of common sense out of the available marketplace of ideas. This has been particularly true in the world of academia. Sitzfleisch philosophy and idiotology dominate in the ivied halls of academe. Narrow-minded specialization within infinitely particularized disciplines in the generality of edjoomacation, combined with an ever more prevalent reduction of critical thinking in essentially all non hard-science studies has resulted in the “woke” phenomenon among huge number of people sporting extra letters behind their surnames. In my estimation “woke” indicates the polar opposite of “awakened”. They exist in a domain of post-hypnotic suggestion.

    Ironic, is it not, that those individuals who ought to be providing cultural and social leadership for our ruptured republic happen to be programmed minor minions who are becoming wildly successful in following the Bank$ter agenda of demolishing human liberty.

  20. @brabantian

    See my response to BHO’a initial assessment. Yes, there is a problem with many women, particularly the ones who have been taken away by economic and social presumed necessities to go out and get college/university trained for “good jobs”. Their traditional roles as wives and mothers have been relegated to the back seat, but nevertheless only modestly supplemented by their spouses, who themselves have difficulty adjusting to “life in the fast lane”.

    Contrary to the generality of males, women have socialization and emotional needs which simply are not being met by contemporary suburban lifestyles. Women need each other for support and to get things off their stultified emotional patterns. Except for those who find some solace in church associations, or oppositely in drinking or coffeehouse establishments, there are no venues in which they can gather and “Kaffe-klatsch”.

    Living in a culture which is essentially an emotional void…a “great wasteland” to quote or paraphrase T.S. Eliot and Newton Minnow…American women are cast adrift in a world of emotional void. They reach out and hubby is self-medicating via sports and sonny by gaming. So the males in their lives are not there to fill in the blanks they so intensely feel. So they retreat into that familiar world of soap-operas and the evening boobtoob noose, where they are instructed as to how to react to a world gone crazy. Their reactions are carefully programmed to hype the craziness and give it an air of hysteria.

    Hysterical women are the ultimate sign of a society on the skids.

    • Agree: Nancy
    • Replies: @Ugetit
  21. I have pinpointed the intellectual fault line of which Dr. Cathey speaks. This is the essence: Do you recognize all establishment media and Democrat-led government agencies are engage in pathological gas lighting of the American public? On the face of it, that proposition sounds absolutely absurd and even impossible. But that is exactly what is happening. One must recognize the diabolical spiritual forces relentlessly pursuing this agenda. Dr. Cathey’s lady friend lacks spiritual discernment and love of Truth. We are all dealing with family and friends like Cathey’s friend. It is both isolating and terrifying to behold. God help us.

    • Agree: Adam Smith
  22. US government…

    No to Transparency

    Yes to Transgender

    • LOL: Bro43rd
  23. Wally says:

    It’s one thing to have differences with people when those differences are a choice of various possibilities.

    It’s quite another when those that you differ with have views which are simply impossible.

    There is nothing that fits that description better than the so called “holocaust” narrative and it’s True Believers.

    A person must want or need to believe it’s tales; tales that defy laws of science, logic, & rational thought.

    “These Holocaust deniers are very slick people. They justify everything they say with facts and figures.” – Steven Some, Chairman of the New Jersey Commission on “Holocaust Education”, Newark Star-Ledger, 23 Oct. 1996, p 15

    “One must not ask oneself how, technically, such a mass-murder was possible. It was technically possible, since it happened.” – 34 French speaking “historians”, Le Monde, February 21, 1979, p. 23

  24. Jewish-run media told us…

    1. Mostly peaceful protests

    2. Baseless accusations of electoral fraud

    ‘Mostly peaceful’ and ‘Baseless’.

    Jews have turned US into an ethnocratic tyranny but preach to us about ‘democracy’.

    • Replies: @Ugetit
  25. dimples says:

    Brilliant article. Masterpiece. Mind you I’m reading it while stoned, but objectively I think it’s very good indeed.

    • Agree: Polemos
    • Replies: @Dr. Charles Fhandrich
  26. @brabantian

    “but it is easier to bring them [men] back down to earth …”
    You’d hope, wouldn’t you? I have my doubts. “Wokeism” is very addictive.
    1. It’s religion — a set of axiomatic beliefs, held unquestionly — ie security & certainty.
    2. It’s “virtuous” — one can feel the “good” flowing thru you as you push your beliefs forward.
    3. It’s popular — you are a member of a (possible) majority. How good it feels to part of a “movement” for “betterment”.
    Russian communists, English Puritans & German Nazis spring to mind as experiencing such “enlightenment”.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  27. I can’t speak to my brother any more – get ad hominemed, and just give up -, and whilst my friend circle thinks that I am now some kinda Nazi, the covid thing is at least raising some eyebrows – I get the ‘don’t want to sound like Ilya, but..’ line, which is at least possibly cracks in their glass house of a reality.

    Two types of people in the world – ones that were taught what to think, and ones that learnt how to think for themselves. I ponder more than I read, but here Schopenhauer in Chapter 1 of his Essays and Aphorisms accurately split people into thinkers and readers. Sadly I think the readers are falling one level lower and are now just becoming listeners, followers.

    I point friends to sites like https://hcqmeta.com/ when discussing HCQ or vitamins, asking them to just look at the actual data, but I get almost 0 hits, and then the dream of any honourable recanting of past anger/error remains a dream.

    The dying embers of the Enlightenment, as someone else said, but also a return to the Planet of the Apes.

  28. Anonymous[661] • Disclaimer says:

    “The American revolutionaries who now dominate our government, our broadcasting media, and who indoctrinate gullible, nearly soul-less students in supposed “centers of higher education”… “

    Oh for fuck’s sake, Boyd, just nommez le juif and be done with it.

    • Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter
  29. Schuetze says:

    Luckily I am at arms distance in a completely different, but likely even more acrimonious, civil war in my wife’s family. Her father died a couple of years ago, and her sister moved in with her sweet 94 year old 15 x great-grandmother.

    My wife and I both are thoroughly in the “vaccine denier” camp. My wife’s sister, approaching 70, is in the “wait and see if these vaccines are safe” camp. My wife’s brother, also approaching 70, is firmly in the Trump hating, environmentalist, vaccine lover camp. Recently he has gone on a rampage demanding that Grandma get vaccinated. Since then there has been a long and sorry string of accusations and rebuttals over email, whatsapp, and telephone calls. Poor Grandma is stuck in the middle but says she doesn’t want the vaccination.

    The vax-o-phile brother has become downright abusive. One of his main charges, while refusing to refute numerous articles sent to him, is that “you can find anything you want on the internet”. He insists that his cancer doctor “really knows what is going on” and insists that Grandma should get the vax, and that the two sisters are being “selfish”.

    The brother has had a lot of health problems including prostate cancer over the last decade. I think that America is to a large degree over-medicated and that this explains the US has turned into the land of Karen.

    • Agree: Peripatetic Itch
    • Replies: @Mustapha Mond
    , @Adam Smith
  30. Cathey, you seem to be a pretty much seasoned and experienced man. I should you assume you know things, theoretical and historical-political, more than I.

    For example… what happened when Russia became the Soviet Union. What happened with the media of communication of the day, and what happened with the education sector of the day, and what, then, happened with the minds of most people, and their familial, friendly, love, relationships.
    For example, the dialogue between Jesus and the Grand Inquisitor, in that book of Dostoevsky’s: remember? One person in ten thousand is free, can stand freedom (of that one, you can expect that he/she cannot stand the reverse of freedom, of course). One in one thousand.

    The human mind leans towards untruth so heavily that you can take it for granted, who lies best will always be believed best by the most.
    So if you hope for peace, you have to hope not too skilled liars take the wheel: however, people will tend to choose them, and to trust them. Because people do tend to run on truth, and despise truth: and you can’t have truly different attitudes between the individual and inner, and the social and political. This hasn’t been the case in the USA, now by a long time.

    Melancholy aside, I should, and I do assume you know all of this, and what more I could add to this, since before I have known it.
    I agree with your feeling of serious sadness, however.

    • Thanks: Polemos
  31. In the innocent years before my military service and my State University education, I worked with a young woman in a restaurant. We became fast friends. We created many special memories. Politics was not on either of our agendas in 1993. Fast forward to 2021. I’ve been “friends on Facebook” with her for a few years now after casually reconnecting with her online several years ago. Bottom line: she’s a liberal Trump hater and I can only image that the admiration and respect once held for me by her, and vice versa, is gone. We don’t speak, let alone the same language.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  32. GMC says:

    Susan must be a regular at Salon – the dumbest democratic website out there – Veterans Today rates there too sometimes. I can’t believe how cowardly and Psyopsie the comment regulators at both website and others are . Unz Review is the finest site so far. Thanks.

    • Agree: Mustapha Mond
  33. theMann says:

    When you meticulously document the facts, testimony, supporting videos, demonstrate the logical constructions necessitated by the facts, synthesizing the truth,

    And,

    The person you show the truth to rejects the truth, there is a term for that person:

    Damned.

    Forget you former friend and move on, for she is already Damned, and will only move from lie to lie.

  34. anonymous[148] • Disclaimer says:
    @animalogic

    Agreed, it’s definitely a religion. A book entitled The True Believer: Thoughts on the Nature of Mass Movements (Hoffer, 1951) addresses these fanatics, including communism, nazism, Christianity–the Puritanism you noted is merely one nutty variant–and now Wokesterism. I’m re-reading my copy now, before it gets Suessed.

    • Replies: @gotmituns
    , @animalogic
  35. Message to Boyd Cathey: Your friend Susan is a mind-controlled moron.

    Anyone who watches the MSM at all (other than for sheer comedic value, or more appropriately, as a forceful and effective emetic) is a hopeless idiot.

    Time to move on……

  36. It’s extremely interesting, this opposing mentality of the masses. It’s really bizarre in the case of Americans who, as the opposing parties here apparently are, grew up in a U.S. that was relatively peaceful and prosperous, offering them many decent opportunities for a great life. What is it that the Susan’s of the U.S. found and find so unbearable about their life in the U.S. to have changed their attitudes so radically?

    I submit that it can only be one thing, to wit, they are victims of the most subtle and devious brainwashing to have ever been perpetrated on the citizens of a modern society and that this brainwashing was successful because of some pre existing weakness(s) in their character, making them especially vulnerable to its workings.

    • Agree: GMC
  37. mcohen says:

    The trouble started when hillary clinton was denied.
    Women were finally ready to embrace a female president and they got humpty trumpty instead.That pissed them off big time.
    Then there was the fappening which pissed off Hollywood females and boiling point was reached.
    They wacked Harvey and Jeff straight away and many others quietly resigned from there positions of power with the metoo movement.
    Blm stands for bitches lives matter.Notice how few women were at Jan 6 compared to the leftist antifa riots.
    I would say that kamala harris is the beginning.

    Thats where it is heading.

    The guy who wrote this article and many like him just do not get it.”Susan” is the pissed off universal women.
    And no,I am not a pussy whipped man.I see the future quiet clearly.

    Want to hear a good joke.The truth

    I was on 4 chan /pol in 2016 before the election and there was pics of clintons hip xrays being bandied about and discussed.I thought to myself there and then.Trump will get 4 years and 4 days and then there will be humble pie for the next 4

    • Replies: @Corrupt
  38. @dimples

    Friend, sadly, today, we are living in a U.S. and Western World where being stoned is almost a prerequisite to being able to read the crap that is written with any degree of attention. I exempt this excellent article of course from that torrent of crap that is written, mostly created by demented and unbalanced leftists.

  39. @Ilya G Poimandres

    There are many other types. For instance, I know not few people who think for themselves, but are emotionally-mentally structured differently, so they come to different, frequently idiotic conclusions- and stick to them.

    There is more to crazies than just brainwashing ….

    • Agree: Ilya G Poimandres
    • Replies: @Ilya G Poimandres
  40. Susan went to the University of North Carolina in Chapel Hill …

    See, now there’s your problem right there, Mr. Cathey. Seriously, I read that this was long ago, but I also didn’t read anything about her moving away from that locale*. That place is as lefty as it gets nowadays.

    By any chance, does she go to the Unitarian Church? Just askin …

    I haven’t seen an article of yours on here in a long while, Mr. Cathey – I just checked, and the last one on unz was over a year back. i like your writing style and opinions, so I hope you’ll have more here on the Unz Reveiew soon.

    .

    * Your home too, as I recall, and I know you don’t want to give out any more details than you did, for anonymity.

  41. @gotmituns

    He believed in shape-shifting lizards and at the same time had great insight into manipulating computers and the mechanical world in general. Is there a connection?

  42. @anonymous

    While the CIA has been spreading propaganda illegally since its inception after WWII, the propaganda machine was unleashed by Obama is 2013 with the Abolition (“modernization”) of the Smith Mundt anti-propaganda Act, which allows CIA narratives to be the only source of information spewed by their henchmen/ minions, the Main Stream Media. For any Police State to be successful it must control the “NEWS”. Only one Narrative allowed, and many stories spiked (or delayed until after the Elections). No dissension or discussion allowed, even by well-qualified scientists on SARS-COV2. We are now ruled by the Intelligence Agencies.

    “We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.” — CIA Director William Casey

    • Replies: @Ugetit
  43. anonymous[148] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jeffrey A Freeman

    It’s instructive to note in the comments, including yours, how many of the “pod” people wear a pad during their monthly. Repeal the 19th Amendment; there is no way to maintain a healthy society with pad people who get to vote but aren’t qualified to sign up with the Selective Service. And I doubt many of the few white males who voted for Ho’n’Jo could even pass a military physical.

    Politics has become a gigantic war-of-the-sexes shit test, with Democrat-voting females playing “lets you and him fight” with their Democrat-voting immigrant darkies. Now-disenfranchised white males are failing it. Repeal that 19th by any means necessary.

    • Replies: @theMann
  44. Ugetit says:
    @Majority of One

    Hysterical women are the ultimate sign of a society on the skids.

    And hysterical “men” are the proof.

    I’m sure you’ll agree that there are precious few real men in the USSA but plenty of mindless assholes. Fortunately, though it’s unpleasant, it’s easy enough to deal with the innumerable insufferable fools; all one has to do is snarl back and that shuts ’em up and puts ’em in their pitiful places “toot sweet.”

    Damn, this cesspool of a society is irritating!

    • Replies: @Majority of One
  45. gotmituns says:
    @anonymous

    Eric Hoffer was a brilliant man. A man who worked with his hands all his life. He told an interviewer who asked him where he got his ideas and he replied he got them from the men he was working with down in the hold of a ship (he was a longshoreman).

    • Agree: Not Only Wrathful
  46. bj0311 says:

    This nonsense has been with us for a long time, but in this century it is on overdrive. I remember when I was at Ft Benning, GA standing around with a group of my fellow infantry lieutenants. My wise and witty friend from South Carolina asked me, “Do you know the difference between a liberal and a conservative?” Thinking it was a joke I said “No. what is it?” But it wasn’t a joke it was a demonstration because he walked up to one of the two liberals in the group and politely asked him a question. The liberal just started screaming and yelling, but my friend just walked away smiling and walked up to another guy and asked the same question. This guy just started asking clarifying questions, but my friend only interested in the demonstration came back to me and asked, “See now?” leaving the other guys looking puzzled. I have long forgotten what question he asked, but I have never forgotten the demonstration. These left-wingers are only able to process things emotionally and those of us who respond to reason will never be able to cross that incommunicable divide.

    • Agree: theMann
  47. Ugetit says:
    @Priss Factor

    Jews have turned US into an ethnocratic tyranny but preach to us about ‘democracy’.

    And the goyim, for the most part, have long ago submitted willingly.

  48. @Schuetze

    One word of advice for you, amigo: fratricide.

    (Just kidding. Sort of.) 😉

    • Replies: @Schuetze
  49. @Ilya G Poimandres

    “The dying embers of the Enlightenment, as someone else said, but also a return to the Planet of the Apes.”

