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As American economic power continues to decline, a division has emerged within the U.S. political establishment as to which of its designated adversaries is to blame for the country’s woes — Russia, or China. The dispute came to a head during each of the last two presidential elections, with the Democratic Party first blaming Moscow for Hillary Clinton’s shocking defeat in 2016 over unproven “election meddling” by the Kremlin. After Joe Biden’s equally controversial victory over Donald Trump this past November, the GOP has retaliated by portraying the 46th president as “soft on China” just as their counterparts drew critical attention to Trump’s alleged ties to Russia — even though both men have taken tough stances toward each respective country. As a result of this neo-McCarthyist political atmosphere, détente has been criminalized. In order to understand what is driving this interwar between factions of the Anglo-American elite amid the rise of China and Russia on the world stage, a revisiting of the history of relations between the three nations is necessary.

From the first millennia until the 19th century, China was one of the world’s foremost economic powers. Today, the People’s Republic has largely recaptured that position and by the end of the decade is expected to overtake the U.S. as the world’s largest economy, a gain that may be expedited by the post-pandemic U.S. recession compared with China’s rapid recovery. Unfortunately, the Western attitude toward China remains stuck in the ‘century of humiliation’ where from the mid-19th century until the Chinese Revolution in 1949, it was successively raped and plundered by the Western, Japanese, and Russian imperial powers. The reason the English-speaking world clings to this backwards view is because apart from that centennial period, the West has always been second place to China as the world’s most distinguished country providing the global standard in infrastructure, technology, governance, agriculture, and economic development. Even at the peak of the Roman Empire, the Han dynasty where the ancient Silk Road began was vastly larger in territory and population.

For two consecutive years in the early 1930s, the best-selling fiction book in the U.S. was Pearl S. Buck’s The Good Earth which depicted the extreme poverty and famine of rural peasant life in pre-revolutionary China. In many respects, the picture of China in the Western mind remains a composite impression from Buck’s Nobel Prize-winning novel. The former Chinese Empire underwent its ‘hundred years of humiliation’ after suffering a series of military defeats in the Opium Wars which funded Western industrialization, where the ceding of territories and war reparations in unequal treaties left China subjugated as the “sick man of Asia.” Like Russia which lagged behind Europe after the Industrial Revolution until the Soviet centralized plans of the 1930s, China was able to transform its primarily agricultural economy into an industrial giant after its communist revolution in 1949. However, it was only a short time until the Sino-Soviet split in 1961 when China began to forge its own path in one of the most widely misunderstood geopolitical developments of the Cold War.

In 1956, Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev gave what is commonly known as his “Secret Speech” to the 20th Congress of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, a report entitled “On the Cult of Personality and Its Consequences”, where the Ukrainian-born politician denounced the excesses of his deceased predecessor, Joseph Stalin. The news of the shocking address to the Politburo did not just further polarize an international communist movement already divided between Trotskyists and the Comintern but had geopolitical consequences beyond its intended purpose of accommodating Washington to deescalate the arms race. At first, China took a relatively neutral stance toward the Soviet reforms during its Hundred Flowers Campaign, even as Mao encouraged the USSR to put down the 1956 counter-revolution in Hungary.

The real turning point in Sino-Soviet relations came when the bureaucratic placation of the Khrushchev Thaw began to discourage movements in the developing world living under Western-backed dictatorships from taking up arms in revolutionary struggle. With the support of Enver Hoxha and Albania, China began to fiercely criticize de-Stalinization and accused the Soviet Union of “revisionism” for prioritizing world peace and preventing a nuclear war over support for national liberation movements, becoming the de facto leader of ‘Third Worldism’ against Western imperialism. Moscow reciprocated by freezing aid to China which greatly damaged its economy and relations soured between the world’s two biggest socialist countries, transforming the the Cold War into a tri-polar conflict already multifaceted with the Non-Aligned Movement led by Yugoslavia after Josep Broz Tito’s falling out with Stalin.

As the PRC continued to break from what Mao viewed as the USSR’s deviation from Marxism-Leninism, China went down the primrose path of the Cultural Revolution during the 1960s amid the rise of the Gang of Four faction who took the anti-Soviet policies a step further by condemning the USSR as “social imperialist” and an even greater threat than the West. This led to several huge missteps in foreign policy and a complete betrayal of internationalism, as China aligned with the U.S. in support of UNITA against the MPLA in the Angolan civil war, the CIA-backed Khmer Rouge genocidaires in Cambodia against Vietnam, and the fascist Augusto Pinochet regime in Chile. After years of international isolation, U.S. President Richard Nixon and his war criminal Secretary of State Henry Kissinger were received as guests in 1972. Despite the initial reasons for the Sino-Soviet split, it was ironically the Soviet Union which ended up carrying the mantle of national liberation as the USSR backed numerous socialist revolutions in the global south while China sided with imperialism.

In hindsight, the Cold War’s conclusion with the demise of the USSR was arguably an inevitable result of the Sino-Soviet split. Ultimately, mistakes were made by both sides that are recognized by the two countries today, as can be seen in the Communist Party of the Russian Federation’s negative historical view of Khrushchev and the denunciation of the Cultural Revolution and Gang of Four by the CPC (not “CCP”). In fact, China has since even apologized to Angola for its support of Jonas Savimbi. Nevertheless, the break in political relations with Moscow also set the process in motion for China to develop its own interpretation of Marxism-Leninism that diverged from the Soviet model and eventually allowed a level of private enterprise which never occurred under the USSR, including during the short-lived New Economic Policy of the 1920s. If truth be told, this may have been the very thing which prevented China from meeting the same fate.

Starting in 1978, China began opening its economy to domestic private enterprise and even foreign capital, but with the ruling party and government retaining final authority over both the private and public sectors. The result of implementing market-oriented reforms while maintaining mostly state ownership of industry was the economic marvel we see today, where China has since become the ‘world’s factory’ and global manufacturing powerhouse. For four decades, China’s real gross domestic product growth has averaged nearly ten percent every year and almost a billion people have been lifted out of poverty, but with capital never rising above the political authority of the CPC. Unfortunately, the success of Deng Xiaoping’s reform of the Chinese socialist system was not replicated by perestroika (“restructuring”) in the USSR under the leadership of Mikhail Gorbachev who completely failed to revive the Soviet economy and eventually oversaw its dissolution in 1991.

During the 1990s, Russia underwent total collapse as its formerly planned enterprises were dismantled by the same neoliberal policies to which Margaret Thatcher once phrased “there is no alternative” (TINA). The restoration of capitalism sharply increased poverty and unemployment while mortality fell by an entire decade under IMF-imposed ‘shock therapy’ which created an obscenely wealthy new class of Russian “oligarchs” overnight. So much so, the fortunes of the Semibankarschina (“seven bankers”) were compared to the boyars of tsarist nobility in previous centuries. This comprador elite also controlled most of the country’s media while funding the election campaigns of pro-Western President Boris Yeltsin who transformed the previously centralized economy into a free market system. That was until his notorious successor assumed power and brought the energy sector back under control of the Russian state which restored wages, reduced poverty, and expelled corrupt foreign investors like Bill Browder. Needless to say, the U.S. was not pleased by Vladimir Putin’s successful revival of the Russian economy because the U.S. already faced a geopolitical contender in China.

As China has been the world’s ascending economic superpower through its unique mixture of private and state-owned enterprises, the U.S. economy has shrunk as trade liberalization and globalization de-industrialized the Rust Belt. Simultaneously, the expense of the military budget has grown so gargantuan that it can’t be audited while rash imperialist wars in the Middle East following 9/11 marked the beginning of the end for American hegemony. In 2016, Donald Trump rose to power railing against the political establishment over its “endless wars” and anti-worker free trade deals, abandoning the proposed Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) on his first day in office and imposing protectionist tariffs which kickstarted a U.S.-China trade war. Unfortunately, any efforts to return U.S. productive power outsourced to China by multinationals and scale back American empire-building were destined to fail.

Trump was also politically persecuted by the Democrats and the intelligence community for daring to embrace détente with Moscow as a candidate and spent his entire administration trying to appease the deep state in Washington with little result. Oddly enough, it was reportedly none other than Henry Kissinger who encouraged Trump to ease the strained relations with Russia as a strategy to contain China, the traditional enemy he once convinced Richard Nixon to make steps toward peace with. The GOP, representing the interests of the military-industrial complex, has reciprocated the anti-Russia hysteria by accusing incumbent Joe Biden of being weak on China, even though the previous Obama-Biden administration presided over an unprecedented military buildup in the Pacific as part of the U.S. “pivot to Asia.” The views of constituents from both parties also seem to fall on partisan lines, as indicated in a recent Gallup poll where only 16% of Democrats held a positive view of Russia and a mere 10% of Republicans regard China favorably.

The rise of Russia and China on the global stage presents such a threat to Washington’s full spectrum dominance that the head of U.S. Strategic Command, Admiral Charles Richard, recently warned of the very real possibility of a nuclear war in the future with both countries. Under the administration of Xi Jinping, China has reshaped the geopolitical order with its ambitious Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) infrastructure project, also known as the New Silk Road. At the same time, Russia has reintegrated several of the former Soviet republics with the formation of the Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU). Conceivably, the return of Russia to world politics has the potential to transform the sphere of competition between the U.S. and China into a multipolar plane where the balance of power can shift toward a more stable geopolitical landscape in the long run. Nevertheless, the challenge made by the Xi-Putin partnership to the dominion of Western capital is the basis for the bellicosity toward Eurasia by the U.S., as is their joining forces to repair the Sino-Russian political relations broken decades ago.

When the Soviet Union dissolved, the tentative US–China alliance effectively ended and Sino-Russian rapprochement began. But what prevented the PRC from going the same route as the Eastern Bloc? Why did Deng succeed and Gorbachev fail? After all, the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests were concurrent with the numerous ‘Color Revolutions’ behind the Iron Curtain, even though the Western narrative about the June Fourth Incident omits that among the “pro-democracy” demonstrators were many Maoists who considered Deng’s market reforms a betrayal of Chinese socialism. As it happens, Xi Jinping himself correctly identified one of the main reasons why the USSR dissolved in a 2013 speech:

“Why did the Soviet Union disintegrate? Why did the Soviet Communist Party fall from power? An important reason was that the struggle in the field of ideology was extremely intense, completely negating the history of the Soviet Union, negating the history of the Soviet Communist Party, negating Lenin, negating Stalin, creating historical nihilism and confused thinking. Party organs at all levels had lost their functions, the military was no longer under Party leadership. In the end, the Soviet Communist Party, a great party, was scattered, the Soviet Union, a great socialist country, disintegrated. This is a cautionary tale!”

Xi is correct in that China, unlike the Soviet Union, never made the crucial error of playing into the hands of the West through the condemnation of its own history as Khrushchev did in his “Secret Speech.” Despite the fact that the report by the Soviet leader contained demonstrable falsehoods such as the absurd claim that Stalin, one of Russia’s most formidable bank robbers as a revolutionary, was a coward deathly afraid of the Nazi invasion as it neared Moscow during WWII, the self-serving speech split the international communist movement and laid the internal groundwork for the USSR’s eventual downfall. As for the economic reasons for the different outcomes, the late Marxist historian Domenico Losurdo explained:

“If we analyse the first 15 years of Soviet Russia, we see three social experiments. The first experiment, based on the equal distribution of poverty, suggests the “universal asceticism” and “rough egalitarianism” criticised by the Communist Manifesto. We can now understand the decision to move to Lenin’s New Economic Policy, which was often interpreted as a return to capitalism. The increasing threat of war pushed Stalin into sweeping economic collectivisation. The third experiment produced a very advanced welfare state but ended in failure: in the last years of the Soviet Union, it was characterised by mass absenteeism and disengagement in the workplace; this stalled productivity, and it became hard to find any application of the principle that Marx said should preside over socialism — remuneration according to the quantity and quality of work delivered. The history of China is different: Mao believed that, unlike “political capital,” the economic capital of the bourgeoisie should not be subject to total expropriation, at least until it can serve the development of the national economy. After the tragedy of the Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution, it took Deng Xiaoping to emphasise that socialism implies the development of the productive forces. Chinese market socialism has achieved extraordinary success.”

Since China’s economic upswing has been simultaneous with the downturn of American capitalism, it has left the U.S. with only one option but to equate the PRC with its own crumbling system. Sadly, in most instances it is the Eurocentric pseudo-left which has parroted the propaganda of Western think tanks that China is “state capitalist” and even “imperialist.” This also means that its unparalleled economic gains must therefore be a result of capitalism, not state planning, which is another fabrication. Has there ever been a clearer case of neocolonial projection than the baseless accusation of “debt-trap diplomacy” hurled at China’s BRI by the West? It is true that China seeks to profit in the global south, but based on terms of mutual benefit for developing nations previously plundered by Western financial institutions which actually impose debt slavery on low income countries. In reality, Beijing is only guilty of offering a preferable win-win alternative to states exploited under the yoke of imperialism. Once upon a time, the U.S. itself envisioned a peaceful world of mutual cooperation and trade under Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s Good Neighbor Policy, a forgotten legacy that Xi’s BRI is fulfilling.

None of this is to say China is undeserving of any criticism. To the contrary, its paradoxes are as deep as its achievements and it would be naive to think that Chinese capital, if left unchecked, doesn’t have the potential to be as predatory as the Western variety. Free enterprise is so inherently unstable that its destructive nature will be impossible to contain forever even by a party like the CPC and must be disassembled eventually. Without the retention of a large state sector maintaining vital infrastructure and public services, the market relations in China would wreak havoc as it did in post-Soviet Russia. Not to mention, the biggest progress made by the PRC was in the years prior to the pro-market reforms and ultimately served as the foundation upon which “socialism with Chinese characteristics” is able to thrive. The lesson of the fall of the USSR is that even a society capable of the most incredible human advancements is not invincible to a market environment. The Soviet Union withstood an invasion by more than a dozen Allied nations during the Russian Civil War and an onslaught by the Nazi war machine in WWII, but succumbed to perestroika. While Russia may be under the free market, both nations are a threat to Western capital because they represent a new win-win cooperative model in international relations and an end to American unipolarity.

Max Parry is an independent journalist and geopolitical analyst. His writing has appeared widely in alternative media. Max may be reached at maxrparry@live.com

 
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  1. GeeBee says:

    …which created an obscenely wealthy new class of Russian “oligarchs” overnight.

    ‘which created an obscenely wealthy new class of “Russian” oligarchs overnight.

    There, FIFY

  2. anonymous[605] • Disclaimer says:

    The Israel lobby doesn’t seem to recognize it is not going to get the war it wants with Iran if so much military capacity is used up to take on both Russia and China at the same time. Parts of the military might even be using the China threat specifically as an excuse to run away from the Middle East. The Marine Corps is getting rid of all of its tanks under the pretext that this makes them nimble enough to fight in the Pacific. But it also makes it impossible for the Marines to lead an invasion in the Middle East like it did in Iraq in 2003. This angle seems to have completely escaped the attention of the Israel lobby.

    • Agree: Jim Christian
    • LOL: Neoconned
  3. GeeBee says:

    the propaganda of Western think tanks that China is “state capitalist” and even “imperialist.” This also means that its unparalleled economic gains must therefore be a result of capitalism, not state planning, which is another fabrication.

    China, in accordance with Marx’ strictures, is very much “state capitalist”. It is important to differentiate, however, between the two opposing types of capitalism. China incorporates ‘Industrial Capitalism’, the same economic model as was operated in Italy under Mussolini and Germany under Hitler, systems in which the state issues sovereign debt. I fear that when the writer talks of ‘capitalism’ he makes the same mistake as the vast majority of pundits, in believing that all capitalism is of a piece with the contemporary American and European model, which is to say Finance Capitalism. The two are deadly enemies – which of course is the entirety of the ‘Allies’ determination to do away with ‘the Axis powers’ in the 1930s and ’40s.

    Both Oswald Spengler and Karl Marx recognised where capitalism was leading. The essential difference is that Marx welcomed it as part of a historical progression, whereas Spengler and the ‘Revolutionary Conservatives’ in Germany regarded it as a symptom of historical decline. In his The Decline of the West, Spengler wrote:

    If we call these money-powers “Capitalism,” then we may designate as Socialism the will to call into life a mighty politico-economic order that transcends all class interests, a system of lofty thoughtfulness and duty-sense that keeps the whole in fine condition for the decisive battle of its history, and this battle is also the battle of money and law. The private powers of the economy want free paths for their acquisition of great resources.

    Once upon a time, the U.S. itself envisioned a peaceful world of mutual cooperation and trade under Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s Good Neighbor Policy,

    Never was the employment of the first four words of that sentence made in a more apposite context!

    • Agree: frankie p
    • Replies: @follyofwar
  4. Max Parry says:
    @GeeBee

    Wait, so “da joos” were not only behind the Soviet Union but also its downfall? Make up your minds.

  5. America is internally divided and the house cannot stand, let alone take on external adversaries.

    The Stolen Election Deep State Coup of 2020, mass censorship and surveillance, unaccountable oligarchs deciding to rewrite the Constitution, the Great Replacement, stratospheric debt, woke politics dividing the polity, crumbling infrastructure and an uncertain dollar….

    The sick man of the West has a fine suit of armor, but he’s like Biden underneath.

  6. GeeBee says:
    @Max Parry

    It’s not a matter of making up one’s mind, but rather one of stark facts. We have no less an authority than Vladimir Putin (among many other sources) informing us that 80 – 85% of the Bolshevik and subsequently, the Soviet leadership were Jewish, and I should be most grateful if you can name more than a couple of the wealthiest so-called ‘Russian oligarchs’ who were gentiles.

    • Agree: Bill Jones
    • Replies: @the grand wazoo
    , @Getaclue
  7. Daniel H says:

    Today, the People’s Republic has largely recaptured that position and by the end of the decade is expected to overtake the U.S. as the world’s largest economy,

    I believe that the Chinese economy is already larger than the US economy, 1.3 times the size of ours (Google around). By the year 2030, if present trends continue, China’s economy will be twice the size of ours and by 2040 (the year I plan to slip under the earth) China will be three times the size of ours, that is if present trends continue, which they may well do.

    When China’s economy is twice the size of ours the idea of cold war competition is absurd. When China’s economy is three times the size America can be nothing more than a vassal to China, and you know what, so what? We ought to think smaller, think local. We have so many problems here (of our own doing) that domestic matters should consume all attention.

  8. xyzxy says:

    Two points:

    After years of international isolation, U.S. President Richard Nixon and his war criminal Secretary of State Henry Kissinger…

    First, if Kissinger is a ‘war criminal’ then pretty much all top tier US politicians/officials since Lincoln have to be included in that category.

    …the denunciation of the Cultural Revolution and Gang of Four by the CPC (not “CCP”).

    Second, the difference between the usage CCP and CPC is convention and not linguistic. In any case, transliteration of a tonal logographic language such as Chinese is never going to be exact. In this instance we represent in English the characters 中国共产党 which, when parsed in order and spoken, translate to Chinese Communist Party. So CCP is probably more correct linguistically, although it appears that officially (for reasons I don’t understand) the Party prefers CPC.

  9. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:

    “never made the crucial error of playing into the hands of the West through the condemnation
    USA enters like a saint and comes out like a snake. Still people will forget for a few pieces of silver. Had Pakistan ever think that this was same USA that caused coups in Syria, Iran and violently brought Saddam ? Why did China forget USA’s role in Guatemala entire Latic America and in Congo ? It ended up believing the Afghan narrative dished by USA. Today we have some new element . Countries dont trust the BS America says about Uighur . This is progress. But India with its moneyed men in USA control Indian domestics affairs and its foreign policies We see Indian tendency to swallow American logic and book on nay thing anywhere in the world India will pay .

    America is system that has not and cant change .This system is as old as the British imperium -only from a distance .
    For 200 years world believed everything Britain told about its honorable humane progressive agenda and everything it said about the third world countries -one third world will accept the ugly innuendo uttered by Britain against another 3 rd world . Now USA does .It says bad things about Iran and Iraq to each other and about Pakistan and India to each other .Their degenerate elite step up to the soiled plate to carry it to the entrails of the nation.

    • Agree: Badger Down
  10. @Daniel H

    Daniel H., On macroeconomics and relative GDP, etc, it all depends on the scale used for measuring. It seems to me that the currencies (U$D, RMB) are such blatantly manipulated constructs that neither provides any sort of durable information about value, so it is impossible to say which economy is “bigger” or even if that matters.

    I am no China expert. Not a US expert either. My humble observation about both places is that almost all the information published about them is shaded, gamed, slanted….propaganda of one sort or another. Are there tens of millions of apartments i Chinese cities (hastily, shoddily built) erected but unoccupied and unlikely to BE occupied anytime soon? Maybe. Are there at least 100 million Americans who would have been counted as unemployed 40 years ago out of the workforce? Probably.

    Have US armed forces prevailed any place in the last 35 years? No. not really. Are the Chinese Armed Forces poised to invade and occupy Taiwan? Not likely.

    What to believe? Probably not much of the news about either place, except what you can ascertain yourself.

    • Agree: HdC, Alden
  11. @xyzxy

    I suspect that the Party prefers CPC because the Party is, originally, international.

    Its manifestation in China is, therefore, ‘of China’.

  12. Great analysis. Two quibbles:

    1.

    the break in political relations with Moscow also set the process in motion for China to develop its own interpretation of Marxism-Leninism that diverged from the Soviet model and eventually allowed a level of private enterprise which never occurred under the USSR.

    Mao was an ardent champion of managed capitalism. In 1949, he wrote President Roosevelt, “China must industrialize. This can only be done by free enterprise. Chinese and American interests fit together, economically and politically. America need not fear that we will not be co-operative. We cannot risk any conflict”. He repeated the invitation to Presidents Truman and Eisenhower but they, too ignored his pleas. MAO ASKED TO SEE ROOSEVELT IN 1945 – The New York …www.nytimes.com › 1972/09/21 › archives › mao-asked-t…

    2.

    the “pro-democracy” demonstrators were many Maoists who considered Deng’s market reforms a betrayal of Chinese socialism.

    There were many such staunch socialists, of course, but most were angered by more practical considerations: Deng’s bungling. The economy was tanking, the iron rice bowl was broken, inflation was 32%, university scholarships cancelled… Like us, ordinary Chinese are not deeply idealistic. Like us, most crave competent government.

  13. Cope article and comment section. Average Chinaman lives on less than $10 a day; China’s GDP per capita ($10,261) is a few hundred dollars more than Mexico’s ($9,946). USA $65,297 — China’s got a loooooooong way to go.

  14. Communism, being based on Marxism, is an inherently self-defeating ideology, as it is purely materialistic.

    It devolves into idol-worship, such as the personality cults of Marx, Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin, Mao, which cannot long sustain a stable state. That’s the main reason the Soviet Union broke down.

    The CPC might survive somewhat longer, because China underpins it with 5000 years of history and a constructed national identity, and tries to imbue it with ancient chinese wisdom – although to what extent this is sincere, or actually done with genuine understanding of these ancient philosophies is less clear.

    It “helps” to have a booming economy, courtesy of more-or-less slave labour, and a controlled press, too – but it will not sustain it indefintely.

    I’ve read that 300 million chinese have left the CPC as a protest inspired by the Falun Gong movement, which, if true, does not bode well for the country’s internal stability in the medium term. (https://www.henrymakow.com/2021/03/Falun-Gong-Pioneer-Resistance-to-Communist-Tyranny.html)

    However, if they understand The Tao, then they might do well:

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    “Existence is beyond the power of words
    To define:
    Terms may be used
    But are none of them absolute.
    In the beginning of heaven and earth there were no words,
    Words came out of the womb of matter;
    And whether a man dispassionately
    Sees to the core of life
    Or passionately
    Sees the surface,
    The core and the surface
    Are essentially the same,
    Words making them seem different
    Only to express appearance.
    If name be needed, wonder names them both:
    From wonder into wonder
    Existence opens.”

    (Verse 1 – Witter Bynner translation.)

    There seems to be some of it in the Gaokao – the gruelling entrance test to their universities:

    http://www.thatsmags.com/shanghai/post/19325/30-absolutely-insane-questions-from-china-s-gaokao-exam

    Which also gives the impression that the academic level must be quite high.

    I guess we shall see.

    • Disagree: GomezAdddams
    • Replies: @Lin
    , @bayviking
  15. Anonymous[238] • Disclaimer says:
    @Daniel H

    When China’s economy is twice the size of ours the idea of cold war competition is absurd. When China’s economy is three times the size America can be nothing more than a vassal to China, and you know what, so what? We ought to think smaller, think local. We have so many problems here (of our own doing) that domestic matters should consume all attention.

    This is true, but the US has many vassals and alliances and has been shoring them up. Like the “Quad” in the Indo-Pacific comprised of the US, Japan, India, and Australia. The UK and Europe via NATO still follow the US on geopolitical matters.

    So if you add up the US alliance and compare it to China, things look quite different.

    Also, Russia is a wildcard. As China grows, it’s conceivable, likely even, that Russia would turn to the US to balance off China. Moreover, Putin is getting on in years, and a post-Putin Russia could be more pro-US.

    At any rate, it seems like a major military conflict with China is likely over the next decade to try to arrest China’s growth.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @lysias
    , @Alfred
  16. @anonymous

    Will that be their biggest concern? Especially when “Be all you can be in the Army” takes on a whole new dimension in today’s woke military.

    I suspect that at least half of the Pentagon’s budget in the near future will be paying for gender reassignment surgery and hormone therapies.

    • Replies: @Rev. Spooner
    , @Neoconned
  17. @Max Parry

    ‘Wait, so “da joos” were not only behind the Soviet Union but also its downfall? Make up your minds.’

    Both are perfectly possible. Jews have a compulsively subversive streak. Witness contemporary America.

    • Agree: Z-man, Arthur MacBride
  18. Max Parry says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    Thanks, that means a great deal coming from you.

    1. That’s fair, and I actually wasn’t fully aware he held such views so early on prior to the Revolution. It’s actually the reason why I included the Losurdo quote later in the piece which explains Mao’s position that the economy would have to be developed under a market system presided over by the state, but I thought this conclusion came later.

    2. Have you read “Tiananmen Moon: Inside the Chinese Student Uprising of 1989”? If so, what is your take? If not I recommend it.

    • Replies: @Godfree Roberts
  19. @Max Parry

    Poor old Mao! Deng wanted to outshine him (as if!) and the West wanted to discredit him.

    I haven’t read Philip Cunningham’s book, but I spend a year investigating Tiananmen, including talking to witnesses. This is what I found: https://www.herecomeschina.com/wp-admin/post.php?post=8372&action=edit

    • Replies: @mikael_
  20. TG says:

    “the West has always been second place to China as the world’s most distinguished country providing the global standard in infrastructure, technology, governance, agriculture, and economic development. Even at the peak of the Roman Empire, the Han dynasty where the ancient Silk Road began was vastly larger in territory and population.”

    WRONG WRONG WRONG.

    A massive population of near-starving peasants may indeed have a nominally large economy, but so what? A million peasants starving in the mud, a billion, what does it matter? The ability to project power or innovate or invest in new developments of much of classical China was trivial, despite the massive population and nominal large economy, because almost all of the economic output was dedicated to keeping people barely alive at miserable subsistence poverty.

    Look at the United States, in the 1940’s, had much less population than China, nominally not that much bigger an overall economy – but so much slack above subsistence that if 1940’s US had fought the China of the era, not even close. Some of our bigger cities could have conquered the China of that era.

    Modern India has about 1.4 billion people – and chromic malnutrition is widespread and the standard of living is inferior to late medieval Europe. The overall size of the economy of modern India is indeed massive, but so what? Compared to countries where people don’t breed like rodents – think modern China, or Russia – India is pathetically weak.

    It’s not just how big the economy is, or how many people there are. How much surplus does an economy produce beyond day-to-day subsistence?

    • Agree: ThreeCranes, HdC
    • Replies: @lysias
  21. The current American strategy is mass propaganda about a Chinese threat. The Pentagon just got a $27 billion slush fund for this year alone to build up in Asia against China. However, Taiwan, South Korea, Japan, and the Philippines already know who has won and refuse to play this game by refusing new American military bases. The only sucker is Australia, whose citizens once again face the prospect of war to support a crazed empire.

    • Agree: Godfree Roberts
    • Thanks: denk
    • Replies: @Stebbing Heuer
  22. Anon[206] • Disclaimer says:

    China did not fall like the Soviet Union because it didn’t have a group of fifth columnists destroying it from within. Boris Yeltsin the drunk pretty much allowed the international Jews to come in and looted Russia blind by buying up land rich in natural resources on the dirt cheap. Many of them were Russian Jews with international backing from the moneyed Jews in Israel, US and Western Europe. Most Russian oligarchs are of Jewish origin, including Roman Abramovich.

    No surprise it is now the neocon Jews who are the most ardent haters of China, because China wouldn’t let them get control of their banks and stock market. But worryingly, Xi recently allowed foreign banks to open in China and foreign firms to buy A shares in China’s corporations, caving in after years of prodding from the Rothschild propaganda machine, The Economist. Wall Street is moving in quickly. Jews will take over that country eventually and turn it into another banana republic like the US.

  23. Ragno says:

    Trump was also politically persecuted by the Democrats and the intelligence community for daring to embrace détente with Moscow as a candidate and spent his entire administration trying to appease the deep state in Washington with little result. Oddly enough, it was reportedly none other than Henry Kissinger who encouraged Trump to ease the strained relations with Russia as a strategy to contain China, the traditional enemy he once convinced Richard Nixon to make steps toward peace with.

    This was so flipping obvious I couldn’t believe that no one – including scribes on the (cough) “Right” – ever brought it up or even mentioned it in passing. Once the Russia Hoax was on, everyone was suddenly terrified to be seen rising to the bait.

    I must have worn my typing finger to a frazzle writing letters and e-mails to publications (legacy or otherwise) to absolutely zero avail. Apparently this was a line of reasoning not even worthy of public dismissal or simple contempt.

    It wasn’t until Year 3 of Trump before it started to dawn on me: it was all just a game, a way for policy wonks and think-tank eggheads to play the equivalent of D&D or Madden Football. That’s when I further realized that the disgraceful truth will never be spoken aloud, let alone carved on America’s headstone: that nobody really believed that the national-collapse game of musical chairs would stop dead on their watch, so – as long as the next guy got stuck with the terrible Day of Reckoning (while they got to milk the very last dollar out of the donor class)…. who really gives a shit? As it turns out, nobody; except the non-politician/non-journalist/non-tenured academic class, on whom the entire house of cards would land like a thousand tons of bricks.

    In other words: us.

    • Agree: mikael_, Godfree Roberts, Rdm
  24. Lin says:
    @Thomas Faber

    The CPC might survive somewhat longer, because China underpins it with 5000 years of history and a constructed national identity, and tries to imbue it with ancient chinese wisdom – although to what extent this is sincere, or actually done with genuine understanding of these ancient philosophies is less clear.

    Trying to apply such ‘models’ on china is not inappropriate: A few points:
    –Chinese are quite secular; with the exception of muslims, the average ‘religious chinese’ didn’t inherit their religion from their parents.
    –The average Chinese have very strong sense of historiographic lineage, eg, the Chinese hi-school students can read 2000 yrs old test, albeit slowly but without unnecessary nostalgia. Calling Chinese identity a ‘construct’ is silly
    –Confucism has its plus and minus; the minus had been thoroughly denounced since 1919 during the ‘May4th movement’ (The cultural revolution is its final phase) and confucist morality was tagged ‘cannibalism’ by Lu Xun, the most important Chinese leftist writer . All the Chinese early leftists were ‘May4th’ followers. A similar metaphor would be like arabs en mass denounce Muhamed as a fraud. Yes, Confucius was denounced excessively; but it shows Chinese are very capable of retrospective self-appraisal. Ron Unz once said China is the product of ‘social Darwinism’; I would elaborate: Since 1949, china has been for most of the time under the threat of at least one superpower. China is a successful geopolitical Darwinist survivor. China right now is under severe US technology embargo/sanction, so China greatly increase R&D spendings on items like micro-electronic fabrication, photolithographic machines.
    Chinese realise a new civilizational page is being written.

