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* CORE. Richard Hanania – Freedom House, Woke Imperialists. Traditionally, Freedom House just penalized countries for not hewing to American geopolitical interests (e.g. see What I Learned from Freedom House…). Now, it’s transitioned to also penalizing them for opposing liberal/Woke positions, such as Poland’s opposition to “LGBT and gender ideology”, while the “connection between how many genders a government acknowledges and its level of democracy is never explained.” But I would say this is a good thing, since it just works to discredit Freedom House as an authoritative source on “freedom” outside the Core West.

Hanania also beginning a habit of making political predictions. (He has a good record of being correct). His main prediction is that 2024 will probably be Biden vs. Trump. At this point, I agree. I always though fantasies about Biden’s dementia were more rightoid cope than reality, and I underestimated the extent to which MAGA’ism isn’t really an ideology as such but a personality cult centered around the man which his eviction from social media did little to deflate.

* Polish nationalist @awslist (banned from Twitter multiple times) now has a YouTube channel called Hot Polish Takes. His first video is Polish Zeitgeist 2021.

* Robert Stark – New Pluralist Vision for California. Our podcaster is looking to go into California politics with an “Alt Left” style program focusing around UBI and anti-Woke signaling.

* XENOS. Robin Hanson – Parsing Pictures of Mars Muck. Probably the strongest possible case for the “pro-life” interpretation of the recent fungi-like images from Mars. (Not convinced, but appreciate Hanson for thinking it through).

* SJW. Larry Sanger – Wikipedia Is Badly Biased. Not really a secret, e.g. see Emil Kirkegaard’s comments on the SJW mafia there that patrol HBD/IQ articles, the censorship of Steve Sailer’s article to prevent positive mentions such as the expert survey that identified him as the most accurate journalist on IQ. Still, the criticism carries more weight when it comes from Wikipedia’s co-founder.

* Scott Alexander – Book Review: Arabian Nights… “is a book about love, wonder, magic, and morality. About genies, ape-people, and rhinoceroses who run around with elephants impaled on their horns. About how to use indexical uncertainty to hack the simulation running the universe to return the outcome you want. But most of all, it’s a book about how your wife is cheating on you with a black man.” I actually read it as a schoolkid, but don’t remember any of the stuff about the interracial cuckoldry, which is apparently one of the biggest themes in it (Steve Sailer IIRC once noted the same thing). Must have been one of those gay PC-13 abridged versions.

* Ron Unz – “The Truth” and “The Whole Truth” About the Origins of Covid-19. I think this is the latest update that contains links to all his main works on the topic.

* Vitalik Buterin donated $1B worth of Shiba Inu (a satire on Doge Coin, which was in turn the original memecoin) to an Indian Corona charity, the anti-ageing Methuselah Foundation, and a couple of other organizations. There was a tradition amongst these memecoin creators to lock liquidity in Buterin’s wallet, on the not unreasonable assumption he would never do anything about it. Ended up getting rugged, LOL.

* N.S. Lyons – Are we in a 500 Year Religious Revolution? I haven’t actually read this, but I saw it mentioned on Twitter as a good article.

* Insomniac Resurrected finds this gem by @KyivPride calling for a mobilization of the LGBT community in Donbass, “or in other words, let’s make Donbass queer!” The note that its sponsored by USAID “From the American People” is the cherry on the pudding. Not that I oppose such cultural exchanges, it’s pretty funny to imagine the seethe from Azov about this.

 

 
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  1. This is the current Open Thread, where anything goes – within reason.

    If you are new to my work, start here.

    Commenting rules. Please note that anonymous comments are not allowed.

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Based overview of (among other things) the partisan BBC coverage, Biden sanctions, Matthew Rojansky and clearly chronicled Twitter hypocrisy, with an emphasis on serial liar Evelyn Farkas:

    https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2021/05/22/bbc-limits-and-related-censorship-on-russia-coverage/

  2. I always though fantasies about Biden’s dementia were more rightoid cope than reality

    Cope schmope. The point was/is to demoralize and upset the opposition. Just like referring to it as the stolen election is.

    • Replies: @Some Guy
    @silviosilver

    I mean Biden can barely read a teleprompter now, another three years isn't going to do wonders for him.

    , @Pericles
    @silviosilver

    Not to mention both those were true.

  3. Anatoly? What the fuck is with Russian Times? This slob at Energy (US) calls Russian gas through Nordstream ‘dirty”. This is the headline:

    ‘Too much hype over environmental friendliness’: Former energy minister says Russian gas four times cleaner than American LNG

    This was my comment, rejected by RT:

    “Jennifer Mulhern Granholm (born February 5, 1959) is a Canadian-American politician, lawyer, educator, author, and political commentator serving as the 16th U.S. Energy Secretary. She’s a liar and look at her background. How is SHE qualified to say ANYTHING on the subject, she’s a political commenter and lawyer with zero experience in this area? Alexander Novak, who comes with extensive energy credentials and a bonafide industrial education and experience is absolutely right and in more ways than he says. Forgetting the origins, fracked vs. drilled, there’s the energy expended converting gas to LNG, then the energy spent hauling it on LNG carriers, what, 10,000 miles to Germany? Look at Nordstream: from the ground, to a pipe, delivered 2600 miles, clean as a hound’s tooth. Doesn’t get any better than that. The U.S. is grinding pipeline projects to a halt all over the U.S., and what do they do? Put the crude on RAIL CARS and haul it. Idiots, so again, U.S. energy Czars (interesting they use Soviet terms sometimes, heh) lie their asses off, they’ve been doing it since Nixon, because you know, the world was out of oil and gas 45 years ago. Pipelines are clean, surface non-pipeline transport dirty. Another U.S. rhetoric-fail. They think we can’t see the politics of a woman who knows nothing of energy telling lies given to her by liars from the energy sector. It makes of the United States a most unserious government. They lie where the truth will do.”

    I told the truth. RT rejected it. Starting to think RT is a front for the ZOGs. I used no profanity, I quoted Novak as an expert (he IS) and Jennifer Mulhern Granholm, Department of Energy, a political hack that doesn’t know shit from shinola about energy, I mentioned that ZOG lies.. And RT rejected the comment.

    RT is a front, right? As in, not really pro-Russian if we get a little too close to the truth? I thought it was a thoughtful comment, but they dumped it. Truth be told, I’m a little pissed off about it.

    Is RT a Jewish front?

    • Replies: @Passer by
    @Jim Christian

    Back then you couldn't post large comments on RT, only small comments. Dunno how it is now.

    Nearly zero Government media will give you articles like this, though. Considering that media is thought to have built-in liberal bias, it is incredible that you can see something like this on RT, or that the writer actually received a medal by Putin.

    https://russian.rt.com/opinion/825520-popova-ssha-baiden-zapad-liberalizm-ideologiya

    Replies: @Dmitry

    , @not-me
    @Jim Christian

    Yes it is. If you pay attention to their open eds, and articles in general, you will notice the j-slant. In general in Russia they control much of the media, they don't dare (yet) to be so openly anti-russian, but they have been working on the young. Navalny's case: the fact alone that he was working for the West should have disqualified him in the eyes of Russians, but still many youngsters, women, and blinded others supported him. I pity Russia. They will need to get over many of the ideological rotten seeds planted by the bolshevik period. First law by batiushka Lenin was to make antisemitism illegal. Today is also illegal. I wonder if anti-russism is there illegal. To the Russian speakers, are there any Russian (not West puppets) internet sites within Russia good to visit?

    Replies: @melanf

  4. Only one meme for this week’s thread since people were griping so much.

    PEACE 😇

     

    • Replies: @Svevlad
    @A123

    more rightoid seething

    90% just don't want to deal with the bullshit and retardoids kvetching to put on a mask

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon

  5. Some good auto racing replays since the last time I mentioned the topic.

    PEACE 😇
    ___________

    IMSA Michelin Pilot Challenge Series at Mid-Ohio:

    Trans Am Series racing at Laguna Seca (there are a few sound issues in this one):

    • Replies: @Jim Christian
    @A123

    Laguna Seca. The Cork Screw. Rode a 70s-era two stroke Yamaha 750 over that when I was in the Navy out in San Diego. Very tricky track. Stupid Fast. Fast is good. Fast is redemption, it makes you giggle under your helmet. There is nothing like it.

  6. Evangelism rooted in personal experience arose as an ੧੮੨੦s reaction to EIC turning Hindu.

    Also the lived experience over written logic is dual purpose. One it rips off Bhakti, ੨ the academic structures cannot keep up with technical/social change so open up the books to those well connected so to speak.

    Interesting that the Woke can be called christian/will eventually convert. Other religions seem to be going ultra trad in response, institutionally I mean.

    So is the conclusion that christians are gay & it took ੫੦੦/੨੦੦੦ years to figure this out? Hindus will/have converted though.

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

    • Replies: @Jim Christian
    @Jatt Aryaa

    Are you insane?

    Replies: @Kent Nationalist, @Jatt Aryaa

    , @Svevlad
    @Jatt Aryaa

    EIC?

    It mostly arose as the result of the Mayflower not being sunk to the bottom of the ocean, sparking American religious (more like cult) autism, on top of their mandatory genetic autism (from the NW European gene-lib populations they're descended from)

    Replies: @Jatt Aryaa

    , @Coconuts
    @Jatt Aryaa

    It is only in the US, I think this looks more like an elite or top down thing in Europe.

    The EIC continuing to keep missionaries out and build temples would have been interesting.

  7. @Jatt Aryaa
    Evangelism rooted in personal experience arose as an ੧੮੨੦s reaction to EIC turning Hindu.

    Also the lived experience over written logic is dual purpose. One it rips off Bhakti, ੨ the academic structures cannot keep up with technical/social change so open up the books to those well connected so to speak.

    Interesting that the Woke can be called christian/will eventually convert. Other religions seem to be going ultra trad in response, institutionally I mean.

    So is the conclusion that christians are gay & it took ੫੦੦/੨੦੦੦ years to figure this out? Hindus will/have converted though.

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

    Replies: @Jim Christian, @Svevlad, @Coconuts

    Are you insane?

    • Replies: @Kent Nationalist
    @Jim Christian

    His brain is broken from a religion of worshipping Aryans who subjugated his ancestors.

    Replies: @Jatt Aryaa

    , @Jatt Aryaa
    @Jim Christian

    Did you read the article faggot?

    https://theupheaval.substack.com/p/are-we-in-a-500-year-religious-revolution

    Replies: @Jim Christian

  8. @A123
    Some good auto racing replays since the last time I mentioned the topic.

    PEACE 😇
    ___________

    IMSA Michelin Pilot Challenge Series at Mid-Ohio:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pb5GAfRdUS0

    Trans Am Series racing at Laguna Seca (there are a few sound issues in this one):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXh6L0FVOy8

    Replies: @Jim Christian

    Laguna Seca. The Cork Screw. Rode a 70s-era two stroke Yamaha 750 over that when I was in the Navy out in San Diego. Very tricky track. Stupid Fast. Fast is good. Fast is redemption, it makes you giggle under your helmet. There is nothing like it.

    • Thanks: A123
  9. @Jim Christian
    Anatoly? What the fuck is with Russian Times? This slob at Energy (US) calls Russian gas through Nordstream 'dirty". This is the headline:

    ‘Too much hype over environmental friendliness’: Former energy minister says Russian gas four times cleaner than American LNG
     
    This was my comment, rejected by RT:

    "Jennifer Mulhern Granholm (born February 5, 1959) is a Canadian-American politician, lawyer, educator, author, and political commentator serving as the 16th U.S. Energy Secretary. She's a liar and look at her background. How is SHE qualified to say ANYTHING on the subject, she's a political commenter and lawyer with zero experience in this area? Alexander Novak, who comes with extensive energy credentials and a bonafide industrial education and experience is absolutely right and in more ways than he says. Forgetting the origins, fracked vs. drilled, there's the energy expended converting gas to LNG, then the energy spent hauling it on LNG carriers, what, 10,000 miles to Germany? Look at Nordstream: from the ground, to a pipe, delivered 2600 miles, clean as a hound's tooth. Doesn't get any better than that. The U.S. is grinding pipeline projects to a halt all over the U.S., and what do they do? Put the crude on RAIL CARS and haul it. Idiots, so again, U.S. energy Czars (interesting they use Soviet terms sometimes, heh) lie their asses off, they've been doing it since Nixon, because you know, the world was out of oil and gas 45 years ago. Pipelines are clean, surface non-pipeline transport dirty. Another U.S. rhetoric-fail. They think we can't see the politics of a woman who knows nothing of energy telling lies given to her by liars from the energy sector. It makes of the United States a most unserious government. They lie where the truth will do."

    I told the truth. RT rejected it. Starting to think RT is a front for the ZOGs. I used no profanity, I quoted Novak as an expert (he IS) and Jennifer Mulhern Granholm, Department of Energy, a political hack that doesn't know shit from shinola about energy, I mentioned that ZOG lies.. And RT rejected the comment.

    RT is a front, right? As in, not really pro-Russian if we get a little too close to the truth? I thought it was a thoughtful comment, but they dumped it. Truth be told, I'm a little pissed off about it.

    Is RT a Jewish front?

    Replies: @Passer by, @not-me

    Back then you couldn’t post large comments on RT, only small comments. Dunno how it is now.

    Nearly zero Government media will give you articles like this, though. Considering that media is thought to have built-in liberal bias, it is incredible that you can see something like this on RT, or that the writer actually received a medal by Putin.

    https://russian.rt.com/opinion/825520-popova-ssha-baiden-zapad-liberalizm-ideologiya

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @Passer by

    I guess he was complaining about website comments system, not whatever content they commissioned (which is there to promote a particular strategy depending on the country in which content of different languages will be consumed - the content varies wildly depending on what they believed to be their audience).

    When people post a comment or add "like" on a comment in RT website, The Drive website and Buzzfeed website, then is going to a database that is managed by entrepreneurs who are alumni of Israeli army cyberwarefare units, although nobody would care about comments.

    So for this reason, I assume paranoid anti-Israel conspiracy theorists will have been complaining about the website commenting process, as they didn't like to send information to database that belongs to Israeli army cyberwarfare alumni.


    -

    He was joking at 19:40 in the video, how the growing database is starting to worry him, even though the information saved is only text.

    So he has a lot of comments and I somehow doubt they actually have time to analyze them, and in reality I can't see how internet comments of unimportant internet browsers could have much interest for intelligence services.

    But for people with paranoia (or smoking too much cannabis), then it is probably a thing to complain about their commenting process.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ALerMT9dt8

    Replies: @Passer by, @Jim Christian

  10. @Jim Christian
    @Jatt Aryaa

    Are you insane?

    Replies: @Kent Nationalist, @Jatt Aryaa

    His brain is broken from a religion of worshipping Aryans who subjugated his ancestors.

    • Agree: Yevardian
    • Thanks: Jim Christian
    • LOL: sher singh, Bashibuzuk
    • Replies: @Jatt Aryaa
    @Kent Nationalist

    Imagine being the Aryans who subjugated India & Europe, and not an Anglo christcuck.

    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/781981619073318943/846343183499919370/main-qimg-64fe04b0a7710527ff80ff5957d531c6.png

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @DNS, @Max Payne

  11. Russia’s PR must improve dramatically if Moscow wants to have a shot at presenting a viable long-term alternative to the western sphere. That shouldn’t be too difficult as the West’s descent into pure demonic madness becomes more and more cartoonish by the day. The problem is Russian leadership seems to be stuck in a Soviet-era mentality. When most regular westerners look at Russia today, they don’t associate it with any particular set of civilizational values. They associate Russia with “corruption” and “oligarchy”. Meanwhile, the West is immediately associated with “liberalism”, “secularism” etc. Unlike in the case of Russia, there is no ambiguity. This needs to change.

    Instead of raging about “neo-nazis” and “fascists” in Ukraine, Russia should be calling the Kyiv regime out for what it really is: a crypto-Judaic, ultraliberal entity that is genociding the Ukrainian people and using misguided Slavic nationalism for slavophobic, globalist purposes.

    The soviet nostalgia also needs to die ASAP. It is cringey, decrepit, and utterly unattractive for anyone under the age of 70. Sovietism must be explicitly denounced as what it was: a hypermaterialistic experiment with Jewish origins that almost succeeded in wiping out Russian civilization. It’s a disgrace that so many Russian nationalists are still deriding Solzhenitsyn as a “traitor”. This kind of mentality is the Russian equivalent of Boomerconism.

    Russia should more explicitly embrace a traditionalist, pro-life, religious message that will be in clear contrast with the “woke”, satanic and doomed West. It is time for Russia to re-engage in the global civilizational struggle. The current iteration of “Russian nationalism” is too soft – it’s an intermediate step between sovietism and western liberalism that is spiritually weak, stands for very little, and so is unsustainable in the long run. It is destined to crumble as soon as a critical mass of “hip” urbanite youth starts demanding the right to sodomy and “liberation” (I hope Russians are looking at what is going on with Polish youth and taking it as a warning sign).

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Lokke


    Russia should more explicitly embrace a traditionalist, pro-life, religious message that will be in clear contrast with the “woke”, satanic and doomed West.
     
    Russia is in an existential struggle with the West, so the insane wokism benefits them. Game theory. Whether it is true or not, Russia perceives the West (and by extension all Westerners) as irredeemably hostile. There is enough to show that it is true, from petty harassment in every area, incl. sports, to Western revisionist myths about WWII.

    The hostile attitudes are very widespread and include not only liberals, but also large parts of the conservative spectrum. Often it seems that the two sides are competing who shows more hostility to anything Russian. The occasional dissenters - like Trump for a while, before him Berlusconi or Fillon - are hounded out from the public space. At some point this is a society problem and not just the elites.

    Who is there to reach out to? By definition, strengthening a hostile West is self-defeating for Russia. For all we know, Russia funds BLM and the crazy academics - more West goes mad, weaker they are. After all West enthusiastically funded Afghan proto-Taleban to fight Russia. It is ugly, but it is existential and the traditionalists in the West are too weak or too anti-Russian to matter.

    Replies: @Thorfinnsson

    , @Felix Keverich
    @Lokke

    Jewish power and control over Western societies is overwhelming. Attempting to win over Western public opinion with anti-Semetism will get us nowhere. Only good for trolling. We should promote anti-Semetism domestically as a form of immunisation strategy.

    Tradcons are a joke, and this is how the vast majority of Russians see them. Imposing religious conservatism on Russians will provoke a poweful backlash from society, which is the mistake that Polish conservatives made.

    Whatever you think about Sovietism, it's a powerful set of symbols, respected by people around the world and feared by the West, which alone makes it useful.

    Replies: @The Big Red Scary, @Pericles, @Thorfinnsson, @Passer by

    , @Coconuts
    @Lokke


    Russia’s PR must improve dramatically if Moscow wants to have a shot at presenting a viable long-term alternative to the western sphere.
     
    Looking at it realistically China, India, the Islamic World, Africa are all more likely to generate alternatives to the West long-term than Russia. Russia just lacks the weight of numbers needed. As it goes, most of these places are also becoming more connected to and directly involved with Western countries than Russia is.

    Russia may be able to compete with the US for influence in Europe, but if it wants it at the moment probably should emphasise Sovietism, because among people in their early 20s Socialism, Marxism, the hard progressive left is one of the contemporary 'in-things'. When talking to the West they could choose more women and Russians who look Central Asian as spokesmen, and talk about the longstanding Russian understanding of the solidarity and unity of working peoples, world peace and progressive humanity. Russia will seem more trendy, but could also position itself as more wise, understanding as a result of the Soviet era how progressivism needs to be balanced with more traditional and sustainable values.

    Another productive approach would be talking about deconstructing colonialist narratives about Russia in the West which obviously derive from mid-century German influence; this would be unpopular in Eastern Europe but would likely find an audience in the core West.

    Tradcon will probably be the next thing after this new burst of leftism has faded away but that could be a couple of decades into the future, in the meantime Tradcons need to find effective ways of preserving as much as possible of what they value.

    Replies: @Jatt Aryaa, @Dmitry

    , @Yevardian
    @Lokke


    It’s a disgrace that so many Russian nationalists are still deriding Solzhenitsyn as a “traitor”. This kind of mentality is the Russian equivalent of Boomerconism.
     
    What's wrong with calling a spade a spade?

    Replies: @TheTotallyAnonymous

    , @Anatoly Karlin
    @Lokke


    It’s a disgrace that so many Russian nationalists are still deriding Solzhenitsyn as a “traitor”.
     
    That is literally something that sovoks, not Russian nationalists, do.

    Kindly refrain from offering us "advice" on what to do when you don't have a clue what is going on.

    Replies: @Lokke

    , @Sinotibetan
    @Lokke

    You are right about those 'hip' urbanite Russian youths. I think this is one of Putin's failures. What's the point of hypersonic weapons or astute diplomacy if the soft power from the West poisoning the minds of the young is not countered appropriately? Interestingly, Chinese younger generation are becoming more conservative :-
    https://jingdaily.com/gen-z-conservatism-is-changing-fashion-in-china/

    Unfortunately for Russia, their youths tend to be like this girl in these videos :-
    https://youtu.be/kIIMrYH3RFQ
    https://youtu.be/RgobeaklsVg
    At least, that's my impression. I hope I am wrong.

    Anatoly once said he thinks Putin reads this blog - I hope it's true and he reads some of the comments here as well. I presume the majority of the anti Putin /anti Government youths are liberal Western worshippers who wish Russia remould itself to be 'just like America'?

    Replies: @Blinky Bill, @Dmitry

  12. @Anatoly Karlin
    This is the current Open Thread, where anything goes - within reason.

    If you are new to my work, start here.

    Commenting rules. Please note that anonymous comments are not allowed.

    Replies: @Mikhail

    Based overview of (among other things) the partisan BBC coverage, Biden sanctions, Matthew Rojansky and clearly chronicled Twitter hypocrisy, with an emphasis on serial liar Evelyn Farkas:

    https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2021/05/22/bbc-limits-and-related-censorship-on-russia-coverage/

    • Thanks: The Wild Geese Howard
  13. mal says:

    Between May 2020, and April 2021, US lost 2.1 million working age population, or about 1% in a year.

    Working Age Population: Aged 15-64: All for the United States was 205446270.62596 Persons in April of 2021, according to the United States Federal Reserve. Historically, Working Age Population: Aged 15-64: All for the United States reached a record high of 207555510.92749 in May of 2020 and a record low of 135237302.53426 in January of 1977.

    https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/working-age-population-aged-15-64-all-persons-for-the-united-states-fed-data.html

    First, the good news. They didn’t die of COVID or anything like that, just got old. US population continues to grow.

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/POPTOTUSA647NWDB

    Also, the catastrophic drop is a bit of a statistical artifact as every 10 years US has census and that always bumps the numbers up a bit, but in 2020, for the first time in history, numbers went down after the bump. If you smooth it all out, actual drop is still massive 1.2 or so million.

    If you look at the shape of the plot, and consider that US TFR went below replacement in 2008, US going to start running out of children soon, so those losses will not be replaced. Also consider that US life expectancy is not that great for a civilized county, so those population losses will start showing up among old people unless life expectancy improves or we start importing millions of immigrants. (From Africa and Afghanistan?). If not, 2030 census will show significantly lower numbers.

    Key takeaway from this is that any sort of sustained inflation or hyperinflation is impossible with this sort of demographics. Retired people spend about 1/3 less vs when they were employed and US labor participation rate returned to the long term downward trend on top of the absolute demographic losses.

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CIVPART

    The Age of the American Consumer is over.

    American Consumer was the beating heart powering global economy since 1945 (with a brief exception in 2008-2009 when Chinese investment took over for a short period). It is no more. US government is stepping up to the plate with $6 trillion budgets, and $8 Trillion projected by early 2030’s. This will result in massive deflationary pressure.

    By mid 2030’s, US Government will have to spend at least $10 Trillion annually or face economic difficulties. And there are only two economic objectives that can absorb this kind of cash – some kind of Universal Basic Income Scheme, or war.

    We can always reverse repo that cash at the Federal Reserve for more debt. 🙂

    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
    @mal

    I assume China is also beginning to lose working age population. Given the low and shrinking TFR there, the fall will be precipitous. The EU and other developed countries are in even worse shape in this regards.

    Indian consumers will pick up some slack, but I am not optimistic as regards Africa, and nowhere else is growing.

    Replies: @Abelard Lindsey, @Eugene Norman, @Marshal Marlow

    , @Passer by
    @mal

    I think you will like Econimica.

    https://econimica.blogspot.com

    Replies: @mal

    , @Mikel
    @mal


    any sort of sustained inflation or hyperinflation is impossible with this sort of demographics
     
    Have you ever heard of a country called Venezuela? It must have the most depressed demographics in the world. Venezuelans are leaving the country by the millions to wherever they can. Yet year after year it also keeps recording the highest inflation rate in the world outside maybe Zimbabwe.

    You should get acquainted with the old formula mv = pq

    US government is stepping up to the plate with $6 trillion budgets, and $8 Trillion projected by early 2030’s. This will result in massive deflationary pressure.
     
    Sure. There's nothing like the government spending trillions of dollars to cause massive deflations.

    Replies: @mal

    , @Yellowface Anon
    @mal

    I'm not sure how automation and AI (both elite-initiated or bottom-up efforts) go into the economic and demographic equation. It can both offset losses in labor pool and creating new forms of (more skill-intensive) jobs, or create mass unemployment on its own.

    (Or we'll have a 3rd century Rome scenario - lower population and workers moving to low-productivity sectors like farming means far less relevance of North America in the World's economy. I dunno, there is even a Schwab-Gates depopulation scenario)

    Replies: @mal

  14. Man, all this UFO talk has me jonesin’ to start new XCOM and XCOM 2 campaigns…

    Come to think of it…the ADVENT regime in XCOM 2 is a lot like the Biden regime with their human puppets and gene therapy experiments.

    The weirdest part of both games is that the Davis gang are on mankind’s side and you work for them running your spec ops death squad against the xenos.

    • Thanks: mal
    • Replies: @mal
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    Yes, love the X-Com 2!

    My favorite of the series was X-Com Apocalypse from the 90's. It had fully destructible environments and took place in the city where denizens would send you legal bills for damages you caused while fighting aliens. If you didn't pay they would get angry at you, up to sanctioning you on the market or attacking your bases.

    It was funny because sometimes it was cheaper to just let alien bombers attack rich districts unopposed rather than send in your interceptors and risk your stray missiles hitting office towers or whatever and then be presented with massive bill.

    I didn't have the funds to pay off a rich corporation once, so i manufactured a batch of advanced alien tech rocket launchers and sold them on the market. The corporation purchased them, outfitted a tactical mercenary squad with them, and hit my base. I lost like half of my facilities. That wasn't one of my best business plans. It was fun though.

    Replies: @Wency

  15. @mal
    Between May 2020, and April 2021, US lost 2.1 million working age population, or about 1% in a year.

    Working Age Population: Aged 15-64: All for the United States was 205446270.62596 Persons in April of 2021, according to the United States Federal Reserve. Historically, Working Age Population: Aged 15-64: All for the United States reached a record high of 207555510.92749 in May of 2020 and a record low of 135237302.53426 in January of 1977.
     
    https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/working-age-population-aged-15-64-all-persons-for-the-united-states-fed-data.html

    First, the good news. They didn't die of COVID or anything like that, just got old. US population continues to grow.

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/POPTOTUSA647NWDB

    Also, the catastrophic drop is a bit of a statistical artifact as every 10 years US has census and that always bumps the numbers up a bit, but in 2020, for the first time in history, numbers went down after the bump. If you smooth it all out, actual drop is still massive 1.2 or so million.

    If you look at the shape of the plot, and consider that US TFR went below replacement in 2008, US going to start running out of children soon, so those losses will not be replaced. Also consider that US life expectancy is not that great for a civilized county, so those population losses will start showing up among old people unless life expectancy improves or we start importing millions of immigrants. (From Africa and Afghanistan?). If not, 2030 census will show significantly lower numbers.

    Key takeaway from this is that any sort of sustained inflation or hyperinflation is impossible with this sort of demographics. Retired people spend about 1/3 less vs when they were employed and US labor participation rate returned to the long term downward trend on top of the absolute demographic losses.

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CIVPART

    The Age of the American Consumer is over.

    American Consumer was the beating heart powering global economy since 1945 (with a brief exception in 2008-2009 when Chinese investment took over for a short period). It is no more. US government is stepping up to the plate with $6 trillion budgets, and $8 Trillion projected by early 2030's. This will result in massive deflationary pressure.

    By mid 2030's, US Government will have to spend at least $10 Trillion annually or face economic difficulties. And there are only two economic objectives that can absorb this kind of cash - some kind of Universal Basic Income Scheme, or war.

    We can always reverse repo that cash at the Federal Reserve for more debt. :)

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Passer by, @Mikel, @Yellowface Anon

    I assume China is also beginning to lose working age population. Given the low and shrinking TFR there, the fall will be precipitous. The EU and other developed countries are in even worse shape in this regards.

    Indian consumers will pick up some slack, but I am not optimistic as regards Africa, and nowhere else is growing.

    • Agree: mal
    • Replies: @Abelard Lindsey
    @Triteleia Laxa

    China has lots of room for productivity growth, even with a declining population, which will drive economic growth for another 15-20 years before they sink into a Japan-like stagnation.

    , @Eugene Norman
    @Triteleia Laxa

    It seems we are in an intellectual fervour of reverse Malthusianism.

    Chinese growth might slow but it’s been forgotten that they have 300M rural workers who can add value over the next few generations. The first generation moves to factories and the next become technologists or city workers. Thus their dependency ratio isn’t like the west - the ratio of really productive workers to non productive workers or people (and rural farmers add little to GDP). Effectively these rural workers are like immigrants, they can’t even travel within China right now because of the hukou system. The CCP will open this up over time.

    , @Marshal Marlow
    @Triteleia Laxa

    China has got time before its vast pool of peasants become city folk.

    But the question is, what can they do to enlarge their working class? I'm guessing that China will never go down the lets-import-foreigners trap the western world has fallen in to. But what will it do instead? I'm thinking they might find ways to actually make it viable for couples to have families by intervening in the economy in ways that enables one wage earner to afford to support a mortgage and a family of two.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon

  16. Classic excuse:

    https://www.rt.com/russia/524948-khodorkovsky-open-russia-dissolve/

    Some years back, Kirill Pankratov had an eXile article noting how Russian based “liberal” leaning orgs/venues would get Western NGO funding that would keep them going for about a year. Once that support ended, such sources would typically then say that they’d have to cease operations because of the government censorship.

    Rather ironically, some time after Pankratov’s article, the eXile editor Mark Ames said that a Russian government raid on eXile’s office led to a dramatic drop in Russian funding for his venue.

    No mention of how eXile’s content dramatically dropped after Ames was hired by RT to do soft society segments. Was eXile’s demise the result of that latter mentioned situation, or Ames’ stated government raid, or both?

    Was the stated government raid firmly confirmed as having happened? If so, what if any basis was there for it?

  17. But most of all, it’s a book about how your wife is cheating on you with a black man.”

    “You can’t make a ho a housewife.”
    -Dr. Dre

  18. @mal
    Between May 2020, and April 2021, US lost 2.1 million working age population, or about 1% in a year.

    Working Age Population: Aged 15-64: All for the United States was 205446270.62596 Persons in April of 2021, according to the United States Federal Reserve. Historically, Working Age Population: Aged 15-64: All for the United States reached a record high of 207555510.92749 in May of 2020 and a record low of 135237302.53426 in January of 1977.
     
    https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/working-age-population-aged-15-64-all-persons-for-the-united-states-fed-data.html

    First, the good news. They didn't die of COVID or anything like that, just got old. US population continues to grow.

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/POPTOTUSA647NWDB

    Also, the catastrophic drop is a bit of a statistical artifact as every 10 years US has census and that always bumps the numbers up a bit, but in 2020, for the first time in history, numbers went down after the bump. If you smooth it all out, actual drop is still massive 1.2 or so million.

    If you look at the shape of the plot, and consider that US TFR went below replacement in 2008, US going to start running out of children soon, so those losses will not be replaced. Also consider that US life expectancy is not that great for a civilized county, so those population losses will start showing up among old people unless life expectancy improves or we start importing millions of immigrants. (From Africa and Afghanistan?). If not, 2030 census will show significantly lower numbers.

    Key takeaway from this is that any sort of sustained inflation or hyperinflation is impossible with this sort of demographics. Retired people spend about 1/3 less vs when they were employed and US labor participation rate returned to the long term downward trend on top of the absolute demographic losses.

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CIVPART

    The Age of the American Consumer is over.

    American Consumer was the beating heart powering global economy since 1945 (with a brief exception in 2008-2009 when Chinese investment took over for a short period). It is no more. US government is stepping up to the plate with $6 trillion budgets, and $8 Trillion projected by early 2030's. This will result in massive deflationary pressure.

    By mid 2030's, US Government will have to spend at least $10 Trillion annually or face economic difficulties. And there are only two economic objectives that can absorb this kind of cash - some kind of Universal Basic Income Scheme, or war.

    We can always reverse repo that cash at the Federal Reserve for more debt. :)

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Passer by, @Mikel, @Yellowface Anon

    I think you will like Econimica.

    https://econimica.blogspot.com

    • Agree: mal
    • Replies: @mal
    @Passer by

    Yes, i read that on a regular basis.

    Replies: @Passer by

  19. @Passer by
    @Jim Christian

    Back then you couldn't post large comments on RT, only small comments. Dunno how it is now.

    Nearly zero Government media will give you articles like this, though. Considering that media is thought to have built-in liberal bias, it is incredible that you can see something like this on RT, or that the writer actually received a medal by Putin.

    https://russian.rt.com/opinion/825520-popova-ssha-baiden-zapad-liberalizm-ideologiya

    Replies: @Dmitry

    I guess he was complaining about website comments system, not whatever content they commissioned (which is there to promote a particular strategy depending on the country in which content of different languages will be consumed – the content varies wildly depending on what they believed to be their audience).

    When people post a comment or add “like” on a comment in RT website, The Drive website and Buzzfeed website, then is going to a database that is managed by entrepreneurs who are alumni of Israeli army cyberwarefare units, although nobody would care about comments.

    So for this reason, I assume paranoid anti-Israel conspiracy theorists will have been complaining about the website commenting process, as they didn’t like to send information to database that belongs to Israeli army cyberwarfare alumni.

    He was joking at 19:40 in the video, how the growing database is starting to worry him, even though the information saved is only text.

    So he has a lot of comments and I somehow doubt they actually have time to analyze them, and in reality I can’t see how internet comments of unimportant internet browsers could have much interest for intelligence services.

    But for people with paranoia (or smoking too much cannabis), then it is probably a thing to complain about their commenting process.

    • Replies: @Passer by
    @Dmitry

    Hi. I can certainly say that RT does not allow large comments, so if he tried to post that, it would not be successful.

    Replies: @Jim Christian

    , @Jim Christian
    @Dmitry


    When people post a comment or add “like” on a comment in RT website, The Drive website and Buzzfeed website, then is going to a database that is managed by entrepreneurs who are alumni of Israeli army cyberwarefare units, although nobody would care about comments.
     
    The Drive and Buzzfeed? They suck! RT is supposed to be the real deal. Who the hell even OWNS RT anyway?

    Like I thought. ZOGs. Atlanticists. You can't criticize Americans, cannot support Russians. That's all very Zionist. And Soviet.

    Replies: @Dmitry

  20. @Dmitry
    @Passer by

    I guess he was complaining about website comments system, not whatever content they commissioned (which is there to promote a particular strategy depending on the country in which content of different languages will be consumed - the content varies wildly depending on what they believed to be their audience).

    When people post a comment or add "like" on a comment in RT website, The Drive website and Buzzfeed website, then is going to a database that is managed by entrepreneurs who are alumni of Israeli army cyberwarefare units, although nobody would care about comments.

    So for this reason, I assume paranoid anti-Israel conspiracy theorists will have been complaining about the website commenting process, as they didn't like to send information to database that belongs to Israeli army cyberwarfare alumni.


    -

    He was joking at 19:40 in the video, how the growing database is starting to worry him, even though the information saved is only text.

    So he has a lot of comments and I somehow doubt they actually have time to analyze them, and in reality I can't see how internet comments of unimportant internet browsers could have much interest for intelligence services.

    But for people with paranoia (or smoking too much cannabis), then it is probably a thing to complain about their commenting process.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ALerMT9dt8

    Replies: @Passer by, @Jim Christian

    Hi. I can certainly say that RT does not allow large comments, so if he tried to post that, it would not be successful.

    • Replies: @Jim Christian
    @Passer by


    Hi. I can certainly say that RT does not allow large comments, so if he tried to post that, it would not be successful.
     
    I didn't exceed their word count. The problem is, I called out the American Energy Secretary and praised the Russian, Alexander Novak. And that pisses off RT. Now I get it.
  21. @Passer by
    @mal

    I think you will like Econimica.

    https://econimica.blogspot.com

    Replies: @mal

    Yes, i read that on a regular basis.

    • Replies: @Passer by
    @mal

    I suspected that. The thought angle was very similar.

  22. @mal
    @Passer by

    Yes, i read that on a regular basis.

    Replies: @Passer by

    I suspected that. The thought angle was very similar.

    • Agree: mal
  23. mal says:
    @The Wild Geese Howard
    Man, all this UFO talk has me jonesin' to start new XCOM and XCOM 2 campaigns...

    https://youtu.be/ZlF4_o3qALo

    https://youtu.be/eXwHxv_nrpc

    Come to think of it...the ADVENT regime in XCOM 2 is a lot like the Biden regime with their human puppets and gene therapy experiments.

    The weirdest part of both games is that the Davis gang are on mankind's side and you work for them running your spec ops death squad against the xenos.

    Replies: @mal

    Yes, love the X-Com 2!

    My favorite of the series was X-Com Apocalypse from the 90’s. It had fully destructible environments and took place in the city where denizens would send you legal bills for damages you caused while fighting aliens. If you didn’t pay they would get angry at you, up to sanctioning you on the market or attacking your bases.

    It was funny because sometimes it was cheaper to just let alien bombers attack rich districts unopposed rather than send in your interceptors and risk your stray missiles hitting office towers or whatever and then be presented with massive bill.

    I didn’t have the funds to pay off a rich corporation once, so i manufactured a batch of advanced alien tech rocket launchers and sold them on the market. The corporation purchased them, outfitted a tactical mercenary squad with them, and hit my base. I lost like half of my facilities. That wasn’t one of my best business plans. It was fun though.

    • Replies: @Wency
    @mal

    Ha, I'm in the same camp (which I didn't think had many members). I loved Apocalypse. It had the deepest simulation engine behind it of any of the games, and I'd have loved to see the series go in that direction and refine its concepts. Instead, it seems we're going in the opposite direction: the rebooted XCOM 2 felt like it had even less depth to the base-building than rebooted XCOM 1. Though I still enjoyed those games.

  24. @Dmitry
    @Passer by

    I guess he was complaining about website comments system, not whatever content they commissioned (which is there to promote a particular strategy depending on the country in which content of different languages will be consumed - the content varies wildly depending on what they believed to be their audience).

    When people post a comment or add "like" on a comment in RT website, The Drive website and Buzzfeed website, then is going to a database that is managed by entrepreneurs who are alumni of Israeli army cyberwarefare units, although nobody would care about comments.

    So for this reason, I assume paranoid anti-Israel conspiracy theorists will have been complaining about the website commenting process, as they didn't like to send information to database that belongs to Israeli army cyberwarfare alumni.


    -

    He was joking at 19:40 in the video, how the growing database is starting to worry him, even though the information saved is only text.

    So he has a lot of comments and I somehow doubt they actually have time to analyze them, and in reality I can't see how internet comments of unimportant internet browsers could have much interest for intelligence services.

    But for people with paranoia (or smoking too much cannabis), then it is probably a thing to complain about their commenting process.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ALerMT9dt8

    Replies: @Passer by, @Jim Christian

    When people post a comment or add “like” on a comment in RT website, The Drive website and Buzzfeed website, then is going to a database that is managed by entrepreneurs who are alumni of Israeli army cyberwarefare units, although nobody would care about comments.

    The Drive and Buzzfeed? They suck! RT is supposed to be the real deal. Who the hell even OWNS RT anyway?

    Like I thought. ZOGs. Atlanticists. You can’t criticize Americans, cannot support Russians. That’s all very Zionist. And Soviet.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @Jim Christian

    RT is a Russian government media, which is funded with around 450 million dollars last year from the state budget. It operates as a kind of propaganda to try to make people in the West (USA, UK and Latin America), oppose their own governments.

    You are supposed to use this kind of method to increase your leverage in international relations. So if you want to increase your leverage in your relationship with the USA, then its useful if you can influence a portion of the American population.

    To be more effective, RT should have tried to be a more serious, prestigious source of information like BBC or Al Jazeera International (which are successful mixes of objective information and propaganda), but instead it is working as a content-matcher to their audience.

    For example, their website is pre-selecting an unusual audience (it looks like disaffected, disempowered netizens), and then content matching to the preferences of that sample.

    I suspect its managers don't care about whether they are actually doing effective international relations leverage for Russia or not, as there is no established criteria for assessing their job performance. The primary motive for the employees will be that they get the money from the budget. (And it is managed by a famous Armenian scammer, so I wouldn't be too confident with transparency in their corporate money to results ratios). RT even has a flavour of yellow press in their presentation, and that seems very incompetent - they should have tried to present a prestigious image.

    Why did RT's website outsource (as a main early customer, along with The Drive) their comment section to a database managed by former members of Israeli army cyber units?

    I would guess the reality -
    1. People's comments on the internet site are not useful information for intelligence services, so nobody cares if you outsource that (even the Russian government funded organization doesn't care). Even if Mossad was building a database of everyone's comments on the internet, other countries are not going to be very envious of that database - as 99,9999% (probably higher percentage) of website commentators will not be politically powerful or important people, and there is nothing useful in information from politically unimportant and nonpowerful people.

    2. Because RT decided it would be a better or easier result if they outsource the commenting process - you get a better performance for the site from outsourcing the commenting section to a professional company.

    Replies: @Dmitry

  25. @Passer by
    @Dmitry

    Hi. I can certainly say that RT does not allow large comments, so if he tried to post that, it would not be successful.

    Replies: @Jim Christian

    Hi. I can certainly say that RT does not allow large comments, so if he tried to post that, it would not be successful.

    I didn’t exceed their word count. The problem is, I called out the American Energy Secretary and praised the Russian, Alexander Novak. And that pisses off RT. Now I get it.

  26. @Lokke
    Russia's PR must improve dramatically if Moscow wants to have a shot at presenting a viable long-term alternative to the western sphere. That shouldn't be too difficult as the West's descent into pure demonic madness becomes more and more cartoonish by the day. The problem is Russian leadership seems to be stuck in a Soviet-era mentality. When most regular westerners look at Russia today, they don't associate it with any particular set of civilizational values. They associate Russia with "corruption" and "oligarchy". Meanwhile, the West is immediately associated with "liberalism", "secularism" etc. Unlike in the case of Russia, there is no ambiguity. This needs to change.

    Instead of raging about "neo-nazis" and "fascists" in Ukraine, Russia should be calling the Kyiv regime out for what it really is: a crypto-Judaic, ultraliberal entity that is genociding the Ukrainian people and using misguided Slavic nationalism for slavophobic, globalist purposes.

    The soviet nostalgia also needs to die ASAP. It is cringey, decrepit, and utterly unattractive for anyone under the age of 70. Sovietism must be explicitly denounced as what it was: a hypermaterialistic experiment with Jewish origins that almost succeeded in wiping out Russian civilization. It's a disgrace that so many Russian nationalists are still deriding Solzhenitsyn as a "traitor". This kind of mentality is the Russian equivalent of Boomerconism.

    Russia should more explicitly embrace a traditionalist, pro-life, religious message that will be in clear contrast with the "woke", satanic and doomed West. It is time for Russia to re-engage in the global civilizational struggle. The current iteration of "Russian nationalism" is too soft - it's an intermediate step between sovietism and western liberalism that is spiritually weak, stands for very little, and so is unsustainable in the long run. It is destined to crumble as soon as a critical mass of "hip" urbanite youth starts demanding the right to sodomy and "liberation" (I hope Russians are looking at what is going on with Polish youth and taking it as a warning sign).

    Replies: @Beckow, @Felix Keverich, @Coconuts, @Yevardian, @Anatoly Karlin, @Sinotibetan

    Russia should more explicitly embrace a traditionalist, pro-life, religious message that will be in clear contrast with the “woke”, satanic and doomed West.

    Russia is in an existential struggle with the West, so the insane wokism benefits them. Game theory. Whether it is true or not, Russia perceives the West (and by extension all Westerners) as irredeemably hostile. There is enough to show that it is true, from petty harassment in every area, incl. sports, to Western revisionist myths about WWII.

    The hostile attitudes are very widespread and include not only liberals, but also large parts of the conservative spectrum. Often it seems that the two sides are competing who shows more hostility to anything Russian. The occasional dissenters – like Trump for a while, before him Berlusconi or Fillon – are hounded out from the public space. At some point this is a society problem and not just the elites.

    Who is there to reach out to? By definition, strengthening a hostile West is self-defeating for Russia. For all we know, Russia funds BLM and the crazy academics – more West goes mad, weaker they are. After all West enthusiastically funded Afghan proto-Taleban to fight Russia. It is ugly, but it is existential and the traditionalists in the West are too weak or too anti-Russian to matter.

    • Agree: dfordoom
    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
    @Beckow



    There is enough to show that it is true, from petty harassment in every area, incl. sports, to Western revisionist myths about WWII.

     

    This is called "doubling down".
  27. @mal
    Between May 2020, and April 2021, US lost 2.1 million working age population, or about 1% in a year.

    Working Age Population: Aged 15-64: All for the United States was 205446270.62596 Persons in April of 2021, according to the United States Federal Reserve. Historically, Working Age Population: Aged 15-64: All for the United States reached a record high of 207555510.92749 in May of 2020 and a record low of 135237302.53426 in January of 1977.
     
    https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/working-age-population-aged-15-64-all-persons-for-the-united-states-fed-data.html

    First, the good news. They didn't die of COVID or anything like that, just got old. US population continues to grow.

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/POPTOTUSA647NWDB

    Also, the catastrophic drop is a bit of a statistical artifact as every 10 years US has census and that always bumps the numbers up a bit, but in 2020, for the first time in history, numbers went down after the bump. If you smooth it all out, actual drop is still massive 1.2 or so million.

    If you look at the shape of the plot, and consider that US TFR went below replacement in 2008, US going to start running out of children soon, so those losses will not be replaced. Also consider that US life expectancy is not that great for a civilized county, so those population losses will start showing up among old people unless life expectancy improves or we start importing millions of immigrants. (From Africa and Afghanistan?). If not, 2030 census will show significantly lower numbers.

    Key takeaway from this is that any sort of sustained inflation or hyperinflation is impossible with this sort of demographics. Retired people spend about 1/3 less vs when they were employed and US labor participation rate returned to the long term downward trend on top of the absolute demographic losses.

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CIVPART

    The Age of the American Consumer is over.

    American Consumer was the beating heart powering global economy since 1945 (with a brief exception in 2008-2009 when Chinese investment took over for a short period). It is no more. US government is stepping up to the plate with $6 trillion budgets, and $8 Trillion projected by early 2030's. This will result in massive deflationary pressure.

    By mid 2030's, US Government will have to spend at least $10 Trillion annually or face economic difficulties. And there are only two economic objectives that can absorb this kind of cash - some kind of Universal Basic Income Scheme, or war.

    We can always reverse repo that cash at the Federal Reserve for more debt. :)

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Passer by, @Mikel, @Yellowface Anon

    any sort of sustained inflation or hyperinflation is impossible with this sort of demographics

    Have you ever heard of a country called Venezuela? It must have the most depressed demographics in the world. Venezuelans are leaving the country by the millions to wherever they can. Yet year after year it also keeps recording the highest inflation rate in the world outside maybe Zimbabwe.

    You should get acquainted with the old formula mv = pq

    US government is stepping up to the plate with $6 trillion budgets, and $8 Trillion projected by early 2030’s. This will result in massive deflationary pressure.

    Sure. There’s nothing like the government spending trillions of dollars to cause massive deflations.

    • Replies: @mal
    @Mikel


    Have you ever heard of a country called Venezuela? It must have the most depressed demographics in the world. Venezuelans are leaving the country by the millions to wherever they can. Yet year after year it also keeps recording the highest inflation rate in the world outside maybe Zimbabwe.
     
    Venezuela TFR has been well above 2.0. Also, they are under sanctions so their supply chains are getting wrecked. Anybody sanctioning US soon?

    Have you ever heard about country called Japan? That's where we are going, not Venezuela.

    You should get acquainted with the old formula mv = pq

     

    Well familiar with it. We have no v, and with our demographics, we will not be getting significant v any time soon.

    Sure. There’s nothing like the government spending trillions of dollars to cause massive deflations.
     
    Welcome to Japan. Government deficits provide demand and central bank forcing real rates into negative causes supply to expand beyond what private sector can consume (due to private sector being old and dead). Increasing supply and contracting demand (due to people dying off) causes deflation.
  28. @Jim Christian
    @Dmitry


    When people post a comment or add “like” on a comment in RT website, The Drive website and Buzzfeed website, then is going to a database that is managed by entrepreneurs who are alumni of Israeli army cyberwarefare units, although nobody would care about comments.
     
    The Drive and Buzzfeed? They suck! RT is supposed to be the real deal. Who the hell even OWNS RT anyway?

    Like I thought. ZOGs. Atlanticists. You can't criticize Americans, cannot support Russians. That's all very Zionist. And Soviet.

    Replies: @Dmitry

    RT is a Russian government media, which is funded with around 450 million dollars last year from the state budget. It operates as a kind of propaganda to try to make people in the West (USA, UK and Latin America), oppose their own governments.

    You are supposed to use this kind of method to increase your leverage in international relations. So if you want to increase your leverage in your relationship with the USA, then its useful if you can influence a portion of the American population.

    To be more effective, RT should have tried to be a more serious, prestigious source of information like BBC or Al Jazeera International (which are successful mixes of objective information and propaganda), but instead it is working as a content-matcher to their audience.

    For example, their website is pre-selecting an unusual audience (it looks like disaffected, disempowered netizens), and then content matching to the preferences of that sample.

    I suspect its managers don’t care about whether they are actually doing effective international relations leverage for Russia or not, as there is no established criteria for assessing their job performance. The primary motive for the employees will be that they get the money from the budget. (And it is managed by a famous Armenian scammer, so I wouldn’t be too confident with transparency in their corporate money to results ratios). RT even has a flavour of yellow press in their presentation, and that seems very incompetent – they should have tried to present a prestigious image.

    Why did RT’s website outsource (as a main early customer, along with The Drive) their comment section to a database managed by former members of Israeli army cyber units?

    I would guess the reality –
    1. People’s comments on the internet site are not useful information for intelligence services, so nobody cares if you outsource that (even the Russian government funded organization doesn’t care). Even if Mossad was building a database of everyone’s comments on the internet, other countries are not going to be very envious of that database – as 99,9999% (probably higher percentage) of website commentators will not be politically powerful or important people, and there is nothing useful in information from politically unimportant and nonpowerful people.

    2. Because RT decided it would be a better or easier result if they outsource the commenting process – you get a better performance for the site from outsourcing the commenting section to a professional company.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @Dmitry

    RT site is promoting at the top of their pages "Covid Freedom Index" (which awards currently Texas as the winner, due to the low level of anti-epidemic restrictions there). https://www.rt.com/covid_freedom_index/

    Aside from cynicism in promoting anti-epidemic indicators, it seems that they believe the American audience that they filtered for, and then are content matching to, are a specifically anti-mask, anti-vax people.

    If there was some oversight to assess job performance of managers relative to funding, one of the first questions I would ask - why does it seem that you are likely selecting for demographics in West that might have lower socioeconomic power than an average media audience?

    If content selects for demographics with relatively low socioeconomic power, then it can contradict raison d'être for their funding: to increase leverage for Moscow in international relations.

    For increasing leverage per audience ceteris paribus, RT should focus on selecting for audiences that have higher, or at least average, socioeconomic power in their societies.

    Audiences with lower socioeconomic power, will also have less power to influence international relations - and the purpose for funding RT is to increase leverage with the countries where the media is delivered.

    -

    American media spaces with closer to half of audience having some socioeconomic power, are Economist, NPR and New Yorker. Higher levels of power, are among the audience of more prestigious and educated style of media presentation.

    (Aside from Sharapova, it's not impossible to me to imagine that the main 21st century softpower in the West is still upon 19th century Russian classics and ballet).
    https://i.imgur.com/QskxNNn.jpg

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @utu, @Passer by

  29. Both Biden and Trump will be over by ’24. Biden is already out of it cognetively speaking. Trump will be 78 in ’24.

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
    @Abelard Lindsey

    It will be Harris vs Trump Jr. (basically carrying on the same ideologies), if the post still has any relevance.

  30. @Triteleia Laxa
    @mal

    I assume China is also beginning to lose working age population. Given the low and shrinking TFR there, the fall will be precipitous. The EU and other developed countries are in even worse shape in this regards.

    Indian consumers will pick up some slack, but I am not optimistic as regards Africa, and nowhere else is growing.

    Replies: @Abelard Lindsey, @Eugene Norman, @Marshal Marlow

    China has lots of room for productivity growth, even with a declining population, which will drive economic growth for another 15-20 years before they sink into a Japan-like stagnation.

  31. @Dmitry
    @Jim Christian

    RT is a Russian government media, which is funded with around 450 million dollars last year from the state budget. It operates as a kind of propaganda to try to make people in the West (USA, UK and Latin America), oppose their own governments.

    You are supposed to use this kind of method to increase your leverage in international relations. So if you want to increase your leverage in your relationship with the USA, then its useful if you can influence a portion of the American population.

    To be more effective, RT should have tried to be a more serious, prestigious source of information like BBC or Al Jazeera International (which are successful mixes of objective information and propaganda), but instead it is working as a content-matcher to their audience.

    For example, their website is pre-selecting an unusual audience (it looks like disaffected, disempowered netizens), and then content matching to the preferences of that sample.

    I suspect its managers don't care about whether they are actually doing effective international relations leverage for Russia or not, as there is no established criteria for assessing their job performance. The primary motive for the employees will be that they get the money from the budget. (And it is managed by a famous Armenian scammer, so I wouldn't be too confident with transparency in their corporate money to results ratios). RT even has a flavour of yellow press in their presentation, and that seems very incompetent - they should have tried to present a prestigious image.

    Why did RT's website outsource (as a main early customer, along with The Drive) their comment section to a database managed by former members of Israeli army cyber units?

    I would guess the reality -
    1. People's comments on the internet site are not useful information for intelligence services, so nobody cares if you outsource that (even the Russian government funded organization doesn't care). Even if Mossad was building a database of everyone's comments on the internet, other countries are not going to be very envious of that database - as 99,9999% (probably higher percentage) of website commentators will not be politically powerful or important people, and there is nothing useful in information from politically unimportant and nonpowerful people.

    2. Because RT decided it would be a better or easier result if they outsource the commenting process - you get a better performance for the site from outsourcing the commenting section to a professional company.

    Replies: @Dmitry

    RT site is promoting at the top of their pages “Covid Freedom Index” (which awards currently Texas as the winner, due to the low level of anti-epidemic restrictions there). https://www.rt.com/covid_freedom_index/

    Aside from cynicism in promoting anti-epidemic indicators, it seems that they believe the American audience that they filtered for, and then are content matching to, are a specifically anti-mask, anti-vax people.

    If there was some oversight to assess job performance of managers relative to funding, one of the first questions I would ask – why does it seem that you are likely selecting for demographics in West that might have lower socioeconomic power than an average media audience?

    If content selects for demographics with relatively low socioeconomic power, then it can contradict raison d’être for their funding: to increase leverage for Moscow in international relations.

    For increasing leverage per audience ceteris paribus, RT should focus on selecting for audiences that have higher, or at least average, socioeconomic power in their societies.

    Audiences with lower socioeconomic power, will also have less power to influence international relations – and the purpose for funding RT is to increase leverage with the countries where the media is delivered.

    American media spaces with closer to half of audience having some socioeconomic power, are Economist, NPR and New Yorker. Higher levels of power, are among the audience of more prestigious and educated style of media presentation.

    (Aside from Sharapova, it’s not impossible to me to imagine that the main 21st century softpower in the West is still upon 19th century Russian classics and ballet).

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
    @Dmitry


    ... it seems that they believe the American audience that they filtered for, and then are content matching to, are a specifically anti-mask, anti-vax people...
    ... why does it seem that you are likely selecting for demographics in West that might have lower socioeconomic power than an average media audience?
     
    You are making assumptions of choosing public health policies based on stereotypes. Anti-mask, anti-vax people tend to be those whose lives are either adversely affected by the policies or those that are marginal enough to position themselves away from the policies, sure, but you should not underestimate the extent of middle-class support for those types of standpoints. It is much closer to personal ideologies (that are heavily affected by socio-economic status and education).

    If content selects for demographics with relatively low socioeconomic power, then it can contradict raison d’être for their funding: to increase leverage for Moscow in international relations.

    For increasing leverage per audience ceteris paribus, RT should focus on selecting for audiences that have higher, or at least average, socioeconomic power in their societies.

    Audiences with lower socioeconomic power, will also have less power to influence international relations – and the purpose for funding RT is to increase leverage with the countries where the media is delivered.
     
    Moscow will never convince the Outer Party - aim for the proles. (See also Beckow's comment on how to weaken your strategic rival by accelerating their intellectual failure - that is how Moscow can approach the Outer Party)
    , @utu
    @Dmitry

    I agree with your two comments on RT.


    "It operates as a kind of propaganda to try to make people in the West (USA, UK and Latin America), oppose their own governments."

    "Aside from cynicism in promoting anti-epidemic indicators, it seems that they believe the American audience that they filtered for, and then are content matching to, are a specifically anti-mask, anti-vax people."
     
    Cynicism to broaden the basket of deplorables is the name of their game.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @silviosilver

    , @Passer by
    @Dmitry


    Aside from cynicism in promoting anti-epidemic indicators, it seems that they believe the American audience that they filtered for, and then are content matching to, are a specifically anti-mask, anti-vax people.
     
    This is RT.

    Meanwhile Sputnik is attacking the US from the Left. Some attack it from the right (RT), some attack it from the left (Sputnik).

    https://sputniknews.com/radio_by_any_means/202105281083012169-political-theorist-explains-why-liberation-demands-collective-struggle/

    https://sputniknews.com/radio_by_any_means/202105251082995673-gop-rep-says-vax-like-holocaust-as-antisemitism-crisis-targets-arabs/

    Replies: @Passer by

  32. mal says:
    @Mikel
    @mal


    any sort of sustained inflation or hyperinflation is impossible with this sort of demographics
     
    Have you ever heard of a country called Venezuela? It must have the most depressed demographics in the world. Venezuelans are leaving the country by the millions to wherever they can. Yet year after year it also keeps recording the highest inflation rate in the world outside maybe Zimbabwe.

    You should get acquainted with the old formula mv = pq

    US government is stepping up to the plate with $6 trillion budgets, and $8 Trillion projected by early 2030’s. This will result in massive deflationary pressure.
     
    Sure. There's nothing like the government spending trillions of dollars to cause massive deflations.

    Replies: @mal

    Have you ever heard of a country called Venezuela? It must have the most depressed demographics in the world. Venezuelans are leaving the country by the millions to wherever they can. Yet year after year it also keeps recording the highest inflation rate in the world outside maybe Zimbabwe.

    Venezuela TFR has been well above 2.0. Also, they are under sanctions so their supply chains are getting wrecked. Anybody sanctioning US soon?

    Have you ever heard about country called Japan? That’s where we are going, not Venezuela.

    You should get acquainted with the old formula mv = pq

    Well familiar with it. We have no v, and with our demographics, we will not be getting significant v any time soon.

    Sure. There’s nothing like the government spending trillions of dollars to cause massive deflations.

    Welcome to Japan. Government deficits provide demand and central bank forcing real rates into negative causes supply to expand beyond what private sector can consume (due to private sector being old and dead). Increasing supply and contracting demand (due to people dying off) causes deflation.

  33. The revelations on Protasevich keep coming:

    https://thegrayzone.com/2021/05/26/belarus-roman-protasevich-plane-nazis-ukraine/

    Excerpt –

    Washington’s RFE/RL even interviewed Protasevich back in 2015 for a puff piece promoting foreign far-right extremists who joined the neo-Nazi Avoz Battalion in Ukraine. Using a pseudonym, Protasevich spoke of his experience fighting and being wounded in the Pahonia Detachment, a group of Belarusian fascists who joined Azov.

    The RFE/RL article clearly describes Protasevich as a “soldier,” not a journalist. And in his testimony the Belarusian extremist stated openly that he was fighting on the front line when he was hit by shrapnel. Protasevich also explained that the Pahonia Detachment was not separate, and that he and other Belarusian fighters were embedded in Azov units.

    Some stuff on Viacorka as well.

  34. @silviosilver

    I always though fantasies about Biden’s dementia were more rightoid cope than reality
     
    Cope schmope. The point was/is to demoralize and upset the opposition. Just like referring to it as the stolen election is.

    Replies: @Some Guy, @Pericles

    I mean Biden can barely read a teleprompter now, another three years isn’t going to do wonders for him.

  35. @Jim Christian
    @Jatt Aryaa

    Are you insane?

    Replies: @Kent Nationalist, @Jatt Aryaa

    • Replies: @Jim Christian
    @Jatt Aryaa

    No, no, no, I merely asked if you're insane. A 500 year religious cycle? Man, you're into aliens and shit.

    And so I ask, are you insane?

  36. @Kent Nationalist
    @Jim Christian

    His brain is broken from a religion of worshipping Aryans who subjugated his ancestors.

    Replies: @Jatt Aryaa

    Imagine being the Aryans who subjugated India & Europe, and not an Anglo christcuck.

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Jatt Aryaa

    Better use Nuristani and Kalash as the proxy for Aryans. Among the Tadjik, use Badakhshan people. Also, don't forget the Hephtalite factor. Folks on the frescoe below are Spenta Huna (White Huns):

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/39/07/ae/3907ae8efe479e39ad843dc165e868f0.jpg

    Might have influenced Gilgit-Baltistan folks.

    Finally, the close distance of the northern Hindustani to the Aryan proxies among the modern populations is easily explained by the fact that northern Hindustan has been invaded countless times over some three thousand years from exactly the region (Central Asia) that you consider as "Aryan ".

    Think Kanishka and his Indo-Scythians. It has been done so often that some of your northern Brahmin populations ended up 78% R1a. That's the level it reaches in Vologda...

    That is why northern Hindustani are often of Aryan stock. If your Y haplogroup is R1a then your ancestors subdued these swarthy Dravidians and for lack of a better choice slept with their rather ugly women. Tough luck, but it might have been worse if your ancestors ended up invading Lake Chad region as some Y haplogroup R1b Yamnaya offshoot population did.

    😉

    Replies: @Svevlad, @Jatt Aryaa

    , @DNS
    @Jatt Aryaa

    Jattoid delusions.

    Replies: @Jatt Aryaa

    , @Max Payne
    @Jatt Aryaa

    Hey look I found your friend:

    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8nlXco6vNtU/YLLUV6SDkRI/AAAAAAAAHRc/JdBQqH1lpwAgC4eJ9ZcxxnpVnX78OY24wCLcBGAsYHQ/s382/friend.gif

    Replies: @Morton's toes

  37. @Triteleia Laxa
    @mal

    I assume China is also beginning to lose working age population. Given the low and shrinking TFR there, the fall will be precipitous. The EU and other developed countries are in even worse shape in this regards.

    Indian consumers will pick up some slack, but I am not optimistic as regards Africa, and nowhere else is growing.

    Replies: @Abelard Lindsey, @Eugene Norman, @Marshal Marlow

    It seems we are in an intellectual fervour of reverse Malthusianism.

    Chinese growth might slow but it’s been forgotten that they have 300M rural workers who can add value over the next few generations. The first generation moves to factories and the next become technologists or city workers. Thus their dependency ratio isn’t like the west – the ratio of really productive workers to non productive workers or people (and rural farmers add little to GDP). Effectively these rural workers are like immigrants, they can’t even travel within China right now because of the hukou system. The CCP will open this up over time.

  38. @mal
    Between May 2020, and April 2021, US lost 2.1 million working age population, or about 1% in a year.

    Working Age Population: Aged 15-64: All for the United States was 205446270.62596 Persons in April of 2021, according to the United States Federal Reserve. Historically, Working Age Population: Aged 15-64: All for the United States reached a record high of 207555510.92749 in May of 2020 and a record low of 135237302.53426 in January of 1977.
     
    https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/working-age-population-aged-15-64-all-persons-for-the-united-states-fed-data.html

    First, the good news. They didn't die of COVID or anything like that, just got old. US population continues to grow.

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/POPTOTUSA647NWDB

    Also, the catastrophic drop is a bit of a statistical artifact as every 10 years US has census and that always bumps the numbers up a bit, but in 2020, for the first time in history, numbers went down after the bump. If you smooth it all out, actual drop is still massive 1.2 or so million.