    “…return to the Planet of the Apes”?

    We never left……

    • Agree: Marckus
  50. @Ilya G Poimandres

    Two types of people in the world – ones that were taught what to think, and ones that learnt how to think for themselves.

    Unfortunately, Ilya, Big-Ed encourages, or, I should say, produces the former. More parents must work to increase the 3rd category: those who are taught to think for themselves.

    • Replies: @Ilya G Poimandres
  51. MLK says:

    For better or for worse, my impulse is to zig whenever most people are zagging. In other words, playing the devil’s advocate. Though as this author details, along with the first commenters I read, it’s exceedingly difficult to even get that ball rolling in the instant context.

    This shouldn’t surprise when mainstream, even prestige, media deploys cult tactics non-stop. While they’re shifting to garden variety (communist/fascist) state media with Trump out, the business with interrupting and shouting at targets, not the least POTUS Trump, was designed (quite effectively) to agitate, if not make crazy.

    But it didn’t go according to their plan. Trump didn’t retreat into the presidential bubble. He not only returned to that arena nearly every day, but he was always the first in and last out.

    Consider the effects of this. Of course, ever-expanding MAGA ate it up. For elites and the Nomenklatura, those who had spent a lifetime convincing themselves their shit doesn’t stink, he made them feel bad about themselves, and more so with the daily arrival of more Winning, Winning, Winning.

    Don’t take my comment as flippant. If you have even cursory knowledge of the run-up to The Civil War you know The American Project is in for more hard days. But don’t believe the cruel lie that “we’re a 50-50 divided nation.” The Pareto Principle (80/20) is more accurate, at least as the rubber meets the road. In other words, yes, an overly generous 20% are troublemakers, whether driven by ideology, corruption, or even worse malefactions.

    The rest of the purported 50% are upset and confused. Like, I’m confident, this author’s estranged friend. In my experience they’d rather die than admit that Trump beat them the old-fashioned way, was a great, real POTUS, and refused to concede their monumental election fraud. But most especially that MAGA had such a good time of it.

    For the fellow travelers, if you will, I have nothing but condescending empathy. I’m willing to give them as much time as they need to admit they shit their pants and go clean themselves up. What a bunch of big babies — we didn’t make such a spectacle out of ourselves during Obama’s disastrous eight years, which included giving a pass to those responsible for Bush’s disastrous years before him!

    • Agree: Peripatetic Itch
  52. A former co-worker of mine in media is your “Susan” with testicles.

    He and I used to have lively arguments about politics and come away friends. Now, because I don’t wear a mask (he wore 2 before it was cool) and won’t sign on to the Trump Is Hitler bandwagon, I’m trying to kill people.

    He also is on the “Putin Controls Trump” team. The only thing I can figure is that these Marxist hate him because he has rejected the tenets of the Soviet Union. Putin seems to be the only world leader that not only admits Christian faith but, refuses to kowtow to GloboHomo.

    One truly ironic stance is that this friend of mine used to scream bloody murder about “corporate exploiters” and “the rich (Republicans)” that were undermining our Great Land. I would defend free markets to little avail. Now, when I point out the Klaus Schwab, Bill Gates, Bezos plans to turn the world into one big plantation, he DEFENDS them.

    True insanity.

  53. bayviking says:

    Anybody here seen my old friend Abraham?
    Can you tell me where he’s gone?
    He freed a lot of people but it seems the good, they die young
    You know I just looked around and he’s gone

    Anybody here seen my old friend John?
    Can you tell me where he’s gone?
    He freed a lot of people but it seems the good, they die young
    I just looked around and he’s gone

    Anybody here seen my old friend Martin?
    Can you tell me where he’s gone?
    He freed a lot of people but it seems the good, they die young
    I just looked around and he’s gone

    Didn’t you love the things that they stood for?
    Didn’t they try to find some good for you and me?
    And we’ll be free
    Someday soon, it’s gonna be one day

    Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
    Can you tell me where he’s gone?
    I thought I saw him walkin’ up over the hill
    With Abraham, Martin and John

  54. saggy says:

    I don’t believe this story, that is, I think the writer is lying. His characterization of ‘Susan’ doesn’t ring true.

    And, that’s not the only problem with the article. His firmly held belief that Trump urged the people in the crowd to be ‘peaceful’ is preposterous. Trump did say early in the speech that there would be a peaceful demonstration, but later in the speech repeatedly urged the audience to fight to save the government. The entire ‘stop the steal’ hoax was an attempted color revolution right here in the US that is unlike anything we’ve ever seen, and Trump is still at it, claiming at CPAC that the election was stolen. Trump has become a cancer on the US body politic.

    • LOL: Spanky
    • Troll: Pierre de Craon, Bro43rd
    • Replies: @Spanky
    , @GMC
  55. Marckus says:

    Today with unlimited computer capacity every nutball has a show where they pimp their product. The herd instinct dominates and logic flees. The flock feed on each other until lies become reality and truth becomes falsehood. You have to click to be in the clique. These misguided individuals rather be mad with the howling mob than sane all alone.

    The “host” of the show latches onto any silly thing and predicts an earth shattering event. Hence some politician scratching his balls is interpreted as a secret signal.

    I know people who look at this shit all day and waste time arguing the herd’s theory.

    I don’t waste time and energy on these characters. When I see people doing and saying stupid things I make myself very scarce. Experience has taught me that sooner or later their stupidity will cause me grief. This applies to family, friends and every other person.

    If discretion is the brother of valour then being unavailable is the father of both.

  56. Jack S says:

    You’re reading too much into it. Some people are more suggestible than others. I have friends who drink the CNN kool-aid. I have other friends who love Trump and the Fox news. The miracle is that so many of us see thru the bs. I actually have hope. We have all been thinking CIA kool-aid for far too long

  57. theMann says:
    @anonymous

    Repealing the 19th Amendment is an absolute necessity for the continued survival of our nation, if not our Civilization.

    It is also impossible.

    Bad news: our nation in its present form cannot be saved. Very likely, Enlightenment Civilization itself is done for, destroyed by the hysterical lunacy of female morons.

    Good news: future humanity will not make this mistake again.I seriously doubt the Chinese, for instance, have much tolerance for females getting a permanent case of the vapors.

    And for what it is worth, after 60+ years of watching the great unraveling, I am still astounded at the sheer relentless dishonesty, viciousness, and genuine moral depravity of the American female- and abortion in demand was the key that opened the door. After all, if you will murder your own children because it is convenient, you will commit any crime known to Man.

  58. gotmituns says:

    Never get into a discussion on politics with a woman. It’s beyond their worldview which is dominated by sex and all its derivatives. Beyond that, women become hysterical. Hysterics is their only answer to everything they don’t understand, which is mostly everything beyond a very low level.

    • Agree: Jeffrey A Freeman
  59. Miro23 says:

    Sadly for me, my friend Susan has been swept up into that counter-reality, and nothing I can say, no proof I can put forward challenging her “facts” will change her.

    For her—and for millions of modern “pod people” like her—I and those like me are the lunatics, psychologically part of the “Trump cult,” and not the reverse.

    Very true – and I’ve been through this. The weird thing is that it’s better educated, professional , and otherwise rational people who tend to convert into “pod people”. And even weirder that they seem quite genuine (not telling lies to conform).

    So they GENUINELY BELIEVE items like BLM demonstrators not engaging in violent behaviour and Russian interference behind Trump’s 20016 election victory.

    For my part, I’m open to the idea that BLM rallies were mostly peaceful, and that Putin was behind Trump’s election victory, but looking at the facts (rather that just repeating Goodthinker opinion ) shows that it’s false information,and that these are fabricated media lies. Conclusion that they’re not interested in looking at the evidence and somehow “just know” that they’re right.

    • Replies: @Anon
  60. bayviking says:

    How is it possible to have listened and watched Trump through the 2016 campaign and subsequent four years of bone spur crippled cheating at golf sustained with junk food fueled vitriol on twitter, a life of 10,000 lawsuits and failed gambling casinos, topped with 30,000 lies and a final claim that 2020 was rigged (but not 2016!) without coming to realize that he is a conman that blames his victims and sought to the very last minute to hold onto the power bestowed on him by manipulating his delusional followers. Trump is a despicable excuse for a human being, a serial rapist who advocates for torture, who hates to pay a living wage and sought to replace a flawed Obamacare with nothing, who promotes pollution, heating of the planet and extinction of nature in the name of profits today, America’s Caligula.

    Biden, too is a deeply flawed candidate. The ruling class will not let any serious advocate for the working class hold the Presidency.

    • Agree: Polemos
    • LOL: chris
    • Replies: @Peripatetic Itch
  61. Greetings,

    I’ve seen such behavior by many in the industry that I work in as well as my very own business partner. What saves me, though, is that I spent 8 years in the US Army as an officer. I also worked for the US State Department and possess degrees, certificates, and licenses that permit me to teach history, government or psychology which I have done in our public schools. That said, I am not an easy target for the pod people.

    Beliefs have consequences. In September of 2019, I watched the Repo Market spin out of control in the same manner that nearly took out the entire financial edifice in 2008. That, and the upcoming election was all I needed for me to hire a real estate agent to look for a home for me in flyover country as I did not want to be in Southern California for the catastrophe I could see coming. I told everyone that I cared about my reasons for leaving and that I would help anyone that wanted to get out. Keep in mind, this was BEFORE Covid.

    I was so concerned that it would all collapse before I could get out that I bought my home sight unseen. It is a big brick house and a good chunk of land on a dead-end road that backs up into a forest. Today is my 1 year anniversary of being in this home as I arrived here last year just days before the “lockdown”.

    The people that did not listen to me suffered as I told them they would. My business partner has to pay $5k a month for rent on his house which is now surrounded by people living on his sidewalk. The trendy bars and restaurants that he loved to brag about are now all permanently closed and squatters have moved into the buildings. The upscale businesses that he loved to puruse were looted and then burnt. Gunfire is a daily occurrence and it isn’t safe for him to wander around outside of his own home.

    The business that we own was declared to be “non-essential” and was closed. I was better able to weather this because the move out of California dropped my living expenses by 80%. Not only am I able to weather it better but I am able to purchase assets from desperate people like him for pennies on the dollar.

    Not only that but I didn’t have to spend the last year terrified and in a mask. None of that silliness reached me where I live now. I was spared an entire year of madness.

    Being a pod person and believing in absurdities has consequences – very serious consequences. Ya know, I get calls from friends and associates and they tell me “how lucky” I am to have made it out “just in time” and I remind them that I saw all of this coming and then I tell them that events far worse than what they’ve already seen is baked into the cake.

    Without exception, all of them want out now but that train has left the station. Houses in other desirable locations are now all gone and even arranging for transportation out of California can set you back 3 or more months as all available moving trucks are booked that far out. After all, the last year has depleted the savings of most of the people I knew in SoCal and now they can’t leave. They are now trapped in a hellscape with all the other POP people.

  62. I think I see the problem here.

    First.

    Back then it was still possible to get a good education at this state’s premiere university without the contagion of political correctness or Critical Race Theory warping your education.

    An assumption without merit. It was then, just as it is now, impossible to get an education free of approved propaganda at any government controlled facility.

    Students will always suffer some form of indoctrination. Fortunately, the thinkers will reject the most outrageous teaching while taking advantage of the only channel available to them for credentialization. Something necessary in order to get one of those good paying government jobs.

    Second.

    Haven’t you seen the news reports

    Your friends source of information is the main problem. It differs from yours in fundamental ways. It presents information, both real and fake, in a way that is most beneficial to the people who own the facilities that carry the news. It ignores information that in any way is detrimental to the interests of the owners.

    Third.

    Where are you getting your news from—Fox or Newsmax? They are rightwing extremist media that make up all sorts of things

    Your dogma clashes with her dogma. Catholics and Protestants in Ireland. Shia and Sunni in Iraq/Iran/Syria. Yankee and Rebel in the United States. Country and City. Bumpkins and the Sophisticated.

    East is East and West is West and never the twain shall meet. (Kipling)

    Closely held dogmas require that we defend their tenets with everything we have. Slaughter the enemies of your absolute beliefs. Reject them out of hand. And certainly you can never be friends with people who are so disagreeable. There must be some common ground before there can be friendship.

    Birds of a feather flock together. The truth found in “old sayings” should not be ignored. Your old friends path in life has diverged from your own. The things you had in common are too far in the past. Now you have only your memories.

  63. @bj0311

    I wouldn’t agree with the interpretation. It is simply an indicator of one’s psychological maturity, stability & cognitive capacity.

    I know people who are liberal, leftist, conservative, centrist, rightist, …. who are mature, can be engaged in a discussion & at the end may agree or disagree, but are not over-emotional shit talkers. Also, loony emotional babblers can be found at any segment of the political spectrum.

  64. @Achmed E. Newman

    I hear ya – my 5 year old boy now has some systemic thinking, considers God to be ‘the biggest giant’, so we are now reading philosophy together. He calls the Tao Te Ching a ‘confuse book’, but seems to enjoy it and the others. Here Michel de Montaigne essay XXV, https://www.gutenberg.org/files/3600/3600-h/3600-h.htm#link2HCH0025, is handy – but I have never once got one of my circle who have kids to even lift it off the table sadly!

    • LOL: chris
  65. Marckus says:
    @bj0311

    The screamers have nothing of value to contribute to the discussion. Their heads are empty or filled with nonsense which is the same thing. Hence, emotion and rage fills the void and substitutes for reason.

    The thinking man sees no reason to persist in useless discussion and so withdraws. The screamer , seeing this, feels they are right. I used to know someone like this who started with every advantage in life and who just cannot understand why everything goes off the rails.

    Pointing out that poor logic led to poor decisions and hence poor outcomes would lead to a raised voice that drowned all discussion.

    Logic to emotion is an Arabian stallion to a dray cart.

    • Replies: @JackOH
  66. @Bardon Kaldian

    Fair point, I find though that it is possible to get through to the thinkers, if isolating them to a one to one debating format. Those that just absorb words from authority can only be turned by force, and even then I wouldn’t call that true understanding. Trying some of my friends to just think for themselves a little.. well the Buddha said to never attempt to carry another’s burden! :p

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  67. Malla says:

    Decades of Cultural marxist brainwashing and MK Ultra mind control brainwashing at work.
    Reminds me of this post on bio Leninism
    “I’m talking about Antonio Gramsci. He was a communist agitator in Italy who got caught by Mussolini, and was sentenced to rot in prison. ”

    …snip….

    “His idea, which was hugely influential, and for good reason, was that the power structure wanted to keep being the power structure and you couldn’t just throw it away and replace it with your boys. You can try your chance in electoral politics, but there’s only so many resentful fucks who are willing to vote for the abolition of the very foundation of social life (property), at least in moderately prosperous Western countries. In these kind of places, if you want to take absolute power, you have to colonize the power structure very slowly. You have to influence their minds. You have to change the culture. This sounds very esoteric and spiritual but it’s not. Basically Gramsci argues that you gotta grab the press and the education system, and slowly but steadily do in every institution with some power what you do in a political party. Political parties work by hiring loyal people by preying on their low-status. Well, find a way into HR of every school, every newspaper, every government department, every judicial board. And to the very same thing. Run a distributed covert Leninist party. Until you run everything.”

    …snip….

    “There is no social value on acknowledging truth: everybody can see that. The signaling value is in lies. In the unnatural. As Moldbug put it:
    in many ways nonsense is a more effective organizing tool than the truth. Anyone can believe in the truth. To believe in nonsense is an unforgeable demonstration of loyalty. It serves as a political uniform. And if you have a uniform, you have an army.
    Or as the Chinese put it, point deer, make horse.”

  68. The Mocking Bird media is under zionist control and has performed mass hypnosis on the population to such extent that Susans response was to be expected, the government and MSM are under zionist control and the only way to take it back is to abolish the zionist owned FED ie cut off their money, and make no mistake the FED is the money creation machine that gives the zionist their control.