    I’ve read that 300 million chinese have left the CPC as a protest inspired by the Falun Gong movement

    That’s non-sense, the CCP membership numbers about 90 millions

    • Replies: @Lin
    , @Thomas Faber
  25. Lin says:
    @Lin

    typo

    Trying to apply such ‘models’ on china is not inappropriate

    should be

    Trying to apply such ‘models’ on china is inappropriate

  26. @xyzxy

    US transliteration of the ston0-logigraphic language English was never going to be exact. In fact the USers have made a complete hash of it. We represent in English the characters USA, which, when parsed in order and spoken, translate to American United States. So AUS is probably more correct linguistically, although it appears that officially (because AUS looks so antisemitic) the Party prefers USofA, or not.

  27. denk says:

    gringos please help us

    Same script, Ukraine, HK, Myanmar…
    Burmese Protesters Urge US Intervention

    • Replies: @Tsigantes
  28. @Anon

    I was not aware that Xi and the CCP had allowed Jewish Banking Destoyers into China. What absolute morons. So much for the brilliance of East Asians.

    I give them 50 years before they completely control China and then start to destroy it.

  29. This author does not spout idiocy and buffoonery as standard operating procedure.

    In his last piece he attacked and denied the very much not verified corporate financing and supplying of the Bolsheviks and the USSR. He didn’t even actually read the book by Sutton, he just knew it was wrong and those ridiculous facts were not really facts at all. I am glad he made us all aware. He assembled words together in what can be described at best as not incoherent gibberish to make a very not typical leftist argument, which does not include little to no truth and top tier mental gymnastics regarding actual facts and reality.

    This piece is interesting, as usual he does not ignore the Talmudics, and then he says:

    “Sadly, in most instances it is the Eurocentric pseudo-left which has parroted the propaganda of Western think tanks that China is “state capitalist” and even “imperialist.” This also means that its unparalleled economic gains must therefore be a result of capitalism, not state planning, which is another fabrication. Has there ever been a clearer case of neocolonial projection than the baseless accusation of “debt-trap diplomacy” hurled at China’s BRI by the West? It is true that China seeks to profit in the global south, but based on terms of mutual benefit for developing nations previously plundered by Western financial institutions which actually impose debt slavery on low income countries. In reality, Beijing is only guilty of offering a preferable win-win alternative to states exploited under the yoke of imperialism.”

    Right, of course, China is not state-capitalist and is really proper Marxist-Leninist-Maoist political economy in action, how could we have not realized that. Also, how could we have missed China seeking “mutual benefit” in Africa? I mean it should have been obvious it was “win-win?” Thank you for clearing all that confusion up.

    The author and his tribesmen are just about done squeezing everything out of America and have moved on to China—they hope to recreate the same circumstances. Wonderful.

    Such masterful Talmudic sophistry! Bravo!

    • Agree: silviosilver, HeebHunter
    • Replies: @silviosilver
  30. kauchai says:
    @xyzxy

    The chinese term “中国” refers specifically to “China” as a country. The word “国” itself corresponds strictly to the english word “country” – there is no ambiguity here.

    Whereas ” 中华 (simplified) or 中華 (traditional)” simply means “anything relating to being chinese in every sense”

    So it would not be correct to paint the CPC as CCP because in chinese it would be translated as ” 中华共产党”. This is linguistically and more importantly “politically incorrect” in the eyes of the CPC as the party is inextricably tied to the country.

    • Replies: @xyzxy
    , @Badger Down
  31. SafeNow says:

    “We have so many problems here (of our own doing) that domestic matters should consume all attention.”

    To reinforce this, it is possible to be quantitative as to the nature and magnitude of these. As I have posted before, the U.S. ranks right around number 25 to number 30 in just about everything. (Most recently, the Democracy Index of The Economist, and the tracing of Covid variants.) A different commenter wrote that the U.S. has “a fine suit of armor.” Quantitatively, the armor is not really that fine.

    Of course China is not a military threat. China has signaled this by playing at bumper-boats in the Western Pacific. Creating a “presence” by using gigantic “Coast Guard guard cutters” suitable for ramming and for “shouldering” with their flat sides. These are not warships; the worst-case scenario is the exchange of small-arms fire.

    • Replies: @ConqueringFools
  32. The United States is a continental superpower. It is protected by oceans on both sides and has weak militaries to its north and south. The Mississippi river may have the most navigable waters of any river on earth. The US creates a surplus of food and energy.

    It has approximately 6,200 nuclear weapons with an astounding amount of military hardware.

    The US has approximately $120 trillion in net assets (after excluding debt).

    The most world class, cutting edge centers for science and technology are in the US.

    Meanwhile, China is abutted by Russia to the north with its thousands of nuclear weapons and serious military power. To the east by Japan (which colonized parts of China not long ago), India and Pakistan (another nuclear power) to its west.

    History means something and tells us about the nature of the Chinese population (due to genetics and culture). China has never even attacked India in the last 3,000 years.

    Look guys, I get it, it’s a fun revenge fantasy, but this is la-la land stuff. America will be the most powerful country on earth in the year 2,100.

    • LOL: Realist
  33. @Max Parry

    Stop talking about ‘da joos’ as just the people, and start considering the ideology. Here:

    The souls of the nations of the world, however, emanate from the other, unclean kelipot, which contain no good whatsoever, as is written in Etz Chaim, Portal 49, ch. 3, that all the good that the nations do is done out of selfish motives.

    So the Gemara comments on the verse, “The kindness of the nations is sin”—that all the charity and kindness done by the nations of the world is only for their self-glorification….

    https://www.chabad.org/library/tanya/tanya_cdo/aid/7880/jewish/Chapter-1.htm

    When an ideology is suprematist to its core, the people become psychologically ill. After that, trying to discuss their actions becomes meaningless without considering their belief system.

    • Agree: Mefobills
    • Replies: @TheIdiot
  34. kauchai says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    ” Deng’s bungling. The economy was tanking, the iron rice bowl was broken, inflation was 32%, university scholarships cancelled… Like us, ordinary Chinese are not deeply idealistic. Like us, most crave competent government. ”

    I stand corrected. Here is my 1 cent worth of theory leading to the Tiananmen Incident.

    By the time Deng “handed over” the reigns of power to Hu Yaobang and Zhao Ziyang, he was ready to retire, playing only a guiding role behind the scenes. Deng could not have chosen a worst time to hand over power as Milton Friedman and his chicago boys were promoting the “free market” diktat which was so ardently pursued by Margaret Thatcher (with her TINA – There Is No Alternatives) and Ronald Reagan. Boris Yeltsin bought it lot, stock and barrel and committed the soviet union to hara-kiri. And so, I HIGHLY SUSPECTED did Hu Yaobang and Zhao Ziyang also.

    Just like Thatcher, Friedman’s advise was sought ardently by Zhao to further market reforms. In september 1988 on a conference trip to Shanghai, Friedman was unexpectedly invited to meet Zhao where he advocated strongly that china should de-controlled prices “in one bold stroke”. I guessed Zhao must had taken Friedman on his words. Overnight, costs of essential goods skyrocketed and various other public sector were designated to be “privatized”. Workers wages remained unchanged. Added to the already bubbling corruption created as a result of opening-up, simmering anger and discontent were swelling amongst the population.

    Into this, the CIA must had smelled blood, rubbing their hands in glee at the prospect of a color revolution. Through the HK and mainland triad gangs, implements and mechanics of massive riots and uprising were smuggled in through HK and Taiwan. University students were targeted as agent provocateurs to spark off the revolution. The rest is history.

    Epilogue:

    Deng certainly did bungled in the way he handed over power and being an old hand in government he should had the foresight to rein in the over exuberant Hu-Zhao duo in terms of bringing in western liberal market reforms. (Two cents worth: Introducing liberal market reforms “shotgun style” in a centrally planned economy where everything from having babies to burying loved ones were controlled and regimented was an invitation to BIG trouble – does one like old Deng need a noble prized economist to tell him so? Alarm bells should be ringing like crazy in his head the moment he knew of Milton Friedman!)

    Of course my comment is crafted in hindsight as most of us in that era do not have a ghost of an idea what Milton Friedman and his boys had in mind. The picture only became clear when the soviet union imploded. China was lucky in that the old revolutionaries still had a firm control over the reins of power.

    • Replies: @Godfree Roberts
  35. anonymous[125] • Disclaimer says:
    @Max Parry

    You got it, Bunky!

  36. Cutler says:

    I rather prefer the Union to break apart into more agreeable regions made up of like minded states as mentioned above a few times we have problems here of our own doing to solve.

  37. Petermx says:

    “Despite the fact that the report by the Soviet leader contained demonstrable falsehoods such as the absurd claim that Stalin, one of Russia’s most formidable bank robbers as a revolutionary, was a coward deathly afraid of the Nazi invasion as it neared Moscow during WWII”. I have never heard anyone call Stalin a coward but historian David Irving described Stalin as being very nervous (he may have used the word “breakdown”) as the German army steamrolled towards Moscow and he considered reaching out to Hitler to end the onslaught. Stalin then regained his composure and proclaimed a “patriotic war” which Irving said had great affect motivating the Bolsheviks. David Irving also said Churchill considered Hitler’s offer of peace to England (there were many) when Germany threw the French and British armies into the sea after those countries declared war on Germany but Churchill ultimately chose to fight on while trying to pull the US into the war, which ultimately happened. Irving also said that at some point during the war Hitler declared Stalin a great leader and on another occasion said he would permit Stalin to continue his “social experiments” far away from Europe. He planned on being much more generous than the “allies” who killed all Germany’s leaders and millions more who were not leaders after the war.

  38. Anonymous[125] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    “Putin is getting on in years, and a post-Putin Russia could be more pro-US.”

    Actually, Putin was quite pro-US in Obama’s first term, helping the ingrate out on several international fronts, including sanctions against Iran and brokering the destruction of Syria’s chemical weapons stores. But the trash talker from Chicago ward politics decided to punk the guy in Ukraine, and wherever else he could, instead of continuing normal relations. Every American move henceforth was another hatchet job build around false narratives, unsupported allegations and arrogant threats. Obama and Hillary systematically set about to destroy any positive relationship with Russia–to “isolate the country,” as they put it–and to rekindle the Cold War. Trump may have reversed that if the Deep State and its media minions had allowed him to function as president rather than spending four solid years of impeding or condemning his every thought, word or action in a four-year long smoldering soft coup.

    • Agree: follyofwar
  39. walrom says:

    A blatant lie. Apart from border conflicts, there were no wars between Russia and China in the 17th and 20th centuries.

  40. Juri says:

    China is not ever growing superpower. In the moment when world start to make their own stuff and quit buying everything from China, this will the end of Chinese power.

    • Replies: @Ukraine Tiger
  41. Firefinga says:
    @beavertales

    I garee, and I might add another unpleasent aspect to all of this: the declining USA infects other western nations with it’s venom like exporting “woke”-idiocy to many european nations, for instance. The rainbowflag-cult as well as BLM and anti-white-sentiments have firmly taken hold in places like Germany, where you have constant campaigns to “make AfroGermans visible” in media and politics (I kid you not).

  42. Ugetit says:
    @Max Parry

    Wait, so “da joos” were not only behind the Soviet Union but also its downfall?

    Are you prepared to argue that something similar did not happen to the Brit empire… and now the American one?

    What does one usually do with used tissue paper?

  43. Dumbo says:
    @Max Parry

    Why not? Big Jews are always where the money/power is. They can switch in an instant to the winning horse. Why do so many Jews such as Zuckerberg and Soros are marrying Chinese women? Could it be that they have their eyes set on that prize now?

    Also, I haven’t read the article, but people who says “da joos” tend to be silly. What’s wrong with admitting that rich or influential Jews play and probably have always played a large role on world events? It’s no secret, really, Marx, Freud, Trotsky, Rothschild, etc.

    Jeffrey Sachs, one of the architects of the “shock therapy”, was Jewish.

    • Agree: Robjil, Ugetit
    • Replies: @Rdm
  44. The West is confident it can neuter, control and vivisect Russia once Putin goes. Then it’s on to the Great Crusade, the ‘Clash of Civilizations’ war against the race enemy, China. The West, in particular the INTENSELY racist, genocidal, colonial settler regimes of the Five Eyes plus Israel, are driven by messianic delusions of Exceptionalism, that the White, Judeo-Christian, Western man is the unequalled summit of creation and evolution, and MUST rule over all, including ‘mere Asiatics’. The Chinese won’t surrender 5000 years of civilization or their dedication to freeing the non-Western world from Western thuggery, so war it must be. Solve all our problems that will.

  45. @GeeBee

    As the Jewish boyfriend of an author who had just told him that her researches showed that seven of the top eight oligarch looters were Jewish-‘Only seven? Who’s the other guy?’

  46. @Max Parry

    One group of Jews in 1917, another in 1991. They are not monolithic in ideology or psychology, after all.

    • Agree: Commentator Mike
  47. FvS says:
    @Daniel H

    China is definitely improving in leaps and bounds, but there are some important measures where they are still lagging behind quite a bit.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GNI_(nominal)_per_capita
    http://hdr.undp.org/en/countries

  48. FvS says:
    @Anon

    The Jews and Chinese are partners in crime and share a long history together. Even their “make a buck by any means” merchant culture is similar. China rose to power because of the trade policies espoused by Jewish economists in the U.S. Jews gave China the bomb. Israel sold U.S. military secrets to China. Coincidentally, Israel and China are both displacing the Muslim populations in their respective territories. The Israelis have the Palestinians, and the Chinese have the Uyghurs.

    https://nationalvanguard.org/2017/10/the-alliance-between-china-and-zionism/
    https://nationalvanguard.org/2020/05/why-does-china-admire-the-jews/
    https://nationalvanguard.org/2016/01/how-and-why-jews-gave-china-the-bomb/
    https://www.military.com/defensetech/2013/12/24/report-israel-passes-u-s-military-technology-to-china
    https://forward.com/schmooze/159051/a-jew-in-maos-china/
    http://storage.googleapis.com/wzukusers/user-20826443/documents/56e490ff216a92v4Iovf/Jews Created Communist China.pdf
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China-Israel_relations

  49. Levtraro says:
    @Daniel H

    By the year 2030, if present trends continue, China’s economy will be twice the size of ours and by 2040 …

    I think that China’s economic growth cannot continue at the same rate as present trends for long enough to double of triple USA’s economy. Economic growth, like biological and demographic growth, faces limits and restrictions. China’s growth rate has slowed considerably since the stellar ~11% in 2010 and has been slowing ever since. Also, the USA may recover quickly if their statepeople turn to care for their own instead of mostly supporting oligarchs and apparatchiks, the MIC, and Israel. American statepeople have shown before that when they have system competition they try to be nice to their own subjects (in spite of their inherent drive to exploit and propagandize them) leading to economic growth and innovation.

    • Replies: @Godfree Roberts
  50. @GeeBee

    GeeBee, my man, that was so deep! Not even my genius brain caught the bit where you went off at “da joos”. It took the author’s own fantastic intellect to point it out to me…
    I must say, at the end of the article, the thing that stuck in my mind was : “So, this dude has this complex series of things that just happened to happen as it happened, with no central planning at all?”
    Next we gonna hear America lost her industry because…I dunno… China was just better at manufacturing quality products?
    I guess I’ll wait for the “independent judiciary” to inform me via the “free press”. We’re so lucky those guys don’t all get their agenda from one place, yeeesss?

  51. @Daniel H

    I guess the States formerly known as United are protected from outright vassalage by their island status (i.e. the impossibility of invasion), like Venice and Little Britain before them;
    the same examples show the very real danger of ossification – Little Britain, after a century of bankruptcy, still believes it rules the South China Sea.

    It seems Solshenitsyn was right and it does a nation good to get fucked over real good from time to time 😛

  52. mikael_ says:

    This is great satire, presenting the dogmatic (or dialectic?) Marxist viewpoint with a stiff upper lip, while also interspersing lots of true factoids to try to transfer credibility from those.
    However

    put down the 1956 counter-revolution in Hungary

    gave it away, that’s just a bit too much over the top.

    I also like your correct debunking of “the propaganda of Western think tanks that China is ‘state capitalist’ and even ‘imperialist’”, and at the same time cautiously avoiding to state what China actually is – and it’s surely not Communist/Leninist anymore.

  53. KA says:
    @JohnPlywood

    Fact that USA $65,297 buys less than China’s per capita ($10,261) is a sober reminder of the need to assess the fact free imposed importance of GDP on understanding todays’s fiat economy anchored by the violently actuve mouse of the Fed’s computer.

    Interest rate gies down ,stock market goes up . GDP goes up. Fed prints money. Poor American desoite paying 2/3 more for vehicle registration, parking fee in Chicago downtown, more for parking fine, more for plumbing,aircidtioning heating services,more for internet and cable services,more for milk,bagels,McDonald coffee ,more for transport,more for baggage fee in flight, more for rent,more for cereals ,pasta, grocery,and baby diapers are told there is no inflation.

    • Replies: @JohnPlywood
  54. @kauchai

    Wow! I did not know that Friedman told Zhao that china should de-controlled prices “in one bold stroke”!!

    Thanks for that! (Do you have a link for it? I would love to beat up my friends with that gem).

    • Replies: @kauchai
  55. mikael_ says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    Unfortunately your link only displays a WordPress login screen, to me.

    • Replies: @Godfree Roberts
  56. @Levtraro

    Don’t confuse ‘growth’ with ‘acceleration’.

    If I asked how much your 15-year-old son has grown since I saw him last year and you answered “Six percent,” I would think you’d lost your marbles.

    China will grow more this year, in constant dollars, than it has ever grown in its history: $2.1 trillion.

    It can easily maintain 6% acceleration for the next 20 years.

    • Replies: @Johnny Johnny
    , @Levtraro
  57. Excellent read, thanks Max

  58. Marckus says:

    It looks to me that Xi and Putin want to do a Corona anal swab on each other and are showing what type of insertion will be applied. All I can say for Vlad is OUCH ! What are friends and allies for eh ?

    In any case……..

    Western Blacks are smart because they play scrabble.
    Gooks are smart because they play majong
    African Blacks play with chicken bones and Tom Tom drums
    Russians are smart because they play chess
    East Indians are smart because they play with themselves

    Whites are smart because we play with nuclear missiles !

    • Replies: @Avery
  59. Reaper says:

    Article is quite good.
    Yet I did miss the Sino-Soviet conflict (or quick war as we mention it) after all that was part of the relations between those countries.
    Still is. Many Russians dislike the Chinese “reclaim” of Outer Manchuria/ their heavy presence in Siberia.

    So their relationship is more likely hard negotiations/ manage to come along than a happy union.
    In a military sense even more than in the economic.

    Without the North America-EU-Australia economic/ trade (sanction) efforts most likely this not that happy Chinese-Russian “marriage” never come this far.
    Same with Brasil, Indonesia, Vietnam in case of Russia.

  60. @RichardTaylor

    Powerful only from the smell emanating from the rot.

  61. @Anon

    If it is true that the Joo bankers are now in China, then it is the beginning of the end of China, the New Silk Road and all Chinese efforts in Africa and elsewhere. I hope your comment is incorrect.

    • Replies: @Jake
  62. @Juri

    And how exactly can the western world afford to be able to make their own stuff?

    Australia exports every piece of natural resource required to make a car and yet imports the completed product from Asia. The local industries just can’t compete and are closed. All thanks to corrupt union leaders, corporate leaders, political leaders and their joo buddies and infiltrators.

  63. mikael_ says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    https://www.herecomeschina.com/revisiting-tiananmen-square/

    Thanks.
    It looks a bit contradictory to write “massive layoffs of workers in state-owned enterprises” and in the next sentence “exploitation of rural migrant labour” – which one is it, too much or too little labor force?
    And some quote signs are missing two paragraphs later, as otherwise you would indicate you were Beijing University president at the time.
    If “two hundred forty-one killed, including thirty-six students, ten soldiers and thirteen People’s Armed Police during a riot in Chang’An Road” then who were the other 182 people?

    Some details I had never heard before, very good & thanks.
    You did a laudable job trying to provide sources, but it the end it’s all third hand he-wrote-she-said stuff, or ‘there’s this book but we know nothing first-hand about the author.’
    Down to the line, and to really get to the nitty-gritty, I stick with https://archives.cjr.org/behind_the_news/the_myth_of_tiananmen.php

    • Replies: @Joe Wong
    , @Godfree Roberts
  64. Ugetit says:
    @xyzxy

    First, if Kissinger is a ‘war criminal’ then pretty much all top tier US politicians/officials since Lincoln have to be included in that category.

    Well, guess what?

    Same can be said of Bernard Baruch, Red leaning Wall Street multimillionaire “adviser” to presidents for ~40 years.

  65. xyzxy says:
    @kauchai

    When you pronounce the characters in a sentence you are saying Chinese Communist Party. I’ve seen it both ways on Chinese web sites. It’s the same with the Taiwan Guomindang (KMT) which is both referred to as the Chinese Nationalist Party and the Nationalist Party of China.

    However it is, since even the CPC/CCP are becoming more Confucian, it is a good time to take his doctrine of the ‘rectification of names’ to heart, and use the official terminology.

    Another problem for westerners with translating Chinese is that phonetic transcriptions don’t work very well, due to the way the sounds are formed, tonal inflections, and the varying dialects. Given the prevalence of mass communication, the latter is not as much of an issue as it was during the Chinese Civil War. An anecdote one sometimes comes across is that Chinese from different provinces couldn’t understand Mao because of his own dialect.

    FWIW, my first impression was that CPC (as opposed CCP) was used in order to distinguish the abbreviation from the common transliteration into English of the Soviet Union, or the CCCP.

    • Thanks: Godfree Roberts
    • Replies: @kauchai
  66. Jake says:
    @Ukraine Tiger

    If it is true that Jewish bankers are now in China, if they are not restrained, they will act to steer China so that China serves Jewish interests, which means steering China to get synched with the Anglo-Zionist Empire.

  67. @KA

    Fact that USA $65,297 buys less than China’s per capita ($10,261)

    LOL! Source?

  68. Avery says:
    @Marckus

    {“Whites are smart because we play with nuclear missiles !”}

    Yeah, sure. You wish.
    So do Russians and Chinese.

    [RS-28 Sarmat: New Russian ICBM to Enter Combat Duty in 2022]
    https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/rs-28-sarmat-new-russian-icbm-enter-combat-duty-2022-174616
    [Exact details on the Sarmat’s capabilities have been sparse, but it has been reported that the ICBM is able to carry ten large warheads, or sixteen smaller warheads. Moreover, it could be utilized as the delivery vehicle for a hypersonic boost-glide weapon. It may also have had a complex development process as its introduction has been delayed several times, with its initial introduction slated for 2018, only to be pushed back to 2021 and now the Russia media has stated it will begin operations in 2022—and that is likely at the earliest.]

    [Russia’s New ICBM Could “Wipe Out Texas”]
    https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a23547/russias-new-icbm-could-wipe-out-texas/
    [The RS-28 Sarmat is the first entirely new Russian ICBM in decades. The heavyweight missile weighs 100 tons and can boost 10 tons. Russia claims the Sarmat can lift 10 heavyweight warheads, or 16 lighter ones, and Russian state media has described it as being able to wipe out an area the size of Texas or France.]
    ————————
    Nuclear Warheads
    Russia 6,375
    US 5,800
    China 320
    ————————
    btw: this may shock you, but Russians are, quote, “white”.
    Maybe a little whiter than youse.

    Aaaaaand…..to help you sleep soundly tonight, here is a short video of the 50 megaton Tsar Bomba explosion. Enjoy.

    • Replies: @Marckus
  69. @Carlton Meyer

    You misunderstand Australia completely. Your misunderstandings are egregious. They cast doubt over everything else that you say in your videos.

    We are much less constrained than those countries which lie closer to China, and the cost-benefit analysis points firmly to a strong alliance with the US. We’re not ‘suckers’, we’re pragmatists.

    You think China would be any better than the US? The song ‘Holiday In Cambodia’ was written for people such as you.

    • Troll: mikael_
    • Replies: @Avery
    , @Rancid
  70. Anon[330] • Disclaimer says:

    The Russia hate is another manifestation of Jewish control of America. The Jews HATE Putin & Russia because Putin stopped their looting of Russian assets under the drunk Yeltsin.
    Just as they did during the Wiemar hyper inflation in Germany the Jews had money shipped in from overseas and were buying up assets at pennies on the dollar.
    That led to huge resentment of Jews in Germany and again in Russia.
    From Netanyahu’s infamous “Fink’s Bar diatribe” of 1990
    “If we get caught they will just replace us with persons of the same cloth. So it does not matter what you do, America is a golden calf and we will suck it dry, chop it up, and sell it off piece by piece until there is nothing left but the world’s biggest welfare state that we will create and control. Why? Because it is the will of God and America is big enough to take the hit so we can do it again and again and again. This is what we do to countries that we hate. We destroy them very slowly and make them suffer for refusing to be our slaves.”

  71. @Godfree Roberts

    GDP is just another retarded meaningless financial term anyway, who cares….if I sell you my house for $500,000 and you sell me your house for $500,000, and we move into each other’s houses, the GDP just went up a cool $1M though in reality nothing happened, no wealth created.

    • Replies: @Half Back
  72. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    in particular the INTENSELY racist, genocidal, colonial settler regimes of the Five Eyes

    Not this shit again.

    • Replies: @Marckus
  73. Russia is ascending organically. China was gifted a good bit by US CEO’s and Israeli spies. However both have central banks linked to the Rothschild banking empire. So bottom line is we are indeed going to hell in a handbasket, but for the rest of the world the more things change – the more they stay the same. Finally as reminder: everyone can enjoy our collapse, but we still have nukes in the control of criminally insane people.

  74. Hey, Max, you’re right. However, something needs to be said to those you so adamantly support:

    Yes, our “leaders” over here are doing stupid, bad things. Gee, so you really pretend for one second that communist, Russian, Jewish, Bolshevik leaders didn’t do even worse things?

    One thing you don’t have is respect for my ancestors who crossed the North Atlantic Ocean on sailing ships — 300 years ago! That is something no one’s ancestors or people from Russia or any number of other places ever did. We are superior to you, and you can’t stand that.

    It’s kind of like the American landings on the Moon. You didn’t do it. Nobody else could have. MY people did it.

    Whatever happens, you will always be descended from inferior people. And the first human being on another world will always and forever have been an American.

    Sometimes weeds take over a garden. That is all that is happening right now.

    • Agree: GeneralRipper
    • Replies: @Alden
  75. Avery says:
    @Stebbing Heuer

    Australia is under US’s thumb, because Australia is one of the 5 countries of what Churchill called ‘The English speaking peoples’.

    England,
    US,
    Canada,
    Australia,
    New Zealand.

    Pretty much any war US gets involved in, Aussies are one of the first to join in.
    Old English blood I suppose.

  76. Max Parry says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    glad to see some of my fav OffG commenters on here.

    • Troll: GeneralRipper
  77. Z-man says:
    @Max Parry

    It’s always ‘da jooz’ you friggin Jew, to their short term benefit but hopefully to their ultimate demise.
    The Neochoens have demonized Putin and Russia so much in the last 20+ years that it has pushed Russia into closer ties with ‘da Chinks’ as ‘Da West’ thru the Anglo Zionist Empire is almost completely controlled by ‘The Cabal’. Fortunately for us Russians are always weary of the Chicomms and will only join them just so far as they would rather face West (Europe and America**). Actually they would be facing East if they see Alaska, ha!
    Trump intuitively knew this and wanted to be friends with Russia, that’s why I was in his camp and why The Cabal was out to get him even though he was basically a lackey for the Zionists. He eventually broke and stopped being pro Russian and completely groveled to ‘Big Joo’*. (Puke)

    *His kowtowing to his own Zionist ambassador at a news conference last summer was nauseating.
    **Unfortunately Christian white Europe and Christian white America are being rapidly cancelled by ‘you know who’. But hope springs eternal, “Jooz won’t replace us”.

    • Thanks: FLgeezer
    • Replies: @Max Parry
  78. China is already the world’s largest economy. It has been the largest economy for at least two decades. It is a Western delusion to surmise otherwise, falsifying statistics to make it look that way, claiming every couple of years that China’s economic superiority is still somewhere down the road, that it is not here yet. Even within some of the Western media outlets most critical of affairs in the United States, such as the Unz Review, the myth persists. And it goes to show the degree to which people of European background are unwilling to accept the truth.

    • Replies: @M17
  79. Max Parry says:
    @Z-man

    I’m just curious, did you get your handle from the transvestite character in Beyond the Valley of the Dolls?

    • Replies: @Chris Moore
    , @Z-man
  80. lysias says:
    @Anonymous

    Covid could well have been the West’s attack on China. An attack which not only failed, but backfired.

  81. “Oddly enough, it was reportedly none other than Henry Kissinger who encouraged Trump to ease the strained relations with Russia as a strategy to contain China, the traditional enemy he once convinced Richard Nixon to make steps toward peace with.”

    Henry “war criminal” Kissinger is only preaching the age old Jewish saw, mistakenly called Roman by egocentric fools because it sounds so good in Latin, divide et impera… by dividing and ruling an impotent entity becomes self-important to its own demise in the end!

  82. lysias says:
    @TG

    The US failed militarily in Korea and Vietnam. It would have failed in any attempt to conquer China, just as Japan did.

  83. @GeeBee

    Any chance of FDR’s Good Neighbor Policy being implemented ended when Henry Wallace was prevented from being on FDR’s ticket at the Democratic Party’s convention in 1944. FDR wanted Wallace, but no-name Harry Truman was forced on by the Party’s anti-communist inner circle, and the President, in failing health (only months away from death), didn’t have the power to stop them.

  84. Levtraro says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    It seems to me you are confusing growth with acceleration. The 6% you quote at the end of your reply is growth (1st derivative) not acceleration (2nd derivative). China’s GDP acceleration has been negative since 2010 (i.e. growth has decreased).

    • Replies: @glib
    , @Badger Down
  85. Rancid says:
    @Stebbing Heuer

    Australia had a very beneficial trade surplus with China. They are the emerging power and and relations were largely good. There was no reason for that fool Morrison to blow that up, now he is running around trying to forge some sort of Quad military bloc to oppose them. And for what reason? To keep the US happy is the only logical one. Oh yeah and he does this after running up the biggest debt in our history with his failed covid respose.

    So yes, we are a bunch of idiots as following a media ramp up we seem to largely believe that China is the enemy. They never had to be blood brothers, but being friends with a large military neighbor is always going to be cheaper than arming for a war you can’t win.

    • Agree: Arthur MacBride
  86. AKINDLE says:

    The US and their Corporations exported great amounts of manufacturing and technology overseas and is now basically a country that merely exists to pay blacks to fornicate. In every aspect it gives blacks a free ride and throws Whites under the bus. Negro-worship has become the official religion of this land. What’s left to export? Rap and ghetto culture? No sane country would want any part of the US government’s and media’s beloved africans. This Country had clout when it was 90% White, now it is turning into an african and non White cesspool, which garners no respect.

    • Replies: @FLgeezer
  87. @Max Parry

    So, Max Parry gloats over the corpse of Amerikkka, Gayfree Robert’s joins the orgy (hope you practised safe gloating and wore a mask) and Mumbles beats it in the corner like the Gimp.

    All in all, pretty God Damn disgusting bunch of self-hating Western traitor-phaggots. I’m glad my WW2 vet grand-father and his wife (retired Head Nurse of a Major Hospital) aren’t alive to see this. They warned me about Communists who wanted to destroy things just for kicks. I only partly believed them until the West dismembered Yugoslavia. Now losers gloat over the dismemberment and destruction of the West.