    If you look at the shape of the plot, and consider that US TFR went below replacement in 2008, US going to start running out of children soon, so those losses will not be replaced. Also consider that US life expectancy is not that great for a civilized county, so those population losses will start showing up among old people unless life expectancy improves or we start importing millions of immigrants. (From Africa and Afghanistan?). If not, 2030 census will show significantly lower numbers.

    Key takeaway from this is that any sort of sustained inflation or hyperinflation is impossible with this sort of demographics. Retired people spend about 1/3 less vs when they were employed and US labor participation rate returned to the long term downward trend on top of the absolute demographic losses.

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CIVPART

    The Age of the American Consumer is over.

    American Consumer was the beating heart powering global economy since 1945 (with a brief exception in 2008-2009 when Chinese investment took over for a short period). It is no more. US government is stepping up to the plate with $6 trillion budgets, and $8 Trillion projected by early 2030's. This will result in massive deflationary pressure.

    By mid 2030's, US Government will have to spend at least $10 Trillion annually or face economic difficulties. And there are only two economic objectives that can absorb this kind of cash - some kind of Universal Basic Income Scheme, or war.

    We can always reverse repo that cash at the Federal Reserve for more debt. :)

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Passer by, @Mikel, @Yellowface Anon

    I’m not sure how automation and AI (both elite-initiated or bottom-up efforts) go into the economic and demographic equation. It can both offset losses in labor pool and creating new forms of (more skill-intensive) jobs, or create mass unemployment on its own.

    (Or we’ll have a 3rd century Rome scenario – lower population and workers moving to low-productivity sectors like farming means far less relevance of North America in the World’s economy. I dunno, there is even a Schwab-Gates depopulation scenario)

    • Replies: @mal
    @Yellowface Anon

    Automation always results in mass unemployment and is always resolved the same way - government spending. Usually for war though it doesn't have to be this way. But the underlying math is the same - government must run budget deficit to absorb surplus labor.

    Unemployed Luddite weavers became convicts and soldiers to colonize Australia or whatever, unemployed farmers became cannon fodder in World War 1, unemployed workers became cannon fodder in World War 2. Wars destroy capital (burn factories etc) and create new markets for the victors, which helps solve the problem temporarily.

    After WW2, US gained market share but by 1970's German and Japanese economies rebuilt and US choked again. By 1980's Reagan/Volcker has to go back to government spending and they dramatically increased US budget deficits and hiked rates to kill German and Japanese economies again by attracting global capital to US government financing. It was a suicidal move (US dollar nearly collapsed as a reserve currency by 1991) but luckily Gorbachev bailed them out.

    Anyway... High skill jobs don't help most people because average person has IQ of 100 and you don't want them in charge of $1,000,000 robot, or making any critical decisions. But they still must consume the robot output somehow, or robot owner goes bankrupt.

    Depopulation would be a disaster for the elites as they are the ones who own all the robots and factories etc. They would find themselves redundant. No people means no political power. Squirrels don't care what Schwab-Gates think about, only people do.

    Replies: @Thorfinnsson, @Insomniac Resurrected

  39. @Abelard Lindsey
    Both Biden and Trump will be over by '24. Biden is already out of it cognetively speaking. Trump will be 78 in '24.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon

    It will be Harris vs Trump Jr. (basically carrying on the same ideologies), if the post still has any relevance.

  40. @Dmitry
    @Dmitry

    RT site is promoting at the top of their pages "Covid Freedom Index" (which awards currently Texas as the winner, due to the low level of anti-epidemic restrictions there). https://www.rt.com/covid_freedom_index/

    Aside from cynicism in promoting anti-epidemic indicators, it seems that they believe the American audience that they filtered for, and then are content matching to, are a specifically anti-mask, anti-vax people.

    If there was some oversight to assess job performance of managers relative to funding, one of the first questions I would ask - why does it seem that you are likely selecting for demographics in West that might have lower socioeconomic power than an average media audience?

    If content selects for demographics with relatively low socioeconomic power, then it can contradict raison d'être for their funding: to increase leverage for Moscow in international relations.

    For increasing leverage per audience ceteris paribus, RT should focus on selecting for audiences that have higher, or at least average, socioeconomic power in their societies.

    Audiences with lower socioeconomic power, will also have less power to influence international relations - and the purpose for funding RT is to increase leverage with the countries where the media is delivered.

    -

    American media spaces with closer to half of audience having some socioeconomic power, are Economist, NPR and New Yorker. Higher levels of power, are among the audience of more prestigious and educated style of media presentation.

    (Aside from Sharapova, it's not impossible to me to imagine that the main 21st century softpower in the West is still upon 19th century Russian classics and ballet).
    https://i.imgur.com/QskxNNn.jpg

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @utu, @Passer by

    … it seems that they believe the American audience that they filtered for, and then are content matching to, are a specifically anti-mask, anti-vax people…
    … why does it seem that you are likely selecting for demographics in West that might have lower socioeconomic power than an average media audience?

    You are making assumptions of choosing public health policies based on stereotypes. Anti-mask, anti-vax people tend to be those whose lives are either adversely affected by the policies or those that are marginal enough to position themselves away from the policies, sure, but you should not underestimate the extent of middle-class support for those types of standpoints. It is much closer to personal ideologies (that are heavily affected by socio-economic status and education).

    If content selects for demographics with relatively low socioeconomic power, then it can contradict raison d’être for their funding: to increase leverage for Moscow in international relations.

    For increasing leverage per audience ceteris paribus, RT should focus on selecting for audiences that have higher, or at least average, socioeconomic power in their societies.

    Audiences with lower socioeconomic power, will also have less power to influence international relations – and the purpose for funding RT is to increase leverage with the countries where the media is delivered.

    Moscow will never convince the Outer Party – aim for the proles. (See also Beckow’s comment on how to weaken your strategic rival by accelerating their intellectual failure – that is how Moscow can approach the Outer Party)

  41. utu says:
    @Dmitry
    @Dmitry

    RT site is promoting at the top of their pages "Covid Freedom Index" (which awards currently Texas as the winner, due to the low level of anti-epidemic restrictions there). https://www.rt.com/covid_freedom_index/

    Aside from cynicism in promoting anti-epidemic indicators, it seems that they believe the American audience that they filtered for, and then are content matching to, are a specifically anti-mask, anti-vax people.

    If there was some oversight to assess job performance of managers relative to funding, one of the first questions I would ask - why does it seem that you are likely selecting for demographics in West that might have lower socioeconomic power than an average media audience?

    If content selects for demographics with relatively low socioeconomic power, then it can contradict raison d'être for their funding: to increase leverage for Moscow in international relations.

    For increasing leverage per audience ceteris paribus, RT should focus on selecting for audiences that have higher, or at least average, socioeconomic power in their societies.

    Audiences with lower socioeconomic power, will also have less power to influence international relations - and the purpose for funding RT is to increase leverage with the countries where the media is delivered.

    -

    American media spaces with closer to half of audience having some socioeconomic power, are Economist, NPR and New Yorker. Higher levels of power, are among the audience of more prestigious and educated style of media presentation.

    (Aside from Sharapova, it's not impossible to me to imagine that the main 21st century softpower in the West is still upon 19th century Russian classics and ballet).
    https://i.imgur.com/QskxNNn.jpg

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @utu, @Passer by

    I agree with your two comments on RT.

    “It operates as a kind of propaganda to try to make people in the West (USA, UK and Latin America), oppose their own governments.”

    “Aside from cynicism in promoting anti-epidemic indicators, it seems that they believe the American audience that they filtered for, and then are content matching to, are a specifically anti-mask, anti-vax people.”

    Cynicism to broaden the basket of deplorables is the name of their game.

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
    @utu

    Right. This is about taking political splintering and centrifugal political forces to their advantage, in order to sow the seeds for dissolution of the US. They've been thru that and understand well how it can be done in the US.

    , @silviosilver
    @utu


    Cynicism to broaden the basket of deplorables is the name of their game.
     
    Not really. RT is a mixed bag, but it mostly attacks America from the left. To really qualify as deplorable, you have to be challenging or questioning the anti-white status quo.
  42. I was recently in Crimea, on holiday with a group of senior scientists from [insert favorite naukagrad]. Perhaps my first impressions of Crimea will be of interest here.

    General observations

    Under Russian rule, Crimea is divided into two administrative units, the Republic of Crimea, and the City of Sevastopol. The official languages of the Republic of Crimea are Russian, Ukrainian, and Tatar. Everyone, including the Tatars, speaks Russian with a standard accent, as opposed to people from, say, Kharkоv, who speak with a noticeable southern accent. You see a fair number of mosques as you travel through the countryside (Tatars seem to live mostly inland, not on the seaside), and you meet Tatars selling vegetables and street food.

    Both villages and cities are fairly tidy, and very friendly, by Russian standards. An American acquaintance who has lived in Russia for over twenty years and is also married to a Russian woman visited Crimea 15 years ago and said it was a ‘Sovok shithole’, so it must have improved at some point. As the parts of Ukraine with which I’m familiar have also improved over that same period, I’m guessing that both Ukraine and Russia are to thank for these improvements. In terms of infrastructure, the obvious recent improvements are a new airport in Simferopol, the bridge over the Kerch straight, and road improvements. Being cut off from Ukrainian water and electricity is of course a deterioration, but for now, the problems are being solved and you don’t notice the problem in daily life.

    I saw one police car, no police men on the street, and no soldiers or military vehicles the entire time we were there, which surprised me, since even in a small Moscow region village, you will see a police car roll through once or twice a day. Insofar as there is resentment concerning the change in management, it must be rather tame. Presumably the unhappiest people left. Compare this to Israel, let alone the West Bank or Gaza.

    We were in Feodosiya for Victory Day. Fun and festive. I’m told it was more subdued than usual, because of epidemic restrictions, but you could hardly tell. In principle you are supposed to put on a mask when entering a shop, but people in Crimea are much more relaxed about this than in Moscow region.

    Summaries of opinions that I encountered

    1) Handyman, about 60 years old, reared in Russia, lived for 30 years in south Ukraine, where he reared his own family and became a Ukrainian citizen, now trying to regain his Russian citizenship so that he can legally own the Crimean land, near Sudak, that he bought in 2013. He’s generally happy about the change in management, since he finds the new Ukrainian government unfriendly to Russians, but thinks Crimea is worse off economically, because they no longer get Ukrainian tourists, and Russian tourists prefer to vacation in the Mediterranean, since that is more high status.

    2) Local private car rental man, about 40 years old, grew up in small Crimean seaside city between Feodosiya and Sudak. Curious about why we moved back to Russia from abroad (Russians ask me this typically once a day). He said his classmate is moving back from Denmark, because he can’t stand the homosexual propaganda in Danish schools.

    3) Neighbour of handyman, about 60 years old, originally from Donetsk. Thinks homosexuals are just dandy, would prefer to remain in Ukraine, wants to be part of the EU. Thinks I’m mad for moving to Russia.

    4) Lord of guesthouse, about 40, grew up in same small Crimean seaside city, friend of car rental man. Half Russian, half Gagauz (Orthodox Christian Turks from near Moldavia). Very cheerful, helpful, prosperous. Beautiful houses and garden built on hillside, with his father (the Gagauz) and brother. Change of management has been bad for them financially. The kind of Russians who holiday in Crimea are less willing to pay European prices. Russians from Moscow and St. Petersburg make fine guests. They are “European”. He doesn’t like non-European people from the ethnic republics (he mentioned Chuvashia and Mordovia, in particular), who are uncultured, drink too much, listen to loud music. He thinks Ukrainian law and taxes are preferable to Russian. He didn’t bring up homosexuals.

    5) Taxi driver from seaside city back to Simferopol airport, friend of car rental man. The new management is good. Transition was smooth. Paperwork was not too onerous. Taxes are higher, it is true, and the vodka isn’t as tasty, but the khokhols are nuts and want to kill us.

    • Agree: Anatoly Karlin
    • Thanks: Morton's toes
    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
    @The Big Red Scary


    An American acquaintance who has lived in Russia for over twenty years and is also married to a Russian woman visited Crimea 15 years ago and said it was a ‘Sovok shithole’, so it must have improved at some point. As the parts of Ukraine with which I’m familiar have also improved over that same period, I’m guessing that both Ukraine and Russia are to thank for these improvements.
     
    Crimea was famously derelict even by Ukrainian standards prior to 2014, so the improvement is 100% on account of Russia.

    One visual example of "before and after":

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbzYfAR779A&ab_channel=AlenaBardovskaya

    Replies: @AP

  43. @utu
    @Dmitry

    I agree with your two comments on RT.


    "It operates as a kind of propaganda to try to make people in the West (USA, UK and Latin America), oppose their own governments."

    "Aside from cynicism in promoting anti-epidemic indicators, it seems that they believe the American audience that they filtered for, and then are content matching to, are a specifically anti-mask, anti-vax people."
     
    Cynicism to broaden the basket of deplorables is the name of their game.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @silviosilver

    Right. This is about taking political splintering and centrifugal political forces to their advantage, in order to sow the seeds for dissolution of the US. They’ve been thru that and understand well how it can be done in the US.

  44. @Lokke
    Russia's PR must improve dramatically if Moscow wants to have a shot at presenting a viable long-term alternative to the western sphere. That shouldn't be too difficult as the West's descent into pure demonic madness becomes more and more cartoonish by the day. The problem is Russian leadership seems to be stuck in a Soviet-era mentality. When most regular westerners look at Russia today, they don't associate it with any particular set of civilizational values. They associate Russia with "corruption" and "oligarchy". Meanwhile, the West is immediately associated with "liberalism", "secularism" etc. Unlike in the case of Russia, there is no ambiguity. This needs to change.

    Instead of raging about "neo-nazis" and "fascists" in Ukraine, Russia should be calling the Kyiv regime out for what it really is: a crypto-Judaic, ultraliberal entity that is genociding the Ukrainian people and using misguided Slavic nationalism for slavophobic, globalist purposes.

    The soviet nostalgia also needs to die ASAP. It is cringey, decrepit, and utterly unattractive for anyone under the age of 70. Sovietism must be explicitly denounced as what it was: a hypermaterialistic experiment with Jewish origins that almost succeeded in wiping out Russian civilization. It's a disgrace that so many Russian nationalists are still deriding Solzhenitsyn as a "traitor". This kind of mentality is the Russian equivalent of Boomerconism.

    Russia should more explicitly embrace a traditionalist, pro-life, religious message that will be in clear contrast with the "woke", satanic and doomed West. It is time for Russia to re-engage in the global civilizational struggle. The current iteration of "Russian nationalism" is too soft - it's an intermediate step between sovietism and western liberalism that is spiritually weak, stands for very little, and so is unsustainable in the long run. It is destined to crumble as soon as a critical mass of "hip" urbanite youth starts demanding the right to sodomy and "liberation" (I hope Russians are looking at what is going on with Polish youth and taking it as a warning sign).

    Replies: @Beckow, @Felix Keverich, @Coconuts, @Yevardian, @Anatoly Karlin, @Sinotibetan

    Jewish power and control over Western societies is overwhelming. Attempting to win over Western public opinion with anti-Semetism will get us nowhere. Only good for trolling. We should promote anti-Semetism domestically as a form of immunisation strategy.

    Tradcons are a joke, and this is how the vast majority of Russians see them. Imposing religious conservatism on Russians will provoke a poweful backlash from society, which is the mistake that Polish conservatives made.

    Whatever you think about Sovietism, it’s a powerful set of symbols, respected by people around the world and feared by the West, which alone makes it useful.

    • Replies: @The Big Red Scary
    @Felix Keverich

    The vast majority of Russians are going slowly extinct and the tradcons will inherit the country. The retirement of Soviet symbols to museums can be postponed until then.

    Replies: @Rattus Norwegius

    , @Pericles
    @Felix Keverich

    Pointless to try to make Russia more feared by the West. We already have our hysterical media doing that for us and they probably do it better than you could. I think Putin does a good job: internationally stay out of trouble yourself and make sure troublemakers suffer, nationally rebuild rebuild rebuild, economically and socially.

    A dose of anti-semitism is good for the social body though.

    , @Thorfinnsson
    @Felix Keverich

    The Poles created a myth that their Church was an heroic source of resistance to foreign communist rule, and then the Polish conservatives imported American boomercon policies which will end in the same way.

    Rather than copying the failing Polish strategy, Russia can instead build up its church as a highly prestigious body. The new armed forces cathedral is a positive step in this direction.

    , @Passer by
    @Felix Keverich

    Bear in mind that the demographic situation in Russia is "extraordinary" as Putin directly says, so continuing to do what you have been doing is a path to nowhere.

    The country is on a long term decline, both as share of world population and of world GDP.

    Your government is crying about "traditional family values" in countless documents and in the Constitution precisely due to that.

    Guess why the hated pension reforms. You guys don't have children and then you cry and whine why you are forced to work longer to cover for the lack of young people and ageing population.

    Replies: @Felix Keverich

  45. @A123
    Only one meme for this week's thread since people were griping so much.

    PEACE 😇

     

    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Wgx0HRCxTUg/YKKV9k_QErI/AAAAAAACvIw/SjCLoViufYsHQKakcU64BWk4kmFuUuuxACLcBGAsYHQ/s550/1%2B1%2B1%2BsadASDASD.jpg

    Replies: @Svevlad

    more rightoid seething

    90% just don’t want to deal with the bullshit and retardoids kvetching to put on a mask

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
    @Svevlad

    There are 3 types of people: COVID True Believers who is staying inside nearly all the time, the Resistance type who has cut off all contact with anyone ever seen masked once and increasingly living among like-minded people, and the vast majority of "sheep" who care not ideology and only want to avoid trouble from state enforcers by masking up.

    Regrettable, since this is what "behavioral scientist" scums want and that means (as Arendt pointed out) evil is often banal.

  46. @Jatt Aryaa
    Evangelism rooted in personal experience arose as an ੧੮੨੦s reaction to EIC turning Hindu.

    Also the lived experience over written logic is dual purpose. One it rips off Bhakti, ੨ the academic structures cannot keep up with technical/social change so open up the books to those well connected so to speak.

    Interesting that the Woke can be called christian/will eventually convert. Other religions seem to be going ultra trad in response, institutionally I mean.

    So is the conclusion that christians are gay & it took ੫੦੦/੨੦੦੦ years to figure this out? Hindus will/have converted though.

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

    Replies: @Jim Christian, @Svevlad, @Coconuts

    EIC?

    It mostly arose as the result of the Mayflower not being sunk to the bottom of the ocean, sparking American religious (more like cult) autism, on top of their mandatory genetic autism (from the NW European gene-lib populations they’re descended from)

    • Replies: @Jatt Aryaa
    @Svevlad

    Idk I read it awhile back. Tbh, Brahmin & Anglo takes are both bad so I'll split the middle.

    I just finished lifting Idgaf tbh, Chieh will now say post physique; after cut nigga.

    I don't feel overhand row or regular curl in lat/bi but Yates Row hits both so subbing it.

    I also recently discovered wisdom of not doing Squat, Deadlift & Run on same day. :)

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

    Replies: @Svevlad

  47. @Triteleia Laxa
    @mal

    I assume China is also beginning to lose working age population. Given the low and shrinking TFR there, the fall will be precipitous. The EU and other developed countries are in even worse shape in this regards.

    Indian consumers will pick up some slack, but I am not optimistic as regards Africa, and nowhere else is growing.

    Replies: @Abelard Lindsey, @Eugene Norman, @Marshal Marlow

    China has got time before its vast pool of peasants become city folk.

    But the question is, what can they do to enlarge their working class? I’m guessing that China will never go down the lets-import-foreigners trap the western world has fallen in to. But what will it do instead? I’m thinking they might find ways to actually make it viable for couples to have families by intervening in the economy in ways that enables one wage earner to afford to support a mortgage and a family of two.

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
    @Marshal Marlow

    They aren't avoiding the "swamp-your-own-place-with-barbarians" trap and had already decades of state-mandated dysgenics - see African immigrant labor in Guangzhou. But it's still early to change a lot of things.

    Replies: @Malenfant

  48. @Jim Christian
    Anatoly? What the fuck is with Russian Times? This slob at Energy (US) calls Russian gas through Nordstream 'dirty". This is the headline:

    ‘Too much hype over environmental friendliness’: Former energy minister says Russian gas four times cleaner than American LNG
     
    This was my comment, rejected by RT:

    "Jennifer Mulhern Granholm (born February 5, 1959) is a Canadian-American politician, lawyer, educator, author, and political commentator serving as the 16th U.S. Energy Secretary. She's a liar and look at her background. How is SHE qualified to say ANYTHING on the subject, she's a political commenter and lawyer with zero experience in this area? Alexander Novak, who comes with extensive energy credentials and a bonafide industrial education and experience is absolutely right and in more ways than he says. Forgetting the origins, fracked vs. drilled, there's the energy expended converting gas to LNG, then the energy spent hauling it on LNG carriers, what, 10,000 miles to Germany? Look at Nordstream: from the ground, to a pipe, delivered 2600 miles, clean as a hound's tooth. Doesn't get any better than that. The U.S. is grinding pipeline projects to a halt all over the U.S., and what do they do? Put the crude on RAIL CARS and haul it. Idiots, so again, U.S. energy Czars (interesting they use Soviet terms sometimes, heh) lie their asses off, they've been doing it since Nixon, because you know, the world was out of oil and gas 45 years ago. Pipelines are clean, surface non-pipeline transport dirty. Another U.S. rhetoric-fail. They think we can't see the politics of a woman who knows nothing of energy telling lies given to her by liars from the energy sector. It makes of the United States a most unserious government. They lie where the truth will do."

    I told the truth. RT rejected it. Starting to think RT is a front for the ZOGs. I used no profanity, I quoted Novak as an expert (he IS) and Jennifer Mulhern Granholm, Department of Energy, a political hack that doesn't know shit from shinola about energy, I mentioned that ZOG lies.. And RT rejected the comment.

    RT is a front, right? As in, not really pro-Russian if we get a little too close to the truth? I thought it was a thoughtful comment, but they dumped it. Truth be told, I'm a little pissed off about it.

    Is RT a Jewish front?

    Replies: @Passer by, @not-me

    Yes it is. If you pay attention to their open eds, and articles in general, you will notice the j-slant. In general in Russia they control much of the media, they don’t dare (yet) to be so openly anti-russian, but they have been working on the young. Navalny’s case: the fact alone that he was working for the West should have disqualified him in the eyes of Russians, but still many youngsters, women, and blinded others supported him. I pity Russia. They will need to get over many of the ideological rotten seeds planted by the bolshevik period. First law by batiushka Lenin was to make antisemitism illegal. Today is also illegal. I wonder if anti-russism is there illegal. To the Russian speakers, are there any Russian (not West puppets) internet sites within Russia good to visit?

    • Replies: @melanf
    @not-me


    but still many youngsters,
     
    In reality, not much at all. Recently, the film "The Plague Doctor" was released - this film was fiercely cursed by Navalny's fans as a mockery of their idol. On the Internet, there was a whole company with the exposure of the film. The result? When the new comics were announced (with the characters of the film), a crowd of schoolchildren almost demolished a bookstore in Moscow.

    https://img02.rl0.ru/afisha/e1200x600i/daily.afisha.ru/uploads/images/b/3b/b3b7e3b8be002a66a3f48162599f514e.png

    https://cs12.pikabu.ru/post_img/2021/05/19/9/1621439628165063818.webp



    The absolute majority of youngsters do not give a damn about Navalny

    Replies: @The Big Red Scary, @Insomniac Resurrected

  49. @Felix Keverich
    @Lokke

    Jewish power and control over Western societies is overwhelming. Attempting to win over Western public opinion with anti-Semetism will get us nowhere. Only good for trolling. We should promote anti-Semetism domestically as a form of immunisation strategy.

    Tradcons are a joke, and this is how the vast majority of Russians see them. Imposing religious conservatism on Russians will provoke a poweful backlash from society, which is the mistake that Polish conservatives made.

    Whatever you think about Sovietism, it's a powerful set of symbols, respected by people around the world and feared by the West, which alone makes it useful.

    Replies: @The Big Red Scary, @Pericles, @Thorfinnsson, @Passer by

    The vast majority of Russians are going slowly extinct and the tradcons will inherit the country. The retirement of Soviet symbols to museums can be postponed until then.

    • Replies: @Rattus Norwegius
    @The Big Red Scary

    What percentage of the population does 'tradcons' make up?

  50. @silviosilver

    I always though fantasies about Biden’s dementia were more rightoid cope than reality
     
    Cope schmope. The point was/is to demoralize and upset the opposition. Just like referring to it as the stolen election is.

    Replies: @Some Guy, @Pericles

    Not to mention both those were true.

    • Agree: Bashibuzuk
  51. @not-me
    @Jim Christian

    Yes it is. If you pay attention to their open eds, and articles in general, you will notice the j-slant. In general in Russia they control much of the media, they don't dare (yet) to be so openly anti-russian, but they have been working on the young. Navalny's case: the fact alone that he was working for the West should have disqualified him in the eyes of Russians, but still many youngsters, women, and blinded others supported him. I pity Russia. They will need to get over many of the ideological rotten seeds planted by the bolshevik period. First law by batiushka Lenin was to make antisemitism illegal. Today is also illegal. I wonder if anti-russism is there illegal. To the Russian speakers, are there any Russian (not West puppets) internet sites within Russia good to visit?

    Replies: @melanf

    but still many youngsters,

    In reality, not much at all. Recently, the film “The Plague Doctor” was released – this film was fiercely cursed by Navalny’s fans as a mockery of their idol. On the Internet, there was a whole company with the exposure of the film. The result? When the new comics were announced (with the characters of the film), a crowd of schoolchildren almost demolished a bookstore in Moscow.

    The absolute majority of youngsters do not give a damn about Navalny

    • Replies: @The Big Red Scary
    @melanf

    What does Plague Doctor have to do with Navalny? (I haven’t read the comics or seen the film.)

    Replies: @melanf

    , @Insomniac Resurrected
    @melanf


    the film “The Plague Doctor” was released
     
    Various bitch ass commentators, like Khovansky, linked the films plot to Navalny and the protest crowd. But from what I have heard, it does not match...
  52. @melanf
    @not-me


    but still many youngsters,
     
    In reality, not much at all. Recently, the film "The Plague Doctor" was released - this film was fiercely cursed by Navalny's fans as a mockery of their idol. On the Internet, there was a whole company with the exposure of the film. The result? When the new comics were announced (with the characters of the film), a crowd of schoolchildren almost demolished a bookstore in Moscow.

    https://img02.rl0.ru/afisha/e1200x600i/daily.afisha.ru/uploads/images/b/3b/b3b7e3b8be002a66a3f48162599f514e.png

    https://cs12.pikabu.ru/post_img/2021/05/19/9/1621439628165063818.webp



    The absolute majority of youngsters do not give a damn about Navalny

    Replies: @The Big Red Scary, @Insomniac Resurrected

    What does Plague Doctor have to do with Navalny? (I haven’t read the comics or seen the film.)

    • Replies: @melanf
    @The Big Red Scary


    What does Plague Doctor have to do with Navalny? (I haven’t read the comics or seen the film.)
     
    In my opinion, the Plague Doctor has nothing in common with Navalny (the penguin man resembles Navalny much more). In the comics, the plague doctor was copied from Durov, but in the film it's just an image of a man who went mad on the basis of the struggle for justice.

    But Navalny's supporters waged a hysterical campaign on social media against the film. The result? The main viewers (and fans) of the film were youngsters from Moscow and St. Petersburg. They don't give a damn about Navalny
  53. @Lokke
    Russia's PR must improve dramatically if Moscow wants to have a shot at presenting a viable long-term alternative to the western sphere. That shouldn't be too difficult as the West's descent into pure demonic madness becomes more and more cartoonish by the day. The problem is Russian leadership seems to be stuck in a Soviet-era mentality. When most regular westerners look at Russia today, they don't associate it with any particular set of civilizational values. They associate Russia with "corruption" and "oligarchy". Meanwhile, the West is immediately associated with "liberalism", "secularism" etc. Unlike in the case of Russia, there is no ambiguity. This needs to change.

    Instead of raging about "neo-nazis" and "fascists" in Ukraine, Russia should be calling the Kyiv regime out for what it really is: a crypto-Judaic, ultraliberal entity that is genociding the Ukrainian people and using misguided Slavic nationalism for slavophobic, globalist purposes.

    The soviet nostalgia also needs to die ASAP. It is cringey, decrepit, and utterly unattractive for anyone under the age of 70. Sovietism must be explicitly denounced as what it was: a hypermaterialistic experiment with Jewish origins that almost succeeded in wiping out Russian civilization. It's a disgrace that so many Russian nationalists are still deriding Solzhenitsyn as a "traitor". This kind of mentality is the Russian equivalent of Boomerconism.

    Russia should more explicitly embrace a traditionalist, pro-life, religious message that will be in clear contrast with the "woke", satanic and doomed West. It is time for Russia to re-engage in the global civilizational struggle. The current iteration of "Russian nationalism" is too soft - it's an intermediate step between sovietism and western liberalism that is spiritually weak, stands for very little, and so is unsustainable in the long run. It is destined to crumble as soon as a critical mass of "hip" urbanite youth starts demanding the right to sodomy and "liberation" (I hope Russians are looking at what is going on with Polish youth and taking it as a warning sign).

    Replies: @Beckow, @Felix Keverich, @Coconuts, @Yevardian, @Anatoly Karlin, @Sinotibetan

    Russia’s PR must improve dramatically if Moscow wants to have a shot at presenting a viable long-term alternative to the western sphere.

    Looking at it realistically China, India, the Islamic World, Africa are all more likely to generate alternatives to the West long-term than Russia. Russia just lacks the weight of numbers needed. As it goes, most of these places are also becoming more connected to and directly involved with Western countries than Russia is.

    Russia may be able to compete with the US for influence in Europe, but if it wants it at the moment probably should emphasise Sovietism, because among people in their early 20s Socialism, Marxism, the hard progressive left is one of the contemporary ‘in-things’. When talking to the West they could choose more women and Russians who look Central Asian as spokesmen, and talk about the longstanding Russian understanding of the solidarity and unity of working peoples, world peace and progressive humanity. Russia will seem more trendy, but could also position itself as more wise, understanding as a result of the Soviet era how progressivism needs to be balanced with more traditional and sustainable values.

    Another productive approach would be talking about deconstructing colonialist narratives about Russia in the West which obviously derive from mid-century German influence; this would be unpopular in Eastern Europe but would likely find an audience in the core West.

    Tradcon will probably be the next thing after this new burst of leftism has faded away but that could be a couple of decades into the future, in the meantime Tradcons need to find effective ways of preserving as much as possible of what they value.

    • Agree: Bashibuzuk
    • Replies: @Jatt Aryaa
    @Coconuts

    Nigger and Fag worship is trend in West.

    Better to emphasize Warrior nature of Russian society than try to appeal to idiots.

    Western brain is simple traditional (non nigger non fag) = backward unless strong

    Tradcon is just nigger fag worship with extra steps.

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

    , @Dmitry
    @Coconuts


    humanity. Russia will seem more trend
     
    I agree with you that such an approach could be more successful, but it will still be negative and ephemeral propaganda, even if a potentially more fashionable one than current failed attempts.

    It's possible that the net effect of any propaganda, will be usually negative, even when judged against the selfish aims of rulers

    It might be that in the long term, a good result will arrive only by communicating things of real value and usefulness to people in other countries.

    So if the main softpower is still 19th century inheritances in music, ballet or literature, the reason is because these were things of real value.

    They were a result of authentic and difficult work - these are the communications which had a permanent value.


    West they could choose more women and Russians who look

     

    Although one of the main power imbalances in the international relations, between the first world and the second world, is that the latter is viewed as a kind of wife factory by men in the former.

    So that Russia or Brazil or Thailand (perhaps also China), became viewed as a destination for middle age men from wealthy countries, to marry local women, and local women view foreigners from the wealthy countries as higher status.

    Even EU countries like Poland, are acting as a kind of wife (and also prostitute) factory for wealthy North Western European countries.

    Not that there is an easy solution for this, beyond local economic development (but the middle income trap makes this very slow for second world countries).


    balanced with more traditional and sustainable

     

    Teaching about traditional sustainability, would have to be from real knowledge and expertise, if it is to have any value that could contribute to other countries.

    In Russia and many other postsoviet countries, there is currently high prioritization to the industrialists and factories, and very often low prioritization for ordinary's peoples health and lifestyle. So it would be viewed more of an antiexample for sustainability, if there was international attention on this topic. Nobody is going to learn from Russia in this value-set.*

    Paradoxically international attention would actually be helpful though for local people, as if the authorities in Russia became embarassed about the low sustainability, then they might raise its priority level, and invest in improving the situation. This is because the authorities prioritize highly their self-image.

    -

    ​*It's like if Brazil's government was teaching about "Order and Progress", which is the slogan on the Brazilian flag. You would have to be quite gullible, to go to Brazil to learn "Order and Progress". On the other hand, if you go to Brazil to learn about the activities where Brazilian culture excels - like football and joie de vivre, then you might be wise.


    Tradcon will probably be the next thing after this new burst of leftism
     
    Yes we can be sure that traditional things of value, will be popular again. This is universal things we know are good, like clean water, beautiful nature, healthy ecology, high quality products (made in countries like Germany) , etc. Or even respecting old people, honouring your family, etc.

    But this would not be fake posing about "traditionalism" which is at best a symptom of lack of traditional sustainability. (People start to become obsessed about water, if they live in a desert.)

    Replies: @Coconuts, @Coconuts, @Philip Owen

  54. One of the more interesting accounts still left on Twitter Randy aka Egg Report recently got banned and is now on Substack.

  55. @Felix Keverich
    @Lokke

    Jewish power and control over Western societies is overwhelming. Attempting to win over Western public opinion with anti-Semetism will get us nowhere. Only good for trolling. We should promote anti-Semetism domestically as a form of immunisation strategy.

    Tradcons are a joke, and this is how the vast majority of Russians see them. Imposing religious conservatism on Russians will provoke a poweful backlash from society, which is the mistake that Polish conservatives made.

    Whatever you think about Sovietism, it's a powerful set of symbols, respected by people around the world and feared by the West, which alone makes it useful.

    Replies: @The Big Red Scary, @Pericles, @Thorfinnsson, @Passer by

    Pointless to try to make Russia more feared by the West. We already have our hysterical media doing that for us and they probably do it better than you could. I think Putin does a good job: internationally stay out of trouble yourself and make sure troublemakers suffer, nationally rebuild rebuild rebuild, economically and socially.

    A dose of anti-semitism is good for the social body though.

    • Agree: Jatt Aryaa
  56. @Svevlad
    @Jatt Aryaa

    EIC?

    It mostly arose as the result of the Mayflower not being sunk to the bottom of the ocean, sparking American religious (more like cult) autism, on top of their mandatory genetic autism (from the NW European gene-lib populations they're descended from)

    Replies: @Jatt Aryaa

    Idk I read it awhile back. Tbh, Brahmin & Anglo takes are both bad so I’ll split the middle.

    I just finished lifting Idgaf tbh, Chieh will now say post physique; after cut nigga.

    I don’t feel overhand row or regular curl in lat/bi but Yates Row hits both so subbing it.

    I also recently discovered wisdom of not doing Squat, Deadlift & Run on same day. 🙂

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

    • Replies: @Svevlad
    @Jatt Aryaa

    Dunno what you really are talking about, I have no idea what this EIC is.

    Replies: @Jatt Aryaa

  57. @Jatt Aryaa
    Evangelism rooted in personal experience arose as an ੧੮੨੦s reaction to EIC turning Hindu.

    Also the lived experience over written logic is dual purpose. One it rips off Bhakti, ੨ the academic structures cannot keep up with technical/social change so open up the books to those well connected so to speak.

    Interesting that the Woke can be called christian/will eventually convert. Other religions seem to be going ultra trad in response, institutionally I mean.

    So is the conclusion that christians are gay & it took ੫੦੦/੨੦੦੦ years to figure this out? Hindus will/have converted though.

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

    Replies: @Jim Christian, @Svevlad, @Coconuts

    It is only in the US, I think this looks more like an elite or top down thing in Europe.

    The EIC continuing to keep missionaries out and build temples would have been interesting.

    • Thanks: Jatt Aryaa
  58. @Coconuts
    @Lokke


    Russia’s PR must improve dramatically if Moscow wants to have a shot at presenting a viable long-term alternative to the western sphere.
     
    Looking at it realistically China, India, the Islamic World, Africa are all more likely to generate alternatives to the West long-term than Russia. Russia just lacks the weight of numbers needed. As it goes, most of these places are also becoming more connected to and directly involved with Western countries than Russia is.

    Russia may be able to compete with the US for influence in Europe, but if it wants it at the moment probably should emphasise Sovietism, because among people in their early 20s Socialism, Marxism, the hard progressive left is one of the contemporary 'in-things'. When talking to the West they could choose more women and Russians who look Central Asian as spokesmen, and talk about the longstanding Russian understanding of the solidarity and unity of working peoples, world peace and progressive humanity. Russia will seem more trendy, but could also position itself as more wise, understanding as a result of the Soviet era how progressivism needs to be balanced with more traditional and sustainable values.

    Another productive approach would be talking about deconstructing colonialist narratives about Russia in the West which obviously derive from mid-century German influence; this would be unpopular in Eastern Europe but would likely find an audience in the core West.

    Tradcon will probably be the next thing after this new burst of leftism has faded away but that could be a couple of decades into the future, in the meantime Tradcons need to find effective ways of preserving as much as possible of what they value.

    Replies: @Jatt Aryaa, @Dmitry

    Nigger and Fag worship is trend in West.

    Better to emphasize Warrior nature of Russian society than try to appeal to idiots.

    Western brain is simple traditional (non nigger non fag) = backward unless strong

    Tradcon is just nigger fag worship with extra steps.

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

  59. I am actually writing a compendium of astrological phenomena and their related expressions in life on Earth. I mostly focus on the precession of the equinoxes and the transits of planets. I have related the Neptune-Pluto cycle to the precession, and we are in what I call a transitional age. That is, in few hundred years, the vernal equinox will pass into sidereal Aquarius (0 Aries being defined as 15 degrees from Pleiades), and the current Neptune-Pluto cycle, the beginning of which is in 1890s and the end will be in the Aeon of Aquarius.

    Last transitional age actually occurred around the fall of the Roman Republic, and lasted literally until the fall of Rome. And what have seen back then? The decline of the old religions and the rapid replacement of thereof. Christianity then came to dominate the West for 2000 years, now it is in decline, and likely to be replaced with a new orthodoxy. Actually, to keep it less Eurocentric, religions tend to change and morph with the precession. The Jews were made a diaspora. Buddhism switched from being Indian, to being East Asian. Christianity’s antagonist Islam appeared when the Uranus-Neptune conjunction was in opposition to the equinox in Pisces. The fish, a traditional Christian symbol with astrological connotations.

    I am actually just scraping the surface of this topic and that is because I am a historian, who discovered astrology in university, and was only able to read up on it after my studies. I have a blog where I discuss some of the cycles and associated theories. Some of the stuff I am more proud than the other:

    Astrological Rereading of Hesiod
    https://leosmundaneastrology.blogspot.com/2019/12/rulers-of-aeons.html

    Technological Revolutions and the cycle of Uranus-Pluto
    https://leosmundaneastrology.blogspot.com/2020/12/three-conjunctions-and-three-inventions.html

    I was heavily stoned when I wrote this one:
    https://leosmundaneastrology.blogspot.com/2020/03/a-millennialist-rant-about-age-of.html

    America’s Uranus return is coming
    https://leosmundaneastrology.blogspot.com/2019/12/americas-uranus-return-2029.html

    I also suggest Barbault’s index…
    https://time-price-research-astrofin.blogspot.com/2015/10/barbaults-cyclic-index-and-ganeaus.html

    • Thanks: Boomthorkell
    • LOL: Jatt Aryaa
    • Replies: @AP
    @Insomniac Resurrected

    This project of yours is more realistic than your opinions of Ukraine. Good luck to you on this. My wife has a friend in Moscow, who graduated with a degree in one of the hard sciences from MGU, and who works as a successful professional astrologist. This person has some connected clients. I am not a believer but who knows, there may be something to it.



    Like other elite Soviet families, my wife’s parents consulted a good astrologist to do her chart when she was a kid. The astrologist predicted that she would move abroad to the West -a bold claim in the late Brezhnev era - correctly predicted her future husband’s astrological sign, and the number of children she would have.

    Replies: @Insomniac Resurrected, @Rattus Norwegius

  60. @Lokke
    Russia's PR must improve dramatically if Moscow wants to have a shot at presenting a viable long-term alternative to the western sphere. That shouldn't be too difficult as the West's descent into pure demonic madness becomes more and more cartoonish by the day. The problem is Russian leadership seems to be stuck in a Soviet-era mentality. When most regular westerners look at Russia today, they don't associate it with any particular set of civilizational values. They associate Russia with "corruption" and "oligarchy". Meanwhile, the West is immediately associated with "liberalism", "secularism" etc. Unlike in the case of Russia, there is no ambiguity. This needs to change.

    Instead of raging about "neo-nazis" and "fascists" in Ukraine, Russia should be calling the Kyiv regime out for what it really is: a crypto-Judaic, ultraliberal entity that is genociding the Ukrainian people and using misguided Slavic nationalism for slavophobic, globalist purposes.

    The soviet nostalgia also needs to die ASAP. It is cringey, decrepit, and utterly unattractive for anyone under the age of 70. Sovietism must be explicitly denounced as what it was: a hypermaterialistic experiment with Jewish origins that almost succeeded in wiping out Russian civilization. It's a disgrace that so many Russian nationalists are still deriding Solzhenitsyn as a "traitor". This kind of mentality is the Russian equivalent of Boomerconism.

    Russia should more explicitly embrace a traditionalist, pro-life, religious message that will be in clear contrast with the "woke", satanic and doomed West. It is time for Russia to re-engage in the global civilizational struggle. The current iteration of "Russian nationalism" is too soft - it's an intermediate step between sovietism and western liberalism that is spiritually weak, stands for very little, and so is unsustainable in the long run. It is destined to crumble as soon as a critical mass of "hip" urbanite youth starts demanding the right to sodomy and "liberation" (I hope Russians are looking at what is going on with Polish youth and taking it as a warning sign).

    Replies: @Beckow, @Felix Keverich, @Coconuts, @Yevardian, @Anatoly Karlin, @Sinotibetan

    It’s a disgrace that so many Russian nationalists are still deriding Solzhenitsyn as a “traitor”. This kind of mentality is the Russian equivalent of Boomerconism.

    What’s wrong with calling a spade a spade?

    • Replies: @TheTotallyAnonymous
    @Yevardian

    It's amazing just how unsympathetic you come off (if Armenians of your type are a majority, no wonder everything that's wrong with Armenia right now is as it is).

    < has no respect for true ethnic Russian nationhood and still remembers the USSR affectionately, even though it gave away Armenian lands to Azerbaijan for the sake of geopolitical favors to Turkey that didn't even pay off for the USSR.
    < probably has this attitude because as Armenoid diaspora doesn't feel secure enough if his host nation hasn't been sufficiently cucked of its nationhood to his liking.
    < shits on Balkan nations (with Serbs implicitly in mind) for being "defeated" and "losing wars" even though Armenia just got crushed by Azerbaijan in late 2020 (despite facing better odds than Serbs did in the 1990's), but above all by the atrociously bad politics of its incompetent tabloid journalist leader (whose own apathy was complicit in his rise).
    < has a severe inferiority complex about his own nation and servile peasant mentality, so frequently shits on other random nations to cope and compensate.
    < exudes pettiness and cynicism beyond belief
    < probably some other things as well


    What’s wrong with calling a spade a spade?

     

    It's so pointless and dumb to get "outraged" about how Solzhenitsyn was a traitor to a now non-existent entity that didn't have the best interests of its ethnic Russian majority in mind. Organic Russian nation > USSR.
  61. @Lokke
    Russia's PR must improve dramatically if Moscow wants to have a shot at presenting a viable long-term alternative to the western sphere. That shouldn't be too difficult as the West's descent into pure demonic madness becomes more and more cartoonish by the day. The problem is Russian leadership seems to be stuck in a Soviet-era mentality. When most regular westerners look at Russia today, they don't associate it with any particular set of civilizational values. They associate Russia with "corruption" and "oligarchy". Meanwhile, the West is immediately associated with "liberalism", "secularism" etc. Unlike in the case of Russia, there is no ambiguity. This needs to change.

    Instead of raging about "neo-nazis" and "fascists" in Ukraine, Russia should be calling the Kyiv regime out for what it really is: a crypto-Judaic, ultraliberal entity that is genociding the Ukrainian people and using misguided Slavic nationalism for slavophobic, globalist purposes.

    The soviet nostalgia also needs to die ASAP. It is cringey, decrepit, and utterly unattractive for anyone under the age of 70. Sovietism must be explicitly denounced as what it was: a hypermaterialistic experiment with Jewish origins that almost succeeded in wiping out Russian civilization. It's a disgrace that so many Russian nationalists are still deriding Solzhenitsyn as a "traitor". This kind of mentality is the Russian equivalent of Boomerconism.

    Russia should more explicitly embrace a traditionalist, pro-life, religious message that will be in clear contrast with the "woke", satanic and doomed West. It is time for Russia to re-engage in the global civilizational struggle. The current iteration of "Russian nationalism" is too soft - it's an intermediate step between sovietism and western liberalism that is spiritually weak, stands for very little, and so is unsustainable in the long run. It is destined to crumble as soon as a critical mass of "hip" urbanite youth starts demanding the right to sodomy and "liberation" (I hope Russians are looking at what is going on with Polish youth and taking it as a warning sign).

    Replies: @Beckow, @Felix Keverich, @Coconuts, @Yevardian, @Anatoly Karlin, @Sinotibetan

    It’s a disgrace that so many Russian nationalists are still deriding Solzhenitsyn as a “traitor”.

    That is literally something that sovoks, not Russian nationalists, do.

    Kindly refrain from offering us “advice” on what to do when you don’t have a clue what is going on.

    • Replies: @Lokke
    @Anatoly Karlin

    I guess Sovoks make up the vast majority of the people who claim to be Russian nationalists online then. Feel free to be an arrogant prick and ignore any "advice", but don't be shocked if you suddenly find the streets of Moscow and St. Petersburg are occupied by hundreds of thousands of soyboys and whores demanding liberation and infinity penises as we are now seeing in Poland. It happens faster than you think. Russia's social and economic system isn`t really fundamentally different from the western one. Hollow nationalism is unsustainable in the long run, and I don't have to be a specialist in Russian affairs to know that.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @Anatoly Karlin

  62. @The Big Red Scary
    I was recently in Crimea, on holiday with a group of senior scientists from [insert favorite naukagrad]. Perhaps my first impressions of Crimea will be of interest here.

    General observations

    Under Russian rule, Crimea is divided into two administrative units, the Republic of Crimea, and the City of Sevastopol. The official languages of the Republic of Crimea are Russian, Ukrainian, and Tatar. Everyone, including the Tatars, speaks Russian with a standard accent, as opposed to people from, say, Kharkоv, who speak with a noticeable southern accent. You see a fair number of mosques as you travel through the countryside (Tatars seem to live mostly inland, not on the seaside), and you meet Tatars selling vegetables and street food.

    Both villages and cities are fairly tidy, and very friendly, by Russian standards. An American acquaintance who has lived in Russia for over twenty years and is also married to a Russian woman visited Crimea 15 years ago and said it was a 'Sovok shithole', so it must have improved at some point. As the parts of Ukraine with which I'm familiar have also improved over that same period, I'm guessing that both Ukraine and Russia are to thank for these improvements. In terms of infrastructure, the obvious recent improvements are a new airport in Simferopol, the bridge over the Kerch straight, and road improvements. Being cut off from Ukrainian water and electricity is of course a deterioration, but for now, the problems are being solved and you don't notice the problem in daily life.

    I saw one police car, no police men on the street, and no soldiers or military vehicles the entire time we were there, which surprised me, since even in a small Moscow region village, you will see a police car roll through once or twice a day. Insofar as there is resentment concerning the change in management, it must be rather tame. Presumably the unhappiest people left. Compare this to Israel, let alone the West Bank or Gaza.

    We were in Feodosiya for Victory Day. Fun and festive. I'm told it was more subdued than usual, because of epidemic restrictions, but you could hardly tell. In principle you are supposed to put on a mask when entering a shop, but people in Crimea are much more relaxed about this than in Moscow region.

    Summaries of opinions that I encountered

    1) Handyman, about 60 years old, reared in Russia, lived for 30 years in south Ukraine, where he reared his own family and became a Ukrainian citizen, now trying to regain his Russian citizenship so that he can legally own the Crimean land, near Sudak, that he bought in 2013. He's generally happy about the change in management, since he finds the new Ukrainian government unfriendly to Russians, but thinks Crimea is worse off economically, because they no longer get Ukrainian tourists, and Russian tourists prefer to vacation in the Mediterranean, since that is more high status.

    2) Local private car rental man, about 40 years old, grew up in small Crimean seaside city between Feodosiya and Sudak. Curious about why we moved back to Russia from abroad (Russians ask me this typically once a day). He said his classmate is moving back from Denmark, because he can't stand the homosexual propaganda in Danish schools.

    3) Neighbour of handyman, about 60 years old, originally from Donetsk. Thinks homosexuals are just dandy, would prefer to remain in Ukraine, wants to be part of the EU. Thinks I'm mad for moving to Russia.

    4) Lord of guesthouse, about 40, grew up in same small Crimean seaside city, friend of car rental man. Half Russian, half Gagauz (Orthodox Christian Turks from near Moldavia). Very cheerful, helpful, prosperous. Beautiful houses and garden built on hillside, with his father (the Gagauz) and brother. Change of management has been bad for them financially. The kind of Russians who holiday in Crimea are less willing to pay European prices. Russians from Moscow and St. Petersburg make fine guests. They are "European". He doesn't like non-European people from the ethnic republics (he mentioned Chuvashia and Mordovia, in particular), who are uncultured, drink too much, listen to loud music. He thinks Ukrainian law and taxes are preferable to Russian. He didn't bring up homosexuals.

    5) Taxi driver from seaside city back to Simferopol airport, friend of car rental man. The new management is good. Transition was smooth. Paperwork was not too onerous. Taxes are higher, it is true, and the vodka isn't as tasty, but the khokhols are nuts and want to kill us.

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin

    An American acquaintance who has lived in Russia for over twenty years and is also married to a Russian woman visited Crimea 15 years ago and said it was a ‘Sovok shithole’, so it must have improved at some point. As the parts of Ukraine with which I’m familiar have also improved over that same period, I’m guessing that both Ukraine and Russia are to thank for these improvements.

    Crimea was famously derelict even by Ukrainian standards prior to 2014, so the improvement is 100% on account of Russia.

    One visual example of “before and after”:

    • Thanks: The Big Red Scary
    • Replies: @AP
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Obviously Russian spent a lot in Crimea, but one could also find roads in Ukraine that look a lot better now than they did in 2013.

  63. @Beckow
    @Lokke


    Russia should more explicitly embrace a traditionalist, pro-life, religious message that will be in clear contrast with the “woke”, satanic and doomed West.
     
    Russia is in an existential struggle with the West, so the insane wokism benefits them. Game theory. Whether it is true or not, Russia perceives the West (and by extension all Westerners) as irredeemably hostile. There is enough to show that it is true, from petty harassment in every area, incl. sports, to Western revisionist myths about WWII.

    The hostile attitudes are very widespread and include not only liberals, but also large parts of the conservative spectrum. Often it seems that the two sides are competing who shows more hostility to anything Russian. The occasional dissenters - like Trump for a while, before him Berlusconi or Fillon - are hounded out from the public space. At some point this is a society problem and not just the elites.

    Who is there to reach out to? By definition, strengthening a hostile West is self-defeating for Russia. For all we know, Russia funds BLM and the crazy academics - more West goes mad, weaker they are. After all West enthusiastically funded Afghan proto-Taleban to fight Russia. It is ugly, but it is existential and the traditionalists in the West are too weak or too anti-Russian to matter.

    Replies: @Thorfinnsson

    There is enough to show that it is true, from petty harassment in every area, incl. sports, to Western revisionist myths about WWII.

    This is called “doubling down”.

  64. What I find in the article about the crisis and challenges of Christianity and they seem to neatly coincide with the Neptune-Pluto conjunctions. The planet Neptune is the ruler of Pisces and is associated with religion and ideology, Pluto is creative destruction.

    The peak of the Crusades and the 30 years was coincide with the Neptune-Pluto oppositions.

    I however believe that the secularisation of Christianity as expressed by SJWs is not going to lead to a change in Christianity, rather it will be it death knell. And if Christianity does adopt SJW, the latter will be a trojan horse.

    It is a question if the Christian religion will survive into the upcoming Aeon. The Greco-Roman polytheism didn’t survive the transition. But it informed European thought for millennia ahead.

  65. @Felix Keverich
    @Lokke

    Jewish power and control over Western societies is overwhelming. Attempting to win over Western public opinion with anti-Semetism will get us nowhere. Only good for trolling. We should promote anti-Semetism domestically as a form of immunisation strategy.

    Tradcons are a joke, and this is how the vast majority of Russians see them. Imposing religious conservatism on Russians will provoke a poweful backlash from society, which is the mistake that Polish conservatives made.

    Whatever you think about Sovietism, it's a powerful set of symbols, respected by people around the world and feared by the West, which alone makes it useful.

    Replies: @The Big Red Scary, @Pericles, @Thorfinnsson, @Passer by

    The Poles created a myth that their Church was an heroic source of resistance to foreign communist rule, and then the Polish conservatives imported American boomercon policies which will end in the same way.

    Rather than copying the failing Polish strategy, Russia can instead build up its church as a highly prestigious body. The new armed forces cathedral is a positive step in this direction.

  66. Bashibuzuk says:
    @Jatt Aryaa
    @Kent Nationalist

    Imagine being the Aryans who subjugated India & Europe, and not an Anglo christcuck.

    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/781981619073318943/846343183499919370/main-qimg-64fe04b0a7710527ff80ff5957d531c6.png

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @DNS, @Max Payne

    Better use Nuristani and Kalash as the proxy for Aryans. Among the Tadjik, use Badakhshan people. Also, don’t forget the Hephtalite factor. Folks on the frescoe below are Spenta Huna (White Huns):

    Might have influenced Gilgit-Baltistan folks.

    Finally, the close distance of the northern Hindustani to the Aryan proxies among the modern populations is easily explained by the fact that northern Hindustan has been invaded countless times over some three thousand years from exactly the region (Central Asia) that you consider as “Aryan “.

    Think Kanishka and his Indo-Scythians. It has been done so often that some of your northern Brahmin populations ended up 78% R1a. That’s the level it reaches in Vologda…

    That is why northern Hindustani are often of Aryan stock. If your Y haplogroup is R1a then your ancestors subdued these swarthy Dravidians and for lack of a better choice slept with their rather ugly women. Tough luck, but it might have been worse if your ancestors ended up invading Lake Chad region as some Y haplogroup R1b Yamnaya offshoot population did.

    😉

    • Replies: @Svevlad
    @Bashibuzuk

    As we learned recently, seems like the Aryans were more like militaristic merchants (think republic of Venice or Genoa, but on land) who basically assimilated the natives who were probably Papua tier diverse culturally, the language becoming lingua franca because the nomadic Aryans had a monopoly on transportation between tribes and city-states.

    Less subdued, more bought out.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    , @Jatt Aryaa
    @Bashibuzuk

    Maybe, Idc about race & it's a troll map.

    Jatts are recent arrivals. I'll say it bluntly, without religion you cannot be Arya & it's better to be a Bantu following Dharma than a White Christian.

    S Indian Brahmin cluster with Tajik too. We care less about même gene maps since we still have our ancestral religions.

    That's something White nationalists will have to cope with; they don't 'have it all'.

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

  67. @melanf
    @not-me


    but still many youngsters,
     
    In reality, not much at all. Recently, the film "The Plague Doctor" was released - this film was fiercely cursed by Navalny's fans as a mockery of their idol. On the Internet, there was a whole company with the exposure of the film. The result? When the new comics were announced (with the characters of the film), a crowd of schoolchildren almost demolished a bookstore in Moscow.

    https://img02.rl0.ru/afisha/e1200x600i/daily.afisha.ru/uploads/images/b/3b/b3b7e3b8be002a66a3f48162599f514e.png

    https://cs12.pikabu.ru/post_img/2021/05/19/9/1621439628165063818.webp



    The absolute majority of youngsters do not give a damn about Navalny

    Replies: @The Big Red Scary, @Insomniac Resurrected

    the film “The Plague Doctor” was released

    Various bitch ass commentators, like Khovansky, linked the films plot to Navalny and the protest crowd. But from what I have heard, it does not match…

  68. Bashibuzuk says:

    Words vs deeds:

    (Google translated from русский язык)

    Seaborne exports of gasoline and naphtha from Russian Baltic and Arctic ports to Baltic ports grew almost sixfold over several years to 2.86 million in 2020, of which 2.53 million tons were shipped from Ust-Luga, according to the terminal. Refinitiv Eikon. About half of the total supply of light distillates was delivered to the Latvian Ventspils, another 20% – to the Estonian port of Paldiski. The export sea flow of fuel oil from the Russian Baltic to Estonia in 2020 increased to 1.4 million tons from 0.45 million a year earlier and has already exceeded 0.77 million in less than five months of this year, according to Refinitiv. Belarus also joined the process of reorientation of oil product exports from the Baltic ports this year, having signed an agreement with Russia on the transit transshipment of fuel from its refineries in Ust-Luga and St. Petersburg. But Belarusian gasoline and fuel oil, transshipped in Russian ports, partly also end up at the Baltic terminals again.

    https://finbi.ru/68420-rossiyskie-nefteprodukty-uhodyat-v-pribaltiku-po-vode.html

    Business as usual: sell ressources, get dollars and euros and send them to some Western Bank account. All this “decoupling from the hostile West ” blathering by the RusFed Putinist mouthpieces is so full of shit. They couldn’t even manage decoupling from the Baltic States pooches who bark and piss on Russian pants each time they can. Pathetic and hilarious at the same time.

    • Replies: @Insomniac Resurrected
    @Bashibuzuk


    Business as usual: sell ressources, get dollars and euros and send them to some Western Bank account. All this “decoupling from the hostile West ” blathering by the RusFed Putinist mouthpieces is so full of shit.
     
    Do you know anything about Importzameshcheniye?

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    , @Anatoly Karlin
    @Bashibuzuk


    Business as usual: sell ressources, get dollars and euros and send them to some Western Bank account. All this “decoupling from the hostile West ” blathering by the RusFed Putinist mouthpieces is so full of shit.
     
    I realize that you wish for that to be true, but you should really stop peddling your fantasies as reality.

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/overview-of-russian-ports/

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    , @Passer by
    @Bashibuzuk


    All this “decoupling from the hostile West ” blathering
     
    To be fair, there is active dollar decoupling (dropping below 50 % of exports), decoupling from US treasuries, a decoupling on trade (Western share in trade is decreasing), diplomatic decoupling (US diplomatic missions are under crack down) + asian consulates overtook european consulates, NGO decoupling (yesterday 3 german NGOs were banned, plus Khodorkovsky entity dismantled), car decoupling (asian and russian cars dominate the roads), import substitution (production of plastics, farmaceutics, agribusiness, etc.), space decoupling (Russia to abandon ISS in 4 years and to work with China on Moon projects), tourism decoupling (top 3 destinations are now non-western), oil and gas export rebalancing towards Asia, a rebalancing of infrastructure towards Asia (BAM is being expanded) etc.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon

    , @Svevlad
    @Bashibuzuk

    Just because oil and gas exports grew doesn't mean nothing else grew more

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

  69. mal says:
    @Yellowface Anon
    @mal

    I'm not sure how automation and AI (both elite-initiated or bottom-up efforts) go into the economic and demographic equation. It can both offset losses in labor pool and creating new forms of (more skill-intensive) jobs, or create mass unemployment on its own.

    (Or we'll have a 3rd century Rome scenario - lower population and workers moving to low-productivity sectors like farming means far less relevance of North America in the World's economy. I dunno, there is even a Schwab-Gates depopulation scenario)

    Replies: @mal

    Automation always results in mass unemployment and is always resolved the same way – government spending. Usually for war though it doesn’t have to be this way. But the underlying math is the same – government must run budget deficit to absorb surplus labor.

    Unemployed Luddite weavers became convicts and soldiers to colonize Australia or whatever, unemployed farmers became cannon fodder in World War 1, unemployed workers became cannon fodder in World War 2. Wars destroy capital (burn factories etc) and create new markets for the victors, which helps solve the problem temporarily.

    After WW2, US gained market share but by 1970’s German and Japanese economies rebuilt and US choked again. By 1980’s Reagan/Volcker has to go back to government spending and they dramatically increased US budget deficits and hiked rates to kill German and Japanese economies again by attracting global capital to US government financing. It was a suicidal move (US dollar nearly collapsed as a reserve currency by 1991) but luckily Gorbachev bailed them out.

    Anyway… High skill jobs don’t help most people because average person has IQ of 100 and you don’t want them in charge of $1,000,000 robot, or making any critical decisions. But they still must consume the robot output somehow, or robot owner goes bankrupt.

    Depopulation would be a disaster for the elites as they are the ones who own all the robots and factories etc. They would find themselves redundant. No people means no political power. Squirrels don’t care what Schwab-Gates think about, only people do.

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
    @mal

    You shouldn't push this too far. There was a secular rise in unskilled unemployment in Britain from 1870 - 1913, which may have contributed to emigration (unsure of the skill level of emigrants), but overall unemployment was quite low. This is what you'd expect in an expanding economy with relatively little labor power, price floors, and regulation. And after the huge gold discoveries in South Africa, Alaska, and Siberia the money supply was expanding by the end of the 19th century.

    Mean unemployment for the entire period was 4.4%, and by 1913 unemployment was just 2.1%: https://sci-hub.st/https://doi.org/10.1017/S0022050702001031

    Automation creates sectoral unemployment, but it creates new demand by lowering prices for consumers and increasing the income of capital and skilled labor. The surplus income is then spent elsewhere, increasing output in those sectors.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @mal

    , @Insomniac Resurrected
    @mal


    Depopulation would be a disaster for the elites as they are the ones who own all the robots and factories etc. They would find themselves redundant. No people means no political power. Squirrels don’t care what Schwab-Gates think about, only people do.
     
    Your post is informed by the consumerist/capitalist paradigm. But what if you switch the paradigm? You can totally reprogram society.

    Imagine 3D printers making anything on demand. You don't need the population of consumers of factory made goods. Money may disappear. People could be grown in labs. If you factor in every variable, you can imagine a society vastly different from what it is now.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @mal, @A123

  70. @Felix Keverich
    @Lokke

    Jewish power and control over Western societies is overwhelming. Attempting to win over Western public opinion with anti-Semetism will get us nowhere. Only good for trolling. We should promote anti-Semetism domestically as a form of immunisation strategy.

    Tradcons are a joke, and this is how the vast majority of Russians see them. Imposing religious conservatism on Russians will provoke a poweful backlash from society, which is the mistake that Polish conservatives made.

    Whatever you think about Sovietism, it's a powerful set of symbols, respected by people around the world and feared by the West, which alone makes it useful.

    Replies: @The Big Red Scary, @Pericles, @Thorfinnsson, @Passer by

    Bear in mind that the demographic situation in Russia is “extraordinary” as Putin directly says, so continuing to do what you have been doing is a path to nowhere.

    The country is on a long term decline, both as share of world population and of world GDP.

    Your government is crying about “traditional family values” in countless documents and in the Constitution precisely due to that.

    Guess why the hated pension reforms. You guys don’t have children and then you cry and whine why you are forced to work longer to cover for the lack of young people and ageing population.

    • Replies: @Felix Keverich
    @Passer by


    The country is on a long term decline, both as share of world population and of world GDP.
     
    Misleading. Pretty much every country outside Africa will decline as a share of population and GDP. US and its allies will decline faster than others.

    Replies: @Passer by, @Passer by

  71. @mal
    @Yellowface Anon

    Automation always results in mass unemployment and is always resolved the same way - government spending. Usually for war though it doesn't have to be this way. But the underlying math is the same - government must run budget deficit to absorb surplus labor.

    Unemployed Luddite weavers became convicts and soldiers to colonize Australia or whatever, unemployed farmers became cannon fodder in World War 1, unemployed workers became cannon fodder in World War 2. Wars destroy capital (burn factories etc) and create new markets for the victors, which helps solve the problem temporarily.

    After WW2, US gained market share but by 1970's German and Japanese economies rebuilt and US choked again. By 1980's Reagan/Volcker has to go back to government spending and they dramatically increased US budget deficits and hiked rates to kill German and Japanese economies again by attracting global capital to US government financing. It was a suicidal move (US dollar nearly collapsed as a reserve currency by 1991) but luckily Gorbachev bailed them out.

    Anyway... High skill jobs don't help most people because average person has IQ of 100 and you don't want them in charge of $1,000,000 robot, or making any critical decisions. But they still must consume the robot output somehow, or robot owner goes bankrupt.