  69. Svevlad says:

    There’s only one way to end this.

    Pol Pot style urbicide.

    • LOL: AndrewR
  70. The MIC studied brainwashing, cult techniques, media hypnosis and other methods of social control over a long period. This body of knowledge was built up from the Civil War, WW1 and WW2. Propaganda is a very Dark art in my opinion.

    Those of us who become wise refuse to give them our eyes and ears.

    For some reason, women are easy prey for this. I suspect they have weak minds and lots of fear to manipulate. Sad.

  71. @Ilya G Poimandres

    The real question is: how to have a qualified discussion about anything?

    Some of the prerequisites are:

    1. one has to possess a degree of detachment. If you’re emotionally too involved with the issue, you cannot participate in a qualified discussion. Being too involved frequently – not necessarily- means using ad hominem “arguments”, which is a waste of time.

    2. one has to have knowledge of the field discussed. If you’re not informed, better stay out of it. In many cases, being informed means having read 20+ books on the topic.

    3. one has to possess analytic-synthetic ability or logical culture (I don’t know how else to put it). If you’re mostly imaginative/freely associating type, better leave it to others (not that imagination is bad, it is great, but without logic it just creates muddle)

    4. you have to have the ability to listen, ponder on others’ arguments (if they’re worth it) & not just preach your cause. If not, this is not a discussion. It is, on your part, a sermon.

    There must be a few other points, but the above mentioned are basics of qualified discussion culture.

    And, one must distinguish between a debate & a discussion. Debate is, basically, an effort to force your opinion on others; discussion is, on the other hand, a search for truth- however unpleasant for one’s former position it may turn out.

  72. Ugetit says:
    @michael888

    Speaking of propaganda, it started very early in America and it was not only propaganda, but black propaganda.

    Franklin’s weapon used in this propaganda warfare operation was the Boston Independent Chronicle newspaper. With great skill Franklin created a counterfeit issue of the newspaper,[2] carrying articles written by himself. He intended to have this fake newspaper very discreetly put into the hands of British newspaper editors who he hoped would reprint the articles in their papers. Reprinting articles was common at the time. If successful, his phony articles would then be read by huge numbers of British citizens.[3]

    – Hugh T. Harrington, Propaganda Warfare: Benjamin Franklin Fakes A Neswpaper
    https://allthingsliberty.com/2014/11/propaganda-warfare-benjamin-franklin-fakes-a-newspaper/

    Also, some of the chief pioneers of propaganda were Americans around the time of WW1 and we should remember that in 1940 the British Security Co-ordination (BSC) organization was a prolific source of nationwide news manipulation and black propaganda taking up nearly a whole floor in the Rockefeller Center in NYC.

    • Thanks: Mefobills
  73. Wild Bill says:
    @Barack Hussein Obama

    Many people are just starting to notice this condition, but it has always been this way. People have just been more blind to it and reluctant to accept its existence. The old quote comes to mind “All the world is insane but for me and thee and I am not so sure about thee”. The root of it all is that we are not free individuals. We consume whatever psychobabble we are fed and conform to it so that we can take our positions as fragments in a fractured “society” that is easily manageable. All of us are “controlled opposition”. We are slaves and as long as we identify with one control group or another we will remain slaves to their agenda. As long as we accept the “rule of law” which is nothing more than an instrument for controlling slaves and other property we will remain slaves. When we assert our individual right to be living beings with opinions of our own that may not conform to the opinions of anyone else and assert our right to live as we wish we will be free. No one else can deliver that for you. There is no saviour or white knight or cavalry riding to the rescue. You are your own saviour.

    • Thanks: Barack Hussein Obama
  74. Mr. Ed says:

    We’ve got people commenting on this post who think that MLK, Father Abraham and JFK would be supporting Trump if they were living. Likewise for David Crosby and his old comrades. WAKE THE FUCK UP!!

    One more thing about the USSA, it has become quite easy here for morons like ‘Susan’ to get an ‘education’…with predictable results.

    Regarding the video of ‘Burn, Loot, Murder’ posted above, I think they are chanting ‘Fuck yo Jesus’ (for Yankees who may be reading this, ‘Fuck your Jesus’), not ‘Fuck You Jesus’; there is a difference.

    • Replies: @Arthur MacBride
  75. whodat says:

    Happened with my son in law. and daughter. They say your sources are hoax sites,
    and they live in a world of PBS and CNN in the Ann Arbor bubble. They are out of
    contact with all else. Their world view is constantly reinforced.

    CRM 114 engaged –

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CRM_114_(fictional_device)

    To ensure the enemy cannot plant false transmissions and fake orders, the CRM 114 is to be switched into the receiver circuit prior to receiving attack or attack cancellation orders. The three code letters of the period are to be set on the alphabet dials of the CRM 114, which will then block any transmissions other than those preceded by the set letters from being fed into the receiver.[6]

  76. Hacienda says:
    @MattinLA

    Can I ask you, where in S. Cal do you live?

    I see where BC is coming from. But from the opposite direction. This reminds me of a conversation I had with a cousin in Indianapolis. We had been on very good terms in childhood, but we moved and the relationship went distant. We also moved to a better neighborhood and for her, some envy crept in, I think.

    I ended up at U.of Chicago and she, somehow, ended up at U. of Mississippi. I spoke with her after she had graduated and I was a still in college. And somehow we started talking about the civil rights movement. I made a comment about how MLK and blacks were just looking out for themselves. This made her go incendiary. The look of anger, hate, and diminishment in her face. Wow.

    Never talked with her again. After a lifetime of many bad experiences talking about racial issues and getting it from all sides- left and right, I will never make a comment about race in “real” life. To nobody, including the closest of family. Especially, the closest of family. This is the kind thing that can ruin family relations.

    But, then family relations is very fragile to begin with. If it’s not one thing, it’s another. If not race, then class, if not class, then education level, if not education, then what what music you listen to, and on and on. At least the race issue is a very clear line. Life is a minefield, you got have some fun with the explosions occasionally. This is pretty much my end of life wisdom.

  77. AndrewR says:
    @Gleimhart Mantooso

    I’ve never ended a friendship over politics. But people with loud and terrible political beliefs tend to make bad friends.

  78. I went to the UNC (one of the satellite campuses) and saw that the old timers were being replaced by the Johnny-come-latelies from the Northeast and by now, I am certain that almost all of profs are liberal outsiders, just like all of the new “Americans!”

  79. Schuetze says:
    @Mustapha Mond

    Here’s the thing about my wife’s brother. He was stationed in Korea during the Vietnam war, then joined the US Park Service where he was basically a Park Cop. Later he was a key member in the US Park Service Swat Team. Yes, the US park service has a swat team with all the perks and privileges that go along with it.

    He has guns and can defend himself yet supports Democrats who want to take his guns away. He and his jew wife believe absolutely in “my body my right” and a woman’s right to choose, yet he thinks the government should force his neighbors to be vaccinated. He totally believes in AGW yet drives a big Ford van with a v6 motor to carry his mountain bikes in. He despises families with children and over population, yet thinks his inflation adjusted CSRS pension and Medicare health insurance is a god given right.

    These pod people suffer from acute cognitive dissonance, they are so un-self-aware that they simply cannot recognize their own blatant hypocrisy.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Mustapha Mond
  80. @bj0311

    Logic means nothing and emotional faith is supreme. Kind of like a secular religion I guess. I have personally been skeptical of this faith thing. Believe me when I tell you a sucker is born every minute.

  81. Nancy says:

    OK – is it at possible to ‘see it from the other person’s point of view’ for Americans today?. As a life-long Democrat, and current Independent, having learned a lot of ‘truer’ history in the past 2 or 3 years…. I can see it from more than one viewpoint. I lived thru the 60’s and understand the hope for racial equality – legally. Can we find a mid-point between disgust and tolerated violence toward homosexuality, and the pride parade, ‘bakery’, in-your-face promotion? Can’t we accept that abortion is a woman’s legal right and also allow religious evangelizing trying to persuade women that it is a personal sin? Can we agree that child seduction is illegal, with both sides pointing to the camel’s noses coming under the tent? Can we agree that pornography can be very destructive, especial re: children, and needs to be private and constantly constrained and limited? Can we agree that “Wall Street” is no one’s friend? $ in politics is poison? The economy is clearly rigged? Not fair that 1% control the 99%? Etc. Must everything be converted to an absolute position?

    I think that both sides glory in their ‘my way or the highway’, black and white, etc and DON’T WANT to see any common, middle ground… they are enjoying being fed hatred at every turn. I can’t be right unless you are TOTALLY WRONG and EVIL… to admit any value in opposing positions is to be branded ‘traitor’.

    Using the ‘Marxist’ label may be accurate in some areas, but I don’t understand the usage (I’ve read all the anti-woke stuff) and don’t think it helps in general communication. So if the ‘left’ is called ‘Marxist’, does that imply the ‘right’ supports ‘rule by the rich’? Total non-regulation of capitalism? Monopolies? Down with aniti-trust laws? When excoriating the ‘other’, there is usually NO reference to the ‘us’ position that is being silently approved. I’m confused….

    Grange motto: “In essentials, unity – in non-essentials, freedom – in all things, charity.” And we need to find a way to present elements of real history in non-threatening, easily comprehended, curiosity-stimulating, ways. I think we have to start somewhere, and rediscover the alternative to the pleasure of hatred – the joy of cooperation. (BTW, I love UR… Ron is a genuine American treasure, speaking rare truths, etc. And I understand why the truth is so often shocking, or else we won’t be unsettled to learn that 73% of an administration is from under 3% of the pop., etc) But we have to remember possible real world solutions, sometimes, I think 😉 (I.e., Try admitting to some truth in the other side. Try this, “yes, but just imagine, IF THIS WERE TRUE, it would mean….” “I can see why you think that, from your perspective that makes perfect sense, I used to think that, too, but then found out…” what has worked for you to make a dent? what process brought you to a middle position? etc)

    Very sorry this is so long…..

  82. Nancy says:

    I know this is probably stupid and sappy (or not? it appears we all ‘know’ change is impossible – and it is! if that’s what we believe/see/expect/assume, imo)

    “Rebel, heretic, thing to flout,
    they drew a circle that shut me (us?) out.
    But love and I had the wit to win…
    we drew a circle that took him/her (them?) in.

  83. Spanky says:
    @saggy

    Thanks for proving the author’s point…

  84. @Ugetit

    Men I wouldn’t call hysterical—that is a woman thing. Neurotic, though? To the best of my knowledge there has never been a serious academic study of exactly what does loss of one’s man-hood at the approximate age of 24 HOURS do to the psyche of the heavy majority of American males under the age of 80.

    Here’s the scenario. You are barely outta the oven and just beginning to bond with your mother when you get grabbed by this pair of rubber gloves and hauled to this overlit room where you lie there on a cold stanley-steel table and then your limbs are restrained in a strap-down body-suit. There is one little opening in that cloth cage. They pull out your little whatchamajig and clamp it. Then another pair of surgical gloves grab it and bring out the hardware. It doesn’t take long. The pain goes on and on, though. Blood. Tears pouring down.

    What did an innocent neonatal boy do to deserve this sexual assault and battery, usually with the full approval of deluded and dimwitted parents, so he can look just like daddy. “The sins of the fathers”. American men are neurotic because the most sensitive portion of their anatomy has been forcibly removed. That terror, that horror, never leaves the psyche unless there is a lot of good healing procedures done for that innocent victim.

    Neurotic, you ask? Take a look at some video or film clips and watch Jerry Lewis and Woody Allen in action. Even Khazarian Jews have been de-masculinating their boy-child for 60 or more generations. Their entire culture is neurotic. Now, in approximately five generations time, American boys are growing up either feminized or “sporting”‘ a defensively macho false-manhood. And they do not have a clue of what happened to them.

    Hysterical women and neurotic males. That just about sums up American “Wokes”.

    • Replies: @Ugetit
  85. @WorkingClass

    I had a nearly identical experience with one of my old friends. She and her husband who was one of my closest friends for nearly 60 years live in California. He is confused but she is rabid. She told me last May when I said the masks are useless that I obviously do not care about killing my family and friends. I reminded her that I was a Medical School Professor and had some working knowledge regarding infectious diseases and pathogens. This did not make a dent because I am a fool and an evil person who is stupid and clueless.

    The extent of lobotomizing the American population is broad and deep. I realized after my conversation with her whom I thought had some balance in her psyche that best approach is what we use to counter the effects of intense fields of radiation regardless the source. Time, Distance and Shielding. Minimize the duration of exposure, increase the distance so the invers square law can protect you by diminishing intensity and have suitable shielding to block the penetration of the radioactive waves or particles.

    Unlike actually radiation sickness, the Zombie Disorder must be contagious and those that do not follow the above will become affected by the Demented Psychosis. Quite interesting actually from a Scientific and Intellectual perspective but overwhelmingly terrifying in reality.

    • Thanks: chris
  86. There have always been a minority of people whose heads are so far up their own assets that you can’t have a normal conversation with them without being dragged into their version of “I’m enlightened and the rest of the world are idiots. Here’s proof…”

    We used to reserve the drastic measure of cutting people out of our lives for extreme things like violence, addiction, religious cult or terrorist group membership, major mental illness, Ford vs Chevy, or the divisive over-vs-under toilet paper debate.

    Now everybody wants a piece of that. It’s funny that so many people can be in overwhelming agreement with everybody around them — in many cases in agreement with the media and business and government as well — and still believe that they’re all uniquely enlightened rebels against the moronic rest of the world.

    I don’t know if these people secretly believe that they’re somehow even more enlightened than everybody else that they outwardly agree with — or if their concept of being one of an embattled enlightened few simply never causes any mental conflict when presented with evidence that a sizable portion of the world full of idiots actually agrees with them.

    Regardless, everybody is pretty ready to cut people out of their lives for not agreeing with them and accepting The Truth. Sure, the current egregious example is the Woke religion, but the general reaction to it seems to indicate that it’s a symptom rather than the cause. There are plenty of people on this site, for example…

    So maybe consider whether you’d be better off not requiring people to sign their names to your personal mission statement before they can enjoy the copious benefits of association with the precious wonder that is you?

    • Agree: Dumb4asterisks
  87. anon[299] • Disclaimer says:

    Trump should have anticipated agents provocateur would be embedded on January 6. He should have repeatedly told the crowd not to enter the building under any circumstances during his speech. Trump walked into a well-set trap that day.

    If the Dems get the election “reform” they want, forget it. They will never lose the presidency again. Time to move to another country.

    • Agree: Jeffrey A Freeman
  88. @bayviking

    Trump is a despicable excuse for a human being, … who promotes pollution, heating of the planet and extinction of nature…, America’s Caligula.

    There you go, listing three separate things, but all turning out to be different wordings of the very same thing:

    “heating of the planet”: Putting you squarely in the camp of the warmists who claim our burning of fossil fuels is going to cause runaway warming, climate change or climate disruption and send us all into a Venusian bake-off. Not true, of course.

    “promotes pollution”: That was so clever, and devious, of Mr. Obama to get CO2 declared a pollutant. CO2, the essence of photosynthesis, of the agricultural conversion of carbon into food, the source of all life on Earth. Along with the sun, I mean.

    “extinction of nature”: All that warming, of course, is killing the polar bears and Pacific walruses, not to mention sending Lyme Disease and malaria northward to kill us all. Nice distraction from the real pollution problems like endocrine disruptors spread throughout the environment. Never any mention of the death toll from wind turbines. How dare we!

    Of course, all of this is promoted by some of the richest billionaires on the planet, who apparently all got religion at the very same moment. Not to mention some very tidy additions to their wealth from subsidies and Carbon trading.

    Is that you Susan? How did you trace Dr. Cathey so quickly?