    Where were you educated Parry, you fucking traitor.

    You lack the intellectual honesty to assess the truth of our 5th column of traitors, aka Israel and Bidet’s half-Jewish Cabinet, or you work for them.
    So which is it traitor?

    • LOL: Rdm
    • Troll: Godfree Roberts
    • Replies: @Max Parry
  88. As American economic power continues to decline, a division has emerged within the U.S. political establishment as to which of its designated adversaries is to blame for the country’s woes — Russia, or China.

    Of course. They have to blame someone other than themselves.

    This is not about China, Russia, Muslims, or anyone else. This is about a parasitical Gentry class that has increasingly dominated America over the past 30 years.

  89. Max Parry says:
    @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    My grandfather was at Normandy and Battle of the Bulge. The only “traitors” are those demonizing our allies in that war like China and Russia.

    Do you realize how politically confused you must be to think that the Western elite who dismembered Yugoslavia to reinstate capitalism were communists?

  90. glib says:
    @Levtraro

    correct. and the underlying cause is a deceleration in the consumption of oil, Now that peak oil has been reached, even growth (1st derivative) will turn negative, but not as negative as elsewhere. I do expect Russia to have the highest standards of living in the world by mid-2030.

  91. FLgeezer says:
    @AKINDLE

    Well said AKINDLE. Thanks.

  92. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Putin is 68 and reportedly in good health. And Russia’s education system is far superior to our globo-homo indoctrination. It would be foolish to think that Russia will self-destruct after Putin. Unless he retires or gets sick, Putin has at least 10 more good years left, and there are many capable men to take his place.

    Biden is 78 and dying before our eyes. He is a symbol of our accelerating decline. The USA has seen its self-destructive impulses moving into warp speed after Trump. If current trends continue, the Hegemon may not even be around to frighten the rest of the world in ten years. The crumbling US empire is a Dead Man Walking.

  93. Realist says:
    @beavertales

    The Stolen Election Deep State Coup of 2020, mass censorship and surveillance, unaccountable oligarchs deciding to rewrite the Constitution, the Great Replacement, stratospheric debt, woke politics dividing the polity, crumbling infrastructure and an uncertain dollar….

    All this has been in the planning for decades…but is now coming to fruition.

  94. Alfred says:

    while mortality fell by an entire decade under IMF-imposed ‘shock therapy’

    This should be

    while life-expectancy fell by an entire decade under IMF-imposed ‘shock therapy’

    • Agree: Cortes
  95. @Max Parry

    Wait, so “da joos” were not only behind the Soviet Union but also its downfall? Make up your minds.

    It’s gentiles who see a paradox. They use any opportunity even ideology to advance group agendas.

    In South Africa one group controlled the mining industrial complex while another dominated the Communist Party. Both cultivated strong relations with the Jewish state. In fact South African Airways connected to Europe via Israel.

    The fundamental difference between the US and China is while the CCP or CPC, take your pick, is self-serving Han people are next in terms of priority. In contrast Joe “Guinness” Biden, Nancy “Cinzano” Pelosi and Demopublicans serve alien interests as documented by Mearsheimer, Walt and others.

  96. @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle

    That will be a good thing I think, if it neuters the US Army.

    • Replies: @Reverend
  97. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @Max Parry

    You can always tell “da jooz” by their flip, adolescent retribution. Everything you wrote is tainted by the fact that you’re a brainwashed tribal tool who can’t decipher objective reality, and until you get some kind of de-programming or deep psychotherapy (is it even possible?) will always be.

    • Thanks: Z-man
  98. It is hard to figure out where we are going. So it is stalemate at this moment in history.

  99. Alfred says:
    @Anonymous

    Putin is getting on in years, and a post-Putin Russia could be more pro-US.

    Extremely unlikely. Putin is not alone. He is surrounded by advisors and other power centres. If Putin were to move out of the limelight, I suspect the West will be in for a shock. His replacement is unlikely to be so patient and forgiving.

    It will be a case of “if you take my pawn, I will take your bishop”

    • Agree: AnonfromTN
    • Thanks: GMC
    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    , @Anonymous
  100. @SafeNow

    Naval force projection is worthless in the coming revolution of hypersonic missiles. Russia if they play their cards right will be the next white, Christian super power in the next century. They have HUGE potential to vertically integrate every aspect of their massive deposits of natural gas, oil, rare earth elements, and biomass ie lumber/farmland. Russia is leading the way in military tech and doing it with 1/10th the cost of the US. Chinese soldiers are a joke compared to Russians. The Russians are tough, resourceful, cohesive, nationalistic, white and Christian. Russia needs to raise its children with opposition to the disgusting, debauchery of western entertainment and culture. Look at the recent Grammy awards with too disgusting black female apes scissoring to a disgusting song about wet female sex organs. To say the west even has a chance at maintaining any sense of power and prestige in the world is a laughable joke. America died with Kennedy. Hitler was the last great hope for the world and white Europeans. If the US populace was smart they’d demand our country align with Russia and Putin and take on China and the rest of the world.

  101. Marckus says:
    @Avery

    Oh don’t be so sensitive, defensive and childish. You sound like 14 year old a cry baby…

    “Nah nah nah nah nah, they have bombs tooooo oo oo oo ooooooo !!”

    You need to spend less time looking at those Jutube videos where some 13 year old posts shit like “3 most powerful militaries in the world” and “most totally amazing, sick and awesome Russian missiles” LOL

    Think about it.No military advertises new weapons developed or developing so the propaganda spewed by Putin is bunk…for idiots like you to gawk over. Russia and China may be “bros” for the moment but not forever. Russia is white and will hang white when the chips are down.

    We have China and Russia ringed. When they get uppity we got something for them. You don’t understand, to have power the greatest weapon is the mind to do what the other side will not do or will hesitate to do.

    We have already used nukes. Using them again is not a big deal for us. What better way to cleanse the world of all those pesky Asians or better yet make them our slaves.

    I sleep soundly at night and you should too unless you are a CCP peeping tom or an outright Putin communist flunkie !?

    • Replies: @Avery
  102. Avery says:
    @Marckus

    {“Oh don’t be so …….. childish.”}

    Says a delusional child with an overactive imagination.

    Exhibit A: {“It looks to me that Xi and Putin want to do a Corona anal swab on each other and are showing what type of insertion will be applied. All I can say for Vlad is OUCH ! What are friends and allies for eh ?”}

    btw: you seem to know quite a bit about scatological goings on: talking from experience?

    • LOL: Marckus
    • Replies: @Marckus
  103. Marckus says:
    @Stebbing Heuer

    Mulga is a slimy Hakka Chinese hanging with the whites on UR. For all his horseshit he knows who the winners are and the dudes that will go for the touchdown. I bet he has even dyed his hair and bought blue contact lenses in an effort to blend in. The giveaway, and what will drop him in it is the slanty eyes and crooked teeth. He is always mouthing off about Asian superiority but chose a white handle and to boot one that reflects his idiotic frame of mind. “Mumblebrain” indeed ! LOL

    I got a feeling he wants to be our girl friend so when we take over he will get preferential treatment. What Mungo Bran needs to understand is that he will be one of the first on our interview list. We got a special place reserved for Mulga and the other Xi spooks. Its called Chino in sunny California where they can look out at the beautiful mushroom clouds rising far to the west.

    The Dindus who run the pace like making new Asian friends.

  104. Z-man says:
    @Max Parry

    Pathetic. Ditto to what Chris Moore said in his reply.
    BTW, Max, just to keep you guessing, Z does not stand for Zion. LOL

  105. @Anon

    The important clause that you didn’t include is that any sitting finance minister can seize or buy back the shares have force if the company or person is deemed a national security threat. The Chinese market isn’t free.

  106. SafeNow says:


    A parallel: The hole in the plot was that Redford lacked obvious safety equipment that would have averted disaster. Likewise,
    the U.S. failed to take the obvious steps.

  107. In the absence of true campaign finance reform, our politicians are in the pocket of corporate interests. It’s difficult to blame foreign powers when, after all, it is an absence of statutory law AKA compromised and corrupted officialdom, that permitted a loud “sucking sound” of industrial know how to leave our shores-unrestricted. The warning was broadcast over and over again by Ross Perot. One man who had the guts and integrity to speak the obvious truth. However Ross got it wrong, it wasn’t Mexico, it was China. Over the last forty years, we’ve all had plenty of time to properly react to a procession of some twenty five thousand U.S. based corporations that left for China, taking the means of production, brain trusts and intellectual property rights with them. In doing so, once on Chinese soil, their CEO’s and board members surrendered countless man hours of both American ingenuity, innovation and R & D over to Chinese bureaucrats and the CCP .This fantastic blunder lead to all sorts of legal entanglements and commitments hand delivered to a rival power. This to satisfy a lust for cheap labor and high dividends to shareholders. In effect, a tour de force that deliberately destroyed organized labor thus spelled an end to an American educated middle class and their educated progeny, done to such an extent, it precipitated a demographic (age group) gap compelling Washington to import not only manufactured finished products but people as well ! Now it is China that has more middle class people than we have in total population (420 million Chinese), thanks to our most prestigious business leaders and corrupt Washington officialdom

    ASIDE: It was a lucky circumstance that filled the needed generational gap from South Americans, otherwise in terms of demography, we would have been another Japan.

    To repeat, the transfer of wealth and technology without congressional restrictions that would restrain the exit of manufacturing and intellectual property rights by transnational corporations, in the final analysis forfeited our military strength. This transfer should have raised a few eyebrows on the heads of our, flat line brain dead congress but didn’t even when it was revealed that parts of our latest and most advanced fighter aircraft, the F-35 are exclusively made in-China.

    The D.C. beltway and their all-to-powerful and greedy lobbyists don’t need to point to an enemy, all they need to do is look in the mirror! there’s America’s greatest threat to our strength and democracy.

    The deliberate transfer of power and prestige preserved by our citizenry on the battlefield and beyond, over to China and the SCO nations rests with the wealthiest ilk of our nation. So, listen up old man Rockefeller and those five sons of yours, I hope all your rear ends are on fire, sitting next to Judas in hell, because that’s exactly where you all belong!

    • Agree: Zarathustra, Rdm
    • Replies: @Chris Moore
    , @Zarathustra
    , @Lin
  108. @JohnPlywood

    A great deal of the average Americans income goes to various dealers and middlemen.
    The classic examples are the Health (and drivers) insurance scams, and Higher Ed. A quite remarkable number of people are working to actively reduce production- we have the private prison industry lobbying legislature to lock more people up adding their piece.
    Think of it as the difference between Engine Horsepower and Brake Horsepower.
    The US has a transmission packed full of Trans-Gender Micro-Aggression practitioners adding their bit to “GDP”.

    Hard to see the Chinee trying to replicate that nonsense.

    • Replies: @JohnPlywood
  109. M17 says:

    I believe we make a huge error, thinking that the great nations are each others opponents on the highest level.

    The spectacular development of China was only partly due to its millenary slave culture. The big reason is, that the developed world gave all technology, know-how, training, supplies and set the door wide open for Chinese products without tarifs.

    It was most clear even 30 years ago, that relocation of our own – even strategically critical – production to China would destroy the West. Everybody knew, even the Congolese taxi driver.

    All nations – USA, EU, China, Russia and others – have the same plan with their populations: make them 100% surveyed and depressed slaves, controlled by an oligarchy. Perhaps give them the equivalent of Prozac with cybernetics, to be still able to function.

    Which country is not in the hands of oligarchs ? Where do the middle classes still thrive ?

    Satan – alias the war god Jehova – rules prison planet. Stand up for your brothers and sisters, rise up and shine – or suffocate in the muds of hell.

  110. mwee says:

    Tito’s “No to Stalin” 1948 was the best thing ever for the Yugoslavia. The only socialist country in which people were genuinely happy while it lasted, and never to be repeated again.
    USA, 1776 to cca 2001 – 225 years.
    YU, cca 1950 to 1980 – 30 years. Not bad, if compared, for the small country that was so backward before the WWII.

  111. M17 says:
    @gleongelpi

    Not the most independent economy.

  112. America’s National Humiliation by Eurasia

    No; “America” humiliates itself. America is crumbling – not just economically but politically, militarily, physically, culturally, etc. – simply because America is profoundly evil; and it is the nature of evil to destroy itself.

    While China’s leaders plot business strategy, America’s “leaders” plot the overthrow of any government that wont take orders. While Putin talks about the importance of faith in God and traditional Christian values, and fosters a spiritual revolution in Russia, U.S. “leaders” double down on devil worship, hoping that by going low enough, evil can deliver on the promise that “all shall be [theirs]” (Luke 4:7).

    Being that a majority of the American people are generally morally incompetent and the “government” is run by demon-possessed satanists, what other outcome should we expect?

  113. @Lin

    Thanks for your answer, Lin. I read it with interest.

    I am certainly no expert on the matter.

    I agree that “construct” is perhaps not a good word to use – what I meant was that, at least to me, it seems as if the Communist Party has had a big hand in deliberately creating, by fair means and foul, a national identity, as compared to an identity that has been more organically grown by the people themselves. To be sure, the CPC uses a lot of the old stuff, which is good, but I would be greatly surprised if it is not very conscious of what it shows, what it hides.

    It is certainly not a black/white matter – and I do not mean to denounce China and everything chinese, but on the other hand, I not subscribe to the view that there is nothing to criticize.

    Social darwinism is not going to lead to a stable state in the long run, I am sure. Such a philosophy will inevitably create factions, discord, and strife. But it might last for quite long.

    • Replies: @Lin
  114. @Alfred

    I agree.
    The main threat to Putin has long come from people who are considerably more “Nationalist” than he is.

  115. frontier says:
    @beavertales

    America is internally divided and the house cannot stand, let alone take on external adversaries.

    Make that America is being intentionally divided and asset-stripped. We should not lie to ourselves, this has been going on for quite a while. The top US elites have had more than enough time and power to set policy and evaluate consequences… ignorance is absolutely not the case here. There’s a plan and it doesn’t look good for anyone outside of a very narrow circle.

  116. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @elmerfudzie

    Over the last forty years, we’ve all had plenty of time to properly react to a procession of some twenty five thousand U.S. based corporations that left for China, taking the means of production, brain trusts and intellectual property rights with them. In doing so, once on Chinese soil, their CEO’s and board members surrendered countless man hours of both American ingenuity, innovation and R & D over to Chinese bureaucrats and the CCP .This fantastic blunder lead to all sorts of legal entanglements and commitments hand delivered to a rival power. This to satisfy a lust for cheap labor and high dividends to shareholders. In effect, a tour de force that deliberately destroyed organized labor thus spelled an end to an American educated middle class and their educated progeny

    You forgot the role of the Jewish lobby — lying us into neocon wars, declaring anyone who opposed the neoliberal, open borders and cheap labor agenda xenophobic and anti-Semitic, rigging the Fed to serve Zionist Wall Street instead of the American people, polluting the culture via Hollywood and MSM for purposes of bread and circuses shilling and pure Jewish envy and malice… I could go on and on.

    America would not be on the brink but for Zionist scum that the Silent Generation and Boomers pandered to no end, because “easy money.”

  117. @ConqueringFools

    Russia if they play their cards right will be the next white, Christian super power in the next century.


    If the US populace was smart they’d demand our country align with Russia and Putin and take on China and the rest of the world.

    First, if the “U.S. populace was smart” (or better yet, generally morally competent) the U.S. wouldn’t be in this predicament in the first place. Second, actual Christians don’t feel a need to be a worldly “super power” and to “take on” their neighbors (in anything other than morally justifiable defense of their legitimate interests).

    Anyone paying attention can see that every military technological advantage Russia now has over the evil empire was acquired in the reluctant pursuit of legitimate self-defense against a deadly implacable enemy whose evil designs on the world are painfully obvious.

    Possessing the advantages that it now has and being on the moral high ground, Russia has been very restrained and reluctant to throw its weight around; perhaps too restrained under the circumstances. Russia is always wanting to negotiate and find peaceful solutions whereas force and fraud are the tools of first resort of the crumbling evil empire.

  118. bayviking says:
    @Thomas Faber

    Materialism is a form of philosophical monism that holds that matter is the fundamental substance in nature, and that all things, including mental states and consciousness, are results of material interactions. According to philosophical materialism, mind and consciousness are by-products or epiphenomena of material processes (such as the biochemistry of the human brain and nervous system), without which they cannot exist. This concept directly contrasts with idealism, where mind and consciousness are first-order realities to which matter is subject and material interactions are secondary.

    Religion, on the other hand is bunk. But some form of social cohesion and cooperation is essential to fulfill productivity in a virtuous economic cycle of production and consumption. Delivering on our constitutional mandate to promote the general welfare requires consideration of the needs of the 99%. For too long only legislation favorable to the .01% has made it into law. The most recent $1.9 trillion Covid relief package would seem to be the beginning of a reversal of that trend, but thus far most of the relief hasn’t made it past the fatcats.

  119. AndrewR says:
    @RichardTaylor

    It’s true that the US has a lot of natural strengths and can continue to coast on its residual wealth and power for a while. But the cultural lunacy and social dissolution we are experiencing should not be understated. The enemies and rivals of the US don’t need to beat it in a war. They just have to let the clock run out. Of course, the Jews will increase their infestation of China and Russia so that they will be safe once the US collapses. The house always wins.

  120. anon[187] • Disclaimer says:

    How about that Atlanta massage parlor shoot up eh? The shooter blamed the Asian masseuse for “making him addicted to sex”. I have no sympathy for either the shooter or the “victims”. These women knew what they were doing. They’re here to bring our country low. Instead of doing hard work to make an honest living in their native countries, they opted for the easy way out by coming over here to work as sex workers. As for the shooter, men who get massages are immoral low lives and soft men who will never be pillars of society. It’s good that they are taking each other out.

    America is the sick man of the West but the entire West is sick from inside out. All the drugs, sex, alcohol, degenerate pop culture and entertainment of the world came from the West, mostly America but Europe does its share. The left brought low the entire West by pedaling depravity as liberty. John Stuart Mill who gave us the concept of classical liberalism which championed individual liberty also pointed out that such freedom should only be given to a people who are responsible and morally upright, and that governments should ban all institutions that promote vice such as prostitution, drinking and gambling.

    America cannot right itself until we shut down all the institutions that promote vice: brothels, massage parlors, nightclubs, casinos, marijuana shops, pornography producers and outlets, i.e. all of Hollywood including especially HBO, Showtime and Netflix. But as long as the depraved Jews are running things, that’ll never happen. Bringing the people low with degeneracy is their weapon, so we’ll just have to rely on more shoot ups to root out these seedy underbellies of our society.

    • Disagree: Rdm
    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  121. anon[187] • Disclaimer says:
    @ConqueringFools

    If the US populace was smart they’d demand our country align with Russia and Putin and take on China and the rest of the world.

    If the US populace were smart we’d use a combination of tax incentives and tariffs to bring back all our manufacturing from Asia, end all immigration and all foreign wars. It’s time to take heed of George Washington’s farewell address to the nation, which is to maintain good relations with all nations and not have any special relationship with any country, for any such special relationship, be it amity or enmity, will end up enslaving us. Our “special relationship” with Israel is our doom.

    You’ve drunk too much of the neocon Kool-Aid pedaled by their mouthpieces such as Breitbart. The right is hell bent on pinning China, Iran, Venezuela as the real enemies, in response to the left pinning it all on Russia. Why does America always need someone to hate on? Our elites want us to hate on a foreign country so we won’t turn the attention on them and see what they’re really doing which is looting the country blind through Wall Street and monopoly power while pedaling endless degeneracy through pop culture. Blaming our ills on foreign scapegoats doesn’t make you smart, it just makes you someone’s useful idiot.

    It’s time to wake up. Read Breitbart with a large grain of salt, it is controlled opposition. Don’t you think it’s odd that the only thing the left and the right agree on these days is hatred for China? As Samuel Huntington said in his book Who Are We?, every country needs a foreign enemy to hate on, or they’ll start hating on themselves. China is not the enemy. Our real enemy is within, not without. We have some fifth columnists living among us.

  122. @Max Parry

    They turned on the USSR after Stalin turned on them for their dual-loyalties to the newly-formed Israel. It’s quite simple actually.

  123. Marckus says:
    @Avery

    Having people like you on UR is a lot of fun. Its easy to get under your thin skin and brighten my day with a few laughs.

    One thing though, you did not answer whether you are a Chinaman hiding behind a stout Anglo Saxon name or a Russian stooge.

    Could you let us know ?

  124. @Max Parry

    Well, it can be both. Factor in time and see what you see.

  125. Anonymous[131] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alfred

    Stephen F. Cohen used to make clear during his weekly discussions with John Bachelor that Putin did not have absolute authority in Russia, that the government was not a strong man dictatorship but an oligarchy with democratic trappings sort of like the USA, and that, in addition to the significant faction of “Atlanticist” American appeasers lurking about the RF, there was a large strong cadre of hard line nationalists wanting much more strident confrontation with their American adversaries.

    But Professor Cohen is now several months dead and essentially the entire American establishment had decided to ignore his accumulated wisdom years before the insane American-instigated Maidan putsch, choosing instead to denigrate him and fan the winds of war. Obama, probably given his marching orders by the neocons, deliberately chose to rekindle the Cold War based on false narratives, unfounded allegations and incendiary threats. Trump may have chilled the over-heated atmosphere with the RF but was prevented from resuming normal relations by the Deep State’s non-stop attempt to throw him out of office during his entire four-year term. Now Obama’s crazy uncle, Joe Biden, is nominally in control and trying to inflame tensions once again with his off-the-wall rhetoric and accusations against Putin. It may take a miracle to get through the next four years without a major war that the entire world will regret. All so unnecessary. Some people can’t stand prosperity.

  126. Max Parry says:
    @ConqueringFools

    Russia is an extremely heterogenous society with over 190 ethnic groups (“the prison house of nations”), including 10% Muslim. Stop projecting your bullshit onto another country you know nothing about.

    • Replies: @frontier
  127. @Max Parry

    Muttmerica destroyed Europe with the help of the kikes, the anglos and the swarm of slavic commies. It is just getting what it deserves now.
    The most gnatzee obssessed columnists here arent even russian anymore but rather amerimutts like perry here and cj.hartzIV (a social welfare recipent in Berlin, lol).

    Im way past the point of rage tbh. Just delightful apathy now. It will not be any man who will punish the allies scum. Nature has already passed the judgment. Hail Atzland and New Pakistan, lol.

  128. @ConqueringFools

    If you were smart you would have stayed in your shithole country with a WHOLE continent to use. Your very way of thinking is what created this situation in the first place.

    Rome is not the example to be followed. I thought this was clear? Oh wait…

  129. @Max Parry

    Lol, typical yid. Yawn.
    There will be no eternal life on earth for your kind.
    There is only one place for your soul. And it is not pleasant.

  130. That shuffling, shambling, cadaver Bidet, achieved a not novel but still impressive state when he denounced Putin as a ‘killer’. We’ll ignore the obvious hypocrisy and projection, and concentrate on the puerility of wannabe school-yard tough-guy insults emanating from superannuated lips and a debris-clogged ‘brain’. Bidet made it-a genuine senile delinquent, a familiar type.

  131. @Daniel H

    AND the US economy is dominated by the pure, predatory, parasitism of financialised capitalism. In the economy of making things and providing services etc, China is far ahead, hence the frenzy of rage and fear driving the Western ‘Gods Upon the Earth’.

  132. @elmerfudzie

    When US corporation gives the manufacturing some part to some Chinese company it has to give them drawings and specifications. If Chinese do not understand some parts of the specification they may ask. It is more simple than you think. There you have it! This is the real transfer of technological innovations and technological secrets US politicians are in vane complaining.
    This is the way system works. US gets cheaper products and China acquires the American knowledge and secrets.

    • Agree: frontier
  133. @Godfree Roberts

    Godfree, in 49 Roosevelt was four years dead. Perhaps Mao wrote on some of those Bank of Hell notes that the Chinese burn for their dead relatives’ use. Ho Chi Minh also wished to work peacefully with the West, but was similarly ignored. The eclipse of the West is humanity’s last, slim, hope for survival, but when evil imbeciles like BoJo decide, out of nowhere, apparently, to increase their nuclear arsenal, then prospects are very grim indeed.

    • Replies: @Godfree Roberts
  134. @Max Parry

    The Masonic Anglo elite and the Jewish elites are happy to use any and all ideologies to achieve their goals.
    They will happily destroy Yugoslavia so that Germany can put in factories. They will happily destroy America to build up China. Then they will destroy China. These people are beyond nations. They have one loyalty: their own power.

    America was the breast we suckled at. It gave us life and liberty. To gloat over its destruction is pathetic.

    My grand-father realized after the war that it had been a con, that the real enemy all along had been the Reds and it caused him great pain. He had helped burn Dresden to the ground for no good reason but Winston’s homicidal rage..
    Russia and China were not our natural allies. That con was perpetrated by Roosevelt and Churchill, ie. The Shabos Goys from Satan. America was hijacked in 1913 when that whore Wilson sold out his own people for his ego (to be Prez). Central banks run by Jews ( the Rothschilds et al) allowed for WW2 and the current destruction of America.
    Rather than identify the problem you crow like a rooster over Americas’ demise and China’s ascendency without analyzing how this situation really came to pass and how much blood was spilt, Western blood.
    I’m not confused. I know who our enemies are. YOU seem intent on being one.

    • Replies: @Getaclue
  135. Geowhizz says:
    @bayviking

    Religion is bunk, you say. You then say, implicitly, we need a new religion.

    • Replies: @bayviking
  136. Lin says:
    @Thomas Faber

    at least to me, it seems as if the Communist Party has had a big hand in deliberately creating, by fair means and foul, a national identity, as compared to an identity that has been more organically grown by the people themselves

    Human behavior is stochastic, like gas molecules inside a container:
    –The gov/authority is a pipe that tries to move the gas in a certain direction
    –Molecular weight, chemical composition—that affects the gas molecular speed,movement, inter-molecular/chemical interaction, ie—State, economy and composition of the civilization/society.
    –External factor, like external temperature: 1)heat up(like Chinese R&D in the face of US embargo) or 2)frozen.., 3)leakage in the pipe(espionage..).

    Sure the Chinese gov/authority like those elsewhere try to steer the population in a certain direction but that’s only one of the factors nor it’s automatically at odd or congruent with the other factors like established civilizational trend. None of the above attributes work in isolation.
    …..
    –China is at the disadvantage of having an excessively large population to support or pressure on resource.
    –Good thing is Chinese are hard working, more meritocratic and have common sense.

    • Replies: @Thomas Faber
  137. One of the latest lies among many lies, being told by the Biden administration and parroted by the establishment media is that White men are attacking Asians. Uh, yeah sure. Whites attacking Asians are about as rare a sight as Californians spotting a California Condor…

    • Replies: @GomezAdddams
  138. @bayviking

    Ah… religion is a big subject. To just call it “bunk” does not do it justice.

    There is much truth to be found in religion if properly understood, but certainly, if religious orders are led by hypocrites, fools, or the wicked, then, I agree, it is “bunk” – and often worse.

    Some form of idealism is necessary to create stable structures. Any philosophy based on materialism will produce entities that fall apart – just as all matter decays.

    • Agree: Harold Smith
    • Replies: @bayviking
  139. Reverend says:
    @Rev. Spooner

    Stop thinking. It is now a fact with the feminization of the military. Now wait for the consequences beyond maternity flight suits. Your comment reminds me of the scene in the original and best “War of the Worlds” when a minister approaches the cylinder saying “We come in peace.” He is immediately incinerated by the martians. They didn’t because any aggressor doesn’t. You seem to have forgotten Theology 101 that we live in a fallen world and nothing can change that.

  140. Lin says:
    @elmerfudzie

    some twenty five thousand U.S. based corporations that left for China, taking the means of production, brain trusts and intellectual property rights with them. In doing so, once on Chinese soil, their CEO’s and board members surrendered countless man hours of both American ingenuity, innovation and R & D over to Chinese bureaucrats and the CCP

    That’s misinformation repeated 100s times..Whenever I asked what kinds of critical tech they ‘gave’ to china, I got no answers(Let me repeat what I posted before:)
    Let’s group Chinese industry:
    1)Lo value added /labor intensive type like apparel, toy making, cell-phone assembly..That’s the 1st stage and it had helped urbanization and created jobs for rural migrants. But being lo-value added, it can’t create enough capital for further development. Even before US-China trade war, those industry have been moving to places like Vietnam, Bangladesh. If the yanks want their min wage seamtress jobs back, they might need to compete with the latter 2 countries. Another piece of infos people here might not be aware of: The Chinese army right now has recruiting problem because young men want to go to college; so the Chinese army shift their recruitment focus on new grads. Chinese army manpower has dropped to under a million.
    2)Core and heavy industry: Like electric power generation, mining, steel making, fossil fuel, auto making, hi-speed rails..
    The only chinese heavy industry the americans have invested heavily is auto-industry(go ask GM) but so have automakers from japan and germany.
    In 2020, china became the first ever country to produce 1 billion tons of steel per year; since 2018, Chinese electricity generation/capita has exceeded that of UK; china has built 40000 km of hi-speed rail—Just what kind of roles the US companies have played in these crucial sectors?
    3)Hi-tech–no further elaboration needed; china is under severe US tech embargo/sanction
    In 2020, china became the

    • Replies: @elmerfudzie
  141. frontier says:
    @Max Parry

    Russia is an extremely heterogenous society with over 190 ethnic groups … Stop projecting your bullshit onto another country you know nothing about.

    Your badly written article is followed by even worse comments. You’re acting like troll, seeking to injure national pride and foment wars. You aren’t a person seeking the truth… much less a solution.

    What matters is that there is no Affirmative Action in Russia, no non-European immigration, no reparations, no ethnic group is being spat upon 24×7, no transgender can get into an opposite sex bathroom, no religious or ethnic group is above the law – you know, no early release, non-prosecution or other such idiocies.

    And what’s wrong with multiple ethnic groups who have been peacefully living in their respective lands for many years? Well, if they are no longer peaceful, things can go Grozny… but not Waco.

  142. @anon

    Are those Asian masseuses taking away jobs from white women or doing jobs white women don’t want to do?

  143. Getaclue says:
    @GeeBee

    Jews? Dindu Nuffin…never do!:


    • Replies: @Malla
  144. Getaclue says:
    @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    Gen. Patton reached the same conclusion before they murdered him as your Father did…my Father of that generation reached the same conclusion also….If they had any idea how things were going to turn out with NWO Rockefeller Communism/Totalitarianism taking over the world and pushing Globohomo “reality” — there is zero doubt the vast majority of them would have done things quite a bit differently….

  145. Getaclue says:
    @bayviking

    Religion is “bunk”? Anyone who actually looks intensely and in good faith finds just the opposite to be the case:

    https://www.churchpop.com/2016/03/15/witnessed-millions-unexplanable-apparition-lady-zeitoun/

    We are living in the Apocalyptic End Times and that fact will become glaringly obvious as the disasters continue to hit like rail cars, more plagues, volcanoes erupt, Earthquakes destroy, WW3 erupts, and NWO Rockefeller Communism/Totalitarianism One World Government takes over the world as prophesied — only to be soon after completely destroyed along with over 2/3’s of those currently on Earth, most of which will have clung to the wrong choice in your “bunk” argument, unfortunately, to their Eternal regret….

    • Replies: @bayviking
  146. Malla says:
    @Getaclue

    From the horses mouth…Jewish Rabbis talking about race mixing the Romans or White people with darker races so that their Satanic Mossiach can come on Earth so that they could brutally rule over the rest of humanity, the lowly non Jewish goyims.
    I had figured this out on my own by my research but was very interesting to see Rabbis admit exactly what I had concluded on my own.