    Depopulation would be a disaster for the elites as they are the ones who own all the robots and factories etc. They would find themselves redundant. No people means no political power. Squirrels don't care what Schwab-Gates think about, only people do.

    Replies: @Thorfinnsson, @Insomniac Resurrected

    You shouldn’t push this too far. There was a secular rise in unskilled unemployment in Britain from 1870 – 1913, which may have contributed to emigration (unsure of the skill level of emigrants), but overall unemployment was quite low. This is what you’d expect in an expanding economy with relatively little labor power, price floors, and regulation. And after the huge gold discoveries in South Africa, Alaska, and Siberia the money supply was expanding by the end of the 19th century.

    Mean unemployment for the entire period was 4.4%, and by 1913 unemployment was just 2.1%: https://sci-hub.st/https://doi.org/10.1017/S0022050702001031

    Automation creates sectoral unemployment, but it creates new demand by lowering prices for consumers and increasing the income of capital and skilled labor. The surplus income is then spent elsewhere, increasing output in those sectors.

    • Agree: Vishnugupta
    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
    @Thorfinnsson

    The Schumpeterian view that creative destruction leads to both destroyed jobs in obsolete sectors and new jobs in emerging sectors are true as far as economies are geared to production and consumption for both capital and labor - that's the premise you've spotted.

    Once labor can be substituted in all forms (that is why AI is a break from previous technological improvements), only capital is needed to reproduce itself (remember the Matrix triology?). So, the "redundancy" is actually the result of the particular set of relations of production under AI technology - you'll have techno-feudalism whatever way you approach the extensive use of AI because of that "redundancy" and resultant dependence on economic support of the chronically unemployed.

    Replies: @Thorfinnsson

    , @mal
    @Thorfinnsson


    There was a secular rise in unskilled unemployment in Britain from 1870 – 1913, which may have contributed to emigration (unsure of the skill level of emigrants), but overall unemployment was quite low.
     
    Well sure.

    Many people were encouraged to leave the UK to settle overseas. Between 1853 and 1913, as many as 13 million British citizens left the country.
     
    https://lifeintheuktests.co.uk/study-guide/?chapter=3&section=4/

    For context, in 1900 UK population was around 40 million. Also, wasn't 10% of London female population in Victorian England employed as prostitutes?

    To be fair, you are right - debt levels did drop in the UK by 1913. But losing millions of your fellow citizens in the process is the quickest way to lose your Empire and your country. We probably want a smarter way of doing things, and not the losing UK way.

    Automation creates sectoral unemployment, but it creates new demand by lowering prices for consumers and increasing the income of capital and skilled labor. The surplus income is then spent elsewhere, increasing output in those sectors.
     
    All that income comes from debt. Unemployed people have very little or no income, and they can't create new demand. No new demand, no income for capital and skilled labor. So somebody has to step in and borrow money/create debt to provide income to the unemployed. If private sector fails to do so, this role falls on the state. Otherwise, all those automated industries fail and value of capital collapses. And we can't allow that in a modern economy.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @Thorfinnsson

  72. @Svevlad
    @A123

    more rightoid seething

    90% just don't want to deal with the bullshit and retardoids kvetching to put on a mask

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon

    There are 3 types of people: COVID True Believers who is staying inside nearly all the time, the Resistance type who has cut off all contact with anyone ever seen masked once and increasingly living among like-minded people, and the vast majority of “sheep” who care not ideology and only want to avoid trouble from state enforcers by masking up.

    Regrettable, since this is what “behavioral scientist” scums want and that means (as Arendt pointed out) evil is often banal.

  73. @Marshal Marlow
    @Triteleia Laxa

    China has got time before its vast pool of peasants become city folk.

    But the question is, what can they do to enlarge their working class? I'm guessing that China will never go down the lets-import-foreigners trap the western world has fallen in to. But what will it do instead? I'm thinking they might find ways to actually make it viable for couples to have families by intervening in the economy in ways that enables one wage earner to afford to support a mortgage and a family of two.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon

    They aren’t avoiding the “swamp-your-own-place-with-barbarians” trap and had already decades of state-mandated dysgenics – see African immigrant labor in Guangzhou. But it’s still early to change a lot of things.

    • Replies: @Malenfant
    @Yellowface Anon

    Oh come on. It's not that bad. There are about 10-20k Africans in Guangzhou. Let's say that there are 15k Africans there now -- which, after Covid, might if anything be an over-estimate. The population of Guangzhou is easily 15M. Thus the African resident population is 0.1% of the city's population.

    https://africansinchina.net/how-many-africans-are-there-in-guangzhou/

    Besides, many of those Africans are traders and businessmen with active ties to African nations. Much of the time, they're agents for African importers and distribution firms. "Abdel! It's good that you're still in Guangzhou. Listen, I need you to head down to this port and inspect a shipment of jeans that is soon going to be sealed in a container and shipped by sea to Lagos."

    As black people go, that's about as good as it gets.

    Things are actually far worse in Japan, where ever other Family-Mart employee is Burmese, Filipino, or Iranian -- and where every street corner hustler in Roppongi or Shinjuku is, mysteriously, black. Those niggas ain't working for distribution firms during the day.

    Replies: @silviosilver

  74. @Bashibuzuk
    Words vs deeds:

    (Google translated from русский язык)

    Seaborne exports of gasoline and naphtha from Russian Baltic and Arctic ports to Baltic ports grew almost sixfold over several years to 2.86 million in 2020, of which 2.53 million tons were shipped from Ust-Luga, according to the terminal. Refinitiv Eikon. About half of the total supply of light distillates was delivered to the Latvian Ventspils, another 20% - to the Estonian port of Paldiski. The export sea flow of fuel oil from the Russian Baltic to Estonia in 2020 increased to 1.4 million tons from 0.45 million a year earlier and has already exceeded 0.77 million in less than five months of this year, according to Refinitiv. Belarus also joined the process of reorientation of oil product exports from the Baltic ports this year, having signed an agreement with Russia on the transit transshipment of fuel from its refineries in Ust-Luga and St. Petersburg. But Belarusian gasoline and fuel oil, transshipped in Russian ports, partly also end up at the Baltic terminals again.
     
    https://finbi.ru/68420-rossiyskie-nefteprodukty-uhodyat-v-pribaltiku-po-vode.html

    Business as usual: sell ressources, get dollars and euros and send them to some Western Bank account. All this "decoupling from the hostile West " blathering by the RusFed Putinist mouthpieces is so full of shit. They couldn't even manage decoupling from the Baltic States pooches who bark and piss on Russian pants each time they can. Pathetic and hilarious at the same time.

    https://inkazan.ru/attachments/591f50c006e158ae6d764b56cd1054d3734aed5c/store/crop_and_fill/0/0/1280/800/700/393/95/db8376732b45d48da382371b3cd9f2cccc699c4e45506a0af0269d328b64/IDb3DC4K9bk%5B1%5D.jpg

    Replies: @Insomniac Resurrected, @Anatoly Karlin, @Passer by, @Svevlad

    Business as usual: sell ressources, get dollars and euros and send them to some Western Bank account. All this “decoupling from the hostile West ” blathering by the RusFed Putinist mouthpieces is so full of shit.

    Do you know anything about Importzameshcheniye?

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Insomniac Resurrected

    Sure , and ?

    What does it have to do with the fact the RusFed is still the Ressoursnaya Federatcya and that the capital outflows to the West continue unabated?

    Deflection much?

    Replies: @Insomniac Resurrected

  75. @Thorfinnsson
    @mal

    You shouldn't push this too far. There was a secular rise in unskilled unemployment in Britain from 1870 - 1913, which may have contributed to emigration (unsure of the skill level of emigrants), but overall unemployment was quite low. This is what you'd expect in an expanding economy with relatively little labor power, price floors, and regulation. And after the huge gold discoveries in South Africa, Alaska, and Siberia the money supply was expanding by the end of the 19th century.

    Mean unemployment for the entire period was 4.4%, and by 1913 unemployment was just 2.1%: https://sci-hub.st/https://doi.org/10.1017/S0022050702001031

    Automation creates sectoral unemployment, but it creates new demand by lowering prices for consumers and increasing the income of capital and skilled labor. The surplus income is then spent elsewhere, increasing output in those sectors.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @mal

    The Schumpeterian view that creative destruction leads to both destroyed jobs in obsolete sectors and new jobs in emerging sectors are true as far as economies are geared to production and consumption for both capital and labor – that’s the premise you’ve spotted.

    Once labor can be substituted in all forms (that is why AI is a break from previous technological improvements), only capital is needed to reproduce itself (remember the Matrix triology?). So, the “redundancy” is actually the result of the particular set of relations of production under AI technology – you’ll have techno-feudalism whatever way you approach the extensive use of AI because of that “redundancy” and resultant dependence on economic support of the chronically unemployed.

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
    @Yellowface Anon

    This is true, but this sort of technology does not exist. Once it does exist, we won't have techno-feudalism because feudalism is based upon supplying labor to a lord in exchange for his protection. We'll either have UBI or the actual elimination of the lower orders.

    As to whether or not such technology will exist, we don't know what the future holds. I'm an AI skeptic, but there's certainly no law of physics which says that most human labor can't go the way of the horse.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon

  76. @Bashibuzuk
    Words vs deeds:

    (Google translated from русский язык)

    Seaborne exports of gasoline and naphtha from Russian Baltic and Arctic ports to Baltic ports grew almost sixfold over several years to 2.86 million in 2020, of which 2.53 million tons were shipped from Ust-Luga, according to the terminal. Refinitiv Eikon. About half of the total supply of light distillates was delivered to the Latvian Ventspils, another 20% - to the Estonian port of Paldiski. The export sea flow of fuel oil from the Russian Baltic to Estonia in 2020 increased to 1.4 million tons from 0.45 million a year earlier and has already exceeded 0.77 million in less than five months of this year, according to Refinitiv. Belarus also joined the process of reorientation of oil product exports from the Baltic ports this year, having signed an agreement with Russia on the transit transshipment of fuel from its refineries in Ust-Luga and St. Petersburg. But Belarusian gasoline and fuel oil, transshipped in Russian ports, partly also end up at the Baltic terminals again.
     
    https://finbi.ru/68420-rossiyskie-nefteprodukty-uhodyat-v-pribaltiku-po-vode.html

    Business as usual: sell ressources, get dollars and euros and send them to some Western Bank account. All this "decoupling from the hostile West " blathering by the RusFed Putinist mouthpieces is so full of shit. They couldn't even manage decoupling from the Baltic States pooches who bark and piss on Russian pants each time they can. Pathetic and hilarious at the same time.

    https://inkazan.ru/attachments/591f50c006e158ae6d764b56cd1054d3734aed5c/store/crop_and_fill/0/0/1280/800/700/393/95/db8376732b45d48da382371b3cd9f2cccc699c4e45506a0af0269d328b64/IDb3DC4K9bk%5B1%5D.jpg

    Replies: @Insomniac Resurrected, @Anatoly Karlin, @Passer by, @Svevlad

    Business as usual: sell ressources, get dollars and euros and send them to some Western Bank account. All this “decoupling from the hostile West ” blathering by the RusFed Putinist mouthpieces is so full of shit.

    I realize that you wish for that to be true, but you should really stop peddling your fantasies as reality.

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/overview-of-russian-ports/

    • Thanks: TheTotallyAnonymous
    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Tolik, go and read the article (in a Russian media) that I linked for yourself. These imbeciles export from Ust-Luga to the Baltic States and the Balts and their EU masters make a killing of reselling the oil and its products afterwards. The RusFes imbeciles are seemingly incapable of sending their oil straight to Western Europe. And that's the way they do everything else.

    Через ж☆пу, как со времен Царя Гороха повелось так и продолжают...

    Replies: @Insomniac Resurrected, @Anatoly Karlin

  77. mal says:
    @Thorfinnsson
    @mal

    You shouldn't push this too far. There was a secular rise in unskilled unemployment in Britain from 1870 - 1913, which may have contributed to emigration (unsure of the skill level of emigrants), but overall unemployment was quite low. This is what you'd expect in an expanding economy with relatively little labor power, price floors, and regulation. And after the huge gold discoveries in South Africa, Alaska, and Siberia the money supply was expanding by the end of the 19th century.

    Mean unemployment for the entire period was 4.4%, and by 1913 unemployment was just 2.1%: https://sci-hub.st/https://doi.org/10.1017/S0022050702001031

    Automation creates sectoral unemployment, but it creates new demand by lowering prices for consumers and increasing the income of capital and skilled labor. The surplus income is then spent elsewhere, increasing output in those sectors.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @mal

    There was a secular rise in unskilled unemployment in Britain from 1870 – 1913, which may have contributed to emigration (unsure of the skill level of emigrants), but overall unemployment was quite low.

    Well sure.

    Many people were encouraged to leave the UK to settle overseas. Between 1853 and 1913, as many as 13 million British citizens left the country.

    https://lifeintheuktests.co.uk/study-guide/?chapter=3&section=4/

    For context, in 1900 UK population was around 40 million. Also, wasn’t 10% of London female population in Victorian England employed as prostitutes?

    To be fair, you are right – debt levels did drop in the UK by 1913. But losing millions of your fellow citizens in the process is the quickest way to lose your Empire and your country. We probably want a smarter way of doing things, and not the losing UK way.

    Automation creates sectoral unemployment, but it creates new demand by lowering prices for consumers and increasing the income of capital and skilled labor. The surplus income is then spent elsewhere, increasing output in those sectors.

    All that income comes from debt. Unemployed people have very little or no income, and they can’t create new demand. No new demand, no income for capital and skilled labor. So somebody has to step in and borrow money/create debt to provide income to the unemployed. If private sector fails to do so, this role falls on the state. Otherwise, all those automated industries fail and value of capital collapses. And we can’t allow that in a modern economy.

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
    @mal


    But losing millions of your fellow citizens in the process is the quickest way to lose your Empire and your country.
     
    They didn't really loose them in the short-term - much of them ended up in dominions like Canada & Australia (but sure, if you count them as separate countries and economies)

    All that income comes from debt. Unemployed people have very little or no income, and they can’t create new demand. No new demand, no income for capital and skilled labor. So somebody has to step in and borrow money/create debt to provide income to the unemployed. If private sector fails to do so, this role falls on the state. Otherwise, all those automated industries fail and value of capital collapses. And we can’t allow that in a modern economy.
     
    Stop picturing the coming economic model in terms of the old economy. Lots of economic institutions have to be abolished or driven out of formal parts of what will be left. The first thing that have to go is mass consumption (or the relevance of aggregate demand in macroeconomics)

    It might be better to think as a planner hovering above the Earth, seeing how many should be culled and how the freed-up resource can be used to feed the AIs and automated supply chains.

    Replies: @mal

    , @Thorfinnsson
    @mal

    Research about the composition of 19th century British emigrants would be helpful here. I honestly do not know their composition, but I would suspect that most British emigrants were not from the lowest rungs of society. In his eulogy for his late father, Peter Brimelow referred to the British as Europe's great emigrant race. He himself was one, as is fellow VDARE writer John Derbyshire. Neither were unemployable in Britain.

    Most of these British emigrants also moved to the Empire, which was part of an integrated economic system.

    As for the prostitutes of London, I'm not sure what the point is here. Prostitution is an ancient and ordinary trade which always flourishes in cities when it is not suppressed. The desperation women allegedly must experience before they sell their body is often much exaggerated.

    Moving onto the matter of debt, everyone's debt is someone else's asset. The state is the most creditworthy borrower, so this is not necessarily concerning. Debt becomes concerning when it rises so rapidly that the ability to service it comes into question.

  78. @utu
    @Dmitry

    I agree with your two comments on RT.


    "It operates as a kind of propaganda to try to make people in the West (USA, UK and Latin America), oppose their own governments."

    "Aside from cynicism in promoting anti-epidemic indicators, it seems that they believe the American audience that they filtered for, and then are content matching to, are a specifically anti-mask, anti-vax people."
     
    Cynicism to broaden the basket of deplorables is the name of their game.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @silviosilver

    Cynicism to broaden the basket of deplorables is the name of their game.

    Not really. RT is a mixed bag, but it mostly attacks America from the left. To really qualify as deplorable, you have to be challenging or questioning the anti-white status quo.

  79. @Insomniac Resurrected
    @Bashibuzuk


    Business as usual: sell ressources, get dollars and euros and send them to some Western Bank account. All this “decoupling from the hostile West ” blathering by the RusFed Putinist mouthpieces is so full of shit.
     
    Do you know anything about Importzameshcheniye?

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    Sure , and ?

    What does it have to do with the fact the RusFed is still the Ressoursnaya Federatcya and that the capital outflows to the West continue unabated?

    Deflection much?

    • Replies: @Insomniac Resurrected
    @Bashibuzuk


    What does it have to do with the fact the RusFed is still the Ressoursnaya Federatcya and that the capital outflows to the West continue unabated?
     
    Because the import substitution is a policy that is designed to make Russia self reliant. Also, Putin is doing a lot to stop the capital outflows.
  80. Bashibuzuk says:
    @Anatoly Karlin
    @Bashibuzuk


    Business as usual: sell ressources, get dollars and euros and send them to some Western Bank account. All this “decoupling from the hostile West ” blathering by the RusFed Putinist mouthpieces is so full of shit.
     
    I realize that you wish for that to be true, but you should really stop peddling your fantasies as reality.

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/overview-of-russian-ports/

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    Tolik, go and read the article (in a Russian media) that I linked for yourself. These imbeciles export from Ust-Luga to the Baltic States and the Balts and their EU masters make a killing of reselling the oil and its products afterwards. The RusFes imbeciles are seemingly incapable of sending their oil straight to Western Europe. And that’s the way they do everything else.

    Через ж☆пу, как со времен Царя Гороха повелось так и продолжают…

    • Replies: @Insomniac Resurrected
    @Bashibuzuk


    Tolik, go and read the article (in a Russian media) that I linked for yourself. These imbeciles export from Ust-Luga to the Baltic States and the Balts and their EU masters make a killing of reselling the oil and its products afterwards.
     
    Honestly, why the fuck not?

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    , @Anatoly Karlin
    @Bashibuzuk

    Why should I read a textwall about a topic that doesn't even strongly when port cargo traffic stats flatly disprove the narrative you've tried to promote?

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

  81. @Bashibuzuk
    Words vs deeds:

    (Google translated from русский язык)

    Seaborne exports of gasoline and naphtha from Russian Baltic and Arctic ports to Baltic ports grew almost sixfold over several years to 2.86 million in 2020, of which 2.53 million tons were shipped from Ust-Luga, according to the terminal. Refinitiv Eikon. About half of the total supply of light distillates was delivered to the Latvian Ventspils, another 20% - to the Estonian port of Paldiski. The export sea flow of fuel oil from the Russian Baltic to Estonia in 2020 increased to 1.4 million tons from 0.45 million a year earlier and has already exceeded 0.77 million in less than five months of this year, according to Refinitiv. Belarus also joined the process of reorientation of oil product exports from the Baltic ports this year, having signed an agreement with Russia on the transit transshipment of fuel from its refineries in Ust-Luga and St. Petersburg. But Belarusian gasoline and fuel oil, transshipped in Russian ports, partly also end up at the Baltic terminals again.
     
    https://finbi.ru/68420-rossiyskie-nefteprodukty-uhodyat-v-pribaltiku-po-vode.html

    Business as usual: sell ressources, get dollars and euros and send them to some Western Bank account. All this "decoupling from the hostile West " blathering by the RusFed Putinist mouthpieces is so full of shit. They couldn't even manage decoupling from the Baltic States pooches who bark and piss on Russian pants each time they can. Pathetic and hilarious at the same time.

    https://inkazan.ru/attachments/591f50c006e158ae6d764b56cd1054d3734aed5c/store/crop_and_fill/0/0/1280/800/700/393/95/db8376732b45d48da382371b3cd9f2cccc699c4e45506a0af0269d328b64/IDb3DC4K9bk%5B1%5D.jpg

    Replies: @Insomniac Resurrected, @Anatoly Karlin, @Passer by, @Svevlad

    All this “decoupling from the hostile West ” blathering

    To be fair, there is active dollar decoupling (dropping below 50 % of exports), decoupling from US treasuries, a decoupling on trade (Western share in trade is decreasing), diplomatic decoupling (US diplomatic missions are under crack down) + asian consulates overtook european consulates, NGO decoupling (yesterday 3 german NGOs were banned, plus Khodorkovsky entity dismantled), car decoupling (asian and russian cars dominate the roads), import substitution (production of plastics, farmaceutics, agribusiness, etc.), space decoupling (Russia to abandon ISS in 4 years and to work with China on Moon projects), tourism decoupling (top 3 destinations are now non-western), oil and gas export rebalancing towards Asia, a rebalancing of infrastructure towards Asia (BAM is being expanded) etc.

    • Agree: mal
    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
    @Passer by

    I hope Putin decouples from Davos - that is the most important act of decoupling he'll ever make.

  82. @Bashibuzuk
    @Insomniac Resurrected

    Sure , and ?

    What does it have to do with the fact the RusFed is still the Ressoursnaya Federatcya and that the capital outflows to the West continue unabated?

    Deflection much?

    Replies: @Insomniac Resurrected

    What does it have to do with the fact the RusFed is still the Ressoursnaya Federatcya and that the capital outflows to the West continue unabated?

    Because the import substitution is a policy that is designed to make Russia self reliant. Also, Putin is doing a lot to stop the capital outflows.

  83. @Bashibuzuk
    Words vs deeds:

    (Google translated from русский язык)

    Seaborne exports of gasoline and naphtha from Russian Baltic and Arctic ports to Baltic ports grew almost sixfold over several years to 2.86 million in 2020, of which 2.53 million tons were shipped from Ust-Luga, according to the terminal. Refinitiv Eikon. About half of the total supply of light distillates was delivered to the Latvian Ventspils, another 20% - to the Estonian port of Paldiski. The export sea flow of fuel oil from the Russian Baltic to Estonia in 2020 increased to 1.4 million tons from 0.45 million a year earlier and has already exceeded 0.77 million in less than five months of this year, according to Refinitiv. Belarus also joined the process of reorientation of oil product exports from the Baltic ports this year, having signed an agreement with Russia on the transit transshipment of fuel from its refineries in Ust-Luga and St. Petersburg. But Belarusian gasoline and fuel oil, transshipped in Russian ports, partly also end up at the Baltic terminals again.
     
    https://finbi.ru/68420-rossiyskie-nefteprodukty-uhodyat-v-pribaltiku-po-vode.html

    Business as usual: sell ressources, get dollars and euros and send them to some Western Bank account. All this "decoupling from the hostile West " blathering by the RusFed Putinist mouthpieces is so full of shit. They couldn't even manage decoupling from the Baltic States pooches who bark and piss on Russian pants each time they can. Pathetic and hilarious at the same time.

    https://inkazan.ru/attachments/591f50c006e158ae6d764b56cd1054d3734aed5c/store/crop_and_fill/0/0/1280/800/700/393/95/db8376732b45d48da382371b3cd9f2cccc699c4e45506a0af0269d328b64/IDb3DC4K9bk%5B1%5D.jpg

    Replies: @Insomniac Resurrected, @Anatoly Karlin, @Passer by, @Svevlad

    Just because oil and gas exports grew doesn’t mean nothing else grew more

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Svevlad

    I didn't write about anything else. I wrote about oil and petroleum products. That and gas is the stuff that matters in the business between RusFed and the West (and the hard currency transfers).

  84. @Bashibuzuk
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Tolik, go and read the article (in a Russian media) that I linked for yourself. These imbeciles export from Ust-Luga to the Baltic States and the Balts and their EU masters make a killing of reselling the oil and its products afterwards. The RusFes imbeciles are seemingly incapable of sending their oil straight to Western Europe. And that's the way they do everything else.

    Через ж☆пу, как со времен Царя Гороха повелось так и продолжают...

    Replies: @Insomniac Resurrected, @Anatoly Karlin

    Tolik, go and read the article (in a Russian media) that I linked for yourself. These imbeciles export from Ust-Luga to the Baltic States and the Balts and their EU masters make a killing of reselling the oil and its products afterwards.

    Honestly, why the fuck not?

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Insomniac Resurrected


    Honestly, why the fuck not?
     
    I agree that it makes economic sense. But the RusFed official patriots like to blather about "decoupling from the West". Of course, as the Russian saying goes: "П☆здеть не камушки ворочать".
  85. @Bashibuzuk
    @Jatt Aryaa

    Better use Nuristani and Kalash as the proxy for Aryans. Among the Tadjik, use Badakhshan people. Also, don't forget the Hephtalite factor. Folks on the frescoe below are Spenta Huna (White Huns):

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/39/07/ae/3907ae8efe479e39ad843dc165e868f0.jpg

    Might have influenced Gilgit-Baltistan folks.

    Finally, the close distance of the northern Hindustani to the Aryan proxies among the modern populations is easily explained by the fact that northern Hindustan has been invaded countless times over some three thousand years from exactly the region (Central Asia) that you consider as "Aryan ".

    Think Kanishka and his Indo-Scythians. It has been done so often that some of your northern Brahmin populations ended up 78% R1a. That's the level it reaches in Vologda...

    That is why northern Hindustani are often of Aryan stock. If your Y haplogroup is R1a then your ancestors subdued these swarthy Dravidians and for lack of a better choice slept with their rather ugly women. Tough luck, but it might have been worse if your ancestors ended up invading Lake Chad region as some Y haplogroup R1b Yamnaya offshoot population did.

    😉

    Replies: @Svevlad, @Jatt Aryaa

    As we learned recently, seems like the Aryans were more like militaristic merchants (think republic of Venice or Genoa, but on land) who basically assimilated the natives who were probably Papua tier diverse culturally, the language becoming lingua franca because the nomadic Aryans had a monopoly on transportation between tribes and city-states.

    Less subdued, more bought out.

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Svevlad


    Aryans were more like militaristic merchants (think republic of Venice or Genoa, but on land) who basically assimilated the
     
    Interestingly enough the Ugric Seima-Turbino and Akozino-Malar merchant warrior clans did the same thing on the northern forest rivers. And of course the Varangian Rus did the same in the Middle Ages.

    Replies: @Svevlad

  86. @Bashibuzuk
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Tolik, go and read the article (in a Russian media) that I linked for yourself. These imbeciles export from Ust-Luga to the Baltic States and the Balts and their EU masters make a killing of reselling the oil and its products afterwards. The RusFes imbeciles are seemingly incapable of sending their oil straight to Western Europe. And that's the way they do everything else.

    Через ж☆пу, как со времен Царя Гороха повелось так и продолжают...

    Replies: @Insomniac Resurrected, @Anatoly Karlin

    Why should I read a textwall about a topic that doesn’t even strongly when port cargo traffic stats flatly disprove the narrative you’ve tried to promote?

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Sure, don't read anything that goes against the RusFed Putinist narrative. If the facts don't fit, all the worse for the facts...

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin

  87. @Jatt Aryaa
    @Svevlad

    Idk I read it awhile back. Tbh, Brahmin & Anglo takes are both bad so I'll split the middle.

    I just finished lifting Idgaf tbh, Chieh will now say post physique; after cut nigga.

    I don't feel overhand row or regular curl in lat/bi but Yates Row hits both so subbing it.

    I also recently discovered wisdom of not doing Squat, Deadlift & Run on same day. :)

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

    Replies: @Svevlad

    Dunno what you really are talking about, I have no idea what this EIC is.

    • Replies: @Jatt Aryaa
    @Svevlad

    East India Company.

    Tbh, if Evangelism is American then even better its end is nigh.

    I was talking about reverse grip rows, if you don't lift then you're a woman.

    Thus, you shouldn't talk about politics or even be involved in literacy.

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

  88. @mal
    @Thorfinnsson


    There was a secular rise in unskilled unemployment in Britain from 1870 – 1913, which may have contributed to emigration (unsure of the skill level of emigrants), but overall unemployment was quite low.
     
    Well sure.

    Many people were encouraged to leave the UK to settle overseas. Between 1853 and 1913, as many as 13 million British citizens left the country.
     
    https://lifeintheuktests.co.uk/study-guide/?chapter=3&section=4/

    For context, in 1900 UK population was around 40 million. Also, wasn't 10% of London female population in Victorian England employed as prostitutes?

    To be fair, you are right - debt levels did drop in the UK by 1913. But losing millions of your fellow citizens in the process is the quickest way to lose your Empire and your country. We probably want a smarter way of doing things, and not the losing UK way.

    Automation creates sectoral unemployment, but it creates new demand by lowering prices for consumers and increasing the income of capital and skilled labor. The surplus income is then spent elsewhere, increasing output in those sectors.
     
    All that income comes from debt. Unemployed people have very little or no income, and they can't create new demand. No new demand, no income for capital and skilled labor. So somebody has to step in and borrow money/create debt to provide income to the unemployed. If private sector fails to do so, this role falls on the state. Otherwise, all those automated industries fail and value of capital collapses. And we can't allow that in a modern economy.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @Thorfinnsson

    But losing millions of your fellow citizens in the process is the quickest way to lose your Empire and your country.

    They didn’t really loose them in the short-term – much of them ended up in dominions like Canada & Australia (but sure, if you count them as separate countries and economies)

    All that income comes from debt. Unemployed people have very little or no income, and they can’t create new demand. No new demand, no income for capital and skilled labor. So somebody has to step in and borrow money/create debt to provide income to the unemployed. If private sector fails to do so, this role falls on the state. Otherwise, all those automated industries fail and value of capital collapses. And we can’t allow that in a modern economy.

    Stop picturing the coming economic model in terms of the old economy. Lots of economic institutions have to be abolished or driven out of formal parts of what will be left. The first thing that have to go is mass consumption (or the relevance of aggregate demand in macroeconomics)

    It might be better to think as a planner hovering above the Earth, seeing how many should be culled and how the freed-up resource can be used to feed the AIs and automated supply chains.

    • Agree: Bashibuzuk
    • Replies: @mal
    @Yellowface Anon


    They didn’t really loose them in the short-term – much of them ended up in dominions like Canada & Australia (but sure, if you count them as separate countries and economies)
     
    But they did lose them in the end. As somebody from USSR, i can empathize.

    Australians have more in common with kangaroos and Canadians with geese than either of those share anything with English.


    Stop picturing the coming economic model in terms of the old economy. Lots of economic institutions have to be abolished or driven out of formal parts of what will be left.
     
    That is true.


    The first thing that have to go is mass consumption (or the relevance of aggregate demand in macroeconomics)
     
    Well, somebody will have to do all the consuming. Either Africa develops credit system where they too can buy $50,000 pick up truck on credit "for one low monthly payment" (it really doesn't take high IQ to swipe a credit card), or Africa will have to be imported to countries where credit system already exists.

    Those are the two options that we have. Importing Africa is already in the test phase.

    It might be better to think as a planner hovering above the Earth, seeing how many should be culled and how the freed-up resource can be used to feed the AIs and automated supply chains.
     
    Why should we cull anybody? We don't have shortage of resources (our biggest fear is oil prices going negative), and those automated supply chains will need as many customers as they can get.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon

  89. @Dmitry
    @Dmitry

    RT site is promoting at the top of their pages "Covid Freedom Index" (which awards currently Texas as the winner, due to the low level of anti-epidemic restrictions there). https://www.rt.com/covid_freedom_index/

    Aside from cynicism in promoting anti-epidemic indicators, it seems that they believe the American audience that they filtered for, and then are content matching to, are a specifically anti-mask, anti-vax people.

    If there was some oversight to assess job performance of managers relative to funding, one of the first questions I would ask - why does it seem that you are likely selecting for demographics in West that might have lower socioeconomic power than an average media audience?

    If content selects for demographics with relatively low socioeconomic power, then it can contradict raison d'être for their funding: to increase leverage for Moscow in international relations.

    For increasing leverage per audience ceteris paribus, RT should focus on selecting for audiences that have higher, or at least average, socioeconomic power in their societies.

    Audiences with lower socioeconomic power, will also have less power to influence international relations - and the purpose for funding RT is to increase leverage with the countries where the media is delivered.

    -

    American media spaces with closer to half of audience having some socioeconomic power, are Economist, NPR and New Yorker. Higher levels of power, are among the audience of more prestigious and educated style of media presentation.

    (Aside from Sharapova, it's not impossible to me to imagine that the main 21st century softpower in the West is still upon 19th century Russian classics and ballet).
    https://i.imgur.com/QskxNNn.jpg

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @utu, @Passer by

    Aside from cynicism in promoting anti-epidemic indicators, it seems that they believe the American audience that they filtered for, and then are content matching to, are a specifically anti-mask, anti-vax people.

    This is RT.

    Meanwhile Sputnik is attacking the US from the Left. Some attack it from the right (RT), some attack it from the left (Sputnik).

    https://sputniknews.com/radio_by_any_means/202105281083012169-political-theorist-explains-why-liberation-demands-collective-struggle/

    https://sputniknews.com/radio_by_any_means/202105251082995673-gop-rep-says-vax-like-holocaust-as-antisemitism-crisis-targets-arabs/

    • Replies: @Passer by
    @Passer by

    Note the attacks on US anti-vaxers by Sputnik in the second article. The opposite of RT. Funny stuff.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon

  90. @Passer by
    @Bashibuzuk


    All this “decoupling from the hostile West ” blathering
     
    To be fair, there is active dollar decoupling (dropping below 50 % of exports), decoupling from US treasuries, a decoupling on trade (Western share in trade is decreasing), diplomatic decoupling (US diplomatic missions are under crack down) + asian consulates overtook european consulates, NGO decoupling (yesterday 3 german NGOs were banned, plus Khodorkovsky entity dismantled), car decoupling (asian and russian cars dominate the roads), import substitution (production of plastics, farmaceutics, agribusiness, etc.), space decoupling (Russia to abandon ISS in 4 years and to work with China on Moon projects), tourism decoupling (top 3 destinations are now non-western), oil and gas export rebalancing towards Asia, a rebalancing of infrastructure towards Asia (BAM is being expanded) etc.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon

    I hope Putin decouples from Davos – that is the most important act of decoupling he’ll ever make.

    • Agree: Marshal Marlow
  91. @Passer by
    @Dmitry


    Aside from cynicism in promoting anti-epidemic indicators, it seems that they believe the American audience that they filtered for, and then are content matching to, are a specifically anti-mask, anti-vax people.
     
    This is RT.

    Meanwhile Sputnik is attacking the US from the Left. Some attack it from the right (RT), some attack it from the left (Sputnik).

    https://sputniknews.com/radio_by_any_means/202105281083012169-political-theorist-explains-why-liberation-demands-collective-struggle/

    https://sputniknews.com/radio_by_any_means/202105251082995673-gop-rep-says-vax-like-holocaust-as-antisemitism-crisis-targets-arabs/

    Replies: @Passer by

    Note the attacks on US anti-vaxers by Sputnik in the second article. The opposite of RT. Funny stuff.

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
    @Passer by

    Sputnik cares for Russia's vaccine business. Not Big Pharma, but still.

    Replies: @Passer by

  92. @Yevardian
    @Lokke


    It’s a disgrace that so many Russian nationalists are still deriding Solzhenitsyn as a “traitor”. This kind of mentality is the Russian equivalent of Boomerconism.
     
    What's wrong with calling a spade a spade?

    Replies: @TheTotallyAnonymous

    It’s amazing just how unsympathetic you come off (if Armenians of your type are a majority, no wonder everything that’s wrong with Armenia right now is as it is).

    < has no respect for true ethnic Russian nationhood and still remembers the USSR affectionately, even though it gave away Armenian lands to Azerbaijan for the sake of geopolitical favors to Turkey that didn't even pay off for the USSR.
    < probably has this attitude because as Armenoid diaspora doesn't feel secure enough if his host nation hasn't been sufficiently cucked of its nationhood to his liking.
    < shits on Balkan nations (with Serbs implicitly in mind) for being "defeated" and "losing wars" even though Armenia just got crushed by Azerbaijan in late 2020 (despite facing better odds than Serbs did in the 1990's), but above all by the atrociously bad politics of its incompetent tabloid journalist leader (whose own apathy was complicit in his rise).
    < has a severe inferiority complex about his own nation and servile peasant mentality, so frequently shits on other random nations to cope and compensate.
    < exudes pettiness and cynicism beyond belief
    < probably some other things as well

    What’s wrong with calling a spade a spade?

    It’s so pointless and dumb to get “outraged” about how Solzhenitsyn was a traitor to a now non-existent entity that didn’t have the best interests of its ethnic Russian majority in mind. Organic Russian nation > USSR.

  93. @Anatoly Karlin
    @Bashibuzuk

    Why should I read a textwall about a topic that doesn't even strongly when port cargo traffic stats flatly disprove the narrative you've tried to promote?

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    Sure, don’t read anything that goes against the RusFed Putinist narrative. If the facts don’t fit, all the worse for the facts…

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
    @Bashibuzuk

    Here is a fact for you:

    https://morproekt.ru/images/content/data/store/images/transit-stimulus_01.jpeg

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

  94. @Bashibuzuk
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Sure, don't read anything that goes against the RusFed Putinist narrative. If the facts don't fit, all the worse for the facts...

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin

    Here is a fact for you:

    • Thanks: TheTotallyAnonymous
    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Anatoly Karlin

    The article I linked was about oil and petroleum products. But you didn't read it, so you wouldn't know that the transit of these through Baltic States' ports increased despite all the propaganda.

    BTW how many tens of billion $ did RusFed clowns send to the Western banks and tax havens in 2020?

    Any statistics about that?

    And did Sberbank open any branches in Crimea yet ?

    https://kazanreporter.ru/storage/web/source/images/uploads/1/0zC89HZhLoe00R25e4b2TjXSn4drfk3w.jpg

    🙂

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin

  95. @Passer by
    @Passer by

    Note the attacks on US anti-vaxers by Sputnik in the second article. The opposite of RT. Funny stuff.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon

    Sputnik cares for Russia’s vaccine business. Not Big Pharma, but still.

    • Replies: @Passer by
    @Yellowface Anon

    No, you don't get it. They attack GOP and US anti-vaxxers, doing the opposite of RT. Sputnik Vac will never be sold in the US. What you see is different russian state media playing different audiences in the West. Sputnik works with the Left - see the pro-palestine articles, the anti-racism articles, pro-BLM stuff, etc.

  96. AP says:
    @Insomniac Resurrected
    I am actually writing a compendium of astrological phenomena and their related expressions in life on Earth. I mostly focus on the precession of the equinoxes and the transits of planets. I have related the Neptune-Pluto cycle to the precession, and we are in what I call a transitional age. That is, in few hundred years, the vernal equinox will pass into sidereal Aquarius (0 Aries being defined as 15 degrees from Pleiades), and the current Neptune-Pluto cycle, the beginning of which is in 1890s and the end will be in the Aeon of Aquarius.

    Last transitional age actually occurred around the fall of the Roman Republic, and lasted literally until the fall of Rome. And what have seen back then? The decline of the old religions and the rapid replacement of thereof. Christianity then came to dominate the West for 2000 years, now it is in decline, and likely to be replaced with a new orthodoxy. Actually, to keep it less Eurocentric, religions tend to change and morph with the precession. The Jews were made a diaspora. Buddhism switched from being Indian, to being East Asian. Christianity's antagonist Islam appeared when the Uranus-Neptune conjunction was in opposition to the equinox in Pisces. The fish, a traditional Christian symbol with astrological connotations.

    I am actually just scraping the surface of this topic and that is because I am a historian, who discovered astrology in university, and was only able to read up on it after my studies. I have a blog where I discuss some of the cycles and associated theories. Some of the stuff I am more proud than the other:

    Astrological Rereading of Hesiod
    https://leosmundaneastrology.blogspot.com/2019/12/rulers-of-aeons.html

    Technological Revolutions and the cycle of Uranus-Pluto
    https://leosmundaneastrology.blogspot.com/2020/12/three-conjunctions-and-three-inventions.html

    I was heavily stoned when I wrote this one:
    https://leosmundaneastrology.blogspot.com/2020/03/a-millennialist-rant-about-age-of.html

    America's Uranus return is coming
    https://leosmundaneastrology.blogspot.com/2019/12/americas-uranus-return-2029.html

    I also suggest Barbault's index...
    https://time-price-research-astrofin.blogspot.com/2015/10/barbaults-cyclic-index-and-ganeaus.html

    Replies: @AP

    This project of yours is more realistic than your opinions of Ukraine. Good luck to you on this. My wife has a friend in Moscow, who graduated with a degree in one of the hard sciences from MGU, and who works as a successful professional astrologist. This person has some connected clients. I am not a believer but who knows, there may be something to it.

    [MORE]

    Like other elite Soviet families, my wife’s parents consulted a good astrologist to do her chart when she was a kid. The astrologist predicted that she would move abroad to the West -a bold claim in the late Brezhnev era – correctly predicted her future husband’s astrological sign, and the number of children she would have.

    • Replies: @Insomniac Resurrected
    @AP


    This project of yours is more realistic than your opinions of Ukraine.
     
    My only opinion of Ukraine is that it is exploited by oligarchs, has a bad economy, would do better with Russia.

    The West pretty much just abuses the gullibility and servility of the Ukrainian elite. Russia should simply relieve the regime in Kiev of its own misery.
    , @Rattus Norwegius
    @AP

    Maybe an example of a self fulfilling prophecy?

    Replies: @AP

  97. @Yellowface Anon
    @Marshal Marlow

    They aren't avoiding the "swamp-your-own-place-with-barbarians" trap and had already decades of state-mandated dysgenics - see African immigrant labor in Guangzhou. But it's still early to change a lot of things.

    Replies: @Malenfant

    Oh come on. It’s not that bad. There are about 10-20k Africans in Guangzhou. Let’s say that there are 15k Africans there now — which, after Covid, might if anything be an over-estimate. The population of Guangzhou is easily 15M. Thus the African resident population is 0.1% of the city’s population.

    https://africansinchina.net/how-many-africans-are-there-in-guangzhou/

    Besides, many of those Africans are traders and businessmen with active ties to African nations. Much of the time, they’re agents for African importers and distribution firms. “Abdel! It’s good that you’re still in Guangzhou. Listen, I need you to head down to this port and inspect a shipment of jeans that is soon going to be sealed in a container and shipped by sea to Lagos.

    As black people go, that’s about as good as it gets.

    Things are actually far worse in Japan, where ever other Family-Mart employee is Burmese, Filipino, or Iranian — and where every street corner hustler in Roppongi or Shinjuku is, mysteriously, black. Those niggas ain’t working for distribution firms during the day.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
    @Malenfant


    Oh come on. It’s not that bad.
     
    Hmm, sounds eerily like the opinion of Londoners circa 1948.

    Immigration apologetics faggotry (even when it doesn't perceive itself as such) is as certain as death and taxes.

    Replies: @Malenfant

  98. @Anatoly Karlin
    @The Big Red Scary


    An American acquaintance who has lived in Russia for over twenty years and is also married to a Russian woman visited Crimea 15 years ago and said it was a ‘Sovok shithole’, so it must have improved at some point. As the parts of Ukraine with which I’m familiar have also improved over that same period, I’m guessing that both Ukraine and Russia are to thank for these improvements.
     
    Crimea was famously derelict even by Ukrainian standards prior to 2014, so the improvement is 100% on account of Russia.

    One visual example of "before and after":

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbzYfAR779A&ab_channel=AlenaBardovskaya

    Replies: @AP

    Obviously Russian spent a lot in Crimea, but one could also find roads in Ukraine that look a lot better now than they did in 2013.

  99. @Yellowface Anon
    @Passer by

    Sputnik cares for Russia's vaccine business. Not Big Pharma, but still.

    Replies: @Passer by

    No, you don’t get it. They attack GOP and US anti-vaxxers, doing the opposite of RT. Sputnik Vac will never be sold in the US. What you see is different russian state media playing different audiences in the West. Sputnik works with the Left – see the pro-palestine articles, the anti-racism articles, pro-BLM stuff, etc.

  100. Bashibuzuk says:
    @Anatoly Karlin
    @Bashibuzuk

    Here is a fact for you:

    https://morproekt.ru/images/content/data/store/images/transit-stimulus_01.jpeg

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    The article I linked was about oil and petroleum products. But you didn’t read it, so you wouldn’t know that the transit of these through Baltic States’ ports increased despite all the propaganda.

    BTW how many tens of billion $ did RusFed clowns send to the Western banks and tax havens in 2020?

    Any statistics about that?

    And did Sberbank open any branches in Crimea yet ?

    🙂

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
    @Bashibuzuk

    Who cares. The point is, Russian ports (include in the Baltics) are being expanded, and by extension traffic is being taken away from sprat ports. The statistics I have posted show this unambiguously.

    But refuted on your initial point, you shift the goalposts, as I have time to play your games.

    I hope you realize you're no different (looking at it from the aside) than any number of liberast drones sitting on State Department grants, down to the love for Lozhkin's Russophobic cartoons.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

  101. If you have actually lived in the tropics or even someplace like Hong Kong in the summer you would prefer a little ice age or 1970s climate to more global warming.

  102. @The Big Red Scary
    @melanf

    What does Plague Doctor have to do with Navalny? (I haven’t read the comics or seen the film.)

    Replies: @melanf

    What does Plague Doctor have to do with Navalny? (I haven’t read the comics or seen the film.)

    In my opinion, the Plague Doctor has nothing in common with Navalny (the penguin man resembles Navalny much more). In the comics, the plague doctor was copied from Durov, but in the film it’s just an image of a man who went mad on the basis of the struggle for justice.

    But Navalny’s supporters waged a hysterical campaign on social media against the film. The result? The main viewers (and fans) of the film were youngsters from Moscow and St. Petersburg. They don’t give a damn about Navalny

  103. mal says:
    @Yellowface Anon
    @mal


    But losing millions of your fellow citizens in the process is the quickest way to lose your Empire and your country.
     
    They didn't really loose them in the short-term - much of them ended up in dominions like Canada & Australia (but sure, if you count them as separate countries and economies)

    All that income comes from debt. Unemployed people have very little or no income, and they can’t create new demand. No new demand, no income for capital and skilled labor. So somebody has to step in and borrow money/create debt to provide income to the unemployed. If private sector fails to do so, this role falls on the state. Otherwise, all those automated industries fail and value of capital collapses. And we can’t allow that in a modern economy.
     
    Stop picturing the coming economic model in terms of the old economy. Lots of economic institutions have to be abolished or driven out of formal parts of what will be left. The first thing that have to go is mass consumption (or the relevance of aggregate demand in macroeconomics)

    It might be better to think as a planner hovering above the Earth, seeing how many should be culled and how the freed-up resource can be used to feed the AIs and automated supply chains.

    Replies: @mal

    They didn’t really loose them in the short-term – much of them ended up in dominions like Canada & Australia (but sure, if you count them as separate countries and economies)

    But they did lose them in the end. As somebody from USSR, i can empathize.

    Australians have more in common with kangaroos and Canadians with geese than either of those share anything with English.

    Stop picturing the coming economic model in terms of the old economy. Lots of economic institutions have to be abolished or driven out of formal parts of what will be left.

    That is true.

    The first thing that have to go is mass consumption (or the relevance of aggregate demand in macroeconomics)

    Well, somebody will have to do all the consuming. Either Africa develops credit system where they too can buy $50,000 pick up truck on credit “for one low monthly payment” (it really doesn’t take high IQ to swipe a credit card), or Africa will have to be imported to countries where credit system already exists.

    Those are the two options that we have. Importing Africa is already in the test phase.

    It might be better to think as a planner hovering above the Earth, seeing how many should be culled and how the freed-up resource can be used to feed the AIs and automated supply chains.

    Why should we cull anybody? We don’t have shortage of resources (our biggest fear is oil prices going negative), and those automated supply chains will need as many customers as they can get.

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
    @mal


    Why should we cull anybody? We don’t have shortage of resources (our biggest fear is oil prices going negative), and those automated supply chains will need as many customers as they can get.
     
    Right! We don't need to, the Earth's resources and current level of technological progress can support the current population and the some without the economy bumping into Malthusian crises, but it is the agenda of the elite, the US ones especially, since their goal is to optimize their own chances of survival and less "useless eaters" = less power outside those they hold.
  104. @Malenfant
    @Yellowface Anon

    Oh come on. It's not that bad. There are about 10-20k Africans in Guangzhou. Let's say that there are 15k Africans there now -- which, after Covid, might if anything be an over-estimate. The population of Guangzhou is easily 15M. Thus the African resident population is 0.1% of the city's population.

    https://africansinchina.net/how-many-africans-are-there-in-guangzhou/

    Besides, many of those Africans are traders and businessmen with active ties to African nations. Much of the time, they're agents for African importers and distribution firms. "Abdel! It's good that you're still in Guangzhou. Listen, I need you to head down to this port and inspect a shipment of jeans that is soon going to be sealed in a container and shipped by sea to Lagos."

    As black people go, that's about as good as it gets.

    Things are actually far worse in Japan, where ever other Family-Mart employee is Burmese, Filipino, or Iranian -- and where every street corner hustler in Roppongi or Shinjuku is, mysteriously, black. Those niggas ain't working for distribution firms during the day.

    Replies: @silviosilver

    Oh come on. It’s not that bad.

    Hmm, sounds eerily like the opinion of Londoners circa 1948.

    Immigration apologetics faggotry (even when it doesn’t perceive itself as such) is as certain as death and taxes.

    • Replies: @Malenfant
    @silviosilver


    Hmm, sounds eerily like the opinion of Londoners circa 1948.

     

    The African population of Guangzhou is actually going down, and is sharply down in comparison to 10 years ago. Things are proceeding in a really quite favorable direction. Besides, the Africans currently in Guangzhou have, more often than not, a credible reason for living in China, and they're usually temporary residents -- not permanent immigrants.

    If there's one thing you can't fault China for, it's immigration policy. To say that China is "not avoiding" the “swamp-your-own-place-with-barbarians trap" is simply an absurdity.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

  105. @silviosilver
    @Malenfant


    Oh come on. It’s not that bad.
     
    Hmm, sounds eerily like the opinion of Londoners circa 1948.

    Immigration apologetics faggotry (even when it doesn't perceive itself as such) is as certain as death and taxes.

    Replies: @Malenfant

    Hmm, sounds eerily like the opinion of Londoners circa 1948.

    The African population of Guangzhou is actually going down, and is sharply down in comparison to 10 years ago. Things are proceeding in a really quite favorable direction. Besides, the Africans currently in Guangzhou have, more often than not, a credible reason for living in China, and they’re usually temporary residents — not permanent immigrants.

    If there’s one thing you can’t fault China for, it’s immigration policy. To say that China is “not avoiding” the “swamp-your-own-place-with-barbarians trap” is simply an absurdity.

    • Agree: Triteleia Laxa
    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
    @Malenfant

    China is still far from a developed country. Its wage suppressing migration can be internal. This means that most immigrants are import/export businessmen. I wonder if it will change as the economic incentives for the richest Chinese change.

  106. @Svevlad
    @Bashibuzuk

    Just because oil and gas exports grew doesn't mean nothing else grew more

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    I didn’t write about anything else. I wrote about oil and petroleum products. That and gas is the stuff that matters in the business between RusFed and the West (and the hard currency transfers).

  107. @Insomniac Resurrected
    @Bashibuzuk


    Tolik, go and read the article (in a Russian media) that I linked for yourself. These imbeciles export from Ust-Luga to the Baltic States and the Balts and their EU masters make a killing of reselling the oil and its products afterwards.
     
    Honestly, why the fuck not?

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    Honestly, why the fuck not?

    I agree that it makes economic sense. But the RusFed official patriots like to blather about “decoupling from the West”. Of course, as the Russian saying goes: “П☆здеть не камушки ворочать”.

  108. Bashibuzuk says:
    @Svevlad
    @Bashibuzuk

    As we learned recently, seems like the Aryans were more like militaristic merchants (think republic of Venice or Genoa, but on land) who basically assimilated the natives who were probably Papua tier diverse culturally, the language becoming lingua franca because the nomadic Aryans had a monopoly on transportation between tribes and city-states.

    Less subdued, more bought out.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    Aryans were more like militaristic merchants (think republic of Venice or Genoa, but on land) who basically assimilated the

    Interestingly enough the Ugric Seima-Turbino and Akozino-Malar merchant warrior clans did the same thing on the northern forest rivers. And of course the Varangian Rus did the same in the Middle Ages.

    • Replies: @Svevlad
    @Bashibuzuk

    Well, it makes much more sense. Such pastoral nomadic entities are extremely suited to do exactly that, and will even prefer to do so, even though they're capable of ludicrous feats of mass slaughter. More money, and less casualties.

    The violence of the Indo-European invasions of Europe are probably a result of the natives being extremely antagonistic (despite the le based forest goon primitive mythopoetic neopagan neo-yamnaya larper masturbatory fantasies that the natives were a bunch of peacenik hippies)

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

  109. @Bashibuzuk
    @Svevlad


    Aryans were more like militaristic merchants (think republic of Venice or Genoa, but on land) who basically assimilated the
     
    Interestingly enough the Ugric Seima-Turbino and Akozino-Malar merchant warrior clans did the same thing on the northern forest rivers. And of course the Varangian Rus did the same in the Middle Ages.

    Replies: @Svevlad

    Well, it makes much more sense. Such pastoral nomadic entities are extremely suited to do exactly that, and will even prefer to do so, even though they’re capable of ludicrous feats of mass slaughter. More money, and less casualties.

    The violence of the Indo-European invasions of Europe are probably a result of the natives being extremely antagonistic (despite the le based forest goon primitive mythopoetic neopagan neo-yamnaya larper masturbatory fantasies that the natives were a bunch of peacenik hippies)

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Svevlad


    The violence of the Indo-European invasions of Europe
     
    Yamnaya did not invade, Bell Beaker did. Neither were Indo-European.

    natives were a bunch of peacenik hippies
     
    Old Europe is different things to different people. The concluding period of the Linear Band Ceramics (LBC) culture coincided with massive manslaughter and cannibalism.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herxheim_(archaeological_site)

    Later Megalithic Culture people were probably more sane as a societal organization. But given that they prevailed against the LBC homicidal cannibal psychopaths and replaced them in the Western part of Europe, the Megalithic Culture folks were probably not peaceful tree-huggers. Same thing for the Corded Ware who replaced the LBC in the Central and Eastern Europe.

    Replies: @Svevlad

  110. @AP
    @Insomniac Resurrected

    This project of yours is more realistic than your opinions of Ukraine. Good luck to you on this. My wife has a friend in Moscow, who graduated with a degree in one of the hard sciences from MGU, and who works as a successful professional astrologist. This person has some connected clients. I am not a believer but who knows, there may be something to it.



    Like other elite Soviet families, my wife’s parents consulted a good astrologist to do her chart when she was a kid. The astrologist predicted that she would move abroad to the West -a bold claim in the late Brezhnev era - correctly predicted her future husband’s astrological sign, and the number of children she would have.

    Replies: @Insomniac Resurrected, @Rattus Norwegius

    This project of yours is more realistic than your opinions of Ukraine.

    My only opinion of Ukraine is that it is exploited by oligarchs, has a bad economy, would do better with Russia.

    The West pretty much just abuses the gullibility and servility of the Ukrainian elite. Russia should simply relieve the regime in Kiev of its own misery.

  111. Bashibuzuk says:

    https://theupheaval.substack.com/p/are-we-in-a-500-year-religious-revolution

    Excellent read. It has been predicted that Christianity would end up with the Reign of the Antichrist. It was its expected dialectic end result from the very beginning. While old pagan spirituality went in circles through Eons without beginning and end, the Abrahamic Creed (following in the Zoroastrian footsteps) envisioned the End of Times and a transcendent reconstruction of Reality. This Zeitgeist ended up completely f☆cking up the minds of the Western middle class and now their kids are fulfilling the long announced prophecies.

    Congratulations to everyone involved!

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
    @Bashibuzuk

    I was going to post a comment on the Book of Revelations and you did it way better than me - but I see somewhere else where the rot came from.

    The End Times as in the Book of Revelations was actually referring to immediate repression - the Roman one, and the Roman decline prophesized in the book played out neatly to what social predictions woven into the narrative of the book. I'd actually say, since the West still runs on much of the Roman cultural "infrastructure" in addition to an increasingly estranged Abrahamic religious zeal (just look at the American Empire!), a similar period of imperial prosperity ends up in similar decline with strife, famine, pestilence and "wild beasts" (metaphorical disastrous ones this time) - the prophecies are being fulfilled again, this time with conscious or unconscious (COVID vaccine passports as the "Mark of the Beast") hindsight of the book.

    Human nature, especially what is filtered thru the mode of existence developing from Greco-Roman tradition, hasn't really changed, and it's set to fall into the same trap of hubris again.

    Replies: @Insomniac Resurrected

  112. Bashibuzuk says:
    @Svevlad
    @Bashibuzuk

    Well, it makes much more sense. Such pastoral nomadic entities are extremely suited to do exactly that, and will even prefer to do so, even though they're capable of ludicrous feats of mass slaughter. More money, and less casualties.

    The violence of the Indo-European invasions of Europe are probably a result of the natives being extremely antagonistic (despite the le based forest goon primitive mythopoetic neopagan neo-yamnaya larper masturbatory fantasies that the natives were a bunch of peacenik hippies)

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    The violence of the Indo-European invasions of Europe

    Yamnaya did not invade, Bell Beaker did. Neither were Indo-European.

    natives were a bunch of peacenik hippies

    Old Europe is different things to different people. The concluding period of the Linear Band Ceramics (LBC) culture coincided with massive manslaughter and cannibalism.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herxheim_(archaeological_site)

    Later Megalithic Culture people were probably more sane as a societal organization. But given that they prevailed against the LBC homicidal cannibal psychopaths and replaced them in the Western part of Europe, the Megalithic Culture folks were probably not peaceful tree-huggers. Same thing for the Corded Ware who replaced the LBC in the Central and Eastern Europe.

    • Replies: @Svevlad
    @Bashibuzuk

    So, which ones were the Indo-Europeans then?

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

  113. @Jatt Aryaa
    @Kent Nationalist

    Imagine being the Aryans who subjugated India & Europe, and not an Anglo christcuck.

    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/781981619073318943/846343183499919370/main-qimg-64fe04b0a7710527ff80ff5957d531c6.png

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @DNS, @Max Payne

    Jattoid delusions.

    • Replies: @Jatt Aryaa
    @DNS

    I'm allowed to troll white people by debating which type of brown I am, Dindu.

    It makes 0 theological difference since Khalsa Panth is still highest.

    Btw, all medieval Hindu sources say Arya = Kesh & Mona or cut hair = Melech or Dasyu

    So which is it, Bhenchod?

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

  114. Navalny’s Limited Popularity

    Re: https://www.rt.com/russia/525073-navalny-russians-disapproval-poll/

    Some not for Mark Galeotti thoughts –

    The Western establishment’s promoting of Alexey Navalny somewhat reminds me of the Soviet propping of Gus Hall and Angela Davis. On that comparison, recall John Brennan saying that he voted for Hall, as well as Brennan hoping that Navalny will someday become Russian president.

  115. @Bashibuzuk
    @Anatoly Karlin

    The article I linked was about oil and petroleum products. But you didn't read it, so you wouldn't know that the transit of these through Baltic States' ports increased despite all the propaganda.

    BTW how many tens of billion $ did RusFed clowns send to the Western banks and tax havens in 2020?

    Any statistics about that?

    And did Sberbank open any branches in Crimea yet ?

    https://kazanreporter.ru/storage/web/source/images/uploads/1/0zC89HZhLoe00R25e4b2TjXSn4drfk3w.jpg

    🙂

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin

    Who cares. The point is, Russian ports (include in the Baltics) are being expanded, and by extension traffic is being taken away from sprat ports. The statistics I have posted show this unambiguously.

    But refuted on your initial point, you shift the goalposts, as I have time to play your games.

    I hope you realize you’re no different (looking at it from the aside) than any number of liberast drones sitting on State Department grants, down to the love for Lozhkin’s Russophobic cartoons.

    • LOL: Bashibuzuk
    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Anatoly Karlin


    Lozhkin’s Russophobic cartoons.
     
    Lozhkin is one of the greatest Russian patriots alive and any true Russian would instantly understand this.

    https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4885/44686256950_b0057650b0_o.jpg

    😉
  116. @Anatoly Karlin
    @Bashibuzuk

    Who cares. The point is, Russian ports (include in the Baltics) are being expanded, and by extension traffic is being taken away from sprat ports. The statistics I have posted show this unambiguously.

    But refuted on your initial point, you shift the goalposts, as I have time to play your games.

    I hope you realize you're no different (looking at it from the aside) than any number of liberast drones sitting on State Department grants, down to the love for Lozhkin's Russophobic cartoons.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    Lozhkin’s Russophobic cartoons.

    Lozhkin is one of the greatest Russian patriots alive and any true Russian would instantly understand this.

    😉

  117. @Malenfant
    @silviosilver


    Hmm, sounds eerily like the opinion of Londoners circa 1948.

     

    The African population of Guangzhou is actually going down, and is sharply down in comparison to 10 years ago. Things are proceeding in a really quite favorable direction. Besides, the Africans currently in Guangzhou have, more often than not, a credible reason for living in China, and they're usually temporary residents -- not permanent immigrants.

    If there's one thing you can't fault China for, it's immigration policy. To say that China is "not avoiding" the “swamp-your-own-place-with-barbarians trap" is simply an absurdity.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    China is still far from a developed country. Its wage suppressing migration can be internal. This means that most immigrants are import/export businessmen. I wonder if it will change as the economic incentives for the richest Chinese change.

    • Agree: Yellowface Anon
  118. This is what I fear – elite productive immigration turning into unproductive flooding once the demographics fortunes of the host population declines.

  119. @mal
    @Yellowface Anon


    They didn’t really loose them in the short-term – much of them ended up in dominions like Canada & Australia (but sure, if you count them as separate countries and economies)
     
    But they did lose them in the end. As somebody from USSR, i can empathize.

    Australians have more in common with kangaroos and Canadians with geese than either of those share anything with English.


    Stop picturing the coming economic model in terms of the old economy. Lots of economic institutions have to be abolished or driven out of formal parts of what will be left.
     
    That is true.


    The first thing that have to go is mass consumption (or the relevance of aggregate demand in macroeconomics)
     
    Well, somebody will have to do all the consuming. Either Africa develops credit system where they too can buy $50,000 pick up truck on credit "for one low monthly payment" (it really doesn't take high IQ to swipe a credit card), or Africa will have to be imported to countries where credit system already exists.

    Those are the two options that we have. Importing Africa is already in the test phase.

    It might be better to think as a planner hovering above the Earth, seeing how many should be culled and how the freed-up resource can be used to feed the AIs and automated supply chains.
     
    Why should we cull anybody? We don't have shortage of resources (our biggest fear is oil prices going negative), and those automated supply chains will need as many customers as they can get.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon

    Why should we cull anybody? We don’t have shortage of resources (our biggest fear is oil prices going negative), and those automated supply chains will need as many customers as they can get.

    Right! We don’t need to, the Earth’s resources and current level of technological progress can support the current population and the some without the economy bumping into Malthusian crises, but it is the agenda of the elite, the US ones especially, since their goal is to optimize their own chances of survival and less “useless eaters” = less power outside those they hold.

  120. @Jatt Aryaa
    @Kent Nationalist

    Imagine being the Aryans who subjugated India & Europe, and not an Anglo christcuck.

    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/781981619073318943/846343183499919370/main-qimg-64fe04b0a7710527ff80ff5957d531c6.png

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @DNS, @Max Payne

    Hey look I found your friend:

    • LOL: silviosilver
    • Replies: @Morton's toes
    @Max Payne

    Notice there isn't anybody else in the gym when he is making this video.

    I wonder if there are any other Adam Sinecki / Bioneer followers here.

    1. His new book is good enough to blast through in two sittings.

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/164250503X/

    2. He recently quit his day-job and is doing the fitness guru schtick full time so congratulations to him.

    3. Unlike Elon Musk and Peter Thiel and the rest of the autistic contingent he presents practical data on becoming transhumanist ubermensch now or within a few months. See for example here:

    https://www.thebioneer.com/cyberpunk-and-transhuman-technologies-you-can-try-right-now-or-very-soon/

  121. @Bashibuzuk
    https://theupheaval.substack.com/p/are-we-in-a-500-year-religious-revolution

    Excellent read. It has been predicted that Christianity would end up with the Reign of the Antichrist. It was its expected dialectic end result from the very beginning. While old pagan spirituality went in circles through Eons without beginning and end, the Abrahamic Creed (following in the Zoroastrian footsteps) envisioned the End of Times and a transcendent reconstruction of Reality. This Zeitgeist ended up completely f☆cking up the minds of the Western middle class and now their kids are fulfilling the long announced prophecies.

    Congratulations to everyone involved!

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon

    I was going to post a comment on the Book of Revelations and you did it way better than me – but I see somewhere else where the rot came from.

    The End Times as in the Book of Revelations was actually referring to immediate repression – the Roman one, and the Roman decline prophesized in the book played out neatly to what social predictions woven into the narrative of the book. I’d actually say, since the West still runs on much of the Roman cultural “infrastructure” in addition to an increasingly estranged Abrahamic religious zeal (just look at the American Empire!), a similar period of imperial prosperity ends up in similar decline with strife, famine, pestilence and “wild beasts” (metaphorical disastrous ones this time) – the prophecies are being fulfilled again, this time with conscious or unconscious (COVID vaccine passports as the “Mark of the Beast”) hindsight of the book.