    • LOL: Schuetze, chris
  89. The country is not more divided than it ever has been. While we are verbal to the edges — by and large the disagreements remain just that verbal and unlikely to develop beyond that. It will be interesting to see what transpires over the summer.

    When I was in the classroom and coaching, the divisions were fairly stark as more and more extreme liberals occupied more and more spaces. That does not bode well for the future of education. When instructors near shriveled in horror to find out that I was republican and voted for Pres Bush —

    I may get irritated with my liberal friends as with those who are conservative — but rejecting their humanness and their role in my life is not something I could sincerely dismiss. I always want to reconcile, reconnect, always. That is for me the nature of God as Christ —

    rebuilding that which is damaged, restoring that which is lost.

    it doesn’t mean a love fest and maybe far from it — but friends now foes still matter to me.

  90. @bayviking

    Thanks for the tears. There is some healing there.

  91. Corrupt says:
    @restless94110

    “large homogeneous countries like Russia and China”

    While China may be more homogenous than Russia, calling either so is a stretch. Both have significant minority populations that are vying for their freedom.

    • LOL: frontier
    • Replies: @restless94110
  92. Why do women insist on the “right” to kill babies?

    • Replies: @Dumb4asterisks
  93. Corrupt says:
    @mcohen

    “Blm stands for bitches lives matter”

    No, it’s “Bimbos Lacking Medication”

  94. Kind of relaxing article. And funny also. To argue with brainwashed women is an absolute futility.
    Women are not guided by logic. Women are guided by instinct. I did meet some women who hated Trump but they could not explain why. Women are generally very shallow. They rely on feelings.

    • Replies: @Peripatetic Itch
  95. Ugetit says:
    @Majority of One

    Damn! Good points; all beyond dispute.

    I’ve long recognized this as well,

    Their entire culture is neurotic.

    The poor beasts are screwed up beyond redemption and it shows. It explains their obsessive preoccupation with playing the victim, grabbing everything they can, and wanting to control the world. The sad thing is that if they had all of that they still would not be satisfied, and the rest of us have to live with the crap they turn everything into.

    Thanks.

  96. awry says:

    Sharp political divisions are not something unique to America. Civil wars over them happened in many places. In my country half of the population thinks our leader is a savior of the nation, the other half that he is a corrupt dictator or even worse, like, the reincarnation of Adolf Hitler. Of course the latter is the so called left-liberal one, interconnected with the world HQ of judeocracy.

    Sorry for going slighly off on a tangent, Guy Verhofstadt who was the leader of ALDE, the Liberal “umbrella party” in the European Parliament once told the Hungarian Prime Minister in a debate:

    My question is, how long will it go? What will be the next thing? Will you burn books too? In the square in front of the Hungarian Parliament, named after Lajos Kossuth? Is this next? The books of Kertész or the books of Konrád?* Or maybe the books of my favorite Hungarian writer, Sándor Márai? Sándor Márai was a real cosmopolitan, whom you are also attacking at this moment.

    * Imre Kertész was a writer who got a Nobel Prize in Literature despite being a second-rate writer, almost unknown in his country of birth until getting the Nobel (he wasn’t held in high regard at all even by the Hungarian Jewish intellectuals). His Holocaust novel was a “huge success” in Germany though (in Hungarian it is basically unreadable it is so bad, it was rejected by the Jewish director of a state publishing house in Communist times because he found the manuscript not worthy to print.. later he moved to Germany and had more success with it in German translation). György Konrád was a Hungarian Jewish writer infamous for somewhat racist comments about Jews being a superior people (“Our children will not be sweet sweepers. They possess a special gene cocktail.”).

    But was Márai, who emigrated to escape Communism a “cosmopolitan writer”? Mr. Verhofstadt does believe so apparently, but he doesn’t speak Hungarian and so certainly doesn’t know the diaries of Márai. He wrote in April 1971:

    The New York Times. I haven’t seen it for four years. I didn’t miss it, but now, as I pick up the kilo-weight Sunday copy, the bitter-sultry ghetto smell that evaporates from this newspaper — and its readers, New York Jewry — rises from the pages…. With 90% advertising, 10% hatred, denunciatory-defamatory hostility to anything and everyone and everything who and what is not Jewish. There is a Jewish conspiracy in the world — New York is not a secret bunker of this conspiracy — a cruel, tenacious, racist, fascist Jewish conspiracy that uses communism as a tool (like the Nazis) for the purposes of Jewish racial rule. The New York Times is the mouthpiece of this racist conspiracy in English – it could just be printed for Zionists in Hebrew letters.

    I guess the NYT did not change that much.

    • Thanks: Ugetit
  97. Catherine Austin Fitts is an Anti-podean

    Spend an hour or so listening to Austin Fitts on
    Planet Lockdown (h/t John Wear, Wears War. https://wearswar.wordpress.com/2021/03/04/the-covid-19-questions-are-increasing/ )

    https://rumble.com/vcjkwr-catherine-austin-fitts-on-planet-lockdown.html

    !function(r,u,m,b,l,e){r._Rumble=b,r[b]||(r[b]=function(){(r[b]._=r[b]._||[]).push(arguments);if(r[b]._.length==1){l=u.createElement(m),e=u.getElementsByTagName(m)[0],l.async=1,l.src=”https://rumble.com/embedJS/u4″+(arguments%5B1%5D.video?’.’+arguments[1].video:”)+”/?url=”+encodeURIComponent(location.href)+”&args=”+encodeURIComponent(JSON.stringify([].slice.apply(arguments))),e.parentNode.insertBefore(l,e)}})}(window, document, “script”, “Rumble”);

    Rumble(“play”, {“video”:”v9xeq3″,”div”:”rumble_v9xeq3″});

    Austin Fitts sketched the Big Picture, What is really happening.
    It starts with the need to displace-replace the dollar.
    It ends with the Masses becoming agents of their own enslavement.

    Along the way, Austin Fitts provides evidence of how the BLM riots destroyed exactly those sections of cities that billionaires hiding capital gains in Opportunity Zones are investing: BLM = urban renewal demolition teams.

    That’s just one insight from the Austin Fitts video.
    Her take on vaccines will chill you. Hard to refute.

    Required information – understanding – for the UnWoke.

    https://planetlockdownfilm.com

    ___
    If someone knows how to embed a link so the A-F video will appear, please do so.

    • Replies: @Culpepper
  98. AReply says:

    This essay is another in a pattern of discourse that is rendered by a computer program. From the core logic, down to its affects and lexical tics, it is a construction designed to emotionally sway an audience into hatred of a an other: in this case Democratic leadership, under the rubric of its failures to account for the readers “reality”, the substance of which is just regurgitations of other stories.

    This technique of agitation was gloriously deployed by Donald Trump himself to sow hatred of Barak Obama regarding a birth certificate. You may not recall those happy times. I use the article “a” because the birth certificate in question was never a state document recording a live birth, it was a floating signifier of doubt about the validity of Barak Obama which exploited nativist bigotry and harnessed it to the GOP political bandwagon. There was no document that could ever counter the Trump’s challenge regarding that birth certificate. The PR genius of that lie was that any document produced was a priori fake, because Obama was a master racketeer and duping everyone. You were a rube if you believed the transparent lunacy that a black man could ever be a true President of the United States, because if such an event ever occurred, it would be the end of the United States. Q.E.D. For Obama to produce the document could only concede, because to play that game was to play as the loser. — Keep in mind that the GOP grift relies on throwing the ashes of the Confederate south into the eyes of the electorate like a dirty scrapper throws dirt in the eyes of his opponents. Such gambits are GOP mainstay and they happily eat each others children, as John McCain knew. — A similar gambit was used to defame Hillary Clinton. And Trump tripled-down on this gambit to rally his mob in his defeat: The election had to be fraudulent, because he didn’t win. That’s the GOP idea of reason!

    In this article various tedious gestures are deployed, such as reminiscing about Southern Grand ‘ol Opry, er Grand Old Plantation Dames (entitled bigots) recalling a time when Democrats were rural agrarians facing the harsh structural adjustments of the Reconstruction and the Party of Lincoln was bringing it’s newly educated homestead wisdom to Washington DC to set Federal structures into an alignment for an empire to come. Another age of America when the parties were diametrical populist opposites of today, where southern whites faced a considerable loss of advantage from Emancipation and post-Enlightenment Republicans championed man’s self determination, with an emphasis on “men”. This author refashions the hackneyed straw-man of the better days of her youth when bigots were free and pianos were scared. She could go on all day.

    The cornerstone of her anecdotes is a brick which she (I use gender-specific personal pronouns here only to heighten the sense of irony that the output of a computer being proffered as a person) crowbars into rhetorical position regarding the benign intentions if Donald Trump at his own rally, where after a month of crying Fire! into a crowded theater of shambling drunks and supplying them with programs on how to stagger out to start a Capitol brawl on the day of the election certification, following triple recounts, legion of attorneys stumbling through failed court cases, attempts at backroom grifting of the Offices of State Secretaries pressing political favors and retributions to coerce the faking of vote counts, and walkabout press junkets at parking lots of landscapers, sexual appliance dealers and mortuaries — paging Pizzagaters! — at the last moment implores the mob to brawl “peacefully”.

    Therefore, Biden is awful and you can’t trust dirty lying Democrats (Uhh, er, not Grand Old Dame Piano-teacher Southern Democrats such as you would find in 1870, but today’s dirty Democrats, wait, how old is my dear misguided friend? Nvm she’s got that old-timey je ne sais quois)

    Wait, did she wrangle blame of Antifa in there, somehow, in the middle of her polemics about how her old friend is an insane rube to misinformation? Yes she did! And did she skip over the fact that the Proud Boys are led by an FBI informant?

    Such is the status of white computer-generated conservative editorial integrity in 2021.

    I’m gonna save the remainder of her fantastical template of astute reckonings cataloging the mental demise of ex-Replublicans for later, to savor when I’m floating away on chunk iceshelf, accompanied by a starving polar bear, adrift on an ever rising sea, and bobbing into eternity.

  99. Rurik says:
    @anonymous

    We’re living in the center of the greatest propaganda machine in the history of the world and it’s so effective people don’t even realize it.

    like schools (what an appropriate word) of fish, who don’t even know what water is

  100. @Bardon Kaldian

    one has to have knowledge of the field discussed. If you’re not informed, better stay out of it. In many cases, being informed means having read 20+ books on the topic.

    Good post, but this point is a bit more complicated. First every field is extremely specialized but every field is also dependent on every other field for some very basic knowledge and assumptions. The guy who is intent on learning everything about the effect of “climate change” on coral reefs is probably going to have to accept as gospel a lot of very dubious science about the discernment of said climate change from tree rings.

    One needs to be able to distinguish the wheat from the chaff in any field. To do that you also need to discern the extent of the rot that pervades pretty much all branches of academia in this age of corruption. The rot comes from arrogance and the tendency to censor anything that poses a threat to the dominance of the prevailing hierarchy. For this you need to read very widely and suspect everything.

    When dogmas and propaganda are everywhere, it’s the ability to discern fact from fiction that will bring us back to reality. That ability is unfortunately rare and not innate.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  101. Anon[155] • Disclaimer says:
    @Miro23

    The eye-opening moment for women (now March 8 is here) is getting them to see the Breitbart video of Biden touching girls and smelling women’s hair. Just wait for the right moment, whatsapp it captioned “he’s been a puppet all along 😡”

    To their credit, a few feminists ran it on their social media accounts at the time of his election. There’s also videos of creepy Joe by CBS or CNN on YouTube. Just draw a circle around the sources..

  102. Phibbs says:

    The article does not mention it, but Jews own the mainstream media, the politicians (Democrat & Republican), Hollywood, Wall Street, the State Department, the Justice department, most of the so-called think tanks, the porn industry and are high up in academia. The Jews, with only 4% of the Russian population, destroyed Christian, imperial Russia in 1917. The Jews of America, with only 2% of the population, are herding this nation into an abyss. Cancel culture, the culture of victimhood, censorship, “wokeness,” the endless witch hunt for racists, the erasing of history, our Zionist/militarist foreign policy and identity politics — all have their roots in the Jewish community or are strongly supported by the Jews.

    • Agree: Peripatetic Itch
    • Replies: @Zumbuddi
  103. @Zarathustra

    Women are not guided by logic. Women are guided by instinct.

    Perhaps true, but there are quite a few who break that generalization. I’m thinking of Millie Weaver at the moment.

    Too many women, IMHO, have been caught up in the fashion of reading and watching fiction as a primary leisure activity. The whole point of fiction, of course, is to make it seem indistinguishable from reality. The more they read the less they can actually make that distinction.

    How did they get that way? Well there’s multiple awards and honors for the best fiction writers, which probably stem from daytime television starting in the 50s and extends to movies and Hollywood. Everything is geared to extinguishing the differences. Even the supposed news networks go out of their way in this regard, writing their scripts as if fiction and truth were just two sides of the same coin, telling us we all have “our own truth” and treating celebrities as pundits.

    Who’s to (((blame)))? The usual culprits. They long ago saw women were the most vulnerable to their indoctrination techniques, being stuck at home, with much of their outside contact being forced through the education system and the TV.

    • LOL: Emslander
    • Replies: @Zarathustra
  104. @Mr. Ed

    ” … Likewise for David Crosby and his old comrades. WAKE THE FUCK UP!! ”

    Right.
    The series below is informative about Crosby et al. (incl Jim Morrison/The Doors) and origins of the US “counterculture” … apparently the author died prematurely.

    ” … It is the first week of August, 1964, and U.S. warships under the command of U.S. Navy Admiral George Stephen Morrison have allegedly come under attack while patrolling Vietnam’s Tonkin Gulf … ”
    http://centerforaninformedamerica.com/inside-the-lc-the-strange-but-mostly-true-story-of-laurel-canyon-and-the-birth-of-the-hippie-generation-part-i/

  105. lloyd says: • Website

    How much the American people are now suffering from the mental and physical affects of carbon dioxide? To me from a perspective of New Zealand and thank God still allowed to breathe uncontaminated oxygen, it is quite clear that the election was stolen and Trump staged a putsch. Both events are the oldest in the political play book. How many in America are thinking basic common sense? America seems to be less a divided house than a mad house.

    • Replies: @Chris in Cackalacky
  106. @Peripatetic Itch

    The guy who is intent on learning everything about the effect of “climate change” on coral reefs is probably going to have to accept as gospel a lot of very dubious science about the discernment of said climate change from tree rings.

    I don’t care about climate change, but:

    1. it is foolish to engage in a discussion about it without having read or heard the most important works & arguments from both sides

    2. I’ve done this and came to the conclusion that: a) there is a change in global temperature, no doubt, as well as a significant rise in pollution, b) it is impossible to ascertain whether this is primarily- temperature gradient etc.- a product of human activity, or something that happens regularly over longer periods of time, some cyclic phenomenon we don’t know how to explain.

    Anyway, the question is basically metaphysical- no way to answer it definitely. What is on the other hand, possible is to work on lessening the pollution, which is all too evident in major industrial cities, especially in Asia. So, it all boils down to- what to do to have a cleaner air & healthier environment and healthier life of people in those mega-production areas, without sacrificing production, because there is no going back to some Rousseau-type green utopia which had never existed.

    Aside from that, all babble about it is worthless.

  107. @AReply

    .. There was a fire, and Trump shouted rightly about it. Both the Time article and HR1 show explicitly that the fox is in the hen house, and is legislating to legalise tunnelling under the fence.

    There is no emotion to this debate, just simple evidence and reasoning.

    I have not had a ‘debate’ with even one democrat (even though I am a Bakuninist, so not really that far from the statist left), where they have not raised their voice, ignored evidence, and shot the messenger like it was some kind of winning tactic. And I do mean not one, and I like my political debates. On the other hand, I can talk to a conservative about ideas, and expect that they (the 3rd plural is always the least expensive out with personal pronouns!) will only be countered with other ideas.