    • Replies: @Getaclue
  147. Joe Wong says:
    @mikael_

    The “June 4th” Tiananmen massacre incident was a play same as the manufactured consent play “I am a Ukrainian”, it was a scene in the colour revolution plotted by the CIA, NED, MI6, NYT, BBC and Taiwan Democratic Progressive Party to overthrow Chinese government and throw Chinese society into chaos. The United States, Britain and Taiwan spent hundreds of millions of dollars to fund the colour revolution; mind you, the monthly salary of Chinese workers in 1989 was 50 yuan, now it is 5,000 yuan monthly.

    Although most Western media reported the “June 4th” Tiananmen incident with Cold War ideological mindset. But some Western media reported the “June 4th” Tiananmen incident objectively. The following links provide good information on what actually happened at Tiananmen Square on “June 4th” 1989.

    http://gregoryclark.net/page15/page15.html
    http://tiananmenmyth.blogspot.com/

    http://www.sinomania.com/CHINANEWS/tiananmen_perspective.html
    http://factsanddetails.com/china/cat2/sub7/item77.html
    http://blog.hiddenharmonies.org/2012/06/%E4%B8%94%E8%B0%881989%E5%B9%B4%E7%9A%84%E5%A4%A9%E5%AE%89%E9%97%A8%E4%BA%8B%E4%BB%B6/
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrhK1vMjx4s&context=C412bd38ADvjVQa1PpcFM_RXF8G_ou50oPKD7cy7GMDbE64TdM05A=
    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/search-results/?q=tiananmen&submit=Search
    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2011/07/01/c

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  148. DrWatson says:
    @Max Parry

    Do you realize how politically confused you must be to think that the Western elite who dismembered Yugoslavia to reinstate capitalism were communists?

    Yeah, they were communist capitalist vultures, just like the ones who benefited from this process in the rest of the former Eastern Bloc.

  149. @Lin

    Lin, a reply from elmerfuzdie. A renowned China expert from Germany, one F. William Engdahl, during a podcast interview at Geopolitics and Empire, discussed the migration of some twenty seven thousand corporations to Chinese soil. Add to this dilemma some seventy or so, of our largest U.S . corporate R&D divisions moved to China as well.

  150. ebear says:

    As a thought experiment, try and picture China today without the last 40 years of:

    1. Massive US investment capital directed to Chinese export based industries.
    2. US owned multinational corporations relocating to China.
    3. An open door policy towards Chinese students at major US universities.

    It’s not hard to understand corporate motives, being entirely profit driven, with China offering a huge reduction in labour costs plus a potentially huge future market, but what was the motivation from the US government, besides catering to corporate interests?

    May I suggest structural problems that arose from the US dollar’s position as international reserve currency? Consider the US relationship with Saudi Arabia. The kingdom sells oil in dollars (as do other OPEC members) a significant portion of which goes to support the US treasury market which underpins US dollar hegemony.

    Now consider the 1973 OPEC oil embargo following on the heels of US abandonment of gold for international settlement in 1971. Is it possible that given the risks associated with Middle East “petro-dollar” recycling operations, exacerbated by the 1979 Iranian revolution, that the US might look for an alternate mechanism for recycling trade dollars into treasury holdings?

    When viewed in this light, China presented itself as a perfect opportunity to maintain dollar hegemony, since the US treasury would be the major beneficiary of recycled Chinese trade dollars, not only via export sales to the US, but through their purchase of OPEC oil, with those dollars likewise recycled through the US treasury.

    I would therefore argue that China’s success story owes more to US monetary policy than any other cause. Basically, China stepped in (with our encouragement) to support a faltering US dollar reserve system, recognizing the opportunity to build its economy to the point where it no longer depended on US dollars for economic development, gradually replacing export markets with internal growth while developing alternative currency arrangements (eg. Ruble/Yuan swap 2014) for trade and energy needs.

    So basically, the US temporarily extended dollar hegemony by hollowing out US industry and creating a major economic rival where none previously existed. Well done guys! Of course those chickens are now coming home to roost, but that’s OK, since the parties behind this historic sell-out knew this day would come and wisely diversified their own holdings worldwide.

  151. Ugetit says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    Mao was an ardent champion of managed capitalism. In 1949, he wrote President Roosevelt…

    While I loathe FDR, there’s a reason FDR ignored his pleas in 1949…

    • Replies: @lloyd
    , @lysias
  152. Anonymous[355] • Disclaimer says:
    @JohnPlywood

    Friend if we could only get rid of the MIC and the rest in Washington we could live on ten dollars a day too, and of course GDP the way we measure it by throwing in all financial instruments means nothing at all.

  153. @Getaclue

    Precisely…..yet America haters, like Parry, can’t seem to get it through their thick heads that being conned once is just that. Once, not forever.

    He wont address the 800 lb. Jew in the room.

    • Agree: Getaclue
  154. voicum says:
    @JohnPlywood

    Talking like a real piece of ‘plywood.

  155. Bill says:
    @Max Parry

    You are a dim, dim bulb.

  156. @Bill Jones

    A great deal of the average Americans income goes to various dealers and middlemen.

    And you think the average Chinese’s income doesn’t?

  157. @ebear

    China’s rise would just have been slower, that’s all. Perhaps ‘better’. After all it is the Chinese who did the work, learned and innovated on the shop-floor, educated tens of millions, those of whom studied overseas enriching those countries as well as their own, saved hugely foregoing current indulgence for future prosperity for their descendants etc.

    • Replies: @Rogue
  158. @Lin

    There is much more to human nature than gas molecules… !

    Certainly, it can be used as a model, and may even have some use, but to make a stable human society, it is not enough – far from it. Human nature is a mysterious thing – and to really make a society work, it must be harmonized with the bigger world, also mysterious. The people need to know what they are, and looking at molecules will not tell them much about that.

    Meritocracy is sensible, as far as it goes. It cannot stand alone, though. Who decides what is the best? And how do they decide it?

    You say that the Chinese have common sense – and I will say that it also to a certain extent seems to be the case from where I’m looking. Certainly more common sense than some others. But common sense is not enough, either.

    What is needed to make a stable society is Wisdom. I think that one finds a lot of that in the ancient teachings of the Tao-Te-Ching – and the I-Ching, also. To the extent that the Chinese can learn from those, I think they will do well. Confucius does not to me come across as very wise, although he was perhaps a good manager, and had some reasonable points.

    • Replies: @Lin
  159. @Joe Wong

    My old Dad established the lie of the ‘Tian An Men Square’ massacre within days, simply phoning friends and colleagues at news agencies and foreign correspondents in Beijing. Pretty soon Italian TV crews, and other Westerners affirmed that the Square was peacefully cleared early in the morning, while much gun-fire was heard in the vicinity.
    We know that the gun-fire was the ‘Colour Revolution’ (the prototype)going violent, as they all do at their climax, in the areas around the Square. The Chinese authorities put a quick end to that, but here in Austfailia we were inflicted with the sight of our Sabbat Goy PM, Hawke, blubbering about ‘peaceful students run over and over again until they were turned to mush’, and other hysterical lies, that are firmly held even to today. Even the Wikileaks US State Department cables that attest to NO massacre in the Square are simply ignored.

  160. Lin says:

    Your claim

    some twenty five thousand U.S. based corporations that left for China, taking the means of production, brain trusts and intellectual property rights with them. In doing so, once on Chinese soil, their CEO’s and board members surrendered countless man hours of both American ingenuity, innovation and R & D over to Chinese bureaucrats and the CCP

    and ebear’s claim

    As a thought experiment, try and picture China today without the last 40 years of:
    1. Massive US investment capital directed to Chinese export based industries.
    2. US owned multinational corporations relocating to China.
    3. An open door policy towards Chinese students at major US universities.

    basically want to convey the impression Chinese econ/industrial development is rooted in ‘American ingenuity, innovation and R & D over to Chinese’ and it also caused US manufacture decline.
    My message is:
    –Foreign investment has some roles to play as I mentioned, like Chinese auto industry;
    –But the whole thing, particularly the R&D part is vastly exaggerated and
    –The big bulk of development came from Chinese internal source/capital and china is under severe US tech embargo.
    ………….
    Well, did you say R&D? Here’re 2 good examples:
    https://www.dailymanagementreview.com/McDonald-s-To-Spend-More-On-Tech-And-R-D-In-2020_a6364.html.
    https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/green/reports/2017/05/15/432141/everything-think-know-coal-china-wrong/
    ………..
    I’m denying nothing: 2 instances of tech imports that had lasting effects on the respective industry:
    –China imported continuous casting tech from Japan in the 1980s which greatly increased yield in steel industry
    –China was able to make (subsonic)jet fighters (Mig15) in 1957 because of tech transfer from Russia
    ……
    While I sure understand your sentiment, I must remind you that
    –Unless if the yanks want to ban apparel imports and keep min wage seamtress jobs, those low value added jobs will go to countries like Bangladesh but might eventually handled by AI and robots.
    — Tech change is inevitable. The only way a developed country like US to generate new jobs is through adaptation, training ,education and social policy changes.

  161. China and Russia are actual nations. This is a polyglot boarding house of nothing. It is collapsing every way possible. Only consumerism holds it together. The constant incessant and assinine drumbeat of identity politics is sickening, destructive, stupid… The culture has been third world-ed , feminized, racialized.

    Do you really think that this stupid thing could really fight a real war against a real foe like Russia or China… The technology gap has closed to almost equal with China and Russia isn’t reading its troops Trangender story hour…

    So my socialist author… you are right.. adios America.

    • Thanks: Max Parry
  162. lloyd says: • Website
    @Ugetit

    FDR had actually been dead for four years. Did Godfree Roberts mean President Truman?

  163. lysias says:
    @Ugetit

    I think “1949” was a typo for “1945”. But in 1945 — and in 1946, for that matter– Mao was telling Americans whatever he thought they would like to hear, not necessarily what he actually believed.

  164. Lin says:
    @Thomas Faber

    Sure it’s a model and human behavior is a complicate thing.
    As a Christian(of alternative conviction) myself, the greatest contributions of Christianity are
    — promotion of monogamy.
    — denunciation of financial corruption(temple money changers and their modern day equivalents…)

    • Replies: @Lin
  165. @mikael_

    It looks a bit contradictory to write “massive layoffs of workers in state-owned enterprises” and in the next sentence “exploitation of rural migrant labour” – which one is it, too much or too little labor force?

    The size of the labor force was irrelevant. Inflation and massive layoffs were the triggers.

    who were the other 182 people? I suspect that their names were not released (to my knowledge) either to protect their families or to protect the government from embarrassment since many would have been infiltrated from Hong Kong.

    it the end it’s all third hand he-wrote-she-said stuff? Most of it is first-hand witness stuff.

  166. Jake says:
    @Max Parry

    The answer to your question is Yes, unless the question means that only Jews were prominent in each.

    The US, for example, had thousands of Trotskyist Marxists who came to hate the USSR because they felt that it had betrayed not merely Socialism but Jews specifically. Those Trotskyist Jews tended to become Neoconservatives who to this day HATE Russia.

  167. @Bill Jones

    “During World War II, ‘Yale in China’ was a primary instrument used by the U.S. Establishment and its Office of Strategic Services (OSS) to install the Maoists into power.

    Dear God. What self-important, deluded, counterfactual, semi-literate nonsense.

    • Agree: Max Parry
    • Replies: @Bill Jones
  168. Half Back says: • Website
    @Johnny Johnny

    TG said something the same,
    “It’s not just how big the economy is, or how many people there are. How much surplus does an economy produce beyond day-to-day subsistence? ”

    However China is by far the biggest producer on planet earth.
    China is number one in Exports to the rest of world , Second in imports , beaten by USA (1) and on trade balance rank is number one in the world with a net surplus of $429 billion. The USA is last in the world with a DEFICIT of -$923 billion for 2019.
    Anyway you can play around the world map and see the economic power countries have using this handy tool.
    https://globaledge.msu.edu/global-insights/by/country

    China could almost single handed bring the USA economically down by stipulating that all exports to the USA will have to be payed in Yuan instead of dollars however one would likely see the Yuan appreciate and so hurt exports to the rest of the world, however from a purely economic judgement it is best to have a strong currency especially for importing as opposed too a weak currency. Maybe the Chinese could go for exports settlement by half each , thereby dethroning King Dollar.

  169. Lin says:
    @Lin

    My typo: Should be Christ’s contribution.
    (Some people love to coin ‘homoglobal’; actually ”homoglobal’ finance was started by a ‘christian’ institution:The Knight Templar..)

  170. Pretty good summary from Parry. You neglected to mention the Dong of the 21st Century program though, which when fully implemented will seal the fate of the non-Asian races for eternity.

    For those not in the know, The Dong of the 21st Century is a sinister plot by the Asians to grow a bigger weenie for the Asian race through the use of stolen dindu schlong DNA implanted into mutant toaster babies. Thats why they always invite NBA players over there to their countries. They pretend to like basketball, but in reality they’re stealing the dindus schlong DNA when they’re not looking. They are seeking world domination and slavery of the lesser races once they have achieved this sinister goal of high IQ and huge schlongs. They killed Kobe Bryant for threatening to spill the beans on the program after he caught them in the act.

    Things are clearly looking up right now. The events of the past few months make this clear to anyone in the know. Recently we had black folk retaliating by beating elderly chinky folk senseless. Its obvious that the secret plot is out in the open now.

    Now today in Atlanta we have this guy killing chinky peoples at the rub and tugs. So we’re told anyway. Who knows, maybe this honkey might have been caught with his pants down and was set up by the NBA peoples. The mafia is known to be involved with these rub and tug establishments as well. Maybe the Asians were secretly stealing the schlong DNA of patrons to these places and selling it at a high profit to the Chicoms or Kim Jong Un and the mafia were getting stiffed on their cut or just wanted in on the profits?

    This guy could have just blew up from all his clean pants getting crapped in. Thats how the Asians like to get back at people who rub them the wrong way, they sneak in your house when you’re away and crap in all your clean pants. They did it to me on several occasions when I started talking about the Dong of the 21st Century. I would never harm some lovely ladies giving handjobs on the cheap though.

    Thats all I got to say about that. Things are getting too dangerous to talk about it nowdays..

  171. Biff says:
    @JohnPlywood

    China’s GDP per capita ($10,261) is a few hundred dollars more than Mexico’s ($9,946). USA $65,297 — China’s got a loooooooong way to go.

    That’s a good point. When the Chinese(Wal-mart’s factory) numbers get close to the U.S.(and they will) shopping at Wal-mart will take a second mortgage to afford it.

    • LOL: Iris
  172. This article is marred by willful naivete. He assumes that Mao, Stalin, and the like were ever motivated by something other than cynicism, egotism, and national interest. This isn’t to deny that Josef Stalin and Mao Zedong were sincere communists, but when dealing with the outside world, ideology and principles mattered far less than the realpolitik of gangsterism, also true of so-called ‘democracies’.

    As American economic power continues to decline, a division has emerged within the U.S. political establishment as to which of its designated adversaries is to blame for the country’s woes — Russia, or China.

    I’m not sure this has to do with ‘decline’. After all, whether US power was on the incline or decline, it has always sought out enemies, the new Big Bad Wolf against whom to justify American hegemonism. During the Cold War, there was endless talk of how the Soviets were gaining at America’s expense. No wonder that even as the Cold War had all but ended(with the US triumphant), some on the Right were insisting it was still on and as dangerous as ever.

    After the total demise of the Soviet Union, the US was as aggressive as ever, in some ways even more so. It’s boring to be the lone superpower even as the US insists on remaining just that. Not only lonesome but it poses to three problems for the superpower. Some people grow complacent in their country’s dominance. Others, no longer fearful of foreign enemies, obsess about domestic failings; if the Greatest Generation was focused on evil Germany & Japan, the better-off Boomers often obsessed over America’s own failings. Another problem is the lone superpower seems rather like a bully than a heroic underdog. This is why Mike Tyson’s opponents had to be hyped up as worthy of tangling with Iron Mike. With Tyson steamrolling the opposition, it got to seeming cruel and vicious. So, even in the absence of The Great Enemy, the US needs to prop up New Hitlers and New Germanies.

    The dispute came to a head during each of the last two presidential elections, with the Democratic Party first blaming Moscow for Hillary Clinton’s shocking defeat in 2016 over unproven “election meddling” by the Kremlin. After Joe Biden’s equally controversial victory over Donald Trump this past November, the GOP has retaliated by portraying the 46th president as “soft on China” just as their counterparts drew critical attention to Trump’s alleged ties to Russia — even though both men have taken tough stances toward each respective country.

    Actually, it’s misleading to say the 2020 election was ‘equally controversial’. 2016 election wasn’t controversial at all. Donald Trump ran not only against Hillary and the Democratic Party but much of the GOP establishment. All the media and the deep state were against him. The only ‘controversy’ was he won. He didn’t win dirty as his side simply didn’t have the ammo to do so. But he still won, and that was very upsetting to the Power. The whole Russia Thing was a fake controversy, made up out of whole cloth with total complicity of the big media and deep state. In contrast, the Power did everything to bury the REAL CONTROVERSY about the 2020 election. 2016 election was not controversial but made to seem so by the Power. 2020 was the most controversial election in US history and most certainly rigged, but the Power said there was NOTHING TO SEE, just go home, and forget about it. All speculations about election fraud were dismissed as ‘baseless’. And the Jewish-run Media pulled a U-North(the villainous company in MICHAEL CLAYTON) about election fraud.

    From MICHAEL CLAYTON – Tilda Swinton’s character of Karen: “It has been and it remains the U/North position… that this lawsuit is baseless and without merit.”

    The Jewish media oligarchs didi it for tribal-supremacist power. The media minions, the hirelings and little people, collaborated with the Big Lie out of the vain conceit that they, the cosmo-globalists, are the ‘adults in the room’ and the on the right side of History, therefore any means are justified to take out Trump and the Deplorables. Their conceit allows for moral-nihilism.

    As a result of this neo-McCarthyist political atmosphere, détente has been criminalized.

    Isn’t it time to bury this McCarthy nonsense? McCarthy was a tool. He was used by the Power but soon discarded when he probed into the US military. Also, even though anti-communism did sometimes get hysterical, the Soviet threat was not a fantasy(especially in Europe following WWII), and there were many spies and communist-sympathizers in key institutions. Also, so-called McCarthyism lasted a few years, and its crimes were nothing compared to wholesale ‘internment’ of Japanese-Americans during World War II.

    It’d be more accurate to call the current climate Foxmanism after the sleazebag who ran ADL for a long spell. Foxman and other Jews have been at the forefront of censchwarzhip and deplatforming all across the US and the West in general. And unlike McCarthyism that faded away sooner than later and was almost universally denounced, Foxmanism seems to go on and on and on. And if most in the media and many in government did what they could to bring McCarthy down, the key institutions now all comply with Jewish demands with no end.

    In order to understand what is driving this interwar between factions of the Anglo-American elite amid the rise of China and Russia on the world stage, a revisiting of the history of relations between the three nations is necessary.

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    Not really. History matters far less than ‘Thistory’. As most people are ignorant of history, they don’t know and don’t care about all that happened in the past. And this goes for the elites as well. Most of history is inert and irrelevant. It’s just stuff in books. What really matters is ‘thistory’, or this-history, which is how certain elements and aspects of history are selectively chosen, exaggerated, manipulated, and even fabricated into material to be used in the power game. Consider Afghanistan. For the longest time, most Americans had no idea where it was. But when the Soviet Union ‘invaded’, it was suddenly a noble tragic nation under Soviet tyranny. Afghans were lauded as a proud people who’s resisted invasion for their entire existence. And the Mujahideen were heralded as heroic freedom-fighters whose values were comparable to those of the American Founders. But after the Soviets were gone and the Taliban took over, Afghanistan was soon forgotten. The former freedom-fighters were regarded as cave-dwelling barbarians with no use for modernity and vice versa.
    When US and Japan were on good terms in the early 20th century, the latter was viewed rather positively as a progressive Asian nation of ‘honorary whites’, whereas China was seen as hopelessly backward and inept. But when US-Japanese relations became increasingly strained, the Chinese were the noble salt-of-the-earth(with the possibility of being converted to Christianity) whereas the Japanese because slanty-eyed nasty pagan buggers. But after WWII, Japan became the nice kindly nation of chrysanthemum-and-the-sword whereas China became the evil communist slave-state of the ‘blue ants’. But when China was useful against the Soviet Union in the early 70s, there were many glowing reports of Mao’s achievements. So, never mind History. What matters is Thistory.
    Same goes for the American Past. American History, though relatively short, is deeply complex and complicated. But the current Thistory frames everything in terms of White Guilt and Black Nobility. Jewish History is also complicated, and there were as many cases of Jewish evil as well as Jewish goodness. But, Jews push their own Thistory that selects and arranges History to make themselves the innocent victims while all the blame goes to white goyim or Arab goyim.

    From the first millennia until the 19th century, China was one of the world’s foremost economic powers.

    But here’s a key difference. However big China’s economy may have been through much of history, China was never a world power because it never aspired to be one. Even at its peak, it was a self-contained power. With its population, it could have grabbed much of Siberia. But China didn’t even try to take over Korea or Japan. If anything, it eventually got conquered by the semi-barbarian Manchus. It’s been said China and Vietnam were at war for a thousand yrs, but Vietnam remained independent. The Asians who did aspire to be a world power were the Mongols, and they conquered China first. But rule by brutality lasts only so long.

    In contrast to Chinese power, which was self-contained, European power truly became a world power, especially with the mastery of the seas, the conquest of the Americas, and power of science/technology. As such, it posed a challenge and threat to other peoples and civilizations. It also conceived of a new way of progress unknown to non-Western folks.

    Unfortunately, the Western attitude toward China remains stuck in the ‘century of humiliation’ where from the mid-19th century until the Chinese Revolution in 1949, it was successively raped and plundered by the Western, Japanese, and Russian imperial powers.

    This may be partly true in the sense that the West, so used to seeing China as a poor and backward nation, is unprepared and unwilling to deal with it on an equal basis. China seems especially unsettling because it has a combination of key advantages. It’s a big country. Unlike any European nation, it can be seen as an empire unto itself. Even without overseas empires, China is a major power. Also, China has lots of people, indeed more than all of Europe and US combined. Also, China has lots of high-IQ folks. Furthermore, it’s relatively homogeneous, thus united. Finally, its government, unlike that of Japan or Taiwan, is totally independent of the West. In contrast, Russia is larger than China and has more natural resources but has a much smaller population. Russians also lack the work ethic of East Asians. European nations are prosperous, but each on its own cannot constitute a world power. Even UK and France lost world power status following the loss of empires. There is the EU, but its authority is unclear and confused. As such, it functions as a satellite of the US that is, in turn, a colony of the Empire of Judea, currently the premier power in the world.

    Anyway, it could be that the old perception of China as the ‘Sick Man of Asia’ prevents the West from respecting China’s role on the world stage. In other words, the West is willing to accept China as a virtuous nation of simple peasant folks, like in THE GOOD EARTH, but not as citizens of a great power. It’s like Americans were okay with Japanese growing rich by selling radios and motorbikes but unnerved by Tokyo’s aspirations to take center stage as the economic capital of the world. (To be sure, Chinese would be smart to play up aspects of Pearl-Buckism. After all, overt display of power can be off-putting. This is why Jews, despite their great power, emphasize the narrative of poor helpless Jews hiding from the Nazis. And blacks play up their ‘we was slaves’ card as moral cover for their arrogance and megalomania. Thus, even as Jews exert tremendous power around the world, they are seen as a bunch of Anne Franks. And even as blacks burn down cities and commit all kinds of mayhem, they are regarded as ‘victims of racism’. Strong Horse of power isn’t enough. It needs to be combined with the Sacred Cow of victimhood.)

    One reason for Western resistance to rising Chinese power could owe to the lack of visceral advantage among the Chinese, or yellows in general. Indeed, consider the distaste among white Americans in regards to Asian success even as they are totally approving of Jewish wealth & success and black fame & fortune. To whites, there can never be Too Many Jews in any industry or institution. And there can never be Too Many Blacks. If elite NY schools were dominated by Jews and blacks, no one would complain. But Too Many Asians in schools is a problem… though the problem is always said to be ‘white privilege’.
    Why are whites and Westerners in general open to total Jewish and black domination but disdainful of Asian success? It’s due to ‘viscerality’, which operates on the individual-idolatrous level. Black individuals have made their mark as sports athletes, entertainers, dancers, studs, and orators. Thus, whites have come to idolize blacks as a special, even superior, race on the idolatrous level even as they ideologically mutter platitudes about ‘equality’. Being so worshipful of blacks, whites consider it an honor to kneel at their feet and carry their jock-straps. So, companies scramble to get a black CEO. White women look to Michelle Obama as some demigoddess. Even the lowly punk George Floyd was eulogized to high heaven by Donald Trump.
    Jews, though no good at sports, have also made their mark as individuals. They are funny, pushy, loud, brash, witty, feisty, and etc. While Mr. T. could whup Don Rickles’ ass, the latter could outtalk anyone, and Jews have been the masters of gab. So, white folks, so often outwitted and ‘owned’ by Jews, feel it’s their honorable duty to suck up to them. This is why even Dissident Rightist fools cling to the hope that Jews will ultimately be converted to siding with the White Race. People are wowed by ‘leadership’ qualities, and blacks dominate sports & entertainment, and Jews are visibly brilliant as lawyers, officials, academics, and pundits. So, whites have grown accustomed to serving under those two groups as the natural-leader races.
    In contrast, Asian success and power are cumulative than individual. Asian power is lean on champion-like figures and operates more like a herd or hive. People prefer the individual champion qualities. It’s like a lion gets more respect than a pack of hyenas. Or a bear gets more respect than a pack of dogs. When whites lost to blacks, it was a black individual like Jack Johnson or Muhammad Ali beating up white palookas. It was like a bunch of white chimps lost to a big black gorilla. But when the US ‘lost’ in Vietnam, it was like whites finally gave up on dealing with so many Asian ants and mosquitos. A lone gorilla has a face and towers like King Kong on the phallic tower. But no matter how formidable ants or mosquitos can be, they are regarded as pests. Black power and Jewish Power have faces. But Asian Power is a faceless bloc of unity and cooperation. White people may kneel before the black gorilla or Jewish wolverine, but they don’t want to kneel before the Chinese locusts. When the audience watched King Kong, they saw it as tragedy. But who cares about the bees in THE SWARM? Indeed, as if cognizant of these impressions, some Japanese guy made a anime movie TWILIGHT OF THE COCKROACHES where the Japanese are presented as bugs tolerated by US power(represented by humans).

    By the way, Pearl Buck was very sympathetic toward China, and if anything, THE GOOD EARTH on balance did wonders for the Chinese in Western eyes. It humanized them, much like THE GRAPES OF WRATH did for the Okies and other poor white folks during the Great Depression.
    The prevailing view of China among the ‘conservatives’ owe less to Pearl Buck than Pearl Harbor. Though Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, Asia has long been seen as the Other by many in the West. So, ‘Pearl Harbor’ is like a metaphor. It could be Japan, it could be China. Or, it could be North Korea, what with ridiculous fantasies about the Norks nuking L.A., or the remake of RED DAWN that would have the audience believe that North Korea, with an economy 1/40th of South Korea, could invade whole swaths of American territory. Current view of China also owes more to FLASH GORDON. It’s Ming-the-Merciless fantasy, with some Fu Manchu thrown in.

    Another reason is actually due to cowardice. White America’s ‘courageous’ stance toward China is actually the byproduct of its cravenness before Jews, blacks, and even homos. It’s like what Ramzpaul says in this video:


    Whites have been so instilled with ‘white guilt’ over ‘antisemitism’ and ‘slavery'(and white fever for black badassness and Jewish genius) that they dare not mouth anything critical of the two groups that are doing the most harm to the white race. Blacks run amok, rape, riot, and loot, but White America bleats about ‘systemic racism’ and gushes about Magic Negroes. Jews push agendas to destroy the white race and the West, but every Western Nation grovels at the feet of Jews. Even after the BLM lunacy, the American ‘conservative’ idea of courage is to attack Democrats as the ‘real racists’, and even after Jews have done so much to harm the white race, the GOP’s position is ‘we stand for Israel more than Democrats do’.
    In such a climate of chickenshit cowardice, whites can show their ‘courage’ only by attacking anything other than Jews, blacks, and homos(favored allies of Jews). And China is the perfect target because it is (1) big and growing more powerful (2) autocratic and repressive (3) relatively homogeneous (4) without power to affect discourse in the US (5) without protection of Jewish Power. Whereas Jewish Power will descend with fury on those who dare criticize Jewish Power, condemn black behavior, or denigrate homosexual activity, it tolerates most of the animus directed at China. Indeed, the Jewish-run media conglomerate signals approval for China-bashing. It’s a clever way of making goyim do most of the bashing while keeping Jewish hands relatively clean so as to work with China.
    Now, why would Jews who work with China, often against the interests of white America, allow white America to bash China? It’s a way of killing two birds with one stone. By working with China, Jews further weaken white power in the West. But by allowing whites to vent their rage at China, the criticism is deflected from Jews. Now, the US has a sizable Chinese minority, so why don’t they do something about this? Because yellows are lackluster as individuals and lack verbal fireworks. Also, with a sheepish and servile racial personality, they always look to serve the prevailing power. So, even as blacks attack yellows in Chinatowns in NY and SF, the yellows go with the approved narrative and blame ‘white nationalism’. In a way, yellows and whites are becoming rather alike. Blacks beat yellows, and yellows blame whites. Jews and blacks beat on whites, and whites blame yellows. It’s all kinda embarrassing.

    Even at the peak of the Roman Empire, the Han dynasty where the ancient Silk Road began was vastly larger in territory and population.

    But size isn’t everything. In terms of quality, would anyone rate traditional China even at its peak higher than classic Athens or Northern Italy of the Renaissance? True, through a vast bureaucracy and complex organizations, China was able to carry out giant projects, but in doing so, it snuffed out much individual spark. Neither Athens nor Florence at its peak could match the sheer size of China but it created sparks that eventually allowed the West to burn brighter.
    Soviet Union proved that vast state-run projects could produce awesome results. The steel factories, the giant dams, the missiles, and etc. But because Stalinism extinguished individual spark, the system gradually imploded under its own weight. Also, in an excessively unfree system, no one feels responsible to anything but higher authority. No one feels responsible on account of conscience or principle. This explains the hopeless rot of China in the 19th century and Soviet Union from the 60s onward. People had done things out of fear of authority, but once the authority grew corrupt, lax, and inefficient, people just became parasites looking out for themselves. Fear works when it’s absolute. If you don’t do as told, you will be punished harshly, even killed. So, you do it. Another way you might do something is out of freedom and reward. As you have no fear, you take chances to succeed in life. But Soviet Union from the 60s onward was a semi-fear state. There was just enough fear for people to keep their heads low and not take chances with freedom, but there wasn’t enough fear to make people do what they were told. Imagine a slave state without the whip. The slaves are still punished if they try to run or rebel, BUT they’re no longer whipped for acting lazy and hardly picking cotton. Most slaves will just pretend to work and do little as possible. So, if you want things to get done, there has to be real freedom or true fear.

    The former Chinese Empire underwent its ‘hundred years of humiliation’ after suffering a series of military defeats in the Opium Wars which funded Western industrialization…

    Chinese could have avoided all this with a humbler attitude. When the West initially arrived on friendly terms bearing gifts of superior technology, the Chinese could have shown curiosity and reacted with humility and admiration. Surely, a people who could build such ships, travel the seas, and make such gadgets must be doing something right. But the Chinese were arrogant and lazy in their chauvinism and missed their chance. Before the Opium Wars happened, China had racked up huge trade surpluses with the West. West bought lots of tea and silk whereas Chinese bought little. With that surplus, Chinese could have invested in technology. But they built stupid palaces for the lazy rich. Also, as China had fallen under the imperialist power of the Manchus(who eventually melded into China), it had already been under foreign rule for a few centuries before the British and others arrived. Indeed, it was Manchu domination that suppressed the emergence of genuine Chinese nationalism that could have more effectively dealt with the threat from the West.