    Human nature, especially what is filtered thru the mode of existence developing from Greco-Roman tradition, hasn’t really changed, and it’s set to fall into the same trap of hubris again.

    • Agree: Bashibuzuk
    • Replies: @Insomniac Resurrected
    @Yellowface Anon

    Wild boars and feral hogs...

    The Bible is a thinly veiled astrological allegory mixed with moralistic teachings.

    Check this, 12 tribes of Israel, 12 disciples of Jesus, 12 signs of the Zodiac

    Israelites worshipping the Golden calf, symbolism of overturning the Taurean Aeon, Lamb of God, symbol of the passing Aeon of Aries

    Luke 22:10-13 And he said unto them, Behold, when ye are entered into the city, there shall a man meet you, bearing a pitcher of water; follow him into the house where he entereth in.And ye shall say unto the goodman of the house, The Master saith unto thee, Where is the guestchamber, where I shall eat the passover with my disciples? And he shall shew you a large upper room furnished: there make ready.

    Man with the pitcher is Hapi the Egyptian archetype on which Aquarius is based, whose pitcher contained the waters of the Nile. Passover, spring festival, equinox...

    It is funny that the modern astrologers debate whether the ancients knew about the precession of the equinoxes but we have an allegorical reference to it in the Bible and in Greek mythology. Of course to a secular historian, this isn't enough evidence. And from an astrological perspective, this allegory may be entirely unconscious rather than a result of observation.

  122. @Bashibuzuk
    @Jatt Aryaa

    Better use Nuristani and Kalash as the proxy for Aryans. Among the Tadjik, use Badakhshan people. Also, don't forget the Hephtalite factor. Folks on the frescoe below are Spenta Huna (White Huns):

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/39/07/ae/3907ae8efe479e39ad843dc165e868f0.jpg

    Might have influenced Gilgit-Baltistan folks.

    Finally, the close distance of the northern Hindustani to the Aryan proxies among the modern populations is easily explained by the fact that northern Hindustan has been invaded countless times over some three thousand years from exactly the region (Central Asia) that you consider as "Aryan ".

    Think Kanishka and his Indo-Scythians. It has been done so often that some of your northern Brahmin populations ended up 78% R1a. That's the level it reaches in Vologda...

    That is why northern Hindustani are often of Aryan stock. If your Y haplogroup is R1a then your ancestors subdued these swarthy Dravidians and for lack of a better choice slept with their rather ugly women. Tough luck, but it might have been worse if your ancestors ended up invading Lake Chad region as some Y haplogroup R1b Yamnaya offshoot population did.

    😉

    Replies: @Svevlad, @Jatt Aryaa

    Maybe, Idc about race & it’s a troll map.

    Jatts are recent arrivals. I’ll say it bluntly, without religion you cannot be Arya & it’s better to be a Bantu following Dharma than a White Christian.

    S Indian Brahmin cluster with Tajik too. We care less about même gene maps since we still have our ancestral religions.

    That’s something White nationalists will have to cope with; they don’t ‘have it all’.

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Jatt Aryaa


    I’ll say it bluntly, without religion you cannot be Arya
     
    This is something I actually agree with. But I disagree that someone could ever become Aryan without being of Aryan ancestry. The overwhelming majority of White Nationalists worldwide have no Aryan ancestry and follow no Dharmic or Mazdean religion. Therefore, they have no rights to the Aryan history and are postmodern LARPers.

    Slavic Nationalists have the right to be proud of their ancestors, including the Corded Ware people of whom the Sintashta and Arkaim folks, who later produced both Vedic and Avestan Aryans, were an offshoot. But Slavs are not Aryan, Slavs and Balts are closer to the ancestral European Corded Ware people than to the ancient Central Asian Aryan populations.

    Replies: @Jatt Aryaa

  123. @Svevlad
    @Jatt Aryaa

    Dunno what you really are talking about, I have no idea what this EIC is.

    Replies: @Jatt Aryaa

    East India Company.

    Tbh, if Evangelism is American then even better its end is nigh.

    I was talking about reverse grip rows, if you don’t lift then you’re a woman.

    Thus, you shouldn’t talk about politics or even be involved in literacy.

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

  124. @DNS
    @Jatt Aryaa

    Jattoid delusions.

    Replies: @Jatt Aryaa

    I’m allowed to troll white people by debating which type of brown I am, Dindu.

    It makes 0 theological difference since Khalsa Panth is still highest.

    Btw, all medieval Hindu sources say Arya = Kesh & Mona or cut hair = Melech or Dasyu

    So which is it, Bhenchod?

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

  125. Bashibuzuk says:
    @Jatt Aryaa
    @Bashibuzuk

    Maybe, Idc about race & it's a troll map.

    Jatts are recent arrivals. I'll say it bluntly, without religion you cannot be Arya & it's better to be a Bantu following Dharma than a White Christian.

    S Indian Brahmin cluster with Tajik too. We care less about même gene maps since we still have our ancestral religions.

    That's something White nationalists will have to cope with; they don't 'have it all'.

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    I’ll say it bluntly, without religion you cannot be Arya

    This is something I actually agree with. But I disagree that someone could ever become Aryan without being of Aryan ancestry. The overwhelming majority of White Nationalists worldwide have no Aryan ancestry and follow no Dharmic or Mazdean religion. Therefore, they have no rights to the Aryan history and are postmodern LARPers.

    Slavic Nationalists have the right to be proud of their ancestors, including the Corded Ware people of whom the Sintashta and Arkaim folks, who later produced both Vedic and Avestan Aryans, were an offshoot. But Slavs are not Aryan, Slavs and Balts are closer to the ancestral European Corded Ware people than to the ancient Central Asian Aryan populations.

    • Replies: @Jatt Aryaa
    @Bashibuzuk

    I don't read history, I lift weights.

    Anyone can take Pahul.

    https://twitter.com/YungBhujang/status/1135839810390777857?s=20

    Beside the Khalsa all have undergone Sunnat (circumcision) whether of the mane or the genitals.

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @Bashibuzuk, @Anatoly Karlin

  126. @Bashibuzuk
    @Jatt Aryaa


    I’ll say it bluntly, without religion you cannot be Arya
     
    This is something I actually agree with. But I disagree that someone could ever become Aryan without being of Aryan ancestry. The overwhelming majority of White Nationalists worldwide have no Aryan ancestry and follow no Dharmic or Mazdean religion. Therefore, they have no rights to the Aryan history and are postmodern LARPers.

    Slavic Nationalists have the right to be proud of their ancestors, including the Corded Ware people of whom the Sintashta and Arkaim folks, who later produced both Vedic and Avestan Aryans, were an offshoot. But Slavs are not Aryan, Slavs and Balts are closer to the ancestral European Corded Ware people than to the ancient Central Asian Aryan populations.

    Replies: @Jatt Aryaa

    I don’t read history, I lift weights.

    Anyone can take Pahul.

    Beside the Khalsa all have undergone Sunnat (circumcision) whether of the mane or the genitals.

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

    • Agree: Anatoly Karlin
    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
    @Jatt Aryaa

    You can be a Buddhist too without being Arya. But does it make much of East Asia part of Arya's Dvipa?

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    , @Bashibuzuk
    @Jatt Aryaa


    I don’t read history, I lift weights
     
    I believe both are important.

    How can one recognize Truth if one does not ponder upon victories and errors of the past?

    How can one uphold Truth if one has mo moral strength?

    How can one defend Truth if one has no physical strength?

    Without wisdom, one has no morals, without morals a physically strong man is but a thug.

    Replies: @Jatt Aryaa

    , @Anatoly Karlin
    @Jatt Aryaa


    I don’t read history, I lift weights.
     
    Based and ironpilled.
  127. @Jatt Aryaa
    @Bashibuzuk

    I don't read history, I lift weights.

    Anyone can take Pahul.

    https://twitter.com/YungBhujang/status/1135839810390777857?s=20

    Beside the Khalsa all have undergone Sunnat (circumcision) whether of the mane or the genitals.

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @Bashibuzuk, @Anatoly Karlin

    You can be a Buddhist too without being Arya. But does it make much of East Asia part of Arya’s Dvipa?

    • Agree: Bashibuzuk
    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Yellowface Anon

    Actually, in my opinion the Oriental followers of Buddha Shakyamuni are spiritually closer to the ancient Aryan mindset than the supposedly "Aryan" Christian Western Europeans.

    Shakyamuni was of Saka Scythian descent after all. And those who follow his Dharma are in a sense part of the same spiritual family.

    Also, some Northern Han people are most probably of Central Asian Andronovo Culture descent because of the ancient nomadic Central Asian migrations into the modern day Chinese territory. In this case if they are Buddhist, then they would be Aryan related through both genetics and Dharma.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon

  128. Bashibuzuk says:
    @Jatt Aryaa
    @Bashibuzuk

    I don't read history, I lift weights.

    Anyone can take Pahul.

    https://twitter.com/YungBhujang/status/1135839810390777857?s=20

    Beside the Khalsa all have undergone Sunnat (circumcision) whether of the mane or the genitals.

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @Bashibuzuk, @Anatoly Karlin

    I don’t read history, I lift weights

    I believe both are important.

    How can one recognize Truth if one does not ponder upon victories and errors of the past?

    How can one uphold Truth if one has mo moral strength?

    How can one defend Truth if one has no physical strength?

    Without wisdom, one has no morals, without morals a physically strong man is but a thug.

    • Replies: @Jatt Aryaa
    @Bashibuzuk

    Pitamah Bhishma roared: “Kshatriya Dharma is unique. It has no memory. Not of sins, past births or failings” Fight bravely, and force Indra to share his throne. Even the gods envy the death of a Kshatriya on the battlefield”

    https://twitter.com/jvalaaa/status/1395052001931632645?s=20

    By trusting the Guru.
    Better a thug than a coward।।

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

  129. Bashibuzuk says:
    @Yellowface Anon
    @Jatt Aryaa

    You can be a Buddhist too without being Arya. But does it make much of East Asia part of Arya's Dvipa?

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    Actually, in my opinion the Oriental followers of Buddha Shakyamuni are spiritually closer to the ancient Aryan mindset than the supposedly “Aryan” Christian Western Europeans.

    Shakyamuni was of Saka Scythian descent after all. And those who follow his Dharma are in a sense part of the same spiritual family.

    Also, some Northern Han people are most probably of Central Asian Andronovo Culture descent because of the ancient nomadic Central Asian migrations into the modern day Chinese territory. In this case if they are Buddhist, then they would be Aryan related through both genetics and Dharma.

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
    @Bashibuzuk


    In this case if they are Buddhist, then they would be Aryan related through both genetics and Dharma.
     
    That is how you have a genuine Arya connection - blood, words and mind.
    (Those practicing syncretic religions really aren't since their cultural milieu is almost completely "Sinitic")

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

  130. @Passer by
    @Felix Keverich

    Bear in mind that the demographic situation in Russia is "extraordinary" as Putin directly says, so continuing to do what you have been doing is a path to nowhere.

    The country is on a long term decline, both as share of world population and of world GDP.

    Your government is crying about "traditional family values" in countless documents and in the Constitution precisely due to that.

    Guess why the hated pension reforms. You guys don't have children and then you cry and whine why you are forced to work longer to cover for the lack of young people and ageing population.

    Replies: @Felix Keverich

    The country is on a long term decline, both as share of world population and of world GDP.

    Misleading. Pretty much every country outside Africa will decline as a share of population and GDP. US and its allies will decline faster than others.

    • Replies: @Passer by
    @Felix Keverich


    Pretty much every country outside Africa will decline as a share of population and GDP. US and its allies will decline faster than others.
     
    You should not be so sure because you have poor knowledge. Better start reading instead of talking on forums.

    No, the US is to rouhgly keep its share in world population. Canada, UK, Australia, too. Europe is as bad as Russia. When talking about relative population share, even of pace of decline, Russia is below the average of world countries, so it is a country in relative population decline compared to the world average (most countries), as well as in total one.

    In GDP, the situation is even more different. Latin America, USA, Africa, Eastern Europe, Muslim World, Asia, overall, are to have higher growth rate than Russia, according to the big majority of estimates i have seen, with Russia registering below average world gdp growth in the long term, making it a country in relative economic decline in the world.

    Those who will gain in GDP world share are Africa, Muslim World and Asia overall. Some are in faster relative decline- Europe, Russia, some at lower pace - such as USA, Eastern Europe, Brazil or Australia. Thus those last entities are actually gaining over Russia.

    Its not that i like that situation, but this is what it is. I prefer not to delude myself like communists, who thought that USSR will win at any moment. I prefer to be much more realistic. I noticed that the more realistic and grounded a person is, not wearing rose colored glasses, the better able is to predict things. Which served me well.

    Replies: @Felix Keverich

    , @Passer by
    @Felix Keverich

    Oh, btw, President Putin is fully aware of those realities, recently naming the demographic situation in Russia "extraordinary", while insisting that the country should grow economically at world average. There was a good reason for those hated pension reforms, forcing people to work longer, and men until they die, and there was no choice about it - the country can not sustain itself with its current demographics.

    Replies: @Dmitry

  131. @mal
    @Yellowface Anon

    Automation always results in mass unemployment and is always resolved the same way - government spending. Usually for war though it doesn't have to be this way. But the underlying math is the same - government must run budget deficit to absorb surplus labor.

    Unemployed Luddite weavers became convicts and soldiers to colonize Australia or whatever, unemployed farmers became cannon fodder in World War 1, unemployed workers became cannon fodder in World War 2. Wars destroy capital (burn factories etc) and create new markets for the victors, which helps solve the problem temporarily.

    After WW2, US gained market share but by 1970's German and Japanese economies rebuilt and US choked again. By 1980's Reagan/Volcker has to go back to government spending and they dramatically increased US budget deficits and hiked rates to kill German and Japanese economies again by attracting global capital to US government financing. It was a suicidal move (US dollar nearly collapsed as a reserve currency by 1991) but luckily Gorbachev bailed them out.

    Anyway... High skill jobs don't help most people because average person has IQ of 100 and you don't want them in charge of $1,000,000 robot, or making any critical decisions. But they still must consume the robot output somehow, or robot owner goes bankrupt.

    Depopulation would be a disaster for the elites as they are the ones who own all the robots and factories etc. They would find themselves redundant. No people means no political power. Squirrels don't care what Schwab-Gates think about, only people do.

    Replies: @Thorfinnsson, @Insomniac Resurrected

    Depopulation would be a disaster for the elites as they are the ones who own all the robots and factories etc. They would find themselves redundant. No people means no political power. Squirrels don’t care what Schwab-Gates think about, only people do.

    Your post is informed by the consumerist/capitalist paradigm. But what if you switch the paradigm? You can totally reprogram society.

    Imagine 3D printers making anything on demand. You don’t need the population of consumers of factory made goods. Money may disappear. People could be grown in labs. If you factor in every variable, you can imagine a society vastly different from what it is now.

    • Thanks: Yellowface Anon
    • LOL: Jatt Aryaa
    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
    @Insomniac Resurrected

    Numbers no longer matter for the survival for the human species or their legacy when better technologically-mediated ways have been discovered - which is why the Davos crowd might be correct, but at a higher level of civilizational perspective.
    It's just that those perspectives are at best incomprehensible to the traditionalist, and at worst hostile to the whole spectrum of human existence.

    , @mal
    @Insomniac Resurrected

    Sure, but who is going to provide political power to our current overlords? Political power, like status, is a zero sum game.

    In the very near future the following scenario will take place.

    In a Davos bath house, Soros, Habsburg, Fink, Super Intelligent AI, and genetically engineered cyborg are sharing a bath.

    Soros: Cyborg, fetch me a towel!.

    Cyborg: Make me. You and what army?

    Soros: Me and 4 billion transgender Nigerians.

    Cyborg: Yes master.


    But in a depopulated world, current overlords become the bottom of the barrel. They will be easily surpassed by advanced tech and without political power they are nothing. Imagine going from ruler of the world to towel boy.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

    , @A123
    @Insomniac Resurrected


    Imagine 3D printers making anything on demand. You don’t need the population of consumers of factory made goods. Money may disappear.
     
    Some things would remain scarce. Desirable building locations with scenic vistas. Seats for performances such as concerts. There would still be an allocation method for these things, presumably monetary.

    Society would be very different if basic family needs (food, shelter, education, medical) could be met by one parent working 20 hours a week.
    _____

    There have been some science fiction short stories where the "right to work" was rationed to a limited # of hours per week. If work gives value to life, then each person needs to have the opportunity to work.

    A specific title/author does not immediately spring to mind, but some one else may have hit a story like this more recently.

    PEACE 😇
  132. @Bashibuzuk
    @Jatt Aryaa


    I don’t read history, I lift weights
     
    I believe both are important.

    How can one recognize Truth if one does not ponder upon victories and errors of the past?

    How can one uphold Truth if one has mo moral strength?

    How can one defend Truth if one has no physical strength?

    Without wisdom, one has no morals, without morals a physically strong man is but a thug.

    Replies: @Jatt Aryaa

    Pitamah Bhishma roared: “Kshatriya Dharma is unique. It has no memory. Not of sins, past births or failings” Fight bravely, and force Indra to share his throne. Even the gods envy the death of a Kshatriya on the battlefield”

    By trusting the Guru.
    Better a thug than a coward।।

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Jatt Aryaa

    The final battle is always against one's ego and I don't think असुर have an enviable existence.

  133. I cannot understand what factor gets my comments censored-out occasionally in various places on this website. I do not use profanity, or advocate violence, or furnish information that could identify me or any other person.

    Ron once lamented that a significant number of “deranged” or “unhinged” commenters have joined. I replied that, beginning with Don Quijote and Hamlet, and continuing to the present day, the deranged and unhinged have made important contributions to literature, history, and other areas of thought. Assuming this is correct, I feel that even if my censored comments were irrational and preposterous, they should be allowed. In any case, if one is not able to make eccentric comments here, then where? Harsh reply comments would follow any such eccentric comment. Their justice would be swift, and mercy slight.

    • Agree: Thorfinnsson
    • Replies: @Alfa158
    @SafeNow

    Hamlet and Don Quixote are fictional characters and have therefore made no contributions to humanity. Their creators, Shakespeare and Cervantes who did make contributions, were not deranged or unhinged.
    There have been artists with issues like Van Gogh who have made contributions, but overwhelmingly the positive contributions to our history were made by stable people. There is almost no supporting evidence for the old factoid that madness is just next to genius.
    You’ll need better examples for your thesis.

  134. @Jatt Aryaa
    @Bashibuzuk

    Pitamah Bhishma roared: “Kshatriya Dharma is unique. It has no memory. Not of sins, past births or failings” Fight bravely, and force Indra to share his throne. Even the gods envy the death of a Kshatriya on the battlefield”

    https://twitter.com/jvalaaa/status/1395052001931632645?s=20

    By trusting the Guru.
    Better a thug than a coward।।

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    The final battle is always against one’s ego and I don’t think असुर have an enviable existence.

    • Agree: Jatt Aryaa
  135. @Bashibuzuk
    @Yellowface Anon

    Actually, in my opinion the Oriental followers of Buddha Shakyamuni are spiritually closer to the ancient Aryan mindset than the supposedly "Aryan" Christian Western Europeans.

    Shakyamuni was of Saka Scythian descent after all. And those who follow his Dharma are in a sense part of the same spiritual family.

    Also, some Northern Han people are most probably of Central Asian Andronovo Culture descent because of the ancient nomadic Central Asian migrations into the modern day Chinese territory. In this case if they are Buddhist, then they would be Aryan related through both genetics and Dharma.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon

    In this case if they are Buddhist, then they would be Aryan related through both genetics and Dharma.

    That is how you have a genuine Arya connection – blood, words and mind.
    (Those practicing syncretic religions really aren’t since their cultural milieu is almost completely “Sinitic”)

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Yellowface Anon

    I don't know enough about the current Dharma situation in China to comment. Perhaps, Altan could weigh in.

    My subjective impression is that continental Chinese at least, are spiritually speaking no longer the kind of people described in Xu Yun's biography. Cultural Revolution was quite successful at erasing the traditional Chinese mindset.

    On the other hand, I saw documentaries about Chinese Buddhism that seem to show that a Dharmic Renaissance is possible in China. I sincerely hope that it will happen this would be a great blessing to the Chinese people and the whole world.

    Perhaps people more knowledgeable than me might share their opinion about this topic.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon

  136. @Insomniac Resurrected
    @mal


    Depopulation would be a disaster for the elites as they are the ones who own all the robots and factories etc. They would find themselves redundant. No people means no political power. Squirrels don’t care what Schwab-Gates think about, only people do.
     
    Your post is informed by the consumerist/capitalist paradigm. But what if you switch the paradigm? You can totally reprogram society.

    Imagine 3D printers making anything on demand. You don't need the population of consumers of factory made goods. Money may disappear. People could be grown in labs. If you factor in every variable, you can imagine a society vastly different from what it is now.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @mal, @A123

    Numbers no longer matter for the survival for the human species or their legacy when better technologically-mediated ways have been discovered – which is why the Davos crowd might be correct, but at a higher level of civilizational perspective.
    It’s just that those perspectives are at best incomprehensible to the traditionalist, and at worst hostile to the whole spectrum of human existence.

  137. @Yellowface Anon
    @Bashibuzuk

    I was going to post a comment on the Book of Revelations and you did it way better than me - but I see somewhere else where the rot came from.

    The End Times as in the Book of Revelations was actually referring to immediate repression - the Roman one, and the Roman decline prophesized in the book played out neatly to what social predictions woven into the narrative of the book. I'd actually say, since the West still runs on much of the Roman cultural "infrastructure" in addition to an increasingly estranged Abrahamic religious zeal (just look at the American Empire!), a similar period of imperial prosperity ends up in similar decline with strife, famine, pestilence and "wild beasts" (metaphorical disastrous ones this time) - the prophecies are being fulfilled again, this time with conscious or unconscious (COVID vaccine passports as the "Mark of the Beast") hindsight of the book.

    Human nature, especially what is filtered thru the mode of existence developing from Greco-Roman tradition, hasn't really changed, and it's set to fall into the same trap of hubris again.

    Replies: @Insomniac Resurrected

    Wild boars and feral hogs…

    The Bible is a thinly veiled astrological allegory mixed with moralistic teachings.

    Check this, 12 tribes of Israel, 12 disciples of Jesus, 12 signs of the Zodiac

    Israelites worshipping the Golden calf, symbolism of overturning the Taurean Aeon, Lamb of God, symbol of the passing Aeon of Aries

    Luke 22:10-13 And he said unto them, Behold, when ye are entered into the city, there shall a man meet you, bearing a pitcher of water; follow him into the house where he entereth in.And ye shall say unto the goodman of the house, The Master saith unto thee, Where is the guestchamber, where I shall eat the passover with my disciples? And he shall shew you a large upper room furnished: there make ready.

    Man with the pitcher is Hapi the Egyptian archetype on which Aquarius is based, whose pitcher contained the waters of the Nile. Passover, spring festival, equinox…

    It is funny that the modern astrologers debate whether the ancients knew about the precession of the equinoxes but we have an allegorical reference to it in the Bible and in Greek mythology. Of course to a secular historian, this isn’t enough evidence. And from an astrological perspective, this allegory may be entirely unconscious rather than a result of observation.

  138. Thoughts?

    Professor from U of Guelph 6th in world for Virus

    https://omny.fm/shows/on-point-with-alex-pierson/new-peer-reviewed-study-on-covid-19-vaccines-sugge?t=2m42s.

    Summary:

    What has been discovered by the scientific community is that the spike protein alone is almost entirely responsible for the damage to the cardiovascular system if it gets into circulation. The assumption of this vaccine was that it should behave like traditional vaccines and remain in the area of the injection site, the shoulder, and activate the immune system in that area.

    However, through a FOIA request submitted via a Japanese regulatory agency, Dr. Bridle and his international colleagues have obtained access to a biodistribution study. This study relates to where mRNA vaccines infect what parts of the body. The short answer is that the mRNA does not remain localized in the injection site of the shoulder muscle. The spike protein is a pathogenic protein that is a toxin and cause damage to the body. The spike protein gets into the bloodstream over several days post vaccination and accumulates in the spleen, the bone marrow, the liver, the adrenal glands, the ovaries, the heart, and can bind onto platelets and blood vessel lining cells which can cause platelets to clump (leading to clots) and can lead to bleeding. It can also cross the blood-brain barrier and cause neurological damage.

    There is unpublished evidence suggesting that not only the antibodies from the vaccine can transfer through breast milk, but also the viral spike mRNA into breastfed infants. The USA adverse event database shows evidence of suckling infants suffering from bleeding disorders in the gastrointestinal tract. The Canadian Blood Service is currently allowing vaccinated people to donate blood. This presents a risk of transfer of pathogenic spike proteins to fragile patients.

    This has serious implications for people whom SARS CoV-2 is not a high risk pathogen which includes youth. This has risk of rendering some people infertile.

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
    @Jatt Aryaa

    You just found out what a lot of anti-COVID-vaxxers know all along - mRNA tech is bunk (at least for this exact type of virus).

    Something I have been wondering is whether some or all of the defects in experimental mRNA tech affect vaccines made using well-used technologies (Sputnik V) employing the spike protein? If they are also compromised, you should think twice before taking the specific type of vaccines (while also noting that mandatory vaccines for such a low-risk disease is insensible).

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

    , @That Would Be Telling
    @Jatt Aryaa


    There is unpublished evidence....
     
    Given how very easy it is to publish a preprint this is very close to Dr. Bridle and his colleagues saying "we're lying." I'm definitely suspicious of free in the blood stream wild type (WT) spike proteins being pathogenic and that suggests the (AZ/)Oxford strong women vaccine should be avoided, and Sputnik V as well if as rumored is too does not stabilize its spike protein. Note there's an alternative hypothesis pertaining to accurate production of whole and correct spike proteins that suspected for the adenovirus vector vaccines, which also include Janssen's, as well as concerns from various sources some or many of these vaccines don't get sufficiently purified.

    But not all spike proteins are created alike, a line of research going back to a disastrous crude inactivated whole virus vaccine in the 1960s resulted in some researchers at the NIH by that point in 2017 figuring out how to stabilize SARS type coronavirus spike proteins into the "prefusion" configuration, that is as our Jack D. put it, "adding some molecular twist ties" so it can't fuse with ACE2 receptors. That doesn't rule out these spike proteins being pathogenic, I'm guessing they still have some ability to bind to ACE2 without then continuing the process, but this profound difference needs to be considered when looking at data sets of adverse events. Note also Janssen's stabilization goes beyond the 2P "twist ties."

    It's also a red herring to note "[...] the mRNA does not remain localized in the injection site of the shoulder muscle." if the posited issue is free spike proteins in the bloodstream as is implied by several of the concerns expressed. Their mRNA sequences do like the WT versions instruct cells to send them to the surface of the cells, where they could do some damage, and through various mechanisms some get free, but you'd need to see for example exactly what the blood brain barrier allows through especially in terms of cells. I'd assume at least some components of the immune system can cross for the obvious reasons, but there's a huge range of them. And ending with:

    This has serious implications for people whom SARS CoV-2 is not a high risk pathogen which includes youth. This has risk of rendering some people infertile.
     
    Is not thinking straight about the whole picture of disease vs. vaccines, as well as confounding mortality ("low risk") with morbidity. In what circumstances would a vaccine be worse than a superficially mild but still relatively uncontrolled infection with the wild type virus, which is going to pump a lot of wild type spike proteins in their blood stream? As the claim acknowledges, the option of not having one or the other is not on the table, there are no risk free options.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon

  139. Ad. Import Substitution

    Kitaev has quite good videos on what is being built in terms of Russian industrial production

    Ad. Russia is a force for good. NTV aired this drama about Russian involvement in Central Africa

  140. @Yellowface Anon
    @Thorfinnsson

    The Schumpeterian view that creative destruction leads to both destroyed jobs in obsolete sectors and new jobs in emerging sectors are true as far as economies are geared to production and consumption for both capital and labor - that's the premise you've spotted.

    Once labor can be substituted in all forms (that is why AI is a break from previous technological improvements), only capital is needed to reproduce itself (remember the Matrix triology?). So, the "redundancy" is actually the result of the particular set of relations of production under AI technology - you'll have techno-feudalism whatever way you approach the extensive use of AI because of that "redundancy" and resultant dependence on economic support of the chronically unemployed.

    Replies: @Thorfinnsson

    This is true, but this sort of technology does not exist. Once it does exist, we won’t have techno-feudalism because feudalism is based upon supplying labor to a lord in exchange for his protection. We’ll either have UBI or the actual elimination of the lower orders.

    As to whether or not such technology will exist, we don’t know what the future holds. I’m an AI skeptic, but there’s certainly no law of physics which says that most human labor can’t go the way of the horse.

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
    @Thorfinnsson

    The elites might jump the gun in the depopulation part - reshape the economy after the fact.

  141. @Felix Keverich
    @Passer by


    The country is on a long term decline, both as share of world population and of world GDP.
     
    Misleading. Pretty much every country outside Africa will decline as a share of population and GDP. US and its allies will decline faster than others.

    Replies: @Passer by, @Passer by

    Pretty much every country outside Africa will decline as a share of population and GDP. US and its allies will decline faster than others.

    You should not be so sure because you have poor knowledge. Better start reading instead of talking on forums.

    No, the US is to rouhgly keep its share in world population. Canada, UK, Australia, too. Europe is as bad as Russia. When talking about relative population share, even of pace of decline, Russia is below the average of world countries, so it is a country in relative population decline compared to the world average (most countries), as well as in total one.

    In GDP, the situation is even more different. Latin America, USA, Africa, Eastern Europe, Muslim World, Asia, overall, are to have higher growth rate than Russia, according to the big majority of estimates i have seen, with Russia registering below average world gdp growth in the long term, making it a country in relative economic decline in the world.

    Those who will gain in GDP world share are Africa, Muslim World and Asia overall. Some are in faster relative decline- Europe, Russia, some at lower pace – such as USA, Eastern Europe, Brazil or Australia. Thus those last entities are actually gaining over Russia.

    Its not that i like that situation, but this is what it is. I prefer not to delude myself like communists, who thought that USSR will win at any moment. I prefer to be much more realistic. I noticed that the more realistic and grounded a person is, not wearing rose colored glasses, the better able is to predict things. Which served me well.

    • Replies: @Felix Keverich
    @Passer by

    You wrote a lengthy post, that doesn't disprove the point I made. Sub-Sahara Africa is where the lion share of growth is going to come from. Most other countires will "decline" as a share of world's population and GDP.

    You want to despair over this, feel free. But, personally, I don't really care about Africa. We're not in competition with it. I'm not concerned about Eastern Europe either, which is a demographic disaster zone, with populations declining by 10-30% since 1989.

    Replies: @Passer by

  142. @mal
    @Thorfinnsson


    There was a secular rise in unskilled unemployment in Britain from 1870 – 1913, which may have contributed to emigration (unsure of the skill level of emigrants), but overall unemployment was quite low.
     
    Well sure.

    Many people were encouraged to leave the UK to settle overseas. Between 1853 and 1913, as many as 13 million British citizens left the country.
     
    https://lifeintheuktests.co.uk/study-guide/?chapter=3&section=4/

    For context, in 1900 UK population was around 40 million. Also, wasn't 10% of London female population in Victorian England employed as prostitutes?

    To be fair, you are right - debt levels did drop in the UK by 1913. But losing millions of your fellow citizens in the process is the quickest way to lose your Empire and your country. We probably want a smarter way of doing things, and not the losing UK way.

    Automation creates sectoral unemployment, but it creates new demand by lowering prices for consumers and increasing the income of capital and skilled labor. The surplus income is then spent elsewhere, increasing output in those sectors.
     
    All that income comes from debt. Unemployed people have very little or no income, and they can't create new demand. No new demand, no income for capital and skilled labor. So somebody has to step in and borrow money/create debt to provide income to the unemployed. If private sector fails to do so, this role falls on the state. Otherwise, all those automated industries fail and value of capital collapses. And we can't allow that in a modern economy.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @Thorfinnsson

    Research about the composition of 19th century British emigrants would be helpful here. I honestly do not know their composition, but I would suspect that most British emigrants were not from the lowest rungs of society. In his eulogy for his late father, Peter Brimelow referred to the British as Europe’s great emigrant race. He himself was one, as is fellow VDARE writer John Derbyshire. Neither were unemployable in Britain.

    Most of these British emigrants also moved to the Empire, which was part of an integrated economic system.

    As for the prostitutes of London, I’m not sure what the point is here. Prostitution is an ancient and ordinary trade which always flourishes in cities when it is not suppressed. The desperation women allegedly must experience before they sell their body is often much exaggerated.

    Moving onto the matter of debt, everyone’s debt is someone else’s asset. The state is the most creditworthy borrower, so this is not necessarily concerning. Debt becomes concerning when it rises so rapidly that the ability to service it comes into question.

  143. @Felix Keverich
    @Passer by


    The country is on a long term decline, both as share of world population and of world GDP.
     
    Misleading. Pretty much every country outside Africa will decline as a share of population and GDP. US and its allies will decline faster than others.

    Replies: @Passer by, @Passer by

    Oh, btw, President Putin is fully aware of those realities, recently naming the demographic situation in Russia “extraordinary”, while insisting that the country should grow economically at world average. There was a good reason for those hated pension reforms, forcing people to work longer, and men until they die, and there was no choice about it – the country can not sustain itself with its current demographics.

    • Agree: Bashibuzuk
    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @Passer by

    Low fertility and ageing population, is not completely negative, especially from the point of view of rulers, but also to some extent for national interests and ordinary people.

    After war, the second worst problem for Russia in the 20th century was political instability. Low fertility and ageing population are factors which contribute to increasing political stability in Russia.

    In addition, a stable or falling population, add upward pressure to GDP per capita, and downward pressure on youth unemployment and crime rate.

    In an economy based on extraction of natural resources, which are fixed, then reducing the denominator of the income earned via a falling population might make it more possible to progress through the middle income trap.


    Putin is fully aware of those realities, recently naming the demographic situation in Russia “extraordinary”

     

    Of many things he might have nightmares about, I doubt he is having nightmares about the fertility rate. Top officials have a priority to maintain appearances of success or effective management, if not an underlying reality, as the appearance by itself might be sufficient to keep them in their very profitable positions.

    Putin needs to seem like he is concerned about weak demographics and is responding adequately. However, if the demographics are adding downward pressure on youth unemployment and crime rate, and could create upward pressure on GDP per capita, then - it's possible that this situation will be a boost for him.

    -


    Median age is likely to contribute to political stability. In Belarus, last summer, there was a sense that even if the majority of energetic young people opposed Lukashenko, then only 11,5% of the population of Belarus are in the age category of 20-29.

    So the demonstrations of young people in Minsk, was a sign that Lukashenko had plenty of unpopularity - among a demographic that could not be more than 11,5% of his country. Anti-Lukashenko opinions of youth in Belarus, were less important than they would be in a country where the youth was a more significant share of the population. (E.g. in countries like Egypt, Syria or Libya in the "Arab Spring").
    https://i.imgur.com/QNPBkhM.jpg

    In 2011 Egypt, there were 19% of the population in the age category of 20-29. Compared to Lukashenko, Mubarak was playing with a higher difficulty level setting for demographics, other things equal

    https://i.imgur.com/R9qkUBf.jpg

    Replies: @Passer by

  144. @Jatt Aryaa
    @Bashibuzuk

    I don't read history, I lift weights.

    Anyone can take Pahul.

    https://twitter.com/YungBhujang/status/1135839810390777857?s=20

    Beside the Khalsa all have undergone Sunnat (circumcision) whether of the mane or the genitals.

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @Bashibuzuk, @Anatoly Karlin

    I don’t read history, I lift weights.

    Based and ironpilled.

  145. @Passer by
    @Felix Keverich


    Pretty much every country outside Africa will decline as a share of population and GDP. US and its allies will decline faster than others.
     
    You should not be so sure because you have poor knowledge. Better start reading instead of talking on forums.

    No, the US is to rouhgly keep its share in world population. Canada, UK, Australia, too. Europe is as bad as Russia. When talking about relative population share, even of pace of decline, Russia is below the average of world countries, so it is a country in relative population decline compared to the world average (most countries), as well as in total one.

    In GDP, the situation is even more different. Latin America, USA, Africa, Eastern Europe, Muslim World, Asia, overall, are to have higher growth rate than Russia, according to the big majority of estimates i have seen, with Russia registering below average world gdp growth in the long term, making it a country in relative economic decline in the world.

    Those who will gain in GDP world share are Africa, Muslim World and Asia overall. Some are in faster relative decline- Europe, Russia, some at lower pace - such as USA, Eastern Europe, Brazil or Australia. Thus those last entities are actually gaining over Russia.

    Its not that i like that situation, but this is what it is. I prefer not to delude myself like communists, who thought that USSR will win at any moment. I prefer to be much more realistic. I noticed that the more realistic and grounded a person is, not wearing rose colored glasses, the better able is to predict things. Which served me well.

    Replies: @Felix Keverich

    You wrote a lengthy post, that doesn’t disprove the point I made. Sub-Sahara Africa is where the lion share of growth is going to come from. Most other countires will “decline” as a share of world’s population and GDP.

    You want to despair over this, feel free. But, personally, I don’t really care about Africa. We’re not in competition with it. I’m not concerned about Eastern Europe either, which is a demographic disaster zone, with populations declining by 10-30% since 1989.

    • Replies: @Passer by
    @Felix Keverich

    Wrong, the lion's share in GDP growth is to come from Asia. As for population growth, that is more the case, but Russia being below the average of most countries is sub-par performance that i can not approve.

    So no, i do not see below average (of median country) GDP growth as a good thing, or below average (of median country) population growth as a good thing. It means that Russia is objectively declining country, vs most other countries.


    You want to despair over this, feel free
     
    Oh, its not me, it looks like Putin is despairing, constantly crying about bad demographics. Tell that to him, not to me. Why do you think men were forced to work until they die? Because things are fine and dandy?

    Replies: @Felix Keverich, @mal

  146. Bashibuzuk says:
    @Yellowface Anon
    @Bashibuzuk


    In this case if they are Buddhist, then they would be Aryan related through both genetics and Dharma.
     
    That is how you have a genuine Arya connection - blood, words and mind.
    (Those practicing syncretic religions really aren't since their cultural milieu is almost completely "Sinitic")

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    I don’t know enough about the current Dharma situation in China to comment. Perhaps, Altan could weigh in.

    My subjective impression is that continental Chinese at least, are spiritually speaking no longer the kind of people described in Xu Yun’s biography. Cultural Revolution was quite successful at erasing the traditional Chinese mindset.

    On the other hand, I saw documentaries about Chinese Buddhism that seem to show that a Dharmic Renaissance is possible in China. I sincerely hope that it will happen this would be a great blessing to the Chinese people and the whole world.

    Perhaps people more knowledgeable than me might share their opinion about this topic.

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
    @Bashibuzuk

    What was done with Cultural Revolution in Red China, is done with pozzing in "free" China and the diaspora.

    Both half of the Sinosphere are waiting for the renaissance - but no flowering is in sight yet.

  147. @Felix Keverich
    @Passer by

    You wrote a lengthy post, that doesn't disprove the point I made. Sub-Sahara Africa is where the lion share of growth is going to come from. Most other countires will "decline" as a share of world's population and GDP.

    You want to despair over this, feel free. But, personally, I don't really care about Africa. We're not in competition with it. I'm not concerned about Eastern Europe either, which is a demographic disaster zone, with populations declining by 10-30% since 1989.

    Replies: @Passer by

    Wrong, the lion’s share in GDP growth is to come from Asia. As for population growth, that is more the case, but Russia being below the average of most countries is sub-par performance that i can not approve.

    So no, i do not see below average (of median country) GDP growth as a good thing, or below average (of median country) population growth as a good thing. It means that Russia is objectively declining country, vs most other countries.

    You want to despair over this, feel free

    Oh, its not me, it looks like Putin is despairing, constantly crying about bad demographics. Tell that to him, not to me. Why do you think men were forced to work until they die? Because things are fine and dandy?

    • Replies: @Felix Keverich
    @Passer by


    So no, i do not see below average (of median country) GDP growth as a good thing, or below average (of median country) population growth as a good thing.
     
    No, it really is irrelevant, because the "average country" is located in the third world, has 80 points in IQ and is not in competition with Russia economically, culturally or militarily. Their growth does not diminish Russia's position in any way, if anything it dilutes Western control of the world's economy and creates new demand for commodities that Russia sells.

    American obsession with growth is what caused them to import 100 million Latin Americans, but did it make their country stronger? No.

    Replies: @Passer by

    , @mal
    @Passer by

    Felix is right here. Asian population trends are so bad they make Russia look like Nigeria. Chinese run a bit late, but if Japan and S Korea are the guide, Asian prospects look grim after 2050 or so.

    It will be Planet India first, and then Planet Nigeria. Woohoo?

    The good news is space colonies should become a thing by then.

    Though Lords Resistance Army does provide cheap daycare, can't argue with that. So there will be some benefits on Earth too.

    Replies: @Passer by

  148. @Jatt Aryaa
    Thoughts?

    Professor from U of Guelph 6th in world for Virus

    https://omny.fm/shows/on-point-with-alex-pierson/new-peer-reviewed-study-on-covid-19-vaccines-sugge?t=2m42s.

    Summary:

    What has been discovered by the scientific community is that the spike protein alone is almost entirely responsible for the damage to the cardiovascular system if it gets into circulation. The assumption of this vaccine was that it should behave like traditional vaccines and remain in the area of the injection site, the shoulder, and activate the immune system in that area.

    However, through a FOIA request submitted via a Japanese regulatory agency, Dr. Bridle and his international colleagues have obtained access to a biodistribution study. This study relates to where mRNA vaccines infect what parts of the body. The short answer is that the mRNA does not remain localized in the injection site of the shoulder muscle. The spike protein is a pathogenic protein that is a toxin and cause damage to the body. The spike protein gets into the bloodstream over several days post vaccination and accumulates in the spleen, the bone marrow, the liver, the adrenal glands, the ovaries, the heart, and can bind onto platelets and blood vessel lining cells which can cause platelets to clump (leading to clots) and can lead to bleeding. It can also cross the blood-brain barrier and cause neurological damage.

    There is unpublished evidence suggesting that not only the antibodies from the vaccine can transfer through breast milk, but also the viral spike mRNA into breastfed infants. The USA adverse event database shows evidence of suckling infants suffering from bleeding disorders in the gastrointestinal tract. The Canadian Blood Service is currently allowing vaccinated people to donate blood. This presents a risk of transfer of pathogenic spike proteins to fragile patients.

    This has serious implications for people whom SARS CoV-2 is not a high risk pathogen which includes youth. This has risk of rendering some people infertile.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @That Would Be Telling

    You just found out what a lot of anti-COVID-vaxxers know all along – mRNA tech is bunk (at least for this exact type of virus).

    Something I have been wondering is whether some or all of the defects in experimental mRNA tech affect vaccines made using well-used technologies (Sputnik V) employing the spike protein? If they are also compromised, you should think twice before taking the specific type of vaccines (while also noting that mandatory vaccines for such a low-risk disease is insensible).

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @Yellowface Anon


    Something I have been wondering is whether some or all of the defects in experimental mRNA tech affect vaccines made using conventional (inactivated virus) or well-used (Sputnik V) technologies?
     
    "mRNA tech" is no longer experimental, the experiments like Phase I through IV having been run, inactivated (whole) virus vaccines are not as "conventional" as you think, attenuated live virus vaccines being both the very first one which gave us the name "vaccine" from Latin for "smallpox of the cow" and composing a lot of childhood vaccines, and adenovirus vector vaccines like Sputnik V are almost as novel as mRNA technology.

    But also see "subunit" vaccines like the ones for flu which use one or two surface proteins akin to the coronavirus spike protein, for COVID-19 Novavax is the furthest along but says it can't get sufficient manufacturing capability. Russia's second vaccine is a clever version of this concept that only presents small bits of proteins to the immune system, somewhat like how that works with cells. It's a very discriminating technique that allows you to select exactly what you want antibodies and CD8+ T cells to target, and would also allow backup protection through targeting of the nucleocapsid protein that's hidden inside viruses and is the #2 natural immunity target after the spike protein.

    This blog's comment section should be a good place to ask if Gamaleya has previously fielded a adenovirus vector vaccine like Sputnik V with Ad5 and/or Ad26 adenoviruses. As in, if you don't know this, maybe you can look it up in Russian language sources? Note also Sputnik Light, a one dose Ad26 vaccine, the first of the two in Sputnik V, same vector as Janssen's with similar objectives and ambitions.

    Otherwise Oxford's platform mostly from an adenovirus found in chimp feces (am not making that up) with a bit of human adenovirus DNA spliced in was a decade long grift by the strong women of the Jenner Institute, before 2020 never having being tested on more the 45 people at a time in Phase I trials. If you like conspiracies, note the coincidence of their starting a MERS coronavirus Phase I trial in mid-December 2019, although it would have been in the works for many months before then, between creating the vaccine candidate and arranging with the Saudis to do the trial there.

    And Janssen's platform never got beyond a European based Phase III trial as one of the two jabs for their Ebola vaccine, it wasn't the one that got a lot of use in the last African epidemic. Which is a virus vector vaccine that uses a very different platform, a replication competent RNA virus vs. a replication incompetent DNA virus (and Brazil among other things did not like Gamaleya's data for the small fraction of one of its jabs that regained replication competence, also likely making those viruses useless for vaccination).

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon

  149. @Jatt Aryaa
    Thoughts?

    Professor from U of Guelph 6th in world for Virus

    https://omny.fm/shows/on-point-with-alex-pierson/new-peer-reviewed-study-on-covid-19-vaccines-sugge?t=2m42s.

    Summary:

    What has been discovered by the scientific community is that the spike protein alone is almost entirely responsible for the damage to the cardiovascular system if it gets into circulation. The assumption of this vaccine was that it should behave like traditional vaccines and remain in the area of the injection site, the shoulder, and activate the immune system in that area.

    However, through a FOIA request submitted via a Japanese regulatory agency, Dr. Bridle and his international colleagues have obtained access to a biodistribution study. This study relates to where mRNA vaccines infect what parts of the body. The short answer is that the mRNA does not remain localized in the injection site of the shoulder muscle. The spike protein is a pathogenic protein that is a toxin and cause damage to the body. The spike protein gets into the bloodstream over several days post vaccination and accumulates in the spleen, the bone marrow, the liver, the adrenal glands, the ovaries, the heart, and can bind onto platelets and blood vessel lining cells which can cause platelets to clump (leading to clots) and can lead to bleeding. It can also cross the blood-brain barrier and cause neurological damage.

    There is unpublished evidence suggesting that not only the antibodies from the vaccine can transfer through breast milk, but also the viral spike mRNA into breastfed infants. The USA adverse event database shows evidence of suckling infants suffering from bleeding disorders in the gastrointestinal tract. The Canadian Blood Service is currently allowing vaccinated people to donate blood. This presents a risk of transfer of pathogenic spike proteins to fragile patients.

    This has serious implications for people whom SARS CoV-2 is not a high risk pathogen which includes youth. This has risk of rendering some people infertile.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @That Would Be Telling

    There is unpublished evidence….

    Given how very easy it is to publish a preprint this is very close to Dr. Bridle and his colleagues saying “we’re lying.” I’m definitely suspicious of free in the blood stream wild type (WT) spike proteins being pathogenic and that suggests the (AZ/)Oxford strong women vaccine should be avoided, and Sputnik V as well if as rumored is too does not stabilize its spike protein. Note there’s an alternative hypothesis pertaining to accurate production of whole and correct spike proteins that suspected for the adenovirus vector vaccines, which also include Janssen’s, as well as concerns from various sources some or many of these vaccines don’t get sufficiently purified.

    But not all spike proteins are created alike, a line of research going back to a disastrous crude inactivated whole virus vaccine in the 1960s resulted in some researchers at the NIH by that point in 2017 figuring out how to stabilize SARS type coronavirus spike proteins into the “prefusion” configuration, that is as our Jack D. put it, “adding some molecular twist ties” so it can’t fuse with ACE2 receptors. That doesn’t rule out these spike proteins being pathogenic, I’m guessing they still have some ability to bind to ACE2 without then continuing the process, but this profound difference needs to be considered when looking at data sets of adverse events. Note also Janssen’s stabilization goes beyond the 2P “twist ties.”

    It’s also a red herring to note “[…] the mRNA does not remain localized in the injection site of the shoulder muscle.” if the posited issue is free spike proteins in the bloodstream as is implied by several of the concerns expressed. Their mRNA sequences do like the WT versions instruct cells to send them to the surface of the cells, where they could do some damage, and through various mechanisms some get free, but you’d need to see for example exactly what the blood brain barrier allows through especially in terms of cells. I’d assume at least some components of the immune system can cross for the obvious reasons, but there’s a huge range of them. And ending with:

    This has serious implications for people whom SARS CoV-2 is not a high risk pathogen which includes youth. This has risk of rendering some people infertile.

    Is not thinking straight about the whole picture of disease vs. vaccines, as well as confounding mortality (“low risk”) with morbidity. In what circumstances would a vaccine be worse than a superficially mild but still relatively uncontrolled infection with the wild type virus, which is going to pump a lot of wild type spike proteins in their blood stream? As the claim acknowledges, the option of not having one or the other is not on the table, there are no risk free options.

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
    @That Would Be Telling


    Is not thinking straight about the whole picture of disease vs. vaccines, as well as confounding mortality (“low risk”) with morbidity. In what circumstances would a vaccine be worse than a superficially mild but still relatively uncontrolled infection with the wild type virus, which is going to pump a lot of wild type spike proteins in their blood stream? As the claim acknowledges, the option of not having one or the other is not on the table, there are no risk free options.
     
    Indeed that will be a possible scenario with a natural infection. But you should've known how unlikely it is for young people who suffer from COVID, vis-a-vis the near-certainty (if Dr. Bridle and his/her team are proven correct) of hemorrhages.

    The risk calculation of natural immunity vs vaccine-induced immunity should really be up to each one thinking of vaccination at the margin (those whose risk from vaccination is comparable/might exceed natural infection) to decide. Adding state compulsion on top of this is divisive and alienates many from whatever institutions that buys into the vaccination drive.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

  150. @Thorfinnsson
    @Yellowface Anon

    This is true, but this sort of technology does not exist. Once it does exist, we won't have techno-feudalism because feudalism is based upon supplying labor to a lord in exchange for his protection. We'll either have UBI or the actual elimination of the lower orders.

    As to whether or not such technology will exist, we don't know what the future holds. I'm an AI skeptic, but there's certainly no law of physics which says that most human labor can't go the way of the horse.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon

    The elites might jump the gun in the depopulation part – reshape the economy after the fact.

  151. @Bashibuzuk
    @Yellowface Anon

    I don't know enough about the current Dharma situation in China to comment. Perhaps, Altan could weigh in.

    My subjective impression is that continental Chinese at least, are spiritually speaking no longer the kind of people described in Xu Yun's biography. Cultural Revolution was quite successful at erasing the traditional Chinese mindset.

    On the other hand, I saw documentaries about Chinese Buddhism that seem to show that a Dharmic Renaissance is possible in China. I sincerely hope that it will happen this would be a great blessing to the Chinese people and the whole world.

    Perhaps people more knowledgeable than me might share their opinion about this topic.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon

    What was done with Cultural Revolution in Red China, is done with pozzing in “free” China and the diaspora.

    Both half of the Sinosphere are waiting for the renaissance – but no flowering is in sight yet.

  152. @Passer by
    @Felix Keverich

    Wrong, the lion's share in GDP growth is to come from Asia. As for population growth, that is more the case, but Russia being below the average of most countries is sub-par performance that i can not approve.

    So no, i do not see below average (of median country) GDP growth as a good thing, or below average (of median country) population growth as a good thing. It means that Russia is objectively declining country, vs most other countries.


    You want to despair over this, feel free
     
    Oh, its not me, it looks like Putin is despairing, constantly crying about bad demographics. Tell that to him, not to me. Why do you think men were forced to work until they die? Because things are fine and dandy?

    Replies: @Felix Keverich, @mal

    So no, i do not see below average (of median country) GDP growth as a good thing, or below average (of median country) population growth as a good thing.

    No, it really is irrelevant, because the “average country” is located in the third world, has 80 points in IQ and is not in competition with Russia economically, culturally or militarily. Their growth does not diminish Russia’s position in any way, if anything it dilutes Western control of the world’s economy and creates new demand for commodities that Russia sells.

    American obsession with growth is what caused them to import 100 million Latin Americans, but did it make their country stronger? No.

    • Replies: @Passer by
    @Felix Keverich

    Oh, its not irrelevant, because the “the third world” countries are catching up both in economically, and in IQ (IQ rises there due to Flynn effects), thus they will matter more and more. So it will be a world where other countries, but not Russia, matter more and more, while Russia matters less. Neither i, nor the russ government think that being a declining country in the world is a good thing.

    Simple example - Russia's decline causes problems for the country, maybe you don't care about the russian people, but i do, for example men had to be forced to work near death because of the demographic problems of the country. I do not see this as a good thing, and neither the russian people.


    if anything it dilutes Western control of the world’s economy
     
    This is a point i often made. I see a world where both Russia and the West are declining. But the increase in non-western countries power gives Russia additional chances, and ultimately leads to multipolarity.


    American obsession with growth is what caused you to import
     
    I have noticed that "smart" people in pro-russ places often call the other person american when they don't agree about something. I'm actually from EE and have symhaties towards Russia. You are not a stupid person, but i suggest you shape up, or check my comments to see my positions if you have questions.

    to import 100 million Latin Americans
     
    That changed.

    The largest (and growing) share in new immigrants in the US is now Asian, and they have higher SAT scores and incomes than white americans. This will be propping up the US economy and science. Thus old assumptions lead to underestimation of the US.

    obsession with growth
     
    You mean Putin's obsession about growth in birth rates and in the economy? The russian government does not agree with you. It says that the demographic situation is bad, and that economic growth is low too. I agree with the russian government assessment.

    Replies: @Felix Keverich

  153. mal says:
    @Insomniac Resurrected
    @mal


    Depopulation would be a disaster for the elites as they are the ones who own all the robots and factories etc. They would find themselves redundant. No people means no political power. Squirrels don’t care what Schwab-Gates think about, only people do.
     
    Your post is informed by the consumerist/capitalist paradigm. But what if you switch the paradigm? You can totally reprogram society.

    Imagine 3D printers making anything on demand. You don't need the population of consumers of factory made goods. Money may disappear. People could be grown in labs. If you factor in every variable, you can imagine a society vastly different from what it is now.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @mal, @A123

    Sure, but who is going to provide political power to our current overlords? Political power, like status, is a zero sum game.

    In the very near future the following scenario will take place.

    In a Davos bath house, Soros, Habsburg, Fink, Super Intelligent AI, and genetically engineered cyborg are sharing a bath.

    Soros: Cyborg, fetch me a towel!.

    Cyborg: Make me. You and what army?

    Soros: Me and 4 billion transgender Nigerians.

    Cyborg: Yes master.

    But in a depopulated world, current overlords become the bottom of the barrel. They will be easily surpassed by advanced tech and without political power they are nothing. Imagine going from ruler of the world to towel boy.

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @mal

    I strongly recommend Jack Williamson's original Humanoids science fiction, the "With Folded Hands ..." novelette (definitely avoid the novel rewrite based on what it did to the plot per Wikipedia). Be warned, it's an extreme downer.

    However this does not mean our ruling trash will be smart enough to really realize this danger to their power and status. Normalcy bias got Julius Caesar killed, can our "overlords" even conceive of not being on top, despite their manifest paranoia? When one of their tools is to try to make it impossible to say and thus even think about such things?

  154. mal says:
    @Passer by
    @Felix Keverich

    Wrong, the lion's share in GDP growth is to come from Asia. As for population growth, that is more the case, but Russia being below the average of most countries is sub-par performance that i can not approve.

    So no, i do not see below average (of median country) GDP growth as a good thing, or below average (of median country) population growth as a good thing. It means that Russia is objectively declining country, vs most other countries.


    You want to despair over this, feel free
     
    Oh, its not me, it looks like Putin is despairing, constantly crying about bad demographics. Tell that to him, not to me. Why do you think men were forced to work until they die? Because things are fine and dandy?

    Replies: @Felix Keverich, @mal

    Felix is right here. Asian population trends are so bad they make Russia look like Nigeria. Chinese run a bit late, but if Japan and S Korea are the guide, Asian prospects look grim after 2050 or so.

    It will be Planet India first, and then Planet Nigeria. Woohoo?

    The good news is space colonies should become a thing by then.

    Though Lords Resistance Army does provide cheap daycare, can’t argue with that. So there will be some benefits on Earth too.

    • Replies: @Passer by
    @mal

    Nope. Asian population overall does not have that bad prospects, rather the East Asian population. In relative terms, Asia is to see smaller population decline than Russia and huge GDP jump over Russia.

    Thus Russia is declining vis a vis Asia on both points.

    But even China is estimated to economically grow faster than Russia up to 2050, while stagnating to russian levels after that, so overall China will way be stronger in relative terms than Russia compared to today.


    It will be Planet India first, and then Planet Nigeria.
     
    India not so much, their population will start declining later in the century. For Africa i'm more bullish, there both demographics and untapped Flynn effects combine to deliver good gdp growth.
  155. @Yellowface Anon
    @Jatt Aryaa

    You just found out what a lot of anti-COVID-vaxxers know all along - mRNA tech is bunk (at least for this exact type of virus).

    Something I have been wondering is whether some or all of the defects in experimental mRNA tech affect vaccines made using well-used technologies (Sputnik V) employing the spike protein? If they are also compromised, you should think twice before taking the specific type of vaccines (while also noting that mandatory vaccines for such a low-risk disease is insensible).

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

    Something I have been wondering is whether some or all of the defects in experimental mRNA tech affect vaccines made using conventional (inactivated virus) or well-used (Sputnik V) technologies?

    “mRNA tech” is no longer experimental, the experiments like Phase I through IV having been run, inactivated (whole) virus vaccines are not as “conventional” as you think, attenuated live virus vaccines being both the very first one which gave us the name “vaccine” from Latin for “smallpox of the cow” and composing a lot of childhood vaccines, and adenovirus vector vaccines like Sputnik V are almost as novel as mRNA technology.

    But also see “subunit” vaccines like the ones for flu which use one or two surface proteins akin to the coronavirus spike protein, for COVID-19 Novavax is the furthest along but says it can’t get sufficient manufacturing capability. Russia’s second vaccine is a clever version of this concept that only presents small bits of proteins to the immune system, somewhat like how that works with cells. It’s a very discriminating technique that allows you to select exactly what you want antibodies and CD8+ T cells to target, and would also allow backup protection through targeting of the nucleocapsid protein that’s hidden inside viruses and is the #2 natural immunity target after the spike protein.

    This blog’s comment section should be a good place to ask if Gamaleya has previously fielded a adenovirus vector vaccine like Sputnik V with Ad5 and/or Ad26 adenoviruses. As in, if you don’t know this, maybe you can look it up in Russian language sources? Note also Sputnik Light, a one dose Ad26 vaccine, the first of the two in Sputnik V, same vector as Janssen’s with similar objectives and ambitions.

    Otherwise Oxford’s platform mostly from an adenovirus found in chimp feces (am not making that up) with a bit of human adenovirus DNA spliced in was a decade long grift by the strong women of the Jenner Institute, before 2020 never having being tested on more the 45 people at a time in Phase I trials. If you like conspiracies, note the coincidence of their starting a MERS coronavirus Phase I trial in mid-December 2019, although it would have been in the works for many months before then, between creating the vaccine candidate and arranging with the Saudis to do the trial there.

    And Janssen’s platform never got beyond a European based Phase III trial as one of the two jabs for their Ebola vaccine, it wasn’t the one that got a lot of use in the last African epidemic. Which is a virus vector vaccine that uses a very different platform, a replication competent RNA virus vs. a replication incompetent DNA virus (and Brazil among other things did not like Gamaleya’s data for the small fraction of one of its jabs that regained replication competence, also likely making those viruses useless for vaccination).

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
    @That Would Be Telling

    ... This is the kind of comment that'll steer the discussion over vaccines to a more "productive" (but purely medical) direction. If you can weigh advantages and potential side-effects that will be better.

    Nothing said over how the state is doing with it - which is like, 90% of the arguments over vaccination rn. But that'll be ethics, social institutions and politics, outside your field of expertise.

  156. @mal
    @Insomniac Resurrected

    Sure, but who is going to provide political power to our current overlords? Political power, like status, is a zero sum game.

    In the very near future the following scenario will take place.

    In a Davos bath house, Soros, Habsburg, Fink, Super Intelligent AI, and genetically engineered cyborg are sharing a bath.

    Soros: Cyborg, fetch me a towel!.

    Cyborg: Make me. You and what army?

    Soros: Me and 4 billion transgender Nigerians.

    Cyborg: Yes master.


    But in a depopulated world, current overlords become the bottom of the barrel. They will be easily surpassed by advanced tech and without political power they are nothing. Imagine going from ruler of the world to towel boy.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

    I strongly recommend Jack Williamson’s original Humanoids science fiction, the “With Folded Hands …” novelette (definitely avoid the novel rewrite based on what it did to the plot per Wikipedia). Be warned, it’s an extreme downer.

    However this does not mean our ruling trash will be smart enough to really realize this danger to their power and status. Normalcy bias got Julius Caesar killed, can our “overlords” even conceive of not being on top, despite their manifest paranoia? When one of their tools is to try to make it impossible to say and thus even think about such things?

    • Thanks: mal
  157. @Felix Keverich
    @Passer by


    So no, i do not see below average (of median country) GDP growth as a good thing, or below average (of median country) population growth as a good thing.
     
    No, it really is irrelevant, because the "average country" is located in the third world, has 80 points in IQ and is not in competition with Russia economically, culturally or militarily. Their growth does not diminish Russia's position in any way, if anything it dilutes Western control of the world's economy and creates new demand for commodities that Russia sells.

    American obsession with growth is what caused them to import 100 million Latin Americans, but did it make their country stronger? No.

    Replies: @Passer by

    Oh, its not irrelevant, because the “the third world” countries are catching up both in economically, and in IQ (IQ rises there due to Flynn effects), thus they will matter more and more. So it will be a world where other countries, but not Russia, matter more and more, while Russia matters less. Neither i, nor the russ government think that being a declining country in the world is a good thing.

    Simple example – Russia’s decline causes problems for the country, maybe you don’t care about the russian people, but i do, for example men had to be forced to work near death because of the demographic problems of the country. I do not see this as a good thing, and neither the russian people.

    if anything it dilutes Western control of the world’s economy

    This is a point i often made. I see a world where both Russia and the West are declining. But the increase in non-western countries power gives Russia additional chances, and ultimately leads to multipolarity.

    American obsession with growth is what caused you to import

    I have noticed that “smart” people in pro-russ places often call the other person american when they don’t agree about something. I’m actually from EE and have symhaties towards Russia. You are not a stupid person, but i suggest you shape up, or check my comments to see my positions if you have questions.

    to import 100 million Latin Americans

    That changed.

    The largest (and growing) share in new immigrants in the US is now Asian, and they have higher SAT scores and incomes than white americans. This will be propping up the US economy and science. Thus old assumptions lead to underestimation of the US.

    obsession with growth

    You mean Putin’s obsession about growth in birth rates and in the economy? The russian government does not agree with you. It says that the demographic situation is bad, and that economic growth is low too. I agree with the russian government assessment.

    • Replies: @Felix Keverich
    @Passer by


    I have noticed that “smart” people in pro-russ places often call the other person american when they don’t agree about something. I’m actually from EE and have symhaties towards Russia.
     
    Oh, come on! Russia is a picture of virility, when compared to Eastern Europe. And all these countries raised retirement age before we did. You're either trolling, or projecting your own insecurities here.

    Replies: @Passer by

  158. @Max Payne
    @Jatt Aryaa

    Hey look I found your friend:

    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8nlXco6vNtU/YLLUV6SDkRI/AAAAAAAAHRc/JdBQqH1lpwAgC4eJ9ZcxxnpVnX78OY24wCLcBGAsYHQ/s382/friend.gif

    Replies: @Morton's toes

    Notice there isn’t anybody else in the gym when he is making this video.

    I wonder if there are any other Adam Sinecki / Bioneer followers here.

    1. His new book is good enough to blast through in two sittings.

    2. He recently quit his day-job and is doing the fitness guru schtick full time so congratulations to him.

    3. Unlike Elon Musk and Peter Thiel and the rest of the autistic contingent he presents practical data on becoming transhumanist ubermensch now or within a few months. See for example here:

    https://www.thebioneer.com/cyberpunk-and-transhuman-technologies-you-can-try-right-now-or-very-soon/

    • Thanks: Bashibuzuk
  159. Just released interview with Konstantin Kilimnik:

  160. @mal
    @Passer by

    Felix is right here. Asian population trends are so bad they make Russia look like Nigeria. Chinese run a bit late, but if Japan and S Korea are the guide, Asian prospects look grim after 2050 or so.