    But it’s ok, you enjoy the collapse of your civilisation that you are blindly rooting for – it will hit city dwelling liberals much harder than country conservative folk.

  108. @AReply

    to savor when I’m floating away on chunk iceshelf, accompanied by a starving polar bear, adrift on an ever rising sea, and bobbing into eternity.

    How dare we!

  109. Notsofast says:
    @Biff

    i also had a falling out with my more conservative friends during the shrub administration. now i see the same thing with dem friends, i try my best to point out that they are aligning with the neocons that they hated during shrubs reign. they don’t have a response but it doesn’t change their minds either, total cognitive dissonance.

  110. SafeNow says:

    I assume that in China, there are intelligence units that monitor U.S. media. (After all, it is not like China is lacking for canniness, or lacking enough very smart people to implement it.) I assume that they have particular interest in intelligent alternate media, given that what is said in mainstream media is distorted and fabricated. What will the Chinese intelligence unit assigned to Unz write in their report, as they summarize the comments to this essay, to this superb focus group? I am only a nobody in pajamas, but I think something like this:

    1. The high magnitude, and great pervasiveness, of irrationality that captured half of the U.S., which our intelligence has noted in the past, are confirmed by these comments.
    2. The intractability of the irrationality, also previously noted, is confirmed, and even amplified. The intractability and irreversibility of the illogic and close-mindedness is quite astonishing.
    3. The comments bear a tone of genuineness and sincerity, and are almost uniformly consistent with one another.

    • Replies: @Jeffrey A Freeman
  111. @restless94110

    I found your comment as insightful as Dr. Cathey’s essay. It really hit home for me. I have lived in a world of what I thought were bright, well-educated people (many of them in my own extended family). They all identify as “liberal Jews.” I guess i found out that I wasn’t a liberal Jew myself when they all seemingly became alienated from me over the last year, expressing all of the same blather that you and Dr. Cathey recite, with similar incredulity that this mindless nonsense could have emanated from your own close associates.

    It has appeared to me, for a number of years now, roughly coinciding with the explosion of Alzheimer’s cases in the country, that perhaps chemicals (or too much co-2 in the atmosphere) were making a lot of people a lot dumber. Not just stupider, but actually willfully ignorant of so much that seemed obvious to me as a thinking human being. I simply could not account for their seeming inability to reason and their inability to make cohesive arguments about the most basic events in society.

    Some called this Trump derangement syndrome. I am beginning to think that there might have been more to it than that as I suggested just above. Anyway, I am completely bewildered to be living in this new nightmarish world where you can’t have a conversation anymore with people whom you have known all your life. I admit to being pretty discouraged about all of this. Is there any way back to sanity for our country?

  112. What we have are gullible fools who have easily been swept up by propagandistic mechanisms within media and popular culture. They no longer “know” what they know or from whence comes that which they “think” they know. They’ve been hypnotized. I’ve said it for years that the pop culture rage over zombies was in fact a metaphor for the people, the living dead, who walk amongst us.

    • Agree: chris
  113. Zumbuddi says:
    @Phibbs

    What a stupid & antisemenitic comment!

    Jews this Jews that, how wrong can you be?

    God’s chosen ones are the world’s meek victims, powerless and unrepresented in the halls of power.

    Wimmen, OTOH, especially post-menopausals who never worked out of the home; or millennial who never bought a whole chicken & cut it up, and who don’t raise their own children (my DiL hired a Sleep coach to teach her newborn how to sleep! No kidding.) — these are the Power Centers of the universe.

    Wimmen occupy the seats of power
    Wimmen control wealth & its distribution.
    Wimmen controls the instruments of monopoly on violence.

    It’s the Wimmen, not Jews, you antisemenitic.

  114. mcohen says:
    @AReply

    I will up the lol to a triple lol.

  115. Never forget. There is Truth and there is the Lie. We ‘Truthers’ and ‘Deplorables’ are on the side of Truth no matter how effective media gas lighting is. ‘Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness sake, for theirs is the kingdom of Heaven.’ –Matthew 5:10

  116. @Peripatetic Itch

    Women are designed by God to take care and rule their families. To feed them to clothe them and to take care about their needs. Also to push their spouses off the couch. God did put enough burden on woman.
    But it is not only burden it is also a joy and great satisfaction in work well done. . Any woman that desires to be a man and enters the mans word is an abomination and she despises God.

    • LOL: Peripatetic Itch
  117. @Biff

    Good point. The woke are merely one manifestation of cognitive dissonance and group think buffoonery.

  118. @Gina Schrank

    Is there any way back to sanity for our country?

    Not to be negative, but I think the only hope for a return to sanity will require a total collapse first. The system is too complex, too big, too rotten, and too corrupt for orderly reform. Every major institution in the country is morally bankrupt and totally compromised.

    • Agree: Zarathustra
  119. Jews bitched about past pogroms but unleashed BLM pogroms in 2020 as vulgar bribery to blacks to keep them in the camp of the Jewish-dominated Democratic Party.

    • Agree: Schuetze
  120. @restless94110

    The delusional always demand “citations” and “facts” but when pressed to offer up the facts for what they profess to believe they usually say something along the lines of… “Well, everybody knows that…”. That is the sum of their sources.

  121. @SafeNow

    China doesn’t monitor our media.

    As much as produce and green light it.

  122. Mrk says:

    Thanks for publishing what I have been thinking and feeling since about April of last year. I have lost a lot of friends, business associates, and even family members. This society is crumbling.

  123. @Nancy

    I agree with you on the specific many issues for which you see the right path between control by either side. You sound like a Libertarian there, in fact, Nancy. However, that right path will not be taken when there is one side or the other that is free to impose control. The US Constitution spelled out how it was supposed to work in this country, and the White men who were the voters for most of the first 150 years did a bang-up job holding to it, generally.

    So, your reasonable ideas won’t stay as common practice unless basic principles are adhered to. Most women voters, most non-White voters, and most of the immigrants that have come in the last half-century don’t give a rat’s ass about all that. How’s it gonna work?

    Then there are your Grangers, who are full of shit with this motto of theirs:

    Grange motto: “In essentials, unity – in non-essentials, freedom – in all things, charity.”

    NO! In essentials, freedom. I believe the USSR had a whole lot of unity in their essential Communist doctrine. Hell of a lot of good that did ’em. Oh, and you don’t get real charity from the Government, so “in freedom, we can have charity. Otherwise, no dice.”. I don’t know much about these Grangers, but from their motto, they sound like a bunch of jackasses.

  124. @Anonymous

    I tried quite some time back to get him to do just that. He has a metal block on that subject and appears to worship the ground that Ilana Mercer walks on.

  125. @Gina Schrank

    Thanks for your comment. You are the first Jewish person I have read who made such comment, other than Gilad Atzmon and Israel Shamir. J. Edgar Hoover said, ‘The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous that he cannot believe it exists.’ Is it possible these people whom you cannot have a conversation with are subconsciously defending themselves from said handicap? And my other question to you is — have you been aware the central role Jews are playing in this bizarre conspiracy and for how long? Thanks!

    • Replies: @Gina Schrank
  126. @lloyd

    A gunless putsch? Oxygen poisoning is real I guess.

  127. @Hacienda

    great comment! I have found that having a sensible opinion on most topics lands your right in the vitriol between the libtards and “conservatives”. Your either a bigoted neonazi white supremacist slave trader or a miscegenating soy boy SJW race traitor.

  128. @Gina Schrank

    Some called this Trump derangement syndrome. I am beginning to think that there might have been more to it than that

    David Icke called Shai Dannon a “truth-teller,” and so Dannon described himself.
    But Dannon’s foundational “truth” is the holocaust.

    If the world can be convinced beyond doubt — and at peril to their liberty and well-being — that Nazis stuffed Jews into gas chambers and made soap and lampshades of Jews, then convincing people that an invisible microorganism will kill them unless they allow themselves to be injected with another invisible organism is a piece of cake.

    In the video embedded here:
    https://www.unz.com/gatzmon/the-vaxi-nation-people-like-no-one-else/#comment-4506515
    Icke’s and Dannon’s analyses are bass-ackward.

    They want to heap culpability on “Nazis,” that zionists “imitated,” but it was zionists who drove the wars, zionists who initiated the propaganda,, as Roberts, Unz & others have argued.

    Ironically, the Global War on Coronavirus, marketed as it is as “just like World War II,” and especially Israel’s response to the GWOC, is revealing the lie at the heart of holocaustism.

    Readers who understand the full implications of, for example, Paul Craig Roberts’
    Germany Did Not Start World War II
    https://www.unz.com/proberts/germany-did-not-start-world-war-ii/

    or Ron Unz’s
    American Pravda: Holocaust Denial
    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-holocaust-denial/

    have a head start in understanding what is taking place in USA — and other states/nations — today.

    David Irving blew away some of the smokescreen.
    Pat Buchanan revealed some inconvenient truths.
    Paul Craig Roberts laid down a cogent counter-narrative.
    Ron Unz raised some uncomfortable conundrums.

    Now, zionists are pulling the camouflage away from their own bad acts as they participate fully in running the same murderous scheme as was undertaken in the era of the wars in Europe.

    Do I hear Never Again?

    • Agree: Peripatetic Itch
  129. ebear says:

    I had exactly the same experience with a friend of 40 years, with whom I worked for several years on a project whose goal was the teaching of Epistemology. For those unfamiliar with the term, Epistemology is the study of systems of knowledge that asks the fundamental question: “how do we know, and how do we know that we know?” Basically, Applied Reason.

    The project ended, but our collaboration continued on an ad hoc basis until about 2014, when it began to deteriorate over differences surrounding the coup in Ukraine, went further south with the war in Syria, and hit rock bottom following the election of Donald Trump, after which my friend showed clear signs of TDS (which he of course denies) characterized by steering every conversation to the latest alleged outrage committed by Trump. That got old really fast, as you can imagine.

    I could go into detail, but I’ll just summarize for brevity’s sake. He fought me on everything from Assad, Putin, Ukraine, Crimea, Syria, C-19, HCQ, Russian interference in 2016 – you name it – and every opinion of his was an MSM talking point. The most insulting part of it was that I got attacked for supporting the “Right” as if I’d somehow been led astray by “conspiracy theorists.” He even called me that at one point.

    The worst of it is, he broke all the rules we’d established in our former collaboration, such as: consider the source (of information); consider the destination (audience); why do I believe the things I do?; what am I doing, and why am I doing it?; how do I deal with uncertainly?; and so forth. Basic rules that just went out the window. He even held up CNN as a reliable source, and Rachel Maddow as an authentic journalist! It just got to be too much, and no amount of rational engagement could knock him off his perch, so I just gave up.

    This all happened in Canada BTW, so clearly the disease has spread beyond the USA.

    • Replies: @Peripatetic Itch
  130. @Schuetze

    I feel your pain, Schuetze.

    Sounds like a walking, talking contradiction in terms. And a dangerous one, at that.

    New word for advice: disengage…..

  131. @Nancy

    There is no doubt that both political parties in the US are terminally corrupt, compromised, and evil. However, this does NOT mean that the correct position on the issues is to find a middle ground or compromise between the two. The Republicans want to bomb Iraq, the Democrats wanted to bomb Libya. Of course, Bombing Egypt is not the answer.

    The US government and political system is essentially a racket; it’s stated purpose is not it’s real purpose. The US government is really an occupation government that does the will of wealthy globalists (who are mostly jewish) and enriches career bureaucrats.

    You are right that terms like Marxist and communist do not correctly describe the actual ideology of the “left”.

    You are wrong about abortion. Murdering a baby is no one’s right. However, more of an effort should be made for reasonable alternatives like adoption. Many so called “conservatives” have a very hostile attitude toward young, single mothers which is part of the problem. OF course it is less than ideal to be pregnant and unmarried; however once a young woman is in that situation the goal should be to find positive solutions, not just heap guilt and hatred on them. The destruction of the traditional family has been the source of many of America’s worst problems. The reality is that for many young people today, almost all their influences are bad and attainable, good alternatives are very limited.

    • Replies: @GeneralRipper
  132. Watching Maddow is Stage 4 terminal TDS . ☠️

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  133. @Nancy

    Hi Nancy!

    “Very sorry this is so long…..”

    Don’t be. It was a great rant, and most of us here share your feelings, I very strongly suspect. I know I do.

    The big problem people like us have is that awful feeling of being alone. Alone in seeing the bullshit all around us. Alone in appreciating that life is nuance, not gross or exaggerated or black-and-white. Alone in seeing that we are heading towards a dystopia very few appreciate. Etc., etc.

    Well, you’re not alone. That’s what great about Unz. There are a lot of people who ‘get it’. You get it. I think I get it. Peripatetic Itch gets it. Spanky gets it. And probably a thousand others who read your post also get it, but simply didn’t acknowledge you for whatever the reason.

    My wife, thankfully, gets it. Neither her family nor my own get it. Very few of my friends get it. That’s life.

    My advice: keep posting, as what you have to say is valuable, intelligent and rings true with others like yourself. We’re out there. Hopefully, you have loved ones who also get it, and you can take comfort in that. But know that you’re a rebel, as so many are here at Unz, and ultimately, rebels walk alone. It’s lonely being an informed person, who rebels against the propaganda, the tide of disinformation, the oppressor’s wrong and the proud ill-informed man’s contumely. It’s lonely.

    But you are not alone.

    Thanks for a heartfelt post.

    Kindest Regards,

    MM

  134. @Chris in Cackalacky

    very much aware. Thanks for your comment

  135. @Gina Schrank

    I don’t think that ecological stupidity exists. Sure, pollution has significant effects on fertility and various health issues, but there is no indication it can affect common sense or cognitive faculties (of course, except in rare cases of mass poisoning).

    Simply, most people have always been crazy & stupid, and when societal struggles intensify, one gets mass hysteria & aggressive lunatic idiocy on steroids (wars of religion in the 16th -17th C Europe, Boxer rebellion in China etc.). In the US, it was the case with “Satanic ritual abuse”, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic_ritual_abuse

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  136. Psychopathic lying now comprises virtually ALL of the public discourse over vital topics here in Austfailia. The Chinese, Russia, Iranian, US Imperialist, Israeli etc discourses are ALL 100% Groupthink, ‘ditto-head’ gibbering, that five minutes Googling, let alone any recollection of previous Imperial elite lying eg Saddam’s WMD, Russian meddling in the US elections, Russian bounties in Afghanistan, babies thrown out of humidicribs in Kuwait etc (one could go on ALL day), would refute in a trice.
    ALL dissenting voices, always mild, at the margins, advocating some restraint in, say, the race-hatred driven frenzy of Sinophobia, have long been banished. The most notorious liars, like the ‘Xinjiang genocide’ confabulator, Adrian Zenz, now that he has been outed by people like Grayzone, have been brushed-up and given some media training, and appear on TV, lying as his psychotic, racist, ‘God’ (his own ego, as usual)decrees, and are FAWNED upon. Then the very same hate-mongering presstitutes hypocritically lament the ever-rising tide of Sinophobic hatred here in Australia, with its assaults, abuse and threats, a tsunami of hatred that they have been creating and worsening for at least a decade
    I put the rise of really vicious and outrageous lying down to the Zionazis, of course, who have nearly killed free speech as ‘antisemitism’ throughout the West, after years of assiduous manouevring, and the anthropogenic climate destabilisation denial industry, that psychopathic death-cult created by the fossil fuel industry and the hard Right, that rejects science and reality in pursuit of suicidal omnicide.

  137. Excellent article, Mr Cathey. Thank you.

    From my own observations and life experiences, I would have to say that the vast majority of POD people are daily TV watchers, or to a lesser degree readers of “newspapers”, but little else. I have worked with them over the last 30 to 40 years.