    Like Russia which lagged behind Europe after the Industrial Revolution until the Soviet centralized plans of the 1930s, China was able to transform its primarily agricultural economy into an industrial giant after its communist revolution in 1949.

    But Russia made great strides in industrialization prior to the communist-takeover. It lagged behind Germany and UK but had made great strides. If anything, the first decade of Bolshevism was a total economic disaster for Russia. And when Stalin finally got the ball rolling in the mid-30s, it was at huge human cost.
    As for China, it’s simply not true that industrialization came with Mao’s revolution. Japan already proved that an Asian nation could industrialize without anything resembling communism. Japan followed the 19th century German model, and it served as the model for other Asian nations. If anything, communist China far lagged behind Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, and Hong Kong in industrialization. Even into the late 80s, most Chinese got around on foot or on bicycles called the ‘flying pigeon’. Mao’s Great Leap Forward was a massive leap backward. If Stalin’s mass killings at least led to industrial development, Mao’s disaster not only took tens of millions lives but set back China’s industry. And then, there wasn’t much economic advancement during the hellish years of the Cultural Revolution when agrarian reforms under Liu-Deng were turned back and when Chinese colleges were turned into centers of struggle sessions. Many educated Chinese at this time spent time on farms ‘learning from the peasants’.

    True industrial transformation for China came with Deng’s reforms, and China looked to capitalist East Asian nations that were close to the US. Also, let’s keep in mind that, unlike European imperialist powers that suppressed industrialization in their colonies, the US as new hegemon allowed industrialization in their satellite nations, most notably in East Asia. Of course, the Soviet Union also encouraged industrialization in Warsaw Pact nations and supplied them with raw materials while purchasing their products. Neo-Imperialism by US and USSR was more generous than the Old Imperialism of Europe. But then, whereas US and USSR were bountifully blessed with raw materials, much smaller Western European nations weren’t.

    The real turning point in Sino-Soviet relations came when… Khrushchev… began to discourage movements in the developing world living under Western-backed dictatorships from taking up arms in revolutionary struggle.
    …China… accused the Soviet Union of “revisionism” for prioritizing world peace and preventing a nuclear war over support for national liberation movements, becoming the de facto leader of ‘Third Worldism’ against Western imperialism. Moscow reciprocated by freezing aid to China which greatly damaged its economy and relations soured between the world’s two biggest socialist countries, transforming the the Cold War into a tri-polar conflict already multifaceted with the Non-Aligned Movement led by Yugoslavia after Josep Broz Tito’s falling out with Stalin.

    Not really. The way Max Parry explains it, it would seem governments are motivated more by ideology, principles, and dogma than by realpolitik. Especially when it comes to foreign affairs, regimes act like gangsters. Communist regimes practiced Machiavelli more than Marx on the world stage. Who can forget the Nazi-Soviet Pact?
    Khrushchev’s thaw with the US had little to do with Third World movements. It was almost entirely about Europe. Though the US(and UK) intended to neutralize German and Japanese military power indefinitely, the USSR feared that the West would rearm Germany against the USSR. Even as a puppet of the US, a militarized Germany could pose a threat to Russia, no small matter considering the horrors that befell the USSR in WWII. Also, even though US and USSR emerged as the two great victors of WWII, there really was no comparison. US was unscathed whereas USSR had to recover from utter devastation. Among young working adults, the Soviet population was 2/3 women because so many men had died. USSR was a republic of orphans. Also, despite obtaining the Bomb and all its bluffs, the USSR was woefully behind the US in missile gap. In an all-out nuclear war in the 1950s, the US would have won hands down. USSR could barely feed itself after the war, and besides, it had to take care of its satellite states in Eastern Europe. Its one advantage over the US was its proximity to Western Europe. In an all-out land invasion, the Soviet Union could conceivably overpower all of Europe, but then, it would lead to World World III that could very well involve nuclear weapons. So, the Soviet Union wanted to calm things down with the US. It needed to rebuild itself from the rubble of war. It needed to consolidate its grip over Eastern Europe that looked upon Soviet Union as oppressor than liberator. To the outside world, the Soviet Union presented itself as far more formidable than it actually was after WWII. Inside the USSR, people knew there were massive problems. Khrushchev knew of the disadvantages and vulnerabilities. He knew the uncensored truth from the inside. So, the proposed thaw with the West wasn’t about ideological betrayal but bidding for time. Also, having served under Stalin, Khrushchev was well-aware of the human toll of communism and hoped there might be a more humane form of socialism that could co-exist with the capitalist world.

    But Mao saw things differently, and it had less to do with principles or dogma than suspicion bordering on paranoia. After all, Mao’s road to power had been grueling, strewn with so many double-crosses. And prior to the Bolshevik Revolution, Russia was one of the predatory powers over China. And even after the Bolshevik Revolution, Stalin had tried numerous times to replace Mao with a Moscow-trained figure. USSR also swallowed up Mongolia as a satellite state and, prior to Mao’s victory, willfully occupied territories in China much like the US does today in Syria. Of course, back then, it was to Mao’s benefit that Russia violated China’s territorial integrity and provided a haven for the Chinese communists from the clutches of the KMT. Still, Mao was well-aware of Sino-Russian History. Not good. And despite his fealty to Stalin, there was also a lot of bad blood.

    So, even though Khrushchev didn’t mean to betray China, Mao was super-suspicious because of both political and personal histories. Also, smarting from the Korean War where China won lots of prestige but at great cost, he was in no mood to deal with the US, not least because of the Taiwan issue. Furthermore, Mao greatly overestimated the power of the USSR. Being an outsider, he took a good deal of Soviet propaganda at face value. Why should a superpower like the USSR not be bolder with the US?
    Khrushchev knew the reality from the inside and was well-aware of the weaknesses. US controlled all the seas. US had many more nukes. It was unscathed in WWII and had by far the biggest industry in the world and was the leader in science and technology. It had plenty of food and stuff. US also had the richest and most powerful European nations on its side. While the Soviet Union looked dominant on the map, most of Siberia was uninhabited. Eastern European nations were backward relative to the West. And huge areas of the USSR were still being rebuilt from war and deprivations caused under Stalin.

    Khrushchev was trying to walk a fine line between superpower bluff and cautious pragmatism. He knew Soviet prestige depended on show of power and pride. Communist propaganda tirelessly featured images of marching soldiers, tanks & airplanes, and endless fields of wheat. In reality, the Soviet system was just barely providing basic necessities to its citizens. Khrushchev himself embodied these contradictions. He could be awfully proud and tempestuous. A volatile figure, he could harangue the West along with the best of them. But he was also a survivor and, in trying to buy time to create a more humane form of socialism, he tried to negotiate with the US, especially over Germany. But it wasn’t easy because he couldn’t resist sticking it to the US when the opportunity arose, like with the U2 incident that was deeply humiliating to Eisenhower’s administration.

    By the mid-50s, Khrushchev had already experienced nearly 40 yrs of communist rule in the Soviet Union. He knew what the revolution had done to the elites and the people. He’d witnessed the casualties as well as the gains of the revolution. He’d seen so many of his comrades crushed by Stalin, and he’d also taken part in this bloodbath out of zeal or to survive. Also, prior to Stalin’s death, he’d always played the role of flunky. So, he understood the danger of absolute power. He lived under it, was humiliated by it, and survived it.
    In contrast, Mao had been the top figure in Chinese communism once it took hold in the countryside. Mao was used to ordering others around, not being ordered around. Also, Chinese communists came to power in 1949, 32 years after the Russian Revolution. In 1955, he’d been the supreme leader of China for only 6 yrs. So, his enthusiasm level was much greater. He was flush with dreams of great things. Thus, he had a bolder approach to the West, though his talk about atom bomb being a ‘paper tiger’ was mostly bluff.
    At any rate, Mao could talk this way, that is recklessly, because if it came to World War III, the Soviet Union would have to do most of the fighting and bear the brunt of US’s main nuclear attack. It’s easier to talk tough from behind. In contrast, Khrushchev was face to face with the US(and things later got really dangerous with the Cuban Missile Crisis). Maybe for Mao, it was revenge for what the USSR put him through during the Korean War when China was ill-equipped to face off against the biggest industrial power in the world.

    But all said and done, Mao feared that Russia as a white power was inching closer to the US as a white power to stab yellow China in the back. It was unfounded fear on Mao’s part, but given the history of white imperialism in Asia, surely understandable. So, Mao threw whatever monkey wrench he could find at the notion of ‘peaceful co-existence’ with the West. Likewise, hawks and hardline anti-communist elements in the US made did all they could to undermine any peace deal with Russia and Red China. Mao worded his concerns in terms of ideology and world revolution, but he was really concerned with China and his rule over it. Besides, most anti-imperialist movements weren’t communist, and some were staunchly anti-communist. It wasn’t a cut-and-dry affair of leftist Third World vs rightist capitalist West. If anything, by promoting communist insurgencies around the world, the USSR faced the danger of alienating Third World nations that resisted Western Imperialism but weren’t partial to communism. So, the Soviet Union had to be flexible, even delicate, in forming alliances, especially in the Muslim World that wasn’t so keen on secular radicalism.

    As to why Soviet ended aid to China, it had to do with Mao’s increasing megalomania and recklessness both at home and before the world community. Notwithstanding the partial re-militarization of Japan, tensions over Taiwan, and the aftershocks of the Korean War, China was not the main target in America’s crosshairs. It was the Soviet Union, which wasn’t prepared for an all-out war. Even if Soviets could take most of Europe, it’d be more trouble than its worth as Soviets would have to rule over and take care of entire nations that would seethe with resentment and hatred. Indeed, the great paradox of communism was that the biggest true believers were found in non-communist nations. There, the useful idiots could fantasize about Workers’ Paradise when, in fact, conditions under communism weren’t so great for the daily worker. Consider the French movie EAST-WEST where a bunch of naive Western Intellectuals emigrate to the Soviet Union to live in utopia only to be met with brutal repression. Indeed, the Soviets were loathe to take in defectors who’d finally get a glimpse of the REAL LIFE under communism and discover it made the capitalist West, for all its faults, seem like paradise.

    The propaganda war was a far more daunting challenge for the Soviet Union. China merely needed to play the Third World card whereas Soviets had to play both First World and Third World cards. It was well-understood around the world that China was a poor country. If anything, its poverty was a point of solidarity with the Third World. In contrast, the Soviet Union had to present itself as a First World competitor with the US. In other words, it wasn’t only the land of the proles and champion of the oppressed around the world BUT a system that could compete with the West in providing modernity and prosperity. This is why Richard Nixon made much of America’s dominance in TV’s, refrigerators, and automobiles. USSR spoke a lot about the Worker, but was the average wage-earner better off under communism or capitalism? As Red China was just getting started, it wasn’t in competition with the West in the living-standards and consumer goods department. In contrast, when Khrushchev said, “We will bury you”, he meant not only in great power terms but in mass production of goods and services. In truth, however, the Soviet Union had a bigger refrigerator gap than the missile gap with the West. And Khrushchev, having worked in the communist economy, knew of its problems and limitations.

    This is why the Soviets urged Mao to go slow and be pragmatic so as not to repeat the mistakes of the USSR. You can’t turn earth into heaven into one fell swoop. Soviets provided aid and experts to facilitate development in China, but Mao the peasant-dreamer just wouldn’t listen. He threw caution to the winds and embarked on the disastrous Great Leap Forward with boasts of how China would leap over not only UK but the US in so many years.
    Also, Mao made adventurist claims about Soviet achievements that irritated Russians to no end. While the Soviets were awfully proud of their head start in the space race, they knew the US had more ammo in the long haul. For the Soviets, the competition was a matter of inches. But when Soviets sent up a satellite, Mao proclaimed the East is prevailing over the West. It was beyond bluff. It was guff.

    But worst of all, it was a matter of personalities. Though Khrushchev was erratic, he was not without human qualities and something like a conscience. Also, he began as a prole and made his mark through hard work. As such, he didn’t despise the common man and, if anything, was saddened by the great loss of life under Stalinism… though he too had plenty of blood on his hands. In contrast, Mao grew up despising the peasantry. He fancied himself a thinker, poet, philosopher. He regarded himself as made for great things. Like Hitler, he saw himself as a man of destiny. As such, people were mere tools and pawns. He was like a communist Harry Lime(of THE THIRD MAN). He found communism useful as an insta-hammer of history. Capitalism, good or bad, took time to develop — it’s like it took capitalist Jews longer to take power in the US than it took for communist Jews in Russia, but then, capitalism proved to be far more useful to Jews, just like capitalism is finally pushing China ever higher, perhaps to the top. In contrast, Leninism meant ruthless organization, revolutionary will, and power with guns & force. For Mao, communism was a tool of using the masses, not serving them. They were expendable. As ‘Mao’ says to ‘Nixon’ in Oliver Stone’s film, “The evil is within us; history is a symptom of our disease.”
    The person in the CCP who was most like Khrushchev was Peng Dehuai who, alone among prominent figures during the Great Leap Forward, blamed Mao for the disaster. Granted, Khrushchev had no such courage during Stalin’s reign, but the Secret Speech, for all its faults and omissions, was a means to come to terms with the great crimes committed under Stalin. This is where Mao and Khrushchev could never see eye to eye. Mao was a monstrous god-man whereas Khrushchev, for all his bluster and arrogance, wasn’t without human qualities and something resembling conscience.
    Indeed, the seeds of the eventual fallout between Mao and Khrushchev were planted right after Stalin died because Khrushchev tried to be the good guy. Customarily, Mao should paid Khrushchev a visit after Stalin’s death because USSR was the premier power. But Khrushchev decided to go see Mao. Also, he understood that Stalin had abused his position with Mao and wanted to right those wrongs. He adjusted policy so that China would feel more on equal terms with the USSR. Now, if Mao had some human qualities, he would have appreciated the gestures and reciprocated, but just like Hitler, he regarded decency in others as weakness to exploit and trample on. He began to put on airs, show disdain toward Khrushchev, bait the USSR over trifles, ramp up unnecessary tensions with the West, and ignore all advice on economic matters. Anyone with half-a-sense would have known the Great Leap would be a total disaster. Also, Mao began to act like he’s the new Stalin, the new god of communism. At some point, Khrushchev had just about enough. While not blameless, 80-90% of the Soviet rift must be blamed on Mao’s impetuosity and megalomania, which would soon bring about the Cultural Revolution as if China didn’t suffer enough already. Mao was a wrecker alright.

    By the way, the fact that the Chinese economy dramatically improved right after the Great Leap was abandoned and limited market reforms were implemented goes to show that the massive suffering from 1958 to 1961 owed mostly to Mao’s craziness than Soviet withdrawal of aid. China was soon able to feed itself again once the Great Leap ended even though Soviet aid and experts didn’t return.

    As the PRC continued to break from… USSR’s deviation from Marxism-Leninism, China… took the anti-Soviet policies a step further by condemning the USSR as “social imperialist”… This led to several huge missteps in foreign policy and a complete betrayal of internationalism, as China aligned with the U.S. in support of UNITA against the MPLA in the Angolan civil war, the CIA-backed Khmer Rouge genocidaires in Cambodia against Vietnam, and the fascist Augusto Pinochet regime in Chile… Richard Nixon and his war criminal Secretary of State Henry Kissinger were received as guests in 1972. Despite the initial reasons for the Sino-Soviet split, it was ironically the Soviet Union which ended up carrying the mantle of national liberation as the USSR backed numerous socialist revolutions in the global south while China sided with imperialism.

    This is a cartoon view of history. It’s not as if the world was made up of evil US, good USSR, and noble Third World struggling for justice. Soviet Union constituted an imperialism in its own right. Poles, Hungarians, and Czechs certainly thought so. Baltic states felt imprisoned in the Soviet Union. And communist exports led to repression and even mass killings on an unprecedented scale. It was certainly true in Mao’s China. It’s true enough the US did horrible things and supported regimes that carried out mass killings. But so did the USSR. And despite the puppet-status of nations like Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan, they offered more freedom and opportunity for their own peoples than communist nations like China, North Korea, and Mongolia.

    Also, opportunism was part of Chinese foreign policy from day one. Though ideologically favoring communists the world over, China was friendly with non- and even anti-communist nations as long as they shared common interests. But in the end, the main reason why USSR took the lead in ‘world revolution’ was it had a bigger economy and had more to offer. China under Mao was poor and backward. All it could offer was some rice, cabbage, and AK-47s. Even Third World nations that identified more with China were better off siding with the more advanced Soviet Union. Cuban economy did pretty well with Soviet aid, but what could China offer? Little more than rhetoric and the Little Red Book.
    Also, Mao nursed territorial grievances with the Soviet Union. Imperial Russia had taken whole chunks of China and they weren’t returned under communism. Also, the vast borderlands between the two nations made both deeply nervous, and hostilities broke out. As the Soviets had overwhelming technological advantage, China usually got the worst of the exchange, and this made Mao angrier. So, it all became very personal. It’s not so much that China ‘betrayed’ the world revolution as the Sino-Soviet rift rippled across the world stage. As China regarded Russia as the imperialist threat, it was resolved to undermine Soviet influence anywhere in the world. China also worried that Vietnam would grow closer to Russia. Even though China provided the most aid to Vietnam in the war against the US, it feared that Vietnam would lean toward the Soviets that could offer more in terms of technological knowhow, and these fears were soon realized upon the unification of Vietnam. As for the Khmer Rouge working with the CIA, that happened AFTER the Vietnamese invasion of Cambodia. Initially, the Khmer Rouge came to power against the CIA-backed Lon Nol regime. Mao gave them his blessing as true revolutionaries. But the Khmer Rouge were not only insane ultra-communists but ultra-zealous nationalists who wanted to take back territories lost to Vietnam centuries ago. This led to border conflicts with Vietnam and then eventual invasion by Vietnam. It was only then that the Khmer Rouge began to work with the CIA on the basis of ‘enemy of your enemy is your friend’, but that’s always been the case. As for Pinochet, he was no fascist but a mere reactionary puppet of the propertied class. He lacked the vision of Mussolini and Hitler. Not that Mussolini and Hitler were good fascists. Mussolini was about Ridiculous Fascism, and Hitler was about Ludicrous Fascism. Neither was about True Fascism based on National Humanism, and so they failed. At any rate, Pinochet was just one of the many run-of-the-mill third-rate dictators around the world. Were they all ‘fascists’? Or, is someone a ‘fascist’ if he comes to power by taking out a leftist or Marxist? At any rate, how many did Pinochet kill? A few thousand? And to his credit, he paved the way for successful economic recovery and return to democracy. He was less repressive and murderous than most tyrants, and the only reason he came to be so loathed was because Allende was a darling of the Western Left when the hated Nixon was president.

    While it’s true that Nixon and Kissinger have blood on their hands, how else do you fight a war? Ho Chi Minh and other revolutionaries also had blood on their hands. Che Guevara welcomed the cleansing fire of WWIII and wanted the Cuban Missile Crisis to escalate into a nuclear war.
    The fact is Nixon and Kissinger, like Johnson and McNamara, inherited a conflict in Vietnam because Dwight Eisenhower meddled there when the French were on the ropes. Though Vietnamese were justified in in struggling to reunify their country, the US couldn’t simply walk away from an ally during the height of the Cold War. Likewise, once the Soviets went all in on Afghanistan, it was difficult to pull out and risk looking weak, defeated by a bunch of cave-dwelling nomads.

    As for Soviet involvement in Africa, what a disaster. As Che Guevara soon discovered during his African tour, blacks can’t be taken seriously. All that Soviet aid in Mozambique, Angola, and Ethiopia did no good. They were all wasted. Also, whereas US foreign aid was based on surplus and over-abundance — every year, even during the Great Depression, the problem was in the US was over-production — , the Soviet Union with empty shelves could ill-afford foreign aid, especially with basketcase parts of the world. Of course, the US supported cutthroat bandits to attack and undermine those regimes, but the regimes themselves were utterly rotten.
    Indeed, communism would have done better with a healthy dose of rational race-ism. Then, Russians would have realized that not all peoples are alike or interchangeable. Blacks have their own way of doing things. All the aid poured into Africa was lost. But then, the West discovered the same thing, though it keeps making the same mistakes. Tons of aid and the same misery.

    Ultimately, mistakes were made by both sides that are recognized by the two countries today, as can be seen in the Communist Party of the Russian Federation’s negative historical view of Khrushchev and the denunciation of the Cultural Revolution and Gang of Four by the CPC (not “CCP”).

    Blaming Khrushchev for the demise of the USSR is foolish. His reign was short-lived, and the long decline happened under those who ousted him. At the very least, Khrushchev tried to do something different. It caused problems but also created possibilities. But that spark was lost under the long mummified tenure of Brezhnev and co.
    As for the Gang of Four, they were mere tools of Mao. They never had much power, just like Antifa is little more than street enforcers of the Jews. The so-called Gang of Four was only as powerful as Mao needed it to be. When no longer useful, they were tossed aside. It was Mao all along. Blaming the Gang of Four is like blaming the Rosato Brothers than Hyman Roth in THE GODFATHER PART 2. Mao ruined relations with the Soviet Union. Mao had Zhou En-Lai call in Nixon. But because Mao has such a godly presence in CCP lore, it’s convenient to scapegoat the Gang of Four. The Gang was loathsome but wielded power only with Mao’s approval.

    China has since even apologized to Angola for its support of Jonas Savimbi.

    Again, pure realpolitik. It has nothing to do with principles. It’s just mouthing the necessary platitudes to do business. Had Savimbi prevailed in Angola, Chinese would be making nice with him or his successors. Reading anything other than opportunism into 99% of foreign policy is a fool’s game.

    …the break in political relations with Moscow also set the process in motion for China to develop its own interpretation of Marxism-Leninism that diverged from the Soviet model and eventually allowed a level of private enterprise which never occurred under the USSR…

    It had nothing to do with ideology. Chinese turn to capitalism didn’t flow from an alternative interpretation of Marxism but from pure exhaustion, desperation, and pragmatism. After the two whammies of the Great Leap and the Cultural Revolution, many Chinese were burnt out on ideology. They just about had enough, not least the Red Guards themselves as many of them had been sent off to work on farms. And historians now think Deng followed than led, i.e. as systems of control deteriorated during the Cultural Revolution and the economy got so bad, peasants took the initiative and began to work their own plots of land and sell their surplus. It had nothing to do with ideology but Chinese small-business enterprise spirit. CCP could have clamped down on this but decided to run with it as a last ditch effort to revive the economy. Also, China came to eye Singapore with special interest: An autocratic system that balanced socialism and capitalism and grew rich. And of course, China couldn’t help but notice the economic gains of Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, and etc. Of course, CCP rationalized the new policy in Marxist-sounding terms, but it had nothing to do with Marxism one way or another. It’s likely that when Lee Kuan Yew met with Deng and others, he had private conversations to set them straight along the lines of, “We Chinese smart people. We good at math and work hard. Communism no make good use of big talent in China. Smart people better to make computer than shovel dung.” The cat need not be red. Any colored cat is useful if it catches mice. Of course, CCP talks the talk about ‘social justice’, but it probably got some pointers about race realism from the likes of Lee.

    When the Soviet Union dissolved, the tentative US–China alliance effectively ended and Sino-Russian rapprochement began. But what prevented the PRC from going the same route as the Eastern Bloc? Why did Deng succeed and Gorbachev fail?

    Several factors explain this. Precisely because China was far poorer than the Soviet Union in the 1980s, Chinese had far lower expectations and did anything to survive and earn whatever they could. The scrounged, scratched, and struggled. They took nothing for granted and appreciated every tiny opportunity and every last morsel. Thus, Chinese made the most of their newfound freedoms, limited as they were.
    In contrast, even though life in the Soviet Union was impoverished by Western standards, its citizens had a reasonably comfortable existence. They took jobs, wages, housing, and other amenities for granted. So, they were less desperate and had less fight/struggle in them. When Gorbachev came along and experimented with reforms, many thought communism/socialism would be replaced with instant prosperity of market economies in the West. Or, communism would make way for functional social-democracy. What they saw of the West was freedom and consumerism. Russians thought freedom = good life. But in fact, the West was richer not simply due to more freedom but lots of hard work. (If it took Soviet painters two weeks to paint a house, it took two days for those in the West.) The real formula was freedom + work ethic. Mere freedom leads to anarchy or lethargy. Freedom has to be contained and used properly. It’s like Northern Italians make better use of freedom than Southern Italians. When Minnesota was almost all white and largely Scandinavian, it made good use of freedom. But when lots of blacks ended up there, freedom was used for criminality or parasitism. Russians thought freedom would lead to riches falling from the sky. They failed to understand that freedom meant they would have to take individual responsibility and work harder.
    Under the Soviet System, things got built under Stalin because he used the whip. He ruled by fear, and those who failed to deliver could end up in the Gulag or worse. But once the Soviet Union loosened up, there was less tyranny to force people to work but not enough incentives to make people work harder. The result was a kind of stalemate, often described as “They pretend to pay us, and we pretend to work.” Everyone did the bare minimum while expecting all the benefits due to the Proletariat as promised under communism. Why work harder when no one else did and when it was forbidden to become rich? The Soviet Union became like one big corrupt labor union. Imagine an entire society not only led by Jimmy Hoffa but managed by his team. It became difficult to fire anyone, and mediocrities were promoted for loyalty than ability. Still, there was just enough to maintain a decent comfortable life for most people as long as their expectations were modest. Also, the steadiness of the Soviet Union after Stalin’s death led to a culture where everyone expected everything to remain the same. So, when the reforms came, people were more concerned with what they might lose than what they might gain. They didn’t have much but still had enough in terms of wages and benefits to live a modern life.

    In contrast, the Chinese were willing to take risks because they had nothing to lose. After Mao’s rule, most Chinese had pretty much NOTHING. Even the iron rice bowl became a myth during the Great Leap. And in the 1970s, Mao came up with another hare-brained scheme of making everyone grow nothing but wheat or rice. So, people were deprived of fruits and veggies.
    If you have something, you might fret to lose it even if it’s not much. It’s still something, which is better than nothing. That was the Soviet situation. But if you got nothing, what do you care about taking risks as you can only gain as you got nothing to lose. So, paradoxically, China was better positioned to take advantage of freedoms in the 1980s because it was like a nation of beggars. It’s like a starving dog let loose will hunt for food whereas a half-fed dog, though not full, will stick with its regular doggy-bowl than hunt for food.

    But there was also a cultural factor. Chinese have work ethic, Russians don’t. It’s like Germans have work ethic, the Spanish not so much. This made a huge difference. Culture matters. Chinese are like rodents always collecting and hoarding stuff. Russians are like bears that lumber around; when a bear is fed, it goes to sleep. Generally throughout history, Russians worked hard when forced under tyranny or by circumstances. When times are good or tolerable, Russians don’t apply themselves. People with real work ethic work hard even when they don’t have to. They feel guilty about not using their time constructively.
    Also, Asians are more conformist and servile, and therefore they make better workers on the assembly line. There’s less cuss and fuss about them. As China has had many poor people willing to work diligently for low wages for long hours, it was very useful to the Western elites who could then bypass national labor with its unions, demands, and legal protections.
    Indeed, the economic success of free-wheeling Hong Kong proves that statism was not the main reason for China’s economic rise. Taiwan and Hong Kong had already made great gains minus the statism.

    Where statism is useful is in safeguarding and enforcing the noble fascist mythos of a nation. But this is so ONLY IF the regime has a proper fascist understanding of history and power. If the order is anti-fascist and anti-nationalist, the statist forces will push for racial demise and cultural decay. We see this in the West. The state has grown ever larger in both the US and EU, but why are they different from Russia and China? Because Western statism is managed by cuck-maggots who take their marching orders from Jewish Supremacist hegemonists. So, instead of proper national-humanist true fascism, there is gangster-fascism of arrogant elites and their comprador quislings. Statism is like the gun described by the hero in SHANE. Just like the gun is only as good as the person using it, the state or statism is only as good as the people controlling it. The problem with libertarians is they see the state itself as the enemy. Others see statism itself as the solution. In truth, it all depends on who controls the statism. It’s like the gun in the hands of a law-abiding citizen is totally different from a gun in the hands of a crazed criminal. When Mao ruled the state, the CCP was like the most terrifying thing. But when the Chinese state came under control by men of pragmatism, China did much better.

    At any rate, there needs to be a strong nationalist regime with proper fascist credentials. Without strong political power independent of the business class, the government(democratic or otherwise) simply turns into a tool of soulless plutocrats. In search of a ‘soul’, the plutocrats form a pact with faddish ‘radicals’ who provide the ‘meaning’ with their bogus theory of justice. The synthesis of big money and big mouth is what we have today, the kind of ‘woke radicalism’ that is rich-friendly, decadent, and obsessed over meaningless trivialities and idolatry. It’s where Mayday turns into Gayday because homos are favored as standard-bearers of ‘progress’ because they are so catering to the rich and privileged. Or, it’s the idolatry of the Negro because blacks dominate sports and pop music. As Jews are the richest people, most of ‘progressive’ politics in the West comes down to “Is it good for Jews?” It’s about Jeff Bezos working with ADL, BLM, and tutti-fruity to gain ‘wokemon’ points for himself and his super-rich class.

    Though the militarist regime in Japan committed serious crimes and the South Korean military dictatorship in the 70s could be brutal, they were still nationalist forces that kept the business class in line. But in the absence of nationalist-statist checks, the business class has taken over everything and bought up all politicians in Japan and South Korea. As the rich class are soulless and seek validation by status-conscious conformity to whatever is fashionable and faddish, moral values have gone down the toilet in both nations. In contrast, despite the problems of the CCP, it does have the power to rein in the excesses of the business class that is willing to sell anything to gain more in wealth and status.

    One area where Russia may have an advantage over China is it has come to an honest terms with its history. The Russian case, though painful, proved that Russia is bigger than any single ideology or political party. Russia is the totality of Russian culture and history. Russian communism had its triumphs but also its tragedies. Russia was right to reject the gangster-capitalism of the 1990s but also right to honestly face the crimes of communism. Thus, Putin’s Russia is on firm moral grounds. Its main foundation is nationalism, culture, and history, not ideology. And indeed, any great order must be built on something deeper and stronger than ideology. So, while the fall of the Soviet Union was very painful for Russia, the long-term effects are that Russians are truly free in their relation with history. They admire the achievements of the Soviet era but also have come to terms with its criminality and evils. In contrast, even though the CCP has remained and achieved amazing things, current Chinese system is founded on a lie and has yet to face its past honestly. Because Russia is free of ideology, it can honestly work with both capitalism and socialism. In contrast, China seems dishonest because it practices capitalism while still pretending to stand for communism. (In the long run, for any nation to survive, it must come to a reckoning with the fascist laws of history. After all, the best and the most noble things about current Russia and China are fascist: Reverence for the past, revolutionary in spirit, nationalist, open to socialism and capitalism, keen understanding of real power, and etc. There is no reason to believe that fascism must always be associated with Hitler and Nazism. That was only one kind of fascism, one that failed. Rejecting all of fascism because of Nazism is like throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Take the idea of ’empowerment’. Suppose someone empowers himself and does bad things with power. Does that mean we should reject the whole concept of empowerment and power? No, we need only to reject the misuse of power. Also, what political system hasn’t misused its power? So-called ‘liberal democracy’ of the US committed ‘genocide’ against the natives and used slavery. Does that invalidate everything about democracy? So, instead of denouncing fascism, Russia and China would do better to formulate a better kind of fascism, the only truly honest theory of power. Then, the foundations of their power would truly be honest.)

    Max Parry is correct that a people’s reckoning with their dark past must NOT be outsourced to others who feign sympathy. The globalist Jews who took part in the creation of New Russia after communism had only one thing in mind: Loot Russia for Jewish Power. They were bad faith actors. Still, that doesn’t mean it was wrong for Russians to honestly face up to the dark facts about the Soviet period. The thing is one must do it on one’s own terms. It’s like it was good of Germans to face up to their Nazi past but very foolish to outsource so much of it to Jews who will never forgive and are hellbent on destroying Germany for all eternity.