    It will be Planet India first, and then Planet Nigeria. Woohoo?

    The good news is space colonies should become a thing by then.

    Though Lords Resistance Army does provide cheap daycare, can't argue with that. So there will be some benefits on Earth too.

    Replies: @Passer by

    Nope. Asian population overall does not have that bad prospects, rather the East Asian population. In relative terms, Asia is to see smaller population decline than Russia and huge GDP jump over Russia.

    Thus Russia is declining vis a vis Asia on both points.

    But even China is estimated to economically grow faster than Russia up to 2050, while stagnating to russian levels after that, so overall China will way be stronger in relative terms than Russia compared to today.

    It will be Planet India first, and then Planet Nigeria.

    India not so much, their population will start declining later in the century. For Africa i’m more bullish, there both demographics and untapped Flynn effects combine to deliver good gdp growth.

  161. @Passer by
    @Felix Keverich

    Oh, its not irrelevant, because the “the third world” countries are catching up both in economically, and in IQ (IQ rises there due to Flynn effects), thus they will matter more and more. So it will be a world where other countries, but not Russia, matter more and more, while Russia matters less. Neither i, nor the russ government think that being a declining country in the world is a good thing.

    Simple example - Russia's decline causes problems for the country, maybe you don't care about the russian people, but i do, for example men had to be forced to work near death because of the demographic problems of the country. I do not see this as a good thing, and neither the russian people.


    if anything it dilutes Western control of the world’s economy
     
    This is a point i often made. I see a world where both Russia and the West are declining. But the increase in non-western countries power gives Russia additional chances, and ultimately leads to multipolarity.


    American obsession with growth is what caused you to import
     
    I have noticed that "smart" people in pro-russ places often call the other person american when they don't agree about something. I'm actually from EE and have symhaties towards Russia. You are not a stupid person, but i suggest you shape up, or check my comments to see my positions if you have questions.

    to import 100 million Latin Americans
     
    That changed.

    The largest (and growing) share in new immigrants in the US is now Asian, and they have higher SAT scores and incomes than white americans. This will be propping up the US economy and science. Thus old assumptions lead to underestimation of the US.

    obsession with growth
     
    You mean Putin's obsession about growth in birth rates and in the economy? The russian government does not agree with you. It says that the demographic situation is bad, and that economic growth is low too. I agree with the russian government assessment.

    Replies: @Felix Keverich

    I have noticed that “smart” people in pro-russ places often call the other person american when they don’t agree about something. I’m actually from EE and have symhaties towards Russia.

    Oh, come on! Russia is a picture of virility, when compared to Eastern Europe. And all these countries raised retirement age before we did. You’re either trolling, or projecting your own insecurities here.

    • Replies: @Passer by
    @Felix Keverich


    Oh, come on! Russia is a picture of virility, when compared to Eastern Europe
     
    Its not, actually. Currently TFR in Russia is similar to the average in EE - about 1,5. Ethnic russian is lower than that - about 1,42.

    I have often noticed rosy assessments by some russians over EE demographic issues, but that actually depends on country. For example Balts are often called vaimirati - dying places, but Estonia managed to stabilise its population and stop its decline. Georgia, meanwhile, has the highest fertility in Europe.

    Some EE countries are in bad demographic position - Ukraine, Belarus (in Union State with Russia), Serbia (friendly to Russia), Bulgaria, Croatia, Latvia, Lithuania.

    But some managed to stabilise their population - Estonia, Georgia, Poland, Slovakia, Slovenia, Macedonia, Czech Republic.

    So it is a mixed picture - some currently have better demographics than Russia, some worse.


    And all these countries raised retirement age
     
    Actually even in EE men overall have more time after pension than in Russia. So yes, i see this as a problem. So do the russian people.

    You’re either trolling, or projecting your own insecurities here.
     
    Whose insecurities, though? The russian government insecurities? If you think that they have insecurities for thinking that the demographic situation is "extraordinary" and birth rates need to be raised, or that economic growth is low, you can always complain to them and tell them how insecure they are.
  162. @That Would Be Telling
    @Jatt Aryaa


    There is unpublished evidence....
     
    Given how very easy it is to publish a preprint this is very close to Dr. Bridle and his colleagues saying "we're lying." I'm definitely suspicious of free in the blood stream wild type (WT) spike proteins being pathogenic and that suggests the (AZ/)Oxford strong women vaccine should be avoided, and Sputnik V as well if as rumored is too does not stabilize its spike protein. Note there's an alternative hypothesis pertaining to accurate production of whole and correct spike proteins that suspected for the adenovirus vector vaccines, which also include Janssen's, as well as concerns from various sources some or many of these vaccines don't get sufficiently purified.

    But not all spike proteins are created alike, a line of research going back to a disastrous crude inactivated whole virus vaccine in the 1960s resulted in some researchers at the NIH by that point in 2017 figuring out how to stabilize SARS type coronavirus spike proteins into the "prefusion" configuration, that is as our Jack D. put it, "adding some molecular twist ties" so it can't fuse with ACE2 receptors. That doesn't rule out these spike proteins being pathogenic, I'm guessing they still have some ability to bind to ACE2 without then continuing the process, but this profound difference needs to be considered when looking at data sets of adverse events. Note also Janssen's stabilization goes beyond the 2P "twist ties."

    It's also a red herring to note "[...] the mRNA does not remain localized in the injection site of the shoulder muscle." if the posited issue is free spike proteins in the bloodstream as is implied by several of the concerns expressed. Their mRNA sequences do like the WT versions instruct cells to send them to the surface of the cells, where they could do some damage, and through various mechanisms some get free, but you'd need to see for example exactly what the blood brain barrier allows through especially in terms of cells. I'd assume at least some components of the immune system can cross for the obvious reasons, but there's a huge range of them. And ending with:

    This has serious implications for people whom SARS CoV-2 is not a high risk pathogen which includes youth. This has risk of rendering some people infertile.
     
    Is not thinking straight about the whole picture of disease vs. vaccines, as well as confounding mortality ("low risk") with morbidity. In what circumstances would a vaccine be worse than a superficially mild but still relatively uncontrolled infection with the wild type virus, which is going to pump a lot of wild type spike proteins in their blood stream? As the claim acknowledges, the option of not having one or the other is not on the table, there are no risk free options.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon

    Is not thinking straight about the whole picture of disease vs. vaccines, as well as confounding mortality (“low risk”) with morbidity. In what circumstances would a vaccine be worse than a superficially mild but still relatively uncontrolled infection with the wild type virus, which is going to pump a lot of wild type spike proteins in their blood stream? As the claim acknowledges, the option of not having one or the other is not on the table, there are no risk free options.

    Indeed that will be a possible scenario with a natural infection. But you should’ve known how unlikely it is for young people who suffer from COVID, vis-a-vis the near-certainty (if Dr. Bridle and his/her team are proven correct) of hemorrhages.

    The risk calculation of natural immunity vs vaccine-induced immunity should really be up to each one thinking of vaccination at the margin (those whose risk from vaccination is comparable/might exceed natural infection) to decide. Adding state compulsion on top of this is divisive and alienates many from whatever institutions that buys into the vaccination drive.

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @Yellowface Anon


    Indeed that will be a possible scenario with a natural infection. But you should’ve known how unlikely it is for young people who suffer from COVID, vis-a-vis the near-certainty (if Dr. Bridle and his/her team are proven correct) of hemorrhages.
     
    You're confounding clotting disorders with hemorrhages per se, unless you've listened to Dr. Brigle's video and have learned more than the claim "The USA adverse event database shows evidence of suckling infants suffering from bleeding disorders in the gastrointestinal tract." Which is pretty easy to falsify, it's got a good interface for retrieving 10,000 or less reports at a time, a good tutorial for using that, start here.

    Your second paragraph is of course a strong but debatable point, you're again not considering disease morbidity while highlighting possible vaccine morbidity, and of course herd immunity unless for example you've decided it's extremely unlikely the US will reach that, which is the way to bet as of now.

    I also don't consider herd immunity to be a major issue prior to our finding out how well variants of concern escape natural and vaccine immunity to "classic coronavirus." Early indications including some real world Phase III vaccine testing in South Africa are encouraging for avoiding "moderate to severe" disease except for AZ/Oxford, but that of course is not "sterilizing" immunity for those who get (re-)infected. We're only at the beginning of this second or so round with the virus (one might consider the British B.1.1.7 variant with its much greater transmissibility to be round two).

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon

  163. @That Would Be Telling
    @Yellowface Anon


    Something I have been wondering is whether some or all of the defects in experimental mRNA tech affect vaccines made using conventional (inactivated virus) or well-used (Sputnik V) technologies?
     
    "mRNA tech" is no longer experimental, the experiments like Phase I through IV having been run, inactivated (whole) virus vaccines are not as "conventional" as you think, attenuated live virus vaccines being both the very first one which gave us the name "vaccine" from Latin for "smallpox of the cow" and composing a lot of childhood vaccines, and adenovirus vector vaccines like Sputnik V are almost as novel as mRNA technology.

    But also see "subunit" vaccines like the ones for flu which use one or two surface proteins akin to the coronavirus spike protein, for COVID-19 Novavax is the furthest along but says it can't get sufficient manufacturing capability. Russia's second vaccine is a clever version of this concept that only presents small bits of proteins to the immune system, somewhat like how that works with cells. It's a very discriminating technique that allows you to select exactly what you want antibodies and CD8+ T cells to target, and would also allow backup protection through targeting of the nucleocapsid protein that's hidden inside viruses and is the #2 natural immunity target after the spike protein.

    This blog's comment section should be a good place to ask if Gamaleya has previously fielded a adenovirus vector vaccine like Sputnik V with Ad5 and/or Ad26 adenoviruses. As in, if you don't know this, maybe you can look it up in Russian language sources? Note also Sputnik Light, a one dose Ad26 vaccine, the first of the two in Sputnik V, same vector as Janssen's with similar objectives and ambitions.

    Otherwise Oxford's platform mostly from an adenovirus found in chimp feces (am not making that up) with a bit of human adenovirus DNA spliced in was a decade long grift by the strong women of the Jenner Institute, before 2020 never having being tested on more the 45 people at a time in Phase I trials. If you like conspiracies, note the coincidence of their starting a MERS coronavirus Phase I trial in mid-December 2019, although it would have been in the works for many months before then, between creating the vaccine candidate and arranging with the Saudis to do the trial there.

    And Janssen's platform never got beyond a European based Phase III trial as one of the two jabs for their Ebola vaccine, it wasn't the one that got a lot of use in the last African epidemic. Which is a virus vector vaccine that uses a very different platform, a replication competent RNA virus vs. a replication incompetent DNA virus (and Brazil among other things did not like Gamaleya's data for the small fraction of one of its jabs that regained replication competence, also likely making those viruses useless for vaccination).

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon

    … This is the kind of comment that’ll steer the discussion over vaccines to a more “productive” (but purely medical) direction. If you can weigh advantages and potential side-effects that will be better.

    Nothing said over how the state is doing with it – which is like, 90% of the arguments over vaccination rn. But that’ll be ethics, social institutions and politics, outside your field of expertise.

  164. @Felix Keverich
    @Passer by


    I have noticed that “smart” people in pro-russ places often call the other person american when they don’t agree about something. I’m actually from EE and have symhaties towards Russia.
     
    Oh, come on! Russia is a picture of virility, when compared to Eastern Europe. And all these countries raised retirement age before we did. You're either trolling, or projecting your own insecurities here.

    Replies: @Passer by

    Oh, come on! Russia is a picture of virility, when compared to Eastern Europe

    Its not, actually. Currently TFR in Russia is similar to the average in EE – about 1,5. Ethnic russian is lower than that – about 1,42.

    I have often noticed rosy assessments by some russians over EE demographic issues, but that actually depends on country. For example Balts are often called vaimirati – dying places, but Estonia managed to stabilise its population and stop its decline. Georgia, meanwhile, has the highest fertility in Europe.

    Some EE countries are in bad demographic position – Ukraine, Belarus (in Union State with Russia), Serbia (friendly to Russia), Bulgaria, Croatia, Latvia, Lithuania.

    But some managed to stabilise their population – Estonia, Georgia, Poland, Slovakia, Slovenia, Macedonia, Czech Republic.

    So it is a mixed picture – some currently have better demographics than Russia, some worse.

    And all these countries raised retirement age

    Actually even in EE men overall have more time after pension than in Russia. So yes, i see this as a problem. So do the russian people.

    You’re either trolling, or projecting your own insecurities here.

    Whose insecurities, though? The russian government insecurities? If you think that they have insecurities for thinking that the demographic situation is “extraordinary” and birth rates need to be raised, or that economic growth is low, you can always complain to them and tell them how insecure they are.

  165. @Yellowface Anon
    @That Would Be Telling


    Is not thinking straight about the whole picture of disease vs. vaccines, as well as confounding mortality (“low risk”) with morbidity. In what circumstances would a vaccine be worse than a superficially mild but still relatively uncontrolled infection with the wild type virus, which is going to pump a lot of wild type spike proteins in their blood stream? As the claim acknowledges, the option of not having one or the other is not on the table, there are no risk free options.
     
    Indeed that will be a possible scenario with a natural infection. But you should've known how unlikely it is for young people who suffer from COVID, vis-a-vis the near-certainty (if Dr. Bridle and his/her team are proven correct) of hemorrhages.

    The risk calculation of natural immunity vs vaccine-induced immunity should really be up to each one thinking of vaccination at the margin (those whose risk from vaccination is comparable/might exceed natural infection) to decide. Adding state compulsion on top of this is divisive and alienates many from whatever institutions that buys into the vaccination drive.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

    Indeed that will be a possible scenario with a natural infection. But you should’ve known how unlikely it is for young people who suffer from COVID, vis-a-vis the near-certainty (if Dr. Bridle and his/her team are proven correct) of hemorrhages.

    You’re confounding clotting disorders with hemorrhages per se, unless you’ve listened to Dr. Brigle’s video and have learned more than the claim “The USA adverse event database shows evidence of suckling infants suffering from bleeding disorders in the gastrointestinal tract.” Which is pretty easy to falsify, it’s got a good interface for retrieving 10,000 or less reports at a time, a good tutorial for using that, start here.

    Your second paragraph is of course a strong but debatable point, you’re again not considering disease morbidity while highlighting possible vaccine morbidity, and of course herd immunity unless for example you’ve decided it’s extremely unlikely the US will reach that, which is the way to bet as of now.

    I also don’t consider herd immunity to be a major issue prior to our finding out how well variants of concern escape natural and vaccine immunity to “classic coronavirus.” Early indications including some real world Phase III vaccine testing in South Africa are encouraging for avoiding “moderate to severe” disease except for AZ/Oxford, but that of course is not “sterilizing” immunity for those who get (re-)infected. We’re only at the beginning of this second or so round with the virus (one might consider the British B.1.1.7 variant with its much greater transmissibility to be round two).

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
    @That Would Be Telling

    Do you realize I stopped talking about medicine in the 2nd part and started talking personal ideology and politics?

  166. Bashibuzuk says:

    An embarrassing topic surfaced in the spacefaring, nuclear and supposedly high-tech RusFed. The company Domestos which is specialized in repairs and upgrades to the toilets and bathrooms, has started an online contest for the worse RusFed school bathroom promising to repair the “winners”, that is the worst ones, for free.

    The contest has revealed shocking cases of disrepair and degradation in some hinterland schools that would actually seem more fitting in a third world country:

    https://www.promonado.ru/domestos-schools/#winners

    I often write here about RusFed hinterland = the so-called glubinka being a completely different country compared to Moscow. This is one of striking examples of these differences. Notice that some of these horrific pictures have been taken in mid-sized towns and not in some Siberian backcountry.

    https://www.newsru.com/russia/29may2021/toilets.html

    Interestingly, the “winner” toilet was found in a school which served as a polling station for the Constitution Amendments referendum that offered Putin a potential lifetime presidency with more than 90% of local people supposedly voting to support the amendments.

    It’s actually kinda sad…

    • Troll: Anatoly Karlin
    • Replies: @Svevlad
    @Bashibuzuk

    honestly, most of these aren't too bad - they remind me of my old high school which is one of the more prestigious ones (even above some gymnasiums) - though, no surprise, the building is ancient by Belgrade standards

    , @silviosilver
    @Bashibuzuk

    I'm afraid to even click on those links. I've seen youtubes of Russian hospitals compared to Indian/African hospitals, and hot damn, it's scary. Obviously the worst of the worst, rather than the average, were being shown, but still, that hospitals like that should exist at all is very disheartening. (Not to pick on Russia; I'm sure one could find even worse in the balkans.)

    Replies: @Svevlad

    , @Anatoly Karlin
    @Bashibuzuk

    You should stick to commenting on shithouses, one topic on which I assume your expertise is unrivaled.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

  167. @Bashibuzuk
    An embarrassing topic surfaced in the spacefaring, nuclear and supposedly high-tech RusFed. The company Domestos which is specialized in repairs and upgrades to the toilets and bathrooms, has started an online contest for the worse RusFed school bathroom promising to repair the "winners", that is the worst ones, for free.

    The contest has revealed shocking cases of disrepair and degradation in some hinterland schools that would actually seem more fitting in a third world country:

    https://www.promonado.ru/domestos-schools/#winners

    I often write here about RusFed hinterland = the so-called glubinka being a completely different country compared to Moscow. This is one of striking examples of these differences. Notice that some of these horrific pictures have been taken in mid-sized towns and not in some Siberian backcountry.

    https://www.newsru.com/russia/29may2021/toilets.html

    Interestingly, the "winner" toilet was found in a school which served as a polling station for the Constitution Amendments referendum that offered Putin a potential lifetime presidency with more than 90% of local people supposedly voting to support the amendments.

    It's actually kinda sad...

    Replies: @Svevlad, @silviosilver, @Anatoly Karlin

    honestly, most of these aren’t too bad – they remind me of my old high school which is one of the more prestigious ones (even above some gymnasiums) – though, no surprise, the building is ancient by Belgrade standards

  168. @Bashibuzuk
    @Svevlad


    The violence of the Indo-European invasions of Europe
     
    Yamnaya did not invade, Bell Beaker did. Neither were Indo-European.

    natives were a bunch of peacenik hippies
     
    Old Europe is different things to different people. The concluding period of the Linear Band Ceramics (LBC) culture coincided with massive manslaughter and cannibalism.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herxheim_(archaeological_site)

    Later Megalithic Culture people were probably more sane as a societal organization. But given that they prevailed against the LBC homicidal cannibal psychopaths and replaced them in the Western part of Europe, the Megalithic Culture folks were probably not peaceful tree-huggers. Same thing for the Corded Ware who replaced the LBC in the Central and Eastern Europe.

    Replies: @Svevlad

    So, which ones were the Indo-Europeans then?

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Svevlad

    Basically, we now know that Andronovo Culture with Arkaim Sintashta type of tribal organization were most probably the ancestors of both Vedic and Avestan Aryans. That is, they were the direct ancestors of all Indo-Iranian populations.

    The Arkaim Sintashta folks were an offshoot of Corded Ware people and had also a genetic connection with the late stages of Tripolye-Cucuteni culture, which was the most advanced European civilization of its times.

    That would point to either Corded Ware or Tripolye, or both being perhaps proto-Indo European (PIE). Although it is far from being certain.

    It looks like the PIE only became a lingua franca, a kind of koine in Central Europe at the time of Unetice Culture and Nordic Bronze Age. Unetice occupied Central Europe around the same time that Sintashta Arkaim people ruled the Central Asian steppes and dominated southern Siberia.

    Unetice was basically produced by a population that had both Corded Ware females and Eastern Bell Beaker males as ancestors with some remaining Megalithic Culture male lineages thrown in. It might have been the culture that somewhat unified Europe, produced the bases of the the European Paganism and later on served as the foundation for the evolution of Italo-Celtic, Germanic and Balto-Slavic branches of the European people. Perhaps at that time someone could travel from today's France to today's India, Iran and China while finding mutually intelligible IE dialects along the way.

    Of course we have no way of 100% ascertain this because these people had no writing.

  169. @Bashibuzuk
    An embarrassing topic surfaced in the spacefaring, nuclear and supposedly high-tech RusFed. The company Domestos which is specialized in repairs and upgrades to the toilets and bathrooms, has started an online contest for the worse RusFed school bathroom promising to repair the "winners", that is the worst ones, for free.

    The contest has revealed shocking cases of disrepair and degradation in some hinterland schools that would actually seem more fitting in a third world country:

    https://www.promonado.ru/domestos-schools/#winners

    I often write here about RusFed hinterland = the so-called glubinka being a completely different country compared to Moscow. This is one of striking examples of these differences. Notice that some of these horrific pictures have been taken in mid-sized towns and not in some Siberian backcountry.

    https://www.newsru.com/russia/29may2021/toilets.html

    Interestingly, the "winner" toilet was found in a school which served as a polling station for the Constitution Amendments referendum that offered Putin a potential lifetime presidency with more than 90% of local people supposedly voting to support the amendments.

    It's actually kinda sad...

    Replies: @Svevlad, @silviosilver, @Anatoly Karlin

    I’m afraid to even click on those links. I’ve seen youtubes of Russian hospitals compared to Indian/African hospitals, and hot damn, it’s scary. Obviously the worst of the worst, rather than the average, were being shown, but still, that hospitals like that should exist at all is very disheartening. (Not to pick on Russia; I’m sure one could find even worse in the balkans.)

    • Agree: Bashibuzuk
    • Replies: @Svevlad
    @silviosilver

    Haha, if you want to immediately become suicidal, look at the Belgrade mental hospital

    Replies: @silviosilver

  170. Bashibuzuk says:
    @Svevlad
    @Bashibuzuk

    So, which ones were the Indo-Europeans then?

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    Basically, we now know that Andronovo Culture with Arkaim Sintashta type of tribal organization were most probably the ancestors of both Vedic and Avestan Aryans. That is, they were the direct ancestors of all Indo-Iranian populations.

    The Arkaim Sintashta folks were an offshoot of Corded Ware people and had also a genetic connection with the late stages of Tripolye-Cucuteni culture, which was the most advanced European civilization of its times.

    That would point to either Corded Ware or Tripolye, or both being perhaps proto-Indo European (PIE). Although it is far from being certain.

    It looks like the PIE only became a lingua franca, a kind of koine in Central Europe at the time of Unetice Culture and Nordic Bronze Age. Unetice occupied Central Europe around the same time that Sintashta Arkaim people ruled the Central Asian steppes and dominated southern Siberia.

    Unetice was basically produced by a population that had both Corded Ware females and Eastern Bell Beaker males as ancestors with some remaining Megalithic Culture male lineages thrown in. It might have been the culture that somewhat unified Europe, produced the bases of the the European Paganism and later on served as the foundation for the evolution of Italo-Celtic, Germanic and Balto-Slavic branches of the European people. Perhaps at that time someone could travel from today’s France to today’s India, Iran and China while finding mutually intelligible IE dialects along the way.

    Of course we have no way of 100% ascertain this because these people had no writing.

  171. @silviosilver
    @Bashibuzuk

    I'm afraid to even click on those links. I've seen youtubes of Russian hospitals compared to Indian/African hospitals, and hot damn, it's scary. Obviously the worst of the worst, rather than the average, were being shown, but still, that hospitals like that should exist at all is very disheartening. (Not to pick on Russia; I'm sure one could find even worse in the balkans.)

    Replies: @Svevlad

    Haha, if you want to immediately become suicidal, look at the Belgrade mental hospital

    • Replies: @silviosilver
    @Svevlad

    I dare not. I have no stomach for those scenes.

    Going back to the toilet thing, if the EU made the state of public restrooms a criterion for accession, they wouldn't touch the Balkans with a barge pole. The stench and the filth I've witnessed there, how is that even possible?

    Replies: @TheTotallyAnonymous, @Matra

  172. A123 says:
    @Insomniac Resurrected
    @mal


    Depopulation would be a disaster for the elites as they are the ones who own all the robots and factories etc. They would find themselves redundant. No people means no political power. Squirrels don’t care what Schwab-Gates think about, only people do.
     
    Your post is informed by the consumerist/capitalist paradigm. But what if you switch the paradigm? You can totally reprogram society.

    Imagine 3D printers making anything on demand. You don't need the population of consumers of factory made goods. Money may disappear. People could be grown in labs. If you factor in every variable, you can imagine a society vastly different from what it is now.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @mal, @A123

    Imagine 3D printers making anything on demand. You don’t need the population of consumers of factory made goods. Money may disappear.

    Some things would remain scarce. Desirable building locations with scenic vistas. Seats for performances such as concerts. There would still be an allocation method for these things, presumably monetary.

    Society would be very different if basic family needs (food, shelter, education, medical) could be met by one parent working 20 hours a week.
    _____

    There have been some science fiction short stories where the “right to work” was rationed to a limited # of hours per week. If work gives value to life, then each person needs to have the opportunity to work.

    A specific title/author does not immediately spring to mind, but some one else may have hit a story like this more recently.

    PEACE 😇

  173. Bashibuzuk says:

    An up-to-date interpretation of the 56 most transparent Xiongnu etymologies (Dybo 2007, 2014) shows that the lexicon of written history is partly Turkic and partly Eastern Iranian in origin. The two lexical strata are distributed differently in chronology and semantics: Eastern Iranian occurs in earlier – mostly Western Han – sources and refer almost entirely to titles and terms of dairy products, whereas Turkic words occur in both early and late sources, and show a wider semantic reach. Isolated Tocharian and Mongolic forms may have been present, but these etymologies are the least transparent part of the Xiongnu vocabulary (Savelyev & Jeong 2020).

    NOTE. Puleleyblank (1062) & Vovin (2000, 2002, 2016) assume that the empire had a Yeniseian core tribal elite, which ruled over various Iranian and Altaic (Turco-Mongol) groups (Brosseder 2018), but they assessed mostly personal names, which allow for a broad range of interpretations. In fact, the most plausible ones may be part of shared cultural vocabulary of non-native origin in either Xiongnu or Yeniseian (Savelyev & Jeong 2020).

    [….]

    The Dingling (2nd-1st c. BC) are frequently mentioned as the first people with a reliable Turkic ethnonym to appear in proto-history (see below). They were brought by force into the Xiongnu union and remained recalcitrant vassals of the Xiongnu of the Altai (the later Huns of Central Asia and Europe) some time during the so-called two-hundred-year gap (ca. AD 2nd-4th c.). They are probably to be identified as (Pre-)Proto-Oghuric Turks neighbouring the Kangju to the north – in northern and central Kazakhstan – like the succeeding and likely hononymous Tiele (Brosseder 2018).

    They were probably ruled by an elite called the Asiani/Asi (Yuezhi confederacy), possessing state level organization. The Dingling/Tiele were largely in possession of the Kazakh steppes by AD 350, supplanting Iranian nomads in the region, before spreading west into the north Pontic steppes (after AD 460).

    https://indo-european.eu/2021/05/proto-turkic-homeland/

    Another excellent work by Carlos Quiles.

    I am glad to see that I have come to the same conclusions on my own.

    Also, to make the things even more interesting and mysterious add this bit of information:

    The Rishikas (also Rshika and Ṛṣika) was an ancient Kingdom of Central Asia and South Asia, who are mentioned in Hindu and Sanskrit literary texts, including the Mahabharata, the Ramayana, the Brhat-Samhita, the Markendeya Purana and Patanjali’s Mahabhasya.[1]

    [….]

    Some scholars have proposed that the Rishikas are the Yuezhi of ancient Chinese sources,[12] or the Asii cited by the ancient Greeks.[13] J. C. Vidyalankar believes that the Rishikas are the Kushans in general (or perhaps only the dynasty founded by Kanishka).[14]

    The name “Asii” (or “Asioi” mentioned by Strabo, according to one view, alludes to their connections with horses (asva or assa). Based on the earlier information from Megasthenes’ (350-290 BC) Indica, Pliny the Elder (23–79 AD) mentions Osii (Orsi), Asoi, Aseni, Taxillae and Peucolaitae as Indian peoples living in the upper Indus valley south of the Hindu Kush.[15][16] The Taxillae and Peucolaitae are Gandharans of the Indian traditions while the Asoi, Osii/Orsi and Aseni appear yet other variants of the Assaceni (Aspasioi) and Assacani (Assakenoi)—the Asvayana and Asvakayana of Pāṇini and Katyayana). The Aspasios and Assakenois were notable Kamboja groups engaged in horse culture.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rishikas

    Of note ārśi-käntwā was the name the Tocharians used for their own language. Arsi / Rishika = =>> (proto) Rus coming to the Baltic shores during the Hun migration west ?

    Don’t know if Carlos Quiles will ever go that far (probably not), but in my opinion it is not impossible at all, given the description of ancient Rus as Turkic people by early Muslim travelers, and the numerous cognates between Rugian Wendish words preserved in Medieval sources and the younger of the two Tocharian dialects.

  174. “Netflix acquired the rights to show the cult Russian films Brother and Brother 2 directed by Alexei Balabanov. ”

    So now Americans will be able to watch the most racist and intolerant film in history

    “You are not my brother, black-ass nit”

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @melanf

    Maybe not.... From a Reddit discussion a Bing search found:


    BabyWookie

    The last time I saw it on Russian TV, the “I ain’t your bro, you black-ass nit.” scene was censored, replaced with something inoffensive....
     
    One wonders what'll be in the masters Netflix gets. Could not find much else Netflix getting the films in some searches, did come across some factoids: The first movie is in a list of "8 films that will help you improve your Russian" and it was banned in the Ukraine in the last decade, apparently due to unflattering depictions of Ukrainians. And not knowing of these movies, this bit from a review promises lots of fun in the sequel:

    Things take a surprising turn when Danila and his brother Viktor travel to America to avenge his friend’s death and help his twin brother - a hockey player, unceremoniously robbed by a “bad American guy”.

    In Chicago, Danila gets busy exchanging blows with African-Americans, rescuing a Russian prostitute and killing half of the city’s gangsters.
     
  175. @Svevlad
    @silviosilver

    Haha, if you want to immediately become suicidal, look at the Belgrade mental hospital

    Replies: @silviosilver

    I dare not. I have no stomach for those scenes.

    Going back to the toilet thing, if the EU made the state of public restrooms a criterion for accession, they wouldn’t touch the Balkans with a barge pole. The stench and the filth I’ve witnessed there, how is that even possible?

    • Replies: @TheTotallyAnonymous
    @silviosilver


    Going back to the toilet thing, if the EU made the state of public restrooms a criterion for accession, they wouldn’t touch the Balkans with a barge pole.
     
    Are you delusional or retarded?

    The "Western Balkans" states won't join the EU as it is anyway, and anyone who believes they seriously will has low IQ issues.

    Btw, public toilets in many EU member states really aren't in great condition either ...

    Replies: @silviosilver

    , @Matra
    @silviosilver

    Going back to the toilet thing, if the EU made the state of public restrooms a criterion for accession, they wouldn’t touch the Balkans with a barge pole. The stench and the filth I’ve witnessed there, how is that even possible?

    Based on my admittedly limited experience in the Balkans (mostly Sofia but also Belgrade) public "restrooms" (how quaintly American!) are no worse there than they are in most of the rest of Europe. You being from the Antipodes probably have higher standards in this regard than most Europeans - at least those Euros who are Gen X & older. (I recall being segregated after toilet break along with the other couple of Europeans in my NZ class and forced to wash our hands in view of the teacher as Kiwi kids were grossed out by our Old World filthiness, which, alas, extended to our habits around food as well).

    According to many polls - which I know are always considered highly reliable at this blog - like this one Western Europeans are less likely than Easterners to wash their hands with soap (or even water) after using the toilet. I'm not at all surprised to see the Dutch as the worst offenders as most of the bars I've been in there don't even bother with a sink & water tap in their men's rooms.

    Replies: @Znzn

  176. @Bashibuzuk
    An embarrassing topic surfaced in the spacefaring, nuclear and supposedly high-tech RusFed. The company Domestos which is specialized in repairs and upgrades to the toilets and bathrooms, has started an online contest for the worse RusFed school bathroom promising to repair the "winners", that is the worst ones, for free.

    The contest has revealed shocking cases of disrepair and degradation in some hinterland schools that would actually seem more fitting in a third world country:

    https://www.promonado.ru/domestos-schools/#winners

    I often write here about RusFed hinterland = the so-called glubinka being a completely different country compared to Moscow. This is one of striking examples of these differences. Notice that some of these horrific pictures have been taken in mid-sized towns and not in some Siberian backcountry.

    https://www.newsru.com/russia/29may2021/toilets.html

    Interestingly, the "winner" toilet was found in a school which served as a polling station for the Constitution Amendments referendum that offered Putin a potential lifetime presidency with more than 90% of local people supposedly voting to support the amendments.

    It's actually kinda sad...

    Replies: @Svevlad, @silviosilver, @Anatoly Karlin

    You should stick to commenting on shithouses, one topic on which I assume your expertise is unrivaled.

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Your reaction is of course quite predictable, Tolik.

    I guess it comes as an easy way to deride someone who has demonstrated that your supposedly mighty "space - atomic" RusFed is unable to even build decent hygienic amenities for all of its children.

    But of course, all RusFed kids are not created equal. Some truly enjoy the largesse of Putinomics, while others are left to live in République démocratique du Congo like conditions:

    https://newtimes.ru/articles/detail/116441/

    As the saying goes: Всё лучшее детям!

    After all, in less than a single generation, RusFed has achieved the champion status in the social inequality as demonstrated by its Gini coefficient.

    We get to joyfully proclaim: Спасибо Путину за это!

    Speaking of thanking Putin and his mouthpieces, don't forget to say hello to Simonyan and Kholmogorov on my behalf, buddy!

    https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/zhiriak/29533320/127322/127322_original.jpg

    https://pioneer-lj.livejournal.com/1826275.html

    🙂

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin, @Mr. Hack

  177. @melanf
    “Netflix acquired the rights to show the cult Russian films Brother and Brother 2 directed by Alexei Balabanov. ”

    So now Americans will be able to watch the most racist and intolerant film in history

    “You are not my brother, black-ass nit”
    https://static.web2ua.com/positive/2020/05/11/bolshie-goroda-danily-bagrova-20-let-naza-2.jpeg

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

    Maybe not…. From a Reddit discussion a Bing search found:

    BabyWookie

    The last time I saw it on Russian TV, the “I ain’t your bro, you black-ass nit.” scene was censored, replaced with something inoffensive….

    One wonders what’ll be in the masters Netflix gets. Could not find much else Netflix getting the films in some searches, did come across some factoids: The first movie is in a list of “8 films that will help you improve your Russian” and it was banned in the Ukraine in the last decade, apparently due to unflattering depictions of Ukrainians. And not knowing of these movies, this bit from a review promises lots of fun in the sequel:

    Things take a surprising turn when Danila and his brother Viktor travel to America to avenge his friend’s death and help his twin brother – a hockey player, unceremoniously robbed by a “bad American guy”.

    In Chicago, Danila gets busy exchanging blows with African-Americans, rescuing a Russian prostitute and killing half of the city’s gangsters.

  178. Bashibuzuk says:
    @Anatoly Karlin
    @Bashibuzuk

    You should stick to commenting on shithouses, one topic on which I assume your expertise is unrivaled.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    Your reaction is of course quite predictable, Tolik.

    I guess it comes as an easy way to deride someone who has demonstrated that your supposedly mighty “space – atomic” RusFed is unable to even build decent hygienic amenities for all of its children.

    But of course, all RusFed kids are not created equal. Some truly enjoy the largesse of Putinomics, while others are left to live in République démocratique du Congo like conditions:

    https://newtimes.ru/articles/detail/116441/

    As the saying goes: Всё лучшее детям!

    After all, in less than a single generation, RusFed has achieved the champion status in the social inequality as demonstrated by its Gini coefficient.

    We get to joyfully proclaim: Спасибо Путину за это!

    Speaking of thanking Putin and his mouthpieces, don’t forget to say hello to Simonyan and Kholmogorov on my behalf, buddy!

    https://pioneer-lj.livejournal.com/1826275.html

    🙂

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
    @Bashibuzuk

    Project explicitly meant to select for shitty shithouses finds a few shitty shithouses. / *surprise pikachu*

    Though in fairness, many morons with no critical faculties or sense for statistics, RFERL and the like had an entire campaign about Russians lacking toilet facilities a couple of years ago. https://twitter.com/27khv/status/1163515173547761666

    However, your choice of which propaganda tropes to parrot is highly telling about your true agenda here.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    , @Mr. Hack
    @Bashibuzuk

    You're moving around at the speed of light Bashi, moving from comparative studies about outhouses (Gini studies?) to the supposed sins of Kholmogorov, I suspect pointing to him being a Putinbot shill?
    Slow down a bit and let us all in on the news! :-)

    https://sun9-51.userapi.com/impg/rmd3OSnXrATFAEvbMVkxP8PSegHThuwDCzIxww/oC2T7yhJqek.jpg?size=1372x1688&quality=96&sign=621f2f2718629b2fbea0e79eb9070b08

    A pretty cool cartoon!

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

  179. Recently read The Future in America by HG Wells. (1906). Mostly word salad – do not recommend, but what really fascinated me was the chapter on immigration. Wells comes across as fairly based on immigration.

    [MORE]

    He laughs at the idea of some fool thinking that Sicilians come from the same peninsula as Florentines (and therefore would be the same people). He notes that Jews are unassimilable and tells of seeing some special school of Jewish kids being taught to offer lip-service loyalty to the flag.

    He envisions a ruling caste of blue-eyed, light haired Western Europeans, who will lord over the darker eyed and darker haired Southern and Eastern Europeans, and the Jews, then coming in. (not sure whether to read this in a racial context or not – but that is actually what he said. Could be explained economically, maybe?)

    He worries about America being swamped. Encounters unconcerned citizens on the streets. Says that there is still a chance that they could pause immigration.

    Pretty surprising, given his natural communist bent and desire for world government. In the same book, he has a really pozzed chapter on blacks, in which he says something like American blacks are closer in blood to Englishmen than Russians (I forget the exact construction), but he invokes the fact that they probably have blood from the Norman Conquest. Though elsewhere in the book, he amusingly laments some labor leader being thrown in a jail full of negroes and half-bloods.

    He notes that the federal income tax had been rejected by the Supreme Court, and says that Constitutional processes make it impossible to pass it short of revolution. Actually, it passed just three years later.

    States’ rights really rub him the wrong way. In particular, he says something about education, which reminded me of the horrible documentary which is loved by progressives Waiting for Superman (2010) which showed the same instinct of hating local education systems.

    Despite being a communist, it is evident that he had a sort of crush on the US (not unalloyed or rose-tinted). But he notes the planning around major cities like NYC and Boston, the building of a system of parks, and great constructions like the Brooklyn Bridge and calls it a form of socialism. I think that before the global Left hated America, it loved it, somewhat reluctantly, because of the scale. Very much an analogy to their recent (and already in the past) crush on China.

    • Replies: @Svevlad
    @songbird

    American culture revolves around... Well you already probably know how it goes.

    It's this weird artefact of their western autism. Blacks are begrudgingly accepted, but god forbid slavs and italians exist.

    The most ridiculous yet realistic work portraying this is the alternate-history story "What Madness is This" where the US is slowly transformed into what is basically a weird christian wahhabi ultranationalist regime with a gargantuan fetish for jews and blacks, and genocidal hatred against any "papists" and "slavs" (which is basically all eastern europeans)

    I like it because I find that it really showcases what the average ameriroach/angloid really thinks of us. They might be like that in real life, but mentally and spiritually that's exactly what they are

  180. Recently watched the new Chinese movie Hi, Mom. 2nd highest grossing Chinese movie ever. Perhaps on track to beat the super-pozzed Wolf Warrior II? Sort of a chick flick, but…

    [MORE]

    -Made fun of half Russian mischling girls, as being ugly, mannish, and lazy.
    -Surprised by its nostalgic vision of the early ‘80s China
    -thought it was funny how the director played a girl half her age. Maybe, only possible in neotonous Asians?
    -brought up physiognomy, but only to to tell fortunes
    -Surprised by the coarse bathroom humor, which in Hollywood movies, I always view as subversion. Once again, I attribute it to Chinese coming off of farms

    Other than that I thought it was interesting to contrast with America’s most-beloved time travel movie, Back to the Future, which is subversive on many levels:
    -Libyan terrorists seek nukes, they will machine gun you in the parking lot of your local mall
    -copious black worship (black janitor becomes mayor, black band saves Marty)
    -in the ‘50s, your father was a pervert (peeping Tom) and your mother a whore
    -50’s is a time when you father was remorselessly bullied and your mother almost raped at school
    -builds up materialism more as the secret to happiness

    • Replies: @silviosilver
    @songbird


    -copious black worship (black janitor becomes mayor, black band saves Marty)
     
    I think you're reading too much into it. If you don't want to make race an issue in your movie, it's kinda like The Simpsons' race problem: you can ignore blacks completely and then not worry about stepping on any toes by a "problematic" portrayal, but that risks accusations of a "whiteout," so you can also try making any black character as anodyne as possible. So The Simpsons gives us Carl and Back to the Future gives us Mayor Goldie and Marvin Berry and the Starlighters. (Actually, more white-positive than anodyne: a black kid could realistically dream of being mayor as far back as the 50s - take that, white-shamers! - and while we have blacks to thank for rock and roll, they didn't necessarily do it alone.)

    builds up materialism more as the secret to happiness
     
    Which American ideal, pray tell, does that idea subvert?

    Replies: @songbird, @songbird

  181. @Bashibuzuk
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Your reaction is of course quite predictable, Tolik.

    I guess it comes as an easy way to deride someone who has demonstrated that your supposedly mighty "space - atomic" RusFed is unable to even build decent hygienic amenities for all of its children.

    But of course, all RusFed kids are not created equal. Some truly enjoy the largesse of Putinomics, while others are left to live in République démocratique du Congo like conditions:

    https://newtimes.ru/articles/detail/116441/

    As the saying goes: Всё лучшее детям!

    After all, in less than a single generation, RusFed has achieved the champion status in the social inequality as demonstrated by its Gini coefficient.

    We get to joyfully proclaim: Спасибо Путину за это!

    Speaking of thanking Putin and his mouthpieces, don't forget to say hello to Simonyan and Kholmogorov on my behalf, buddy!

    https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/zhiriak/29533320/127322/127322_original.jpg

    https://pioneer-lj.livejournal.com/1826275.html

    🙂

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin, @Mr. Hack

    Project explicitly meant to select for shitty shithouses finds a few shitty shithouses. / *surprise pikachu*

    Though in fairness, many morons with no critical faculties or sense for statistics, RFERL and the like had an entire campaign about Russians lacking toilet facilities a couple of years ago. https://twitter.com/27khv/status/1163515173547761666

    However, your choice of which propaganda tropes to parrot is highly telling about your true agenda here.

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Thing is these have been found in schools depending on the Ministry of Education of RusFed and regional and federal budgets. These are also key infrastructure when it comes to preventing disease among kids. No surprise that mass enteric intoxication cases among schoolchildren are so frequent in the RusFed news.

    As I wrote in my previous comment: this is kinda sad.

    And given that I write about schoolchildren, l would like to mention another sad fact: this September would be that of Donbass war children born after the beginning of the conflict going in their first class. In 2014 Putin promised to stand "behind the backs of children and women of Donbass ".

    And standing behind their backs he did, while his "Ukrainian partners" rained artillery bombardment on their heads, while Russian companies kept selling diesel fuel to the Ukrainian army until this very year.

    https://vz.ru/news/2021/3/3/1087704.html

    Business is business, just like paying nearly 3 billion $ by Gazprom to Ukraine Naftogaz.

    https://www.aa.com.tr/en/economy/russias-gazprom-pays-29b-to-ukraines-naftogaz/1685956

    Let's say again: Спасибо Путину за это!

    If you want to help Donbass war children while we are all waiting for Putin to finally find his balls, see the video below:

    https://youtu.be/TwU0LKgZLI8

  182. @Bashibuzuk
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Your reaction is of course quite predictable, Tolik.

    I guess it comes as an easy way to deride someone who has demonstrated that your supposedly mighty "space - atomic" RusFed is unable to even build decent hygienic amenities for all of its children.

    But of course, all RusFed kids are not created equal. Some truly enjoy the largesse of Putinomics, while others are left to live in République démocratique du Congo like conditions:

    https://newtimes.ru/articles/detail/116441/

    As the saying goes: Всё лучшее детям!

    After all, in less than a single generation, RusFed has achieved the champion status in the social inequality as demonstrated by its Gini coefficient.

    We get to joyfully proclaim: Спасибо Путину за это!

    Speaking of thanking Putin and his mouthpieces, don't forget to say hello to Simonyan and Kholmogorov on my behalf, buddy!

    https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/zhiriak/29533320/127322/127322_original.jpg

    https://pioneer-lj.livejournal.com/1826275.html

    🙂

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin, @Mr. Hack

    You’re moving around at the speed of light Bashi, moving from comparative studies about outhouses (Gini studies?) to the supposed sins of Kholmogorov, I suspect pointing to him being a Putinbot shill?
    Slow down a bit and let us all in on the news! 🙂

    A pretty cool cartoon!

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Mr. Hack

    The cartoon is by Vasya Lozhkin, the great surrealistic painter of the RusFed "greatness". A very nice guy who is much loved among the average Russians.

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/70/4c/8d/704c8d60e62b68a00ef0159c42c2caf7.jpg

    I guess this cat portrait above is a metaphor of the FUSSR oligarchs.

    🙂

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  183. Bashibuzuk says:
    @Anatoly Karlin
    @Bashibuzuk

    Project explicitly meant to select for shitty shithouses finds a few shitty shithouses. / *surprise pikachu*

    Though in fairness, many morons with no critical faculties or sense for statistics, RFERL and the like had an entire campaign about Russians lacking toilet facilities a couple of years ago. https://twitter.com/27khv/status/1163515173547761666

    However, your choice of which propaganda tropes to parrot is highly telling about your true agenda here.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    Thing is these have been found in schools depending on the Ministry of Education of RusFed and regional and federal budgets. These are also key infrastructure when it comes to preventing disease among kids. No surprise that mass enteric intoxication cases among schoolchildren are so frequent in the RusFed news.

    As I wrote in my previous comment: this is kinda sad.

    And given that I write about schoolchildren, l would like to mention another sad fact: this September would be that of Donbass war children born after the beginning of the conflict going in their first class. In 2014 Putin promised to stand “behind the backs of children and women of Donbass “.

    And standing behind their backs he did, while his “Ukrainian partners” rained artillery bombardment on their heads, while Russian companies kept selling diesel fuel to the Ukrainian army until this very year.

    https://vz.ru/news/2021/3/3/1087704.html

    Business is business, just like paying nearly 3 billion $ by Gazprom to Ukraine Naftogaz.

    https://www.aa.com.tr/en/economy/russias-gazprom-pays-29b-to-ukraines-naftogaz/1685956

    Let’s say again: Спасибо Путину за это!

    If you want to help Donbass war children while we are all waiting for Putin to finally find his balls, see the video below:

  184. @songbird
    Recently watched the new Chinese movie Hi, Mom. 2nd highest grossing Chinese movie ever. Perhaps on track to beat the super-pozzed Wolf Warrior II? Sort of a chick flick, but...

    -Made fun of half Russian mischling girls, as being ugly, mannish, and lazy.
    -Surprised by its nostalgic vision of the early ‘80s China
    -thought it was funny how the director played a girl half her age. Maybe, only possible in neotonous Asians?
    -brought up physiognomy, but only to to tell fortunes
    -Surprised by the coarse bathroom humor, which in Hollywood movies, I always view as subversion. Once again, I attribute it to Chinese coming off of farms

    Other than that I thought it was interesting to contrast with America’s most-beloved time travel movie, Back to the Future, which is subversive on many levels:
    -Libyan terrorists seek nukes, they will machine gun you in the parking lot of your local mall
    -copious black worship (black janitor becomes mayor, black band saves Marty)
    -in the ‘50s, your father was a pervert (peeping Tom) and your mother a whore
    -50’s is a time when you father was remorselessly bullied and your mother almost raped at school
    -builds up materialism more as the secret to happiness

    Replies: @silviosilver

    -copious black worship (black janitor becomes mayor, black band saves Marty)

    I think you’re reading too much into it. If you don’t want to make race an issue in your movie, it’s kinda like The Simpsons’ race problem: you can ignore blacks completely and then not worry about stepping on any toes by a “problematic” portrayal, but that risks accusations of a “whiteout,” so you can also try making any black character as anodyne as possible. So The Simpsons gives us Carl and Back to the Future gives us Mayor Goldie and Marvin Berry and the Starlighters. (Actually, more white-positive than anodyne: a black kid could realistically dream of being mayor as far back as the 50s – take that, white-shamers! – and while we have blacks to thank for rock and roll, they didn’t necessarily do it alone.)

    builds up materialism more as the secret to happiness

    Which American ideal, pray tell, does that idea subvert?

    • Replies: @songbird
    @silviosilver


    I think you’re reading too much into it.
     
    Bob Gale (the writer, or cowriter) is Jewish, and the dog was named Einstein. Still you could be right: as implausible as they are in a suburban Californian context, they may have been written in more as a result of social pressure than subversion, but I disagree with you, in so far as I think it is always a net negative, if you can't tell stories without positive portrayals of blacks, as part of society.

    Actually, more white-positive than anodyne
     
    White positive spin about movies is always a cope, IMO. Anyway, the most positive take about the series is that it teaches heritability, in the form of the Tannens.

    A lot of Americans have a nostalgic view of the '80s. Understandable on many levels, but American culture was already seriously pozzed at that point, on the issue of race. And a lot of it might have been unintentional - "let's not be seen as racists", rather than "let's subvert."

    Which American ideal, pray tell, does that idea subvert?
     
    I didn't say that materialism hasn't been much ballyhooed in America. I just don't think it's positive, and there was at least some level of contrast between the two films in that regard. Though not complete divergence. The Chinese one seemed to have Buddhist themes. The Western one did not seem to have much in the way of Christian themes.
    , @songbird
    @silviosilver


    kinda like The Simpsons’ race problem: you can ignore blacks completely and then not worry about stepping on any toes by a “problematic” portrayal, but that risks accusations of a “whiteout,” so you can also try making any black character as anodyne as possible. So The Simpsons gives us Carl
     
    The Simpsons also gave us Dr. Hibbert - the kind-hearted black medical doctor and family man. The show was pretty subversive about a lot of things - typical message of a dumb white father, pretty anti-religious, and it helped mainstream gays. I doubt Hibbert was entirely accidental - black doctor is a pretty common trope.
  185. Bashibuzuk says:
    @Mr. Hack
    @Bashibuzuk

    You're moving around at the speed of light Bashi, moving from comparative studies about outhouses (Gini studies?) to the supposed sins of Kholmogorov, I suspect pointing to him being a Putinbot shill?
    Slow down a bit and let us all in on the news! :-)

    https://sun9-51.userapi.com/impg/rmd3OSnXrATFAEvbMVkxP8PSegHThuwDCzIxww/oC2T7yhJqek.jpg?size=1372x1688&quality=96&sign=621f2f2718629b2fbea0e79eb9070b08

    A pretty cool cartoon!

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    The cartoon is by Vasya Lozhkin, the great surrealistic painter of the RusFed “greatness”. A very nice guy who is much loved among the average Russians.

    I guess this cat portrait above is a metaphor of the FUSSR oligarchs.

    🙂

    • Thanks: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Bashibuzuk

    No doubt that the fat cat oligarch knows this old saying:

    "The best fish in the world is kovbasa."

    I've updated this saying a bit:

    "The best kovbasa in the world is salo".

    But not all is fun and games in the world, as you well know. Your concern for the plight of children caught up in the Donbas war is appreciated. I once saw a documentary about an elderly woman and her grandchild held up in a house just outside of a city, living through a night of bombardment. It was a very touching film, and it wasn't really clear who was doing the shelling. It really didn't matter to me, people are people and we all deserve a safe place to live. I'm glad to see that you continue exposing the greed and corruption that is fueling this war, on both sides of this conflict. It appears that Karlin's new found appreciation for the 'New Putin" is clouding his vision of the man and his policies.

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin

  186. @silviosilver
    @songbird


    -copious black worship (black janitor becomes mayor, black band saves Marty)
     
    I think you're reading too much into it. If you don't want to make race an issue in your movie, it's kinda like The Simpsons' race problem: you can ignore blacks completely and then not worry about stepping on any toes by a "problematic" portrayal, but that risks accusations of a "whiteout," so you can also try making any black character as anodyne as possible. So The Simpsons gives us Carl and Back to the Future gives us Mayor Goldie and Marvin Berry and the Starlighters. (Actually, more white-positive than anodyne: a black kid could realistically dream of being mayor as far back as the 50s - take that, white-shamers! - and while we have blacks to thank for rock and roll, they didn't necessarily do it alone.)

    builds up materialism more as the secret to happiness
     
    Which American ideal, pray tell, does that idea subvert?

    Replies: @songbird, @songbird

    I think you’re reading too much into it.

    Bob Gale (the writer, or cowriter) is Jewish, and the dog was named Einstein. Still you could be right: as implausible as they are in a suburban Californian context, they may have been written in more as a result of social pressure than subversion, but I disagree with you, in so far as I think it is always a net negative, if you can’t tell stories without positive portrayals of blacks, as part of society.

    Actually, more white-positive than anodyne

    White positive spin about movies is always a cope, IMO. Anyway, the most positive take about the series is that it teaches heritability, in the form of the Tannens.

    A lot of Americans have a nostalgic view of the ’80s. Understandable on many levels, but American culture was already seriously pozzed at that point, on the issue of race. And a lot of it might have been unintentional – “let’s not be seen as racists”, rather than “let’s subvert.”

    Which American ideal, pray tell, does that idea subvert?

    I didn’t say that materialism hasn’t been much ballyhooed in America. I just don’t think it’s positive, and there was at least some level of contrast between the two films in that regard. Though not complete divergence. The Chinese one seemed to have Buddhist themes. The Western one did not seem to have much in the way of Christian themes.

  187. @Bashibuzuk
    @Mr. Hack

    The cartoon is by Vasya Lozhkin, the great surrealistic painter of the RusFed "greatness". A very nice guy who is much loved among the average Russians.

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/70/4c/8d/704c8d60e62b68a00ef0159c42c2caf7.jpg

    I guess this cat portrait above is a metaphor of the FUSSR oligarchs.

    🙂

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    No doubt that the fat cat oligarch knows this old saying:

    “The best fish in the world is kovbasa.”

    I’ve updated this saying a bit:

    “The best kovbasa in the world is salo”.

    But not all is fun and games in the world, as you well know. Your concern for the plight of children caught up in the Donbas war is appreciated. I once saw a documentary about an elderly woman and her grandchild held up in a house just outside of a city, living through a night of bombardment. It was a very touching film, and it wasn’t really clear who was doing the shelling. It really didn’t matter to me, people are people and we all deserve a safe place to live. I’m glad to see that you continue exposing the greed and corruption that is fueling this war, on both sides of this conflict. It appears that Karlin’s new found appreciation for the ‘New Putin” is clouding his vision of the man and his policies.

    • Agree: Bashibuzuk
    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
    @Mr. Hack

    No, I just operate by statistics, not nebulous "media reports." If it was otherwise, I'd be just one of dozens of Western hacks. In fact, I wonder why Bashibuzuk doesn't just go comment at RFERL and The Guardian, their fantasies about the so-called "glubinka" would seem to be much more up his alley.

    There is a way to solve the Donbass shelling problem for good. You probably wouldn't like it, though.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @Mr. Hack

  188. @Mr. Hack
    @Bashibuzuk

    No doubt that the fat cat oligarch knows this old saying:

    "The best fish in the world is kovbasa."

    I've updated this saying a bit:

    "The best kovbasa in the world is salo".

    But not all is fun and games in the world, as you well know. Your concern for the plight of children caught up in the Donbas war is appreciated. I once saw a documentary about an elderly woman and her grandchild held up in a house just outside of a city, living through a night of bombardment. It was a very touching film, and it wasn't really clear who was doing the shelling. It really didn't matter to me, people are people and we all deserve a safe place to live. I'm glad to see that you continue exposing the greed and corruption that is fueling this war, on both sides of this conflict. It appears that Karlin's new found appreciation for the 'New Putin" is clouding his vision of the man and his policies.

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin

    No, I just operate by statistics, not nebulous “media reports.” If it was otherwise, I’d be just one of dozens of Western hacks. In fact, I wonder why Bashibuzuk doesn’t just go comment at RFERL and The Guardian, their fantasies about the so-called “glubinka” would seem to be much more up his alley.

    There is a way to solve the Donbass shelling problem for good. You probably wouldn’t like it, though.

    • LOL: Bashibuzuk
    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Anatoly Karlin

    I prefer commenting here if you don't mind. It kind of balances the picture. But of course if you prefer me to stop, you're the boss here: хозяин-барин!

    You know how it's done:

    https://lurkmore.to/%D0%A4%D1%83%D0%BD%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B5_%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B6%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5

    В любой момент можно огородится!

    😉

    , @Mr. Hack
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Probably not, but I'd like to hear your solution?.....

    Also, I wasn't aware that either the Guardian or the RFERL expose the schemes that the Ukrainian oligarchs and politicians are involved with in Donbas?

  189. What to make of Cardano?

    Somehow I got the impression that it might become a social credit coin, to help disburse foreign aid to the most cooperative Africans, in return for their assistance in helping to facilitate the extraction of minerals. From wikipedia:

    IOHK announced a partnership with the Ethiopian government in 2018 to deploy their technology in a variety of industries throughout the country.[25] In April 2021, IOHK and the Ethiopia Ministry of Education announced plans to launch an identity and record-keeping system on Cardano for the country’s five million students.[26]

    But perhaps, more realistically that would be the Digital Yuan? I think a state-backed coin might be the most likely to fulfill this role, and I believe the Chinese will have the most heft going forward.

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
    @songbird


    What to make of Cardano?
     
    Well, it's vaporware. :)

    I don't have a high opinion about it. Its driven by hype and its price will probably crash whenever smart contracts do come out on it.

    Hoskinson is also a weirdo.



    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ey4NhDrWYAANXRd.jpg
  190. Bashibuzuk says:
    @Anatoly Karlin
    @Mr. Hack

    No, I just operate by statistics, not nebulous "media reports." If it was otherwise, I'd be just one of dozens of Western hacks. In fact, I wonder why Bashibuzuk doesn't just go comment at RFERL and The Guardian, their fantasies about the so-called "glubinka" would seem to be much more up his alley.

    There is a way to solve the Donbass shelling problem for good. You probably wouldn't like it, though.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @Mr. Hack

    I prefer commenting here if you don’t mind. It kind of balances the picture. But of course if you prefer me to stop, you’re the boss here: хозяин-барин!

    You know how it’s done:

    https://lurkmore.to/%D0%A4%D1%83%D0%BD%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B5_%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B6%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5

    В любой момент можно огородится!

    😉

  191. @Coconuts
    @Lokke


    Russia’s PR must improve dramatically if Moscow wants to have a shot at presenting a viable long-term alternative to the western sphere.
     
    Looking at it realistically China, India, the Islamic World, Africa are all more likely to generate alternatives to the West long-term than Russia. Russia just lacks the weight of numbers needed. As it goes, most of these places are also becoming more connected to and directly involved with Western countries than Russia is.

    Russia may be able to compete with the US for influence in Europe, but if it wants it at the moment probably should emphasise Sovietism, because among people in their early 20s Socialism, Marxism, the hard progressive left is one of the contemporary 'in-things'. When talking to the West they could choose more women and Russians who look Central Asian as spokesmen, and talk about the longstanding Russian understanding of the solidarity and unity of working peoples, world peace and progressive humanity. Russia will seem more trendy, but could also position itself as more wise, understanding as a result of the Soviet era how progressivism needs to be balanced with more traditional and sustainable values.

    Another productive approach would be talking about deconstructing colonialist narratives about Russia in the West which obviously derive from mid-century German influence; this would be unpopular in Eastern Europe but would likely find an audience in the core West.

    Tradcon will probably be the next thing after this new burst of leftism has faded away but that could be a couple of decades into the future, in the meantime Tradcons need to find effective ways of preserving as much as possible of what they value.

    Replies: @Jatt Aryaa, @Dmitry

    humanity. Russia will seem more trend

    I agree with you that such an approach could be more successful, but it will still be negative and ephemeral propaganda, even if a potentially more fashionable one than current failed attempts.

    It’s possible that the net effect of any propaganda, will be usually negative, even when judged against the selfish aims of rulers

    It might be that in the long term, a good result will arrive only by communicating things of real value and usefulness to people in other countries.

    So if the main softpower is still 19th century inheritances in music, ballet or literature, the reason is because these were things of real value.

    They were a result of authentic and difficult work – these are the communications which had a permanent value.

    West they could choose more women and Russians who look

    Although one of the main power imbalances in the international relations, between the first world and the second world, is that the latter is viewed as a kind of wife factory by men in the former.

    So that Russia or Brazil or Thailand (perhaps also China), became viewed as a destination for middle age men from wealthy countries, to marry local women, and local women view foreigners from the wealthy countries as higher status.

    Even EU countries like Poland, are acting as a kind of wife (and also prostitute) factory for wealthy North Western European countries.

    Not that there is an easy solution for this, beyond local economic development (but the middle income trap makes this very slow for second world countries).

    balanced with more traditional and sustainable

    Teaching about traditional sustainability, would have to be from real knowledge and expertise, if it is to have any value that could contribute to other countries.

    In Russia and many other postsoviet countries, there is currently high prioritization to the industrialists and factories, and very often low prioritization for ordinary’s peoples health and lifestyle. So it would be viewed more of an antiexample for sustainability, if there was international attention on this topic. Nobody is going to learn from Russia in this value-set.*

    Paradoxically international attention would actually be helpful though for local people, as if the authorities in Russia became embarassed about the low sustainability, then they might raise its priority level, and invest in improving the situation. This is because the authorities prioritize highly their self-image.

    ​*It’s like if Brazil’s government was teaching about “Order and Progress”, which is the slogan on the Brazilian flag. You would have to be quite gullible, to go to Brazil to learn “Order and Progress”. On the other hand, if you go to Brazil to learn about the activities where Brazilian culture excels – like football and joie de vivre, then you might be wise.

    Tradcon will probably be the next thing after this new burst of leftism

    Yes we can be sure that traditional things of value, will be popular again. This is universal things we know are good, like clean water, beautiful nature, healthy ecology, high quality products (made in countries like Germany) , etc. Or even respecting old people, honouring your family, etc.

    But this would not be fake posing about “traditionalism” which is at best a symptom of lack of traditional sustainability. (People start to become obsessed about water, if they live in a desert.)

    • Agree: Bashibuzuk
    • Replies: @Coconuts
    @Dmitry


    I agree with you that such an approach could be more successful, but it will still be negative and ephemeral propaganda, even if a potentially more fashionable one than current failed attempts.
     
    It is often said that there is a close connection or identity relationship between goodness and truth so, yes, this is correct. For it to be something of lasting value or a genuine contribution to the common good there would have to be some connection between the messaging in the media and actual policy orientations.

    If not it would be more tactical and could therefore foster cynicism about politics and belief in Machiavellianism.


    Although one of the main power imbalances in the international relations, between the first world and the second world, is that the latter is viewed as a kind of wife factory by men in the former.
     
    Strangely here I was imagining more 'serious' looking women who might appeal to a broader Western audience, those who appear to have a certain amount of integrity and social status (the kind of women who may be good looking but may also look like they could run businesses or work as lawyers, academics etc.). I had in mind the way the Belarusian opposition figures Svetlana Tikhonovskaya and Maria Kolesnikova have been been presented to Western audiences, which is an interesting departure from the previous typical stereotypes of East Slavic women you tended to find.

    But I will also make a separate post about this issue.


    Teaching about traditional sustainability, would have to be from real knowledge and expertise, if it is to have any value that could contribute to other countries.
     
    Environmental issues are an interesting topic in themselves, but on this point I was thinking more of long term sustainability of a political tendency or ideology; the problem that Woke is burning quite brightly at present but may drift into excesses or face a backlash if it isn't handled with a certain moderation. This could rebound on the political left in general (there were what could be signs of it during the last round of elections in the UK).

    But this would not be fake posing about “traditionalism” which is at best a symptom of lack of traditional sustainability. (People start to become obsessed about water, if they live in a desert.)
     
    As I see it at the moment these are very early beginnings for this movement, the self-conscious 'Trad' or Cottage Core stuff, Carrot Pill, talking about absolute monarchy, general Larp and so on. I wouldn't find it surprising if this tendency develops along the kind of lines sketched by Michel Houellebecq in his different books, he seems to have had a feel for what a more mainstream cultural right-wing would be like after the right has distanced itself from fixating on free-market economics and become less influenced by liberalism.

    Replies: @Dmitry

    , @Coconuts
    @Dmitry


    Even EU countries like Poland, are acting as a kind of wife (and also prostitute) factory for wealthy North Western European countries.

    Not that there is an easy solution for this, beyond local economic development (but the middle income trap makes this very slow for second world countries).
     