    One guy in particular, read the Washington Post faithfully, day in, day out, and fancied himself very well informed and correct on most all political issues. Then there are the people who when they’re not working, spend most of their time in front of the TV. Whether it be “news” or “sports” or the disgusting garbage that passes for entertainment these days on every major network.

    Fred Reed wrote an excellent essay on the problem years ago.

    http://www.strike-the-root.com/4/reed/reed11.html

    I have members of my own family who buy the bullshit and accuse me of being callous and uncaring because I utterly reject the Covid/mask nonsense.

    There are people I work with now who swallowed the George Floyd nonsense, hook, line and sinker. These are people who have never lived in a black majority city or town, but think it wouldn’t be a problem if they did.

    Then of course there is the other type. The folks who think being Republican and watching Fox “news” places them in a special category. They supported Bush 1 and 2 and all the Iraq propaganda. They still get worked up over Syria, Iran and Russia. They buy the Holoco$t lies and pledge their love of Israel openly…lol

    • Replies: @stevennonemaker88
  138. @Bardon Kaldian

    At levels of c.500 ppm CO2 begins to affect cognition. In cities it is often beyond that, and in buildings, particularly the poorly ventilated, it can go much higher. And particulate matter can cross the blood-brain barrier, including nanoparticles, and wreak havoc.

    • Replies: @restless94110
  139. There has been no common ground since the 1960s. For several decades, decent Whites still held the line in some respects, but after the late-60s the (((big lie))) of racial egalitarianism was the dominant ideology. Since the triumph of that malignant social pathology, White civilization has been in its terminal stage. The recent presidential election that was OPENLY stolen by the Left means that the only solution can only be one of force. Whites must now begin to start fighting back. It will be very, very unpleasant, but we have no choice. Whites haven’t won a clear victory since the early-1920s immigration restriction act. Since then it’s been one defeat after another. It’s all just a matter of will. We have to start winning soon though. Our (((enemies))) and their nonWhite foot soldiers are perilously close to destroying civilization.

    • Agree: GeneralRipper
  140. @Jeffrey A Freeman

    Watching said bovine will give you Madcow Disease. It rots the brain, as it has hers.

  141. @stevennonemaker88

    The reason that there is no “middle ground” is because the Left ( AKA Big Jew) does not desire anything but the compete and utter destruction of Western Christian Civilization.

    The political spectrum has shifted radically leftward even since the end of WW2, and it went into another gear with the Marxist Revolution in the Sixties and the “Civil Rights” movement.

    http://antitechnocrat.net/node/25

    Trump and his supporters were savaged and hated 24/7 365 over the last four years.

    I look forward to the eventual mass bloodshed.

    • Replies: @stevennonemaker88
  142. @Hacienda

    Life is a minefield, you got to have some fun with the explosions occasionally. This is pretty much my end of life wisdom.

    Here’s my hand brother.

    An unwanted truth equals a wanted falsity.

    I am not sure that I can judge that what people want is wrong for them. When I argue with some people while I am fixed to the cross of my Rational Truth God, I despair in anger and anguish. When I descend into their shoes, I don’t know any more.

    My mother was not clever – she was religious and practical, not theoretical, though she had a vast array of wonderful folk wisdom sayings. We never really argued. I did not want to subject her to something almost impossible for her – and I thank my lucky stars for that. My dad was very intelligent, and towards the latter part of his life we had heated arguments sometimes literally through the night – seeing the sun rise. One late evening my mother was so upset by our incessant arguing – she loved us both – that she vomited.

    Should we give our lives for truth? Or is truth just an instrument to live? I will lie to others in my discretion when I think that is good. I assume that is what others are also doing. Will I lie to myself when opportune? Perhaps less than most – I’d like to believe that. But being totally immune to self-deception? No. And peoples’ circumstances and interests differ. Who am I to tell people what degree of falsity towards themselves and others should be in their lives? Are they not the best judge of that themselves? Perhaps the central human right. Sure, they can err. We all can.

    On a more practical sanguine note: A commander of an army residential camp was once implored by one of the security personnel to do something about the slinking around at night of residents on their moonlit escapades – constituting a security risk. “Officer”, responded the jaded commander, “I will never succeed in making fucking unpopular.”

    Unzers, we will never succeed in making arguing unpopular. Nor, like for the happy campers, should we.

  143. niceland says:

    Why drive away, family, friends or anyone because of political differences? Don’t argue politics with them if it poisons the atmosphere too much. Much of politics is total nonsense anyway, with American politics approaching ground zero in this regard. It’s not worth it and real life connections to people are important.

    Why partake in the Cancel Culture on personal level? Perhaps the incredible divide in America is simply the consequence of too much political spin doctoring for too long gone wrong, and no one is at the helm. Or perhaps this is deliberate to some degree by design by some dark players. Either way, I see no reason to participate.

    I think both sides of the aisle are full of shit to some degree and most likely, if some sense is to be found – it’s in the middle. Both sides are playing dirty. The Overton window has been dragged into personal or identity politics so perhaps there is no middle ground and it’s just all nonsense.

    Reading the comment section here on Unz, presumably occupied mostly right wing conservatives, I can see obvious REAL political differences vs the democrats. But I guess in more mainstream circles the divide isn’t about real issues. Case in point the article: What were they really arguing about, the author and Susan? Tax- or economic policies, the foreign policy, energy, infrastructure, agriculture or education? No, it was just about the political theater. Trump vs Biden.

    • Replies: @stevennonemaker88
    , @Alden
  144. Richard B says:

    That’s sad it happened to your friend. It happened to a family member of mine as well, and talking with them is useless.

    Same here. And you’re right. Talking to them is useless. And I’m not Right or Left and didn’t vote for Trump. But the Left, or whatever one wants to call it, has lost it, competely.

    I eventually went No Contact with family and friends. Though by no means easy, it was worth it. In fact, highly and humbly recommended to anyone thinking about it.

    From the article:

    Susan exploded as I had never heard her do before

    Reminds me of what Nietzsche said, in so many words.

    Whenever someone overreacts it means they’re lying to themselves about something.

  145. Nancy says:
    @Mustapha Mond

    Thanks, MM. I can now feel that someone.. somewhere!… resonates with my frustration : ) and my (ridiculous ?) optimism…. that there is an outlying slim possibility that enough of us can be enough of a threat to TPTB (agreed, the Talmudists’) plans. I think it also serves their purposes when we give up, concede that they are all-powerful, and suffer frustration with no options for … action.

  146. @Mustapha Mond

    Nice ‘welcome wagon’ response/invitation. It is the inclusion of many voices which makes UR an unmatched site for those who quest for truth, realism and common sense. We do have our spats and differences—even a few warts and a toad or two—but considered holistically, Unz is a place where the First Amendment is honored in its entirety.

    • Agree: Mustapha Mond
  147. @Corrupt

    China has nothing like the assault on the base population going on in the US. China has uniform education without endless systemic racism propaganda and equity stupidity, both of which lead to stupid, uneducated people.

    I can think of only two minority populations that want their freedom, but I don’t see them vying for it in any substantive way, and I don’t see them as significant. You would have to compare your chosen examples with blacks and with trans/gays in the US for it to be comparative. Minorities in China have no power. The opposite is true in America. In fact, the minority tail is wagging the base population in the US. And that is severely affecting the education of the young, which is destroying America’s ability to compete with these homogeneous nations (China and Russia).

    I would add also that as Fred and others like Ellen Brown have clearly pointed out, China has a vision and takes measures so that their people can do those things. It’s a combination of vision and economic incentives for their people. There is nothing like that in America.

  148. @Fozzy Bear

    Could you also put up a link to videos of the riot or insurrection at the Capitol on January 6th? I think Dr. Cathey needs to look at that also and perhaps look at the records of those arrested. Also a link showing Trump’s entire speech that day and the account of his actions afterward need to be put out there also. The rioters on January 6th were not Antifa or BLM people. They were clearly Trump’s people.

  149. @GeneralRipper

    Even the terms left and right have the effect of steering the conversation towards a false dichotomy. The world is a complex place, and such extremely oversimplified labels cannot possibly describe reality. The powers that be try to get you into one of two camps: libtarded godless BLM perverts or pro war pro israel pro cop serfs. Someone who wants actual justice and freedom and not to be a pawn for the (((bankers))) does not fit anywhere on the so called political spectrum.

    But I agree, the globalist jews have been intentionally destroying the west for a long time, and have pretty much succeeded. Mass bloodshed and total collapse is probably the only hope for our country. The real question is how much longer they can or will keep this charade going…

    • Replies: @Nancy
  150. @Gina Schrank

    Gina, good to hear another’s story, I know there are many of us shaking our heads and wondering what happened.

    What will change it? Extraordinary events is the only thing, I regret to say. I believe that our friends somehow think that the illusion they are living in will always hold, and that if you and I and others think different and talk about it, then they can easily ignore it or write it off.

    You know years ago, in my Senior High school Civics class (and that’s how many years ago it was), I had a teacher who told me (this was about conservatives at the time): they just think it will never happen to them.

    For many of those we know, things are going ok for them, and the only problem is those damn ignorant deplorable “racists” or whatever.

    I told my friend in my last sentences in my letter to him: We’ll just have to wait until you experience some of the changes I have. Maybe then we can try it again.

    Maybe. But you know, did the people who were in The Red Guard ever change their minds? What about the Khmer Rouge? Of the Bolsheviks who slaughtered the heart of Russian society?

    People are strange. I don’t think these times are due to some unique CO2 thing or like that. It’s what you see over and over again over the past 130 years or so.

    I hope it doesn’t come to the previous hysterias, but if it does, I hope that I am far far away from the pod people that I once knew as regular humans.

    • Replies: @Gina Schrank
  151. chris says:
    @Barack Hussein Obama

    I find that women seem especially susceptible to this hysterical lunacy. People you’ve known for years sound, like Boyd is saying, behaving exactly like cult members. More than a “quasi-religion,” it really is a religion.

    What shocks me the most is how effective this transparent the mass propaganda has been in pulling their strings so perfectly. The whole time it was happening over the last couple of years, I felt very insulted that they would try to fool us with such stupid constructions. What I didn’t realize was that the story itself is completely secondary. If you can pummel people with propaganda and constantly pull their strings you have them eating out of your hand in no time. And I don’t believe for a second that this aspect of this leftist coup was unplanned.

  152. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    The Earth has been over 500ppm many many times in its history. I doubt what you are saying is true.

    • Replies: @Peripatetic Itch
  153. chris says:
    @restless94110

    Great description and analysis of a phenomenon we’ve all started to experience lately.

    On one count though I would alleviate your worries, “I do not see how the United States can defend itself from large homogeneous countries like Russia and China (and even Iran).” I don’t think we really have anything to worry about on those counts, certainly not if the US doesn’t continue to attack them.

    • Replies: @restless94110
  154. @niceland

    Thanks for your thoughtful post.

    There certainly is a global quest for power by (((bankers))), but this is not the only factor. Most people are sheep and are ideologically tribal and cannot really think for themselves, which makes them easy to manipulate. The technological advances and material prosperity post ww2 also had the effect of severing people from reality in many ways, which is another factor. Most things we take for granted like a car are actually highly complex with thousands of parts, and built on technology that took centuries to develop. The same is true with civilization; there are no easy answers or painless solutions, whatever people have been told.

  155. Oh god! I began reading this article but gave it up after about 3 paragraphs. the most hopeless aspect of all of this is the writer himself. so depressing he is incredible! how does he manage o get from day to day?

    what is missing in the situation is the ordinary input words and deeds of the ordinary American people.

    the current president is illegal and the American people let it stand. the rich have treed the people, made them stupid and unable to act in their own best interest as individual and collective. that is what is truly sad! the American people cannot conceive of, and take action, on a single positive act to get rid of Joe Biden and renovate their system single post.

    the situation would be hopeless if there were no ways out indeed, but there are many ways out but the American people are stymied and certainly this journalist is incapable of helping the people out of their mire.

    it occurred to me that the American people could begin by actually shutting down the country…by stopping work period.

    lots of hardship but the difficulties and deprivations of stopping work, shutting down the country are being visited on the people anyway. but the locked down imposed by the people would be different hitting the rich where it matters. it would be time for negotiation so what do the people want:

    new elections! by direct voting at voting stations.. no mail ins

    open up the country now! end the silly lockdowns…piss on Covid! no vaccinations! at least not mandatory ever!

    immediate reform of the economy by purging financial parasitism and the restoration of balance the produces a livable economic reality

    there must open and decisive public discussion on the shape of the economy forming…PARTICULARLY ON THE INTRODUCTION OF TECHNOLOGIES THAT ELIMIANTE JOBS!

    the use-value and role of corporations in the economy! in the society? are the necessary? who do they benefit…certainly not the ordinary people. they are monopolies and monopolies are anathema to democracy. the corporations must be broken up

    Political reform! one way would be for the people in all elections to ignore the political parties period. voting in independents is legal in America isn’t it! what is wrong with the people in their towns and cities and states simple go around without he use of any professionals at all, to look for them and select the men and women they want, unaffiliated to any political party, set them for the election and vote them into office, for they specific purposes the people direct them to carry out.

    the political reform must include immediate recall so anytime a political deviation from the popular interest takes place, at all levels – city, region, state, nation the politician can be pulled and a new election carried out and vote them into office…

    in the space of 4 years both the Democrats and Republican parties would be stone cold dead, defunct, extinct and a new politics in place in America…just like that! what are they going to do…pass a law making those two parties permanent and voting for either or mandatory? that’s not possible! they may try but by that time the people would be ready to turn it all upside down..

    and with all of that we have only just begun….
    there is a whole lot to be done to ensure that the entire national collective is taken care of currently and on-going into the future. and that is what the people must be about immediately before we are totally usurped and made redundant ourselves…like the powers are now trying to imprison us inside our own bodies with rNA vaccinations

    there are so many ways within the process of the existing routine the people can use to start to change the total social reality towards full reform, and complete such reform, going all the way.. but it all remains unexplored while we have journalists like this one here, pouring on the gloom and despair, which works to deepen the the total loss of faith in in the nation, in life itself.

    the government, the parties, the rich are only a few people, thousands of rip off and con artists, versus hundreds of millions ordinary people, who have managed to guide the vast population into total fear and compliance with their exploitation of same multitudes?

    how in the hell do those few people manage to brown beat such a force of population, who in collective political action can sweep them all away along with the police and military who decide to actually fight for them, and not with their friends and families, their parents and all their relatives who make up the general population. into total fear and compliance with the exploitative policies?

    it is time for the people to act and for the journos to help but standing up and writing to improve the general mood. to improve the mood discover what can be done by the people for the people and talk about it. if the established media wont print it make alternative news. and shut down the established media as well in the general shut down of the nation. no one work goes to work at all. do not lift a finger to produce any news by the established media… only the alternative sites that speak the truth

    they wanted shut down to kill all small businesses so that the monopolies could become complete and consume the entire economy. so give them the shutdown they wanted…complete! and kill them at the same time. that is what the people must do…eliminate he monopolies in all areas of life..in the media, in food and finance, manufacturing of cars, truck, trains and planes…..

    there must be no monopolies at all! and the people…all of the people must participate in the structuring of the evolution of their social life and culture. they people have dominant say ion how it all goes of a few will say for the vast majority and that can not and never will work out well. it is either the people come out and force such an opening up of the social process, or they come out and take over society totally in their own name and responsibility, and reform it all to whatever the know is in the best general interest, by their own decision and direction and labor

    • Replies: @Emslander
  156. All this was inspired by the principle – which is quite true in itself – that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying. These people know only too well how to use falsehood for the basest purposes. From time immemorial, however, the Jews have known better than any others how falsehood and calumny can be exploited. Is not their very existence founded on one great lie, namely, that they are a religious community, where as in reality they are a race? And what a race! One of the greatest thinkers that mankind has produced has branded the Jews for all time with a statement which is profoundly and exactly true. Schopenhauer called the Jew “The Great Master of Lies”. Those who do not realize the truth of that statement, or do not wish to believe it, will never be able to lend a hand in helping Truth to prevail. — Adolf Hitler

  157. @Minnesota Mary

    How do you attempt a government overthrow without guns while government security forces have guns? Are you really that stupid? Or are you a TV watcher?