    One day, if China is to be a genuinely decent nation, it must honestly face up to Mao’s great crimes. True greatness isn’t only about money and power but truth and honesty. But China should never allow outsiders to define and dictate the good and the bad of Chinese history. It must find its own voice. And the Chinese should especially not allow Jews to control the narrative. While there have been decent Jewish scholars and historians on China with good will, most Jews in the Western media and deep state are just snakes and weasels looking for vulnerabilities in order to take over.
    Take White America for instance. US history is full of greatness and darkness. So much was achieved but at great costs. So, it was right of White America to come to terms with its dark chapters of history. But it foolishly outsourced this endeavor to Jews who merely exploited it to fill whites with ‘white guilt’ so as to control them as emotional sheeple of Jewish supremacism.

    Khrushchev cannot be faulted on this account because he didn’t outsource Soviet self-criticism to the outside world. He was for Soviets learning to criticize themselves, at least for awhile. Mikhail Gorbachev, a decent man, was more trusting of the West, and perhaps things would have turned out better if the reforms in Russia continued in cooperation with the West ruled by the likes of Nixon and Reagan. For all their faults, I don’t see Reagan and Nixon as the kind of people who’d kick a bear when it’s down. When Russia tried to move away from communism, there were good-faith actors willing to help. But by the 1990s, the boomer-Jewish takeover of the West was complete, and the kind of Western experts sent into New Russia were some of the most venal Jews that ever lived. They did to Russia what World Jewry did to Germany during the Weimar Period. They stripped it of everything and raped it raw. It’s like how Neocons came over to the GOP to exploit it and squeeze it to its last drop of service to Israel and its wars. It’s the difference between the Christian mentality and Jewish mentality. The tragedy of post-communist Russia was it underwent transformation to capitalism when Jews came to dominate foreign policy.

    At any rate, ideology is never enough for a rich and complex civilization like Russia or China. This is why fascism is ideal. It appreciates tradition and heritage as well as the need for change and modernity. It has uses for capitalism and socialism. It also understands that man isn’t simply a rational and materialist creature but a spiritual, mythic, and creative one. True Fascism can work if it rejects the Ridiculous Fascism of Mussolini and Ludicrous Fascism of Hitler.
    Because Russia rid itself of communist ideology, it can truly be based on a civilizational foundation. Russia can freely draw from its deep history while also crediting achievements under the Soviet era. It is free to choose from its vast pool of history.
    In contrast, as long as China remains chained to CCP ideology, it cannot properly appreciate all aspects of Chinese history. Mao must always be the great helmsman, and terrible lies must be perpetuated to further the myth. Also, much of Chinese history must be ignored or vilified because it doesn’t sit well with the current ideology. It’d be much better if China moves away from CCP ideology and embraces a national humanist fascism.

    In Russia, people can admire both the Whites who fought for Tsar & tradition and the Reds who fought for what they believed at the time to be justice and progress. People are free to see the good and bad of all sides. People can note the grave failures of Tsar Nicholas while also acknowledging he wasn’t an evil man and meant well for his country. Russians can come to terms with Stalin’s crimes while also praising him as the strong leader who led Russia to victory in the greatest of wars. It’s a civilizational view. The US used to have it too. After the Civil War, when the dust settled, the victorious North gave the South its due. Southerners also fought for what they believed to be right, and they fought with courage and honor. Robert E. Lee was much respected. How richer the US was when it was free of ideology.
    But now, with Jewish Power and its idolatry of the Noble Negro and its demonization of Evil Whitey, US history cannot be approached as a rich and complex web of triumphs and tragedies. It’s all about good vs evil. Ideology is the idolatry of certain ideas over reality, and it impoverishes the mind.

    China during the Cultural Revolution demonstrated the dangers of ideology. Just about any aspect of Chinese culture, history, heritage, and customs came under attacked and was destroyed because it didn’t jibe with the prevailing ideology. So much art and culture was lost.

    In the end, China is bigger than the CCP, and so, if the CCP is to really secure the future, it must move away from ideology and formulate a larger sense of what it means to be Chinese. That way, even Chiang Kai-Shek and KMT can be given their due as patriots in their own right than as permanent ideological villains. That way, Chinese no longer need to think in terms of ‘left’ vs ‘right’, a mindset that is downright toxic in the West.

    Despite the fact that the report by the Soviet leader contained demonstrable falsehoods such as the absurd claim that Stalin, one of Russia’s most formidable bank robbers as a revolutionary, was a coward deathly afraid of the Nazi invasion as it neared Moscow during WWII, the self-serving speech split the international communist movement and laid the internal groundwork for the USSR’s eventual downfall.

    Robbery isn’t an act of courage. A duel takes courage as it’s about an armed man vs an armed man. Robbery is an act of ambush on the unarmed. Stalin was a lowlife bandit when he robbed those ill-guarded banks. Also, it’s been well-established that Stalin was in a state of utter gloom and despair when Germany invaded. He wasn’t even sure his henchmen would stick by his side. I’d say his reaction was all-too-human and understandable. And what Russian in Moscow was not deathly afraid of the advancing Nazis?

    Also, if some speech led to the eventual downfall of the Soviet Union, maybe the whole edifice was flimsy to begin with. What kind of a system is shaken to its core by a stinking speech? One would think the USSR was just a house of cards crumbling from a sneeze. Speech or no speech, Soviet Union was bound to suffer from arterial sclerosis because its state was at once too repressive for enterprise and too lax for coercion.

    • Replies: @InnerCynic
  173. @RedpilledAF

    Tripe like this essay is what Unz wants, of course. That’s his little project, to unite far left lunatics with far right wingnuts, mostly as a way of discrediting the non-wingnut positions of the latter (which Unz himself is utterly incapable of – or utterly unwilling to – write honestly about).

    I hope for Sailer’s individual sake the shekels are worth it. Too bad for the rest of us who have to suffer through it.

  174. Rahan says:
    @Daniel H

    When China’s economy is twice the size of ours the idea of cold war competition is absurd. When China’s economy is three times the size America can be nothing more than a vassal to China, and you know what, so what?

    It doesn’t have to be this way. Doesn’t have to be “either I’m your boss or you’re my boss”.
    And anyway, Russia’s economy is minuscule compared to the US, this doesn’t seem to be forcing it to become a vassal of the US.

  175. @kauchai

    Bless you, kind sir. It will be featured in the newsletter this Saturday.

  176. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    He sent his first message during the war, sent with George Marshall, with whom he met several times. He repeated it at every opportunity.

  177. Rogue says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    China’s rise would just have been slower, that’s all

    Define slower.

    10 years? 25 years? A 100 years?

    In a fast changing world, and considering that most great powers never stay at the top of the pile for very long (in historical terms), a convenient and stretchy term like “slower” needs better definition.

    If Britain hadn’t declared war on Germany in 2 World Wars, and therefore utterly bankrupted itself, it’s decline would have been slower. But how much slower? Big difference between 10 years and a 100 years.

  178. @JohnPlywood

    According to the CIA, China’s GDP on a purchasing power parity basis passed that of the USA in 2014. That’d make them about 30% greater than the USA now. As China has over 4 times the population of the USA, their real income per capita is only about a third of the USA’s. You’re right that they’re poorer.

    Unfortunately. the CIA recently started putting complete bullshit on their website without even caring whether it was self-contradictory. That’s rather like the US infotainment industry that no longer bothers with the slightest proof of US Government claims, regardless of how silly they are. They get away with it because even Republicans can’t help thinking that the New York Times would never lie. Mr Anonymous is always telling the truth.

    That’s amusing because the Republicans simultaneously claim that the New York Times finds it impossible to ever tell the truth. donthomson1@hotmail.com

  179. Smith says:

    The market made China and it will destroy China.

    Until China turns away from market and greed, it is always on the path of self-destruction.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  180. Neoconned says:
    @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle

    The Pentagon currently has like what? 500 billion per yr in its budget? This WENT UP even UNDER OBAMA when food stamps & heating subsidies for old ppl were getting slashed.

    The bigger question is…..80 million Boomers are about to die or retire….and start juicing the fruit of Medicare/SS etc…

    And given our rates of severe obesity and substance abuse another 20 to 50 million Gen Xers & older Millenials will be forced into early retirement…im pushing 40 & I’ll have carpal tunnel and arthritis in 15 years from my years working hard labor in construction labor and restaurants and doing warehouse type work unloading trucks.

    My mother’s recently deceased 3rd husband was a “retired” roofer & handyman who chain smoked but otherwise quite active.

    He used to work on cars & do hard labor in the yard & then magically 1 day couldn’t go out in the sun any more or the heat. And working on ladders or under cars became “too much for him”….

    My point?

    A lotta active folks in their 30s thru 50s who think they’ll be active into their 80s suddenly hit a violent wall and age catches up to them via arthritis or heart problems etc they did not have @ 40…..

    My father tells me im still young. I laugh at him…..

    My point to all this? Whos going to finance the military’s half billion dollar annual goldbricking spree when 110 million productive taxpayers are retiring and they’re being replaced by tax dodging, tax net consuming minorities…..the majority of whom have few to no assets & make near poverty level wages or salaries…..?

    • Replies: @Tom Marvolo Riddle
  181. Levtraro says:
    @ebear

    Interesting hypothesis, but still, the simple notion that tha US gov’t just gave to corporations what corporations wanted (which is what the US gov’t essentially does in the domestic front, see Gilens and Page, 2014, “Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens”, Perspectives on Politics , Volume 12 , Issue 3 , September 2014 , pp. 564 – 581) while hoping China would not become too strong, seems to me more tenable. The reserve currency status of the US dollar does indeed depend to a certain degree on the KSA demanding payments for oil in US dollars, but that deal has never been at risk really, instabilities in the Arab world notwithsatnding.

  182. Average American is carrying how much debt???

  183. @Dr. Charles Fhandrich

    If not attacking Asians–they are busy attacking blacks? If they are not attacking Asians or blacks –they are attacking injuns???

  184. @redmudhooch

    LOL! Except shlong size and IQ are inversely related as shown by J.P. Rushton, unless they can overcome that with some genetic engineering. Wouldn’t blacks prefer to steal Chinese brain DNA?

  185. Ron Unz says:
    @silviosilver

    Tripe like this essay is what Unz wants, of course. That’s his little project, to unite far left lunatics with far right wingnuts, mostly as a way of discrediting the non-wingnut positions of the latter (which Unz himself is utterly incapable of – or utterly unwilling to – write honestly about).

    I hope for Sailer’s individual sake the shekels are worth it. Too bad for the rest of us who have to suffer through it.

    I happened to glance through this thread and noticed your rather rude comment…

    Aren’t you just some foreign Serb immigrant who happens to be a fanatic White Nationalist? I think I’ve seen you ranting and raving about non-whites and (other!) immigrants on various Internet websites for at least something like a dozen years now.

    The reason I say “ranting and raving” is because unlike some other individuals, your many thousands (tens of thousands?) of comments only rarely provide any interesting substantive material. They’re overwhelmingly just rhetorical, ideological, and hortatory, thereby contributing very little to the discussion.

    If you dislike this website so much, perhaps you should just go away somewhere else and not come back.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
  186. @Priss Factor

    This isn’t a comment but an article in itself

  187. Levtraro says:
    @silviosilver

    Actually, uniting the left and the right along nationalist lines is a very good political project in the West, difficult but once barriers are circumvented some way, with a high probability of success in the mid-term. Centrist extremists have become toxic in their effort to distract from economic issues by pretending to care for females, blacks and sexual deviants and from so much meddling into other peoples afffairs and all the self-righteous posturing and preaching.

    The other thing you say is very stupid. Never speak for the “rest of us”, just speak for yourself, and never say you are “suffering” from reading stuff here, just silently go away and don’t come back, that is, assuming you are sincere.

    • Agree: Iris
  188. Anonymous[250] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    The recent “disappearance” of Jack Ma was a warning to the Finance Capitalists, a warning to (Them).

    Ma wanted to have Ant Financial play the game of “bundling” crap investments with good ones, the same BS that Wall Street did to bring the entire West the 2008 Great Financial Crisis (aka “Great Depression 2.0, Deferred but not Dead”).

    Jack Ma thought he had the connections and the money to make it happen. He also had a trump card that he THOUGHT he had – being Han Chinese, of the Chinese power elite, he thought the Chinese power structure would accommodate him. W R O N G.

    So Jack Ma had to be, er, “instructed” as to how things work in China.

    He was told, in no uncertain terms, it’s surmised, that his plans would set a bad example and land him in a Chinese prison – and possibly worse.

    Why did that whole Jack Ma episode have to take place at all?

    Well, Chinese regulatory law had not yet caught up (back then) with the “creativity” of Finance Capitalism. In the West, Ma would have called in his legal firm, and his PR department and talked to his bought-and-payed-for Congressmen. But Jack Ma was in C H I N A – so he had no choice but to cave in and keep his mouth shut.

    “But, but, that’s the Chinese Government making something illegal after the fact! Can’t blame Jack Ma for playing the game, skirting the law, right?!?

    Uhhh, YES THEY CAN – AND DID. They didn’t punish him, just told him NO, and Ma lost a whole lot of money, that the CPC doesn’t feel like making good. That’s the chance he took, thinking he’d outsmart the strategic regulators. “The End of the Fight, is a Tombstone White . . .”

    What’s the takeaway? If China can do that to one of their own, a Han, a member of the business elite, what will they do to any of (Them) who try something there?

    In fact, similar complaints have been registered by (Them) about the impenetrability of other societies in the region, like “democratic” Korea, Taiwan and Japan.

    So I don’t think (They) will get a foothold in Asia.

    • Agree: frankie p, acementhead
    • Thanks: HeebHunter
  189. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    What’s the takeaway? If China can do that to one of their own, a Han, a member of the business elite, what will they do to any of (Them) who try something there?

    Only the white man is dumb, greedy, and short-sighted enough to let ((them)) get a foot in the door. But that’s not entirely true. Only the Anglo-American white man. But again, not entirely true. Only the “Royalist”-minded, Anglo-American white man living in a McMansion and modeling the Rothschilds, or living in suburban split level and modeling the Rothschilds, or living in rental and modeling the Rothschilds…

    The point being, the “Royalist”-minded are suckers for the “Chosen”-minded. And both think they’re entitled to a lavish existence at the expense of the goyim.

    Christianity disabused the “Chosen” of their haughty and entitled pretensions for the good of the whole and to the betterment of humanity, but then the Chosen got together with the haughty Royalists and hijacked the entire West and the vast Middle Class Christianity had generated.

    The jackass “elite” neocons and liberals who’ve run America and the West into the ground since WW2 are the echo of the Faustian bargain the scummy Royalists cut with the scummy Chosenites to pillage the Middle Class for themselves and their pretentious, entitled, egoistic conceit.

    “What does it profit a man to gain the whole world, yet forfeit his soul?”

    • Replies: @Hacienda
  190. Hacienda says:
    @Chris Moore

    “What does it profit a man to gain the whole world, yet forfeit his soul?”

    Whitey played the Jew, the Jew played the world, the world plays the Jew, the Jew plays whitey.

    • Replies: @Chris Moore
  191. Anonymous[250] • Disclaimer says:
    @Donald A Thomson

    their real income per capita is only about a third of the USA’s. You’re right that they’re poorer

    In 2020, China’s real income per capita was 1/3 that of the United States’, which seems like a lousy level. For an American, it is.

    But in 1982, the Chinese income average was something like 1/50 that of the U.S. That took 38 years – a long time for a human being, a relatively short time for a whole country.

    I guess we’ll see what the next 38 years brings.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  192. @Anonymous

    So I don’t think (They) will get a foothold in Asia.

    What is obvious to all the world cannot possible escape the Chinese — ie the poisonous outcome of Judaic power on USA/the “west”.
    China has past experience with Jews in the Opium Wars plus those who instructed Mao Tse-Dong in judeo-bolshevism … even with Asian reverence for ancestors and founder of CCP, it may well be that this figure may be less revered to suit national needs in excluding a virulent parasite.

    Certain power Jews are marrying into China, a strategy they doubtless hope will benefit them. But if it didn’t work for Jack Ma, it will not work for non-Han.

    Perfidious Albion has long experience of Jews and the correspondence between Israel ben Manasseh and Oliver Cromwell is instructive … but whether China will fall for wheedling obsequious flattery (and bribery) is unlikely in my humble opinion when it so obviously threatens the national interest.
    So I tend to agree with your premise.

    “To His Highnesse the LORD PROTECTOR of the Common-Wealth of England, Scotland and Ireland, the HUMBLE ADDRESSES of Menasseh Ben Israel, a Divine, and Doctor of Physick, in behalfe of the Jewish Nation … ”

    https://cf.uba.uva.nl/en/collections/rosenthaliana/menasseh/19f5/index.html

  193. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @Hacienda

    Whitey played the Jew, the Jew played the world, the world plays the Jew, the Jew plays whitey.

    But it wasn’t “whitey.” It was a subset of whitey. And not only that, but a subset that had been genetically infiltrated by Jewy. And then “nudged” toward Zionism. But Jewy didn’t have to work too hard to nudge these soulless golem. After all, they’re of their father, the devil.

    • Replies: @Iris
  194. Iris says:
    @Chris Moore

    But it wasn’t “whitey.” It was a subset of whitey.

    This subset being the Protestants, and specifically those who chose speculative financial capitalism against productive one. This subset can be historically narrowed to Britain and Holland, later joined by America.

    The only reason why the supremacist Talmudists have succeeded in becoming such a dominant and nefarious force that harms the entire world is because they managed to control America’s greedy WASP political system. Ergo, it is America who screwed up “Whitey” worldwide.

    • Agree: HeebHunter
  195. bayviking says:
    @Geowhizz

    Not really, but certainly a better way of thinking. Even my dog is a loyal social member of our family with community values and I’m sure he’s never found religion or god. Similarly, most atheists are better at endorsing and practicing many of Christ’s values, than those that go to church every Sunday, while supporting our troops.

    When I say “Religion is Bunk”, I am quoting Thomas Edison.

  196. bayviking says:
    @Thomas Faber

    Wikipedia defines materialism more broadly than I expected. Its more than the worship of money, which is more closely aligned with Capitalism than Communism. But, in the traditional sense, those countries which used the terms Capitalism and Communism to wage propaganda wars against each other characterized their Capitalist system as aligned with God, whereas most Communist countries endorsed atheism.

  197. bayviking says:
    @Getaclue

    We don’t need God to destroy the world, we are perfectly capable of destroying it ourselves… and we have nobody to blame but ourselves, except our “fearless leaders” have far more say. Nor should we look to God to save us, we should be perfectly capable of saving ourselves.

    • Agree: Iris
  198. @JohnPlywood

    Enjoy your falling purchasing power. I can see you pushing a barrow of green-backs to the junk-food emporium. The Chinese will surpass you in nominal terms soon, if you haven’t destroyed the world in a fit of racist pique at being outdone by ‘mere Asiatics’.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
    , @JohnPlywood
  199. @Anonymous

    One of the ambitions of the Chinese Government now is to reduce inequality, which means that they will. While China grows less unequal Thanatopia grows ever more unequal and neo-feudal, in fact colonised again by the Zionazis. History is funny and ironic is it not.

    • Replies: @Iris
  200. China has NEVER been the equal of the West. Less than 100 years ago China was still mired in the 16th century. And their entire history has been thousands of years of unrelieved tyranny and rigid, hive-mind lack of innovation. The only reason they have any technical and scientific life today is because they bribed our ruling elite to help them steal it from us, and like the (((idiots))) who rule us today, they’ve transferred our entire manufacturing sector to them. Left to their own devices, the Chinese are a primitive, third-world people who somehow test well. That’s probably just a function of cheating.

  201. Ron Unz says:
    @Fisk Ellington Rutledge IV

    China has NEVER been the equal of the West. Less than 100 years ago China was still mired in the 16th century…The only reason they have any technical and scientific life today is because they bribed our ruling elite to help them steal it from us, and like the (((idiots))) who rule us today, they’ve transferred our entire manufacturing sector to them. Left to their own devices, the Chinese are a primitive, third-world people who somehow test well.

    I’m not sure if you’ve ever heard of Lothrop Stoddard, but around a hundred years ago he was one of America’s most prominent public intellectuals, and he had a very different opinion on that question, as did some of his most thoughtful contemporaries. Here are relevant paragraphs from two of my articles, which you might want to consider reading:

    Even a century ago, near the nadir of China’s later weakness and decay, some of America’s foremost public intellectuals, such as Edward A. Ross and Lothrop Stoddard, boldly predicted the forthcoming restoration of the Chinese nation to global influence, the former with equanimity and the latter with serious concern. Indeed, Stoddard argued that only three major inventions effectively separated the world of classical antiquity from that of 18th-century Europe—gunpowder, the mariner’s compass, and the printing press. All three seem to have first appeared in China, though for various social, political, and ideological reasons, none were properly implemented.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/chinas-rise-americas-fall/

    Although these developments might have shocked Westerners of the mid-20th Century—when China was best known for its terrible poverty and Maoist revolutionary fanaticism—they would have seemed far less unexpected to our leading thinkers of 100 years ago, many of whom prophesied that the Middle Kingdom would eventually regain its ranking among the foremost nations of the world. This was certainly the expectation of E.A. Ross, one of America’s greatest early sociologists, whose book The Changing Chinese looked past the destitution, misery, and corruption of the China of his day to a future modernized China perhaps on a technological par with America and the leading European nations. Ross’s views were widely echoed by public intellectuals such as Lothrop Stoddard, who foresaw China’s probable awakening from centuries of inward-looking slumber as a looming challenge to the worldwide hegemony long enjoyed by the various European-descended nations.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/how-social-darwinism-made-modern-china-248/

    You might also want to take a look at the appropriate section of my very long intellectual history of American white racialism:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/white-racialism-in-america-then-and-now/#lothrop-stoddard-and-the-rising-tide-of-color

  202. Iris says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    While China grows less unequal Thanatopia grows ever more unequal and neo-feudal, in fact colonised again by the Zionazis.

    Yes, and this is neither a metaphor, nor a figure of speech.

    Inequality is built in the system by design, thanks to the exponential production of fiat currency.

    Channelled primarily towards the minority 0.1%, the ever-growing monetary flow allows to take wealth from the people who produce it and transfer it at no cost to those who control financial flows, but produce nothing useful for society.

    • Agree: Badger Down
  203. Iris says:
    @Fisk Ellington Rutledge IV

    Left to their own devices, the Chinese are a primitive, third-world people who somehow test well.

    Napoleon Bonaparte disagrees with you who, in 1816, upon reading a travel book on China by Britain’s ambassador Macartney, had this famous sentence:

    Quand la Chine s’éveillera, le monde tremblera

    “When China wakes up, the world will tremble”.

    China always a prime civilisation, that owed nothing whatsoever to other equally ancient civilisations, Mesopotamia, Egypt and Greece.

    Until about the Opium Wars, China always was the undisputed world leading economy with largest GDP; things are just returning to their normal, mean value.

    Time to wake up, dear, your are over two centuries behind.

  204. @kauchai

    The Mandarin term “中国” means “Middle Kingdom”, or “China”. The word “国” itself corresponds strictly to the English word “kingdom”, as in “United Kingdom”. By extension, “国” means “country”.

  205. @RichardTaylor

    The United States is an incontinent peripheral relic. It thinks it is protected by oceans on both sides, but major nuclear powers exist to the north. It has weak militaries stationed all over the world, to little effect. The US has polluted all its rivers. It has destroyed its topsoil to “create a surplus of food”, and bombs itself to “create a surplus of energy”. It is governed by (((aliens))) who hate Americans.
    Go HOME, Yanqui, and cut off the mouth that sucks you dry!

    • Agree: Iris
  206. @Levtraro

    “acceleration has been negative … (growth has decreased)”
    There oughtta be a law against mangling the language like that.
    The lead car in the Indy 500 has gone slightly faster for the past ten laps, but you make it sound like it’s going backwards.

  207. PatriceG says:
    @xyzxy

    There is really no great grammatical or even cultural issue under heaven, simply two parallel denominations for the same entity, and both in wide circulation: one, “Chinese Communist Party”, the other, “Communist Party of China” (CPC).

    Either way, we should focus on more important aspects of this splendid piece, which, by itself, manages to answer many bad faith questions (and accusations) routinely hurled at China.

  208. Getaclue says:

    If you read the Communist and/or Masonic plans that have been leaked/revealed decades ago — you will see these type things are all part of their “plans” to destroy Western Civilization…which of course have worked incredibly well with “Biden” now the final peg to destroy the USA….:

    http://mmunited.org/45-goals-of-communism-already-has-taken-place-in-america/

    https://onepeterfive.com/freemasonry-catholic-church-brief-introduction/

  209. @beavertales

    Cultural and societal decrepitude was previously injected into society intentionally by elements of a hostile alien culture and now we live to witness the end result so many years later.

    The solution could be to supply a Cyberdyne Systems T-101, equipped with something in the 40 watt range, to travel backwards in time and alleviate the West’s ills spawned at the Institut für Sozialforschung so many years ago.

  210. Getaclue says:
    @Malla

    They don’t even hide it — you just can’t discuss it or you are attacked viciously — The Frankfurt School Communists who basically took over Academia in the USA were all Jewish Supremacists — they basically gave us the “Hate YT” Agenda that has now left Academia and infected everything in the USA, if you research it the fact they intended to destroy “white” people/families and the USA is beyond obvious, they actually stated it as their goal and then they did it… — this is where Critical Race Theory bs in large part comes from/was pushed forward — but rarely is it mentioned who they are because somehow the truth is “antisemitic”….

    • Agree: FLgeezer, Malla
  211. @ebear

    Do you know why the destruction of the Bretton Woods agreement was precisely done? So the USA could make the USD into the petro dollar? The world reserved currency? So USA can trade printed paper for stuff?

    Do you know why this was done?

    If the Bretton Woods system had continued, USA would have a much healthier internal economy, not just a 100% consumption based. That is 100%% a certainty in hindsight. Before the 70s, USA had a much, much healthier wealth distribution. A huge and healthy middle class. That was why Bretton Woods had to go, to make way for the wealth movement to the top 0.001%.

    China’s role? Non. This was something the American elites decided. Fuck the American people and middle class. China simply traded it’s vast cheap labor at the time in exchange for super late entry into the development race. Do you know why it was granted MFN status year after year in the early 2000s? Why bush and gore praised it non-stop? Cause Chinese labor and factories was keeping the living standard of the Americans really high with their low-cost products. That is with stagnant American wage since the 80s. Henry Paulson made a speech saying the Chinese should just stay like the early 2000s and forever prop up the USA. Then both countries can get along 😛 you can expect the Chinese to not only laugh but look at him like some retarded american alien.

    Just fyi, even with the absence of USA, China would still be fine. They were trading like mad with Japan at the time. Still do. USA is just one country in the world FYI. USA is actually the one forming alliances preventing major tech transfers.

    The Chinese has done a fanfuckingtastic job of developing their country despite American pressure and embargoes. that is what impressed me the most.

  212. Tsigantes says:
    @denk

    and Georgia, Armenia, Belarus, Moldova, Lebanon….ho hum it never stops.

    • Replies: @denk
  213. @DrWatson

    Parry is a conventional thinker.
    He thinks Americans, not its parasitic 5th column, destroyed America.
    He cowers in front of his keyboard, shaking at the thought of typing ‘jew’.
    A coward and a traitor to his people.
    He went along to get along.
    How will his type be remembered?

    • Agree: GeneralRipper
  214. Iris says:
    @Astuteobservor II

    China’s role? Non. This was something the American elites decided. Fuck the American people and middle class

    Hear, hear.

    This is the best definition of “fiat money creation” and “quantitative easing “ I have ever read. God bless you.

  215. @Ron Unz

    I think I’ve seen you ranting and raving about non-whites and (other!) immigrants on various Internet websites for at least something like a dozen years now.

    And I, in turn, have been familiar with your immigration-boosting bullshit for just as long.

    (Which reminds me, remember your argument that since everyone agrees Singapore is a well run country and they accept immigration, then immigration is surely a great thing? I haven’t seen you make that argument for a while now, you should revive it. It has a real shot at becoming a classic of immigration-boosting mendacity.)

    They’re overwhelmingly just rhetorical, ideological, and hortatory, thereby contributing very little to the discussion.

    That’s something of an exaggeration, but it’s quite true I engage in a lot of that. The reason is that the issue is not complicated. In large part, what is required is giving people the rhetorical confidence to stand up to anti-white bullshitters.

    Aren’t you just some foreign Serb immigrant who happens to be a fanatic White Nationalist?

    How many times do I have to repeat myself that I’m not an immigrant? Neither am I a white nationalist – find just one post where I’ve called myself that, just one, go on. In fact, I’m not really even in the habit of describing myself as “white.” WN is overwhelmingly a nordicist movement and I happen consider those old school definitions of “white” as politically appropriate. I do describe myself as “pro-white,” because (a) I believe WN’s have a point even if I don’t agree with all their political objectives, and (b) the net of “whiteness” is being cast wide enough that I now regularly find myself caught in it, and I’ll be fucked if I’m just going to sit there and take it the way “anti-racist” assholes expect me to. (Oops, is this just more insubstantial ranting and raving?)

    I see below that you linked to your “white nationalism then and now” article. It was precisely that one I had in mind when I accused you of being incapable of speaking honestly about WN – it just totally misses the heart of the matter in a way that almost has to be deliberate. Not your best advertisement.

  216. denk says:
    @Tsigantes

    From William BLum’s
    USA, THE WORLD’S NO 1 ROGUE STATE….

    An except,

    Introduction
    The first edition of this book was written during 1999-2000 and published in 2000. It was inspired by the brutal US bombing of Yugoslavia in the spring of 1999. For this 2005 edition, most chapters as well as the Introduction, have been revised and updated to reflect many of the events since 2000. However, several sections of the book still reflect the fact that they were first written during the Clinton administration and its bombing of Yugoslavia because the text is as applicable today as it was then.

    This book could be entitled: Serial chain-saw baby killers and the women who love them.

    The women don’t really believe that their beloved would do such a thing, even if they’re shown a severed limb or a headless torso. Or if they believe it, they know down to their bone marrow that lover-boy really had the best of intentions; it must have been some kind of very unfortunate accident, a well-meaning blunder; in fact, even more likely, it was an act of humanitarianism.

    For more than 70 years, the United States convinced much of the world that there was an international conspiracy out there. An International Communist Conspiracy, seeking no less than control over the entire planet, for purposes which had no socially redeeming values. And the world was made to believe that it somehow needed the United States to save it from communist darkness. “Just buy our weapons,” said Washington, “let our military and our corporations roam freely across your land, and give us veto power over who your leaders will be, and we’ll protect you.”

    It was the cleverest protection racket since men convinced women that they needed men to protect them, for if all the men vanished overnight, how many women would be afraid to walk the streets?

    And if the people of any foreign land were benighted enough to not realize that they needed to be saved, if they failed to appreciate the underlying nobility of American motives, they were warned that they would burn in Communist Hell. Or a CIA facsimile thereof. And they would be saved nonetheless.

    More than 15 years after the fall of the Berlin Wall, America is still ‘saving’ countries and peoples from one danger or another. The scorecard reads as follows: Between 1945 and 2005 the United States has attempted to overthrow more than 50 foreign governments, and to crush more than 30 populist-nationalist movements struggling against intolerable regimes. In the process, the US has caused the end of life for several million people, and condemned many millions more to a life of agony and despair.

    PS
    Somebody should do an autopsy on William BLum…
    RIP

  217. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Any American who wishes to know what a society run by callous left-brained aspie merchant Chinese please visit the Philippines.

    When the Chinese take over America you’ll have meth labs bubbling on every corner while the money of the dumb lumpens in trailer parks goes directly back to Chinese laboratories just as the Filipino fools blow one another away in squats while all their money goes back to Chinese labs.