    This situation seems to have undergone a number of changes, from the 90s and 2000s when stereotypes about Eastern European mail-order brides, sex tourism and widespread prostitution were very current. There was a relatively famous popular novel in the 2000s in the UK called 'A Short History of Tractors in Ukrainian', where the ageing patriarch of an established British Ukrainian family gets a much younger wife from 1990s post-Soviet Ukraine, this would be the archetype of the EE mail-order bride.

    Quite a lot of prostitution and human trafficking still seems to go on (i.e. Moldova, rural areas of many Eastern EU countries, Ukraine) but it doesn't seem to be at the same level as previously.

    According to Red Pill analysts there is the phenomena of female hypergamy, where many women like to date and marry men who are higher status and better educated, maybe a fair bit higher in status, which means that a part of Western men find it hard to date a Western woman they would want to marry (or just date a woman at all on a regular basis) and so they are drawn to look abroad. This includes younger men looking for a woman they might marry. Local women will also be hypergamous or looking for opportunities so may be drawn to men like this, as well as older rich guys.

    I remember when I first visited Belarus there was a kind of man shortage where there weren't enough educated men for the educated women, and foreigners were exotic even if they didn't have lots of money. Also fewer educated women appeared to be psychologically strange or have standards in terms of wealth and status that I couldn't meet than I found in the UK, where I was thinking of entering a monastery to live by my late 20s. That was all pre-swipe app dating though and seems like a strange foreign era now.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    , @Philip Owen
    @Dmitry

    Russia's focus on production industries can be viewed as curse worthy neglect or a fortunate opening for the service industries that consist of 80% of a modern economy.

  192. @Anatoly Karlin
    @Mr. Hack

    No, I just operate by statistics, not nebulous "media reports." If it was otherwise, I'd be just one of dozens of Western hacks. In fact, I wonder why Bashibuzuk doesn't just go comment at RFERL and The Guardian, their fantasies about the so-called "glubinka" would seem to be much more up his alley.

    There is a way to solve the Donbass shelling problem for good. You probably wouldn't like it, though.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @Mr. Hack

    Probably not, but I’d like to hear your solution?…..

    Also, I wasn’t aware that either the Guardian or the RFERL expose the schemes that the Ukrainian oligarchs and politicians are involved with in Donbas?

  193. @SafeNow
    I cannot understand what factor gets my comments censored-out occasionally in various places on this website. I do not use profanity, or advocate violence, or furnish information that could identify me or any other person.

    Ron once lamented that a significant number of “deranged” or “unhinged” commenters have joined. I replied that, beginning with Don Quijote and Hamlet, and continuing to the present day, the deranged and unhinged have made important contributions to literature, history, and other areas of thought. Assuming this is correct, I feel that even if my censored comments were irrational and preposterous, they should be allowed. In any case, if one is not able to make eccentric comments here, then where? Harsh reply comments would follow any such eccentric comment. Their justice would be swift, and mercy slight.

    Replies: @Alfa158

    Hamlet and Don Quixote are fictional characters and have therefore made no contributions to humanity. Their creators, Shakespeare and Cervantes who did make contributions, were not deranged or unhinged.
    There have been artists with issues like Van Gogh who have made contributions, but overwhelmingly the positive contributions to our history were made by stable people. There is almost no supporting evidence for the old factoid that madness is just next to genius.
    You’ll need better examples for your thesis.

  194. @Anatoly Karlin
    @Lokke


    It’s a disgrace that so many Russian nationalists are still deriding Solzhenitsyn as a “traitor”.
     
    That is literally something that sovoks, not Russian nationalists, do.

    Kindly refrain from offering us "advice" on what to do when you don't have a clue what is going on.

    Replies: @Lokke

    I guess Sovoks make up the vast majority of the people who claim to be Russian nationalists online then. Feel free to be an arrogant prick and ignore any “advice”, but don’t be shocked if you suddenly find the streets of Moscow and St. Petersburg are occupied by hundreds of thousands of soyboys and whores demanding liberation and infinity penises as we are now seeing in Poland. It happens faster than you think. Russia’s social and economic system isn`t really fundamentally different from the western one. Hollow nationalism is unsustainable in the long run, and I don’t have to be a specialist in Russian affairs to know that.

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Lokke

    I actually agree with a lot of what you wrote. RusFed (as distinguished from the Holy Russia that exited before the Time of Troubles) is a toxic byproduct of Westernization. Despite whatever RusFed elites claim, whatever propaganda they throw at the gullible, despite whatever their mouthpieces blather, they are neither nationalist nor conservative. They aren't even patriotic, their posturing is bogus and empty.

    They are fully integrated into the globalized economy, enjoying its riches to the fullest. The only thing they argue about with their "Western Partners " is the piece of the pie they would get from the extractive economy they have imposed upon the Russian people and other ethnic groups native to the Russian territory.

    This globalized economic model is inevitably leading to the demise of the Slavs. The way it goes, the Slav population will probably be half of what it is today in a hundred years. But the majority of Slavs do not care about their own culture and people survival anymore. They have no roots and see no future. This is sad, but quite convenient for the globalized predatory elites.

    All these thousand years of living, dying, fighting in the immense territory between the Altai and the Elbe just to disappear like a shadow lost in the twilight of history. This is tragic, but do not hope for someone like Karlin to fully appreciate the tragedy unfolding before our very eyes. He is not Slav and as a transhumanist he is more preoccupied with an illusive future than with a fading past.

    Past has no value for rootless people...

    Replies: @silviosilver, @Anatoly Karlin, @Svevlad

    , @Anatoly Karlin
    @Lokke

    Western rightoids lost their own countries, don't even understand what happened (hint: It's not nationalism, hollow or otherwise, that drives liberalism in Poland), but for some really weird reason feel qualified to lecture my own.

    They can to hell IMO.

    Replies: @Znzn, @Passer by

  195. @Passer by
    @Felix Keverich

    Oh, btw, President Putin is fully aware of those realities, recently naming the demographic situation in Russia "extraordinary", while insisting that the country should grow economically at world average. There was a good reason for those hated pension reforms, forcing people to work longer, and men until they die, and there was no choice about it - the country can not sustain itself with its current demographics.

    Replies: @Dmitry

    Low fertility and ageing population, is not completely negative, especially from the point of view of rulers, but also to some extent for national interests and ordinary people.

    After war, the second worst problem for Russia in the 20th century was political instability. Low fertility and ageing population are factors which contribute to increasing political stability in Russia.

    In addition, a stable or falling population, add upward pressure to GDP per capita, and downward pressure on youth unemployment and crime rate.

    In an economy based on extraction of natural resources, which are fixed, then reducing the denominator of the income earned via a falling population might make it more possible to progress through the middle income trap.

    Putin is fully aware of those realities, recently naming the demographic situation in Russia “extraordinary”

    Of many things he might have nightmares about, I doubt he is having nightmares about the fertility rate. Top officials have a priority to maintain appearances of success or effective management, if not an underlying reality, as the appearance by itself might be sufficient to keep them in their very profitable positions.

    Putin needs to seem like he is concerned about weak demographics and is responding adequately. However, if the demographics are adding downward pressure on youth unemployment and crime rate, and could create upward pressure on GDP per capita, then – it’s possible that this situation will be a boost for him.

    Median age is likely to contribute to political stability. In Belarus, last summer, there was a sense that even if the majority of energetic young people opposed Lukashenko, then only 11,5% of the population of Belarus are in the age category of 20-29.

    So the demonstrations of young people in Minsk, was a sign that Lukashenko had plenty of unpopularity – among a demographic that could not be more than 11,5% of his country. Anti-Lukashenko opinions of youth in Belarus, were less important than they would be in a country where the youth was a more significant share of the population. (E.g. in countries like Egypt, Syria or Libya in the “Arab Spring”).

    In 2011 Egypt, there were 19% of the population in the age category of 20-29. Compared to Lukashenko, Mubarak was playing with a higher difficulty level setting for demographics, other things equal

    • Replies: @Passer by
    @Dmitry


    In addition, a stable or falling population, add upward pressure to GDP per capita
     
    On the contrary, falling population, which also means accelerated ageing of the population, puts downward pressure on GDP per capita too, in addition to total GDP.

    You see the russian population pyramid? It is inverting. There will be fewer younger people and more older people. Judging by the pyramid, soon there will be 30 % less people in their prime age - 30 - 50 year old, while the number of older people will increase significantly.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Russia#/media/File:RUS_SbA1y20210101.png

    Do you know what this means? That you get less smart, creative and productive people per capita. The peak of human productivity and creativity is between 30 and 50 years old. Intelligence also starts to drop later in life. Consumption too. (Negative for russian market size).

    The share of the population of highly productive and creative people drops, the share of unproductive people increases, which puts downward pressure on per capita GDP.

    So, what you are getting is fewer smart, productive and creative people, fewer inventions, fewer businesses start ups, less creative or productive work, and more unproductive old people, both in total and in per capita, which puts downward pressure on per capita GDP.


    Putin needs to seem like he is concerned about weak demographics
     
    No, i don't think this is simply about appearances, it has been directly and explicitly added to the Russian Constitution - "Children are the most important state policy priority for the Russian Federation", as well as in several other articles of it. Including in the National Security Strategy of the country.

    Median age is likely to contribute to political stability.
     
    Look. Everybody knows about the issue of ageing population possibly bringing political stability. But here, there is another issue - the weakening of the country due to demographic problems and low economic growth, which increases external pressure on the country. Simply put, a stronger country handles external pressures better than a weaker country. And Russia is not old Japan, rather it is in Cold War conditions, facing the hostility of the combined West, and faces a world with increasing inter-country competition.

    This is why the relative weakening of the country due to demographic or economic factors is not a good thing. And this has been recognized by the russian authorities.

    Not to mention the issue of weak GDP growth, including weak per capita gdp growth that ageing will bring soon, and this will be bad for politics. And i doubt that Putin wants total GDP growth, or per capita growth to weaken. He himself said that GDP growth needs to be at least 3 % per anum.

    Replies: @Dmitry

  196. @That Would Be Telling
    @Yellowface Anon


    Indeed that will be a possible scenario with a natural infection. But you should’ve known how unlikely it is for young people who suffer from COVID, vis-a-vis the near-certainty (if Dr. Bridle and his/her team are proven correct) of hemorrhages.
     
    You're confounding clotting disorders with hemorrhages per se, unless you've listened to Dr. Brigle's video and have learned more than the claim "The USA adverse event database shows evidence of suckling infants suffering from bleeding disorders in the gastrointestinal tract." Which is pretty easy to falsify, it's got a good interface for retrieving 10,000 or less reports at a time, a good tutorial for using that, start here.

    Your second paragraph is of course a strong but debatable point, you're again not considering disease morbidity while highlighting possible vaccine morbidity, and of course herd immunity unless for example you've decided it's extremely unlikely the US will reach that, which is the way to bet as of now.

    I also don't consider herd immunity to be a major issue prior to our finding out how well variants of concern escape natural and vaccine immunity to "classic coronavirus." Early indications including some real world Phase III vaccine testing in South Africa are encouraging for avoiding "moderate to severe" disease except for AZ/Oxford, but that of course is not "sterilizing" immunity for those who get (re-)infected. We're only at the beginning of this second or so round with the virus (one might consider the British B.1.1.7 variant with its much greater transmissibility to be round two).

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon

    Do you realize I stopped talking about medicine in the 2nd part and started talking personal ideology and politics?

  197. Bashibuzuk says:
    @Lokke
    @Anatoly Karlin

    I guess Sovoks make up the vast majority of the people who claim to be Russian nationalists online then. Feel free to be an arrogant prick and ignore any "advice", but don't be shocked if you suddenly find the streets of Moscow and St. Petersburg are occupied by hundreds of thousands of soyboys and whores demanding liberation and infinity penises as we are now seeing in Poland. It happens faster than you think. Russia's social and economic system isn`t really fundamentally different from the western one. Hollow nationalism is unsustainable in the long run, and I don't have to be a specialist in Russian affairs to know that.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @Anatoly Karlin

    I actually agree with a lot of what you wrote. RusFed (as distinguished from the Holy Russia that exited before the Time of Troubles) is a toxic byproduct of Westernization. Despite whatever RusFed elites claim, whatever propaganda they throw at the gullible, despite whatever their mouthpieces blather, they are neither nationalist nor conservative. They aren’t even patriotic, their posturing is bogus and empty.

    They are fully integrated into the globalized economy, enjoying its riches to the fullest. The only thing they argue about with their “Western Partners ” is the piece of the pie they would get from the extractive economy they have imposed upon the Russian people and other ethnic groups native to the Russian territory.

    This globalized economic model is inevitably leading to the demise of the Slavs. The way it goes, the Slav population will probably be half of what it is today in a hundred years. But the majority of Slavs do not care about their own culture and people survival anymore. They have no roots and see no future. This is sad, but quite convenient for the globalized predatory elites.

    All these thousand years of living, dying, fighting in the immense territory between the Altai and the Elbe just to disappear like a shadow lost in the twilight of history. This is tragic, but do not hope for someone like Karlin to fully appreciate the tragedy unfolding before our very eyes. He is not Slav and as a transhumanist he is more preoccupied with an illusive future than with a fading past.

    Past has no value for rootless people…

    • Replies: @silviosilver
    @Bashibuzuk


    All these thousand years of living, dying, fighting in the immense territory between the Altai and the Elbe just to disappear like a shadow lost in the twilight of history. This is tragic, but do not hope for someone like Karlin to fully appreciate the tragedy unfolding before our very eyes.
     
    Coldly beautiful, and immeasurably sad. At least that's how it feels when I allow myself to dwell on the issue too long.

    Your words also remind me of the 'replicant' Batty's speech near the end of Blade Runner, moments before his predestined lifespan is about to expire:

    I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die.

    Perhaps it takes a special kind of person to be moved by such thoughts. Racial writer Richard McCulloch tried to introduce the term 'racial empath' to describe those with the keenest sensitivity to their racial-cultural group's interests and fortunes. It never caught on, but the concept makes sense.

    Of course, you are concerned specifically with Slavs and McCulloch was concerned with the salvation of his own group - Anglos/Scands/Germanics - so I won't claim to understand your worries and anxieties precisely, but I think I can relate to the general sense of impending loss.

    Other people seem to me to only simulate such understanding. You can explain your concern and their responses indicate they have correctly parsed your words, yet they never quite seem to get it, and their replies demonstrate their priorities flatly lie elsewhere - priorities to which your concerns only pose obstacles.

    Ah well, c'est la vie.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Dmitry

    , @Anatoly Karlin
    @Bashibuzuk

    You are a pagan larper whom ~95% of Russians would regard as a freak. But you do you.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @AP, @TheTotallyAnonymous

    , @Svevlad
    @Bashibuzuk

    Extreme problems require extreme solutions.

    Such as total and utter enslavement. If they are willing to go extinct over westoid virtue signal points, then they deserve 10 thousand years of absolute and utter unspeakable hell on Earth.

    And I'm not talking about pozzed mental slavery being imposed by the Great Satan and it's mankurt enforcers. I'm talking about Combine-style Slavic hypernationalist by force tier stuff. Artificial wombs, mass cloning, genetic modification, hard eugenics.

    Or in short, what the people don't want to do, will be done regardless.

    But it's not the time to take such extreme measures. Subversion of the eternal westoid by taking the lowest IQ trash from around the world, putting them on container ships and shipping them to Atlantoid ports by the millions until they simply disappear in an eternal civil war is far easier, and in my opinion, more entertaining.

    Sadly, modern diplomacy is extremely cucked. It's all slow, fragile, halfway there schemes.

    But hey, nature always takes out the trash in the end!

  198. London/Oxford-based, previously co-founder of Yota (known for a failed “yotaphone” which was defended by Chubais in his debate with Navalny), has climbed $10 billion from electric vehicle hype.

    I don’t have any knowledge about whether this valuation is crazy or not.

    He begins the company in 2015 in Oxford. And within 6 years it has $13 billion valuation, and he owns $10 billion of it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrival_(company)

    Russian tycoon behind UK electric van start-up Arrival sees wealth soar by $10bn

    The Russian founder of British electric van and bus start-up Arrival saw his wealth soar by almost $10 billion after his company listed in New York on Thursday.

    Arrival became the largest-ever UK company listing ever when it went public on the Nasdaq through a special purpose acquisition company (SPAC) merger with CIIC Merger, valuing the business at more than $13bn.

    The deal, which raised around $660m, secured Arrival’s founder and chief executive, Denis Sverdlov, $9.8bn, with the Russian owning 76 per cent of the stock in the new public company.

    “Going public is an opportunity that will allow us to continue to scale globally, bringing these products to more and more cities and people,” said Mr Sverdlov, a telecoms mogul and former Russian minister.

    The company, which is based in Banbury in Oxfordshire, was founded by Mr Sverdlov in 2015.

    It plans to develop electric vehicles using its own parts, components and technologies. The move may allow the company to adapt quickly to any change in demand, reduce costs and boost margins.

    Its electric van will begin public-road trials with certain customers this summer, with full production expected to kick off in the third quarter of 2022, Arrival said earlier this month. Meanwhile, the company’s bus will undergo a trial run with one of Britain’s largest transport operators in the autumn.

    Earlier this week, Arrival said it will build a new plant in North Carolina and much of its production will go to fulfilling an order from package delivery company UPS for up to 10,000 vehicles.

    Arrival’s “microfactory” in Charlotte will be the start-up’s second US plant and is due to launch production in the third quarter of 2022. Last October, Arrival announced plans for a plant in South Carolina. It also has a plant in England.

    Feverish investor interest in finding the next Tesla and bringing them to market via SPACs has also included commercial electric vehicle start-up Canoo.

    Tightening CO2 emissions targets in Europe and China have combined with improving battery technology to provide greater range at lower costs, giving commercial electric vehicles (EVs) their moment in the sun after years of waiting.

    The coronavirus pandemic has also boosted the need for vans to deliver goods to consumers at home.

    Ford Motor said earlier this week that the next version of its Transit van for the European market will go into production in Turkey in 2023, and include fully electric and hybrid variants along with the combustion-engine version.

    https://www.thenationalnews.com/business/technology/russian-tycoon-behind-uk-electric-van-start-up-arrival-sees-wealth-soar-by-10bn-1.1191782

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Dmitry

    Yoga phone was actually kind of cool. I wanted to buy one a few years ago because I read a lot on my cell phone...

    , @Philip Owen
    @Dmitry

    A very large number of the senior managers appear to have come from Sistema although a spell at the LSE Management school (popular with Russians) is also a common thread.

  199. @Dmitry
    London/Oxford-based, previously co-founder of Yota (known for a failed "yotaphone" which was defended by Chubais in his debate with Navalny), has climbed $10 billion from electric vehicle hype.

    I don't have any knowledge about whether this valuation is crazy or not.

    He begins the company in 2015 in Oxford. And within 6 years it has $13 billion valuation, and he owns $10 billion of it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrival_(company)


    Russian tycoon behind UK electric van start-up Arrival sees wealth soar by $10bn

    The Russian founder of British electric van and bus start-up Arrival saw his wealth soar by almost $10 billion after his company listed in New York on Thursday.

    Arrival became the largest-ever UK company listing ever when it went public on the Nasdaq through a special purpose acquisition company (SPAC) merger with CIIC Merger, valuing the business at more than $13bn.

    The deal, which raised around $660m, secured Arrival's founder and chief executive, Denis Sverdlov, $9.8bn, with the Russian owning 76 per cent of the stock in the new public company.

    "Going public is an opportunity that will allow us to continue to scale globally, bringing these products to more and more cities and people," said Mr Sverdlov, a telecoms mogul and former Russian minister.

    The company, which is based in Banbury in Oxfordshire, was founded by Mr Sverdlov in 2015.

    It plans to develop electric vehicles using its own parts, components and technologies. The move may allow the company to adapt quickly to any change in demand, reduce costs and boost margins.

    Its electric van will begin public-road trials with certain customers this summer, with full production expected to kick off in the third quarter of 2022, Arrival said earlier this month. Meanwhile, the company’s bus will undergo a trial run with one of Britain’s largest transport operators in the autumn.

    Earlier this week, Arrival said it will build a new plant in North Carolina and much of its production will go to fulfilling an order from package delivery company UPS for up to 10,000 vehicles.

    Arrival's "microfactory" in Charlotte will be the start-up's second US plant and is due to launch production in the third quarter of 2022. Last October, Arrival announced plans for a plant in South Carolina. It also has a plant in England.

    Feverish investor interest in finding the next Tesla and bringing them to market via SPACs has also included commercial electric vehicle start-up Canoo.

    Tightening CO2 emissions targets in Europe and China have combined with improving battery technology to provide greater range at lower costs, giving commercial electric vehicles (EVs) their moment in the sun after years of waiting.

    The coronavirus pandemic has also boosted the need for vans to deliver goods to consumers at home.

    Ford Motor said earlier this week that the next version of its Transit van for the European market will go into production in Turkey in 2023, and include fully electric and hybrid variants along with the combustion-engine version.
     

    https://www.thenationalnews.com/business/technology/russian-tycoon-behind-uk-electric-van-start-up-arrival-sees-wealth-soar-by-10bn-1.1191782

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @Philip Owen

    Yoga phone was actually kind of cool. I wanted to buy one a few years ago because I read a lot on my cell phone…

  200. @Bashibuzuk
    @Lokke

    I actually agree with a lot of what you wrote. RusFed (as distinguished from the Holy Russia that exited before the Time of Troubles) is a toxic byproduct of Westernization. Despite whatever RusFed elites claim, whatever propaganda they throw at the gullible, despite whatever their mouthpieces blather, they are neither nationalist nor conservative. They aren't even patriotic, their posturing is bogus and empty.

    They are fully integrated into the globalized economy, enjoying its riches to the fullest. The only thing they argue about with their "Western Partners " is the piece of the pie they would get from the extractive economy they have imposed upon the Russian people and other ethnic groups native to the Russian territory.

    This globalized economic model is inevitably leading to the demise of the Slavs. The way it goes, the Slav population will probably be half of what it is today in a hundred years. But the majority of Slavs do not care about their own culture and people survival anymore. They have no roots and see no future. This is sad, but quite convenient for the globalized predatory elites.

    All these thousand years of living, dying, fighting in the immense territory between the Altai and the Elbe just to disappear like a shadow lost in the twilight of history. This is tragic, but do not hope for someone like Karlin to fully appreciate the tragedy unfolding before our very eyes. He is not Slav and as a transhumanist he is more preoccupied with an illusive future than with a fading past.

    Past has no value for rootless people...

    Replies: @silviosilver, @Anatoly Karlin, @Svevlad

    All these thousand years of living, dying, fighting in the immense territory between the Altai and the Elbe just to disappear like a shadow lost in the twilight of history. This is tragic, but do not hope for someone like Karlin to fully appreciate the tragedy unfolding before our very eyes.

    Coldly beautiful, and immeasurably sad. At least that’s how it feels when I allow myself to dwell on the issue too long.

    Your words also remind me of the ‘replicant’ Batty’s speech near the end of Blade Runner, moments before his predestined lifespan is about to expire:

    I’ve seen things you people wouldn’t believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die.

    Perhaps it takes a special kind of person to be moved by such thoughts. Racial writer Richard McCulloch tried to introduce the term ‘racial empath’ to describe those with the keenest sensitivity to their racial-cultural group’s interests and fortunes. It never caught on, but the concept makes sense.

    Of course, you are concerned specifically with Slavs and McCulloch was concerned with the salvation of his own group – Anglos/Scands/Germanics – so I won’t claim to understand your worries and anxieties precisely, but I think I can relate to the general sense of impending loss.

    Other people seem to me to only simulate such understanding. You can explain your concern and their responses indicate they have correctly parsed your words, yet they never quite seem to get it, and their replies demonstrate their priorities flatly lie elsewhere – priorities to which your concerns only pose obstacles.

    Ah well, c’est la vie.

    • Agree: Bashibuzuk
    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @silviosilver

    The only problem that I can see with Bashibuzuk's deep lament of the passing of a Slavic cultural space between "the Altai and the Elbe" is that no such unified entity ever really existed. In the beginning, there were 2-3 large branches of Slavs divided into something like 15- 20 separate tribes. Once state consolidation started to take place, you had many separate quarreling principalities and then finally two large Slavic states (Poland and Russia) that reached high levels of cultural achievement and competition. To a greater or lesser extent, for better or for worse, the idea of a nation/states is losing its utility and appeal for a vast majority of earth's citizenry.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    , @Dmitry
    @silviosilver


    replicant’ Batty’s speech near the end of Blade Runner,
     
    I think there are two beautiful moments (with the Vangelis playing on the keyboard) in "Bladerunner", which raises it from being a mostly mediocre, trashy science-fiction, to become a work of art.

    This is the speech about "tears in rain" and also the moment when Harrison Ford tells the memory of the spider to Rachel.

    In both cases, it is something invasive, and there is sadness about the illusion of their identity.

    But the "tears in rain" speech is less interesting, than the moment when recites the memory of the spider to Rachel. It relies on a kind of "purple prose", whereas the memory about the spider has the sadness built into the wrong structure of the speakers (the wrong person is telling the memory).


    . Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time,

     

    This purple writing style, sounds like it is trying to copy Ernst Jünger's “In steel storms”. It was persuasive and beautiful enough make me a teenager safely in their bed, almost wish to be lying in a trench in the First World War.

    The fact it has such an effect on readers 90 years later, was an indication of Jünger's talent, if not necessarily of his truthfulness.

    Replies: @silviosilver, @songbird

  201. @silviosilver
    @Bashibuzuk


    All these thousand years of living, dying, fighting in the immense territory between the Altai and the Elbe just to disappear like a shadow lost in the twilight of history. This is tragic, but do not hope for someone like Karlin to fully appreciate the tragedy unfolding before our very eyes.
     
    Coldly beautiful, and immeasurably sad. At least that's how it feels when I allow myself to dwell on the issue too long.

    Your words also remind me of the 'replicant' Batty's speech near the end of Blade Runner, moments before his predestined lifespan is about to expire:

    I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die.

    Perhaps it takes a special kind of person to be moved by such thoughts. Racial writer Richard McCulloch tried to introduce the term 'racial empath' to describe those with the keenest sensitivity to their racial-cultural group's interests and fortunes. It never caught on, but the concept makes sense.

    Of course, you are concerned specifically with Slavs and McCulloch was concerned with the salvation of his own group - Anglos/Scands/Germanics - so I won't claim to understand your worries and anxieties precisely, but I think I can relate to the general sense of impending loss.

    Other people seem to me to only simulate such understanding. You can explain your concern and their responses indicate they have correctly parsed your words, yet they never quite seem to get it, and their replies demonstrate their priorities flatly lie elsewhere - priorities to which your concerns only pose obstacles.

    Ah well, c'est la vie.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Dmitry

    The only problem that I can see with Bashibuzuk’s deep lament of the passing of a Slavic cultural space between “the Altai and the Elbe” is that no such unified entity ever really existed. In the beginning, there were 2-3 large branches of Slavs divided into something like 15- 20 separate tribes. Once state consolidation started to take place, you had many separate quarreling principalities and then finally two large Slavic states (Poland and Russia) that reached high levels of cultural achievement and competition. To a greater or lesser extent, for better or for worse, the idea of a nation/states is losing its utility and appeal for a vast majority of earth’s citizenry.

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Mr. Hack

    I don't really care for nations and states, which have only lasted for a few centuries and are now already becoming brittle and falling into pieces. I care about genetic lineages, cultural spaces attached to them and they developing into unique and transcendent expressions of human consciousness.

    These areas of human existential experiences do not have to be unified, unification stiffens their development. They have to be congruent and harmonious in their evolution. Slavdom has never been unified, Great Scythia accross the Steppe, Celtic world stretching from the Bosphorus to Irish Sea and Germanic lebensraum spanning the expanse between the Scandinavian and Central European forests: neither of these was unified. But they were alive as none of their postmodern derivatives is today.



    Unification and standardization kills human spirit. Perhaps that is why Rome and Byzantium ended up falling down under the German and Steppe-dweller onslaught, while Imperial China ended up conquered by the Tungusic barbarian Manchus who made it into a chimera of itself. This is why the Berber Tamazgha, that existed for perhaps some 5000 years between the Atlantic (including the Canary Islands) and the Nile, faded in some 500 years into irrelevance under the normalizing leaden blanket of Islamic narrative.

    They and others lived, died, fought, built and destroyed, while they increased in numbers and culture, they might have evolved each into a unique historical living experience that would have lasted for tens thousand of years spanning past and future. But they got organized, unified, suppressed and oppressed into normalized Empires, nations and states and now they're dying as unique human ensembles and becoming just part and parcel of future hi-tech globalized posthuman civilization which is being born before our very eyes.

    Replies: @Morton's toes

  202. • Agree: Blinky Bill
    • Replies: @Blinky Bill
    @DNS

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-96/#comment-3587590

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @Blinky Bill

  203. @DNS
    https://twitter.com/ZichenWanghere/status/1399259453162082305

    Replies: @Blinky Bill

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Blinky Bill

    Easier said than done. Humans cannot be ordered to breed, but they can be prevented from doing so. Suppressing is easy, stimulating not so much.

    Replies: @DNS, @Svevlad

    , @Blinky Bill
    @Blinky Bill


    Perhaps it takes a special kind of person to be moved by such thoughts. Racial writer Richard McCulloch tried to introduce the term ‘racial empath’ to describe those with the keenest sensitivity to their racial-cultural group’s interests and fortunes.
     


    https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/masonry/001/613/570/3d4.gif

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

  204. Bashibuzuk says:
    @Mr. Hack
    @silviosilver

    The only problem that I can see with Bashibuzuk's deep lament of the passing of a Slavic cultural space between "the Altai and the Elbe" is that no such unified entity ever really existed. In the beginning, there were 2-3 large branches of Slavs divided into something like 15- 20 separate tribes. Once state consolidation started to take place, you had many separate quarreling principalities and then finally two large Slavic states (Poland and Russia) that reached high levels of cultural achievement and competition. To a greater or lesser extent, for better or for worse, the idea of a nation/states is losing its utility and appeal for a vast majority of earth's citizenry.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    I don’t really care for nations and states, which have only lasted for a few centuries and are now already becoming brittle and falling into pieces. I care about genetic lineages, cultural spaces attached to them and they developing into unique and transcendent expressions of human consciousness.

    These areas of human existential experiences do not have to be unified, unification stiffens their development. They have to be congruent and harmonious in their evolution. Slavdom has never been unified, Great Scythia accross the Steppe, Celtic world stretching from the Bosphorus to Irish Sea and Germanic lebensraum spanning the expanse between the Scandinavian and Central European forests: neither of these was unified. But they were alive as none of their postmodern derivatives is today.

    [MORE]

    Unification and standardization kills human spirit. Perhaps that is why Rome and Byzantium ended up falling down under the German and Steppe-dweller onslaught, while Imperial China ended up conquered by the Tungusic barbarian Manchus who made it into a chimera of itself. This is why the Berber Tamazgha, that existed for perhaps some 5000 years between the Atlantic (including the Canary Islands) and the Nile, faded in some 500 years into irrelevance under the normalizing leaden blanket of Islamic narrative.

    They and others lived, died, fought, built and destroyed, while they increased in numbers and culture, they might have evolved each into a unique historical living experience that would have lasted for tens thousand of years spanning past and future. But they got organized, unified, suppressed and oppressed into normalized Empires, nations and states and now they’re dying as unique human ensembles and becoming just part and parcel of future hi-tech globalized posthuman civilization which is being born before our very eyes.

    • Agree: Yellowface Anon
    • Replies: @Morton's toes
    @Bashibuzuk


    I don’t really care for nations and states, which have only lasted for a few centuries and are now already becoming brittle and falling into pieces.
     
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1557863687/

    Who benefits? Admirals and generals and shipbuilders and cannon forgers, primarily. Disclaimer: Tilly seemed to think what Marx wrote was like the inerrant words of Moses or something. He was the guy who made popular (not sure if this was original) that quip our history teachers spewed: a language is a dialect backed up by an army and a navy. Which is polemic but still it's pretty funny! : )
  205. @Blinky Bill
    @DNS

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-96/#comment-3587590

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @Blinky Bill

    Easier said than done. Humans cannot be ordered to breed, but they can be prevented from doing so. Suppressing is easy, stimulating not so much.

    • Replies: @DNS
    @Bashibuzuk

    Review the "Decision on Optimizing Fertility Policies to Promote Long-term and Balanced Population Development"



    The meeting emphasized that party committees and governments at all levels should strengthen overall planning, policy coordination and work implementation, organize the implementation of the three-child birth policy in accordance with the law, promote the coordination of birth policies and related economic and social policies, and improve the population impact assessment mechanism of major economic and social policies. We must consider marriage, childbirth, parenting, and education, strengthen the education and guidance of marriage and family views of married youths, control bad social customs such as bad marriages, high-priced gifts, improve the level of prenatal and post-natal care services, and develop a universal childcare service system....
     
    China is probably the only major country in the world with the means to not just create financial incentives for couples having children, but also social incentives. Other countries like Hungary seem to be limited to the realm of the financial.

    Also, will LKY's wisdom be considered?

    EUGENICS ON THE RISE:
    A REPORT FROM SINGAPORE

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @FerW

    , @Svevlad
    @Bashibuzuk

    If the cattle don't want to play ball, then a ball shall be made anyway.

    Instead of trying to make a bunch of idiotic mankurts breed, I would just invest in artificial wombs and cloning. The populace would then be harvested to make a new one, that isn't vulnerable to mental pollution of idiotic ideas, or dumb feelings, and all other things that caused this in the first place.

    It's the only way to save humanity from guaranteed extinction. We'll finally stop Cthulu from swimming to the left constantly - by getting rid of him entirely.

  206. @Blinky Bill
    @DNS

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-96/#comment-3587590

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @Blinky Bill

    Perhaps it takes a special kind of person to be moved by such thoughts. Racial writer Richard McCulloch tried to introduce the term ‘racial empath’ to describe those with the keenest sensitivity to their racial-cultural group’s interests and fortunes.

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Blinky Bill

    Yep, but actually no. See my reply to Mr Hack above. What is happening to Han Chinese is not something I would like seeing emulated anywhere, much less so in Slavic realm.



    https://ampravda.ru/2006/06/29/05315.html

    This is one of these rare instances when Dugin was more right than wrong.

  207. Bashibuzuk says:
    @Blinky Bill
    @Blinky Bill


    Perhaps it takes a special kind of person to be moved by such thoughts. Racial writer Richard McCulloch tried to introduce the term ‘racial empath’ to describe those with the keenest sensitivity to their racial-cultural group’s interests and fortunes.
     


    https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/masonry/001/613/570/3d4.gif

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    Yep, but actually no. See my reply to Mr Hack above. What is happening to Han Chinese is not something I would like seeing emulated anywhere, much less so in Slavic realm.

    [MORE]

    https://ampravda.ru/2006/06/29/05315.html

    This is one of these rare instances when Dugin was more right than wrong.

  208. @songbird
    What to make of Cardano?

    Somehow I got the impression that it might become a social credit coin, to help disburse foreign aid to the most cooperative Africans, in return for their assistance in helping to facilitate the extraction of minerals. From wikipedia:

    IOHK announced a partnership with the Ethiopian government in 2018 to deploy their technology in a variety of industries throughout the country.[25] In April 2021, IOHK and the Ethiopia Ministry of Education announced plans to launch an identity and record-keeping system on Cardano for the country's five million students.[26]
     
    But perhaps, more realistically that would be the Digital Yuan? I think a state-backed coin might be the most likely to fulfill this role, and I believe the Chinese will have the most heft going forward.

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin

    What to make of Cardano?

    Well, it’s vaporware. 🙂

    I don’t have a high opinion about it. Its driven by hype and its price will probably crash whenever smart contracts do come out on it.

    Hoskinson is also a weirdo.

    [MORE]

    • Thanks: songbird
  209. @Lokke
    @Anatoly Karlin

    I guess Sovoks make up the vast majority of the people who claim to be Russian nationalists online then. Feel free to be an arrogant prick and ignore any "advice", but don't be shocked if you suddenly find the streets of Moscow and St. Petersburg are occupied by hundreds of thousands of soyboys and whores demanding liberation and infinity penises as we are now seeing in Poland. It happens faster than you think. Russia's social and economic system isn`t really fundamentally different from the western one. Hollow nationalism is unsustainable in the long run, and I don't have to be a specialist in Russian affairs to know that.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @Anatoly Karlin

    Western rightoids lost their own countries, don’t even understand what happened (hint: It’s not nationalism, hollow or otherwise, that drives liberalism in Poland), but for some really weird reason feel qualified to lecture my own.

    They can to hell IMO.

    • Agree: TheTotallyAnonymous
    • Replies: @Znzn
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Well Russia is more corrupt than China according to the corruption perceptions index. And Russia could well have afforded a much more expansionary fiscal and monetary policy during the 1 to 2 percent growth years, which could have lifted GDP growth by 2 percent or more over the past 5 years or so, I mean China has private debt of 300 percent of GDP and everyone here just hand waves it away. As for the Greens in Germany the business lobby will reign them in and moderate them, so German industry will still do more than fine whatever the case may be.

    , @Passer by
    @Anatoly Karlin


    It’s not nationalism, hollow or otherwise, that drives liberalism in Poland
     
    Can you elaborate more on that, if you have time? I'm interested in those issues, including in the factors causing liberalism growth. I have some knowledge on how those processes work, but i think that i will learn something useful from your different perspective.

    Thank you.

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin

  210. DNS says:
    @Bashibuzuk
    @Blinky Bill

    Easier said than done. Humans cannot be ordered to breed, but they can be prevented from doing so. Suppressing is easy, stimulating not so much.

    Replies: @DNS, @Svevlad

    Review the “Decision on Optimizing Fertility Policies to Promote Long-term and Balanced Population Development”

    The meeting emphasized that party committees and governments at all levels should strengthen overall planning, policy coordination and work implementation, organize the implementation of the three-child birth policy in accordance with the law, promote the coordination of birth policies and related economic and social policies, and improve the population impact assessment mechanism of major economic and social policies. We must consider marriage, childbirth, parenting, and education, strengthen the education and guidance of marriage and family views of married youths, control bad social customs such as bad marriages, high-priced gifts, improve the level of prenatal and post-natal care services, and develop a universal childcare service system….

    China is probably the only major country in the world with the means to not just create financial incentives for couples having children, but also social incentives. Other countries like Hungary seem to be limited to the realm of the financial.

    Also, will LKY’s wisdom be considered?

    EUGENICS ON THE RISE:
    A REPORT FROM SINGAPORE

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @DNS

    Well, how is Singapore doing on the fertility side of affairs?

    Especially among the Chinese elite?

    CCP sees itself as the measure of all things Han, but they will eventually realize that they cannot substitute themselves to the Mandate of Heaven.

    When Heaven is just atmosphere, there's no Mandate coming out of it. That is why materialistic ideologies always end up in a dead end.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling, @Svevlad

    , @FerW
    @DNS

    I have read elsewhere that they included something or other about "women's rights in employment" and egalitarian this or that... Not sure if "retarded or just pretending".

  211. @Bashibuzuk
    @Lokke

    I actually agree with a lot of what you wrote. RusFed (as distinguished from the Holy Russia that exited before the Time of Troubles) is a toxic byproduct of Westernization. Despite whatever RusFed elites claim, whatever propaganda they throw at the gullible, despite whatever their mouthpieces blather, they are neither nationalist nor conservative. They aren't even patriotic, their posturing is bogus and empty.

    They are fully integrated into the globalized economy, enjoying its riches to the fullest. The only thing they argue about with their "Western Partners " is the piece of the pie they would get from the extractive economy they have imposed upon the Russian people and other ethnic groups native to the Russian territory.

    This globalized economic model is inevitably leading to the demise of the Slavs. The way it goes, the Slav population will probably be half of what it is today in a hundred years. But the majority of Slavs do not care about their own culture and people survival anymore. They have no roots and see no future. This is sad, but quite convenient for the globalized predatory elites.

    All these thousand years of living, dying, fighting in the immense territory between the Altai and the Elbe just to disappear like a shadow lost in the twilight of history. This is tragic, but do not hope for someone like Karlin to fully appreciate the tragedy unfolding before our very eyes. He is not Slav and as a transhumanist he is more preoccupied with an illusive future than with a fading past.

    Past has no value for rootless people...

    Replies: @silviosilver, @Anatoly Karlin, @Svevlad

    You are a pagan larper whom ~95% of Russians would regard as a freak. But you do you.

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Jedem das Seine!

    I am what I am and I entirely assume myself. That's the difference between the two of us. Perhaps it is the age difference and the difference in our life experiences.

    Жизнь прожить не реку перейти.

    But don't despair, you have the intellect to evolve towards something that you will be proud of. I personally have faith in you Tolik: I easily envision you commenting about IQ, technology, HBD, sexual minorities and transhumanism on RT.

    У тебя всё ещё впереди.

    🙂

    (PS: funny how on your 2019 thread, that Blinky posted a link to, the picture of your computer screen was displaying the warm smile of Uncle Adi, while now you are fighting the muh evil Nazis online...)

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin, @Philip Owen

    , @AP
    @Anatoly Karlin


    You are a pagan larper
     
    In fairness to him, he has correctly identified pagans as post-modern LARPers and accordingly linked them to Nazis whom he despises.

    My take is that he has adopted the only intelligent Slavic ultra-extremist position. So he wants get rid of the faith that originated outside Slavic lands. However, Paganism died 1000 years ago, no one remembers it’s theology, he is intelligent and thoughtful enough to know that by definition a turn to paganism will be LARPing. So what to do? For him - adopt an Indo-European religion. The only living Indo-European faiths are Zoroastrianism, Hinduism, and Buddhism. Buddhism was founded by a Scythian/Aryan, in Buddha’s time Scythians and proto-Slavs may have been rather similar culturally and linguistically.

    It’s a weird, but logical solution for someone wanting to cleanse his Slavic self of non-Slavic spirituality. As a bonus, Buddhism is an official religion in Russia (albeit one practiced by non-Indo-Europeans).

    I am curious Bashibuzuk - what do you think of Zoroastrianism? Why did you not choose that for yourself?

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @AltanBakshi

    , @TheTotallyAnonymous
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Wasn't Bashibuzuk going on a few open threads ago about how he was a "devout Russian Orthodox Christian nationalist" who personally witnessed the 1993 turmoil when Yeltsin sent tanks on the Russian Duma?

    Considering how radically his perspectives are changing, he's either completely unprincipled, some sort of deliberate troll/agent, or just completely retarded (or perhaps some combination).

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin

  212. Bashibuzuk says:
    @DNS
    @Bashibuzuk

    Review the "Decision on Optimizing Fertility Policies to Promote Long-term and Balanced Population Development"



    The meeting emphasized that party committees and governments at all levels should strengthen overall planning, policy coordination and work implementation, organize the implementation of the three-child birth policy in accordance with the law, promote the coordination of birth policies and related economic and social policies, and improve the population impact assessment mechanism of major economic and social policies. We must consider marriage, childbirth, parenting, and education, strengthen the education and guidance of marriage and family views of married youths, control bad social customs such as bad marriages, high-priced gifts, improve the level of prenatal and post-natal care services, and develop a universal childcare service system....
     
    China is probably the only major country in the world with the means to not just create financial incentives for couples having children, but also social incentives. Other countries like Hungary seem to be limited to the realm of the financial.

    Also, will LKY's wisdom be considered?

    EUGENICS ON THE RISE:
    A REPORT FROM SINGAPORE

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @FerW

    Well, how is Singapore doing on the fertility side of affairs?

    Especially among the Chinese elite?

    CCP sees itself as the measure of all things Han, but they will eventually realize that they cannot substitute themselves to the Mandate of Heaven.

    When Heaven is just atmosphere, there’s no Mandate coming out of it. That is why materialistic ideologies always end up in a dead end.

    • Agree: Yellowface Anon
    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @Bashibuzuk


    Well, how is Singapore doing on the fertility side of affairs?

    Especially among the Chinese elite?
     
    Spandrell of the Bloody Shovel blog, the guy who came up with the Bioleninism concept, says Singapore is an "IQ shredder," attracts smart people who don't end up breeding. Here's his 2013 post on that thesis.
    , @Svevlad
    @Bashibuzuk


    When Heaven is just atmosphere, there’s no Mandate coming out of it. That is why materialistic ideologies always end up in a dead end.
     
    But what if we had a materialistic world-view, without the ideology? As a matter of fact, have no ideology at all.

    The Pashtun seem to be doing fine - their culture is just collective Machiavellianism. Very based. (see comment #2: https://www.gnxp.com/WordPress/2021/05/20/the-jewel-and-the-dragon-and-the-fight-against-the-coming-darkness/#comments )
  213. Bashibuzuk says:
    @Anatoly Karlin
    @Bashibuzuk

    You are a pagan larper whom ~95% of Russians would regard as a freak. But you do you.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @AP, @TheTotallyAnonymous

    Jedem das Seine!

    I am what I am and I entirely assume myself. That’s the difference between the two of us. Perhaps it is the age difference and the difference in our life experiences.

    Жизнь прожить не реку перейти.

    But don’t despair, you have the intellect to evolve towards something that you will be proud of. I personally have faith in you Tolik: I easily envision you commenting about IQ, technology, HBD, sexual minorities and transhumanism on RT.

    У тебя всё ещё впереди.

    🙂

    (PS: funny how on your 2019 thread, that Blinky posted a link to, the picture of your computer screen was displaying the warm smile of Uncle Adi, while now you are fighting the muh evil Nazis online…)

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
    @Bashibuzuk

    On Nazi opposition to psychometrics, to be precise.

    https://www.unz.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/peak-optics.jpg

    So, just the typical rightoid obscurantism.


    while now you are fighting the muh evil Nazis online…
     
    All I did was point out that Protasevich was a Neo-Nazi (how you react to that is up to you). But again, it is instructive how eagerly you leap to the defense of anti-Russian scum. You rarely seem to fail to do so. (In between sanctimoniously weeping about the "disappearance" of Slavs and parroting Western takes about Russian shithouses).

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    , @Philip Owen
    @Bashibuzuk

    Patronising? In my experience perceptive 12 year olds can be worth attention and many 70 year olds have repeated their 12 th year 58 times.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

  214. @Bashibuzuk
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Jedem das Seine!

    I am what I am and I entirely assume myself. That's the difference between the two of us. Perhaps it is the age difference and the difference in our life experiences.

    Жизнь прожить не реку перейти.

    But don't despair, you have the intellect to evolve towards something that you will be proud of. I personally have faith in you Tolik: I easily envision you commenting about IQ, technology, HBD, sexual minorities and transhumanism on RT.

    У тебя всё ещё впереди.

    🙂

    (PS: funny how on your 2019 thread, that Blinky posted a link to, the picture of your computer screen was displaying the warm smile of Uncle Adi, while now you are fighting the muh evil Nazis online...)

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin, @Philip Owen

    On Nazi opposition to psychometrics, to be precise.

    So, just the typical rightoid obscurantism.

    while now you are fighting the muh evil Nazis online…

    All I did was point out that Protasevich was a Neo-Nazi (how you react to that is up to you). But again, it is instructive how eagerly you leap to the defense of anti-Russian scum. You rarely seem to fail to do so. (In between sanctimoniously weeping about the “disappearance” of Slavs and parroting Western takes about Russian shithouses).

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Where did I defend anti-Russian scum?

    I am not the one defending Putin and his buddies here.

    That's your job Tolik...

    😉

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin, @AP

  215. @Anatoly Karlin
    @Bashibuzuk

    On Nazi opposition to psychometrics, to be precise.

    https://www.unz.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/peak-optics.jpg

    So, just the typical rightoid obscurantism.


    while now you are fighting the muh evil Nazis online…
     
    All I did was point out that Protasevich was a Neo-Nazi (how you react to that is up to you). But again, it is instructive how eagerly you leap to the defense of anti-Russian scum. You rarely seem to fail to do so. (In between sanctimoniously weeping about the "disappearance" of Slavs and parroting Western takes about Russian shithouses).

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    Where did I defend anti-Russian scum?

    I am not the one defending Putin and his buddies here.

    That’s your job Tolik…

    😉

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
    @Bashibuzuk

    Which "muh evil Nazis" do you claim I am fighting?

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    , @AP
    @Bashibuzuk


    Where did I defend anti-Russian scum?

    I am not the one defending Putin and his buddies here.
     
    How can Putin be “anti-Russian scum” when according to almost every measure Russia has improved significantly under his rule? Sure, he has stabilized the situation for the 90s oligarch-thieves, securing their role (or their children’s role) as Russia’s new elite, and this is distasteful and unfair. The nobility also often had rough and unsavory beginnings. For example - families descended from Rus druzhyna who were exploiting and selling East Slavic slaves to the Arabs, after all. But the direction of the Russian state and society has in general been positive. Much more so then in most of the rest of the world, at least.

    Yes, Putin has done things to splinter the Slavs, he is a champion of narrow Russian-Muscovite interests rather than some sort of true pan-Slavist. But that of course is not an anti-Russian.

    Replies: @Znzn, @Znzn, @Dmitry

  216. @Bashibuzuk
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Where did I defend anti-Russian scum?

    I am not the one defending Putin and his buddies here.

    That's your job Tolik...

    😉

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin, @AP

    Which “muh evil Nazis” do you claim I am fighting?

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Well, as of late you are in general dismissive of everything far right, not only Neonazi. You are more than often deriding populists, "rightoids", "obscurantists", stupid "anti-vaxxers", MAGA people etc.

    OTOH you seem to get along fine with Klaus Shwab's perspective about the way things need be moving forward. This is of course completely understandable from a transhumanist point of view. Transhumanism being a technicist philosophy taken to its extreme limits, while technicism being a subtype of progressism incompatible with any form of Traditionalism.

    Transhumanists should walk in the first lines of BLM and LGBTQ marches and they actually often do. Theirs is not a "blood and soil" conception of a people as an organic, natural development of an ethnic type from past immemorial and towards the stars. They see people as basically a bunch of biological machines.

    You are more and more in line with this way of looking at things, while I have been Traditionalist for many years already and I am becoming even more grounded in this philosophy/ideology as years pass by. That is why I wrote that I accept and assume myself, while you don't.

    But it's okay. Different people have different needs. And I don't mind you getting angry against me when I write things that make you feel uncomfortable.

    (BTW, I notice that you steer this exchange of comments away from your support of all things Putin.)

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin, @Anatoly Karlin, @Dmitry

  217. Bashibuzuk says:
    @Anatoly Karlin
    @Bashibuzuk

    Which "muh evil Nazis" do you claim I am fighting?

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    Well, as of late you are in general dismissive of everything far right, not only Neonazi. You are more than often deriding populists, “rightoids”, “obscurantists”, stupid “anti-vaxxers”, MAGA people etc.

    OTOH you seem to get along fine with Klaus Shwab’s perspective about the way things need be moving forward. This is of course completely understandable from a transhumanist point of view. Transhumanism being a technicist philosophy taken to its extreme limits, while technicism being a subtype of progressism incompatible with any form of Traditionalism.

    Transhumanists should walk in the first lines of BLM and LGBTQ marches and they actually often do. Theirs is not a “blood and soil” conception of a people as an organic, natural development of an ethnic type from past immemorial and towards the stars. They see people as basically a bunch of biological machines.

    You are more and more in line with this way of looking at things, while I have been Traditionalist for many years already and I am becoming even more grounded in this philosophy/ideology as years pass by. That is why I wrote that I accept and assume myself, while you don’t.

    But it’s okay. Different people have different needs. And I don’t mind you getting angry against me when I write things that make you feel uncomfortable.

    (BTW, I notice that you steer this exchange of comments away from your support of all things Putin.)

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
    @Bashibuzuk

    I asked you a concrete question. Which "muh evil Nazis"?

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    , @Anatoly Karlin
    @Bashibuzuk


    OTOH you seem to get along fine with Klaus Shwab’s perspective about the way things need be moving forward. This is of course completely understandable from a transhumanist point of view. Transhumanism being a technicist philosophy taken to its extreme limits, while technicism being a subtype of progressism incompatible with any form of Traditionalism.
     
    I would have been vastly richer today had I read Klaus Schwab as opposed to entertaining rightoids.

    He identified Chainlink 5 years ago.

    https://twitter.com/akarlin88/status/1375953228614008837

    Next best time to disassociate from "populists, “rightoids”, “obscurantists”, stupid “anti-vaxxers”, MAGA people" is now. Unlike /pol/, who at least don't take themselves too seriously, these people aren't even any fun to be around with.

    And I don’t mind you getting angry against me when I write things that make you feel uncomfortable.
     
    You flatter yourself. Your purposeless lies and innuendos do get tiring (that I'm not a Slav being but the latest bizarre assertion), but then again, it's a few out of thousands of comments. 🤷

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @TheTotallyAnonymous

    , @Dmitry
    @Bashibuzuk

    Isn't the concept of transhumanism, that we should be able to transform ourselves into robotic dragon or at least some kind of technological version of a demigod like Achilles - and that we should prioritize technological development that will enable this.

    A priori, it should be attractive and life improving (robotic dragons likely have better standards of living than humans) for the majority of people, unlike the unpromising transgenderism, which at best offers a not very desirable operation to cut off beloved bodyparts and inject the wrong hormones.

    But the problem with transhumanism for us, is that we are unluckily in the wrong century.

    Being transhumanist in the 21st century, is like being a video game fan in the 19th century, or an aviation enthusiast in the 17th century.

    While transhumanism is technologically possible and even likely in the future, there's probably nothing interesting and lifeimproving that can accessible within the timespan of people of our generation, or even our children's and grandchildren's.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

  218. @Bashibuzuk
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Well, as of late you are in general dismissive of everything far right, not only Neonazi. You are more than often deriding populists, "rightoids", "obscurantists", stupid "anti-vaxxers", MAGA people etc.

    OTOH you seem to get along fine with Klaus Shwab's perspective about the way things need be moving forward. This is of course completely understandable from a transhumanist point of view. Transhumanism being a technicist philosophy taken to its extreme limits, while technicism being a subtype of progressism incompatible with any form of Traditionalism.

    Transhumanists should walk in the first lines of BLM and LGBTQ marches and they actually often do. Theirs is not a "blood and soil" conception of a people as an organic, natural development of an ethnic type from past immemorial and towards the stars. They see people as basically a bunch of biological machines.

    You are more and more in line with this way of looking at things, while I have been Traditionalist for many years already and I am becoming even more grounded in this philosophy/ideology as years pass by. That is why I wrote that I accept and assume myself, while you don't.

    But it's okay. Different people have different needs. And I don't mind you getting angry against me when I write things that make you feel uncomfortable.

    (BTW, I notice that you steer this exchange of comments away from your support of all things Putin.)

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin, @Anatoly Karlin, @Dmitry

    I asked you a concrete question. Which “muh evil Nazis”?

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Anatoly Karlin

    https://www.ebay.ca/itm/184798725964

    https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4694712

    Well you sure didn't support these.

    I put the links instead of pictures so you don't end up accused of "promoting Fascism " and "supporting terrorist organizations forbidden on the territory of the RusFed" by some over zealous comrade major from the FSB who is (only) hunting dissidents online to boost his/her career prospects.

    BTW, I hope that 88 in your Twitter nickname is your year of birth and not a thinly veiled reference to Uncle Adi's initials. Perhaps it's better to change it to 69 instead, just to make sure it's more acceptable by the non-rightoid masses.

    🙂

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin

  219. AP says:
    @Bashibuzuk
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Where did I defend anti-Russian scum?

    I am not the one defending Putin and his buddies here.

    That's your job Tolik...

    😉

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin, @AP

    Where did I defend anti-Russian scum?

    I am not the one defending Putin and his buddies here.

    How can Putin be “anti-Russian scum” when according to almost every measure Russia has improved significantly under his rule? Sure, he has stabilized the situation for the 90s oligarch-thieves, securing their role (or their children’s role) as Russia’s new elite, and this is distasteful and unfair. The nobility also often had rough and unsavory beginnings. For example – families descended from Rus druzhyna who were exploiting and selling East Slavic slaves to the Arabs, after all. But the direction of the Russian state and society has in general been positive. Much more so then in most of the rest of the world, at least.

    Yes, Putin has done things to splinter the Slavs, he is a champion of narrow Russian-Muscovite interests rather than some sort of true pan-Slavist. But that of course is not an anti-Russian.

    • Replies: @Znzn
    @AP

    Well Russia is more corrupt than China according to the corruption perceptions index.

    Replies: @AP

    , @Znzn
    @AP

    Western economies are not doing that bad, and in fact, has been showing better growth than Russia when you look at GDP figures. I can also show a bunch of figures showing that the port of Rotterdam or Long Beach/Seattle has not been doing that badly all these years.

    Replies: @mal

    , @Dmitry
    @AP

    20th century Russian history looked like it was an attempt to model on the lifecycle of Indian Jumping Ants.

    I'll add a quote from an article in "The Atlantic" about the lifecycle of this species of ants.


    For most ant species, nothing spells apocalypse quite like the death of a queen. A colony stripped of its monarch, the group’s only fertile female and the sole source of eggs, quickly unravels, then dies—an entire society snuffed out. The captain does not go down with her ship; the ship goes down with her captain.

    Indian jumping ants do not abide by such dictatorial dramatics. They’ve evolved a work-around to indefinitely forestall their colonies’ demise. Within hours of their queen’s death, female workers will begin to joust, fencing with their antennae, and nipping at each other’s heads. These dominance tournaments can last for more than a month, until, at long last, a dozen or so champions triumph. While the losers slink away to resume their workerly duties, the victors cast aside their former peasant status and become a new class of pseudo-royals called gamergates. The queen phase of the colony ends, and the gamergate phase begins: Monarchy transforms into oligarchy, and new gamergates step up as each generation dies. In this way, “colonies can be immortal, theoretically,” Clint Penick, an entomologist at Kennesaw State University in Georgia, told me. They have been, so far, in the labs where he’s studied them.

    The consequences of these tiny tussles range from the sociopolitical to the molecular. In earning the title of gamergate (pronounced gamm-ər-gayt), a female ant gains nearly exclusive rights to her colony’s reproductive responsibilities; she is among the very few of her sisters that can fertilize their eggs with the sperm of their brothers, the only available males. The transition rewires worker ants, altering their behavior and physiology until they become docile, nursery-bound “egg-laying machines,” Penick said. Gamergates stop leaving the nest. They lose their food-foraging chops and the will to hunt, relegating themselves instead to the darkness of their underground chambers, where they churn out eggs. They feast exclusively on the paralyzed prey served to them by workers...

    Given the triple threat of casual incest, sororal dueling, and what amounts to a self-inflicted prenatal lobotomy, the whole affair might sound a touch unpalatable to us humans. But in some ways, being a gamergate is downright cushy. These ants are the colony’s VIPs, and their social status is abundantly clear. When gamergates stroll among their subjects, they walk slowly and deliberately, standing high on their legs; workers scuttle out of their way to make room. “They have a royal attitude” about them, Jürgen Liebig, an animal behaviorist at Arizona State University and Penick’s former adviser, told me. “Once you know what to look for, it’s very conspicuous."


    https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/04/ant-brain-reversible-shrinking/618578/

     

    Final paragraph quotes above, skips us into 21st century, but misses the raison d'être - to breakdown relations with the neighbouring anthill, and anonymously send your children to some of the more comfortable parts of it.

    Putin be “anti-Russian scum” when according to almost every measure Russia

     

    Ano4/Bashibuzuk says that he is a sympathizer to nationalism, although in reality he seems to be very cosmopolitan and friendly writer (whereas I assume that nationalists will be unfriendly and ant-social). Under Putin, the authorities have eliminated nationalist politics from Russia, and so for people with nationalist sympathies call Putin anti-Russian. ​

    Ruling ideology since Putin, is a multiculturalist, and this is the because it is the ideology that provides the higher level of political stability in the Russian Federation (that operates as a federative structure and relies partly on imported labour).

    Putin's project has been one of stabilization, his government is adjusting all the time to find an "optimal" mix of ideology that would satisfy a largest section of Russian citizens.

    I'm not following this topic (or any politics in Russia), but it seems like there has recently been some ideological astroturfing to pretend that a nationalism “jar” is not missing from the cupboard of contemporary politics, and this has been by relabelling the imperialism jar as “nationalism” and pretending it has the same contents, and hoping that people won’t notice the difference of taste between nationalism (that has been suppressed) and imperialism (which in a soft form is being assimilated as part of official ideology).

    This carries us to a general point about Putin's strengths and weakness - that he was born from the KGB. His profession is an officer of the KGB and he worked during difficult times of the Cold War. He is attuned to the ideological and popular information space, international contests, etc.

    But these professionals are not concerned about fundamentals, that you can become attuned to if your background is in professions that related to real world (e.g. engineering), or even from working in competitive conditions (such as in private sector) where your business can fail.

    -


    People in Russia from a certain rapidly aging generation, can remember 10-15 years ago when they were promised all kinds of hype about careers in futures industries, and leadership in high-tech, etc.

    For the authorities, these promises are very ephemeral, disposable products, that are forgotten with a few years.

    On the other hand, if you looked in countries like the UK, you see the adequate confitions for investments in future industries, hi-tech, etc, that exceed the kind of promises that Medvedev had used to made.

    Denis Sverdlov seems quite a historically representative example (in Hegelian sense), as he was founder of Yota, and began the Yotafon project, that in 2013 saw Medvedev claim is going to be a rival of Apple. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0oR480DX8M.

    Kind muses of history gave him $10 billion, making him as wealthy as Steve Jobs, but contra Medvedev this wealth was not from Yotafon, but the kind of money that grows like mushrooms in a field outside Oxford (speculative crazy money based on electric vehicle hype ).

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @Znzn, @mal

  220. @AP
    @Bashibuzuk


    Where did I defend anti-Russian scum?

    I am not the one defending Putin and his buddies here.
     
    How can Putin be “anti-Russian scum” when according to almost every measure Russia has improved significantly under his rule? Sure, he has stabilized the situation for the 90s oligarch-thieves, securing their role (or their children’s role) as Russia’s new elite, and this is distasteful and unfair. The nobility also often had rough and unsavory beginnings. For example - families descended from Rus druzhyna who were exploiting and selling East Slavic slaves to the Arabs, after all. But the direction of the Russian state and society has in general been positive. Much more so then in most of the rest of the world, at least.

    Yes, Putin has done things to splinter the Slavs, he is a champion of narrow Russian-Muscovite interests rather than some sort of true pan-Slavist. But that of course is not an anti-Russian.

    Replies: @Znzn, @Znzn, @Dmitry

    Well Russia is more corrupt than China according to the corruption perceptions index.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Znzn

    Of course. That preceded Putin and will outlive him. Russians are more like Italians than like Chinese or Japanese.

    Replies: @Znzn, @mal

  221. @Bashibuzuk
    @Mr. Hack

    I don't really care for nations and states, which have only lasted for a few centuries and are now already becoming brittle and falling into pieces. I care about genetic lineages, cultural spaces attached to them and they developing into unique and transcendent expressions of human consciousness.

    These areas of human existential experiences do not have to be unified, unification stiffens their development. They have to be congruent and harmonious in their evolution. Slavdom has never been unified, Great Scythia accross the Steppe, Celtic world stretching from the Bosphorus to Irish Sea and Germanic lebensraum spanning the expanse between the Scandinavian and Central European forests: neither of these was unified. But they were alive as none of their postmodern derivatives is today.



    Unification and standardization kills human spirit. Perhaps that is why Rome and Byzantium ended up falling down under the German and Steppe-dweller onslaught, while Imperial China ended up conquered by the Tungusic barbarian Manchus who made it into a chimera of itself. This is why the Berber Tamazgha, that existed for perhaps some 5000 years between the Atlantic (including the Canary Islands) and the Nile, faded in some 500 years into irrelevance under the normalizing leaden blanket of Islamic narrative.

    They and others lived, died, fought, built and destroyed, while they increased in numbers and culture, they might have evolved each into a unique historical living experience that would have lasted for tens thousand of years spanning past and future. But they got organized, unified, suppressed and oppressed into normalized Empires, nations and states and now they're dying as unique human ensembles and becoming just part and parcel of future hi-tech globalized posthuman civilization which is being born before our very eyes.

    Replies: @Morton's toes

    I don’t really care for nations and states, which have only lasted for a few centuries and are now already becoming brittle and falling into pieces.

    Who benefits? Admirals and generals and shipbuilders and cannon forgers, primarily. Disclaimer: Tilly seemed to think what Marx wrote was like the inerrant words of Moses or something. He was the guy who made popular (not sure if this was original) that quip our history teachers spewed: a language is a dialect backed up by an army and a navy. Which is polemic but still it’s pretty funny! : )

  222. Znzn says:
    @Anatoly Karlin
    @Lokke

    Western rightoids lost their own countries, don't even understand what happened (hint: It's not nationalism, hollow or otherwise, that drives liberalism in Poland), but for some really weird reason feel qualified to lecture my own.

    They can to hell IMO.

    Replies: @Znzn, @Passer by

    Well Russia is more corrupt than China according to the corruption perceptions index. And Russia could well have afforded a much more expansionary fiscal and monetary policy during the 1 to 2 percent growth years, which could have lifted GDP growth by 2 percent or more over the past 5 years or so, I mean China has private debt of 300 percent of GDP and everyone here just hand waves it away. As for the Greens in Germany the business lobby will reign them in and moderate them, so German industry will still do more than fine whatever the case may be.