    • Replies: @Minnesota Mary
  158. @ebear

    This all happened in Canada BTW, so clearly the disease has spread beyond the USA.

    Yes, but way worse, I think. The media up here are almost universally virulent in their hatred for Mr. Trump. Our Deputy PM saw herself as the Minister in charge of the Ukraine from the time she stepped into her previous position at Global Affairs. She and the drama teacher sucked up to George Soros big time, hosted the Ukrainian president in Ottawa for a week, I think, and gave huge subsidies to the media for cow-towing to their views.

    In opposition we have but a few lonely voices. Amazing Polly and the People’s Party come to mind. The rest of us just try to keep our heads down.

    • Thanks: Miro23
    • Replies: @Majority of One
  159. @anonymous

    “before it gets Suessed.”
    Fair point & like your verb — “Suessed”.
    (To me it’s censorship however, or whatever caused a statue, book, article, letter, tweet, doodle etc to be withdrawn because it’s “idea” is unacceptable to “people”.)

  160. Culpepper says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    ‘If someone knows how to embed a link so the A-F video will appear, please do so.

    Many Planetlockdown videos can be found on Youtube under the search term truth matters.

    Here is a salient version of the C.A.F. interview:

    The full version was removed.

  161. oh man! that post of mine was actually put up by the mod(s)! it got sent by mistake, a wrong click before I edited it.

    my apology for all the typos. I thought the mod(s) would toss the post not post it up!

    I type carelessly first draft knowing that I am going to try to edit before I send the post. and I do catch most of the mistakes during an edit. hope however, that it is still reasonably legible anyway, and relevant too.

    I will read the full article later, and if I find there is reason to I will correct myself and say sorry to the author above.

  162. @Minnesota Mary

    Apologies for the rest of us Minnesotans, particularly rural folk and the Awakening (not woke). Were I married to Mary I’d remove all boobtoobs from the house and rock them with large granite pebbles.

    • Replies: @Minnesota Mary
  163. @Peripatetic Itch

    Lottsa Ukies in Canuckistan, some of them rabid Romanist-Uniate Galicians, while many others are rightfully upset at the Holodomor. They need to come to the realization that the Russian people were not responsible for that. It was a Bolshevik thing and was run by some relative of Viccious Nudelman (aka Nuland) and of the notorious Neocon, Robert Kagan and even S. Ct. “Justice” Elena Kagan.
    They are all descendants of Khazaria’s ruling Kagans as was Stalin’s henchman Lazar Kaganovitch, the bloodthirsty Khazarian who directed the tragedy.

    Also tragic is that ever since the overthrow of the legitimate, elected Ukraine government nearly 7 years ago, that ever-suffering country has been run by a clique of well connected Khazarian oligarchs with a close alliance with Galician fascists.

    Can it be that Ukie Canuckistanis are as much media mesmerized morons as are American boobtoob noose addicts? Kinda looks that way.

  164. @restless94110

    Carbon dioxide commonly gets up to 5000 ppm in nuclear submarines without causing any difficulty. Submarines would be the last place you could tolerate any detrimental effects on cognition.

    Geologically speaking, all shells of corals and crustaceans are formed by combining calcium with CO2 dissolved in water. So every shellfish removes CO2 from the atmosphere to form its skeleton, which then drops to the seabed to form the world’s great coral reefs and limestone beds. We may presume that the fall in atmospheric CO2 concentrations from the perhaps 7000 ppm, 500 million years ago, to 415 ppm today was effected in large part by those animals.

    The great coal beds were also formed by Carboniferous forests that sequestered carbon from CO2 in much the same way. Presumably they formed before bacteria and fungi had evolved to decompose them and recycle their carbon back to the atmosphere.

    Today we actually live in a CO2-depleted atmosphere. Several times in recent geological history its concentration has fallen to levels below 150 ppm, where most plants have difficulty thriving and start to die. This happens mostly in ice ages when cold water soaks up extra CO2. Of course if plants die, we starve.

    In a rational world, those who advocate for the capture and storage of CO2 or the shellfish who do it naturally would be seen as the greatest despoilers of the environment.

    • Agree: restless94110
    • Thanks: Schuetze, Majority of One
  165. Icy Blast says:

    The illustration accompanying this article is really bad. The guy on the left looks like the former coach of the New York (football) Giants.

  166. durd says:
    @Minnesota Mary

    Fozzy Bear and Dr. Cathey scratches head, raises eyebrow and thinks….unreal….Really????

    “Wake up lost in an empty town
    Wondering why no one else is around
    Look up to see a giant boy
    You’ve just become his brand new toy
    No escape, no place to hide
    Here where Time and Space collide”

    Welcome to the ……… ….

  167. @chris

    certainly not if the US doesn’t continue to attack them.

    That is the operative phrase. Note how many deluded crazed generals America has, active and retired. Note how many rabid neo-con war hawks America has in positions of power and influence. Note how tethered to Israel’s insane fear mongering of Iran that America is.

    I’ve said for several years now, America is going to get spanked. I just don’t know when.

    • Agree: Emslander
    • Replies: @chris
  168. There are some people who see what’s going on, as clear as looking through polished glass, while others look at a sheet of lead.
    But the question is why?

    What do I really think?
    It’s simply those who can see are the chosen, those who will lead the Europeans into our future. The rest will fall by the wayside, becoming victims of the BLM & Antifa, they stupidly call out as peaceful and just.

    Its the only explanation I can think of. I know quite a few people, people I thought intelligent, but not so as they lack critical thinking.
    The fuse is lit. It’s burning to boom time. Get ready for its arrival and be prepared.

    • Troll: stevennonemaker88
    • Replies: @stevennonemaker88
  169. @Schuetze

    Poor Grandma is stuck in the middle but says she doesn’t want the vaccination.

    Seems pretty straight forward to me. Grandma’s body, Grandma’s choice.

    Your story reminds me of a story of my own.

    My Grandma spent the last years of her life in a nursing home. When she was about 93 years old, her doctors decided that her gall bladder needed to be removed. My Dad and sister were both completely on board with this idea silly idea. (My grandma was an old time nurse. She was the head nurse at her hospital for decades before she retired. She also did private in home nursing.) So, the day came when my Dad and the doctors tried to inform her that they were going to remove her gall bladder. She listened patiently for a few minutes as they explained how important this operation was, to which she replied…

    “Y’all must be the dumbest bunch of dumbfucks ever.”

    Grandma passed away a couple years later with her gall bladder intact.

    • Replies: @Schuetze
  170. @Mustapha Mond

    Oh how I long for a loving woman who gets it! You are so lucky. Five years ago I revealed 9-11 Truth and the sacred six gorillion to my wife. She threw a heavy water glass at me, striking me in the head. Then she cried and and declared I was a terrible person for not respecting the sacred. We split soon after that. What I fear more than the loneliness is what if this knowledge has made me wild-eyed, crude and unacceptable in polite company — the kind of man most women cannot abide.

    • Thanks: Mustapha Mond
  171. S says:
    @Barack Hussein Obama

    I’m not sure what forces are responsible for this, but I bet social media companies and governments have learned how to radicalize and essentially hypnotize people through curating their media and especially social media environments.

    You might find the ‘Main Points’ portion of the link below of some interest in that regard.

    In 1961 Dr Robert J Lifton wrote the book described on the subject of ‘thought reform’, ie brainwashing. When reading the ‘main points’ of the book it’s abundantly clear that the corporate mass media of the US has been using the very same techniques he described sixty years ago on the modern day American public, which in turn we’re the techniques which had been used on American POW’s at the Yalu River POW camps by their N Korean and Chinese captors during the Korean War.

    Not coincidentally it was also the early 1960’s which saw the Frank Sinatra movie The Manchurian Candidate released. In the movie it is the Queen of Diamonds card which was the programmed person’s ‘trigger’. Today it is the ‘red MAGA cap’.

    A brief description of the book’s contents:

    …Lifton identified the tactics used by Chinese communists to cause drastic shifts in one’s opinions and personality and “brainwash” American soldiers into making demonstrably false assertions.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought_Reform_and_the_Psychology_of_Totalism

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Manchurian_Candidate_(1962_film)

    • Thanks: Barack Hussein Obama
  172. S says:
    @Gina Schrank

    Thank you for your insightful and brave posts.

    It’s a rare bird amongst any people which questions the status quo and doesn’t simply follow the herd.

  173. Schuetze says:
    @Adam Smith

    This Grandma has had a long struggle against Melanoma and has many other issues. She takes dozens of different pills and goes in to see one doctor or another at least once a month, if not every couple of weeks. Luckily her husband worked for the county and she never pays a dime. Our fear is far less that the brother will convincer her to take the vax than that during some visit the doctor/hospital with sneak it on her or coerce her into taking it.

    • Replies: @Adam Smith
  174. mcohen says:

    you all have to understand clearly when you look at either side.i call it my info flow mo.goes like this
    in order to change facts on the ground one has to control the flow of information in both directions

    its like a power forms 2 teams to play against each other and sets it up in a way that the desired final result is achieved.
    that reality becomes the fact on the ground.

    we all participate in the game but certain tweaks lead to a result or “win” for one side.

    the only way forward is for america to change the federal government every 4 years automatically and let local government be elected by the people.in my opinion this will greatly stabilise the present state of affairs

    • Replies: @Malla
  175. GMC says:
    @saggy

    Go read the comments on Salon , about the Jan 6 ” Capital Riots” – or any other ones about the Republicans etc. You will believe that there are thousands of Susans out there and the men are just as stupid. Yea Unz Review.

    • Replies: @saggy
  176. You raised some very interesting points.

    I just want to pass on something I noticed over decades. Buddha made some very lengthy pronouncements while some were rather short.
    ‘Abandon dirt, abandon stains.’
    A well studied and experience teacher could talk about the meaning and implications of those 4 words for days.
    Buddha taught in an environment in which people were well prepared to hear and implement his message.
    A common part of longer teachings was to declare the mantra that encompassed an aspect of Buddhist practice that represented or encapsulated the teachings.
    Om Ah Hum is the mantra of All Buddha’s. Mantra means ‘mind protection’. So, in essence, different mantras will benefit and protect our minds in different ways.

    What modern propaganda-satanism does is attempt to hijack this mental dynamic between words and mind. FEAR. Buddha would say ‘Fear not. Rejoice in virtue-that of others and your own.’ ‘JUST TAKE THE JAB, COWARD’ says the agent (in this case, Dolly Parton). Buddha says’Investigate.Meditate.Analyze. Decide based on Reason.’
    Despite seeing ‘Mindfulness’ being over-used for over a decade, it is a very important word.If we remain aware then we can’t be deceived very easily. If we give up our responsibility and let others make our decisions for us we may feel better on the surface but having abandoned reason once it soon can become habit.
    This conditioned fear response has been drilled into many viewers minds. By the time some people have gotten to a certain level of exposure they have lost any and all mind protection and are now simply brain dead robots mindlessly repeating slogans (a satanic mantra) and often under media control.
    We are at the point where the lemmings are now dangerous. The media will drum up their level of fear into a frothing mass of boiling hate over the next few years. We are entering anotber level of conflict with Evil and it is important that we are aware of this and prepare for it.
    This is now the perfect time to renew and reaffirm our faith. I hope everyone can pray for peace but prepare for the worst in their own way.

    • Thanks: Emslander
    • Replies: @Nancy
  177. Emslander says:
    @ben sampson

    Bet you’re happy they made that stuff legal.

    • Replies: @ben sampson
  178. It’s a rare bird amongst any people which questions the status quo and doesn’t simply follow the herd.

    And Unz can create quite a stampede. Not saying the direction is wrong. Just the stampede “for people which doesn’t simply follow the herd.”

  179. Rather disappointed I’m the first one here, after 70 or so comments, to point out #Secession is the way forward.

    Like a marriage gone sour, we Red Staters have nothing in common with the now biblically-evil federal mafia and blue state self-hating whites and gibs-grabbing foreigners, devoid of critical thinking skills, who abhor the Constitution.

    There needn’t be war, just a semi-amicable parting of ways, with states on both sides controlling a share of nukes to keep things civil.

    All we would really need for the Free United States Starter Kit would be Texas and Florida.

    • Replies: @Emslander
  180. JackOH says:
    @Marckus

    The thinking man sees no reason to persist in useless discussion and so withdraws.

    Good, interesting comment, Marckus. I’ve known a handful of decent, able people who’ve disengaged or been forced to disengage from the world–i. e., jobs, family, friends, etc.–because, indeed, the screamers, the manipulators, the wire-pullers, the hustlers of all sorts command the stage.

    One brief example. An acquaintance of mine took a job with a defense contractor. A skilled machinist, he soon discovered he was expected to approve parts that were not up to spec, and therefore he was to play the fall guy for a corrupt management. Devastated, he quit. He took a beating from that mistake.

    I know employment is not the sort of “discussion” you were thinking of, but it’s an example that came to my mind quickly. I can just about guarantee, though, that a discussion with the mad dogs and screamers means one side plays by “heads I win, tails I win” rules.

  181. chris says:
    @restless94110

    certainly concur !!! (ran out of “AGREE” buttons)

  182. @White Elephant

    It’s simply those who can see are the chosen

    Thank you for your input, Mr Goldberg. Or was it Cohen?

    You sound just like the Zionists you (allegedly) despise. You think the world is binary? people are either going to “lead the Europeans” or else they must become victims of the BLM & Antifa?

    You are deranged.

  183. Well, I suppose you and I could be the mind-numbed, delusional zombies who do indeed have lying eyes and ears, but President Trump being in the White House had no more effect on me than President Obama. Same amount of sleep, no increased use of substances and no measurable degradation of my standard of living (it’s been only getting better all the time). None of my core values was attacked much differently from one to the other. And I did not feel the urge to wail and scream at the Heavens, nor to wear funny headgear when Mr. Biden was sworn in.

    In other words, I don’t seem to have experienced anything that would make me snap and start seeing and hearing things that just aren’t true to real life, so I suspect you and I are just fine, although nevertheless in grave danger.

    The problem that we have is that while we often go to primary sources and to question things merely presented to us if the story seems a bit fantastic, the others don’t have that problem; they get their information from curated and edited sources that they are convinced they can trust, and that’s as much depth as they can afford to spend on reality. It is easier to “other” us than to challenge their own belief system.

  184. Emslander says:
    @Sick of Orcs

    Secession is good, especially secession of the mind from this corrupt culture. (See 182, above.)

    Any insurrection from now on shouldn’t be directed at the government. Armed rebellion against our digital overlords on the West Coast would be the best bet. Then the government would wither on the vine.

    • Thanks: Sick of Orcs
  185. @restless94110

    At the risk of going to a place where you might not want to go, I will just say that my more “benign” explanations for the seemingly inexplicable ignorance displayed by my own friends and family (i.e. CO2 or some other external cause) are really a bit of a diversion from what I really believe. You are quite right, in my opinion, in citing some of the leftist revolutionary movements of recent times, in your suggestion that people never change their stripes.

    As someone who was born and raised Jewish, I am quite familiar with the Jewish mindset toward the world. The Jewish view of things (as I have learned it) is that the world is perfectible and that people can be made to conform to an ideology, however grotesque it may seem in the abstract. Since Jewish interests are very much behind the revolution that is being foisted upon us in America, and since the Jewish mindset has been very favorably inclined toward marxism or some variant thereof, for at least the last 100 years, it appears to me that the obliviousness to obvious truth, that characterizes our new “revolutionists” , is wholly consistent with previous attempts to place the square pegs of “honesty” and “decency” and simple respect for others, in the round holes of political correctness which coincide rather closely with marxist ideology. Jews see leftist ideological movements as a necessary remedy for Jewish marginalization over the centuries. The concomitants of leftism, namely globalism and ” anti-Christianism”, are certainly being implemented in our country right now. By forcing an egalitarian leveling, under the auspices of a Jewish ruling class, the interests of freedom loving people who settled on this continent in order to pursue their own economic and religious dreams, are being stifled and perhaps erased.