    You’ll have no unions & no labor organizers & no minimum wage & labor organizers will be shot.

    You’ll have a Chinese fire department to cope with their arson jobs.

    You’ll have a completely corrupted government & this is easy in America because lobbyists can be bought.

    Just as there is no love lost between the Phil-Chinese & the Spanish Mestizos in Philippines the Mexicans & Chinese will be at one another’s throats in the USA.

    Visit Philippines.

    The future of USA tomorrow if China takes over.

    Now the Chinese here are going to talk about Africa.

    But look to Philippines or Indonesia or Malaysia where the Chinese have a serious foothold.

  218. antibeast says:
    @Fisk Ellington Rutledge IV

    What you call the ‘West’ today were barbaric cave-dwelling savages roaming the forests of Northern Europe while China had been an Empire for more than 1,000 years, having achieved the first Industrial Revolution in the world by the Song Dynasty. The Angles, Saxons, Danes, Jutes, Vikings, etc. became ‘civilized’ only after being forcibly converted by the Roman Church. Prior to the Norman Conquest of 1066, Anglo-Saxon England had a reputation for being a savage island, populated by warlike barbarians constantly fighting and killing each other. This is the reason why Northern Europeans want to identify themselves as ‘Aryan’ after the Indo-Iranian-speakers of Central Asia because they themselves don’t have any cultural history of any kind for some 4,000 years, even though their Indo-European-speaking ancestors migrated to Northern Europe some 5,000 years ago. Whereas the descendants of the Indo-Iranian-speaking nomads created the Zoroastrian and Vedic religions of Central Asia and North India, respectively, the Indo-European-speaking ancestors of Northern Europeans created NOTHING, except maybe primitive cave-drawings while the ancient Greeks and Romans created Western Civilization which then spread all over the world.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  219. @antibeast

    Well that would explain why Chinese were continuing to drown female babies as late as the early eighties when I was 9 years old in 1983.

  220. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    China won’t surpass the USA in nominal terms any time soon, and even if they could, would it even matter? China has more than a billion people, the USA less than 350,000,000.

    All the USA has to do is increase immigration to offset any gains China makes in nominal GDP. And besides, China will never equal us in GDP per capita. They only recently surpassed Mexico.

  221. @Jeff Stryker

    – They fill the biological niche of Jews in the rest of the world like Indians in South and East Africa, Parsi in India and Ismaelites in MENA – so what would change?
    IMHO that they are visible … which should put a sort of natural check on their depredations.

  222. @JohnPlywood

    – Half of US “GDP” is so much fetid air; in terms of median income* things look different – and cannot be ameliorated by increasing immigration.

    * of course this means the Sons of O´Bummer on the dole count as negative 😛

  223. @Jeff Stryker

    Probably even more recently than that. And Koreans practice female infanticide too, form what I hear. I guess now they just choose to abort female fetuses instead. Well some, not all, as they’d have no women left if they all did it.

  224. d dan says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    “Well that would explain why Chinese were continuing to drown female babies as late as the early eighties”

    That also explains why Whites were continuing killing Blacks as late as 2020 (and later) and killing Asian women as late as last week. One of the young White man was even beaten by a 78-year old Chinese woman and he has to be carried away with stretcher (and handcuffed, hahaha)

    Dumb racist asshole is always dumb.

  225. d dan says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    “Visit Philippines.

    The future of USA tomorrow if China takes over.”

    Philippines was never ruled by the Chinese, is not ruled by Chinese, and will not be ruled by Chinese. Tell me who was Philippines’ colonial master? Where and who does Philippines learn its political system from?

    “But look to Philippines or Indonesia or Malaysia where the Chinese have a serious foothold.”

    Sure, but don’t look at Singapore nor China, because that doesn’t fit your idiotic stereotype of corruption and incompetence.

    Dumb racist asshole is always dumb.

    • Agree: Harold Smith, antibeast
    • Thanks: HeebHunter
  226. @silviosilver

    I am very surprised you would say that about Ron Unz. I absolutely love this site and his work. It is a wonderful “safe space” that I can vent in after holding it in all day or all week, and I really enjoy reading most of the articles as well as the comment sections.

  227. @Fisk Ellington Rutledge IV

    Yankee Sinophobe racists are truly the bottom of the barrel, but to see their terror at China’s rise turned into puerile and debased bombast is truly priceless. Squirm, baby, squirm.

  228. @JohnPlywood

    Want a bet? First of all, if you Yankee psychopaths don’t destroy the planet in a fit of racist pique, China will continue growing twice as fast as the USA. Moreover when the vultures of unpayable debt come home to roost in Thanatopia, it will go backwards, probably collapse, and render China’s job that much easier. Moreover Thanatopia is the most unequal rich country, and growing more so, so per capita means nothing in the USA. Plus much of the US economy is financialised, therefore unproductive and parasitic. Keep whistling past that graveyard of Empires old thing-it’s most amusing.

  229. @Astuteobservor II

    Visitors to China are amazed at the modern cities, high speed rail, reforestation projects, new museums, concert halls and galleries, futuristic airports, electrified mass transit, huge renewable energy infrastructure etc. Visitors to the USA see Third World airports as they arrive, armies of homeless living amidst seas of human excrement, roads, bridges, mass transit all crumbling and much of the population at risk of dying because they cannot afford medical care. The rising power and the decaying one, and doesn’t it drive the Exceptionals raving mad-DELICIOUS.

  230. Max Parry says:
    @silviosilver

    Ron’s site is continuing what Counterpunch once did when it was edited by the late Alex Cockburn and had writers as diverse on the ideological spectrum as Paul Craig Roberts, Israel Shamir, Mike Whitney, Linh Dinh, Pepe Escobar, etc. all of whom are featured here now. If you don’t appreciate it and need an echo chamber, go somewhere else.

    • Agree: GomezAdddams
    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  231. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Even uniformly poor states like West Virginia and Maine have GDP per capita over $40,000 — Cbina hasn’t even reached $15,000. China gotta grow 3 times bigger just to equal redneck drug addicts.

  232. Ron Unz says:
    @Max Parry

    Thanks for the kind words, Max.

    You might be interested in this short tribute to Alex I’d published after his untimely passing:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/buckleys-unlikely-heir/

    • Thanks: Max Parry
    • Replies: @Max Parry
  233. Max Parry says: • Website
    @Ron Unz

    That was a great tribute and took me down memory lane. Also I had forgotten about Alex’s take on the climate issue which must’ve really put him at odds with his co-editors and unfortunate successors. They wouldn’t dare run anything like that now.

  234. @Jeff Stryker

    That’s a bad thing, but is it really any worse than aborting unborn babies at 8 months and 29 days? That’s legal in the US per decree of the Supreme Court. What’s more, Demoncraps, such as the governor of Virginia, are already pushing for actual infanticide. Republican dorks, who lose to the Demoncraps every time, will lose this one too.

    The US is not morally superior to China. In fact, you might argue it’s morally inferior because at least Chinese infanticide was driven by desperate poverty, while US infanticide is all about convenience and feminist ideology.

  235. @d dan

    That Korean Cho’s massacre of white students at Virginia Tech must have been racial in nature as well. Racism? Who knows who knows what goes through these spree killer’s minds.

    I love how Asians will try to blame black-on-Asian violence like the LA Riots which were the result of the Korean woman being acquitted for shooting a black teenager on white police trying to subdue some linebacker sized black trustee of modern chemistry….Sure, the blacks and Korean shopkeepers went to war in LA because of Rodney King. The real motivation, no different than when Austronesians occasionally kill and cannibalize ethnic Chinese in Jakarta or Kuala Lumpur, is simply a hatred of a market dominant minority.

    Unlike (ANOTHER MARKET DOMINANT MINORITY) who have the right-brained verbal dexterity and Emotional IQ to use the media as PR branch and pay off the asset-rich WASP elite or European nobility before them & cloak their agenda under the pretense of nationalism, Chinese are just too dense and left-brained to do this in places like Indonesia or Malaysia. They just remain an alien hostile market-dominant minority like the Koreans did in the black ghetto Los Angeles.

    Eventually, the atavistic Quest For Fire urge to roast and cook arises…

  236. Smith says:
    @d dan

    Singapore with its apartheid chinese ruling class that treats malay and indo migrant workers like crap should not be emulated.

    It’s gonna be a headache later on when the malays refuse to be treated like crap anymore while chinese birthrate plummets.

  237. denk says:

    Rape camps in Yugo, rape camps in Libya, rape camps in Xinjiang…..

    Somebody sure have certain fetishism for sex and violence.

    One from the archive,
    That ‘humanitarian intervention in Sudan’

    Indeed, the Darfur crisis is following a pattern which is so well-worn now that it has almost become routine. Saturation reporting from a crisis region; emergency calls for help broadcast on the electronic media (such as the one recently on the BBC Radio 4 flagship ‘Today’ programme); televised pictures of refugees; lurid stories of “mass rapes”, which are surely designed to titillate as much to provoke outrage; reproachful evocations of the Rwandan genocide; demands that something must be done (”How can we stand idly by?”, etc.); editorials in the Daily Telegraph calling for a return to the days of Rudyard Kipling’s benevolent imperialism[6]; and, finally, the announcement that plans are indeed being drawn up for an intervention.

    ……………..

    Intervention will allow Western forces to control an oil rich region, and perhaps to expel the present holders of concessions. The fact that the biggest of these is China, and that America’s other foreign adventures also seem to have as their goal the control of energy supplies to that strategic rival, only adds further piquancy to what is, otherwise, an all too banal case of modern imperialistic meddling.

    http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/27e/764.html

  238. denk says:

    Told you, [[[mofo]]] have succeeded in making Chinese the pariah of 21C.

    Chinese old lady floored her white trash attacker.

    This is just the latest case of escalating violence against Han , especially in [[[fiveliars]]] land,.

    Tip of an iceberg.

    https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2021/03/17/elderly-asian-woman-beats-up-man-attacking-her-in-san-francisco/

    mofo = CIA/MI6/AXIO.

  239. @d dan

    The Philippines was a US colony for all of 40 years. Less, maybe.

    Lee Kuan Yew himself compared Philippines to Latin America saying the problem was “indifference of Mestizo elite to native peasants as the Mestizos in their haciendas in Latin America”.

    Perhaps deliberately, overlooked the indifference of the Phil-Chinese who own the Philippines economy & the Spanish-blooded Mestizos are gradually being overtaken by the Chinese merchants.

    At any rate, the US taxpayer has to send the Philippines millions in AID while Chinese tycoons like Henry Sy pay workers starvation wages that barely cover their cost in a ramshackle shanty squat with open sewers & rats.

    Now Chinese posters here will respond by saying that Austronesians are stupid & lazy & prone to addiction & impulsiveness. Which is possibly true.

    China is assuming Africans will offer a similar lack of resistance but I am personally dubious.

    If we look to China we can see from the history of Taiwan that the Chinese killed most of the Austronesians or completely marginalized them.

    Philippines inherits its political system from Mexico, from which Spain ruled the Philippines until Mexico’s independence. That means graft & more graft.

    Also, Spain’s strategy was “small unit penetration” of encouraging libidinous Spanish to impregnate the daughters of local tribe chieftains to solidify relations while the British colonials tended to be cold-blooded queers who preferred to go behind the wall of the gin palace with their fellow countrymen & say “alright, you can put it in my bum if you wish”. As a result, the Spanish leave a Mestizo elite.

    However, the Chinese did learn from the British Opium Wars. Flood other countries with drugs. Philippines has been wiped out from 30 years of Chinese cartels flooding it with meth.

    And of course George was high on Fenatyl made in Chinese labs.

    Now in Singapore or China, any drug dealer selling drugs to locals simply disappears without trial.

    Then Chinese have a public outcry about how police deal with some huge Fenatyl addict high out of his mind.

    The problem with certain stupid groups of people is that addiction & stupidity seem to go hand in hand. So you have a group of giant-sized beasts thrashing on Chinese synthetic heroin.

  240. antibeast says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    How is your strawman comment relevant to my reply to the poster claiming that China was never ahead of the ‘West’? The ‘Dark Ages’ was when the West fell behind the rest of the world, including China. And it took one thousand years before the Age of Reason — Italian Renaissance, the English Enlightenment, Protestant Reformation and Scientific Revolution — allowed the ‘West’ to leap ahead of the rest of the world, including China.

  241. TheIdiot says:
    @Ilya G Poimandres

    There is no ideology in my honest opinion

    It is a nation

    It is the only true nation, perhaps

    Jewish nation (global nation, not ideology)

  242. TheIdiot says:
    @Irish Savant

    Single loyalty

    Apart from that,

    this has to be the best and shortest explanation of the downfall of the USSR, ever

  243. @Irish Savant

    You have noted that Max Parry, impaired socialist amateur historian, won’t touch this issue with a ten foot pole?
    The mere word ‘Jew’ sees his testicles ascend to his chest.

    Absolutely laughable group of ‘alternative journalists’ we have here: pepe ‘don’t ask who pays my expenses’ Escobar, godfrey ‘I luv China’ Robert’s, max ‘da joos’ parry and Ron ‘Hispanics r great-come on in’ Unz.

    If the average European of the mid-19th saw this they would have went on a killing spree. Every Jew, aristocrat and priest would have been killed in self-defense. Every Cathedral would have been destroyed. We would have built a wall from the Baltics to the Black Sea, financed a massive Navy and instituted national people assemblies with strict rules on money creation and lending.
    If we don’t act within 1 generation we will be done in by nano-technology and traitors.
    It seems only in the West is it acceptable to betray one’s own people. This must stop and it must stop now.

    Michael Collins 110

  244. @Daniel H

    Josef Gregory Mahoney has a great conclusion to his article –“4 Possible Ways to Describe Biden’s Foreign Policy”:
    “One might suggest the U.S. should learn how to rule itself again before it tries to rule others, but that really obscures the key issue. Perhaps the U.S. can no longer rule itself because its capacity to manipulate others internationally has been so severely diminished. Is that not the be-all-end-all of imperialism? Take away the empire and only the rump is left.”

  245. denk says:

    Did Yang Jiechi sounds angry, you bet he is.
    How’d YOU feel when a serial rapist harangue you for fabricated sexual impropriety , when they invited you to their home turf to talk biz?

    gringos accusing China of genocide and cyber attacks are nuthin but classic Bandits crying robbery, a fukus speciality.
    Mofo ask for it and they get it, a good smack down from master Yang !

    I hope the chicoms had done a proper debugging of their rooms tho.
    The [[[fiveliars]]] are full of shits.

    Remember how they bugged the E Timorese room during the negotiation on Timolese oil field. ?

    Remeber when CCP ordered a BOeing for prez Jiang, the chicoms discovered the jet was clawling with dozens of bugs, even in the toilets ?

    The !@#$%^ are pathological snoopers,
    It took the chicoms this time to pull away their fig leave and show the world, the emperor has no clothes !

  246. @Jeff Stryker

    Sound like exactly what a piece of satanic shithole like muttmerica deserves. Say what you want, but 8 month abortion is pretty fucking demonic. Nothing the “chicoms” “do” can top that shit.

    1945 payback for all allies scum.

  247. @JohnPlywood

    Are amerihicks really this stupid? Chinese already top the world in logistic and public transportation infanstructure in both size and quality. These are literally the first factors for real economic growth.
    Meanwhile, muttmerica and the (((west))) ride derelict subways filled with savages (of all colors), used condoms and needlles. Oh, smell and the grafity too. How quaint.

    • Replies: @GomezAdddams
    , @JohnPlywood
  248. @Astuteobservor II

    The kike loving masses of muttmerica asked for this when they volunteered to die for the hooknosed in both world wars.
    >but muh draft
    40% is a large number. And it ain’t the percentage of conscript.

    Amerimutts deserve this. They will suffer now and later join the greatest goyim on that eternal pain train, along with all the shlomo and cohens and golddiamond, goldberg, etc. Lol

  249. @JohnPlywood

    Funny how tens of millions of Chinese travel overseas, but you rednecks don’t even have passports., let alone the money. Think ‘purchasing power’ if you have the nous to comprehend it.

  250. @HeebHunter

    Average USA citizen in debt 85,000 or each taxpayer in Debt $224,000–don’t earn that at McDonalds———–and this year’s deficit is 3 Trillion. This is like watching Playboy Buddy Rose on his keen diet tipping the old Toledos at 425 pounds and stating he dropped an incredible 4 ounces with his Buddy Rose Diet plan. He is now aloft –to the big turnbuckle in the sky along with Sergeant Major Tomko and Moose Morowski.

    • Agree: HeebHunter
    • Replies: @HeebHunter
  251. @GomezAdddams

    The amerimutts also have printed so much green toilet paper later last year, accounting for one third of green toilet paper ever printed in history in this period alone.

    So not even being a kosher high class prostitute would pay this off. Hell, they will have to pay with their ever contracting GDP (worthless number) for years to pay for what was done last year alone.

    This is some nation ending development right here, no more “intellectual debates” needed.

    1945 rewards.

  252. @Godfree Roberts

    I agree that that piece of Kaminski was a bit overblown, but the bigger point: that the picture of an isolated hermetically sealed China was just plain wrong and Anthony Sutton was making this point back in what? 1970’s. When major US corporations were already building bridges. The tentacles of the US octopus are everywhere and the vehicles used; Yale in this instance and I’m sure the Rockefeller Foundation is in there somewhere, are often not immediately obvious.
    I’d love to see a re-run of the 1952-4 Reese Committee to dig into the Foundations which in many cases are simply well connected criminal organizations. The Atlantic Council is my current bete-noire.

  253. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    This is a grudge match for the ages, right here…lol

    In the blue tard corner we have a lefty dothead pretending to be white.

    In the red tard corner a lefty self-hating Aussie who wants to be Chinese.

    Let’s get it on!

  254. Rdm says:
    @Dumbo

    where is the source Soro’s wife being Chinese?

  255. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Yeah, “overseas” to Hong Kong and other nearby Southeast Asian locales. Dummy.

  256. @HeebHunter

    Are amerihicks really this stupid? Chinese already top the world in logistic and public transportation infanstructure in both size and quality. These are literally the first factors for real economic growth.

    Apparently not, since China’s GDP per capita is barely above Mexico’s.

    Just another failed Communist infrastructure program.

    • Replies: @Boomthorkell
    , @HeebHunter
  257. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    The only reason that Chinese bush peddlers in Singapore are not sitting in a fetid swamp drinking tapico is that white people a) gave them a viable system of law which they adhere to b) built the Hong Kong & Singapore infrastructure & established them as trade hubs c) flood SEA countries like Philippines with remissions money or retiree pensions which allowed the construction of shopping malls e) continue to pump foreign AID into countries like Philippines & Indonesia even though the Chinese merchants there are rolling in money.

    Many overseas Chinese have zero purchasing power. They are illegal immigrants doing online gaming or other scams in countries like Philippines or Malaysia.

    Let’s take Philippines. This is a country that only exists because of white intervention where thee Fijian peasants ran starting with the Taiping Rebellions & became wealthy.

    It will all end tomorrow when the Americans pull out.

    Otherwise the Chinese would sitting around a swamp in Malaysia called Singapore taking a shit on their sugarcane to make it grow.

    White British men BUILT the countries of Malaysia & Singapore that Fijian Chinese or other Han emigrated too…had the British never colonized Malaysia or assisted Yew in forming Singapore the Chinese would have not even immigrated.

    White people allowed China to reclaim Hong Kong in my lifetime-1997-and ever since then HK has been a mess.

    Had post-Marco Polo Europeans not opened trade routes or colonized Southeast Asia there would be many more poor Chinese in the Mainland.

    But white management only stretches so far. When Chinese & Indian border disputes become a war that ricochets into Singapore between the Chinese & Tamils there…whites are going to be unable to intervene. And that will happen sooner or later.

    White people have been traveling the world since Marco Polo.

    • Disagree: antibeast
    • LOL: HeebHunter
    • Replies: @d dan
    , @Commentator Mike
  258. @JohnPlywood

    Why would that make the infrastructure program a failure? Is your statement implying their GDP would be better if it didn’t happen? What if there are statistics that show the positive affects of this infrastructure program on their GDP, and positive effects over the long term?

    That aside, should Mexico not invest in a comparable infrastructure program for itself? Would that not help the country, in your opinion?

    That aside, I think one could also look at other economic factors between Mexico and China. With the ultimate question being “which country is it better to be poor or middle class in?”

  259. Max Parry says: • Website

    China’s infrastructure is world class. The U.S. would barely make the top 10 in transportation, bridges, roads, architecture, etc.

  260. d dan says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    “… where thee Fijian peasants , … Fijian Chinese or other Han emigrated too”

    Dumb racist asshole strikes again. Doesn’t even know the basic thing like the difference between Fujian and Fijian, but talks like expert as if he has good command of the whole story. Real dumb and embarrassing comments in full display.

  261. @Jeff Stryker

    You meant Fujian not Fijian.

    A large contribution to the economy of the Philippines is also made by remittances from Filipino migrants and overseas workers in US, EU, NZ, Australia, Canada. So I guess the whites help out there too by letting them emigrate to their countries.

    The Chinese out of Hong Kong and Singapore have been running financial scams and pyramid schemes in SE Asia and then laundering the money back on their islands and reinvesting the proceeds again in SE Asia. At one time in the 1990’s the Chinese cleaned out Indonesian banks out of all the local people’s deposits and ran to Singapore with the money – that was one of the reasons the riots against them were so vicious, but as with all pogroms the guilty got away while mostly small time shopkeepers were burned out, raped and butchered. The Chinese also run a lot of the sex trade and human trafficking in the region and elsewhere as well as spreading all sorts of corruptions in finance, business, politics and society at large, including the drug trade that you mention, from the Red Wa Army in Burma and Thailand to the various Triads and Tongs in the rest of the region. These are all the sort of things you’d expect the Jews of Asia to get up to.

    • Troll: antibeast
  262. gnbRC says:
    @Max Parry

    Wait, so “da joos” were not only behind the Soviet Union but also its downfall?

    This is a more interesting comment then a casual reader/commenter probably realizes.

    When one closely views Jewish societal infiltration tactics throughout history, one could come to the realization that they were successful only because the pervading ‘authority figures’ were vulnerable in a way that favored destructive tactics. Given that there’s a historical record of these tactics, it would be interesting to see if more enlightened ‘authority figures’ and their ‘institutions’ could be made more resistant to such tactics.

    For example, would it be possible to set up a societal ‘experimental’ zone in which Jewish tactics were not permitted, with the intent to formulate new ‘laws/statutes’ to prevent destructive tendencies – because, presumably, it is not the intent of a ‘country’s societal organizing structure’ to destroy itself, which is akin to saying one will permit reckless endangerment and/or societal assault on a countrywide scale, but not at an individual level. Now mentally contrast this to how these tactics are handled in the current US government sector and how ‘laws/statutes’ are arrived at.

    If a major war can be prevented, then experience-based eventual outcome would be that the world’s major powers (China, Russia, US) get together to oppose the ‘Jewish System’ of societal destruction and thereby highlight the negative aspects of Jewish culture to non-aligned countries.

  263. @JohnPlywood

    Muh GDP again. I see western GDP as nothing but an index for black semen consumption and other kosher implementations upon society.
    Tell me what is the worth of 60000 $/€ a year is when in Asia 20000 €/$ a year give you a kick ass mortage for a real house with garden?

    And most western goyim ACTUALLY live on 20000 €/$ a year, our median numbers are just skewed because of how much fiat is created and given directly to the elites and the kikes.
    Do some bullshit average function and divisions and you just cooked the stats.

    The Chinese start out in life with a real social net and somewhere they can call home. And the lack of spics and niggers help. Muttmerica will turn into Atzland and New Liberia soon. It is hilarious to see the mutt “right wingers” here beat their chest when this is their reality:

    -their grandpas and daddies were most likely pieces of shit who served (((western))) interests, responsible for the current calamity they were for over 150 years now.

    -boomees love for their spawns in the (((West))) is legendary. Without real estate or any inheritance planned, these breeders are happy to boot their children out of the only home they know for no concrete reason

    -they themselves are weak and stupid, which is how they slipped away from control of their country in the first place

    The fact that a mutt is telling me that the most developed infanstructure on the planet will not play any role in local growth is
    hilarious.
    Imagine thinking someone going to work on a clean maglev train is worst off than a Goy being harrased everyday by niggers on stinking, 50 years old subway wagons riddled with grafity and used condoms.

    Imagine thinking China or any serious country is still communist.

    • Replies: @JohnPlywood
  264. denk says:

    China

    VS

    US

    China wins…hands down

    • LOL: HeebHunter
  265. antibeast says:
    @JohnPlywood

    Comparing a Western country like the USA to an Asian country like China is like comparing Apples to Oranges. Let’s compare the USA to another Western country, Germany.

    USA’s GDP per capita is 20% higher than Germany but is the standard of living of US citizens really higher than that of Germans? Probably not as Germany has a generous social welfare system compared to USA with high social quality of life benefits such as a minimum of 24 vacation days, 14 weeks of maternity leave, public health insurance, free college education at public universities, etc.

    Now, let’s compare China with another Asian country, Japan.

    China’s GDP per capita for its top 20% population of 300M is already at USD20K which is half that of Japan. Those ‘middle-class’ Chinese enjoy a standard of living higher than the Japanese because they manage their own businesses and own multiple homes in China, travel overseas at least once a year, buy European luxury goods, own either German or Japanese cars, invest in overseas properties in Western countries, send their children overseas to study in Western schools or universities, etc. China has surpassed the USA to become the largest consumer market in 2019 and is projected to become the largest market for luxury goods worldwide by 2025. China’s stated goal is to double the size and income of the ‘middle-class’ in order to spur a consumption-driven economy by 2035. By that time, China’s GDP per capita will be at $20K but the ‘middle-class’ Chinese will increase to 40% of the population at 600M with a GDP per capita of $40K. The ‘middle-class’ will continue to increase to about 80% of the population by 2050. By that time, China’s GDP per capita will be equivalent to that of Japan.

    In short, China still has three decades to go before its GDP per capita matches Japan. But that’s only because China is a huge country with a large population. The top 20% of its population already has a higher standard of living than Japan with just half the GDP per capita of Japan.

  266. Jazman says:
    @d dan

    You destroyed dumbo so easy , racist morons are half educated idiots

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  267. denk says:

    1982, fresh on her victory in the Falklands, Thatcher met Deng in Beijing to ‘negotiate’ over continuation of Brit rule in HK.
    Deng was unimpressed by the iron lady, he told Thatcher in no uncertain terms, ‘We can take back HK in a day any time we want’
    Thatcher was so stunned by Deng’s rebuff, she stumbled on the steps and fell on her way out.

    FFW 2021
    The gringos set up a HOng Men Yan to lure the chicoms into a ‘trade talk’, instead they’d get lectured and civilised by BLinken right in front of all the major western newswire.
    What a way to herald the return of uncle sham back into the ring eh?

    Except the trap went awry and backfired, the gringos didnt bargain for ‘Tiger‘ Yang Jiechi [as per Bush the senior], who turned the table on BLinken and co , savaged them on proper ethics and good manner, right in front of the press which was assembled by the gringos to record the Chicoms humiliation. !

    Back home,BIden was so shaken by the reversal he stumbled thrice while walking up the staircase to airforce One.

    Moral of the story…
    if you don’t learn from history you are doomed to repeat it

    • Replies: @william williams
  268. @HeebHunter

    This comment embodies the truly horrifying nature of the brain damage and mental illness that dissident right commenters all seem to suffer from. I hope for your family’s sake that you don’t get doxxed.

    • Replies: @Boomthorkell
    , @HeebHunter
  269. @JohnPlywood

    So, about that infrastructure question. What would your recommended policy be? No infrastructure development? Some infrastructure development? You haven’t really…voiced anything but pure negatives.

    • Replies: @HeebHunter
  270. @JohnPlywood

    dissident right

    I am not a braindead kike lover, what do you mean? Stick to the infanstructure question, puh lease.

  271. @Boomthorkell

    You haven’t really…voiced anything but pure negatives

    That is what happens when you push a shill into a corner. The boomers of Unz havent realized that there is no such thing as anonymous polite, honest discourse. There isnt even one in real life ffs.
    Only moral values and integrity matter. I do give the allies spawns the integrity part. They will go to burn in hell rather than repent and be at peace. Fine, God gave us freewill for a reason.

    • Agree: Boomthorkell
  272. @d dan

    Read up on the official US government statistics for murder and rape. See who the perpetrators are and who the victims are.

    There have been decades, without interruption, where Africans in the USA murdered more non-Africans than the other way around — despite the Africans constituting 12-13% of the population. Few white or asian americans murder Africans in the USA, but the reverse happens every minute of the day.

    The same goes for African rapes of non-Africans in the USA. Almost no white or asian person ever rapes an African in the USA, but the reverse happens every day (including to a white friend of mine back in high school in New Jersey).

    You are entitled to your own opinion. But not your own facts. Evil and the impulse towards violence resides in people of all races and colors, but for whatever confluence of reasons, Africans are clearly, overwhelmingly, and disproportionately the aggressors in our country. People of their own race, and every other race, are the victims.

  273. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Have to agree with you there, precisely because I love America and we need to be honest with ourselves if we are to avoid collapse.

    You make an excellent point about the meaninglessness of economic “averages” in the USA as the top 1% (or less) pull farther and farther away from the pack, too often through financial gamesmanship, usury, speculation, price-gouging on rents and medical services and drugs, rather than legitimate useful work … while life gets poorer, economically and medically more precarious, more frightening, more surveilled, less hopeful, less physically safe for the majority – of all races.

    Average income, average household net worth, average household stock/bond investments, average home equity, need to be replaced with MEDIAN measures. That tells you more about how most Americans actually live.

    ‘Yankees” sounds a little silly, though, unless you are talking about the baseball team 😉

  274. @JohnPlywood

    Mulga is right above when he says that economic averages, especially in the usa, are misleading. I suggested that medians are much more useful, and our economic medians in my dear country are increasingly discouraging.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  275. @Jazman

    Yeah, I’m roasted.

    I should have spelled it Fukien.

    But let’s face the facts. Many more FUJIAN would have died had the Philippines not been a US colony during the period of time that the last migration occurred. There would be no Henry Sy.

    Similarly, had the Fukien or Fujian or FIJIFIFIFUKUS not been able to flee to European colonies such as British Malaysia or Dutch Indonesia during the Taiping Rebellion…more of them would have died.

    Alas, the Chinese are always too greedy & too insensitive. They pull some shite like Mike mentioned-taking Indonesians money & running to Singapore. That is a typical Chinese klepto thing to do.

    Then come the fiery reprisals as the Austronesians revert to their cannibalistic primitive roots. They roast the Chinese in a literal sense & then eat them. The Austronesians, of course, are not an East Asian race.

    The Chinese will blame the Americans or the CIA…But it is the complete cold indifference of Chinese to Malays & the tropical amiability of the Malays & the simple fact that Chinese are better at math that results in the economic aparthied of Southeast Asian countries.

    Any Australian who looks forward to being the next country in Southeast Asia to be ruled by Chinese is a fool.

    He should look at the homeless of the Philippines squatting on Chinese-owned land…already beginning in New Zealand.

    He should look at the drug war of the Philippines.

  276. @Jeff Stryker

    I forgot to add that the Chinese in SE Asia are ruthless loan sharks who prey on the locals operating illegal loan schemes at massive interest rates. I have seen middle class Malays in debt to them and the Chinese loan sharks take all their bank books, ATM and credit cards so on pay day they have to call the Chinese gangster to escort them to the bank where he waits for them to make the withdrawal to pay their interest and whatever they need for their own expenses then hand the books and cards back to him. They will also engage their victim’s female family members in prostitution to pay off their debts. But they don’t spare their own Chinese from their schemes and scams. The loan shark’s touts walk around town placing their business cards under windshield wipers. Organised African gangs are also making inroads in the region, generally operating heroin and cocaine smuggling and distribution and their black money scams. I suppose they have an uneasy relationship with the Chinese triads who used to control the heroin trade. The Africans have been recruiting Malay women as mules and have also targeted rich greedy Chinese with their black money and 419 scams.