  223. AP says:
    @Anatoly Karlin
    @Bashibuzuk

    You are a pagan larper whom ~95% of Russians would regard as a freak. But you do you.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @AP, @TheTotallyAnonymous

    You are a pagan larper

    In fairness to him, he has correctly identified pagans as post-modern LARPers and accordingly linked them to Nazis whom he despises.

    My take is that he has adopted the only intelligent Slavic ultra-extremist position. So he wants get rid of the faith that originated outside Slavic lands. However, Paganism died 1000 years ago, no one remembers it’s theology, he is intelligent and thoughtful enough to know that by definition a turn to paganism will be LARPing. So what to do? For him – adopt an Indo-European religion. The only living Indo-European faiths are Zoroastrianism, Hinduism, and Buddhism. Buddhism was founded by a Scythian/Aryan, in Buddha’s time Scythians and proto-Slavs may have been rather similar culturally and linguistically.

    It’s a weird, but logical solution for someone wanting to cleanse his Slavic self of non-Slavic spirituality. As a bonus, Buddhism is an official religion in Russia (albeit one practiced by non-Indo-Europeans).

    I am curious Bashibuzuk – what do you think of Zoroastrianism? Why did you not choose that for yourself?

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @AP


    I am curious Bashibuzuk – what do you think of Zoroastrianism? Why did you not choose that for yourself?
     
    I think that Mazdayasna is a great spiritual tradition that had exerted a strong and positive influence on Abrahamic Religions. I have had the pleasure of discovering the teaching of Zoroaster when I was rather young, perhaps around 15 years old, by borrowing a book from the personal collection of one of my parents' friends who is a specialist of Indian and Iranian cultures. I have also read an abridged Russian translation of Shahnameh when I was probably 13 - 14 years old. I feel a strong sense of respect towards ancient Iranian culture and have never thought of Persian people as backward or barbaric, something a lot of European people unfortunately tend to do because of their ignorance coupled with a Greco-Roman heritage.



    Later on, I also got acquainted with the Manichaean syncretism that fused Christian Gnosticism with Zoroastrian dualism and some aspects of Buddhism. I would say that Manichaeism was even more striking in its outtake on Reality than Zoroastrianism. And I later learned that a Slavic version of Manichaeism existed, which was the Bogumil heresy that influenced Albigeois Cathars and for a time presented a credible threat to Byzantine Orthodox Christianity.

    But as great as these spiritual traditions were, there was something about them that I came to see as a fatal flaw. Dualism, eternal dichotomy of good and evil passing through all aspects of existence, including our mind and soul. I could not stand it : seeing the whole world as an eternal fight between light and darkness was too unsettling, too extreme. I cannot imagine that the Reality is not in its final definition One.

    Ch'an is going beyond dualism and restores harmony - I chose Ch'an.

    But a very important contemporary Russian nationalist thinker, Konstantin Krylov was a practicing convert to Mazdayasna. He was very serious about his faith and I believe that helped him through difficult times. He passed away last year and I am pretty certain that his spirit is today in the Gardens of Light.
    , @AltanBakshi
    @AP


    I am curious Bashibuzuk – what do you think of Zoroastrianism? Why did you not choose that for yourself?
     
    Traditional Zoroastrianism is even more intolerant of converts than Judaism, so there's that.

    Anyway, Bashi is still not a Buddhist from a traditional Buddhist point of view, he has not taken refuge in three Jewels of Dharma, which is the Buddhist declaration of faith, and he is very individualistic with his views on Dharma, or as an example if there would be a man who would claim to be Christian, but he is not baptized, he never goes to church and never deals with the priests, is that kind of man truly Christian? One of the Jewels of Dharma is the Sangha or Monastic community, or that is the traditional meaning of Sangha, some of us among Mahayana say that all Buddhists together form the Sangha, but that is clearly a later innovation. No matter if former or latter interpretation is correct, we are a communal religion, or maybe I am not using a right term? Collective religion? Well there are no Buddhists without Sangha, men and women who are paragons of our faith and guardians of our Dharma, with a proper line of transmission of teachings from the Buddha himself.

    Taking refuge in Three Aryan Jewels of Aryan Dharma and having Dharma transmission lineage from the Buddha is common to all proper schools of Buddhism.
  224. @Znzn
    @AP

    Well Russia is more corrupt than China according to the corruption perceptions index.

    Replies: @AP

    Of course. That preceded Putin and will outlive him. Russians are more like Italians than like Chinese or Japanese.

    • Replies: @Znzn
    @AP

    Well about global warming benefiting Russia supposedly, if the way for your country to get ahead is to trash the environment of other countries who are not as fortunate....... BTW the last time earth was warmer by 3 degrees, the entire area between the Appalachians and the Rockies had the same climate as the Australian outback. And about drugs, no Western country historically has even gone as hard on drugs as Singapore or China has. I mean what happens to drug dealers in Singapore, China, or even Indonesia or Malaysia compared to the US? I mean Singapore's location as a center of various trading routes actually makes it the ideal location to be a drug hub like Colombia or Mexico.

    , @mal
    @AP

    Nah, i see corruption being eliminated in Russia relatively soon.

    You can steal vastly more money with 'public private partnerships', 'lobbying', 'campaign contributions', 'charitable donations to foundations' and 'stock options' like they do in the West.

    Sovok elite is too dumb to understand this and still prefers cash in briefcase under the table. So they are corrupt. But they will die soon. New elite understands this well i think.

    Once the amount of money you are stealing physically can't fit under the table, you stop being corrupt and become a visionary politician. That's how its done in the West. As Russia gains strength, same process will occur there as well.

  225. @AP
    @Bashibuzuk


    Where did I defend anti-Russian scum?

    I am not the one defending Putin and his buddies here.
     
    How can Putin be “anti-Russian scum” when according to almost every measure Russia has improved significantly under his rule? Sure, he has stabilized the situation for the 90s oligarch-thieves, securing their role (or their children’s role) as Russia’s new elite, and this is distasteful and unfair. The nobility also often had rough and unsavory beginnings. For example - families descended from Rus druzhyna who were exploiting and selling East Slavic slaves to the Arabs, after all. But the direction of the Russian state and society has in general been positive. Much more so then in most of the rest of the world, at least.

    Yes, Putin has done things to splinter the Slavs, he is a champion of narrow Russian-Muscovite interests rather than some sort of true pan-Slavist. But that of course is not an anti-Russian.

    Replies: @Znzn, @Znzn, @Dmitry

    Western economies are not doing that bad, and in fact, has been showing better growth than Russia when you look at GDP figures. I can also show a bunch of figures showing that the port of Rotterdam or Long Beach/Seattle has not been doing that badly all these years.

    • Replies: @mal
    @Znzn

    Russian nominal GDP went from $196 billion in 1999 to $1.7 trillion in 2019.

    https://tradingeconomics.com/russia/GDP

    I don't think Western economies grew 8-9x in 20 years. Not even China, i think grew like that.

    Replies: @Znzn

  226. @Bashibuzuk
    @DNS

    Well, how is Singapore doing on the fertility side of affairs?

    Especially among the Chinese elite?

    CCP sees itself as the measure of all things Han, but they will eventually realize that they cannot substitute themselves to the Mandate of Heaven.

    When Heaven is just atmosphere, there's no Mandate coming out of it. That is why materialistic ideologies always end up in a dead end.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling, @Svevlad

    Well, how is Singapore doing on the fertility side of affairs?

    Especially among the Chinese elite?

    Spandrell of the Bloody Shovel blog, the guy who came up with the Bioleninism concept, says Singapore is an “IQ shredder,” attracts smart people who don’t end up breeding. Here’s his 2013 post on that thesis.

  227. @Bashibuzuk
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Well, as of late you are in general dismissive of everything far right, not only Neonazi. You are more than often deriding populists, "rightoids", "obscurantists", stupid "anti-vaxxers", MAGA people etc.

    OTOH you seem to get along fine with Klaus Shwab's perspective about the way things need be moving forward. This is of course completely understandable from a transhumanist point of view. Transhumanism being a technicist philosophy taken to its extreme limits, while technicism being a subtype of progressism incompatible with any form of Traditionalism.

    Transhumanists should walk in the first lines of BLM and LGBTQ marches and they actually often do. Theirs is not a "blood and soil" conception of a people as an organic, natural development of an ethnic type from past immemorial and towards the stars. They see people as basically a bunch of biological machines.

    You are more and more in line with this way of looking at things, while I have been Traditionalist for many years already and I am becoming even more grounded in this philosophy/ideology as years pass by. That is why I wrote that I accept and assume myself, while you don't.

    But it's okay. Different people have different needs. And I don't mind you getting angry against me when I write things that make you feel uncomfortable.

    (BTW, I notice that you steer this exchange of comments away from your support of all things Putin.)

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin, @Anatoly Karlin, @Dmitry

    OTOH you seem to get along fine with Klaus Shwab’s perspective about the way things need be moving forward. This is of course completely understandable from a transhumanist point of view. Transhumanism being a technicist philosophy taken to its extreme limits, while technicism being a subtype of progressism incompatible with any form of Traditionalism.

    I would have been vastly richer today had I read Klaus Schwab as opposed to entertaining rightoids.

    He identified Chainlink 5 years ago.

    Next best time to disassociate from “populists, “rightoids”, “obscurantists”, stupid “anti-vaxxers”, MAGA people” is now. Unlike /pol/, who at least don’t take themselves too seriously, these people aren’t even any fun to be around with.

    And I don’t mind you getting angry against me when I write things that make you feel uncomfortable.

    You flatter yourself. Your purposeless lies and innuendos do get tiring (that I’m not a Slav being but the latest bizarre assertion), but then again, it’s a few out of thousands of comments. 🤷

    • Agree: TheTotallyAnonymous
    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Being rich is cool, but being truly human is better.

    About you not being a Slav, are you sure you want to go into that rabbit hole?

    😉

    , @TheTotallyAnonymous
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Although I mostly agree with the spirit of your comment and nearly all its contents, I don't understand your animus towards anti-vaxxers, and non-acknowledgment that there is situationally a degree of merit in it.

    A big consideration though regarding pro or anti-vaxxers seems to be that international travel in the future will pretty much require vaccination.

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin

  228. @songbird
    Recently read The Future in America by HG Wells. (1906). Mostly word salad - do not recommend, but what really fascinated me was the chapter on immigration. Wells comes across as fairly based on immigration.

    He laughs at the idea of some fool thinking that Sicilians come from the same peninsula as Florentines (and therefore would be the same people). He notes that Jews are unassimilable and tells of seeing some special school of Jewish kids being taught to offer lip-service loyalty to the flag.

    He envisions a ruling caste of blue-eyed, light haired Western Europeans, who will lord over the darker eyed and darker haired Southern and Eastern Europeans, and the Jews, then coming in. (not sure whether to read this in a racial context or not - but that is actually what he said. Could be explained economically, maybe?)

    He worries about America being swamped. Encounters unconcerned citizens on the streets. Says that there is still a chance that they could pause immigration.

    Pretty surprising, given his natural communist bent and desire for world government. In the same book, he has a really pozzed chapter on blacks, in which he says something like American blacks are closer in blood to Englishmen than Russians (I forget the exact construction), but he invokes the fact that they probably have blood from the Norman Conquest. Though elsewhere in the book, he amusingly laments some labor leader being thrown in a jail full of negroes and half-bloods.

    He notes that the federal income tax had been rejected by the Supreme Court, and says that Constitutional processes make it impossible to pass it short of revolution. Actually, it passed just three years later.

    States' rights really rub him the wrong way. In particular, he says something about education, which reminded me of the horrible documentary which is loved by progressives Waiting for Superman (2010) which showed the same instinct of hating local education systems.

    Despite being a communist, it is evident that he had a sort of crush on the US (not unalloyed or rose-tinted). But he notes the planning around major cities like NYC and Boston, the building of a system of parks, and great constructions like the Brooklyn Bridge and calls it a form of socialism. I think that before the global Left hated America, it loved it, somewhat reluctantly, because of the scale. Very much an analogy to their recent (and already in the past) crush on China.

    Replies: @Svevlad

    American culture revolves around… Well you already probably know how it goes.

    It’s this weird artefact of their western autism. Blacks are begrudgingly accepted, but god forbid slavs and italians exist.

    The most ridiculous yet realistic work portraying this is the alternate-history story “What Madness is This” where the US is slowly transformed into what is basically a weird christian wahhabi ultranationalist regime with a gargantuan fetish for jews and blacks, and genocidal hatred against any “papists” and “slavs” (which is basically all eastern europeans)

    I like it because I find that it really showcases what the average ameriroach/angloid really thinks of us. They might be like that in real life, but mentally and spiritually that’s exactly what they are

  229. Bashibuzuk says:
    @Anatoly Karlin
    @Bashibuzuk

    I asked you a concrete question. Which "muh evil Nazis"?

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    https://www.ebay.ca/itm/184798725964

    https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4694712

    Well you sure didn’t support these.

    I put the links instead of pictures so you don’t end up accused of “promoting Fascism ” and “supporting terrorist organizations forbidden on the territory of the RusFed” by some over zealous comrade major from the FSB who is (only) hunting dissidents online to boost his/her career prospects.

    BTW, I hope that 88 in your Twitter nickname is your year of birth and not a thinly veiled reference to Uncle Adi’s initials. Perhaps it’s better to change it to 69 instead, just to make sure it’s more acceptable by the non-rightoid masses.

    🙂

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
    @Bashibuzuk


    Well you sure didn’t support these.
     
    No, I indeed do not support pro-Ukrainian Neo-Nazi terrorists in Russia.

    Do you imply you do?

    If so, how does this tally with your crocodile tears over Donbass?

    I put the links instead of pictures so you don’t end up accused of “promoting Fascism ”...
     
    No, this is your usual larp. You know as well as I do that Article 282 enforcement doesn't extent to English language resources. And that was before it was decriminalized, nowadays you can post your swastikas to your heart's content.

    BTW, I hope that 88 in your Twitter nickname is your year of birth and not a thinly veiled reference to Uncle Adi’s initials.
     
    It's the latter - I opened my Twitter account more than a decade ago, when 88 was esoteric knowledge (in the West). But good of you to parrot RationalWiki innuendo, always appreciated.

    Being rich is cool, but being truly human is better.
     
    Implying that rightoids are "truly human." In reality, they are some of the most pitiful excuses for humanity on the planet.

    They might have pegged the SJWs right. Unfortunately, SJWs are just as correct on rightoids as the converse.

    About you not being a Slav, are you sure you want to go into that rabbit hole?
     
    Ah, I forget, "noviops" as the latter-day equivalent of "bourgeoisie"/"enemies of the people" to conspiracy-oriented Russian nationalists.
  230. @Anatoly Karlin
    @Bashibuzuk


    OTOH you seem to get along fine with Klaus Shwab’s perspective about the way things need be moving forward. This is of course completely understandable from a transhumanist point of view. Transhumanism being a technicist philosophy taken to its extreme limits, while technicism being a subtype of progressism incompatible with any form of Traditionalism.
     
    I would have been vastly richer today had I read Klaus Schwab as opposed to entertaining rightoids.

    He identified Chainlink 5 years ago.

    https://twitter.com/akarlin88/status/1375953228614008837

    Next best time to disassociate from "populists, “rightoids”, “obscurantists”, stupid “anti-vaxxers”, MAGA people" is now. Unlike /pol/, who at least don't take themselves too seriously, these people aren't even any fun to be around with.

    And I don’t mind you getting angry against me when I write things that make you feel uncomfortable.
     
    You flatter yourself. Your purposeless lies and innuendos do get tiring (that I'm not a Slav being but the latest bizarre assertion), but then again, it's a few out of thousands of comments. 🤷

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @TheTotallyAnonymous

    Being rich is cool, but being truly human is better.

    About you not being a Slav, are you sure you want to go into that rabbit hole?

    😉

  231. @Bashibuzuk
    @Lokke

    I actually agree with a lot of what you wrote. RusFed (as distinguished from the Holy Russia that exited before the Time of Troubles) is a toxic byproduct of Westernization. Despite whatever RusFed elites claim, whatever propaganda they throw at the gullible, despite whatever their mouthpieces blather, they are neither nationalist nor conservative. They aren't even patriotic, their posturing is bogus and empty.

    They are fully integrated into the globalized economy, enjoying its riches to the fullest. The only thing they argue about with their "Western Partners " is the piece of the pie they would get from the extractive economy they have imposed upon the Russian people and other ethnic groups native to the Russian territory.

    This globalized economic model is inevitably leading to the demise of the Slavs. The way it goes, the Slav population will probably be half of what it is today in a hundred years. But the majority of Slavs do not care about their own culture and people survival anymore. They have no roots and see no future. This is sad, but quite convenient for the globalized predatory elites.

    All these thousand years of living, dying, fighting in the immense territory between the Altai and the Elbe just to disappear like a shadow lost in the twilight of history. This is tragic, but do not hope for someone like Karlin to fully appreciate the tragedy unfolding before our very eyes. He is not Slav and as a transhumanist he is more preoccupied with an illusive future than with a fading past.

    Past has no value for rootless people...

    Replies: @silviosilver, @Anatoly Karlin, @Svevlad

    Extreme problems require extreme solutions.

    Such as total and utter enslavement. If they are willing to go extinct over westoid virtue signal points, then they deserve 10 thousand years of absolute and utter unspeakable hell on Earth.

    And I’m not talking about pozzed mental slavery being imposed by the Great Satan and it’s mankurt enforcers. I’m talking about Combine-style Slavic hypernationalist by force tier stuff. Artificial wombs, mass cloning, genetic modification, hard eugenics.

    Or in short, what the people don’t want to do, will be done regardless.

    But it’s not the time to take such extreme measures. Subversion of the eternal westoid by taking the lowest IQ trash from around the world, putting them on container ships and shipping them to Atlantoid ports by the millions until they simply disappear in an eternal civil war is far easier, and in my opinion, more entertaining.

    Sadly, modern diplomacy is extremely cucked. It’s all slow, fragile, halfway there schemes.

    But hey, nature always takes out the trash in the end!

  232. @Dmitry
    @Passer by

    Low fertility and ageing population, is not completely negative, especially from the point of view of rulers, but also to some extent for national interests and ordinary people.

    After war, the second worst problem for Russia in the 20th century was political instability. Low fertility and ageing population are factors which contribute to increasing political stability in Russia.

    In addition, a stable or falling population, add upward pressure to GDP per capita, and downward pressure on youth unemployment and crime rate.

    In an economy based on extraction of natural resources, which are fixed, then reducing the denominator of the income earned via a falling population might make it more possible to progress through the middle income trap.


    Putin is fully aware of those realities, recently naming the demographic situation in Russia “extraordinary”

     

    Of many things he might have nightmares about, I doubt he is having nightmares about the fertility rate. Top officials have a priority to maintain appearances of success or effective management, if not an underlying reality, as the appearance by itself might be sufficient to keep them in their very profitable positions.

    Putin needs to seem like he is concerned about weak demographics and is responding adequately. However, if the demographics are adding downward pressure on youth unemployment and crime rate, and could create upward pressure on GDP per capita, then - it's possible that this situation will be a boost for him.

    -


    Median age is likely to contribute to political stability. In Belarus, last summer, there was a sense that even if the majority of energetic young people opposed Lukashenko, then only 11,5% of the population of Belarus are in the age category of 20-29.

    So the demonstrations of young people in Minsk, was a sign that Lukashenko had plenty of unpopularity - among a demographic that could not be more than 11,5% of his country. Anti-Lukashenko opinions of youth in Belarus, were less important than they would be in a country where the youth was a more significant share of the population. (E.g. in countries like Egypt, Syria or Libya in the "Arab Spring").
    https://i.imgur.com/QNPBkhM.jpg

    In 2011 Egypt, there were 19% of the population in the age category of 20-29. Compared to Lukashenko, Mubarak was playing with a higher difficulty level setting for demographics, other things equal

    https://i.imgur.com/R9qkUBf.jpg

    Replies: @Passer by

    In addition, a stable or falling population, add upward pressure to GDP per capita

    On the contrary, falling population, which also means accelerated ageing of the population, puts downward pressure on GDP per capita too, in addition to total GDP.

    You see the russian population pyramid? It is inverting. There will be fewer younger people and more older people. Judging by the pyramid, soon there will be 30 % less people in their prime age – 30 – 50 year old, while the number of older people will increase significantly.

    Do you know what this means? That you get less smart, creative and productive people per capita. The peak of human productivity and creativity is between 30 and 50 years old. Intelligence also starts to drop later in life. Consumption too. (Negative for russian market size).

    The share of the population of highly productive and creative people drops, the share of unproductive people increases, which puts downward pressure on per capita GDP.

    So, what you are getting is fewer smart, productive and creative people, fewer inventions, fewer businesses start ups, less creative or productive work, and more unproductive old people, both in total and in per capita, which puts downward pressure on per capita GDP.

    Putin needs to seem like he is concerned about weak demographics

    No, i don’t think this is simply about appearances, it has been directly and explicitly added to the Russian Constitution – “Children are the most important state policy priority for the Russian Federation”, as well as in several other articles of it. Including in the National Security Strategy of the country.

    Median age is likely to contribute to political stability.

    Look. Everybody knows about the issue of ageing population possibly bringing political stability. But here, there is another issue – the weakening of the country due to demographic problems and low economic growth, which increases external pressure on the country. Simply put, a stronger country handles external pressures better than a weaker country. And Russia is not old Japan, rather it is in Cold War conditions, facing the hostility of the combined West, and faces a world with increasing inter-country competition.

    This is why the relative weakening of the country due to demographic or economic factors is not a good thing. And this has been recognized by the russian authorities.

    Not to mention the issue of weak GDP growth, including weak per capita gdp growth that ageing will bring soon, and this will be bad for politics. And i doubt that Putin wants total GDP growth, or per capita growth to weaken. He himself said that GDP growth needs to be at least 3 % per anum.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @Passer by

    Fertility rate is not an area that governments can influence easily (what we see in response to government policies like maternal capital, seems to be changes of timing of births, not changes in completed fertility rates).

    My point is just that: 1. the result of current fertility trends is not completely negative - rather it is usual mix of good and bad news, as expected in complex systems; 2. it will not necessarily all bad news for self-interested authorities, who are thinking how to manage the country's political stability.


    fewer inventions, fewer businesses start ups, less creative
     
    I think you are writing a good point here, which I didn't think about before.

    But I don't imagine this effects the main sources of economic growth in Russia, as the country is currently configured.

    If you want a sense of the economy's most economically profitable industries and wealth creation, then it will be useful to write what is the "mode", for the industries which are of the source of the top 100 richest peoples' fortunes. Pavel Durov is not the typical billionaire, and his own wealth since 2014 was not from Russia.

    Most of the extractive industries are not going to be responding negatively to a moderation of Russia's population size, and relative to these industries it is possible that weak demographics could add upward pressure on GDP per capita other things equal.


    don’t think this is simply about appearances, it has been directly and explicitly added to the Russian Constitution
     
    Constitutions often write this kind of thing. "Revealed preferences " shown by government, is not necessarily matching exactly what was written the constitution.

    Politicians respond to incentives of their self-interest, and a lot of what rewards and punishes them, seem to be the appearances and narratives they can provide to the people, rather than the objective indicators.

    We saw this in the coronavirus pandemic, where the government behaved semi-responsibly to lockdown in April 2020, and were punished for it by public opinion. Few things have they tried, has been so unpopular, as the quarantine last year.

    By comparison, there was subsequently very irresponsible laissez faire behavior of the authorities in relation to the second wave of pandemic across September 2020- June 2021. In this time, excess mortality seems to indicate that coronavirus has killed more than half million Russian citizens, and yet nobody is protesting in streets about this, and public opinion seems support the government's decisions.

    So incentives for the government in relation to pandemics in Russia, seem to have been contradicting what would have been responsible policy, that would prioritize objective indicators of public health, rather than peoples' convenience to enjoy low levels of lockdown. But you wouldn't have read that prioritization, on the constitution which said that epidemiological status of the population is a priority.

  233. Znzn says:
    @AP
    @Znzn

    Of course. That preceded Putin and will outlive him. Russians are more like Italians than like Chinese or Japanese.

    Replies: @Znzn, @mal

    Well about global warming benefiting Russia supposedly, if the way for your country to get ahead is to trash the environment of other countries who are not as fortunate……. BTW the last time earth was warmer by 3 degrees, the entire area between the Appalachians and the Rockies had the same climate as the Australian outback. And about drugs, no Western country historically has even gone as hard on drugs as Singapore or China has. I mean what happens to drug dealers in Singapore, China, or even Indonesia or Malaysia compared to the US? I mean Singapore’s location as a center of various trading routes actually makes it the ideal location to be a drug hub like Colombia or Mexico.

  234. @Bashibuzuk
    @Blinky Bill

    Easier said than done. Humans cannot be ordered to breed, but they can be prevented from doing so. Suppressing is easy, stimulating not so much.

    Replies: @DNS, @Svevlad

    If the cattle don’t want to play ball, then a ball shall be made anyway.

    Instead of trying to make a bunch of idiotic mankurts breed, I would just invest in artificial wombs and cloning. The populace would then be harvested to make a new one, that isn’t vulnerable to mental pollution of idiotic ideas, or dumb feelings, and all other things that caused this in the first place.

    It’s the only way to save humanity from guaranteed extinction. We’ll finally stop Cthulu from swimming to the left constantly – by getting rid of him entirely.

  235. @silviosilver
    @Svevlad

    I dare not. I have no stomach for those scenes.

    Going back to the toilet thing, if the EU made the state of public restrooms a criterion for accession, they wouldn't touch the Balkans with a barge pole. The stench and the filth I've witnessed there, how is that even possible?

    Replies: @TheTotallyAnonymous, @Matra

    Going back to the toilet thing, if the EU made the state of public restrooms a criterion for accession, they wouldn’t touch the Balkans with a barge pole.

    Are you delusional or retarded?

    The “Western Balkans” states won’t join the EU as it is anyway, and anyone who believes they seriously will has low IQ issues.

    Btw, public toilets in many EU member states really aren’t in great condition either …

    • Replies: @silviosilver
    @TheTotallyAnonymous


    Are you delusional or retarded?
     
    Dude, anyone who thinks posting horse grooming pics is some mortal insult has no business calling anyone else delusional or retarded.

    I kinda feel sorry for you though. I can only imagine how much impotent rage you must be seething with to angrily lash out in every direction the way you do.
  236. I mean Western governments hands are a lot more tied in dealing with social dysfunction, compared to places like China or Singapore, or even Russia.

  237. @Anatoly Karlin
    @Bashibuzuk

    You are a pagan larper whom ~95% of Russians would regard as a freak. But you do you.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @AP, @TheTotallyAnonymous

    Wasn’t Bashibuzuk going on a few open threads ago about how he was a “devout Russian Orthodox Christian nationalist” who personally witnessed the 1993 turmoil when Yeltsin sent tanks on the Russian Duma?

    Considering how radically his perspectives are changing, he’s either completely unprincipled, some sort of deliberate troll/agent, or just completely retarded (or perhaps some combination).

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
    @TheTotallyAnonymous


    ... who personally witnessed the 1993 turmoil when Yeltsin sent tanks on the Russian Duma?
     
    Yes. His solution to that was to leave Russia (which is fine) - and then go on a jihad against "ResFed" from his couch. Probably when you end up in alliance with Ukrainian Neo-Nazis it's time to stop and reconsider a bit, but I guess not.

    But who cares, it's all cosplay at the end of the day. 🤷

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

  238. @Bashibuzuk
    @Anatoly Karlin

    https://www.ebay.ca/itm/184798725964

    https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4694712

    Well you sure didn't support these.

    I put the links instead of pictures so you don't end up accused of "promoting Fascism " and "supporting terrorist organizations forbidden on the territory of the RusFed" by some over zealous comrade major from the FSB who is (only) hunting dissidents online to boost his/her career prospects.

    BTW, I hope that 88 in your Twitter nickname is your year of birth and not a thinly veiled reference to Uncle Adi's initials. Perhaps it's better to change it to 69 instead, just to make sure it's more acceptable by the non-rightoid masses.

    🙂

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin

    Well you sure didn’t support these.

    No, I indeed do not support pro-Ukrainian Neo-Nazi terrorists in Russia.

    Do you imply you do?

    If so, how does this tally with your crocodile tears over Donbass?

    I put the links instead of pictures so you don’t end up accused of “promoting Fascism ”…

    No, this is your usual larp. You know as well as I do that Article 282 enforcement doesn’t extent to English language resources. And that was before it was decriminalized, nowadays you can post your swastikas to your heart’s content.

    BTW, I hope that 88 in your Twitter nickname is your year of birth and not a thinly veiled reference to Uncle Adi’s initials.

    It’s the latter – I opened my Twitter account more than a decade ago, when 88 was esoteric knowledge (in the West). But good of you to parrot RationalWiki innuendo, always appreciated.

    Being rich is cool, but being truly human is better.

    Implying that rightoids are “truly human.” In reality, they are some of the most pitiful excuses for humanity on the planet.

    They might have pegged the SJWs right. Unfortunately, SJWs are just as correct on rightoids as the converse.

    About you not being a Slav, are you sure you want to go into that rabbit hole?

    Ah, I forget, “noviops” as the latter-day equivalent of “bourgeoisie”/”enemies of the people” to conspiracy-oriented Russian nationalists.

  239. @Anatoly Karlin
    @Bashibuzuk


    OTOH you seem to get along fine with Klaus Shwab’s perspective about the way things need be moving forward. This is of course completely understandable from a transhumanist point of view. Transhumanism being a technicist philosophy taken to its extreme limits, while technicism being a subtype of progressism incompatible with any form of Traditionalism.
     
    I would have been vastly richer today had I read Klaus Schwab as opposed to entertaining rightoids.

    He identified Chainlink 5 years ago.

    https://twitter.com/akarlin88/status/1375953228614008837

    Next best time to disassociate from "populists, “rightoids”, “obscurantists”, stupid “anti-vaxxers”, MAGA people" is now. Unlike /pol/, who at least don't take themselves too seriously, these people aren't even any fun to be around with.

    And I don’t mind you getting angry against me when I write things that make you feel uncomfortable.
     
    You flatter yourself. Your purposeless lies and innuendos do get tiring (that I'm not a Slav being but the latest bizarre assertion), but then again, it's a few out of thousands of comments. 🤷

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @TheTotallyAnonymous

    Although I mostly agree with the spirit of your comment and nearly all its contents, I don’t understand your animus towards anti-vaxxers, and non-acknowledgment that there is situationally a degree of merit in it.

    A big consideration though regarding pro or anti-vaxxers seems to be that international travel in the future will pretty much require vaccination.

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
    @TheTotallyAnonymous

    I don't particularly mind anti-vaxxers as such. I do mind the people who spam threads with conspiracy videos, proclaim that it's a hoax, rants about Bill Gates, 5G, Schwab, and the "NWO", etc. The latter seem to constitute the majority of anti-vaxxer commenters online, so my inclination is to assign "anti-vaxx" to the "highly unlikely to be true or useful" bin.

    Replies: @TheTotallyAnonymous

  240. mal says:
    @AP
    @Znzn

    Of course. That preceded Putin and will outlive him. Russians are more like Italians than like Chinese or Japanese.

    Replies: @Znzn, @mal

    Nah, i see corruption being eliminated in Russia relatively soon.

    You can steal vastly more money with ‘public private partnerships’, ‘lobbying’, ‘campaign contributions’, ‘charitable donations to foundations’ and ‘stock options’ like they do in the West.

    Sovok elite is too dumb to understand this and still prefers cash in briefcase under the table. So they are corrupt. But they will die soon. New elite understands this well i think.

    Once the amount of money you are stealing physically can’t fit under the table, you stop being corrupt and become a visionary politician. That’s how its done in the West. As Russia gains strength, same process will occur there as well.

  241. @Znzn
    @AP

    Western economies are not doing that bad, and in fact, has been showing better growth than Russia when you look at GDP figures. I can also show a bunch of figures showing that the port of Rotterdam or Long Beach/Seattle has not been doing that badly all these years.

    Replies: @mal

    Russian nominal GDP went from $196 billion in 1999 to $1.7 trillion in 2019.

    https://tradingeconomics.com/russia/GDP

    I don’t think Western economies grew 8-9x in 20 years. Not even China, i think grew like that.

    • Replies: @Znzn
    @mal

    How has Russia's economic performance been since 2013? China's GDP went from 1 trillion in 1999 to more than 14 trillion in 2019, but then how much of that GDP are bridges and roads to nowhere and empty apartment blocks, malls, and cities? The US and even Germany has had faster GDP growth than Russia for the past 7 years or so, even adjusted for population.

    Replies: @mal

  242. @TheTotallyAnonymous
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Although I mostly agree with the spirit of your comment and nearly all its contents, I don't understand your animus towards anti-vaxxers, and non-acknowledgment that there is situationally a degree of merit in it.

    A big consideration though regarding pro or anti-vaxxers seems to be that international travel in the future will pretty much require vaccination.

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin

    I don’t particularly mind anti-vaxxers as such. I do mind the people who spam threads with conspiracy videos, proclaim that it’s a hoax, rants about Bill Gates, 5G, Schwab, and the “NWO”, etc. The latter seem to constitute the majority of anti-vaxxer commenters online, so my inclination is to assign “anti-vaxx” to the “highly unlikely to be true or useful” bin.

    • Replies: @TheTotallyAnonymous
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Yeah, the whole anti-5G thing is especially dumb.

    It's as if 3G or 4G are somehow completely different. Being in a radius of a few kilometers from these towers is known to be extremely unhealthy anyway.

    I think much of the anti-5G thing is about being anti-China though. Which is ironic, because many of the rightoid retards in Western countries are actually playing into the hands of their elite by being anti-5G - therefore anti-China.

  243. @TheTotallyAnonymous
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Wasn't Bashibuzuk going on a few open threads ago about how he was a "devout Russian Orthodox Christian nationalist" who personally witnessed the 1993 turmoil when Yeltsin sent tanks on the Russian Duma?

    Considering how radically his perspectives are changing, he's either completely unprincipled, some sort of deliberate troll/agent, or just completely retarded (or perhaps some combination).

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin

    … who personally witnessed the 1993 turmoil when Yeltsin sent tanks on the Russian Duma?

    Yes. His solution to that was to leave Russia (which is fine) – and then go on a jihad against “ResFed” from his couch. Probably when you end up in alliance with Ukrainian Neo-Nazis it’s time to stop and reconsider a bit, but I guess not.

    But who cares, it’s all cosplay at the end of the day. 🤷

    • Agree: TheTotallyAnonymous
    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Anatoly Karlin


    But who cares, it’s all cosplay at the end of the day.
     
    It depends. There are aspects of the whole thing that should not be seen through the optics of moral relativism. There should be something that one considers sacred. That is if one is human and not some biomechanoid machine.

    Replies: @silviosilver

  244. Dmitry says:
    @AP
    @Bashibuzuk


    Where did I defend anti-Russian scum?

    I am not the one defending Putin and his buddies here.
     
    How can Putin be “anti-Russian scum” when according to almost every measure Russia has improved significantly under his rule? Sure, he has stabilized the situation for the 90s oligarch-thieves, securing their role (or their children’s role) as Russia’s new elite, and this is distasteful and unfair. The nobility also often had rough and unsavory beginnings. For example - families descended from Rus druzhyna who were exploiting and selling East Slavic slaves to the Arabs, after all. But the direction of the Russian state and society has in general been positive. Much more so then in most of the rest of the world, at least.

    Yes, Putin has done things to splinter the Slavs, he is a champion of narrow Russian-Muscovite interests rather than some sort of true pan-Slavist. But that of course is not an anti-Russian.

    Replies: @Znzn, @Znzn, @Dmitry

    20th century Russian history looked like it was an attempt to model on the lifecycle of Indian Jumping Ants.

    I’ll add a quote from an article in “The Atlantic” about the lifecycle of this species of ants.

    For most ant species, nothing spells apocalypse quite like the death of a queen. A colony stripped of its monarch, the group’s only fertile female and the sole source of eggs, quickly unravels, then dies—an entire society snuffed out. The captain does not go down with her ship; the ship goes down with her captain.

    Indian jumping ants do not abide by such dictatorial dramatics. They’ve evolved a work-around to indefinitely forestall their colonies’ demise. Within hours of their queen’s death, female workers will begin to joust, fencing with their antennae, and nipping at each other’s heads. These dominance tournaments can last for more than a month, until, at long last, a dozen or so champions triumph. While the losers slink away to resume their workerly duties, the victors cast aside their former peasant status and become a new class of pseudo-royals called gamergates. The queen phase of the colony ends, and the gamergate phase begins: Monarchy transforms into oligarchy, and new gamergates step up as each generation dies. In this way, “colonies can be immortal, theoretically,” Clint Penick, an entomologist at Kennesaw State University in Georgia, told me. They have been, so far, in the labs where he’s studied them.

    The consequences of these tiny tussles range from the sociopolitical to the molecular. In earning the title of gamergate (pronounced gamm-ər-gayt), a female ant gains nearly exclusive rights to her colony’s reproductive responsibilities; she is among the very few of her sisters that can fertilize their eggs with the sperm of their brothers, the only available males. The transition rewires worker ants, altering their behavior and physiology until they become docile, nursery-bound “egg-laying machines,” Penick said. Gamergates stop leaving the nest. They lose their food-foraging chops and the will to hunt, relegating themselves instead to the darkness of their underground chambers, where they churn out eggs. They feast exclusively on the paralyzed prey served to them by workers…

    Given the triple threat of casual incest, sororal dueling, and what amounts to a self-inflicted prenatal lobotomy, the whole affair might sound a touch unpalatable to us humans. But in some ways, being a gamergate is downright cushy. These ants are the colony’s VIPs, and their social status is abundantly clear. When gamergates stroll among their subjects, they walk slowly and deliberately, standing high on their legs; workers scuttle out of their way to make room. “They have a royal attitude” about them, Jürgen Liebig, an animal behaviorist at Arizona State University and Penick’s former adviser, told me. “Once you know what to look for, it’s very conspicuous.”

    https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/04/ant-brain-reversible-shrinking/618578/

    Final paragraph quotes above, skips us into 21st century, but misses the raison d’être – to breakdown relations with the neighbouring anthill, and anonymously send your children to some of the more comfortable parts of it.

    Putin be “anti-Russian scum” when according to almost every measure Russia

    Ano4/Bashibuzuk says that he is a sympathizer to nationalism, although in reality he seems to be very cosmopolitan and friendly writer (whereas I assume that nationalists will be unfriendly and ant-social). Under Putin, the authorities have eliminated nationalist politics from Russia, and so for people with nationalist sympathies call Putin anti-Russian. ​

    Ruling ideology since Putin, is a multiculturalist, and this is the because it is the ideology that provides the higher level of political stability in the Russian Federation (that operates as a federative structure and relies partly on imported labour).

    Putin’s project has been one of stabilization, his government is adjusting all the time to find an “optimal” mix of ideology that would satisfy a largest section of Russian citizens.

    I’m not following this topic (or any politics in Russia), but it seems like there has recently been some ideological astroturfing to pretend that a nationalism “jar” is not missing from the cupboard of contemporary politics, and this has been by relabelling the imperialism jar as “nationalism” and pretending it has the same contents, and hoping that people won’t notice the difference of taste between nationalism (that has been suppressed) and imperialism (which in a soft form is being assimilated as part of official ideology).

    This carries us to a general point about Putin’s strengths and weakness – that he was born from the KGB. His profession is an officer of the KGB and he worked during difficult times of the Cold War. He is attuned to the ideological and popular information space, international contests, etc.

    But these professionals are not concerned about fundamentals, that you can become attuned to if your background is in professions that related to real world (e.g. engineering), or even from working in competitive conditions (such as in private sector) where your business can fail.

    People in Russia from a certain rapidly aging generation, can remember 10-15 years ago when they were promised all kinds of hype about careers in futures industries, and leadership in high-tech, etc.

    For the authorities, these promises are very ephemeral, disposable products, that are forgotten with a few years.

    On the other hand, if you looked in countries like the UK, you see the adequate confitions for investments in future industries, hi-tech, etc, that exceed the kind of promises that Medvedev had used to made.

    Denis Sverdlov seems quite a historically representative example (in Hegelian sense), as he was founder of Yota, and began the Yotafon project, that in 2013 saw Medvedev claim is going to be a rival of Apple. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0oR480DX8M.

    Kind muses of history gave him $10 billion, making him as wealthy as Steve Jobs, but contra Medvedev this wealth was not from Yotafon, but the kind of money that grows like mushrooms in a field outside Oxford (speculative crazy money based on electric vehicle hype ).

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Dmitry

    Another excellent comment Dmitry.

    And the whole "anthill antics" started in Russia (Muscovy) with the Romanov dynasty coming to power after the disastrous Time of Troubles.

    In a way, the Leningrad clan around Putin are the proud heirs of Peter the Great. But in another way, so were also the Bolshevik.

    Russian history is often more twisted and torn than the Games of Thrones lore.

    🙂

    Replies: @Blinky Bill

    , @Znzn
    @Dmitry

    Russia's fundamentals are not that dismal, problem is low growth due to overly restrictive fiscal and monetary policy for since 2015 or so. Russia should have gone QE and minor deficit spending from 2015 onwards to keep GDP growth above 3 percent. And the EU an Germany clearly does not think it is worth throwing hundreds of billions to create a consumer electronics industry that can compete with East Asia.

    Replies: @mal

    , @mal
    @Dmitry


    Kind muses of history gave him $10 billion, making him as wealthy as Steve Jobs, but contra Medvedev this wealth was not from Yotafon, but the kind of money that grows like mushrooms in a field outside Oxford (speculative crazy money based on electric vehicle hype ).
     
    When you print money, you get money.

    And Russia has no alternative but to start printing money. Russia has way too much money of the wrong kind, too many unspendable dollars and euros etc - forex reserves are above $600 billion. Russia needs rubles.
    https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/RUREFEG:IND

    Russian inflation is at 5.5%, US runs at 4.2%.

    https://tradingeconomics.com/russia/inflation-cpi
    https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/inflation-cpi

    Russian inflation profile has been more and more like developed economy, which means Russia has fiscal space and can afford budget deficits which automatically grows GDP (budget deficit is the only thing growing GDP in the US, and that's structural, was true even before pandemic).

    Sooo...

    Итого за апрель 2021 года:

    26 новых производств

    из них 4 производства с инвестициями более 1 млрд рублей (инвестиции 60,35 млрд рублей)

    общий объем объявленных инвестиций около 64,79 млрд рублей

    у 6 производств объем инвестиций не сообщается

    По отраслям:

    Машиностроение, металлообработка и металлургия — 6

    Стройматериалы и строительные изделия — 8

    Химическая промышленность и изделия — 3

    Электроника, приборы и электротехническое оборудование — 0

    Медицина и фармацевтика — 4

    Текстильная промышленность — 0

    Добывающая промышленность — 0

    Деревообрабатывающая промышленность — 1

    Другое — 4

    По источникам инвестиций:

    иностранный — 3

    российский или смешанный — 23
     
    https://zen.yandex.ru/sdelanounas.ru?country_code=ru&lang=en&clid=9247&from_page=other_page

    In April Russia had around $1 billion investment in industrial production, 26 factories, 23 Russian or mixed, 3 foreign. Mostly in machinery and construction.

    So all those bad toilets in schools Bashibuzuk is complaining about are going to be rebuilt. It takes time, but its moving in the right direction.

    Replies: @Znzn, @Svevlad, @Dmitry

  245. Bashibuzuk says:
    @Dmitry
    @AP

    20th century Russian history looked like it was an attempt to model on the lifecycle of Indian Jumping Ants.

    I'll add a quote from an article in "The Atlantic" about the lifecycle of this species of ants.


    For most ant species, nothing spells apocalypse quite like the death of a queen. A colony stripped of its monarch, the group’s only fertile female and the sole source of eggs, quickly unravels, then dies—an entire society snuffed out. The captain does not go down with her ship; the ship goes down with her captain.

    Indian jumping ants do not abide by such dictatorial dramatics. They’ve evolved a work-around to indefinitely forestall their colonies’ demise. Within hours of their queen’s death, female workers will begin to joust, fencing with their antennae, and nipping at each other’s heads. These dominance tournaments can last for more than a month, until, at long last, a dozen or so champions triumph. While the losers slink away to resume their workerly duties, the victors cast aside their former peasant status and become a new class of pseudo-royals called gamergates. The queen phase of the colony ends, and the gamergate phase begins: Monarchy transforms into oligarchy, and new gamergates step up as each generation dies. In this way, “colonies can be immortal, theoretically,” Clint Penick, an entomologist at Kennesaw State University in Georgia, told me. They have been, so far, in the labs where he’s studied them.

    The consequences of these tiny tussles range from the sociopolitical to the molecular. In earning the title of gamergate (pronounced gamm-ər-gayt), a female ant gains nearly exclusive rights to her colony’s reproductive responsibilities; she is among the very few of her sisters that can fertilize their eggs with the sperm of their brothers, the only available males. The transition rewires worker ants, altering their behavior and physiology until they become docile, nursery-bound “egg-laying machines,” Penick said. Gamergates stop leaving the nest. They lose their food-foraging chops and the will to hunt, relegating themselves instead to the darkness of their underground chambers, where they churn out eggs. They feast exclusively on the paralyzed prey served to them by workers...

    Given the triple threat of casual incest, sororal dueling, and what amounts to a self-inflicted prenatal lobotomy, the whole affair might sound a touch unpalatable to us humans. But in some ways, being a gamergate is downright cushy. These ants are the colony’s VIPs, and their social status is abundantly clear. When gamergates stroll among their subjects, they walk slowly and deliberately, standing high on their legs; workers scuttle out of their way to make room. “They have a royal attitude” about them, Jürgen Liebig, an animal behaviorist at Arizona State University and Penick’s former adviser, told me. “Once you know what to look for, it’s very conspicuous."


    https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/04/ant-brain-reversible-shrinking/618578/

     

    Final paragraph quotes above, skips us into 21st century, but misses the raison d'être - to breakdown relations with the neighbouring anthill, and anonymously send your children to some of the more comfortable parts of it.

    Putin be “anti-Russian scum” when according to almost every measure Russia

     

    Ano4/Bashibuzuk says that he is a sympathizer to nationalism, although in reality he seems to be very cosmopolitan and friendly writer (whereas I assume that nationalists will be unfriendly and ant-social). Under Putin, the authorities have eliminated nationalist politics from Russia, and so for people with nationalist sympathies call Putin anti-Russian. ​

    Ruling ideology since Putin, is a multiculturalist, and this is the because it is the ideology that provides the higher level of political stability in the Russian Federation (that operates as a federative structure and relies partly on imported labour).

    Putin's project has been one of stabilization, his government is adjusting all the time to find an "optimal" mix of ideology that would satisfy a largest section of Russian citizens.

    I'm not following this topic (or any politics in Russia), but it seems like there has recently been some ideological astroturfing to pretend that a nationalism “jar” is not missing from the cupboard of contemporary politics, and this has been by relabelling the imperialism jar as “nationalism” and pretending it has the same contents, and hoping that people won’t notice the difference of taste between nationalism (that has been suppressed) and imperialism (which in a soft form is being assimilated as part of official ideology).

    This carries us to a general point about Putin's strengths and weakness - that he was born from the KGB. His profession is an officer of the KGB and he worked during difficult times of the Cold War. He is attuned to the ideological and popular information space, international contests, etc.

    But these professionals are not concerned about fundamentals, that you can become attuned to if your background is in professions that related to real world (e.g. engineering), or even from working in competitive conditions (such as in private sector) where your business can fail.

    -


    People in Russia from a certain rapidly aging generation, can remember 10-15 years ago when they were promised all kinds of hype about careers in futures industries, and leadership in high-tech, etc.

    For the authorities, these promises are very ephemeral, disposable products, that are forgotten with a few years.

    On the other hand, if you looked in countries like the UK, you see the adequate confitions for investments in future industries, hi-tech, etc, that exceed the kind of promises that Medvedev had used to made.

    Denis Sverdlov seems quite a historically representative example (in Hegelian sense), as he was founder of Yota, and began the Yotafon project, that in 2013 saw Medvedev claim is going to be a rival of Apple. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0oR480DX8M.

    Kind muses of history gave him $10 billion, making him as wealthy as Steve Jobs, but contra Medvedev this wealth was not from Yotafon, but the kind of money that grows like mushrooms in a field outside Oxford (speculative crazy money based on electric vehicle hype ).

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @Znzn, @mal

    Another excellent comment Dmitry.

    And the whole “anthill antics” started in Russia (Muscovy) with the Romanov dynasty coming to power after the disastrous Time of Troubles.

    In a way, the Leningrad clan around Putin are the proud heirs of Peter the Great. But in another way, so were also the Bolshevik.

    Russian history is often more twisted and torn than the Games of Thrones lore.

    🙂

    • Replies: @Blinky Bill
    @Bashibuzuk

    Of Ants and Men.


    Deep in the forests of Germany, nestled neatly into the hollowed-out shells of acorns, live a smattering of ants who have stumbled upon a fountain of youth. They are born workers, but do not do much work. Their days are spent lollygagging about the nest, where their siblings shower them with gifts of food. They seem to elude the ravages of old age, retaining a durably adolescent physique, their outer shells soft and their hue distinctively tawny. Their scent, too, seems to shift, wafting out an alluring perfume that endears them to others. While their sisters, who have nearly identical genomes, perish within months of being born, these death-defying insects live on for years and years and years.

    They are Temnothorax ants, and their elixirs of life are the tapeworms that teem within their bellies—parasites that paradoxically prolong the life of their host at a strange and terrible cost.

    A few such life-lengthening partnerships have been documented between microbes and insects such as wasps, beetles, and mosquitoes. But what these ants experience is more extreme than anything that’s come before, says Susanne Foitzik, an entomologist at Johannes Gutenberg University Mainz, in Germany, who studies the ants and their tapeworms. Infected Temnothorax ants live at least three times longer than their siblings, and perhaps much more, she and her colleagues report in a study published today in Royal Society Open Science. No one is yet sure when the insects’ longevity tops out, but the answer is probably in excess of a decade, approaching or even matching that of ant queens, who can survive up to 20 years.

    “Some other parasites do extend life spans,” Shelley Adamo, a parasite expert at Dalhousie University, in Nova Scotia, who was not involved in the study, told me. “But not like this.”

    Under typical circumstances, Temnothorax ants live as most other ants do. They reside in communities ruled by a single fertile queen attended by a legion of workers whose professional lives take a predictable trajectory. They first tend the queen’s eggs as nurses, then graduate into foraging roles that take them outside the nest. Apart from the whole freaky parasite thing, “they are pretty boring,” Foitzik told me.

    Normalcy goes out the door, however, when Temnothorax larvae ingest tapeworm-egg-infested bird feces trucked in by foragers. The parasites hatch and set up permanent residence in the young ants’ abdomens, where they can access a steady stream of nutrients. In return, they offer their host an unconventional renter’s fee: an extra-long life span that Foitzik and her colleagues managed to record in real time.

    The researchers spent three years monitoring dozens of Temnothorax colonies in the lab, comparing the fates of workers who’d fallen prey to the parasites and those who remained infection-free. By the end of their experiment, almost every single one of the hundreds of worm-free workers had, unsurprisingly, died. But more than half the parasitized workers were still kicking—about the same proportion as the colonies’ ultra-long-lived queens. “That was amazing to see,” Biplabendu Das, an ant biologist and parasite expert at the University of Central Florida, who wasn’t involved in the study, told me. And despite their old age, the ants’ bodies still bore the hallmarks of youth. They were difficult to distinguish from uninfected nurses, who are usually the most juvenile members of the colony’s working class.

    The tapeworm-laden ants didn’t just outlive their siblings, the team found. They were coddled while they did it. They spent their days lounging in their nest, performing none of the tasks expected of workers. They were groomed, fed, and carried by their siblings, often receiving more attention than even the queen—unheard of in a typical ant society—and gave absolutely nothing in return.

    The deal the ants have cut with their parasites seems, at first pass, pretty cushy. Foitzik told me that her team couldn’t find any overt downsides to life as an infected ant, a finding that appears to shatter the standard paradigm of parasitism. Even the colonies as a whole remained largely intact. Workers continued to work; queens continued to lay eggs. The threads that held each Temnothorax society together seemed unmussed.

    Only when the researchers took a closer look did that tapestry begin to unravel. The uninfected workers in parasitized colonies, they realized, were laboring harder. Strained by the additional burden of their wormed-up nestmates, they seemed to be shunting care away from their queen. They were dying sooner than they might have if the colonies had remained parasite-free. At the community level, the ants were exhibiting signs of stress, and the parasite’s true tax was, at last, starting to show. “The cost is in the division of labor,” Das said. The worms were tapping into not just “individual [ant] physiology, but also social interactions,” Farrah Bashey-Visser, a parasitologist at Indiana University who wasn’t involved in the study, told me.

    Scientists think of social insects not as single bugs, but as interlaced parts of a giant “superorganism,” Manuela Ramalho, an ant biologist at Cornell University, who wasn’t involved in the study, told me. When one individual acts, others around it react; in a colony, no ant can truly act alone. Parasites of these communities automatically extend their reach to multiple animals at once, a rippling mind-control effect that spreads and amplifies the consequences of infection. Although the tapeworms had infected only a fraction of the Temnothorax workers, they were puppeteering the entire society.

    That altered existence might play directly into the parasite’s hands. Tapeworms of these species can’t mature into adults and produce eggs until their ant host is consumed by a bird—a fate that insects in full possession of their faculties try to avoid. But ants who spend all their time lazing around the house make for easy prey; hosts who are pampered and long-lived have a high chance of surviving until they’re eaten. The worm’s most ingenious move might play out in some ants’ final moments, as they trade their natural fear of intruders for a dollop of ennui. When Foitzik and her students crack open infected Temnothorax colonies, the parasitized workers do little more than stare expectantly skyward. “Everyone else is just taking the larvae and running,” Foitzik said. “The infected workers are just like, Oh, what’s going on?”

    Down to the molecular level, the parasite is pulling the strings. Sara Beros, Foitzik’s former doctoral student and the paper’s first author, told me she has split open Temnothorax abdomens and counted up to 70 tapeworms inside. From there, the worms can unleash a slurry of proteins and chemicals that futz with the ant’s core physiology, likely impacting their host’s hormones, immune system, and genes. What they achieve appears to be a rough pantomime of how ant queens attain their mind-boggling life span, a feat humans still don’t understand. (The tapeworms’ grasp of ant aging is far more advanced than ours.) The parasites are effectively flash-freezing their host into a preserved state—one that will up their own chances of survival, and help guarantee that their species lives on.

    The worms’ MO is subtle and ingenious. They are agents not of disaster, but of an insidious social sickness that sets reality only slightly, barely perceptibly, askew. Infected workers get a taste of invincibility and status, swaddling themselves in youth and the benefits it brings. They also form resource sinks that sap the energy of those around them. They become echoes of the microorganisms they harbor. They are, in the end, parasites themselves.

    Replies: @Svevlad, @Bashibuzuk

  246. @silviosilver
    @Bashibuzuk


    All these thousand years of living, dying, fighting in the immense territory between the Altai and the Elbe just to disappear like a shadow lost in the twilight of history. This is tragic, but do not hope for someone like Karlin to fully appreciate the tragedy unfolding before our very eyes.
     
    Coldly beautiful, and immeasurably sad. At least that's how it feels when I allow myself to dwell on the issue too long.

    Your words also remind me of the 'replicant' Batty's speech near the end of Blade Runner, moments before his predestined lifespan is about to expire:

    I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die.

    Perhaps it takes a special kind of person to be moved by such thoughts. Racial writer Richard McCulloch tried to introduce the term 'racial empath' to describe those with the keenest sensitivity to their racial-cultural group's interests and fortunes. It never caught on, but the concept makes sense.

    Of course, you are concerned specifically with Slavs and McCulloch was concerned with the salvation of his own group - Anglos/Scands/Germanics - so I won't claim to understand your worries and anxieties precisely, but I think I can relate to the general sense of impending loss.

    Other people seem to me to only simulate such understanding. You can explain your concern and their responses indicate they have correctly parsed your words, yet they never quite seem to get it, and their replies demonstrate their priorities flatly lie elsewhere - priorities to which your concerns only pose obstacles.

    Ah well, c'est la vie.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Dmitry

    replicant’ Batty’s speech near the end of Blade Runner,

    I think there are two beautiful moments (with the Vangelis playing on the keyboard) in “Bladerunner”, which raises it from being a mostly mediocre, trashy science-fiction, to become a work of art.

    This is the speech about “tears in rain” and also the moment when Harrison Ford tells the memory of the spider to Rachel.

    In both cases, it is something invasive, and there is sadness about the illusion of their identity.

    But the “tears in rain” speech is less interesting, than the moment when recites the memory of the spider to Rachel. It relies on a kind of “purple prose”, whereas the memory about the spider has the sadness built into the wrong structure of the speakers (the wrong person is telling the memory).

    . Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time,

    This purple writing style, sounds like it is trying to copy Ernst Jünger’s “In steel storms”. It was persuasive and beautiful enough make me a teenager safely in their bed, almost wish to be lying in a trench in the First World War.

    The fact it has such an effect on readers 90 years later, was an indication of Jünger’s talent, if not necessarily of his truthfulness.

    • Agree: AP, Bashibuzuk
    • Replies: @silviosilver
    @Dmitry

    I wouldn't call those lines purple prose. They were not exceedingly ornate, they were appropriate to the moment, and they were quite in character. And anyway, a man going to his grave is entitled to a flash of grandiloquence. "I, who have seen such marvels as can hardly be described, must now expire, taking those memories with me" - surely that can be forgiven.

    , @songbird
    @Dmitry


    The fact it has such an effect on readers 90 years later, was an indication of Jünger’s talent, if not necessarily of his truthfulness.
     
    Closest American equivalent might be Audie Murphy's To Hell and Back (WW2). But he didn't write it, and the dialogue feels quite cloying. I think it was the influence of movies and radio, compared to Storm of Steel first printed about 1920.

    Audie Murphy is still a famous name in the US, but I think his book was basically a fad compared to Jünger. Murphy's fame today probably has more to do with the old movie that was based on the book.
  247. @Bashibuzuk
    @DNS

    Well, how is Singapore doing on the fertility side of affairs?

    Especially among the Chinese elite?

    CCP sees itself as the measure of all things Han, but they will eventually realize that they cannot substitute themselves to the Mandate of Heaven.

    When Heaven is just atmosphere, there's no Mandate coming out of it. That is why materialistic ideologies always end up in a dead end.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling, @Svevlad

    When Heaven is just atmosphere, there’s no Mandate coming out of it. That is why materialistic ideologies always end up in a dead end.

    But what if we had a materialistic world-view, without the ideology? As a matter of fact, have no ideology at all.

    The Pashtun seem to be doing fine – their culture is just collective Machiavellianism. Very based. (see comment #2: https://www.gnxp.com/WordPress/2021/05/20/the-jewel-and-the-dragon-and-the-fight-against-the-coming-darkness/#comments )

  248. Bashibuzuk says:
    @Anatoly Karlin
    @TheTotallyAnonymous


    ... who personally witnessed the 1993 turmoil when Yeltsin sent tanks on the Russian Duma?
     
    Yes. His solution to that was to leave Russia (which is fine) - and then go on a jihad against "ResFed" from his couch. Probably when you end up in alliance with Ukrainian Neo-Nazis it's time to stop and reconsider a bit, but I guess not.

    But who cares, it's all cosplay at the end of the day. 🤷

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    But who cares, it’s all cosplay at the end of the day.

    It depends. There are aspects of the whole thing that should not be seen through the optics of moral relativism. There should be something that one considers sacred. That is if one is human and not some biomechanoid machine.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
    @Bashibuzuk

    What can anyone really do though? Say AK signed off on your lament, agreeing that, yes, it's every bit as bleak as you say it is. In consequence of that admission, he now does what exactly? The "rightoid" answer (I share those reservations) amounts to little beyond: poast! Even if that works, even if everyone you want informed gets informed, the end result would be you're "all dressed up and no place to go." In the meantime, livelihoods must still be secured, resources gathered, production continued... etc.


    There should be something that one considers sacred. That is if one is human and not some biomechanoid machine.
     
    There's a limit to how much the sacred can crowd out. But never fear, should you disregard these limits, a spell of appendicitis will quickly reacquaint you with biomechanical home truths.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

  249. I just heard a little of Biden. He has what I call a “scolding” tone. Even in a Memorial Day address. Hannity has the same scolding tone. It is the tone that a father would use after his teenage son has just wrecked the family car. So, it’s scolding-tone Biden, and goofy-tone Harris. What must foreign leaders think of these tones, so anomalous to hear in leaders of a major democracy?

  250. @Anatoly Karlin
    @Lokke

    Western rightoids lost their own countries, don't even understand what happened (hint: It's not nationalism, hollow or otherwise, that drives liberalism in Poland), but for some really weird reason feel qualified to lecture my own.

    They can to hell IMO.

    Replies: @Znzn, @Passer by

    It’s not nationalism, hollow or otherwise, that drives liberalism in Poland

    Can you elaborate more on that, if you have time? I’m interested in those issues, including in the factors causing liberalism growth. I have some knowledge on how those processes work, but i think that i will learn something useful from your different perspective.

    Thank you.

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
    @Passer by

    The primary problem with Poland is, in a word, rightoids.

    It is ruled by rightoids who think abortion, even including Down's, is something worth torpedoing their political capital amongst youth is. Young Poles, who are not religious like their boomer parents, couldn't care less for this culture war crap. They also do cringe things like declaring "LGBT free zones", which would at least be respectable on its own merits (if still politically questionable) if the rightoids doing them were not abject cowards who reverse course at the first signs of EU pressure: https://www.euronews.com/2021/04/30/polish-town-scraps-controversial-move-to-declare-itself-lgbt-free This invites them not just hatred, but contempt (on the principle that the weak must be punished).

    Polish Christianity is a problem. It focuses on these tired culture war tropes that have seen their day (and lost in both the US and Ireland) while blathering about "Refugees Welcome".

    The other core problem is Americanophilia. It exists for understandable historical reasons, and it's hard to see how it can be changed, but to the extent that you are integrated into the American world system, you need to adopt its religious values (or, more precisely, the elites will automatically adopt them to signal their superiority over the proles, like it or not). That is problematic, considering that Negro Worship is now the official religion of America.

    https://www.unz.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/warsaw-black-films-matter.jpg

    The nationalists who rule Hungary seem to be smarter than the Polish rightoids, who will lose their country within another decade and never even realize what happened.

    Replies: @Passer by

  251. @Bashibuzuk
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Well, as of late you are in general dismissive of everything far right, not only Neonazi. You are more than often deriding populists, "rightoids", "obscurantists", stupid "anti-vaxxers", MAGA people etc.

    OTOH you seem to get along fine with Klaus Shwab's perspective about the way things need be moving forward. This is of course completely understandable from a transhumanist point of view. Transhumanism being a technicist philosophy taken to its extreme limits, while technicism being a subtype of progressism incompatible with any form of Traditionalism.

    Transhumanists should walk in the first lines of BLM and LGBTQ marches and they actually often do. Theirs is not a "blood and soil" conception of a people as an organic, natural development of an ethnic type from past immemorial and towards the stars. They see people as basically a bunch of biological machines.

    You are more and more in line with this way of looking at things, while I have been Traditionalist for many years already and I am becoming even more grounded in this philosophy/ideology as years pass by. That is why I wrote that I accept and assume myself, while you don't.

    But it's okay. Different people have different needs. And I don't mind you getting angry against me when I write things that make you feel uncomfortable.

    (BTW, I notice that you steer this exchange of comments away from your support of all things Putin.)

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin, @Anatoly Karlin, @Dmitry

    Isn’t the concept of transhumanism, that we should be able to transform ourselves into robotic dragon or at least some kind of technological version of a demigod like Achilles – and that we should prioritize technological development that will enable this.

    A priori, it should be attractive and life improving (robotic dragons likely have better standards of living than humans) for the majority of people, unlike the unpromising transgenderism, which at best offers a not very desirable operation to cut off beloved bodyparts and inject the wrong hormones.

    But the problem with transhumanism for us, is that we are unluckily in the wrong century.

    Being transhumanist in the 21st century, is like being a video game fan in the 19th century, or an aviation enthusiast in the 17th century.

    While transhumanism is technologically possible and even likely in the future, there’s probably nothing interesting and lifeimproving that can accessible within the timespan of people of our generation, or even our children’s and grandchildren’s.

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Dmitry

    Transhumanists hope to become demigods, but they risk to become demirobots and 100% slaves instead.

    That's the problem with transhumanism...

  252. @mal
    @Znzn

    Russian nominal GDP went from $196 billion in 1999 to $1.7 trillion in 2019.

    https://tradingeconomics.com/russia/GDP

    I don't think Western economies grew 8-9x in 20 years. Not even China, i think grew like that.