    Leaving people the hell alone (a rough translation of the Christian admonition to Love Thy Neighbor), is not a known attribute of Marxist practitioners. I am afraid that we are about to see a real life demonstration of the wisdom of our founding fathers in propagating the 2nd Amendment. Fighting back against the totalitarians is about to become the last stand for people who value our Christian and freedom loving roots as a people. I am an American first, and a Jew second. And my Jewish loyalty extends only to the venerable precepts of a great religion, not to its current acolytes in Israel or the United States, who have have turned Judaism and human decency on their heads in service to a secular master. All the best…

    • Thanks: Emslander, S
    • Replies: @restless94110
    , @S
  186. @Schuetze

    Our fear is far less that the brother will convincer her to take the vax than that during some visit the doctor/hospital with sneak it on her or coerce her into taking it.

    I’ve heard of people being jabbed in the hospital after they’ve said no thanks to the vaccine.

    I know a lady who was in the hospital to have her appendix removed. The hospital asked her if she would like a flu shot and a pneumonia shot while she was there. She said, no thanks, but the hospital gave them to her anyway while she was asleep on pain killers. The doctor or someone at the hospital decided she needed them as she wasn’t “up to date”. Perhaps it’s just hospital policy or something.

    Never mind that every vaccine insert says in nice bold language that this vaccine shall not be given to anyone who is sick, or running a fever, or recovering from surgery, etc. Not that anyone reads the package inserts.

    I know another lady whose doctor recommended the shingles vaccine one visit. She is allergic to neomycin. She told the doctor (who she happens to be pretty good friends with) that the insert says not to give the vaccine to anyone with a mycin allergy. This doctor was nice and honest about it. The doctor (who is about 60 years old and has been a doctor for decades) admitted that she had never read a vaccine insert. Next time they met the doctor said that what she read in the insert has made her reevaluate what she thought she knew about vaccines.

    This doctor reads package inserts and is more careful now. She rethought what she thought she knew about medicine because the patient in question is one of this doctor’s healthiest patients among people in her age class.

    If grandma ends up in the hospital for some reason just tell everyone that she is all up to date on all of her shots. Don’t leave her alone, unattended, though that may not be an option because they don’t let family into the hospital anymore. Scary stuff.

    I wish you and your family good luck navigating these interesting times.

  187. Nancy says:
    @stevennonemaker88

    I know it’s hard (impossible?) not to conclude that ‘we’ are helpless, and maybe it is true. (Perhaps it’s one of their strategies to make us believe that.) But for our own health and happiness, I think it is important to look for ANY possible avenue of action… we only hurt ourselves by indulging in paralyzing frustration. We do have control over where we put our attention in this ‘now’ – our only reality? And I also think it is dangerous hubris to assume we can ‘tell the future’ with any certainty… or even know the past (thanks, Ron 🙂

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  188. Nancy says:
    @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    Amen!! ‘We have nothing to fear but fear itself’ (we know FDR’s ‘failings’, but we can copy his effective communication techniques. .. a great sound byte.) An we can substitute, per deMello, ‘Awareness, awareness, awareness’ for the worn out ‘mindfulness’. We do have control of our attention and where we put it in the ‘now’ which is our only reality. We’re admonished to be innocent as doves and cunning as serpents.. i.e., their tools against them. Great stuff — thanks.

  189. saggy says:
    @GMC

    I realize there are plenty of Susans … but they are not idiots as portrayed in the article, e.g. Susan – ““It was those Proud Boys and rightwing extremists who did all that violence…the Black Lives Matter demonstrators were peaceful, just wanting justice.”” LOL.. that is a caricature, he made it up.

    From the article “President Trump specifically cautioned his supporters at the rally to be peaceful and let their voices be heard, but to do it in an orderly and lawful fashion….”. Here is how Trump closed the speech …. https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-speech-save-america-rally-transcript-january-6

    I think one of our great achievements will be election security because nobody until I came along, had any idea how corrupt our elections were. And again, most people would stand there at 9:00 in the evening and say, “I want to thank you very much,” and they go off to some other life, but I said, “Something’s wrong here. Something’s really wrong. Can’t have happened.” And we fight. We fight like Hell and if you don’t fight like Hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.
    ….
    So let’s walk down Pennsylvania Avenue. I want to thank you all. God bless you and God bless America. Thank you all for being here, this is incredible. Thank you very much. Thank you.

    #1 – our elections are not corrupt, this hoax was the basis of the … whatever you want to call it … this is an upfront attack on a core component of the govt, unprecdented … Trump is the ultimate Jew tool for wrecking the US govt.

    #2 – Trump said “Let’s walk … “, but he didn’t walk, he retired to his compound.

  190. @Emslander

    what stuff?

    Legalized what stuff!?? oh that stuff!

    I was never a fan man! not at all, though I had nothing against it. we used to use it for all manner of things. very useful that…medicinal etc. and it was food too, a veggie, among other things! you don’t know the half of it

    nah man! if you detect anything like that its Metformin…diabetes. I am trying hard not to descend to insulin. but at times I get so hungry I do crazy things…like 2 slices of irresistible pepperoni at a glorious killer fast-food deli. I paid for that. Terribly! Awfully. 3 tabs a have mushroomed into 6 now, trying to get a painless, flowing pee between the consequences of the pizza. Metformin is all your sensitivity can detect! that is all there is to it!

    then I come here and always run into the philosophy/history department of Any-University that is the UNZ review, and I get-pissed off. all this intellectual abstraction you guys talk and talk all the time …how does that help the situation?

    who understands all of that…or wants to understand it, to make all the interconnections when routine, ordinary experience is far far more direct and clarifying? the routine reality out there is horrid, brutal. exploitative zero sum…take no prisoners. what does all the abstraction about ideals and principles etc on the UNZ have to do with survival in real life, out there on the streets

    at least and apparently Unz posts up all he receives…censors nothing. that’s excellent, one reason why I stick around. but you guys should be about what the hell to do right now to change the reality for the better, to solve the existing social problems directly. things that occur to me all the time should be simple for all you ‘big domes’…like changing the routine general diet of Americans

    if Americans stop eating crap generally, eat healthy…simply eat lots of clean veggies little meat and a whole lot less carbs, it would be like night and day on the health train and major economic/social change. the current medical/health industrial infrastructure would be destroyed to the best interest of the entire society.

    you guys talk about nothing like this extensively, clearly, so ordinary people can figure it out, how it can be accomplished. in the face of what is going on, in the current popular experience the more such talk is opened and pushed, published everywhere the more likely great social change will be precipitated

    Emslander’s sensitivity cannot detect the need for such, but he can sense my sugar depleted disorientation and call it the legalization of whatever.

    oh boy!

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  191. Emslander says:
    @ben sampson

    At least you got the joke.

  192. @Gina Schrank

    You are quite right, in my opinion, in citing some of the leftist revolutionary movements of recent times, in your suggestion that people never change their stripes.

    I was more saying that most if not all people never can admit they were wrong in their beliefs. I suppose it’s the same thing in the end. I was coming from entertaining the idea that my relatives and (former) friends might one day realize how deluded they were, just as I came to realize, and that then they might return to my friendship and fellowship.

    In recent years, I have come to agree with much of what you say in the rest of your reply though. I would add that the modern version (as opposed to the early 20th century bolshie version) is more feminized, more about the “feels” than about anything logical, the masculine is in decline, which will prove disastrous. There was that guy in the 30s who studied 30 or so civilizations their rise and fall and noted the female rise was always central to the decline.

    Finally, you are onto something (as are more and more) with Jews. When they have been run out of societies over and over again, you have to conclude it’s not the people in the society, it’s probably the hews in the society.

    Through Unz–and especially the long-form essays of Ron Unz–I’ve come to understand the role of Jews in some of the most murderous regimes in the last 100 years, and even to wonder if the German’s and Hitler’s rejection of the Jews in their society was not for just cause.

    Perhaps, their influence underlies the delusions my friends and so many others are under now–after all, where did my friend get so deluded except via watching Jewish-controlled media. It’s like those that control really think there is no alternative there is only one right way. We are seeing the disintegration of that concept into madness and absurdity.

    It has been said that the Japanese decided against an invasion of the US because they knew its citizens were armed. So we can only hope you are right: people will take up arms if they are pushed to. And it appears that they are being pushed harder and harder.

    And amidst all of this, those that push the political correctness, the equity absurdity, the systemic racism stupidity, they seriously think America could stand against an homogeneous nation that has none of that? America’s motion picture art is being utterly destroyed, which is an enormous part of its influence in the world.

    Yet friends and family don’t see or understand this. Complacent, living off the laurels of yesterday, they fiddle while Rome starts to burn. The only thing I was wondering is will the sheep start to wake up as things get worse?

    I wrote almost the same letter after the election to a family member and a friend who asked me if I thought the election was stolen. To paraphrase: yes, but Trump wins no matter what. Because even if Biden/Harris take office (and they did), things are about to head south for America, and people will not be able to ignore it or cover it up much longer the bankruptcy of the pc/equity/systemic madness. The contrast will be so stark. At that point, people will go radical one way or the other.

    A strongman comes to the fore. Then things get authoritarian and regress.

    Will our Constitution protect that from occurring? In the early days of Roosevelt’s first term, his advisers warned him that the US was going either fascist or communist unless he did something to alleviate the grind of the Depression, desperate people and democracy don’t mix. The problem with capitalism is that it has to be adjusted regularly as all the goodies end up with the few every time. Marxists capitalize (no pun intended) on the intransigence of capitalists who believe “I earned mine,” and don’t want to give an inch.

    America: Change it or Lose it.

    No Democrat program has done that or will do that except to make things even worse.
    No Republican (except Trump in some ways) has done that.
    Zionism will fail–eventually.
    We are all but victims of time though.
    Caught up in the hurly burly of events.

    I wish my family and friends well, but I’d rather live with my eyes wide open than blind, deaf and dumb as so many of them have become.

  193. S says:
    @Gina Schrank

    Again, very insightful.

    I suppose I’ll throw in my two cents.

    As fantastic as it may sound, I see what’s taking place at present is part of a broadly controlled (crimethink, I know) Hegelian Dialectic which was deliberately put in motion in 1776 and 1789 with respective individualist Capitalist ‘thesis’ and collectivist Communist ‘anti-thesis’ revolutions in America and France.

    Since that time they’ve been guiding this dialectical process of Capitalism vs Communism like a road map with first the British Empire (and in time the US) acting as this manufactured dialectic’s arbiter (ie referee) to put in their place identity and empire oriented ‘upstarts’ such as Napoleon, Hitler, Tojo, Mussolini, etc, who threatened to get this dialectical process off track.

    The ultimate goal is Capitalism and Communism’s ‘synthesis’ so as to create global Multi-Culturalism in the form of a world state which (in theory) is to be a republic, and is to be populated by men and women who have been wholly renewed in the spirit of 1776 and 1789 in both their individual and collective identities.

    We should, therefore, soon expect to see the Fall of Capitalism, ie the economic and political collapse of the United States and its Western bloc, to clear the path for Capitalism and Communism’s final synthesis.

    As with the Fall of Communism thirty years ago, ie the Soviet and Eastern bloc collapse, this will be a top down affair and not organically driven. ‘Left’ types will be encouraged to think they are responsible for Capitalism’s purported demise, just as ‘Right’ types were encouraged to believe they caused Communism’s purported end decades ago.

    As occurred with the Fall of Communism thirty years ago, and the looting of the remnants of the Soviet Union, we should expect massive looting of the remnants of the Capitalist United States by those behind these events, the worker being worthy of his wages, so they tell themselves.

    Historically, those behind these events have largely consisted of powerful elements of the Anglo-Saxon and Jewish people’s elites, and their respective hangers on.

    This broadly controlled Hegelian dialectic is the only explanation I can see for a lot of events the past few centuries which otherwise simply don’t make sense.

  194. Malla says:
    @mcohen

    the only way forward is for america to change the federal government every 4 years automatically and let local government be elected by the people.in my opinion this will greatly stabilise the present state of affairs

    How about Swiss style referendums on important subjects such as immigration and wars? Switzerland is more democratic than any country on Earth including the USA, Great Britain (mother of democracies) or my country of India (biggest democracy on Earth). Without a Swiss style referendum system, our democracies are a farce. Politicians promise and break them promises and we modern humans with our short attention spans, childishly believing controlled propaganda called “news” and hooked on circus entertainment, forgive and forget.

  195. This is just a flareup in the 10,000+ year war between the hunter-gatherer mindset and the sedentary agriculturists/townsfolk mindset.

    The two groups have distinctly different beliefs in what is the best way to survive and prosper in life and different skill sets to enable it.

    There is a third distinct mindset, the freedom mindset, that is the latest to develop. It basically opposes the animal world alpha-male social hierarchies of the other two in favor of the primacy of the individual.

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  196. @Drapetomaniac

    Also, the hunter-gatherer mindset can’t compete against the townsfolk mindset very well so it must undermine it. Similarly, neither of those can compete well against the freedom mindset so both of those mindsets strive to undermine it.

  197. @Nancy

    I agree with you. We do not know the future, and we are not helpless. Nevertheless, it is also important to avoid false hopes (change within the system, vote for xyz, etc). We really are in uncharted waters in many respects. And the odds are certainly against us. I think one thing that is really missing is the WILL to fight (to die for the cause, but to kill for it first) among common people who are awake to what is going on.

  198. @Majority of One

    That’s right, isolate yourself and stick to your Q approved news sites only.

    The camera does not lie.

  199. @Chris in Cackalacky

    I’m a truth seeker. The camera does not lie. The violence shown in all the videos is undeniable, guns or no guns. The capitol police were not prepared and some of them let the rioters into the Capitol. It took forever to get the order for the National Guard to be sent in. Why? Did you even bother to watch the hearings on what happened and what went wrong?

    Me thinks you are part of the Q cult.

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  200. Alden says:
    @bayviking

    Why quote that anti White racist liberal song?

    MLK and both Kennedy brothers were as anti White as the Obamas Biden and Harris. And Abraham killed 750,000 White soldiers and 70-100 K White civilians as collateral damage in his war to unleash the black plague on the north and west. 6 weeks after he was inaugurated, March 1961 John issued the first affirmative action executive order. Bobby went ultra left lunatic anti White racist purely for political advantage. We all know MLK was a front man for the American communist party, a plagiarist with a fake degree a woman beater and all round scumbag piece of shit.

    And Emmy Lou Harris is a good singer. But like every other popular singer she was carefully selected to push Jewish liberalism, drugs promiscuity and anti White racism. You aren’t so naive as to think those musicians rose to fame based on their talents do you? Everyone of them was a carefully crafted and marketed liberal propaganda machine.

    John, Bobby and Martin America would be better off if they’d never lived. Although the Jews and liberals would have manufactured other front men had they not been available

  201. Alden says:
    @niceland

    It’s very difficult to avoid talking politics with liberals. It’s often their main topic of conversation. And if you aren’t in total agreement with them, they just keep trying to convince you of their view point.

    Most liberals are very dominant controllers. They’re always looking for heretics to harangue about something.

  202. @Minnesota Mary

    3M = Mindless Minnesota Mary. You must be from the Twin Toilets, as KimBurley calls the megalopolis. You give the good country-folk of Minnesota a bad name, as rural areas still retain a few pockets of common sense–a non-commodity virtually unknown in the rat-race reality of contemporary sub-urbia. “Sub-Urbia” denotes something not quite urban, but definitively not rural.

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