    • Troll: antibeast
  277. @Jeff Stryker

    Yes, many more would have died have they not fled, whether Southeast Asia was under colonial rule or not at that time. The Chinese settlers were mostly coolies back then, and most of them end up working in ruinous conditions in the early days. Yes, a small but significant minority got rather rich by venturing into entrepreneurship, and some of them are quite shoddy, admittedly.

    The part where CIA is accused of complicity is in the 60’s instead of the 90’s, when the main contention revolved around Communism and religious anti-Communist reaction.

    The rest of Asia had been trading goods way before Marco Polo was born.
    For example, check out the empire of Srivijaya and its trade routes: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srivijaya, and the history of the Silk Road:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silk_Road

    [MORE]

    Marco Polo did not establish the Silk Road, he traversed it.

    You are stretching things a lot when you say many Chinese have zero purchasing power and are doing illegal gaming or scams in other countries like Malaysia or Philippines. Most of the scammers and gambling site operators are just criminals from the PRC who moved to Southeast Asia in the more recent timeline to operate illegal activities banned in the PRC. At least in Malaysia, the police will carry out raids from time to time and arrest these criminals. Moreover, the primary targets of these criminals in Malaysia are mainly other overseas Chinese, Muslims do not gamble. Check out the Indonesian and Malaysian national Badminton teams, and you can see many a history of Chinese players proudly representing their country.

    Yes, unfortunately, racism exists in Singapore. Ironically, white people get the good side of it: https://www.jcu.edu.sg/news/releases/racism-in-singapore-examining-how-racial-discrimination-impacts-hiring-decisions

    As you have mentioned Australia, it’s funny how negative stereotypes of aboriginals are also rather pervasive. Furthermore, a significant number of them live in poverty: https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jul/13/lack-of-money-43-of-aboriginal-people-in-remote-communities-have-gone-without-food-in-past-year

    and

    Just like Australia and their aboriginals, Singapore also employs policies to uplift the Malay economic situation:
    https://www.jstor.org/stable/3099708?seq=1

    https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/community/close-to-80000-people-receive-financial-aid-through-comcare-in-the-past-year

    https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/initiative-links-spore-community-up-to-help-poor-families

    https://rima.sg/invisible-diversity-lived-experiences-of-malay-rental-flat-occupants/

    Think about this swap of terms then:
    “But it is the complete cold indifference of white Australians to aboriginals & the tropical amiability of the aboriginals & the simple fact that whites are better at math that results in the economic apartheid of Australia.” Well, one can replace Australians with Americans, and aboriginals with you know who.

    If you are inclined to generalise a group so much to the wrongdoings of some, then reprobates like Peter Scully, Edward Davenport, Charles Ponzi, Richard Huckle, Allen Stanford, the CIA’s (an extension of the U.S.G) involvement in drug trafficking, and too many more to name would say something about your people, no?

    I am not generalising your creed here, I don’t like to generalise. Of course, I have met pleasant people from your creed, and I am sure most people of any creed fall within the realm of normalcy, and are not horrible beings. I am just displaying your logic.

    The real threat to your own society is your own society. In fact, with a much freer system and much less censorship, why is public fervor to reign into the government’s abhorrent actions so limited and temporary? Dissent is basically about “woke and anti-woke” at this point. Democracy fails because the leaders have no idea what they are doing, or they don’t care perhaps. Not sure about the people.

    Then, the Hasbaras often get a lot of the blame, as if the so called “Jewish tendencies” (which I don’t think applies to all Jews) of a significant number of Western gentiles never existed.

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  278. denk says:

    d Dan and lark zuckburger

    jeff striyke is a certified troll.
    I’ve banished him to the bozo file long ago, meaning from then on his posts would be skipped.

    After reading your posts I take the trouble to go over some of his trash ,yikes, true to form…..full of shit.

    [MORE]

    Eg

    White people allowed China to reclaim Hong Kong in my lifetime-1997-and ever since then HK has been a mess

    As if the mayhem and chaos in HK has nuthin to do with CIA/MI6 shenanigans. !

    Any Australian who looks forward to being the next country in Southeast Asia to be ruled by Chinese is a fool

    Again speaking from his ass.
    NO Ozzies wanna be ‘ruled by China’,
    if anything the vast majority are sinophobes, the small minorities who call out the fukus yellow peril BS are nationalists who do not wanna be ruled by anybody, neither fukus nor China

    He should look at the homeless of the Philippines squatting on Chinese-owned land…already beginning in New Zealand

    As if the Chinese go into NZ with guns blazing, robbed Kiwis properties, kicked them outta their ancestral homes like what whiteys did in OKinawa, Jeju, or exiled the indigenous to some slums two thousand miles away from home, like what whiteys did in Diego Garcia, or wiped out the indigenous, well almost, like what whiteys did in North America, Oz, NZ….

    White people have been traveling the world since Marco Polo

    yEAH HAVe guns will travel.
    We come, we saw, we conquer.
    We lie, we cheat, we rob

    England ==>Ireland, Scotland, Wales, North America, Oz, NZ, Hawaii, GUam,
    Diego Garcia, OKinawa, Jeju, Falklands, Kosovo, Iraq, Afghan, Libya, Syria and counting.

    • Replies: @d dan
  279. antibeast says:
    @d dan

    The ‘Chinese’ in the Philippines like Henry Sy have been Philippine Citizens for half-a-century. The ‘Chinese’ in Singapore, Malaysia and Indonesia have also acquired Singaporean, Malaysian and Indonesian Citizenships after the founding of Singapore, Malaysia and Indonesia, respectively. Before then, they were citizens of the Republic of China. The new ‘Chinese’ immigrants from the PRC arrived later in the 90s, many of whom have also acquired local passports.

    To impute alleged ‘criminal’ behavior based on their ‘Chinese’ ethnicity is ethnic stereotyping which is racist drivel. In fact, most Filipinos, Malaysians, Singaporeans and Indonesians of Chinese descent have played significant roles in the cultures, politics and economies of the Philippines, Malaysia, Singapore and Indonesia respectively. To label these people as ‘Chinese’ and then impute alleged criminal behavior on a class of people (Southeast Asians of Chinese descent) is pure and simple racism. PERIOD.

  280. @lark zuckburger

    Damn, you actually took the time to reply point by point.

    You are a way better person than I am. I would probably call him a retard n move on.

  281. d dan says:
    @denk

    Thanks, denk, antibeast, lark zuckburger and others.

    As you can see, even when this guy comes thousands of miles to Asia to fuck Philippines women, he never forgets to stir up hatred of local people against Chinese. The only regret he probably feels is the lost of Whites power in Asia, now that he can’t “protect” other Asians against Chinese “oppression” and “exploitation”.

    If this is not an example of evil, I don’t know where to find hell.

    • Replies: @denk
  282. denk says:

    1901
    Gengzi reparation,
    The Manchu official cowering under the ENA,

    ‘Sign here, here and here….if you dont wanna be reduced to shards’

    https://i.guancha.cn/bbs/2020/05/03/20200503202140289.jpeg?imageView2/2/w/500/format/jpg

    1949
    Mao declared to the nation

    The Chinese have stood up,

    well, barely.
    The ENA immediately went for the jugular.

    2021
    aNOTHER YEAR of gengzi,
    The barbarians want an encore,

    Alaska…
    Tiger Yang [thats what Bush senior called him] tells the new ENA

    go fly a kite.

    It took a while, all of 120 years.
    The sick man of East Asia has finally stood up.

    • Replies: @antibeast
    , @denk
  283. denk says:
    @d dan

    The only regret he probably feels is the lost of Whites power in Asia,

    jeff is a typical WTS.
    White trash supremacist.

    Thats the way I like it, aha aha,
    Thats the way I like it, aha aha

    Return our rapists or else….
    http://smirkingchimp.com/thread/4505

  284. antibeast says:
    @denk

    The sick man of East Asia has finally stood up.

    When Sun Yat-sen founded the Republic of China, the sick man of East Asia finally stood up, which Chiang Kai-shek proved in his eight-year war against the Imperial Japanese Army during WWII.

    Guess who would surrender before the invading Imperial Japanese Army during WWII? The British who would become the sick man of Europe after the Fall of Singapore.

    Now, it’s America’s turn to be the sick man of the world.

    ¡Hasta la vista, gringos!

    • Replies: @Max Parry
  285. Max Parry says:
    @antibeast

    There is a huge distinction between the Nationalist movement as led by Dr. Sun Yat Sen versus when Chang Kai-Shek came to power. Sun Yat-sen was actually friends with Vladimir Lenin and worked with the Communist Party of China, his movement was about asserting China’s economic and political independence, not serving the interests of imperialism. The nationalists under the treasonous Chang Kai-Shek betrayed this alliance with the communists who had been defending the peasantry from the ruling class and Japanese invaders.

    • Agree: Mulga Mumblebrain
    • Replies: @denk
    , @antibeast
    , @Alden
  286. denk says:
    @denk

    New Eight Nations Alliance

    The only good China is one prostrating in front of us, pumped full of Opium

    They’ve thrown everything except the bathtub AT China..
    CIA, MI6, RAW, AXIO, [Ozzie intel], QUAD, ENA MarkII, False Flags, USN, USAF, 21 nATIONS AlliancE, BIrd flu, swine flu, SARS1, SARS2.[COVID]..
    yET China is still standing. !

    What’ll they think of next ??

    • Replies: @denk
    , @antibeast
  287. denk says:
    @Max Parry

    Sun Yat Sen always spoke thru a translator with foreign leaders even tho he’s fully conversant with English.
    Its a matter of national dignity.

    Yang and Wang followed this tradition.
    As English speakers, they enjoyed an advantage over gringos.
    The Chinese duo could formulate their reply even when the gringos were still speaking, whereas gringos had to wait for the translator to finish before they could formed their rejoinder .

  288. denk says:
    @denk

    heck, thats for antibeast.

    Hmm,
    UNZ hourly quota filled.

  289. antibeast says:
    @denk

    You’re swallowing the ‘century of humiliation’ propaganda, line, hook and sinker.

    The Second Opium War was a ‘staged’ event designed to help the Manchu rulers who had to be ‘saved’ by the British and French from the Taiping Rebels. After destroying the antiquated Qing Navy, the British then turned around and sold new battleships to the Manchu rulers who didn’t know how to run their modern Qing Navy which was subsequently destroyed by the French and Japanese Navies.

    After the Taiping Rebellion, the Westerners knew that it was impossible to conquer much less colonize China. So their best bet was to serve as ‘protectors’ to the Manchu rulers who became their ‘clients’. This way, the British were able to sell modern weapons to the Qing Dynasty which was used to equip new Han-dominated Armies such as the Xiang, Huai and Chu Armies, later subsumed by the Beiyang Army. The Manchus were too steeped in medieval feudalism to cope with modern times, unlike the Hans who became well-versed with modern ideas and industrial technology from both the West and Japan, producing two leaders of Republican China — Sun Yat-sen and Chiang Kai-shek — the former educated in the USA, the latter educated in Japan.

    This ‘century of humiliation’ propaganda has been thoroughly discredited today, even by PRC historians.

    • Replies: @denk
  290. antibeast says:
    @Max Parry

    The CCP was founded by fifth-columnists funded and supported by the Soviet Comintern whose goal was to infiltrate the KMT. Sun Yat-sen agreed to the merger of the KMT and CCP in exchange for Soviet support. But Chiang viewed the CCP suspiciously after traveling to and studying in the USSR for three months. After defeating the warlords during the Northern Expedition, Chiang then turned around and purged the CCP from the KMT.

    The CCP was too preoccupied with social revolution at a time when Republican China faced an existential threat from Japanese Imperialism, especially after the Japanese presented their ‘twenty one demands’ in 1915, just one year in WWI because they knew the Western Powers were already in decline while Imperial Japan was on the rise in East Asia. Chiang who received his education in Imperial Japan and trained in the Imperial Japanese Army knew that Japan would eventually invade China. His priority was to politically unify China and then modernize its military by establishing State-owned defense industries. The Japanese Imperialists knew that Chiang was building Republican China into a military and industrial power, rivaling Imperial Japan in East Asia, which would have made it impossible for Imperial Japan to invade China.

    Sun Yat-sen was too naive to believe that Western-style ‘Republican Democracy’ would work in a semi-feudal country like China, ruled by warlords and gangster-capitalists who made vast fortunes from the Opium Trade. What China needed was a ruthless dictator who could unite China politically as Chiang did who needed at most ten more years as he began seizing the private wealth of ‘gangster-capitalists’ as well as ‘nationalizing’ private industry for his military buildup of Republican China. But fate intervened as Japan launched an all-out war against China in Shanghai in 1937, destroying the Republican State that Chiang had built up. His biggest mistake was to coddle the KMT ‘gangster-capitalists’ who amassed their vast fortunes from the Opium Trade before the war, war-profiteering during the war and stealing American aid after the war. Moving to Taiwan after his defeat in the Chinese Civil War, Chiang vowed never to repeat his mistakes in the mainland by declaring Martial Law and ruling as a military dictator for life, overseeing the modernization and industrialization of Taiwan.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @GomezAdddams
  291. denk says:
    @antibeast

    I dont see how your post ‘disprove’ the hundred years humiliation ?
    China was balkanized well and good by the ENA, HK was only returned in 1997, TW IS still wayward, tending toward independence under the fukus patsy Cai yin wen.

    From Gengzi reparation to Alaska,
    https://bit.ly/2NRkOwC
    may be you wanna call it 120 years of humiliation instead ?

    You credit China’s resurrection to Chiang instead of Mao.

    This is contrary to my understanding of pre 1949 history.
    VIZ,
    CCP won the civil war cuz it enjoyed tremendous grass roots support, the peasants wanted to topple the extremely corrupt KMT.
    I heard general Zhang Zue Liang had to kidnap Chiang to force him fighting the japs cuz CKS was too engrossed in wiping out CCP.

    Not being an expert in this field, Im gonna leave it at that.

    What we do know is , when CCP toke over from KMT, China was a fourth world country, with practically zero industry., even had to import house nails from abroad.
    In less than a century, the former sick men of East Asia has grown so strong, the gringos are wetting their pants !
    For me, this is what matters, definitely something to cheer about,

    • Replies: @antibeast
  292. @Jeff Stryker

    UAE & other Gulf Arab countries don’t have the crime that I experienced as a lowly wage earner in the USA in Phoenix. For example, I was not menaced by street gang members in Dubai simply because I happened to be in their field of vision. This happened a couple of times in Phoenix, after which one of them shot a couple in a Phoenix park. Why doesn’t this happen in Dubai?

    I expect this is related to the serious penalties for murder in the region. My impression is that the rule there is one homicide, one execution. In the US, it’s closer to 200 homicides, 1 execution.

  293. Alden says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    We crossed the ocean 400 years ago and the Portuguese did it before those Europeans who became Americans did

  294. Alden says:

    Chinese historian and economist Jung Chang wrote a book Empress Dowager Cixi. It’s really more a history of China after the Taiping Rebellion to about 1910 than just a biography.

    According to Chang, the opening to western trade was the best thing that happened to China for centuries. Because the import taxes the foreign European and American importers paid enriched China

    And the Manchu government used much of those taxes for roads railroads useful education telegraph sewers street lights and other things for the common good. And of course many small Chinese businesses thrived and grew. They may have been gangster capitalists. But that’s The Asian Way. And who are we to judge The Asian Way.

    Why I believe Jung Chang rather than the American communists and liberals weeping and wailing about how the west destroyed China so badly in the 19th century it took the entire 20th century to rebuild is that Chang is a Chinese historian and economist.

    Most of the communist liberal histories of how evil west destroyed helpless China 1800s don’t even mention the Taiping rebellion civil war so ignorant are communists and liberals.

    Writing about 19th century China without the horrors of the Taiping civil war is like writing a history of Europe 1500s without mentioning the reformation or history of US without mentioning American civil war.

    Liberals and communists brains are like a sink. Close the plug, turn on the faucet and fill with liberal communist propaganda. When it’s time for a new tale of liberal communist propaganda, pull the plug.

    Most of the comments remind me of every community college liberal communist ignoramus teacher of the last 70 years prattling the standard communist liberal propaganda.

    Read some books about what really happened in 19th century China. Or talk to some Chinese whose ancestors were there and in the government

    • Replies: @denk
    , @Mulga Mumblebrain
  295. Alden says:
    @antibeast

    Well thank you. Just one commenter of the ignorant bunch who knows what was going on in 19th century China.

  296. Alden says:
    @Max Parry

    The communists didn’t defend anyone from the Chinese invaders. They sat out the war far from the Japanese invaders in the far west near Russia so they could take refuge if the Japanese got that far west.
    The Nationalists fought the Japanese not the communists, Chiang was no saint but that’s The Asian Way. How long did the Nationalists fight the Japanese occupation 1933 to 1945 I believe. While the traitor communists fled west to the border of Russia

    The only reason the communists were able to defeat Chiang and the Nationalists was because the American and Russian governments sided with the Chinese communists as soon as Japan surrendered August 1945.

    • Troll: Mulga Mumblebrain
  297. @Jeff Stryker

    UAE & other Gulf Arab countries don’t have the crime that I experienced as a lowly wage earner in the USA in Phoenix. For example, I was not menaced by street gang members in Dubai simply because I happened to be in their field of vision. This happened a couple of times in Phoenix, after which one of them shot a couple in a Phoenix park. Why doesn’t this happen in Dubai?

    For instance, this type of incident (which occurred in CA) is not going to happen very often in Dubai, because the perps would have been hanged, shot or stoned to death within a low single digit number of years after their arrest:

    Two teenagers who beat their 13-year-old classmate to death are sentenced to probation and have been released back into the custody of their parents

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9407961/Two-teenagers-beat-13-year-old-classmate-death-sentenced-probation.html?ito=push-notification&ci=109327&si=11786209

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  298. denk says:
    @Alden

    The Asian way

    YOu mean the Chinese way of course.
    All them ‘Asians’ being abused., taunted, assaulted, murdered in broad daylight in [[[fiveliars]]] land are Chinese, or some hapless Chinese look alike.

    I’ll tell you whats the Chinese way in three words,
    Nine, nine, six.

    This might seem primitive but the west has no answer to it.

    The gringos and Ozzies resorted to pogroms to drive out those Chinese railway workers and gold diggers in 19C

    FFW 21C
    The west , inspite of its vaunted robotics and AI, still cannot compete with the chicoms 996 model.

    So they resort to the only way they know…
    brute force

    You’ve thrown everything except the bathtub at the chicoms, CIA, MI6, AXIO, USN, USAF, QUAD, ENA, FF, Uighurs, Tibetans, Indians, Japs, bird flu, swine flu, SARS1, SARS2…..
    What’ll you think of next ?

    too many trolls, too little time.

  299. @Johann Ricke

    That’s just thuggish bullying gone very wrong. I was beaten like that, a few times, at school, and if I had fallen and hit my head, those bullies might have been killers, too. Societies that worship dominance, force, intimidation and bullying, like the Five Eyes, will suffer such tragedies and increasingly so.

  300. @Alden

    Jung Chang is a compradore who knows what the White Boss likes to read re. China. Try Han Suyin for better literature and history. You racists sure hate China’s rise, under the CCP, don’t you. It confounds your delusions of racial and cultural superiority. Suck it up, princess.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  301. @RadicalCenter

    Even worse than the median are the deciles, and wealth inequality is even worse than income inequality. The Land of the Free(loader).

  302. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Read about how the Chinese treated the Austronesians in Taiwan & visit the Philippines which relies on US AID while Phil-Chinese (Fukien) business tycoons drive past poor families picking through the garbage around Jollibees.

    For the sake of insult to injury, the Fukien in the Philippines act as a drug dealing conduit to Chinese cartels & flood the squats with shabu (Meth) which caused the drug war.

    Every poster here should take a trip to Philippines. And although American taxpayer money keeps the Austronesians from doing what they did in Indonesia, the Fukiens are not grateful.

  303. antibeast says:
    @denk

    Do you know what would have happened if the Soviet Comintern agents succeeded in taking over China before Chiang purged them from the KMT in 1927? They would have installed Soviet-style Communism in China which would have seen Stalinist-style ‘dekulakization’, Soviet-style gulags, Ukraine-style Holodomor and mass population transfers to achieve the ‘Socialist Revolution’.

    Thanks but no thanks.

    Chiang dumped the USSR and decided to partner with which Western country with the most advanced technology and the best trained military in the world?

    Germany.

    From 1927 to 1937, Republican China experienced the fastest industrial growth of any country in the world, surpassing British India, Tsarist Russia. Stalin’s USSR and Imperial Japan. Compare that to what happened to Russia after Stalin took over.

    Lastly, you’re drinking too much of the politically correct ‘Evul White Pipul’ spiel. Chiang chose Germany as his strategic partner because he knew the Treaty of Versailles prohibited the Germans from 1) manufacturing any weapons and 2) rebuilding their military in Germany. So Chiang bought German technology to manufacture weapons in China, then hired German engineers as well as German military officers to train Chinese engineers and soldiers. That was the best deal Chiang got from a White Western country: GERMANY!

    Guess who stayed behind the International Settlements to save Chinese civilians from the rampaging Imperial Japanese Army troops in Shanghai? A GERMAN NAZI named John Rabe.

    Moral of the Story: NOT ALL WHITES ARE BAD OR EVIL.

    In fact, most ‘White’ people are not even Westerners as they live in Latin America or Eastern Europe. They’re as much victims of the rapacious rulers of the Capitalist West as anybody else.

    • Replies: @denk
  304. denk says:
    @antibeast

    Re CCP vs KMT, I already rest my case.

    Germany

    If you have been reading my posts, should’ve noticed my ire is directed at the [[[fiveliars]]], this is the core of the ENA, new ENA, nine eyes, fourteen eyes….with FUKUS always as ring leaders.

    To me, the Germans are the more honest amongst the whites.
    b of MOA, William Engdah, Carlton Meyer [German/Hebrew ?] comes to mind.

    But lately , Germany seem to be joining the new ENA bandwagon,
    including this Uighur psyop.

    i ALSO find many high profile Germans such as The Zenz, Mearsheimer , Abetz, driving the yellow peril propaganda.
    There’r also many teutonic sounding sinophobes in UNZ alone.
    Rather disappointing

    • Replies: @HeebHunter
    , @antibeast
  305. @denk

    Those “Germans” are the atlantik brücke traitorous subhumans or mentally tortured cucks, a product of “denazification” by our favorite gang of english speaking criminals.

    Germany is still an occupied country. Allied shits have no excuses though, and GOD is punishing them.

    • Thanks: denk
  306. antibeast says:
    @denk

    Re CCP vs KMT, I already rest my case.

    By the way, the ‘old’ CCP founded in Shanghai which Chiang purged is totally different from the ‘new’ CCP that emerged in Yan’an at the end of the Long March which saw Mao assuming the leadership of the CCP. Yan’an was the birthplace of the Maoist ideology of ‘People’s Revolution’ which saw the CCP wage a ‘People’s War’ against the Imperial Japanese Army in the Northeast. The ‘old’ CCP was full of Fifth-Columnists funded and supported by the Soviet Comintern. Chiang saw through their attempts at political subversion under the guise of social reform. Had Chiang not purge them, Mao would not have the chance to reinvent the ‘new’ CCP with his Maoist ideology in Yan’an which would have meant a Stalinist-style Soviet Communism imposed on China by the Soviet Comintern which is exactly what happened to Eastern Europe and Central Asia.

    I am not praising the KMT which was infested with ‘gangster-capitalists’ who made their vast fortunes from the Opium Trade but merely pointing out the crucial role played by Germany in training and arming the Chinese Nationalist Army which fought and tied down 80% of the Imperial Japanese Army for four years in China. The period of 1927-1937 saw Sino-German Cooperation reach its peak which allowed Chiang to buildup the Chinese Nationalist Army to the point that it could fight the Japanese to a military stalemate. Had Chiang surrendered to the Japanese, Hitler would have asked Japan to attack the Russian Far East, thus opening a second front in the Nazi war against Stalin’s USSR. That would have changed the outcome of WWII and altered the course of world history.

    As it happened, Chiang stood his ground and refused to surrender to tempting offers made by the Japanese who wanted China to become part of their Empire in East Asia. That forced the Japanese to launch the Southern Campaign which led to the bombing of Pearl Harbor and the entry of America into WWII.

    No matter how you view his politics, Chiang deserves credit for saving China from Soviet Communism (under Stalin) and Japanese Imperialism (under Hirohito).

    The rest, as they say, is history.

  307. @denk

    While the US and UK still have some working six-guns and bull-whips, they really are not in a position suited to giving orders.

  308. antibeast says:
    @Astuteobservor II

    The US Deep State also masterminded the whole ‘sex-n-drugs’ craze that swept America in the 60s and 70s by having the CIA smuggle into the USA tons of drugs from the Golden Triangle during the Vietnam War in order to ‘pacify’ both the White Vietnam War protestors as well as the Black Civil Rights activists. Then Reagan declared the ‘War on Drugs’ which led to mass incarceration of Blacks while legalizing Latino Illegals by the millions to destroy the Black Working Class. Corporate America then started the wholesale ‘outsourcing’ of manufacturing industries to destroy the White Working Class. The result is the creation of the vast US Underclass which is dependent on welfare handouts from the State while being addicted to ‘sex-n-drugs’. Reagan also embarked on a massive increase in US Defense spending even though the CIA knew that the Soviet Union was about to collapse.

    This class warfare has been going on for five decades and is now being disguised as ‘identity politics’, pitting all kinds of racial, ethnic, sexual and gender groups against each other while massively concentrating wealth and power into the US Oligarchy.

  309. Miro23 says:
    @ebear

    So basically, the US temporarily extended dollar hegemony by hollowing out US industry and creating a major economic rival where none previously existed. Well done guys! Of course those chickens are now coming home to roost, but that’s OK, since the parties behind this historic sell-out knew this day would come and wisely diversified their own holdings worldwide.

    Not sure that they knew this day would come. Maybe they thought that the Chinese would be permanent slaves on the plantation – but in any event it didn’t work out – and they have the problem of dealing with resurgent nationalist China.

  310. Cking says:

    Poverty, caused by the Fed/Wall St. system, is the actual national security crisis. The US economy suffers because the Wall St. political system spends too much money on war. We just spent $7 Trillion dollars before, during, and after the 9/11/Iraqi War. Our US national economy has never recovered, from the Iraqi War and the 2008 Financial Meltdown; only the 1%’s assets, the Stock Market fares, dependent on Fed transfusions. Over $40 Trillion dollars was given to Wall St. trading houses since 2008 to the present. The US government will not retrieve $Trillions of dollars that can’t be accounted for, lost, and/or Stolen. War does not benefit the United States and it won’t benefit Russia or China either. Stop looking for enemies abroad, we have a domestic enemy that has taken over the US banking/finance/investing sector. The Wall St. owned two party political system, the Federal Reserve Bank, the US Treasury, and the Wall St. system demands reorganization.

  311. antibeast says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Just as there is no love lost between the Phil-Chinese & the Spanish Mestizos in Philippines the Mexicans & Chinese will be at one another’s throats in the USA.

    Most Filipinos have Chinese not Spanish ancestry as proven by genetic studies as the few Spaniards who settled in Spanish Philippines lived apart from the natives. And they number some 30% of the population with Chinese ancestry vs 3% of the population with Spanish or European ancestry. These Filipinos of Chinese ancestry have played major roles in Philippine History, including its national hero, its first Philippine President, majority of its Presidents including the current one, Duterte and the previous one, Aquino whose mother also served as President. Marcos also has Chinese ancestry as does the most famous Philippine General who fought against the Americans in the Philippine-American War. Lots of Spanish or European mestizos have become models, actors or celebrities but they comprise a small portion of the Philippine population.

    The Chinese immigrants in Southeast Asia tend to intermarry and assimilate in one or two generations, or acculturate in the case of the peranakans in Singapore and Malaysia. And this trend didn’t start with Western Colonialism as Chinese emigration, trade and diplomacy with Southeast Asia goes back thousands of years before Europeans arrived. Even the Austronesians supposedly trace their roots to mainland Asia who emigrated five thousand years ago to Southeast Asia.

  312. @Donald A Thomson

    PPP means a renminbi goes a lot further in China than a dollar in the USA. Visitors to China remark on the great camps of homeless, living amidst piss and shit, in all Chinese large cities. Oops-I mean in the USA, the ‘Shining Shithouse on a Hill’.

  313. @Smith

    The ‘Market’ ie money power and the iron law of supply and demand, is a fine servant, and a vicious master. In China it serves, in the West, it rules.

    • Replies: @Smith
  314. @antibeast

    Indeed they had Democracy and elections in Taiwan. One name on the ballot —Chiang’s.

    • Replies: @antibeast
  315. antibeast says:
    @ebear

    As a thought experiment, try and picture China today without the last 40 years of:

    1. Massive US investment capital directed to Chinese export based industries.
    2. US owned multinational corporations relocating to China.
    3. An open door policy towards Chinese students at major US universities.

    Dude, your facts are wrong! This oft-repeated myth makes it appear as if US multinationals went into China and transferred their industrial capacity to Chinese factories owned by US multinationals. Most ‘outsourcing’ are done by ASIAN contract manufacturers such as Foxconn, Li&Fung, Flex, etc. while US multinationals only do the marketing for the US market.

    The USA imposed sanctions on China after Tiananmen in 1989 which lasted until China acceded to the WTO in 2001. The ‘outsourcing’ came later when US multinationals such as Apple hired Asian contract manufacturers like Foxconn which had invested earlier in the 80s in China to manufacture their products for the Chinese market. Most US multinationals such as Apple don’t even own a single factory but ‘outsource’ their entire product manufacturing to Asian contract manufacturers such as Foxconn. There was no ‘massive’ US investment capital directed at Chinese export-based industries but there was substantial ASIAN investments in China-based export industries by ASIAN contract manufacturers like Foxconn. The Chinese then learned the trade from these ASIAN manufacturers and started churning out products for the Chinese and world markets.

  316. antibeast says:
    @GomezAdddams

    Indeed they had Democracy and elections in Taiwan. One name on the ballot —Chiang’s.

    No, they didn’t. Chiang and his son ruled Taiwan under Martial Law for 38 years. The first Presidential Elections in Taiwan took place in 1996.

  317. @ebear

    More crying about how granddaddies pimped your country was a ok. You deserve “your country”.

  318. Smith says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Market serves no one except itself.

    Those who seek to tame tiger will get eaten by tiger.

  319. @Neoconned

    The newer American generations spend their income as soon as they get. Actually, faster than that since most of them have taken thousands in debt to spend on cars, college degrees(with ever diminishing returns on value), luxury goods, etc. I live around them and it’s clear as day how overleveraged everyone is. i.e. you can’t possibly be making enough to afford a newish BMW working as a cashier. Every week I get offers in the mail, email, etc. for new credit cards, loans, etc.

    I cannot see how an economy like this could possibly be interpreted as a strong one. It’s a balloon filled to the brim with hot air, and it WILL burst eventually. The question is when. And the answer is “probably soon”. We are carried by rapidly decreasing momentum and the engine has been jammed up with all sorts of socio-cultural sticks and sap. No thinking person has a positive perception of the USA’s future, even most unthinking people don’t.

    Rates of “deaths by despair”(newsspeak for seppuku) are growing at an exponential pace (especially among the youth, i.e. 300+% over 10 yrs for 18-24s), Nihilism abounds, half of America’s children are taught to hate their own kind by it’s media and academic establishments, drug use is rampant (numbers are far higher than the official ones, I can tell you that with certainty) and everyone is spending money they don’t have. It’s a withered husk of what it once was and deteriorating with extraordinary rapidity.

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