    Replies: @Znzn

    How has Russia’s economic performance been since 2013? China’s GDP went from 1 trillion in 1999 to more than 14 trillion in 2019, but then how much of that GDP are bridges and roads to nowhere and empty apartment blocks, malls, and cities? The US and even Germany has had faster GDP growth than Russia for the past 7 years or so, even adjusted for population.

    • Replies: @mal
    @Znzn

    What's so special about 2013?

    Oil bubble burst that year, in 2019 oil prices were much more reasonable, and give much better picture of Russian nominal GDP.

    In 2013, Russian nominal GDP was like 11x in 14 years, Chinese never dreamed about such growth level lol.

    Russian oil bubble driven nominal growth was insane, and once you take bubble out, it drops to very respectable 8x.

    Replies: @Znzn

  253. @Dmitry
    @AP

    20th century Russian history looked like it was an attempt to model on the lifecycle of Indian Jumping Ants.

    I'll add a quote from an article in "The Atlantic" about the lifecycle of this species of ants.


    For most ant species, nothing spells apocalypse quite like the death of a queen. A colony stripped of its monarch, the group’s only fertile female and the sole source of eggs, quickly unravels, then dies—an entire society snuffed out. The captain does not go down with her ship; the ship goes down with her captain.

    Indian jumping ants do not abide by such dictatorial dramatics. They’ve evolved a work-around to indefinitely forestall their colonies’ demise. Within hours of their queen’s death, female workers will begin to joust, fencing with their antennae, and nipping at each other’s heads. These dominance tournaments can last for more than a month, until, at long last, a dozen or so champions triumph. While the losers slink away to resume their workerly duties, the victors cast aside their former peasant status and become a new class of pseudo-royals called gamergates. The queen phase of the colony ends, and the gamergate phase begins: Monarchy transforms into oligarchy, and new gamergates step up as each generation dies. In this way, “colonies can be immortal, theoretically,” Clint Penick, an entomologist at Kennesaw State University in Georgia, told me. They have been, so far, in the labs where he’s studied them.

    The consequences of these tiny tussles range from the sociopolitical to the molecular. In earning the title of gamergate (pronounced gamm-ər-gayt), a female ant gains nearly exclusive rights to her colony’s reproductive responsibilities; she is among the very few of her sisters that can fertilize their eggs with the sperm of their brothers, the only available males. The transition rewires worker ants, altering their behavior and physiology until they become docile, nursery-bound “egg-laying machines,” Penick said. Gamergates stop leaving the nest. They lose their food-foraging chops and the will to hunt, relegating themselves instead to the darkness of their underground chambers, where they churn out eggs. They feast exclusively on the paralyzed prey served to them by workers...

    Given the triple threat of casual incest, sororal dueling, and what amounts to a self-inflicted prenatal lobotomy, the whole affair might sound a touch unpalatable to us humans. But in some ways, being a gamergate is downright cushy. These ants are the colony’s VIPs, and their social status is abundantly clear. When gamergates stroll among their subjects, they walk slowly and deliberately, standing high on their legs; workers scuttle out of their way to make room. “They have a royal attitude” about them, Jürgen Liebig, an animal behaviorist at Arizona State University and Penick’s former adviser, told me. “Once you know what to look for, it’s very conspicuous."


    https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/04/ant-brain-reversible-shrinking/618578/

     

    Final paragraph quotes above, skips us into 21st century, but misses the raison d'être - to breakdown relations with the neighbouring anthill, and anonymously send your children to some of the more comfortable parts of it.

    Putin be “anti-Russian scum” when according to almost every measure Russia

     

    Ano4/Bashibuzuk says that he is a sympathizer to nationalism, although in reality he seems to be very cosmopolitan and friendly writer (whereas I assume that nationalists will be unfriendly and ant-social). Under Putin, the authorities have eliminated nationalist politics from Russia, and so for people with nationalist sympathies call Putin anti-Russian. ​

    Ruling ideology since Putin, is a multiculturalist, and this is the because it is the ideology that provides the higher level of political stability in the Russian Federation (that operates as a federative structure and relies partly on imported labour).

    Putin's project has been one of stabilization, his government is adjusting all the time to find an "optimal" mix of ideology that would satisfy a largest section of Russian citizens.

    I'm not following this topic (or any politics in Russia), but it seems like there has recently been some ideological astroturfing to pretend that a nationalism “jar” is not missing from the cupboard of contemporary politics, and this has been by relabelling the imperialism jar as “nationalism” and pretending it has the same contents, and hoping that people won’t notice the difference of taste between nationalism (that has been suppressed) and imperialism (which in a soft form is being assimilated as part of official ideology).

    This carries us to a general point about Putin's strengths and weakness - that he was born from the KGB. His profession is an officer of the KGB and he worked during difficult times of the Cold War. He is attuned to the ideological and popular information space, international contests, etc.

    But these professionals are not concerned about fundamentals, that you can become attuned to if your background is in professions that related to real world (e.g. engineering), or even from working in competitive conditions (such as in private sector) where your business can fail.

    -


    People in Russia from a certain rapidly aging generation, can remember 10-15 years ago when they were promised all kinds of hype about careers in futures industries, and leadership in high-tech, etc.

    For the authorities, these promises are very ephemeral, disposable products, that are forgotten with a few years.

    On the other hand, if you looked in countries like the UK, you see the adequate confitions for investments in future industries, hi-tech, etc, that exceed the kind of promises that Medvedev had used to made.

    Denis Sverdlov seems quite a historically representative example (in Hegelian sense), as he was founder of Yota, and began the Yotafon project, that in 2013 saw Medvedev claim is going to be a rival of Apple. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0oR480DX8M.

    Kind muses of history gave him $10 billion, making him as wealthy as Steve Jobs, but contra Medvedev this wealth was not from Yotafon, but the kind of money that grows like mushrooms in a field outside Oxford (speculative crazy money based on electric vehicle hype ).

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @Znzn, @mal

    Russia’s fundamentals are not that dismal, problem is low growth due to overly restrictive fiscal and monetary policy for since 2015 or so. Russia should have gone QE and minor deficit spending from 2015 onwards to keep GDP growth above 3 percent. And the EU an Germany clearly does not think it is worth throwing hundreds of billions to create a consumer electronics industry that can compete with East Asia.

    • Replies: @mal
    @Znzn

    Russia had 15% inflation in 2015, it was a developing economy economy back then. QE and budget deficits would have been a bad move, especially with the sanctions environment.

    You need to watch your inflation indicator, and in Russian case, dollar denominated debt and reserve ratios.

    Russia only became developed economy, more or less, in 2017 or so. What Russia can do today is not what Russia could do in 2015. Russian economy is much stronger now vs then.

    Replies: @Znzn

  254. @Passer by
    @Anatoly Karlin


    It’s not nationalism, hollow or otherwise, that drives liberalism in Poland
     
    Can you elaborate more on that, if you have time? I'm interested in those issues, including in the factors causing liberalism growth. I have some knowledge on how those processes work, but i think that i will learn something useful from your different perspective.

    Thank you.

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin

    The primary problem with Poland is, in a word, rightoids.

    It is ruled by rightoids who think abortion, even including Down’s, is something worth torpedoing their political capital amongst youth is. Young Poles, who are not religious like their boomer parents, couldn’t care less for this culture war crap. They also do cringe things like declaring “LGBT free zones”, which would at least be respectable on its own merits (if still politically questionable) if the rightoids doing them were not abject cowards who reverse course at the first signs of EU pressure: https://www.euronews.com/2021/04/30/polish-town-scraps-controversial-move-to-declare-itself-lgbt-free This invites them not just hatred, but contempt (on the principle that the weak must be punished).

    Polish Christianity is a problem. It focuses on these tired culture war tropes that have seen their day (and lost in both the US and Ireland) while blathering about “Refugees Welcome”.

    The other core problem is Americanophilia. It exists for understandable historical reasons, and it’s hard to see how it can be changed, but to the extent that you are integrated into the American world system, you need to adopt its religious values (or, more precisely, the elites will automatically adopt them to signal their superiority over the proles, like it or not). That is problematic, considering that Negro Worship is now the official religion of America.

    The nationalists who rule Hungary seem to be smarter than the Polish rightoids, who will lose their country within another decade and never even realize what happened.

    • Thanks: BlackFlag
    • Replies: @Passer by
    @Anatoly Karlin


    who think abortion, even including Down’s,
     
    Yes, that was stupid. When that happened, i could not believe they could be so stupid. For this issue, i'm aware of it.

    were not abject cowards
     

    Polish Christianity blathering about “Refugees Welcome”.
     
    For this, i wasn't aware of.

    but to the extent that you are integrated into the American world system, you need to adopt its religious values
     

    Obviously, that is very simple.

    The nationalists who rule Hungary seem to be smarter than the Polish rightoids
     
    They understood that Eurasia/Asia is not the problem, rather it is the conservative core of the world and potential ally. And few rightoids get that. Most are obsessed with China, not realising that if not for China (and Russia) US type social liberalism will take over the planet. But their internal policies are also positive, for example heavily supporting family formation, which makes society more conservative, and the people like, and the nationalism there seems to be pro-Hungary, rather than "anti-Russia". The anti-Russia road trapps rightoids together with the liberals, and then the liberals slowly eat them alive.
  255. mal says:
    @Dmitry
    @AP

    20th century Russian history looked like it was an attempt to model on the lifecycle of Indian Jumping Ants.

    I'll add a quote from an article in "The Atlantic" about the lifecycle of this species of ants.


    For most ant species, nothing spells apocalypse quite like the death of a queen. A colony stripped of its monarch, the group’s only fertile female and the sole source of eggs, quickly unravels, then dies—an entire society snuffed out. The captain does not go down with her ship; the ship goes down with her captain.

    Indian jumping ants do not abide by such dictatorial dramatics. They’ve evolved a work-around to indefinitely forestall their colonies’ demise. Within hours of their queen’s death, female workers will begin to joust, fencing with their antennae, and nipping at each other’s heads. These dominance tournaments can last for more than a month, until, at long last, a dozen or so champions triumph. While the losers slink away to resume their workerly duties, the victors cast aside their former peasant status and become a new class of pseudo-royals called gamergates. The queen phase of the colony ends, and the gamergate phase begins: Monarchy transforms into oligarchy, and new gamergates step up as each generation dies. In this way, “colonies can be immortal, theoretically,” Clint Penick, an entomologist at Kennesaw State University in Georgia, told me. They have been, so far, in the labs where he’s studied them.

    The consequences of these tiny tussles range from the sociopolitical to the molecular. In earning the title of gamergate (pronounced gamm-ər-gayt), a female ant gains nearly exclusive rights to her colony’s reproductive responsibilities; she is among the very few of her sisters that can fertilize their eggs with the sperm of their brothers, the only available males. The transition rewires worker ants, altering their behavior and physiology until they become docile, nursery-bound “egg-laying machines,” Penick said. Gamergates stop leaving the nest. They lose their food-foraging chops and the will to hunt, relegating themselves instead to the darkness of their underground chambers, where they churn out eggs. They feast exclusively on the paralyzed prey served to them by workers...

    Given the triple threat of casual incest, sororal dueling, and what amounts to a self-inflicted prenatal lobotomy, the whole affair might sound a touch unpalatable to us humans. But in some ways, being a gamergate is downright cushy. These ants are the colony’s VIPs, and their social status is abundantly clear. When gamergates stroll among their subjects, they walk slowly and deliberately, standing high on their legs; workers scuttle out of their way to make room. “They have a royal attitude” about them, Jürgen Liebig, an animal behaviorist at Arizona State University and Penick’s former adviser, told me. “Once you know what to look for, it’s very conspicuous."


    https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/04/ant-brain-reversible-shrinking/618578/

     

    Final paragraph quotes above, skips us into 21st century, but misses the raison d'être - to breakdown relations with the neighbouring anthill, and anonymously send your children to some of the more comfortable parts of it.

    Putin be “anti-Russian scum” when according to almost every measure Russia

     

    Ano4/Bashibuzuk says that he is a sympathizer to nationalism, although in reality he seems to be very cosmopolitan and friendly writer (whereas I assume that nationalists will be unfriendly and ant-social). Under Putin, the authorities have eliminated nationalist politics from Russia, and so for people with nationalist sympathies call Putin anti-Russian. ​

    Ruling ideology since Putin, is a multiculturalist, and this is the because it is the ideology that provides the higher level of political stability in the Russian Federation (that operates as a federative structure and relies partly on imported labour).

    Putin's project has been one of stabilization, his government is adjusting all the time to find an "optimal" mix of ideology that would satisfy a largest section of Russian citizens.

    I'm not following this topic (or any politics in Russia), but it seems like there has recently been some ideological astroturfing to pretend that a nationalism “jar” is not missing from the cupboard of contemporary politics, and this has been by relabelling the imperialism jar as “nationalism” and pretending it has the same contents, and hoping that people won’t notice the difference of taste between nationalism (that has been suppressed) and imperialism (which in a soft form is being assimilated as part of official ideology).

    This carries us to a general point about Putin's strengths and weakness - that he was born from the KGB. His profession is an officer of the KGB and he worked during difficult times of the Cold War. He is attuned to the ideological and popular information space, international contests, etc.

    But these professionals are not concerned about fundamentals, that you can become attuned to if your background is in professions that related to real world (e.g. engineering), or even from working in competitive conditions (such as in private sector) where your business can fail.

    -


    People in Russia from a certain rapidly aging generation, can remember 10-15 years ago when they were promised all kinds of hype about careers in futures industries, and leadership in high-tech, etc.

    For the authorities, these promises are very ephemeral, disposable products, that are forgotten with a few years.

    On the other hand, if you looked in countries like the UK, you see the adequate confitions for investments in future industries, hi-tech, etc, that exceed the kind of promises that Medvedev had used to made.

    Denis Sverdlov seems quite a historically representative example (in Hegelian sense), as he was founder of Yota, and began the Yotafon project, that in 2013 saw Medvedev claim is going to be a rival of Apple. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0oR480DX8M.

    Kind muses of history gave him $10 billion, making him as wealthy as Steve Jobs, but contra Medvedev this wealth was not from Yotafon, but the kind of money that grows like mushrooms in a field outside Oxford (speculative crazy money based on electric vehicle hype ).

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @Znzn, @mal

    Kind muses of history gave him $10 billion, making him as wealthy as Steve Jobs, but contra Medvedev this wealth was not from Yotafon, but the kind of money that grows like mushrooms in a field outside Oxford (speculative crazy money based on electric vehicle hype ).

    When you print money, you get money.

    And Russia has no alternative but to start printing money. Russia has way too much money of the wrong kind, too many unspendable dollars and euros etc – forex reserves are above $600 billion. Russia needs rubles.
    https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/RUREFEG:IND

    Russian inflation is at 5.5%, US runs at 4.2%.

    https://tradingeconomics.com/russia/inflation-cpi
    https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/inflation-cpi

    Russian inflation profile has been more and more like developed economy, which means Russia has fiscal space and can afford budget deficits which automatically grows GDP (budget deficit is the only thing growing GDP in the US, and that’s structural, was true even before pandemic).

    Sooo…

    Итого за апрель 2021 года:

    26 новых производств

    из них 4 производства с инвестициями более 1 млрд рублей (инвестиции 60,35 млрд рублей)

    общий объем объявленных инвестиций около 64,79 млрд рублей

    у 6 производств объем инвестиций не сообщается

    По отраслям:

    Машиностроение, металлообработка и металлургия — 6

    Стройматериалы и строительные изделия — 8

    Химическая промышленность и изделия — 3

    Электроника, приборы и электротехническое оборудование — 0

    Медицина и фармацевтика — 4

    Текстильная промышленность — 0

    Добывающая промышленность — 0

    Деревообрабатывающая промышленность — 1

    Другое — 4

    По источникам инвестиций:

    иностранный — 3

    российский или смешанный — 23

    https://zen.yandex.ru/sdelanounas.ru?country_code=ru&lang=en&clid=9247&from_page=other_page

    In April Russia had around $1 billion investment in industrial production, 26 factories, 23 Russian or mixed, 3 foreign. Mostly in machinery and construction.

    So all those bad toilets in schools Bashibuzuk is complaining about are going to be rebuilt. It takes time, but its moving in the right direction.

    • Thanks: Bashibuzuk
    • Replies: @Znzn
    @mal

    Portalets?

    , @Svevlad
    @mal

    If they decide to make printer go brrr they should at least take the Michael Hudson pill and give it to productive and infrastructure uses, not bankoids

    , @Dmitry
    @mal

    I don't think the crazy money invested speculatively in future industries in the West, is because of printing money. If that was the cause, then we would see a lot inflation (but currencies in the West seem very stable).

    On the other hand, it is some kind of crazy, speculative, money. This is a crazy situation, when a lot of unexperienced kids go out of university directing to receiving millions of dollars of venture capital, for half-thought ideas, that will often not progress anywhere, and which are just funded on the basis of a sales presentation.

    However, although it seems like crazy money, I wouldn't be confident to say that there will be some kind of future collapse of hi-tech industry.

    For example, I remember in 2012, I was still young then - and we were shocked about Facebook valuation, and all students were talking about what a joke it was to have a $100 billion valuation for such a stupid website. And that the collapse will be very soon, and that "what crazy idiots can buy Facebook stocks for $30!". And yet now it's 9 years later (our life is short and our youth is gone) and, while young people of my generation was waiting for a collapse, Facebook has $930 billion valuation.

    -

    It's possible that 21st Western society is orientated to throwing its money into rapid, not always useful change, that is allowed by minor technological shifts.

    One of the funny surreal blindness I noticed on this forum, is that few people seemed to observe that the cause of their mental alienation are these technological shifts, and that the vast billions of dollars which is funding them is boosting our epoch's alienation.

    I feel alienated already that, for example, what had seemed so modern in my childhood (CDs, DVDs, minidisc), was already considered old fashioned by young people today, and without any advance in their experiences (much of young peoples' internet experience is less information rich, than watching a DVD; but a smartphone industry wouldn't be progressing if didn't waste their time on some idiotic app instead).

    Replies: @mal

  256. @Dmitry
    @Bashibuzuk

    Isn't the concept of transhumanism, that we should be able to transform ourselves into robotic dragon or at least some kind of technological version of a demigod like Achilles - and that we should prioritize technological development that will enable this.

    A priori, it should be attractive and life improving (robotic dragons likely have better standards of living than humans) for the majority of people, unlike the unpromising transgenderism, which at best offers a not very desirable operation to cut off beloved bodyparts and inject the wrong hormones.

    But the problem with transhumanism for us, is that we are unluckily in the wrong century.

    Being transhumanist in the 21st century, is like being a video game fan in the 19th century, or an aviation enthusiast in the 17th century.

    While transhumanism is technologically possible and even likely in the future, there's probably nothing interesting and lifeimproving that can accessible within the timespan of people of our generation, or even our children's and grandchildren's.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    Transhumanists hope to become demigods, but they risk to become demirobots and 100% slaves instead.

    That’s the problem with transhumanism…

  257. @mal
    @Dmitry


    Kind muses of history gave him $10 billion, making him as wealthy as Steve Jobs, but contra Medvedev this wealth was not from Yotafon, but the kind of money that grows like mushrooms in a field outside Oxford (speculative crazy money based on electric vehicle hype ).
     
    When you print money, you get money.

    And Russia has no alternative but to start printing money. Russia has way too much money of the wrong kind, too many unspendable dollars and euros etc - forex reserves are above $600 billion. Russia needs rubles.
    https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/RUREFEG:IND

    Russian inflation is at 5.5%, US runs at 4.2%.

    https://tradingeconomics.com/russia/inflation-cpi
    https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/inflation-cpi

    Russian inflation profile has been more and more like developed economy, which means Russia has fiscal space and can afford budget deficits which automatically grows GDP (budget deficit is the only thing growing GDP in the US, and that's structural, was true even before pandemic).

    Sooo...

    Итого за апрель 2021 года:

    26 новых производств

    из них 4 производства с инвестициями более 1 млрд рублей (инвестиции 60,35 млрд рублей)

    общий объем объявленных инвестиций около 64,79 млрд рублей

    у 6 производств объем инвестиций не сообщается

    По отраслям:

    Машиностроение, металлообработка и металлургия — 6

    Стройматериалы и строительные изделия — 8

    Химическая промышленность и изделия — 3

    Электроника, приборы и электротехническое оборудование — 0

    Медицина и фармацевтика — 4

    Текстильная промышленность — 0

    Добывающая промышленность — 0

    Деревообрабатывающая промышленность — 1

    Другое — 4

    По источникам инвестиций:

    иностранный — 3

    российский или смешанный — 23
     
    https://zen.yandex.ru/sdelanounas.ru?country_code=ru&lang=en&clid=9247&from_page=other_page

    In April Russia had around $1 billion investment in industrial production, 26 factories, 23 Russian or mixed, 3 foreign. Mostly in machinery and construction.

    So all those bad toilets in schools Bashibuzuk is complaining about are going to be rebuilt. It takes time, but its moving in the right direction.

    Replies: @Znzn, @Svevlad, @Dmitry

    Portalets?

  258. @Bashibuzuk
    @Dmitry

    Another excellent comment Dmitry.

    And the whole "anthill antics" started in Russia (Muscovy) with the Romanov dynasty coming to power after the disastrous Time of Troubles.

    In a way, the Leningrad clan around Putin are the proud heirs of Peter the Great. But in another way, so were also the Bolshevik.

    Russian history is often more twisted and torn than the Games of Thrones lore.

    🙂

    Replies: @Blinky Bill

    Of Ants and Men.

    [MORE]

    Deep in the forests of Germany, nestled neatly into the hollowed-out shells of acorns, live a smattering of ants who have stumbled upon a fountain of youth. They are born workers, but do not do much work. Their days are spent lollygagging about the nest, where their siblings shower them with gifts of food. They seem to elude the ravages of old age, retaining a durably adolescent physique, their outer shells soft and their hue distinctively tawny. Their scent, too, seems to shift, wafting out an alluring perfume that endears them to others. While their sisters, who have nearly identical genomes, perish within months of being born, these death-defying insects live on for years and years and years.

    They are Temnothorax ants, and their elixirs of life are the tapeworms that teem within their bellies—parasites that paradoxically prolong the life of their host at a strange and terrible cost.

    A few such life-lengthening partnerships have been documented between microbes and insects such as wasps, beetles, and mosquitoes. But what these ants experience is more extreme than anything that’s come before, says Susanne Foitzik, an entomologist at Johannes Gutenberg University Mainz, in Germany, who studies the ants and their tapeworms. Infected Temnothorax ants live at least three times longer than their siblings, and perhaps much more, she and her colleagues report in a study published today in Royal Society Open Science. No one is yet sure when the insects’ longevity tops out, but the answer is probably in excess of a decade, approaching or even matching that of ant queens, who can survive up to 20 years.

    “Some other parasites do extend life spans,” Shelley Adamo, a parasite expert at Dalhousie University, in Nova Scotia, who was not involved in the study, told me. “But not like this.”

    Under typical circumstances, Temnothorax ants live as most other ants do. They reside in communities ruled by a single fertile queen attended by a legion of workers whose professional lives take a predictable trajectory. They first tend the queen’s eggs as nurses, then graduate into foraging roles that take them outside the nest. Apart from the whole freaky parasite thing, “they are pretty boring,” Foitzik told me.

    Normalcy goes out the door, however, when Temnothorax larvae ingest tapeworm-egg-infested bird feces trucked in by foragers. The parasites hatch and set up permanent residence in the young ants’ abdomens, where they can access a steady stream of nutrients. In return, they offer their host an unconventional renter’s fee: an extra-long life span that Foitzik and her colleagues managed to record in real time.

    The researchers spent three years monitoring dozens of Temnothorax colonies in the lab, comparing the fates of workers who’d fallen prey to the parasites and those who remained infection-free. By the end of their experiment, almost every single one of the hundreds of worm-free workers had, unsurprisingly, died. But more than half the parasitized workers were still kicking—about the same proportion as the colonies’ ultra-long-lived queens. “That was amazing to see,” Biplabendu Das, an ant biologist and parasite expert at the University of Central Florida, who wasn’t involved in the study, told me. And despite their old age, the ants’ bodies still bore the hallmarks of youth. They were difficult to distinguish from uninfected nurses, who are usually the most juvenile members of the colony’s working class.

    The tapeworm-laden ants didn’t just outlive their siblings, the team found. They were coddled while they did it. They spent their days lounging in their nest, performing none of the tasks expected of workers. They were groomed, fed, and carried by their siblings, often receiving more attention than even the queen—unheard of in a typical ant society—and gave absolutely nothing in return.

    The deal the ants have cut with their parasites seems, at first pass, pretty cushy. Foitzik told me that her team couldn’t find any overt downsides to life as an infected ant, a finding that appears to shatter the standard paradigm of parasitism. Even the colonies as a whole remained largely intact. Workers continued to work; queens continued to lay eggs. The threads that held each Temnothorax society together seemed unmussed.

    Only when the researchers took a closer look did that tapestry begin to unravel. The uninfected workers in parasitized colonies, they realized, were laboring harder. Strained by the additional burden of their wormed-up nestmates, they seemed to be shunting care away from their queen. They were dying sooner than they might have if the colonies had remained parasite-free. At the community level, the ants were exhibiting signs of stress, and the parasite’s true tax was, at last, starting to show. “The cost is in the division of labor,” Das said. The worms were tapping into not just “individual [ant] physiology, but also social interactions,” Farrah Bashey-Visser, a parasitologist at Indiana University who wasn’t involved in the study, told me.

    Scientists think of social insects not as single bugs, but as interlaced parts of a giant “superorganism,” Manuela Ramalho, an ant biologist at Cornell University, who wasn’t involved in the study, told me. When one individual acts, others around it react; in a colony, no ant can truly act alone. Parasites of these communities automatically extend their reach to multiple animals at once, a rippling mind-control effect that spreads and amplifies the consequences of infection. Although the tapeworms had infected only a fraction of the Temnothorax workers, they were puppeteering the entire society.

    That altered existence might play directly into the parasite’s hands. Tapeworms of these species can’t mature into adults and produce eggs until their ant host is consumed by a bird—a fate that insects in full possession of their faculties try to avoid. But ants who spend all their time lazing around the house make for easy prey; hosts who are pampered and long-lived have a high chance of surviving until they’re eaten. The worm’s most ingenious move might play out in some ants’ final moments, as they trade their natural fear of intruders for a dollop of ennui. When Foitzik and her students crack open infected Temnothorax colonies, the parasitized workers do little more than stare expectantly skyward. “Everyone else is just taking the larvae and running,” Foitzik said. “The infected workers are just like, Oh, what’s going on?”

    Down to the molecular level, the parasite is pulling the strings. Sara Beros, Foitzik’s former doctoral student and the paper’s first author, told me she has split open Temnothorax abdomens and counted up to 70 tapeworms inside. From there, the worms can unleash a slurry of proteins and chemicals that futz with the ant’s core physiology, likely impacting their host’s hormones, immune system, and genes. What they achieve appears to be a rough pantomime of how ant queens attain their mind-boggling life span, a feat humans still don’t understand. (The tapeworms’ grasp of ant aging is far more advanced than ours.) The parasites are effectively flash-freezing their host into a preserved state—one that will up their own chances of survival, and help guarantee that their species lives on.

    The worms’ MO is subtle and ingenious. They are agents not of disaster, but of an insidious social sickness that sets reality only slightly, barely perceptibly, askew. Infected workers get a taste of invincibility and status, swaddling themselves in youth and the benefits it brings. They also form resource sinks that sap the energy of those around them. They become echoes of the microorganisms they harbor. They are, in the end, parasites themselves.

    • Thanks: Bashibuzuk
    • Replies: @Svevlad
    @Blinky Bill

    This but the parasite is a Matrix-like VR thing and the birds is me hijacking their system to replace it with torture just to see what happens.

    I call it: advanced trolling.

    , @Bashibuzuk
    @Blinky Bill

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/99/Ivan_the_Terrible_and_Horsey.jpg/350px-Ivan_the_Terrible_and_Horsey.jpg



    Before the infection:

    https://previews.123rf.com/images/jokter/jokter1212/jokter121200001/16670163-seamless-wallpaper-based-on-the-ancient-russian-manuscript.jpg

    After the infection:

    https://typejournal.ru/media/tmp/a5f98f59-7f55-11e3-a8b4-14dae9b62a82.jpg

    Symptoms of the infection:

    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-FG3znFo_RVk/Vtb0461opXI/AAAAAAAAOgo/byTMN2xsonA/s1600/%2525D1%252581%2525D1%252582%2525D0%2525B0%2525D1%252580%2525D0%2525BE%2525D0%2525BE%2525D0%2525B1%2525D1%252580-6-1024x651%255B1%255D.jpg

    https://ruvera.ru/data/img/content/1450850142.765o_duh_prich_05.jpg

    Final symptoms:

    https://historyrussia.org/images/revolution10047450003201.jpg

    End result:

    https://i.insider.com/5bc7826f8f5fcb05547911e2?width=1200&format=jpeg

    https://dostoinstva.net/

    https://cdn.statcdn.com/Statistic/960000/960261-blank-355.png

    Replies: @Svevlad

  259. @mal
    @Dmitry


    Kind muses of history gave him $10 billion, making him as wealthy as Steve Jobs, but contra Medvedev this wealth was not from Yotafon, but the kind of money that grows like mushrooms in a field outside Oxford (speculative crazy money based on electric vehicle hype ).
     
    When you print money, you get money.

    And Russia has no alternative but to start printing money. Russia has way too much money of the wrong kind, too many unspendable dollars and euros etc - forex reserves are above $600 billion. Russia needs rubles.
    https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/RUREFEG:IND

    Russian inflation is at 5.5%, US runs at 4.2%.

    https://tradingeconomics.com/russia/inflation-cpi
    https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/inflation-cpi

    Russian inflation profile has been more and more like developed economy, which means Russia has fiscal space and can afford budget deficits which automatically grows GDP (budget deficit is the only thing growing GDP in the US, and that's structural, was true even before pandemic).

    Sooo...

    Итого за апрель 2021 года:

    26 новых производств

    из них 4 производства с инвестициями более 1 млрд рублей (инвестиции 60,35 млрд рублей)

    общий объем объявленных инвестиций около 64,79 млрд рублей

    у 6 производств объем инвестиций не сообщается

    По отраслям:

    Машиностроение, металлообработка и металлургия — 6

    Стройматериалы и строительные изделия — 8

    Химическая промышленность и изделия — 3

    Электроника, приборы и электротехническое оборудование — 0

    Медицина и фармацевтика — 4

    Текстильная промышленность — 0

    Добывающая промышленность — 0

    Деревообрабатывающая промышленность — 1

    Другое — 4

    По источникам инвестиций:

    иностранный — 3

    российский или смешанный — 23
     
    https://zen.yandex.ru/sdelanounas.ru?country_code=ru&lang=en&clid=9247&from_page=other_page

    In April Russia had around $1 billion investment in industrial production, 26 factories, 23 Russian or mixed, 3 foreign. Mostly in machinery and construction.

    So all those bad toilets in schools Bashibuzuk is complaining about are going to be rebuilt. It takes time, but its moving in the right direction.

    Replies: @Znzn, @Svevlad, @Dmitry

    If they decide to make printer go brrr they should at least take the Michael Hudson pill and give it to productive and infrastructure uses, not bankoids

    • Agree: mal
  260. @TheTotallyAnonymous
    @silviosilver


    Going back to the toilet thing, if the EU made the state of public restrooms a criterion for accession, they wouldn’t touch the Balkans with a barge pole.
     
    Are you delusional or retarded?

    The "Western Balkans" states won't join the EU as it is anyway, and anyone who believes they seriously will has low IQ issues.

    Btw, public toilets in many EU member states really aren't in great condition either ...

    Replies: @silviosilver

    Are you delusional or retarded?

    Dude, anyone who thinks posting horse grooming pics is some mortal insult has no business calling anyone else delusional or retarded.

    I kinda feel sorry for you though. I can only imagine how much impotent rage you must be seething with to angrily lash out in every direction the way you do.

  261. @Blinky Bill
    @Bashibuzuk

    Of Ants and Men.


    Deep in the forests of Germany, nestled neatly into the hollowed-out shells of acorns, live a smattering of ants who have stumbled upon a fountain of youth. They are born workers, but do not do much work. Their days are spent lollygagging about the nest, where their siblings shower them with gifts of food. They seem to elude the ravages of old age, retaining a durably adolescent physique, their outer shells soft and their hue distinctively tawny. Their scent, too, seems to shift, wafting out an alluring perfume that endears them to others. While their sisters, who have nearly identical genomes, perish within months of being born, these death-defying insects live on for years and years and years.

    They are Temnothorax ants, and their elixirs of life are the tapeworms that teem within their bellies—parasites that paradoxically prolong the life of their host at a strange and terrible cost.

    A few such life-lengthening partnerships have been documented between microbes and insects such as wasps, beetles, and mosquitoes. But what these ants experience is more extreme than anything that’s come before, says Susanne Foitzik, an entomologist at Johannes Gutenberg University Mainz, in Germany, who studies the ants and their tapeworms. Infected Temnothorax ants live at least three times longer than their siblings, and perhaps much more, she and her colleagues report in a study published today in Royal Society Open Science. No one is yet sure when the insects’ longevity tops out, but the answer is probably in excess of a decade, approaching or even matching that of ant queens, who can survive up to 20 years.

    “Some other parasites do extend life spans,” Shelley Adamo, a parasite expert at Dalhousie University, in Nova Scotia, who was not involved in the study, told me. “But not like this.”

    Under typical circumstances, Temnothorax ants live as most other ants do. They reside in communities ruled by a single fertile queen attended by a legion of workers whose professional lives take a predictable trajectory. They first tend the queen’s eggs as nurses, then graduate into foraging roles that take them outside the nest. Apart from the whole freaky parasite thing, “they are pretty boring,” Foitzik told me.

    Normalcy goes out the door, however, when Temnothorax larvae ingest tapeworm-egg-infested bird feces trucked in by foragers. The parasites hatch and set up permanent residence in the young ants’ abdomens, where they can access a steady stream of nutrients. In return, they offer their host an unconventional renter’s fee: an extra-long life span that Foitzik and her colleagues managed to record in real time.

    The researchers spent three years monitoring dozens of Temnothorax colonies in the lab, comparing the fates of workers who’d fallen prey to the parasites and those who remained infection-free. By the end of their experiment, almost every single one of the hundreds of worm-free workers had, unsurprisingly, died. But more than half the parasitized workers were still kicking—about the same proportion as the colonies’ ultra-long-lived queens. “That was amazing to see,” Biplabendu Das, an ant biologist and parasite expert at the University of Central Florida, who wasn’t involved in the study, told me. And despite their old age, the ants’ bodies still bore the hallmarks of youth. They were difficult to distinguish from uninfected nurses, who are usually the most juvenile members of the colony’s working class.

    The tapeworm-laden ants didn’t just outlive their siblings, the team found. They were coddled while they did it. They spent their days lounging in their nest, performing none of the tasks expected of workers. They were groomed, fed, and carried by their siblings, often receiving more attention than even the queen—unheard of in a typical ant society—and gave absolutely nothing in return.

    The deal the ants have cut with their parasites seems, at first pass, pretty cushy. Foitzik told me that her team couldn’t find any overt downsides to life as an infected ant, a finding that appears to shatter the standard paradigm of parasitism. Even the colonies as a whole remained largely intact. Workers continued to work; queens continued to lay eggs. The threads that held each Temnothorax society together seemed unmussed.

    Only when the researchers took a closer look did that tapestry begin to unravel. The uninfected workers in parasitized colonies, they realized, were laboring harder. Strained by the additional burden of their wormed-up nestmates, they seemed to be shunting care away from their queen. They were dying sooner than they might have if the colonies had remained parasite-free. At the community level, the ants were exhibiting signs of stress, and the parasite’s true tax was, at last, starting to show. “The cost is in the division of labor,” Das said. The worms were tapping into not just “individual [ant] physiology, but also social interactions,” Farrah Bashey-Visser, a parasitologist at Indiana University who wasn’t involved in the study, told me.

    Scientists think of social insects not as single bugs, but as interlaced parts of a giant “superorganism,” Manuela Ramalho, an ant biologist at Cornell University, who wasn’t involved in the study, told me. When one individual acts, others around it react; in a colony, no ant can truly act alone. Parasites of these communities automatically extend their reach to multiple animals at once, a rippling mind-control effect that spreads and amplifies the consequences of infection. Although the tapeworms had infected only a fraction of the Temnothorax workers, they were puppeteering the entire society.

    That altered existence might play directly into the parasite’s hands. Tapeworms of these species can’t mature into adults and produce eggs until their ant host is consumed by a bird—a fate that insects in full possession of their faculties try to avoid. But ants who spend all their time lazing around the house make for easy prey; hosts who are pampered and long-lived have a high chance of surviving until they’re eaten. The worm’s most ingenious move might play out in some ants’ final moments, as they trade their natural fear of intruders for a dollop of ennui. When Foitzik and her students crack open infected Temnothorax colonies, the parasitized workers do little more than stare expectantly skyward. “Everyone else is just taking the larvae and running,” Foitzik said. “The infected workers are just like, Oh, what’s going on?”

    Down to the molecular level, the parasite is pulling the strings. Sara Beros, Foitzik’s former doctoral student and the paper’s first author, told me she has split open Temnothorax abdomens and counted up to 70 tapeworms inside. From there, the worms can unleash a slurry of proteins and chemicals that futz with the ant’s core physiology, likely impacting their host’s hormones, immune system, and genes. What they achieve appears to be a rough pantomime of how ant queens attain their mind-boggling life span, a feat humans still don’t understand. (The tapeworms’ grasp of ant aging is far more advanced than ours.) The parasites are effectively flash-freezing their host into a preserved state—one that will up their own chances of survival, and help guarantee that their species lives on.

    The worms’ MO is subtle and ingenious. They are agents not of disaster, but of an insidious social sickness that sets reality only slightly, barely perceptibly, askew. Infected workers get a taste of invincibility and status, swaddling themselves in youth and the benefits it brings. They also form resource sinks that sap the energy of those around them. They become echoes of the microorganisms they harbor. They are, in the end, parasites themselves.

    Replies: @Svevlad, @Bashibuzuk

    This but the parasite is a Matrix-like VR thing and the birds is me hijacking their system to replace it with torture just to see what happens.

    I call it: advanced trolling.

  262. Ray Griggs has an interesting book out on how Chan/Zen has nothing to do with religious Buddhism, and is really just a repackaging of Taoism.

    He makes a very good case, but a bit too strong. There are philosophical elements in Buddhism that are completely compatible with Taoism, and in fact the Buddhist idea of cessation of desire leading to nirvana can be developed philosophically into the sort of effortless life of spontaneity that Taoism recommends (and has been, in Tibetan Mahamudra and Dzogchen).

    Anyways, an interesting book that sheds a lot of light on Chan/Zen.

  263. mal says:
    @Znzn
    @mal

    How has Russia's economic performance been since 2013? China's GDP went from 1 trillion in 1999 to more than 14 trillion in 2019, but then how much of that GDP are bridges and roads to nowhere and empty apartment blocks, malls, and cities? The US and even Germany has had faster GDP growth than Russia for the past 7 years or so, even adjusted for population.

    Replies: @mal

    What’s so special about 2013?

    Oil bubble burst that year, in 2019 oil prices were much more reasonable, and give much better picture of Russian nominal GDP.

    In 2013, Russian nominal GDP was like 11x in 14 years, Chinese never dreamed about such growth level lol.

    Russian oil bubble driven nominal growth was insane, and once you take bubble out, it drops to very respectable 8x.

    • Replies: @Znzn
    @mal

    Growth in 2011 or 2012 was still at 4 to 5 percent, it slowed very sharply after that, growth in 2013 was only around a percent or so. And as I said before Chinese debt is at 300 percent of GDP, with China still pursuing a debt heavy investment led growth model, and people here just hand waves that away.

    Replies: @Shortsword, @A123

  264. mal says:
    @Znzn
    @Dmitry

    Russia's fundamentals are not that dismal, problem is low growth due to overly restrictive fiscal and monetary policy for since 2015 or so. Russia should have gone QE and minor deficit spending from 2015 onwards to keep GDP growth above 3 percent. And the EU an Germany clearly does not think it is worth throwing hundreds of billions to create a consumer electronics industry that can compete with East Asia.

    Replies: @mal

    Russia had 15% inflation in 2015, it was a developing economy economy back then. QE and budget deficits would have been a bad move, especially with the sanctions environment.

    You need to watch your inflation indicator, and in Russian case, dollar denominated debt and reserve ratios.

    Russia only became developed economy, more or less, in 2017 or so. What Russia can do today is not what Russia could do in 2015. Russian economy is much stronger now vs then.

    • Replies: @Znzn
    @mal

    Erdogan says caring about inflation is for suckers.

  265. Bashibuzuk says:
    @Blinky Bill
    @Bashibuzuk

    Of Ants and Men.


    Deep in the forests of Germany, nestled neatly into the hollowed-out shells of acorns, live a smattering of ants who have stumbled upon a fountain of youth. They are born workers, but do not do much work. Their days are spent lollygagging about the nest, where their siblings shower them with gifts of food. They seem to elude the ravages of old age, retaining a durably adolescent physique, their outer shells soft and their hue distinctively tawny. Their scent, too, seems to shift, wafting out an alluring perfume that endears them to others. While their sisters, who have nearly identical genomes, perish within months of being born, these death-defying insects live on for years and years and years.

    They are Temnothorax ants, and their elixirs of life are the tapeworms that teem within their bellies—parasites that paradoxically prolong the life of their host at a strange and terrible cost.

    A few such life-lengthening partnerships have been documented between microbes and insects such as wasps, beetles, and mosquitoes. But what these ants experience is more extreme than anything that’s come before, says Susanne Foitzik, an entomologist at Johannes Gutenberg University Mainz, in Germany, who studies the ants and their tapeworms. Infected Temnothorax ants live at least three times longer than their siblings, and perhaps much more, she and her colleagues report in a study published today in Royal Society Open Science. No one is yet sure when the insects’ longevity tops out, but the answer is probably in excess of a decade, approaching or even matching that of ant queens, who can survive up to 20 years.

    “Some other parasites do extend life spans,” Shelley Adamo, a parasite expert at Dalhousie University, in Nova Scotia, who was not involved in the study, told me. “But not like this.”

    Under typical circumstances, Temnothorax ants live as most other ants do. They reside in communities ruled by a single fertile queen attended by a legion of workers whose professional lives take a predictable trajectory. They first tend the queen’s eggs as nurses, then graduate into foraging roles that take them outside the nest. Apart from the whole freaky parasite thing, “they are pretty boring,” Foitzik told me.

    Normalcy goes out the door, however, when Temnothorax larvae ingest tapeworm-egg-infested bird feces trucked in by foragers. The parasites hatch and set up permanent residence in the young ants’ abdomens, where they can access a steady stream of nutrients. In return, they offer their host an unconventional renter’s fee: an extra-long life span that Foitzik and her colleagues managed to record in real time.

    The researchers spent three years monitoring dozens of Temnothorax colonies in the lab, comparing the fates of workers who’d fallen prey to the parasites and those who remained infection-free. By the end of their experiment, almost every single one of the hundreds of worm-free workers had, unsurprisingly, died. But more than half the parasitized workers were still kicking—about the same proportion as the colonies’ ultra-long-lived queens. “That was amazing to see,” Biplabendu Das, an ant biologist and parasite expert at the University of Central Florida, who wasn’t involved in the study, told me. And despite their old age, the ants’ bodies still bore the hallmarks of youth. They were difficult to distinguish from uninfected nurses, who are usually the most juvenile members of the colony’s working class.

    The tapeworm-laden ants didn’t just outlive their siblings, the team found. They were coddled while they did it. They spent their days lounging in their nest, performing none of the tasks expected of workers. They were groomed, fed, and carried by their siblings, often receiving more attention than even the queen—unheard of in a typical ant society—and gave absolutely nothing in return.

    The deal the ants have cut with their parasites seems, at first pass, pretty cushy. Foitzik told me that her team couldn’t find any overt downsides to life as an infected ant, a finding that appears to shatter the standard paradigm of parasitism. Even the colonies as a whole remained largely intact. Workers continued to work; queens continued to lay eggs. The threads that held each Temnothorax society together seemed unmussed.

    Only when the researchers took a closer look did that tapestry begin to unravel. The uninfected workers in parasitized colonies, they realized, were laboring harder. Strained by the additional burden of their wormed-up nestmates, they seemed to be shunting care away from their queen. They were dying sooner than they might have if the colonies had remained parasite-free. At the community level, the ants were exhibiting signs of stress, and the parasite’s true tax was, at last, starting to show. “The cost is in the division of labor,” Das said. The worms were tapping into not just “individual [ant] physiology, but also social interactions,” Farrah Bashey-Visser, a parasitologist at Indiana University who wasn’t involved in the study, told me.

    Scientists think of social insects not as single bugs, but as interlaced parts of a giant “superorganism,” Manuela Ramalho, an ant biologist at Cornell University, who wasn’t involved in the study, told me. When one individual acts, others around it react; in a colony, no ant can truly act alone. Parasites of these communities automatically extend their reach to multiple animals at once, a rippling mind-control effect that spreads and amplifies the consequences of infection. Although the tapeworms had infected only a fraction of the Temnothorax workers, they were puppeteering the entire society.

    That altered existence might play directly into the parasite’s hands. Tapeworms of these species can’t mature into adults and produce eggs until their ant host is consumed by a bird—a fate that insects in full possession of their faculties try to avoid. But ants who spend all their time lazing around the house make for easy prey; hosts who are pampered and long-lived have a high chance of surviving until they’re eaten. The worm’s most ingenious move might play out in some ants’ final moments, as they trade their natural fear of intruders for a dollop of ennui. When Foitzik and her students crack open infected Temnothorax colonies, the parasitized workers do little more than stare expectantly skyward. “Everyone else is just taking the larvae and running,” Foitzik said. “The infected workers are just like, Oh, what’s going on?”

    Down to the molecular level, the parasite is pulling the strings. Sara Beros, Foitzik’s former doctoral student and the paper’s first author, told me she has split open Temnothorax abdomens and counted up to 70 tapeworms inside. From there, the worms can unleash a slurry of proteins and chemicals that futz with the ant’s core physiology, likely impacting their host’s hormones, immune system, and genes. What they achieve appears to be a rough pantomime of how ant queens attain their mind-boggling life span, a feat humans still don’t understand. (The tapeworms’ grasp of ant aging is far more advanced than ours.) The parasites are effectively flash-freezing their host into a preserved state—one that will up their own chances of survival, and help guarantee that their species lives on.

    The worms’ MO is subtle and ingenious. They are agents not of disaster, but of an insidious social sickness that sets reality only slightly, barely perceptibly, askew. Infected workers get a taste of invincibility and status, swaddling themselves in youth and the benefits it brings. They also form resource sinks that sap the energy of those around them. They become echoes of the microorganisms they harbor. They are, in the end, parasites themselves.

    Replies: @Svevlad, @Bashibuzuk

    [MORE]

    Before the infection:

    After the infection:

    Symptoms of the infection:

    Final symptoms:

    End result:

    https://i.insider.com/5bc7826f8f5fcb05547911e2?width=1200&format=jpeg

    https://dostoinstva.net/

    • Replies: @Svevlad
    @Bashibuzuk

    that reminds me, russian shouldn't have westernized, and instead adopt a strict serbian style 1:1 phonetic orthography

    Replies: @silviosilver, @Bashibuzuk

  266. @Bashibuzuk
    @Blinky Bill

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/99/Ivan_the_Terrible_and_Horsey.jpg/350px-Ivan_the_Terrible_and_Horsey.jpg



    Before the infection:

    https://previews.123rf.com/images/jokter/jokter1212/jokter121200001/16670163-seamless-wallpaper-based-on-the-ancient-russian-manuscript.jpg

    After the infection:

    https://typejournal.ru/media/tmp/a5f98f59-7f55-11e3-a8b4-14dae9b62a82.jpg

    Symptoms of the infection:

    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-FG3znFo_RVk/Vtb0461opXI/AAAAAAAAOgo/byTMN2xsonA/s1600/%2525D1%252581%2525D1%252582%2525D0%2525B0%2525D1%252580%2525D0%2525BE%2525D0%2525BE%2525D0%2525B1%2525D1%252580-6-1024x651%255B1%255D.jpg

    https://ruvera.ru/data/img/content/1450850142.765o_duh_prich_05.jpg

    Final symptoms:

    https://historyrussia.org/images/revolution10047450003201.jpg

    End result:

    https://i.insider.com/5bc7826f8f5fcb05547911e2?width=1200&format=jpeg

    https://dostoinstva.net/

    https://cdn.statcdn.com/Statistic/960000/960261-blank-355.png

    Replies: @Svevlad

    that reminds me, russian shouldn’t have westernized, and instead adopt a strict serbian style 1:1 phonetic orthography

    • Replies: @silviosilver
    @Svevlad


    and instead adopt a strict serbian style 1:1 phonetic orthography
     
    Али заштоъяью?

    Replies: @Svevlad

    , @Bashibuzuk
    @Svevlad

    Piter the Great wanted Cyrillics to be easily readable by his Western bosom buddies. He was in fact a maniacal westernizer to a point where the Old Believers came to a conclusion that he was possessed by an "alien demon" = чужой бес and called his spiritual state чужебесие.

    Some Old Believers proclaimed that he was the forerunner of the Antechrist. In return he hunted, tortured and burned them. He also deposited the Patriarch of Moscow, replaced him with the "Holy" Synod and proclaimed himself as the head of the Russian Orthodox Church. He took this idea from the Anglican Church.

    He reformed the army and massacred the Russian Streltsy warrior caste, replaced them with the enslaved peasant recruits under the command of the foreign officers. He definitely enserfed the peasantry.

    He forbade ethnic Russian attire to the aristocracy and derided ancient Russian traditions. He also gave preferential treatment to the Germanic and other West European colonists on Russian soil.

    His reign caused a major drop in Russian population.

    He was a monster...

    Replies: @Svevlad

  267. @Anatoly Karlin
    @Passer by

    The primary problem with Poland is, in a word, rightoids.

    It is ruled by rightoids who think abortion, even including Down's, is something worth torpedoing their political capital amongst youth is. Young Poles, who are not religious like their boomer parents, couldn't care less for this culture war crap. They also do cringe things like declaring "LGBT free zones", which would at least be respectable on its own merits (if still politically questionable) if the rightoids doing them were not abject cowards who reverse course at the first signs of EU pressure: https://www.euronews.com/2021/04/30/polish-town-scraps-controversial-move-to-declare-itself-lgbt-free This invites them not just hatred, but contempt (on the principle that the weak must be punished).

    Polish Christianity is a problem. It focuses on these tired culture war tropes that have seen their day (and lost in both the US and Ireland) while blathering about "Refugees Welcome".

    The other core problem is Americanophilia. It exists for understandable historical reasons, and it's hard to see how it can be changed, but to the extent that you are integrated into the American world system, you need to adopt its religious values (or, more precisely, the elites will automatically adopt them to signal their superiority over the proles, like it or not). That is problematic, considering that Negro Worship is now the official religion of America.

    https://www.unz.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/warsaw-black-films-matter.jpg

    The nationalists who rule Hungary seem to be smarter than the Polish rightoids, who will lose their country within another decade and never even realize what happened.

    Replies: @Passer by

    who think abortion, even including Down’s,

    Yes, that was stupid. When that happened, i could not believe they could be so stupid. For this issue, i’m aware of it.

    were not abject cowards

    Polish Christianity blathering about “Refugees Welcome”.

    For this, i wasn’t aware of.

    but to the extent that you are integrated into the American world system, you need to adopt its religious values

    Obviously, that is very simple.

    The nationalists who rule Hungary seem to be smarter than the Polish rightoids

    They understood that Eurasia/Asia is not the problem, rather it is the conservative core of the world and potential ally. And few rightoids get that. Most are obsessed with China, not realising that if not for China (and Russia) US type social liberalism will take over the planet. But their internal policies are also positive, for example heavily supporting family formation, which makes society more conservative, and the people like, and the nationalism there seems to be pro-Hungary, rather than “anti-Russia”. The anti-Russia road trapps rightoids together with the liberals, and then the liberals slowly eat them alive.

  268. @Dmitry
    @silviosilver


    replicant’ Batty’s speech near the end of Blade Runner,
     
    I think there are two beautiful moments (with the Vangelis playing on the keyboard) in "Bladerunner", which raises it from being a mostly mediocre, trashy science-fiction, to become a work of art.

    This is the speech about "tears in rain" and also the moment when Harrison Ford tells the memory of the spider to Rachel.

    In both cases, it is something invasive, and there is sadness about the illusion of their identity.

    But the "tears in rain" speech is less interesting, than the moment when recites the memory of the spider to Rachel. It relies on a kind of "purple prose", whereas the memory about the spider has the sadness built into the wrong structure of the speakers (the wrong person is telling the memory).


    . Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time,

     

    This purple writing style, sounds like it is trying to copy Ernst Jünger's “In steel storms”. It was persuasive and beautiful enough make me a teenager safely in their bed, almost wish to be lying in a trench in the First World War.

    The fact it has such an effect on readers 90 years later, was an indication of Jünger's talent, if not necessarily of his truthfulness.

    Replies: @silviosilver, @songbird

    I wouldn’t call those lines purple prose. They were not exceedingly ornate, they were appropriate to the moment, and they were quite in character. And anyway, a man going to his grave is entitled to a flash of grandiloquence. “I, who have seen such marvels as can hardly be described, must now expire, taking those memories with me” – surely that can be forgiven.

  269. @Svevlad
    @Bashibuzuk

    that reminds me, russian shouldn't have westernized, and instead adopt a strict serbian style 1:1 phonetic orthography

    Replies: @silviosilver, @Bashibuzuk

    and instead adopt a strict serbian style 1:1 phonetic orthography

    Али заштоъяью?

    • Replies: @Svevlad
    @silviosilver

    More practical, far easier to read and write. Less nyanyanya letters that do absolutely nothing.

    Vowels are really the biggest problem. There's a lot of anglo-style shifting as well

  270. Bashibuzuk says:
    @Svevlad
    @Bashibuzuk

    that reminds me, russian shouldn't have westernized, and instead adopt a strict serbian style 1:1 phonetic orthography

    Replies: @silviosilver, @Bashibuzuk

    Piter the Great wanted Cyrillics to be easily readable by his Western bosom buddies. He was in fact a maniacal westernizer to a point where the Old Believers came to a conclusion that he was possessed by an “alien demon” = чужой бес and called his spiritual state чужебесие.

    Some Old Believers proclaimed that he was the forerunner of the Antechrist. In return he hunted, tortured and burned them. He also deposited the Patriarch of Moscow, replaced him with the “Holy” Synod and proclaimed himself as the head of the Russian Orthodox Church. He took this idea from the Anglican Church.

    He reformed the army and massacred the Russian Streltsy warrior caste, replaced them with the enslaved peasant recruits under the command of the foreign officers. He definitely enserfed the peasantry.

    He forbade ethnic Russian attire to the aristocracy and derided ancient Russian traditions. He also gave preferential treatment to the Germanic and other West European colonists on Russian soil.

    His reign caused a major drop in Russian population.

    He was a monster…

    • Agree: AP
    • Replies: @Svevlad
    @Bashibuzuk

    Oh yeah, he was a major cringe mankurt. The entire jacking off to the westoids is the worst. The early Romanovs really were quite imbecilic.

    As a result, Russia should de-germanize all names, better yet, abolish the said towns entirely. Petrograd was a vanity project built on a putrid swamp, like Venice, and go against nature's will by simply existing.

    A place named "kronstadt" has no place being Russian. If they don't want to rename it, sell it to the Finns.

  271. @Bashibuzuk
    @Anatoly Karlin


    But who cares, it’s all cosplay at the end of the day.
     
    It depends. There are aspects of the whole thing that should not be seen through the optics of moral relativism. There should be something that one considers sacred. That is if one is human and not some biomechanoid machine.

    Replies: @silviosilver

    What can anyone really do though? Say AK signed off on your lament, agreeing that, yes, it’s every bit as bleak as you say it is. In consequence of that admission, he now does what exactly? The “rightoid” answer (I share those reservations) amounts to little beyond: poast! Even if that works, even if everyone you want informed gets informed, the end result would be you’re “all dressed up and no place to go.” In the meantime, livelihoods must still be secured, resources gathered, production continued… etc.

    There should be something that one considers sacred. That is if one is human and not some biomechanoid machine.

    There’s a limit to how much the sacred can crowd out. But never fear, should you disregard these limits, a spell of appendicitis will quickly reacquaint you with biomechanical home truths.

    • LOL: Anatoly Karlin
    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @silviosilver

    Well, I didn't ask AK to do anything at all. He was the one displeased with me posting about the abject state of some of the school restrooms in the "cosmic-geopolitical-nuclear" RusFed.

    He then wrote an insulting comment about me and the whole discussion started.

    I actually don't know why he felt so bothered by all this toilet situation: it's not like he has any children going to some God-forsaken glubinka school.

    If I was him I would have acknowledged that this is gross and written something along the lines of what mal has written: GDP is going up, some of the ensuing economic betterment will percolate into the hinterland schools and the kids there will finally get a better hygienic amenities.

    But AK accused me instead of being a kind of enemy of the Russian people, a freak and so on.

    But I don't mind. Sometimes he writes cool stuff, sometimes he doesn't. Not a big deal...

    🙂

    Replies: @silviosilver, @Anatoly Karlin

  272. @Dmitry
    @silviosilver


    replicant’ Batty’s speech near the end of Blade Runner,
     
    I think there are two beautiful moments (with the Vangelis playing on the keyboard) in "Bladerunner", which raises it from being a mostly mediocre, trashy science-fiction, to become a work of art.

    This is the speech about "tears in rain" and also the moment when Harrison Ford tells the memory of the spider to Rachel.

    In both cases, it is something invasive, and there is sadness about the illusion of their identity.

    But the "tears in rain" speech is less interesting, than the moment when recites the memory of the spider to Rachel. It relies on a kind of "purple prose", whereas the memory about the spider has the sadness built into the wrong structure of the speakers (the wrong person is telling the memory).


    . Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time,

     

    This purple writing style, sounds like it is trying to copy Ernst Jünger's “In steel storms”. It was persuasive and beautiful enough make me a teenager safely in their bed, almost wish to be lying in a trench in the First World War.

    The fact it has such an effect on readers 90 years later, was an indication of Jünger's talent, if not necessarily of his truthfulness.

    Replies: @silviosilver, @songbird

    The fact it has such an effect on readers 90 years later, was an indication of Jünger’s talent, if not necessarily of his truthfulness.

    Closest American equivalent might be Audie Murphy’s To Hell and Back (WW2). But he didn’t write it, and the dialogue feels quite cloying. I think it was the influence of movies and radio, compared to Storm of Steel first printed about 1920.

    Audie Murphy is still a famous name in the US, but I think his book was basically a fad compared to Jünger. Murphy’s fame today probably has more to do with the old movie that was based on the book.

  273. @silviosilver
    @Svevlad

    I dare not. I have no stomach for those scenes.

    Going back to the toilet thing, if the EU made the state of public restrooms a criterion for accession, they wouldn't touch the Balkans with a barge pole. The stench and the filth I've witnessed there, how is that even possible?

    Replies: @TheTotallyAnonymous, @Matra

    Going back to the toilet thing, if the EU made the state of public restrooms a criterion for accession, they wouldn’t touch the Balkans with a barge pole. The stench and the filth I’ve witnessed there, how is that even possible?

    Based on my admittedly limited experience in the Balkans (mostly Sofia but also Belgrade) public “restrooms” (how quaintly American!) are no worse there than they are in most of the rest of Europe. You being from the Antipodes probably have higher standards in this regard than most Europeans – at least those Euros who are Gen X & older. (I recall being segregated after toilet break along with the other couple of Europeans in my NZ class and forced to wash our hands in view of the teacher as Kiwi kids were grossed out by our Old World filthiness, which, alas, extended to our habits around food as well).

    According to many polls – which I know are always considered highly reliable at this blog – like this one Western Europeans are less likely than Easterners to wash their hands with soap (or even water) after using the toilet. I’m not at all surprised to see the Dutch as the worst offenders as most of the bars I’ve been in there don’t even bother with a sink & water tap in their men’s rooms.

    • Replies: @Znzn
    @Matra

    Hand sanitizer?

  274. Bashibuzuk says:
    @silviosilver
    @Bashibuzuk

    What can anyone really do though? Say AK signed off on your lament, agreeing that, yes, it's every bit as bleak as you say it is. In consequence of that admission, he now does what exactly? The "rightoid" answer (I share those reservations) amounts to little beyond: poast! Even if that works, even if everyone you want informed gets informed, the end result would be you're "all dressed up and no place to go." In the meantime, livelihoods must still be secured, resources gathered, production continued... etc.


    There should be something that one considers sacred. That is if one is human and not some biomechanoid machine.
     
    There's a limit to how much the sacred can crowd out. But never fear, should you disregard these limits, a spell of appendicitis will quickly reacquaint you with biomechanical home truths.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    Well, I didn’t ask AK to do anything at all. He was the one displeased with me posting about the abject state of some of the school restrooms in the “cosmic-geopolitical-nuclear” RusFed.

    He then wrote an insulting comment about me and the whole discussion started.

    I actually don’t know why he felt so bothered by all this toilet situation: it’s not like he has any children going to some God-forsaken glubinka school.

    If I was him I would have acknowledged that this is gross and written something along the lines of what mal has written: GDP is going up, some of the ensuing economic betterment will percolate into the hinterland schools and the kids there will finally get a better hygienic amenities.

    But AK accused me instead of being a kind of enemy of the Russian people, a freak and so on.

    But I don’t mind. Sometimes he writes cool stuff, sometimes he doesn’t. Not a big deal…

    🙂

    • Replies: @silviosilver
    @Bashibuzuk


    Well, I didn’t ask AK to do anything at all. He was the one displeased with me posting about the abject state of some of the school restrooms in the “cosmic-geopolitical-nuclear” RusFed.
     
    I wasn't referring to the toilet thing, I was referring to your lament about the slavic demographic winter (and more broadly your concept of 'sacred nationalism' or whatever term you'd prefer to apply to your worldview).

    Say he agrees. What then? Would he necessarily be required to give up all his existing interests? If so, to do what instead?

    I happen to think that what you touched on is a hugely important issue, but I can't help getting the feeling sometimes - and maybe this is just my imagination - that anything which departs from these sacred values is condemned as not only an unnecessary diversion, but as an insidious subversion of those sacred values.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    , @Anatoly Karlin
    @Bashibuzuk


    He then wrote an insulting comment about me and the whole discussion started.
     
    It's a bit rich for you to complain about insults when you said I'm a ResFed Putinist propagandist, in cahoots with Simonyan and Kholmogorov (not that that would be a bad thing, both having done good things for Russia, the latter especially playing an outsized role in rehabilitating pro-White Guard discourse in Russia - even if he does happen to share your anti-technology views, though that should presumably be a plus, so why so mad?), not a Slav, etc.

    I don't wish to belabor the point (I am under the weather the last couple of days anyway) and don't really care but that "minor" detail needs to be pointed out.

    ... and the kids there will finally get a better hygienic amenities.
     
    To reiterate, a "competition" that *specifically selects* for shitty shithouses produces... examples of shitty shithouses. What did you expect? There will be similar results in just about any country. (Well, perhaps outside Singapore or Switzerland). If you're relying interested in a facts-based indictment of Putinomics based on ... shithouses, then the correct approach would be to compile an index of shitty shithouses, track it over some period of time, and compare it with reasonable comparator countries in ECE and EE. I would be surprised if Russia significantly "underperformed" on such an index relative to those other countries over the past decade, but in any case, the onus is on you to make that particular case*. Posting shitty shithouses to shit on Russia is simply what typical Russophobes and svidomy do. Раша-Параша, etc.

    * Though given your hyper-traditionalist views and opinion that everything in Russia has been going wrong since 988 AD that seems an illogical preoccupation, shitty shithouses would appear to be one of the most "trad" things in the world.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

  275. @silviosilver
    @Svevlad


    and instead adopt a strict serbian style 1:1 phonetic orthography
     
    Али заштоъяью?

    Replies: @Svevlad

    More practical, far easier to read and write. Less nyanyanya letters that do absolutely nothing.

    Vowels are really the biggest problem. There’s a lot of anglo-style shifting as well

  276. @Bashibuzuk
    @Svevlad

    Piter the Great wanted Cyrillics to be easily readable by his Western bosom buddies. He was in fact a maniacal westernizer to a point where the Old Believers came to a conclusion that he was possessed by an "alien demon" = чужой бес and called his spiritual state чужебесие.

    Some Old Believers proclaimed that he was the forerunner of the Antechrist. In return he hunted, tortured and burned them. He also deposited the Patriarch of Moscow, replaced him with the "Holy" Synod and proclaimed himself as the head of the Russian Orthodox Church. He took this idea from the Anglican Church.

    He reformed the army and massacred the Russian Streltsy warrior caste, replaced them with the enslaved peasant recruits under the command of the foreign officers. He definitely enserfed the peasantry.

    He forbade ethnic Russian a